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It's time, time for the Burning river sportscast. It was a beautiful Sunday afternoon that led to a dreadful performance. The Cleveland Browns played football the same way. Ronnie Jambs pleasures a lady poorly. The defense started fast, but the offense had no game. The offensive line was offensive and missed key blocks all afternoon. What we thought was a complete wide receiver room had a hard time catching completions. The running game was simply non existent. Injuries piled up and the elephant in the room, QB number one, continues to look like a well dressed pop Warner third Stringer holding the ball too long, not seeing wide open receivers and poor decision making plague this afternoon. And with the offense on three and out protocol, your best defensive athletes were neutralized early on in this game. Got out of hand quickly by a Cowboys team that looked, again like Ronnie's lovemaking, less than impressive. The good news is week one was so bad across the board, there's nowhere to go bought up. The bad news is your quarterback is once again being sued for sexual assault. What's next for the up on the shelf? We'll break it all down for you next on the burning river sportscast.
[00:02:25] Speaker B: I know it's Defcon five here in Cleveland. Everyone's full blown panic mode.
[00:02:29] Speaker A: Like I said, that's defensecon. It's backwards.
We'd be at one. Five's the neutral state.
[00:02:39] Speaker B: All right. Ok. We're at Defcon one here in Cleveland.
[00:02:43] Speaker A: Deshawn's done. He's washed.
[00:02:45] Speaker C: He threw footballs in the dirt, behind receivers, into the stands, onto the sidelines.
[00:02:50] Speaker B: Not going to get into the actual lawsuit and the verbiage used in it, but I encourage listeners and viewers to read it for themselves. And with that, I will say, viewer and reader discretion is advised.
[00:03:03] Speaker A: I mean, I'll say it. I mean, I think it's time that we start calling a spade a spade. Like, this is part of the reason that this has gone on so long and it's gone unchecked is because no one will say that this guy's mo is to show up at women's houses or apartments, wait for them to leave the room, strip naked, and turn over with an erection and say, rub this. The more that we. The more that we hide from it, the more that we can pretend like this isn't a big deal. And as bad as the browns have it, and as bad as Deshawn has it, there's actual victims out there that have it much worse.
[00:03:34] Speaker B: Did you say that that's his name? That's what he calls himself.
[00:03:38] Speaker A: Sounds really risky, man.
[00:03:40] Speaker C: Cornhuskers are back.
[00:03:42] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm part founder of this country.
[00:03:45] Speaker B: Since when?
[00:03:47] Speaker C: Big time.
[00:03:52] Speaker B: Most devastating move.
[00:03:55] Speaker A: Welcome into the burning river sportscast, presented by the fine folks at tap in media. I'm Kenny Thunder. Red hot Ronnie James is back in the hot seat today, fresh off a wedding west coast campaign stop. How about some quick hypnosis to welcome you back? When I snap my fingers, you'll forget that you were ever gay.
[00:04:12] Speaker B: Thank you.
[00:04:18] Speaker A: No objections there. Just. All right. Back on the board today.
[00:04:22] Speaker B: I just hate you.
[00:04:23] Speaker A: Hardcore crossfitter and not a spitter. He's no quitter. The big bone. Man bone. Did you ever hear about the guy who was shooting his gun at the Saguro cactus and a piece of it fell onto him and crushed and killed him?
[00:04:36] Speaker C: How big was this cactus?
[00:04:37] Speaker A: These Sagreto cactuses get 43.
[00:04:40] Speaker B: They're really big.
[00:04:40] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:04:41] Speaker B: Really, really big.
[00:04:41] Speaker A: The piece that fell on them weighed, like, 500 pounds.
[00:04:43] Speaker C: I've never heard of him.
[00:04:44] Speaker A: Instantly crushed him. Yeah, there's no allegory here or anything. I just wondered if you heard the story.
[00:04:48] Speaker C: Nope.
[00:04:49] Speaker A: I mean, I guess you could, like, make one up about being kind to nature or something, but that really wasn't the point I was trying to make. I just. I mean, I don't, you know. Fuck it. Cut all the cactus down. They sound dangerous.
Back to red hot.
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[00:05:09] Speaker B: First of all, you listen here, you major piece of trash.
My lovemaking is so good. I have a child.
[00:05:15] Speaker A: That doesn't mean your lovemaking was good. It just means you made it to completion.
[00:05:18] Speaker B: She liked it. I swear.
[00:05:19] Speaker A: You made it to completion, is all.
[00:05:21] Speaker B: Anyways, I hate you.
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A couple show notes from last week since I wasn't here.
One, I heard your apology, Kenny. First of all, fuck you.
Yeah, next time, maybe you'll listen to me when I say things, but we all know that Kenny Thunder is always right.
Except in this instance, I owned up to it. So after my first of all, fuck you. Second, thank you and I appreciate your apology. I guess I will accept that.
Next up, Bone. I do have a critique. Kenny opened the door for so many big man jokes, and you just left it wide open and didn't take the bait on any of them. Especially during the hot three tailgate food segment.
You got to jump on those, man. So it's rookie mistake.
[00:06:49] Speaker C: Not quick on my feet.
[00:06:50] Speaker B: No, no. What do you knew? And speaking of hot three, Kenny backing me up with Chili after Bone. Shit on it. Really appreciate it. That was nice.
[00:07:01] Speaker A: I love soup.
[00:07:02] Speaker B: Yeah. And finally, bone.
I can't believe you didn't know that Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to start and win a Super bowl. That's a really bad job out of you.
[00:07:11] Speaker C: I still don't know. I don't even remember him saying that name.
I apologize to Doug Williams.
[00:07:18] Speaker A: I wanted to put that in the show, but I was editing the show. I had to put it in the open. Cause it was just so funny. I got no clue who that is, but I was already done with the open by the time I got to that.
[00:07:27] Speaker B: Just a bad job out of him. But on today's show. Today's show show. This is what you can look forward to. We got a week one recap, the hot three, an interview with the PGCC brownsbackers. We'll let you know who they are. Coming up here soon. King of the north gassed up week two preview and oh, so much more. So follow me if you want to live. We need to get back to Zachapa because I am back, baby. Now let's get us started with the burning of our news story of the week.
[00:07:53] Speaker A: The worst impression on this podcast ever.
[00:08:07] Speaker B: Hey, bone. Yo, you gonna transition us?
[00:08:12] Speaker C: Oh, sorry.
[00:08:16] Speaker B: Nice.
[00:08:17] Speaker C: Yeah, we're there.
[00:08:17] Speaker B: All right, so this week for the burning of our news story of the week. I don't know if you guys saw this. I'm sure you did. Everybody did. Tyreek Hill was detained before the game this past week during what would typically be a routine traffic stop.
[00:08:30] Speaker A: National news.
[00:08:31] Speaker B: Yeah. So it made national news. There's kind of been a lot of back and forth between the police officer and his representatives and Tyree kill and his representatives, the team, the police department, just been back and forth, like.
And it's been kind of weird because, like, nobody wants to come out and say, fuck you, you were wrong. Everybody's just kind of like, well, we really appreciate the police department and all they do, but they were clearly wrong in this instance.
[00:08:57] Speaker A: Tyree Crown came out today and at least called for the guy's job.
[00:09:00] Speaker B: His. No, his agent did. Drew Rosenhaus did. It wasn't even Tyreek. So, I mean, he's not wrong.
[00:09:08] Speaker A: Look, I mean, in these scenarios, they tend to get blanketed. Like, it's just the monolith, right? Like, african american driver gets pulled over. Like, isn't. Like everybody thinks of them as the same.
And, you know, I'm kind of. Of the mindset of, you know, no matter who you are, when you get pulled over by a copy, you roll your window down and comply.
In this scenario. I mean, maybe Tyree Rico was a little slow to follow orders, but it didn't seem like he was being combative or combative in any way. And even if you are combative, and even if you do have an ego and you come into this conversation, that's still not a reason for a cop to throw you to the ground, put a knee in your back, and handcuff you.
[00:09:49] Speaker B: The one dude. Yeah, I was gonna say the one dude. Like, kicked him.
[00:09:51] Speaker A: Didn't like. The job of police officers in this country should be to de escalate situations, not just to immediately arrest you.
So you are here to be arrested. Yeah. So even if someone is being slightly combative. And again, which case? In this case with Tyreek, I don't think he was.
[00:10:09] Speaker B: No. And even if the. At the very least, you'd be able to argue that he was being somewhat verbally combative.
[00:10:16] Speaker A: Sure.
[00:10:16] Speaker B: Versus. But again, I think it never got physical. Nothing ever happened.
[00:10:20] Speaker A: The police officer. Yes, verbally first. And make warnings before you do things like pull somebody out of the car. You can't just say, get out of the car now. Oh, you didn't get out of the car. Well, I'm gonna drag you out. Like, that's not how that works.
[00:10:33] Speaker B: It's funny because in the video, the cop actually says. He goes, if I have to tell you again, you're gonna, you know what? Get out of the car.
[00:10:38] Speaker A: Yeah, right, right. There was no.
[00:10:40] Speaker B: And Tyree kill even explained to him at one point, he's like, no. Like, guys, I can't keep. Like, the reason I'm not keeping my window down is because there's gonna be cameras everywhere if I roll my window down. And, like, we. That's why I'm doing this.
[00:10:53] Speaker A: It's also. Miami also had his air on. It's 100 degrees. You're in a traffic stop. It's gonna reason 20 minutes to get out of.
[00:11:00] Speaker B: And it's not like you couldn't see through it. Like, sure, his windows were tinted, but you could clearly see through his window in the video.
[00:11:05] Speaker A: And when the officer came back to his window, he cracked his window so he could talk to him. You know, I have a huge problem with it. You see these videos in Internet all the time where it's like, people just want to crack the window. I can hear you, I can see you, and I can hear you through the crack of window. I don't have to have my window all the way down. There's no legal precedent for have to roll my window all the way down. If you can see me and I can see you, and we can have a conversation, we can get through this ordeal safely for both of us before anything gets out of control. And this thing just went from zero to 100 so fast.
[00:11:33] Speaker B: Well, then they ended up detaining Kalais Campbell, and there was another, like, backup Williams.
[00:11:38] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:39] Speaker B: That they detained. And it's, like, all because they stopped, basically, which I get, like, they got to keep them away from the situation just because you don't want to add more fuel to the fire. But, like, at the same time, why. Why are you detaining these guys? First of all, you wrongly detained Tyree kill, and then you detain these guys for just stopping and making sure everything was okay.
[00:11:57] Speaker A: Well, right. And I think those guys were doing the same thing that, like, any of us would have done. Right?
[00:12:01] Speaker B: Like, if I saw you got pulled, you're on the ground.
[00:12:03] Speaker A: I'm, like, handcuffed. I'd be like, whoa. Like, that's my dude. Like, I know he wasn't trying to. Like, he did. It's not like he ripped off a liquor store like, he was going to work.
[00:12:12] Speaker B: And none of the. The reports say that, like, kalais Campbell came in and was like, you get off of him. He came in and was like, hey, what's going on?
[00:12:19] Speaker A: They were like, guys, like.
[00:12:22] Speaker B: You'Re detained, too.
[00:12:25] Speaker A: Yeah. And I'm just almost like, when you. When this whole thing started, and I don't know if they've said yet, outside of the fact that he was recklessly driving. Like, recklessly driving, to what extent was he doing 145 and a 40 right to the. To the. There's.
[00:12:42] Speaker B: There's my guess he was probably going, like, 20 or 30 over because he was trying to get to the football game.
[00:12:45] Speaker A: I don't care if you're doing 65 and a 40. Like, there's no reason why you should ever end up on the ground in handcuffs.
[00:12:51] Speaker B: Right, bone?
[00:12:52] Speaker A: It's just not a thing that should happen.
[00:12:53] Speaker B: Do you have thoughts on all this?
[00:12:56] Speaker C: I wonder? How fast did he pull over? Did he drive a little bit too long after they threw the lights on or whatever? Or.
[00:13:03] Speaker A: Yeah, like, at the beginning of this, like, we're kind of missing that piece of the timeline, because basically we have.
[00:13:09] Speaker B: From when the cop walked up to the car.
[00:13:11] Speaker A: Yeah. And from. From everything that I've seen on the body cam footage, like, it's egregious. So the way they handled the situation, like, it's pretty.
[00:13:19] Speaker B: From. From that video, which they released, is cut and dry.
[00:13:22] Speaker A: Like, give a guy essentially a speeding ticket.
[00:13:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:24] Speaker A: I mean, it's just not. It's not worth it. And to be fair, like, there has been a number of these stops that didn't go well for other people. And Tyree Kill's point was like, what if I wasn't Tyree kill? What if my two offensive defensive linemen that got out of the car where we're like, hey, what's going on? There shouldn't be anything wrong here. What if they weren't there?
[00:13:44] Speaker B: There have been a number of incidents, and obviously, they've. They've drawn a lot of media attention and things like that, but I think that that's a truly, like, that just is going to ring in people's ears for a long time. Like, what if I wasn't Tyree kill?
[00:13:58] Speaker A: Right, right. Because at some point realize, like, okay, I've detained an NFL player that's on his way to the stadium for a.
[00:14:04] Speaker B: Game, and they just let him go from there.
[00:14:06] Speaker A: And so you kind of go like, oh, geez. But, yeah, I mean, had he not been Tyreek, like, those guys went zero to 100 so fast for no reason.
[00:14:14] Speaker B: And I'm, you know, me personally, I'm with Tyree kills representatives like cops like that they don't need to be on the force. And I know, I know personally know cops that they won't admit it, but the whole reason they're on the police force is because they want to have that power, whether they were, they were bullied when they were younger or they just have some sort of ego trip that they're on, that they want to flex their muscles and show everybody that they're hot shit. Like, that's what they're doing it for.
And I'm not.
That's an anecdotal story. That's a small minority of cops. I think the vast majority of them are great cops and do do good things. But there is, and I think we could all agree there are cops that are doing it for 100% the wrong reason.
[00:15:02] Speaker A: Well, when you see a cop that reacts to that negatively that quickly, like, that's somebody, you're far too aggressive to be on the police force because your job is to protect and serve. It's not just to arrest.
[00:15:13] Speaker B: I think that I'm, again, talking specifically about that, that small minority of police officers, but that's what they forget is they're there to protect and serve. They're not there to have the power.
[00:15:23] Speaker A: And I also know that it's a difficult job. Right. I mean, we've talked about, like, most cops are good cops, and that's fine. But, like, the thing is, is you're, you're trained, you're equipped. Like, this is the job. No one's forced you into this job. And if you're afraid for your life, fine, don't do that job. I get it's a tough job, but the job is to protect the community. It's not, it's not about anything else. So if you're not confident in your ability to de escalate situations and, and use force as a last result, and really, you should only be using force to meet force. Right. You don't just get to use force because you feel like you're a rope. Your force is used to meet force where they physically combative, you know, person that is broken the law or you've assumed it's broken the law.
The use of force in any other case is unfounded.
[00:16:14] Speaker B: Yep. Bone, last word on this.
[00:16:18] Speaker C: I don't know enough. I don't know that's fair. Yeah. I don't know enough.
[00:16:22] Speaker B: That's fair. Yeah. I mean, we could talk all day about, you know, whether or not police officers use too much force and whatever, but bottom line is that I'm glad this is being investigated. I'm glad we're all gonna find out eventually. Exactly, you know, what could have or should have been done differently.
[00:16:36] Speaker A: I think a lot of these cases have a lot more gray area. This one, just to me, with what was caught on video was pretty cut and dry. Pretty cut and dry, yeah.
[00:16:43] Speaker B: And so with that, let's talk about our Nick Chubb football giveaway.
And for. Go ahead. But. And for the second year in a row, we were giving away some autographed browns memorabilia. This year, Nick Chubb autographed football. And the winner has been chosen.
[00:17:00] Speaker A: Chosen.
[00:17:01] Speaker B: Drum roll, please.
YouTube subscriber Cameron I. Savage has won the Nick Chubb autographed football. We'll be getting this thing sent out ASAP. We wanted one more week with it on our desk.
[00:17:15] Speaker A: It is a nice centerpiece. I'm going to miss it when it's gone.
[00:17:18] Speaker B: We will be doing an interview with Cameron later in the season so he can tell you in his own words how dope this thing is. But once again, thank you to all our YouTube subscribers for supporting us. We're steadily growing. We appreciate each and every one of you. And stay tuned. We'll have future giveaways that are geared towards our YouTube subscribers.
[00:17:36] Speaker A: FYI, this was Cameron, I believe, had a ton of extra bonus entries, right?
[00:17:41] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So obviously, as we mentioned, as we mentioned all through this, being subscribed on YouTube is all it takes to get entered. But there were ways if you went to our website and clicked on the link in the show notes and everything else, that you could earn a bunch of bonus entries. And he did basically all of them. Like, he, I mean, there's a reason he won this thing, is he, he shared a ton of our content. He did a lot, which we appreciate.
But yeah, stay subscribed. Don't forget to, like share and turn on notifications so you'll know every time we drop new videos. And with, and obviously you'll be getting all the best browns content. We got a lot of stuff going on, a lot of new things for this season, so stay tuned. But with that one last thing before we get to the browns, let me remind you to call the burn river sportscast hot take hotline hotline take out. Remember, we want you to call the burning river sportscast hot take hotline and leave your hot takes on that hot take hotline. These are hot takes. We want hot takes.
[00:18:34] Speaker A: We want hot takes. We want hot takes. We want hot takes. 3302-2780-8033-02 27 80 80 33 02-2780-8033-0227 eight call now.
[00:18:49] Speaker B: Operators are not standing by because it's an answering machine. It's a voicemail. I guess answering machines aren't a thing anymore, but it's a voicemail call now. Yeah, but, yeah, let's go ahead and get into the week one recap.
All right. The week one recap. Let me just start by saying this. What just happened?
Like, seriously, coming into this season, if I could cook up a single scenario that could completely crush the heart and soul of Browns fans after just a single week of football that didn't involve significant injuries to multiple players, I would have a hard time doing that.
[00:19:41] Speaker A: The Browns one did include significant injuries ish.
[00:19:45] Speaker B: I mean, you talk about Njoku.
[00:19:47] Speaker A: I'm talking about like, we just added like four people to the IR this week.
[00:19:49] Speaker B: Yeah, but anyway, not like super. Anyways, listen, the Browns took that question, though, of what scenario can you come up with to crush the heart and soul of Cleveland Browns fans everywhere after just one week? And they said, hold my beer.
Let me, let me just take care of this. And I know there's plenty to talk about and we'll get into it all the, all the off the field stuff that happened even after the game. We'll get into that as we go. But let's start with our opponents in this game. The Dallas Cowboys will start with their offense. Dak Prescott, 1932, 179 yards, a touchdown, no interceptions, one carry for three yards, didn't do much.
[00:20:27] Speaker A: If you told me Dak Prescott was going to throw for 179 yards, that I told you that we probably won this game by three scores.
[00:20:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Ezekiel, you think he had a big day, right? Wrong. Ten carries, 40 yards, one touchdown, two receptions, nine yards.
Not much.
[00:20:40] Speaker A: Putrid.
[00:20:41] Speaker B: CD Lamb, you think he must have had a big, big day, right? Well, remember that deck press got only through for one touchdown. Guess what? Not to CD Lamb. Five reception, 61 yards, three carries, 25 yards. Interesting that they gave him three carries.
[00:20:54] Speaker A: But yeah, well, we couldn't stop the end around. So true.
[00:20:57] Speaker B: Yeah. And then finally, Brandon cooks. Four receptions, 40 yards and a touchdown. So their offense didn't do much.
[00:21:04] Speaker A: And really, that touchdown was what started the whole, what started the route. I mean, that was a blown coverage and nobody home.
We'll talk about Deshawn men, but I just, they have thoughts on that touchdown in general.
[00:21:19] Speaker B: That's fair. And let's talk about their defense. Their defense had six sacks, so that's a big number that, that plays a lot into why the score was what it was.
And they also forced two interceptions. And I use the word forced lightly.
[00:21:34] Speaker A: We suck.
[00:21:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
And then for special teams, Brandon Aubrey, four, four field goals, all from 40 plus yards, two from 50 plus yards and along of 57. And then he was three of three on his extra points. That's an impressive, impressive showing at Huntington Bank Field. Yeah, you heard that right.
[00:21:53] Speaker A: I guess.
[00:21:53] Speaker C: What was the, how long was the one he or he made but didn't count?
[00:21:58] Speaker B: I think that was 66.
[00:22:00] Speaker C: That's what I thought.
[00:22:01] Speaker B: That was wild. Yeah.
[00:22:03] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:22:04] Speaker B: So impressive showing by, by Brandon Army. I mean, he was basically their whole team. That's, let's see, the 1215 of the 33 points, almost half the points.
[00:22:13] Speaker A: So Brandon Cooks and Zeke Elliott were the other two touchdowns. So.
[00:22:18] Speaker B: And then finally. So, I mean, that's their whole team, though. So they didn't, I mean, they didn't do anything to win the game necessarily.
[00:22:24] Speaker A: They were just there. They were just an opponent that was. There could have been anybody. They didn't play that well. They were not impressive in any phases of ball. I mean, special teams. I guess you can see he was perfect. But it, I mean, I came in like, I don't even remember success. I just remember people being in the backfield all day and just it being havoc. But, yeah, I mean, I guess if you look at those numbers like it was impressive, but I mean, this team would, did not look good.
[00:22:48] Speaker B: Did anything impress you on offense for the Cowboys? Bone?
[00:22:53] Speaker C: No. I mean, no, I mean CD, I mean, compared to what CD has been doing.
[00:22:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:22:58] Speaker C: You know.
[00:22:59] Speaker A: Yeah. Again, if you look at this offense, like the way we pregame to this, we were kind of like, if they can hold Dak Prescott and CD Lamb to exactly what they did, like, we should run away with this game. They didn't do anything that we didn't expect.
[00:23:11] Speaker C: Timing of their scores and just the terribleness of our team, that punt return.
[00:23:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:23:19] Speaker C: Dagger.
[00:23:20] Speaker B: Yeah. They literally are who we thought they were.
[00:23:22] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly who we thought they were.
They're not going to win the Super bowl this year. They're not that good.
[00:23:27] Speaker B: No, the Browns were just ass.
[00:23:29] Speaker A: The Browns were really bad.
[00:23:30] Speaker B: And so speaking of the Cleveland Browns, let's, and I'm going through this quick because there just wasn't very many bright spots. So let's start with the offense. Deshaun Watson, 24 45 for 169 yards, one touchdown, two interceptions, five carries for 39 yards. He fumbled. Luckily it was recovered by Cleveland. Bottom line here, he looked awful. All, all of Cleveland is in full panic mode after this showing, like, full panic mode. Forget about anything else with Deshaun Watson right now because we're going to talk about that here soon.
But he just looks like a shell of his former self. And he just looks like a. Like, to put it as nicely as I can, he looks like. Like an awful football player.
[00:24:10] Speaker A: He is not good.
[00:24:11] Speaker C: His mind. His mind's gone. I just think it's gone.
[00:24:15] Speaker A: Look at his body language on the sidelines.
[00:24:17] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. He's just, like, moving around.
[00:24:19] Speaker A: Doesn't want to be there.
[00:24:20] Speaker B: Yeah. It's terrible.
[00:24:21] Speaker A: Everything about it is bad. And, and to. And he has not unlike. Let's be real honest here, he has not had a good showing since he's been at Brown. He's had some, like, marginally okay performances and his win loss record is good. But I think we've all. We've all agreed that they've won in.
[00:24:36] Speaker B: Spite of even his, his, his, like, marquee Winde. Like, his, like, oh, this was my Deshawn moment. He had the worst first half that you could ever think of, and then he followed it up by coming back against division rival. And that's the only reason everybody talks about it like it was so great, but they forget the first half was.
[00:24:52] Speaker A: Awful and it wasn't even that great of a game. It was just an efficient game.
[00:24:55] Speaker B: He doesn't.
[00:24:56] Speaker A: He hasn't thrown for 300 yards one time as a brown.
[00:24:58] Speaker B: No.
If we want to go back. What was my, what was my thing that I begged from Baker Mayfield the entire time he was here and, yeah, I was the one that brought Baker Mayfield up the first time in the show this time. But what was the one thing I asked him week in and week out?
Like, I just want someone to throw for 300 yards. Like, just give us, like, a decent stat line so we don't have to worry about the passing game.
[00:25:20] Speaker A: Well, Baker had a decent styling this week, and he didn't throw for 300 yards. They threw for four touchdowns.
[00:25:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:25] Speaker C: Do you guys think Deshawn knew the allegation was going to be coming out? Do you think he already was aware?
[00:25:31] Speaker B: I don't know. I mean, I will listen.
Yeah. We're not going to get too far into that because I have. We're going to. We're going. Going to dive deep into that here soon. But what I would think is, is I don't know if he knew about that or not. I would say probably, even though he says he didn't. He said today he didn't, but he probably did.
But I would say that I will give him the, the one thing I will say is his father did die two days before the game, and he.
[00:26:01] Speaker A: Had a friend that passed away, and.
[00:26:02] Speaker B: A friend passed away the day before the game. So, I mean, there's a tough couple of days leading up to the game for mentally, that's the only.
But to that, I'll provide as, like, sort of a defense for him.
[00:26:15] Speaker A: But to that, I would say his performance looked like it always has.
[00:26:18] Speaker B: True. And that's why I said, like, that's a little bit of a defense, but I'm like, I'm at the. I'm at. I can tell by the way you're talking right now you're completely done with the Sean Watson, and I'm just about there, too. And I've been a very, I've been cautiously optimistic with him since he's been here, specifically on the football field, obviously.
And I just think, like, he hasn't done anything to give anybody hope that he's going to return to anything close that he was.
[00:26:47] Speaker A: No, I mean, you can keep waiting. If you're somebody in the camp of I'll wait and he'll get better. You can keep waiting.
[00:26:52] Speaker B: You've been waiting. You'll keep waiting.
[00:26:54] Speaker A: You'll keep waiting.
[00:26:55] Speaker B: But yeah, at some point, and I knew this day was going to come for me if he continued to play poorly. I didn't think it was going to come this early in the season, but it has. And, like, I'm ready. Like, let's just move on to Winston at this point. Like, he's not good. He's, he's bad.
[00:27:13] Speaker A: We have bad.
[00:27:14] Speaker B: We've talked about it in the season preview episode is you have, like, generational talent all over the field for the Cleveland Browns, and you're completely wasting it on a quarterback that is shot as a quarterback. Like, like, mentally, he's shot. You could tell out there, and you talked about it the most. The biggest issue for me isn't even the play. Like, you could play like that. But if you're, you know, consistently, obviously it catches up to you eventually. But if you're consistently out there and you're a good teammate and you're, you know, you know, pumping people up on the sideline and you're a good leader and people are all talking great about you in the locker room. They're like, no, he's fantastic. We love him. We'll run through a brick wall for that guy. Nobody's saying that. Nobody is saying those things.
[00:27:54] Speaker A: To be fair, the locker room is doing what they're supposed to. No one has called him out and said, oh, Deshaun sucks. But I think they're saying the things they have to say. Which puts, which puts Deshaun in the same boat as Charlie Fry, Trent Dilfer, Doug Peterson, every other shitty quarterback we have had in the last 25 years.
But yeah, he's just a shell of a former, so he's never coming back. He's gone. He's gone. And until this Browns team does something about it, which I know they're in a tough spot with cap and all that, but until they do something about it, the. The ceiling for this team is very low.
[00:28:30] Speaker B: I agree. So let's move on from Deshawn because we. We will be coming back to. That's not the last you're going to hear about Deshaun Watson in this episode, but we got to get through the recap as quickly as possible here because I don't want to talk about it ever again.
The running backs. Jerome Ford. Twelve carries, 44 yards. There's that 3.7 yard average that's actually really good for him.
[00:28:47] Speaker A: Usually it's like, that's pretty, pretty well for.
[00:28:49] Speaker B: Usually it's like 2.5, but he did have a touchdown. The one bright spot for Jerome Ford is he did have six receptions for 25 yards. So that. That was nice to see him getting involved in the passing game.
[00:29:02] Speaker A: But bright spot for Jerome, a dark spot for Deshawn that can complete her behind the line of scrimmage.
[00:29:08] Speaker B: Yes. Next up here, wide receivers or just receivers in general? Jerry Judy. Three receptions, 25 yards, and his first touchdown is a Cleveland Brown. So at least we had that.
[00:29:18] Speaker A: And then he walked off into the injury tent for that. So that was good.
[00:29:21] Speaker C: He capped off our one good drive of the game.
[00:29:24] Speaker B: Yeah. Yep. Amari Cooper. Two receptions for 16 yards and dropped a touchdown pass that went right through his hands. This is one of the only other defenses I'll give Deshaun Watson at this point. The game was, was. I mean, we were pretty much out of it at this point anyways. But you gotta catch that ball because Watson got hammered on that, too. And what that does for your confidence moving forward, if there's anything left of it in the season and building momentum for next week and those types of things, like, it doesn't look as bad, it doesn't feel as bad if you guys only lost by a touchdown.
[00:29:56] Speaker A: Well, and what was disappointing about that was because an elite receiver, receiver who's been a legitimate number one receiver for us for the last couple of years doesn't drop a ball like that unless you absolutely lose focus. And you don't absolutely lose focus as an elite football player unless you've reached the point of apathy. You reach apathy in week one before the game's over. That's not good.
[00:30:18] Speaker B: Not good.
[00:30:18] Speaker A: Because he's not the only one. I guarantee you that.
[00:30:21] Speaker B: No, I mean, body language for the entire Cleveland Browns team at the end of this game was awful. Like, not even at the end of the game, like, like, by, like before halftime.
[00:30:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:29] Speaker B: People were just. You could tell they didn't want to be there anymore. Yeah. Next up, David Najoku. Four receptions for 40, 44 yards before he got the high ankle sprain.
Yep. And that would have kept a drive, drive going. So, again, early in the game, not that I'm trying to find ways to defend Deshawn, but I do want to at least put that out there. It was, it would have extended a drive. We would have kept things going. That was a sure first down. It was straight into his hands.
[00:30:55] Speaker A: Your defense is getting gassed because you're going three and out on every possession. Like, you need every, you need every opportunity to extend a drive and just get your defense a blow.
[00:31:05] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. And so not good when your, your best receivers are dropping passes like that. And then finally, Jordan Aikens. He did fill in well for David, David Njoku afterwards. Three receptions for 27 yards, and I think all of those came after Najoku got injured. So moving on to the defense here, I know that, that Dallas technically ended up scoring 33 points, but I really don't think the defense played all that poorly in this game. I think they were just in bad situations kind of throughout the day. And like you said, they were, they were gassed regardless of what the time of possession shows, especially the first half of the game. Like, they could not get off the.
[00:31:42] Speaker A: Field well, no, and the thing is, is you lose, you, you neutralize weapons like Miles Garrett when you can't stop them on first and second down.
They're playing a short field. They're already in field goal range because there's no reason for them to drop back on third and long and pass the ball. So there's, there's no reason you lose those opportunities to put on a heavy pass rush and let those guys shine. They were just not in those situations. It was like, it was, it was either third and short, or if it was third and long, they were drawing or screen and they didn't care because they were already in field goal range because the offense was so bad that by the second half, they were down so much, they were going forward on fourth down on every possession. And you were turning the ball over on your own 40, you were turning the ball over in field goal range.
[00:32:24] Speaker B: Right. So, yeah, I don't think they played that bad, but let's go through the defense here. Miles Garrett, two tackles, his first sack of the season.
Really kind of uneventful for Miles Garrett. I thought he would disrupt a lot more than he did.
[00:32:36] Speaker A: I mean, he wasn't even on the field a lot in that second half.
[00:32:39] Speaker B: Yeah. And then Juan Thornhill, nine tackles, one tackle loss.
We got a decent game out of Juan Thornhill, but then he's, you know, now he's injured again, so.
Yeah, more on that later. Boo jok. Nine tackles, one pass. Defense. Martin Emerson, eight tackles, one pass defense. Area Smith, a sack. Dalvin Tomlinson, a sec, which we'll talk more about in a second. And then special teams Cory Bajor. Bajora quiz. Seven punts for 357 yards.
In case you're keeping track, I believe that's over 100 yards more of total offense than the total offense for the Browns.
So, yeah, seven punch, 357 yards. That's a 50 1 yd average. He had a 62 yard long. So he continues to be the best punter in the league. And Dustin Hopkins picked up right where he left off last year. Wasn't given enough chances because the offense sucked ass. But he was one of one for his field goals and hit a 51 yarder and two of two on extra points.
So just continuing to be steady as he goes and then finally coaching here, Stefan Stenski, not a strong start.
Listen, we finished last season. We gave Stefanski his due. He said, you've got our respect, and he's still got our respect. But just for now, a couple more of these games, though, and I swear to God, Stefanski, I will give you the stefanic moniker back so fast that I don't even know, just, you can't have your team come out this flat.
[00:34:13] Speaker C: I think he's trapped. I think he's being forced to play with Deshawn and he's just freaking trapped.
[00:34:19] Speaker B: And he doesn't like it.
[00:34:21] Speaker C: He's the only quarterback I've seen him have who sucks. Otherwise he turns average dudes into pretty good.
[00:34:29] Speaker A: Joe Flacco came in and played five games for the Browns, over 300 yards. In four of them, I go back to Jacoby Brissette.
[00:34:37] Speaker C: He was winning games with Jacoby when Baker was hurt. I.
[00:34:40] Speaker B: And I'll give you this bone one of the. One of the things that I've seen this week that really backs that up is when you go back and look at the game, like, really look at the game. Like, we were. We were basically getting blown out at the end of it, and he left Deshaun Watson in to finish the game. And I know Watson came out this week and said, I was finishing that game no matter what. Like, well, were you? Were you? If. If Stefanski would have said, hey, you're going to come over here and take a seat, you wouldn't have taken that, right? And a blowout loss, Deshaun's like, no.
[00:35:05] Speaker A: I need to throw some more balls out of bounds.
[00:35:07] Speaker B: Yeah, like, I'm not buying that. I think. I think that actually speaks volumes to where Stefanski is at with this whole thing, and I think you are right. I think there's a little bit of a divide between the front office, who made the deal, and Stefanski, who's gotta actually deal with the product that's being put out there.
[00:35:25] Speaker A: Stefanski is the meme wolverine in his bed, looking at a picture of Baker Mayfield. Like, God, remember when I had such a hard time with Baker Mayfield and I thought he sucked and things were terrible. Terrible. Like, what I wouldn't give for a quarterback throw for four touchdowns right now. Cause I've got an absolute stinker at the position right now.
[00:35:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:43] Speaker A: That I can't do anything with.
[00:35:44] Speaker B: Yeah. I guess bottom line is, regardless of if he's stuck or not with the quarterback, he's gotta. He's gotta do something to make this team better than what they show. Cause they're. They have way too much talent to be that ass.
[00:35:58] Speaker A: I mean, the concerning thing is, right, they brought in kendors in the offseason, and the whole point of everything they did in the offseason season was to build an offense that made things easier for Deshawn. They said, we're going to build this offense around Deshaun.
[00:36:13] Speaker B: And that looked as bad as we've.
[00:36:15] Speaker A: Ever seen it, and that was as bad as it's been.
[00:36:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
Jim Schwartz, I already talked about it. I think the defense looked good despite the point total for the Cowboys.
[00:36:24] Speaker A: So I'm not worried about the defense. The rest, I mean, they'll be fine there. You know, we talked.
[00:36:28] Speaker B: I thought the secondary look good. He only threw for 169 yards or whatever.
[00:36:31] Speaker A: Hard to repeat as the number one defense over again. And in this game, they were overdeveloped, shadowed by Mike Zimmer in that Cowboys defense because of the six sacks and that. But this defense is going to be fine as long as they stay healthy.
[00:36:43] Speaker B: Yup. And then ventron. Special teams actually look decent. Darden had some good returns. Averaged 24.3 on kickoffs and 14.4 on punts, which is pretty good.
Hopkins is legit still. He's still hitting field goals, doing his thing. And Majora Clay is, like I said, just. Just putting it hard.
[00:36:59] Speaker A: I'll say this to as we round out coaching.
Anybody miss Bill Callahan this week?
[00:37:07] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:37:08] Speaker A: Andy Dickerson. Not off to a great start, to be fair.
[00:37:12] Speaker B: He basically was down as two starting tackles.
[00:37:14] Speaker A: Okay. Bill Callahan dealt with injuries all last year.
[00:37:17] Speaker C: That's also Jones last year, man. Look good.
[00:37:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:37:20] Speaker C: As a right tackle, man.
[00:37:22] Speaker B: Did you guys see the play that he completely gave up on this week?
[00:37:25] Speaker A: There's a bunch of. They all looked bad on.
[00:37:28] Speaker B: Was he literally, he, like, whiffed his block and just, like, walked away. He was like aga.
[00:37:32] Speaker A: I mean, I agree that DeShawn was bad and Jerome's not great, but that offensive line also didn't do much to help.
[00:37:38] Speaker B: So overall, total yards, Dallas 265, Cleveland 231st. Downs, both teams had 15. Time of possession, Dallas 2906, Cleveland 30 54.
[00:37:49] Speaker A: We want something.
[00:37:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Penalties? Both teams had eleven penalties. Dallas for 85 yards, Cleveland for 64 yards. And turnovers? Dallas zero, Cleveland two.
I know it's DefcoN five here in Cleveland. Everyone's full blown panic mode.
[00:38:04] Speaker A: Like I said, it's defensecon. It's backwards.
We'd be at one. Five's the neutral state.
[00:38:14] Speaker B: All right. Ok. We're at Defcon one here in Cleveland, and everyone is in full blown panic mode. And I get it. And I think a lot of those concerns are definitely warranted, like we just mentioned.
But as I was also having a meltdown like the rest of Cleveland this week, I took one moment to pause and say, what did we say in the last couple episodes leading up to this? Like, we were very optimistic about the Browns, but we also, at multiple points, said, well, nobody's really played in the preseason, so these first few games are going to be Cleveland's preseason.
Whether or not that's a good thing or a bad thing is not the point. But I'm just saying, we kind of knew this was going to happen. We just were in denial about it.
[00:39:01] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, Deshawn didn't play. Deshawn was limited even during camp, so it wasn't even like Deshawn didn't play in the preseason. And that's the whole reason he was limited all during camp. He missed days for health of his shoulder and stuff and get it he was rehabbing had you have to do that, but did not expect there to be a lull like a real rust there. The problem was, I hate the word rust with. The problem is Deshaun Watson is the rust.
[00:39:27] Speaker B: That's the problem with this. I saw a meme of like just a rusty robot and it's like Deshaun Watson shaking off the rust.
[00:39:34] Speaker C: I am the rust.
[00:39:34] Speaker B: Yeah, no, but here's the other thing about what I just said about it being the Browns essentially their preseason these first few games is it's not just the Browns, it's basically the whole NFL. And some examples of these. I know on the Manning cast the 49 ers game, Peyton Manning watched Brandon Iuke drop pass in the end zone and he like went off on him. He was like, this is why you got to get your contracts done and get into camp and get practicing and playing the preseason because this happens in week one. You shouldn't be dropping balls.
[00:40:07] Speaker A: It does seem like that was a pandemic across the NFL in terms of like not getting deals done. I mean, Jamar Chase is still out there. They got Dak done. The morning of the Browns game CD was a week prior. Like all these guys that had, that were due for deals, like why are these guys dragging their feet on franchise players? It doesn't make any sense.
[00:40:28] Speaker B: I don't know. And that was just one example. Troy Aikman was asked about QB play in week one and he said a lot of players just simply aren't practicing due to the fear factor of injury and to further drive that point home. 2021, week one passing touchdown versus 2024. Week one passing touchdowns and 2021, this was before really in the last few years. Here is when all these players are started. Like, I'm not playing preseason at all, right? In 20, 21, 61 passing touchdowns in week one and 2024, 35 passing touchdowns in week one. Only two qbs this week through for over 300 yards.
And it just, it, I think it just furthers the point. Like you guys gotta play in the preseason, you guys gotta get this stuff out of your system, get the bad plays out of your system and really get up to game speed. Speed so that you can hit the ground running when the season starts.
[00:41:19] Speaker A: I mean, we used to be a proper country. Do you remember when Peyton Manning and Tom Brady were throwing for 50 plus touchdowns a season and throwing for over 5000 yards consistently? Like there's when you start this slow, these guys, the passing leader is going to have, you know, 44 or 4600 yards. And I think last year the passing touchdowns leader had 35 or 36 touchdowns. And it's because, I think it's in large part because of this, because these guys, we've gotten so obsessed with the idea of safety that you forget that it's at the end of the.
[00:41:48] Speaker B: Can't just step on a field and play football right away.
[00:41:50] Speaker A: Contact, combat sport.
[00:41:52] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:41:53] Speaker A: And you're gonna get hit. And sometimes it just comes down to how tough you're like, look, head injuries, all sorts of serious stuff, but there's also a toughness factor here. I mean, guys like Brett Favre played games with broken fingers and broken thumbs. And I. You know what? The night after Brett Favre's dad died, he went on Monday football and threw for 399 yards of the broken thumb.
[00:42:18] Speaker B: Dude, I was thinking one of the best games ever.
[00:42:21] Speaker A: I remember that game lost the toughness element to football because everyone's so afraid of the injury aspect and safety first and all this stuff. Like it's ruining the game. Not that I want people to die playing the game, but like there has to be some balance here to where we're still playing football.
[00:42:40] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree. And the last thing I want to throw out there that just kinda of drives home the point that we're still in the preseason even though it's the regular season. Both teams in this game had eleven penalties and some of that is eleven.
[00:42:53] Speaker A: I think some of that too is also preseason for the refs. Like there were an excessive number of alignment penalties. Well, alignment penalties, Brown's game?
[00:43:04] Speaker B: No, but I mean, alignment penalties, though, typically points to like, you just haven't. The offense hasn't played together to get timing down.
[00:43:11] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, but I think that there's preseason penalties. I think that there's emphasis, though, on the way these guys are aligning more so this year than they have in the past where guys were kind of given a little more leeway. And it seems like they are calling this down to the line now. I mean, especially when you look at like the way that an offensive line kind of has continued to stagger back off of the line of scrimmage.
[00:43:32] Speaker B: Like they're looking away with so much stuff.
[00:43:35] Speaker A: Well, and they started calling it in. That Chiefs game was really where this first stood out. Cause Baltimore got called on like every possession. And that's what Jim Harbaugh was pissed. Cause he's like, if you're gonna call us on, then call them on it. Cause they're doing.
But I think that they're taking a hard line out this year where they're forcing these linemen up on the line of scrimmage. They want to see wide receivers that are on and off the line and consistently doing it the right way, whereas it's kind of been lax last couple of years. Of all the things for the NFL to worry about, this seems like the least amount of, like, impact to me. But for whatever reason, they're calling it really tight. And to your point, yeah, I mean, eleven penalties, regardless of the circumstances, not good.
[00:44:10] Speaker B: Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, eleven penalties is not good, but let's move on here. Deshaun Watson.
This is where we're going to get into things. So again, looked bad. And before we get into all the off field stuff, I do have a little bit more strictly football stuff here. So I have a couple things to kind of reinforce the notion of pumping the brakes and not declaring the end of the season just yet.
Oh, it's not over. No, it's not over yet. And the things that tells like it's over, it does feel like it's over, I'll give you that. Things that tell me that there may still be hope. Is Watson ranked 23rd in EPA per drop back in week one? That was just behind Dak Prescott. That was just ahead of Joe Burrow. So these are good quarterbacks that had really bad games that are going to bounce back. I guess the biggest difference is that they've shown repeatedly, like recently in the last year or so, that they could be good quarterbacks and he hasn't. So I guess I made a bad argument for a good argument.
[00:45:09] Speaker A: But anyways, Dick was into the MVP conversation last year, so.
[00:45:13] Speaker B: But I digress. One more thing, and we already actually talked about this. We don't have to get too far into it again. Amari dropping that touchdown, I think, is huge. Just as far as confidence level and building momentum into the following weeks. I think if he would have caught that, you would at least been like, they made it a game at the end, but he didn't. And here we are. There were four drops total in this game. That's a lot of drops in a game. And we've mentioned two that were in very big spots on the field.
[00:45:41] Speaker A: I maintained Amari dropped it because it was a bad pass.
[00:45:46] Speaker B: Right in his hands. Hit him in a bad spot, wasn't.
[00:45:48] Speaker A: Spinning the right way.
[00:45:49] Speaker B: It hit him in a bad spot.
[00:45:50] Speaker C: I'd say then a jokey Jap drop was big. Cause that was right. That was the first down. That was early.
[00:45:56] Speaker B: It was early on when we were still in the game. And, you know, things were. There were some bad things happening already, but we were still in it, and we had a chance to get some momentum and start. Start, you know, possibly getting towards taking the lead. But it is what it is. The things that have me concerned, though, that you could say our.
Yeah, there's a lot of concern.
[00:46:16] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:46:16] Speaker B: Thank God this is the big one. Pff. Attributed zero sacks to the offensive line in this game. They attributed. Attributed all six sacks to Watson and him hanging onto the ball, which is.
[00:46:27] Speaker A: Surprising because the line was ass in this game.
[00:46:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:46:30] Speaker A: And so not giving a line of pass here.
[00:46:31] Speaker B: No, but pfff. Would actually beg to differ. So they. He had a total of 56 drop backs, and out of that, only 18 pressures were given up on him. And of that, like, half of them weren't the offensive lines fault, according to PfF.
[00:46:50] Speaker A: Sure. Well, we also couldn't run the ball, so I'm sure the offensive line is swiss cheese.
[00:46:54] Speaker B: Yeah, but. So, when Watson was under pressure, he had 24 dropbacks. He was five of 15 for 20 yards, zero touchdowns in six sacks. That's when he was under pressure, when he was kept clean. And this is where it gets kind of scary.
32 dropbacks. He was 19 of 30 for 149 yards, one touchdown and two interceptions in a clean pocket.
[00:47:19] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, it sounds just like Al Deshaun's played the last three years, so. Doesn't surprise me.
[00:47:23] Speaker B: Yeah. So, I mean, I guess what I'm trying to say is, while there are things that could lead you to believe that, you know, we may need to wait and keep waiting and keep waiting. Keep waiting and keep waiting and keep waiting. I think signs are really starting to turn here.
[00:47:36] Speaker A: There's nothing to make me believe that Deshawn's done. He's washed.
[00:47:39] Speaker C: He threw footballs in the dirt, behind receivers, into the stands, onto the sidelines.
I did say so many different places.
[00:47:47] Speaker A: Weren'T on the receivers. Fans.
[00:47:49] Speaker B: Very early in the game, when we were texting the group message, and I was kind of like, I know it's early in the game still. And then right on cue, he threw that one in the dirt to Elijah Moore. And I was like, yeah, that's Deshaun Watson's fault, 100%.
[00:48:01] Speaker A: Yeah, it got wide open again.
[00:48:03] Speaker B: Yeah. And he was wide open, and that was a first down, and he threw a. On the floor.
[00:48:07] Speaker A: This guy, he's washed. He's washed. Mentally, I don't think he has confidence in his body physically, and it turns out he's just probably not a very good person.
[00:48:18] Speaker B: Yeah. So a great segue there. So now we'll get into his off the field stuff. Deshaun Watson had another lawsuit filed against him Monday in court. Not going to get into the actual lawsuit and the verbiage used in it, but I encourage listeners and viewers to read it for themselves. And with that, I will say, viewer and reader discretion is at advised.
[00:48:38] Speaker A: I mean, I'll say it. I mean, I think it's time that we start calling a spade a spade. Like, this is part of the reason that this has gone on so long and it's gone unchecked is because no one will say that this guy's mo is to show up at women's houses or apartments, wait for them to leave the room, strip naked and turn over with an erection and say, rub this. Yeah, that's what this guy's done to 20 and now more women in all of these cases.
[00:49:02] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:49:03] Speaker A: So, like, I get it. It's graphic and it's disgusting. You shouldn't do that. But, like, I think the more that we hide from this, so we don't just talk about the fact that this guy just shows up at chicks houses and says, hey, rub my butt. Well, that's what he told her. Rub my butt. And she was like, your back? And he was like, no, my butt. Oh, by the way, check out my erection. Like, it sounds bad. It hurts your ears. And it should.
[00:49:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:49:28] Speaker A: This is not normal behavior. And it's what, it's a part of what has turned this guy into an absolute shell of a human being, of a quarterback.
[00:49:37] Speaker B: And while I was trying, trying to be cautiously optimistic about him as a football player, since he's been a Cleveland Brown. But when we first acquired Deshaun Watson, I said, if any of these allegations are true, this dude needs to be in jail. And the same holds true for this. It continues to hold true. If any of these things are true, he is a predator. He needs to be in jail. Like, he should not. Should he be playing football or should he not be playing football? The dude shouldn't even be on the. On the streets because he's a menace to society. Like, that's like, how he's. If any of this is true, how he's gotten away from this or away with this for so long is absolutely beyond.
[00:50:19] Speaker A: I think that's why. I think it's part of it is because we refuse to even talk about it. It's so gross that we refuse to even have an open conversation. I hear the same thing on sports radio all the time. Well, we're going to talk about the actual allegations because they're pretty graphic. If they're too graphic to say like, that, should tell you something is wrong here.
[00:50:37] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I mean, if you need to put a viewer in listener discretion on it, just to read the words aloud, that's a problem.
[00:50:45] Speaker A: And it just goes back to, like, the negligence of the Browns as an organization to give this guy all this guaranteed money, to give up all of these draft picks. This is not starting to look like a bad deal. This is very clearly one of the, and if not the worst acquisitions, worst transactions in the history of the league, period. You've got nothing out of it. You gave up a ton to get them. You're in cap hell because of it. And you really can't even move on. I mean, you can. And the thing is, they should. They're not going to win a bunch of games. Deshaun's not going to get better. He's not going to reclaim his old self. So until they move on and make a change at quarterback, you're going to be stuck. The money and all those things point towards, hey, let's just keep hoping, you know? Keep hoping, hoping. I mean, what's your mom say? You can hope in one hand and shit in the other at the end of the day, like, she says a lot. Like, you're just handfuls of shit at the end of the day.
[00:51:36] Speaker B: See what fills up fast. This guy, he's.
[00:51:39] Speaker A: He's not going to be the Deshawn of 4900 yards in league and passing ever again. He's. He's done. And I think part of it, too, is I think he's. He's nervous that who knows how many other of these cases are out there.
[00:51:54] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean.
[00:51:55] Speaker A: I mean, all of a sudden, again.
[00:51:57] Speaker B: We'Re having John Watson. That's the only we're having.
[00:51:59] Speaker A: I don't think he even knows. And I think that's part of it, is he's going at this at any time. There could somebody else, another shoe could drop. And all of a sudden, like, we're having the same conversation we had two years ago, which is, well, now there's going to be an NFL conduct personal policy investigation. Is Sean gonna get suspended? Is the league gonna take him away? Like, how many games has this guy played for your franchise? And in the games he's played, when has he ever even been remotely close to mediocre?
[00:52:29] Speaker B: Yeah, and I was gonna say that's the, that's the kicker with this one, right? Is. It's treated as a separate case from the rest of them. There's gonna be an investigation. He could be suspended for as long or longer as then probably longer, because it would be a repeat offense at that point than he was before. So, I mean, yeah, like I said, I tried to stay cautiously optimistic through this whole thing, but dude, up to this point, is a shit football player. Uh, up to this point, dude seems to be a shit human being. And it. Even if he isn't, and I'm completely wrong in saying that, then at the very least, he's a huge distraction to.
[00:53:02] Speaker A: Our team and he's a bad quarterback.
[00:53:03] Speaker B: And here's a serious question. Seriously, like, like, real question. If he's. If he isn't guilty with any of this, right. If what he claims is true and all these women lie, including the new one, the new allegation, why has Deshaun Watson never filed a defamation of character lawsuit against anymore?
[00:53:23] Speaker D: Sure.
[00:53:23] Speaker A: Sure.
[00:53:24] Speaker B: Why do you continue to settle out of court and not say, no, you're wrong. I didn't do this. You are lying.
[00:53:29] Speaker A: You've got $230 million. You have resources and do your own investigation. Like, figure out how Tony Busby has convinced 20 and more women to come up with the exact same story with the exact same MO and every single one of them. And. And you want to settle with them. You don't want, you don't want to claim your own innocence and exonerate yourself?
[00:53:48] Speaker B: Come on.
[00:53:49] Speaker A: I mean, the investigation done by the NFL, done by Sue L. Robinson, when she wrote and did this predator, she essentially said, basically, from what we can tell, he did all these things, and.
[00:54:02] Speaker B: He used the word predator.
[00:54:04] Speaker A: She basically said basically on our investigation like this, and this is why he's being punished. So, like, the NFL, while they're not, the court of law, has basically already convicted this guy in some sense of he's. We have enough evidence to believe that he has done these things.
[00:54:20] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:54:20] Speaker A: And we've punished him once, so we're going to have to do this whole thing over again. And meanwhile, we're going to start him on Sunday.
[00:54:29] Speaker B: Do you have any thoughts on this whole thing?
[00:54:35] Speaker C: I kind of hope the Browns can get out of this contract with this next with this new allegation. That's kind of what I'm thinking.
[00:54:42] Speaker B: There has been some things reported. Sports Illustrated was able to dig up some details on his contract and things of that nature where they could potentially, because he didn't disclose any other allegations, I guess that was in the contract they wrote.
Have you been up front with us? Is this everything that's going to come out. And he basically said yes, and they wrote it in the contract. If anything else comes out, we can void this contract.
[00:55:06] Speaker A: Think about the power brokers of the United States, though. Guys like Jerry Jones. The Browns didn't do those guys any favors by signing Deshaun Watson to a guaranteed contract. And now every player that's come up for wants the same thing, and they've all had to battle back against it. I don't think the league and the power brokers in the league are in any position to cut the Browns slack or a deal here and go. You know what? We should help those guys out. Let's. Let's enforce this contract to a tee.
[00:55:34] Speaker C: Well, look at. I'm pretty sure Dax contract was 231 million guarantees. You don't think they're looking at Deshaun hundred percent, right?
[00:55:43] Speaker A: Yeah. That was no coincidence. Dak wanted the most guaranteed money.
[00:55:46] Speaker B: Yeah. So I guess. I guess the bottom line, though, is Deshawn's been a shit football player since he's been here. He's still a shit human being, apparently. And I'm ready for James Winston. So you guys in? Oh, hell yeah, I'm in. Listen, James Winston has a laser rocket arm, too, so I think if we put him in, we're going to have success.
[00:56:10] Speaker A: You'll have more than you have with Deshaun Watson. Cause he's a stinker.
[00:56:15] Speaker B: I like how you're goat stinker.
What are you, 70?
[00:56:20] Speaker A: I mean, he's just as bad as bad can be.
[00:56:23] Speaker B: He's been pretty bad.
[00:56:24] Speaker A: It's beyond belief how bad he has been, because you look at the guy and, you know, he had talent and, you know, he had a success.
How did you just get bad overnight? I mean, outside of the fact that he just was absolutely depleted mentally at this point.
[00:56:42] Speaker B: Yeah, I think you've got a good point about the. I'm not sure what's going to come out next.
[00:56:46] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, it'd be like committing a murder and then.
[00:56:49] Speaker B: Oh, God.
[00:56:50] Speaker A: And, yeah, like, nobody knows.
[00:56:52] Speaker B: Like, everybody's collecting all the evidence and you get to see them collecting all the evidence, but you're like, is. Are they going to pin it on me?
[00:56:57] Speaker A: Even if they haven't collected the evidence yet? Just the fact that, you know, you killed somebody and that someday somebody could find it and they're gonna put you in jail. Just that, like, walking through life like that, not good. Has to ruin your psyche.
[00:57:13] Speaker B: Like, I mean, I guess unless you're a serial killer.
[00:57:16] Speaker A: Yeah, like, Dexter enjoyed that.
[00:57:18] Speaker C: If you're a psychopath and you can just not process any of that. But that dude's got to have just mountains of material in his head right now just weighing down on him.
[00:57:28] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:57:28] Speaker A: And, you know, every time it comes out, it looks and sounds bad to the point where everybody on the radio has to go, we're not going to tell you the whole story, but if you look it up, you'll be disgusted.
[00:57:39] Speaker B: But Kenny told you the whole story. So I tried to scare even I was guilty of it. I tried to skirt around it, and Kenny said, no, we're going to talk about it right here, right now.
[00:57:47] Speaker A: Talk about people need to hear it. It's because the more that we, the more that we hide from it, the more that we can pretend like this isn't a big deal. And as, as bad as the Browns have it, and as bad as Deshawn has it, there's actual victims out there that have it much worse.
[00:58:02] Speaker B: Absolutely. Say that again for the people in the back.
[00:58:06] Speaker A: Yeah, the victims. There's actual people that have been victimized here.
[00:58:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Thank you.
[00:58:10] Speaker A: It's bigger than football.
[00:58:12] Speaker B: And so with that, you want me to make you feel even worse about the Browns right now? Let's give it to me again today for. We're recording on Wednesday. A little wait, a little late this week.
Four Browns today were placed on IR safety Juan Thornhill. That's one starter.
[00:58:31] Speaker A: Hell yes.
[00:58:31] Speaker B: Defensive tackle Mo Hearst. A lot of playing time. Love it. Linebacker Tony Fields and linebacker Mohamed Diabadi. So we have absolutely no depth at linebacker anymore.
[00:58:41] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:58:41] Speaker B: And we lost a starter and a rotation guy, so that's all good. Oh, and on top of it, David Ojoku suffered the dreaded high ankle sprain in this last game. And we'll be out for several weeks.
[00:58:50] Speaker A: Few weeks. And when he comes back, he'll never be the same.
[00:58:53] Speaker B: Yeah. And by several weeks, we meand probably at least four to six. And when he comes back this season, he's going to have a rough season.
[00:58:59] Speaker A: This is going to be, this is like the high ankle sprain for a guy that relies on speed and strength. Like, this is essentially the Baker Mayfield injury to the throwing shoulder.
[00:59:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:59:09] Speaker A: That's what he's going to come back.
[00:59:11] Speaker B: And I don't put this like, I'm not saying anything bad about David Najoku here. No, he's not. He's a warrior and he's going to come out here and play and he'll actually probably play. Ok. But he just won't have the, he won't be the same cutting ability, the maneuverability that he usually has.
[00:59:25] Speaker A: And the high ankle is one of those things that you just. You just can't heal in season.
[00:59:29] Speaker B: No.
[00:59:30] Speaker A: Unless you just take all the time off.
[00:59:32] Speaker B: Unless they give him the shoestring. The shoestring operation. Remember them talking about that? That's what healed. Was it Rogers was able to come back and like his Achilles? Yeah. No. What? No, it wasn't Rogers. Then somebody else. But I know when you have a high ankle sprain, you could do a shoestring procedure and it basically speeds up the healing process and you come back better. But you have to be willing to have a surgery, so.
[00:59:52] Speaker A: And that'll also keep you out a few weeks.
[00:59:54] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, it's like a guaranteed four instead of a potential four to six is what. What you get, so. Well, just.
[01:00:00] Speaker A: Again, I think the problem is it's. It's four to six until you can play again and then, like, you're still not really healed from it.
[01:00:07] Speaker B: Right.
[01:00:07] Speaker A: It's the issue. So you come back at 80% of your. Yourself.
[01:00:10] Speaker B: A lot of this depends on the severity of it, too. And I don't know how bad it is, so.
[01:00:14] Speaker A: Well, anytime it's a high ankle spray, it's usually bad.
[01:00:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
And then in response to these things, the Browns have signed David Bell back to the active roster.
[01:00:27] Speaker A: Oh, boy.
[01:00:28] Speaker B: The Venus flytrap is back.
[01:00:30] Speaker A: Lives again.
[01:00:31] Speaker B: Defensive tackle Sam Camara signed to the active roster. Cornerback Mike Ford, junior and linebacker Zach Kaliki Hudson.
[01:00:40] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:00:41] Speaker B: And then finally, notable signing to the practice squad this week. Wide receiver Kaderius Tony was signed to the practice squad.
[01:00:48] Speaker A: A guy that can do everything a receiver needs to do except for catch the ball.
[01:00:52] Speaker B: Perfect.
[01:00:53] Speaker A: Great route runner.
[01:00:54] Speaker B: It'll be great for Deshawn, who can do everything but throw the ball in.
[01:00:57] Speaker A: Out of his cuts.
[01:00:59] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. We're building a team of players that aren't good at the one thing they need to be good at.
[01:01:03] Speaker A: Missed one more notable signing of the practice squad.
[01:01:05] Speaker B: Oh, who was it?
[01:01:06] Speaker A: Siaki ika. Back.
[01:01:07] Speaker B: Oh, he is back. Yes. Thank you. Thank you.
[01:01:09] Speaker A: The most unathletic man on planet.
[01:01:11] Speaker B: A rare catch by Kenny Thunder.
[01:01:14] Speaker A: I'm nothing if not detail oriented.
That's why I said erection earlier.
[01:01:19] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So that'll conclude the week one recap. And next up we have the burning river sportscast. Dog of the week, baby.
[01:01:32] Speaker A: Doesn't matter, man. You gotta play tough, people in the national football League. You gotta be ready. And we gotta be the dogs that we are every time we step on there on Sunday and be ready to attack and don't stop until we're in that locker room.
[01:01:46] Speaker B: And so this week's burning river sportscast dog of the week is Dalvin Tomlinson. He had three tackles, one tackle for loss, and one gigantic sack.
Literally, this was the only exciting play basically, the whole night. Like, like, bone actually texted when it happened. He said, wow. Wow.
[01:02:04] Speaker C: I was so excited. I was like, dude, our defense is freaking rocking it already.
[01:02:09] Speaker B: And in case you missed it, just paint the picture for you.
The pocket was collapsing on the edges for Dak Prescott, and he kind of climbed the ladder and was looking for somebody underneath to throw it to. And Dalvin just got loose and came out of nowhere and absolutely humped him.
[01:02:26] Speaker A: They climbed the ladder into Dalvin.
[01:02:27] Speaker B: Tom, it was one of the hardest hits I've seen in NFL.
[01:02:32] Speaker C: Fast.
[01:02:33] Speaker B: Yeah. It was one of the hardest hits I've seen an NFL quarterback take from a defensive tackle in quite some time, weighs 330 pounds.
[01:02:40] Speaker C: Deshawn took one under the chin, too, from his helmet, I thought from the sack. It actually worried me when they replayed it. Sorry. Yeah.
[01:02:46] Speaker B: Deck did.
[01:02:47] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
[01:02:48] Speaker B: I was gonna say, if you sit in his own player, we got a problem.
[01:02:51] Speaker A: I'll say this, too. The. What I thought was most impressive about this play altogether was that Miles was triple teamed by the end of it.
[01:02:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:02:59] Speaker A: That's how much havoc. So when you think about, like, creating room for guys to just have just open lanes to the quarterback, there were three men, two linemen and a running, running back trying to keep Miles Garrett off of Dak Prescott's asshole.
[01:03:11] Speaker B: And that's just a good point for all those people out there. I'll just throw that out there already this season that say that Miles Garrett is overrated and all this others like, it literally took three NFL players to.
[01:03:22] Speaker A: Keep him from the quarterback.
[01:03:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:03:24] Speaker C: That was the whole game on Miles. Yeah.
[01:03:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:03:27] Speaker A: So that was literally the most.
[01:03:28] Speaker B: It was the most exciting play.
[01:03:29] Speaker A: Most and only exciting.
[01:03:31] Speaker B: The only other time I was excited is when Dustin Hopkins hit the 51 yarder. And I was like, he's back. He is back.
[01:03:36] Speaker A: I mean, it was a good moment, but, I mean, as far as excited, though.
[01:03:39] Speaker B: So I was Dalvin Tomlinson. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Dalvin Tomlinson, the dog of the week.
[01:03:45] Speaker A: Nice work, Dalvin. I like the DT. And he's a DT.
[01:03:49] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:03:50] Speaker A: DT. DT.
[01:03:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
[01:03:52] Speaker A: I'm gonna call him that for now. A DTT.
[01:03:55] Speaker B: And with that, let's get into the division roundup.
All right, so this was we should.
[01:04:08] Speaker A: Stop picking hams in.
[01:04:10] Speaker B: Yeah, we should. Yeah, let's, let's just.
[01:04:13] Speaker A: Whatever the opposite of king of the north is, that's where we.
[01:04:17] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll, we'll start with the Bengals here, though. The Bengals hosted the rebuilding Patriots and lost. Joe Burrow looked like ass. He can barely pick up a water bottle. I don't know if you guys saw that.
Flexing his wrist the entire game, kind of moving it around. So it looks like our prediction about this wrist injury may be coming true.
[01:04:33] Speaker A: I don't even think he can do this thing.
[01:04:35] Speaker B: Oh, a bottle flip.
Nice.
No, probably not. But it was, I mean, it was hard to watch. Like, the dude can literally, literally barely picked things up and you could tell he's injured the whole game and he has stupid hair and he has stupid hair. So there's that. Also, the owners are the cheapest in the league and the team is cash poor and that's why they can't sign Jamar Chase.
[01:04:55] Speaker A: So they're selling their tvs.
[01:04:57] Speaker B: So I guess we should have stuck to our guns before the season. The Bengals are ass and the Steelers are going to be a decent team.
[01:05:01] Speaker A: I mean, the crazy thing was, is that was the biggest spread of the week. It was like eight and a half points. I mean, that's a big spread in the NFL.
[01:05:07] Speaker B: Yeah, well, it's like I said, they hosted the rebuilding Patriots. The, the Bengals, who are by and large, by most, most, quote unquote experts out there picked to win the division, are hosting the Patriots, who are clearly in a rebuild with a rookie coach.
[01:05:22] Speaker A: With what running game, what offensive line and what defense, because that whole team looked like ass. And unless Joe Burrow shows up and is the savior of every game, this team is going absolutely nowhere this year.
[01:05:33] Speaker B: Absolutely. So needless to say, Joe Burrow could.
[01:05:37] Speaker A: Show up and throw over 400 turns a game the rest of the season and it, it wouldn't be like, impossible.
[01:05:42] Speaker B: It just, I just don't see it with that improbable. Yeah, I think, I think we were right with that injury. I think. Shout out to AJ Hawk. I think AJ Hawk was right. He said, he said I had that injury.
[01:05:53] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:05:54] Speaker B: It's not easy to come back from his hands broken. So we were all wrong on that, though. This is the bottom line. We all bought into the hype and picked the Bengals to over three. Yeah, over three there. So next up, Baltimore went to KC and lost to the defending Super bowl champion.
I was right here. You guys were both wrong. I heard you guys, you guys were real back and forth on this one last week when I was gone.
[01:06:14] Speaker A: Yeah, we should have just went with our guts on this, too, but we.
[01:06:16] Speaker B: Wanted, you guys just wanted to beat.
[01:06:17] Speaker A: We wanted to pick different than you.
[01:06:19] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:06:19] Speaker A: And we thought maybe we could beat the chief.
[01:06:21] Speaker B: You should listen to me because I'm one in three.
[01:06:26] Speaker A: What I will say about this game, and just like we just kind of outlined the fact that the bangles are not impressive.
Kansas City did not play their best game. They dropped a bunch of wide open passes, like absolute touchdowns that were just dropped and their personnel looked, I mean, Xavier Worthy. Like they are going to do damage this year in the league as they get better and better as the season goes on. And it was everything Baltimore could do to just to keep up with, keep up with them. I mean, Lamar Jackson's average pass yards per pass attempt was like one and a half yards. Everything that they were doing was underneath in the backfield. They weren't able to stretch the field. They don't have a lot of guys. I mean, they flowers. All right. But honestly, honestly, like, he's not, he's not a super deep threat.
And Derek Henry looked bad.
[01:07:12] Speaker B: Yeah. So, and all good points and Brown's issues that they're currently having aside this actually, this game also reiterated what we kind of said in the offseason is, is we said Baltimore would be tough, but they also, I think Bone said it about a hundred times. He said Derek Henry can't do anything.
[01:07:32] Speaker A: No. And that defense is young and that defense got torched by Kansas City a couple of times. And it should have been. Kansas City should have wondez that game by two or three more scores.
[01:07:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:07:40] Speaker A: I mean, and if that would have happened, we would have all been going, wow, Baltimore's defense is really bad. They dropped the ball so that kept that from happening. And Lamar had an out, ridiculous, out of his mind game rest for like 150 yards and kept a minute. But I mean, honestly, that defense, with the amount of attrition they had, just people they lost in the offseason, like, it's going to take time for that defense to get better. So I just, I'm not, I mean, outside the fact that we suck ass, the Bengals so far and the Ravens so far don't look like a team that would scare me in the north.
[01:08:12] Speaker B: And Pittsburgh's up next and they didn't look good either.
[01:08:14] Speaker A: Well, we're going to get to that one as soon as you tell us how we did.
[01:08:17] Speaker B: Well, I was right and you guys were both wrong against for the Baltimore game. But yeah, what I was going to say is, Brown's issues aside, this gives me a lot of hope for the division going forward because, well, I don't have any hope.
[01:08:31] Speaker A: Cause if we don't win any games.
[01:08:33] Speaker B: All right, so on to the next one. Pittsburgh goes to Atlanta and Beefe the completely overhyped Falcons in this one. I know the Falcons were getting a lot of love before the season, and I think that's pretty much gone with Kirk Cousins having his worst game of all time.
[01:08:47] Speaker A: And Bone called this one outright. He was like, we're all going to be wrong.
[01:08:53] Speaker B: It was one of the last things that I listened to when I relistened to last week's episode for some of the notes I was trying to get. And it was that sentence he said, I have a feeling we're all going to be on.
[01:09:07] Speaker A: Tomlin just does not lose. Look, I think it was, this was. I think our pick was less about Atlanta getting hype and more about Pittsburgh just being also a shit show. And to be fair, they didn't score any touchdowns in this game. Their entire offense was six field goals, which is scary.
[01:09:24] Speaker B: Cause didn't they start Justin Fields?
[01:09:26] Speaker A: And they did start Justin Fields, but Justin Fields are passed for like 150 yards.
[01:09:29] Speaker B: I know, but that's what I'm saying. Like, I think that the offense is actually gonna be worse when Russell Wilson comes back.
[01:09:34] Speaker A: Well, the thing is, is that their running game was bad and they don't have any playmakers outside of George Pickens. So until George Pickens even he is.
[01:09:44] Speaker B: I think it's becoming more and more clear that while he is a very good player in the NFL and he's probably a future superstar, he still has some work to do to get to the top tier level.
[01:09:54] Speaker A: Agreed. He's not elite yet. He's a superstar for sure, but he's. He's not ascended to the level of like a.
[01:10:01] Speaker B: You can double.
[01:10:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:10:02] Speaker B: Like, you can double team him and it's not going to matter.
[01:10:04] Speaker A: Yeah. Cowboys, even though they didn't, they didn't have a ton of offense on Sunday. When they wanted to get ten yards, they went to CD Lamb and it didn't matter who was covering where he was or they had him on the end around. Like, they found a way to get him the ball and he delivered in pretty much all those circumstances. So do you think they ran so.
[01:10:21] Speaker B: Many under rounds just because they were like, fuck. Used to fantasy?
[01:10:24] Speaker A: They took his playbook when they threw out, when they brought kendorsie.
[01:10:28] Speaker B: This is how you do it.
[01:10:30] Speaker A: When they brought Ken Dorsey's playbook in, Stefanski put his in the trash, and the Cowboys took it.
So, yeah, look. But, yeah, the offensive for Pittsburgh is putrid.
Their defense is formidable, I'll give them that. Cause they did shut down Drake, London, Sean Robinson, Kirk Cousins. I mean, nobody did anything on that Falcons team.
[01:10:51] Speaker B: At what point is the. I almost called him Djon.
That's our Dijon.
[01:10:57] Speaker A: That's my new favorite thing to call. Dijon Washington.
[01:10:59] Speaker B: I almost call it.
[01:11:03] Speaker C: I got a guy at work that just straight up calls him mustard.
[01:11:07] Speaker B: But at what point is Bichon Robinson? At what point is the hype overblown for him? Because I'm still kind of waiting for him to be fantastic like everybody talks about. Like, not that he's bad. I'm not saying he's bad, but he was supposed to be like, I'll say.
[01:11:21] Speaker A: This, everything Bichon Robinson got F'd in the a by coaching last year. I mean, his usage. He was getting like three carries a game, if that. They had. Who's there? Artie Smith had a hard on for Tyler Algier and Cordell Patterson, so he didn't get the ball hardly at all last year. He's going to be fine once he gets to the carry the rock. The Steelers team was a tough defense to run against. I mean, that's a big front, and it's athletic guys in the backfield, so I think he'll be just fine. That being said, I don't know. Atlanta's going to be very good this year. And again, when you think about the AC Northe, Pittsburgh, just like Baltimore, has their warts and other problems. If we could just field a mediocre football team, we'd win the division by five games.
[01:12:05] Speaker B: Put Jamis in if you want to win, put Jabu in.
[01:12:10] Speaker A: Did you say that?
[01:12:11] Speaker B: That's his name? That's what he calls himself.
[01:12:14] Speaker A: Sounds really risky.
[01:12:17] Speaker B: Should I not say that? Should we go back?
[01:12:19] Speaker A: You can say it if you think it's okay.
[01:12:21] Speaker B: Isn't that what. That's what his. I think his twitter handle is. Jabu wins.
[01:12:25] Speaker A: I'm just saying it sounds like calling a short person a midget. Like, that's kind of where it's at.
[01:12:28] Speaker B: I take it back, but if it's.
[01:12:30] Speaker A: Not, I might just be overreacting. I'm just saying, look, 2024, I'm just sensitive to anything that sounds remotely, you know.
[01:12:38] Speaker B: If that's not allowed, I apologize. I didn't know.
I know ignorance isn't a defense, but I really didn't know. But anyways, that takes us.
[01:12:47] Speaker A: I'm not accusing you of being a racist.
[01:12:49] Speaker B: I'm scared now. Am I gonna get canceled?
[01:12:52] Speaker A: It may or may not have been super racist. No phone. Do you know the answer?
[01:12:58] Speaker C: Mister Thunder might have to cancel you again.
[01:13:03] Speaker B: I knew this moment would come.
I was going to say something stupid that I didn't even know was stupid.
[01:13:09] Speaker A: Oh, man.
[01:13:10] Speaker B: Oh God. But anyways, Cleveland got humped by them boys and we were all wrong there. So for the AFC north standings are as follows. Pittsburgh is in first place, 10 in Baltimore, Cincinnati and Cleveland in that order due to tie breakers, whatever they are, I don't know in the season are all zero one and we suck ass. So current king of the north standings, I am winning.
[01:13:34] Speaker C: You guys, this feels awful.
[01:13:36] Speaker B: You guys suck. You guys are both owing for and I am one in three sneaker.
What does that come out to? One in eleven is what our overall.
[01:13:47] Speaker A: Record is, 91 win percentage.
[01:13:49] Speaker B: That is awful.
With that, let's take a quick trip around the NFL.
[01:13:59] Speaker A: Guys.
[01:13:59] Speaker B: I'm just kidding. We're not taking a trip around the NFL. I just have one college football note that I want to talk about here. Has the shine worn off coach prime in Colorado?
[01:14:07] Speaker A: It's certainly trending that way. I can't talk because I've got the call from the laps.
Yeah, look, you start coughing when you.
[01:14:18] Speaker B: Get excited about canceling, man.
[01:14:19] Speaker A: I mean, look, I know prime went to Juco and like showed out there, wherever, wherever it was, Jackson State or whatever, and did a good job coaching that football team. But this almost feels like now, like.
[01:14:32] Speaker B: It'S just become a circus.
[01:14:33] Speaker A: Well, it almost just feels like he was looking for a way into a d one program so he could bring his kids along and like you almost pop warner them. Like when you want to be the coach to your kid could be the quarterback or the pitcher.
[01:14:43] Speaker B: Like as soon as they're out of there, he's, he's going to be out of there too.
[01:14:47] Speaker A: Yeah, like, I don't, I don't know that he's like, it's disappointing in a way because like he came in and basically fired the whole team, right? He was like, hey, we're going to use the transfer portal. We're going to bring in a whole new team. And it's kind of like maybe this is how college football is going to be. And to an extent, like, it kind of is the way the guys have moved around now. But, but it was kind of like, do they have something here in Colorado? Like are they going to actually be able to build a program. Nope. And we're quickly down the drain. Last year, it only took two games. This year, and then this year. Yeah. Already it's not looking great for them.
[01:15:18] Speaker B: And they lost in Nebraska.
[01:15:19] Speaker A: Now you have some of these.
[01:15:22] Speaker B: They lost to Nebraska. Nebraska hasn't been good since, like, 1987.
[01:15:27] Speaker C: Cornhuskers are back.
[01:15:29] Speaker A: Bones on the bandwagon. The stadium holds 85,000 people.
[01:15:34] Speaker B: I drive a Dodge Stratus.
[01:15:36] Speaker A: But the fact that now he's instructed the margin bandaid not play the fight song for his son's touchdowns, and instead, they had to play his son's rap song over the pa. I mean, that's the kind of stuff that's like. Like, what are we doing here?
[01:15:49] Speaker B: Sticker.
[01:15:50] Speaker C: Sticker sounds a little gimmicky.
[01:15:55] Speaker B: It literally sounds like the. The dumb wwe wrestler that comes in with the weirdest gimmick. Like, what was Santino Morello with. With the cobra? Did you know that's. That coach prime is Santino Morello with the cobra.
[01:16:08] Speaker A: Brow wasn't real.
[01:16:10] Speaker B: No. That's fantastic knowledge.
[01:16:12] Speaker A: It was just mascara, though.
[01:16:13] Speaker B: That's the best facts for Daisy gave me for a while.
[01:16:15] Speaker A: It was just mascara, and Vince loved it.
Like, when they first.
[01:16:20] Speaker B: That sounds like a Vince. Vince.
[01:16:21] Speaker A: Vince loved it. He was like, you're always unibrow. And, like, he said he went on vacation one day and came back and then just didn't do it, and nobody noticed. So, like, that's why he went from unibrow to note to just regular looking guy again. But he's like, for a long time, Vince was like, you are unibrow.
Every day, you had to put my screen.
[01:16:39] Speaker B: Well, that invincible man doesn't work there anymore, so, you know.
[01:16:42] Speaker A: Well, yeah, I guess some kids saw him in an airport once, and he had a unibrow, and he was so excited to see Santino, and he was like.
And then he was a super dyser. He's like, wait, it's not real. It's not a real unibrow.
[01:16:52] Speaker B: That's the best story I ever heard.
And with that story, we're gonna get into the hot three.
[01:16:58] Speaker A: What is today's show?
[01:17:05] Speaker B: I'm the gas in the tank. Gonna turn it up.
[01:17:08] Speaker D: Tank.
[01:17:11] Speaker B: All right, firefighter. All right. So this week on the hot three, we're gonna be talking about vacation spots. And this is vacation spots that you've been to. Cause you can't explain vacation spots you haven't been to.
[01:17:24] Speaker A: Favorite vacation spots. It's the end of vacation season. We already need a browns vacation.
[01:17:28] Speaker B: I just came back. I took vacation the first week of the season.
[01:17:31] Speaker A: Ronnie just came back, back from vacation.
[01:17:35] Speaker B: So we'll start with Kenny. Kenny, what's your. What are your prime vacation spots?
[01:17:40] Speaker A: My hot three. Gosh, I really am.
[01:17:44] Speaker B: That's why I'm starting with you.
We're just gonna power through this. Let's go.
[01:17:48] Speaker A: Power through number three. I'm gonna say cruise.
[01:17:51] Speaker B: Cruise in general.
[01:17:52] Speaker A: Cruise. And this wouldn't have been on my list before until I took a cruise, which was actually the Brownsville fan cruise.
And I just say cruise because I'm really not interested in the destination. What I learned on the Browns fan cruise is that I could get on a boat with my all you can eat pass and the pools and the.
[01:18:11] Speaker B: Sun, bro, you ain't lying.
[01:18:12] Speaker A: And just the other activities that there are to do. I mean, there was magic shows and comedy shows, and, like, there's so much.
[01:18:17] Speaker B: Second breakfast, third breakfast, second dinner, third dinner, fourth dinner, fifth dinner.
[01:18:22] Speaker A: There's just so much stuff to do and so much food to eat.
[01:18:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:18:25] Speaker A: Like, I could.
[01:18:26] Speaker B: It was decent food.
[01:18:27] Speaker A: I could go on a cruise to pretty much anywhere and have a good time. Now I know, like, I wouldn't care really, where it went. I think that when my boat pulled into port, I would just stay on the boat this time because that's when the pools get. Nobody's at the.
[01:18:38] Speaker B: Even if you haven't been there to that place.
[01:18:40] Speaker A: Nah, if I want to go to that place, I schedule a vacation there. Like, I don't just want to be.
[01:18:43] Speaker B: On boat all week.
[01:18:44] Speaker A: I don't want to. Yeah. Like, I don't want to have to get.
[01:18:45] Speaker B: Basically want to be unplugged.
[01:18:47] Speaker A: And honestly, the. The getting off of the boat and knowing you have, like, 6 hours to do whatever you're gonna do in a city or a town, it was actually just, like, anxiety riddled to me. I was like, all right, well, we got 2 hours left. We better make sure we make it to the port. By the time the boat's about to leave, me and boat almost got left.
[01:19:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:19:06] Speaker A: Like, I have no interest in being off of the boat when we go into port. I would just stay on, and that's the day. Like, I would make my whole day at the pool. There's nobody at the pool. Cause everybody got off the port and just.
Yeah, so cruise. I think. I think cruise anywhere, basically. I'd really be somewhere warm. Cause I wanna be able to walk out. Caribbean cruise. Yeah, anywhere there's warm I want to go.
[01:19:24] Speaker B: I'm marking you down for caribbean, maybe mediterranean. Okay, I'll just keep it a curse.
[01:19:28] Speaker A: You know, just wherever there's warm weather and a cruise.
[01:19:31] Speaker B: My wife's family just went on a mediterranean cruise earlier this year. They said it was fantastic.
[01:19:35] Speaker A: Was it warm when they went? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would think that would be a cool place to. So there's probably really.
[01:19:40] Speaker B: It was, like, may that they went, and it was like. It was. It was, like, late spring, so they're.
[01:19:45] Speaker A: Been in the Mediterranean because I can't speak to that. But I'll bet, like, the. There's different lands, landscapes, and things, and we don't see here.
[01:19:51] Speaker B: Right? Yeah.
[01:19:51] Speaker A: So anyway, number two. Number three cruise. Cruise number two.
Number two. I'm gonna go with Maine. Oh, nice coastal Maine. I don't really have any interest in going into the deep woods of Maine. That's basically Canada.
But going along the coast, some great stops along the way, quirky towns like gonquit and the harbor towns, things like Booth Bay Bay, bar Harbor.
[01:20:19] Speaker B: It's just such a.
[01:20:20] Speaker A: The natural coastline is cool in and of itself.
[01:20:23] Speaker B: It's just, like, raw and beautiful. Like, it's like, you get a lot of rocky areas versus, like, the. What you would think of as a beach.
[01:20:29] Speaker A: And to be fair, like, there's not a lot of, like, great beach then. Like, there's. There's great beach, like, visually and for hiking in that, but there's not a lot of, like, great beach for sunbathing.
[01:20:37] Speaker B: Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.
[01:20:38] Speaker A: But, you know, I could take care of getting a hotel with a pool, you know, if you want to get some sun. But I wouldn't go to Maine for the sun. What I'm going to Maine for is for. It's a beautiful lobster. I can. Yeah, it's quiet there. And the fresh seafood, especially lobster, you can get at bargain basement prices. Literally. You can buy a pound and a half lobster at a shack on the side of the road for, like, $12, and they just boil it there and. Delicious.
[01:21:03] Speaker B: Some of the best lobster rolls I've ever had.
[01:21:07] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I mean, the red seats in Wisconsin, on my deathbed, will be talking about red seats. It's the greatest place. It's the greatest sandwich I've ever had in my life. It's just a bunch of lobster.
[01:21:18] Speaker B: Your dad used to talk about reds all the time.
[01:21:19] Speaker A: Reds is absolutely fantastic. I. Anybody that is remotely likes lobster, I recommend that you go to Red's at some point in your life and get a red seats it's just a shack on the side of the road, but they fill your split top on with lobster like you've never seen before and it's incredible.
[01:21:35] Speaker B: Number one.
[01:21:38] Speaker A: So red seats, definitely got to go get red seats. Lobster, rock lobster.
There's also cool stuff to do in Maine too. Like you can like whale watching and stuff, fishing tours and things.
Number one. Number one for me, the Bahamas. This is the most expensive of the options here for me. Have to do the all inclusive.
There's something about the ease of like my airfare, hotel, all my food. When I get there, I know that I don't have to do anything besides be there. Yeah, that's fair. You're on the beach, people bring you drinks like, I don't have to. There's no tipping because it's all included in the cost of the resort.
You swim up bars, you spend all day, swim up in the bar there, there's.
The water in the Bahamas is so clear.
And I just remember the water, it was like 90 degrees. I mean, we went in October when we went, so it was like the end of summer. So the water was real warm. 90 degrees. It's crystal clear. You can see right down to the bottom of it. I almost stepped on a ray, but luckily I could see it because the water's crystal clear and died like the crocodile hunter.
[01:22:55] Speaker B: Rip.
Pour one out.
[01:22:59] Speaker A: Pouring out. Do you think the crocodiles were pissed at crocodile got. Hunter got taken out by somebody that wasn't a crocodile?
[01:23:04] Speaker B: Yeah, I wanted to do it his whole life.
[01:23:06] Speaker A: He was fed crocodile hunting and the crocs couldn't get him.
[01:23:09] Speaker B: Whatever that last crocodile is like, wait till next time.
[01:23:12] Speaker A: He just didn't get a chance. It wasn't even like a cool predator that got him.
[01:23:15] Speaker B: I don't know why a crocodile has that voice.
[01:23:19] Speaker A: More importantly though, the Bahamas, all inclusive, I just. That vacation to me is the ultimate vacation. Um, the fact that with your ticket to those places, you can, for a small upcharge, uh, book first class on all the flights, especially. Cause there's no, like, straight flights to the Bahamas. You gotta fly to Charlotte or you gotta fly to Miami, you gotta fly somewhere else to connect, go to the Bahamas. Um, so you're talking about four flights at least overall. And again for, I think the round trip flights to go coach were like 600 apiece. It was almost 1100 to do first class. So again, not a cheap vacation, but if you have the money to spend on an all inclusive vacation like that, and you can go somewhere like that, I recommend the first class because it's just so easy, so comfortable and it just makes everything so much easier. Delicious food, fresh sushi, good conch. Like everything that you want. Like it was right there. And the amenities are great in those resorts. I mean, you know, just right down to like, the fact that, like, in my room, I. They just come stocked with like your own bottle of rum, bottle of bourbon and your own rum.
[01:24:28] Speaker B: Rum, rum. Here it goes down. And when you turn to my belly.
[01:24:31] Speaker A: They just bring you another one.
[01:24:33] Speaker B: I love rum.
[01:24:34] Speaker A: So to me, nothing better than that. That's my favorite vacation.
[01:24:37] Speaker B: All right, cruise coastal Maine and Bahamas. Bone. Oh, what do you got?
[01:24:42] Speaker C: All right, so number three on the list, I have a hiking trip, Yosemite. So just being in Yosemite, probably the prettiest, most beautiful place I've ever been. Just, it was surreal. Some of the scenes you're looking at.
[01:24:56] Speaker B: It'S on my bucket list. We try and travel all the national parks, so it's definitely on the list.
[01:25:02] Speaker C: This one, I won a lottery basically to hike half dome. So I went with my brother and a buddy from work and we ended up selling my fourth spot to some lady at the top of the mountain who wanted to finish the hike.
[01:25:17] Speaker A: So is it dangerous? Are there like bears and coyotes out there, like just potentially run into?
[01:25:23] Speaker C: I guess so.
[01:25:24] Speaker B: I mean, you learn about that stuff before you go. But they are out there. I mean, has both.
[01:25:29] Speaker C: Yeah, there was a lot of people. I mean, it's very popular hikes.
[01:25:32] Speaker A: Like, I figured, like some of those places, there's so much people, the animals kind of stay away from those areas. But Yosemite's a really big, to me.
[01:25:39] Speaker B: Seems like Yosemite is a massive, massive part and you can actually take trips out into the, like brush into the wilderness and hike and camp overnight and stuff.
[01:25:51] Speaker A: Like where John Cusack was in 2012.
[01:25:53] Speaker B: Yeah, and like, people actually do that and even they're fine, like if you follow the proper procedures and things. But there's always a chance that there you'll run into a, you might sneak up on a grizzly bear on accident and then it'll eat you.
[01:26:05] Speaker A: I would be pissed if it went on vacation and then it ended because I got eaten by a bear.
[01:26:09] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, most of the places.
[01:26:10] Speaker A: That I'd be like, that's the worst vacation ever to your point.
[01:26:13] Speaker B: Most of the places you're going to see in Yosemite, Bone, you told me.
[01:26:16] Speaker A: You'Re going to be Yosemite and I got eaten by a bear.
[01:26:18] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[01:26:20] Speaker C: I mean, this was a I'm with you, Bone.
[01:26:22] Speaker B: Yosemite sounds awesome.
[01:26:22] Speaker C: This is a day trip. We started in the morning. We hiked the entire day, and then it was dark by the time we got off them, you know, off the trail.
[01:26:29] Speaker A: I've always thought, like, it seemed like that'd be a cool place to take, like, a camper van. Like, there was a lot of. She seems so huge. Like, you just drive around for days.
[01:26:37] Speaker B: So we're working on working up to buying a campervan so we could instead of flying to all these places.
[01:26:42] Speaker A: Like a sprinter wagon. Like a dope dot.
[01:26:49] Speaker C: Have you ever seen the movie free?
[01:26:52] Speaker B: I don't know what you're saying. No.
[01:26:54] Speaker A: We were loaded. Like sprinter wagon. The bed and stuff in the.
[01:26:56] Speaker B: No, what we want is we actually want simpler. I just want simpler than a sprinter wagon. I want, like, either a teardrop or, like, a pop up camper. Like, literally a place. A pool behind a place. Yeah, like a place for a bed and then the ones that have, like, the kitchen that comes off the back. I could actually, like, what if it's.
[01:27:12] Speaker A: Like, raining and cold and lightning out? Wouldn't you want that in the van so you can just boil water and make ramen in the car?
[01:27:17] Speaker B: No.
[01:27:17] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:27:18] Speaker B: No.
[01:27:20] Speaker A: I'm a wilderness guy.
[01:27:21] Speaker B: When I go camping, I still like to camp. So I like building a fire and stuff, but I like to. For emergency cases or just for, like, we have children now or a child, I should say.
I'd like to be able to, like, oh, well, she needs this, so I can actually give that to her.
[01:27:37] Speaker A: You want her to glamp and you should. You can camp? Yeah, I want to.
[01:27:40] Speaker B: I want a glamour, but I want a bed. I'm kind of to the point where, like, I'll camp in a tent every once in a while, but, like, I want to have a bed.
[01:27:48] Speaker A: Hurt your back?
[01:27:48] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Sorry, Bon. I completely hijacked your segment. Go ahead. You know Yosemite number three.
[01:27:54] Speaker C: Yeah, it was a good trip.
[01:27:55] Speaker B: Good trip number.
[01:27:56] Speaker C: So number two, I switching it up from actually what I have listed, but I'm going to say Key west.
[01:28:01] Speaker A: Ooh, nice.
[01:28:02] Speaker B: I do like Key west.
[01:28:02] Speaker C: We went down there for a wedding, and it was just kind of adults and family, and Key west was a blast from different, like, boost cruises and snorkeling cruises.
[01:28:13] Speaker B: Hardcore party scene down there.
[01:28:15] Speaker C: Absolutely. But also hardcore food scene.
[01:28:17] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:28:18] Speaker C: So much good food down there that we got to experience great happy hours. Did you go to the dry tortugas, even barbecue? Yes.
[01:28:25] Speaker B: You did the trip off to the island?
[01:28:27] Speaker C: No, no, no. Sorry. I was thinking at a different restaurant. I was talking about food, and then I thought you brought up a food reference.
[01:28:35] Speaker B: No, I didn't. I was. I changed gears. Adhd. I'm sorry.
[01:28:37] Speaker C: Yeah, but a lot of fun. A lot of fun. And my last one. So my number one trip is Rosemary Beach, Florida, on the Gulf coast. I love the Gulf coast.
[01:28:48] Speaker A: Gulf coast is beautiful.
[01:28:50] Speaker C: Just the. You're not getting beat up by the waves. You can just go chill in the water.
[01:28:54] Speaker B: So warm.
[01:28:54] Speaker C: It's crystal clear. Absolutely beautiful. Just wonderful. And this whole. This town, Rosemary beach is a planned town. It was like built in the 1990s. It all like, kind of looks medieval. It has just this gridded whatever, the way it's constructed. So it's very bike friendly. Everywhere you go. You can just travel on bikes or walk or whatever it is. Great places to eat. Just beautiful beaches. But then I like having a vehicle when I go on vacation, so I like. I like driving. Honestly, Nashville is directly in half. If you want to drive to the Gulf coast right there. And the panhandle, you. You stop in Nashville, you leave like at four in the morning, you get to there at lunchtime, spend the whole day in Nashville, spend the night, wake up in the morning, drive the other 7 hours to the Gulf coast. We would have been just like a solid trip.
[01:29:42] Speaker B: We wouldn't be able to do that. We'd have to spend an extra night in Nashville.
[01:29:45] Speaker C: You could spend two nights there.
[01:29:47] Speaker B: We'd be obliterated.
[01:29:48] Speaker A: That would be on my honorable mentions for sure. Coast. Cause we did the same thing when we went down. We stayed in Alabama, Gulf shores, and we stopped literally at lunchtime for Eden Nashville on the way down.
[01:29:59] Speaker B: Well, you shut the hell up. You don't get an honorable mention yet because I haven't done mine.
[01:30:02] Speaker A: Sorry.
[01:30:04] Speaker B: All right, so bones is Yosemite, key west in Rosemary Beach, Florida. And so my hot three this week, Maine. Number one for Acadia. We went to. We made a trip out to Maine. It went to Acadia National park, did tons of hiking.
[01:30:19] Speaker A: That sounds like the wilderness of Canada.
[01:30:21] Speaker B: No, it's not. It's literally right on the coast. Acadia is on the coast.
[01:30:24] Speaker A: Oh, coastal.
[01:30:25] Speaker B: Like, it comes in a little bit because it's like you can't. The whole thing can't be the coast.
[01:30:30] Speaker A: The coast is where I stay.
[01:30:33] Speaker B: Yeah, the park is actually on the coast. Like, part of the park is the coast right there. But no.
[01:30:38] Speaker A: Can I hijack your segment real quick? The other thing I really loved about Maine was we take our dog everywhere with us.
[01:30:44] Speaker B: So dog friendly.
[01:30:45] Speaker A: Maine was so dog friendly. So there was a super easy trip to the.
[01:30:48] Speaker B: You could take them everywhere that national park. Not little known fact, not all national parks are pet friendly at all. Like, there's a lot of trails in the national parks you're not allowed to have dogs on because they could either whether it's going to the bathroom or you're not cleaning up after them or just disrupting wildlife and things that they're trying to preserve.
There's a lot of. A lot of national parks that are not dog friendly.
Acadia is one of the most dog friendly national parks in the nation.
[01:31:16] Speaker A: It doesn't surprise me. I mean, it seems like everybody brings their dogs everywhere and you can bring your dog.
[01:31:21] Speaker B: It was awesome. So many patios that we could eat on. So like after we were done hiking, we would just take him downtown. Right on that. I forget what the name of the. What's the. I can't think of the town on the coast.
[01:31:31] Speaker A: Portland.
[01:31:32] Speaker B: No, it's like in the park almost. If I heard it, I would know it. But that little town has like five or six or seven really nice restaurants and they all have patios where your pets can sit and stuff. So it was cool. Really liked me. We did a full day mountain hike with him. Started at the bottom of the biggest hike that was there and went all the way up and all the way back down. And it was beautiful.
[01:31:57] Speaker A: Well, if you don't come back down, used to be the top of the mountain.
[01:31:59] Speaker B: Yeah. It also. Fun fact in Acadia, if you go up to the top of that mountain, you could just drive up there too. So if you go up to the top of that mountain early in the morning, that's the first point in the US that receives sunlight every day. And so if you watch the sunrise from up there, you are the first person to see the sun in the United States.
[01:32:20] Speaker A: Interesting.
[01:32:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:32:21] Speaker C: Cool.
[01:32:21] Speaker A: Do you know the main is the.
[01:32:22] Speaker B: We did that too.
[01:32:23] Speaker A: So that's closest us state to Africa.
[01:32:25] Speaker B: No, but I do know, like on a map, it's like all weird how it's drawn and actually we're like directly across from, like things that are much lower than you think we're directly across from. So.
But anyways, number two Smoky mountains. I got engaged there at the top of chimney tops. If you've ever been to chimney tops, done the chimney tops hike. That's where my wife and I got engaged.
She knew something was up because she's. She's got great endurance when we're hiking and she was like, why are you, like, sprinting up this hill? And she didn't know what was up, but she knew that something was going on because I was basically running up the things. My adrenaline was pumping. But Smokey mountains, tons of great views, tons of great hiking. There. Just a fun town to be, like any of those small towns around there are just fun to be in. Um, and, yeah, I mean, it also right down the road is, uh, uh, Dolly world. So you got that going for you, too, if you like amusement parks.
[01:33:25] Speaker A: Dolly world.
[01:33:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Dolly. Yeah. Dolly world. Dolly. Dolly. Dolly. Dolly.
[01:33:31] Speaker C: Dollywood.
[01:33:32] Speaker B: Dollywood. Dollywood. That's what I said. Dolly. It might as well be Dolly world. Have you ever been there?
[01:33:38] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[01:33:39] Speaker C: Water park and amusement park.
[01:33:40] Speaker B: Yeah. See, uh, but, yeah, so the Smoky mountains. Love the smoky mountains. And then my number one, it's where we honeymooned, is Costa Rica.
And Costa Rica was phenomenal.
Just so much to do. And you can go from one area to another. We stayed inland and kind of in the middle of the country to start, which was, like, up by, like, the volcanoes and stuff. Just tons of jungle, tons of different hiking excursions. You can go on, like, four wheeling up in the. In the jungle and stuff. So it was. It was really cool. Great views up there. And then the second half, we moved down and went to one of the resorts on the beach, and some of their. Their beaches are so pretty. And we did a catamaran trip out just off the coast.
And on that, we got to see humpback whales.
[01:34:38] Speaker A: Now, were you on a day trip or did you spend it on the boat?
[01:34:40] Speaker B: It was just a day trip. So we went out, like, early in the morning, and then we were there until, like, three or 04:00 p.m. they.
[01:34:45] Speaker A: Feed you lunch or something.
[01:34:46] Speaker B: They gave you lunch. They gave you, like, all the alcohol you could drink, which we actually didn't drink that much until the way back. We got pretty. Got pretty lit on the way back, but we wanted to be able to get to snorkel when you get out there and stuff. So that was one of the highlights of my entire life, was that catamaran trip. It was awesome.
[01:35:04] Speaker A: So, cats, a cool boat to ride.
[01:35:06] Speaker B: But, yeah, Costa Rica, it was. I can't say enough good things about Costa Rica. So many cool things to see there, and it's all packed into such a tiny little country.
[01:35:13] Speaker A: So Costa Rica kind of makes me scared.
[01:35:16] Speaker B: It shouldn't.
[01:35:17] Speaker A: Seems like a place I might get kidnapped.
[01:35:19] Speaker B: It's not. It was. It was a little.
[01:35:21] Speaker A: There's a lot of movies where you get kidnapped in Costa Rica.
[01:35:23] Speaker B: I will tell you this, it was a little jar. You know, in America, we don't realize, um, like, how many resources we have here.
[01:35:32] Speaker A: Oh.
[01:35:33] Speaker B: And so going down to Costa Rica, it was jarring for me. Um, you know, we were kind of walking around the resort and stuff, and, like, it was stuff that you, like. I don't know how to explain. It just looked like not that great of an area. Like, stuff was kind of falling apart. Things were run down a little bit, and I just felt a little uncomfortable. But the more we walked around there, you just kind of have to understand that, like, their country isn't quite financially on the same level as our country.
[01:36:01] Speaker A: I think that's the biggest thing.
[01:36:02] Speaker B: And so once you realize, like, this is just a way, like, nothing against anything or whatever, but this is just, like, a way of life difference. It's just. It's just a wealth difference. And so, like, you realize, oh, this isn't a bad neighborhood. This is just, you know, maybe some things are a little rundown here and there or whatever. And I got used to it pretty quickly. I was. I will say, when we first got there, I was. I was nervous, though.
[01:36:22] Speaker A: So Gatlinburg would have also been my honorable mentions. Gatlinburg, smoking mountains. It's a good time.
[01:36:29] Speaker B: This got lengthy, but yeah. So that'll do it for the hot three.
Kenny, I think it's time for an interview.
[01:36:35] Speaker A: It is. Who are we interviewing?
[01:36:37] Speaker B: Well, we're going to do a Brownsbackers interview, something we started last year. We're continuing this year is our Brownsbackers interview series. We're doing it to highlight Brownsbackers chapters from around the world.
[01:36:47] Speaker A: We love the Brownsbaggers, and we do.
[01:36:48] Speaker B: This because obviously they're dope Browns fans, but they're also really good people doing a lot of great charity work around their communities.
[01:36:58] Speaker A: I'll say this, some of the best people we've met. I mean, like, you get into doing something like a podcast and you never really know where it's going to lead. And we've had some cool opportunities to go do things and meet different people. I mean, including all the alumni interviews and things we did last year to meet ex Browns players and things. Some of the best people that we've met in this venture are brownsbackers.
[01:37:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Not just the president, just the members, too.
[01:37:23] Speaker A: Just people that, like, we now, like, consider friends. Like, like, text us and like, hey, how's it. How's it going?
[01:37:28] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. And there's a reason why this continues to be a series on our show. So, yes. With that, let's go ahead and get into the next interview in that series.
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[01:37:47] Speaker B: All right, so for this Brownsbackers interview, I am proud to welcome someone who we had the pleasure of being able to meet in person and work with on the 2024 Browns fan cruise. Please help me welcome the president of the Punta Gorda Charlotte county, or PGCC Brownsbackers. Amber.
[01:38:08] Speaker A: Know you're gonna say last name or not.
[01:38:11] Speaker B: Amber, thank you so much for joining us. We really appreciate it. How are you today?
[01:38:17] Speaker D: Ah, doing great. You know, try not to sweat my balls off here in Florida.
[01:38:23] Speaker B: It's hot down there, huh?
So, yeah. So real quick, Amber, tell us a little bit. First of all, we kind of do this with every chapter that we talk to. Tell us a little bit about your chapter. Things like, you know, when you guys were established, what's your viewing locations and how many members you have.
[01:38:42] Speaker D: So I. So the Punta Gorda, Charlotte county bronze backers, they were established officially in 2015. I took over two years ago. I think it was two years ago. Yeah. And, yeah, we have met all over Punta Gorda and Charlotte county.
We've had a bunch of different locations. One of our biggest issues is, because we are such a large chapter, it's really hard to find a location that will hold us. So right now, we have all star sports bar or all star sports girl in Charlotte county. It's right off of us, 41. And they've got a whole dedicated section inside for us, which is extremely important in Florida because it is so hot and it's so early in the season. Like, if there's not fans, like, you can't go. And I don't mean fans like people who come. Like, it's like the spinning kinds of fans. Like, if there's not hands there, we can't have guests. So we've had, like. I think we've had four different chapter presidents since 2015. I think I'm the fourth, which is really exciting for me.
I'm actually a born and raised Florida native, but my dad was a Browns fan, raised me a Browns fan. He passed away a couple years ago. So me becoming president is really kind of like me. Like, really living through him.
I love it.
[01:40:11] Speaker B: What a legacy to leave. I mean, more Browns fans. What better.
What could you do better on this earth?
[01:40:18] Speaker A: Be a Browns fan now was your father and his family.
[01:40:25] Speaker B: That's right. That's right. Get it right. I'm sorry. I apologize.
[01:40:29] Speaker A: Now, was your father and his family, are theydehethere originally from Cleveland?
[01:40:35] Speaker D: Yeah. So my dad grew up in Cuyahoga Falls. His last name's Shabbati. One of my uncles. Well, I have a family that definitely still lives up there.
I think one of my uncles was a super attendant around there. And then I, like, I have another uncle who is in Florida, and he actually runs an animal shelter down here, and that kind of ties into one of our, like, community partners that we deal with. Sorry, but that's like, I'm like, I jump in between all the things.
[01:41:06] Speaker B: Oh, you're good, you're good, you're good. So before we get to some of your partners in the community service work that you're doing, you mentioned multiple locations, or you mentioned that you guys have trouble finding a location because you have so many members. How many members do you guys have?
[01:41:24] Speaker D: So we're actually the second largest chapter in the world right now. We have 700 registered members. We're just behind the Chicago dog pound, which. Or the Chi town dog pound. Sorry, Chicago.
And they are the largest one. So we're the second. So, like, we're always trying to, like, catch up to them. We actually. We were the largest in, I think it was 2019, right before COVID We were the largest.
[01:41:49] Speaker A: We.
[01:41:49] Speaker D: There's, like, a news article you can find about our area. We were. It was. It was pretty cool. Our chapter president, Doug, was doing a really awesome job of recruiting members, making sure everybody signed up, but. So, yeah, right now, we're the numbers two, which I'm not.
We've got.
Oh, yeah, so many people. We have. So. And, I mean, you have no idea. So every weekend, I meet so many new people that are friends or family of people who are already my registered members, and they all re register with me because I am very, like, persistent. I'm like, hi, here.
[01:42:35] Speaker B: You're a Cleveland Browns backers chapter president.
That's what you're supposed to do, right?
[01:42:43] Speaker D: Yeah. Well, you know, because not everybody knows. People are like, oh. Like, I live in Cleveland and I'm not a member. And I'm like, well, okay, well, you're registered to me now, but little do people know you can be registered to more than one chapter.
[01:42:59] Speaker B: So what I was going to ask, how do these numbers work? This is a sticking point for me because I go on the Brownsbackers website. Those numbers aren't even close to what all of you know, what the actual numbers are. I think you guys, if I'm not mistaken, says 254 right now, which is nowhere near 700 and some on ours. Yeah, they're all wrong. They're all wrong because we've talked to multiple groups. The Browns. I'm just talking about the website, the Brownsbackers website, which is run by the Cleveland Browns. Take that for what it is.
I don't think so.
[01:43:43] Speaker D: I just approved two members today and I hit 700. And I was like, yes, I'm gonna find this.
[01:43:49] Speaker B: I'm gonna find this while we're gone, but can't.
[01:43:50] Speaker A: So, so how many people do you actually have show up worldwide?
[01:43:57] Speaker B: We're battling.
[01:43:59] Speaker A: So how many people do actually have show up for your watch parties consistently?
[01:44:04] Speaker D: So, okay. In the beginning of the season, because we are more of a snow type of location. Like 50 to 100 will be, you know, the early preseason, August, September, October ish games. And then once it starts getting into, like, the cooler months, November, December, we can get 100, 5200 people at our location. But that's also one of the biggest issues with where we're located. There's not a. A lot of bars that can hold that many people in the area that we would like. So a lot of people will go to other places just because they don't want to fight for a seat or they don't want to, you know, have to worry about where they're going to be.
So, yeah, it's kind of like a hit or miss. We don't have, like, a location that can hold 250 people easy with all of the tvs and greatest of deals and everyone be happy. So have you definitely.
[01:45:09] Speaker A: Have you ever tried to, I guess, maybe split viewing locations to have where you have maybe two or three locations?
[01:45:15] Speaker D: No, I have not, but, I mean, that would definitely be.
[01:45:20] Speaker B: We just talked to the Dallas area brownsbackers last week. The Dallas area brownsbackers have, I think.
[01:45:25] Speaker A: Four locations, and they're adding a fifth.
[01:45:27] Speaker B: Yeah. So just, just food for thought. But the Browns have officially showed me because I went and they must have updated their website recently, because when I searched you guys to find your information, to reach out, I swear it said 200 something. Now it says 700.
[01:45:48] Speaker A: So the bottom light is. Bottom line is Amber's right and Ronnie's wrong.
[01:45:52] Speaker B: Story of my life.
[01:45:57] Speaker D: I check that thing regular basis because there is another club that's. That's creeping up. And so I am on the recruitment hunt to make sure that that doesn't happen.
I don't want to be number three. I'm being number two, but I don't want to be number three.
[01:46:14] Speaker B: Listen, we would sign on and be members, but we can't we? We technically.
[01:46:19] Speaker A: Can the burning river sports cast join, be members?
[01:46:22] Speaker B: Yeah, but then. Then the Browns can tell us what we can and can't say.
[01:46:25] Speaker A: Oh, that's true.
[01:46:26] Speaker D: You can be members of as many clubs as you want, so there is no limit.
[01:46:31] Speaker B: I'm doing.
I'm joining.
[01:46:36] Speaker D: Yeah, you should do it. If they do an interview, you join, and then.
[01:46:40] Speaker B: All right, you know, I guess I'm on.
[01:46:42] Speaker A: You talked us into it.
[01:46:43] Speaker B: We're gonna be honorary members at every single rounds. Backers organization that we've interviewed. I've got a lot of work to do, but now let's talk about some of the community service that you guys.
[01:46:55] Speaker A: Are getting involved with.
[01:46:56] Speaker B: You already mentioned some of your partners, but tell us about them more. What charities are you working with? What are you guys doing down there in your community?
[01:47:06] Speaker D: So our main charity that we work with is Animal Welfare league of Fort Charlotte.
They're an animal rescue. You like a.
I'm like, hold on. I have a whole thing.
They do a lot of, like, animal intakes for homeless animals. So they're an amazing group of staff and volunteers who dedicate themselves to homeless pets through shelter, nourishment, enrichment activities, veterinary care training, and, um, socialization. That was horrible. And an abundance of love.
They go above and beyond in their quest to ensure that every animal that comes through their door finds a loving home. I'm like, should I do that again? Was that. Was that bad? No, no.
[01:48:00] Speaker B: Those guys gonna ask you, do you. Do you. Do you work for them?
Are you an actual volunteer? Like, you're an actual. That was great.
[01:48:09] Speaker D: I should be, you know, I mean, in all honesty, I should be, because we do do a lot with them, but it just, you know, because we have a lot of retired people in our group, and so I really make an effort to try to push them to spend some of their time with these animals at these shelters.
But, you know, you can only request people do so much.
[01:48:33] Speaker B: Yeah. If you ever get trouble down there in Florida, you could probably use all this for your community service, because it sounds like you're doing a lot with.
[01:48:43] Speaker D: Yeah. Come down to Florida, be part of my browns backers, and I can get you your community service.
[01:48:52] Speaker A: I was gonna say that was actually probably one of the best descriptions of charity or group that any of the brownsbackers we've talked to has given us about who they work with. I was very thorough.
[01:49:02] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:49:05] Speaker D: You know, I took it from the.
[01:49:06] Speaker B: Tell us that.
[01:49:09] Speaker A: Just pretend like you memorized it.
[01:49:11] Speaker D: You knew the whole thing to, like, make sure. That you're representing another group. Well, it's like, if you want to talk, if you want to be talking about somebody else, it's like, you should probably do it with their words, not your own.
[01:49:29] Speaker A: I'm being sincere. I think that was a very. That was great for us because oftentimes we'll ask, like, hey, what are you. Who you guys working with? And we get, like, a name of, you know, ABC charity. And that's kind of all we get. Like, that was. That was nice to have actual context and background, like, who you're working with.
[01:49:43] Speaker B: Well, thanks.
[01:49:44] Speaker D: They're really awesome. I mean, so they do, like, especially during, like, when we have the snowbird season, they try to encourage a lot of people to come down and just walk a dog. Like, just come down and walk a dog. Like, you don't even have to get, like, registered or, like, anything with them. You just come and, like, take a dog for, like, a ten minute walk, you know, just to get them out of their kennel and get them, like, new experiences. So, I mean, it's. It's one of those things where we're, like, we're in such a weird area where there's not a lot of people who may be young, which is, like, a weird thing to say. We don't have a really. We don't have a lot of young members in our chapter, and it's not a lot of young people who are just, like, working in Punta Gordon, Port Charlotte. It's a lot of people who are just, like, here living and enjoying their time in Florida. And I don't mean that in a bad way.
[01:50:40] Speaker B: Would people in Punta Gordo be mad if I called Florida heavens waiting room?
[01:50:48] Speaker D: I don't think so.
[01:50:52] Speaker B: That's kind of a Florida.
[01:50:56] Speaker D: No, I mean, but any. No, it. That's more of, like, I would say that's more of, like, Naples area, but apparently, too. And I don't know.
I have no idea. I go to Naples every now and then. Not for the brownsbackers, but, like, I have no idea. Okay. Yeah, no clue.
[01:51:21] Speaker B: So Robert over at the Naples Browns backers, when Amber comes to visit, she's like, damn, I thought we were old.
[01:51:28] Speaker A: I can't believe. I can't believe you guys are still alive.
[01:51:34] Speaker D: Actually, when I see his pictures, I'm like, where are your members coming from? Like, tell me how you got them. Like, you guys are both very good at so much.
He does, like, golf things and, like, trips to, like, Everblades games and, like, do. My members are like, listen, we Robert's.
[01:52:02] Speaker B: A good dude over there. You guys are both very good examples of what brownsbackers presidents should be. But we're not here to talk about the Naples Brownsbacker. We're going to keep talking about you. So, great work you guys are doing out there in your community, all this charity work you're doing for that organization.
But with that, is there any upcoming events that you're hosting or anything that you're looking forward to here?
[01:52:27] Speaker D: So. Not right now, but I. So we just recently donated our last season's 50 50 raffles to the Animal Welfare league. They had their. One of their board members come out and hang out with our club for week one and then receive their donation, which was really awesome. His name was Charles. He was really cool. And he discussed with us having some dogs come out to the bar and hang out just to get them out of the shelter for summer enrichment, just like, you know, have a little dog pound at the dog pound. So we're really hoping to get that worked out with all stars for a couple of the games this season, hopefully ones that are not too hot.
[01:53:11] Speaker B: Well, when you do, let us know, and we'll definitely share the details on all of our social media here.
[01:53:16] Speaker D: Great.
[01:53:17] Speaker B: But on the football side of things, I do want to get over. Do you have one more?
[01:53:21] Speaker A: I just had a. I had a personal question.
Just. Just that you live where you live, and you kind of mentioned, like, casually, like, oh, sometimes I go to Naples. Like, where do you vacation at, like, when you live in paradise?
[01:53:37] Speaker D: Honestly, as of right now, I go on cruises.
[01:53:42] Speaker A: That's the only thing that's hot, where you live.
[01:53:46] Speaker D: Ever since the Browns fan cruise, I have just, like, I've been on, I think, four cruises since there. And, I mean, it's just so easy.
[01:53:58] Speaker A: You just.
[01:53:58] Speaker D: You just drive to the port. I rent a car because it's cheaper than leaving your car at the parking lot. So we rent a car, drop the car off, and then you get on the ship, and then you're just doing whatever you want for 4567 days, and then. And you go to the Caribbean, and, I mean, and then you come back and you rent another car, and you drive it home, and then you're like.
[01:54:24] Speaker B: It'S probably so much better when you're not working, too.
[01:54:28] Speaker D: Yeah. Oh, my God. It's so much better when you're not working. You guys know, I went. I went on a third cruise, so I was on the cruise before the Browns fan cruise to prep, and then I was on the Browns fan cruise to work. And then I went on another cruise.
[01:54:47] Speaker B: Right afterwards, and that was vacation to decompress.
[01:54:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:54:52] Speaker B: Good choice.
[01:54:53] Speaker D: And it was another port, so I had to drive, actually, to another port to get on the ship. It was awesome, but it was fun.
But actually, on another note, one of my favorite places to vacation in Florida is Disney, and I'm not a Disney pass holder, so I like to just go to Disney Springs.
You can go and you can stay around Disney. We're very low cost.
Yeah. And you can get, like, great happy hour prices. There's this place. It's, like, this little indian place. It has, like, $4 beers, and they're, like, big beers.
So you just go and you get, like, two or three of those, and you're, like, good for, like, you know, half the day. And then you go back for their late night happy hour before you go back to your hotel. Perfect.
[01:55:48] Speaker A: And then just crushing happy hours.
[01:55:53] Speaker D: Seriously, there's.
[01:55:54] Speaker B: You can.
[01:55:55] Speaker D: You can google it. There's Disney Springs. Happy hour hops.
[01:55:59] Speaker A: Nice.
Our board operator, bone, he's a big fan of Disney.
[01:56:05] Speaker D: Oh, we love bone.
[01:56:09] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:56:10] Speaker C: Disney's fun.
Disney Springs is a blast.
[01:56:15] Speaker D: Disney Springs is a blast.
Monorail crawl, Disney resort, and popping, all of it.
[01:56:24] Speaker B: We just talked about our vacation spots. Bone. Is that one of your vacation spots? I didn't include it, but no fitting that we're talking about vacation spots when we just talked about. But like I said, we are going to. I do have to push it forward.
[01:56:40] Speaker A: I'm just curious.
[01:56:42] Speaker B: Kenny likes to derail everything onto the football side of things. What did you think of week one, and is it time to panic?
[01:56:52] Speaker D: So, okay. As a club president, it is actually extremely hard to watch some of the games just because we are working with our members and, like, setting raffles and stuff up for halftime. So a lot of the times, I don't even get the chance to watch the game until after halftime. After all of my ticket sales and everything is done, all my raffles are pulled.
So with that being said, I definitely could feel a vibe from my club while I was doing everything in the beginning of the week one game. So I thought that was very strange because normally everybody is extremely, like, cheery, and there's a lot of animation in the club. Like, my club members are not quiet. Like, they're extremely vocal, and there was just really not a lot going on, which I thought was very strange. And then once it got to halftime, I was like, okay, like, I can start watching the game. And at that time, it's like, wait, what's going on. So when I did get home later that night, I ended up watching the condensed version of the game. And so the first, like, quarter, I mean, I thought, not horrible, but definitely not, like, on page with everybody else, you know, like, it just kind of seemed like, you know, week one, like they were just kind of trying to figure stuff out. And then as it went on, it just kept happening. And you're like, then I got worse.
[01:58:36] Speaker B: Why?
[01:58:37] Speaker D: Why is everybody on the same page? Like, like, where is the disconnect? And then after halftime, it was like, okay, no, nobody's, nobody cares. Nobody's on the same page.
[01:58:50] Speaker B: It's just a total, we talked about body language. Everything was completely off for all the players. It was awful. So with that, I mean, I guess the second question there, is it time to panic? Are you panicking? Are your members panicking?
[01:59:06] Speaker D: I mean, of course, as a Browns fan, I'm never panicking because, you know, we're always panicking.
[01:59:15] Speaker B: We're always panicking.
[01:59:17] Speaker D: Well, I mean, okay, like, you have that, that hope deep inside. Like, sure, we're panicking. I mean, I'm sure. I'm like, yay. I'm like, another Browns season. But at the same time, I'm like, we can do it. We can do it. Okay. You don't start panicking until, like, week three.
Yeah, you gotta give them, like a week or two. Like, come on.
[01:59:47] Speaker B: Okay. Okay. So week three is when we hit the panic button.
[01:59:53] Speaker D: Maybe. I don't know. Wait, who do we play? Week three, we play the giants.
[01:59:58] Speaker B: We play, but we have the game coming up this week with the Jacksonville Jaguars down there in Florida.
[02:00:03] Speaker D: Jacksonville. I know. I'm going. I'm going. I'm excited.
[02:00:07] Speaker B: So let's kind of move forward to that game here. How do you think that one's going to go? Do you have any predictions for the game?
[02:00:16] Speaker D: I think. I think they'll be good. I think.
I think that after last week, maybe Deshawn will be in a better, I mean, I don't know, headspace or not so much pressure being in the dog pound, you know, being at home. Maybe he'll feel more relaxed to just get his job done, you know, maybe. I mean, I'm not happy that Nujoku is definitely not playing. That was a super frustrating loss. That was like equivalent of Chubb in my book. You know, I mean, tight end wise, it's like, that's a huge loss for us, and I hope he comes back as soon as possible because he is one of those players on the team that really kind of, I think, holds the heart, and he's a tone setter for sure.
Watson is not holding our heart. So I think that's where one of our biggest issues lie, is that without any of those players have a part of the team.
[02:01:26] Speaker B: Yeah. And you actually just mentioned something that was really interesting to me, and I hadn't. I hadn't heard anybody say this before, but I can see where you're coming from is the fact that maybe being away from home, he will be more comfortable. And so do you think that that's a serious issue when you're your. Your quarterback is more comfortable on the road than he is being in front of his own fans?
[02:01:50] Speaker D: I mean, yes, 100%. Because that just shows your insecurity, because I feel like it. It's just. It's just not a good look for you to not feel comfortable with your fans. And I think that it's not something that I'm asking for Cleveland fans to do is to give their support to him. Not at all, because I don't think he's shown any, like, any proof that he deserves our support, which is extremely frustrating because with all of the money and all of the draft picks and all of the time that we've put into him, it's like, you want to support him, but it's like how, you know, I mean, it's like, that's like a relationship. It's. How do you put trust into someone in a relationship when they've shown you nothing? So until he shows us that he's not going to get the vibe that he wants from Cleveland, that he needs to. To perform better, so, I mean, I think he probably will do better on the road just for that fact.
[02:03:00] Speaker B: No, and that's very well put. And that's. I mean, like I said when you said it the first time, I had never actually thought about it before, but then when I, you know, you explaining it right now and me thinking more and more about it these last few minutes, like, that makes perfect sense.
[02:03:15] Speaker A: We do a lot of psychoanalyzing under John Watson, and that's a.
[02:03:19] Speaker B: Because you have to.
[02:03:20] Speaker A: And that's it. That is definitely a unique take.
[02:03:25] Speaker D: I mean.
I mean, and it's. It's a tricky situation for Stefanski to even think about going in there and saying, you know, like, hey, maybe we bench him with. Even with all the money that we've put in all the draft picks. So it's like, how do you even approach that kind of situation, like, from.
[02:03:49] Speaker B: Stefanski to do that? Right.
[02:03:52] Speaker D: Maybe that'll happen in the winter when they're frozen.
[02:03:57] Speaker A: There's been so many balls in this interview.
[02:04:03] Speaker B: So, bottom line here, now that Kenny brought us back down to earth with our ball talk.
But bottom line here, you think the Browns are going to play better? You think that DeShawn will be able to perform a little bit better on the road? So do you have a score prediction for this game?
[02:04:22] Speaker D: Score prediction? Well, I'm going to be at the game, so it's like, I want to be over presumptuous, but I also don't want to let myself down too much. So I'm going to go with, like, 1710. Like, I think it'll be like, a couple scores, but, like, nothing crazy. And, like, not close, but, like, kind of close, but, like, I don't know. I'm. I'm hoping for.
I've got. I've got a Ford in my fantasy lineup, and I'm pretty sure I'm going to start him because I want someone. Well, I mean, I'm going to cheer for the Browns, obviously, but it's always more fun when you've got a fantasy football player in the lineup.
[02:05:05] Speaker B: Absolutely. Absolutely. So you heard it here. 1st. 1710. That's the score.
[02:05:10] Speaker A: I like it.
[02:05:11] Speaker B: I like it. I like it, too. I think it's. I think you're on the right track there.
But listen, Amber, I wish we could stay and talk to you just much, much longer than we have, but unfortunately, we got to squeeze all this into, like, a. This one's gonna be, like a three hour. So we appreciate. Appreciate your time. It's been really great.
You know, good luck to your chapter on the rest of the season and get those recruits up. Maybe you'll be the number one by the end of the season.
[02:05:38] Speaker D: Thanks so much.
Great talking to you guys.
[02:05:41] Speaker B: Yep, you, too. Thank you.
[02:05:45] Speaker D: I'm Amber with the Punta Gorda Charlotte County Brownsbackers, also known as PGCC brownsbackers. And you're listening to the burning river sports cast. Go, Brown.
[02:06:00] Speaker B: Hey. Good time talking with Amber, huh?
[02:06:03] Speaker A: Amber again. We were just talking about make friends with somebody like Amber. We met on the fan cruise.
[02:06:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
[02:06:09] Speaker A: I mean, she's one of the good ones, for sure. Always fun to talk with Amber.
[02:06:13] Speaker B: Yeah. And in case you guys don't know, I mean, Amber did a lot of work on that fan cruise. She basically runs the fan cruise.
She does a lot of great work for the fan crews in addition to running a huge brownsbaggers, and she helps put that whole thing on. So just good people. Good people.
[02:06:33] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. No, we appreciate her time because always good to catch up.
[02:06:37] Speaker B: Yeah. But let's take a quick revenue break and then get back here and talk about the week two matchup with sunshine and the Jaguars.
[02:06:44] Speaker A: Sunshine.
[02:06:47] Speaker B: You stopping it now? You're just rolling.
[02:06:49] Speaker A: I'm gonna just keep letting mine go cause I'm scared to touch it at this point, so I'm just gonna keep. You can stop this one.
[02:06:54] Speaker B: Do you need me to do another voice recording for this?
[02:06:56] Speaker A: As frequently as you would like to. Yeah, just record it.
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All right, and so, guys, it's coming up.
[02:07:47] Speaker A: What?
[02:07:47] Speaker B: It's coming up. I mean, I guess we're still a little bit a ways away, but it's coming up. Burning river sportscast is going to help take. Help the dog pound take over New Orleans.
[02:07:56] Speaker A: Hell yes.
[02:07:56] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[02:07:57] Speaker B: Yeah. New Orleans. The New Orleans trip that we're going on, true fan travel is putting this thing on. Basically what true fan travel does is they put together, let's just call it, they make away games, home games. They put together travel packages to send you to away games.
It's all inclusive. It includes hotel, flight, all kinds of different events while you're there and tickets to the game. So this particular package for New Orleans includes optional round trip, private charter flight, three night stay at Renaissance New Orleans pere Marquette French Quarter welcome party. That is an all inclusive cruise down the Mississippi river with the dog pound, a Q and a with Kevin Mac. And I'm sure there'll be some autographs there as well, a pep rally the night before the game, and an all inclusive tailgate the day of the game, as well as your tickets to that game at the Superdome, which happens to be where the Super bowl will be played this year.
All this plus on site trip coordinators, just in case something were to go awry.
What do you think?
[02:08:58] Speaker A: So I was distracted there. I was sent a rumor that the Browns were trading for Joe Flacco or looking to make a trade, and I had to vet it out, and it turns out at this point, it's not. Not happening. But for a second, I got super hard.
Anyway, we cannot wait to go to New Orleans. Maybe by the time we go to New Orleans, the Browns will trade it.
[02:09:17] Speaker C: For Joe Flacco, or Jamis will be playing.
[02:09:19] Speaker A: Or James will be playing. Yes.
[02:09:21] Speaker B: Playing his former team.
[02:09:22] Speaker A: Yes. He'll eat so many w's, and we're gonna eat so many beignets. And what'd you call him earlier?
[02:09:32] Speaker B: I don't know if I'm allowed to say it again.
[02:09:34] Speaker A: Okay, we won't go there.
[02:09:37] Speaker B: I'm not saying it again until I know for sure I'm allowed to say it. That's right. Smart.
[02:09:41] Speaker A: Because I don't know whether. Hey, I don't know exactly what you said, and I don't know whether it's allowed or not either. Anyways, can't wait to go to New Orleans. Beignets. Super dope. That'd be a great trip. I'm super turnt about the cruise down the Mississippi River. I love boats. I love cruises. We just talked about my favorite vacations or cruises, even though I've only been on one.
[02:10:06] Speaker B: There's just something about the burning river sports cast and cruises.
[02:10:08] Speaker A: Something about us and cruises. So. Yeah. Cannot wait. Cannot wait.
[02:10:12] Speaker B: Yeah, bone, you're coming, too. What do you think?
[02:10:14] Speaker C: Oh, I'm excited. I'm excited for the food. Yeah. Whatever we get into. Superdome food, Mississippi river. It's me. A blast.
[02:10:20] Speaker B: That's about as excited as I've ever seen, bone, I liked it.
[02:10:23] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Last week when he was sitting in for you, he was excited about this.
[02:10:26] Speaker B: He was like, I like traveling.
[02:10:29] Speaker C: Yeah, I enjoyed it.
[02:10:30] Speaker B: Nice.
[02:10:31] Speaker A: And so luckily, we have a partner to travel with. With true fan travel.
[02:10:35] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. And speaking of true fan travel, it's time for the week three preview brought to you by true fan travel.
[02:10:40] Speaker A: True fan travel.
[02:10:48] Speaker B: All right, so this week we have the Jacksonville Jaguars, boys.
[02:10:52] Speaker A: We do. We do.
[02:10:54] Speaker B: Kenny, you got any, any Cliff notes for us here?
[02:10:57] Speaker A: Cliffs notes here, look. So this is Doug Peterson.
[02:10:59] Speaker B: Kenny's Cliff notes. I like that.
[02:11:01] Speaker A: Kenny's. Cliff's notes. Doug Peterson, entering his third year in Jacksonville. Obviously, this is the Doug Peterson that a was Brown's quarterback back in 2000. Went one and eight or something with us through two touchdowns and eight picks.
[02:11:12] Speaker B: Stinker.
[02:11:13] Speaker A: Stinker. But the guy did win as you Super bowl in Philly with Nick Foles.
Like you interrupt me right now is sticker.
[02:11:28] Speaker B: Why is this the new thing?
[02:11:30] Speaker A: I don't know. He started doing it today. Now I like it.
[02:11:34] Speaker C: I was wondering where that came from.
[02:11:37] Speaker A: The sticker. Okay, that's bad thing.
This is the same guy. A Super bowl in Philly with nick voles and Carter and wins. So let's just say the guy can coach. Trevor Lawrence obviously just got paid big time in the offseason, so they're expecting big things out of him. He does have the best BMI of all the starting quarterbacks in the NFL.
[02:12:00] Speaker B: He was like 170 pounds.
[02:12:01] Speaker A: He weighs to 220, but that puts him at just slightly overweight.
[02:12:06] Speaker B: What's your BMI?
[02:12:07] Speaker A: Which isn't good news for the other quarterbacks in the NFL.
[02:12:10] Speaker B: What's your BMI?
[02:12:10] Speaker A: I don't think. Stinker.
[02:12:15] Speaker B: You'd be the worst of the NFL.
[02:12:17] Speaker A: That being said, trevor, there's got to be defensive tackles.
[02:12:23] Speaker B: Yeah, but are they five seven?
[02:12:25] Speaker A: I am not five anyway.
[02:12:28] Speaker B: You are two. Five seven anyways.
[02:12:30] Speaker A: Excellent.
[02:12:30] Speaker B: Okay. Five eight. My bad.
[02:12:31] Speaker A: Excellent BMI. That is not what my driver's license says. Excellent BMI.
[02:12:35] Speaker B: You lie.
[02:12:37] Speaker A: But look, this guy's got sticker. This guy's got a great.
[02:12:42] Speaker B: Why is this a thing?
[02:12:43] Speaker A: Great group of skill position players around him. Obviously, running back Travis Etienne. Our old friend De Earnet Johnson is down there.
[02:12:51] Speaker B: He's always earning.
[02:12:52] Speaker A: Also, some guy named Tank in the backfield down there. I mean, that guy's got to be good.
[02:12:56] Speaker B: He's got to be good.
[02:12:56] Speaker A: He can't be named Tank and be bad at running the ball.
[02:12:59] Speaker B: If you are named Tank and you're not good at running the ball, what are you even doing with your life?
[02:13:03] Speaker A: I said, like, the only other reason.
[02:13:06] Speaker B: To be named Tank is if you're you.
[02:13:09] Speaker A: I would believe that tank probably will be taking Travis Etienne's job at any time now. Cause his name is Tank. Tight end Evan Ingram and a stable of really good receivers. Christian Kirk. Although he had a slow start to the year, he only had one catch in week one on four targets. But they have a first round pick that's like six. 4210 or so. Brian Thomas. Junior free agent pickup Gabe Davis and ex Baldwin Raven, Devin Duvernay. So guys that were familiar with their most of the question marks are on defense. I've got a lot of young guys playing backer and in their backfield. But that being said, their front four features three former first round draft picks in Trayvon Walker, Josh Hines Allen and former 49 Er Eriche Armstead.
Now, we played Jacksonville last year. Week 14 walked away with a narrow victory, 31 27. Both teams come into this game. Zero and one. So desperate for that wind to get things on the right track.
[02:14:11] Speaker B: Yeah. And so, I mean, I can get into some of these matchups that matter, which I like that you renamed this to matchups that matter. Let's catch.
[02:14:18] Speaker A: I'm pretty good at creative stuff occasionally. Yeah.
[02:14:22] Speaker B: Every once in a while, you know.
[02:14:22] Speaker A: I'm part founder of this country.
[02:14:26] Speaker B: Since when?
[02:14:27] Speaker C: Big time.
[02:14:32] Speaker B: Most devastating move.
The most devastating move in all of wrestling has been done to me.
I didn't think it was that good of a joke. I mean, it's good, but I didn't think it was a joke. You're just an idiot.
[02:14:54] Speaker A: Wow.
[02:14:55] Speaker B: Anyways, matchups that matter.
[02:14:57] Speaker A: I'm co founder of the company.
[02:14:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
Matchups that matter. Number one here, Deshaun Watson versus the Jags. D line.
Watson is ass.
He struggled last week versus Micah in company, like you just, just said. Eric Armstead came over from the 49 ers, joined two other first round picks. What's Watson going to do? Is he going to look like last week?
Probably. Is he going to look better? I don't know.
[02:15:24] Speaker A: No, I won't look better.
[02:15:25] Speaker B: So, yeah, so that's number one. And then number two here, brown secondary versus Jaguars. Receivers. And by receivers, I mean anybody that can catch the ball here.
So you mentioned Evan Ingram and Travis ETN, and that's even before we get to there receivers, which are Christian Kirk, Gabe Davis and Devin Duvernay. So a solid group of skill players over there. And the Browns are now down one, Thornhill. So, yeah, I mean, they're going to have to. The secondary is going to have to earn it against these receivers.
[02:15:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Let's not forget. I mean, this team went toe to toe with Miami last week. They were winning. They're winning the whole game at halftime and took that lead into the. Deeper into the game. So.
[02:16:04] Speaker B: Yard field goal from Tyree. Kill. Their offense is 80 yard, 80 yard touchdown.
Yeah. Gone. Yeah.
[02:16:15] Speaker A: No, I was gonna say they went toe to toe with a team that we know can score points. So, you know, this team did have a late collapse and that's how Miami won.
Similar to the way they lost a lot of games at the end of last season. They started eight and three and finished nine and eight, missed the playoffs because they turned the ball over a lot in that second half of the season and give a play leads.
[02:16:35] Speaker B: Absolutely. And so, as a team, the Jaguars are owen one coming off a late game loss to the Dolphins, like you just said. So they'll try and write the ship and get their first win in the Browns. We're coming off an embarrassing loss to the Cowboys at home. More distractions piled on this week. Injuries galore. Not a good spot to be in, Kenny, with that, what's. What's the betting info here?
I know, I know. Jacksonville is favored by three points.
[02:17:01] Speaker A: Favored at three points. They're over under at 41 and a half, so sounds like they're expecting this to be probably a relatively close game, something that's fuel goal separates them here in the twenties, but, yeah, that's the betting info.
[02:17:18] Speaker B: All right. And then let's get into the injury report.
[02:17:20] Speaker A: Am I the betting info guy now? Am I the draft Kings expert?
[02:17:26] Speaker B: We need a sounder for injury report.
Okay. And yes, you are. You're the guy. You're the one that added this to the show notes randomly one day. So this is you? This is your betting guy?
[02:17:38] Speaker A: Well, I was just your betting guy. Look, I just think those are interesting metrics because they tell the story of the game more than anything else, and I cannot cause them.
[02:17:46] Speaker B: All right, let's just figure this show out. A show out on air. Bone, you want to be betting guy now?
[02:17:52] Speaker C: I don't bet.
[02:17:53] Speaker B: He doesn't bet.
[02:17:54] Speaker A: I can get you gamble by the end of the day. That keeps you two to one odds.
[02:17:58] Speaker B: That keeps all your feelings out of it, and you just go off the data. So Bones the betting guy, now.
[02:18:04] Speaker A: Bones, the betting guy, injury report.
[02:18:07] Speaker B: What do we got?
[02:18:08] Speaker A: So, obviously, we talked earlier about a handful of guys that were added to the IR, so they're definitely out. But this week in practice already, we've had a number of limited individuals, starting with Joel Batonio, Jack Conklin, Charlie Hewlett, Dalvin Tomlinson, who had won big sack, big sack and massive sack. Alex. Right.
Miles Harden, did not practice.
Jokey with the high ankle sprain, did not practice. Jed wills, not.
[02:18:39] Speaker B: Joker's already been ruled out, so there's that.
[02:18:42] Speaker A: Yeah. And then on the injury report, but listed as full participants were Nick Harris, Jerry Judy, J OK, and Denzel Ward. For the jacksonville Jaguars, cornerback Tyson Campbell did not practice, and cam Robinson, offensive lineman, was limited, and Daniel Thomas, safety, was limited at practice. So just the names to kind of keep an eye on as the week goes on. Obviously, this doesn't mean that they won't play, but it gives you kind of an idea of maybe who's closer to playing and maybe not.
[02:19:19] Speaker B: Gotcha. Thank you. That was insightful. I really appreciate it.
[02:19:22] Speaker A: Oh, I mean, fuck you, buddy.
[02:19:25] Speaker B: So, players to watch here. We're gonna start bone bone, who do you like in this one?
[02:19:29] Speaker C: All right. I think our only shot to win this game if Deshawn plays is if our defense balls out and maybe scores a touchdown. So I'm gonna go Denzel and I. I'm going to hopefully pick six. Pick six for denzel.
[02:19:46] Speaker B: Okay.
[02:19:46] Speaker C: He's shut down Christian Kirk. Maybe they'll put him on that new rookie, that big dude, brian would say, brian Thomas. He had a good fantasy week last week, so, I mean, rookie player, first start, and he had a pretty good week. So maybe. Maybe Denzel will be on him.
[02:20:01] Speaker B: I like it. I like it for me. I'm going to go Jordan Aikens.
He's going to get significant time with Najoku being on the shelf and probably get significant time over the next few weeks because I said Najoku will miss at least a few weeks. So he does have a history with Deshaun Watson, assuming Watson still starts, and I think he'll serve as a safety blanket for Watson all game long, in a game when I would assume Deshaun Watson is going to look to have as many easy completions as he possibly could in order to instill some sort of confidence in him, I'm not going.
[02:20:39] Speaker A: To try to assume anything done Deshaun Watson is going to do ever again.
[02:20:42] Speaker B: Okay. Well, either way, Jordan Aikens is my guy.
Kenny, who you got?
[02:20:47] Speaker A: That's a good choice. I was going to pick Jordan akins myself. Big guy, athletic, big frame.
I feel like he's been a bit of a disappointment so far in this Browns offense, but not because he's been bad, just because I don't think he's been featured very much. But that's not my player to watch. My player to watch this week is going to be Deonta Foreman. That running game was abysmal last week, and I don't understand why we signed this guy back to the roster if we weren't going to use him. I am hoping that the coaching staff looks at last week and goes, we couldn't get anything done on the ground and Deshaun's not going to win us this game. Our only hope is if someone comes riding in knight in shining armor that we didn't play last week and does something that no one's expecting to do, which, you know, the kind of running back that Foreman is, the size that he has, I think could be a good mismatch for just a lot of defenders. He's a. He's a big, strong power guy. He gets underrated hands, and I think he can be a difference maker if he gets the chance. So I'm hoping that he finds his way into a number of snaps this weekend.
[02:21:50] Speaker B: I hope so, too. And so let's go ahead and, guys, before we get into the AFC north, let's get gassed up.
All right, it's that time again. Is there anything, anything getting you guys gassed up right now? I'm gonna start with bone.
[02:22:11] Speaker C: Oh, goodness. Every time.
[02:22:12] Speaker B: Oh, I'm gonna start with Kenny.
[02:22:14] Speaker A: That's me.
[02:22:15] Speaker B: You swung me, so.
[02:22:18] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. Guessed up. What am I guessed about?
[02:22:20] Speaker B: You know, what about Deshaun Watson.
[02:22:23] Speaker A: God, I mean, don't get me started again.
If I had to read about another one of his erections one more time, I swear to God.
No. What's gassing me up is it's not funny, but it's funny what's gassing me up. And I don't know if you guys are starting to see this, maybe let me know if you are. But it feels like there's something happening in the payments world, and this is the world that I've lived in for most of the last ten years, professionally with credit cards.
Hi.
Thanks, Siri.
[02:23:00] Speaker B: It's 11:23 p.m. recording late tonight.
[02:23:04] Speaker A: There's something happening in the payment space with credit cards. And I don't know what it's going to mean overall, but what I've noticed is, especially ever since we went to the Ozarks early in the spring.
[02:23:18] Speaker D: 11:24 p.m.
[02:23:24] Speaker A: That was me throwing my apple Watch across the room. Cause I don't. It just keeps talking to me.
[02:23:28] Speaker B: You got them fat wrists.
[02:23:30] Speaker A: Thank you. My BMI is not good for wristwatches.
There's something going on in the payment space. I don't know if you guys have realized this, but more and more retail merchants are now charging pretty substantial fees to swipe a card, which in the past was primarily reserved for, like, governments, service related organizations, charities and things where, like, if you were donating $100 to the dog shelter, you would also pay 3% so that the dog shelter wasn't paying for your card transaction.
But what I've noticed more and more is now is just you go to the restaurant and they say you can pay with cash. Here's your cash price. Or you pay with a card and you're going to pay three, 3.5%. Sometimes it's a flat fee of $3. Sometimes it's $2. Sometimes it's $0.35, depending on the type of merchant.
It's interesting to me because we've talked for so long about how we're headed to this cashless society.
Most rewards programs that are out there, you're getting 2% back ish on a card.
But if all of a sudden I'm paying 3% every time I swipe my card and I'm getting 2% back, it's going to start to become not very viable for me to swipe my card anymore.
And this is going to hurt all of the card program. It's not just my card. I mean, I'm talking about industry averages. Your industry averages are going to be about one, two to 2%. Cashback rewards points cash out at equivalents way less than about 2%. About one and a quarter, 1%, no matter what your points tell you they're doing. That's the numbers.
But if all of a sudden I'm paying 3% to use my card, it just isn't going to make sense financially. I mean, I've always kind of enjoyed the fact that I pay ninety cents to the dollar, ninety eight cents to the dollar on every transaction I make.
But if all of a sudden I can save 3% by using cash, I'm going to start going to the bank to use cash.
[02:25:35] Speaker B: Yeah, I think you kind of answered your own question. So, like, the reason why it's happening is because I'm sure all these payment places, you know what I mean, who's taking the payment, they hear all the stuff about how it's going to a cashless society. They're probably upping their charges and in turn the restaurant and everybody else is like, we can't do that anymore.
[02:25:56] Speaker A: Well, and it has gotten expensive for merchants. Right? Like, I mean, I, like, I sold this stuff and I had teams that sold this stuff and it's true, you know, most of these retail operations now, whether they're a restaurant or a small retail store would tell you that your first cost is for like a restaurant would be food. Your second most expensive cost is labor. And your third cost, the most expensive cost is merchant transaction fees. So when you think about that overall with all the things you have to pay for to run a business, whether it's insurance and all this other stuff, like to have transaction fees being the top of that list, draining these merchants, especially in this economy right now, where regardless where you fall politically, inflation has been rampant. Things just cost more. Everything costs more in todays world than it has. And then you couple that with the fact that merchants paid $126 billion in credit card fees in 2022, which is a 20% increase from the year previous. But if you go back to the year 20 3013, that's more than double. So, like, in a very short amount of time, these card transactions, card adoption has increased exponentially. And because of that, now your fees have.
But all that to say, like, I'm somebody that uses a cash back card, I've always enjoyed getting my cash back, but the more and more I see these retailers go into cash fees is pisses me off, because I'm like, this isn't a good deal anymore. And I don't know what that means for the future of all these programs because it's going to have to be dealt with somewhere. And usually these interchange conversations happen at the congressional level with the industry leaders, people like AMX and Mastercard and Visa.
And maybe the future is cryptocurrency and blockchain technology. Maybe that's where we need to get to.
Bitcoin kind of has a high cost of entry right now, so it's not like super suitable for transactions to be like, I'm gonna go to dinner, and I'll pay you with 900,000,000th of a bitcoin for my dinner.
So. But maybe there's another cryptocurrency out there. Maybe the old doge, dogecoin the doggy coin, one of those to the moon.
You might be more suitable for individual transactions. But if we're truly serious about, like, a digital future and one that's cost effective, maybe therein lies the answer, more so than credit cards, but I don't know. I'll also say, like, there's something happening in the payment space and there's going to have to be an outcome, and I don't know what it is. So that also drives me crazy.
[02:28:29] Speaker B: That's why they don't pay you the big bucks.
[02:28:31] Speaker A: That's why I'm gassed up.
[02:28:32] Speaker B: Yeah, bone, actually, I'll go. I'm guessed up my gassed up this week because I just came back from vacation the first week of football season.
Is travel plans getting messed up? And what do I mean by that? I'll tell you. So here's my story. We went to California, and then we went to Colorado. That was our, that was our vacation. We get into Denver, number one, we land, everything's fine.
[02:28:59] Speaker A: Did you buy pot?
[02:29:00] Speaker B: No, we were on the tarmac, like, waiting for the plane to deboard. Deboard for.
[02:29:07] Speaker A: That's a funny word.
[02:29:09] Speaker B: It was literally like, it took, it took almost a full hour for the people to get off the plane, and I've talked about this before, like, get out of the aisle when you're. When it's not your turn. Like, quit. Quit. And that's exactly what's happening. We were at the back of the plane, which is fine. I don't. I don't actually don't mind riding in the back of the plane at all.
We have a system with our daughter. We. I get on first and put, like, all of our. Mine and my wife's and her love it and our daughter's luggage and everything where it needs to be, and then she brings the baby on last.
[02:29:40] Speaker A: Smart.
[02:29:40] Speaker B: But, like, just. I just don't understand how a plane that has maybe a couple, like, I don't know. What are those hold, like, a couple hundred. Like, a hundred people at most.
[02:29:50] Speaker A: People.
[02:29:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Whatever it holds. It was a fairly large plane, but still, how does it take that long, a full hour, for that many people to get off one plane?
[02:29:58] Speaker A: And there's only three seats in each row. Really?
[02:30:00] Speaker B: Yeah. And so that was really pissed me off. So that was number one. That's just number one.
[02:30:04] Speaker A: And never deboarding the plane.
[02:30:06] Speaker B: We go to our Airbnb, and we get there. And.
[02:30:11] Speaker A: Did you find a hidden camera?
[02:30:12] Speaker B: No. The first weird thing was, as we're getting, like, walking into, like, up the sidewalk of the Airbnb, a man comes out, like, leaving. Like, they clearly lived there because it was one of the ones. Like, it's separated, but it's, like, blocked off. Like, you can't get to each other, whatever. And he's leaving. It doesn't even, like, acknowledge us. So I was like, that was weird. Whatever. We go inside. We have the code to go inside. We go inside. It's like a basement room that you're staying in or whatever, like an apartment. And so we go down to the apartment, and first red flag after. Well, second red flag after the man not acknowledging us was the door. That is, the barrier was, like, open, like, to the upstairs of the house. And we're like, that was also weird. We get downstairs, there's just a pile of laundry on the floor, like, all of the sheets and blankets and everything from the bed.
The bed's completely stripped.
And there's just, like. It's not super messy. There's just linens around. And we're like, that's definitely not right. So we call the lady, and she's like, huh?
Well, you know, I don't. My cleaning lady came on Monday. I don't know why she would leave it like that. So she essentially calls my wife a liar. The first thing that she does, and then on top of that, she's like, well, my wife took a picture and sent her to her. She's like, well, I don't know what's happening. Well, we come to find out. She calls us back in about half hour and she says, listen, me and my husband are going through a divorce. I'm not living there anymore. He's actually living there. It's a lot cooler in the basement. So he decided to go sleep down there last night. He didn't tell me. I didn't have somebody come and do all this stuff. So we'll give you a refund for tonight. Mind you, it's like 730 at night. Like, it's my daughter's bedtime, right? At that point, a toddler's bedtime. She's like, freaking out. She's just so tired from flying all day. She's just ready to go to sleep. We can't put her to bed, so we have to go find a hotel that has a suite so that we could, you know, put her in. I mean, we didn't have to find a suite, but I don't want to necessarily be, like, chained to the fact that she's sleeping. So I can't do anything in the room, watch tv. So we had to find a hotel with the suite, go to that.
So, like, repack her up, pack all our shit up, put it back in the rental car, take it over to the hotel, find a hotel, get there, unpack everything and do the whole thing. And meanwhile, this lady finally calls us back, tells us, yeah, I'm going through a divorce with my husband and all this stuff.
He didn't tell me I didn't get a cleaner.
[02:32:29] Speaker A: That's frustrating.
[02:32:29] Speaker B: I'll give you this night's money back. Let's hold off on the rest of it, though. I'll get a cleaner in there in the morning. You guys come back tomorrow. My wife was like, no, we're not coming back to your place. And so it took all weekend long to battle with. Not really a battle, but we had to go back and forth with actual Airbnb and the host and get our money back for that. Oh, here's the kicker. Literally every time we went to and from anywhere in Denver, car accidents just down the road, which that's not nobody's fault, but, like, there's the pot accidents everywhere. So we were constantly delayed all weekend long. And then the final thing, the final night, we were staying there. All of a sudden, our suite that we had in our hotel the kitchen sink just sprung a leak. There was just a puddle under the sink, and it stinks over sticker. So I was gassed up. I was really mad. It actually was a really great trip, even despite all that stuff, and we made the best of it. But I was like, every time something happened, I was like, are you serious?
[02:33:25] Speaker A: I know you. I know how your anger gets pent up.
[02:33:28] Speaker B: You'd be surprised. I handled it very well, because by the end of the week, I was just kind of like.
[02:33:33] Speaker A: But I know that inside I was boiling was rage.
[02:33:36] Speaker B: I was boiling. But it was. It was like, at the end of the week, my hands were just thrown up. I was like, I don't know what the fuck.
[02:33:40] Speaker A: You're proud. Your head probably is going to just explode one day, because I think that's what you've done is just. You've. You used to just let it all out, and people were like, man, that guy's kind of a dick.
But now you just keep it all inside. You're like, I'm an adult now, but at some point, when you keep it all inside like that, like, you're gonna. It's just gonna just.
[02:34:01] Speaker B: I mean, you're not wrong. Everybody talks about how we need to be mental health conscious, but society tells me I'm not allowed to just let it out.
[02:34:07] Speaker A: Yeah, you can't.
You probably need to see a therapist.
[02:34:11] Speaker B: I should probably do something.
[02:34:12] Speaker A: Just, like, let it out slowly.
You've probably got a few years in there at this point.
[02:34:16] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know. Sorry. That was long winded bone. What do you got for gas debt? So you could tell I was gassed up? See?
[02:34:22] Speaker C: All right, well, I think. I think I have a more positive one here. It could have been a situation that turned negative, but. All right, so I work on, like, high voltage electricity, and we were assigned to this job site, an underground neighborhood. So all the wires are under the ground. You have pad mount transformers that bring the power to the houses. Kind of step it down from the high voltage.
[02:34:41] Speaker B: Is this today's story?
[02:34:42] Speaker C: This is today.
[02:34:43] Speaker B: Nice.
[02:34:44] Speaker C: So we're basically assigned to work on this sector box. It's a place where quite a few wires come together. And we're going to install fault indicators on this box.
[02:34:52] Speaker B: Really getting a lesson here.
[02:34:55] Speaker C: There's three huge pine trees growing over top of this area. You can't even see the transverse former or the sector box. And there's rose bushes growing over it. There's boxwoods planted all around it.
[02:35:04] Speaker A: Whose job is it to keep those clean? Is it the homeowner or is it the city?
[02:35:08] Speaker C: Usually people plant, like, just, like, mulch gardens around them just to kind of make them look better. Yeah, but you have stickers on them because we have to use hot sticks, and we have to be able to access this stuff if there's an outage and there's clear stickers on it. Like, do not dig around here. Do not plant stuff in front of this. You know, people have to have access to this kind of thing. But people change houses. You know, layers of mulch get layered over top, and, you know, just stuff gets overgrown. So we're like, we're gonna have to tell this homeowner. We're gonna be cutting these branches down. We're ripping out these boxwoods. Your rose bushes are in the way. We gotta rip them out, blah, blah, blah. So we tell this lady, and she's just like, you know, I talked to my husband. They're just like, yeah, go ahead and take out what you need to take out. No problem. So it was just like. We were just explaining, expecting a bad situation.
[02:35:52] Speaker A: You thought she was gonna be gassed up?
[02:35:54] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[02:35:54] Speaker C: And this lady was just super nice.
[02:35:56] Speaker B: And instead, you're gassed up. How excited you are for there to be no issues.
[02:36:00] Speaker C: She was great. You know, we cut back the branches, ripped out two rose bushes. Ripped out four boxwoods.
[02:36:05] Speaker A: And did you pick her some roses while you're.
[02:36:08] Speaker B: What a nice guy?
[02:36:09] Speaker C: We took the Boxwoods. There was, like, four nice boxwoods. They're like, yeah, we don't want them. So I think one of the guys I worked with just took them off.
[02:36:16] Speaker B: Nice.
[02:36:17] Speaker C: It was good.
[02:36:18] Speaker B: There's a.
[02:36:18] Speaker C: There's a really nice lady I'll give a shout out to.
[02:36:21] Speaker B: There's an electrical worker out there right now. Like, with the beginning of your story, though, when you're, like, going through, like, this. Connects to the bunch of wires come through the conduit, and he's like, yeah, I know. He's pretty hard right now.
[02:36:33] Speaker C: It was a three. A three. The three phase. Sector transformer. Yeah. No sector box.
[02:36:38] Speaker B: Okay.
[02:36:39] Speaker C: More of a junction, more of a juncture point that leads into the transformer.
[02:36:42] Speaker A: Is that what Deshawn uses?
[02:36:43] Speaker B: I gotcha.
[02:36:44] Speaker A: The sexual box.
[02:36:45] Speaker B: I'm actually an electrical, too, but he's actually doing it every day.
[02:36:48] Speaker A: He's like. He's like, real electrical.
[02:36:50] Speaker B: He's like the guy.
[02:36:50] Speaker A: Yeah. So you like.
[02:36:52] Speaker B: I just sell the stuff.
[02:36:53] Speaker A: You're like, the guy that knows the guy.
[02:36:55] Speaker B: It's true. I call myself the quarterback. I just say, you just tell me what you need. I'll figure out where how to go.
[02:37:00] Speaker A: You can actually do it. But I feel like I could do some things, but not like that.
[02:37:03] Speaker B: Guys, you know what? It's time for?
[02:37:05] Speaker A: No.
[02:37:05] Speaker B: King of the northeast.
All right, in case anyone doesn't know by now, this is our year long AFC north pick em competition. At the end of the season, whoever comes in last place gets punished. In the preseason last year, Kenny had a gross of eggs thrown at him at the Muni lot. That's 144 eggs, in case you didn't know. In the preseason this year, Kenny had his head and beard shaved clean off. That's a lot of hair donated.
[02:37:31] Speaker A: Thank you.
[02:37:33] Speaker B: Punishment this season will be.
Did we decide yet?
[02:37:37] Speaker A: We gotta decide.
[02:37:38] Speaker B: We really gotta decide.
[02:37:39] Speaker A: Cause as far as we have most of our stuff in order pretty well. Like, we're pretty. This isn't one of them podcast. This is not one that we.
[02:37:46] Speaker B: I promise we'll have something next week. I'm keeping these guys to that. We're gonna have something for you next week either way. Kenny, are you excited about doing whatever it is that is gonna be the punishment this year?
[02:37:58] Speaker A: Fuck you.
[02:37:59] Speaker B: Okay, but let's get into it. First things first. I wanna remind everyone that bone is the reigning, defending king of the North. Kenny, as always, is a clown.
[02:38:08] Speaker A: Thank you.
[02:38:09] Speaker B: Let's remind everyone of our current records. After week one, I am one and three, I am winning.
Bone and Kenny, you're both owing for.
Okay? So let's go ahead and get into this week's games. First of all, we've got Cincinnati. And they are at the Chiefs. Cincinnati is at the Chiefs is on me. Bone or Kenny?
[02:38:31] Speaker A: Kenny, who you got right at me. Call me Bone.
Remember when amber was like, we love Bone.
That's the first brownsbacker shout out Bone's ever got.
[02:38:42] Speaker B: That was fantastic. That was actually a really awesome part of that interview.
[02:38:46] Speaker A: Yeah, that was nice.
You said they're at the Chiefs. Correct?
[02:38:49] Speaker B: At the Chiefs.
[02:38:50] Speaker A: Yeah. Cincinnati is ass. And until they prove otherwise by Joe Burrow just being a stud again or some other surprise thing happens there, they will remain ass and they're in Kansas City. The Chiefs came out of the gate swinging, didn't play their best game and still won.
[02:39:09] Speaker B: Dick swinging.
[02:39:10] Speaker A: So I think they dick swing all over the bangles this week and they go to 20.
[02:39:15] Speaker B: I'm right with you. So much dick swinging. Kansas City takes us easy, Bone.
[02:39:19] Speaker C: Yeah, Kansas City.
[02:39:21] Speaker B: Why is everybody picking the same?
[02:39:22] Speaker A: Hey, I started.
[02:39:23] Speaker C: It's hard to pick again against Kansas City.
[02:39:26] Speaker B: I mean, you're not. Come on, you're not wrong. So next up here, we got the Raiders at the Ravens.
Me, I'm trying to decide. Bone, what do you got?
[02:39:40] Speaker C: Okay, I'm going with the Ravens. The Baltimore Ravens are going to beat the Las Vegas Raiders.
[02:39:47] Speaker B: I also got the Baltimore Ravens Raiders ass. Kenny, who you got?
[02:39:54] Speaker A: My computer is like possessed right now. It's just doing things. Anyways, the Raiders lost a close game last week, semi close game against the up and coming Chargers.
But Baltimore also lost and I have a hard time believing that Baltimore is outside of my hope for the Browns to win the division. Baltimore is probably the best team team in the division.
There's no way they start. Owen, two alcohol Ravens.
[02:40:21] Speaker B: All right, so everybody's got Baltimore, everybody's got KC. This is shaped up to be another really bad week for everyone.
Next up we got Steelers traveling to Denver. I'll go ahead and start. I like the Broncos in this.
I'm just the Steelers. Even though their defense is good, the offense did absolutely nothing. They're playing out west. Who knows if it Russell Wilson will be playing his former team or not. I would probably argue not at this point, but yeah, I just, I'm still holding on to the Steelers being a mess. I'm going to go with the Broncos at home. Kenny, who you got?
[02:40:58] Speaker A: Interesting. You say that Broncos lost a close game to Seattle last week. Bo Nicks debut through 438 yards and two picks. He was also their leading rusher with 35 yards. That offense is just not going to get it done. I would go Steelers.
[02:41:16] Speaker B: Weird part is, I agree with like everything you said, but I just, for some reason I feel like the Broncos are going to win. But, but bone, who you got?
[02:41:24] Speaker C: I'm going Steelers too. I can't two weeks in a row going against old Mike Tomlin.
[02:41:29] Speaker B: So at the end of this week, we're all going to have the same record again.
And then finally the Browns obviously travel to Jacksonville to play the Jaguars.
I'll go first for this one. You know I mentioned it earlier, right? I said for the Browns coming off an embarrassing loss, got more distractions piled on this week. Injuries galore. Not a real good spot for us to be. And so obviously I'm picking the Browns 20 to 19 in a close one. And a game winning field goal from d hop on the road. Obviously it's a game they're not supposed to win, so of course they're going to win it.
[02:42:07] Speaker A: Fair enough.
[02:42:10] Speaker B: Bone, who you got?
[02:42:13] Speaker C: I'm hoping for a big show in from the defense, but I still think they're going to stick with Deshawn and he's going to play the whole game and I don't trust him.
So I'm going to pick.
I kind of thought Jacksonville is going to have a game winner. Game winning field goal.
[02:42:27] Speaker B: What's the score?
[02:42:28] Speaker A: They do have a rookie kicker.
[02:42:30] Speaker C: Let's do 1720 Jacksonville.
[02:42:38] Speaker B: All right. And kenny, who you got?
[02:42:43] Speaker A: The Jaguars have two guys, the last name little and one is little and one is big.
[02:42:50] Speaker B: Stute observation there.
[02:42:52] Speaker A: They do a ton of playmakers there. We're a little banged up in a secondary and Bone is dead nuts accurate. Trust this team with Deshaun Watson at the helm until they prove me otherwise. I consistently, I am down on this team being able to win games, even games they should win because I just don't trust Deshawn at all at this point. I have. I have lost all faith in his ability to competently navigate quarterback waters across this league.
So I go Jaguars in this one and I don't think it's a particularly close, I think it's maybe a 31 21 type game.
[02:43:31] Speaker B: Whoa. We got humped again almost by the same score. And so that is our picks that are, those are our picks for king of the north. And with that, let me remind you to call the burger sports guest hot take. Hot take.
Don't forget to call and leave your hot takes on the hot take outlet. Remember, these are hot takes. We want hot takes. We want hot takes.
[02:43:52] Speaker A: A.
[02:43:58] Speaker B: Operators are not standing by and be sure to check out our gear www. The tappinmedia.com backslash shop. And that'll do it for us. What can we expect next week, Kenny?
[02:44:09] Speaker A: Nope. My notes. My whole computer is just like, does he ever seen the poltergeist?
Yeah, I'm getting it back, though. Here we go. Here we go. It's coming.
It's coming. I'm coming.
[02:44:25] Speaker B: This is really exciting news. You're really killing it. What can we expect next week, Kenny?
[02:44:30] Speaker A: Next week? Oh, shit. This is a big announcement. We will now that Ronnie is back in town, right out running gems, we will be introducing a whole new way to view the burning river sportscast. And that is live. We are live action brs coming straight.
[02:44:52] Speaker B: For you down the. What is it?
[02:44:56] Speaker A: We are a freight train from hell. So we will be live on Sunday night. That's right. Bringing you firsthand accounts of the Browns game this weekend so that we can recap that before.
[02:45:10] Speaker B: There's gonna be fresh hot tapes before.
[02:45:12] Speaker A: You go to work on Monday.
So that's right. That's our first live show for BRS. We're recapping the week two Browns game against the Jaguars. And then, as always, on Thursday, we'll be back to have our normal show, which includes a preview of the week three game against Danny Dimes. The Giants.
[02:45:29] Speaker B: Oh, boy.
[02:45:30] Speaker A: Who originally read how Ronnie jams Predator was going to blow us out?
[02:45:34] Speaker B: That was when I thought they were.
[02:45:35] Speaker A: Until they realized that Aaron Rodgers didn't play for the Giants.
[02:45:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[02:45:38] Speaker A: Uh, so, uh, we're also working, uh, to schedule, uh, another brownsbackers interview, which we usually get done, but for whatever reason, we've had a hard time this week.
[02:45:49] Speaker B: Yeah.
[02:45:49] Speaker A: Um, so hopefully we'll have that next week as well.
[02:45:52] Speaker B: We will. Uh, and check us out on social media tab and media is on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram, at thetappet Media, I'm burning over sportscast is on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube. At burning over Sportscast and on xerningoverpod. Find our podcast wherever you get your podcast, talking, Apple, podcast, Spotify, YouTube, music, Amazon music, Stitcher, Pandora, heart, radio, pocket. Guys. Castro. Good pod. So many more. You know, it takes two cats, Kenny.
[02:46:10] Speaker A: Facts for days.
That was a rough one, boys.
[02:46:24] Speaker B: Kenny, what do you got?
[02:46:25] Speaker A: All right, I'm actually excited about these facts for days. I got a couple of good ones here for us.
[02:46:30] Speaker B: You've been turned down all show about Deshaun Watson. Now you're gonna bring us back up.
[02:46:33] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. All right. According to statistics, okay, the most common date of birth is the 9 September.
[02:46:43] Speaker C: Dude, no way.
[02:46:44] Speaker A: Do we know anybody that was born on the 9 September? Bone man.
Yeah, that's the most common birthday.
[02:46:52] Speaker C: I think it's the new year's baby ever.
[02:46:55] Speaker A: Interestingly enough, babies born around this time stand the best chance of being the smartest in their class and going to have the greatest success in life. Hell yes, it's possible. Theory could be linked to starting school in September and making these children the oldest, most mature pupils in their class at the time when learning and development is so critical.
Side note, scientific evidence also points to the month of birth affecting your personality in large way. For example, those born in the summer months have the most optimistic outlooks, which explains why I'm such a cheery, optimistic person all the time.
[02:47:33] Speaker B: Yeah, something like that.
Bone, did you know that I was supposed to be born on September 9 as well?
[02:47:39] Speaker C: Really?
[02:47:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
[02:47:40] Speaker C: What the hell happened?
[02:47:41] Speaker B: I don't know. And if I was born on September 9, I would have been nine on 9999.
[02:47:46] Speaker A: And red hot Ronnie James birthday was yesterday. Which I have not wished him a happy birthday yet because I don't respect him.
[02:47:51] Speaker B: Well, that's. That's fair. Yeah. Yeah. So fun fact for burning river sportscast, another extra fact there is the bone man and I have back to back birthdays.
[02:47:59] Speaker A: Back to back, just like John Hughes and Bone.
[02:48:02] Speaker B: It's been the.
[02:48:03] Speaker C: That way.
[02:48:03] Speaker B: Yeah, true.
[02:48:04] Speaker C: Practically our whole life.
[02:48:05] Speaker B: Yeah. It's funny. Ever since me and ever since me and Bone could text each other, though, it's always funny because I text him and I say, hey, happy birthday. And then literally, like, a couple hours later, he's like, hey, happy birthday. So it's been a good time. Number two. Number two.
[02:48:21] Speaker A: Let's talk about Kamala.
[02:48:24] Speaker B: Ah. Okay.
[02:48:25] Speaker A: We're gonna go there, boys.
The whole bone really went there. I was gonna talk about Kamala, Chile.
Home to the Atacama desert.
[02:48:39] Speaker C: Sorry, I had to do it.
[02:48:41] Speaker A: Bone just went zero, 200, so hard. Oh, man, that was great.
Home to the Atacama desert. It's not just any ordinary arid region. This desert spans.
[02:48:56] Speaker B: All I get is just smirking over there, and I was like, yeah.
[02:49:00] Speaker A: This desert spans over 600 miles along the Pacific coast of South America and is one of the most.
[02:49:07] Speaker B: You know, South Africa and South America aren't even close.
[02:49:09] Speaker A: I know. South America, okay, is one of the most extreme landscapes on the entire planet, no thanks to certain oceanic conditions. There are areas that have received zero rainfall throughout all of recorded history.
It does not rain here.
Not even a little.
[02:49:33] Speaker C: That's wild.
[02:49:34] Speaker B: Zero as in none.
[02:49:36] Speaker A: Zero as in. There are parts of this desert that have not touched water for hundreds of years, potentially thousands of years.
[02:49:45] Speaker B: What?
[02:49:46] Speaker A: The driest place on the planet Earth.
There was now. There was in 2015.
A sprinkling in an area is a big desert. There was a sprinkling in a small area in Kamala, and you might expect that this rain would have caused a sudden blooming of life in the region.
[02:50:14] Speaker B: I don't. Things have been dead for that long.
Ain't nothing bringing that back.
[02:50:19] Speaker A: This sprinkling of rain actually killed it further, had the opposite effect, wiping out most of the microbes that lived there in what has been called a massive extinction event.
[02:50:35] Speaker C: Wow.
[02:50:37] Speaker A: Just a little bit of rain. Cause it hasn't rained there thousands of years, killed basically everything that was there in the driest place on Earth. So next time you think of Kamala, just know she was named after the driest place.
[02:50:50] Speaker B: I didn't know you were going there.
I was, bro. You guys were talking about terraforming Mars. What if this happens?
[02:50:59] Speaker A: Interesting fact, most of the Mars research that is done is that most of the Mars research that is done on.
[02:51:06] Speaker B: Planet Earth is done in common, done.
[02:51:08] Speaker A: In Kamala, because conditions mimic the martian landscape so closely.
[02:51:13] Speaker B: Why are we so damn smart that we just can connect? All this shit just keeps on going.
[02:51:17] Speaker A: That's, that's what we do. Yeah, that's.
[02:51:19] Speaker B: All right. What's number three, bitch?
[02:51:21] Speaker A: Number three. This is my favorite one of the night.
[02:51:24] Speaker B: Okay.
More favorite than dry Kamala.
[02:51:34] Speaker A: Oh, we're bad.
Number three. Humans in general, we want to do good.
We tend to overreact. Speak for yourself, you know, sticker.
We want to do good, you know, by other humans, by nature. But we do tend to overreact sometimes. Right? Like, Andrew Santino has a great bit about, like, the banning of straws because it's killing the turtles. He's like, where are these turtles? He's like, the ocean is so big. A turtle is so small, a straw is just floating, and it's so small. You're telling me that, like, these conditions match up perfectly to a straw being able to fit into a five millimeter hole, and it's killing all the turtles to plan it that way? Like, he's like, that's basically the equivalent of me flicking a q tip in the air and catching it in the tip of my penis.
That's the probability of, like, this happening, right? So, like, all that to say.
[02:52:30] Speaker B: What are we even talking about anymore?
[02:52:32] Speaker A: What we're talking about, actually, is paper versus plastic, because for a long time, we've been under this assumption that we're plastic. You know, just bad for the environment. Right? It's filling up landfills, takes thousand years to decompose.
So many of us believe that paper bags are environmentally more friendly than plastic bags because they come from a renewable resource and come biodegradable, recyclable. However, what I bring to you today, friends, is scientific research that shows just the opposite.
Plastic bags outperform paper. Paper bags environmentally, exponentially on manufacturing, reuse, solid waste, volume and generation. Paper products take a much more substantial amount of energy to make.
Making paper and cardboard is the third largest industry use of energy on the entire planet. In comparison to cardboard, plastic is lighter, more durable, and takes much less energy to manufacture.
Research indicates also that a paper bag has more adverse impact than a plastic bag for most environmental issues considered. Areas where paper bags score particularly badly include water consumption, atmospheric acidification, sensitive ecosystems, forest decline, acidification of lakes, and eutrophication of water bodies, which essentially means that they would grow algae and deplete the oxygen in the lake.
So paper bags are anywhere from six to ten times heavier than lightweight plastic carrier bags, and as such, require more to transport and its associated costs. And they would also take up more room in a landfill if they were not recycled.
And when you consider the entire lifecycle of packaging, paper and cardboard represent for greater environmental impact in their I plastic equivalents.
Plastic bags generate 39% less greenhouse gas emissions than uncomposted paper bags, 68% less greenhouse gas emissions than composted paper bags. People think, I'll just throw this in a yard. That's better. Better for the environment. Wrong greenhouse gases, assholes.
Plastic bags consume less than 6% of the water needed to make paper bags. It takes 1004 gallons of water to produce 1000 paper bags, but only 58 gallons of water to produce 1500 plastic bags. Plastic grocery bags consume 71% less energy overall during production than paper bags.
Reuse using paper bags generates four to five times more solid waste than plastic bags. So after four or more uses, reusable plastic bags are superior to all types of disposable bags, including paper, polyethylene, and compostable plastic across all environmental indicators. Bottom line, plastic bags are better for the environment than paper.
[02:55:42] Speaker B: Wow.
[02:55:43] Speaker A: But in many cities in the US, we've just banned plastic fit back out right before we considered any of the other environmental impacts.
[02:55:54] Speaker B: That's wild.
[02:55:54] Speaker C: Yeah, that got deep.
[02:55:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I was just kind of listening, and you were rambling, but it was good. And that's serious stuff, bruh.
[02:56:02] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. It's just like catching a q tip at the tip of your penis.
[02:56:08] Speaker B: I guess so. I guess it is. Bone, you got anything you need to say about this?
[02:56:13] Speaker C: Oh, man, I'm hungry. Bon appetit.
[02:56:18] Speaker A: Don't just be a part of the problem.
[02:56:19] Speaker B: We're talking about the tip of your penis.
[02:56:21] Speaker A: If you're hungry, be the whole damn problem.
[02:56:24] Speaker B: And only you can prevent river fires burning river sports cast burning rivers burning.
[02:56:35] Speaker A: Rivers burning rivers burning rivers so hot, so hot burning rivers and even though.
[02:56:45] Speaker B: We ain't got money even though we.
[02:56:49] Speaker A: Ain'T got money.
[02:56:57] Speaker B: In the morning when I you bring it, dear Enjoy to my eyes you bring.
[02:57:07] Speaker A: All right everything's gonna be all right burning rivers good night, Cleveland.
[02:57:18] Speaker B: I didn't know we were doing rounds.
Quiet on set.
[02:57:22] Speaker A: I now have two loves in my.
[02:57:25] Speaker B: Life, big city living and a voodoo woman named Phyllis. So put your right foot in and take your right foot out. Then put your right foot in and shut the hell up because it's not time for the hokey pokey it's time for the burning river sports. Cat.
[02:57:41] Speaker D: Motorboat.
[02:57:41] Speaker B: You play the motorboat?
You motorboat son of a bitch. You old sailor, you.
[02:57:47] Speaker A: You know, I was thinking during that interview.
[02:57:49] Speaker B: What? What were you think? Nothing. You don't have thoughts. Cause you're a brainless idiot.
[02:57:53] Speaker A: Wow.
[02:57:54] Speaker B: My name is Uhtred, son of Uhtred. By the way, I want my foreskin back. It doesn't matter what you think.
[02:58:01] Speaker A: Women's guide to. To anal sex. And it was the second edition. Who makes the second edition?
[02:58:07] Speaker C: The weather. Outside is weather.
[02:58:09] Speaker B: The other one, the finger. The finger eating food fingers.
[02:58:12] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[02:58:13] Speaker B: My ass is full of shit. He shedded everywhere.
[02:58:17] Speaker C: Yes.
[02:58:18] Speaker A: Ejaculate all over my body and my genitals.
[02:58:20] Speaker C: Yes.
[02:58:21] Speaker B: Oh, no. We suck again.
[02:58:23] Speaker C: You don't need fundamentals when you got heart.
[02:58:27] Speaker A: And Jesus.
[02:58:28] Speaker B: And Jesus. Touchdown number one.
[02:58:30] Speaker A: What do you mean, funny?
[02:58:31] Speaker D: Funny?
[02:58:32] Speaker B: How am I funny? It's going down. I'm yelling timber.
[02:58:36] Speaker A: Goddamn jets.
[02:58:38] Speaker B: Are we gonna.
[02:58:39] Speaker A: You're only in this.
[02:58:40] Speaker B: Did we start a meat podcast like the meat pod?
Slow roasted.
[02:58:48] Speaker A: The leads are weak.
[02:58:50] Speaker B: The leads are weak?
[02:58:52] Speaker A: Fucking leads are weak. You're weak. That we should send a team of oil core drillers a la Armageddon to Mars to have them access the newly discovered reservoirs of water traps seven to 12 miles on the surface that, when released, will cover the entirety of everything on the planet less than a mile high.
[02:59:03] Speaker B: All I do is win, win, win no matter what. Erroneous. Erroneous on both counts. Oh, lord. I mean, when I. Last year when I went home, you know, my wife's pants hit the ground. Wow. But damn.
[02:59:15] Speaker A: I'm sorry, I hijacked your segment for a second to do some good podcasting.
You know why, mister? Cause you drove a Hyundai to get.
[02:59:23] Speaker B: Here tonight, I drove an $80,000 BMW.
[02:59:27] Speaker A: That's my name.
[02:59:28] Speaker B: I think we've officially lost all of our more conservative viewers.
I don't think they want to listen any longer.
[02:59:36] Speaker C: It's Mother Nature.
[02:59:37] Speaker B: I live my life a quarter of a mile at a time.
[02:59:39] Speaker A: Where's logo girl when you need her?
[02:59:41] Speaker B: I desperately want to make love to this cheese girl.
[02:59:43] Speaker A: We need cheese girl now.
[02:59:44] Speaker B: Down, Joe Sanderson. Down, Joe Sanderson.
[02:59:48] Speaker A: Who's canceled now? Who's canceled now?
[02:59:51] Speaker B: Probably me.
[02:59:52] Speaker A: You making it full of fat people.
[02:59:55] Speaker B: I'm not just you.
[02:59:57] Speaker A: We're a whole race, basically.
[03:00:00] Speaker B: No way. She's just straight. Just finger banging her salad like, save your sister.
[03:00:05] Speaker C: You first get shocked, and then you get the shocker.
[03:00:11] Speaker A: Hey, you like to see almost naked.
[03:00:12] Speaker D: That's cool, man.
[03:00:13] Speaker B: Whatever. No, no, no. Most people like, they're driving along and they're like, in between meals. I'm a little hungry. I'm gonna have a granola bar and it's like, I need a cheeseburger.
[03:00:22] Speaker A: Are you not entertained?
[03:00:24] Speaker B: Are you not entertained?
[03:00:28] Speaker A: Is this not why you're here?
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