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It's time. Time for the Burning River Sportscast Mile High. 8 Mile. Miles of pass yards, Miles of receiving yards. Miles. Garrett, 1300 miles from home. All those miles and still no win. As the Browns embattled season boils on, at least we have one entertaining, redeeming quality that is Famous Jamis, who has proven to be the most electrifying man in all of sports entertainment. The sad part is we have to watch them play meaningless football each week because this front office lacked the fortitude and desire to actually put their best players on the field all season. Don't worry, Jimmy and D. We're used to it. This is what we do. Mike Tomlin has been a head coach in Pittsburgh for 18 years and never had a season below.500. And for the 15th time during Mike Tomlin tenure, your Browns have secured a losing record. Time and futility. March on in Cleveland, and we'll break it all down for you. Next on the Burning River Sportscast.
[00:02:07] Speaker B: Twist it. Twist his dick.
[00:02:09] Speaker C: They don't like me because I went to Michigan.
[00:02:12] Speaker A: Spam has a clean record. You'll find no scandals in the history of Spam, just good, wholesome fun. You had four hours to go fight for your. Your turf and you. And you gave it up.
[00:02:24] Speaker D: You.
[00:02:24] Speaker A: They deserved the opportunity to put their flag in your ass.
[00:02:28] Speaker B: Yeah, they're grabbing each other's nuts, pulling, like, putting their fingers in each other's eyes and noses and mouths.
[00:02:34] Speaker A: Because when we go back to Bitch Ann Arbor and we beat and we beat Michigan's ass, I want that big block O planted in the middle of the stadium.
[00:02:43] Speaker B: Absolutely. Absolutely. And I want them all to fight.
[00:02:46] Speaker A: Over, and I want them to fight about it. Yeah, the grown men punch each other.
[00:02:50] Speaker B: These people.
[00:02:51] Speaker A: And they live. Yes, all these are usually fine.
[00:02:54] Speaker B: 99% of the time we have sports.
[00:02:56] Speaker A: In this country where the entire goal is to punch each other as hard as you can deal. The other guy falls asleep. Like, if one guy catches a haymaker in a helmet, it's not going to be the end of the world.
[00:03:04] Speaker B: The hand's probably going to take Take more damage than the helmet, you might.
[00:03:08] Speaker A: As well just get MAGA printed on your hat.
What I don't like about the thumbprint is that someone's thumb was in my cookie.
[00:03:17] Speaker B: Pure peanut butter and chocolate. Desserts are below us. We love lemon.
[00:03:22] Speaker E: We keep swear jars out on the tables for every game, which is a really great way to raise some money. And at the end of the season.
[00:03:30] Speaker B: All of that easy money.
[00:03:31] Speaker E: Easy money. And all that easy money is going to go to the Strongsville Food Bank.
[00:03:37] Speaker A: Is there a Miss Elizabeth to go along with the macho fan, or is there plans to have. What? You talking about my wife in the future?
[00:03:47] Speaker D: The answer the question. No, but there are.
Don't talk about my wife.
[00:04:00] Speaker C: Yeah, I was being a little dramatic there.
[00:04:03] Speaker A: I was trying to get Terry to give me the invoices so I can make some freaking purchase orders.
Six to 12, as they used to call me in college.
[00:04:13] Speaker B: No, they didn't. Nobody's ever called you that.
[00:04:15] Speaker A: Are you dreaming of a white Christmas?
Well, stop it. Because snow is not white.
[00:04:22] Speaker B: What the hell color is it then?
This color don't fire.
[00:04:33] Speaker D: We gotta go into Pittsburgh. We're gonna take their terrible towels, we'll toss it back to them. Just like we're gonna tell the refs, quit throwing those flags at us. Because trust me, there ain't gonna be no penalties. There ain't gonna be no dirtiness.
[00:04:47] Speaker A: Somebody was getting fingered in the butt.
[00:04:49] Speaker B: Yeah. Twist his dick.
The old dick. Twist, old dick.
[00:04:53] Speaker A: Twist.
Welcome into the Burning River Sportscast. Presented by the fine folks at Tappin Media. I'm Kenny Thund by Criss Angels makeup artist and personal confidant, Red Hot Ronny Jams. Red Hot. Let's go back in time for a second.
[00:05:12] Speaker B: Take me there.
[00:05:12] Speaker A: Put your hand out here like this. Oh, no, don't touch me. You're holding something.
[00:05:17] Speaker B: Oh, I'm holding something.
[00:05:18] Speaker A: You're holding a blonde, a brunette and a redhead.
[00:05:22] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:05:23] Speaker A: Okay. Take the blonde. Take her. Just pick her up with your other hand. Put her next to your face.
I feel like the first time you ever made love.
[00:05:32] Speaker B: No, no.
[00:05:33] Speaker A: Put her back.
Take the brunette. She's a sassy brunette. Pick her up.
[00:05:37] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:05:38] Speaker A: Put her next to your face. Does that feel like the first time you made love?
[00:05:42] Speaker B: No.
[00:05:42] Speaker D: No.
[00:05:44] Speaker A: Let's grab the redhead, pick her up. Sassy redhead. She's sexy, she's good. Feel like the first time you made love?
[00:05:50] Speaker B: Nope.
[00:05:51] Speaker A: No. All right. Put her back. Take them all in your hand and just shake them up. Just mix them up.
[00:05:56] Speaker B: Why don't you do that?
[00:05:58] Speaker A: Does that feel like the first time?
[00:06:00] Speaker B: I get it. I get it. I saw it coming before you. But it's still good on the board today.
[00:06:04] Speaker A: The big bone man, I tried to turn the tables.
[00:06:07] Speaker B: Turntables have not turned bone.
[00:06:09] Speaker A: Did you hear about the guy that evaporated?
[00:06:11] Speaker C: No, I did not.
[00:06:14] Speaker A: It's terrible. He'll be missed.
Back to red Hot. Where can our listeners find the dopest dope they ever heard On a podcast, the number one ranked football podcast and all good pods as well as the unofficial podcast of Cleveland Brownsbackers everywhere and.
[00:06:25] Speaker B: The official podcast of some Cleveland Brownsbackers somewhere. Somewhere you can find our podcast wherever you podcast, Talking Apple podcast, Spotify, stitcher, Amazon Music, YouTube Music, Pandora, iHeartRadio podcast cast or a good podcast where we are number one ranked football podcast and so many more. And don't forget to subscribe on YouTube. The only place that you can find our video podcast. And check us out on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok. Our handle for all those socials is at Burning River Sportscast. We are an X as well at the handle at Burning River Pod. And while you're at it, check out our merch ww thetabmedia.com access shop. All kinds of stuff in there. River gear, Chubb Gear, Brook Park Browns gear. But on today's show, this is what you can look forward to. We got Dog of the Week Division roundup around the NFL Hot 3 interview with the Brownsbackers group. This week it was going to be the North Royalton Brownsbackers. We've actually had to make a change here and it is now the Strongsville Browns Backers Change King of the north gassed up our dog talk interview series week 14 preview. We're going to have the return of our defensive correspondent that's been moved to.
[00:07:22] Speaker A: Next week, John Hughes.
[00:07:24] Speaker B: John Hughes will be next week. But yeah, Jim Pack show. There's gonna be so much more, I'm sure. But stop, drop and roll because this show is on fire.
Wow, that's a good thing. Started with the the burning of a News Story of the Week.
All right, guys, Mike Malarkey, former head coach of the Tennessee Titans, appeared on a podcast this week and just, just take a quick listen to what he had to say after the 2017 season.
In the 2018 playoffs, I reported a couple different times the Titans were expected to fire Mike Muller. And then I got a tip from a very trusted and reliable source that he was actually getting a contract extension after a playoff run. I reported it he was fired the next day. It has been one of the biggest mysteries of my entire career and now it has been solved.
[00:08:33] Speaker D: Go.
[00:08:34] Speaker A: I knew they were gonna fire me.
[00:08:36] Speaker B: So Sunday night I called Ian Rapoport and I said, hey, I don't know.
[00:08:39] Speaker A: If you know this, but I'm gonna break it to you, but I'm getting.
[00:08:43] Speaker B: A new contract in the morning.
[00:08:45] Speaker A: And he reported it. It was all over the country.
[00:08:50] Speaker B: I was getting a contract in the.
[00:08:51] Speaker A: Morning knowing that I was gonna get fired. But I just wanted to see the faces on the owner and the GM.
[00:08:57] Speaker D: Who was out to get me.
[00:08:59] Speaker A: And I'm pretty sure I got him.
[00:09:01] Speaker B: For, for a minute or two.
That's amazing. That is awesome.
That was the Bren Austin show in action sports. Those guys yucking it up. Pretty funny for them, I guess, if you don't care about accuracy and taking someone's reputation and rubbing it in the mud. Everyone said, Mike Malarkey is a good guy. He always was to me. I liked him though. It was very respectable. That is not cool. That's not funny.
I was a younger reporter then, and the amount of online hate and ridicule I got because Mike Malarkey thought it'd be funny to get back at his old boss.
It was not fun. So I don't have much to say. I don't blame Mike Mullarkey, but I want to. And that was not cool and that was not funny. And we should treat truth better than that.
[00:09:48] Speaker A: Mike, I agree with you.
[00:09:52] Speaker B: I also think that Ian has learned lessons along. We've all learned lessons along the way.
[00:09:56] Speaker C: But modern day Ian would not have.
[00:09:58] Speaker A: Been a fall victim to that.
[00:10:00] Speaker B: You learn hard lessons along the way. That was one of them.
Yeah, not cool.
[00:10:05] Speaker D: I get it.
[00:10:06] Speaker B: Supposed to be a trusted source.
[00:10:08] Speaker A: See, I'm sitting here and I'm, I'm.
[00:10:09] Speaker B: Like biting my lip, cuz you're right.
[00:10:11] Speaker A: Not cool.
[00:10:13] Speaker B: Don't do that.
[00:10:14] Speaker A: Don't lie to reporters.
[00:10:15] Speaker D: Don't make them look bad. But it happened to Ian, so, like.
[00:10:17] Speaker A: It'S a little funny. It's one of those things, like, we.
[00:10:19] Speaker B: Got enough distance now.
[00:10:21] Speaker D: It's been like six years.
[00:10:22] Speaker B: Like it's tiny, tiny bit funny, guys. So basically this is what happened. He called Ian Rappaport, said, hey, I'm getting an extension.
And then he reported it. All of ESPN reported, everybody reported it. And the Titans woke up. We're like, what the fuck?
Because he knew, they knew, they knew that he knew, everybody knew that he was getting fired, but instead he was getting a contract extension.
[00:10:47] Speaker A: What A baller move. Just knowing the media of today and their, their insatiable desire to be the first to report anything.
[00:10:54] Speaker B: What's. What's the quote from the Joker? Some people just like to see the world burn.
[00:10:58] Speaker A: Yeah, like, that's my. On that morning, he said, fuck it. I mean, the best part is how upset Ian Rapaport still is about it. And it's been six years. I mean, he looks like he's going to cry.
[00:11:08] Speaker B: What a baby.
[00:11:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:10] Speaker C: Stop whining.
[00:11:11] Speaker B: Like, at this point, just seriously, just laugh about it. Be like, he really got me.
[00:11:14] Speaker A: I mean, he got you good, man.
[00:11:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:16] Speaker A: All this, oh, my name.
[00:11:18] Speaker C: Sometimes you just got to accept, like a good practical joke that's just classic.
[00:11:21] Speaker B: Like, you just were the vessel. Like, it wasn't, it wasn't aimed at you. It was clearly aimed at the Titans.
[00:11:26] Speaker A: It was a little bit aimed at him because he knew that he was going to report it without verifying it with anyone else.
[00:11:29] Speaker B: Well, yeah, but I'm just saying, like.
[00:11:32] Speaker A: Just accept because he's a trusted source.
[00:11:34] Speaker B: Just accept.
Just accept.
[00:11:36] Speaker A: I mean, I think, look, it's a cautionary tale to all those first and first to report it types of news outlets, like double check, triple check, make sure you have that from multiple sources, credible sources.
[00:11:48] Speaker B: We will never be the first to report it, but you better expect it. It'll be accurate.
[00:11:52] Speaker A: We'll be the first to talk about it after it's been reported.
[00:11:54] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely.
Speaking of talking about things, one more thing. Before we get into the Browns, let me remind you to call the burning sportscast.
Don't forget to call. Leave your hot takes on the hot take hotline. Hey, wait.
[00:12:08] Speaker A: We do have a hot take this week.
[00:12:09] Speaker B: We want to start it now or we want to do it later.
[00:12:12] Speaker A: We can do it now.
[00:12:14] Speaker B: Let's hear the hot take. We got a hot take. Let's do it.
[00:12:16] Speaker A: We got a hot take. We can do.
[00:12:18] Speaker B: Hot take. Burning rivers, Sportscast, hot take hotline.
[00:12:22] Speaker A: Yeah, here we go. Yo, guys, it is Kenny Mac.
[00:12:27] Speaker B: And what a game that we saw yesterday.
[00:12:29] Speaker A: And I know everybody wants to talk about Jamis and Jerry Judy, but I'm going to go on a different route. You know what?
[00:12:36] Speaker B: You don't need to throw for 500 yards.
[00:12:38] Speaker A: You don't need to throw for four touchdowns. If you have a defensive line that.
[00:12:42] Speaker B: Can control the line of scrimmage and get some sacks.
[00:12:44] Speaker A: If you take a look at Bo.
[00:12:45] Speaker B: Nixon's stats, he had one touchdown, two interceptions, he attacked one single time, actually.
[00:12:51] Speaker A: Along across the board. If you had to put three rounds.
[00:12:54] Speaker B: Out from former teams on this team to make this team better.
[00:12:58] Speaker A: And you had Jameis Winston and everybody else. I would be going along both lines.
[00:13:03] Speaker B: The defensive line and the offensive line.
[00:13:05] Speaker A: I'd be taking Alex Mackin, James Thomas and I'd fix that lineup. And then I would take Michael Dean.
[00:13:11] Speaker B: Perry from back in the day to.
[00:13:13] Speaker A: Get that upward pressure in the middle of the line.
[00:13:15] Speaker B: That being said, I think that's where the focus has to be.
[00:13:18] Speaker A: I think if you take a look at the team, you have the ability.
[00:13:20] Speaker B: To throw 500 yards.
[00:13:22] Speaker A: You shouldn't have to do it because you have a good run support and you are getting pressure by the defense.
[00:13:29] Speaker B: So you're getting more cracks at the.
[00:13:32] Speaker A: Bat and you can run the ball.
[00:13:33] Speaker B: That makes any sense at all.
[00:13:34] Speaker A: But that's my take, guys. I know what everybody wants to talk about. The good stuff, the juicy stuff stuff.
[00:13:39] Speaker B: Fix up the offensive defensive line. You'll have a better team.
[00:13:43] Speaker A: I'm out.
[00:13:45] Speaker B: So. So Kenny Mac with another hot take. And I mean, honestly, it's true, like we are. And what you'll hear, you heard it on Sunday, is we talked a lot about the juicy stuff. We. I'm sorry, Monday night after the game, we talked about the juicy stuff. We talked about the offense going off for the most part, the passing game specifically. And that was the exciting stuff. But he's not wrong.
[00:14:07] Speaker A: Well, we also talked about that though. We also said, look like 500 yards doesn't matter. And you, when you can't run the ball, three things and you can't play defense, three things. Lose a turnover battle, like those are, those are keys to any successful football team. And as long as you can't run the ball successfully and you're playing poor defense, like you can throw over as many yards as you want and it's not going to much matter.
[00:14:28] Speaker B: And as you mentioned, we did, we did talk about these things a little bit because then we talked about Myles Garrett and the fact that he didn't get home at all and he didn't, he didn't really show up in this game. And we really could have used one of those sacks down the stretch. Yeah, yeah.
[00:14:40] Speaker A: Just to stop anywhere.
[00:14:42] Speaker B: I will say this for Kenny Mac, like, I like, I like this whole concept. Like, let's just take three players from the past and let's just throw them on the team and see what happens. I think, I think that would be fantastic if we could just like build out like a Browns all star team. You actually have a pretty good team. Especially given some of the terrible teams we've had. You'd have a pretty solid team there, for sure. But thanks a lot, Kenny Mac. We appreciate it. Yes, we agree with you. The offensive and the defensive line both need a lot of work.
So that's. That's a hot take. That's what. That's what we want.
[00:15:13] Speaker A: That's what we're after.
[00:15:14] Speaker B: That's want we want.
[00:15:15] Speaker A: Can we hear the hot takes?
[00:15:16] Speaker B: We want hot takes. We want hot takes.
[00:15:19] Speaker A: We want hotcakes.
[00:15:20] Speaker B: 3302-2780-8033-0227-8080 3302278, 080-3302278, 000 call now.
Where we at, guys? Are we. Are we standing by? Nah, no, we ain't there.
[00:15:36] Speaker A: Just a voicemail.
[00:15:37] Speaker B: But we'll put you on. On air. On air.
[00:15:39] Speaker A: Just like Kenny Mac.
[00:15:40] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely.
And with that, if you're looking for the weekly recap, looking in the wrong place. Where should they be looking, bone?
[00:15:51] Speaker C: Online?
[00:15:51] Speaker B: YouTube. Yeah, that's exactly where they should be looking because we no longer do the weekly recap here. We do it live.
[00:16:01] Speaker A: Sometimes we do it here if we have to do scheduling conflicts.
[00:16:04] Speaker B: Yeah, there it is. But, yeah, if there's scheduling conflict, we will do it here. But we do live shows after the games because we need that raw reaction. And we want you guys to send in your comments and talk to us while we're doing this.
[00:16:19] Speaker A: We were raw after dark.
[00:16:21] Speaker B: Oh, we were so raw after dark. It was 1240, about 1245 when we finished that thing up and I was tired. Damn. Yeah, we talked about. We called you out, Bone, if you didn't catch it yet. We called you out about turning into a pumpkin. We said, yeah, Bone's texting us in the middle of the game. About third quarter, all of a sudden, gone.
[00:16:38] Speaker C: Yeah, I was out after that. It was about 10:40. I went to sleep.
[00:16:42] Speaker A: You didn't miss anything.
[00:16:43] Speaker B: No. You missed the painful part of the game, which is good for you, but. Yeah. So let's go ahead and get into the bur. Sports cast. Dog of the week.
[00:16:54] Speaker A: Doesn't matter, man. You got to play tough people in.
[00:16:57] Speaker B: The National Football League.
[00:16:58] Speaker A: You got to be ready, and we got to be the dogs that we are every time we step on there.
[00:17:03] Speaker D: On Sunday and be ready to attack.
[00:17:05] Speaker B: And don't stop until we're in that locker room. All right, after the fan vote that was conducted on our social medias.
Social media. Social medias.
[00:17:15] Speaker A: Socials.
[00:17:15] Speaker B: Socials.
That's right. We now leave it up to the fans. We have all season. This is the first season for this. It's gone swimmingly. Yeah, we like having the interaction with you guys, but we want you to pick dog of the week. We'll nominate some people. And that's what we did again this week. Kenny nominated Jerry Judy, I nominated David Joku, and Bone nominated James Winston from his bed.
[00:17:36] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[00:17:37] Speaker A: Sarcophagus.
[00:17:38] Speaker B: So, yeah, we want that interaction once you guys to vote on these and then we will reveal who the dog of the week is. So this week's Burning River Sportscast Dog of the week is.
[00:17:48] Speaker A: Who is it?
[00:17:51] Speaker B: Jerry Judy.
[00:17:53] Speaker A: If you want to win, put Judy in.
[00:17:56] Speaker B: I mean, let's be honest. We all knew this was going to happen. I tried to take him from you real quick and then you called me out and you're like, that was my player to watch. I was like, okay, you can have it.
[00:18:02] Speaker A: It was literally my player to watch during the pregame preview show. And you were like, I'm going to use him as my dog of the week. And I was like, that's not. Doesn't work like that.
[00:18:09] Speaker B: Yeah, so I let you have him.
But yeah. Huge game against his former team. 200. 200 or I'm sorry. 13 targets, nine receptions, 235 yards, 26.1 yards per catch and one touchdown.
[00:18:23] Speaker A: Huge game against his former team. It was the biggest.
[00:18:26] Speaker B: The biggest ever.
[00:18:26] Speaker A: Ever against a former team ever. Period.
[00:18:30] Speaker C: Wow.
[00:18:30] Speaker A: Ever, ever.
[00:18:31] Speaker C: Feels kind of good.
[00:18:32] Speaker B: We still lost.
[00:18:33] Speaker A: Eclipsed Terrell Owens.
[00:18:35] Speaker B: That and James Winston threw for 500 yards and we lost.
[00:18:38] Speaker A: So I think that was the key. I think James threw for 497. If he would have thrown for 500, yeah, we definitely would have won. Although he threw for 171 of the Denver Broncos. So he threw for like 600 and 700 yards. Yep.
[00:18:50] Speaker B: Yeah, that's fair. That's a lot of yards.
I bet right now the NFL is kicking themselves for flexing the Cincinnati and Browns game out of Thursday night because even though they're two not very good teams like that, they entertaining football. Joe Burrow and James Winston might throw for a thousand yards in that game.
[00:19:06] Speaker A: Yeah, like, and about 12 touchdowns.
[00:19:08] Speaker B: Yeah, that might be wild.
[00:19:09] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:10] Speaker B: But. Yeah. So Jerry Judy, this week's Bernie river sportscast Dog of the week. Thank you.
[00:19:15] Speaker A: Neither team that could play.
[00:19:17] Speaker B: Yeah, it's pretty much what it is. In other Browns news here, David Ajoku in the game against the Broncos, became the franchise leader in touchdown catches since they came back in 1999. The number that he has right now is 29. And he passed Braylon Edwards.
Thank God.
Because it's embarrassing that that was the name atop the most touchdown passes for the problem.
[00:19:41] Speaker A: Braylon. Braylon was good. While.
[00:19:42] Speaker C: They don't like me because I went to Michigan.
[00:19:45] Speaker B: Damn right. You're damn right.
[00:19:49] Speaker C: People turned on you because you dropped the football a lot.
[00:19:52] Speaker B: A lot, a lot. I think he led. Didn't he lead the league and drops like three seasons in a row.
[00:19:57] Speaker A: He also set the Browns receiving record.
[00:19:59] Speaker B: That's fair. Until Josh Gordon came along and then he smoked lots of weed. And you weren't allowed to do that at the time.
[00:20:04] Speaker A: No, can't do that. You can do it now.
[00:20:06] Speaker B: You can do it now. But they really wrecked Josh Gordon's career over that. That's a. That's a topic for another day, guys.
[00:20:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:13] Speaker B: Another record in this game. James Winston had the most passing yards in the game in franchise history. This isn't since 1999.
[00:20:19] Speaker A: No, this is ever. This is ever from day one.
[00:20:22] Speaker B: Ever.
[00:20:22] Speaker A: 1946.
[00:20:23] Speaker B: 497 yards. Feels bad we've never had a 500 yard passer, but I guess that's kind of rare.
[00:20:28] Speaker A: Pretty rare.
[00:20:29] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:20:30] Speaker A: We never had one before.
[00:20:31] Speaker B: Yeah. So good on Jameis Winston. Sure. The interceptions hurt. We talked about that on Sunday, though.
[00:20:37] Speaker A: If Jamis had thrown a touchdown on that last drive, he would have hit 500.
[00:20:39] Speaker B: He would have, like. Exactly. Because I think they were at like the three yard line.
[00:20:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:44] Speaker B: And then Jerry Judy, we just talked about most receiving yards against a former team in NFL history with 235. And then finally, in other Browns news, Nathan Zagura had words about Nishan Watson on a podcast this week. Kenny, you want to. You want to talk about that a little bit here?
[00:21:01] Speaker A: Yeah, this was a bit comical.
It wasn't so much words as it was the fact that he called DeSean Watson a spam sandwich.
Spam, you know, the magic meat.
[00:21:17] Speaker B: Spiced ham. Spiced ham.
[00:21:19] Speaker A: Spiced ham, ham. Spam. Yeah.
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[00:23:19] Speaker B: Wow. First of all, this is hilarious. They took the time to write a. Write a letter like, whoever the marketing guy Hormel is that was like, guys, we got to respond.
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[00:23:28] Speaker B: Yeah, Absolutely phenomenal.
[00:23:29] Speaker A: Makes me want to go get some Spam.
[00:23:30] Speaker B: Yes, but. But secondly, here we've talked before about just the dichotomy of Nick Chubb and DeSean Watson on the same team and how wild that is. How do you think. How do you think Nick Chubb feels like when he reads stuff like this? And he's like, everybody knows I'm a real stand up guy. I'm playing alongside this piece of shit.
[00:23:49] Speaker A: Like, I mean, fortunately, Nick Chubb didn't have to play alongside of him a whole long time.
[00:23:54] Speaker B: That's true. Just a few quarters. Literally three. And then it was two. And then it was. And then it was done. Not very many, but yeah, so that was pretty awesome, but. Whoa, what's. What's that? It's time for the Burning river throwdown.
And next up, we got the division roundup.
All right, so Baltimore played on Monday Night Football last week. While we were recording, they played against the Chargers. And they won.
Bone and I were both right in that one. Kenny, you were wrong.
[00:24:39] Speaker A: Thank you.
[00:24:39] Speaker B: This week, the Bank Bengals hosted the Steelers and could not hold on to an early lead. They ended up losing 44 to 38 in a shootout.
Kenny, you and I were both wrong in this. Bone was right.
You'll start noticing a trend here that the Bone doesn't miss. But Baltimore also got clipped at home this week against the Eagles. We were both wrong, Kenny. Bone was right.
[00:25:02] Speaker A: Feels bad.
[00:25:03] Speaker B: And then finally, the Browns went to Mile High and they won. They won. I wish they would have won. They lost game despite throwing for 500 yards, having a receiver with 235 receiving yards, a tight end with two touchdowns. I can keep going. But they lost. They lost in Mile High.
And unfortunately, Bone and I were both right. I was hoping to be wrong in this one, but I wasn't. We were both right and you were wrong, Kenny.
[00:25:31] Speaker A: Thank you.
[00:25:32] Speaker B: And so for the AFC north standings are as follows. Pittsburgh still on Top at 9 and 3, Baltimore at 8 and 5, Cincinnati at 4 and 8, Cleveland at 3 and 9, and the current king of the north standings, which we will talk about later.
Bone, you're on top at 24 and 18.
All right. I am now in second place at 19 and 23. And Kenny, Kenny, you're at the bottom again, 17 and 25.
And so with that, let's take a quick trip around the NFL.
All right, so we don't have much for. For around the NFL today, but I just. I wanted to bring up the hit on Trevor Lawrence for a couple reasons. One nasty hit is nasty.
I thought Trevor Lawrence was dead.
[00:26:37] Speaker A: Yeah, he didn't look so good afterwards.
[00:26:39] Speaker B: No, but I wanted to bring this up because the player. What was the, what was the defensive player? Player's name?
The linebacker for Z's.
[00:26:51] Speaker A: Al Shahir.
[00:26:52] Speaker B: Yeah. So he ended up getting ejected for the hit and then on top of that, he got a three game suspension for the hit. And all week long, I've heard people on sports, you know, talk shows, different podcasts, different radio shows, just talking about how this shouldn't be allowed and this guy should have been suspended for the rest of the year.
[00:27:16] Speaker A: Well, yeah, I think, I think Robert Griffin, he said either the year or forever. Like there's no place in the game for this, that he should not be able to play football anymore. Yeah, yeah, look, I.
We go through this every week. Anytime there's a big collision, this is a violent game.
I'm not saying that what he did was right, but what I'm saying, what I would say is that this was, to me the very definition of a bang bang play.
When you look at when Aziz Al Shahir actually went into his tackle. Trevor had not necessarily initiated his slide. Yeah, sure, these guys are absolutely athletic and we see these guys try to, you know, let up on hits or try to, you know, adjust their body in midair at times. But I mean, this was two guys running full steam at each other and this guy was already, already, you know, essentially horizontal in the air.
[00:28:12] Speaker B: Right. Yeah, you even, I know if you look at the slow motion replay, like his shoulders already down and his, he's already kind of leaning at the time that Trevor Lawrence actually like fully initiates his slide. Like you don't know whether or not he's going to keep running or slide at that point. And if you, if you tell me I'm wrong on that. There are plenty of videos out there of Patrick Mahomes fake sliding to get an extra four or five yards on place.
[00:28:37] Speaker A: Well, sure. And I think that's where this is dangerous because. And it has high visibility. One, because it's, it's a quarterback. And two, Trevor Lawrence is kind of a name just because he was a celebrity from college football and stuff. So people know Trevor Lawrence.
And I just go back to like, these guys are football players. To me, what should have happened here was, I think penalty for sure. It was definitely a penalty. Right. You can't hit a guy while he's sliding. Sure. I don't have a problem with the reaction of the teams. The guy stacking up, stand up for the quarterback, saying, hey, don't hit our quarterback. That's fine. That's what you do. A little bit of scuffle. That's what we do, the NFL. And then that's the end of it.
[00:29:13] Speaker B: That should have been the end.
[00:29:13] Speaker A: There should be no suspensions. There should be no, I mean, he was penalized on the play.
[00:29:17] Speaker B: Nobody should have been ejected. Nobody should have been suspended.
[00:29:19] Speaker A: I mean, the NFL goes back, nobody.
[00:29:20] Speaker B: Should have been fined.
[00:29:21] Speaker A: Well, the NFL goes back and forth.
You want to $5,000 fine at the guy and say, okay, don't do that, fine. But like, I don't think that this was. And I think, and I think Al Jahir afterwards said he understood the reaction from the Jaguars bench. Totally gets it, gets it. But there was nothing that he could do to stop his momentum at that time and that he didn't intend to injure Trevor Lawrence. It wasn't, it wasn't a malicious thing. It was just, it was the way the play played out.
[00:29:48] Speaker B: And again, as, as you watch the slow motion replay in the, and just seeing him already in the motion of the tackle, I I 100% believe what he wrote in his apology.
[00:29:58] Speaker A: He was moving fast.
[00:29:59] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's. This isn't like a big, lumbering linebacker like we were used to seeing back in the day. This dude runs probably a 4, 5, 40 and just like, probably faster than that.
[00:30:08] Speaker A: Ye. And so I just. My thing is, like, if we're going to get to this point where every time a quarterback takes a big hit, then, like, maybe we need to consider either outlawing quarterback runs, which. Which would be a huge loss for the game. But I'm tired of the. I'm tired of this reaction afterward. Right. I'm tired of seeing players get suspended or, you know, potentially being threatened to be thrown out of the league, those sorts of things. Or the other thing is you also have to look at quarterbacks who use this to their advantage, and you have to say, if you're going to slide, like, you can't fake slide. The moment that you fake slide or hesitate into your slide, that should be a penalty. And it should be the most egregious penalty in the NFL. It should be the number one most penal penalty. That should put the ball back at your own one. If you fake slide, you get the ball at your own one. Good luck.
[00:30:54] Speaker B: Because it messes with the integrity of the game. Like, it's all right.
I don't know if he went that far.
[00:30:59] Speaker A: Wishy washy about where. When you're going to go down. Like, no, like, you either get on the ground or you don't.
[00:31:05] Speaker B: Yeah. And he didn't go that far as far as saying all the way back at the one. That's an interesting one. I kind of like that. But Tom. Tom Brady actually said on a show this week, he said, if you're going to penalize this guy, then quarterbacks who fake slide also need penalized. Absolutely. And so, yeah, I'm right there with you. I'm. I'm so, like, at first my initial reaction was probably the same as everybody else's. I was like, ah, this is really bad. But then I saw the slow motion, I saw his apology, and I saw all these videos being played of Patrick Mahomes and other quarterbacks fake sliding. And I'm like, yeah, like, how. What are you supposed to do as a defender at that point?
[00:31:41] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, it's already hard enough. Right.
[00:31:43] Speaker B: Because if he would have fake slid and then got the first down, like, who's at fault now? Like, now you're like, oh, this guy missed a tackle about how hard it.
[00:31:49] Speaker A: Is just to sack a quarterback. In the backfield, you can't put your body weight on them. And things like, those things are crazy. Heaven forbid your helmet comes in contact with their helmet.
But to me, like, again, without ruining the game, without having to go through and make a bunch of new rules, or like the outcome should have just been, yeah, it was a legal play. He had a quarterback that was sliding. Throw the flag and let's move on. It's football, it's a violent game. Sometimes guys are going to get hurt. Sometimes accidents happen. And it's really unfortunate when someone gets injured and it's bad and it's ugly or they have to be carried off the field. But it is part of the game.
[00:32:21] Speaker B: Like you said, go ahead and throw the flag, have the scuffle, doesn't matter.
[00:32:24] Speaker A: I mean, here's the thing. No one put a gun to Trevor Lawrence's head and said, hey, do you want to make $150 million?
Like, no. He goes out there every week knowing something like this could happen and it could be not the end of his career, it could be the end of his life. And that's the risk. You assume when you step out onto the field with grown ass men and say, come at me.
[00:32:40] Speaker B: And let's be honest, it's Trevor Lawrence. I'm willing to bet he's going to come back in a day or two when, when he's feeling right and say, yeah, I hold no ill will against.
[00:32:47] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm sure he's, you know, hopefully he'll be, he'll be fine. But I just, I'm just so sick of, like, every time a quarterback gets hit, we have to go through this whole thing. It's like, well, either don't let us hit the quarterbacks then, or like, let's come up with a different play.
[00:32:59] Speaker B: You can't have it both ways.
[00:33:00] Speaker A: You can't have it both ways. It's gonna, it'll wreck the game.
[00:33:03] Speaker B: Bone, you were a linebacker. What do you think about all this?
[00:33:06] Speaker C: I saw the headlines before I saw the play. So I was like going into it. Like, I feel like I read a headline that was like, this guy should be charged, you know, criminally. And I saw the play, I literally saw the play and I said, that was weak. Like, I was like, all right, big deal. Yeah, he led with his forearm, right? And he hit the guy in the helmet. Maybe he was trying to prevent himself from going helmet to helmet or shoulder to helmet or shoulder to neck or whatever it is. It's like if Trevor Lawrence didn't want to get Blasted like that. Maybe you slide a yard before the linebacker.
[00:33:36] Speaker B: Right.
[00:33:36] Speaker C: Another yard before. Instead of trying to get that extra yard, he's trying to prevent you from getting that extra yard, man. So.
[00:33:41] Speaker A: Right.
[00:33:42] Speaker C: You know, protect yourself a little bit better.
[00:33:43] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, how many games do we see in the NFL every. Every week that come down to absolute inches?
[00:33:48] Speaker C: Literally inches.
[00:33:49] Speaker B: Oh, I actually. It's funny that this was a thing and you're talking about preventing the extra yard, because in the Browns game, it was actually in a pretty key moment. Bo Nicks slid towards the end of the game, and he didn't get the first down or anything. The announcers actually were like, you got to man up. Like, that's the time that you man up. But I specifically watched that because you're supposed to mark them where they start the slide. They gave him three full yards past where he started his slide, and then it ended up costing the Browns, I think, like, two plays later, if I'm not mistaken, they scored or kicked the field. Whatever happened, they went ahead after that, and I was like, that's pretty messed up. Like, it's supposed to be several yards back. And the replay show, they had one down the line where it showed him starting to slide three yards before that. So, like, to your point bone, like, if you don't let him get those extra yards even on the slide, they can't mark him three yards ahead because he's gone. But I don't know. It's. I just think the reaction was. Was ridiculous, so I wanted to bring it up here.
[00:34:51] Speaker A: Yeah. Agreed. Yeah. I'm so sick of the reactions on these things like this. This happens in football. I mean, she's where we come from. And the time that we played like this was.
[00:35:00] Speaker B: Those are better times.
[00:35:01] Speaker A: Happened in practice once a week.
[00:35:03] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:35:04] Speaker A: Sometimes you get your ass knocked out. That's football.
[00:35:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Yep. I agree.
From controversy in the NFL. I know this isn't NFL related, but there was some controversy at the college level this week. We were on the wrong side of it, for one, but flag planning apparently is a big deal now. Like, okay, we'll start with the Ohio State game. Obvious, we had to eat our words. We. We gave Ohio State their flowers last week, talked about how good they were, and then Ryan Day, who I blame solely for this, went out there, and.
[00:35:35] Speaker A: They prompt, like, all over, just laid.
[00:35:37] Speaker B: An egg, an absolute egg, and got beat in every facet of the game by a completely inferior team. And I'm not.
[00:35:44] Speaker A: They were.
[00:35:45] Speaker B: They aren't good.
[00:35:46] Speaker A: They were a 23 and a half point underdog. So this was the worst loss since, like, 1974 in terms of the spread before the game.
[00:35:53] Speaker B: Yeah. The Wolverines this year were not good.
[00:35:56] Speaker A: No.
[00:35:57] Speaker B: And so they beat Ohio State in Columbus, like, at the shoe. They beat Ohio State. And so the players after the game came out and they wanted to plant their flag and. In the middle of Ohio State's field. And so a couple things here. One, before we get into the actual flag planning, I want to say Ryan Day Day. Another reason why I was pissed off at Ryan Day, besides just losing to a shit team that happens to be the team up north that we all hate. While the players are freaking out about them planting their flag, Ryan Day was just standing there, like, with just the dumbest look on his face, like, what? What's. Like. And he actually said out loud to Jack Sawyer, he's like, what? What? What happened? What's going on? And you could hear it in the. And I'm like, are you kidding? Like, seriously, like, you're not at least out there trying to break things up and, like, having some emotion and yelling at their coach, like, what are you guys doing? At that point?
[00:36:53] Speaker A: It was a scene. I mean, the police were on the field.
[00:36:55] Speaker B: Yeah. A couple guys got pepper sprayed. So we'll rewind a little bit. Yeah. Michigan comes out, plants their flag at midfielder, tries to. It's turf. Everybody forgets that Ohio State has turf and he can't really plant a flag.
[00:37:07] Speaker A: Most of the fields at this point.
[00:37:09] Speaker B: Or turf, put it in, you try and plant it, and it just falls over. But anyways. And then Ohio State guys come out and a big, big brawl breaks out. Like, I'm talking brawl. Like, people were just swinging and throwing.
[00:37:20] Speaker C: It was a good fight.
[00:37:21] Speaker B: Yeah, it was good. And I was a fan of it. I didn't see anything wrong with it. I know that we talked off air and I said, these guys have pads on. Like, they're mostly protected. Like, there's. Is there a chance for injury? Sure, That's.
[00:37:32] Speaker A: That's the big thing.
[00:37:33] Speaker B: It's a big rivalry.
[00:37:34] Speaker A: It's. It's the player injury side of it. But I agree with you. Like, that's. Those are the kinds of moments that make a rivalry. Yeah. There's a reason this has been going on for 100 years, and we hate.
[00:37:43] Speaker B: Well, and that's the other thing, is people around college football, especially outside of the state of Ohio, but even Ohio State fans, and probably fans of the team up north, they forget why the game is the biggest game in college Football.
Ohio and Michigan are the only two states to have ever declared war on each other like this. This was back around 1900 and the battle was over to Toledo, just to give some history.
[00:38:13] Speaker A: Actual territorial.
[00:38:14] Speaker B: Yeah, it was over the port of Toledo.
[00:38:15] Speaker A: It was over flagpole.
[00:38:16] Speaker B: At the time, Michigan owned the port of Toledo, which is a major. One of the biggest ports in the northern. It was the biggest port on Erie and one of the biggest ports in the northern part of the country.
And Michigan owned Toledo at the time. And Ohio actually owned the Upper Peninsula.
And so as a. They declared war on each other because Ohio wanted to. Toledo. Well, eventually, Fast forward. No shots were fired, but there was bad blood. Families hated each other. Families from Ohio and families from Michigan hated each other over this. And what happened was there was a compromise. Ohio took Toledo, Michigan took the Upper Peninsula, and that was the end of it. But again, families were affected. People were not happy about this. And that's why this whole thing started. An actual war was declared. Declared. And that's why Ohio and Michigan hate each other. That's why it's the best rivalry in all of sports. And so you see a fight here and people, like, have a big problem with it.
[00:39:12] Speaker A: And the rivalry is full of moments like that. Right. I mean, it's full of guys either flipping the bird or punching dudes when they're on the ground or taking their shoes off and throwing them, like just a bunch of silly, petty bullshit. Which is what adds to the reason we hate each other so much.
[00:39:26] Speaker B: The only thing that would have made this better. Well, the only two things that would have made this better is. And I know you can't have one without the other, but is. Is if Ohio State would have somehow like the flag plan. The fight that happened afterwards was still a good moment for the rivalry, in my opinion. Yeah. But if Ohio State would have won and then two. I think it was the 49ers game in the NFL this week. And the dude, the offensive lineman, had a defensive guy on his foot and literally turned around and just decked him in the face. Yeah, like, if that would have happened in the middle of this, like, I would have been happy.
I would have really enjoyed that.
[00:39:59] Speaker C: He just like straight punched him right.
[00:40:00] Speaker A: To the helmet and nobody even saw him. Everybody saw him. Reference, but they didn't see it in real time.
[00:40:06] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm sure he's probably going to get suspended after the fact. But like, during the game, it's like. And like. And then it happened around college football, and that's why it became A big deal. Like, apparently all the teams got together this week and said, we're going to. We're going to plant flags.
[00:40:19] Speaker A: Well, and again, now it leads to a bunch of silly political discussions around.
[00:40:23] Speaker B: Should we ban it?
[00:40:24] Speaker A: What do we do? Do we ban flag planning? Or what are we going to do when this happens?
Obviously, in this case, Ohio State and Michigan were both fined $100,000 to the university.
But look, I'll be the first to say probably, and a popular opinion here, because it happened to Ohio State, but, like, I don't have a problem with this. You had four hours to go fight for your. Your turf and you. And you gave it up. You. They deserved the opportunity to put their flag in your ass.
[00:40:50] Speaker C: Like, they were tougher.
[00:40:51] Speaker A: They were tougher. They out. They out beasted you all day long. And you want to cry about it afterward. Like, that just seems weak. The. The answer to me is just if you lose on your home turf, like, your coaches and your staff should just be like, look, locker room locked. Locker room done. We're out of here. Or the other team. The other team deserves the chance to. Or have their moment and celebrate on your field, because you didn't.
[00:41:12] Speaker B: You.
[00:41:12] Speaker A: You lost.
[00:41:13] Speaker B: I'm all for the fighting. I say just go fight the team. Like, that's me. But I think another option is lining them up at, like, the 30 and say, go. You gotta watch that now.
[00:41:22] Speaker A: That's what happens. You can sit down and cross your legs. You're gonna watch them celebrate on your home turf.
[00:41:26] Speaker B: You ever want this to happen again? No. Okay, then. Yeah. But no, I'm all for the fighting. Let them just beat each other's asses. That's fine.
[00:41:32] Speaker A: Well, I'm just all for the flag plan. I mean, if you don't protect your turf, that's what you get. You get to be embarrassed.
[00:41:38] Speaker B: That's fair. Well, and to the point of, should we ban in or should we not? Absolutely not.
[00:41:43] Speaker A: No.
[00:41:43] Speaker B: 100%.
[00:41:46] Speaker A: Because when we go back to Ann Arbor and we be. And we beat Michigan's ass, I want that big block O planted in the middle of the stadium.
[00:41:55] Speaker B: Absolutely. Absolutely. And I want them all to fight over.
Yeah. So, yeah, I'm with you. But like I said, like, seven other schools did it this week, and so it became like a. It's a hot button issue right now. Everybody's talking about, should we ban it?
[00:42:09] Speaker A: Arizona State plan, the Trident.
[00:42:11] Speaker B: That was. That was one of my favorites. It was awesome.
But, yeah, I mean, I don't know. Bo, what are your. What are Your thoughts on the flag planning controversy?
[00:42:20] Speaker C: I love the fight. I was like.
Like, to Kenny's point, I felt like they kind of deserved their chance to do it. I felt like they did a little bit too soon. With everybody around. What'd you expect, you know? So the highest state players reacted the way I think they probably should. Should have, honestly.
[00:42:34] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm with you.
[00:42:35] Speaker C: And a fight broke out, and I thought it was fun to watch.
[00:42:38] Speaker B: Yeah. It's just a great. Like, everybody's like, oh, this is bad for the sport. No, it's not. This is great for the rivalry. This is. This is the whole.
[00:42:46] Speaker A: The whole.
[00:42:47] Speaker C: I guess it was kind of like a stampede. Whatever they started. Mason people, which I thought was a little excessive, but, I mean, they had to get control. Those are some big dudes you're trying to, like, get to stop.
[00:42:56] Speaker B: Well, and to be fair. Yeah. I mean, it was. It wasn't like it was a small group of players fighting out of both teams. It was like the entire both sides. Yeah. And there wasn't surprisingly, like, if you want to stop this, you probably should put more cops on duty. There was like. I mean, there was a decent amount of cops, but to your point and your point, with how big these guys are and those types of things, you'd think you'd have more personnel there, ready to, like, just create a shield wall right there. Like, nah, we're not going to fight, guys.
[00:43:25] Speaker A: Yeah, well, you least expect your coaching staffs probably to get involved.
[00:43:29] Speaker B: So that's the other thing that goes back to Ryan Day. Like, why isn't Ryan Day in the middle of the field trying to pull guys off and yelling at their coach for, you know, like.
[00:43:37] Speaker A: Yeah, I just. I just go back to, like, your time to fight about this was the last four hours. Like, sure.
[00:43:42] Speaker B: Just don't punch players. Ryan Day. We had that happen once, and it didn't. It didn't end well.
[00:43:47] Speaker A: True. It was. It is also funny to me when we talk about, like, safety being number one priority, and it's like, oh, these guys are going to punch each other. Like, they're grown men.
[00:43:54] Speaker C: Right.
[00:43:55] Speaker A: The grown men punch each other.
[00:43:56] Speaker B: These people.
[00:43:57] Speaker A: And they live. Yeah, all these are usually fine.
[00:44:00] Speaker B: 99% of the time we have sports.
[00:44:02] Speaker A: In this country where the entire goal is to punch each other as hard as you can deal. The other guy falls, falls asleep. Like, if one guy catches a haymaker in a helmet, it's not going to be the end of the world.
[00:44:10] Speaker B: The hand's probably going to take more damage than the Helmet.
Yeah. And, like, sometimes we just got to.
[00:44:17] Speaker A: Let grown men be grown men.
[00:44:18] Speaker B: These people that are calling for banning of this specifically because of the fights, they would. They would not like what they saw at the bottom of a pile up in a football game.
[00:44:27] Speaker A: No.
[00:44:28] Speaker B: People are just, like, grabbing each other's nuts.
Twist it. Twist his dick. Yeah, they're grabbing each other's nuts, pulling, like, putting their fingers in each other's eyes and noses and mouths and all kinds of stuff. Like, it, like, crazy happens down there and you can't see it.
[00:44:43] Speaker A: I mean, think about how many times a ball comes out of a pile and just a random dude has it. Like, how do you think he got it? Yeah, like somebody was getting fingered in the butt.
[00:44:51] Speaker B: Yeah, let's twist his dick. The old dick. Twist the old dick.
[00:44:56] Speaker A: Twist.
[00:44:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. But with that, let's get fired up some more with our Hot three.
I'm the heat in your lungs I'm just smoke in the sky I'm the gas in the tank gonna turn it.
[00:45:09] Speaker C: Up, turn it down I'm hot to.
[00:45:11] Speaker B: The touch, burning up I'm hot hot.
[00:45:13] Speaker A: To the touch I'm hot to the.
[00:45:15] Speaker B: Touch burning up I'm hot I'm hot like fire, fire, fire, fire all right, so the guys this week on the Hot 3, it's Christmas season now. It's. I mean, we're recording, and there's a freaking blizzard out.
What can we say?
[00:45:29] Speaker A: Christmas.
[00:45:29] Speaker B: We say Christmas on this show.
[00:45:30] Speaker C: Hell, yeah, we say Christmas.
[00:45:31] Speaker A: I don't.
[00:45:32] Speaker B: I don't think that's controversial.
If you don't agree with me, call the hot take hotline, 330-227-8080.
But we're gonna do Christmas cookies because I love Christmas cookies. My whole family calls me Santa Claus.
[00:45:46] Speaker A: You might as well just get MAGA printed on your hat.
[00:45:49] Speaker B: Don't even start with me.
But yeah, my family calls me Santa Claus because I eat all the Christmas cookies. They have to, like, hide them from me and stuff. So I'm pretty excited this week. And so I'm actually gonna start.
I'm gonna caveat this with. I like pretty much all Christmas cookies.
[00:46:05] Speaker A: I mean, who doesn't like cookies?
[00:46:06] Speaker B: Yeah, I like. I like pretty much all Christmas cookies.
[00:46:07] Speaker A: These are our favorite cookies, though.
[00:46:09] Speaker B: But my hot three this week, number three, pizzelles. You guys ever had pizzelles?
[00:46:16] Speaker A: Maybe.
[00:46:16] Speaker C: I don't know what they're called.
[00:46:18] Speaker A: They have, like, a pizzelle maker and stuff.
[00:46:20] Speaker B: You see, they must not be that Italian, because they don't they don't say pizzell, they say pizzello.
[00:46:25] Speaker A: I said pizzelle. I don't.
[00:46:28] Speaker B: It's patzel.
[00:46:28] Speaker A: But anyways, I mean, you're not Italian. You're fucking poor.
[00:46:31] Speaker B: My family, my in laws are.
Well, I don't know if you're allowed to say that, but you can bleep yourself. I'll let everybody else leave it up to the imagination. What you actually said. I'm not offended because I hate you. But anyways, pizzelles at number three.
My father in law actually makes Patel's. Every year he gets out the Patel iron and he makes just batches upon batches of them. They're the real flat ones. They're basically just like. You know what I'm talking about? Like they're real big.
[00:47:01] Speaker C: I've had those before.
[00:47:02] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And he makes Patels every year and his recipe is phenomenal. Instead of a niece, their family uses oranges and they just literally put them in a blender and add them to the batter. Whatever you call it.
[00:47:15] Speaker A: Anus.
[00:47:16] Speaker B: No, I don't.
And so it's a little bit different than what a lot of people think as far as the flavor of a pizzelle. But it's part of the reason why I love it so much is that it goes so well with coffee in the morning. Like you eat a pitzel with coffee and it's phenomenal. And my wife made a batch this year and it's the best batch I've ever.
[00:47:37] Speaker A: You sound like my mom when she goes to the Mexican restaurant and she's like, hola, senor, I'm gonna eat your puddles.
[00:47:46] Speaker B: Might have to kill you in the middle of this segment.
[00:47:50] Speaker A: Give me an enchilada with some number two.
[00:47:54] Speaker B: Number two for me. Quesadilla. Thumbprints. I love thumbprints. What's better than like a cookie that's just like dough with the little thumbprint in the middle and you could put different toppings on it. Very versatile. And then just jelly. Just a dollop of jelly right there in the middle.
[00:48:12] Speaker A: Very versatile.
[00:48:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:48:13] Speaker A: I've seen thumbprints that have the cookies made out of peanut butter and then you put the jelly in. It's like peanut butter and jelly.
[00:48:18] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And so you can do a lot with it. A lot of different flavor combinations. And they're all fantastic. Literally all of them.
[00:48:24] Speaker A: What I don't like about the thumbprint is that someone's thumb was in my cookie.
[00:48:28] Speaker B: That's fair. I'm sure nowadays you could probably Buy a thing to make the thumbprint. But then is it really a thumbprint?
[00:48:35] Speaker A: Well, that'd be like an AI thumbprint.
[00:48:37] Speaker B: I guess we gotta ask ourselves, where'd they put their thumb before they put it?
[00:48:40] Speaker A: Were they in the bottom of a scrum?
[00:48:42] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a. That' That's a question for another day. But I do love thumbprints. So they're number two. And number one, I don't know if this is the proper name for them, but this is what my mom calls them, is chocolate crinkles.
And so this one is the one where it's literally a chocolate cookie.
[00:48:55] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:48:56] Speaker A: Soft on the inside with the flour and stuff.
[00:48:58] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You roll it in the powdered sugar so it's completely covered in powdered sugar. But then when it bakes, it kind of, you know, it starts to fall down and then you get like, it looks like it's all broken apart.
[00:49:09] Speaker C: That's exactly what you're talking about.
[00:49:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Those are my favorite cookies. My mom's been making those, those for. Since I can remember, probably before I was born. And they. There's never a bad time to eat those cookies.
[00:49:21] Speaker A: I love cookies.
[00:49:22] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, cookies are phenomenal. So chocolate crinkles, number one for me.
But yeah, I mean, again I'm. I'm saying I love all cookies, so this was tough. Yeah, I like all cookies. So that's, that's my hot three bone. What's your hot three? Christmas cookies.
[00:49:37] Speaker C: All right, so I feel like the Christmas cookie platter at like Christmas, Christmas Eve, whatever. It has like everything on it.
[00:49:45] Speaker B: Oh, so many cookies.
[00:49:46] Speaker C: So I'm going off script here a little bit with a buckeye as my number three.
[00:49:51] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:49:51] Speaker C: It's always there.
[00:49:52] Speaker B: Yeah, I like that.
[00:49:53] Speaker C: It has a lot of components to cookies. You know, chocolate and peanut butter.
[00:49:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:49:58] Speaker C: Counting it.
[00:49:58] Speaker B: Let me just say this.
[00:49:59] Speaker C: And they're always at Christmas.
[00:50:00] Speaker B: Anything that you've ever seen, ever at Christmas time counts as a Christmas cookie. Fair enough.
[00:50:06] Speaker C: So, yeah, buckeyes are delicious. I'm gonna put that at three. Number two is just a regular, just like cut out sugar cookie that's super soft with frosting, you know, preferably decorated by one of my kids. You know, as long as it doesn't have too many sprinkles.
[00:50:21] Speaker B: But it can be too. You can be heavy handed there.
[00:50:24] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:50:25] Speaker B: Especially if they're like the bigger, like the, like that, not the bigger with like the crystal sprinkles that are hard.
[00:50:29] Speaker C: I prefer zero sprinkles, to tell you the truth. But sometimes they're necessary for. To make it look Christmassy.
[00:50:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:50:34] Speaker C: And then you brought up the crinkle cookie. And I didn't really know what to call it and I looked it up, but I put down a lemon crinkle cookie. So basically any type of lemon cookie that is around Christmas, like a lemon bar or the crinkle cookie came up. I'm a big fan of lemon flavored cookie.
[00:50:52] Speaker B: Lemon crinkles. I do love lemon cookies.
[00:50:54] Speaker C: That's my number one.
[00:50:55] Speaker B: I do love lemon cookies.
[00:50:57] Speaker C: I think a lemon dessert is a very.
I don't know how to.
[00:51:02] Speaker B: Underrated.
[00:51:03] Speaker C: Underrated because I think it's hard to do. It is honestly, because chocolate's so easy, peanut butter so easy. So I give credit to people who make a lemon dessert that's delicious.
[00:51:12] Speaker B: And a good lemon dessert is really good. I know you're not a fan, but I agree with you, Bone.
A good lemon dessert is when they do it right, it's always phenomenal. Sure.
[00:51:24] Speaker A: I just don't like citrus in my dessert. I like fruit. I like citrus. I'd rather eat a lemon though than eat a lemon square.
[00:51:30] Speaker B: That's pretty weird. You're like my two year daughter.
[00:51:32] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:51:33] Speaker A: Yeah. I would eat a lot of lemons. I like lemons.
[00:51:37] Speaker B: You're weird.
Well, since you love lemons so much, tell us about your hot three Christmas cookies.
[00:51:43] Speaker A: Lemons, lemons and lemons. Number three.
I don't know whether these are technically thumbprints or some people call them blossoms, but I'll go with the. The Reese's thumbprint blossom.
[00:51:54] Speaker B: The peanut butter blossoms.
[00:51:56] Speaker A: Peanut butter classic blossoms with the little Reese cup inside.
Number two, I'm gonna go like Bone the iced sugar cookie.
This is more, I think just for the experience. Quite honestly. Like when I think about Christmas, part of Christmas to me is like at some point you should make some iced sugar cookies. Like whether it's with your nieces, nephews, cousins, whoever, or with your kids. Like you should be doing some kind of like sugar cookies cutouts and just icing just a Christmas tree.
[00:52:24] Speaker B: It's easy and it's always a fun.
[00:52:25] Speaker A: Activity and they're delicious afterwards.
But yeah, just like decorating cookies was always like a thing that was. There's always like a day of like we decorate all the cookies. Yeah. And then number one, I'm gonna go buckeyes. Cause there's just nothing better than peanut butter and chocolate. I know Bone just called me easy, but I guess you are easy.
[00:52:44] Speaker C: No, I said the dessert was easy to satisfy.
[00:52:47] Speaker A: I'm a simpleton. It's okay.
[00:52:49] Speaker B: Bone Kenny is so easy to satisfy.
[00:52:52] Speaker A: Like peanut butter and chocol.
[00:52:54] Speaker B: Yeah, you had two in there that are peanut butter and chocolate.
[00:52:57] Speaker A: I am a simpleton.
I don't like any of those complex flavors on my palate.
[00:53:02] Speaker C: You like key lime pie.
[00:53:04] Speaker A: No citrus.
[00:53:05] Speaker B: Your peanut butter and chocolate desserts are below us. We love lemon.
[00:53:10] Speaker A: Just a peanut butter and chocolate plebe.
[00:53:12] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Good, good.
[00:53:15] Speaker C: I'm also allergic to chocolate. It makes my skin break out. So I try to stay where from chocolate desserts.
[00:53:21] Speaker B: Well, when you eat as healthy as you do and you're a top ten.
[00:53:23] Speaker A: Crossfitter in the world, Top three crossfitter nation.
[00:53:26] Speaker B: That's insane.
[00:53:27] Speaker A: You gotta find alternatives.
[00:53:28] Speaker B: Yeah, but guys, all this cookie talk is making me want to go home and eat lots of cookies.
[00:53:33] Speaker A: I don't even know how many cookies yet. It's too early, unfortunately.
[00:53:35] Speaker B: We got a lot of show left, so that'll do it for hot three. Kenny, you know what it's time for?
[00:53:40] Speaker A: My guess is an interview.
[00:53:43] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. It's time for another Browns backers interview. Oh, okay. It was supposed to be the North Royalton Brownsbackers as I mentioned earlier, but due to some unforeseen circumstances, they had to drop out. So we'll get Tim back on the show next season for sure.
But this is something that we started last season. We're continuing with it this season. I just mentioned we're going to continue with the next. Next season. We just highlight brownsbackers groups because they're great people, huge Browns fans, and they do a lot for their communities. So with that, let's go ahead and get into the next interview in the series.
[00:54:18] Speaker A: Powered by Riverside F.
[00:54:25] Speaker B: All right, so for this Brownsbackers interview, please help me welcome our friends from about 40 minutes to the north. Ish the President of the Strongsville Brownsbackers, Patty Jo.
Thank you so much for joining us. How are you today?
[00:54:40] Speaker E: I am doing. I'm doing well, thanks. I'm really excited to be here with you guys.
[00:54:44] Speaker B: Yeah, we're excited to have you. So it's always a good time to talk to Brownsbackers in general, but especially I really like talking to some of the ones that are around the Cleveland area just because there's one. There's so many around the Cleveland area. It's wild that obviously that's where the team is, but there's just so many around the Cleveland area. So it's going to take. We could do a full, like, I don't know, three, four seasons just on the Cleveland area ones. But Patty, tell us a little bit about your chapter.
[00:55:14] Speaker E: Well, the Strongsville Brownsbackers.
It used to be in Strongsville many years ago and then it kind of went away from a while and it was about in the middle of last season that our watch location and I decided to bring it back. So we're a relatively new chapter.
[00:55:33] Speaker B: This is.
[00:55:33] Speaker E: We finished one full year. We're in our started late last season. This is our first full season as being a Brownsbacker chapter. We have 161 members.
[00:55:44] Speaker B: You're way ahead of a lot of other ones with just being a season in. Yeah.
[00:55:48] Speaker E: And I'll tell you, you know, there are a lot of Browns backers chapters in the Cleveland area, but there's just that many Browns fans. Right. Like it's not a competition. We really do work together and share resources and share ideas.
But it's been. It's a lot of work, but it's a lot of fun and it's just a really great way to sort of structure that Brown's viewing because sometimes you just need to be with friends watching the game.
[00:56:13] Speaker B: Yeah. You need a support group.
So you mentioned that you, you started it back up at the old viewing location. What is your view location?
[00:56:24] Speaker E: So we're at Mulligan's Bar and Grill. It's on the Corner of Route 82 and Prospect Road in Strongsville.
Our members it's free to join our Brownsbackers chapters. Different chapters structure things differently. But it's free to join. Anybody's welcome to come up. And if people just want to come up and watch a game with us, our raffles and our 50 50s are open to anybody at the bar. We do do special things for our members as well. So it does pay to sign up.
[00:56:53] Speaker B: Yeah. And I know you mentioned it's free to join for anybody that doesn't know. If you go to brownsbackers worldwide.com you can actually create a profile and you can sign up for as many different brownsbackers groups as you want to. So kind of Patty, Joe, I'm not sure if you know this, but you got. If you haven't already, you will be getting three new members today because as we do these interviews, we like to join each group and support them in any way we can can.
So you know you will be getting three new members. We've signed up to. I don't even know what we're up to now. There's quite a few. Several. So.
So yeah. So what kind of. I know Brownsbackers groups in general. They're always doing some charity work or some community service. What are you guys involved with?
[00:57:37] Speaker E: Yeah, so our charities this year was the Cleveland Browns foundation to support youth sports and stay in the game education activities. We also supported the Berea Anim rescue. So during the Browns Bengals game, we did a dog food cat food drive.
So we kind of like themed it out for the, you know, for the game day.
And we had a, you know, a couple of really nice autographed footballs that we were able to raffle off. And we gave the Paralyzed Veterans of America $1,000 just recently.
We keep swear jars out on the tables for every game, which is a really great way to ra some money. And at the end of the season.
[00:58:24] Speaker B: All of that easy money.
[00:58:25] Speaker E: Easy money. And all that easy money is going to go to the Strongsville food bank.
[00:58:30] Speaker B: Awesome.
[00:58:31] Speaker E: Yeah, I think that's one of the best things about the Browns backers in general and just having that organized Browns, you know, fan base. I know a lot of teams have their fan bases and, you know, things like that, but the Browns really do a nice job of supporting us so that we can support our local charities. And that's true not just here in, you know, in the Cleveland area, but across all, you know, 390 sub chapters worldwide.
[00:58:57] Speaker B: Absolutely. And so, you know, obviously you're doing a lot of good work for these charities, and a lot of that comes from your weekly viewings and raffles and those types of things. Are there any events coming up either the rest of this season or even into next season that you guys are going to be raising more money for.
[00:59:16] Speaker A: In the off season?
[00:59:17] Speaker B: During the off season?
[00:59:17] Speaker E: Yeah, we haven't planned the off season yet. You know, we're still kind of new. I want, you know, we have 100. I mean, it's nice to have 161.
But once we get, you know, toward the end of the season, we'll get a committee together and see what the members want to do in the off season. Right. Because it really is member driven as well. So I think we still need to have that conversation with our group and see what want to do.
[00:59:44] Speaker B: Throw out golf outing. It's always a popular one. People love it.
[00:59:46] Speaker A: It sounds like you're off to a really great start there. So best of, best of luck to you. You guys playing the off season, quick question just in terms of this season, I guess, obviously this isn't the year that we had hoped in terms of the success of the team is have you seen crowds dwindle as the season's gone? On. Or are you still getting pretty good attendance for watch parties?
[01:00:06] Speaker E: I. Well, I think we get pretty good attendance and, and what we, you know, we do do members door prizes. So we do have people sort of check in to get a ticket so that they can, you know, get it into this free door prize for members. So we're getting anywhere? Well, on average between like 40 and 60 people per game. The first two games were huge.
[01:00:27] Speaker B: Right? Every.
[01:00:27] Speaker E: Just everyone was so excited to start the season.
We see a dwindle off on those Thursday night games and Monday night games only because it's late if people have to work, you know, it's not a. You know, I just don't think people feel like I'm compelled to come out there and, you know, stay out late on a work night or school night or things like that. But we have a group of at least 20, 25 who will be out no matter what. We're expecting a big crowd for. For this Sunday.
[01:00:57] Speaker B: Yeah, Browns fans will be out in droves, especially, you know, since obviously the last time we played the Steelers, we won. So.
[01:01:05] Speaker A: Good vibes.
[01:01:06] Speaker B: Yeah. But no, I mean, that's all. Everything. All great things.
And I have a question for you. This is more for you personally. Obviously you're in Strongsville, so it may be an easy answer, but how exactly did you become a Browns fan?
[01:01:21] Speaker E: Well, I grew up on the east side of Cleveland, so I've always lived in. In Northeast Ohio. And I think that if you're born here, it's. You just are like, I need. I think it just. It just happens. Somewhere in like, toddlerhood, you just. You just become a Browns fan. My dad, when I was little, he had season tickets for most of my childhood, and that was always really special when some of his friends couldn't go and I would, you know, get to go with them to the old Muni Stadium. You know, we'd take the rap. I mean, it was a huge production, right? You take the rapid down, you got to stop and get your sub sandwiches. It was a lot of really fun, positive memories. And I did it to my children and to my granddaughter. Like, we're going to the Browns games because I'm going to make you a Browns fan, too. You're not leaving me alone in this, people.
[01:02:10] Speaker B: That's how it happens. We're all just kind of. We're born into it. And I have. I know both of us have young children right now. And now my daughter, who's 2, always knows when the orange helmets come on the screen, it's let's go, Brown. So she's already been brainwashed and she's set up for a life of misery. So.
[01:02:31] Speaker E: Yeah.
[01:02:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:02:32] Speaker E: I'll tell you what, you know, if I could just, like, quickly add something, it was really interesting because my, My son was born when there were no Browns. Right. So doing during those couple of years, you know, that's, that's when he's, you know, that's when he showed up in my life. And I think there's a, There's a time there where a lot of, you know, he was. He was a child, so he didn't really know much of anything. But, you know, if you were a elementary school age kid or something like that, and there were no Browns, if your family was not just a dedicated Browns fan, when there weren't the Browns, you know, it was easy for someone to, you know, take a look at whoever. Whoever was hot at the time, you know.
[01:03:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. And it is, it's funny, I find that most people in the area that aren't Browns fans, that's. That's the timeframe they were typically either born or first getting into football, at least.
[01:03:24] Speaker A: The unfortunate thing is a lot of them gravitated towards, like, Pittsburgh. Yeah. You.
[01:03:31] Speaker B: Mean with that. I want to get into the football side of things a little bit here, obviously.
[01:03:35] Speaker A: I got one real quick other question. You mentioned going to the games when you were little.
Did you ever go to any very cold snow games when you were little? So we had this debate last week on the show about whether or not that was a good thing or not.
[01:03:49] Speaker E: I, I remember going down when it was really cold because I just remember, like, all these blankets being put on top of me and I had to wear newspapers in my shoes and, you know, like, you know, and like those Wonder Bread bags around my, you know, all that on my feet and everything. But I don't remember, like, going down there when it was, you know, when it was that kind of lake effect snow.
[01:04:15] Speaker A: That's where I was kind of coming. I was like, I think you remember that as a kid, like, putting the newspapers in your shoes.
[01:04:20] Speaker B: And listen, the experience. The experience that I came from is I actually didn't. I went to a colder game, but mine wasn't terrible. My brother went to a snow game, a Buffalo Bills game with my mom, and he was begging her to leave. By halftime, he was like, I don't want to be here. So just saying, like, I don't know. I don't know if it's good for kids. I don't know.
Who's to say? But no. So, onto the football side of things here, you know, what are your thoughts about this season so far? Obviously, we all know that the season hasn't gone the way that we all envisioned, but are there any takeaways you have? Just as. Whether it's positive, negative, whatever the case may be as we finish out this year and going into next year, do you have any thoughts on the Cleveland Browns?
[01:05:03] Speaker E: You know, it just seems like we have so much talent on that. On that team. Right. There's so many individual players that are just so talented in the game, and it just feels clunky. Right. And it's not even. Always the same clunkiness. You can't just keep pinning it on one person and saying, you know, I think, you know, you listen to anybody. I think we've tried to fire everybody 10 times over, every single. Every single game. But that's not even. That's not even it. You know, you look at the past couple of games, and I think. I think, you know, Jamis has done something with the team to make them a little bit more connected and less clunky.
And I really, I see, you know, if maybe this is the rebuilding year and we're watching it happen in front of our eyes because it didn't happen at, you know, it didn't happen at, you know, at training camps or anything like that. Maybe we're watching them gel right now in real time.
They can. They've showed us that they can play really good football.
[01:06:08] Speaker B: Yeah. And I think that's been the most frustrating thing for us is especially. And I know we've. We've talked at length about it, so I won't take over this whole segment with. With this again, but just the fact that the whole first part of the season, we were told that desean Watson gives us the best chance to win. And then you see a quarterback like Jameis come out and throw over 500 yards, you're like, well, really.
[01:06:28] Speaker A: Because to Patty's point, I mean, this team looks like an entirely different football team under Jameis. I mean, they look like, A, they're having fun, and B, they're. They're playing for him and for this team. Again, just a whole, whole. Just sea change in the way this team looks every week.
[01:06:44] Speaker E: Yeah. I mean, Judy is doing fantastic. You know, I still think Chubbs has to. He still is working on getting to his, you know, full strength, but he's getting better.
You know, the line needs to create more routes for him, but that's. That's that's an offense kind that issue in general.
[01:07:06] Speaker B: Yep. No, and, and yeah, I mean there's still yet to be seen if he even can get back to that. I mean, you talked about it this week. Kenny is, is. The reality is, unfortunately it's an unfortunate reality, but the reality is he's had two major reconstructive surgeries to the same knee and now he's approaching 30 and it's like you start to wonder if he could ever get back there. We all love Nick Chubb. He's my favorite Cleveland Brown that ever put on the uniform. But I mean that's, that's a tough thing to do.
[01:07:34] Speaker A: We'd like to think if anybody could do it, Nick Chubb can.
[01:07:36] Speaker B: Right.
[01:07:37] Speaker A: But yeah, I mean it's, it's yet to be seen. So.
[01:07:40] Speaker B: Yeah, and so, so, I mean, all good, you know, all valid points for this year's team and kind of what's been going on. What are your thoughts on the game coming up against the Steelers this weekend?
[01:07:52] Speaker E: Well, you know, I really hope that Jameis is continuing to pray for being delivered from his pick sixes because if you look at, if you, if you look at, like if you look at the statistics from, from the past couple of games, if you, if you don't know about the pick Sixes and that final fourth quarter interception, you would, you would be surprised that we didn't win.
We're putting up really good yards. We're doing, we're, our stats are better than some of the stats from the Steelers. We have to have a better running game and I think we have to get better at third down conversions. That, that seems to be our Achilles heel. If we can't get past that, that third down, it really, it, it really sets us back. We, we just need to get those conversions in.
[01:08:46] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. I mean sustaining drives is like key to everything and when he can't, it hurts.
[01:08:51] Speaker A: I would even say even with this pick Sixes and that, that stat lineup, I mean I, it, the game was incredible. I mean there were 500 yards and four touchdowns. I mean I'm, I still am scratching my head. I mean, knowing he threw the pick Sixes, I mean, played phenomenal in those couple of throws. So.
[01:09:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
And so I mean, all that being said, what's, what's your score prediction? And don't try and say you don't give score predictions. We don't accept that.
So you got to give us a score prediction for the game. Game this week.
[01:09:19] Speaker E: Great.
Browns 21, Steelers 18. It's going to Be close.
[01:09:25] Speaker B: Like, you think we sweep the Steelers this year?
[01:09:28] Speaker E: Well, listen, isn't it. We, like. We have to do it sometime. Why not this year?
[01:09:32] Speaker B: That's true. That's true. That's true. Well, I mean, I don't know if we agree with you, but I like where your head's at. I like. I like the optimism.
[01:09:40] Speaker A: I'd love to see him sweep them.
[01:09:43] Speaker E: Brown's backer president. I think I'm contractually obligated.
[01:09:46] Speaker B: You're not. We had one. We had one pick against Browns once, and I think he was right.
[01:09:52] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:09:52] Speaker E: So I tell my. I tell my members that I have unrealistic optimism, and I will always be in favor of the Browns, and they can always argue against our. You know, argue with me about it.
[01:10:03] Speaker B: I'll be honest with you. You're a Brownsbacker's president. You. You kind of have to have unrealistic.
[01:10:08] Speaker A: I think as Browns fans, we have.
[01:10:10] Speaker B: Unrealistic, unrealistic optimism every year. Every single year.
[01:10:14] Speaker A: But.
[01:10:14] Speaker B: But listen, Patty Joe, it's been awesome talking to you. We really appreciate it. We appreciate your time, and we hope to get up there to Strongsville for one of your watch parties and meet you soon.
[01:10:25] Speaker E: That'd be fantastic. I'd love to have you up there.
[01:10:28] Speaker B: All right. Thanks for being on.
[01:10:29] Speaker E: Thank you.
We're the Strongsville Brownsbackers, and you're listening to the Burning River Sportscast. Go Browns.
[01:10:49] Speaker B: All right. Good time. Talking to Patty Jo, huh?
[01:10:51] Speaker A: Patty Joe is a real g. A real dog.
[01:10:55] Speaker B: I still don't know. She told me it's okay to call her Patty. I. I still don't know. Patty Joe. Patty. Her Name's Patty Joe.
[01:11:01] Speaker A: P.A.
[01:11:02] Speaker B: T. P.J. i'm going to call her P.J.
[01:11:04] Speaker A: From now on.
[01:11:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Strongville Brownsbackers, though, doing good things up there. It's impressive that they're up to. What did you say? 161 members in just.
[01:11:12] Speaker A: Just over a year, basically their first year.
Yeah. It'll be interesting to see them grow. And they sound like they have a lot of. Had good luck getting stuff together for charities already, too, so. That's awesome.
This was another one that did the cat food and the dog food drive. So we just had the dog food drive. We talked about last week kind of being the first time we'd heard that, so we're behind that on this site.
[01:11:31] Speaker B: I usually have our food drive started by now. I don't know why I don't.
[01:11:34] Speaker A: But, yeah, you better get on that.
[01:11:36] Speaker B: Yeah, I guess I'll start that this week. So keep an eye out for it. But with that, let's take a quick revenue break and then we're going to get back here and talk about the Week 14 matchup with the Steelers.
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All right, guys, before we get into the Week 14 preview, it's time for some document. Dog Talk.
[01:12:43] Speaker A: Powered by Riverside fm.
[01:12:50] Speaker B: Okay, guys, before we go any further in the show, I got a really special guest today. You know who it is? You want to know who it is?
[01:12:56] Speaker A: Who is it?
[01:12:57] Speaker B: So this, this interview is going to be part of the Dog Talk interview series, right? It's, you know, we originally it was planned out for like personalities media wise, but we expanded it to super fan. Well, I've got, I've got a super fan for you today.
Today we have Brown, super fan and friend of the show, the macho fan.
[01:13:15] Speaker A: Macho fan.
[01:13:23] Speaker B: How you feeling today?
[01:13:26] Speaker D: Feel better after a win, but still living.
[01:13:31] Speaker B: Yeah, we all feel better after a win. I know it's, I know it's been a tough slow, but before we get into the football side of things, tell us your story. How did you become the macho fan?
[01:13:41] Speaker D: Oh, it's a tall tale to tell. But let me tell you what it stored was that it was just doing my own thing, just coming up with some ideas. When I did it, didn't have a little Halloween party then. Yeah, people are like, wow, we really did a good job with that. So let's take it next level like we always. I was like, you know what, where's Mo? Take the two entities and have the world's collide. Yeah, have them collide in Cleveland. Yeah. So when that happened, oh boy, here it starts coming. Then let's go. Start over here and go over there. Now we're down to business. Now we're down to the nitty gritty of being a macho fan from here on out. And I'm representing hope, hopefully proudly for all the fans out there and for all the Cleveland Browns let's go. Yeah.
[01:14:37] Speaker B: Man, that is. You're right. That is. That is the tall tale.
[01:14:42] Speaker D: That's only just a summary.
[01:14:45] Speaker B: We. We appreciate it. It is. I mean, it's fantastic seeing you out there on game day. I know I was at a game earlier this year, and you were. I think I showed you on the jumbotron before a game, getting the crowds pumped up. How's. How's that being like you get to be put on the big screen every week?
[01:15:01] Speaker D: Well, let me tell you, it's been an honor. Honor and a privilege. And when they actually reached out and wanted me to be a part of that ceremonial coming out of the tunnel situation, I was like, yeah, let's go with it. And we'll bang that drum as loud and proud as I could. And that's what I do every single time that they ask me to do it. Not every. Every week. Every single Sunday. Just beating away, and the beat goes in and the beat goes on. Yeah. And that's exactly why I'm so proud to be a Browns fan. Them asking me to represent the rest of that crowd. Yeah.
[01:15:42] Speaker B: Man, I can see why they picked you.
[01:15:46] Speaker A: So, so, so. So are you a big wrestling fan? Outside of being Cleveland Brown superfan, What's wrestling?
[01:15:53] Speaker D: No, no. A brigand loved wrestling. I mean, who didn't? I think those are two elements that everybody likes about the sport of football. It allows a lot of people to go in head to head. We do a little bit better than the xfl, I want. I might add. But still, I just want to say that that's what I always grew up with. The pageantry, the fighting, the storylines, everything that goes along with it. Just the same way it always goes with the Cleveland Browns. It's a soap opera every week. You don't know what you're gonna get, but trust me, it's enticing, it's exciting. It's entertainment, if that's it. To say the least.
[01:16:35] Speaker B: Yeah, I. I could just sit here and listen to this all day. I'll be honest with you. Like, I love the. The enthusiasm, especially. Especially in. In. In the face of the disappointing season that we're having. Not to bring everything down with the energy you're bringing here, but it has been a tough season. So let's get over to the football side of things.
You know, is excited as everybody was for the Browns this season, as high as expectations were, to be where we're at now is tough. How do you. How do you keep on keeping on every single week?
[01:17:07] Speaker D: Well, always got to believe it's much. It's much more than just wins and losses. It's always about pride. It's all about the orange and brown in this town. But I can tell you this. This is only disappointing, is because we put our hearts and souls into every single game, but we still show up. And that is why we are never going to be disappointed. We're going to be disappointed without that W, but we're never going to be disappointed. And always making sure that is the number one thing we're looking forward to every single week during an NFL season. So I'm damn proud to be a Cleveland Brown. Yeah.
[01:17:45] Speaker B: It just reminds me of Jameis Winston.
[01:17:47] Speaker A: I'm really. I'm ready.
[01:17:48] Speaker B: This. I mean, obviously you were around with Cleveland before Jameis Winston was, but this, like, you know, his pregame speeches and those types of things is the same vibes. So, I mean, are you a big fan of Jameis Winston, especially as he's bringing the same energy each week?
[01:18:02] Speaker D: Absolutely. That's what we need. We need leadership. We need someone to rally everyone around. We need to have that because if anything, we are a motivational kind of team. We're lights out, not dogs rolling over. We're ones that are gonna be bringing the fight to the fight. And that is exactly what Jameis brings to this group. Brings them to another level, something that we've been missing all season. And that's exactly why we need a roll with this. Can't wait for Sunday. Bring on the Steelers.
[01:18:37] Speaker B: Hell, yes. I'm. I'm ready. I am ready.
[01:18:40] Speaker A: It's. Speaking of the Steelers, some other great rivalries in. In sport. I don't know. Jake the Snake Roberts, also a warrior. Whose ass would you rather kick?
[01:18:50] Speaker D: Hulk Hogan. For sure.
[01:18:54] Speaker B: Good answer. Good answer. And so, I mean, obviously the Steelers are this. This weekend. What are your game predictions for the game against the Steelers?
[01:19:02] Speaker D: You know what my prediction is that we're gonna bring the same energy we did for the past couple weeks. Might as well. Let's go and play. Spoiler. Why don't we. We always said since the beginning of time, if we're gonna have a losing season, might as well be two wins only, which is against Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh. So let's do it for the first time that we've seen in all the time that we've been the Browns fan since 99, at least. Young kids.
[01:19:31] Speaker B: Absolutely. And with that, I mean, just to build off of not only this week, but the rest of the season, like, what do you think is going to happen the rest of the season. Do you see more. More wins in our future? Do you see. Do you see the Browns walking out of here a little bit better than what three and nine is right now?
[01:19:45] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. No, I totally believe that. I don't believe we have every chance of winning every single game going into it. And that's the reason, because we have the eight. We got a little more motivation. We got a little bit more. How should you say, moxie. We got a little bit more fandom coming back into it, getting rejuvenation, and that's what we need. We need to have a little more belief, just like we do all the time. And doesn't matter if we're going to be going to the playoffs or not. Still believe. I always say mathematically, and I was horrible at math, but let me tell you, mathematically, we're still in it.
[01:20:25] Speaker B: Yes. Yes, we are. I think for at least this, for.
[01:20:28] Speaker A: The wild card, for.
[01:20:29] Speaker B: Yeah, for right now. Yeah.
Yes, yes, yes.
[01:20:35] Speaker A: That's the ones we're in.
[01:20:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:20:36] Speaker A: We were just saying it would be nice to be Pittsburgh twice and Baltimore twice this season. That would be.
[01:20:41] Speaker B: Literally won four games, and those were.
[01:20:42] Speaker D: The only disappointing season. So I just say, prediction, we're going to keep it close, but it's going to be a. Another shootout. For some odd reason, it might not snow like it did on Thursday night, but let me tell you, we're going to be bringing nothing but heat.
[01:20:57] Speaker B: I like that. Let's switch gears a little bit here, though. We love heat on this show, by the way. Yeah.
[01:21:02] Speaker A: Bernie River.
[01:21:02] Speaker B: Yeah, Billy.
Yeah.
But let's switch gears here just a little bit. I asked, actually, since you're a super fan and you're at just about every game on Sundays, what are your thoughts about the new. The potential new dome versus the current stadium?
[01:21:18] Speaker D: You know what, no matter what, I want everyone to actually enjoy themselves. And trust me, anybody that said they wanted a dome, they went into that stadium on Thursday night and they turned that frown upside down, and it was because we were in the elements. They brought football back to football, and that's why I loved having a dome. Keep us in the lake. Let's go.
[01:21:42] Speaker B: And then the future, the future of the team here, where do you see the Browns heading?
Obviously, you know, this is past this season. Where do you see them heading next season and into the future here?
[01:21:52] Speaker D: Well, I gotta tell you, it's gonna be a little dicey, a little shaky, a little mismanagement of what we can do to make sure that we can get everything in order. So I Can tell you this much. It's gonna be a little bit difficult with everything going on, but everyone knows that. But we gotta stay positive and we gotta believe in what we have within a top office. They've actually got themselves in this situation. We gotta figure let them figure it out and we're gonna let them ride it all the way through to go back to believing just the super old predictions that we've had for the past how many years. So, yeah, little bit rocky, not sure exactly, but that's Cleveland, baby. Yeah.
[01:22:30] Speaker A: Kenny, Jeff, I'm ready to snap into a slim Jim.
[01:22:33] Speaker D: Yeah, I got a couple.
Sorry, Fresh.
[01:22:42] Speaker A: How long did it take you to master the enunciations and just the vocal artwork that goes on here?
[01:22:48] Speaker D: Well, let me just tell you it's a little more than a couple years, but not so sure.
I don't know. It took me a while to get this voice down, but once I did, I went completely rogue. Couldn't talk by myself anymore. I just started actually changing my name.
They're like, what's your last name? I'm like, it's fan. What's your first?
Don't. Don't ask questions they want the answers to.
[01:23:15] Speaker A: And so when you show up on game, dammit. Do you. Do you ever get in. I guess you get into groups with some of the other super fans, whether Brown.
[01:23:22] Speaker B: Yeah, we've had. We've had Pumpkinhead and we've had brownstronaut on here. We've had Captain Webber or we talked to Captain Weber on our trip with True fan. But when we asked Brownstone, he wasn't really forthcoming about it. I said, do you guys get together? Do you guys have like parties?
[01:23:39] Speaker A: Super fan parties?
[01:23:40] Speaker B: Like what do you guys do?
[01:23:42] Speaker D: Yeah, we have a meeting once a week. I'm just joking.
No, what it is is that one. I don't consider myself a super fan. I can't consider myself as a glorified fan, somebody that dresses up and does everything in the orange and brown. All of us are all super fans because we still pay the money. We still put ourselves in those seats every Sunday and we cheer them on no matter what. Those are super fans. But that being said, I want to say that we don't really get together that often. Sometimes here and there and everywhere else. But you know what? It doesn't matter because we're all trying to do our part. We're trying to represent every single part of that stadium and we don't want to see no more terrible thousand that stadium, let me tell you that much. And they're going to take care of each section of where we're at, and I'm proud of everybody in that section where the macho fin sets. Yeah.
[01:24:31] Speaker B: Hell, yes. When you see a terrible towel in Brown stadium, do you take it and.
[01:24:35] Speaker A: Rip it with, like, a phone book?
[01:24:38] Speaker D: I don't do that that much. Sometimes it's too cold for me to even put my hands on anything. So.
But I'll tell you this much. I don't do anything to cause any controversy. I just say, good luck, enjoy the game, and hopefully become a victorious every week. But trust me, behind the scenes, like we are right now, I don't care who sees this. We're going to be.
Yeah.
[01:25:00] Speaker B: I love it. I love it. And if there's one thing that macho fan has. Has always been synonymous with, macho fan is sportsmanship. So not necessarily trying to turn the tanks.
I like that. I like that.
[01:25:18] Speaker A: Like, when you. When you got into this thing, did you ever imagine you'd kind of be the, like, level, like, local celebrity that you've become here with this thing?
[01:25:26] Speaker D: Not even close.
Had no idea. All it was doing was like, hey, I'm just gonna sit here, pretend like nobody's gonna see me, and then, sure enough, here it comes. I feel bad for half the people around me. I mean, I got my Abraham Lincoln's high captain. They also got flamingo feathers all over the place, and nobody even knows what the heck is going on. I can tell you this. Watch. Everyone's having a good time. Sometimes when it's too wet, feels like a car wash going through my tassels. But honestly, not really understand how I even got here. But I'm very blessed and very honored and very, very happy that where I'm at. But I gotta tell you, I would love to be more happy if we can, in the playoff month for sure.
[01:26:14] Speaker A: Final question for me. Is there a Miss Elizabeth to go along with the macho fan, or is there plans to have what you talk about Elizabeth in the future?
[01:26:25] Speaker D: The answer to the question, no, but there are.
Don't talk about my wife.
[01:26:38] Speaker B: Well, listen, Mr. Fan, it has been great, great talking to you. We really appreciate you being on the show. This is probably the most entertaining segment we've ever done. So just keep being you. Keep doing what you do and go Browns. That's all I can say.
[01:26:56] Speaker D: Yeah. No, Go Browns. Go Browns. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Let's go.
Every week. Never surrender.
[01:27:07] Speaker B: No, this is. I just. I'm ready. I'm ready to walk. I'm Ready. I. I wish I was on the field. It's Wednesday.
[01:27:13] Speaker D: Let's go.
[01:27:15] Speaker B: Yeah, just. Just to sign us off here, macho fan, can you do one quick shoot for the Browns?
[01:27:21] Speaker D: All right. Time to take us to the next level. That's what I've been saying all season. That's right. We gotta go into Pittsburgh. We're gonna take their terrible tells. We'll toss it back through them. Just like we're gonna tell the refs quit throwing those flags at us, because trust me, there ain't gonna be no penalties, there ain't gonna be no dirtiness. We're gonna just be nothing but touchdown city, baby. And that comes from Jameis Winston and Nicholas Chopp. Ian, Jared, Judy, how about some sacks, huh? Let's go for that. Come on, let's break the record.
I can't wait for someday. Let me do ya.
One, two, three. Let's go, Browns.
[01:28:05] Speaker B: I love it.
[01:28:06] Speaker A: Perfect.
[01:28:07] Speaker B: I love it. Listen, once again, it's been great having you. We really appreciate it, Macho fan. I'm sure we'll be seeing you soon.
[01:28:15] Speaker D: Thank you, guys, so much. Appreciate it. Let's go, Browns.
Oh, yeah. Macho fan here on the Burning River Sports.
Oh, yeah. Gold brim.
[01:28:35] Speaker B: Guys. We just had macho fan on the show. That was. That was incredible.
[01:28:40] Speaker A: Without a doubt, the most entertaining interview we've ever done on the show.
[01:28:43] Speaker B: Yeah. What a. What a.
I just like that.
[01:28:46] Speaker A: He's absolute character.
[01:28:48] Speaker B: Absolutely character. And he's just in one. One, he's in character the whole time. Two, phenomenal job with the character. And three, the fact that he's so passionate about the Browns. It's like, I tried to trip him up a couple times and say, like, you tell me what you think. He's like, I love the Browns. Like, it's.
[01:29:06] Speaker A: I'm scared because I was threatened after I brought up Miss Elizabeth.
[01:29:10] Speaker B: Well, you were talking about his wife. You son of a.
[01:29:12] Speaker C: Shouldn't do that.
[01:29:13] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a bad job out of you.
[01:29:15] Speaker A: That's scary.
[01:29:15] Speaker B: He almost started to give you some information, and then he said, wait a second. He thought better of it.
[01:29:20] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, the absolute time and attention to detail to craft that Persona and mimic, I mean, Randy Savage to a te.
[01:29:31] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, it was great. It's phenomenal.
[01:29:34] Speaker A: Awesome. Awesome job. Awesome work.
[01:29:35] Speaker B: Somebody needs to get this guy a contract. Is Hollywood where's.
[01:29:38] Speaker A: He needs his own TV show.
[01:29:40] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree. Is there a biopic coming out about Randy Savage that he could be in?
[01:29:45] Speaker A: Is there a podcast? Tiring Talent.
[01:29:48] Speaker B: Oh, is it us?
[01:29:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:29:49] Speaker B: Yeah, maybe. Okay, okay. But with that, let's get to the Week 14 preview brought to you by True Fan Travel.
All right, it's time for the Week 14 preview.
This week we've got the Pittsburgh Steelers and it is in Pittsburgh this time. Kenny, it's your time to shine.
[01:30:16] Speaker A: Steelers Cliff notes.
[01:30:18] Speaker B: It's time for Kenny's cliff notes.
[01:30:27] Speaker A: Yes, it's just time for that.
Sorry, my voice.
[01:30:33] Speaker B: I just love every time this graphic comes up because it's just your teeny little head.
[01:30:36] Speaker A: My voice is still just a little weird from being so sick over the last week.
Steelers cliff notes. We just saw this team two weeks ago and everyone surprised. The Browns pulled out, pulled out the snowy victory.
Russell played pretty well in the snow and expect him to play better this week in better conditions.
[01:30:56] Speaker B: He might have played well, but he didn't tussle.
[01:30:58] Speaker A: He didn't tussle. I expect him to tussle. This week though. Jalen Warren and Najee Harris were essentially a non factor, combining for less than a hundred yards. George Pickens is a good receiver, but he is a giant baby and allowed himself to be taken out of the final play of the game. Fighting with our defensive back.
Look, this defense is still really good and I would expect we're going to see a better effort out of the entire unit, especially TJ Watt who went 5 for 5 on high fives and that was about all he did.
[01:31:23] Speaker B: Good job, buddy.
[01:31:23] Speaker A: In the snow.
So this week I think because he was just a no show the first time around, like he's going to to have a fire lit under him. I love the fact that this T.J. watt Miles Garrett rivalry is finally getting some steam around it.
[01:31:37] Speaker B: But it's funny because for the longest time they didn't want to play into it and now it's like Miles finally just accepted. He's like they were always kind of.
[01:31:44] Speaker A: Like we don't play each other and.
[01:31:45] Speaker B: It took TJ Watt to be a baby about defensive player of the year is really where it started and Myles Garrett was like the Jordan, the Jordan meme and I took offense to that.
[01:31:55] Speaker A: So anyway, I do think because he was so ineffective in the snow that T.J. watts going to be coming out with burning balls this week.
But really, I mean, look, we just covered a lot of this team in the last two weeks, so I'm not going to spend a lot of time here. They do have a kicker in Chris Boswell who prefers making kicks, so advantage them. Bottom line is the rivalry and the Browns Team has life now that Jameis Winston is the quarterback. But as we know, riding with James can be a roller coaster. When he's good, he's great, but he's still praying to be delivered from pick sixes. So while I'm not here to count anyone out this time, the Steelers are the better team on paper, but the Browns have proven they can hang with this squad. I think this just comes down to simply who wants it more and who fights harder to make plays during this game. Go Browns.
[01:32:42] Speaker B: I like how every week you just sound like more and more, like, I don't know what the fuck I'm supposed to say here.
[01:32:48] Speaker A: Like, we're the Browns, we just did the Steelers two weeks ago, so that's fair. Not going to go through every position group again and just tell you the same thing.
[01:32:56] Speaker B: All right? But you know what it is time for?
[01:32:59] Speaker A: Is it time for Ronnie Jams match? Doesn't matter.
[01:33:09] Speaker B: All right. This week in Ronnie James matchups that matter, I bet you can't guess how many matchups I have for you.
[01:33:14] Speaker A: Is it at least two?
[01:33:15] Speaker B: It's two.
[01:33:15] Speaker A: Nice.
[01:33:16] Speaker B: So. So matchup number one, the Browns offensive line versus T.J. watt. You just talked about the rivalry and how it's kind of finally starting to get some. Some. Some airtime here and people are talking about it more and more and even the players themselves are playing into it. So he's T.J. watt. As the bottom line is he's the best player on their defense, easily. It's not even close. And now they've got Highsmith back this week, which should put even more pressure on the offense line.
So I'm not saying you stop TJ Watt, although he did only go 5 for 5 on high fives last time we played him. That is rare. Like it's really hard to just completely stop him. We need to do our best to at least keep him at bay.
But again, like you said, you know, he'll be gunning for big plays because he threw out a goose egg last time he played the Browns. So.
And on top of that, Miles Garrett came out after the game and basically said, yeah, I'm better than you. Fuck you. So that that should light a fire. And so my other matchup that matters Is Miles Garrett vs. The Steelers offensive line. For all the same reasons I just said for all the same reasons that you mentioned, these players both think that they are the best pass rusher in football. And I think they both have legitimate claims. Like you could argue one way or the other. I know you could use Stats more in a favor TJ Watt, you could use who wins their matchup more and it would favor Miles Garrett. He actually is closing the gap, it seems like as far as their sack numbers and stuff. But.
But yeah, they both think they're the best pass rushers, so I just think that they're going to be going at it. I think that this is kind of a pin your ears back game for both of them just to say like, you know, kind of normal assignments be damned. I'm. I want sacks today. And that's what they're going to do. They're going to want to prove that they're the best passion rusher in the game. And so it's going to be hard to contain either one of these guys.
So yeah, in, in summary here, Steelers are 9 and 3 coming off a win against the Bengals, a game where their, their offense finally came alive and they were able to prove that they can indeed win in a shootout if necessary. But on defense here, they ranked sixth overall, fourth on third down, fourth against the rush. Six best scoring defense there's, they are 16th and the red zone, which is a little bit of a weakness, but they're still, that's still middle of the pack. And then 19th against the pass, which is their weakest point on defense. So those are the two areas you got to attack them is in the, when you get in the red zone, you have to come away with touchdowns and you're probably going to have to attack them through the air. Luckily for us, James Winston just threw for 497 yards, so that's good. But on offense, they rank middle of the pack. Most statistical categories, terrible, terrible. In the red zone though, they're ranking the bottom five, might even be bottom three in red zone offense.
On the flip side though, they have a fantastic kicker and because of that, even when they get in the red zone, they usually come away with a field goal and that helps to keep them in the top half, top 10 of the league actually, in scoring offense. So then The Browns here, 3 and 9 record coming off another loss, this time to the Broncos. This was one of the worst feeling losses I can remember. And the Cowboys game was only 13 weeks ago. The Giants game was 11 weeks ago. The Raiders game was 10 weeks ago. The Commanders game was nine weeks ago. The Eagles game was eight weeks ago. The Bengals game was seven weeks ago. The Chargers game was five weeks ago, and the Saints game was three weeks ago. So again, it just feels really, really bad.
A lot of these games were winnable. We didn't win them, though. We lost them all.
And so the Brown's offense on the season, they're below average. They've been much better since James Winston came in. Obviously, they just lit up the Broncos this past week, who were a top five defense. So that gives me some encouragement. However, they're also still terrible in their rushing attack. So you can't run the ball, you can't play defense, and you don't lose the turnover battle. You lose. So speaking speaking of their defense, wildly average this season, coming into last week's game, the Browns were right in the middle of the pack and pretty much everything. Then they gave up 300 yards to Bo Nicks and 40 plus points. So I'm pretty sure they're probably in the bottom 10 of just about everything now. So.
Yeah, the other thing, we're in Pittsburgh. Not good.
[01:37:32] Speaker A: Advantage them.
[01:37:33] Speaker B: Not good. But do you know what that takes.
[01:37:35] Speaker A: Us to bone Man's skeleton key to victory. History.
[01:37:41] Speaker B: I like it.
[01:37:47] Speaker C: Let me give you guys a number.
[01:37:48] Speaker B: I want to hear it. All right.
[01:37:49] Speaker C: It's just 21. Okay, 21.
Average number of points scored in each of the Steelers three losses.
So if we can hold them under 21 points, we should be able to sweep the Steelers this year. It's that easy.
[01:38:02] Speaker B: That's it. That's it.
[01:38:03] Speaker C: That's it.
[01:38:03] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:38:04] Speaker B: You make it sound so simple.
[01:38:05] Speaker C: It is.
[01:38:06] Speaker A: Oh, it is. That would require some good defense.
[01:38:08] Speaker C: Yeah. 21 points. Simple, good defense.
[01:38:10] Speaker B: I didn't say it was going to be easy.
[01:38:11] Speaker A: Simple, not easy.
[01:38:12] Speaker C: Let's bring back last year's defense. Let's do it.
[01:38:14] Speaker B: I'm in.
[01:38:15] Speaker A: I'm in.
[01:38:15] Speaker B: I'm in. I'm in.
[01:38:16] Speaker C: They're capable of doing it.
There'll be a fire. Fire under their high knees if Miles.
[01:38:22] Speaker A: Plays like he did the first time around.
[01:38:24] Speaker C: Russell got smashed that first game. Russell did not touch so many of our Browns players.
[01:38:29] Speaker B: Remember the last play of the game when he threw that nail down, Blown up.
[01:38:34] Speaker A: He did not. Yeah.
[01:38:35] Speaker C: Let's do that again. Let's do that again.
[01:38:36] Speaker B: I agree. I agree. Wow, these. These are good points here.
[01:38:38] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:38:39] Speaker C: I wouldn't even mind seeing helmet swing this game. I would love to see that.
[01:38:41] Speaker B: I'm in.
[01:38:42] Speaker A: I mean, again, Miles, good for the rivalry.
[01:38:44] Speaker B: This is what we were talking about with the flag planning. Like. Yeah, at the time, it was bad for Miles Garrett, but now it's like it's just a classic moment in the rivalry. Kenny, you got betting info for US dealers?
[01:38:54] Speaker A: Minus six and a half over. Under 43 and a half. Advantage Steelers.
[01:38:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm not going to comment like I usually do and tell people which way to bet because we don't do that here.
[01:39:03] Speaker A: No, we don't do it here.
[01:39:04] Speaker B: Players to watch. Kenny, you go first.
[01:39:09] Speaker A: I know on this team isn't worth spending four hours on a Sunday watching. Stick with us for two hours each Thursday and we'll bring you everything you need to know, all the news you can use to keep up with this miserable lot.
[01:39:18] Speaker B: Is there ever going to be a player to watch from you?
[01:39:22] Speaker A: Let's watch Dustin Hopkins this week, see if he makes a field goal.
[01:39:25] Speaker B: I'm in. Dustin Hopkins is your guy.
[01:39:26] Speaker C: Yeah. That's good, Bone.
[01:39:27] Speaker B: Who's your player to watch?
[01:39:30] Speaker C: I'll go. I'll go with Miles Garrett.
[01:39:33] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:39:33] Speaker C: Kind of the point you guys were talking about earlier, the just what happened after last game, there's going to be a fire under him and tj so.
[01:39:40] Speaker B: The fact that he followed it up with a goose egg against Denver is just like, really disheartening.
[01:39:45] Speaker C: But I kind of think the whole team just going to be. I mean, it's the Steeler game, so everybody's me fired up, but I think it's going to be extra this week just because the talk afterwards.
[01:39:53] Speaker B: You think they embrace the whole spoiler thing now? I mean, if we can't have a winning season, we can. Exactly.
[01:39:58] Speaker C: If there's one game, you know, to really just try to make the season feel okay, it would be, you know, it'd be this one after the first, you know, beating Steelers first time. But fair.
[01:40:08] Speaker B: Fair. My player to watch this week is Elijah Moore. Kind of lost in the shuffle last game with the offensive explosion that we had, especially in the passing game.
[01:40:17] Speaker A: It was part of it.
[01:40:18] Speaker B: Yeah, we. We talked about a little bit on the live show Monday after the game, but we didn't talk about it a lot.
He did have a hundred yards receiving.
[01:40:26] Speaker A: Eight catches for 111 yards or something.
[01:40:27] Speaker B: Yeah. So, I mean, it was a decent. A pretty decent game. Besides letting the guy get up and walk into the end zone. It was a good game out of Elijah Moore. So I'm hoping. I'm hoping that him and James have kind of unlocked something here and we get more of that skeleton. Skeleton key.
I don't think that's it. A 21 is a skeleton key.
[01:40:46] Speaker A: Oh, you said unlock.
[01:40:47] Speaker B: No. Oh, sorry.
But yeah. So Elijah Moore for me now it's time to get gassed up.
Turn it up, Turn it up.
[01:41:03] Speaker A: Turn it up now.
[01:41:05] Speaker B: All right, guys, it's that time. Again, anything getting you gassed up right now?
[01:41:08] Speaker A: What time.
[01:41:09] Speaker B: Is there anything in you guys gassed up?
[01:41:10] Speaker A: What time is it?
[01:41:11] Speaker C: Yeah. What isn't getting me gassed up?
[01:41:13] Speaker B: We're gonna start with Bone, because I gotta hear this.
What are you gassed up about, Bone?
[01:41:17] Speaker A: How many kids got kicked out of school this week?
[01:41:19] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, no, I was actually.
[01:41:21] Speaker B: I.
[01:41:21] Speaker C: It took me a while to think of one, so not much.
[01:41:23] Speaker B: You must have been having. Having a good week.
[01:41:25] Speaker C: Yeah, I was being a little dramatic there, but I was. I was going back to the game on Monday night, and I was thinking about the commentators, in particular, Mr. Troy Aikman.
He. Out of nowhere, he's just like, I could beat Jameis Winston in a race. Did you guys. You guys remember that on the commentary? He goes. He goes. He goes. James Hill, he probably runs a 5 flat, and he goes, I could beat him in a race.
Play happens. And then Joe Bach, like, doubles back and he's like. So do you mean like during your. Your heyday, like, when you were playing, or do you mean now? And then Troy Aikman, like, took a step back. He's like, well, I tore my hamstring this year. And you. Yeah, he was like, definitely in my heyday, you know, definitely my heyday.
He's like. He kind of took a step back on it, like, currently, but he was basically saying, like, now he would. He would beat Jamison a race.
[01:42:16] Speaker B: I was just like, it just reminds me of the commercial where the guy are like, we could still play.
[01:42:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:42:20] Speaker B: And then they dream about it and they're like, sleeping on the bench. Sleeping on the bench.
[01:42:23] Speaker C: It came out of nowhere. I felt in the commentary, I was like, that was kind of unnecessary. But.
[01:42:28] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, one, it's unnecessary.
[01:42:30] Speaker C: I want to call out Troy Aikman, but Joe Buck did a good job of kind of like, I usually own it.
[01:42:34] Speaker B: Yeah, I usually hate Joe Buck, but I love the fact that he just instantly called him out. He's like, wait, wait a second.
[01:42:39] Speaker A: That's funny.
[01:42:40] Speaker C: Wait, that's funny. Did you guys catch it?
[01:42:41] Speaker B: I did. I. I did hear it. I. That's why I laughed so hard when he brought it up, because I was like. I didn't know if anybody else really heard that.
[01:42:47] Speaker A: I heard Troy. Yeah. Say the one that stuck with me was. He was like, well, they said DeSean Watson was the best quarterback on the team all year long, but I guess James is doing too. Not true.
[01:42:57] Speaker C: I loved how he talked about.
[01:42:59] Speaker B: Yeah, he went hard on him. He actually. He said, no, he didn't get hard on him. He went hard on.
But he.
[01:43:06] Speaker A: He told him he got hard on him.
[01:43:07] Speaker B: He laid out the whole thing. He said. He said, guys like you've been saying all year that Deshaun Watson gives you your best chance to win. Clearly that's not the case.
[01:43:15] Speaker C: It was just great hearing it from a national guy. Yeah, it was fantastic.
[01:43:18] Speaker B: I agree, I agree.
[01:43:19] Speaker C: I guess both ways. I was like. I was like, well, screw you, Troy. But then when he was talking about Deshaun, I was like, all right. Yeah, he gets it. Finally, somebody saying it.
[01:43:27] Speaker B: I'm going to go with the first one. Troy eggman, you're like 75. Like, you can't. You can't beat anybody in a race.
[01:43:31] Speaker A: The range of Troy Eggman emotions.
[01:43:33] Speaker B: Kenny could beat him in a race. Troy Hickman.
Kenny, what's getting you fired up? Gassed up?
[01:43:39] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm gassed up. I saw a video this week.
[01:43:43] Speaker B: I see a lot of videos and pictures, too.
[01:43:47] Speaker A: The video. The premise of this video was essentially, why don't we dream about our phones when we sleep?
Or technology like TVs?
[01:44:00] Speaker B: Why are you fucking with me? It's already starting. I don't even know where this is going. But I just thought about it and it's true.
[01:44:07] Speaker A: Like, think about how integral your phone is to your daily life and how you like how little.
[01:44:11] Speaker B: Like, I have dreams where I need a phone badly and I don't have a phone.
[01:44:15] Speaker A: How little you dream of it.
And they kind of went on to make the assumption that, like, really all technology, TVs, laptops, like, all the things that we use on a daily basis, like, you really never see them in a dream. And why is that? And their whole point was essentially that we're living in a simulation.
And this was kind of like proof of this. But the reason I'm gassed up about this is not even because we might be living in a simulation, is because I googled this. And I'm one of the 2.3% of males who do dream about phones in their sleep.
Ask my wife. I'm on a conference call for work every night.
I have full out conference calls for like an hour straight where I'm like a project manager and I'm like, this has to get done. We got to make sure we got these notes over here for these guys. And my wife is always waking up. She's like, what are you doing? And I'm like, I was trying to get Terry to give me the invoices so I can make some freaking Purchase orders.
Oh, my God. So I'm like, don't just assume we don't all dream about phones, because I do.
[01:45:21] Speaker C: Yeah. And for the listener, this individual can thunder right here. Talks in his sleep all the time. The few times that I've been in the room with him at night, you know, as we've been adults.
[01:45:31] Speaker B: Tell the New Orleans story.
[01:45:33] Speaker C: I wake up in New Orleans in our. In our hotel room at, like, three in the morning, and I just hear, tunnels are meant to be crawled through. Is that what. Is that what it was?
[01:45:43] Speaker B: Holes were meant to be climbed in.
[01:45:44] Speaker C: Is that what it was or was. Tunnels are meant to be crawled in.
[01:45:46] Speaker A: Or holes are made to be climbed.
[01:45:48] Speaker C: All right, there we go. Holes are meant to be. Holes are meant to be. Yeah.
[01:45:51] Speaker B: Made to be climbed through. And we're like, what are you talking about? So, like, we. We actually woke him up. We're like, what are you talking about? And he's like, I was dreaming. There's a big hole in the wall up here. Like, right above my head. There was a big hole and Bone just climbed through it. And he went. And I said, well, yeah, holes are meant to be climbed through. Yeah.
[01:46:09] Speaker A: I have very vivid dreams, but most of the time they're conference calls for work.
[01:46:14] Speaker B: We didn't. We didn't get any conference calls in New Orleans.
[01:46:16] Speaker A: And I am in Webex or I'm on a cell phone and I am yelling at colleagues for no reason at all.
[01:46:26] Speaker B: What? I didn't know this about you. I knew you talked in your sleep, but I didn't realize you had conference calls. That's wild.
[01:46:31] Speaker A: Oh, so many conference calls.
[01:46:32] Speaker B: I'm not part of the 2.3%. When you said that, it shook me because I was like, no way. Like, why don't I dream about any technology?
[01:46:39] Speaker A: Yeah.
A little over 3% of females and a little over 2% of males dream about.
[01:46:45] Speaker C: Wow.
[01:46:45] Speaker B: That's. Why. Is that like an evolutionary thing? Like, in 100 years, is everybody going to dream about their phones?
[01:46:50] Speaker A: There's a whole lot of stuff about simulations out there. If you start Googling, it's a rabbit hole. You can go down. There's a whole thing.
[01:46:56] Speaker B: The white rabbit.
[01:46:56] Speaker A: There's a whole thing called.
[01:46:57] Speaker B: That's the whole thing in the Matrix. The white rabbit. Rabbit hole.
[01:46:59] Speaker A: There's a whole thing called threat, simulation, something or other. It's. It's. Yeah, it's the whole thing.
[01:47:06] Speaker B: Threat level midnight.
[01:47:07] Speaker A: Threat level midnight. Yeah.
[01:47:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Listen, guys. Golden face. It's that time of year again, so I'm Getting gassed up about snow drivers. You guys all know what I'm talking about. It's. We. We have the winter storm warnings tonight, you know, and there's a state of emergency declared. Yeah. Up in Ashtabula and those places. The one place got. Got 62 inches or something like that. Like, what the hell? I don't want to. Why do you live there?
But anyways. Yeah, so. So down here in. In the Akron area, we're. We're Projected to get 6 to 10 inches of snow tonight. 6 to 12 inches to depending on the area.
[01:47:41] Speaker A: 6 to 12, as they used to call me in college.
[01:47:43] Speaker B: No, they didn't. Nobody's ever called you that.
And people have called you Chode, maybe.
But anyways, 6 to 12 inches of snow is what's supposed to happen. It started snowing as I was leaving to come over here and record the episode, and already, like, it had barely snowed. There was like, nothing on the ground. Literally nothing.
[01:48:05] Speaker A: No snow.
[01:48:05] Speaker B: The opposite way on the highway of tr. It was just backed up for miles, traffic and nothing. Like, I saw the beginning of the line. It was drivers going too slow. Like, that's all it was, is just drivers going slow, anticipating the snow. It's not even, like, there yet. It's not even on the ground, and they're anticipating it.
[01:48:23] Speaker A: They're very scared, guys.
[01:48:25] Speaker B: Slow drivers, especially on the highway, especially before the conditions are bad, is more dangerous than fast drivers. We've talked about this on the show before. Don't be an idiot.
[01:48:35] Speaker A: Don't be a slow driver.
[01:48:36] Speaker B: And we all live in Northeast Ohio. We all know this is going to happen every single year. Why does everybody forget how to drive in the snow every single year? Snowbone, give them a snow bone.
[01:48:46] Speaker C: Snow Bono.
[01:48:47] Speaker B: Snow. Snowbone. Tell them you want to snowboard. Yeah. I just don't understand. It's getting me gassed up because I was driving here and it was even starting to slow down on my side of the highway, and I was like, what are we doing? There's nothing's even stuck yet to the highway.
[01:49:00] Speaker A: I always feel like the rain drivers are worse than even snow drivers. Like, people that can't drive in the rain. Like, it feels like traffic slows down more in the rain.
[01:49:07] Speaker B: I actually disagree. I disagree. If it's like a torrential downpour, like, if I can't see because the. Like, my windshield wipers going so fast, I still can't see. Like, I will literally pull over. I'm like, I can't handle this.
[01:49:17] Speaker A: Well, yeah, we can't See, it's one thing, but I just. I feel like every time it's raining, people are just driving so slow and pisses me off.
[01:49:23] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, Northeast Ohio gotta love it. And that's. Guess what's this?
It's time for the burning river throwdown.
All right, that's it. It's time for King of the North.
[01:49:53] Speaker A: Oh, boy.
[01:50:03] Speaker B: All right, Kenny, you excited? It's that time of the show again. Your favorite part.
[01:50:08] Speaker A: Can't wait.
[01:50:08] Speaker B: In case anyone doesn't know by now, this is our year long AFC north pickup competition at the end of the season. Whoever comes in last place gets punished in the preseason. Last year, Kenny had a gross of eggs thrown at him by fans in the muni lot before a game in the preseason. This year, Kenny had his entire head of hair and beard shaved clean off. Donated it all. Good job on you. You still lost.
Punishment this season will be you have to go to a public pool, get in, and then publicly announce the you have peed and said pool. We also have. In case this is illegal, we have an alternate punishment of eating. Eating hot dogs until you throw up.
So Kenny, are you excited?
[01:50:46] Speaker A: Bring him on.
[01:50:47] Speaker B: Kenny will just gag himself with the first.
[01:50:51] Speaker A: I don't throw up. So that one's gonna really be.
[01:50:53] Speaker B: This is gonna be wild.
[01:50:54] Speaker A: I might just die that day. What's. What's what? What is the amount of hot dogs you eat before you die?
[01:50:59] Speaker B: Cardiac arrest because you ate so many hot dogs in one sitting. But yeah, let's go ahead and get into it. First things first, I want to remind everybody that Bone is the reigning defending king of the. No, I like that he gives the like. Thank you. Thank you everything.
[01:51:13] Speaker A: Hell with a bomb.
[01:51:14] Speaker B: Kenny, you're a clown.
I know, I know. The accepted vernacular is jester. You're an idiot. I hate you.
Although admittedly, no. I left this in from last week. I'm not in last place anymore. You're in last place. So suck it. Suck right on it. But let's remind everybody of the current records. After week 13, Bone is on top, boning us hard at 24 and 18. I am in second place at 19 and 23 and Kenny bringing up the rear. 17 and 25.
[01:51:49] Speaker A: That's what I do.
[01:51:50] Speaker B: You do? You do? You do. Ask your wife.
This week's game, guys, games. The Ravens, they're on by snow. Game for them, Cincinnati. They head to Dallas to take on the Cowboys among night football. Bone, who you got?
[01:52:08] Speaker C: I got Cincinnati Dax hurt. Right?
[01:52:11] Speaker B: Yep.
[01:52:11] Speaker C: That sound correct?
[01:52:12] Speaker B: Done for the season. I got Cincinnati Knows he's on his fantasy team.
[01:52:14] Speaker C: They're looking for a win. They throw the ball over the place. They got good receivers. I'm not sure. It may be. It's a. Maybe it's a shootout. I don't know. Who's there? Cooper Rush.
[01:52:22] Speaker A: Cooper Rush.
[01:52:23] Speaker C: Yes. I don't know. I'll go Cincinnati.
[01:52:26] Speaker B: Kenny.
[01:52:27] Speaker A: I'm going to go Cincinnati because Bone picked him.
[01:52:32] Speaker B: I also have Cincinnati as well, guys. So for all the reasons that Bones had, Kenny gave no reason other than bone picked them, which is fair. He's winning. So.
But I like Cincinnati just because it seems like they're due. Like, they get. They get so close every week and they. They play really well on offense. They have no defense.
[01:52:49] Speaker A: Well, they can't stop anybody on defense. But the good news is, without Dak Prescott, this Dallas team is pretty advantage anemic on offense.
[01:52:57] Speaker B: Yeah, advantage. Cincinnati. Cincinnati. Because the offense. But we've said it before, as much as I hate the Bengals, Joe Burrow is playing MVP caliber football, but he's not going to win MVP because the Bengals suck.
If they had even like a 500 record right now, it wouldn't even be close. Like, he would be the mvp. Agreed.
So, yeah, I got Cincinnati. And then the only other game in the AFC north this week because they play each other, The Browns cross the border to take on Pittsburgh.
Ken, who you got in this one?
Just go Cleveland. Just fuck it. Send it. What are you, silly? I'm still going to send it. Just do it. Do it. Do it. You won't. Bitch. You're a bitch.
[01:53:38] Speaker A: Steelers 34, 32.
[01:53:41] Speaker B: Oh, you think it's going to be that close?
[01:53:42] Speaker A: As much as I like the Browns in this one and think that they have a shot, I just.
I just can't lose another week. So I got to go Steelers.
[01:53:52] Speaker B: We got to keep it close.
[01:53:53] Speaker A: I just can't. I just can't trust. As much as I love watching Jamis, I just can't trust him fair at this point. Like, I love Jameis, but I can't trust him.
[01:54:01] Speaker B: It is a roller coaster, like you mentioned earlier. It's. It's. It's. And I'm okay with that. Like, I'm okay.
[01:54:06] Speaker A: Look, they're playing competitive football. That's. That's all that I've ever asked for. Like, I would live for 500 football. It's these fucking clowns that are like, oh, 500 is not good enough. Like, we got to win now. Let's go get the Sean Watson. So we lose all our games. Yeah, I would be fine with 500 a little bit better. Every year we won one or two more games. We're in the playoffs. It'd be great. This just like, we had bigger Mayfield, but that wasn't enough for all you clowns.
[01:54:28] Speaker B: Guys, this Kenny needs to come out more often on our show. You just need to just. Just record angry. That's my advice for you from now on. Record angry.
[01:54:36] Speaker A: I'm always angry. I'm a Browns fan.
[01:54:38] Speaker B: You're. You're the Hulk.
[01:54:40] Speaker A: I'm Thor.
[01:54:41] Speaker B: No, I'm Thor.
[01:54:42] Speaker A: I'm Thor.
[01:54:43] Speaker B: Bone. Who you got? This one.
[01:54:45] Speaker C: I know. I want to pick the Browns.
[01:54:47] Speaker B: Go Browns. Do it. Don't be a.
I kind of got.
[01:54:50] Speaker C: To play smart, though, here.
[01:54:53] Speaker B: Do you, though? You got like a.
This is the time to be like, it. Browns win.
[01:54:58] Speaker C: My. My initial instinct is Browns are taking the season against the Steelers.
[01:55:03] Speaker B: Do it. You won't.
[01:55:03] Speaker C: Just for freaking.
[01:55:04] Speaker B: You won't.
[01:55:05] Speaker C: I'll do it.
[01:55:06] Speaker B: Browns.
[01:55:07] Speaker C: Browns 31, Steelers 27.
[01:55:14] Speaker B: Nice. I like it. Bone did it. I talked him into it. I was very convincing in my argument.
[01:55:19] Speaker A: We'll still be down, like, five games. This happens.
[01:55:22] Speaker B: That being said, I'm taking the Steelers 30 to 20. I don't think it's going to be close. The Browns are going to get shit on.
Like, absolutely shit on. It's going to, like. I think. I think we get to 30 to 20 in garbage time. Like, it's going to be 30 to 13, and we're going to be like, oh, we accidentally scored a touchdown at the end.
[01:55:36] Speaker A: Why'd you go back to. Like, two weeks ago, we were like, we gave this team no shot against the Steelers.
[01:55:40] Speaker B: I still think it's a billion to one, and I think that's generous.
[01:55:43] Speaker A: And the snow kind of even things out a little bit and messed everything up, but I feel like there's been.
[01:55:49] Speaker C: Too much shit talking. Even though there's snow delayed for them to lay down.
[01:55:52] Speaker B: Even though there's snow in the area here and in Pittsburgh today, midweek, Wednesday, Thursday, probably into Friday for Pittsburgh. It's supposed to be warm on Sunday, so it's supposed to be, like, 47 degrees.
[01:56:04] Speaker A: I honestly, like, in my heart of hearts, do you think the Browns can win this game and might win this game? I just know that on paper, like, it's a. It's just not a good pick, and I can't. I just can't pick. I'm losing, so I have to pick to win.
[01:56:16] Speaker B: At this point, I feel differently. I think the Browns are going to get stomped. But with that, let me remind everybody to call the burning river sportscast hot take hotline. Never call and leave your hot takes on the hot take hotline. These are hot takes. Kenny Mack left a hot take today.
[01:56:31] Speaker A: We love Kenny Mack.
[01:56:32] Speaker B: Yeah, we do. Good friend. Friend of the show.
[01:56:34] Speaker A: Big old Kenny Mack.
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[01:57:03] Speaker A: I will tell you we can expect next week. We're gonna be live on Sunday night brs live on Sunday. Sunday, Sunday. That'll be YouTube, Facebook and X. As we recap, the week 14 matchup against the Steelers. Should be right around 8pm the next next Thursday. We're back with week 15 preview for the game against the old Kansas city chefs. Who were the chefs? And another Browns backers interview. We do have the browns backers of Kansas City and the return of defensive correspondent John Hughes.
[01:57:34] Speaker B: He was supposed to be on this week but he had a scheduling conflict sometimes. It was weird. I know when he first agreed to it he said we're supposed to be recording on a Monday. And then we all realized, oh wait, there's a Monday night game that week.
[01:57:44] Speaker A: I was gonna say we play planned that with him like a month out and then the Monday night schedule screwed everything up.
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[01:58:33] Speaker A: I got some facts.
[01:58:34] Speaker B: Are they good? Are they whale facts? Did you bring whale facts back? Is it whale facts time yet?
[01:58:38] Speaker A: No, I didn't. But Speaking of whale facts, you got a bonus.
[01:58:41] Speaker B: Fact.
[01:58:41] Speaker A: I saw an episode recently and there was Costanza, and he was talking about something he saw on National Geographic that had a whale. Facts. And he was talking the whole episode about whale facts.
You're my guys.
[01:58:57] Speaker B: The whales are wild, man. Now that I know that you're not going to live up to expectations, what facts do you have for us today?
[01:59:04] Speaker A: By the way, that's the one where Kramer hits the golf ball from the beach into the hole, and then he has to pretend to be a marine biologist. Extracts the golf balls.
Facts. For days.
We're going to talk about. It's wintertime. We're going to snow Wintertime.
[01:59:20] Speaker B: Wintertime.
[01:59:22] Speaker A: Facts release number one. Snow White. Are you dreaming of a white Christmas?
Well, stop it. Because snow is not white.
[01:59:30] Speaker B: What the hell color is it then?
[01:59:32] Speaker A: Is any good snow? Pendant will tell you the white stuff isn't actually white, but rather translucent.
[01:59:39] Speaker B: You're translucent.
[01:59:40] Speaker A: It's the light reflecting off of it that makes it appear white. With the many sides of the snowflake scattering light in many directions, diffusing the entire color spectrum.
[01:59:49] Speaker B: Wow.
Listen, all these scientists ain't tricking me. Snow's white. No, snow is white. White.
[01:59:56] Speaker A: Not white.
[01:59:56] Speaker B: It's white.
[01:59:57] Speaker A: Number two.
Snowflakes.
[01:59:59] Speaker B: I'm white. I'm white.
[02:00:01] Speaker A: I'm white. Snowflakes.
Snowflakes get big.
[02:00:07] Speaker B: How big?
[02:00:08] Speaker A: For decades, there have been stories of giant snowflakes falling all over the globe, measuring anywhere from 2 to 6 and even, on occasion, 15 inches across. Whoa. While many.
[02:00:19] Speaker B: For a second there, I thought you were going to hit me with 15ft. And I was like, holy shit.
[02:00:24] Speaker A: While many of these.
While many have doubted these reports and pointed out the lack of corroborating evidence, scientists now claim there's absolutely nothing to stop flakes from growing that big. As flake size isn't part of the meteorological measuring designations for snow, these massive flakes may well be out there, just unreported, unseen, or broken up by wind currents as they descend. Incredible big snow.
[02:00:50] Speaker B: If I. And there's no way to, like, catch it and show people, too, because you're like, ah, you gotta take a picture real quick. You gotta get it as it's falling. Like, look at that. Yeah.
[02:00:59] Speaker A: Number three.
Contrary to popular belief.
You ever see the old Regal?
[02:01:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
[02:01:09] Speaker A: A yodel can't cause an avalanche.
[02:01:13] Speaker B: Dang.
[02:01:13] Speaker A: There are a number of factors.
[02:01:15] Speaker B: I've been lied to my entire.
[02:01:16] Speaker A: There are a number of factors that can trigger an avalanche, but noise isn't one of them. Weight Is a much more important contributor. A sudden deluge of snow, an increase in wind speed, or even the overzealous footstep of a skier can trigger a sudden, deadly cascade. But a loud burst of Ronnie's terrible singing won't have that much of an effect.
[02:01:40] Speaker B: I resemble that.
[02:01:41] Speaker A: I resemble that. Yeah, exactly.
[02:01:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
[02:01:44] Speaker A: Bonus fact. I thought this one was interesting to use. The way to throw us in here. Snow actually warms you up because snow is comprised of 90 to 95% trapped air, meaning it's a great insulator. This is the reason many animals burrow deep into the snow during the winter in order to hibernate. And also the reason that igloos that use only body heat to warm them can be 100 degrees warmer inside then out.
[02:02:11] Speaker B: Wait.
[02:02:11] Speaker C: Yeah, that's cool.
[02:02:12] Speaker B: 100 degrees?
[02:02:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Basically just your body temperature warms the inside and it gets insulated so you stay real warm. That's how the Eskimos survive.
And that, my friends, is facts for days.
[02:02:24] Speaker B: Wow.
Eskimo the accepted vernacular.
[02:02:29] Speaker A: Probably not.
[02:02:30] Speaker B: I don't think it is. You might have to fix that.
[02:02:31] Speaker A: Pollution.
[02:02:33] Speaker B: Knew it. Yeah. Yeah. You might have to fix that.
[02:02:37] Speaker A: I think you still say native, right, Rod?
[02:02:40] Speaker B: No offense, Matt. We legitimately. We need to educate ourselves. Education needed.
[02:02:44] Speaker A: I think he's done things. People still call him Eskimos.
[02:02:47] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't think you're supposed to say that.
[02:02:49] Speaker A: I don't think, like, that's the equivalent, like, the N word.
[02:02:52] Speaker B: It just felt wrong, that's all. I'll say. Bone thoughts.
[02:02:58] Speaker A: Some people's favorite cookies are escorted Eskimo pies.
[02:03:00] Speaker C: Yeah, Eskimo kisses. You know my nose.
[02:03:04] Speaker A: Yeah. Let's see that.
[02:03:05] Speaker C: Right on the tip there.
[02:03:07] Speaker A: Rubbing the tip in.
[02:03:09] Speaker B: Good.
[02:03:09] Speaker A: Yeah.
[02:03:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[02:03:10] Speaker A: Just rub the tip in.
[02:03:12] Speaker B: What are we doing, guys?
[02:03:13] Speaker A: Six to 12. Rub the tip.
[02:03:15] Speaker B: Wow, this got weird.
[02:03:18] Speaker C: Shouldn't have asked me. I'm going to bed. Bon appetit.
[02:03:22] Speaker A: Don't just be a part of the problem. Be the whole damn problem.
[02:03:25] Speaker B: And only you can prevent river fires.
[02:03:30] Speaker A: Only you.
[02:03:33] Speaker B: Burning River. Burning, Burning River Sports cast.
[02:03:36] Speaker A: Sports.
[02:03:37] Speaker B: This is the Burning River Sportscast.
[02:03:38] Speaker A: This is the burningest River Sports casts.
[02:03:44] Speaker B: This show is on fire.
This shit is on fire.
[02:03:59] Speaker A: This is not a very good song.
[02:04:00] Speaker B: Alicia Keys is a great singer, though.
[02:04:02] Speaker A: She is a beautiful to boot.
[02:04:04] Speaker B: Yeah, there you go.
[02:04:05] Speaker A: Booty.
[02:04:07] Speaker B: Good night, Cleveland.
[02:04:08] Speaker A: Good night, Cleveland.
[02:04:09] Speaker C: Good night, Aan.
[02:04:10] Speaker B: Quiet on set.
[02:04:12] Speaker A: I now have two loves in my life.
[02:04:15] Speaker B: B City living and a voodoo woman named Phyllis. I didn't think we'd be getting into Brad Pitt's house.
[02:04:24] Speaker A: I can't even say I didn't think we'd be getting into Brad Pitt's ass.
[02:04:28] Speaker B: Yeah, didn't think we'd get in there.
[02:04:30] Speaker A: We talk a lot of analingus on this show.
[02:04:33] Speaker B: So put your right foot in and take your right foot out. Then put your right foot in and shut the hell up. Because it's not time for the hokey pokey. It's time for the burning river sports cab.
[02:04:43] Speaker A: Motorboat.
[02:04:44] Speaker B: You play the motorboat.
[02:04:47] Speaker D: You motorboat.
[02:04:48] Speaker A: Son of a.
[02:04:48] Speaker D: You old seal.
[02:04:49] Speaker A: Are you. You know what I was thinking during that interview?
[02:04:51] Speaker B: What? What were you? Nothing, cuz. You don't have thoughts, Cuz you're a brainless idiot.
[02:04:56] Speaker D: Wow.
[02:04:57] Speaker B: My name is Uhtred.
[02:04:58] Speaker A: Son of Uhtred.
[02:04:59] Speaker B: By the way. I want my foreskin back.
[02:05:03] Speaker A: Women's Guide to To Anal Sex and it was the second edition. Who makes second? Second edition.
[02:05:09] Speaker C: The weather outside is weather.
[02:05:12] Speaker B: The other one. The finger. The finger Eating food. Fingers. Oh my God. My ass is full of he. Everywhere.
[02:05:20] Speaker C: Yes.
[02:05:20] Speaker A: Ejaculate all over my body and my genitals.
[02:05:23] Speaker C: Yes.
[02:05:23] Speaker B: Oh no. We suck again.
[02:05:26] Speaker C: You don't need fundamentals when you got heart.
[02:05:29] Speaker A: And. And Jesus.
[02:05:30] Speaker B: And Jesus.
[02:05:31] Speaker C: That's right.
[02:05:32] Speaker B: Touchdown. Anyway, what do you mean funny?
[02:05:34] Speaker E: Fun?
[02:05:34] Speaker B: Funny how? How am I funny? It's going down. I'm yelling.
[02:05:38] Speaker A: Timber.
[02:05:39] Speaker E: God damn jets.
[02:05:40] Speaker B: Should we start a meat podcast? Like, like, like, like a meat pod.
Slow roasted.
[02:05:49] Speaker A: The leads are weak. The leads are weak. Leads are weak.
[02:05:54] Speaker D: You're weak.
[02:05:55] Speaker A: Then we should send a team of oil core drillers. Allah Armageddon to Mars to have them access the newly discovered reservoirs of water trap 7 to 12 miles under the surface that when released, will cover the entirety of everything on the planet. Less than a mile high.
[02:06:04] Speaker B: All I do is win, win, win, no matter what. Erroneous.
[02:06:07] Speaker D: Erroneous on both counts.
[02:06:09] Speaker B: Oh, Lord. I mean, when I. Last year, when I won and went home, you know, my wife's pants hit the ground. Wow. But damn.
[02:06:15] Speaker A: I'm sorry I hijacked your segment for a second to do some good podcasting.
You know why, Mr. Cuz? You drove a Hyundai to get here tonight.
[02:06:25] Speaker B: I drove in $83,000 BMW. That's my name. I think we've officially lost all of our more conservative viewers, so I don't think they want to listen any longer.
[02:06:36] Speaker C: It's Mother Nature.
[02:06:38] Speaker B: I live my life a quarter mile at a time.
[02:06:40] Speaker A: Where's logo girl when you need her?
[02:06:41] Speaker B: I desperately want to make love.
[02:06:43] Speaker A: We need cheese girl. Now who's canceled? Now who's canceled? Still down probably you making it for the fat people.
[02:06:55] Speaker B: I'm not just you.
[02:06:57] Speaker A: We're a whole race basically.
[02:07:00] Speaker B: No way you're just straight. Just finger bang their salad.
[02:07:06] Speaker C: You first get shocked and then you get the shocker.
[02:07:11] Speaker A: Hey, you like to see almost naked?
[02:07:13] Speaker B: That's cool, man.
[02:07:13] Speaker A: Whatever.
[02:07:14] Speaker B: No, no, no, no, no. Most people like they're driving a long and they're like in between meals, they're like, I'm a little hungry. I'm going to have a granola bar. And he's like, I need a cheeseburger.
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