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It's time.
[00:01:11] Speaker A: Time for the Burning river sportscast. Football is back. And what a week it was. Stadium rendering sent quakes through the fan base as the relocate or rebuild conversation continues to heat up, Brandon Iuk trade talk seems to have fizzled out. As rumor has it, he wants nothing to do with Cleveland. And let me be the first to say, while I once supported this trade, it appears we may have dodged a huge bulletin from this cowardly, whiny little wimp of a man. I hope you drop every ball and give away each of your routes for all of eternity. The football frenzy continued as this week Cleveland hosted the annual Browns Backers president summit, bringing representatives from all over the globe to the land. Not to mention, we had real live action football played this week, with performances to analyze who stepped in and who stepped up. We'll break it all down for you next on the Burning river sportscast.
[00:02:10] Speaker B: Football was being played again, which was fantastic.
[00:02:13] Speaker A: Oh, football.
[00:02:14] Speaker B: The injury bug has already gotten us. It's already bitten us. Luke Whippler, David Bell, the Venus Flytrap.
[00:02:22] Speaker A: The soul man would argue. Maybe he's just not drinking enough milk.
[00:02:25] Speaker B: Well, there's that, but I don't know his diet so well.
[00:02:28] Speaker A: Maybe Kevin Stefanski should be checking on that.
[00:02:30] Speaker B: Maybe the nutritionist is the guy we should be talking.
[00:02:32] Speaker A: Maybe Stefanski is the nutritionist for some reason.
[00:02:36] Speaker B: I highly doubt that, but I thought you were thunder, though.
[00:02:39] Speaker A: Oh, I am thunder. I'm Thor.
[00:02:41] Speaker B: No, I'm Thor. You're thunder.
[00:02:42] Speaker A: I'm thunder.
[00:02:43] Speaker B: You don't have any hair. You can't be Thor. Regardless, they're simply delicious. Caramel apples need to stop.
[00:02:49] Speaker A: All animals die.
[00:02:50] Speaker B: That's true.
[00:02:51] Speaker A: We all die.
[00:02:52] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:02:52] Speaker A: We'll all face that.
[00:02:54] Speaker B: I don't like where this is going, but anyways, look for the giant rabbits. Next month.
[00:02:57] Speaker A: You come to this world alone, and you leave it alone.
[00:02:59] Speaker B: Can I get on with my hot three? Okay, funnel cakes for me is. I love funnel cakes.
[00:03:03] Speaker A: Do a little chocolate frosting, a little bit of strawberry stuff.
[00:03:05] Speaker B: No, I just go powdered sugar, man. It's just straight. Just raw dog in it. Yeah. Yeah. I just like it. As if.
[00:03:11] Speaker A: Okay. To the face.
[00:03:12] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:03:13] Speaker A: You know, like, if Deshawn can't handle the load like he used to be able to.
[00:03:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:03:18] Speaker A: Like, if the load is too big, I'm a child. Way too much load.
[00:03:22] Speaker B: Yeah. F him.
[00:03:23] Speaker A: F him.
We also got to see up close on our face, the tight ends, and then just round in the bottom. Cause he's got so much ass. Like, people get hot.
[00:03:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:03:37] Speaker A: They've been waiting a long time to get hot, though, so that's why.
[00:03:40] Speaker B: Well, I'm getting hot about them getting hot, and they need to stop getting hot because they are too hot.
[00:03:44] Speaker A: She has a lot of load going on.
[00:03:45] Speaker B: Nobody's hotter than red hot Ronnie champs.
[00:03:47] Speaker A: Nobody. That's fair.
[00:03:48] Speaker B: Nobody.
[00:03:50] Speaker A: Bullshit.
Welcome into the Burning river sports cast, presented by the fine folks at tap in media. I'm Kenny Thunder, as always, seated beside the man who wrote the award winning cannibal cookbook, bite me, Red Hot Ronnie jams. We are boneless again this week. Typically, I'd make a joke about him making love to a Jonas brother, but I would like to take a moment and recognize. Recognize our very own bone man as a local hero.
[00:04:19] Speaker B: He's out there saving lives.
[00:04:20] Speaker A: He has been tirelessly out on the streets for several days now, working with thousands of other power workers, trying to restore electricity to the hundreds of thousands in northeast Ohio that went out during last week's storms. I don't know that we often take the time to recognize our local utility workers enough, but no.
[00:04:39] Speaker B: Typically, the only time we recognize them is them when we're pissed that the power's off.
[00:04:42] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, it's like, we always think of, like, cops and firefighters. But, like, try going a day or two with that water of power, and you're looking for a hero. And that's exactly what all these guys are, including, again, our own bone man. So thank you for what you do, and hopefully everyone's power will be restored shortly.
[00:04:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:04:59] Speaker A: Back to red hat. Where can our listeners find the dopest dope they ever heard on a podcast, as well as the unofficial podcast of Cleveland Brown's backers everywhere? In fact, big ups to the chapters that have made us the official podcast of their chapters. Our friends in Naples, Robert, the chapter of the year, looking to be the first chapter to repeat this chapter of the year. And Cliff Colson and company out at 5280. We thank you for your support, and we look forward to having more baggers join and making us officially their favorite browns podcast.
[00:05:26] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. So, first of all, before I tell you where you get your podcast, I just gotta say, wasn't that such a great name for my cookbook? Bite me.
[00:05:32] Speaker A: Yeah, that's clever.
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[00:06:04] Speaker A: River.
[00:06:05] Speaker B: Burning river. River River's our dog mascot, in case you didn't catch last week's show.
There's also Dustin. Greater than Justin shirts in there.
[00:06:15] Speaker A: That's cause Dustin is greater than Justin Hopkins.
[00:06:17] Speaker B: Greater than Justin Tucker. Justin Tucker. Yeah, he's so not good, even though he's a hall of famer that I forgot his name.
[00:06:25] Speaker A: That's right.
[00:06:26] Speaker B: But, yeah, we got all kinds of stuff in the shop, so check it out. Buy some.
[00:06:31] Speaker A: Awesome.
[00:06:32] Speaker B: But on today's show, this is what you can look forward to. Hey, that's what my daughter says. You bring a back nail.
On today's show, you can look forward to a recap of the first preseason game, some injury news and subsequent signings to cope with those injuries. Updates from camp, the field design poll winner, more stadium news, some more trade rumors involving a top tier wide receiver, and some updates from our time at camp. Well, Kenny's time at camp. I wasn't there in the Brownsbackers president's summit. I was there for that. So put your right foot in and take your right foot out. Then put your right foot in and shut the hell up, because it's not time for the hokey pokey. It's time for the burning river sports cast. And let's get this thing started like we always do with the burning river news story of the week.
All right, so, Kenny, what's one thing we can all agree on?
[00:07:34] Speaker A: That we should send a team of oil core drillers a la Armageddon, to mars to have them access the newly discovered reservoirs of water traps seven to 12 miles under the surface that, when released, will cover the entirety of everything on the planet less than a mile high.
[00:07:45] Speaker B: Wow. That's not. That is not at all what I had in mind. Yeah, we should probably do that. No, no. We could all agree that taxes on tips are stupid bullshit. Nobody should be taxed on tips. No. Well, with the presidential elections coming up, it has been worked into Trump's platform that he will do away with taxes on tips. He announced this a while ago. Right. It's always kind of part of a while ago.
[00:08:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:08:10] Speaker B: And this past week, Kamala Harris came out and said what? She said that if she is elected president, she will do away with taxes on tips. Good news all around so far. Right. But it does beg one question. What's that question, Kenny?
[00:08:27] Speaker A: Well, to me, it would be like if you believed that you didn't want to have taxes on tips, that you would just not tax tips anymore because you're in charge.
[00:08:37] Speaker B: So you're talking about Kamala Harris, right? She's vice president.
[00:08:40] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:08:40] Speaker B: So why doesn't she just talk about it now and get it taken care of?
[00:08:43] Speaker A: That's a great question.
Yeah. It doesn't make a lot of sense if you're the party in charge that you would campaign on that. Like, just if. Just do it like, no one else is in a position to do it except you.
[00:08:57] Speaker B: I'm not. That's for sure.
[00:08:59] Speaker A: And this isn't like, a complex, like, something that needs comprehensive reform. Like. Like, looking at, like, we don't try to get too political on the show, but, like, this isn't border security. Right. We don't need, like, weeks of legislative, like, counterarguments to be like, taxes on tips are bad. Like, everybody agrees if you're making $2 an hour waiting tables, we shouldn't tax then your tips. Like, that sucks.
[00:09:22] Speaker B: Yeah. It's not good.
[00:09:24] Speaker A: But there's one person on the planet right now that really could do something about it.
[00:09:28] Speaker B: Joe Biden.
[00:09:29] Speaker A: Joe Biden and his vice president Kamala Harris.
[00:09:33] Speaker B: Yeah. And so I guess, yeah. I mean, I don't know why it's not been done already if that's part of the platform. Like, like, what better way for Joe Biden to go out, right.
[00:09:41] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, she could take that to him and say, like, joe, like, you want to go out on a bang. Like, not only does everybody universally think this is a good idea, it would also steal from our opponent something that is, like, a plank of his platform.
Like, what, what part of doing this now would be bad?
[00:09:58] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:09:59] Speaker A: And not only would that build momentum for you, like, it would position yourself better for your race in November.
[00:10:05] Speaker B: Right. I mean, like if you're, if, if part of Trump's platform, and again, we're getting just slightly political, but we're, we're not saying who to vote for, none of that stuff. But if part of your part of Trump's platform, just from a strategy perspective, is I'm going to get rid of taxes on tips. And you came out tomorrow and said, well, we just did.
[00:10:27] Speaker A: You eliminate a whole part of his platform.
[00:10:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:10:30] Speaker A: And people love it.
[00:10:31] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, you know, because, like, right.
[00:10:33] Speaker A: Now, like, if you look at it objectively, it looks like, a, you stole those idea and b, you're holding the country hostage until they vote for you. We're going to remove taxes from tips after you vote for me.
[00:10:46] Speaker B: Right. So I guess my whole point in bringing this up and making this the story of the week is for the past eight years, we've had to decide between dementia and felon and now we've got vote for me or else you won't. We'll still tax tips.
So I don't know. The big thing, though, is no matter who's elected, apparently, tips, taxes on tips are going away.
[00:11:09] Speaker A: That's true.
[00:11:10] Speaker B: And that's something we can all celebrate.
[00:11:12] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:11:13] Speaker B: No more taxes on tips.
[00:11:14] Speaker A: Agreed.
[00:11:14] Speaker B: So whoever you vote for, no more, anybody that makes tips is going to win more taxes. Yeah. All right.
[00:11:22] Speaker A: Victory.
[00:11:23] Speaker B: Victory is ours. All right. So that'll take us to the burning of a rundown.
All right, so Brown's preseason one recap is what we're going to start off with on the burning of a rundown this week. And so really here, let's be honest, it's a preseason game. There's not really a lot to talk about.
[00:11:44] Speaker A: Well, it was football.
[00:11:45] Speaker B: It was football. That's fantastic. I was excited to see people in pads hitting each other.
[00:11:49] Speaker A: I was excited to see people in pads hitting each other. I was excited to see just the orange helmets on the field.
[00:11:53] Speaker B: Yes. You know, I'd agree with that.
[00:11:56] Speaker A: What I don't like is the fact that they were at home went all white. I know it's summertime, they're trying maybe keep guys cool, but I hate when they do the all white, like ten games a year.
[00:12:05] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree.
[00:12:06] Speaker A: Give me, give me my brown and orange jerseys and pants. I like it.
[00:12:09] Speaker B: I agree. The brown.
[00:12:10] Speaker A: I just, I'm afraid, my reason I'm afraid of it is because they went to white face mask this year. So I think they look like, they think they look like studded out in all white.
[00:12:19] Speaker B: So you think that's like a whole season, we're just gonna get all white a lot. It's gonna be white out nonstop. And the worst part about that is, is we picked a terrible time to do that with our helmets and everything just because, like, luckily we were on the front end of it. But now, I don't know if you noticed in the offseason, like, three other teams added all white everything.
So it's like, now we're just part of this big trend, even though it's in our actual. We're one of the only teams that it's in our actual history that that's what we wore at one point. Point, it looks like we're just doing the trendy thing and all white everything.
[00:12:51] Speaker A: It also kind of reminds me of, like, the 99 Browns. Like, not good memories.
[00:12:56] Speaker B: No, no, no.
[00:12:57] Speaker A: Maybe for older folks.
[00:12:58] Speaker B: No, but yes. So football was being played again, which was fantastic football. It really gets your blood boiling.
Yeah, but, I mean, it was pretty uneventful other than the fact that it was a preseason game and we had injuries, which we'll talk about in just a second, but overall, we didn't really open up the playbook at all. We didn't do anything to really try to win the game. It was clearly more of, like a live practice for. For the Browns than anything. It kind of seemed like they had their scripted plays that they were going to do, and it didn't matter what the defense threw at them. They were like, these are the plays we want to run. So that's what we're running.
[00:13:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, not only that, I think it was. You hear the term vanilla with these games a lot. Like, this was the most. The most vanilla, pale white vanilla they could come up with with.
[00:13:45] Speaker B: Their pun there, with their uniforms.
[00:13:48] Speaker A: They don't want to give anything away, which is fine, but it's just also very. It was just also very boring football to watch.
[00:13:53] Speaker B: Yeah. So I don't know. As much as I'm excited that football's back in general, I kind of hate the preseason. Cause it's just so weird.
[00:14:01] Speaker A: I wish we could just, like, it's.
[00:14:02] Speaker B: Like, I'm so hyped up to watch the game, and then I watch the game and I'm like, that was.
[00:14:06] Speaker A: Well, I've always said, like, I don't know why they can't do joint practices, and, you know, they do them for, like, three or four days during the week anyway. Why don't just film those and put them on? I mean, people would watch that. Who watch hard knocks? Like, right. Why wouldn't you just if you. If we could watch the Vikings and the Browns this week, I would.
[00:14:21] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, I agree. I don't really know. Preseason is just so annoying sometimes because. Because of that, I'm just the only thing. I finally got, like, hyped up for game day, and then it's just always such a letdown in preseason.
[00:14:31] Speaker A: The only thing I was like, super looking forward to is, like, to see how they handled the kickoffs. And, like, those guys kept kicking the end zone, you guys.
[00:14:37] Speaker B: Which don't. Don't you start like the 30 if you kick it in the end zone now?
[00:14:40] Speaker A: Yeah, 30 or 35.
[00:14:41] Speaker B: Yes.
I hope that's not what happens in the regular season. We actually see some kickoffs.
[00:14:45] Speaker A: Well, you know, cade, he can't control it.
[00:14:48] Speaker B: He can't control anything. No, but he can still kick it a mile. We'll get to that.
[00:14:51] Speaker A: Too far goes in the end zone.
[00:14:53] Speaker B: Yeah. Two notes I do have from this thing, though, is the browns quarterbacks all looked pretty solid in my opinion. It was nothing that kind of like, you were like, oh, my God, these guys are fantastic. But they were super efficient. I think as a. As a team, the quarterbacks were like 85% or something like that. I think Dorian Thompson Robinson was right about 14 for 1814. Tyler Huntley was six of nine.
Jameis Winston was four. Was a four or five. That was five seven, but four or five. So, yeah, I mean, they were like 85% as a team. Very efficient.
They didn't find the end zone, but ton of completions. They all looked pretty sharp, especially for backups. Like, I think that's what's lost in this whole thing is these plays are all scripted. They're not going away from the script and they're backups like these guys.
[00:15:38] Speaker A: Well, I think James threw for like 40 yards and Huntley threw for like 50. So, like, it was just like a lot of like, very soft underneath stuff. Flares to backs and things.
The only thing that stuck out to me was like, do you make anything of Huntley being the second in line over DTR? Or is this a matter of. The Browns have four quarterbacks for the first time in a while and they just are kind of maybe going to.
[00:15:59] Speaker B: Mixe after reflecting on it a little bit more. Cause at first, my initial thought was, oh, maybe Huntley's like the actual, you know, number three and DTR is going to be going to the practice squad. But the more I reflected on it, I actually think that we can't say anything yet one way or the other because there's two more preseason games. So for all we know, the next game, Huntley could have 20 throws and DTR have five.
[00:16:28] Speaker A: It doesn't make sense when you think about, like, like, Tyler Huntley, if you looked at the him and DTR needs less work. I mean, there's getting reps in your system, which is important. But the dude's been a playoff quarterback before. Being DTR is still very, very young and raw. So makes sense to get him the time, I guess, with, with the backups.
[00:16:46] Speaker B: Absolutely. And you kind of, to that point, you know, what you have with, with Huntley coming in. So, like, it's like.
[00:16:54] Speaker A: Yeah. And I just. I mean, my big thing about the quarterbacks this year is like, like, look, we know it's Deshawn.
[00:16:59] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:16:59] Speaker A: And we know it's James.
[00:17:00] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:17:01] Speaker A: James looks fine.
[00:17:03] Speaker B: It's one of the few times that we know the starter and the backup that I can remember.
[00:17:08] Speaker A: And I think we gotta be really careful then with, like, whether it's Huntley or DTR. Especially DTR, though, like, not getting too hyped up on this guy because he's gonna probably have. If he plays the most during the preseason, he'll have the biggest numbers, he'll have the most opportunities to throw touchdowns.
[00:17:22] Speaker B: We don't wanna repeat it. Last year, where everybody thought he was.
[00:17:24] Speaker A: We thought he was really good.
[00:17:25] Speaker B: He was ready and he wasn't ready.
[00:17:27] Speaker A: And he came in and won a game for us, whatever. But, like, let's.
[00:17:30] Speaker B: He clearly wasn't ready.
[00:17:30] Speaker A: Let's make sure that, like, we keep an arm's length there.
[00:17:33] Speaker B: Yeah. And then my other note from the game is, I mentioned it just a minute ago, the injury bug has already gotten us. It's already bitten us. Luke Whippler.
Luke Whippler unfortunately went down with a broken ankle, got rolled up on one of those freak accidents.
We were fortunate that he avoided a break in that leg, which is what I mean, that's what I feared at first. When I saw it, I was like, oh, God, I hope he didn't snap his, his leg in half. But he didn't. It was at the ankle, which is a much more manageable injury. And they're saying there's a chance he could come back later in the season, whereas if it would have been his. His leg broke and it probably was done.
[00:18:11] Speaker A: Just really unfortunate, because I think a lot of us have hopes that he'll be the heir apparent to po chick eventually and is going to come in and be a boss.
But just young tank and everything was.
[00:18:22] Speaker B: Kind of moving in that direction. They keep saying he's having really good campsite. He's grown as a player exponentially since he's gotten here last year. So, yeah, I mean, it is super unfortunate. In a corresponding move, though, the Browns traded for center Nick Harris, our old friend. So this trade was kind of brilliant. All they did was give up a six rounder for Nick Harris in a 7th rounder. So you literally just dropped back one round at the tail end of the draft next year to get Nick Harris?
[00:18:54] Speaker A: You know, look, and I don't want to dig, like, way too deep into this or overthink this too much, but I was also thinking, Nick Harris has been a guy that's been around under the old coach on the offensive line under Callahan. So I think that was, I think that was important to them in the back of their mind that this guy was, was brought up the right way as opposed to trying to go get some, another backup from another roster. Right.
[00:19:19] Speaker B: Right. He knows the system. He knows the, you know, the. How you guys do things over there. I think it's kind of a no brainer. You need a backup center. Yeah, there's one right there and not going to take much to get him.
[00:19:30] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:19:32] Speaker B: But yeah. So another, another injury that happens during this game, David Bell, the Venus flytrap, which I hate to say, he went down quad with a quad injury that'll keep him out a couple weeks, and he's already kind of on the bubble of the roster. And I think this, I mean, this pretty much does it for him, in my opinion. I think he's going to be one of the cuts when we go down to the final 53. And I think David Bell's time in Cleveland is coming to an end.
[00:19:59] Speaker A: I mean, he better just hope that he made a really strong impression on somebody at some point that it wants to hold onto him because you lose that opportunity. It's tough in a crowded room.
[00:20:08] Speaker B: The absolute worst time to have an.
[00:20:10] Speaker A: Injury, like, especially when, you know, the guys that looked probably the best during this game were the really young guys.
[00:20:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:20:17] Speaker A: Jamari Thrash and Marion Brown were your leading receivers.
[00:20:20] Speaker B: Yeah. And then finally, Jordan Hicks undisclosed injury. But they say he's weak to week, so I'm sure in the coming weeks, if it doesn't get better, we'll find out what exactly happened there.
[00:20:31] Speaker A: Yeah. And undisclosed almost makes you think, like, it's maybe not serious, personal, maybe it's not an injury. They're just designating that for, for now, and he'll be back in a couple of days.
[00:20:40] Speaker B: Yep. So one thing I do want to point out real quick here is I saw a lot of chatter on just all the social media and everything is, there's a lot of people that are like, oh, we need to get rid of the strength and conditioning staff because we've had so many injuries the last couple years, like, all this stuff. And first of all, we. There actually was some new strength and conditioning coaches brought in in the offseason, so we've already done that. And second, like, when you talk about practice and one of the things that they said was it's all lower leg injuries. Okay, well, the Luke whippler injury was like a freak thing.
How often do you get your leg rolled up on, like, just in the right way that your ankle's gonna break? Like.
[00:21:21] Speaker A: Well, yeah. I mean, those guys get their legs rolled up on all the time. It happens on every play, but to the point where it's.
[00:21:26] Speaker B: It's completely planted and stuck in the ground and you snap a bone, like, that's. There's no. And it's a bone issue. There's no amount of strength and conditioning that's gonna stop that from happening.
[00:21:35] Speaker A: The bone man would argue maybe he's just not drinking enough milk.
[00:21:38] Speaker B: Well, there's that, but I don't know his diet so well.
[00:21:41] Speaker A: Maybe Kevin Stefanski should be checking on that.
[00:21:43] Speaker B: Maybe the nutritionist is the guy we should be talking.
[00:21:45] Speaker A: Maybe Stefanski is a nutritionist for some reason.
[00:21:49] Speaker B: I highly doubt that.
But, yeah, I just want to say.
[00:21:52] Speaker A: Like, this should be the nutritionist.
[00:21:54] Speaker B: My point of this whole thing is that this injury and a lot of the injuries they've had, to be honest with you, have nothing to do with strength and conditioning. And we've just been unlucky more than anything in the last probably year and a half with injuries.
[00:22:05] Speaker A: Yeah, you can finish out your.
[00:22:10] Speaker B: That was it. That's what I had.
[00:22:11] Speaker A: I mean, you can finish out your preseason stuff here.
[00:22:14] Speaker B: Next up here, Aidan Robinson got the lone touchdown for the Browns. I was excited to see that. I've been saying, I think I've been waiting on. Yeah, I think he's going to.
You're going to kind of see the ascension of Aidan Robinson to where he wins a roster spot. I don't know how much he'll play throughout the entire season, especially once Nick Chubb returns, but I do like Aidan Robinson and the potential that he has. So it's pretty cool seeing him get that touchdown. And then Kate York kicked a 55 yard field goal in this. Couldn't keep it out of the end zone on kickoffs, but he did kick a 55 yard field goal, so. Dude, dude, still got that leg.
Does this make you think maybe. Maybe Dustin Hopkins has anything to worry about? No.
[00:22:54] Speaker A: No. Cause he's sending an extension. But I do think that they will keep him on the practice squad as long as they can in the event that something happens to Dustin during the season. Cade, hopefully this year, would be a viable replacement.
[00:23:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, I would agree with that. I think that was kind of the whole goal of bringing him back is they know that really nobody's probably going to sign him. So it's like, put him on the practice squad and then we have a insurance policy.
[00:23:17] Speaker A: See, I know you have, like, the defense up next, but there's not a lot of notes there. I just wanted to just say in general, this preseason game, I go back to James Winston gave a pretty fiery opening speech on game day, to which he said, be obsessed with the opportunity.
And to me, that speaks to, especially the younger guys that are fighting for a roster spot like, this is your momentous.
[00:23:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:50] Speaker A: And look, various factors contributing, scheming, not really a thing. Vanilla offense, all these things.
I didn't see a lot of guys fighting for their life out there in that running back room or that receiving room.
[00:24:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:24:05] Speaker A: You know, I just. To me, it was almost a little lukewarm, disappointing. I mean, we've heard all this talk about Matt Landers and seem like he got some time and had one catch. Just really, I think the just wasn't. There wasn't anything that I. I walked away from that game going like, gee, that dude impressed me. And if you're obsessed with the opportunity, you're trying to make a name for yourself.
Those are the moments that you have to do. And I think the defense actually, despite, you know, getting just beat up in this game, some of the young defensive guys actually did show up in that way.
When you look at, like we talked about. Kalief. Hi, Alassi. Justin Hardy. Like some of those guys that are younger guys that led the team in tackles for the night of, like, you know, good on them.
[00:24:51] Speaker B: Yeah. And the defense was absolutely shredded by Jordan Love in this, by the way.
[00:24:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:24:56] Speaker B: But to be fair, it was a starter. Go. A starting quarterback, the highest paid quarterback per year in the NFL right now, going up against all backups.
[00:25:04] Speaker A: This time he threw one through two passes total.
[00:25:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:07] Speaker A: I mean, he just made it count.
[00:25:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. So here's the thing. Overall, no matter what the score was, no matter any of that stuff, this is a preseason game. And I think that's what people need to understand is, and I'll get further into this later, but people tend, not just in Cleveland, all over the place, people tend to overreact.
[00:25:26] Speaker A: We're excited we haven't seen football, I.
[00:25:28] Speaker B: Understand, but people overreact to preseason games. Like, trust me, the stuff that's happening right now, this team that you're seeing is nothing like what the team's going to look like during the season because hardly any of our starters are playing. Even when they do play, they're playing limited time. No matter who's in the game, they're running, again, scripted vanilla plays. They're not opening up the playbook. They're not scheming to win. They're just trying to run things to make sure they're running them correctly. They're more so, more or less getting down fundamentals than anything in the preseason games. It's a tune up. It's not like, hey, you know, we're really going out there doing our best and trying to win this game. So.
[00:26:07] Speaker A: Agreed.
[00:26:07] Speaker B: I just, it drives me nuts. Every year.
[00:26:09] Speaker A: I just hope that, again, my, from my perspective, like, I hope that somebody steps up and, like, we leave the next week going and, wow, like, that dude could play.
So I didn't really, I didn't. I mean, there was, there was no surprises to me in this game.
[00:26:22] Speaker B: Right. I agree.
And so, as for camp this week, the Minnesota Vikings come to town for joint practices before preseason. Week two on Saturday. I believe it's Saturday this week, isn't it? Saturday game, Sunday game. Saturday. Sunday.
[00:26:39] Speaker A: I think it's a Saturday game.
[00:26:40] Speaker B: Saturday game. I got it right the first time. But no, I'm excited about Minnesota coming to town because the joint practices, they're really important to see where the team stands because that's where you get some of these, like, you know, number ones versus number ones, just to see, you know, exactly how they stack up, who's winning those battles, and what our team is probably going to look like this season. So I am excited to have them come to town. I will say this. It was announced that Deshaun Watson will get the majority of the reps in joint practices this week as he's been cleared for contact. However, he will not play in this week's preseason game, and coaches have said that Watson will play in the preseason finale against the Seahawks. So I don't. This was kind of a weird thing for me. Like, I don't know why they announced to this and why they made, like, such a big deal about it in today's, you know, news conference or whatever. Press conference or whatever.
[00:27:34] Speaker A: But it seems like it's a week early regardless.
[00:27:36] Speaker B: I was just like, what's. Okay? Okay, cool.
[00:27:39] Speaker A: I mean, maybe just good. Most people assumed he wouldn't play at all in the preseason.
[00:27:44] Speaker B: Well, and I actually. The other thing, and we talked about this off air is I would rather him play this week against Minnesota and not next week for the finale. That way he's got a week to rest before the season comes.
[00:27:54] Speaker A: Right.
[00:27:54] Speaker B: So I don't really. If he's taking all the snaps and joint practices against another team where there's contact, even though the quarterbacks aren't supposed to get hit, they all. And get at least bumped and jostled and whatever else. Well, why are you taking all those shots all weekend and not playing?
[00:28:11] Speaker A: Watson's one of those guys gonna get hit more often because of the game he plays. He's just a more mobile body, so he's gonna take some hits probably in a preseason game.
[00:28:19] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:28:21] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know. Strange, but I mean, great. We got something to look forward to.
[00:28:25] Speaker B: Yeah. So for preseason week two, is there anything with the Vikings particularly. I mean, we're not gonna really see them this season, but is there anything you're looking forward to seeing from them in the preseason season?
[00:28:36] Speaker A: You know, I think it's the same thing as last week. Right? It's like JJ McCarthy's the new shiny toy over there. Obviously, we're familiar, you know, JJ McCarthy. JJ, I don't give a damn for.
[00:28:46] Speaker B: The whole state of Michigan showed himself.
[00:28:48] Speaker A: Pretty well last week and he was.
[00:28:51] Speaker B: Still the new shiny thing. Like people are still talking about.
[00:28:54] Speaker A: Eleven, a 17. I think he threw for most, 200 yards and two touchdowns. So he did have a pick in there somewhere. I mean, their quarterback room really is. I mean, they got Sam Donald on the roster. So, see, the presumed starter is a JJ McCarthy. I think CMD is probably the presumed.
[00:29:09] Speaker B: Guy, but that's only going to last half the season.
[00:29:11] Speaker A: I think it could last like three weeks. You know, it's like. That's like as soon as JJ McCarthy's ready. And if JJ keeps playing like this in the preseason, it'll be hard to keep. Might be week one from being a week one starter. Yeah.
[00:29:22] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm excited to see what he does. I hope the brown's backup shit all over him because I hate JJ McCarthy because he's from Michigan.
[00:29:30] Speaker A: But no one likes him.
[00:29:31] Speaker B: No. No. Nobody does. Not a single person on the planet likes JJ McCarthy.
[00:29:36] Speaker A: But except for the Vikings in terms of, like, the look and feel of his game. Like, it looks like a similar type of game as, like, Kirk Cousins had. So I feels like they can kind of run that same offense with him, which I would agree. Also, Sam Darnold kind of fits in that mix. We just know Sam Darnold's ass already.
[00:29:53] Speaker B: So, yeah, he's not good.
Not good.
[00:29:57] Speaker A: All the. All the talk about, you know, that draft class. Like, the jury's finally out on Sam Darnold, but he's not good.
[00:30:03] Speaker B: It's funny looking back on that draft class, and it's pretty much all ass, right?
[00:30:07] Speaker A: So, I mean, you know, we'll see. Baker's probably gonna win the division this year.
[00:30:13] Speaker B: That's hard.
[00:30:16] Speaker A: I mean, how often? I'm just saying. He'll be in the playoffs again.
[00:30:20] Speaker B: How do every show we get in, it always comes back to Kenny talking about Baker and how he loves.
[00:30:25] Speaker A: I'm just saying Sam darling's not gonna be in the playoffs. Cause he's good. Baker probably will be in the playoffs.
[00:30:29] Speaker B: You're that guy that we all hate that just. Just can't let it go. But anyways, notable roster moves. Just one week into the preseason here, John Kelly has officially been cut. Happy trails.
[00:30:40] Speaker A: Happy trails.
[00:30:42] Speaker B: Lost a fumble, and he was done.
[00:30:43] Speaker A: So it's one of those, like, you can't put the ball on the ground in the preseason, like, playing backups.
[00:30:49] Speaker B: Well, especially with the running back room as deep as it is.
[00:30:52] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, you are all fighting for a paycheck right now.
[00:30:56] Speaker B: And I will say the running back room as a whole average 2.7 yards of carry in the first preseason game, which is awful. But nobody else fumbled besides you. So you're out. You're out. Does this mean a bigger workload for Aidan Robbins, you think?
[00:31:09] Speaker A: I mean, I hope so. Look, we've been intrigued.
[00:31:12] Speaker B: I just asked a question. Cause obviously I'm the most intrigued on the show about it.
[00:31:15] Speaker A: We've been intrigued by Aidan Robbins. I think it would be almost like the old Tennessee backfield when they had Lendell White. And who was there? Was it Chris Johnston at the same time? Lightning and thunder? Or was it somebody else?
[00:31:27] Speaker B: No.
Well, in college, it was lightning and thunder. It was. USC had regulation.
[00:31:34] Speaker A: Yeah, but that doesn't count. NFL lightning and thunder was more important.
It was still. Lindell White was thunder.
[00:31:40] Speaker B: But I thought you were thunder.
[00:31:43] Speaker A: I think it was Chris Johnson that was with him.
[00:31:44] Speaker B: Maybe it probably was because he was super fast and he was on the titans. I thought you were thunder, though.
[00:31:49] Speaker A: Oh, I am thunder. I'm Thor.
[00:31:51] Speaker B: No, I'm Thor. You're thunder.
[00:31:53] Speaker A: I'm thunder.
[00:31:54] Speaker B: You don't have any hair. You can't be Thor.
[00:31:55] Speaker A: Regardless, I would hope we see more of Aidan Robbins. I think it would be a really interesting one to punch if he had a guy that was more of a power back to fit the kind of like, I don't even know what you call Nick Chubb. Like the five tool player.
[00:32:09] Speaker B: Like, he has. He has every skill, running back. Well, it would be interesting. To your point, it would be interesting. So you have Pierre strong on the roster, who I think is going to probably make team over. I think I still am sticking with. I think Jerome Ford might be cut, but.
So if you have, maybe not early, because we still gotta wait for Nick.
[00:32:26] Speaker A: Chubb to come back on the broadcast that he was the yards per carry leader last year for them.
[00:32:32] Speaker B: Well, yeah, because of three rushes the entire season, all of which went for 80 yards.
So, yeah, of course he was. But no, so not Jerome.
[00:32:42] Speaker A: Pierre strong.
[00:32:43] Speaker B: Oh, Pierre strong. That makes more sense. So. And that's even with his three, with Jerome Ford three rushes that were 80 some yards each. But anyways, you got Pierre Strong, who's fast, so he could be the lightning. You got Aidan Robbins, who's the big, just bruiser. That could be the thunder. Then you got Nick Chubb, who just does everything.
[00:33:01] Speaker A: Yeah. 525252.
[00:33:03] Speaker B: So, like, how do you stop that backfield?
[00:33:07] Speaker A: Well, Stefanski is going to stop because he's going to throw the ball 60% of the time. 80% of the time.
[00:33:11] Speaker B: Well, there's that. He's Stefanski right now. We respect him. You tell the line here until he fucks up.
[00:33:17] Speaker A: I'm just saying like, that. I expect our offense to be pass heavy, healthy.
[00:33:22] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree.
[00:33:22] Speaker A: Now, if Deshawn is, you know, we'll see what he looks like. We might have to go run first, but we'll see.
[00:33:28] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll see. But for the third season in a row, the Browns had the fans vote for their. For the field design.
[00:33:34] Speaker A: And thank God this fan base is not as dumb as I had predicted they were last week.
[00:33:40] Speaker B: You thought they were going to go with the dog just because it was the second year in a row. Like, I still stick by. I think the browns are trying to get the dog on because I think they want it to stick. And so far, I don't think it's fully stuck with everybody. Like, people were kind of like, I'm okay with it, but it's not like we really like this logo, because we.
[00:33:59] Speaker A: Know that logo was a plant to begin with, so they obviously wanted to stick.
[00:34:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:34:04] Speaker A: They were so clever to have this thing with all these.
Oh, look, he's got the four teams in the ASU north and the stadium.
[00:34:13] Speaker B: In my opinion, both of the final two are plants.
[00:34:15] Speaker A: Well, you're on.
[00:34:17] Speaker B: More importantly, though, they were both plants.
[00:34:20] Speaker A: No.
[00:34:20] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:34:21] Speaker A: More importantly, though, elf is at midfield again.
[00:34:24] Speaker B: Yeah. The elf.
[00:34:24] Speaker A: Brownie. Elf is back.
[00:34:25] Speaker B: Brownie. The elf won, so it's. And actually, the dog stays completely off of the field with this because it's brownie the elf at midfield, and the helmet will be in the end zone.
[00:34:34] Speaker A: And maybe, you know, again, so my apologies to the fan base on, as, you know, as a whole. Cause you didn't make the wrong decision, so that's good.
[00:34:43] Speaker B: I was surprised, though. The dog came in second and the helmet came in third. I thought the helmet would come in second, the dog would come in third, but it did not.
[00:34:50] Speaker A: I think maybe because there were so many good vibes from last year, like, the team has been good.
[00:34:54] Speaker B: That's true.
[00:34:54] Speaker A: It was the field like that, and.
[00:34:57] Speaker B: It was for the dog. It was the first year. Like, not the first year, but, like, we were a lot of great things. It was a lot of fun watching the Browns last year. It was the first year that the dog was. Was a thing.
[00:35:07] Speaker A: Every fan has a level of superstition to them.
[00:35:10] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree.
[00:35:11] Speaker A: Like, if things are going.
[00:35:12] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[00:35:12] Speaker A: You don't want to change it.
[00:35:14] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:35:15] Speaker A: So making the playoffs, regardless of they lost, making the playoffs is a good thing. Yeah.
[00:35:20] Speaker B: And, I mean, the first year with the dog, and you have the legend of Brown's quarterback, Joe Flacco.
[00:35:25] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:35:26] Speaker B: It's fantastic.
[00:35:27] Speaker A: It's a good thing.
[00:35:28] Speaker B: But speaking of the field, the Cleveland Browns unveiled renderings.
[00:35:32] Speaker A: I'm gonna get sweaty here.
[00:35:33] Speaker B: Of a new dome in Brook park. And this is a thing of beauty. This thing was fantastic. It looks like we finally.
[00:35:41] Speaker A: It's everything that I hoped it would be.
[00:35:44] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. It looks phenomenal.
[00:35:46] Speaker A: Beautiful, modern glass palace.
[00:35:50] Speaker B: The best part about the whole thing that, like you said, it's a glass palace. And, like, the. The flyovers that they did, and you could see the entire field, and they kind of put the field almost in a pit. Like. Like. So, like, when you come into it.
[00:36:01] Speaker A: Safety.
[00:36:02] Speaker B: Yeah, the main. Yeah, exactly. Definitely some protection in there. I just went and saw twisters over the weekend, so it was a lot of fun, actually. It wasn't like a. Like, I'm not gonna sit here and say it was a great movie. It's kind of like the first twister.
[00:36:15] Speaker A: Cast and stuff was kind of, like, fun.
[00:36:16] Speaker B: Yeah, it was like the. It was like the original twister. Like, it was like, if you watch that movie, the acting's not the best. Like, it's kind of cheesy. The science doesn't really hold up, but you watch it, you're like, this is pretty fun. Like, they're just running around with twisters. And that was kind of how this one was, so I liked it.
[00:36:33] Speaker A: Serenos are scary as hell.
[00:36:35] Speaker B: Yeah, they are.
But. So, yeah, you create, like, a giant.
I don't know what you bunker, if you will. But anyways, my point was that it's cool that when you're coming on the main level into the stadium. The main level is, like the upper terminal. Almost like you're at the top of the bowl. And you go down into the stadium. So when you fly over the stadium through the glass. You just get this, like, panoramic view of the entire stadium. And it just looks amazing.
[00:37:04] Speaker A: It just looks like an incredible campus. It's everything that we've been talking about, right? When we talk about there's going to be shops and hotels and restaurants and bars. And thinking about, like, they. They obviously, what they conveyed to the team that did the renderings. Is like, they want this to be a place for Browns fans. Twelve months a year.
[00:37:25] Speaker B: And it conveyed to me like it was exactly that. Like, they showed you why this would be a good thing. For not only Cleveland, but northeast Ohio as a whole.
Whereas everything with downtown, so far, in my opinion, has been all about, how can we help Cleveland? How can we do this? Which is all well and good. I understand the businesses down there. This and that. This was more of a regional thing that they rolled out and you could see it.
[00:37:51] Speaker A: And the two things that were, like, really stuck out to me. That I thought one was. One was really cool. Which was the wintertime variant that they ran. It had the ice rink out there. It's like, that would be like, people will be doing Christmas shopping. And, like, coming in to stay from out of town. There's stay in hotels out there. You have this whole, like, new center of commerce and activity, like, centered around the stadium.
[00:38:14] Speaker B: I like the concert renderings. Like, it looks legit.
[00:38:17] Speaker A: Concerts, let's be honest. Like, that concerte they put in there. In the rendering. Like, that was aimed at Taylor Swift. There was no. I mean, I don't know if the picture on the actual screen was Taylor or not. I probably could have been, but, like, it was Taylor Swift, right? Like, they're saying, hey, we weren't never going to get Taylor Swift this time around, but maybe the next time she's on. On tour, this is the place that she would love to.
[00:38:38] Speaker B: Well, it's funny, like, with the, you know, the whole concert thing and having different events. I just think it's hilarious that everybody points to SummerSlam this year and the fact that they had the two big concert, like Rock Stewart or whoever it is up there, and it's like an anomaly. Yeah, we haven't had concerts there in years. We haven't had a wrestling event there in years. So, like, to me, that was the city of Cleveland with, like, a last ditch effort of, let's show people that we could use this outside of football.
[00:39:07] Speaker A: And it isn't like, it is nice to have an outdoor venue for those sorts of things, but, like, there are plenty of those in the area.
[00:39:14] Speaker B: Like, trust me, the WWE is looking at you for far more events. If you have a dome or a roof, whatever you want to call this thing. Cause it's not technically a dome, but if you have a roof over your stadium versus what we have now, they're.
[00:39:29] Speaker A: Looking at you for far more specifically for the WWE. I mean, the WWE loves to be in a venue that has state of the art lighting and sound systems because they're trying to get away from pyrotechnics so much because of the insurance costs and things that it drives. So to have state of the art lighting where they can still do all the laser light show stuff that they want to do and the 3d animation and VR stuff that they want to do on the tv, they love that sort of thing. So, yeah, just the fact that, like, this. This thing is so versatile now and again, for me, like, the important thing is, like, this thing is built. It's the community around it. It's all the stuff that's gonna go in around it, because there's gonna be nights where we're like, hey, let's go to Joe Thomas's bar for dinner, like, just to go up there and, like, hang out for a couple hours just for something to do.
[00:40:15] Speaker B: Yeah. And I will say this. They kind of. They didn't put all their eggs in this basket. The Haslams did come out and say, this isn't a done deal. This is what we have in mind is still undecided.
[00:40:29] Speaker A: This whole conversation is very political in nature, though.
[00:40:31] Speaker B: Yeah. But I will say, with writings on the wall, you don't put this much effort into something. Unless that's your plan.
Especially when it comes to renderings like this. Those renderings, I'm sure, cost a lot of money.
[00:40:43] Speaker A: A lot of money. Cause there was a lot of thought put into them. The whole way they did the seasons and showing all different ways it can be used. I mean, there was some significant work done on those.
[00:40:52] Speaker B: Yeah. And in the meantime. So prior to them releasing these renderings, or the same day, I think it was, the Cleveland Browns put out their. We talked about it last week. It was. It was when we recorded last week that they put it out there like, this is our bid to keep the browns on the lakefront, all this stuff.
And they gave the Browns a deadline. Well, the Browns responded yesterday, on Sunday, and they said they need more time than what was given. And they kind of caught it, which I thought was. Was great. They called out the city for arbitrary timelines and how this is kind of what got them into the mess with the current stadium in the first 1st place is the fact that it was rushed through.
No thought was put into it. And that's why it wasn't a stadium that was built to last. It was a stadium that was built to be a fix for the next 20 years or so.
[00:41:41] Speaker A: Well, it was built to be ready for 1999. It was the thing. It was built to be ready for the team to play in. And that's it.
[00:41:46] Speaker B: So there was no real thought put into it. And I think by releasing these renderings and to your point, it shows that there was a lot of thought put into this, and there continues to be a lot of thought put into this, and that it's not done, and that this is just the vision and there's more work to do.
[00:42:02] Speaker A: I'm honestly surprised still at the amount of kind of pushback I've seen from fans on this, because, like, I looked at this and I was like, like, build it tomorrow. Yesterday. Like, build it yesterday.
[00:42:12] Speaker B: Let's go.
[00:42:13] Speaker A: Let's have this thing done. I'm surprised there's still a population of people that are looking at it going, you know, I'd rather be outside. I'd rather freeze my ass off for 6 hours on Sunday.
[00:42:25] Speaker B: Shout out to our boy at the north Jersey BrownSBackers. Kevin over there. We love Kevin. And that was his take on it. He's like, well, it's it. You know, it's. It's northeast Ohio. It's football if you're out in the elements. But here's the deal. Like, just. Just from the fact that I'm a huge Browns fan, and I like to go to the games, but guess what? Basically, like, the middle of October, I'm done going to Browns games because I'm not a young guy anymore that wants to go out there and freeze my nuts off. Like, I just, I want to be comfortable watching the games.
[00:42:54] Speaker A: And maybe somebody like Kevin is somebody that wants to come to Cleveland and.
[00:42:57] Speaker B: More power to you.
[00:42:58] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm not, but, but there's not a lot of those guys out there anymore.
[00:43:01] Speaker B: No, no. The majority of people, I think, are like, and we want to be comfortable.
[00:43:04] Speaker A: I can understand the nostalgia of old school fans that are like, I love having a stadium on the lake and the win, but it's just like, to be honest, like, your population is kind of moving out. Like, there's a lot more people that are coming that we're trying to, like, include and bring into this now. And here's the thing.
[00:43:20] Speaker B: And everything around the stadium goes into that. Like, all the stuff that younger people want to do.
[00:43:24] Speaker A: That destination will be the crown jewel of the NFL for four or five years at least. I mean, that will be like Jerry World was when it opened. They'll get every event known to Mandev coming through Cleveland, Ohio. I mean, what an incredible facility to have and what an incredible tool for your city to have.
[00:43:43] Speaker B: And here's the other bigger, more football related part of it, too, is we, we've talked about this.
[00:43:47] Speaker A: You get a Super bowl.
[00:43:48] Speaker B: Well, yeah. You get a Super bowl. Yeah. That's fantastic. But we've talked about this at length. Off air is today's NFL. It doesn't benefit you to be in the cold. It just doesn't at all. And I don't care what anybody says, it doesn't matter how good your running game is, today's NFL, they, I mean, hell, you go to, like, like, besides the games where it's literally a snowstorm during the game, which hardly ever happens, and when it does, the last few years, we've seen that cancel the games.
[00:44:16] Speaker A: The last time that the weather being as shitty as humanly possible benefited the Browns was when Phil Dawson was in uniform, because Phil was a magician with the wind, understood the city, understood elements. But he's one guy out of the hundreds of players that have played for this team since 1999. Today's game doesn't, doesn't rely on kicking, doesn't rely on running, doesn't rely on defense. It is a pass happy air raid. Everything, it's about speed. If your defensive backs can keep up with the wide receivers, if the wide receiver can run great routes like speed and separation. And that doesn't happen in the rain and snow.
[00:44:54] Speaker B: And again they, in the snow, like if it's snowing, guess what they do? They clear the entire field beforehand. So you're still throwing the ball because the snow is not a factor.
[00:45:03] Speaker A: And again, like there's iconic shots of those snow games. Right? So like I, can I get the nostalgia with. Yeah, the nostalgia of it, but like it's just not the way the NFL is going.
[00:45:13] Speaker B: You know, why other, other than maybe one or two outliers. Like there's no games in recent memory that fit those. Like all that, all that footage of those snow games are from like at least 1015 years ago.
[00:45:25] Speaker A: Well I think the thing that tricks people is like they go, oh, browns blue collar, hardworking town. The snow is a benefit to them. It's like what team of people watching.
Cause when was the last time there was cold? And that was like a huge advantage for the Brown. The Browns were like twelve and four. Because they get the snow. They got four games in the snow. Like this never happened. Anytime it gets cold, we lose.
[00:45:45] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, matter of fact, two years ago when Nick Chubb was healthy for the whole season, we were one of the best rushing teams in the league. I mean like did it benefit us at all? No, we didn't make the playoffs.
[00:45:54] Speaker A: Even with the last like four or five years where we've had a decent record, we're still like the losingest team since 1999 in terms of win percentage. And we do it in the elements. The best argument that I've seen, quite honestly, for keeping the team at the Lakeshore and open to the elements is that you play in the AFC north and you'd be the only AFC north team with a dome.
I was kind of like, yeah, it makes you look soft, but hey, I got the crown jewel. The NFL and everybody's coming here.
[00:46:25] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't care. To me it doesn't, that doesn't even matter to me like that. You're talking about perception at that point. Like who cares what the perception is? If you go out and win games, nobody's going to give a right. Like if you, if you win a super bowl in this thing, nobody cares that you did it. You don't get an asterisk because you did it in a dome.
[00:46:42] Speaker A: It's kind of like the helmets and stuff to the, like then the uniforms and stuff. To this day people are like, ah, I never want to see a logo on the helmet and all this stuff. Or like you know what? I'm like, let's change the jerseys. Let's change the color. Like, this team has socked forever.
[00:46:56] Speaker B: Let's put.
[00:46:56] Speaker A: Let's do something different.
[00:46:58] Speaker B: I say we put river on the helmets.
[00:46:59] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, I'm in favor of change. Like, we can't be afraid of change forever. Like, this is a good change. It's good for the community. It's good for the city. It's good for all of the people in northeast Ohio. It's one of the few things that would make Cleveland like a destination. Like a summertime destination. Like, if you could go, there was a bunch of shopping and stuff in this village. People travel for that kind of shit.
How many people go to Columbus? How many people weekend to go shopping and stuff down there?
[00:47:26] Speaker B: Right. How many people travel to Cleveland each year cause they wanna have a snow game?
No one. Literally nobody. Not a single person.
Hey, Kevin, we love you, but do you actually come here every year specifically for a snow game? Because I'm pretty sure you said the one you're coming to this year is the Giants, which is very early in the season, so it'll be nice. Again, we love you, but you're coming to a warm game. So.
Yeah, I don't know. I just. I think ultimately they're going Brooke park dome because it makes too much sense for them to go another route. Like, it makes too much sense. That option does for them to even consider.
[00:48:04] Speaker A: I think the only consideration at this point is cost. I mean, let's be honest. Like, Jimmy's not the youngest guy on the planet. Like. Like, do they want to make the time, the investment and the time and the money that it takes for that?
[00:48:16] Speaker B: That's the only downside. But on the other side of it, it sounds like from what they've said in the. When they released the renderings, that they kind of already have most of that lined up. They have private investors that are ready to.
[00:48:28] Speaker A: Jimmy's on the verge of death and nobody thinks they're going to die tomorrow.
[00:48:30] Speaker B: That was the other thing is the percentage of taxpayer money is exponentially lower with Brook Park Dome because they said they have so many private investors that are ready to jump on this thing and get it going.
[00:48:45] Speaker A: Here's my final point on this, too, is it's huge for Brooke park.
[00:48:52] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:48:53] Speaker A: I mean, that's going to be massive for them in terms of bringing in revenues for infrastructure projects and things. And here's the thing. If you've been in downtown Cleveland, how much new building is happening in downtown Cleveland? Not a lot because you're. Because you're waterlocked with the. You're landlocked with the lake. Right. So you can only build out this way. The city is going to continue. It's called urban sprawl for anybody that's, you know, not super, like, high on their political science and geography. The city is going to continue to come this way. It's going to continue to merge south. So at some point, Brook Park, Cleveland.
[00:49:35] Speaker B: Like, it's all going to be one. It's not going to be going to be Cleveland. Yeah.
[00:49:39] Speaker A: Because they're. People are going to keep moving to the city just because that's how cities work.
[00:49:43] Speaker B: But they moved to the outskirts. They moved to the suburbs at the very edge of it.
[00:49:46] Speaker A: And the suburbs are going to keep coming back and back and back because they're going to want to put new skyscrapers in. If there's more people and there's more business and there's more stuff and more restaurants and more shopping, somewhere it has to come south. So this. In 15 years, Brooke park may be the entrance or the middle of Cleveland.
[00:50:05] Speaker B: Yeah.
I mean, I agree with you. I don't think you. We can't drive this home enough. The Brook park dome makes too much sense.
[00:50:12] Speaker A: Makes all the sense.
[00:50:14] Speaker B: You gotta go with it.
[00:50:15] Speaker A: That's why there's a bunch of smart people in Cleveland that are willing to spend two and a half billion dollars on this because it makes all the sense.
[00:50:21] Speaker B: The one thing I will say is this is turning into a political nightmare because the freaking city of Cleveland and Cuyahoga county are already talking about, like, blocking this thing, which is ridiculous. This is what even with the pushback that you said from some of the fans, I think overwhelmingly, the majority of the people that I see talking about this, it's about how they love the dome idea and they want to go forward with that.
[00:50:42] Speaker A: Yeah. And look, we've talked again about, like, getting to the stadium on game day. Like, you're still gonna be able to have tailgates and things downtown Cleveland and have you, your bars and restaurants have parties and things. You gotta drive an extra 15 minutes. It was taking you 15 minutes to get to the stadium anyway.
[00:50:58] Speaker B: I saw a thing. I don't have the.
I don't have bibliography for this thing, but tell you exactly where it came from.
Bibliotheca. Yeah. There was a research study that was done on the impact that a dome would have on the downtown businesses. Some evidence that they put into this thing that said there's a. It could potentially actually help the downtown businesses because they're still getting business regardless because it's in Cleveland on game day. But like a lot of the congestion and all that other stuff is relieved. So people can get around there a lot.
[00:51:31] Speaker A: They don't want to go there.
[00:51:32] Speaker B: They can throw big events and big parties downtown because there's not the entire flow of the stadium preventing them from doing that.
[00:51:40] Speaker A: Well, not to mention a lot of people that are going to those tailgates and stuff at those bars are going to the stadium at game time. So now your bars empty from one to four.
[00:51:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:51:48] Speaker A: You know, now your bar can stay filled with people that aren't going to the game.
[00:51:52] Speaker B: Right. So, yeah, I mean, I, build the dome.
[00:51:55] Speaker A: Build the dome.
[00:51:56] Speaker B: Build the dome.
Next up here, AFC north news. Real quick. We'll take a quick trip around the AFC north and okay, we'll start with the Bengals. Joe Burrow looked good in the preseason debut. He was five of seven for 51 yards and a touchdown.
[00:52:14] Speaker A: F Joe Burrow.
[00:52:15] Speaker B: I agree. People are pointing this and saying, see, Joe Burrow is back. He's back. But once again, I just want to throw out there. You guys do realize this is preseason, right? He's probably playing against all backups.
And I just gotta say, slow down, speed racer. The guys coming off a major injury to his throwing arm, just like our quarterback is. So like, you can't put too much stock into the preseason and what's happening in the preseason. So just, just relax.
In our opinion here, I mean, everybody else will tell you something different. Apparently the Bengals are going to win the division according to everybody else.
Think so.
[00:52:47] Speaker A: NFL.com has his last in the division.
[00:52:49] Speaker B: Yeah, well, NFL.com, suck it.
Next up here in Baltimore. Still not much coming out of Baltimore. We did get to see their backup quarterbacks in the preseason debut, though, and I'm really starting to doubt that this team is going to do anything. I'm doubting this team more and more as time goes on. Again, NFL.com probably has them finishing second, I would assume to the Bengals because that's what most places, most, most media outlets have them finishing as Bengals one, Baltimore two.
I don't know. If, if Lamar goes down, this team is fucked.
[00:53:23] Speaker A: Well, yeah, if Lamar goes down. I've been burned by Lamar too many times to be like, he's not good enough.
[00:53:29] Speaker B: I don't even talk about he goes down, like for the majority of the season. Like, even if he misses a few games, like their backups. I don't know if you watch it, if you saw any of this. Their backups were awful.
[00:53:39] Speaker A: And I think the AFC north is going to be, the margin for error in the AFC north is going to be so small, uh, because it's going to be hyper competitive.
[00:53:47] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:53:47] Speaker A: So, yeah, if you're, if you, you missed two weeks or three weeks with an ankle sprain like that could make your, make or break your season.
[00:53:53] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[00:53:57] Speaker A: I think, um, one of the most interesting things I've heard was what you said before we jumped on camera here about Tyler Huntley, which is, it would behoove the Browns to keep him on their roster.
[00:54:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:54:10] Speaker A: Because the backups in Baltimore have. Don't look very good.
[00:54:14] Speaker B: Well, I didn't even think about it until I saw backups played. I was like, they are bad. Like, really bad.
[00:54:18] Speaker A: I mean, like, Tyler Huntley has burned us into the past when Lamars went down.
So, yeah, I mean, again, the guys.
[00:54:25] Speaker B: Play the Pro bowl.
[00:54:26] Speaker A: Like, yeah. Like, we, if we could hold on to him and just, just in spite of, like, keeping him off the Baltimore team, that if Arn gets hurt, they don't have a viable backup. I mean, look, we're playing 40 check. At this point.
[00:54:39] Speaker B: I can almost guarantee you that if the Browns release Tyler Huntley, he will be a Baltimore Raven before the season starts. Save this clip. Because if the Browns release Tyler Huntley, he will be a Baltimore Raven before week one.
[00:54:51] Speaker A: And that's not good.
[00:54:52] Speaker B: No, it's not. Cause he's far better than anybody they have on that. That roster.
[00:54:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:54:57] Speaker B: And then finally, the Steelers had their first preseason game as well. Which AFC north went Owen o four in their preseason games. So we all suck because that's how you judge teams is off the preseason. But anyways, obviously Steelers had their first preseason game. Justin Fields could not hang onto the ball in this.
Yeah. Yeah. And so I will say this, though, he looked electric. Other than that. Like, he, he made plays with his legs. He did some good things. Like, he looked really good in this to the point where, like, reporters literally, literally had to ask Mike Tomlin. They're like, well, he did a lot of good. Like, do those fumbles undo it? And it's Mike Tomlin. So he was like, absolutely. Like, you can't have fumbles.
[00:55:39] Speaker A: I saw a lot of criticism about him holding onto the ball too long. In fact, I. Out of last year's numbers, he's one of the slowest to, like, get to a release point. He takes like 3.29 seconds or something. In that same vein, CJ stroud was also in the top four, longest to release.
[00:55:59] Speaker B: Right. So he's phenomenal.
[00:56:02] Speaker A: But I was, I put more stock.
[00:56:04] Speaker B: Into the fact in that stat that he played for the Bears and they sucked.
[00:56:07] Speaker A: Well, yeah. I was also, though, watching them kind of break down just so that any ESPN break down this afternoon, noon on Orlovsky was looking at some of the receivers going like, hey, like, these guys are not even running the right routes. You got receivers running into each other next to each other. Like, of course he's holding onto the football.
[00:56:27] Speaker B: Who's he supposed to throw it to? You know, one guy can cover three receivers. Like, what are you going to do?
[00:56:32] Speaker A: Yeah, so it's like, I think we have to, you know, it's early in the preseason. You know, I think it's a new offense, a new team. Again, a lot of these teams aren't showing anything right now, so it's more just like repetition of like pitch and catch. What can we get done out there?
[00:56:47] Speaker B: I think the big thing here, though, is just, it is going to, this is turning into a very tough decision in Pittsburgh on who they're going to go with in week one, whether it's going to be Justin Fields or Russell Wilson.
[00:57:00] Speaker A: I predicted last week, I think this thing's going to be a shit show all year long. It's going to be whoever they pick for the start of week one, they're going to wish to pick the other guy four or five weeks, and then.
[00:57:06] Speaker B: Every time they switch, they're going to.
[00:57:07] Speaker A: Do the same thing. Well, shit, that was, that didn't help us. And then they're going to go back to the other guy. It's going to be, it's going to be the disaster all year long for them.
[00:57:13] Speaker B: Yeah. So which I'm here for. Yeah, good for the Browns. Good for the Browns. I can't wait till hard knocks shows up. And we, I hope they're back and forth at that time, too. And by that time, I hope they're, I don't think they will be, unfortunately, but I hope they're like six games under 500 and they're just like, what the fuck do we do?
[00:57:29] Speaker A: Like hard box.
[00:57:31] Speaker B: I don't know what that means. But anyways, one note from around the league real quick before we close out the burning of a rundown. Jonathan Taylor wore a guardian cap for the first preseason game for the Colts.
And so it actually, when he came out with this thing, I didn't even honestly notice that much at first. And then they kind of pointed it out on the broadcast and I was like, oh, he is wearing a guardian cap, because they put this, like, skull cap over the guardian cap. So many caps.
And it looks, you know, it's designed to look pretty much like their helmets. And so when you. When you realize that it's a guardian cap, you look at it, you're like, okay, yeah, that's pretty bulky. Um, but, like, just in the flow of the game. Like, it's. It's hard to notice when they're just lined up, ready to go.
[00:58:16] Speaker A: So we'll say, um, yeah, I make it a point to go to Brown's camp once a year just to kind of see what's going on with my own eyes. I was fortunate, and we're going to talk about camp a little bit later in the program, but I was fortunate to get to have a chance to go last week. This was the first year that I can remember everyone had a guardian camp on a practice. There was not a single person that did not. Maybe the kickers, but for all team drills, all the individual. Individual drills, everyone had them on.
[00:58:47] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:58:48] Speaker A: So, yeah, I think it'll be interesting to see how much adoption is across the league.
[00:58:53] Speaker B: Well, I haven't heard too much. I mean, there was, there was one for the browns, but I have overall, I haven't heard too much about concussions in the preseason.
[00:59:02] Speaker A: So they said this thing was like magic last year, and we've all said that, why don't they just wear them all?
[00:59:10] Speaker B: So my point to this was just, will we see more of this than we think this year? Especially because Jonathan Taylor, that's a big name to be wearing a guardian cap like he's a star running back in this league.
[00:59:20] Speaker A: I've never worn one because they weren't around when we were playing football.
[00:59:23] Speaker B: Right. Plus, we were just way tougher than these guys.
[00:59:26] Speaker A: Way tougher. I mean, concussions. Concussion.
[00:59:28] Speaker B: Yeah. I've literally had, like, 14 of them. I'm fine.
[00:59:31] Speaker A: We have concussions for breakfast.
[00:59:35] Speaker B: I'll take another one.
[00:59:37] Speaker A: Thank you, sir. Can't have another. Yeah, yeah.
[00:59:41] Speaker B: I just have to imagine concussions are no joke.
[00:59:43] Speaker A: No, I apologize. Head injuries are serious.
We are still tougher than them.
I just have to imagine a football helmet already is bulky and heavy. Just adding layers to that, just, to me, seems like it could only slow you down, especially if you were scared.
[01:00:03] Speaker B: The thing that confuses me, too, is a concussion in nature. Everybody thinks that the blow to the head is what causes a concussion. And where it can, it absolutely can. Most of the time. It's actually the fact of, like, the recoil, like, your head is actually, you get hit, your brain goes the opposite way and bounces off the other side of your head and, like, inside your skull. And so you get a concussion because you're like, my, you know, my brain hit the side of my skull. So to me, to your point, if you're adding more weight and stuff, one, I don't know how more padding is gonna. They say it does, but I just don't understand how it reduces number of concussions when a lot of times it comes from the recoil, like whether you're hitting the ground or hitting something else after you've been hit.
[01:00:49] Speaker A: It seems like in recent years, the recoil on the ground has been like the big call, right?
[01:00:53] Speaker B: So I don't know how more padding's gonna stop that because the padding has nothing to do with it. It's the fact that your head is bouncing off the ground and then it's like a sudden stop for your brain.
[01:01:01] Speaker A: Front of your skull.
[01:01:02] Speaker B: Right. So, like, I just. I don't know, it's. It's odd to me. And I would like to see, like, the guardian cap numbers have been taken during training camp and preseason when most people aren't going full go anyways. So it'd be interesting to see, in my opinion, like a lot of people wear and see what those numbers come back as during the regular season because people were going full go and you're actually going to get real game time data out of that.
[01:01:27] Speaker A: So it just amazes me that we don't have concussion conversations or data.
[01:01:32] Speaker B: Both.
[01:01:33] Speaker A: Yeah, I go both.
[01:01:34] Speaker B: I go. I just thought of that. As I said that, I was like, I said data. I usually say data, but I go both.
[01:01:39] Speaker A: It depends on who I'm talking to.
[01:01:41] Speaker B: You're an idiot. So I would data.
[01:01:44] Speaker A: I wouldn't data either.
Look, her, I barely know her.
I just still. It's amazing to me that in 2024, we still are having concussion conversations in the NFL, and we don't have them with rugby, with mma, boxing.
[01:02:04] Speaker B: Like, you know the difference as well. Yeah, I agree with MMA.
Yeah. I don't know. It is weird.
[01:02:11] Speaker A: It's like the only sport that we care about, people getting their ass kicked.
[01:02:14] Speaker B: It is weird. But. So. So regarding caps, the future. The future. The future.
[01:02:19] Speaker A: Definitely the future of practice. Because again, there wasn't a single hat on without a guardian cap on.
[01:02:23] Speaker B: Yeah, I guess we'll see.
But that'll take us to the hot three.
[01:02:28] Speaker A: Hot three.
[01:02:33] Speaker B: All right, so we're still pretty fresh with hot three. So I'll explain it again.
[01:02:36] Speaker A: So fresh.
[01:02:37] Speaker B: This is a new segment this year where we pick a category, and we have to give our hot three or top three in that category. From there, we'll post this on social media. You guys can tell us if we're right. Wrong. What? We missed all that good stuff this week for our hot three. It's fair season in Ohio.
[01:02:53] Speaker A: Fair time. Fair time. Fair time.
[01:02:55] Speaker B: So we're going to do our hot three fair attractions, and this could be anything that happens at the fair. Literally anything. Why do you go? That's. That's the objective here. So we'll start with Bone because we're boneless this week. But he did phone in for this. Boneless wings. Well, he didn't really phone in. He just sent it in.
And so bone's hot three fair attractions. Number three, lurches. Donuts.
[01:03:17] Speaker A: Love them donuts.
[01:03:19] Speaker B: He put in parentheses here, simply delicious. He has no other argument for that other than they're simply delicious.
[01:03:24] Speaker A: I think lurches is pretty local, but I'm sure there's other, like, homemade doughnuts.
[01:03:28] Speaker B: So basically homemade doughnuts at the fair? Yeah.
[01:03:32] Speaker A: So they come right off the griddle and stuff. And it's always good, greasy.
[01:03:36] Speaker B: It don't matter where you go if you get a donut. Hot off the griddle, homemade doughnut.
[01:03:41] Speaker A: I'm about to learn to make that.
[01:03:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:03:42] Speaker A: I'll probably die.
[01:03:43] Speaker B: You probably will. You would eat seven. My, my wife often, she actually, in her phone, has a donut as, like, an emoji saved next to my name because she knows I love donuts. So they're so good. I try and avoid them at all costs because I know if I start eating them, I could eat like, twelve of them and I wouldn't even, like, feel bad.
[01:04:01] Speaker A: I was always the donut guy at work, but it wasn't because I wanted to share donuts with everyone else. It was because I wanted donuts.
[01:04:06] Speaker B: Yeah. I work in sales, so I get donuts from my customers, and it takes everything in me not to get myself a donut that day.
[01:04:12] Speaker A: It's so easy to eat, like, three donuts.
[01:04:15] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. And they have so many calories, so dense.
[01:04:17] Speaker A: They're so bad for you.
[01:04:18] Speaker B: They're so bad. Number two for the bone man potato sack slide. He said it's the best ride, probably least sketchy, which is fair.
[01:04:26] Speaker A: I can get on board with that.
[01:04:27] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. Have you seen the videos of, like, they put just like, a board under something to, like, stabilize it? It's just like the rides bouncing as people are going on it.
[01:04:34] Speaker A: I mean, Joe Dirt worked at one of those carnivals.
[01:04:37] Speaker B: You're my sister. I digress.
He also said it's fun to go on with your littles, which is probably a good point. I haven't been on the potato sack slide in a while because our daughter's probably a little too small still to go on it.
[01:04:51] Speaker A: You can probably hold her this year.
[01:04:52] Speaker B: Yeah. Did you know that slides are one of the top reasons for toddlers visiting the emergency room? Specifically, toddlers going on slides with their parents? Because what happens is their legs get rolled up underneath their parents and then just bad things happen.
[01:05:09] Speaker A: Well, that's a stupid parent.
[01:05:11] Speaker B: Well, that's fair. But I'm just saying, you know, like, you just set them in your lap and then their leg goes. But their leg goes between your legs and it gets rolled up on and bad things happen.
I'm just saying. It is. That's a fact.
[01:05:22] Speaker A: I can't even envision this happening. I wouldn't let Mike Toddler's legs fall underneath me while I was on a slide.
[01:05:28] Speaker B: Well, you're smarter than most.
But anyways, I digress. I haven't been on a potato sack slide.
[01:05:33] Speaker A: I, like, definitely rode with my mom a bunch when I was little. And I don't know, remember that being a possibility in my mind.
[01:05:39] Speaker B: I mean, that's what I thought when I heard this. This as well. But I'm just saying that's what you.
[01:05:43] Speaker A: Might as well tell me. Like, the number one reason is because they float off into space. I'd be like, yeah, that makes sense. Tyler's often just float off.
[01:05:51] Speaker B: They just float off into space.
[01:05:53] Speaker A: Thinner. And they float off into space.
[01:05:54] Speaker B: They're small and. Yeah, but anyways, I haven't been on the potato sack slide in a while. I'm sure that will be one of our favorites as soon as we start taking. Taking the little one on over her legs. Yeah, I won't do it. I won't do. I'm a good dad. I'm sorry if anybody's done that to.
[01:06:10] Speaker A: Their kids, I guess. Yeah. Apologies.
[01:06:13] Speaker B: But anyways, number one for the bone man is the draft horses, which I didn't even. I'll be honest, when I was doing my list, I didn't even think of the draft horses. But he put. They're huge, and they don't even seem real. They're just so damn cool. All right. I put the damn in there. Bone man doesn't swear, so.
He's a man of God.
[01:06:32] Speaker A: He swears if he has to.
[01:06:34] Speaker B: Only when he has to, though. It has to be necessary. I swear, all the damn time.
But anyways, I would agree with that. Draft horses are pretty phenomenal.
[01:06:43] Speaker A: Yeah. This, again, wouldn't really clock for me, but when I read it, I was.
[01:06:47] Speaker B: Like, they are pretty wild.
[01:06:49] Speaker A: Yeah, pretty neat. It's the one animal that I generally will go see at the fair, because I don't look, to be honest, I don't spend a ton of time at the barns because they smell and they're dirty and they get diseases and stuff, you know, open mouth. Like, I got no time for that.
[01:07:06] Speaker B: Agree to disagree. I like the animals, but I get where you're coming from. Like, I understand the argument.
[01:07:10] Speaker A: Like, I just like. Like, I don't know. Anyway, they're the one animal that, like, I generally will walk through the horse barn.
[01:07:17] Speaker B: You're like, those are big.
[01:07:18] Speaker A: I like, at least on the way in or the way out, I'll walk through the horse bar.
[01:07:20] Speaker B: They're just so damn majestic, too.
[01:07:22] Speaker A: Pretty majestic.
[01:07:24] Speaker B: So, yeah, so that's bone man's hot three lurches, donuts, or any doughnuts, potatoes, potato sack, slide, and draft horses. So we'll move on here. Kenny, what do you have for your hot three?
[01:07:38] Speaker A: My hot three?
Number three, counting down to one. Number three demo derby.
This is just mostly just nostalgic for me. Just memories. As a kid, for some reason, it was always important for my dad to take us to the demo derby. Often would take myself and bone or whatever friend was around at the time.
Yeah, they were a different generation that, like, worked on cars and built cars. So I think, like, they really enjoyed the demo derby. Like, and it was, like, part of my upbringing that I was supposed to, like, learn to become a man by, like, learning cars.
[01:08:08] Speaker B: You didn't.
[01:08:09] Speaker A: You didn't. I just. Mine doesn't work like that. You know? Like, my dad could look at a car, hear a noise, and go like, this is how I'm gonna fix it. Like, that whole generation, though, like, grew up just knowing how to do stuff to car.
[01:08:18] Speaker B: Just stuff like that in general. Like, just to be fair, you're not a kind of guy. Like, I'm your contractor, so I build all your things for you.
[01:08:26] Speaker A: Like, if my computer has something wrong.
[01:08:28] Speaker B: With it, you can fix that.
[01:08:29] Speaker A: I. Yeah. Like, my mind works in that. Where I'm going, what's not updated, what memory needs erased. Like, what's going. Like, I can. Like, my mind is in tune for that. But, like, cars, I couldn't tell you, like, how an internal combustion engine works like, if I had to rebuild one, like, I wouldn't. Like, there's a spark in a piston and pressure. That's like. That's. As far as my knowledge goes past that, who knows?
[01:08:49] Speaker B: It's magical.
[01:08:51] Speaker A: But anyway, I mean, my dad was always the big demo derby guy.
[01:08:54] Speaker B: I didn't mean to shit on you. You're a man.
[01:08:55] Speaker A: He was always.
[01:08:56] Speaker B: You're not. You're not less of a mandev. You don't know things about cars. Like, I still.
I don't respect you, but I still.
[01:09:02] Speaker A: Here's the thing. I learned how to do all those things right. I learned how to change my own oil, how to change brakes, how to change.
[01:09:07] Speaker B: Oh, many a night we spent it at your house, changing oil and changing tires and changing brakes and changing all kinds of stuff.
[01:09:14] Speaker A: But I hated doing it. You know? Like, I didn't enjoy. Like, I think my dad genuinely enjoyed that in the same way that, like, when something's wrong with my computer, I enjoy figuring it out and fixing it.
[01:09:24] Speaker B: Listen, I never saw a Ted light up. Like, when. When we had to do a full brake change on any of vehicle. She's like, pulled into the garage. Let's go. You guys are helping me.
[01:09:32] Speaker A: That whole generation of men, though, just. They just loved car.
[01:09:35] Speaker B: He was ready to go.
[01:09:36] Speaker A: Car mechanic stuff. So, anyway, demo derby kind of flew along with that, and he was always like, tomorrow's the demo derby. Like, let's go to the fair. And we always went when I was little.
[01:09:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:09:45] Speaker A: Number two, the rides. Oh, my God.
[01:09:49] Speaker B: Any other rides?
[01:09:50] Speaker A: I love circle rides. Circle rides to be fair.
[01:09:54] Speaker B: Circle rides. That's what's going on. The graphic is circle rides to be fair. People be like, what the fuck's a circle ride? You know, ride.
[01:10:00] Speaker A: It goes to the circle ride.
[01:10:00] Speaker B: I mean, I know what you're talking about, but, like, who categorizes them as circle rides?
[01:10:04] Speaker A: I've always categorized mysteries. Cause those are the ones that make most people sick.
[01:10:07] Speaker B: Yeah, that's fair.
[01:10:08] Speaker A: Most people don't just go, I get sick on fair rides. You get sick on a Ferris wheel? Come on.
[01:10:13] Speaker B: It is a circle ride, though. It goes in a circle.
[01:10:15] Speaker A: It gives an elevated circle.
[01:10:17] Speaker B: Still a circle.
[01:10:18] Speaker A: No, it doesn't count.
[01:10:20] Speaker B: That's all they have at the ferris. Circle rides?
[01:10:22] Speaker A: Yeah, most people don't like fair rides. Cause they all go in circles, but, like, music. Express. Bomb ass scrambler. Bomb ass tilt the world. My God, I get that thing spinning so fast.
[01:10:33] Speaker B: Was it the roundup? The one where you're stuck to the wall? That's the one. Oh, yeah, that's the one I liked when I was. When I was younger. I would just go on that thing over and over again, and I would just. You know, that was back before they had all the safety stuff, and it was literally just a chain in front of you. I just crawl all over the place in that thing, and I'm like, I don't know why they're allowing me to do this, but it was a rope. Yeah, it just hooked up, and they're like, pretty sure nobody's gonna climb out of it.
[01:10:55] Speaker A: No one's gonna fall out of this.
[01:10:56] Speaker B: Why would you attempt to climb out of the ride?
[01:10:58] Speaker A: I will say, like, to be fair, it's been a minute since, like, my adult body has been on a circle ride. I'm just.
[01:11:05] Speaker B: You'd probably get sick now.
[01:11:06] Speaker A: Big for most rides. So I don't know whether I would get sick in, like, adulthood, but, like, in early adulthood, in my, like, early mid twenties, like, I still really loved the circle rides.
[01:11:16] Speaker B: You got hard for the circle rides, so.
[01:11:17] Speaker A: Yeah, I get. Yeah, I get it. Yeah, I get it up for them.
And number one, the problem with circle rides is so many people don't like circle rides. I never had to ride with.
[01:11:28] Speaker B: I would have ride him with if.
[01:11:29] Speaker A: I get migraines or I'm gonna throw up. Bone was a huge thrower upper on the circle ride. See what? He would ride one, and he'd just like, I'm done.
[01:11:37] Speaker B: I've never lost more respect in one moment for bone than I have in this moment.
[01:11:42] Speaker A: The circle, right?
[01:11:43] Speaker B: Oh, I can't go on circle. Take some drama. Me and a man out.
[01:11:46] Speaker A: That's right.
And then number one.
I mean, let's be honest. What is it we all know? It's fair food. Fair food.
[01:11:54] Speaker B: Fair food.
[01:11:55] Speaker A: Jesus.
[01:11:56] Speaker B: I can't believe bone didn't have this as number one. This is why a fair food on here, but not as number one. Come on.
[01:12:02] Speaker A: This is why I can't ride the rides anymore, because it's fair food. Cause you gotta have a sausage, a stromboli, french fries, douse and vinegar. More vinegar than fries, really.
[01:12:10] Speaker B: By the end of all this, maybe if you're guaranteed to throw up on the circle rides, maybe you fit a.
[01:12:15] Speaker A: Corn dog in there. And then you got the desserts, a funnel cake, strawberry shortcake, hot apple dumpling. And you gotta save room for a caramel apple. And I don't know if you've seen caramel apples lately in this world, but caramel apples have gotten out of control. Some of these caramel apples.
[01:12:28] Speaker B: Caramel apples need to stop.
[01:12:29] Speaker A: They need to stop getting a little ridiculous. They got like, peanut butter, buckeye, caramel apples, cheesecake covered caramel apples.
[01:12:35] Speaker B: Kenny just walked out of the fair with a dozen caramel apples that he had.
Caramel apples. You need to eat them within like three days. So he walks out of there, he's like, I gotta eat these six, these, these twelve caramel apples in the next three days.
[01:12:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Not a joke cake. Frosting and sprinkles on the caramel. Like, all delicious, though. But they need to stop. Cause they're out of control.
And, you know, like, with all that food, like, you're probably going four large lemonades per gallon at least.
[01:13:01] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:13:02] Speaker A: And the fairs have gotten so big now, too, that you've always got your wild cards on today's fair, right? Like, there's always like a barbecue truck. Who am I to turn.
[01:13:12] Speaker B: People. Just random food trucks to show up.
[01:13:14] Speaker A: Who am I to turn down a barbecue food?
[01:13:15] Speaker B: I love barbecue.
[01:13:16] Speaker A: Like anything.
[01:13:17] Speaker B: If you don't love barbecue, just get the fuck out of it.
[01:13:19] Speaker A: And like, the deep fried oreos, buckeyes, like, yeah, like, I'm not gonna eat a deep fried buckeye.
[01:13:26] Speaker B: Have you seen him?
[01:13:27] Speaker A: Have you seen me? And then you need another lemonade.
[01:13:30] Speaker B: Yeah. To wash it all down.
[01:13:31] Speaker A: Basically. I leave the fair, like, everything is full except my wallet.
[01:13:35] Speaker B: You leave the fair about 26 pounds heavier than you came in, at least.
[01:13:39] Speaker A: And pre diabetics, diabetes, diabetics, pre diabetic fair. So I like pre diabetic now. I'm full blown diabetes at that point.
[01:13:49] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
[01:13:51] Speaker A: And there's so many good fit. It's just, I love, I love fair food.
[01:13:54] Speaker B: Hey, as far as pre diabetic, I get it. What's my, what's my weakness in food?
[01:13:58] Speaker A: Like, me, donuts, sweets.
[01:14:00] Speaker B: Just in general, I eat so much sugar, you would not believe it. And not that. That I'm telling kids, don't eat sugar like that because you only sugar or concussions. One of these days is gonna catch up with me. It hasn't yet, but it will. It will. Other, my triglycerides were super high last time, so there's that.
[01:14:16] Speaker A: That's not really a problem until it's a problem.
[01:14:18] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Right now I'm, I'm still fairly, I'm okay. I'm in pretty good health.
[01:14:21] Speaker A: I'm having angina.
[01:14:22] Speaker B: It probably contributes to my migraines. But, you know, let's not talk about.
[01:14:25] Speaker A: That when I gotta put a stent in, like, that's probably when you know it's serious.
[01:14:28] Speaker B: All right, so you got demolition derby circle rides and fair food. That's a good one. That's a. That's a good, hot three. Uh, in my hot three Ronnie jams. Hot three this week. Uh, number three. Nobody had this on there. And it's not technically a fair attraction, so it's a little bit of a cheat. But I put people watching because if you go to the fair, you see some wild fucking shit, bro. Like. Like, you see some of the craziest stuff at fairs. Like, just weird people doing weird things, and I'm here for it. Like, I go to fairs and I'm like. In some of the conversations you hear because a lot of people get blasted drunk affairs. So. And they go on rides and they do this and do that and do whatever. There's concert sometimes affairs. There's demolition derbies where people got drunk for the demolition derby.
[01:15:12] Speaker A: Concepts are the worst ones because you get, like, a bunch of, like. Like, middle aged women that, like.
[01:15:16] Speaker B: Yeah, like, it gets. It gets wild, man. So people watching for me, like, honestly, if you came with me to a fair, you could just watch my face. And I'm constantly. First of all, I'm already undiagnosed ADHD. Like, I can't concentrate. It's amazing that I do a podcast because it's amazing you do anything. Which fun fact for people at home. Just. Just focus on me. For one entire YouTube episode of our podcast, I guarantee you're gonna be like, what is he looking at? Like, what is he doing over there?
[01:15:41] Speaker A: The old Joe Biden look?
[01:15:42] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, I have no idea what's happening. But anyway. Anyways, yeah, so you'll just see if you walk around with me at a fair. Like, I'm constantly like this. I'm just like.
[01:15:53] Speaker A: I kind of do that in life.
[01:15:55] Speaker B: What's happening over there?
[01:15:56] Speaker A: My wife is always like, what are you looking? I'm like, do you not see this?
[01:16:00] Speaker B: How'd you miss that?
[01:16:01] Speaker A: Are you not seeing this guy ride this other guy? Like a caterpillar?
[01:16:04] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. So people watching for me is number three. Number two.
I went to the animals, and this was. Again, draft horses probably would have been in this spot, I'll be honest with you, had I thought of them. But instead, we just went recently, and I'm going with giant rabbits for number two.
[01:16:24] Speaker A: Okay, wait, we gotta break this down. Like a giant rabbit.
[01:16:29] Speaker B: I don't know what breed of rabbits these are, but, like, no joke, this lady brought us a rabbit. The other day at the fair, at the summit county fair, and it was bigger than my toddler daughter.
[01:16:41] Speaker A: So this is just really big rabbits.
[01:16:43] Speaker B: They're massive. They're, like, the biggest rabbits you ever saw.
[01:16:47] Speaker A: Okay?
[01:16:48] Speaker B: And they're just so big and fluffy and fat.
[01:16:51] Speaker A: All right?
[01:16:52] Speaker B: And so similar to the draft horses being just insane. Like, you look at it, and you're like, how is that even a real rabbit? Like, where did you get this rabbit? And how did it get this big?
[01:17:02] Speaker A: Fair enough.
[01:17:03] Speaker B: So I was. It was just fresh in the mind, because, again, we went to the summit county fair, and they had several of these.
[01:17:08] Speaker A: But I'll just keep an eye out for the giant rabbit.
[01:17:10] Speaker B: Giant rabbits, bro, just go. You probably won't like them because it's. You'll have to go in and see the animals, and you don't like doing that because diseases and smelly stuff and rabbits don't smell good.
[01:17:21] Speaker A: My wife had a rabbit. We need to kill it.
[01:17:25] Speaker B: We don't condone killing rabbits on this show.
[01:17:27] Speaker A: You have to kill it eventually.
But anyways, all animals die.
[01:17:31] Speaker B: We all die, okay?
[01:17:33] Speaker A: We'll all face that.
[01:17:34] Speaker B: I don't like where this is going, but anyways, look for the giant rabbits.
[01:17:37] Speaker A: Next into this world alone, and you leave it alone.
[01:17:39] Speaker B: Can I get on with my hot three?
[01:17:40] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:17:41] Speaker B: And then finally, for me, number one. You already said it. Fair food, man. We. I.
[01:17:46] Speaker A: No other. Number one.
[01:17:47] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. It's funny because I can't go with all the fair foods that I want to eat because I would die. I mean, you listed all of them. Everything that you said was delicious, but I try and limit it to, like, I don't know, two or three at each fair that I go to. And I'm like, that's all I can get, because if I get more, I'm going to die.
[01:18:03] Speaker A: Well, I think so. You, like, you said the Mandev word there. Like, you limited to two or three each fair. So you're going to multiple fairs. Yeah, I'm like, I'm making a.
[01:18:10] Speaker B: You're a one fair kind of.
[01:18:11] Speaker A: One fair kind of guy. Cause I'm gonna have everything at once, and I'm good for a year.
[01:18:14] Speaker B: Shout out to the Randolph fair. I know that's the one you're going to. Yeah, it's one of the best ones in the area. But we go to multiple just because we do enjoy, like, the animals and stuff. So it's cool. Like, the one that we shout out to the summit county fair that we just went to. They had a really good dog show, actually, where, like, the dogs were doing, like, all the tricks and doing the obstacles course and all that stuff. It was pretty cool.
[01:18:35] Speaker A: Just geographically, like, region specifically. There's weird things that happen to fairs.
[01:18:40] Speaker B: There are. There are. But so, yeah, so for me, hot. Three people watching giant rabbits and fair food.
[01:18:47] Speaker A: Do you have a favorite? Fair food, a number one favorite? Fair food, number one favorite or even, like, a top two or three? Like, what are your. What are your go tos?
[01:18:56] Speaker B: One of my go tos is funnel cakes. Yeah, funnel cake again. I got a sweet tooth. So funnel cakes for me is. I love funnel cakes.
[01:19:02] Speaker A: Chocolate frosting, a little bit of strawberry stuff.
[01:19:04] Speaker B: No, I just go, powdered sugar, man. It's just straight. Just.
Yeah, yeah. I just like it. As if.
[01:19:10] Speaker A: Funnel cake to the face.
[01:19:11] Speaker B: Yes. And I take, like, the biggest bite. I'm the guy over in the corner that's just like, shoving as big of a piece as he possibly can into his face. Like, that's.
[01:19:18] Speaker A: You put, like, an excessive amount of powdered sugar on there. Like, I'm gonna steal the rest of powdered sugar from everybody else.
[01:19:24] Speaker B: Listen, I don't, you know, I let them put whatever they want to put on there. Like what?
[01:19:27] Speaker A: Like how straight raw dog at how that comes.
[01:19:29] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. But I usually, to your point, if I see a couple different stands and I see this one has a lot more powdered sugar than that one, you'll choose wisely. Yeah, choose wisely. Smart. So. So funnel cakes is a big one for me. I really like fair fries. Just, like, for whatever reason, they do it so much better than everywhere else. Like, they just hit different.
[01:19:48] Speaker A: It's just whatever. Whether it's ketchup or vinegar, if you put it in a cup, it just.
[01:19:51] Speaker B: It's so much better.
[01:19:52] Speaker A: It just stays in there. Good.
[01:19:53] Speaker B: Yeah. So that's another one. And then I'd have to say, not technically a food, I guess, but a drink is the lemonade. You gotta have a lemonade. You gotta have lemonade everywhere.
And I hate when you get a bad lemonade. It's the worst. It's one of the worst experiences.
[01:20:08] Speaker A: Or it's too watery.
[01:20:09] Speaker B: So bad. It's one of the worst things. Cause you're like, I paid, like, $8 for this fucking lemonade. And you pay me.
[01:20:15] Speaker A: They're like, twelve now, man.
[01:20:16] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. But I'm just saying, like, it's. I hate when you get a bad lemonade. So those are probably my top three.
We got a top three inside of the hot three.
[01:20:26] Speaker A: I came home with a bunch of lemons, like, a couple weeks ago, and Christine was like, what? And I was like, I'm making fair lemonade. This is why I just wanted it so bad.
[01:20:34] Speaker B: You put, like, 14 cups of sugar.
[01:20:35] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[01:20:36] Speaker B: And then a couple squeezes of lemonade. And you got your fair lemonade.
[01:20:39] Speaker A: It was the best lemonade I ever had.
[01:20:40] Speaker B: Oh, man.
[01:20:41] Speaker A: So good.
[01:20:42] Speaker B: It is good. So that'll do it for the hot three.
Are you taking a break?
[01:20:47] Speaker A: No, I just.
[01:20:48] Speaker B: Oh, I just sound like you were trying to get out of here. That'll do it for the hot three. Let's go ahead and get in to the Nick Chubb football giveaway.
[01:20:54] Speaker A: All right, tell me about it.
[01:20:56] Speaker B: All right, so for the second offseason in a row, we are giving away some autograph brown's memorabilia. And for the second, this one. It's that one.
[01:21:02] Speaker A: Nice.
[01:21:03] Speaker B: The one right there. You can't see what I'm pointing at because you're listening. If you're hearing this on, you're listening. But on the YouTube version, you can see it. For the second year in a row, we are giving away Nick Chubb autographed memorabilia. And this year, it's a football. So again, the YouTube version sitting right in front of us, you can see this glorious football. You can see Nick Chubb signature up in that. That corner over there. Yeah.
The winner will be chosen from our YouTube subscribers. These contests are typically done for our YouTube subscribers exclusively. So I'm not saying you have to go and subscribe to us on YouTube. I'm just saying I'm going to choose the winners from YouTube.
[01:21:37] Speaker A: And again, for our listeners, not our watchers, this is a four panel, standard NFL size football has Nick Chubb's logo on the front and not Nick Chubb's.
[01:21:47] Speaker B: Logo, the Browns logo.
[01:21:48] Speaker A: Nick Chubb's signature, Brown's helmet on the front with. It's like a material, like, it's embroidered, like on the football, which is very cool. And then you have the embossing on the back that says, Cleveland Browns has the established date and all of the years of the NFL championships.
[01:22:03] Speaker B: Three white panels and then the normal leather football panel.
[01:22:08] Speaker A: Very unique and cool collector's piece.
[01:22:11] Speaker B: Absolutely. So head to our socials and keep an eye out for more information on how to earn bonus entries as well. But the main thing that you gotta remember is you gotta be subscribed to YouTube. YouTube.
[01:22:19] Speaker A: YouTube.
[01:22:20] Speaker B: Because that's who I'm choosing the winners from YouTube. There's a link in the show notes, or you could just use the handle at burning riversports cast to find us on YouTube and yeah, follow us. You might get picked to win a football.
[01:22:31] Speaker A: The good news is, if you were a longtime follower on, you're already in.
[01:22:35] Speaker B: You're already in.
[01:22:35] Speaker A: Already in.
[01:22:37] Speaker B: So with that, let's take a quick revenue break. We'll get back here and talk more about the browns. Topath distillery top at distillery an award winning craft distillery located and Akron, Ohio Topaz distillery focuses on high quality spirits carefully made in small batches. Topaz lineup includes an ultra smooth, award winning premium vodka, a small batch silver rum made from the highest grade molasses, an american craft gin made with nine botanicals and a blended straight bourbon made from corn and rye. Topath distillery. Now available locally and in 46 states. Visit Topath dash distillery.com to place your order online or find an OHLQ retail taylor near you. Topat distillery handcrafted, award winning, small batch, local and family owned all right, and so before we get to the few topics that we have to talk about in the second half of the show here, I want to talk to everybody about some upcoming events for the Burning river sports cast. We have a pretty big event coming up at the end of August here. Our first of what we hope to be many more season preview parties. It'll be at Topat Distillery, located inside the merchant Taverna in Akron, Ohio. Tickets are $35 and include party admission front row seats to watch as record our season preview episode. Meet and greets with former Browns players John Hughes and Frank Stams meet and greet with Browns on field Mc Bridget Linton autograph sessions with former Browns players again John Hughes and Frank Stams distillery tour distillery spirit tasting and then there will be additional food and drink available for purchase. So come have a kick ass time with us as we kick off Brown season again. The link to that is in our show notes. Kenny, tell them how awesome this is going to be.
[01:24:10] Speaker A: Look, I say it every week. It's one of the best restaurants in the greater Akron area, maybe in the whole state of Ohio. The food and everything is absolutely wrong. Delicious. The spirits are going to be tremendous, tremendous, top notch stuff. All their core for award winning is great, great, great stuff. So much that I'm going to drink all of it.
[01:24:32] Speaker B: You are going to drink punishment.
[01:24:33] Speaker A: So that will be one more reason to come is to watch me get blackout drunk because that's my punishment for losing last year. That and losing my hair.
Look. John Hughes, just salt of the earth kind of guy. Frank stams, hilarious. Bridget Linton just one of the most engaging personalities you'll ever meet. So we've got a great lineup of people to come hang out and just. I mean, stories and things that these guys can tell you, all of them. Really, really fun. Fun, tremendous stuff. I mean, Bridget gets into a ton of stuff with the on field antics and things that she sees. She sees a lot of behind the scenes things that no one else sees. So I know that between the three of them, like, they will keep your ears busy all night long.
[01:25:17] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[01:25:17] Speaker A: And Ronnie and I will be there.
[01:25:21] Speaker B: I don't want to say we're the star of the show, but.
[01:25:23] Speaker A: No, no. Certainly the alumni and Bridget are the star of the show. And the spirits. The spirits.
[01:25:29] Speaker B: Yeah, we actually. Yeah. That feels bad.
[01:25:32] Speaker A: Is that where we're second to Al, third to alcohol?
[01:25:35] Speaker B: Yeah, we're putting. We're putting the party on and we're.
[01:25:40] Speaker A: Not the main drill.
[01:25:41] Speaker B: No, nobody wants to see us, but come out anyways and see us.
[01:25:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:25:47] Speaker B: The tickets are very limited, so make sure you get in there as soon as possible. I know they're starting to get to the tail end of those. Get your ticket again. They're. They're $35. You got to get them soon. And then next up here, burning river sports cast will be going to New Orleans.
[01:26:03] Speaker A: Hell yes.
[01:26:04] Speaker B: So true. Fan travel, if you haven't heard, they have put together packages for away games for the Cleveland Browns so that the Browns and the dog pound can take over away cities.
[01:26:15] Speaker A: We barked together.
[01:26:16] Speaker B: Yeah. Hell yes. So I know that they have trips planned for Las Vegas, they have trips planned for Washington, they have trips planned for New Orleans, and they've got trips planned for Denver this year. So we will be partaking in the New Orleans trip. The event includes optional round trip private charter flight. That is an add on that you would be able to purchase when you purchase tickets to the event. A three night stay at the Renaissance New Orleans.
[01:26:46] Speaker A: That's a typo. It's supposed to be an r.
[01:26:52] Speaker B: Oh, it's pear market. Yeah.
[01:26:54] Speaker A: Didn't know what it was. Yeah.
[01:26:55] Speaker B: Yeah. I knew it was a typo.
[01:26:57] Speaker A: I saw it on their website. Now that makes sense.
[01:27:00] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay, so three night. It also includes a three night stay at Renaissance New Orleans pair Marquette french quarter. It's a lot better than pet Marquette.
There is a welcome party that's an all inclusive cruise down the Mississippi river with the dog pound, Q and a with Kevin Mack. A pep rally the night before, an all inclusive tailgate the day of the game. Tickets to the game at the Superdome, which is the site of the Super bowl this year, so we may have to go back another time and on site trip coordinators to handle any questions or issues that may arise while you were in New Orleans with the dog pound. So this, too. This is going to be incredibly lit. We are super pumped to be a part of this. Can't wait to enjoy the Cajun food and everything that New Orleans has to offer and see the Browns kick the Saints ass in the Super bowl.
[01:27:43] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I mean, that's a for surety. The other for surety is the fact that we're going on an all inclusive river cruise.
I don't know that I've ever, like, been on.
[01:27:52] Speaker B: We're men. That's what we do. We go on riverboat gambling. Gambling trips.
[01:27:55] Speaker A: Make our own beef jerky.
[01:27:57] Speaker B: Okay. It's not a riverboat gambling trip. It's just a riverboat trip.
[01:28:00] Speaker A: But I don't know that I ever actually been on the Mississippi.
[01:28:04] Speaker B: I don't think. I know I haven't. I don't know why I started to say I don't think I have. I know I haven't. So.
[01:28:09] Speaker A: So I'm very excited about this. I mean, this is.
[01:28:11] Speaker B: We're green. Even though we're in our mid thirties, we haven't seen as much of the country as we probably should have.
[01:28:17] Speaker A: Even outside of, like, the browns. Like, there's like, historical, like, stuff like this could be a very cool trip. I've always heard good things about New Orleans. Can't wait to partake in some of the food, whether that's crawdads or jumble eye or specifically the beignets gumbo. Be the human beignet gumbo. Yeah. I mean, yeah.
[01:28:37] Speaker B: Jambalaya and gumbo. Both those things. Jambalaya, gumbo and beignets. Those three things get me going.
[01:28:42] Speaker A: Which shrimp, too? I'm pretty sure is. Be a big down there. Shrimp, Cajun shrimp, shrimp, shrimp, shrimp stew, shrimp fried shrimp.
[01:28:51] Speaker B: Shrimp.
[01:28:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Can't wait for this. It's gonna be a hell of a trip, and we're going, so why would you not?
[01:28:58] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. One question once again. If you want to get tickets to the New Orleans trip or any of the trips from true fan travel, go ahead and check our show notes. There are links it'll take you to the New Orleans trip, but you could also navigate from there on their website to the other trips for the Browns as well.
[01:29:14] Speaker A: And you can work with true fan. Like, I think they have some different packages to. There's different, like, what fits for you.
[01:29:21] Speaker B: There's a couple different add ons as well.
[01:29:22] Speaker A: And I would say, like, just, just maybe I'm speaking out of tune here, but knowing the guys over at true fan and their team, they would, if you needed something else specific or you need some kind of special accommodation, like, I'm pretty sure they would go out of their way to make that happen for them.
[01:29:38] Speaker B: They're good dudes over there. You know, the only thing we could hold against them is that they, you know, they're from Philly.
[01:29:44] Speaker A: They killed Hitchbot.
[01:29:45] Speaker B: Yeah, but besides that, they're really good dudes.
[01:29:47] Speaker A: Yes, yes. And they. They want to make your party, your trip the best that it can be. So check them out.
[01:29:54] Speaker B: Absolutely. And so with that, let's get into a couple of these topics that we wanted to cover towards the tail end of our show here. First of all, the brand, you mentioned it earlier, Brandon Iuke, trade seems to be over the Browns. It sounds like they had a structure of a deal in place with the 49 ers.
[01:30:11] Speaker A: It was a good deal.
[01:30:12] Speaker B: It was a good deal. We had what was reported. It was Amari Cooper, a second rounder, I believe.
[01:30:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:30:17] Speaker B: For, for Brandon Iuke. And apparently, apparently Brandon Ayuk does not want to play in Cleveland because he basically vetoed this train.
[01:30:25] Speaker A: He vetoed us.
[01:30:27] Speaker B: So one, fuck you, Brandon Ayuk, and two, FM. FM all.
And two, it sounds like you may want to play for the Steelers.
[01:30:36] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:30:36] Speaker B: Even that's who I want to play for is the team with the quarterback controversy.
[01:30:40] Speaker A: Yeah, it just doesn't make any sense for an AFC north. Or like, do you want to come to the AC north in general? Like, we're not known for prolific passing in this division. So, like, why you could go to any other team and you can make a case for, like, oh, they always have a good passing game.
I don't know. Like, in recent years, you've got Joe Burrow and Lamar that have been good in the division, but the Steelers haven't had a good pass in game since, like, Ben Roethlisberger was in like his 10th season, which was like hundred years ago.
[01:31:10] Speaker B: Right? So I, as pumped as I was for Brandon, Iook when this news broke that we were one of like two finalists for potentially getting him. Like, now both those finalists are gone and apparently the Steelers have emerged as a potential spot. But I think what ultimately happens here is he stays with the 49 ers on a new deal because nobody else wants to work with him anymore. But two, as pumped as I was for this trade to begin with, now I just hate Brandon Ayuk.
[01:31:35] Speaker A: Yeah, agree. I was super excited about it.
[01:31:38] Speaker B: Anybody that spurns the Browns, like, you're dead to me. Like, just the rest of your career, you're dead to me.
[01:31:43] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you don't have to go out of your way to be like, I don't want to go to Cleveland. Like, there's other channels that you could, like, the 49 ers just could have just said, this isn't good enough.
[01:31:53] Speaker B: The only argument that I have for Brandon Ayuk is that this sounds like it was leaked by the 49 ers to, like, kind of paint him as, like, unreasonable.
[01:32:04] Speaker A: And I will say that, like, it's starting to look that way. Right? Like, that's the perception now is, like, he's. He's some kind of diva. Wants more money, wants to go to specific places.
[01:32:13] Speaker B: Hell, that's how I look at him. So if that's what you're. If it was the 49 ers, that's what they're going for. Mission accomplished. Because I don't like Brandon iuch anymore.
[01:32:19] Speaker A: Speaker zero starting to run the risk of, like, heading down an Antonio Brown path where it's like, okay, maybe he doesn't have the head injuries that he has, but. But the personality traits are similar in terms of, like, can we even work with this guy? Like, do the 49 ers want him at the end of the day? Like, if, you know, he's going to be grunted all year because he wants more money and you're just not willing to pay it for him to him right now, like, what are you. What are you doing?
[01:32:41] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. So. So, yeah. Brandon Iuke, trade. That's done and over with. It seems like that ship has sailed. It won't be coming back. But that leads us to number two here.
[01:32:51] Speaker A: I hope he gets a case of bad dreams and just can't play football anymore.
Worst dreams. He's so scared. Yeah.
[01:33:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:33:01] Speaker A: Nothing, like, physically harming him, but, like, he just gets scared.
[01:33:04] Speaker B: Yeah, we get scared forever. Just a case of the drops. Like, just drop everything.
[01:33:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:33:09] Speaker B: Like, that would be my. Like, that's what I want.
[01:33:13] Speaker A: Small victory.
[01:33:13] Speaker B: Yeah. I want him to lead the league in drops here. Yeah. But anyways, that leads us to our next one. So now, all of a sudden, CD Lamb rumors have popped up. So it seems like the browns are for sure shopping out there for a top tier wide receiver. Receiver is what it sounds like.
[01:33:29] Speaker A: But these ones came since we know they're not keeping Amari after this year.
[01:33:32] Speaker B: Right. But these actually, these rumors make sense. Even though there hasn't been a lot of firm, you know, like, like, information coming out of, like, what exactly is happening? The writing's all kind of on the wall. Is CD Lamb's very unhappy with his current contract with Dallas. He wants them to rework it. Jerry Jones came out this past week and said to. To the media he has absolutely no urgency to get a deal done. To which CD lamb replied on Twitter. Lol.
And so things are kind of heating up down there and it's just. I know this comes up because obviously we got Amari from them and we got a really good deal on Amari. So could the Browns get another top tier wide receiver from Dallas without breaking the bank? I don't think it's gonna be like Amari, but I think there's a possibility here that you could.
[01:34:18] Speaker A: You could make some browns police the Cowboys for Amari. We should throw a parade. You mean for CD Lamb? Yeah, like they did Amari.
CD Lamb has got cause as good as Amari was.
[01:34:29] Speaker B: Like, CD Lamb's on a whole other level than Amari.
[01:34:31] Speaker A: Amari's great. I look at CD lamb and I see a top three player in the NFL.
[01:34:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:34:36] Speaker A: I mean, not top three receiver, top three player, period.
Game breaker in every sense of the word. Catches. Everything can be used in every position, whether he's split out or in a slot of or even pulled in tight. Can block on run, on run support. This dude can do everything. He's special.
[01:34:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:34:54] Speaker A: The fact that Jared Jones has no urgency to get a deal done with somebody, that is insane. Is. Is this important to the franchise? I maintain he's. He's more important than Dak Prescott.
[01:35:04] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[01:35:06] Speaker A: So I just. It doesn't make any sense to me.
So, yeah, I would love for things to sour down there and for him to one out and for Jerry Jones to just say, screw it, let's get rid of this guy. Cause I'm not playing his games. Hey, Cleveland. I'm here for it. Unless he comes out and vetoes the trade to Cleveland, then I'm hate CD lamb, too.
[01:35:24] Speaker B: No, but I will say so a lot of the talk, too. There's been speculation that part of the reason that the Browns got into the 49 ers race for, you know, got involved with the 49 ers for the race for Brandon Ayuk was to kind of use it as a decoy to feel out what the market is on receivers right now and who they would have to compete with for a CD lam. There's a little bit of that there's a little bit of the fact that they were driving up the price because they knew that the Steelers were interested and they had information that Brandon Ayuk didn't want to come here anyways. So that's an angle that people are talking about to me, to be honest. Listen, I love Andrew Barry and I think he's done great things. We question a few of his things, but for the most part, I love pretty much everything he's done here.
I don't think any general manager plays that strategic of a game to where they're thinking 4567 moves ahead and they're like, well, I'm going to do this, that they do this, then ultimately we're going to get into this move and do this and like, yeah, I think it's all conjecture and all, all a stretch.
Would it be awesome if that was actually the case? Absolutely. But now you're getting into, like, the movie draft day. Like, Kevin Costner knew everything that was going to happen way down the road. That's just not real life. So I just don't buy that.
[01:36:43] Speaker A: Yeah, Siri's talking to you over there. Yeah, she was, she was admiring my shirt.
[01:36:49] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Hell yeah. Shout out to the North Jersey Brownsbackers again.
[01:36:52] Speaker A: Yeah. Dope ass. Dope ass threads.
Yeah, look again.
I also don't know, like, is ab really in the market for like, a number one wide receiver? Cause that's gonna cost, right?
[01:37:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:37:06] Speaker A: Like a guy like iuke, you could pay him an increase in salary and you could get, you could make it work. CD is going to want number one money. That is right now.
[01:37:17] Speaker B: Well, and so what you're banking on with him, right, is you're banking on if you get him in a trade like that, he's basically a rental at that point, right.
Because you might not be able to pay him number one money. Now, the other side of that is, I do know people are also saying, how do you think we don't have cap space when we were going to have cap space face for Iuk?
[01:37:36] Speaker A: Yeah, I think they would figure out the money.
[01:37:38] Speaker B: And you've said all along, too, it's, it's funny money, so it doesn't really matter.
[01:37:41] Speaker A: I think. I think, honestly, the thing that would stop them from doing that, I'm like, I don't want to go on quarterback tangents here starts, but, like, if they're not sure Deshawn is really going to be, I mean, the league is full of really good quarterbacks right now.
[01:37:58] Speaker B: There are a lot of them out.
[01:37:59] Speaker A: There that's fair, you know, like, if Deshawn can't handle the load like he used be able to.
[01:38:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:38:05] Speaker A: Like, if the load is too big, I'm a child. Way too much load.
[01:38:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. I get what you're saying.
[01:38:10] Speaker A: Load can be too big for one man.
And you have to be ready to carry the load. The whole load.
[01:38:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:38:17] Speaker A: If you can't carry the whole load, like, you're not a load master.
[01:38:21] Speaker B: Right. So.
[01:38:22] Speaker A: And they may be looking for a load master, somebody that can really carry the load. Yeah.
And so that's the only thing, because I would think that they would want to have a back pocket way to acquire a better arm. If for some reason the shot doesn't work out here. That's the only thing that I like. I would. I would feel like a be like that's a priority over having the luxury of cd lamb.
[01:38:42] Speaker B: Right. Yeah. I mean, it's. It's all interesting. I, again, I just think all of it, regardless of which angle you think, even if they, if they are involved with this in the first place, I don't even know. None of this has been confirmed. Like I said, there's not a lot of firm knowledge about this. This. It's more rumors at this point.
[01:38:58] Speaker A: Well, so this has all been right. Rumors, rumor season.
[01:39:01] Speaker B: So, um. But. But, I mean, regardless, any angle that you come from right now, it's all conjecture. Nobody knows what's actually going on with the front office and what they're thinking and how they angled this. It could be as simple as they wanted. Brandon Iook and he didn't want to be here. So in FM that I say FM f.
But anyway, so that takes us to the last subject here.
I know you were at Brown's training camp this past week with the Browns Backers president. So tell us a little bit about your time.
[01:39:31] Speaker A: Made mention about the fact that the Browns Backers president's summit was in town this week in Cleveland. So they had, obviously, a bunch of activities planned for networking and things. I know that the Browns backers presidents themselves get to meet with players and meet with Brown staff and things. So it's a week long, full events for them. Really fun and really cool. A lot of, like, nighttime events and things, too, again, for just, like, networking and having fun. I was fortunate to go with our good pal Robert from Naples to Brown's camp on was that Thursday, and a couple of things that just stuck out to me again. We were talking about the Guardian caps. I thought that was really interesting, that this was the first year that I'd seen everyone wearing Guardian caps.
We did have a Nick Chubb sighting. Was not in pads of any kind. He was in the rehab line with Dante Foreman.
[01:40:29] Speaker B: Did you just call him Dante?
[01:40:31] Speaker A: Deonta?
[01:40:32] Speaker B: Dante.
Pretty sure it's Dante.
[01:40:34] Speaker A: It's Deonta.
You see how it's spelled?
[01:40:39] Speaker B: Pretty sure it's Dante Foreman.
[01:40:40] Speaker A: Deonte formanous.
Regardless, we watched his kind of rehab assignment, which was kind of a joke, to be honest. But, like, Nick Chubb was, you know, they're clapping him around as he was doing some real light work being a leader. So that was interesting. We also got to see up close in our face, the tight ends and Joe Q, man, that sentence.
We got this. I mean, that Joku can carry the load.
Load master. That dude can really blow a load.
[01:41:16] Speaker B: What is happening right now? Oh, my God.
[01:41:19] Speaker A: Look.
And Joku, dude, like, this dude is an Adonis. Like, dude's a freak of nature. We know, but here's the thing.
He doesn't even look real anymore.
Here's what I mean is, like, these guys, like, Nick Chubb and. And Joq, like, that, are built especially for football players. You get the big caboose, right? Like. Cause it's just solid muscle back there. Cause they can run fast and jump high and just work out warriors.
Well, Njoku, also on the front side, just has, like, abs on top of abs. On top of abs. So when you see a side profile of Njoku, he's almost got an hourglass figure now because he's, like, like, round in the front. Cause he's got so many abs, and then just round in the bottom. Cause he's got so much ass.
[01:42:16] Speaker B: I never thought that when I asked you about training camp, I was gonna get a detailed breakdown of David Nujoku's body and how attractive you were to him.
[01:42:27] Speaker A: It's a bad body. I'm just saying it's so impressive. Like, his whole body.
[01:42:31] Speaker B: No, you're saying the opposite. You're saying just muscles on top of that, which. There's nothing wrong with that. You really like David n Joko. I appreciate that.
[01:42:39] Speaker A: Like, most guys that are fit, like, you get a little bit of ass.
[01:42:41] Speaker B: Going, but is he literally the opposite of you?
[01:42:43] Speaker A: But, like, on the front, like, he's washboard flat, right? Like, no. Like, Joker has so many abs that they're protruding outward now.
[01:42:51] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:42:51] Speaker A: To where he's just, like, a full on, like, s shape. He's s club seven.
[01:42:57] Speaker B: What does that even mean?
[01:42:59] Speaker A: Loadmaster.
So just, again, my point is, he was an impressive guys we, we talk.
[01:43:05] Speaker B: About getting, getting full Chubb for Nick Chubb. Kenny just took it to a whole other level with David Najoka.
[01:43:12] Speaker A: He was an impressive, imposing figure.
[01:43:15] Speaker B: That's fair.
[01:43:16] Speaker A: And he caught everything they threw at him, which was great.
And I didn't realize we were kind of like, we were watching variable before practice started, and I know he's got a title like special assistant or something, but it looks like at least on that day, he was just working with the tight end. So it's cool to see variable out there just busting those guys asses because that dude just is like, he's everything you think Mike brable would be like. He just is. He's a runner.
[01:43:43] Speaker B: He's like, he's the coach that runs.
[01:43:46] Speaker A: I've never had a coach that was like that. Like, you know, like, he's just. He runs for play. Like, he's like, he's like a player.
So it was just kind of fun.
[01:43:53] Speaker B: It's the guy you want to play for.
[01:43:54] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, guy that you're running through a wall for.
Watching the quarterbacks.
Deshawn was throwing some really, really nice balls. Jamis threw some really nice balls.
Saw a lot of during the team drills, saw a lot of Elijah Moore, which I was kind of like, this is encouraging. I think that, which is nice to.
[01:44:14] Speaker B: Hear because if you listen to the mainstream media and everything, like, you don't hear Elijah Moore's name.
[01:44:20] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, again, and this was one practice that I was at, but it just seemed like he's starting to find a home in that slot role, whereas.
[01:44:27] Speaker B: Which is exactly what we said. Right. He needs to be in the slot.
[01:44:30] Speaker A: But with, when you have a solid number one in Amari and a one a, or a two in Jerry Judy, that slot guy becomes so important because now you can stretch the field, you can play underneath.
And Deshawn really didn't take a lot of, like, first team snaps. Most of the team drills were run by Jamis, which makes sense because he started the game on two days later. So most of what we saw Deshawn do is just individual drills. So didn't see a ton of action out of the running back room. Again, there were a lot of guys that were kind of banged up that were either not in full pads or kind of in half shell was just the shoulder pads and helmet Dewan monster of a human being.
[01:45:13] Speaker B: He's a big dude.
[01:45:14] Speaker A: Not the Adonis s club seven that enjoyed it.
[01:45:17] Speaker B: He didn't get you quite as excited, but he was still big.
[01:45:19] Speaker A: But just the most massive people were like, where's Dewan? I was like, are you serious?
[01:45:23] Speaker B: Biggest guy in the field.
[01:45:24] Speaker A: That's the guy right there.
[01:45:26] Speaker B: Like, he's a whole head taller than everybody else.
[01:45:28] Speaker A: The guy is the field goal post. Like that guy.
[01:45:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:45:33] Speaker A: So, yeah, I just. It was. It was a. It was a fun day. It was cool to be out there with the browns backers themselves. We did go over and kind of, like, to the public side, where they had all the events and games and things, and kids are running the 40, and Sugar Dale's giving away free hot dogs. So it's cool to see how camp really has become very, like, youth focused. Like, it's a. It's a good time to bring your kids, I guess I'm saying bring your.
[01:45:58] Speaker B: Wife, bring your kids.
[01:45:59] Speaker A: As opposed to, like, when I first started going to camp there, there was some of that, but, like, not really. Like, it's really kind of a. You can make a day of it, I guess, if you're going out with your kids.
[01:46:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:46:10] Speaker A: Downside to camp this year, and maybe I missed this last year, was they used to have all the merchandise in, like, an air conditioned cool barn, and it was hot out there on Thursday.
[01:46:23] Speaker B: And you got a bald head, and.
[01:46:24] Speaker A: I got a bald head, and they had everything coming out of a, like, a merchandise truck, so they didn't have the barns of, which felt real bad, let me tell you. But again, overall, like, I think we saw a lot of positive things out of the team, outside of the guys that were banged up and injured. Like, Miles didn't practice. Like, he was walking around in shorts, too. And all the kids are yelling, get miles to turn around so you can take pictures and stuff and.
But all in all, very good day. Grateful to, again, Naples Browns backers Robert, for having me out. It was a lot of fun.
And then on top of that, the Brown summit continued on, which we went to then Friday night to meet with a number of presidents, just to talk through a couple of different things we got going on for this year and meet some new faces as well. It was all in all, just from my perspective. I mean, I didn't get to go the whole thing, all the events, but we had a lot of fun with the Brownsbackers presidents that were in town this week.
[01:47:20] Speaker B: Yeah, great, great time there.
Yeah, I had a ton of fun at the after party. PJ Macintyre shout out to PJ Mac tires is where the Brownsbackers presidents met up afterwards. So good time. Good time, for sure.
So that'll take us to gassed up.
All right, so this. This is a segment where we like to vent about things that are pissing us off or even something that's getting us really excited. So gast up. Let's start with, did you go first last week or did I?
[01:47:58] Speaker A: I went first.
[01:47:59] Speaker B: I'll go first this week. What's getting me gassed up? Because it's fresh on my mind because all the first week of preseason just happened is overreaction to preseason games.
[01:48:09] Speaker A: Overreaction Monday.
[01:48:10] Speaker B: Yeah. I can't stand how many people I see after preseason games. This includes, like, mainstream media, top analysts for football, like, on the big networks that you always watch. They talk, they watch a preseason game, see a little bit out of somebody, and they're like, this team has what it takes to win the Super bowl. And I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? Like, we're so early in this thing. Like, you have no idea what that team is going to do.
[01:48:35] Speaker A: Nothing's even happened yet, right?
[01:48:36] Speaker B: Like, I just don't understand it. And it goes both ways. It's like that team's going win the Super bowl. This team's garbage because they didn't perform well in their preseason game where none of the starters played.
Like, what are you talking about? It's a preseason game. The Browns lost 23 to ten. Oh, this were so bad. The defense was awful. Blah, blah. Like, are you serious? It's a preseason game. You know that, right?
[01:48:59] Speaker A: The only reasonable prediction you can make in the preseason right now, right now, that I wouldn't be like, you're insane.
As if you were, like, I think the Kansas City Chiefs could win the Super bowl again.
[01:49:14] Speaker B: Right? Cause they got everybody back from the same team that won the Super bowl last year, so. And just.
[01:49:18] Speaker A: They go every year?
[01:49:19] Speaker B: Yeah. It's like, one or two teams that.
[01:49:20] Speaker A: Are probably gonna be in the mix.
[01:49:22] Speaker B: And I'm not even talking about, like. Like, just saying that, for example, like, if it was a team that on paper could legitimately win the Super bowl and has a track record of being a solid team, like, okay, like, I'm not gonna say that's a bad take.
My problem is, like, I'm going to go with the Bengals, for example, is like, Joe Burrow comes out and looks good. So instantly, they're definitely a Super bowl contender. Like, we all thought they were. And by we all, I mean everybody except for burning for sports cast, because nobody here thinks they're a Super bowl contender.
[01:49:50] Speaker A: Wait until they have to play the Browns because Joe Barrow never looks good. Against the Browns.
[01:49:55] Speaker B: Right. So I just. I don't know. It just pisses me off. Every year I see this and every year, and it even goes down to some of the things, like I was talking about earlier in the show with some of the Browns fans saying that we need to replace the entire strength and conditioning coach, all the. All the personnel, because we had somebody get a broken ankle. Like, what are you talking. It was a preseason game. It was a freak accident. Like, just stop it. Just stop.
[01:50:20] Speaker A: People get hot.
[01:50:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:50:22] Speaker A: They've been waiting a long time to get hot, though, so that's why.
[01:50:24] Speaker B: Well, I'm getting hot about them getting hot, and they need to stop getting hot because they are too hot.
[01:50:28] Speaker A: It's just a lot of load going on.
[01:50:29] Speaker B: Nobody's hotter than red hot Ronnie Chan.
[01:50:31] Speaker A: Nobody. That's fair.
[01:50:33] Speaker B: Nobody. I'm done.
[01:50:35] Speaker A: I'm done.
[01:50:37] Speaker B: What are you gassed up about?
[01:50:39] Speaker A: The end of my load.
All right, look, here's the thing.
I got a couple here, but they're all gonna fold into one, so I'm gonna try and be brief.
I'm gonna try not to get too political.
[01:50:49] Speaker B: You love briefs.
[01:50:50] Speaker A: We already had a political topic today. Let's try and keep this less political. But it's gonna get a little political.
[01:50:56] Speaker B: I didn't like that it got sticky.
[01:50:58] Speaker A: More importantly, this weekend was the end. Oh, closing ceremonies to the Olympics.
[01:51:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:51:04] Speaker A: So this is the last of my Olympics talk for four years.
[01:51:09] Speaker B: At least two until the Winter Olympics come along.
[01:51:14] Speaker A: Our favorite fear mongers over at CNN have released studies showing that most of the world cities will be unable to host the games during summer in the coming decades, essentially from like, 2035 to 2050, that the safe threshold of humid heat will be exceeded in cities like St. Louis, Beijing, Rio de Janeiro, Athens, Rome, Tokyo, Atlanta. Just as any of the cities that might be in the mix for hosting a future Summer Olympics just say, like, the people that can't tell us whether or not it's going to rain tomorrow are telling us that in 20 years, these cities will undoubtedly be too hot for summer athletes to partake in summer sports.
[01:52:04] Speaker B: Too hot? I've never heard of such a thing.
[01:52:08] Speaker A: That's cause you're red eye Ronnie jams.
[01:52:09] Speaker B: Hell, yes.
[01:52:10] Speaker A: So that was my ridiculous story, number one. Number two, I don't know if a lot of people caught this or not, but the betting and the condition for the athletes that were there during the Olympics, did you see this?
[01:52:24] Speaker B: Was the poor.
[01:52:26] Speaker A: The beds are made of cardboard.
[01:52:27] Speaker B: Like, actually cardboard.
[01:52:29] Speaker A: Actually cardboard. So this actually, I think, started in Tokyo when they were trying to get people to stop banging so much.
[01:52:35] Speaker B: That's a whole other topic that people don't know about. They don't like to talk about it, but it's a big, big problem at the eleven.
[01:52:42] Speaker A: It was because of COVID too, is they wanted people to keep their distance. They made giving these, like, cheap, cheap ass cardboard beds. Well, they carried over the cardboard beds to the Olympics this year.
And all of their, you know, were green. So all of their cooling mechanisms were this green cooling that, like, the rooms were sweltering. It was like 85 degrees in the room. So essentially, most of the athletes were forced to bring air conditioners from other parts of the world to Paris to keep themselves cool in their room, as well as bringing extra mattress pads, pillows, because each athlete was assigned one pillow on their cardboard bed.
I mean, think about LeBron James sleeping on a cardboard bed in an 85 degree hotel room.
[01:53:25] Speaker B: Guarantee you he didn't.
[01:53:26] Speaker A: Did not happen. The us men's basketball team took one look at the conditions and they were.
[01:53:31] Speaker B: Like, no, you guys realize we're actual professional athletes. Like, we.
[01:53:36] Speaker A: They, out of pocket paid $15 million to rent a hotel for the two weeks they were in Paris.
[01:53:41] Speaker B: That sounds about right. Right.
[01:53:42] Speaker A: To have luxury beds and regular food and stuff to eat. Food was the other piece that apparently was really bad in Paris for all the other athletes. But again, the NBA guys were like, not us.
So there's that also.
Back to the sex condoms.
[01:54:00] Speaker B: Back to the sex.
[01:54:01] Speaker A: They gave away approximately 300,000 condoms.
[01:54:06] Speaker B: And they were all used not beforehand, but I. By the end of this, to give.
[01:54:13] Speaker A: Away 300,000 used condoms to the Paris athletes?
Well, no, I just thought this was like a crazy number because I start thinking about it and I go, there was roughly 10,000 athletes.
How many of them were condoms? Roughly half the males. So that's 300,000 condoms for 5000 males over a two week span. Basically, they were expecting each male athlete to bang at least four and a half, half times a day for two weeks straight.
[01:54:43] Speaker B: So much banging.
[01:54:45] Speaker A: Like, is that even, like, did no one even compute this, that this was like, on a cardboard bed?
[01:54:51] Speaker B: Like, it's probably sufficient to say, we'll give you, like, at most, like two per day.
[01:54:56] Speaker A: I don't. Like. I just. It just seems, like, excessive, right? Like four and a half a day across the board.
[01:55:01] Speaker B: Four and a half a day seems very excessive.
[01:55:03] Speaker A: Yeah, but.
[01:55:04] Speaker B: But you can't just say just the males because they had to give them to the females too, in case they found suitors that weren't other athletes.
[01:55:11] Speaker A: Okay, I guess. But like I'm saying the females can't wear them, right? So fair.
Dental dams or something.
And then finally I'm gonna wrap up my Olympics experience.
[01:55:22] Speaker B: I don't understand how these all connect, but I'm with you for those.
[01:55:25] Speaker A: I'm just pissed off about all of them.
[01:55:26] Speaker B: I'm along for the rap.
[01:55:27] Speaker A: Pissed off about all of them. That's why they connect.
[01:55:29] Speaker B: Oh, they don't connect then. Okay, go on.
[01:55:33] Speaker A: Cari Richardson. Yeah, spinner.
This one just really gets me going.
Because she was suspended in the 2020 Olympics and missed the Tokyo events for smoking weed. For smoking weed.
The man who was all over my tv for two straight weeks, the man who we opted to carry the Olympic.
[01:56:01] Speaker B: Torch into Paris is literally known for.
[01:56:04] Speaker A: For smoking weed is literally known for, like, outside of being in music, the one thing Snoop Dogg is known for is being high. Is being high all the time.
[01:56:16] Speaker B: I love Snoop Dogg, but I mean, you're not wrong.
[01:56:18] Speaker A: Nobody in the Olympics was like, we will, we will take our best athletes out of competition for this, but let them carry Olympic torch.
[01:56:31] Speaker B: Haven't they changed the rules since then? And that's not necessarily it'll keep you out of the Olympics anymore.
[01:56:38] Speaker A: I mean, for fuck's sake, I sure hope so. I don't.
[01:56:41] Speaker B: Either way, I get, I get where you're coming from.
[01:56:43] Speaker A: Just like poor optics. Optics especially for somebody like Shakari Richardson.
[01:56:47] Speaker B: When you talk about that, you missed.
[01:56:48] Speaker A: Your, like, you only get so many opportunities to participate in the Olympics and.
[01:56:52] Speaker B: She had two miss the only thing.
[01:56:53] Speaker A: For arbitrary rules on THC and weed.
[01:56:57] Speaker B: The only thing I would say is maybe the US. That's how that was their stance on it is they're like, we, this was ridiculous. So we aren't even acknowledging that. But, and the fact that like the most decorated, we don't even start on the most decorated, but the most decorated male swimmer of all time is Michael Phelps. And he also got in trouble after his career for weed and other things and took a, yeah, so I mean, bottom line is weed's not a big deal. I don't know what the fuck everybody's so up in arms about.
[01:57:25] Speaker A: I just thought like, it's like it.
[01:57:27] Speaker B: Was, it's, to your point, I understand the optics.
[01:57:29] Speaker A: Shitty for Shakara Richardson because she missed a whole Olympics over something that four years later we're like, send the highest guy in the country. That's the guy we should send.
Commentate all week long.
[01:57:43] Speaker B: Fair.
[01:57:43] Speaker A: Commentate two weeks. He'll do whatever. Because he's high.
[01:57:46] Speaker B: I will say, I actually.
I get what you're saying about the optics, but as far as just the fact that the snoop Dogg, I had, like, oh, I had no problem. The snoop was the guy and I enjoyed. He was pretty funny. Like, every time he was on the tv, I thought it was great. But have you ever seen somebody that.
[01:58:01] Speaker A: Was high that wasn't.
[01:58:02] Speaker B: No, no.
They're all so happy.
[01:58:05] Speaker A: I mean, in this case, this made this woman run faster.
[01:58:08] Speaker B: Yeah, she was phony as hell. Apparently, that's what they argued.
[01:58:11] Speaker A: She was phony as hell running past everybody else.
[01:58:15] Speaker B: I did like in these olympics, the relay, when she stared down the girls as she was going through the fence. Yeah, I mean, that's right.
[01:58:23] Speaker A: She earned that.
[01:58:24] Speaker B: She earned it.
[01:58:25] Speaker A: Yeah, she earned it. But anyway, I agree. That's my, my, the end of my olympics is just the.
[01:58:32] Speaker B: You were so gassed up at the.
[01:58:34] Speaker A: End of the olympics, absolute just irony and just ridiculousness that is anyone at this point in the world, that's like weed.
[01:58:46] Speaker B: Yeah, that's.
[01:58:47] Speaker A: Get out of my.
[01:58:48] Speaker B: Get out. Get out.
[01:58:49] Speaker A: Get out.
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[01:59:28] Speaker A: Go get them.
[01:59:29] Speaker B: And that'll do it for us. Kenny, what can we expect next week?
[01:59:33] Speaker A: You can expect a hell of a show. Hopefully. Hopefully preseason week two is a little more exciting. Hopefully somebody does something besides just losing.
[01:59:42] Speaker B: Losing.
[01:59:44] Speaker A: I don't care if we lose, but, like, just do something besides losing. So we'll be catching you up on preseason week two and the latest training camp and preseason happenings. Also, don't forget to check out our social media for upcoming events and daily browns news as we are one week closer to meaningful football.
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All right, so facts for days. What do you got for us today, Kenny?
[02:00:45] Speaker A: Facts for days.
I've got some facts.
[02:00:51] Speaker B: You wanted. You wanted to announce it again?
[02:00:53] Speaker A: I don't have any facts because my note just shut down. So. Hold on.
Slide tactical difficulty here on the bread of river sportscast. All right, we're back. We're back. And we are in action.
Facts for days.
In keeping with our theme of the show earlier, their hot three. Okay, I went to the fair.
[02:01:19] Speaker B: Oh, nice. I didn't even know that when I made that. The hot three.
[02:01:24] Speaker A: So legend has it, number one, legend has it that Elvis oh sang in the youth talent show at the Mississippi Alabama fair and dairy show.
Not only did he not win, he came in fifth place, the king.
[02:01:43] Speaker B: Fifth.
[02:01:44] Speaker A: Now granted, he was only ten at the time, so there's still room for improvement. But just to think that Elvis, why they regarded as one of the greatest.
[02:01:53] Speaker B: How about a few years later, that fair, those judges, they felt like idiots, or they word as a badge of honor. They're like, one time I gave that kid fifth.
[02:02:06] Speaker A: We didn't like the way he was shaking his hips.
[02:02:09] Speaker B: That's the devil's music.
[02:02:11] Speaker A: I maintained this because he hadn't met Forrest Gump yet and hadn't learned to dance.
But number two, that was a good joke. You didn't laugh at it? Fuck you.
[02:02:20] Speaker B: My wife texted me at the same time she interrupted the show. What did you say?
[02:02:23] Speaker A: I said, I maintain it's because Forrest Gump hadn't yet taught him how to dance.
[02:02:27] Speaker B: Fair.
[02:02:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Number two, at the Texas State fair.
[02:02:31] Speaker B: Not your best, but it was still funny.
[02:02:33] Speaker A: You'll find, among other things, fried beer.
[02:02:39] Speaker B: How is that possible?
[02:02:41] Speaker A: So you don't have to stop drinking just because you're eating.
Yeah, that was. That was. Yeah. They must just like freeze it in beer cubes.
[02:02:55] Speaker B: I am having a seriously hard time even understanding how that's a thing.
[02:03:00] Speaker A: I've never seen it at our fairs, but apparently in Texas it's a. It's a big thing. It's fried beer.
[02:03:04] Speaker B: They do lots of. Everything's bigger in Texas.
[02:03:06] Speaker A: Everything's bigger in Texas. Number three, get ready. Pull your shorts up, you might lose them. It's a big load.
[02:03:14] Speaker B: Number three, let's hear it?
[02:03:17] Speaker A: I don't even know how this is legal. Number three, pigeons.
[02:03:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
[02:03:25] Speaker A: Are rolled for sport in Iowa State fairs.
[02:03:30] Speaker B: Wait, if you.
[02:03:32] Speaker A: Listen. If you toss a pigeon just right, they flop end over end like a bowling ball. So, naturally, people do this competitively. Yeah. It was day terror.
[02:03:45] Speaker B: PETA know about this?
[02:03:49] Speaker A: So, like, I was. I read this, and I was like, no. So I googled it.
[02:03:53] Speaker B: Wait, is there videos of.
[02:03:54] Speaker A: This is a thing. There are specific pigeons.
[02:03:57] Speaker B: Remember last week we talked about me getting lightheaded for certain things? Like, I am. That must have struck a cord in my body because it shook me to my bones and created some sort of blood clot? Because I am getting incredibly lightheaded right now just thinking about how you toss up pigeons.
[02:04:15] Speaker A: That are meant for rolling and others that aren't. So there are actual roller pigeons, and they raise them just to be rolled.
[02:04:23] Speaker B: Wait, a roller pigeon is a thing.
[02:04:28] Speaker A: Just kind of bowling ball it, and they just.
[02:04:31] Speaker B: Here's what I. Here's my question. You said if you roll them just right. If you don't roll it right, do they just flop?
[02:04:38] Speaker A: It's like. And roll around till they stand up.
[02:04:41] Speaker B: I am.
[02:04:46] Speaker A: I don't know how to, like, pull a video into the dark video yet. I'll see if I can, just for this segment. But there's videos of rolling pigeons.
[02:04:53] Speaker B: Oh, my God.
[02:04:55] Speaker A: I just don't understand how this is even a thing.
[02:04:57] Speaker B: Like, again, I go back to. Has PETA. Does Peter know about this, or is it Iowa? You said, is it. Because in Iowa, nobody knows what's happening out there. Like, it's Iowa, they. Nobody knows what's going on in Iowa. Everybody knows they have corn out of it. Like what?
[02:05:13] Speaker A: I was known for two things. Corn caucuses.
[02:05:17] Speaker B: Oh, I thought it. I thought number two was gonna be pigeon rolling.
[02:05:20] Speaker A: Well, nobody knows about pigeon rolling.
[02:05:22] Speaker B: What the hell is even. What are you doing, Iowa? What is happening out there?
Oh, my God.
That sounds violent.
[02:05:33] Speaker A: Yeah, it's.
[02:05:34] Speaker B: Apparently, they don't get how many pigeons per year die from pigeon.
[02:05:38] Speaker A: I didn't see those statistics. I don't know where you're getting your statistics. Pigeon's dying, so it's a problem. Don't just be a part of the problem. Be the whole damn problem.
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[02:06:23] Speaker B: So put your right foot in and take your right foot out. Then put your right foot in and shut the hell up. Because it's not time for the hokey pokey. It's time for the burning river sports cast.
[02:06:34] Speaker A: I now have two loves in my.
[02:06:37] Speaker B: Life, big city living and a voodoo woman named Phyllis.
[02:06:42] Speaker A: Motorboat.
[02:06:43] Speaker B: You play the motorboat?
You motorboat, you old seal.
[02:06:48] Speaker A: Are you. You know, I was thinking during that interview.
[02:06:50] Speaker B: What? What were you think? Nothing. Cause you don't have thoughts. Cause you're a brainless idiot.
[02:06:55] Speaker A: Wow.
[02:06:56] Speaker B: My name is Uhtred, son of Uhtred. By the way, I want my foreskin back. It doesn't matter what you think.
[02:07:02] Speaker A: Women's guide to. To anal sex. And it was the second edition. Who makes the second edition? The weather.
[02:07:09] Speaker B: Outside is weather. The other one, the finger. The finger eating food fingers.
[02:07:13] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[02:07:15] Speaker B: My house is full of shit. He's shit everywhere.
[02:07:19] Speaker A: Yes. Ejaculate all over my body and my genitals.
[02:07:22] Speaker B: Yes. Oh, no.
[02:07:24] Speaker A: We suck again.
[02:07:25] Speaker B: You don't need fundamentals when you got heart.
[02:07:28] Speaker A: And Jesus.
[02:07:29] Speaker B: And Jesus. Touchdown.
[02:07:31] Speaker A: Anyway, what do you mean, funny? Funny how? How am I funny?
[02:07:34] Speaker B: It's going down. I'm yelling timber.
[02:07:38] Speaker A: Goddamn jets.
[02:07:40] Speaker B: Are we gonna.
[02:07:41] Speaker A: You're only in this.
[02:07:42] Speaker B: Did we start a meat podcast like the meat pod?
Slow roasted.
[02:07:50] Speaker A: The leads are weak. The leads are weak? Fucking leads are weak. You're weak. That we should send a team of oil core drillers a la Armageddon to Mars to have them access the newly discovered reservoirs of water traps seven to 12 miles on the surface that, when released, will cover the entirety of everything on the planet less than a mile high.
[02:08:05] Speaker B: All I do is win, win, win no matter what. Erroneous. Erroneous on both counts. Oh, lord. I mean, when I. Last year when I went home, you know, my wife's pants hit the ground.
[02:08:15] Speaker A: Wow.
[02:08:16] Speaker B: But damn.
[02:08:16] Speaker A: I'm sorry, I hijacked your segment for a second to do some good podcasting.
You know why, mister? Cause you drove a Hyundai to get.
[02:08:25] Speaker B: Here tonight, I drove an $80,000 BMW. That's my name now. I think we've officially lost all of our more conservative viewers.
I don't think they want to listen any longer. It's Mother Nature. I live my life a quarter mile at a time.
[02:08:41] Speaker A: Where's logo girl when you need her?
[02:08:42] Speaker B: I desperately want to make love for this. Cheese.
[02:08:44] Speaker A: We need cheese girl. Now, who's canceled now? Who's canceled now? Probably you, making it full of fat people.
[02:08:56] Speaker B: I'm not just you.
[02:08:58] Speaker A: We're a whole race, basically.
[02:09:01] Speaker B: No way. She's just straight. Just finger banging her salad.
You first get shocked, and then you get the shocker.
[02:09:12] Speaker A: Hey, you like to see almost naked?
[02:09:14] Speaker B: That's cool, man.
[02:09:14] Speaker A: Whatever. No, no, no.
[02:09:16] Speaker B: Most people, like, they're driving along and they're like, in between meals. I'm a little hungry.
[02:09:20] Speaker A: I'm gonna have a granola bar.
[02:09:21] Speaker B: And he's like, I need a cheeseburger.
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