BRS 72 - Big Dawg's House

BRS 72 - Big Dawg's House
Burning River Sportscast: A Cleveland Browns Podcast
BRS 72 - Big Dawg's House

Aug 22 2024 | 02:04:55

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Episode • August 22, 2024 • 02:04:55

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The Cleveland Browns fell to 0-2 in the pre-season after another uninspired showing against the Green Bay Packers. They also lost three more OTs to injury (yes, three) and are desparately looking for help at that position. But it's the pre-season. And everyone needs to just calm down!

In this latest edition of our show we will recap that abysmal game... well kind of... we also talk about potential free agent finds for the OL, whether or not the starters should play in the final pre-season game, big trouble for a rookie standout, Myles Garrett giving back to the community, more stadium talk, the hot three, gassed up, and we even have an interview with a fellow Browns superfan/commentator!

All that and oh so much more as we break it all down for you on the Burning River Sportscast!

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[00:00:09] Speaker A: Browns fans, are you ready to take your fandom on the road? Join True Fan Travel, an official fan experience, partner of the Cleveland Browns, and travel with other Browns fans like never before. Everything is taken care of, flights, hotels, tailgate, game tickets, transportation, food, drinks, everything that's important to Browns fans. Each trip will also include an exclusive meet and greethorne with former Browns players. Visit truefantravel.com today and reserve your ultimate Browns travel package. [00:01:10] Speaker B: It's time. [00:01:11] Speaker A: Time for the Burning river sportscast. With each passing day, we grow closer. Closer to the head banging, body smashing, nut crunching action and speed and elegance that is showcased during the NFL season. But alas, we must finish the preseason and training camp first. There are plenty of position battles underway, injuries piling up, and roster moves being made as NFL teams prepare for the 2021. And we're here to mix it up, talk a little preseason, grab a couple interviews, and be literal stooges for your entertainment for the next 2 hours. And, you know, we'll break it all down for you next on the burning river sportscast. [00:01:54] Speaker B: Do you think they'll put nic cage on the COVID of Madden now? [00:01:57] Speaker A: That would be cool. [00:01:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:59] Speaker A: And then Nick Cage takes his acl. [00:02:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:01] Speaker C: He's gonna get the curse. [00:02:03] Speaker B: He's got the Madden curse, baby. I don't get it. [00:02:06] Speaker A: I don't get it. [00:02:07] Speaker B: Don't get it. I digress, though. I'm not. I don't want to talk about it anymore. [00:02:12] Speaker A: Like, we got made to look like scrubs by, like, literal scrubs guys that. [00:02:16] Speaker B: You never heard of, the garbage man. [00:02:20] Speaker A: What are we doing? [00:02:20] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:02:21] Speaker A: I'm concerned. Like, I'm concerned that there's no fight in this team. All, like, just at this point in training camp. [00:02:26] Speaker B: That's fair. But my next note here is that it's preseason. We're not gonna overreact about anything. I'm overreacting as far as how the team. [00:02:37] Speaker A: I'm pissed off. This team needs to do something or something. [00:02:40] Speaker B: I'm already in the dumpster. Like, I wonder if they're gonna do more of a, like a feel. Like you're like an immersive type thing up there with the primate exhibits as well. [00:02:50] Speaker A: What? Like, you wanna be a primate? [00:02:54] Speaker C: I don't know who you are or what butthole you crawled out of, but this is my woman and our baby. And every night he gets swaddled in the tightest of pants. [00:03:03] Speaker B: Ma, the meatloaf. [00:03:05] Speaker A: I'm driving Dodge. Stratus. [00:03:08] Speaker D: I promised Jesus himself I would dropkick that Mandev, if I ever met him, and now I said publicly that had he got us to a Super Bowl, I would have had his face tattooed on my rear end. [00:03:21] Speaker A: I love the idea that the brown stadium is Madden. Generic stadium. [00:03:25] Speaker B: You know, it's funny, I had never, ever thought to describe it that way, but that's exactly what it is. It's like you go through generic stadium three, generic stadium four. Like, that's what it is. [00:03:38] Speaker A: And these are guys that are on the radio every day, local in Cleveland. [00:03:41] Speaker B: You guys are piece of crap. [00:03:43] Speaker A: Tribal lading, marriage to a football game. I'll say it one more time. You were a real shit human being. Welcome into the burning river sportscast, presented by the fine folks at Tappin Media. I'm Kenny Thunder, as always, seated beside key contributor to the american bestiality, super Pac. Sexy beasts. He loves animals. He's right out Ronnie jams. I heard they were trying to run an australian zubrid giraffe named Lamar in this year's election. Can you confirm? [00:04:12] Speaker B: Yes. [00:04:13] Speaker A: Nice. The bone Mandez back, fresh off his life saving engagements, restoring power to the greater Cleveland area after storms ripped through over the last couple of weeks single handedly. Bone, good to have you back. Do you ever get a God complex doing the things you do? Like, you're like, let there be light. And there was light. [00:04:31] Speaker C: Yes. When I plug in the fuse, yeah. I always like to be that guy. And then the lights turn on and everybody cheers. [00:04:37] Speaker A: The whole city goes wild. [00:04:38] Speaker C: And I just give a big, like, whoa. Like, down the street, I try not to be too loud, but I'm usually much louder than that. [00:04:46] Speaker A: Nice. Nice. I did have another question, actually, since you weren't here last week, since you were out being a hero and all. After a multi year sonar study, it was determined that there's a buttload of water trapped under Mars. So should we send a team of oil core drillers, a la Armageddon, to Mars to have them access the newly discovered reservoirs of water traps having 12 miles under the surface that, when released, will cover the entirety of everything on a planet less than a mile high? [00:05:08] Speaker C: Really? It's liquid? [00:05:10] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:05:10] Speaker C: That's what they say. [00:05:11] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:05:11] Speaker B: It's water. [00:05:12] Speaker D: Water. [00:05:12] Speaker B: Not just liquid water, actually. [00:05:13] Speaker C: Wouldn't it just freeze when it hits the surface? [00:05:16] Speaker A: Nah, that's how we start terraforming. [00:05:17] Speaker C: Ah. I say terrorism. [00:05:19] Speaker A: There's a lot of it. [00:05:19] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:05:19] Speaker A: I think we should cover the entire planet. [00:05:21] Speaker C: We should do it. [00:05:22] Speaker B: Talk about a God complex who started to make a new planet. [00:05:25] Speaker A: Back to red hot. Where can our listeners find the dopest dope they ever heard on a podcast, as well as the unofficial podcast of Cleveland brownsbaggers everywhere. [00:05:33] Speaker B: The official podcast podcast of some Cleveland browns suckers. Some places, yes. [00:05:37] Speaker A: We're growing to. [00:05:38] Speaker B: We are growing. [00:05:39] Speaker A: Exit realty is growing. [00:05:41] Speaker B: You can find our podcast wherever each podcast, I'm talking Apple podcast, Spotify, Stitcher, Amazon music, YouTube music, Pandora, Haradio, podcast, Castro, good pods, and so many more. And don't forget to subscribe on YouTube. The only place that you can find our video podcast and check us out on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok. Our handle for all those socials is earning over Sportscast. And we are on X, the artist formerly known as Twitter with the handle earning overpod. And while you're at it, check out our merch. Www.thetapandmedia.com. shop just added a whole shit ton of new stuff to that shop, including. Hang on. Dun dun dun dun. [00:06:13] Speaker A: Package reveal. [00:06:16] Speaker B: Rip that thing open. Hot damn, bone. [00:06:22] Speaker A: Whoa. [00:06:23] Speaker C: No way. [00:06:24] Speaker B: Is this one big man approved. [00:06:26] Speaker A: Probably everyone's heavier. [00:06:28] Speaker C: You kidding me? [00:06:29] Speaker B: You guys are the Jason and me. [00:06:32] Speaker A: Look at this. I'm trying to open it with my finger food. Finger figures. Fingers. [00:06:40] Speaker B: So looky there. Our very own river merch. Burning river merch. [00:06:47] Speaker A: Dope. [00:06:47] Speaker C: Those are nice shirts. [00:06:49] Speaker B: High quality stuff. [00:06:50] Speaker C: 100% cotton as well. I like that. [00:06:52] Speaker B: High quality stuff. So this is sick. As soon as we have a break here, I'm gonna. I'm gonna change into this shirt. [00:06:58] Speaker A: And we got the burning river secondary logo on the back, of course. The water droplets on fire. [00:07:03] Speaker B: Hell, yes. So that's in the shop. We also have. Dustin is greater than Justin shirts because everybody knows Dustin Hopkins is far superior to Justin Tucker. [00:07:15] Speaker C: So much better. [00:07:17] Speaker B: And then we've. What else do we put in there? We put in there. We got some Brook park gear. [00:07:21] Speaker A: Brook park gear. [00:07:21] Speaker B: I know everybody's so turnt up and wants to argue about if they're Cleveland or Brook park, if they moved to Brook park. So we just went ahead and made some Brook park gear for the new dome location. Yep. And so there's some different variants. Variations of the river gear as well. Some of it says Cleveland football. Some of it doesn't. Pretty dope. [00:07:35] Speaker A: Shit, dude, I've been wanting river shirts so bad since we announced river. [00:07:38] Speaker B: Now we have one. [00:07:39] Speaker A: Now I have one. [00:07:39] Speaker B: Now you have one. [00:07:40] Speaker A: I am stoked. [00:07:41] Speaker B: All right, so today on the show, this is what you can look forward to. We're going to do a recap of the second preseason game. There's a lot more injury news. Potential free agent finds to help with those injuries. Serious trouble for a Browns rookie standout. More stadium talk. Miles Garrett takes kids to the museum. Multiple interviews. Or one. [00:07:57] Speaker A: Maybe just one. [00:07:58] Speaker B: Maybe just one. This show is jam packed and the season hasn't even started yet. So lace up those shoes and get ready for this marathon. Cause we're sprinting the entire way right here on the burning river sports cast. Now let's get things started with the burning river news story of the week. All right, so, guys, guys, this is big. Not maybe not as big as the river shirts. [00:08:28] Speaker A: How big? [00:08:29] Speaker B: It's big. Oh, it's big. The one and only Nicolas Cage. Yeah. That Nicolas Cage did a lot of movies. [00:08:37] Speaker C: Has been con air. Nicolas Cage. [00:08:39] Speaker B: Yes. Con air Nicolas Cage. Put down the bunny. Yeah. That Nicolas Cage has been signed to play John Madden in an upcoming. Do you say bio? Like, how do you say that? Biopic. Biopic. That's what I've heard. [00:08:54] Speaker C: That biopic. [00:08:55] Speaker B: I think it's biopic. [00:08:56] Speaker A: Biopic. [00:08:57] Speaker B: But anyways. [00:08:58] Speaker A: Like a biopsy. [00:08:59] Speaker B: Yeah. Anyways, Nick Cage is gonna play John Madden. So now, I know there are a lot of people that may be saying, nicolas Cage really put on a weight. [00:09:09] Speaker A: Or is he gonna wear a fat suit? [00:09:10] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't know. [00:09:11] Speaker C: Huh. [00:09:11] Speaker B: I'm not a producer of this movie, but anyways, I, for one, love this. I know Nick Cage. He's a little bit out there. He's kind of an over actor a la Jim Carrey, but quite as good as Jim Carrey, but still legendary in his own right. I think this is great. What do you guys think about Nic Cage being John Madden? [00:09:29] Speaker A: I've never watched a movie with Nic Cage afterward and been disappointed, even. He makes some b movies that went straight to streaming and stuff. [00:09:35] Speaker B: The only one that I would say was probably that way is Ghost Rider was pretty bad. [00:09:40] Speaker A: Even ghostwriter, though. Ghostwriters. [00:09:42] Speaker B: Old Ghost Rider is funny, though, because he puts his own Nicholas Cage spin on it. So it's just like. [00:09:47] Speaker A: And I think if Ghost Rider was made today, it would look a lot better. [00:09:50] Speaker B: True. That's true. [00:09:51] Speaker A: That was part of the cheesiness of Ghost. [00:09:53] Speaker B: It was. It was the early days of Marvel or whatever it is, when the CGI wasn't as good. Yeah. Yeah. That's fair. That's fair. [00:09:59] Speaker A: Yeah. I believe that more on the technology than Nick Cage himself, but, like, I've never been, like, I pretty much enjoy everything that cage is in. [00:10:05] Speaker C: Face off, face off. [00:10:06] Speaker A: Face off. [00:10:09] Speaker C: I just like when they. [00:10:11] Speaker A: So perfect. [00:10:12] Speaker C: Put their hands over their kids faces. [00:10:15] Speaker B: Yes. [00:10:15] Speaker C: It's just weird, weird part of the movie. I don't know why they did that. [00:10:19] Speaker B: My favorite nic cage meme of all time is the one where it's like, it shows him by year, every year, and it's like supposed to show that he hasn't aged, but then they randomly throw in the one the year face off was made and it's John Travolta's face off. [00:10:32] Speaker A: Yes. [00:10:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:33] Speaker A: It's the best. [00:10:35] Speaker B: Cause you gotta be a keen Nick. [00:10:36] Speaker A: Cage fan to really get it. Most people go like, why is Travolta in here? [00:10:40] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, that's. That's one of the best memes. [00:10:43] Speaker A: Yeah, face offs. One of the good. The good ones. [00:10:45] Speaker B: That's a good one. This is solid. [00:10:47] Speaker A: And in fact, like, I watched it recently and it still holds up for the most part. [00:10:50] Speaker B: John Travolta, was that just the performances by both those guys was so unhinged and underrated in that. In that movie. And it's just. It's kind of like twisters that we talked about last week. You know, it's just a fun movie. It's, you know, there's. Science is a little questionable, but I. [00:11:06] Speaker A: Don'T watch every movie to be blown away. No, it's like, you watch like movies. [00:11:10] Speaker B: Sometimes you just want to have a. [00:11:11] Speaker A: Good time or like some of these that are academy. Okay. You expect to be blown away in some way. But I mostly am just watching just to entertain myself. Like mindless entertainment and most Nick Cage movies. [00:11:21] Speaker B: I feel like that's what it is. That bill, national treasure, a whole series. It doesn't matter which one. The whole series. [00:11:27] Speaker A: I really want to know what's on page 47. [00:11:29] Speaker B: Yeah, we all do. [00:11:30] Speaker A: To make national treasure three, they made. [00:11:31] Speaker B: A national treasure series on Disney. Plus doesn't have Nick Cage in it, so. Not as good. No, not as good. I feel like they made touch talk about what happens on page 47. [00:11:42] Speaker A: Not to mention great cast in that movie because you get Justin Bartha from Hangover. I can't think of the girls name, but she was Helena Troy, like beautiful actress. Yeah, just, just. And the FBI guy. [00:11:55] Speaker B: I mean, the FBI guy. [00:11:57] Speaker A: Good cast. [00:11:58] Speaker B: Yeah, great cast. All good. President. [00:12:01] Speaker C: Well, hey, back to. [00:12:03] Speaker A: He was good too. President, book of presidents. [00:12:06] Speaker C: Yeah, back to Nic Cage being John Madden. I kind of liked your point about him putting on. Is he going to put on weight or is he going to wear a suit? [00:12:13] Speaker A: I feel like I've never seen a bigger speaker. Three. [00:12:17] Speaker B: I'm wondering if it might be a combination, because Nic Cage is so skinny, and so for him to put on that much weight is kind of drawn. [00:12:24] Speaker A: Although, didn't Kevin James play Sean Payton in a movie and he was just basically Kevin James? [00:12:28] Speaker B: He did. [00:12:28] Speaker C: That's a good point. [00:12:29] Speaker B: Yeah. He literally is just Kevin James, which. Kevin James doesn't look anything like Sean. [00:12:34] Speaker C: Is this a Netflix movie or is this something. [00:12:36] Speaker B: I don't know. I didn't catch, you know, which studio is producing it or anything. I just saw the story come across real quick, and I was like, no way. We gotta talk about this. Cause this is good. [00:12:46] Speaker A: I'm actually surprised. [00:12:47] Speaker B: It's actually a new story of the. [00:12:48] Speaker A: Week that's football related, because there's a lot of actors that have been having a hard time. Like, I've seen actors that, like, straight actors are gonna play gay roles, and, like, the crowd kind of comes. Like, you shouldn't be able to play. They're like, well, I'm an actor, I guess, whole point, it's like I'm acting like somebody else. [00:13:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:05] Speaker A: But hopefully he doesn't get, like, the. You know, the big bodied people come after him. [00:13:09] Speaker B: Like, hey, you tried to come after me for that once. [00:13:12] Speaker A: You can't play a big bodied guy. [00:13:13] Speaker B: One time you told me I was gonna get canceled. Cause I made a joke about you. [00:13:16] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying. Those people are out there with the pitchforks, man. [00:13:19] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm not getting canceled. You can't cancel me. [00:13:21] Speaker A: Hopefully they don't cancel me. [00:13:22] Speaker B: You can't cancel me. [00:13:23] Speaker A: I can cancel you anything I want. [00:13:27] Speaker C: Just shut your mouth like I do the editing. [00:13:29] Speaker B: Yeah, you're just coming off stupid. [00:13:32] Speaker A: I just take Ronnie out of the hole. It's an empty seat. [00:13:35] Speaker B: It'd be. It'd be just AI. Did you see the AI thing this week come out with Donald Trump and the dude from the Guardians? He's like, I don't know who this guy is. If you guys have seen this guy from. From the Guardians. But they call him big Christmas. Yes, it was great. But anyways, that's what you do to me, dude. [00:13:51] Speaker A: The AI stuff's getting really scary because. Especially in the political realm, because you can't tell what's real and fake. [00:13:55] Speaker B: No. Nope. Just check the mouth and check the mouth. There's a couple different parts of the body that the AI can't seem to get right. [00:14:05] Speaker A: Sure, sometimes there's, like, an extra foot on people, but. But the ones that are doing really well, like, you're like, oh. I mean, I could see Donald Trump. [00:14:11] Speaker B: Saying that if they ever have their, like, arms exposed. Check the armpits because it's a funny thing. But, like, AI puts, like, 47 folds in your armpit. [00:14:21] Speaker A: I got a lot of folds in mine. [00:14:23] Speaker B: Well, you're a big guy. Nobody would ever know. They'd be like, that's just, that's natural. But anyways, I don't know how we got there from Nic Cage playing John Madden, other than I'm excited about Nic Cage playing John Madden. [00:14:34] Speaker A: I buy Madden every year regardless when it comes out. So I'll, I'll probably buy this, too. [00:14:38] Speaker B: Do you think they'll put Nic cage on the COVID of Madden now? [00:14:40] Speaker A: That would be dope. [00:14:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:43] Speaker A: And then Nic cage takes his acl. [00:14:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:45] Speaker C: He's gonna get the curse. [00:14:46] Speaker B: He's got the Madden curse, baby. All right, but with that, let's get into the burning river rundown. All right, so let's start with Brown's preseason week two recap. Obviously, they played the Vikings. Here's the deal. I just gotta ask, like, serious question for both of you. Are, is it just me or our preseason games getting harder and harder to watch? Like, it. It was awful. [00:15:16] Speaker A: These two games have been the most boring games of my life. [00:15:20] Speaker B: I was so excited for football, and then even though it was preseason and I was like, well, at least I get to watch football. And I'm watching, I'm like, I don't want to watch. [00:15:27] Speaker A: I'm trying to figure out, like, is it just because, like, most of our mart, like, most of our marquee guys just aren't playing? Like, maybe that's part of it, but maybe you're watching a bunch of backups that are competing for roster spots. My whole problem is that even in years past, when you're watching the backups, those guys tend to look inspired. This, this team of reserves for the Browns has not jumped out to me. Like, I want to spot on this team. They just kind of are there? [00:15:50] Speaker B: Well, like, I don't know what to blame that on. Is that, is that just, like, by design, like, the coaches are like, these are practices for us, or is that more of a, is that a result of possibly there being 17 games now and they're like, listen, we literally don't care about the preseason anymore. But to me, like, even in both those scenarios, to your point, you have guys that are fighting for a roster spot and it looks like nobody's fighting. [00:16:12] Speaker C: How, how many people that are out there playing are like, I'm not making the team. Well, just because our team is fairly. [00:16:18] Speaker A: Static, it just feels like they all are playing like that. They're like, I'm here for the next two weeks and then I'm off to cabo or wherever. [00:16:24] Speaker C: Like I might make it to the practice squad or something. I don't know. [00:16:27] Speaker B: Yeah. So, I don't know. [00:16:29] Speaker A: But I would even put, like, like the quarterbacks on blast here. Like, DTR throws an interception, like, deep in the red zone that was off the hands of a receiver. But again, receiver, I will say somebody. [00:16:40] Speaker B: Who made a play, I'll give this shout out because I saw it. That was screaming to me, I want to make this team, was Tyler Huntley. He threw an interception and he hawked the guy down at the end, like. [00:16:52] Speaker A: Towards the same thing, though. It was a red zone interception, and he just airmailed that ball. I understand a quarterback has been to the Pro bowl and started like 15 games. [00:17:00] Speaker B: I understand, but he made a mistake. And instead of just like most people, most of what we seen, the uninspired play during the, during the game, he got up and said not only did he get up, his helmet got knocked off when he got hit on that play, and he still picked his helmet up and ran the guy down. [00:17:13] Speaker A: He also knocked out the left tackle that was chasing him down, too, and injured him. So that was good. [00:17:18] Speaker B: See, he went all out and then. [00:17:20] Speaker A: And then he threw another interception later in the game. [00:17:22] Speaker B: That's fair. I didn't say he played well. I said he showed some heart. [00:17:25] Speaker A: I was hurt one time. [00:17:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:27] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know. I just, especially these running backs and receivers, man, I've been looking for one of these guys to step up and just look. I mean, what did former average 1.8 yards to carry for? [00:17:38] Speaker B: He did have five catches for 46 yards. [00:17:40] Speaker A: He did catch, but that's not even his. He's even known to be a pass catcher. [00:17:43] Speaker B: No, I actually have this in there as that was, like, very surprising. [00:17:47] Speaker A: I mean, great if we can be that guy, but, like, he hasn't been known. That's not why we signed him. [00:17:51] Speaker B: Yeah. And so, yeah, I mean, you're, you're not wrong. And about the quarterbacks, I would say pretty concerning that they're playing all backups and they still are trash. But, I mean, it felt like it just, granted, granted. Which we'll talk about these in these things in a second. Whole offensive line is, is fair enough. [00:18:11] Speaker A: It just felt like they were going through the motion so much because it was like we were completing passes, moving down the field, complete passes, and then something dumb would happen where they throw a pick. It's just like every drive kind of just felt like it fizzled out. Like, yeah, no reason. [00:18:25] Speaker B: And just what we said at the beginning of this is that it's just such a boring game. Like, this game. And the first game is just so boring to watch. Like, there was no. [00:18:33] Speaker A: And we probably expecting that to an extent, right? Cause we know that they're not gonna show anybody. [00:18:38] Speaker B: But I think it's exactly what you said, though. I think it's just the fact that you're like, you missed the hustle plays, you missed the, like. Like, I don't know, years past, I can remember picking out specific plays in the preseason where I could be like, that guy just made the team. [00:18:51] Speaker A: There's always a guy that we're like, this guy should make the team. Like, he's. [00:18:54] Speaker B: Well, even. You even go to last year, it was Ronnie Hickman. [00:18:58] Speaker A: He just. [00:18:59] Speaker B: And even DTR to that point. DTR lit up the preseason well. [00:19:02] Speaker A: There was a receiver that caught, like, every bar d, every ball, DTR through. I can't think of his name right now. He was, like, fantastic in the preseason. It was a shock when he got cut. [00:19:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Speaking of shocking, receivers being cut. Talk about that soon. But no, it. I don't know. We're just not seeing any of that right now. And it's. It's really frustrating because I'm like, what are we. What are we even watching? [00:19:21] Speaker A: You know what else I don't like? No white on white back again. Two weeks in a row. [00:19:26] Speaker B: Every week it's white out again. [00:19:28] Speaker A: I'm hoping it's just because it's warm out. So they're like, let's keep the guys cool. But. But come on, we got dope colors. [00:19:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Why are we. [00:19:36] Speaker A: Why are we white on white all the time? [00:19:37] Speaker B: I don't know. It's annoying. But anyway, so my, my two big takeaways from the game. We'll leave it at this. And, you know, we could talk about the second one because I know that's where most everybody's talking about right now, but number one, I had in here that Dante Foreman actually looked. I put good. That's probably a stretch. He looked decent to me. His yards per carry were low, but the offensive line is messed up. But he did what this showed me, this game showed me, is it looks like they might try and use him as a short yardage back during the season because his touchdown was from the one. He got a lot of those short yardage carries. And then, like we had, like we said before, surprisingly short yardage carries for sure. [00:20:19] Speaker A: Yeah, they were 1.8 yards per carry, like we said. [00:20:23] Speaker B: Like we said, surprisingly, he had five catches for 46 yards. So I didn't expect that. But I think Tyler Huntley was your leading rusher. You're not wrong. I just said he looked, he looked, I said good was a stretch. He looked decent. Especially when you take into account that the offensive line is we're down to like fifth and 6th string and we're not even out of the preseason yet. [00:20:45] Speaker A: Aiden Robbins did put a solid 2.8 yards for carry, though. See, and I got to put you on blast cause you kept calling him Aiden Robinson like, for half the show last week. And you're like, I'm so excited about Aidan Robinson. I hope Aidan Robinson makes the team. [00:20:57] Speaker B: Well, you know, when you get ahead of yourself, you just are so excited that you don't even know what you're thinking. That's what happens. [00:21:04] Speaker C: Has that dude returned any kicks, any kickoffs? Aidan, Robert, Robin, I don't think he's. [00:21:08] Speaker A: Going to be a kicker. [00:21:09] Speaker B: Turn. [00:21:09] Speaker A: He's the big one. He's a Derek Henry guy. [00:21:11] Speaker B: Yeah, he's like 240 pounds. [00:21:12] Speaker C: Oh, dang. [00:21:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:13] Speaker C: All right. [00:21:14] Speaker A: It would be interesting to run that. [00:21:16] Speaker B: The power return sold. Power return game sold. Let's just. [00:21:20] Speaker A: That might be the secret to this new kickoff back there. [00:21:25] Speaker B: 2Nd, 2nd takeaway here, though, from the preseason game is we've once again been bitten by the injury bug and once again it's on the offensive line. And specifically, I'm talking about offensive tackle. Offensive tackles Jack Conklin and Jed wills obviously aren't even practicing yet because they're currently on the pup list. Well, so we're down to, you know, what does that make a third, 4th, 5th string? Well, guess what? All three of those guys went down as well. Three offensive tackles left the game with injuries. Jermaine Fidi, is that how you say that? He had a hand injury, Hakeem? He had a knee injury officially on IR as of today, and he's done for at least half the season, probably the whole season, if not getting cut. And then James Hudson had an ankle injury as well. So the left tackle situation is getting pretty dire due to the injuries. And this was Kevin Stefanski's response today, which I found very interesting, is they asked him, you know, a lot going on left tackle, you know, what are we going to do about it? And basically what he said is we're just gonna have to deal with it. Like what that was, that was your response, like, we'll just have to deal with it. You don't have anything for us. So I don't know what that was. Luckily they did go out and sign offensive tackle Jim. [00:22:44] Speaker A: Another good one. [00:22:45] Speaker B: I think it's Jim Okorafor that. [00:22:48] Speaker A: Looks good to me. [00:22:49] Speaker B: Yeah, feels right. Yeah. So they brought in another offensive tackle, but that doesn't explain how we're going to replace the other two that were lost just in this game. [00:23:00] Speaker A: Look, I mean, I think the thing is, is that you're going to have to have a left tackle for the season. You probably can't come in with just like whatever third string backup that they just signed just for depth of the preseason, like they're going to have to make unless somebody gets healthy. Right. I mean, these are. [00:23:15] Speaker B: Maybe he keeps saying that Jed Wills is, is close, but the fact that he hasn't even practiced yet and he keeps saying he's close is very concerning. [00:23:22] Speaker A: And the also concerning part about Jed Wills is you weren't sure if he was is good to begin with. [00:23:27] Speaker B: I like how every year for the past two years it seems like we go from, most people just agree that he's not that great to, well, I guess he's the starter again. By default, he's the starter. Cause we didn't get anybody else again. [00:23:44] Speaker A: Like he somehow survived the Baker Mayfield progressive commercials. [00:23:47] Speaker C: He's in the top 30 left tackle in the league. [00:23:51] Speaker A: Just cause he's a starter. [00:23:52] Speaker B: I think probably, I don't know who had that. [00:23:55] Speaker A: Was that from sport like Sports illustrator or somebody? What the top 30? [00:23:58] Speaker C: Oh, no, I just made that up. [00:24:01] Speaker B: It was from bone. It was a bone man special. [00:24:04] Speaker C: What do you say? [00:24:04] Speaker B: Top 32 because he's a starter, like you said. [00:24:08] Speaker A: Fair enough. Fair enough. [00:24:09] Speaker B: Anyways, here's the worst part, is it's not just offensive tackle. Our whole o line has already been decimated by injuries. And the guy that we, that got injured early in the preseason, the first preseason game, broke his ankle. Luke Whippler originally was day to day, which we knew that was week to week because it was a broken ankle, but we, we were hopeful that he'd be able to come back the second half of the year. Nope, out for the season. They just announced today or yesterday. [00:24:34] Speaker A: Feels really bad. [00:24:36] Speaker B: So, yeah, I mean, their whole o line is just going to, going to be completely makeshift this year. And I guess the only thing, the only comfort that I take in this is, well, we made the playoffs last year with the fourth, 5th, 6th string offensive line and yeah. So, I mean, Kevin Stefanski is still the head coach, and he managed to make something out of nothing last year. [00:24:57] Speaker A: You did it with your fifth string quarterback, too, right? [00:24:59] Speaker B: So, I mean, I guess there's that. [00:25:01] Speaker C: This year, we're doing it without Callahan. [00:25:03] Speaker B: That's true. [00:25:03] Speaker A: That's also. [00:25:04] Speaker B: That's true. [00:25:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:06] Speaker A: Yeah. I was hot on that early in the season, like, in the offseason, and I've kind of forgot that, like, we. [00:25:12] Speaker B: Don'T have Bill Callahan anymore. [00:25:13] Speaker A: Callahan anymore. Don't. Just pissed me off again. [00:25:15] Speaker C: Sorry. [00:25:17] Speaker B: There's a reason he's been off the show for a while. [00:25:19] Speaker C: I think we're gonna miss him. [00:25:20] Speaker B: I think we will, too. [00:25:21] Speaker A: I think we talked about last week is they signed Nick Harris as a replacement, and my thought was, it seems. [00:25:26] Speaker C: Like a good signing. [00:25:26] Speaker A: Well, that was my thought, was that they wanted to bring back a guy that had played in the Bill Callahan offensive scheme before. [00:25:31] Speaker B: It was like they knew far enough into it. [00:25:33] Speaker A: They brought. They knew he was brought up. Right. [00:25:35] Speaker C: Sure. [00:25:36] Speaker A: So, yeah, not good. I mean, this offensive line has been bad again. [00:25:40] Speaker B: Not that he's Bill Callahan, though. The guy that is their offensive line coach now, though, has a very good reputation as well. [00:25:46] Speaker A: Sure. [00:25:46] Speaker B: He's not Bill Callahan, but he's considered probably one of the top three or four offensive line coaches in the league. [00:25:52] Speaker A: If we didn't hire him, somebody else was going to. [00:25:53] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:25:55] Speaker A: So. Yeah. [00:25:56] Speaker B: And, like, either that he would have just kept his job. [00:25:57] Speaker A: We don't just have. [00:25:58] Speaker B: We don't. [00:25:58] Speaker A: We don't just have, like, a garbage man there. Like, not to mean garbage man society, but we don't just have. Knowing about football that's, like, garbage. [00:26:07] Speaker B: They better not even come close to our football team, those garbage men. [00:26:11] Speaker A: Yeah. So the injuries are real bad. I know. We're going to talk a little bit more about injuries here in a second. I just had one other observation, you know, as we talked about the preseason and we talked about our quarterbacks already a little bit and how they blew, just not very good. Not paying attention, not take care of the football. Can you name me the quarterbacks to play for the Minnesota Vikings right now? The ones that played on Saturday? [00:26:33] Speaker B: No. [00:26:33] Speaker C: Mullins. [00:26:34] Speaker A: Nick Mullins. Nick Mullins. [00:26:35] Speaker B: I couldn't. Yeah. Nick Mullins. No. [00:26:38] Speaker A: Josh Dobbs, Jaron hall. And Matt Corll is really cows. He had to take steps, but he's on status for some reason. Nick Mullins and Jaron Hall. Nick Mullins. Eleven to 21, 135. And touchdown, Jaron hall. Four or 587 yards. Of two touchdowns. Like, we got made to look like scrubs by, like, literal scrubs guys that. [00:27:01] Speaker B: You never heard of, the garbage man. But I think this all goes back to what we said at the beginning of this. This segment is just that, like, there's no heart in these games. Like, what do you. [00:27:09] Speaker A: But I'm saying, like, DTR and Tyler Huntley, comparatively, like, you would take DTR and Tyler Huntley both a million times over before you're picking Jaron hall out of the lineup. [00:27:18] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree. [00:27:19] Speaker A: What? Like, what are we doing? [00:27:20] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:27:21] Speaker A: I'm concerned. Like, I'm concerned that there's no fight in this team. Like, just at this point in training camp. [00:27:26] Speaker B: That's fair. But my next note here is that it's preseason. We're not going to overreact about anything. I'm overreacting as far as how the team. [00:27:38] Speaker A: This team needs to do something. [00:27:39] Speaker B: I mean, already in the dumpster, so many garbage jokes. But listen, I will say that the biggest concern to me is this offensive line. Like, we're a week away from the season, and we have no idea who's going to be starting for the Browns on the offensive line. [00:27:54] Speaker A: Two weeks or three weeks, kind of. [00:27:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I. But I'm just saying, like, we have a week, basically, to figure this out. [00:28:00] Speaker A: Fair. [00:28:01] Speaker B: And we have no idea. Absolutely none. [00:28:04] Speaker A: Well, look, we've talked a little bit about just the offensive line in general leading up to this, right? Like, we feel. We all feel good about Dawan Jones, but, like, here's the. The truth of it. Like, Duano cert last year, and he's a big bodied guy. So stuff that, like, little body guys come back from sooner. Like, this guy's got a lot more weight and pressure on his joints and things that other people don't have because he's just a massive. [00:28:26] Speaker B: He's a big guy. [00:28:28] Speaker A: Joel Batonio is a thousand years old. Love Joel. But, like, he's a thousand years old. [00:28:32] Speaker B: Wyatt teller has injury issues. [00:28:34] Speaker A: Wyatt Taylor's the one guy that I'm, like, I feel pretty steady about, but, like, pochik on the inside, like, he's been beat up. Like, this offensive line could be a concern all year long. [00:28:43] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. So a couple of things, though. We've been talking about the offensive line. We put together a few guys that we want to look at, right. That that would be potential fits and free agency. Cause you know that they're gonna go out and try and find somebody before the season starts. They have to. [00:28:59] Speaker A: Well, you just. Yeah, you have to. You have to have somebody you can rely on as a thing. And, and there's not a thousand names out there that are, like, tried and true. [00:29:07] Speaker B: No. And the thing you'll notice about this list as we go through it is they're all kind of older guys, but they don't need guys that are gonna last them three, four years. We need a guy that they can plug in right now. [00:29:20] Speaker A: I don't need the left tackle of the future. I need the left tackle of getting me through this year. [00:29:23] Speaker B: Right. So number one on the list here is David Bakhtiari. Six, 4315 pounds. He's 32 years old. He played eleven years for Green Bay. He would bring meanness and focus to the left tackle position. He does have 131 NFL starts. That's a lot. And he's got a. He's got a very good resume. Earned three Pro Bowls, two time. He's a two time first team all pro, three times second team all pro. Obviously extremely experienced. And, and, you know, this is a guy that you put in day one, and he's. He's probably good to go. [00:29:56] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, look, anybody that's watched football over the last decade knows David Bakhtiari. I mean, yes. Just a mean motherfucker. I started saying it and I tried to stop it. [00:30:07] Speaker C: You censored yourself. [00:30:09] Speaker B: Just let it flow, man. It feels good, doesn't it? [00:30:11] Speaker A: Yeah, just a mean dude. The only concern here is that, yeah, I missed all last year with a knee injury, so, I mean, he's supposedly healthy now, but that's the only kind of concern. But other than that, like, resume, look, I mean, this guy, if I. No brainer, you could just pick anybody out of the lineup. The question is, like, is he going to make sense from a financial side of things, too? [00:30:34] Speaker B: Well, at this point, he's not on a team, though, right? [00:30:36] Speaker A: But I'm sure, like, a guy like Baktiari, though, is going to be sought after by other teams that have left tackle injuries that, like, need a stalwart for the rest of the season. So he'll make his money this year. It's just going to be fair. [00:30:45] Speaker B: That's fair. Next up here, DJ Humphries, 6530, 730 years old. He's been pretty durable in his eight years in the NFL, has 98 starts. He's a former first round pick for the Cardinals, and he made the Pro bowl in 2021. So another solid resume, another guy that you just put in there. And really, that's what we're looking at, right? All these guys are guys that you can just plug in and they're ready to go and they can play from day one. [00:31:08] Speaker A: Like, if you could put it in madden terms, like, you're looking for, like the 82. Yeah, like, he's gotta be, like, he's gotta. [00:31:14] Speaker B: Speaking of Nicolas Cage, he's gotta be. [00:31:16] Speaker A: He isn't to be the best, but he can't be. He's gonna be like a solid starter. He's gonna be the solid, solid guy to get you through a season. You know, obviously, guy was an early round pick, you know, played, made a lot of starts in the NFL. I guess. Jed Wills is also a really round pick, so. But again, that's, that's the kind of guy that you're looking for is this, this, this archetype. [00:31:38] Speaker B: Yeah. And then next up here, the final guy that we have for, for a target for the Browns is Charles Leno, junior, 633-0232 years old. Played seven season with seven seasons with the Bears, three with the Commanders. He's played in 149 games with 141 starts, and he had a Pro bowl season in 2018. So again, to your point, about 82 overall. Like, this guy's not, you know, he's, he's, he's not a Joe Thomas by any means, or even that's a Hall of famer. Like, even a, you know, a guy that you're going to pick out and say, this is the guy that we want to build around on the offensive line or anything like that, especially because. [00:32:17] Speaker A: He'S 32, he's a Jag, he's just a guy. [00:32:20] Speaker B: Yeah, he's just a guy. Yeah, but he's a solid guy. [00:32:23] Speaker A: My only concern with a guy, Charles Leno, is it feels like his best days are behind him, so. [00:32:29] Speaker B: But that's okay, right? [00:32:31] Speaker A: I mean, again, we're not looking for the cream of the crop here, but I just think I like these three guys. He's my least favorite option, I think, like a guy. Like, like, I like back to. I'd be excited about. [00:32:40] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree. Bone, any of those guys jump out at you? [00:32:44] Speaker C: I mean, they're all, they all three got Pro Bowls under their belt, so I think that would be step up, a step up, or at least a. [00:32:50] Speaker B: Step, a lateral step because there's a. [00:32:52] Speaker C: Lot of Pro Bowls on RV, but, yeah, Baltiari would be badass. [00:32:57] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree. But while we're talking about free agency here, much has been made about Andrew Barry's spending, but the Brown salary cap is not wasting much money. It came out kind of the list of dead cap spending came out this, this week for the NFL and the Browns were almost at the bottom. They were ranked 27 out of 32 teams with only 15.86 million in dead cap. [00:33:23] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, testament to the magician that is Andrew Barry. I mean, we've talked. We talked about all the contracts and things in the off season and, you know, Mari and Nick Chubb and all these guys. I mean, Dustin Hopkins got extended. So j. Ok. Recently with the extension, and we were wondering the whole time, like, how are we going to pay for this? How are we going to pay for this? Because we have the Deshawn contract and, you know, you got miles out there in Denzel that have big number contracts. Again, testament to this guy for playing with the funny money the right way. He knows how to pull every little. [00:33:53] Speaker B: And I know at times we've questioned some of his moves, too. But if nothing else, like, what have we said for a long time about Cleveland in general? Is that the Guardians? Guardians. I know a lot of people don't agree with this, but the Guardians are by far the best run organization in Cleveland because regard they don't spend a ton of money. However, they always end up making a run at some point or another. And right now it's pretty perfect to talk about. Cause they're one of the top three teams in baseball. They might still be the top team right now, but regardless, they just continually bring up talent and they're able to kind of recycle that. They might have a down year or two, but they're right back at it. [00:34:30] Speaker A: After that, especially in baseball, for being a small middle market team. One of the best run organizations in all professional sports. [00:34:37] Speaker B: Right. But the Browns and Andrew Barry, as far as is being fiscally responsible and making sure that they're. They're competitive, I think that Andrew Barry is heading in that direction. [00:34:49] Speaker A: There's a reason why guys from our front office keep getting picked to go other places. [00:34:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:52] Speaker A: I mean, it's the same as the Guardians end up having the same problem. I mean, guys get picked and plucked to go everywhere else. The only other thing that stuck out to me on this list, Washington, was goddamn the Chiefs. 6 million in dead cap. I mean, what a. Like, you talk about well run organization. They retain their entire team every year. Go to the Super bowl every year. So stupid. Any wasted money at all. [00:35:13] Speaker B: It's so stupid. [00:35:15] Speaker A: Like, how is that even possible? [00:35:17] Speaker B: I hate it. [00:35:17] Speaker C: Lose their best receiver, top receiver in the NFL, and then we're fine. Still win it. Yeah, no problem. [00:35:22] Speaker A: Yeah, you get the best quarterback and. [00:35:23] Speaker B: Who, by the way was named the top player in the NFL, so. Yeah, that's crazy. [00:35:29] Speaker A: But anyways, how many Super Bowls does Tyreek have? [00:35:34] Speaker B: A couple. They won with him, right? No, I thought they won at least one. [00:35:40] Speaker A: I don't think that he won. [00:35:41] Speaker B: Any bones on it? [00:35:44] Speaker A: Patrick has at least two more. [00:35:45] Speaker B: Yeah, but as for camp, this week, getting off a free agent talk into camp and the preseason finale, the Browns will travel to Seattle for this week's game. As of now, the Browns still have the plan in place for Deshawn Watson to start the game. [00:36:00] Speaker C: Why Tyree kill guys has one. Super bowl. [00:36:03] Speaker B: One. [00:36:04] Speaker A: One. And then he was done and that was why he was with the Chiefs. [00:36:07] Speaker B: Yeah, but anyways, the Browns still plan to start Deshaun Watson. [00:36:12] Speaker A: I'll say it again. Why? You have no offensive line. You have zero offense. [00:36:17] Speaker C: I don't know. [00:36:18] Speaker B: There's rumors. There were rumors. I think Fox. No, sports illustrated put out a story that they were potentially rethinking that and they might not start him, which I think is a good idea. [00:36:28] Speaker A: Great idea. [00:36:29] Speaker B: But then Fox Sports came back and refuted that and said, no, no, no. Despite the injuries, Deshaun Watson will still play. [00:36:36] Speaker A: As much as I want to see Deshaun Watson play, I will wait three more weeks to. [00:36:41] Speaker B: What are you actually going to get out of this speaker? [00:36:43] Speaker D: Three. [00:36:43] Speaker A: Not have him murdered on the field. [00:36:44] Speaker B: Yeah, what are you going to get? He better only be playing like four plays and they better be like slants. [00:36:48] Speaker A: And what's the point of that? [00:36:49] Speaker B: Nothing was. [00:36:50] Speaker A: You're every, every minute he's out there is just a risk of risk. [00:36:54] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree. I don't, I don't understand it either. Like, at this point, just cut your losses and say we're going to have to get right in the first three weeks of the season. [00:37:01] Speaker A: It's almost like they're doing it just because they said they were going to do it. It's like, you don't have to be proud here, guys. Like, things have changed. [00:37:06] Speaker B: We made a mistake. [00:37:07] Speaker A: Don't have an offensive line. [00:37:09] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, the circumstances are not the same as when you, you made that statement. [00:37:13] Speaker A: No. [00:37:14] Speaker B: So, yeah, I don't know. And then here's the other thing. So when, when Joe Hayden, well respected former Cleveland Brown, retired Cleveland Brown. So we all love him. Love Joe. [00:37:28] Speaker A: I got a Hayden jersey somewhere. [00:37:29] Speaker B: Yeah, he was, he was on either a podcast or a radio show this week. And when he was told about the team's third and final preseason game at 10:00 p.m. eastern time in Seattle, Joe had this to say. That doesn't sound like a starter strip. Like, no shit. Like what? Like, at this point, with all the injuries and everything else going on, like, why, why would that be a bad idea to just say, listen, all the starters, you guys are all injured. We're just, we're going to give you one extra week of rest. And like I said, like, yeah, sure, that's probably rough, having to go into the season saying, we're going to have to tighten things up in those first three weeks of the season, and we might lose a game because we're not quite there. But I'd rather you do that than start the season injured. [00:38:11] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, come out in a walking boot. [00:38:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:14] Speaker A: What are we doing here? Yeah. Makes no sense at all. This seems silly. [00:38:20] Speaker B: Also, hindsight being 2020 and not even 2020, you knew the game before the preseason started. The final preseason game was at 10:00 p.m. eastern. Why is that the game that you've chosen to make all your starters play? Like, why, why didn't you choose a. [00:38:33] Speaker A: Different game last week? It should have. They should have played against the Vikings. [00:38:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:37] Speaker A: And the other thing is, by all accounts, Deshawn had a really nice week against the Vikings in team practices. I saw one. No, no, I wasn't there. Right. But this is from whatever media was reporting there was, the Deshaun was something like 44 of 50 with seven touchdowns and team drills against the Vikings. [00:38:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:54] Speaker A: Like, they said he was spectacular. So, like, what's going to be different? [00:38:58] Speaker B: I don't see, like, why do you have to see him play? I don't get it. I don't get it. Seattle don't get it. I digress, though. I'm not, I don't want to talk about it anymore. So instead, we're going to do our preseason. I guess we will talk about it more. A preseason week three preview. This is the preview. Don't get injured. [00:39:15] Speaker A: Don't get injured. Yeah. Like, like, the only goal here is to come out of this game as healthy as possible. [00:39:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:20] Speaker A: Again, I want to see these guys, at least in the running back room, in the wide receiver room that are bubble guys, fight for a spot, but everybody else, like, just come home healthy. [00:39:29] Speaker B: If you already know that you will be playing, meaning meaningful snaps for the Browns this season. Don't get hurt. [00:39:35] Speaker A: Don't get hurt. [00:39:35] Speaker B: That's the goal. [00:39:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:36] Speaker B: Don't get hurt. [00:39:37] Speaker A: Just don't go. [00:39:38] Speaker C: Don't go to Seattle. Yeah. Stay home. Don't show up. [00:39:40] Speaker A: Stay home. [00:39:41] Speaker B: We don't need you take the fine. Yeah, yeah. Guys, I think I'm gonna sit this one out. Not going, but anyways. Notable roster moves for the Browns. Browns waved wide receiver Matt Landers today like office space. [00:39:53] Speaker A: Like I don't think I'm gonna go to work today. [00:39:56] Speaker B: Won't they fire you? I don't know, but yeah. The notable roster moves. The Browns waved wide receiver Matt Landers today. [00:40:04] Speaker A: This was the. [00:40:05] Speaker B: He's the one guy that tried to. [00:40:07] Speaker A: Earn it and he was the honeymooner of camp. I mean, is this why talking about Matt Landers and I mean, to be honest, he didn't do anything in the last two games, so. [00:40:14] Speaker B: Fair. Well, I was just gonna say is this why though that nobody tries is cuz they're like, well, I'm just gonna get cut anyway, so I guess I'll just. [00:40:22] Speaker A: I mean, I get. I guess it's, you know, it is a long shot for some of these guys, right? Because you have guys like David Bell Untilman. They were drafted here and already on the team, like incumbent spots. And then you got Jamari Thrash and Amari on Brown who like they've showed interest in recently. And Jamari Thrash was, I think thrash was drafted, Omarion was undrafted. So it's like, I guess if you're a galley Matt Landers, you're probably on the outside looking in to begin with. But, but still, like, how did the nobles become noble in the first? [00:40:56] Speaker B: They took it at the tip of a sword. [00:40:59] Speaker A: Yeah. Get out there and fight for it. I know. [00:41:01] Speaker B: So I. Yeah, I was a little. Whatever. I don't know. Nobody tries, apparently that's the bottom line. [00:41:07] Speaker A: We're the only ones trying out here. [00:41:09] Speaker B: In other browns news, this one I hate. Mike hall junior was arrested in a horrific domestic dispute situation this past week. Avon police officers were called to Hall's home Monday evening. Evening police were told an argument between hall and his fiance began over finances regarding a dental procedure for her child. But things quickly escalated. Hall allegedly pressed a gun against the woman's temple, threw a baby bottle at her and dragged her out of the house. All of this while two other children and the mother in law were in the home. Not good anytime. But when you're endangering other people as well, exponentially worse. Especially children. Like, like again, not good ever. Not good ever. [00:41:53] Speaker A: But there's, I mean, just like Perry and Winfrey vibes. [00:41:57] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. It's very, very scary. [00:42:00] Speaker A: I mean, just the fact that if you're like, I mean, no one should do this, but like the lack of awareness. If you're a first round pick. I mean, I guess he's a second round, but he was essentially our first round picked. [00:42:14] Speaker B: I mean, well, we say this all the time. Like, to even put yourself in a situation. [00:42:17] Speaker A: Situation, I guess, is my point. [00:42:19] Speaker B: Like, one, one. If you're an NFL football player, you especially a first round, second round draft pick, like, he's still doing well. It's not like he signed a, you know, crap contract. [00:42:30] Speaker A: No. [00:42:31] Speaker B: Like, you have enough money. Hire a bodyguard. You don't ever carry a firearm. [00:42:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:35] Speaker B: Like, if you're an NFL player, don't carry a firearm because only bad things happen. [00:42:39] Speaker A: Don't drive anywhere. Let's hire a driver. [00:42:41] Speaker B: Right? [00:42:43] Speaker C: I mean, the dude had to make a decision to pick that thing up and put it against his girlfriend head. Like, what? [00:42:48] Speaker B: Like, is true. [00:42:50] Speaker C: The dudes a coward. I mean, look how big he is, first of all. [00:42:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:53] Speaker C: And he's weak minded. [00:42:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:55] Speaker C: If you're doing shit like that dude. That dude. [00:42:57] Speaker B: Right. [00:42:58] Speaker C: And so not raised right. And nobody gave that kid a whooping or something. I don't know, but. [00:43:04] Speaker A: And we, like, when it first broke, we kind of said the same thing. We were. [00:43:07] Speaker B: We all text each other. I said, I said, if this all is true, this dude does forget about football. Like, he shouldn't be playing football. He should be in jail. [00:43:14] Speaker A: Right. [00:43:14] Speaker B: For a while, and he's a danger to society. [00:43:17] Speaker A: This doesn't sound like one of those. It was the mother in law. I think they called the police, at least from my understanding. Like, this doesn't sound like something that was sensational. Like, this was pretty cut. Like, drag her outside by her hair, put a gun to her head, told her it's gonna end it all. There's not a lot of details to make me go, well, oh, maybe there's another side to this story. Literally, there's no excuse for that ever. [00:43:43] Speaker B: Right. The only thing that gives me pause and think, to think that maybe there is another side of the story is the fact that the browns have not cut him yet. And I know that all these teams have their own internal resources that they can use to gather stories, talk to people, do whatever they need to do. The fact that they haven't cut him yet, he remains on the team. And, in fact, they let him. Let him practice and said that he played Saturday. Yeah. He's, you know, they're letting the. They said they're letting the legal process play out. That's the only thing that. That tells me that maybe the story is slightly different, but regardless, regardless nobody, including Mike Hall Junior, has come out and said he didn't do any of those things. So if you did those things, I don't care about football anymore. You should be in jail. Once you threaten another human's life, I mean, and put children in danger on top of it, you should be in jail. [00:44:33] Speaker A: It's an interesting departure from where most NFL clubs have been for the last two decades, which is a story like this breaks and you're not immediately cut. [00:44:43] Speaker B: Right. [00:44:45] Speaker A: So. [00:44:46] Speaker B: And it's kind of. [00:44:47] Speaker A: Maybe Andrew Beer and company know something we don't. It's hard to believe that, given the. Just the details seem pretty cut and clear. [00:44:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:55] Speaker A: I think that if they keep him on the team and let's say he plays four or eight weeks until this thing gets sorted out, like, and then it comes out and he gets charged, convicted, whatever, like, the rounds look really bad here. [00:45:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, and that was going to be my next comment is. Is. Is on the flip side of this. That happens. Right. And, and it's a scary thing to think about. Just, like, where the Browns are as an organization that they're so tone deaf to things that have recently happened in their past and people they've signed that they let this guy practice and play. [00:45:31] Speaker A: Well. [00:45:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:31] Speaker A: I mean, the message is winning Trump's all, and we don't care how we get there. [00:45:36] Speaker B: And I would say most Clevelanders, and, and I know, you know, whatever most Clevelanders would say, we would not trade as much as we want a Super bowl. You're not trading this type of behavior for a Super bowl like those. [00:45:50] Speaker A: But on the flip side, it's hard to play that, too, when you've already done the Deshawn deal. Right. I mean, and that's a different story. Also, I'm not gonna relitigate the whole thing, but it's just like, between Deshawn and now. I mean, this is a bad look for the breath. I don't know how you don't at least immediately come out and say, he's suspended until we know, until we know something else that they would let him play the next. [00:46:09] Speaker B: That's what I don't understand. It's just wild. [00:46:11] Speaker A: You can't keep letting this guy practice and play if you're gonna let the legal process play out, because in the event that it doesn't go well for him, you look really, you look like you're sanctioning or. And not condemning what is well. [00:46:25] Speaker B: And they. Obviously, the NFL has the exempt list for a reason. Like, you throw them on that because you don't know what's going on. [00:46:32] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:46:33] Speaker B: Like, why are you letting him? I don't know, but here's what I will say. In his first day of practice, after the story broke, he was unable to finish after sustaining a stinger. So, I mean, is that, like. [00:46:43] Speaker A: Yeah, my karma. Well, my thoughts on that are probably, like, he showed the practice and kind of felt weird. Like, it shouldn't be there anyway. And you were kind of like, I might take myself out of drills. Yeah, this hurts. [00:46:52] Speaker B: I would probably agree. [00:46:54] Speaker A: Cause it's just. I mean, it's gonna be uncomfortable for him, too, right? I mean, all of a sudden, everybody knows your dirty laundry. [00:47:01] Speaker B: Here's the sad part about Mike Hall Junior is. Is he was. He went to streetsboro high School. He's, like, literally the most local kid. [00:47:08] Speaker A: Like, he has a ton of expectations. [00:47:09] Speaker B: He's right in our backyard. He went to Ohio State. He then got drafted by the Browns in the second round. Like, he's a hometown kid. And for you to have all that at your fingertips and not only fuck it up for yourself, but put people in danger, like, what is wrong with you? [00:47:26] Speaker A: Well, that's what I said. My first, remember was, like, the lack of awareness to be in that situation, to begin to in with, is astounding to me, because if you're a defensive tackle and you're. You're coming in with this type of, like, you know, a ability and b, expectation. If you're 70% of a guy, like what Aaron Donald was, you're going to make $100 million in your NFL career. Like, over the course of your career, you're going to make a hundred million dollars. Are you going to. You're going to throw that away or some argument you had at 10:00 with a girlfriend or a fiancee, whoever, about what? Braces or something, like, what do we do? What are we doing here? Like, you gotta be smarter than that. [00:48:07] Speaker B: It's just wild. [00:48:08] Speaker A: And you're. [00:48:08] Speaker B: But you're a freaking NFL player. You're gonna really complain about your wife wanting to get your kid braces, like, get out of here. [00:48:13] Speaker A: But to bone's point, I mean, maybe this guy's just never had anybody that really, like. I mean, he doesn't have the right stuff to be able to compartmentalize and deal with that. [00:48:23] Speaker B: I mean, to be honest, that's what it sounds like to me. [00:48:25] Speaker C: He's always bigger, bigger, faster, stronger than everybody, right? [00:48:29] Speaker B: Yeah. He doesn't. It's always been easy for him. He doesn't have the mental capacity to handle challenges in his life, maybe, I don't know. But to much happier things here. A day at the museum. Brown's defensive end. Sounds like a movie. Brown's defensive end, Miles Garrett, hosts the third annual back to school kickoff for local kids at the Cleveland Museum of Natural History. So, yeah, so he had this back to school kickoff. He hosted local families at one of his favorite places, which is that museum of natural. You guys, you guys think that he likes it so much because he's Jurassic. Miles. [00:49:04] Speaker A: Good one. [00:49:04] Speaker B: Is that. [00:49:05] Speaker C: Yeah, they got a nice. What do they got a big old T rex in there, don't they? [00:49:08] Speaker B: Yeah, see, no, this was just a great thing. It was just a good story of. [00:49:13] Speaker A: Just bring us back up after the negative story. You know what? [00:49:17] Speaker B: Also, there are browns out there doing good things, too, so, yeah, I mean, this is cool. [00:49:20] Speaker A: I mean, we love seeing you guys get involved in the community. This was obviously a good thing. This is neither here nor there. But you guys see that the rainforest is closed. Closing down. [00:49:29] Speaker B: Yeah, they're. Because the primates are moving up to the front of the. We were just there. [00:49:32] Speaker A: Well, they're gonna make it. They're gonna close it for like, two years and then make it just a primate exam. Like, the rainforest itself is, like, done. [00:49:38] Speaker B: Yeah, like, it's done. [00:49:39] Speaker A: Wow. Sad, right? [00:49:41] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:49:41] Speaker A: We grew up going to that place. Like, whether field trips or even just, like, my parents taking me, like, with. [00:49:46] Speaker B: Friends, it'll be interesting to see if they do kind of like, where you kind of felt like you were, especially for a kid. You feel like you're in the rainforest. [00:49:53] Speaker A: There's nothing else like that. You can go to the zoo and Akron, but there's nothing like. [00:49:57] Speaker B: But what I'm saying is so, like, you know, the primate house is way up at the. The top right now. Right. And it's just kind of the. [00:50:02] Speaker C: Takes a while to walk to it. [00:50:03] Speaker B: Yeah, it's just like a box. It's like a. Just a building with, like, a bunch of exhibits in it. Like, I wonder if they're gonna do more of a. Like, it feels like you're like an immersive type thing up there with the primate exhibits as well. [00:50:15] Speaker A: Well, like, you wanna be a primate? [00:50:18] Speaker C: I'm sure it will be. I mean, if they're. They're demoing that and rebuilding something. [00:50:22] Speaker B: Well, and that's what I'm hoping. And I'm wondering if. I don't know what the plans are. [00:50:26] Speaker A: The focal point. [00:50:26] Speaker B: I don't know what the plans are for where the primate house is now, like, if they're just. [00:50:31] Speaker A: Sounds like they're replacing the whole exhibit with the primate, like it's just going to be the primate exhibit. [00:50:36] Speaker B: No, I understand, but the primate house is at the top of the hill now. So what's going to go there when the primates move to the front? [00:50:40] Speaker A: Probably nothing. Storage from the rainforest. [00:50:43] Speaker B: Storage. I think they're going to put in a new thing up there. But anyways, I did see that because we were at the zoo. All right, so we've, we've talked a lot about the stadium the past few weeks as it has been, you know, back and forth battle with the Browns, the city of Cleveland, all that good stuff. We said when they released it, the city of Cleveland. Cleveland. Their offer to the browns to help foot the bill was just to keep the keep. It was like a pr move. It was just to keep the residents happy, to show them something to say, hey, we tried. We did everything we could to keep them here, but it really didn't hold a lot of water. No pun intended. Cleveland. But cleveland.com ran a story this week about how when adjusted for inflation, the city would barely be helping at all and that there's a reason the Browns are going their own direction. I think that the number that it came at and was only, it only covered like a third of it or something like that, which is exactly what we've been saying all along. It's just a. It was never a serious offer. [00:51:41] Speaker A: It was. It was just to play the game. [00:51:44] Speaker B: Yeah. And so we'll, we'll talk more about the stadium here in a little bit. But I just thought it was very interesting that. Just give it a week and everybody's already figuring this thing out. [00:51:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:54] Speaker B: So finally here in the burning river rundown, former Browns QB Colt McCoy has announced his retirement from football. Going to enter the tv booth. Will serve as an analyst for NBC during Big ten games, making his debut September 7 with the Colorado Nebraska game. [00:52:10] Speaker A: I can see Colt making the NFL commentating game at some point. I mean, I think it's a good move for him to start in college football. I like Colt. Look, I got nothing against Colt. Colt played his heart out here. I mean, got his ass kicked a bunch of times playing for bad Browns. [00:52:25] Speaker B: Teams, but wow, it's the greatest clip of all time that we can't find. [00:52:29] Speaker A: I think he was ahead of his time and like, he was the first Browns quarterback. I remember that, like he started, started the Colt camp where he like, took all the receivers to Texas and like, now they all do that. But, like, that was, at least at that point in my life, the first time I had seen a quarterback in Cleveland fair say, hey, let's all go down to my hometown, and I got a million acres of land. Cause my dad's an oil baron and let's play football. [00:52:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:52:51] Speaker A: But, like, I have fond memories of cold. You know, they would. They beat the Giants and the Patriots, like, back to back week. [00:52:56] Speaker B: Like, right when he. His first couple starts, wasn't it his, like, first four starts? They. And they were both. At that time, they were, like, the best teams in football. Football. Yeah. [00:53:03] Speaker A: Yeah. So I have fond memories of cold and look, the guy's made himself a nice career out of being a backup. He's got. He's played, too. He just was a backup and sat the bench everywhere he went. He had a lot of games played in Arizona and I think Washington. He had a really nice career for a guy that was a mid round pick that kind of came in. It was just toughed it out forever. [00:53:26] Speaker B: Yeah. And so let's see, three. Cole McCoy. I know there's at least two other Browns quarterbacks. [00:53:35] Speaker A: Brady Quinn, Jason. [00:53:39] Speaker B: Yeah. There's basically what I'm trying to say is the Browns just breed QB broadcasters. [00:53:45] Speaker A: Oh, broadcasters. I think you talk about backups that played for the Redskins and the Browns. [00:53:50] Speaker B: QB broadcasters. We're the best at that. [00:53:53] Speaker A: Who's the quarterback? I'm thinking of Jason. Play for the Browns and, like, the team. [00:53:57] Speaker B: Campbell. [00:53:58] Speaker A: Campbell. Yeah. [00:53:59] Speaker B: Chase Campbell. But no, no, no. I was talking about broadcasters. We're the best at creating those. Oh, yeah, for sure. So real quick here, let's take a quick trip around the AFC north. We'll start with the Cincinnati Bengals. They unveiled an all orange uniform. With this news came the announcement that they will be opening the season with an orange out September 8 against the New England patriots. Thoughts on the all orange uniforms, guys? [00:54:24] Speaker A: First off, the orange on orange combination is just absolute fire. [00:54:28] Speaker B: It literally looks like fire. [00:54:29] Speaker A: I hate Cincinnati. I hate the stripes, the tiger stripes. I hate the fact that they stole our colors to begin with, and I'm just sad that we never go orange on orange. [00:54:38] Speaker B: We should go orange on orange. [00:54:39] Speaker A: The only person that ever went orange on orange was Dante Hittner on the day they released the old jerseys. He's the only orange on orange they ever. [00:54:45] Speaker B: The only time they said, here's what it would look like, but we're not gonna wear it. [00:54:48] Speaker A: It was super cool. I played every Madden game. Orange, orange, orange is pretty cool. [00:54:53] Speaker C: Brown's dropped the ball in Cincinnati just take that. Just take it right from under us. [00:54:58] Speaker B: It really did. [00:54:58] Speaker A: Oh, and we don't even wear the orange jerseys anymore to be, honey, really, the orange pants. [00:55:02] Speaker B: But I don't even know that it's in our current comment. I don't even know. We don't have an orange jersey currently. No, it's just brown and white right now. [00:55:09] Speaker A: I mean, that was. [00:55:11] Speaker B: They still have orange pants that they can wear, but there's no orange jersey in their current. [00:55:15] Speaker A: They should really release one. [00:55:17] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree, Clark. [00:55:18] Speaker A: Orange is the best orange in football. [00:55:20] Speaker B: I agree to your point earlier in the show that white on white is going to get old because not only do they have their normal white on white, but their throwbacks are white on white as well. So it's just like orange white, you. [00:55:30] Speaker A: Know, like as an away uniform. Like just never. It's definitely never been special to me. [00:55:34] Speaker B: Yeah. But next up here, Baltimore. Their offense continue to struggle in the preseason, particularly their O line has much of the fan base panicking and much of the coaching staff rambling because you went out, you got Derek Henry to improve the rushing game, an already potent rushing game. But then all of a sudden, some of these losses that they, they've occurred, that occurred in the offseason between their defense or offensive line, what have you started to stack up? And if you can't block for them, what is going and getting Derek Henry going to do for you? [00:56:07] Speaker A: I hate Baltimore, but I think, I think they'll write the ship and they'll be okay. I still think preseason is going to be a force. [00:56:14] Speaker B: We just chalk it up. Preseason. [00:56:15] Speaker A: Yeah, I still. Derek Henry's gonna be a force to be reckoned with this year. It's gonna be a real pain in our ass all year long. [00:56:20] Speaker B: I'm okay with that. [00:56:21] Speaker C: They have a different take. Oh, Baltimore's running backs get hurt every single year. The only running back for Baltimore that lasts is Gus Edwards. He'll be their starter by week five. [00:56:32] Speaker B: Oh, hot take. I like it. [00:56:33] Speaker A: Fair enough. [00:56:34] Speaker B: You should call it hot take. [00:56:35] Speaker C: They just get hurt every year. Like three or four of them go down and then that's true. Lo and behold, there's Gus Edwards still carrying the ball. [00:56:42] Speaker B: Gus, he's always, I can't cut him because he's the only guy that can ever stay healthy for him. [00:56:47] Speaker A: I mean, that is fair. But I think it's because partly because they run their running backs into the ground. Yeah, they, they, that is a rush. First offense, even with Lamar. I mean, his, his passing attack is one look and if it's not there, I'm using my legs. [00:57:00] Speaker B: Gotta get out of here. Can't stay here. And then finally, the Pittsburgh Steelers dropped to zero and two in the preseason. The offense failed to put the ball in the end zone and their two week total for points this preseason is a whopping 15. [00:57:15] Speaker A: Look, all I would say is I think our point total is like a whopping 19. [00:57:19] Speaker B: It's still more than Pittsburgh's. No, I think my only take from this, I actually don't care about all, you know, the point total as much as I care about the fact that I just hope this quarterback controversy continues into the season. Continues throughout the season. I just keep going back and forth. [00:57:37] Speaker A: I hate Pittsburgh too. [00:57:38] Speaker B: So I will say this. We've talked a lot in the offseason about Pittsburgh potentially winning the division because they did make a lot of really good moves. The longer this quarterback controversy goes on, I could see them losing a decent amount. [00:57:50] Speaker A: Here's the other thing you're forgetting. Their head coach is Mike Tomlin. [00:57:54] Speaker B: That's true. They're gonna be at least 500. [00:57:57] Speaker A: And something tells me that, like, mike Tomlin's not gonna put up with a serious quarterback controversy. [00:58:02] Speaker B: He's just gonna name one and go with it and just be like, that's what I chose. That's what we're sticking. [00:58:06] Speaker A: And it's Mike Tomlin. So he'll probably choose. Right. As much as we wanna believe that that's true, as much as we wanna believe that there's dumpster on fire in Pittsburgh, like, not gonna happen. Mike, Tom, like, to be fair, this is. [00:58:17] Speaker B: I actually agree with pretty much everything you're saying is even though I'm. I want to look further into some of these things with, with the AFC north rivals. We're all going to start the season about the same. We're all going to finish the season about the same. They have seen north is the best division of football and everybody's going to be good. So it is what it is. [00:58:37] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, we talked about like the Green Bay quarterbacks for like 40 years. They've had three quarters quarterbacks like Mike Tomlin and then cower. [00:58:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:52] Speaker A: And like, who was 4k. [00:58:53] Speaker B: Yeah. They, they do the same thing with. [00:58:55] Speaker A: Coaches and stable organization over there. So that's fair. [00:59:00] Speaker B: And then real quick, some notes from around the league. I just have one. Patrick Mahomes completed a behind the back pass in a preseason game. And I just got to say I hate this guy. I just hate him. [00:59:10] Speaker A: It doesn't make sense that they get better every year. [00:59:11] Speaker B: I just hate him. He just is good. It's stupid. It doesn't make any sense. But that'll take us to the hot three. Hot three. [00:59:20] Speaker A: Energy in your lungs I'm the smoke. [00:59:22] Speaker B: In the sky I'm the gas in. [00:59:24] Speaker A: The tank gonna turn it up turn. [00:59:26] Speaker C: It down hot I'm hot to the. [00:59:28] Speaker B: Touch burning up I'm hot hot to the touch I'm hot to the touch burning up I'm hot I'm hot like fire fire fire fire but anyways, this is a new segment this year where we pick a category, and we have to give our hot three in that category. From there, you can tell us who is right, who is wrong, and what we missed this week. I got a good one for you guys. If you saw will Ferrell in public, what quotes are your go tos? To just shout at him. You just gotta shout these. These are just quick. So we're gonna start with bone. Bone. [00:59:59] Speaker C: Oh, man. I wrote these out. [01:00:02] Speaker B: All right, let's hear them. [01:00:04] Speaker C: I almost nunchucked you. You don't even realize. Wedding crashers. Of course. [01:00:09] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got it. Santa. [01:00:13] Speaker C: Oh, my God. Santa here. I know him. I know him. [01:00:18] Speaker A: Bonus doing with Will Ferrell's inflection, it's better than just saying the line. [01:00:22] Speaker B: I love it. [01:00:23] Speaker C: It's gonna come. It's gonna sound terrible, like on the recording. But this one's. This one's a little lesser known. I think it's a little longer. But. Now you listen to me, you fat faced cobnobbler. I don't know who you are or what butthole you crawled out of, but this is my. My woman and our baby. And every night he gets swaddled in the tightest of pants. What's that one from Jimmy found? Late night. [01:00:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:47] Speaker A: Nice. [01:00:47] Speaker B: I like it. [01:00:47] Speaker C: Everybody's talking about my tight pants. That skit. It's my favorite skit. [01:00:53] Speaker B: I just went movie quotes from. I'll go next. I just went movie quotes from. I didn't even think about to use his other media. But we'll start with number three here, Ma. The meatloaf. Great. [01:01:03] Speaker A: Classic. Classic. [01:01:05] Speaker B: And mind you, mine are all quick like one liners. Because I thought of this as, like, what I would shout at. I'm like. I just saw I missed it. Yours were a little longer. I still like them. And I think will Ferrell would appreciate yours. But number two for me, you're my boy. Blue. [01:01:19] Speaker A: Classic. [01:01:19] Speaker C: Love that line. [01:01:20] Speaker B: And then finally, it has to be number one for me. I mean, we lived our whole high school years being this movie. So shake a bake, shake a bake. [01:01:28] Speaker A: Shake a bake, shake a baked. Shake it before you bake it. [01:01:31] Speaker B: What is that? Epilepsy. If you smell something crispy coming from your tailpipe, it's not your engine. It's a little bit of shake and bake. Shake a bank. [01:01:43] Speaker A: Shake a bank. [01:01:45] Speaker B: Kenny, what do you got? [01:01:46] Speaker A: God, I love this topic. I mean, this is. You could do top three just from Talladega nights. Like, from so many. [01:01:51] Speaker B: Will Ferrell, are we about to get along? Cause I'm as hard as a diamond in an eye store. [01:01:55] Speaker A: I mean, thinking about this, I was just in stitches all day. Like, all that. Like, when Will Ferrell dies and we have to think about, like, his contribution to America and society and culture. Like, it is vast, full of one liners, of just, like, absolute hilarity. [01:02:10] Speaker B: What are your three? [01:02:10] Speaker A: Number three? I'll meet you there with shaken, bake tall, deggy nights. Cause you were shake. I was in baked. [01:02:17] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:02:18] Speaker A: Just classic, classic will Ferrell number two. And I was like, emilio. [01:02:25] Speaker B: Ducks guy. The mighty ducks guy. No way. I swear to God. Where did God. Where did God. [01:02:35] Speaker A: And then my favorite, and this might just be because it's like a core memory from growing up, my favorite will Ferrell skit anything of all time, was the dysfunctional family dinner on SNL. So mad you were listening to me. I'm driving John Stratus. [01:02:54] Speaker B: I drive down Stratus. And Sarah Michelle Geller's just looking at him like, what are you talking about right now? I drive a Dodge Stratus. [01:03:03] Speaker A: I manage 39 people. I drive a Dodge Stratus. Like, I think that was from before. Like, I started living my life by movie quotes. And that's just the first quote that's in my brain, is Walter Holt dies. Like, that was the symbol of I. [01:03:22] Speaker B: Drive a Todd Stratus. [01:03:23] Speaker A: Middle class success. I drive a Todd Stratus. You can't talk to me that way. [01:03:30] Speaker B: All right, guys, so those are our hot three. Real quick to close out this segment, just throw out any will Ferrell quotes you can think of at the top of your head that are. That make everybody laugh. Throw me some chicken. [01:03:41] Speaker A: That was so close to being on my list. Like, so many of them are so upset. [01:03:45] Speaker B: I'm in a glass case of emotion. [01:03:47] Speaker C: 100, 102. [01:03:51] Speaker B: I don't know if you were listening. I was over 100 there. [01:03:55] Speaker A: I believe diversity refers to an old, old wooden ship. [01:03:57] Speaker B: Unique New York. The arsonist had oddly shaped feet. The human torch was denied a bank loan today. [01:04:03] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. If you don't chew Big Red, then you baxter. [01:04:08] Speaker C: You know I don't speak Spanish. [01:04:11] Speaker A: I'm not even mad. I'm just impressed. Do you eat a whole wheel of cheese? [01:04:14] Speaker B: Did we just become best friends? It was Johnny Hopkins and Sloan Kettering, and we were blazing that shit all day. I always have little river band loaded up LRB. [01:04:27] Speaker A: I'm not calling him dad. Not even there's a fire. [01:04:29] Speaker B: Oh, my God, there's so many quotes. So many quotes. We'll leave it at that. [01:04:35] Speaker C: And that is the hot three win in Rome. [01:04:39] Speaker B: When in Rome. All right, so next up here, let's talk about the Nick Chubb football giveaway. For the second offseason in a row, we are giving away some autographed browns paraphernalia. That word wasn't even in there. But that's the word I used. And for the second year in a row, it's a Nick Chubb autographed item. This year of football. [01:04:58] Speaker A: There it is. [01:04:59] Speaker B: Last year, Jersey. This year of football. The winner will be chosen from our YouTube subscribers. We will announce the winner the morning of opening day. So what is that? September 8 against the Cowboys? There are other ways that you can earn bonus entries besides subscribing on YouTube. Head to our socials and keep an eye out for more information on how to earn those entries. The link is in the show notes. You can go to our social media for more information, but bottom line is, be subscribed on YouTube. That's how you get entered. [01:05:25] Speaker A: That's where you see all of our full length podcast episodes. So why would you not be a subscriber? [01:05:31] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't know. If you're not, you're wrong. [01:05:33] Speaker A: You're wrong. [01:05:34] Speaker B: So again, link in the show notes for everything. Also on our social medias. But with that, let's take a quick revenue break and then get back here and talk more. Browns Topath distillery top at distillery an award winning craft distillery located in Akron, Ohio, Topat Distillery focuses on high quality spirits carefully made in small batches. 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It's from 05:30 p.m. to nine and the tickets are $35 and what that includes is party admission, front row seats to watch us record our season preview episode. Meet and greets with former Browns players John Hughes and Frank stams meet and greet with Browns on field Mc Bridget Linton autograph sessions with former Browns players and Bridget Linton if you'd like. Distillery tour distillery spirit tasting and there will be additional food and drink available for purchase. So come have a kick ass time as we kick off Brown season. The link for that is in our show notes as well. Kenny, tell him. Tell him a little more. [01:07:25] Speaker A: Yeah. So also, don't forget that the second half of my punishment is to take place event where I have to do shots of all of the Topaz spirits. [01:07:34] Speaker B: So which there's at least eight of them that you're not just getting a. [01:07:37] Speaker A: Front row seat to us recording our podcast, you're also getting a front row seat to me. Blacking out drunk look, great lineup. John Hughes, Frank Stammes, phony. Very nice guys. Bridget, Lyn, just awesome. Irish dancer, world class. I will probably battle her and irish dancing by the time I've had. [01:07:58] Speaker B: Yes. Now that we'll have a straight off. And that's worth $35. [01:08:04] Speaker A: Just that to top it all off, merchant Tavern. I can't say enough good things about merchant Tavern. Obviously the distillery is in there and the tour and the tastings be great, but probably one of the best restaurants at the greater Akron area and probably the state of the whole city of Ohio. It's just awesome, awesome food, awesome people gonna take great care of everybody there. It's gonna be a kick ass time. [01:08:24] Speaker B: Absolutely. [01:08:24] Speaker A: Do you invite your folks? Moan? [01:08:26] Speaker C: I think so. [01:08:27] Speaker A: Make sure, make sure you come in and your wife's folks might everybody be a party. [01:08:32] Speaker B: Bring your kids, bring your wives. Don't bring your kids. There's lots of alcohol. That'll be. And then next up, New Orleans. True fan travel trip. That's right. You heard it here first. You've heard it a few times, but we're saying it again. Burning river sports cast will be heading down to New Orleans with true fan travel. This event includes optional round trip private charter flight, three night stay at Renaissance New Orleans Pere Marquette French Quarter welcome party, which is all inclusive river cruise down the Mississippi river with the dog pound, Q and A with Kevin Mack. A pep rally the day before all inclusive tailgate the day of the game, tickets to the game at the Superdome and on site trip coordinators to handle any questions or issues that may arise while you're down there. So from start to finish, they're just taking care of everything. [01:09:22] Speaker A: Everything. [01:09:23] Speaker B: It's basically a home game, but it's an away game. [01:09:25] Speaker A: Yeah. You're making an away game a home game. [01:09:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:09:28] Speaker A: But in addition, you also get to have your own time to go out and explore a new city. Somewhere fun to be. Yeah, we're really looking forward to this. Obviously, the. The three of us will be. Will be headed down, so you can come with us with the burning river sportscast on the all inclusive boat cruise down to Mississippi river with the dog pound. With the dog pound and burning river sportscast. [01:09:45] Speaker B: Absolutely. [01:09:46] Speaker C: I'm so pumped for that. [01:09:47] Speaker A: Gonna be a hell of time. And I'm actually looking forward to this tailgate because my guess is there's gonna be some really dope ass fair at this event. [01:09:56] Speaker B: Oh, I agree. [01:09:57] Speaker A: You know, for. For as big as this thing's going to be, there's. There's probably going to be some really delectable snacks. [01:10:02] Speaker B: Absolutely. Absolutely. It's going to be lit. Make sure you get your tickets. Tickets for that. There's a link in the show notes where you can go get tickets for that as well. Join us. It's going to be a hell of a time. [01:10:13] Speaker A: No Orleans. [01:10:14] Speaker B: No Orleans. But right now, we've got a new interview series for 2024. [01:10:27] Speaker A: Powered by Riverside FM. [01:10:35] Speaker B: All right, so coming into the season, we wanted to collaborate with some of the people that contribute to Brown's media and give us all the information regarding our hometown team that we so religiously consume year round. This next gentleman has a blog and has built himself a decent following on social media media. He does a great job covering the Browns and supporting the team. You know him on Facebook as the Cardiac Dogs podcast. Please welcome superfan and friend of the show, Dewey Perry. Dewey, how are you? How are you? Welcome to the show. [01:11:05] Speaker D: Doing great, guys. How are you? Doing? [01:11:07] Speaker B: Good. Good. So, first and foremost, tell us a little bit about yourself and how you got started covering the Browns. [01:11:14] Speaker D: So, like most of us who root for, you know, this miserable franchise. I've just been a lifelong fan, border raised in Cleveland. I started, it was a birthday present to myself a couple years ago. I want to say, like, four or five years ago, I would just come home from work and, you know, everybody I worked with was Browns fans. So we'd get riled up at the lunch table, talk about stuff. I'd go home and just kind of unload all this random fun facts to my girlfriend or my ex girlfriend now. And she, at one point, after a couple of months, was just like, will you shut up? I will pay what's necessary for you to talk to people who give a crap. And I was like, well, so, like, literally 24 hours later, I was just like, I just made a Facebook page. And I was like, all right, I'll just info dump random stuff here. And it. I mean, it was rather vulgar and really unorganized. I started and it was just take a, you know, share a clip or article from somebody else and then write my little two cent. And for whatever reason, people, other Browns fans, decided that I was worth a, like or a comment or the inevitable, you know, telling me to ask myself. [01:12:29] Speaker A: So, yeah, it does feel like some of those best conversations happen over lunch. Right? Like, you don't see the camera crew and recording software is to just watch people's lunches because there's a lot of browns discussions. I feel like that happened during that time. [01:12:43] Speaker B: Absolutely. And usually with your friends, it's like the time that you're away from the, you know, the desk and you're able to kind of say what you want to say, so. Yeah, yeah, I totally get it. So you said you've been a Browns fan for life, and you kind of just started this thing as more or less a dumping ground for all of the fun or cruel times you've had with the browns. So I guess with this, with what you're building here, what's next for you? Where are you trying to go from here? Covering the browns? [01:13:19] Speaker D: I have no direction currently. I've just been blessed for people to keep liking and commenting just after stupid, stupid shares and posts, just kind of feeling around in the dark, hopefully. I have a love for broadcasting and podcast stuff like this. I've done a handful of smaller projects that just, I've helped build and then moved away from because I got burnt out on it. So, I don't know, maybe. Maybe someday I'll be as sophisticated as you guys and have a live stream or something. Who knows? I mean, now is the day and age where everybody, especially on the Internet, can have their two cent. So I obviously won't have a setup as luxurious as your guys. I am absolutely floored in how beautiful that setup is. All props to you, you guys. It's, it's. I love the, I love the Chubb jersey, by the way, so that would be good. [01:14:25] Speaker A: You're making me blush over here. [01:14:26] Speaker B: I know. Yeah. This is. Listen, we didn't bring you on just, just to gush over our studio, although we do appreciate it. We do. It was, it was a, you know, I'm sure, you know, being at least in the space and understanding what kind of work goes into this type of thing. Just, you know, we don't like to talk about it all that much, but it does take a lot of hard work to get to a point like this. But, no, I. We really love what you're doing. And even, even if you are feeling in the dark, you're feeling in the dark the right way because. [01:14:55] Speaker A: Nice following. [01:14:56] Speaker B: You got a nice following. People resonate with what you're saying, and I think it's entertaining. You still, you know, I still see you out there dropping, like you said, articles and giving your two cent and doing what you do. So I. I appreciate what you're bringing, and it's, it's one of those things. It's like not everybody wants to hear what the dudes on ESPN are saying. A lot of people just want to talk to another Browns fan or hear what another common Browns fan, another normal or superfan, in your, in your case, what they think about the team and what's going on at the current moment. [01:15:27] Speaker A: So those guys are disconnected. Right? I mean, I'd rather hear from people that have an emotional attachment to the team that I love. [01:15:33] Speaker B: Even the ESPN beat writer for the Browns, like, you think he spends all his time around the browns, so you probably don't even live here. [01:15:38] Speaker A: Only because paychecks coming from right now. [01:15:40] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:15:41] Speaker D: So I absolutely agree with that. I feel like anybody, anybody you can turn on your radio and kind of listen to has, they'll talk about kind of layups, just me. Not to make a baseball analogy, but just meatball topics. I've seen one earlier about, like, oh, the brown seven issue. I left tackle, like, okay, I appreciate your two cent here, but I have eyes. I can see that also. I didn't, I didn't need the expert analysis there to tell me, you know, things are already seen. But I think when you talk to actual fans and people who, the people who buy the tickets, not the people who get the press passes, and all that. The people who buy the tickets and spend the hard earned money give you a more from the heart, in depth analysis of things. And then there's always the, you know, the hot take artists that say something stupid and you're like, oh, this will be fun to make fun of you. [01:16:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:16:31] Speaker A: Hopefully we don't end up on the other side of that. [01:16:35] Speaker D: I've done a great job. Don't worry. [01:16:38] Speaker B: We, we might, we say some dumb things, but no. So let's talk about the browns a little bit. I mean, that's what we're all here for. So what do you think? You know, obviously two preseason games in and the entire offensive line is dead, but what do you think the Browns are going to do this season and how do you see them finishing up in the AFC north? [01:16:58] Speaker D: I'm, I'm actually worried, first off, with the, what is the HBO in season division thing? Because if, if this turns into a tire fire, I don't want to see it live. I don't want there to be record of, you know, us just watching it all go downhill. It's worrisome because, you know, 200, however many, $230 million later, we still are uncertain what's going to happen at the quarterback division or the quarterback position. Blacko's nothing here. It seems like all the production has come. I was a big Watson fan before the trade, when he was in hell, when he was in college, when he was drafted, obviously before all the off the field things. But when we traded for him, it might have been one of my happiest days as a fan, and since then it's been downhill. I would love to see him be healthy and at least for us to have a full whole rendering of what's going to happen with him moving forward, because still now we don't know if he'll get an extension, if he'll be healthy, if he'll be any part of what he should have been, what we all hoped for, or at least what Andrew Barry and the ownership, you know, the ownership group hoped for when they signed the check. So it's just, again, as a Browns fan, the most important position on the field is our currently most unstable, and everybody's not looking back and we remember how much we, how little we appreciated Joe Thomas's iron man ability. [01:18:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:18:37] Speaker A: Yeah. So, speaking to Deshaun, so do you have a best case scenario expectation for Deshaun? Obviously, there are a lot of good quarterbacks, not only in AFC across the league at this point. Do you have a best case scenario expectation for if things all go right, he could be a top ten, top 15 guy. [01:18:57] Speaker D: If all things go right. It's hard, especially in the AFC, because there's a lot of great talent, and even more so, there's a lot of great young talent. Thankfully, all the new contracts have made his average per year a bit different. Everybody thought it was the worst contract. Now, since then, what is it? Just about every other quarterback has gotten gotten paid, so it doesn't look as bad, but I'm hoping he turns out to be top eight in our division. I feel that, plus what Schwartz has been able to do with this defense, completely reinvigorating the intensity and the sheer. The fear factor you get on offense going against. You know what? I'll just say the best defense, because that's what it is we have. [01:19:50] Speaker B: You know, statistically, you're not wrong. [01:19:52] Speaker D: So as much as Steelers fans are going to cry in their bullets, here he was about that, you know, the defensive player of the year. That's right. Suck it, Watt. I love you. But not, not enough. It's the best defense, a healthy chub, great defense, at least average special teams. We have a kicker, guys. We don't have to play that game no more. And so Watson just has to essentially go out there and be game manager. But hopefully he's able to find himself at least a little bit and he's able to, you know, show 70% of what he was. Because if you give me game manager with the upside that Watson could have, it's a scary team all around. And it's not just, hey, Watson, go out and save us. It's all right. We have everything built around you perfectly, Watson. Just don't screw it up and give us a couple, you know, a couple magical plays here and there. You can be looking at easily a deep playoff run with everything going right. The nicest thing is, even in the down periods, Stefanski has been able to win with just about anybody at quarterback. Remember, we won a game with PJ Walker last year, a guy. [01:21:03] Speaker B: That's true. [01:21:03] Speaker D: The human turnover, who might end up being a fifth grade match math teacher here in a year or two. [01:21:08] Speaker B: So, yeah, we literally referred to him as the human turnover. So, no, I will say this. So, like, your, your take on Deshaun Watson is. I like the way that you even just approach talking about it because it's kind of where I'm at, and it's so you get one side or the other. When it comes to Deshaun Watson, most of the time, like, you either get, we hate him or I. We love him. And those. Those sides will really defend that to the end. There's not a lot of people that are in the middle, and I like that you're just kind of taking it with, like, I want him to be good, but so far, he hasn't shown us what's good, and I respect the fact that somebody that can be objective about it and just say, I'm just going by what he's shown us so far. Forget all the other stuff. What he's shown us so far is that he probably wasn't worth that $230 million, but we still have him under contract, so hopefully he can get better and continue to, and maybe in the end, if we make a run somewhere, it will be worth it. [01:22:09] Speaker A: And I think you're spot on with the rest of the team. Right. And that's what's so frustrating, I think, is just about not knowing about Deshawn is, you know, obviously you've been through all the down years, right? You know, we've been that dumpster fire for a long time where just everything was bad, and it feels like for the first time, like, we're not waiting for that first round pick or this guy to come save us. Like, you have a team that is capable of winning a lot of games in this league. The only thing you're unsure about is, do we have a quarterback that could just be average? [01:22:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:22:41] Speaker D: The crazy thing, especially last season, is we went into last season same thing. Hopefully, Watson can step up and show us at least what he can be at a max. I don't think he'll ever be what he should have been when he was drafted or even with his time with the Texans. We went. There was a time last season, which I don't. I don't like the fact that I'll have to admit this now on air, that I said that I love Joe Flacco. And there was, like, 15 years of my life, which is about half of my damn life, where I swore up and down I would drop kick him. Now I'm a. I'm a 300 plus pound man. I promised Jesus himself I would dropkick that Mandev if I ever met him. And now I said publicly that had he got us to a Super Bowl, I would have had his face tattooed on my rear end. So, you know, things happen fast. Life happens a lot fast during the season. [01:23:38] Speaker B: That's real love. [01:23:40] Speaker D: Yeah. And the crazy thing about that is just. It's not that he played great. He was just a spark plug, and with him, you know, getting off the couch and jumping into the game, we were still able to be exciting and make a playoff run. So we look at it, we don't need spectacular quarterback. If we're going to be honest, if we're all playing Madden, which I know football is not Madden, if we look at it and we're like, oh, he had, you know, Watson has played, what, twelve games over two years. It was a lot of wasted money. We would be trying to offload that contract in Madden. We'd be like, let's find a tie rod or somebody to get us through till we find somebody else. But this is real money and we can't just offload it. So we're hoping, I think as a Browns fan, you just have to hope the guy who's wearing our jersey, the guy whoever suits up in orange and brown at least goes out there and looks comparable to everybody else in the league. And I think he has a great athletic ability. He's obviously shown the ability to play the quarterback position in the NFL. He's capable of doing, you know, that he's a leader. Remember, Dabo called him Michael Jordan of the football field. So can we, can we at least get great value version of what he should have been? I really hope so. [01:25:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:25:06] Speaker A: But how fun was that stretch? There was Joe Flacco. [01:25:09] Speaker B: You talk about being, you know, embarrassed that you're admitting that on, on air right now, but just go back and watch some of our, watch some of our episodes from last season and some of those segments where you talked about Joe Flacco. Oh, my gosh. Is like the. I agree with you. As much as I hated him when he was on the Ravens, I loved him so much when he played for the Cleveland Browns. [01:25:29] Speaker A: I ruined so many Sundays of my life. [01:25:31] Speaker B: Yeah, but, but last year was just in its entirety. Just the odds that were stacked against the Browns coming down the stretch and the fact that, that Joe Flacco and Kevin Stefan Zovanski, I'll give him his props to those two men held that team together like they did and just made magic happen week after week after week. And Jim Schwartz, I'll give it to Jim Schwartz, too. So those, those three guys just, I mean, it was literally magical. [01:26:00] Speaker A: So hopefully a lot of that this. [01:26:03] Speaker D: Year, Jim Schwartz put on a masterclass of what you do defensively, at least for the next couple of years. Much like with the legion of boom and all great defense of things, people catch up. The, the ability of a great coach is the, is to add ancillary and wrinkles into it. So you stay above, you know, stay. Stay above the curve, which Jim is easily, what, top five defensive coordinators in the league, and he has been for a long time. So obviously he's able to do it. The funniest thing I can say about the Flacco run, which it's still weird to think, like, oh, it's the Flacco error, but it was like eight weeks. [01:26:42] Speaker B: Listen, real quick, Dewey. [01:26:43] Speaker A: We. [01:26:43] Speaker B: We refer to this timeframe as the legend of Cleveland Brown's quarterback, Joe Flacco. So. [01:26:52] Speaker D: If he win, he makes. He will only make the NFL hall of Fame because of his time here in Cleveland. I will say that right now. Nothing else before it matters. It's okay. It's just like if you marry stripper. Nothing else before it happened. None of it matters. You're here where you belong. That is the only jersey I care about. Even if it's a small patch on his bus that says Cleveland. I'm perfectly fine with it. But that time, remember, he just did the easiest thing. He was, screw it. We're just gonna throw the long ball, run the ball where we can. And hey, this guy named Najoku is pretty damn good at this thing we call football. And Amari Cooper, who knew this guy was great, he'll just go for 300 yards, completely carry the path game, gets screwed over by a ref by being out of bounds, quote unquote, ten yards, not even close to the boundary. He just did the simple stuff. Hey, we got a good receiver. Throw him the ball. Great tight end. Throw him the ball. That's my only issue is always with Stefanski. He might try to outthink himself. And that was a nice thing with Flacco, is Flacco was just like, screw that. We're just going to throw the ball to the big, athletic tight end and the great wide receiver outside. Could you imagine that run had Nick Chubb been healthy? It would. We would. We would still be selling. Cleveland downtown would still be on fire from that Super bowl run. [01:28:15] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. So shifting gears here just a little bit. Well, I guess I don't think you ever told us, where do you think the Browns are going to finish in the AFC north? [01:28:26] Speaker A: Your record prediction. [01:28:27] Speaker D: See, this is. This is perfectly. I just rant too much. [01:28:31] Speaker B: We do too. It's okay. [01:28:32] Speaker D: Record prediction. We're gonna get to the thing where it all depends on, do we have a healthy Watson? You know what positive energy Watson will play? I don't know. 15 of the 17 games will go, hell yes. [01:28:49] Speaker A: Twelve and five manifest it manifested right here. [01:28:52] Speaker B: Twelve and I like it. Twelve and five. That's strong. That's strong. Do we win the division or what? How do we finish? [01:28:59] Speaker D: I think we'll, we'll have a very late. Who do we play last, last game? Is it the Ravens last. I think week 18 or something, but it will come down. I think the time is TBD. It will come down to one of them great face offs where it's winner takes the division. Week 18, like since it was, since we're putting positivity out of there. Out there. Might as well just make it that it'll be us and Ravens, winner takes division and winner might take division and here, screw it. We'll throw caution to the win. Winner takes division and we'll definitely, will definitely represent the division in AFC championship. [01:29:41] Speaker A: Oh, I like that. That'll get, that'll be a flex game in the prime time, too. Rounds. [01:29:47] Speaker B: Yeah. To answer your question, a little bit more coming down the stretch. Week 14 at pick Pittsburgh week 15 or week 14 at Pittsburgh, week 16 at Cincinnati and week 18 at Baltimore. [01:30:00] Speaker D: Yeah, we're going to go into. We're going to go into week 18 with a must win against the Ravens for the division. [01:30:07] Speaker B: Nice. I like, I think I'm excited about football. [01:30:10] Speaker A: I think twelve's a strong number. Just because the AC north is going to be competitive, I have a hard time believing there's going to be an asin or team that wins 13 games. [01:30:16] Speaker B: Yeah, I would agree with that. So now shifting gears, now that we know who you think is going to win the division here, it's the big talk. It's what everybody's been talking about around Cleveland as far as the team goes. We'll just ask it out front. Dome or lakefront? [01:30:34] Speaker D: The issue is at heart, I know everybody, everybody would love to see the Browns stay on the lakefront. It is for everybody who's not a Browns fan will talk all the crap that they want and be like, oh, it's a mediocre franchise or whatever. It might be the most scenic view in all of Cleveland sports to just look out for, you know, well, it might just be beer goggles, but look out from the Muni lot and see that beautiful, rather Madden generic stadium just plastered silhouette across the lake. But it might be my favorite view to be absolutely swasted and look at that and look at that stadium and be like, that is us. That is Cleveland Browns is on the lakefront. Do I think it will stay there? No, I don't think there's a chance in hell, just because the political city stuff, I don't think the city itself wants it there anymore. They offer just enough to go back to the residents or Browns fans would be like, well, we tried, but I think we'll have a dome in Brook park. As a Brook park resident, I am absolutely fine with that. [01:31:48] Speaker B: Makes it a little bit easier to swallow, huh? [01:31:50] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. Listen, it's. I'm a fan of the newer business model. Like, you've seen many teams like New England, and obviously the Cowboys and even Green Bay do, where they build the stadium, and then they buy up all the land around it. And the ownership group, that's how you can tell an ownership is now invested in the current and long term future of the team, is because they're buying up stuff, adding restaurants and hotels and trying to get a Super bowl there. They're now ingrained, ideally, into the culture of the city, the team, the fans, the people who love it. And I look forward to it. For everybody who talks what they want about the Haslams, if it happens and they build Brown's Disneyland out in Brook park, that will be their. That will be their staying point of, this is our franchise. We're not going nowhere. The team isn't, you know, going to be uprooted. If the furthest my team moves is the Brook park, I'm fine with that. I don't even have to catch the rapid at 05:00 a.m. in the morning to get wasted. [01:32:57] Speaker B: Yeah. And I like what you said about developing the whole area, because I think one thing that a lot of Clevelanders and just northeast Ohioans in general don't understand is, is the city right now, to your point, is saying this is just enough to make it look like we tried and they're trying to paint the Haslams as unreasonable or that they don't want to work with the city or they're working against the city. But I think what's lost in all this is, regardless if it's in Brook park, with revenue sharing and everything else going into this, it's a huge investment in the entire region. And you've seen even, even bar owners downtown. I just saw this past week a whole group of bar owners downtown, they started taking pictures, preseason week. They took pictures all the way up until the end of the first quarter, and they said, look, it's log jammed down here. We can't even get patrons into our bars unless they're walking. It would. In which case, like, especially towards the end of the season, like, who wants to park and walk over here. Here. So, you know, a lot of the bar owners and restaurant owners in downtown Cleveland are even saying, if they go to Brook park, it's close enough that everybody's still coming downtown before the games and hanging out and doing things. Maybe not everybody, but still a good portion of them. And then you have the people that aren't going to actually go to the game, that are going to sit at a restaurant or a bar and watch the game, and that's where they come in. And those are filled instead of there being traffic and nobody's able to get in there because everybody's trying to get to the game. So there's this big contingent of restaurant owners and bar owners that are finally coming out and saying, look, Brooke park makes sense. Make it happen. And to your point, they all say the same thing. They say, we would love to keep them downtown, but it makes the most sense to move them out of downtown. [01:34:45] Speaker A: And two things real quick. So I love that we're talking about Brook park. We just launched our Brook Park Browns merchandise today. [01:34:52] Speaker B: Yes. [01:34:53] Speaker A: We have shirts and hats, things. [01:34:55] Speaker B: Brook park football established 2029. [01:34:57] Speaker A: Brooke park is. Brooke park. Um, and I actually love what you said about the view, because this was kind of my. The view of, you know, it is classic, right? If one any footballs in town and they're outside and they take the shots of the stadium, it's on a lake. It's just like, it makes Cleveland look, like, almost nicer than it is. You know? Like, it's like, not that it's not nice. We love Cleveland, but people that aren't in Cleveland have this perception of Cleveland, and it's kind of adds this whole dynamic of, like, oh, Cleveland is a good place to live. It's cool. It's nice with this lake. It's great. And I've always been less hung up on this, like, yeah, you're gonna have this cool dome, but, like. Like, what's Monday football gonna drone, fly over and see? Because it's just gonna be brook bark around this giant stadium, you know? [01:35:42] Speaker B: I mean, they'll probably do what they do for, like, the cowboys. They'll still fly over Cleveland, and then they'll come over and just get the stadium. [01:35:48] Speaker A: Fair enough. [01:35:49] Speaker B: So it is what it is. No, but I. We really appreciate your take on that. I think we're all kind of in this, in the same line of thinking when it comes to the stadium. I mean, as ideal as it would be to keep it on a lakefront, it just doesn't make that much sense. And we all like shiny new things and that's what the. The dome is going to be. And, and I think we're all excited about it. [01:36:09] Speaker A: It'll be nice to go to a game in a sweater and not have to bundle up with three blankets. And yeah, that was gonna be. [01:36:15] Speaker D: My only other point was gonna be for everybody who goes or who goes downtown and complains that it's cold or that, you know, I don't want to wear a jacket or, you know, I don't. I don't want to take my kids, you know, when, when the season matters. Because, yes, there's 3ft of snow. We understand. We know we've been here forever. You're holding on to, well, part of the elements before. Just a fancy era. Guess what, guys? We suck in the elements. [01:36:40] Speaker A: Exactly. [01:36:41] Speaker D: So why not build Disneyland, you know, via Browns and completely, you know, make a stadium that is made for the fans, not. The NFL didn't rush and make a generic Lego brick by brick Stadium on a lakefront. It's going to be something beautiful. I don't expect it to be as good as the, like the video that they posted, but even halfway would be nice. You'll actually get, you know, you can take your family and have wi fi access and not hate your experience because you love a team. And for everybody who forgets how important money is to a city to help things around it, there was this guy from Akron who came back, his name was LeBron, and he's been the great. He was the greatest stimulus for the city of Cleveland downtown. Can you imagine what a successful playoff, perennial playoff team Browns would be for the city of Brook Park, Parma, everything around it. Things would. It would be like the roman dynasty, the roman empire. Empire. Just, you know, in Ohio, which I mean, but it would be beautiful. And this is also coming for me, who lives here. So it is what? [01:37:57] Speaker B: Fair. [01:37:57] Speaker A: I love the idea that the Brown stadium is mad. Generic stadium. [01:38:01] Speaker B: You know, it's funny, I had never, ever thought to describe it that way, but that's exactly what it is. It's like you go through generic stadium, three generic stadium. Stadium for like, that's. That's what it is. [01:38:14] Speaker D: Yes, because remember, the NFL rushed to build the stadium before we technically ever got the team back. They were just like, we know it's going to Cleveland. Quick, let's get it up. And it's been just kind of, you know, Lincoln logs ever since. Every year, you know, they're talking about, oh, we need 100 million to fix this and fix that. How about we just build it. [01:38:33] Speaker B: Right, right. [01:38:35] Speaker A: Agreed. [01:38:35] Speaker B: Right. And with that, you know, we all could rant all day long about everything Cleveland Browns, but we are going to wrap this up. Listen, Dewey, it's been an absolute pleasure having you on. We really appreciate all the support you've shown us thus far. And good luck with everything that you're doing. I know you're going through some potential rebranding. You're going to be looking into new ventures yourself. So definitely good luck with all that. You know, we'll be following along. But, yeah, it's been a pleasure having you on the show. We really appreciate it. [01:39:05] Speaker A: We'll do it again soon. [01:39:06] Speaker B: Absolutely. [01:39:07] Speaker D: Absolutely. Guys, I appreciate your time. This is Dewey Perry with the cardiac dogs podcast. You're listening to burning river sportscast. Go, brown. [01:39:30] Speaker B: Hey, good talking to, Dewey Hudson. It's nice to see some of these just, just people that are big fans that want to kind of take it to the next level and really continue to promote the Browns and also build a brand for themselves. [01:39:42] Speaker A: First off, the dude's name is Dewey, which I love. [01:39:45] Speaker B: Yeah, that's true. [01:39:46] Speaker A: Strong name. [01:39:47] Speaker B: Strong. [01:39:47] Speaker A: But, yeah, he's built himself a really nice following. Dewey Cox on social media. [01:39:51] Speaker B: That's the only other Dewey I could think of. Both strong names. [01:39:54] Speaker A: I mean, just a funny guy, right? I mean, you can tell by talking to him. Like, that's the personality that people like that. That's why they read his stuff. Like, that's why they follow. [01:40:03] Speaker B: Right? I mean, yeah, he just gets the fans. [01:40:06] Speaker A: It's passionate about the game and the team, and he's a funny dude. [01:40:11] Speaker B: What a lucky sob. That lives in Brook park, huh? [01:40:13] Speaker A: Yeah, he's going to be Burt park. He's burp Park. [01:40:15] Speaker B: I would be like, that would be my hangout. I just be down by the stadium all the time. [01:40:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:40:19] Speaker B: Wow. [01:40:19] Speaker A: Well, if you don't want to go to the stadium, there's some really skeevy clubs in the other direction. [01:40:24] Speaker B: I'll leave those to you, but that'll take us to gas stuff and Captain Taco. [01:40:30] Speaker A: Oh, God. Have you been to Captain Taco? [01:40:31] Speaker B: No. [01:40:32] Speaker A: You ever been to Kentucky? [01:40:34] Speaker C: No. [01:40:35] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Best taco restaurant in the country, probably. Oh, just right on Brook Park Road to go get off, like, Tinaman or West 150. [01:40:49] Speaker B: I feel like we're wasting a lot of time. [01:40:51] Speaker A: This is gonna be in a show people need about Captain Taco. Head down towards, like, the car dealerships down. Okay. Like, you're going down to the rapid or wherever. Yeah, Captain Taco. It's a hole in the wall joint, like. And you'll have diarrhea for days, but it will be 100% worth it. [01:41:05] Speaker B: Captain Taco. And that'll take us to gassed up. [01:41:11] Speaker A: What are we guessed up about this week? [01:41:13] Speaker B: All right, so let's remind everybody, this is a segment where we like to vent about what's pissing us off in the world, or it could be something we're excited about. It's just something we want to talk about that's getting us gassed up. Who are we going to start with? Who started last week? [01:41:24] Speaker A: Well, me and you started the last two weeks because Bone wasn't here. [01:41:26] Speaker B: Bone? [01:41:27] Speaker C: Heck, I can go. [01:41:28] Speaker B: Yeah, Bone, what are you gassed up about? [01:41:29] Speaker C: You know what, school started last week, and I was out of town for a little bit of it, but one of the days I got the girls off the bus, and I have a first grader and fourth grader, they send these chromebooks with the kids, and they don't keep them at school anymore. They have to bring them back and forth, just be. Just in case there's a Covid thing again, I guess. So they have their tablets with them or their chromebooks or whatever, but they come with these carrying cases and cords and blah, blah, blah. And they weigh like ten pounds. My first grader is like 40 pounds. She's carrying around a backpack that weighs ten pounds with this chromebook in it. Plus, you know, some other stuff, maybe a water bottle, whatever it is, it's literally a fourth of her weight. You know, she gets off the bus and she's immediately like, dad, can you carry this backpack for me? And I'm like, no, you know, you need to carry your own backpack. But then I started thinking about. I'm like, this is literally 25% of her weight right here. Their schools are just making these kids just haul this stuff back and forth. [01:42:21] Speaker A: It'd be like, yes, sandbags back. [01:42:23] Speaker C: It's just annoying. Just keep it at school. [01:42:24] Speaker B: I've got a theory. [01:42:26] Speaker C: Make the kids plug it in in the back of the classroom and keep the chromebook at school. Especially for 1st, 2nd, 3rd graders. [01:42:32] Speaker A: Even in the event of COVID again or something weird like that. Like a parent couldn't go to the school, get your kids chromebook, right? [01:42:37] Speaker C: They copped. They copped out. They use it as an excuse to put it on the. [01:42:41] Speaker B: I've got a theory. This is how the school system, whatever school system you're a part of. This is how they're fighting childhood obesity. [01:42:49] Speaker A: Maybe they did away with gym class. [01:42:54] Speaker B: We're gonna make you carry these heavy book bags, burn off all the calories that you're eating. [01:42:57] Speaker A: I think it's funny that we've reached the point where the kids have chromebooks now. [01:43:01] Speaker B: Everybody does. [01:43:02] Speaker A: Like, we didn't. Like, that wasn't. [01:43:03] Speaker B: We grew up. We were in an era where not all schools had computers. [01:43:08] Speaker A: Like, if you brought a laptop to school as a kid, they would be like, put that away. You can't. [01:43:13] Speaker B: That's not a learning tool. [01:43:14] Speaker A: It wasn't until, like, we got to college that you started to get, like, a laptop. But, like, high school, they would have been like, get away, you know? [01:43:20] Speaker C: Yeah, never. [01:43:21] Speaker A: It's just the whole. The Internet now just teaches our kids. [01:43:24] Speaker C: They used to have, like, chromebook carts. The future, like, schools would have Chromebook carts, and you would. In class, you would go get one and you plug it back in. There's a whole cart full of them. Your school, this was in a different. [01:43:35] Speaker B: I never heard of a school. [01:43:38] Speaker C: I sub taught for a year and a half. It's after college. And this is like, what they. [01:43:43] Speaker B: I thought you were talking about growing up. I was like, where the hell did you go to school? How did you class? What the hell? [01:43:50] Speaker A: Where was the Chromebook? [01:43:52] Speaker B: When we were in school, it was. [01:43:53] Speaker A: In the Chromebook class. We weren't allowed in that way. [01:43:56] Speaker C: We had the original max in our library with the colored background. [01:44:00] Speaker B: So that was how, you know, your school had made it. [01:44:02] Speaker A: That's right. [01:44:03] Speaker C: We carried a floppy disk with us. [01:44:04] Speaker A: To save our work. [01:44:05] Speaker B: That's what I learned. You're speaking gibberish to these. These younger kids. A floppy disk? What the hell is that? [01:44:11] Speaker A: That's where I learned that movie. [01:44:12] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember Miss Lundgren's class? And she would just. We would just go roam the halls and make the craziest movies. I think we lost it. [01:44:22] Speaker A: It was a time. Yeah, but now the kids just live on these tablets, you know? It's like, that's life, Kenny. [01:44:28] Speaker B: What's getting you guys? [01:44:29] Speaker A: Do they hit this also, like, other books or just like, everything loaded into the Chromebook? Ebooks and stuff? [01:44:35] Speaker C: No, there's. There's text. They do a lot of print off, so we get tons of paper. [01:44:39] Speaker B: Efficient way to do textbooks. [01:44:41] Speaker A: They have a ten pound book bag. They also have to carry some textbooks. Sure. [01:44:45] Speaker C: Yes. [01:44:45] Speaker B: I think they should put all of. [01:44:47] Speaker A: The ten pound book bag by the time it's heavy. [01:44:50] Speaker C: I mean, I was surprised if the. [01:44:51] Speaker B: School is getting chromebooks. I think they should be, like, recognized, required to just put a digital copy of the textbooks on them. [01:44:59] Speaker A: Makes. [01:45:00] Speaker B: That makes sense, right? [01:45:01] Speaker A: All your worksheets and everything. [01:45:02] Speaker B: The only thing I will say is I'm actually a big proponent of not to use ebooks because there's a lot of studies that are done on how much better you commit it to memory if you're reading it off of a page for whatever reason. [01:45:12] Speaker A: That's. That's true. I've seen the same thing. [01:45:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:45:15] Speaker A: My dad was always a fan of that. He's like, I want. [01:45:17] Speaker B: I just. I'm a big reader in my free time, which I don't have much of now because now I run burning over sportscasts, but in Tabith media. But when I do have free time, I like to read, and I always have to have a hard copy of the book. I can't do e readers. [01:45:32] Speaker A: Well. Cause so much of, like, what we consume digitally is like, transient. Right. You're not, like, super paying attention. You're reading it, but you're not, like, committing it to memory. It's just like, you reach. You need to see it or whatever. So it makes sense. [01:45:45] Speaker B: Yeah. Anyways, Kenny, what's getting you guessed up? [01:45:48] Speaker A: Gassed up? I gotta tell you guys. October 12. Get me gassed up. [01:45:56] Speaker B: October 12. [01:45:57] Speaker A: So for those that aren't aware. [01:46:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:46:01] Speaker A: October 12. This is said to be essentially like the holy day of college football this year. Matchups between Ohio State and Oregon, Ole Miss at LSU, Penn State at USC, Florida, Kentucky, or, sorry, Florida, Tennessee, Kansas State, Colorado, and Texas at Oklahoma. Oh, well, what this has led to is the inevitable conversation about people having weddings in the fall. And I just happened to catch a bit on local radio, and these guys were acting like a fall wedding was like the biggest hurdle to their lives. Like, how dare anyone have a fall wedding? Look, I had. I had a fall wedding, so maybe I'm overly sweet to this. 2018. It was the same night as the Ohio State Penn State game. Do either of you remember who won that game? [01:46:53] Speaker C: No. [01:46:54] Speaker B: 2018, I think Penn State, probably Penn. [01:46:57] Speaker A: State House, day one. [01:46:59] Speaker B: Oh, see, we didn't. [01:47:01] Speaker A: Does anybody remember how high they finished that year in 2018? [01:47:04] Speaker B: 2018. They were. [01:47:05] Speaker C: They. [01:47:07] Speaker A: Didn'T make the call. Playoff. You remember what bowl game they played in? [01:47:12] Speaker B: No. Cause as soon as they don't make. [01:47:13] Speaker C: College playoffs, they played Clemson and beat him. [01:47:16] Speaker A: They beat Washington in the Rose bowl. So on all counts, like, and we're. [01:47:21] Speaker B: Pretty big Ohio State fans. [01:47:22] Speaker A: On all counts, like, that game against Penn State in a meaning of life didn't mean anything, meant so little. And like, we had a bar at our wedding and people were, like, checking in, and I was a little annoyed, like, people, but I understood, like, people want check it. But it was people that hung out in the bar all night that annoyed me. You want to check in, check the score here and now. But it's like, I don't know what we. [01:47:42] Speaker D: What do we pay? [01:47:42] Speaker A: Like, $80 a couple for your food for the night, and you guys are hanging out in a bar all night, like, plus your alcohol and stuff. Like, you. If it is too much to ask of you to come support someone that. [01:47:54] Speaker B: You love or a family member on. [01:47:57] Speaker A: The day that they make the biggest decision, the biggest commitment of their entire lives, because. Because you want to watch it. Like, you can keep your $40 in your envelope that you were going to give me because I paid 80 for you to come and just stay home. Like, I just. It just rubbed me the wrong way that, like, we're even equating, like, the equivalency of a football game and a marriage on the same level. Like, maybe that's why over half of marriage is in a divorce, because we think of them at the same as ohio state. [01:48:26] Speaker B: Less than. Same as a yemenite marriage, less than you guys. [01:48:28] Speaker A: Like, are you. [01:48:29] Speaker B: Yeah, the marriage is less than. [01:48:30] Speaker A: Get off your high horse about this. Like, you, when you're planning your wedding, the last thing you're thinking about is, like, what's the football schedule? And, like, look, I love the Browns, and I live Ohio State. And when Ohio State wins that championship, it's great. And I celebrate. It's like the coolest thing ever. But, like, we're talking about marriage, like a lifelong commitment to another individual. That is the most important decision you ever make, and you're there supporting them because you're a close family member or friend, someone that loves this couple, and you're going to sit there and talk about how inconvenienced you are to have to do that. Like, you're just a shit human being. Like, really, a real shit human. And these are guys that are on the radio every day, local in Cleveland. [01:49:13] Speaker B: You guys are piece of crap. [01:49:14] Speaker A: If you were equivalent marriage to a football game, I'll say it one more time. You were a real shit. Being really rubbish. [01:49:27] Speaker B: I've actually heard this conversation quite a bit lately, too, and I'm like, like, everybody post a thing. Like, just remember, the Browns are about to start, so don't. When you're thinking about booking any funerals, like, they literally list everything. [01:49:38] Speaker A: It's like, seriously, like, you know, I. [01:49:42] Speaker B: I hate to life in general like, I hate to break every burst, everyone's bubble, but life in general, like, your family, your friends, far more important than the Cleveland Browns will ever be. I love the Browns. I'm a diehard Browns fan, but if I had to choose between my wife and the Browns, between you guys and the Browns, it's always gonna be not the Browns. [01:50:00] Speaker A: So I feel like. So I feel like it's just, like, you can. I hate to dvr a Browns game, right? Cause you always kind of hear it always gets ruined. Always gets ruined. But, like, you can. You can't DVR our marriage. [01:50:12] Speaker B: No. [01:50:13] Speaker A: Like, the things that we remember from that day aren't the score of the game or what the Buckeyes did that season. We remember, like, you puking at my reception and my other group has been puking. [01:50:26] Speaker B: I was gonna say, I don't. [01:50:27] Speaker A: I don't remember that too good of a damn time. [01:50:29] Speaker B: I don't remember much of your wedding. I was wobbling in the actual, like, when you guys were having the ceremony. [01:50:36] Speaker A: But, like, those are the memories you hold on to, right? Like, that was. It was a blast. [01:50:41] Speaker B: Did you guys get your. Your wedding video, too, or is it just. Just pictures? [01:50:44] Speaker A: No, we. And this is a good thing. [01:50:46] Speaker B: There's no video because I was standing behind you. Just, like, the one thing I kind. [01:50:50] Speaker A: Of regret is we did. [01:50:51] Speaker B: Me and Carl, our other buddy Carl, both. We were just wobbling behind you, so. [01:50:55] Speaker A: But anyway, that's my point. [01:50:57] Speaker C: Lou went down. [01:50:58] Speaker A: Big Lou Dick was like, those memories of the. Like, that was. What was that? And that was all about. [01:51:03] Speaker B: Do you think it's okay to tell Big Lou story? Just wrote, nobody knows who that is. So, Big Lou, after your wedding, when they got back to his house, his wife told us a story about how he just got out of the truck and just started stripping his clothes. He's just, like, throwing clothes all over the lawn. And by the time he got inside, there's a pile of puke and clothes all over the lawn, and he's just inside passed out. [01:51:25] Speaker A: I mean, we almost couldn't take pictures after the ceremony. Cause you guys were all so stupid drunk. [01:51:30] Speaker B: Oh, man. I almost wrecked a golf cart. [01:51:31] Speaker A: Yeah, they weren't gonna let us take the golf course. Cause you guys were all inebriated, and. [01:51:34] Speaker B: I insisted that I drove because what's the worst that could happen? [01:51:39] Speaker A: You know, you just spilled beer all over the bridesmaid and yourself. It was fine. [01:51:42] Speaker B: Eh, she was. Anyway, she enjoyed it. [01:51:45] Speaker A: October 12, this got me gassed up. [01:51:47] Speaker B: That's a good thing. [01:51:48] Speaker A: To be a superb day of college football. [01:51:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:51:50] Speaker A: Don't plan your wedding for that day. [01:51:52] Speaker B: All right? And so what's getting me gassed up is time. There's never enough of it. I kind of alluded to it earlier, but we're running this podcast. We're running tapping media. You know, we have our own family lives, everything else going on, and there's just never enough time. And I know we've talked about it, and we're. We're team no sleep. So it doesn't, you know, we have more time than most, but even still, you always run out of it. You always run out of it, and there's never enough. And it just pisses me off. Cause it's always, like, literally everything I'm doing, it feels like all day long, nonstop. I'm like, if I just have five more minutes to work on this one thing, it'd be done. But I don't. So I just move on to the next thing, and everything's never done. [01:52:27] Speaker A: Never. There's never enough. [01:52:28] Speaker B: Never done. [01:52:29] Speaker A: You know what's really a bitch? [01:52:31] Speaker B: Most of it doesn't matter. Like, family stuff does. But I'm saying, like. Like, my work stuff, even stuff with that. Like, honestly, in the grand scheme of things, it's probably not gonna matter. [01:52:38] Speaker A: Like, time doesn't even really exist, though. Like, if you go faster. [01:52:40] Speaker B: Time is a social construct. [01:52:42] Speaker A: Like, it's just our way to measure, like, yeah, event happening to another event. But, like, in the universe, time really doesn't even one thing. [01:52:50] Speaker B: Theory of relativity. You know, you could actually prove that because if, like, say, you had a watch, like me, and you timed our watches the same. [01:52:57] Speaker A: Or an airplane. Yeah. [01:52:58] Speaker B: Like, we timed them up, and then I went in an airplane and just. [01:53:00] Speaker A: Went around the earth differently, and you. [01:53:02] Speaker B: Stay here, they go different. [01:53:03] Speaker A: Does that mean time doesn't even exist? [01:53:05] Speaker B: It doesn't exist. [01:53:06] Speaker A: Just a social construct, man, fuck time. [01:53:09] Speaker B: And that's what I'm gassed up about because then it spits me into conversations like this and thoughts like this where I just don't even know what the hell is going on. [01:53:15] Speaker A: And that's when we need bone. Because we don't know what christians do. [01:53:18] Speaker B: We don't know what christians do. But anyways, let me remind you to call the burger sportscast hot take out. Don't even call. Leave your hot takes on the hot take out line. Remember, these are hot takes. We want hot takes. We want hot takes. We want hot takes. 302-27-8080 I drive a dodge stratus 3302-2780-8033-0227-8080-3302-2788 call now. Operators are not standing by. No, not one. And be sure to check out our gear. Www.thetappitmedia.com shop so much new gear. [01:53:49] Speaker A: River gear. [01:53:50] Speaker B: Get it off. Buy it all. Buy it. Buy it. Buy it. [01:53:54] Speaker A: Brooke park. [01:53:54] Speaker B: Buy it. [01:53:55] Speaker A: Brooke Park Brown's gear. [01:53:56] Speaker B: Yeah. And that'll do it for us. What can we expect next week, Kenny? [01:54:00] Speaker A: Next week? Is it already? Here is our season preview show. [01:54:03] Speaker B: It's next week. [01:54:04] Speaker A: So we are going to be on site at topath distillery with John Hughes, Frank Stamps, Bridgie Linton having a kick ass time. This party is going to be so fucking lit you're going to wish you were there if you weren't. So get your tickets, hide your wife's, hide your kids. Everybody's getting drunk. Uh, and then we'll talk about basically our predictions and our projections for what this Brown season is going to look like. Uh, and I will just get totally obliterated. [01:54:26] Speaker B: Absolutely. And check us out on social media. Tapping media is on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram, at the Tappin Media and Burning river sportscast, that's. This podcast is on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and YouTube. At burning over Sportscast and on Xerningoverpod. You can find us wherever you get your podcast. I'm talking app, podcast, Spotify, YouTube, music, Amazon music, Stitcher, Pandora, iHeartRadio, podcast, Castro. Good pods and so many more. Do you know that? Texas two K. [01:54:49] Speaker A: For days. [01:55:02] Speaker B: What do you got for us? [01:55:04] Speaker A: Just a couple of quick facts. [01:55:06] Speaker B: Let's hear them. [01:55:06] Speaker A: I drive a dodge, Stratus. Oh, I don't. [01:55:09] Speaker B: You're so established. [01:55:10] Speaker C: Not. [01:55:11] Speaker A: But here's, here's the fact for you, one in 18 people, it's pretty significant number. [01:55:16] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:55:17] Speaker A: That's a lot experienced. Something called polythelia. [01:55:21] Speaker B: What is that? [01:55:22] Speaker A: Which, if you're not sure, means you have a third nipple. [01:55:27] Speaker B: Oh, wow. Nice. [01:55:29] Speaker A: And many of these nipples are like quite vestigial. They don't like work real good or they're like. Some of them are invisible on top of your skin, under your skin. Others are fully working mammary gland that you could. [01:55:41] Speaker B: Is that what you have? [01:55:42] Speaker A: Milk off? [01:55:44] Speaker B: You got nipples? Can we milk you? [01:55:46] Speaker A: You got nipples, Greg? Can we milk you? So I just thought that was. That was a pretty, like. There's a lot of people that have a third nipple. [01:55:52] Speaker B: That's a lot. [01:55:53] Speaker A: Yeah. So check your nipples because you may not even know. You may. You may be polytheliac. And you don't even know. [01:55:59] Speaker B: Check your nipples. Check your wives. [01:56:01] Speaker A: Let me do man is just a crazy thing that happened into this world. [01:56:08] Speaker B: What is man? Yeah. [01:56:10] Speaker A: Humankind. [01:56:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Fair. [01:56:11] Speaker A: We're getting pretty good at, like, Punnett squares. [01:56:14] Speaker B: Those are good. [01:56:15] Speaker A: Gregor Mendel. [01:56:16] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:56:17] Speaker A: You know, mixing things like broccoli, you know. [01:56:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:56:21] Speaker A: That didn't exist. [01:56:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:56:24] Speaker A: There exists a cow bison hybrid. [01:56:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay. Yeah. [01:56:30] Speaker A: And in 21 states in the US, you can purchase beefalo meat. [01:56:36] Speaker C: Whoa. [01:56:37] Speaker B: I've heard of beefalos. I didn't know you could purchase beefalo meat, though. [01:56:39] Speaker A: Beefalo. [01:56:40] Speaker B: Don't they basically make bigger cows? So there's more meat? [01:56:43] Speaker A: Essentially, yeah. Yeah, it's a beefalo. [01:56:45] Speaker B: It's a beefalo. I wasn't surprised. [01:56:48] Speaker A: I'm not sure, like, why a fast food chain hasn't picked this up yet. Like, it's a cool. [01:56:52] Speaker B: We've got the beefalo burger. [01:56:54] Speaker C: Can a beefalo and a beefalo have a baby? [01:56:58] Speaker A: I don't know what christians do. [01:57:00] Speaker B: No, I don't know the answer to that. [01:57:04] Speaker A: I mean, they're living animals, right? Right. Okay, I guess. [01:57:08] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:57:08] Speaker A: I don't know. [01:57:09] Speaker B: That could be facts for days next. [01:57:10] Speaker A: Week to look up how we're. [01:57:12] Speaker B: Beef can be full of mate. [01:57:14] Speaker A: I'd assume they can. [01:57:15] Speaker C: Sometimes they make these things, and then they can't actually reproduce after. [01:57:18] Speaker A: That's true. Maybe they can only self. [01:57:21] Speaker B: I'm putting money on it. I bet beefalo can't reproduce. Maybe they can, at least with each other. Maybe a beefalo can reproduce with a cow, though. [01:57:27] Speaker A: Maybe they can only self pleasure themselves. Auto, auto, fellatio. [01:57:31] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay, got it. [01:57:34] Speaker A: Number three. This is the one you're gonna take with you. [01:57:38] Speaker B: I'm listening. I've forgotten warfax for days than most people I've ever heard. [01:57:43] Speaker A: Firefighters heroes. Firefighters heroes like our own bone man. [01:57:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:57:50] Speaker A: Use. [01:57:50] Speaker B: I choose bone man first, though. He's in the top 3% of crossfit. [01:57:54] Speaker A: Or crossfit in the country. Yeah. In the world, he would not drown. In the world, he would not drown. [01:57:59] Speaker C: Not fact. [01:58:01] Speaker A: Firefighters listening use wetting agents to make their water wetter. These chemicals reduce the surface tension of plain water so it's easier to spread and better soaks into objects, creating what is commonly called wet water, which finally allows us to answer the burning question. [01:58:25] Speaker B: Burning river. [01:58:26] Speaker A: Is water wet? [01:58:29] Speaker B: Yes, but not as wet as it could be. [01:58:33] Speaker A: Yeah, it has to be wet if you can make wet water. Yeah, but this is a question science has been unable to answer for a long time. [01:58:41] Speaker B: Do you think firefighters don't like our show because we're burning river? [01:58:46] Speaker A: Yeah. I would like to think that that's, uh, you know, you know, water under the water. Yeah, that's the one I was looking for. [01:58:54] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:58:56] Speaker A: So nothing on the. Is water wet you don't have. [01:58:58] Speaker B: No. [01:58:59] Speaker A: Most people are pretty passionate one way or the other about whether water is wet. [01:59:02] Speaker C: Huh. [01:59:03] Speaker B: I just always assume I get wet. [01:59:05] Speaker C: When I get in it. [01:59:06] Speaker B: Why would it not be wet? I don't understand the argument of water's not wet. [01:59:10] Speaker A: Well, because you have, like, cohesive and adhesive. Like water would make you wet. [01:59:15] Speaker B: But water itself is not wet, is not wetland. [01:59:19] Speaker A: If it adheres to you, you would be wet. [01:59:22] Speaker B: Then I'm wet. The water's not wet. [01:59:23] Speaker A: The water's not wet. The water is what makes you wet. But other people would be like, of course water is wet. But if the water is wet water, it has to be wet. Right? [01:59:33] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:59:34] Speaker A: So I think science. [01:59:35] Speaker B: The wet water is the only one that settled. The science is settled on wet water. It is definitely wet. [01:59:41] Speaker A: Yeah, that's facts for days, boys. [01:59:43] Speaker B: What do you think about that? [01:59:44] Speaker C: I think they're just fiddling with our language. [01:59:46] Speaker B: Fiddling? Oh, fiddlesticks. [01:59:50] Speaker C: I don't know. I will say bon appetit. [01:59:54] Speaker A: Don't be a part of the problem, be the whole damn problem. [01:59:57] Speaker B: And only you can prevent river fires. Burning river sports cast. We did the exact same inflection. [02:00:06] Speaker A: Burning. Don't have your wedding on October 12. [02:00:09] Speaker B: Don't do it unless you want to, then go ahead. And if you're my friend or family, I'll still be there. [02:00:13] Speaker A: Selfish. [02:00:14] Speaker B: Burning river sports kid. [02:00:15] Speaker A: Burning river burning burning river burning river river. [02:00:24] Speaker B: Do we get a song? Uh, we didn't start the fire. No, we didn't start. [02:00:31] Speaker A: Everybody. [02:00:33] Speaker B: Know the worst of the fire. [02:00:40] Speaker A: Good night, Cleveland. [02:00:41] Speaker B: Quiet on set. [02:00:43] Speaker A: I now have two loves in my life, big city living and a voodoo woman named Phyllis. [02:00:51] Speaker B: So put your right foot in and take your right foot out. Then put your right foot in and shut the hell up. Because it's not time for the hokey pokey. It's time for the burning river sports cab. [02:01:01] Speaker A: Motorboat. [02:01:02] Speaker B: You play the motorboat, you vote upon the son of a bitch, you old seal, are you? [02:01:08] Speaker A: You know, I was thinking during that interview. [02:01:09] Speaker B: What? What were you think? Nothing. Cuz you don't have thoughts? Cuz you're a brainless idiot. [02:01:14] Speaker A: Wow. My name is Uhtred, son of Uhtred. [02:01:17] Speaker B: By the way, I want my foreskin back. [02:01:21] Speaker A: Women's guide to. To anal sex. And it was the second edition. Who makes the second edition? [02:01:27] Speaker C: The weather outside. [02:01:29] Speaker B: The other one. The finger. The finger eating food fingers. [02:01:32] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [02:01:34] Speaker B: My ass is full of shit. [02:01:36] Speaker A: He's shed everywhere. [02:01:38] Speaker C: Yes. [02:01:38] Speaker A: Ejaculate all over my body and my genitals. [02:01:41] Speaker C: Yes. [02:01:41] Speaker B: Oh, no. [02:01:43] Speaker A: We suck again. [02:01:44] Speaker C: You don't need fundamentals when you got. [02:01:45] Speaker A: Heart and Jesus in Jesus. [02:01:49] Speaker B: Touchdown. [02:01:50] Speaker C: Anyway. [02:01:51] Speaker A: What do you mean, funny? Funny how? How am I funny? [02:01:53] Speaker B: It's going down. [02:01:55] Speaker A: Timber. [02:01:57] Speaker D: Goddamn jets. [02:01:59] Speaker B: Are we gonna. [02:02:00] Speaker A: You're only in this. [02:02:01] Speaker B: Did we start a meat podcast like the meat pod? Slow roasted? [02:02:09] Speaker A: The leads are weak. The leads are weak? Fucking leads are weak. You're weak. Then we should send a team of oil core drillers a la Armageddon to Mars to have them access the newly discovered reservoirs of water traps seven to 12 miles under the surface. That one released will cover the entirety of everything on the planet less than a mile high. [02:02:24] Speaker B: All I do is win, win, win no matter what. Erroneous. Erroneous on both counts. [02:02:29] Speaker A: Oh, lord. [02:02:29] Speaker B: I mean, when I. Last year when I went home, you know, my wife's pants hit the ground. [02:02:34] Speaker A: Wow. [02:02:35] Speaker B: But damn. [02:02:35] Speaker A: I'm sorry. I hijacked your segment for a second to do some good podcasting. You know why, mister? Cause you drove a Hyundai to get here tonight, I drove an $80,000 BMW. That's my name. [02:02:49] Speaker B: I think we've officially lost all of our more conservative viewers, so I don't think they want to listen any longer. [02:02:56] Speaker C: It's Mother Nature. [02:02:58] Speaker B: I live my life a quarter mile at a time. [02:03:00] Speaker A: Where's logo girl when you need her? [02:03:01] Speaker B: I desperately want to make love to this cheese girl. [02:03:03] Speaker A: We need cheese girl. Now who's canceled? Now who's canceled now? Probably being for the fat people. [02:03:15] Speaker B: I'm not just you. [02:03:17] Speaker A: We're a whole race. Basically. [02:03:21] Speaker B: You're just straight. Just finger banging their salad. [02:03:26] Speaker C: You first get shocked and then you get the shocker. [02:03:31] Speaker A: Hey, you like to see almost naked? [02:03:33] Speaker B: That's cool, man. [02:03:33] Speaker A: Whatever. [02:03:35] Speaker B: Most people, like, they're driving along and they're like, in between meals. I'm a little hungry. 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