[00:00:00] Speaker A: Typing media.
[00:00:22] Speaker B: It'S time. Time for the burning river sportscast. Let not your heart be troubled. The greatest show on earth has finally come back to Akron. Well, yes, we had a Funkadelic time working with seaside events on the inaugural Cleveland Browns fan cruise, and it was a smashing success. Fans had a wild ass time. Players didn't want to leave. I did a whole podcast. Asleep. All right. Not all the way, but mostly. Meanwhile, as we've been sleeping off the crews in the booze, the Browns fun office continues making moves. Can I get a hell yeah for k York? Back in the groove.
[00:00:52] Speaker C: Hell yeah.
[00:00:53] Speaker B: Hell no.
Free agency transactions and rumors continue to swirl at breakneck pace as teams prepare for the 2024 campaign. What does it all mean, Basil? All down for you? Next on the Burning river sportscast.
[00:01:17] Speaker C: Gary, don't beat my ass for this, but spoiler alert, Gary did not finish, and he came in dead last.
[00:01:24] Speaker D: I walk in, we're hot tubbing that night. I don't have a shirt on. John Hughes is in there using the restroom. He's gonna pee in the urinal, right? He's got a shirt on. But I go back to back with John Hughes sitting there peeing, and I say out loud, back to back with John Hughes. That's what I'm talking about. And he kind of laughed and I laughed, and he goes and washes his hands, and then he said something to me on the way out, you know? Cause he recognized me from the podcast and stuff. So it was friendly, but it was just kind of funny. I don't know.
[00:01:55] Speaker C: John Hughes is a good dude.
[00:01:56] Speaker D: Yeah, he was cool. He was really.
[00:01:57] Speaker B: You have a couple of drinks with you at that point on that so.
[00:02:00] Speaker C: That you could be jealous and come on in.
[00:02:02] Speaker B: When I'm thinking about bowling and John Hughes in that urinal.
We were in the same urinal, like, the day before, and I left. I was like, I'm not being back to back with you. I had to pee so bad.
[00:02:13] Speaker C: Walk out.
[00:02:14] Speaker B: You're like. I'm just like, so the thing about, like, big John Hughes.
[00:02:17] Speaker C: Big John Hughes is so much bigger than either of us.
[00:02:20] Speaker B: Back to back in the.
Oh, man, the awesomeness that was having 3rd, fourth and fifth dinner every night, I mean, that was like, forget about everything else.
[00:02:31] Speaker C: We just went 3rd, fourth, and fifth dinner.
[00:02:33] Speaker B: We would have dinner with brown fans at five, and then, like, the rest of the night, we would just have endless dinner. We would go to the buffet until the buffer.
[00:02:40] Speaker C: Like, that was where we did most of our work.
[00:02:42] Speaker B: And we just keep eating when a buffet closed at nine. We would head down to the pizza shop and sit and listen to the music and eat pizza.
It's ludicrous because this is how you tackle people.
The game of football is a combat sport. This is the most looted. This cannot stand. It will stand for this year and it will have to be repealed.
[00:03:07] Speaker C: Is this going to be like the time when they said you can review pass interference?
[00:03:10] Speaker B: Yes, it's going to be exactly like this.
[00:03:12] Speaker C: The worst idea we've ever had.
[00:03:13] Speaker B: Because seriously, if I'm an NFL defender and I get flagged for this and I cost my team 15 yards, like the next time I'm in that position, I'm just gonna be like, I guess I'll just stand here and watch that guy.
Welcome into the Burning river sportscast presented about tavern Media and brought to you by seaside events as the official cruise event provider of the Cleveland Browns and organizer of the Browns fan Cruise. I'm Kenny Thunder, seated beside the carnival cat himself, the man who would have had the world's largest foreskin if it weren't unfortunate rendezvous with us medical norms in the nineties. Often imitated, never duplicated. Read out Ronnie jams on the board today. Self proclaimed Beyonce sympathizer and Kanye west impersonator. The big Bone, man Bone, who would have played a bit of Rocky Balboa. And why queen bee or ye queen bee?
[00:04:01] Speaker D: Cause she's gone country.
Rocky country.
[00:04:05] Speaker B: There we go, back to red hot. Unrelated, where can our listeners find the dopest dope they ever heard on a podcast, as well as the only Cleveland Browns podcast dedicated to Browns backers everywhere. That's right. We want to hear from you in your chapters about all the cool shit you got going on and all the hard work you do. In fact, let me make an open invitation right now before Ronnie James takes over and just say we loved hearing from you guys all year long. Met some incredible people along the way, hung out with even more of you on the Browns fan cruise. Truly the best fans in the world. If you haven't been featured on our show yet and want to be, please reach out. Whether you have events or things you want to highlight or talk about, or you just want to talk about good old brown news, we're here for you to be your sounding board, your megaphone to help you grow your groups and raise awareness about anything and anything y'all got going on. And now, Ronnie jams. Where can our listeners find all that?
[00:04:53] Speaker C: Fun fact. I am a co host of this show.
[00:04:55] Speaker B: Sorry, I had to bring the energy today after I slip walked through most.
[00:04:57] Speaker C: Of last week's show.
[00:04:58] Speaker B: You know, it's fine.
[00:04:58] Speaker C: I love it.
[00:04:59] Speaker B: To be fair, it wasn't my fault we were so busy. We were sleeping like 3 hours a night and I was sleeping even less because I have apnea. So suck it.
[00:05:04] Speaker C: Also, to be fair, after you get through your opening, typically I'm the one talking most of the time, so. But anyways, you can find our podcast wherever you get your podcast. I'm talking Apple Podcast, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcast, Amazon Music, Pandora, Heart Radio, podcast, Castro, good pods and so many more. And don't forget to subscribe on YouTube, the only place you can find our video podcast, as well as all of the interviews we do with those browns backers that you just talked about. And check us out on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok. Our handle for all those socials, including YouTube, is burning over Sportscast and we are on X, the artist formerly known as Twitter with the handle at burningoverpod. While you're at it, check out our merch www.thetappetmedia.com shop. We've got all kinds of stuff in the shop. We got the cruise line, the chubb line, cold weather gear. We're going to start putting tanks in there. But like tank tops.
No, no, no. You suggested that, but we can't put actual tanks in there.
[00:05:50] Speaker B: We're gonna put tank tops, military grade equipment, right here.
[00:05:52] Speaker C: Check it out. We're always adding stuff today on the show. This is what you can look forward to. We will recap the Cleveland Browns fan cruise. It was a good time. We'll talk about it. This thing was a blast. We're gonna tell you everything that happened basically day by day.
[00:06:07] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:06:07] Speaker C: So that you could be jealous and come on it. Maybe if there's another one.
[00:06:10] Speaker B: Come on it. Yeah.
Nice.
Wow.
[00:06:16] Speaker C: Completely derailed in the first half of the show. We'll also discuss the Browns news, all the latest Browns news and NFL news that's happened since we got back. A bunch of stuff broke, like right after our show last time.
[00:06:29] Speaker B: We thought it was a big show, and then it got.
[00:06:31] Speaker C: And then there was more.
[00:06:32] Speaker B: There was so much more.
[00:06:32] Speaker C: There was so much more. And then in the second half of the show, we have an interview with the newly dubbed Queen Bee and master MC of the Browns fan cruise, an on field MC for Cleveland Browns home games, Bridget Linton.
[00:06:43] Speaker B: And may I add new friend to the show, new friend of the show, Bridget Linton.
[00:06:46] Speaker C: We gave her that nickname, by the way. Queen Bee and Master Mc. I can't believe nobody else thought of that sooner. What a bunch of idiots.
[00:06:53] Speaker B: Idiots.
[00:06:55] Speaker C: So forget about the gps, because there will be no turning left. There will be no turning right. Because the only way that we know how to turn here on the burning river sportscast in the tappet media recording studios is up. We only turn up.
[00:07:08] Speaker B: We only turn up.
[00:07:08] Speaker C: So let's turn up right now with the burning river news story of the week.
Thank you.
[00:07:25] Speaker B: Thankfully.
[00:07:26] Speaker C: Just cut the whole. Anyways.
[00:07:30] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:07:31] Speaker C: All right, so this week, for the news story of the week, there is no news story of the week. There is no news because we have the return of the Kenny log, boys. Hang on. Let's give it a sounder. This is the Kenny.
[00:07:51] Speaker B: That'll do.
Look, usually I enjoy the Kenny log. Today, I'm a little beefed up, so.
[00:07:57] Speaker C: Beefed up.
You've been beefing up for years. What are you talking about?
[00:08:01] Speaker B: Boys, I've had some troubling feedback about our show.
[00:08:04] Speaker C: What'd you hear?
[00:08:05] Speaker D: Oh, boy.
[00:08:05] Speaker B: And I need to set the record straight before anybody else gets their feelings hurt.
So before I get any deeper than even service level here, I'd just like to say this is a podcast. It's meant to be comedic infotainment. We often say things using abrasive language, maybe even a curse word here or.
[00:08:21] Speaker C: There, because I've never swore in my life.
[00:08:23] Speaker B: My experience, that's generally how adults having transparent, open, and friendly conversations interact with each other.
So we do this show because we're a huge Browns fans. I would put our freedom up against any other fans of anything in the entire world, and we would suplex city the shit out of them to parts unknown so fast and so hard, the highway patrol would write us a ticket if they could find us.
B. We all have background in the game, so we're generally knowledgeable by the sport that the three of us literally grew up playing together. Hell, there are more people in this room that played college football and didn't right now.
And see, we enjoy doing it, and we're hopeful that maybe we can spread a little joy, a little laughter, and hopefully help fans share in the love and experience it is being a Browns fan of what it means to us boys that takes us to part d.
We dabble.
[00:09:12] Speaker C: We do dabble.
[00:09:13] Speaker B: We dabble in all sorts of things.
Other Cleveland sports from time to time. World events, geopolitical affairs, entertainment, movies, music. We dabble because this show is an extension of us and the conversations we have together on a regular basis. Because, spoiler alert, we're human beings and we're capable of having interests and being aware of things outside of the Cleveland Browns, even though we love the Browns.
So let me just say that most of this troubling feedback has been directly related to bone and our conversations with him about otherworldly affairs, religion specifically. So let me say this, if Taylor Swift was our board operator, we'd probably spend a lot more time dabbling on music. Well, yeah, we don't have Taylor Swift, but we do have a guy who was a history major.
[00:09:57] Speaker C: We've got something better.
[00:09:58] Speaker B: A history teacher, schooled all the way through a graduate degree and is one of the few people that I know that has read the Bible truly cover to cover and is as steadfast in his faith as anyone I've ever known. So while he'll humbly deny his expertise in this area and being able to relate actual dated history with biblical events and demystifying parts of theology that we don't always understand or have answers to, he's very good at making those connections and helping to explain at least what he knows based on his education and his personal understanding.
Again, I suppose if we had a jewish friend or an islamic friend that was this knowledgeable and would dabble in trying to help us understand their religion, we would as well. In fact, we're equal opportunity here. I welcome interfaith discussions and theology lessons from anyone who has the type of understanding and ability to communicate that our own bone man does.
And since our bone man does have this genuine ability, we tend to leverage it during certain dabblings. Because, again, this shows an extension of us in our interests and in a very real way reflects a lot of who we are and is a part that we hope you find genuine fun, or at least interesting to some degree.
Anyways, enough with the disclaimers here. Hopefully all that makes sense and is fair.
The troubling part in a part that's been eating my ass for the last few days is that by asking Bowen these questions, we've now been accused of somehow exploiting his beliefs with malice, giving him a hard time about his faith, or even making fun of his beliefs. So let's draw that line in the sand real quick and deep right now. That has never been our intent, ever. We'll give Bowen a moment here to rebut all this here in a minute and tell us if he feels personally victimized here before. But before we do, I just say I've known bone since we were in kindergarten.
If he felt he was somehow being dismissed or was uncomfortable with our line of questioning or segments on the show. One, he would probably just beat our ass because he's a top ten crossfitter in the entire nation, enrolled in the entire world. And two, he'd tell us. Cause he'd say, I don't like being a part of that. I'm not talking about this because he's a grown ass man and he gets to make decisions for himself.
So the last thing I'd say is, again, I'm not trying to put words in Bone's mouth and we'll give him his chance to put two cent in here. But I think when we ask him, he would likely say something like, I enjoy having these conversations regardless of the context because if there's even one person out there listening that maybe has the same question or same misunderstanding, and our friend Bone can help them understand or get closer to God or stronger in their faith because of something that he said, then screw the rest of the details. Because outside of being a former college football player, one of the best board ops and Brown's color commentators in the game, helping people and leading them toward the word of God in any capacity is a good thing and a good opportunity.
But this idea that we are belittling or giving him a hard time simply for asking questions, I just. I can't comprehend the level of victimhood that would leave someone so gobsmacked because someone dare ask for clarification on ancient texts, some of the oldest written language in the world, written well outside of our cultural norms of today, and that from that you take offense?
You feel offended for him?
I would simply and humbly ask what's the alternative here? Blindly following the only faith that most of us have ever really known, being born and raised in modern era US history, a time period which still enables us to paint an all white, totally caucasian Jesus and leave those murals all over? I can't even begin to fathom the hate you must have in your heart for the 5 billion people in the world that weren't born and raised as you were, that didn't go to the same place, PSR or awareness classes when they were little, but instead were taught a totally different religion, one that they spent their whole lives believing in simply because it's the only religion they've ever known. Thank God you weren't born in the other 80% of the world that doesn't know the christian faith. I mean, hell, you must believe those people are an absolute aversion and a disgrace to outright deny God and worship someone else.
But how dare we ask questions about a faith we share that level of emptiness these people must feel deep, deep in their soul. It's what leads to the overly judgmental organized religion that is killing the growth of congregations all over the world because they physically cannot empathize or sympathize with people in a real human way.
I don't feel bad for bone, and I don't feel bad for us. I feel bad for you and the small minded world in which you must live to put a bow on this. Yes, this is a podcast. We use absurdity to illustrate absurdity. Our answers, our retorts and reconciliations are often derived through humor, slang, or other unconventional means of conversation.
Grow up, Peter Pan.
Don't take life too seriously. None of us get out alive.
That's my Kenny logo. So bone floor is yours. I mean, we ask you these questions because we enjoy having the conversations. We ask you these questions off air all the time. We text them to you. We're talking in the car, on the golf course, wherever.
[00:15:11] Speaker C: I think, just real quick, that's what people don't understand is like, these are questions we ask bone every day. And again, we go back to, and I don't mean to steal bones, thunder, he is going to answer, I'm thunder. You are thunder.
He. We do ask him these questions all the time simply because we would like to know, and we want to have that discussion and understand where he's coming from. Based in the religion.
[00:15:36] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:15:38] Speaker C: And you mentioned it. We all share the same faith. Not that we get into that, you know, it's none of anybody else's business, but not that we get into that too much on the show, but I have two tattoos on my body, and both of them are faith based. And, like, people don't know me. They don't like, just cause I'm asking questions doesn't mean I'm making fun of Zach. But we'll let Bone answer these questions here.
[00:16:00] Speaker B: Bone, have you ever felt victimized by our questions, our line of questioning?
[00:16:05] Speaker D: I've never felt like you guys were making fun of me.
I enjoy the questions and I want to be questioned. And in fact, I did this podcast. You guys asked me, probably about last august, july, in the mindset that I get to talk to you guys more about Jesus in the Bible. Honestly, that's my. The God's honest truth. And I would say the drive home the other, the other week as we left Miami, what did we drive, like 20 hours straight?
[00:16:30] Speaker C: 20 hours. You drove it all over.
[00:16:31] Speaker B: You drove power bottom.
[00:16:32] Speaker C: You talked about him being a grown man. He's the grownest man I've ever met.
[00:16:37] Speaker B: He dated us all the way to, literally, miami.
[00:16:39] Speaker C: He said, nobody drives my truck. I drive my truck.
[00:16:41] Speaker D: Literally, the last 2 hours of that trip, I was so tired. It was like probably from four in the morning to six in the morning. And you guys asked me a faith based question and we talked about it, various questions for like the next 2 hours. And I was wide awake after that. So it literally got us home safely.
[00:16:57] Speaker C: I don't know. God got us home.
[00:16:59] Speaker B: There you go.
[00:17:00] Speaker D: But, yeah, so I welcome that. And I've worked for a union the last seven years, and I'm an outspoken believer and people know that I follow, and I've been countlessly harassed and asked questions and mocked, openly and harassed at work for it, and I can handle it.
[00:17:19] Speaker B: So even if we weren't mocking you, it would be okay.
[00:17:21] Speaker C: I was gonna say when you said we've, you don't feel like we've ever made fun of you just about this? Correct. We make fun of you all the time, just not about this.
[00:17:28] Speaker B: But for the record, on this show, you're comfortable with us asking you questions based on your expertise and knowledge of the Bible and.
[00:17:37] Speaker D: Absolutely. And like you said, I don't have all the answers. I mean, feel free to anything I ever say on this program. If you're like, I don't know about that, go read it for yourself. I encourage anybody to go read a reputable version of scripture and check it for yourself or any other commentary because I read and I try to educate myself, but I obviously don't know everything.
I put a little pressure on myself, too, where I want to answer in a good way and have a reasonable discourse, I guess, but I just do my best with it. And sometimes I may sound silly and that's okay.
[00:18:12] Speaker B: Yeah. Again, for anyone listening, the humbleness here. I mean, this was a man who was like quoting Hebrew at us on, on that 20 hours drive, like talking.
[00:18:20] Speaker C: He literally pulled scripture after scripture, was like, well, it says in this book on this, you know, this verse, this chapter, this verse multiple times.
[00:18:28] Speaker B: So he's very humble. But the point is that he's knowledgeable about this. So we ask him questions. Any expert about anything he is.
[00:18:36] Speaker C: Bone, you're very steadfast in your faith, and on top of it, you're a history major. So they just kind of go, that's.
[00:18:42] Speaker B: The incredible thing about having a conversation with him, is that you can go that step deeper because he can not only talk to the biblical, should we talk about neanderthals, the biblical piece of it.
But he can also tie it back to, like, this was actually what was going on in history at the time. Or, like, you know, think about all. Just the history of the Bible and, like, it was rewritten and the different eras and people that were involved. It's like, bone knows all this stuff, so, like, why would we not leverage that when we're trying to just have a conversation about something that's interesting to us? So, I don't know. For the record, bone doesn't feel victimized. We don't feel like we're victimizing him.
[00:19:19] Speaker C: I don't know if you're able to do this. If you can't, don't worry about it. But we should put, like, a breaking nude.
Bone not victimized.
[00:19:24] Speaker B: Bone not victimized. My questions about religion.
[00:19:27] Speaker C: Yeah, questions are valid. Bone not victimized.
[00:19:30] Speaker B: Fair enough. So. Fair enough. You want a piece of all the action.
[00:19:35] Speaker C: You knew?
[00:19:36] Speaker B: I just wanted to make sure we like. Because we. Because we've. We've been adding that a little bit more, sprinkling it into the show a little more, because I find the conversation so fascinating, and we're gonna continue to do it. So I want to make sure that bone's good with it, the audience is good with it.
[00:19:52] Speaker C: Like you said, we're open minded here, and we want to learn about other things. If you have any other faith based questions, not even Christian related.
[00:19:58] Speaker B: Yeah, shoot. Put them in tweets to us, and we'll ask Bone.
[00:20:00] Speaker C: Put them on the hot take hotline, and we'll ask Bone about it.
[00:20:03] Speaker B: I love it.
[00:20:03] Speaker C: Put them on the spot.
[00:20:04] Speaker B: Bring them in.
[00:20:06] Speaker C: But with all of that being said, and with that wrapped up nicely, let's talk about.
Let's do a quick browns fan cruise, 2024 recap.
[00:20:15] Speaker B: All right.
[00:20:27] Speaker C: All right. Yes. I said the 2024 browns fan cruise. If you caught that, that's because it will be back in 2025.
[00:20:35] Speaker B: It was hell, yes.
[00:20:37] Speaker C: Announced that they will be coming back. We don't have all of the details yet, but we will soon, so stay tuned for that. Let's just do a quick, like, daily review, right? So we got on the ship.
[00:20:47] Speaker B: Correct?
[00:20:47] Speaker C: So we got on day one. We're cruising. You get all your. All your goodies. They have a nice little swag bag ready for you. I don't have all the items, but this was one of them.
You get your pass. That's hanging up here.
There was a number of other sunglasses.
[00:21:01] Speaker B: Photo book.
[00:21:02] Speaker C: Photo book.
[00:21:02] Speaker B: I would say even before that, too. For those that haven't really been on a cruise before, I was very nervous about getting on the boat. The embarkation period, they took care of us, and we got kind of special treatment. Cause we had media equipment to bring on the board on boat, but it honestly was quite organized.
[00:21:17] Speaker C: Watching everybody get on the boat, it didn't take very long.
[00:21:19] Speaker B: Like, if we had normal tickets and we're just going on the cruise just for fun. It wasn't. There's lines that were long, but it was very organized, so there really shouldn't have been.
Like, I had anxiety about it.
[00:21:30] Speaker C: No lines as long as the long lines at the airport.
[00:21:36] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:21:37] Speaker C: They were shorter than most airport lines, from what I saw.
[00:21:39] Speaker B: Yeah. And once you get on the boat, like you said, everything was like. I mean, you could just go do whatever you want. Your room was stocked and ready to go.
[00:21:46] Speaker C: Yep. So, yeah, like I said, that's when we got on. We went to our rooms. We kind of settled in, put everything down. We got our swag bags, had a bunch of goodies in there for you, which was awesome. And then, basically, we got the day to relax. I mean, we didn't. We went and set up.
[00:22:02] Speaker B: We were in the remote studio, entire studio, in a conference room, because that's what you do. That's what you do if you run a podcast on a boat.
[00:22:09] Speaker C: But, no, I mean, everybody else got to relax. And then we had the opening day, opening night pool party up on the main deck at night. We introduced. They introduced all. Bridget Linton was out there introducing everybody, including us, all the alumni and us. So we got to come out there, rev up the crowd a little bit.
[00:22:29] Speaker B: Yeah, just throwing it down. Some of the alumni sang and told some funny stories, and that was a good time. And that went till pretty late. Unfortunately, that night, it was a little chilly, and so they moved us from the outside deck to, like, the inside solarium.
[00:22:43] Speaker C: It got a lot more cozy in there.
They were allowed to everybody kind of. That's where you got your first introductions to all of the alumni.
[00:22:51] Speaker B: And they were handing out free drinks. I don't know, like, those probably weren't, like, a part of a drink package or anything else. Those were just guys, like, carrying trays around, like, my ties and stuff. Hand them out to everybody in the crowd.
[00:22:59] Speaker C: Yep.
[00:23:00] Speaker B: Had a group picture with everybody. Big group picture with the whole everybody on the fan cruise. I can, you know, throw that up there. So that was very cool. I mean, this was there. I mean, this chomps was there. It was like, everybody was there. This was dope.
[00:23:10] Speaker C: Yeah, it was a good time. You could play I spy. I'll put the picture, the group picture up on our social media. Eventually.
[00:23:18] Speaker B: You'll never find me.
[00:23:19] Speaker C: Find us. You're like a. Yeah, you're.
[00:23:22] Speaker B: I'm there, but you'll look.
[00:23:23] Speaker C: You really hit back.
[00:23:25] Speaker D: I'm not in the picture.
[00:23:26] Speaker C: No, Bone didn't get in.
[00:23:27] Speaker B: Bone was busy videotaping and taking her own picture.
[00:23:30] Speaker C: I will say this real quick before we go further and telling you what else happened. Bone and our good friend Michael, which happens to be Kenny's cousin, I believe. Second cousin.
[00:23:37] Speaker B: Cousin. Yeah.
[00:23:39] Speaker C: Loosely related.
But both of them were fantastic on this thing. So shout out to our crew.
[00:23:48] Speaker B: Best crew in the game.
The thing is, like, middle of the.
[00:23:52] Speaker C: Ocean, which we'll get to. We had a interview with Josh Cribbs in the middle of the ocean. They're carrying our equipment, making sure it doesn't get wet and destroyed.
[00:24:01] Speaker B: We had kind of our own itinerary of things that we needed to do. We needed to be able to.
[00:24:05] Speaker C: We were ambitious on this thing.
[00:24:06] Speaker B: Well, we need to be able to, like, pop in and talk to, like, the seaside events crew and, like, be a part of some of those conversations. And, I mean, these guys that came with us, I mean, they did everything and anything we asked, and it was just. And it was done. We didn't worry about it. So anything that we were preparing for, whether it's a show or be on a stage with the alumni, asking questions, like, we got to do our part. They did everything else basically to make the show go on. So, to your point, just absolutely phenomenal on their end.
[00:24:34] Speaker C: Great crew. But so, moving on here. Day two.
Day two was at sea day. Right?
[00:24:39] Speaker B: So at sea on our way to the Bahamas.
[00:24:42] Speaker C: Or wait, day two was.
[00:24:44] Speaker B: No, no, day two was beach. Day two was beach day.
[00:24:48] Speaker C: We got a free beach day in the Bahamas, which was nice, because on this thing, there's a lot of events that they have for you. So it's kind of scheduled out. It was nice to be able to have some time to yourself, to be able to do kind of what you wanted to do.
[00:25:00] Speaker B: And we had a great lunch in a local Mackenzie's waterfront tavern type area. And just. Just fresh seafood right out of the. I mean, they're literally fantastic.
[00:25:11] Speaker C: Massive.
[00:25:12] Speaker B: Their store was literally on the water. They just, like, fish out the back of it and get their stuff. So tremendous, tremendous lunch there. Had a chance to walk down, do some beach walking, and walk through the shops on the way back, and get a little piece of just the culture of the area and mix with the locals a little bit and just see what they had going on. There was parts of the place. It was crazy. There was a beach dance party going on when we first got there.
Just random people twerking in the sand. It was wild.
[00:25:43] Speaker C: It was pretty crazy.
[00:25:44] Speaker B: We went to a quieter part of the beach.
So another thing, too, that we didn't even miss from day one is we had dinner every night in, like, the formal dining room.
[00:25:54] Speaker C: Yep.
[00:25:54] Speaker B: And that was in with a bunch of other Browns fans. So we had Browns fans, like, at our table. Shout out to the Kent Brownsbackers. Yeah, they were actually with us all week long.
[00:26:05] Speaker C: Got to have a lot of good conversations.
[00:26:07] Speaker B: So once we got back on rockship, if you're listening. Yeah, Ron, Sandy.
[00:26:10] Speaker C: Ron and Sandy had a great time.
[00:26:12] Speaker B: Hanging out with those guys. They have a. An event we'll talk about here later, coming up. But anyway, shout out to the Kent brownsbackers.
Ron and Sandy had dinner with them every night, but when we got back on the boat on Tuesday from the Bahamas, we had dinner with Ben Davis, who sat with us and was able to share.
[00:26:31] Speaker C: I believe that was the night that Ben Davis became bone man's all time favorite. Brown.
[00:26:39] Speaker D: Yes.
[00:26:40] Speaker C: If I'm not mistaken.
[00:26:41] Speaker D: I told him that, actually, and I think he is. I mean, his whole story and just his demeanor and just the way he spoke to just all our interactions with him, the interview you guys did at the table, he's probably like that with everybody, but that makes him even more of just, like, a intriguing guy, where it's just like, he's just genuine.
[00:26:57] Speaker C: He just gave off, like, this warm feeling, like he was just like, you know, we're old friends, and I'm just. I'm just rekindling that.
[00:27:03] Speaker B: I can tell you this is that just observing the autograph sessions, Ben was a bottleneck in that room because a lot of those guys were like, you know, we had multiple sessions for autographs, and they were pretty.
[00:27:16] Speaker C: Well, especially, like, QRH guys. They've been through this. They know. They're like, this is what we do.
[00:27:20] Speaker B: Ben would sit and lend his ear to anybody that was like, hey, like, tell me and just tell stories. And so, like, not great for an autograph signing, but. But also great because the fans got a truly memorable experience out of that, just like we did having dinner with him on downtown.
[00:27:34] Speaker D: The dude had seven straight interceptions in games for the Browns.
[00:27:37] Speaker C: For seven straight games.
[00:27:38] Speaker D: For seven straight games.
[00:27:39] Speaker C: Yeah, it was wild. Second most all time.
[00:27:42] Speaker B: What's fascinating about Ben is just, he played in a different era. So, like, the stories that he could. He can tell are just so different than talking to some of the younger guys in the organization. Everything was so totally different.
[00:27:53] Speaker C: It was fantastic. And I can't stress enough, like, everybody got to sit with an alumni.
[00:27:58] Speaker B: Yes. At least once.
[00:28:00] Speaker C: You know, it wasn't all the same. It was, you know, it was random who you got to sit with, but at least one of your dinners, you got to sit with an alumni and you. So, you know, it's a smaller group at that table. You got almost one on one time with these NFL, you know, the Browns alumni. And it was just awesome.
[00:28:15] Speaker B: I mean, there were times where. I mean, there was only. There was, what, five people at our table in Ben. So it was like. Or was there?
[00:28:21] Speaker C: Yes. Three. Three. Ben literally talked to us so long that his wife had to come over and take him away. She's like, guys, it's getting late. We gotta wrap this up.
[00:28:29] Speaker B: That's right. And I think the common refrain we heard from a lot of the players was like, that was their favorite part of the week, was just getting to spend that. That intimate time telling stories, just talking to fans. I remember every night that. The way they did dinner there on that cruise was. They had a five or 530, you know, dinner time, and that was when we were there with the Browns cruise. And then they have a second dinner time at like seven or 730. And that was when the rest of, like, the cruise ship could go into the formal, formal dining room. Main dining room.
And I mean, they had to kick, those guys. I mean, Greco, every time I left.
[00:29:03] Speaker C: Cribs was a popular one.
[00:29:04] Speaker B: They were sitting and talking all night long.
[00:29:06] Speaker C: I remember the one night. The one night we went to dinner, then we went to second dinner up at the.
[00:29:10] Speaker B: Up at the buffet, which I missed second.
[00:29:12] Speaker C: I got. I gotta tell you guys, one of the main reasons to go on a cruise ship is cause you can have second dinner. You could have third dinner, you could have fourth dinner. Hell, you could even have fifth dinner.
[00:29:20] Speaker B: 6Th dinner with the pizza shop later.
[00:29:22] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. So it was. That part was awesome. But we went to second dinner and I came back down. Cause I forgot something in the.
In the dining room. And, I mean, this was like 45 minutes, an hour later, and I ran into josh cribs with his entire group. Like, everybody's still there, just like, hovering around the table, talking. And the crew's trying to, like. The crew from the crews is trying to, like, shuffle. They're like, hey, guys, there's another.
Yeah. So that it was pretty cool. And they did all the players said, like, they loved talking to everybody during the dinner. So that was, that was cool.
[00:29:55] Speaker B: Can I just say just in general, too, like, I think when, like, and we've talked about this during the whole promotion of the fan crews and the idea of, like, you get to rub elbows and, like, homing, go with these guys, just hanging out, just like, you're just like, like you were just a part of their own family.
[00:30:09] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:30:10] Speaker B: The amount of times and just the, just the flat out, like, organic access that you have to get, like, how many times we see Eric Metcalf on the elevator.
[00:30:17] Speaker D: He just walked the doors open and.
[00:30:19] Speaker C: Metcalf, that was one of my favorite. It's the dumbest memory. Dumbest memory, but it's one of my favorite memories from the entire Browns fan crews is obviously, we got to interview Eric, so we got to talk to him several times leading up to this thing, and again at the opening night pool party and everything. And I think one other time before this happened, we got to talk to him. So he knew our faces and everything, and he knew most of, honestly, the browns fan crews faces by the end of this thing. But he was in the elevator. The elevator is packed. We're on the top level. We hit the button to go down. We're waiting for it. It shows up and it's just completely packed. Most of the people wrote it up just so they could ride it back down. And he's in the very front of it, and the thing just opens up and he throws up the peace sign and smiles at us, heads back down.
It's just so funny.
[00:31:08] Speaker B: Memory I have, but it's like, my favorite memory from the cruise. Metcalf is just peasing us on the stun, the elevators. Yeah.
[00:31:13] Speaker C: I'm never gonna forget Eric Metcalf, but.
[00:31:17] Speaker B: Anyways, yeah, just like, I mean, you're walking around the shops, down, like, the main promenade inside the ship. I mean, you just run into guys, they recognize you. Like, I had several guys just, like, grab me on his shoulder, be like, hey, man, what's going on? How you doing today?
[00:31:28] Speaker D: I feel like I ran into Webster slaughter every morning at the coffee shop. He, like, came right after I got my coffee. He'd be in line getting it, and it was just like, well, that's what's.
[00:31:36] Speaker B: Funny, is like, this cruise ship is so big, but it's also, like, there's.
[00:31:39] Speaker C: Also its own little places to go.
[00:31:41] Speaker B: So coffee or in a pool or you're, you know, some of the guys got together and, like, played basketball in the mornings and stuff. Like, those were the sessions that we.
[00:31:51] Speaker C: Didn'T really get to the sports sessions in the morning that I wish we would have got tomorrow.
[00:31:54] Speaker B: Well, we were sleeping because we were.
[00:31:56] Speaker C: Yeah, we were up to.
[00:31:57] Speaker B: Here's the thing that I didn't recognize, realized about the cruise, really, until we were on a cruise.
[00:32:00] Speaker C: Oh, day two was the dance party, too, wasn't it?
[00:32:04] Speaker B: Was a day two or day.
[00:32:06] Speaker C: I think it was day two.
[00:32:07] Speaker B: I think it's day two might have been because we were. Because we were preparing for day three.
[00:32:11] Speaker C: Day two is dance party. Frank stamps dancing with his. Rolling around on the floor with his grandson.
[00:32:15] Speaker B: Yeah, and that. And it got pretty lit up there.
Started kind of slow sound like. But then Bridget got out and was just leading line dancing, and all sudden this thing got lit and there was just guys out there. It's just drinking hands, just kicking it with the fans, and it was just dope.
[00:32:31] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:32:32] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:32:32] Speaker D: Her and the DJ had a differing of opinion on what music should be played.
[00:32:36] Speaker C: The DJ wasn't playing very good music. And Bridget Linton. Bridget Linton knows how to get the fans going.
[00:32:41] Speaker B: Well, I think she knew the heart of what Browns fans needed to get going. And you probably get different, like, demographics on a cruise ship. Yeah. But anyway, so I just think the one thing that I didn't even realize kind of getting onto the cruise ship was cruise life goes hard and long.
[00:33:01] Speaker C: No pun intended.
[00:33:02] Speaker B: I mean, like, that dance party went to, like, I don't. 130 in the morning or something. And then, like, after that, I want you went out to the bars in the casino, and we're like, gambling and stuff.
[00:33:10] Speaker C: Oh. And then. And then day three, what we were preparing for.
[00:33:13] Speaker B: So that's what I was getting to. So it was like, every night, it was almost like there was something that was going on to where even if it was just like, after dinner, after second or third dinner, fourth dinner, like, all of a sudden you realize you're like, it's midnight, and we gotta be able, like, six to, like, just start getting prepped for our show or the things that we were doing with the alumni and stuff. So, like, the days were long for us, and we weren't even staying up till two or three every night in a casino like Gary Barnard, I wouldn't.
[00:33:40] Speaker C: Have made it because Gary Barnage, losing a bunch of money in the casino.
[00:33:44] Speaker B: And for you and I specifically bunked together, we'd get back from all the events at night. It's midnight, 1230, and we're just keyed up from the day, so you can't even go to bed once you get words.
[00:33:54] Speaker C: And all my best ideas hit me at night, so I'm, like, thinking of all these things for the next. I can't go to sleep right now.
[00:33:59] Speaker B: Yeah, we did a fair amount of just planning for the next day in bed at night. Cause that was the only time we kind of had time to do it, so. But just in general, like, cruise life goes till all hours of the night. And they had that pizza shop open till three or four in the morning. I mean, you're in a casino or drinking and a little bit of Vegas. Yeah, a lot like Vegas. And then you go get smashed, like, a half a pizza right before bed at two in the morning and get to go for the next day. So, anyway, back to, like, day three.
[00:34:25] Speaker C: Day three was a cruise day.
Cruise day.
[00:34:28] Speaker B: And that's the day we had the big event in the auditorium.
[00:34:31] Speaker C: Yep. The. They called it what they call it a town hall or what they call it. They call it breakout session. Breakout. Breakout session. So Bridget hosted the first one. She was able to. She basically interviewed and asked questions of six of the alumni. I think it was six. Might have been eight. I don't know several of the alumni.
And she was asking them about, like, their life leading up to being with.
[00:34:56] Speaker B: The Cleveland college and, like, background. Yep, yep.
[00:34:58] Speaker C: And then we got to take the middle section. We took the stage, and that was a lot of fun. We were able to.
[00:35:05] Speaker B: We had a lot of alumni on stage.
[00:35:07] Speaker C: We had eight.
[00:35:07] Speaker B: So we had a fair half of them. We were basically lucky to kind of get through one interview question with each of them, because, as we found out, once you put a mic in these guys hands, they just get going. They're just hard to turn off.
So you'd ask one guy a question, and then it would kind of ping pong back and forth between three guys that also had a similar story.
[00:35:26] Speaker C: Well, and you learned some. Some funny things, too. So, like, they'll start, like you're saying. They'll. They start talking. And then, like, we learned, for example, like, there's a famous story out there of Webster Slaughter and how he was recruited by. By Paul Warfield. And we find out during this whole.
[00:35:41] Speaker B: Story in the middle of the auditorium, everybody.
[00:35:43] Speaker C: Yeah. When Paul Warfield came to recruit Webster Slaughter, he had no idea who Paul Warfield was. Absolutely no idea.
So, like, stuff like that comes out. You just. You hear it and you're like, no shit, really?
[00:35:59] Speaker B: I mean. I mean, look, the interviews you do with these guys. I mean, the stories that we heard just in, those were incredible. And then to have a second chance, a second go at these guys, to dig even deeper and ask some of the same questions, just even for the fans that hear, may not have heard our interviews, but to hear them kind of take it a whole level deeper. And, I mean, I think one of the most striking moments for me during that whole Q and A was, you know, we had talked to Reggie Langhorne during our one on one with him, and he had mentioned the story about Kevin getting his teeth kind of messed up and kind of. We put him on the spot with that during the Q and A.
[00:36:33] Speaker C: He wasn't ready for it.
[00:36:34] Speaker B: He wasn't. Yeah. I mean, he was like, that's not really one of my fondest memory. Like, we thought it was this great story about, like, determination and grit and, like, how tough these assholes were, like, way back in the eighties, and they're wrecking everybody.
He was like, I don't really like to tell that story. He kind of got almost choked up a bit, but, like, he ended up like a champion. He went after it, told the whole story. And I was teaching. He's got knocked down fixed afterward.
[00:36:55] Speaker C: Then they just started talking about all their crazy football injuries, right?
[00:36:58] Speaker B: And then they were all like, why was I, bro, Metcalf's fingers are all broken their own way.
[00:37:03] Speaker C: Yeah.
It's wild watching it. If you just watch Eric Metcalf hold up his hand, his ring finger, I think it's on his right hand, is literally, like, sideways.
[00:37:11] Speaker B: Like, this thing is dislocated so many times.
So, yeah, I mean, just incredible. Good audience, too, during that whole thing.
[00:37:19] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Fans were great.
[00:37:20] Speaker B: It was just a lot of fun. And then kind of continue with some more Q and A. Bridget had another session with a smaller group talking about life after football. And then they did some trivia things and games where I think at every session, they threw prizes out to the crowd.
[00:37:33] Speaker C: When you mentioned trivia, the trivia actually went on throughout the entire cruise.
And we'll talk about this in a minute. But they did the trivia finals on the last day of the pre auditorium. Yeah.
But anyway, so that was day three. That was the big draw on day three.
[00:37:47] Speaker B: But real quick, just. So they were doing the. They were throwing away, like, throwing away. Throwing little rubber balls and stuff, like giveaways.
And our good friend Robert.
[00:37:56] Speaker C: Robert Hamilton. The Naples Brownsbackers.
[00:37:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
Who were the chapter of the year.
His streak of luck continued because he had the special ball that was thrown at him, and he ended up getting a Denzel Ward signed autograph jersey out of the whole dope ass. So, like, yeah, it just. I just can't put it into the context for fans that, like, they really didn't think about it or, like. Or maybe you want to go on the next one. Like, how cool this event was just for Browns fans.
[00:38:23] Speaker C: We're just getting started, man. The next day was the Bahamas beach party.
[00:38:27] Speaker B: Jamaican beach party.
[00:38:28] Speaker C: Jamaica beach party. Yeah, my bad. Bahamas was first time at the beach when we went to shore, but Jamaica, we had a beach party there. We were lucky enough to get our own cabana where we were able to do interviews.
[00:38:40] Speaker B: Basically did show you just interview at your interview with ten or eleven guys stopped by.
[00:38:45] Speaker C: But what was going on during that, while we were interviewing a lot of these alumni, is there was games where basically there was four teams of fans, and each team got four captains that were the Browns alumni. And so you had four alumni to each team. And you guys, they competed, they played volleyball. They had, like, a target competition with the football. They did an obstacle course out there on the water, which nobody finished. All these superior athletes thought they was.
[00:39:16] Speaker B: One of the funniest things that happened on a whole cruise was. Cause some of these guys are younger, right? I mean, they're like our age.
[00:39:22] Speaker C: Gary came in and did our interview, and he said. We said, oh, you.
[00:39:25] Speaker B: Gary's in great shape, right? Gary would beat your ass.
[00:39:29] Speaker C: I specifically asked if. I said, you think you still got it, huh? He goes, oh, you never lose it.
[00:39:33] Speaker B: I mean, Gary was one of the few guys who was like, anywhere he could take you to take a shirt off, he would.
[00:39:37] Speaker C: But here, Gary, don't beat my ass for this. But spoiler alert, Gary did not finish, and he came in dead last. He was. He got his ass beat by that. The only thing that can defeat Gary Barnage is the obstacle course. Is the obstacle course on the water.
[00:39:52] Speaker B: In Jamaica and the amazing race.
[00:39:53] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:39:54] Speaker B: So, yeah, that was hilarious. Cause you had a lot of these guys that still felt like, I'm in good shape, even though I'm a little older. And you had a lot of you guys that were the younger guys that were for, like, more modern era players, and they all just got their ass kicked by that thing. Oh, yeah.
[00:40:07] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. But, yeah, a lot of good times on the beach in Jamaica. Those guys were out in the sun all day, hanging out with fans. I think that was actually another. Besides the dinners, that was, like, where people could get the closest with the alumni.
[00:40:19] Speaker B: Yeah, it was very cool. Because they had essentially a private beach for just the browns fans to go to, kind of secluded from the rest of the resort. That was, like, just our area, which was neat. Served as a good lunch. We had some kind of chicken and fish.
[00:40:34] Speaker C: We had jerk chicken.
[00:40:36] Speaker B: Jerk chicken. And some kind of fried fish, too. Right?
[00:40:39] Speaker D: Fish is good.
[00:40:40] Speaker B: I think it was a white fish.
[00:40:41] Speaker C: Yeah. I don't remember what fish it was. It was a white fish, but it was good.
[00:40:44] Speaker B: Fry.
[00:40:44] Speaker D: Rice and beans. Yeah, a little salad or something like that.
[00:40:47] Speaker B: Yeah, that was very, very cool.
[00:40:49] Speaker C: Some sort of delicious punch.
[00:40:51] Speaker B: Yeah, the punch was good. We tried to get more in there. Like, it's like $80 a gallon.
[00:40:56] Speaker C: This is the best punch in the world.
[00:40:57] Speaker B: We sent our other crew guy to go get it, and they were like, yeah, we can do that. He's there. Like. But we had to pay for it. He was like, no, yeah. I think it was literally gonna be, like, $65 for him to buy that on the resort.
[00:41:08] Speaker C: You gotta buy it by the ten gallon bucket.
[00:41:10] Speaker B: Yeah. They only serve it in a jug.
[00:41:12] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:41:13] Speaker B: But, yeah, that was great.
We had great weather that day, too. I mean, it was just beautiful. I mean, you think about the Browns cruise and just, like, being in paradise. Like, absolute paradise. We were in the crystal clear blue water with Josh Cribbs doing an interview right out in the middle of the ocean.
[00:41:30] Speaker C: Yep. You guys will like that one. We literally did an interview with Josh.
[00:41:34] Speaker B: Cribs in the ocean, and the players had a great time. Even though a lot of them accused Josh Cribbs of cheating, there was a.
[00:41:40] Speaker C: Lot of finger pointing with cheating. It was like that Spider man name where everybody.
[00:41:43] Speaker D: They took the competition pretty serious.
[00:41:46] Speaker C: They really did.
But no, like I said, I just thought of one thing besides I said that in the dinners, you also. Every night, the players were up at the pool deck getting drinks at the sky lounge or whatever it was called. And that was another time where if you were. If you were a night owl, you could go up there. And especially the.
Some people from, like, the. The eighties, nineties era, like Eric Metcalf. And those guys were, you know, they were in there. They were up there every single night, smoking cigars, having a few drinks, and they were just talking to anybody that wanted to come talk to them.
[00:42:19] Speaker B: I mean, you could almost just sit up there and just be a fly on the wall.
[00:42:22] Speaker C: The things you heard were, I remember at least three times distinctly, and I'm not going to tell the stories here for them, but where I went up there just to grab a drink. And I was like, man, the things these guys are talking about are just wild. Like what?
You know, incredible. But to round things out, day five, there was another session in the theater where they actually, again, picked teams. There was four different teams.
You had captains, and you had to dress your captains up as different things.
[00:42:54] Speaker B: They had a couple different, like. Yeah. Exercises where they were doing interactive things with the players to win points or whatever. And then they also finished out trivia there in the auditorium that day.
So. Yeah, that again. And the autograph signings. They had four different autograph signings. Where do you have our book of just the bones?
[00:43:11] Speaker C: Got it. Show it in.
[00:43:12] Speaker B: Show.
So this was really cool because rather than having to bring all your own stuff, they had color prints of all the players, and you would kind of stop at each station and they'd kind of give you a couple minutes of, hey, here's how you doing this and that, and then they design a colored print for you. And the fan cruise provided an album to put them all in. So really cool. I mean, that was not something that cost, like, any extra to do. It's all part of the inclusive package.
[00:43:38] Speaker C: And they were gracious enough to, you know, we. They came to our station, our remote.
[00:43:44] Speaker B: Studio, if you will, in Jamaica.
[00:43:46] Speaker C: In Jamaica. And in our actual studio on the cruise ship, and they signed our flag here. So this is everybody that was on the Browns fan cruise 2024.
[00:43:55] Speaker B: Including chomps.
[00:43:57] Speaker C: Including chomps.
[00:43:58] Speaker B: We had an interview with him in Jamaica, and Bridget wasn't very good.
[00:44:00] Speaker C: And Bridget down there, so.
[00:44:03] Speaker B: Mister Mc Bridget Linton. Yeah, we got everybody, and so we.
[00:44:07] Speaker C: Actually signed this thing.
[00:44:09] Speaker B: Right. Speaking of Bridget, we have an interview. Come up with her later in the show. That is really awesome. Can talk about just the fan crews in general.
What's really funny is, like, we're just all.
[00:44:19] Speaker C: We were all local.
[00:44:20] Speaker B: Like, we didn't know each other until we got on this cruise, and then we all found out that, like, we grew up together. So it was interesting.
[00:44:26] Speaker C: But, yeah, I mean, so, overall, let's just wrap this thing up. We've talked about the fan cruise for a while because it was just so damn fun.
I mean, it favor so many memories. What's a short time?
[00:44:38] Speaker B: What's one pro and one con from just cruising in general? Because that was a lot of our. That was all of our first cruise, right?
[00:44:44] Speaker C: Yeah, pro for me. Are we talking this cruise specifically or just cruises in general?
[00:44:50] Speaker B: I was in just the cruise in general.
[00:44:53] Speaker C: Just cruises in general. The fact that I could eat whenever I wanted to was awesome. Like, there was no schedule. I was just like, I'm gonna go eat something. And that was.
[00:45:02] Speaker B: It was especially critical for us because we were. We were busy, like, trying to run to event to event and get. Get pictures of this event or get some film of this event, because there was just a ton of things going on all the time that even, like, the ones we weren't involved in, we still wanted to be able to, like, bring back and share some of the things that were going on. So for us to just be able to pop in and out and get food, whatever we want was pretty.
[00:45:21] Speaker C: I have two cons. One I'm gonna talk about later during. During. Dander up.
Get your dander up. But the other one I'll say is just, this is me personally, I get a little bit of motion sickness, and I actually was lucky enough not to get it too much on the ship.
But I've done a lot of reading about this, and if you're prone to migraines, like I am, motion sickness and certain disorders related to motion sickness happen to you more often. And so when we got off the ship, I had, quote unquote sea legs for, like, five days.
[00:46:01] Speaker B: You're kind of moving a little bit.
[00:46:02] Speaker C: I would, like, bend over, and I'm like, oh, God. Ships moving. Jack Sparrow in my house. And, yeah, it was awful. And, like, I texted bone, and bone was like, mine went away after the first night's sleep or whatever it was. And I'm like, I'm like, five days later, what the. What the hell's going on, man? So if you. If you're prone to migraines, just something to be aware of when you come back.
[00:46:21] Speaker B: Fair.
[00:46:22] Speaker C: What about you guys? Pros, cons.
[00:46:24] Speaker D: I like the atmosphere. Like, at the kind of. In the night when we had fourth dinner at the pizza shop, we're just like, there's so many people around. There's so much going on. People are just.
There's live bands, live music, and you're just kind of sitting there eating pizza.
[00:46:37] Speaker C: And we're doing from, like, Vegas is. It was, like, family friendly fun. It wasn't, like, crazy fun that you.
[00:46:42] Speaker B: Could definitely take your kids on a cruise like that and have a lot of fun.
[00:46:45] Speaker D: Oh, there's tons of kids getting pizza. This kid backed into me and he said, I'm sorry. And I'm like, I'm like, it's no big deal. And then I looked at him like, don't let it happen again.
He turns his head around at me like that, and I was like, I'm just messing around, man. It's just fun, you know? But con. Yeah, con. Itty bitty toilets.
[00:47:06] Speaker B: Itty bitty toilets.
[00:47:07] Speaker C: There were small toilets on the cruise. That's a good point.
[00:47:10] Speaker B: Kenny prose, do you have a favorite memory bone? We did a lot of talking there.
[00:47:14] Speaker D: But, oh, man, probably when I walked into this. The bathroom, I'll tell this story. So imagine two stalls that are hoping for.
[00:47:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:47:24] Speaker D: So if you're peeing in a urinal, I'll say you're back to back with whoever you're peeing with, I guess.
[00:47:30] Speaker C: In this specific restroom.
[00:47:31] Speaker D: In this specific restroom, up on the top deck by the pool, I walk in, we're hot tubbing that night. I don't have a shirt on. John Hughes is in there using the restroom. He's gonna pee in the urinal, right? He's got a shirt on. But I go back to back with John Hughes. So I'm sitting there peeing, and I say out loud, back to back with John Hughes. That's what I'm talking about. And he kind of laughed, and I laughed, and he goes and washes his hands, and then he said something to me on the way out, you know? Cause he recognized me from the podcast and stuff. So it was friendly, but it was just kind of funny.
[00:48:05] Speaker C: John Hughes is a good dude.
[00:48:06] Speaker D: Yeah, he was cool. He was really.
[00:48:07] Speaker B: You have a couple of drinks than you at that point on that day, didn't you? Yeah.
[00:48:10] Speaker D: I probably normally wouldn't talk to somebody while you were here, but I don't really know. But it was all in good fun.
[00:48:17] Speaker C: Bold strategy, and it definitely paid off for you, Cotton.
[00:48:19] Speaker B: Yeah, that was so funny.
[00:48:22] Speaker C: Kenny, what about you?
[00:48:24] Speaker B: Yeah, look, I just thought the experience, start to finish, was something that was.
[00:48:32] Speaker C: Everybody should go on a cruise.
[00:48:32] Speaker B: There's so much to do.
And I wrestled back and forth with this all week long, thinking about, would I take my own family on a cruise? Is there enough to keep you busy? But honestly, like, thinking about the whole package you get, especially on this Browns fan cruise with all the alumni and everything was going on. I mean, insane. We didn't even talk about some of, like, the events and stuff. We went to a comedy show the one night. Bowen went to grease playing the one night. I mean, endless activities and things. Just, like, the value of it, I think, was a huge pro in general.
My big con was, and admittedly, I'm a bigger guy, but to Bowen's point, itty bitty toilets. Even in my own room, I had to stand halfway in the shower to. Just to take a leak. Like, I was in the shower. 1ft in, 1ft out, 1ft in. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, I should just pee in the shower. That would have been easier.
Funny enough about that. When I'm thinking about Bone and John Hughes in that urinal.
We were in the same urinal, like, the day before, and I left, I was like, I'm not peeing back to back with you. I had to pee so bad.
So the thing about, like, big John Hughes.
[00:49:44] Speaker C: Big John Hughes is so much bigger than either of us.
[00:49:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Just back to back.
[00:49:50] Speaker C: Oh, man, it's great. Yeah.
[00:49:53] Speaker D: They tell my grandkids that story.
[00:49:55] Speaker B: So funny.
[00:49:56] Speaker C: No, but all in all, every. Every bit worth the investment. If you. If, you know the next one comes around and you were on the fence for this one, definitely sign up for the next one. You're not gonna have a bad time. It's gonna be phenomenal.
[00:50:11] Speaker B: I didn't hear a single person go.
[00:50:13] Speaker C: Like, as a matter of fact, I overwhelmingly like comments. Just out in the open just all the time was, wow, this is fantastic. I can't believe we're doing that.
[00:50:23] Speaker B: People were like, this is. I would do this every year. Like, they should do three of these. Like, these are awesome. Yeah, so, yeah, I mean, like, that was cool for us as browns fans hearing that, but, like, it was also just, like, like, validation that, like, this whole. This whole event is just is and was super cool, but it wasn't just like.
[00:50:41] Speaker C: And seaside worked hard.
[00:50:42] Speaker B: Seaside worked hard. They were, they've been a great partner for this whole thing. Put on a ton of great events. So, you know, we're looking forward to hopefully being able to continue to work with them for next year's fan cruise, and we'll go from there. But, I mean, this one was an absolute banger.
Fun to be had all around. I know the players were like, I could do this for two weeks.
[00:51:02] Speaker C: Yeah, that's what, at the end of it, you started asking them, and you would think they would all say, like, nah, I'm pretty checked out, like.
[00:51:08] Speaker B: Cause some of those guys are older than some of the other ones and.
[00:51:11] Speaker C: Their schedule was full.
[00:51:12] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, they were busy.
[00:51:14] Speaker C: However, to your point, almost every single one of them said, let's keep this thing going, man.
[00:51:18] Speaker B: And they really did enjoy, I think, the interaction with the fans. It wasn't like, like, I think we kind of, like, if you see a football player and you're out to dinner, like, you kind of get like that. I don't want to bother them. Like, they're on their own time. Like, I heard Josh cribs and some of these guys say, like, no, like, we're here for you. Like, this, like, this event wouldn't go on if this wasn't for fans, especially early on.
[00:51:39] Speaker C: I remember the first couple days, they were stressing that to everybody. Like, come talk to me, come see me.
[00:51:43] Speaker B: They wanted to tell their stories and take photos and assign autographs and things. And, you know, it was very, very cool all the way around. So, yeah, if you have a chance, you know, next year, I don't know. We know they've made the announcement and there's some information out there. I don't know, like the ticket portal or anything's open yet, but my guess.
[00:52:02] Speaker C: Is that it'll be open soon.
[00:52:03] Speaker B: It's, when it's open, you're gonna wanna keep your eye on it because it'll go fast. It's gonna go faster than last year's. Cause people now know and have been there.
[00:52:11] Speaker C: Wait till you start seeing, I mean, we've posted some and they're gonna keep posting more. Wait till you start seeing some of these photos, some of these videos that are coming out from this thing. Like it was, you know, we're talking it up right now, but I think we're actually underselling this thing.
[00:52:24] Speaker B: I mean, I can't over, I can't undersell or oversell just the awesomeness that was having 3rd, fourth and fifth dinner every night. I mean, that was like, forget about everything else.
[00:52:34] Speaker C: We just want 3rd, fourth and fifth dinner.
[00:52:36] Speaker B: We would have dinner with Brown's fans at five. And then, like the rest of the night, we would just have endless dinner. We would go to the buffet until the buffet closed.
[00:52:43] Speaker C: Like, that was where we did most of our work and we just keep eating.
[00:52:46] Speaker B: When a buffet closed at nine, we would head down to the pizza shop and sit, listen to the music and eat pizza and drink there. And then one of those. If you need a coffee, go get a crap, grab a coffee and a cookie, whatever.
[00:52:58] Speaker C: Bottom line, so much food. Browns fan cruise 2021 was phenomenal. Browns fan cruise 2025 is going to be just as lit, so make sure you keep an eye out.
[00:53:07] Speaker B: Absolutely. I want to go back. I'm ready right now.
[00:53:10] Speaker C: Let's go. And next up is the burning river rundown.
All right, so Jimmy and D. Haslam confirmed at the NFL owners meeting this week that extensions for Andrew Barry and Kevin Stefanski are both very close.
Not really news. I guess we kind of knew this was coming. We've been talking about it for weeks.
You kind of have to give them the extension at this point, but just. It was the first time that we got confirmation from ownership that, yes, they are going to get extensions. It's just a matter of if or. It's just a matter of when, not if.
[00:53:49] Speaker B: To your point, like, we know this is coming based on success of the team. I mean, is it relative success? Yes, but compared to the last 20 years, this is the most success the browns have ever had in our lifetime. So it has to be done. It'll be interesting to see what the details are that come out. Are they getting two year extensions, four year extensions? What are they worth?
[00:54:11] Speaker C: That's where we differed. I said four years.
[00:54:13] Speaker B: You said two years, comparatively to what the rest of the league is paying their admins in front office.
[00:54:19] Speaker C: Fair. So we'll see. Like you said, nothing really to report on it this time, just that it's happening.
We'll be able to cover the details once it comes out. But they also. This is kind of the bigger news to me. They also discussed the possible move of the stadium to Brook park, and they went into detail on this, which was pretty eye opening. They told reporters that there are currently only two options for the stadium. Option one, they renovate the current stadium at a cost of approximately $1 billion. No dome. Just renovate the current stadium as is.
Option two is they explore building a new domed stadium on the 176 acre site in Brook park at a cost of approximately $2 billion.
They emphatically stated that a domed stadium in downtown Cleveland is not an option. And they also stated that they hope to have a definitive decision within one to two years.
And when they talked about it, they said, we're open mind, open minded. As far as either of those options, they have no preference, one or the other. As far as domed versus not domed, it's just there's not going to be a dome in downtown Cleveland that'll be in Brook park, or they're going to renovate the current stadium at a cost of approximately a billion dollars. So, I mean, what are your guys thoughts on the two options that have been laid out here?
[00:55:37] Speaker D: I kind of like the idea of the dome stadium in Brook park. New and shiny. Yeah, I wonder, is, like, the weather just off the lake a problem for having a dome?
[00:55:48] Speaker B: Like, I wonder if it's more to do with the structural integrity of, like, the foundation.
[00:55:52] Speaker C: And that's kind of what I'm saying.
[00:55:53] Speaker B: Is, like, they're probably, like, architecture. Probably like, you probably would have to rebuild the stadium because you think about it.
[00:56:00] Speaker C: Right? You think about it. And so if it's a billion dollars to renovate the current stadium, no dome, it's probably at least 2 billion to renovate it. It. With the dome, because you've got to reinforce everything, do everything. At that point, you're thinking, like, why would we. Why would we redo this stadium at $2 billion when we could just build a brand new one for $2 billion? That doesn't make sense.
[00:56:19] Speaker B: Yeah, because you'd have to basically, you probably almost have to level that building. I mean, basically, we're leveling it. So if you're trying to figure out, if you're trying to make a cost benefit of, like, two things that make sense, like this. This does, I think, option one, certainly for the.
[00:56:35] Speaker C: For the businesses downtown, in the length.
[00:56:37] Speaker D: Of time to do that, the Browns would have to play somewhere else, probably for a season.
[00:56:42] Speaker B: True.
[00:56:42] Speaker D: Right?
[00:56:42] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:56:44] Speaker B: Fortunately, like, we do have some good stadiums in northeast Ohio. And, I mean, even, like, Columbus maybe is an option play down the shoe. That might be cool first season, but I do think that this kind of satisfies, like, the. Maybe the. And I don't even know if it's like, if this is truly a demographic thing at this point, but, like, the older, like, purists of the game that won't want football played in the elements. Okay, we can. We have an option for that versus, like, new age guys, people that, you know, are more interested in things that are accompanying the game, the restaurants and the food and things for, you know, having childcare on set, like, all those things that are important in today's world that are built in all these new stadiums. You could have that in Brook park, too. So I do think it makes sense that they've at least narrowed it down to these two. When you think about Brown Stadium in 1997 and 98, it cost $283 million to build. Adjusted for inflation, it's about $490 million is the actual cost of the stadium. So a billion dollar renovation is substantial. Substantial, yeah. I mean, it's basically going to be a new stadium. Yeah.
[00:57:52] Speaker C: It will be unrecognizable. That I can guarantee. If you're putting a billion dollars into it, you won't know it's the current stadium.
[00:57:59] Speaker B: And so I think either option is. Probably will end up being very cool. I think the question is just, do you want to have that dome? And, um, look, I think we've talked about there's some events now, just this year that are going to be happening. Downtown concerts. They're bringing SummerSlam so, um, you know, if they decide, hey, even a billion dollar renovation to the stadium offers enough flexibility for us to do more concerts and bring in large events, then maybe they just keep it downtown, because there's still a funding question. There's still a funding question of a billion dollars to $2 billion.
Is the city going to pitch in?
[00:58:36] Speaker C: But then it goes back to your initial thought, as if it's the 176 acres the haslam is on. Everything.
[00:58:42] Speaker B: Well, right. Which is why they may be willing to bite the bullet on 2 billion there. But if the city says, hey, we'll put forth half of your billion dollar renovations, keep your stadium in downtown Cleveland, the Haslams go.
[00:58:52] Speaker C: Money now, money later.
[00:58:53] Speaker B: That sounds pretty good. I mean, how old is Jimmy? Not that I'm, like, wishing death upon him, but how long are they going to be, you know, around and want to run the Browns?
They're certainly older.
[00:59:07] Speaker C: Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, it's definitely interesting. I would say I'm with bone on this. You know, my hope was that we'd get a dome in downtown Cleveland. But since that's not an option anymore, I like. I like brand new dome in Brook park. Because here's the thing, is a lot of dome.
Yeah, I see you. Cheesecake factory.
No. A lot of these NFL teams, this is what they're going to, is they. They pick a suburb of their home city and that's where they build at, because it's just easier. And it. Honestly, it makes, like, traffic flow and like, everything else, so much easier. Getting in and out of the game, because you're not going through downtown traffic.
[00:59:49] Speaker B: Is the worst part of the Browns game.
[00:59:52] Speaker C: Yeah. And so you have all that going for you. It's going to be brand new.
I know that they've started to do other things, but you'll be able to have it open year round. And here's the thing. Thing. They build a brand new stadium, a brand new dome in Brook park. You know how mad. You know. You know how long people will be mad for? Approximately 20 minutes. Like. Like, once it's open and people walk into it, they're gonna be like, this is pretty dope.
[01:00:17] Speaker B: I do still think it's a weird visual. Like, when Monday Night Football's there and they're, like, panning out to see, and it's just. There's. There's nothing in the brown stadium.
[01:00:26] Speaker C: Well, they'll do what they do with a lot of the Monday night football games, and they show pictures of downtown, like, overlaid with the stadium. Like, they show that they show, like.
[01:00:34] Speaker B: Like, Arlington is close enough to Dallas. Like, you can kind of see. So.
[01:00:40] Speaker C: We'Re coming to the airport. You have you flown? So you could. You could see dads, like, right over there with a camera. If you're panning out and you look over, you can still see all the skyscrapers.
[01:00:50] Speaker B: We'll see. I just think that. I think it's interesting regardless, you know?
[01:00:55] Speaker C: I mean, they might itty bitty, but.
[01:00:56] Speaker B: I'm in favor of both options. I think the other.
I think the other thing, that if.
If the Browns really are going to stay downtown, man, I would almost like the city planning commission to be like, how can we address traffic?
[01:01:13] Speaker C: How can we address traffic? I want to see that land bridge happen, because that was phenomenal.
[01:01:18] Speaker B: Can we add lanes, like, coming in and out there on, what is that, 90? Like, I don't know. Could you invest $100 million in.
[01:01:26] Speaker C: And that's the problem with infrastructure. There's no space to really do any of that stuff because they're already kind of on top of each other there, so.
[01:01:33] Speaker B: Yeah, true. I mean, you got Berkeley front airport there, eating up nothing. There's there for, like, no reason.
[01:01:40] Speaker C: True. But what does that really do? That only gives you lanes over there, though. That does it. They have to stop somewhere because you don't have that space where the stadium is.
[01:01:46] Speaker B: It's kind of helped a little, right? I don't know. I'm not a city planning guy. I'm just saying I would like to create a funnel. I'm just saying I would like to see the. The brown. The city. Like, if you're gonna make a full pitch to stay in the city, like.
[01:01:59] Speaker C: Embrace it and really develop that and.
[01:02:01] Speaker B: Make infrastructure should be a part of the deal, because. Because if they do move to Burp park, like you said, this can be Haslam land. It would be. I mean, look at what they're doing to the pro Football hall of fame.
[01:02:10] Speaker C: It'd be Jerry world, but it'd be Haslem land.
[01:02:12] Speaker B: I mean, it'd be Haslam. You got a roller coaster.
[01:02:14] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:02:15] Speaker B: All kinds of stuff over there. Then it would have a cool visual. You know, you pan out as Haslam land.
[01:02:20] Speaker C: I like it.
[01:02:21] Speaker B: There's a pilot flying j right in the middle.
[01:02:22] Speaker C: That's it. I've completely switched. I don't even care about, like, the. Like. Like, we're getting a dome stadium. I want Haslam land.
[01:02:28] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:02:29] Speaker D: Put, like, a Ferris wheel there. Biggest Ferris wheel in the world.
[01:02:31] Speaker B: This is a. It's a. It's like, an open air fair open all year long.
[01:02:36] Speaker C: Yeah, I like it. Next up here, though, we do have to move on. The Browns have hired Mike Vrabel as a personnel consultant. Love this move.
[01:02:44] Speaker B: I love the move as well.
[01:02:46] Speaker C: I thought you were going to go the other way, but I accept.
[01:02:48] Speaker B: Well, where I'm the other way is. It was surprised. It was shocking.
[01:02:52] Speaker C: It was out of nowhere.
[01:02:53] Speaker B: Because if you're Kevin Stefanski, all of a sudden, like, you're surrounded by head coaches, real sharks around you, like, guys that. That are our real head coaches. I mean, he doesn't care.
[01:03:07] Speaker C: He's getting an extension.
[01:03:08] Speaker B: I know, but, you know, money's money in the NFL, and if he has a bad start to this year, that extension won't mean shit. Especially mike variable hanging around headquarters.
[01:03:17] Speaker C: And Jim Hasbro.
[01:03:19] Speaker B: Jim shorts hanging around headquarters.
[01:03:20] Speaker C: $2 billion on a stadium. He's probably willing to eat the cost.
[01:03:24] Speaker B: Of your six year, $6 million extension. Yeah.
[01:03:26] Speaker C: Great.
[01:03:27] Speaker B: No big deal.
[01:03:28] Speaker D: I feel like Schwartz has kind of settled into just being a defense. Have an Albert Frable man. He's young, and.
[01:03:34] Speaker B: And he's.
[01:03:35] Speaker D: He's gonna want another shot.
[01:03:36] Speaker B: A hungry, ambitious guy.
[01:03:38] Speaker C: Well, and that's why it's kind of a weird move, too, because, like, you can't say, like, they're grooming him to take over. Cause Kevin Stefanski's only, like, 40, so, like, you can't.
[01:03:48] Speaker B: Well, yeah, but I'm thinking, though, like, Stefanski's like.
[01:03:51] Speaker C: You know what I mean?
[01:03:52] Speaker B: There's a totally different ideology. Right? Because variable played. Yeah, like, variables. I mean, one of the best at his position ever. And it's like, you have a totally different guy that when we think about. What's the question? What's the question always been about Kevin Stefanski? He's not a rah rah guy. He can't get players motivated to play. He's schematically good. We trust in the fact that he can develop an offense. We trust in the fact that they give it up. Quarterbacks. But, like, when the chips are down and you need somebody to go in the locker room and kick everybody's ass, rabel's that kind of guy that kicks everybody's ass.
[01:04:22] Speaker C: Hey, Mike, can you come down from the box? We have to. We have to really heavy.
[01:04:26] Speaker B: But if I'm Mike variable, I'm saying, and I'm not coming down from the box until you meet me, the head coach. Like, I'll. I'll talk to your players during the week and help you plan things, but, like, I'm not giving that speech. I'm not getting paid for it.
[01:04:36] Speaker D: Kevin, you are now the offensive coordinator and Mike frable is head coach.
[01:04:39] Speaker B: Yeah. Kevin, pack your bag. So that's the only thing that strange me. Cause Varl is not a type b personality kind of guy. I mean, variable is a very outward there, outspoken. Like, he's a. He's a rah rah dude.
[01:04:53] Speaker C: So in my opinion, I mean, regardless of what the future holds, I think this is a very good move short term, because Mike grable, I don't care what role he's in the front office and, like, doing things for the team. He's a valuable asset to have on your side. And my personal opinion, I think it's going to be short lived. I think he's going to find a new gig somewhere else sooner rather than later. But it's awesome for the time that.
[01:05:18] Speaker B: We have, everybody needs a paycheck, and when he didn't get picked up for one of the other jobs, you got to go somewhere.
[01:05:24] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:05:25] Speaker B: A little interesting that he came here and didn't go to, like, New England or somewhere.
He's Ohio State guy, but he is an Ohio state guy, so, yeah, he is family. Tyson and Columbus doesn't. Sure.
[01:05:34] Speaker D: Went to Walsh Jesuit.
[01:05:35] Speaker B: That's right. He'd go to Walsh. Yeah. So that's true. Northeast Ohio kind of makes sense. Probably was a Browns fan in between jobs.
[01:05:42] Speaker C: Maybe not. It was. When we don't really have a team.
[01:05:44] Speaker B: I think that it's. In 99% of cases, it's good to have as much talent in the building as possible.
[01:05:50] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:05:51] Speaker B: With coaches, the only thing I worry about is that you sometimes end up with too many cooks in the kitchen. Like, everybody's a chief and not enough Indians. You know, like too many strong personalities trying to run things and not enough people saying, yes, yes, sir, we'll take care of that. Like, that's probably fair. I don't know. We'll see what happens, though.
[01:06:10] Speaker C: Yep. Next up, the Browns have re signed safety Rodney Mcleod. Great depth piece. Well, he's actually. No, he was the. He's the.
[01:06:17] Speaker B: He's like a quasi starter. I mean, he was. I think he's a guy is going to play. He plays significant down.
[01:06:22] Speaker C: He got to play a lot because Juan Thornhill was out most of last season. Yeah, well, like half of last season, I should say. So what?
[01:06:29] Speaker B: I think he was banged up a little bit, too, at times. So I like this, though.
[01:06:32] Speaker C: Great depth piece.
[01:06:33] Speaker B: This is a really good sign.
[01:06:35] Speaker C: It's always good when you have a kind of a starter one a coming off the bench to.
[01:06:41] Speaker B: He was one of their best free agent acquisitions last year and to have him back is good.
[01:06:46] Speaker C: Yep.
They've also resigned wide receiver and punt returner James pro sh. So I think we all know that means the end for Jakeem Grant. He's going to be gone because he don't keep two punt returners.
[01:06:56] Speaker B: No. Yeah, Jake Grant's probably gone. He's off of.
Is he going to put two achilles or was it two different injury?
[01:07:02] Speaker C: I think it was an Achilles and Acl. ACL something like. I don't know for sure. Don't quote me on that. But I just know two season ending.
[01:07:08] Speaker B: Injuries, those are tough, tough injuries to come back from when your game relies on speed and you're in your thirties.
James Prochet doesn't do anything for me in terms of like, whoo. But I think the Browns probably are looking at this going, and here's a guy that we at least trust fielding the ball.
[01:07:21] Speaker C: That's what I was gonna say is it wasn't an adventure when he was catching punts.
[01:07:24] Speaker B: And we'll talk about this here in just a minute. But the NFL commission coaches meetings and stuff, owners meetings are happening this week and there's been a lot of talk about revamping, redoing kickoff rules.
[01:07:38] Speaker C: So I'm going to like the XFL.
[01:07:39] Speaker B: Kickoff trying to just a bunch of different things.
[01:07:42] Speaker C: Right.
[01:07:42] Speaker B: So I think it's like they're probably looking at like, is this even gonna be a part of the game in the next like five years?
[01:07:46] Speaker C: I think it's the opposite. It's desperation of them trying to like make sure stays a part of the game. Because this past year kicking was like non existent.
[01:07:54] Speaker B: Well, no, that's what I mean. I'm saying from a brown standpoint of like, we're not going to go out and even try and find like another Jakeem grant at this point. We trust this guy fielding the ball. He's, we pay him next to nothing. And this may not be a significant part of the game going forward.
[01:08:07] Speaker C: So that's fair.
[01:08:08] Speaker B: Here's your job.
[01:08:10] Speaker C: The most significant pickup of the week, York is back.
[01:08:14] Speaker B: Hell yes.
[01:08:15] Speaker C: I know. That's, that's, that's probably polarizing to the fan base.
Not really. I think the majority of people are just really confused and annoyed that he's back, but he is back. And here's the deal.
Don't get too excited. It's reported that he was just brought in as mainly just to be kind of camp competition for Dustin Hopkins. Not competition in the sense of like, he's going to, like, take his job, in the sense of like, you need to have another kicker on roster to push that guy a little bit. And that's. That's what they brought it back for. But it is also a futures contract.
And so what that means is they kind of have rights to him for a little while. And I think what they're thinking is they can fix him and potentially keep him on the team when Hopkins moves on or retires after his contract's up.
[01:09:03] Speaker D: Feels like the pressure's off of him now.
[01:09:06] Speaker C: Right. And that's what I'm thinking is if they bring him back, they're like, look, you're not the starter. We just want to work with you and we think you have potential. Maybe he develops into the guy that they drafted him, to, be sure.
[01:09:16] Speaker B: So a couple things on K Jork. One, I like K Jork as a player. There were a lot of people that were upset about being drafted, drafting a kicker.
I'm not one of them with you. I look at a kicker and I say, like, Phil Dawson's the top three in points scored in Brown's history. Like, they play a significant role. How important was Dustin Hopkins last year?
[01:09:38] Speaker C: So important.
[01:09:39] Speaker B: He made every kick at 50 yards and he scored a crap ton of points. He broke Jim Brown's record, did he not?
[01:09:45] Speaker C: No.
[01:09:45] Speaker B: Or is he like two points?
[01:09:47] Speaker C: He was just. He was like, he broke Phil Dawson's record. He did not break.
[01:09:52] Speaker B: So, like, that should tell you, like, how important kickers are. They score 100 points a year.
[01:09:57] Speaker C: Those 121 or 122 is what he finished.
[01:10:00] Speaker B: 124 decide games. So I'm not against, like, if you. If you see a guy that you want, that you think can be your kicker for the next ten, go get him.
[01:10:07] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:10:09] Speaker B: That being said, kjerk obviously did not work out. Fortunately for the Browns, we went out and found Dustin Hopkins, and he was. Is way better than average. He was awesome. Became bone's favorite player of all time. Besides Ben Davis.
[01:10:22] Speaker D: Yeah, Ben Davis.
[01:10:22] Speaker C: Ben Davis, number one.
[01:10:23] Speaker D: Shouldn't have got hurt.
[01:10:24] Speaker B: Just Bone had to put Dustin Hopkins on the shelf because he's like, ben, you're a cool guy.
[01:10:29] Speaker C: He's like, Dustin Hopkins, been hurt lately? It's what have you done for me lately? Kind of thing. And Ben Davis really had good stories on the Brown.
[01:10:38] Speaker D: That's exactly right.
[01:10:39] Speaker B: You know, I think assuming Dustin Hopkins is totally healthy, the Browns are going to make him the starter for day one. Yeah, I think the question is, Dustin Hopkins is a little older was banged up last year, and a lot of teams carry multiple kickers through camp. That's not unusual. The Browns have done it for years. We've always got two kickers. And I think they would like to keep him there because if something happens with Dustin, I think that they do. Like, the fact that this dude looks.
[01:11:07] Speaker C: He got drafted for a reason.
[01:11:08] Speaker B: Is inaccurate. Accurate as he was in tough situations, the kid can still kick the ball 75 yards.
That's not a skill a lot of people have.
[01:11:18] Speaker C: No.
[01:11:19] Speaker B: So if they can, very few actually fix him.
I mean, you could talk about a weapon.
The interesting take that I've heard about Cade York that I disagree with strongly is that this brown's front office is driven to prove that, like, that fourth round pick was worth it, that they want to be, you know, the smartest guy in the room. Like, how we were. Cause they did post that tweet about, like, that's why you draft a kicker. And, like, it was a whole thing.
[01:11:46] Speaker C: Yeah, they do that a lot.
[01:11:48] Speaker B: But. But my whole thing is we've already proven to K Jor didn't work out. You had to cut him.
[01:11:53] Speaker C: Right.
[01:11:53] Speaker B: And you had to go to a veteran. So if K Jordan becomes a good kicker now, that doesn't mean you were right about him.
[01:11:58] Speaker C: Right.
[01:11:58] Speaker B: You were wrong about him to start. You could have not drafted K Jorg at the fourth round pick, waited a year or two till he flamed out and then still got him anyway. So that whole thing to me, like, I. That was just a dumb argument. Well, that was the endless conversation on local radio, was that, you know, Brown's front office wants to prove they were right about Kate York. And I'm just like, this doesn't do it. You were wrong about him from the start.
What's right about kickers that we keep saying is like, there's a lot of good kickers out there that are unemployed, that, like, if you give one of them a chance, and look, we've seen this with other Browns kickers, Chase, McLaughlin, some of these guys that have come in, Zane, Gonzalez, Gonzalez, they found jobs in their homes and have been consistent. And Chase was in, I think, Tampa Bay last year and was made like 30 or so field goals.
[01:12:46] Speaker C: I think it was like, top seven in the league or something.
[01:12:48] Speaker B: Yeah, he was a top kicker last year. It's like, we've had guys even that came through Cleveland, that we washed them out and then went on to be good kickers elsewhere.
[01:12:55] Speaker C: It's really hard to kick in Cleveland.
[01:12:57] Speaker B: It's a hard job in general, I think just teams are so impatient with these guys, and you end up almost like, with quarterbacks. We have a bunch of talented guys that just never get a real fair shake because you get a bad first run and you're done.
[01:13:11] Speaker C: Yep. No, I like the move. I think, like. Like you kind of mentioned. I mean, not that they're trying to prove anything still, but they draft him in the fourth round for a reason. Cause the kids got talent. Yeah, he's got a rough go of it the first time around, and luckily, he's getting a second chance. I would like nothing more than for, like, like, down the road somewhere. Kate York ends up being the kicker for the Browns again, and he totally redeems himself something crazy to, like, beat Baltimore and double overtime as time. Like, whatever the case is, like, just something nuts where you're like, yes.
[01:13:44] Speaker D: How happy are these people who bought Kate York jerseys?
[01:13:46] Speaker B: Oh, I have one. I'm so happy.
[01:13:49] Speaker C: Kenny's got it.
[01:13:49] Speaker B: I was gonna wear it tonight, but the other thing is, like, kade, I think, also got a really hard go of it to start. It was. It was felt like every time we put Kate in the game, it was to kick a 60 1 yd field goal to win the game.
[01:14:01] Speaker D: Well, he kicked the game winner the very first start, right from 60 yards against Carolina. Was that his first start? So that was just huge.
[01:14:09] Speaker B: Right? And it was like the first four weeks of the season, I felt like that was almost every week.
[01:14:12] Speaker C: He was hitting big time kicks.
[01:14:14] Speaker B: They were asking to kick 60 yarders.
[01:14:15] Speaker C: And eventually that catches up to you.
[01:14:17] Speaker B: And just, yeah, you're a rookie. Like, you're gonna. And then. So I just. I feel like he got a really rough start. And so, look, I like Dustin Hopkins. I'm all for bringing him back. He was phenomenal last year. But if they can keep this kid hidden on the practice squad and people working with him, people forget.
[01:14:32] Speaker C: Your point just a minute ago is Dustin Hopkins is getting a little bit older.
[01:14:35] Speaker B: Sure.
[01:14:36] Speaker C: And he got hurt. He got hurt. And for a lot of players in the NFL, like, it's not a gradual decline. Like, all of a sudden, they just fall off a cliff and they're done. And I'm not saying that's going to happen to Dustin Hopkins, but there's always that chance, especially coming off an injury.
[01:14:50] Speaker B: And if you keep him hidden on the practice squad here for a year or two while Dustin keeps kicking and Dustin needs to miss a week or two. You have a guy that you've been working with for a while. So I don't see anything wrong with it. Look, it was funny news to be breaking for the bread that Kate York was back, but look, I don't have any problem with it at all. And I don't think he's supplanting Dustin Hopkins unless something is wrong with Dustin Hopkins at the start of the season.
[01:15:15] Speaker C: Right. All right, so next up in Browns news, the Browns have been awarded the nigerian market rights to help expand the NFL into the country as part of the global markets program.
So this is the first market that has been granted to the Cleveland Browns, and it is David Njoku's home country. So kind of a big deal for the Browns to really showcase the NFL.
[01:15:40] Speaker B: I'm not super familiar with this. I mean, what does this exactly mean? Is this about getting talent from this area or is this about streaming the game?
[01:15:52] Speaker C: Yeah, it's more about growing the NFL game, game to the area and bringing, bringing the NFL to these, these sites.
[01:15:58] Speaker B: Nigeria, a big television market.
[01:16:03] Speaker D: Story caught me off guard. Like, you, like, no, they did this.
[01:16:06] Speaker C: I'll read the statement.
[01:16:07] Speaker B: Like, I know that they, we talked about the NFL's, like, global, you know, whatever initiatives in the past where they had, like, Sweden got, like, assigned, like the Steelers.
[01:16:15] Speaker C: Here, let me, let me go over the teams for you. So the Dolphins have Argentina. These are, these are the. Read all the countries.
[01:16:22] Speaker B: Dolphins have Argentina, a big country with a lot of people in it.
[01:16:26] Speaker C: Austria. Austria is covered by the lions, the colts, the chiefs, the patriots, the seahawks, and the buccaneers. Australia is covered by the rams and the eagles. Brazil is covered by the dolphins and the patriots. Canada is covered by the lions, the Vikings, and the Seahawks. China's covered by the rams. Colombia is covered by the dolphins. France is covered by the saints. Ghana is covered by the eagles. Germany is covered by the falcons, panthers, lions, colts, chiefs, patriots, giants, steelers, seahawks, and buccaneers. Ireland is covered by the jaguars, jets, and steelers. Japan is covered by the rams. South Korea is covered by the rams. Mexico is covered by the cardinals, the cowboys, the broncos, the Texans, the chiefs, the raiders, the rams, the dolphins, the steelers, and the 49 ers. New Zealand is the rams and the eagles. Spain is the bears. In the dolphins, Switzerland is lions, chiefs.
It goes through this whole thing. And the browns now have Nigeria.
[01:17:42] Speaker D: I'm gathering now this. The Browns have been, been screwed the last however many years. They're literally named once. The Dolphins were named like ten times.
[01:17:49] Speaker C: Well, yeah, so there, there's a number of teams that have quite a few. There's still a number of teams that don't have any. So the fact that the Browns got one is a big deal for. For Cleveland because they. They basically are in charge of expanding the NFL into this global market of Nigeria.
[01:18:07] Speaker B: So I'll say this, too. So, like, just.
[01:18:09] Speaker C: Do you want the statement from the Browns?
[01:18:11] Speaker B: We'll get to that in a second. So I just. I want to just correct my own thinking to begin with. Cause I was thinking, like, seems like a weird place to try to bring NFL football.
Cause I don't. I'm not super, like, up on my african geography and population demographics.
[01:18:29] Speaker C: Fun fact, field. The school that we went to growing up did not have geography.
[01:18:34] Speaker B: No, I didn't wait until college. Take that. Yeah, that's true.
[01:18:38] Speaker C: Thanks, guys.
[01:18:39] Speaker B: And it was one of the last classes I took before I left college, so I just. I think I failed.
So just doing, like, 10 seconds of research here while you're listing every name of every football team. Yeah, you're welcome.
[01:18:51] Speaker C: I had it on, you know, Nigeria's.
[01:18:54] Speaker B: Significant population, 213 million people there. So sizable, almost like us. I mean, almost as big.
And Nigeria is one of the biggest tv markets in Africa.
70% of homes have a tv set, and that represents around 28 million households in the country.
[01:19:14] Speaker C: Yeah, it's big deal.
[01:19:14] Speaker B: So when you think about that versus, like, Germany, I think had, like four teams in it. Germany's population overall is like 80 million people.
[01:19:21] Speaker C: Germany actually had way more than that, I believe.
[01:19:23] Speaker B: Yeah, I feel like there was a lot, but, like, if you think, then, okay, so then we've separated Germany into like five or 810 ten. So then each of those teams gets, respectively, 8 million people versus you have.
[01:19:37] Speaker C: We got 13 million people.
[01:19:40] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:19:40] Speaker C: And I'm assuming what this means in part, as far as growing, growing the NFL to these regions is Brown's games will be streaming and broadcast in that market. Like that entire market.
[01:19:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:19:54] Speaker C: So you seems in Nigeria, the unofficial podcast of brownsbackers everywhere. Think of all the new rounds, backers, groups.
[01:20:03] Speaker B: We're going to have favorite podcasts in Nigeria.
[01:20:06] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. This is fantastic. This is great news. But now the fact that David Njoku is. Is on the team, he said a huge part of who the Browns are as a team right now.
[01:20:18] Speaker B: I think that adds to just purely my own ignorance. At the initial reaction. I was just thinking, like, is there. Is that a big tv market? But I guess it is.
[01:20:26] Speaker C: And so, real quick, here's the statement from the team. We are excited to be awarded the nigerian market to further expand the dog pound to Nigeria. The game of american football continues to grow across the globe and Nigeria is an important market to be in. With the increasing number of players across our league that take great pride in their nigerian heritage. The browns look forward to continuing to grow the game in Nigeria through the global marketing program while learning from and connecting with the nigerian community to cultivate more opportunities.
So basically, yeah, they have the market, the entire market.
[01:20:57] Speaker B: It's apparently a big market and they're the only team.
[01:21:00] Speaker C: So it's a big deal.
[01:21:01] Speaker B: Yeah. Good for them.
[01:21:03] Speaker C: Hopefully it's a smashing success.
Anyways, next up here, AFC North News. One big thing happened right after we recorded our last huge. That we have to talk about. The Steelers traded a six round pick to the Bears for Justin Fields. You heard that right? I know it's old news at this point, but we still got to talk about it. The Steelers now have Russell Wilson and Justin Fields.
[01:21:27] Speaker B: The Steelers officially have the best quarterback room in the AFC north room.
I mean, to have both those guys.
[01:21:34] Speaker C: Hey, we have a Pro Bowler from like, just last year on our roster, Tyler Huntley.
[01:21:41] Speaker B: Great. Yeah, that was, that was news that also broke after the fan crew that we didn't have on our pod, at least the Tyler Huntley signing.
[01:21:48] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:21:51] Speaker B: I mean, this is huge. This is. We were talking last week when the Russell Wilson news broke. Like, how big of news that was for the Pittsburgh Steelers. And the question was, does Russell still have enough? And he probably does to be the day one starter. But look, I think when Justin Fields gets the ball in his hands during camp, he's going to make that decision really, really hard for these guys.
[01:22:12] Speaker C: I agree. And, you know, I've been outspoken about the fact that I think Russell Wilson has been washed for a couple of years now.
And. But that was big news because. Because regardless of if Russell Wilson is washed or not, he's a huge upgrade from, from Kenny Pickett. Huge.
And now you throw Justin Fields in the mix, who I think is a legitimate quarterback. He's not like Russell Wilson, where he's washed and doesn't have any talent. I shouldn't say Russell Wilson doesn't have any talent, but he's got way less talent than he used to. Justin Fields is still developing as a quarterback. I mean, he's young. He's very young. He only went to college for two years. He's only been in the NFL for what, two, three years now? Now three years I think it is. This will be his fourth coming up. So that I think the Justin Fields trade is actually scarier than the Wilson.
[01:23:02] Speaker B: No shit.
Russell.
What we said about Russell was Russell and Mike Tomlin led.
[01:23:10] Speaker C: The only person on the show thinks Russell will tussle is bone.
[01:23:13] Speaker D: It's Russell's chat.
[01:23:15] Speaker B: Nobody's taking it from him.
Here we go. Stake that on what's today.
[01:23:23] Speaker D: MVP.
[01:23:23] Speaker C: Stamped.
[01:23:24] Speaker B: MVP candidate, March 25, 2024.
[01:23:27] Speaker C: Stamped.
[01:23:28] Speaker B: Stamped bone.
Look, I mean, this is terrifying. I mean, we talked about Patrick Wayne, Russell Wilson. These guys going to Pittsburgh to have Justin Fields now. They're in the mix. Terrifying. Absolutely terrifying. Not just for now, but week two.
[01:23:45] Speaker C: Or three, for the next ten years.
[01:23:48] Speaker B: I think Russell will flourish in a Mike Tomlin led system. I think the question is going to be, are they getting the explosive plays that Justin Fields is probably bringing up practice every day?
[01:23:59] Speaker C: I think they're going to have such a hard time keeping him off the field. I think week two or three at the latest, Justin Field starts cars.
[01:24:07] Speaker B: I would agree. And even if Justin doesn't get on the field till late this season, what.
[01:24:11] Speaker C: Do they lose with Russell Wilson anyways? They signed him for the league minimum.
[01:24:14] Speaker B: Yeah. And they signed him for, I think, just a year.
[01:24:16] Speaker C: One year at the league minimum, $1.2 million.
[01:24:18] Speaker B: My thing is, like, I think this year is a transition year for both of these guys to figure out what's left in Russell's tank. And Justin Fields is going to be the quarterback of the future next year. I think Justin Fields is the for sure starter.
[01:24:30] Speaker C: Well, and we. We've talked about it before. Justin Fields, a lot bigger than most people think he is. He's a big dude. Like, you're talking. Not quite Ben Roethlisberger, but he's still in that same mold where he, like, he's really hard to take down. He's.
[01:24:43] Speaker B: Here's my whole thing. Like, Russell again, he threw 26 touchdowns to eight picks last year. His numbers were really across the league, very decent.
[01:24:51] Speaker C: Yeah, he got benched for no reason, for not giving up his injury guarantee.
[01:24:56] Speaker B: Justin Fields. And I've said from day one, Justin Fields need to get out of Chicago. Chicago. Oh, yeah. For Dustin Fields to land in.
I hate to call, like, give praise to Pittsburgh.
[01:25:07] Speaker C: Mike, we've talked about everything about Pittsburgh.
[01:25:09] Speaker B: Except for their football team is shit.
[01:25:10] Speaker C: Yeah.
Mike Tomlin's a great coach, but that.
[01:25:14] Speaker B: The whole organization, top to bottom, right? I mean, they have. There's a reason. They've. They've had stability. They've had three head coaches in 70 years. When you think about that ownership group and the people that they bring into that team and the ones that they cut, get rid of because they don't want to deal with their antics, like, they do a good job of moving the right guys in, the right guys out building great defenses year after year. Look, I hate saying good things about Pittsburgh, but the fact that Russell or Justin Fields could sit and may not do be a bad thing for him to sit under Russell Wilson for a year and just learn the type of pro Russell is and learn how to run an operate NFL team the way Russell does, because he's a guy that's won in a Super bowl that might be make Justin fields all that much better when he finally gets the nod. True. So I just think, like, we're basically f'ed in the a for the next ten years.
[01:26:03] Speaker C: Effed in the a hard. In the a hard. That sucks.
[01:26:09] Speaker B: I mean, we are all of a sudden the worst quarterback room in the AFC North. I mean, we have a questionable, we have what we thought was the best quarterback in the AFC north to all of a sudden, this guy's actually questionable.
[01:26:22] Speaker D: I'd say so.
[01:26:23] Speaker C: I don't, I wouldn't say without, without a doubt. Because after, I mean, he's, I'm not. He's very good Joe Burrow. But they don't really have anybody on their, on their roster in Cincinnati. We at least have decent back.
[01:26:34] Speaker D: They bring back Browning.
[01:26:35] Speaker B: Yeah. That kid was decent, right?
[01:26:37] Speaker C: They do have Jake Browning.
[01:26:38] Speaker B: Yeah. All right. We're the worst. And his girlfriend wears that white sweat.
[01:26:42] Speaker C: Does.
[01:26:43] Speaker B: We're the worst. Yeah, we are the worst. Quarterback room.
[01:26:45] Speaker C: Thanks, guys.
[01:26:46] Speaker B: Thank you.
[01:26:48] Speaker C: You guys are the worst friends I ever had.
[01:26:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Fton the a hard.
[01:26:51] Speaker C: Soon as I get excited about being second to last the AFC north, hopefully Deshawn proves this.
[01:26:56] Speaker D: Round.
[01:26:56] Speaker B: The offseason came and the AFC north told the Browns, f them. F them all.
[01:27:00] Speaker C: Listen, this is going to be the year that Lamar Jackson finally gets snapped in half.
[01:27:04] Speaker D: I mean, look, he's got to be, like, touched, hopefully.
[01:27:07] Speaker B: Well, yeah. Now, well, now we can't tackle quarterbacks.
[01:27:09] Speaker C: So anybody, the hip, drop tackle, that's gone. We'll get there in just a second.
[01:27:14] Speaker B: Look, afton the a. Yeah. Aftoni a.
[01:27:16] Speaker C: All right, another NFL news here. Aaron Donald has retired from the NFL after ten seasons. We usually don't spotlight other guys like this, but he's arguably the best at his position ever.
His short career, he only played ten years. It's long compared to, like, the average, but, like, short compared to a lot of the greats.
And he was still in his prime.
But, I mean, he had 543 tackles, 111 sacks, 2014 Rookie of the year, three time defensive player of the year, eight time eight time first team All Pro, ten time Pro Bowler, Super bowl champion.
And so literally every single year he played in the NFL, he was in the Pro bowl. In eight of the ten years that he played in the NFL, he's a first team All Pro. That's just wiggy, wild, tremendous player. In the last five years, the NFL average pass rush win rate against a single pass blocker was 17% for a qualified rusher. Aaron Donald posted an 18% win rate against double teams in that time span. You heard that, right? Aaron Donald was better against two guys the last five years than your average pass rusher was against one guy.
So just phenomenal player. The only thing I didn't like about this whole thing is in somewhat of a. I don't think it was directed towards Miles Garrett, more so as praise for TJ Watt. It was.
He said, I feel like TJ Watt should have won a couple more defensive player of the year awards. He kind of got snubbed a couple times. I ain't going to lie. So Steelers fans are going to love that on his way out. But. But dude was phenomenal.
[01:28:43] Speaker B: Bottom line. Here's what I'll say about Aaron Donald. He should have been suspended for double wielding helmets at practice last two years.
[01:28:49] Speaker C: True.
[01:28:50] Speaker B: So screw him and his thoughts on Miles Garrett. Yeah, because you pulled the same shit. You just didn't get in trouble for it.
[01:28:56] Speaker C: Yeah. Cause it practice, it wasn't on tv.
[01:28:58] Speaker B: Go f yourself. No, but look, Aaron down, tremendous player in the NFL, ten seasons. I think what's funny is we always talk about, like, Barry and Jim Brown, these guys retired near prime.
Calvin Johnson's other one. I always think about this, and I'm like, to us, they're in their prime.
Maybe they're not anymore.
[01:29:18] Speaker C: Calvin Johnson is actually probably the best example of that. Like, we all thought he was still in his prime, but you talked to him. He's like, most days when I left football and I wasn't on all those painkillers, I could hardly walk.
[01:29:28] Speaker B: Well, like, think about even your own lives. Like, you were. You guys were in your young twenties when you quit playing college football. Like, but there was a certain point where you go, either my body can't take this anymore, or I just don't have. I don't have the. I don't have what it takes to keep doing this for whatever reason. Cause it's. Why want to be at home or want to be my family or want to focus on my studies. Like, but you lose that. That spark that brought you there.
[01:29:54] Speaker C: Yeah. My personal feelings and, like, what, what ended my football journey? Because I didn't play all four years of college. I only played two years.
One of the major things that happened was I was getting stingers in my shoulders to where literally both shoulders. Every single time I lowered my shoulder and delivered a hit, my entire arm would go numb.
[01:30:15] Speaker B: Well, that's what I mean. And so you think about a guy that's played ten years of football.
[01:30:18] Speaker C: I could have kept playing, but what was it?
[01:30:20] Speaker B: We didn't feel good. We go, ten years isn't as long as some of these other guys, you see your Brett Farsi guys to play for 20 years and you're like, wow, we don't realize how incredible that is. Yeah, we always go, Tom Brady retired early. He could have been so good. We played. McDonald played 20 years, he probably wouldn't be able to walk ever again.
[01:30:37] Speaker C: Everybody recently has been spoiled by Tom.
[01:30:39] Speaker B: Brady because, for sure, because even the freak athlete that Aaron Donald is like, and if you took, if you took Aaron Downs clothes off next to Tom Brady with his clothes off, you're going, yeah, Aaron Donald is the better athlete.
But like, Aaron Donald's life in the NFL was way harder.
[01:30:54] Speaker C: Oh, Tom Brady's had a lot of.
[01:30:56] Speaker B: Work done was way harder than Tom Brady's life in the NFL, especially because as Tom Brady kept playing, you could hit him less and less, whereas Aaron Donald lived in the trenches. So I just think that it's one of those maybe misnomers that we often get attached to where it's like this guy retired to earlier retired his prime because he's. He probably feels like he played 20 seasons in the end.
[01:31:19] Speaker C: And the thing is, he accomplished literally everything there was to accomplish. What he's going to do, even if. Even if he felt like he had some left in the tank. Like what? For, like, he's. If he even feels I'm just going.
[01:31:30] Speaker B: To continue to degrade my body and I'm going to get worse at playing.
[01:31:33] Speaker C: The game if he feels any decline whatsoever. Like, what? What's the point?
[01:31:36] Speaker B: I mean, it sucks his fans because we want to watch these guys play forever.
[01:31:38] Speaker C: Aaron Donald's fun to watch, but. But he hit people with his helmet, so. Yeah, f them all, but no. Finally.
[01:31:46] Speaker B: Let's go.
[01:31:47] Speaker C: Keep this brief, guys. I know this is going to trigger some people brief.
[01:31:50] Speaker B: We're going to keep this part brief.
[01:31:52] Speaker C: Let's keep it as brief as possible. The NFL has officially banned the, quote, hip drop tackle, or as most of us know it, the tackle NFL has, has banned the tackle.
[01:32:03] Speaker B: No more tackle. It was ludicrous.
[01:32:05] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm just going to. I'm going to let you go. I'm going to chime in here as well, but I'm going to let you talk for a second. Cause I'm sure you have plenty to say about this.
[01:32:15] Speaker B: It's ludicrous because this is how you tackle people. This is the game of. Football is a combat sport.
It is like boxing, like MMA. It is a combat sport. It is a gladiatorial sport. You suit up in literal armor and go hit the guy from the other team. It's basically like hearkening back to medieval days. Like we have a war every Sunday.
[01:32:43] Speaker C: I'm glad our colors versus yours.
[01:32:45] Speaker B: Last man standing wins.
[01:32:46] Speaker C: I'm glad that you. That's the game because as you were describing that, I actually, the first thing that went through my head is what if we just got like full on like knights armor on and everybody's just playing football like it'd be wild, but go on.
[01:32:57] Speaker B: But that's kind of what they do.
I mean, look, my biggest problem with this is not only just the ludicrous insanity as an of it all is that, but we're making it harder and harder to just tackle offensive guys, which there's already plenty of offense in the game. The game is doing just fine. Tv ratings have never been higher. More people are watching the NFL in Nigeria. People are watching the NFL all over the world. Let's, let's change it.
[01:33:24] Speaker C: Yep.
[01:33:25] Speaker B: Like, the game has never been more popular.
[01:33:27] Speaker C: What makes it better? Take away the tackling.
[01:33:29] Speaker B: Take away the tackling.
[01:33:31] Speaker C: Take away the tackling.
[01:33:31] Speaker B: My biggest problem is this puts the onus for critical calls into the subjective mind of referees, which every Sunday we come back and say, what game were they watching?
[01:33:46] Speaker C: What's, what's been the most consistent thing over the last probably three or four years in the NFL is how bad the rest.
[01:33:51] Speaker B: How bad the rest have been week.
[01:33:52] Speaker C: In and week out. And there's a not, not like a call that's blown. Like a game that's blown by a call every week.
[01:34:00] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:34:00] Speaker C: And now we just get to add to it.
[01:34:02] Speaker B: So let's think of.
[01:34:03] Speaker C: Which is weird because here's another rule, here's another rule not to get into the conspiracy theories out there, but here's another rule that helps the refs control the game when the NFL is in bed with all of the sports betting organizations out there. So, I mean, just something to think about.
[01:34:19] Speaker D: I wanted to be familiar with a hip drop tackle, so I was looking up videos to see how it was explained.
[01:34:24] Speaker C: Just a tackle.
[01:34:25] Speaker D: And I'm like, how is a defender supposed to tackle somebody from behind?
If they're chasing somebody down, you literally have to, like, lunge at that person and wrap them up, and then you fall.
You kind of fall to the ground. That would be a hip drop tackle.
The video I watch.
[01:34:41] Speaker C: Yeah. To me, this actually creates more injuries. Cause now what are you gonna do? You're gonna come from behind and literally just, like, torpedo somebody, the back of somebody's knees.
[01:34:50] Speaker B: You physically can't tackle someone from behind or from the side. The only way you can is, like, form tackling. Like, when you first learn, like, head up guys or what they go for.
[01:34:59] Speaker C: Is just all the offense. They're like, if you get past me, I can't tackle you.
[01:35:02] Speaker B: Get around me.
[01:35:03] Speaker D: Stop running.
[01:35:04] Speaker B: If I was a defender, that's a exactly.
[01:35:06] Speaker C: You can't hip drop tackle. You can't horse collar.
[01:35:08] Speaker B: You can't hit him high, can't hit him low.
[01:35:10] Speaker C: Yeah, what are you gonna do?
[01:35:11] Speaker B: You can't hit them when they're not looking at you.
[01:35:13] Speaker C: You literally gotta run and just, like, chop their leg.
[01:35:15] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:35:15] Speaker D: You just run and do the club.
[01:35:16] Speaker B: The definition. The definition here is a foul. If the player uses the following technique to bring the runner to the ground, grabs the runner with both hands, or wraps the runner with both arms, and unweights himself so he tackles.
[01:35:33] Speaker D: Sounds like the definition of a tackle.
They even said, wrap up.
[01:35:37] Speaker B: How would. How else would you tackle? I mean, you have to. The game is played by giving yourself.
[01:35:43] Speaker C: You've clearly never played football.
[01:35:46] Speaker B: You. You take. You give up your own body to make the play. You leave your feet to run into someone else. You dive into them.
[01:35:54] Speaker C: Here's the deal, too. Like, at some point, you got to stop trying to make it safer. Like, they know that there's inherent risk in playing football.
[01:36:01] Speaker B: That's why they're paid four or $5 million a year.
[01:36:04] Speaker C: Why'd you start playing football when you were younger?
[01:36:06] Speaker B: I loved it. I wanted to hit people.
[01:36:07] Speaker C: Why'd you start playing football when you were younger?
[01:36:09] Speaker D: I loved it, and I wanted to hit people.
[01:36:10] Speaker C: I loved it, and I wanted to hit people. Like, that's why we play the game.
[01:36:14] Speaker D: We were boys.
[01:36:15] Speaker C: We understand that there's some danger, and that's the whole reason we play. That's the whole reason you watch.
[01:36:21] Speaker B: I mean, every one of us in this room has seen a guy had a leg bent the wrong way.
[01:36:26] Speaker C: I've seen some shit.
[01:36:28] Speaker B: Bowen did it to a guy.
[01:36:29] Speaker D: Yeah, I did it. I'm like, that would be the definition.
[01:36:32] Speaker B: Definition of a drop tackle.
But, like, sorry, dad. But like, the thing is, is that we all kept playing the game.
[01:36:38] Speaker A: Even.
[01:36:38] Speaker B: Do we watch that in practice or watched it in a game? We all kept playing that stupid game, right? We were like, that could happen to me.
[01:36:45] Speaker C: Think twice after I've been knocked out like 47 times in my career. You went right back to, whatever, let's do it. You actually just told my wife this past week. I'm pretty sure I have Cte. But, you know, we'll figure that out later.
[01:36:56] Speaker B: You just go right back to the oklahoma. Like, one guy busting a leg, next guy up. Like, that's what you do.
[01:37:02] Speaker C: Why would you not?
[01:37:03] Speaker B: I just cannot.
[01:37:05] Speaker C: I quit naming names of guys that have had their legs bent the wrong way.
[01:37:08] Speaker B: I mean, it is a combat sport. I just, I cannot fathom. And in this day and age, when we have glorified and grown a sport like MMA to the such a level, and boxing still has a pretty specialized.
It's like the whole goal of their game is to hit somebody in the head until they physically can't stand anymore.
[01:37:28] Speaker C: Right.
[01:37:29] Speaker B: We're worried about me unweighting myself.
[01:37:34] Speaker C: How dare you?
[01:37:34] Speaker B: A referee has to make a split second decision to go, that guy unweighted himself. What happens if he gave up his own legs to make that tackle?
[01:37:40] Speaker C: What happens if in the process of wrapping somebody up while you're tackling them, you, like, trip, and then you're just like, oh, God, it fell over 15 yards.
I'm getting fined.
[01:37:50] Speaker D: Release him.
[01:37:51] Speaker B: This is the most looted. This cannot stay stand. It will stand for this year, and it will have to be repealed.
[01:37:56] Speaker C: Is this going to be like the time when they said you can review pass interference?
[01:37:59] Speaker B: Yes, it's going to be exactly.
[01:38:01] Speaker C: This was the worst idea we've had.
[01:38:02] Speaker B: Because seriously, if I'm an NFL defender and I get flagged for this and I cause my team 15 yards, like, the next time I'm in that position, I'm just going to be like, I. I guess I'll just stand here and watch that guy.
Unbelievable clowns.
[01:38:18] Speaker C: All right, well, now that we've.
We got any more, is that it?
[01:38:22] Speaker B: It's the got dumbest rule that's ever happened in any sport ever. It'd be like saying in NASCAR, like, you can't hit your break anymore.
[01:38:30] Speaker C: There's no more rubbing.
[01:38:31] Speaker B: You're just gonna. Just gonna go. Whoever gets their front wins.
[01:38:33] Speaker C: Rubbing is no longer racing.
[01:38:35] Speaker B: Oh, I just. There's no, there's. This does nothing for anyone except for. Ruins the game of football and makes it harder for everyone to play and enjoy.
[01:38:44] Speaker C: Definitely makes it harder to watch.
[01:38:45] Speaker B: It's. It's. It's the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
[01:38:48] Speaker C: Cause now I'm just gonna be screaming, I'm missed tackles. But then I got worse. Part is they missed the tackle. Cause they're.
[01:38:52] Speaker B: The worst part is this was voted in unanimously by the NFL owners who don't play football. They don't play the game.
[01:38:59] Speaker C: The NFL Players association fought it tooth and nail and lost.
[01:39:03] Speaker B: Every player that has been interviewed or talked to about this is like, I hate it. I don't know how I'm supposed to do my job anymore.
[01:39:09] Speaker C: They asked JJ Watt specifically on whatever show he's on right now. They said, what do you think about this? And he said, well, first of all, all, somebody tried to ask me if I could define a hip drop tackle. And I had absolutely no idea. I didn't know what it was because it just seems like a tackle to me.
[01:39:27] Speaker B: It is a tackle. You often unweight yourself that, look, this.
[01:39:31] Speaker C: Particular of tackle can't do it.
[01:39:34] Speaker B: This particular, the dirty one, right where you're landing on a player's legs or trapping your legs, like as a smaller guy growing up, playing football, that's how you tackle. That was the only way I could tackle. You can't tackle a bigger person than you by just form tackling them. I couldn't get enough speed or enough strength to tackle.
[01:39:51] Speaker C: Two ways to tackle a guy like that. You did this or you literally dove at their ankles, in which case, nowadays you're called dirty.
[01:39:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:39:59] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:39:59] Speaker B: Cause generally, if you're diving in their ankles, your shoulder pads are going right into their knee, so.
But this was literally the way I tackled. I mean, the entire time I played football, you had to. You can't bring down a guy that's bigger than you without dead weight him. You throw your whole weight into him and you wrap him up with every part of your body, and I'll take.
[01:40:18] Speaker C: It one step further. You wrap them and you throw your whole weight into his legs.
[01:40:23] Speaker B: Yes. That's what you do. That's what you do.
[01:40:25] Speaker C: That's how you tackle somebody.
[01:40:26] Speaker B: I just kind of trips them up.
[01:40:27] Speaker D: You know, like, it's like if I.
[01:40:31] Speaker C: Don'T throw my weight at their legs, a lot of those bigger guys just carry me.
[01:40:34] Speaker B: They just keep pumping them. And you're holding on to one leg, just trying to reach for the other one, and you never can get it. It's terrible.
[01:40:40] Speaker D: You're getting kicked in the face, like.
[01:40:42] Speaker B: By their cleat, and eventually a lineman's just gonna come jump on your back.
[01:40:46] Speaker C: I thought we were coming to a close. We just got revved up again.
[01:40:48] Speaker B: This is the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Seen.
[01:40:50] Speaker C: It just makes me so angry.
[01:40:51] Speaker B: It's like for years, we've had this other stupid debate in the NFL, which is like, what is a catch? We're now entering the era of what is a tackle?
[01:40:58] Speaker D: It's terrible.
[01:40:59] Speaker B: What is a tackle?
[01:40:59] Speaker C: You can't do it.
[01:41:00] Speaker B: You can't tag anyone.
[01:41:02] Speaker C: Put the goddamn flags on flag football, here we come.
[01:41:05] Speaker B: It's just like the Pro bowl.
[01:41:06] Speaker C: And with that, before everybody blows a gasket, let's go ahead and take a quick revenue break.
[01:41:10] Speaker B: I'm gonna blow my ass. Get. Okay, well, whatever that means.
[01:41:14] Speaker C: Before you do that, let's take a quick revenue break. Then we'll come back here, we're gonna talk about a few events we have, and then we're gonna get to our interview with Bridget Linton.
[01:41:20] Speaker B: I seriously hate everything.
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All right, and so next up here, I want to talk about some upcoming events that we have for the burning river sportscast this summer, this offseason.
[01:42:12] Speaker B: Well, this is important, too, because we're taking a break from recording weekly shows.
[01:42:16] Speaker C: Yes, we are.
[01:42:17] Speaker B: This is where you'll be able to find us over the next few weeks.
[01:42:19] Speaker C: Keep, keep an eye on our social media. We'll still have plenty of content going out on social media. Plenty of reels, plenty of all kinds of stuff that we have built up. We still have fan crew stuff. We still have more reels from our interviews that we did beforehand. There'll be reels from this. There'll be all kinds of stuff. It's going to be, it's going to be good. Keep an eye on the social medias, but the events we have for sure planned as of right now for burning river sportscast are. We'll start things out with. On May 4. We have. Yep. May the fourth be with you, we have the 12th annual top dog tailgate from eleven to six at WJ Green Lodge in Berea, Ohio. So just so everybody knows in the area, there is a $25 donation per person to get into this. But that does include your food and alcohol while you're. While you're at the event. And all proceeds will benefit city dogs.
[01:43:06] Speaker B: Cleveland, and who doesn't love dogs?
[01:43:08] Speaker C: Who doesn't love dogs? And the charity that's helping put this on. So this is going to be a summer tailgate, right? Like an off season, tailgate style part party. There's gonna be cornhole tournaments. There's gonna be a beer pong tournament. There's gonna be raffles. And most importantly, and this is where city dogs Cleveland comes in, there are going to be adoptable dogs on site. That's kind of what this whole thing is driving towards, right?
[01:43:30] Speaker B: So hard to sit and look at those dogs and then not take one.
[01:43:33] Speaker C: I know. So burning River Sports guys is actually gonna be recording a podcast on this day, on site, doing some fan interviews, talking to some of the people that are putting on the event. It's gonna be a great time.
But, yeah, I mean, we're gonna be sitting there staring at a dog. My wife's coming to this event, and I'm pretty sure we're going home with one. So. Just saying.
[01:43:53] Speaker B: My wife will kill me.
[01:43:55] Speaker C: Yeah. And if you don't know him or haven't heard his story, then go ahead and look up the guy who is putting this whole thing on. He's the one that runs the top dog social media pages. His name is Eric Barr. Just a fascinating story. He belongs right up there in the conversation with some of the biggest and best browns fans that have come along. Just check his story out. Just google it. It'll come up. Cleveland.com did a story on him a while back. So.
[01:44:20] Speaker B: Well, I said we would take any fan of anything ever in Suplex City, them straight to the parts unknown. Speaker zero. So, Eric, suplex City, I guess.
[01:44:28] Speaker C: I don't know, but yeah. Check this thing out again. That's the 12th annual top dog tailgate on May 4 from eleven to six in Berea.
Next up, we have the third annual angry open to benefit the brownsbackers of North Jersey Cherry.
This thing will be happening on June 7 at Great Gorge Golf Course. Say that ten times fast. Great Gorge golf course in Vernon, New Jersey. It's a 930 shotgun start.
It'll be a scramble format, $150 per person. That $150 includes your golf breakfast, beer from the cart and the keg on course. On the course, and a barbecue dinner after golf. And who doesn't love barbecue?
[01:45:07] Speaker B: I love barbecue.
[01:45:08] Speaker C: I love barbecue. You'll talk about barbecue here soon, but sure, yeah. And there will also be, as always, part of these outings. There's going to be contests, there's going to be raffles, there's going to be prizes close to the pin, long drive. All that I'm sure is going to be a part of it. For more information on this one, we will not be here in person, but we are donating to the event. We are a sponsor of the event.
So for more information, please contact Bob Den Blaker. I think it's Blythe, Bob den Blaker. And you can reach him at brownsbackers of north
[email protected]. You can also check out their social media. They've got some information already out there about the golf outing here.
[01:45:49] Speaker B: They, why did they call the angry? They call him angry, don't they?
[01:45:53] Speaker C: He's always angry.
[01:45:54] Speaker B: We talked to these guys this year and now I remember the story about them calling him angry.
[01:45:59] Speaker C: Every time he's watching the games, he gets so angry. So they call him angry. Yeah. They said by, by the second quarter, he's just lighting up the tv.
[01:46:07] Speaker B: I mean, I wish we could go to this. This sounds like a blast to an event.
[01:46:10] Speaker C: I do, too. I do, too. Unfortunately, we do have an event that we are attending the very next day. Following day, the 23rd annual Kemp Brownsbackers golf outing is on June 8. And that's right where we grew up. It's Paradise Lake Country Club in Suffield, Ohio. It's dollar 100. I wrote per team. It's not a team. It's dollar 100 per person.
So let me fix that here for eastern notes. $100 per person. Proceeds benefit various charities that the Kemp brownsbackers are involved with. The person includes your greens fees, lunch at the turn and dinner afterwards. Not sure about the alcohol tickets typically. They do like two tickets or something like that. I'm not sure. We'll get clarification on that and speak.
[01:46:48] Speaker B: I think I've been to this outing in the past.
[01:46:50] Speaker C: We've done this.
[01:46:51] Speaker B: I think it's all you can drink with your ticket.
[01:46:54] Speaker C: We will get clarification. We won't say that for sure.
And we're going to be posting about all these things on our social media at some point, point or another. But there will be a very special guest or maybe even guests on hand for this one. We will also be there recording a podcast on site, doing some fan interviews again, and maybe even some other interviews as well with some of those special guests. Guests or guests that we just mentioned.
[01:47:19] Speaker B: Extra special guests.
[01:47:20] Speaker C: Yeah.
And so that one's going to be a lot of fun. We'll have contact information for this one as soon as we have more details. They haven't released all of the details yet.
[01:47:30] Speaker B: So these aren't outings just for Browns backers. This is any Browns fans, anybody that wants to sign up, sign up.
[01:47:36] Speaker C: That's just who it benefits.
[01:47:37] Speaker B: I will say, like I said, we actually had the pleasure of spending every night at dinner with the camp brownsbackers on the Browns fan cruise. Phenomenal people there that run an organization, very civic minded. They do their best to give back to local communities. I mean, this isn't money that gets fall out to state and big name don't. Like, this is, like, right here in your community.
So great charities to support and really great people that are running these outings.
[01:48:04] Speaker C: Absolutely. So, again, check our social medias for more information on all of those as it becomes available.
But that will lead us to what gets your dander.
[01:48:20] Speaker B: I'm gonna let you guys start. Mine might be a little bit longer than before.
[01:48:23] Speaker C: That's fine. This is a segment, in case anyone doesn't know. We started this recently. We didn't have enough time in our show, enough dedicated time to vent about the things that are pissing us off. So we decided to make a whole segment about it.
And this week, let's start with bone. Bone. What gets your dander up?
[01:48:40] Speaker D: All right, I'm throwing a wild card at you guys here. I switched it up, so.
[01:48:44] Speaker C: Oh, I have one written down for you.
[01:48:45] Speaker D: Yeah, I get a text today from the wife who's watching my nephew. It's spring break, so, you know that.
[01:48:51] Speaker B: Son of a.
[01:48:51] Speaker D: People gotta work.
[01:48:53] Speaker C: Get your dan.
[01:48:53] Speaker D: No.
[01:48:54] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I apologize to anybody I met.
[01:48:58] Speaker D: My daughter, just turned six and got a new toy. This little pop it thing. It's like a game that lights up and you try to pop it and hit all the lights down. I know she loves it. We just hear playing it all the time. He, for some reason, took a pencil and poked holes and all the poppets of my daughter's brand new toy and then lied about it for hours on end, I guess, at the house. And it's just like, dude, he's like nine or ten, you know, it's like.
[01:49:21] Speaker B: Why would you do that?
[01:49:22] Speaker D: It's like, what are you doing? So it's just like, a little.
[01:49:24] Speaker C: I know the pain that your daughter's feeling, not me, but my daughter also loves poppets.
[01:49:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:49:30] Speaker C: For whatever reason, this is like a thing with kids. They love poppets.
[01:49:33] Speaker D: I love my nephew. You know, he's a great little wrestler. Good kid. But it's just like, come on, man.
[01:49:38] Speaker C: Little wrestler.
[01:49:39] Speaker B: He is a good wrestler. Come on.
[01:49:40] Speaker C: What a little shithead. And I mean that with all due respect.
[01:49:43] Speaker B: Right? With all love.
[01:49:45] Speaker C: All love and respect.
[01:49:46] Speaker B: Do better, do better, do better.
[01:49:49] Speaker C: We're not mad. We're just disappointed.
[01:49:51] Speaker B: Super disappointed.
[01:49:52] Speaker C: Anyways, I'll go next here.
[01:49:54] Speaker B: Wait, wait, wait. Real quick. Because bone was selfless enough to be working with us on the fan cruise and actually missed. Or did you get home in time for the birthday party?
[01:50:04] Speaker D: I missed the friends party. We had another one over this past weekend with family.
[01:50:08] Speaker B: Everything okay there, though?
[01:50:10] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. She forgave me. Yeah.
[01:50:13] Speaker B: We're very sorry about that. So Bone did.
[01:50:14] Speaker C: I don't think you fully elaborated.
[01:50:16] Speaker D: I got her presence in Jamaica and in Nassau, so she was.
[01:50:19] Speaker C: We were lucky enough to be blessed with Bone's presence while his daughter was having a birthday back. Yeah, it was, like, all we. He almost made it.
[01:50:28] Speaker B: We appreciate you letting us borrow your daddy.
[01:50:31] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. Thanks, guys, gals.
But next up. So I'll go next year. I experienced this a lot on the Browns fan cruise, and it wasn't. Wasn't really with Browns fans, per se. It was more from pretty much everybody else on the cruise, and it really just started pissing me off all week.
[01:50:48] Speaker B: Kids.
[01:50:48] Speaker C: Yeah, a lot of kids. Mostly kids. So that's not 100% their fault. They just don't know the etiquette yet. But when you're 14 or 15, you should know that. I agree with that. But. But really, the adults, those really started pissing me off with this.
If I'm in an elevator, and I'm on the elevator already, and I'm coming up to my stop. Right? Hits the 11th floor, is what we'll use, because that's where we constantly. We're going, is to the pool deck and the buffet. Going to the 11th floor, the door opens up. Up. Who goes first?
[01:51:20] Speaker B: Generally the person inside the cat.
[01:51:22] Speaker C: The cab would get out. Right. The person that's in there, that's going to floor eleven should be leaving before the people get on. Right, because you make room. Yes. And then more people get on. Didn't happen on the cruise very often, and it was bullshit. I can't tell you the amount of people I had to fight to get off the elevator. I'm just like, are you serious? Like, this is where I'm going.
[01:51:42] Speaker B: It's true.
[01:51:42] Speaker C: And then you're getting on to go down, like, why are you running into me?
[01:51:46] Speaker B: Like, trucks?
[01:51:46] Speaker C: And then people would get pissed at you. You're like, I'm the one getting off the elevator, you idiot.
[01:51:52] Speaker B: If you don't let me off, we'll still be on here together and it.
[01:51:56] Speaker C: Won'T be the room for you to get off. In a lot of the cases, you can't get on. So what are you doing?
[01:52:03] Speaker B: And these weren't like, people of all ages. And these weren't like, if you think about like an elevator and like an office space, like, it's not that crowded usually.
[01:52:14] Speaker C: No, like packed to the gills crowded. Yeah.
[01:52:18] Speaker B: I mean, you're basically packed until you get to the floor where somebody gets off.
[01:52:21] Speaker C: I mean, you think for like the entire cruise ship, there's like 3500 plus people on this cruise ship, right? And there's like seven elevators that they. And people are literally constantly going up and down. Like, it's not like people stay in their rooms the entire time they, they're out and about and doing things.
[01:52:37] Speaker B: Yeah. And just get the hell out of the way.
[01:52:41] Speaker C: What the hell's wrong with you people?
[01:52:43] Speaker B: It's really funny. Cause I just remember them, like, truck sticking. Like 14 year old girls, like, trying to get out of the elevator. Cause they're just, they're just pouring in. I'm like, what are you doing?
[01:52:52] Speaker C: Just move.
[01:52:53] Speaker B: I can't get out if you're coming in.
[01:52:55] Speaker C: But I digress. Kenny, what gets your dander up?
[01:52:58] Speaker B: I got my dander up. This is all man government gubbins getting my dander up. Look, I'll try and keep this story brief, but I did want to highlight a local goings on since we are based here in northeast Ohio. Specifically, we all are from went to school in the field area, Brimfield, Zuffield, Macador area.
Government has run amok.
[01:53:21] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[01:53:23] Speaker B: There is a charming little barbecue joint. Barbecue food truck.
[01:53:29] Speaker C: Hell yes.
[01:53:30] Speaker B: Set up on a corner of 43 and 18 in Brimfield, Ohio. And he's been there for several years.
And the government will just cannot leave this guy alone. All he wants to do is bring great barbecue to his town. And when I say his barbecue is smacking, oh, people come from all over.
[01:53:54] Speaker C: It's good stuff all over the place. Listen, one thing that Ohio's not known for. Barbecue.
[01:53:58] Speaker B: Barbecue.
[01:53:59] Speaker C: But this guy is slaps.
[01:54:01] Speaker B: This guy makes excellent barbecue and everybody that goes there will tell you that. And he's been doing it for several years now out of what was first just a trailer with a smoker in it. And then as he's grown and had more employees, he had a second trailer brought onto the property. The property is his, it's his family's property.
I don't know specifically all the details there. I would love to get Joe from Joe's barbecue on the show or one of our shows to talk about this in depth because I'm not going to do the story justice, but essentially his family's property, I think he maybe pays his dad rent for the use of the land. They had a bar on the property for many years, but he basically started out selling ribs out of his dad's bar to people that would preorder them the night before. He'd smoke them all night and give them to him for dinner the next day.
Grew this into a legitimate business where he has several employees now that work for him. Smokes barbecue all day long and just does an excellent job and has been kind of a steward of the community.
He goes to all the different charity events and things for schools. And even though those things generally cost him money versus just a day where he's selling barbecue, like he goes and he does those things.
And the government, government has been just a thorn in his side every year, forcing him to do little things that just make his life difficult. And I'm just not here for it. I'm just here for the government to get out of this guy's way.
[01:55:29] Speaker C: Government.
[01:55:30] Speaker B: And then the government keeps saying things, you know, big G. Government keeps saying things like, you know, we're just here to make everybody's lives easier and make sure everybody has a fair shot.
You're doing it wrong if you're not letting this guy operate his business. He physically cannot operate his business right now because his license has not been approved yet because the county's dragging their feet.
[01:55:50] Speaker C: Oh, fun fact.
[01:55:53] Speaker B: And so what this gentleman has done is outsmart the government.
Take a real quick step back. This guy is open from eleven to five every day and generally sells out before then. So sells out like one. Keep that in mind. Well, not always, but like he's open to like eleven five and usually is sold out around four ish. So what he's done now is to outsmart the government is said, I'm just going to donate my food cause I can't legally sell it.
You come and pay me what you think it's worth as a donation. And I will just give all the money to my staff because they haven't been able to work for several weeks because this license has been in question.
And I will tell you that the support that I've seen from this community opportunity to come out to this guy's barbecue shop. I've been out there every, the last two weekends that he's been doing it. It's been 30 degrees in the morning. The line is 30 or 40 people deep. Before he opens the doors. I'm leaving my house. He opens at eleven. I left my house Sunday at a quarter after 10:00 so I was there, you know, before 1030, and I was. I was 30 deep when I got into line, you know, serpentine all around his parking lot and every car that drives by, honking the horn. I mean, this guy's Facebook posts are getting, you know, he would post, you know, barbecue pictures before you get your 20 or five or 30 legs. Like, oh, we like Joe's barbecue. These posts are getting 400, 500,000 likes.
[01:57:16] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[01:57:18] Speaker B: Because he's found a way to operate inside of the confines of, like, the government. Just not let. All this guy wants to do is make barbecue simple. He's subject to all the same food and health code regulations that every other restaurant in the city is, despite what.
[01:57:33] Speaker C: They might try and tell you he's with.
[01:57:35] Speaker B: When he moved in there, Brimfield did not have an ordinance or any kind of regulation around food trucks. So they came to him and said, like, we need to do something. And he was like, okay. And he was familiar with the business because he had worked, I think, on a family members food truck in Texas previously. So he helped them create the very first food license for food trucks in Brimfield. They have continually tightened and changed regulations on that food license for the last five years. Years, doing things like, you have to move your truck every 40 days or 30 days.
So you would call and say, look, how far do I got to move the. How far do I got to move the trailer? And, well, we don't really know. So you'd move it foot or whatever.
[01:58:13] Speaker C: Pictures and show them.
[01:58:14] Speaker B: I move the truck.
I'm trying to do everything you're telling me to do legally because you're making new rules after we've done this, so. But long story short, I just. The community outpouring to support this guy has been one of the coolest things that I've ever seen in my life, because, like I said, every car that drives by is honking the parking lot is full every day, and this guy is selling out by one or 02:00 every day. Selling donated out and puts a sign out, says donated out.
And just. What a great idea. Because you're giving back to your employees, you're giving back to the community in a certain way because you're saying, look, whatever, you can pay me, pay me, and we'll put that towards just paying our staff. And I just think it's a tremendous job story. Like I said, I'd love to get this guy on and, like, tell his whole story because he has details.
But just on the outside looking in, the way the community has rallied to support this guy. It's just been absolutely incredible. And the barbecue remains impeccable.
[01:59:09] Speaker C: Yeah. And I will say this is a story for a bigger segment. To your point about getting him on the show or another show of ours, but you just scratched the surface. And just to throw in one other thing is what we didn't get into is there's also a competing business that has somehow finagled their way into that local.
[01:59:30] Speaker B: That's why I don't have all the details. I'd rather have him tell it in his own words. I agree, but, yeah, that's part of it. There's competing.
[01:59:40] Speaker C: There's a lot of layers to this.
[01:59:42] Speaker B: The gentleman that is on the zoning board has a personal conflict of interest. That is the one guy that's making.
[01:59:48] Speaker C: And openly admits to have making most of the complaints against him.
[01:59:52] Speaker B: Yes. I mean, everybody, like, everybody knows it's this one guy. And he found himself, got himself appointed zoning board, basically to harass this guy.
[01:59:59] Speaker C: Yep. So that gets my dandruff.
[02:00:01] Speaker B: That gets my dandruff. Like, just let this guy make barbecue. There's not a lot of good barbecue joints out in this area.
[02:00:07] Speaker C: It's all right. Eventually, he's gonna have his brick and mortar shop and he's gonna shit all over that guy's.
[02:00:11] Speaker B: But, like, should he have to build a brick and mortar?
[02:00:13] Speaker C: No, he shouldn't have to, but when he does, he's gonna shit all over that guy.
[02:00:16] Speaker B: Um, you know, he was like, we were planning on brick and mortar, and then COVID happened, and, like. So we kind of put everything on hold during co because you couldn't go to brick and mortar.
[02:00:26] Speaker C: I was.
[02:00:26] Speaker B: I was thankful we were carry out only at that point, you know, so I don't know. But anyways, government needs to get out of the way. A small business like Joe's barbecue and let us all enjoy Joe's barbecue. And in the meantime, I hope the community continues to rally and show up there every day and make donations nations to sell out his food.
[02:00:45] Speaker C: I'm gonna try and go with you on Friday.
[02:00:46] Speaker B: Opening on the weekends right now. Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
Yeah, I'd like to go Friday and see if we can get a word with this guy because he's. He. He genuinely seems like a really nice guy. I know that he's, you know, put his heart and soul into this business, working 60, 8000 hours a week at times, especially when he's getting started to just make the best barbecue he possibly could, and it is really freaking good.
[02:01:07] Speaker C: Way to go, Joe.
[02:01:08] Speaker B: Way to go, Joe. You're our anti government hero of the day.
[02:01:12] Speaker C: Hero of the day. All right, and so with that, we'll move on here. We had an awesome time on the Browns fan cruise. Like we have already mentioned, and we have already mentioned, we were lucky enough to co Mc some of the events aboard the ship. We also had a beach cabana that we talked about that we were able to do interviews out of. We got to conduct other interviews in our remote studio that we set up on the cruise ship. But one of the highlights for sure was co em seeing some of the events on the main stage in the theater with our next guest, Bridget Linton. We got to interview her on the ship and discuss the event. So we're going to check that out now.
[02:01:57] Speaker B: Powered by Riverside FM.
All right, we are here on day five of the Cleveland Browns fan cruise, and we do have a special guest with us, Miss Bridget Linton.
She works for the Browns. We're going to talk about the fan crews here in a moment, but since we do have time with Bridget in studio today, I wanted to take just a few minutes time to kind of get to know you and your background. So if you could just tell us, like, a little bit about what exactly you do for the Browns outside of being, you know, the best MC in town.
[02:02:35] Speaker A: Oh, wow. What a compliment. Thank you so much. I actually prefer the Queen Bee MC that you guys gave to me at the beginning of the cruise. It's my new thing. I'm just going to like it.
[02:02:44] Speaker E: Don't forget the end of it. Queen Bee and master Mc.
[02:02:46] Speaker A: Ooh, I like the master MC.
[02:02:47] Speaker B: Change your Twitter handle to that.
[02:02:49] Speaker A: I'm changing it. You guys be on the lookout for that. Follow me on that one. Yep. So this was my second season with the Cleveland Browns, and I'm telling you, you guys, it's the best job I've ever had. So formerly I was with ESPN, I was doing radio with them, also doing sales and marketing. And then when the Browns hired me on, it reminded me, number one, how big of a Browns fan I am. Number two, how much I love being in that live event atmosphere. Like, there is no better atmosphere than a Cleveland Browns home game. The fans, they are die hard. When you're, I'm standing there on the sidelines, it's just electric. And I'm like, you know, what am I doing singing in a radio studio every day and doing sales? Like, this is where I belong. So after last season, I'm like, you know, the Browns, I'm leaving my radio and I'm going full on in the live event mc space. And it's been great. The Browns, I'm basically their official mc for any entertainment type of event that they do. So coming on here on this Browns fan cruise, the inaugural one has been amazing.
[02:03:43] Speaker B: So you basically do all the, like, live game day events in the stadium, all the giveaways and things between quarters.
[02:03:48] Speaker C: And all this stuff?
[02:03:49] Speaker A: Yes, yes. So during pregame, I will do like a preview of them matchups. That's the more sports take side of my job. So I will do research on both teams, kind of give key players who's to watch that game. So pregame is more like the serious part. And then during the game, let's just have fun with the fans. I'm doing giveaways, doing fun interviews, and then postgame, I usually do an interview with the players. That's if we win, which this season.
[02:04:11] Speaker B: We had a lot of home wins for sure.
[02:04:13] Speaker A: So it made it even better.
[02:04:14] Speaker C: Yeah.
[02:04:14] Speaker E: So if you're wondering where you've seen her before, game day, that's where you've seen her before.
[02:04:17] Speaker A: She's, you know, it's so funny. I'll be in downtown Cleveland or just in the area, and people are like, God, you look so familiar. Where would I know you from? And I'm like, are you a Browns fan? Maybe? And they're like, that's it. I'm like, yep.
[02:04:28] Speaker B: So you said you were a brown fan. Are you from northeast Ohio area originally?
[02:04:32] Speaker A: Yes, I was born in Akron, Ohio. Me and LeBron were just two kids from Akron. You know, all the goats are born in Akron. Oh. See, 330 represent.
Grew up in Greene, Ohio, and then went to University of Akron and then got hired with Fox Sports Ohio right out of college. Then I did ESPN here. So big northeast Ohio girl.
[02:04:49] Speaker B: So was it always, was it was football always kind of like the end game for you? Or was it just sports in general. You just a big sports fan growing.
[02:04:56] Speaker A: Up, you know, none of it was really planned. Yes. I was always a fan.
For me, I'm very tall. People assume, like, oh, basketball, volleyball. I'm like, actually irish dancing. That was, like, my life. People, like, say what I'm like, yes. I was a world class irish dancer.
[02:05:09] Speaker B: Wait, wait, wait. So you're, like, a trained irish dancer?
[02:05:12] Speaker A: Like, world class? Yeah.
[02:05:13] Speaker B: Really?
[02:05:13] Speaker A: Go to Ireland every year. Competed at the world level. The world championships of irish dance.
[02:05:17] Speaker B: Look, here's the thing. You can't just tell us that and, like, then not, like, give us, like, a quick dance.
[02:05:22] Speaker A: Oh, I can do that. And also, it's. It's march right now, and the fact that I have not done it on this cruise yet is shocking.
[02:05:27] Speaker E: We're definitely taking a video this afterwards. We're gonna insert it right in there while you talk.
[02:05:32] Speaker D: Yes.
[02:05:32] Speaker A: So that was my sport, right? It was. It was intense. Like, very intense. Training would travel all over the country and, of course, to Ireland. So I was my main sport, but I was also on my college dance team, so I was the one on the sidelines, like, informing. Okay, guys, this is where we cheer. I actually understood the game, and I knew I wanted to go into something broadcasting. I figured out, like, okay, I like being on camera. I like being on a microphone. And it took me a minute to realize, oh, that's a skill that not many people have. I loved doing the public speaking in classes, and I didn't realize people got nervous for that. I'm like, oh, this is so easy and fun. So I majored in mass media communication. Didn't really know what direction I was going to go, really, until I was graduating. I was heavily involved in ZTV, which was our student run broadcasting program. And I saw a job opened up at Fox Sports Ohio, and I had hosted our ZTV sports report. So a lot of my demo reel was around sports, and I was fortunate enough to get that job. And here I am now, still here.
[02:06:27] Speaker B: That's awesome, awesome, awesome.
[02:06:28] Speaker A: And I always, I always did say Brown was my dream job, like, when I was doing with Fox Sports, and I was also the in game host for the Cleveland Indians when they were still the Indians. And that was fun. And I always said, I'm like, but one day, one day I'm going to be on the Brown sidelines.
[02:06:42] Speaker C: Well, as much as people like to.
[02:06:44] Speaker E: Try and fight it, I mean, we all know it's a Cleveland or it's a football town. Oh, for sure. We love the Guardians. We love the Cavs, but the Browns is where it's at, so.
[02:06:53] Speaker A: Exactly. Brownstown through and through. Even when we're owing 16, people are still bleeding orange and brown over any other team in Cleveland, Ohio.
[02:07:01] Speaker B: That's a incredible story. And I love the fact that it's northeast Ohio all the way. All the way through university. That's great.
[02:07:07] Speaker A: Wait, what part of Akron are you guys from?
[02:07:09] Speaker B: So we're from, like, the Margaret area.
[02:07:12] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[02:07:12] Speaker E: So, like, we were born in Akron. I actually grew up in Kenmore for the first part of my childhood, and then we moved out of Kenmore and moved over to, like, field area. I grew up in Brimfield for the rest of Miami.
[02:07:24] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. Or, like, neighbors. And also, fun fact about my irish dancing. My first dance dance studio that I started out when I was four years old was in Kenmore.
[02:07:32] Speaker C: Yeah. See?
[02:07:33] Speaker D: Nice.
[02:07:33] Speaker E: I didn't even know they had that.
[02:07:35] Speaker D: I've actually lived. I've actually lived in green the last ten years of my life.
[02:07:38] Speaker A: You have?
[02:07:39] Speaker D: Yes.
[02:07:39] Speaker A: Where my parents live in Meadow wood, like, right next to that.
[02:07:41] Speaker D: Okay. I used to run through there all the time. I lived on Stece and I moved over across town, over by, like, the bell store.
[02:07:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[02:07:47] Speaker D: Area.
[02:07:48] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh, you guys, we just. We actually are neighbors, like, in the Bahamas to meet when we all grew up in northeast Ohio. Like, Akron area specifically.
[02:07:57] Speaker D: Yeah. So, you know. You know the house that gets all decorated at Christmas time?
[02:08:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
[02:08:00] Speaker D: Meadow Wood. Yeah. Yeah.
[02:08:01] Speaker A: The house is about to say it was, like, your family member or something.
[02:08:05] Speaker D: I think it was like a former principal or something at Green.
[02:08:08] Speaker A: The guy who does that, it's unbelievable, you guys. It's like an amusement park. Bones, like, sets it up.
[02:08:14] Speaker E: You know that house in Meadow wood, that's not my house.
[02:08:16] Speaker A: Yeah, I do know exactly the house that you're talking about.
[02:08:20] Speaker E: So, I mean, yeah, I mean, it's awesome that, like, you said, that you grew up in northeast Ohio, you kind of stayed in northeast Ohio. You're still working for the Browns. You kind of have your dream job.
But, you know, we are in Jamaica right now and not in northeast Ohio.
[02:08:34] Speaker C: But we're actually not in Jamaica. We're in the middle of the ocean.
[02:08:36] Speaker A: We're in the middle of the ocean.
[02:08:37] Speaker B: I don't know where we are.
[02:08:38] Speaker A: We were in Jamaica at some point.
[02:08:39] Speaker C: Yeah.
[02:08:40] Speaker E: So obviously, the inaugural Cleveland Browns fan cruise, they did actually just announced today that they will be doing another one. So that's really exciting.
[02:08:49] Speaker C: Can you tell.
[02:08:50] Speaker E: Tell us a little bit about what you know, about the next one.
[02:08:53] Speaker A: Well, it's great because I just found out as well. So all the fans that are here, I mean, that's huge. They got to be the first ones to get to know that announcement. And I knew minutes before that, which was so cool. And seaside did say, mark those dates down. So I think that means I'm back. I'm sure you guys are, too.
[02:09:08] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[02:09:08] Speaker A: Okay, great. And it's March 3 through the 7th, so we're, like, less than a year away already.
[02:09:13] Speaker E: And I know from what we know so far, far, it's gonna be a four night cruise where there's gonna be one stop.
[02:09:21] Speaker C: What's the stop, guys?
[02:09:22] Speaker B: Coco key.
[02:09:23] Speaker C: Coco key.
[02:09:23] Speaker A: Which I've heard is, like, an amazing private island.
[02:09:25] Speaker B: Yes.
[02:09:26] Speaker C: Yes. Yeah.
[02:09:26] Speaker E: So the beach party there is about.
[02:09:28] Speaker B: To be lit all inclusive.
[02:09:30] Speaker E: Yes.
[02:09:30] Speaker C: Yes.
[02:09:31] Speaker B: So this one looks to be priced, like, really aggressively, I think they said, starting packages at $1900, which is really competitive.
[02:09:37] Speaker A: And then all the fans that are on this cruise, they get 5% off of that, which is amazing. And what is so cool is all the alumni. They're just as excited as the fans when they saw the dates. Well, why is it only four nights? I wanted it to be longer. I'm like, well, hey, if I was a retired NFL player, I would want to be on a cruise for much longer as well.
[02:09:54] Speaker C: Right.
[02:09:54] Speaker E: And if all the fans had unlimited money, it'd probably be like 50 days.
[02:09:58] Speaker A: Exactly.
[02:09:59] Speaker E: Spend all your time at sea.
[02:10:00] Speaker A: But the good thing is, if this class of alumni, they all come back, they're still gonna invite others. So it's gonna be probably a much bigger class of alumni that'll be here in 2025, which is really exciting, for sure.
[02:10:11] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I think they're gonna probably. I think. I think given that we've. Now they've done it, we have kind of a track record and promotional things to share. People are gonna be really excited about jumping on the second one, so hopefully we'll definitely see some more alumni at the next event.
[02:10:24] Speaker E: When you speak about promotional stuff, I mean, just speak about your experiences that you've had on the fan cruise this time and kind of what it's been all about.
[02:10:32] Speaker A: It has been so fun. I'm, like, so sad that it's coming to an end at this point, and people are like, oh, wow. Like, yeah, you have to go and work for that many days. I'm like, this is not work of me. It is technically work. And I guess that's when you say it's a dream job. Because when you feel like work is just a hobby and something fun that you want to do, but then also just getting to know the fans, getting to know the alumni, I've met a lot of them before, but some of them I haven't. And it's just so cool to see how much fun they're having. I mean, you guys saw today we did these challenges, which was so fun.
[02:11:01] Speaker E: We got lots of good pictures from that.
[02:11:02] Speaker A: So I'm sure those are, stay tuned for that. Like, the fact that they got so passionate about it and became friends with the fans was so cool. I know, just thinking back to the welcome party seems like it was forever ago.
[02:11:14] Speaker E: And I will say, you know, one of the big draws of this whole thing was being able to mingle with the players like they're normal people.
And I don't think that people that miss the cruise, they don't understand just how much of that was done throughout the week. I mean, I was walking around deck, I saw Eric Mecklenburg, saw, I Kevin Mack, I saw Frank stams. I saw everybody just walking around, hanging out. HaNFORD Dixon, I go on and on and you get to talk to all of them and they're all very generous with their time. I mean, they're here for you guys while it is a vacation for them as well. They're here for the fans and they want to see you guys. They want to talk to you and.
[02:11:48] Speaker A: They have so much fun, too. I asked some of the alumni, what was your favorite part of the crew so far? And they say the dinners. So each fan one night gets to sit with an alumni and they get to ask any questions, questions they want. And the alumni are like, they ask the best questions. And the alumni, they're open books. They don't care. They're not working for the NFL anymore. They're like, whatever you want to know, we're going to tell you. So these fans are getting a very exclusive experience that not many people can say they have, right.
[02:12:12] Speaker E: Things that fans, like normal people would not know about the game or what's happened in the game.
[02:12:17] Speaker A: I mean, even Hanford Dixon telling the story of where he came up with the dog pound, I didn't know that.
[02:12:22] Speaker C: Right.
[02:12:23] Speaker E: And there's, and he even said when he was talking about it, there's some, some, like, you know, some people say, a lot of people say it happened this way.
[02:12:29] Speaker C: Really?
[02:12:30] Speaker A: This is how. Yes. So it's so cool, even for me to hear these stories that I thought I knew, but I really didn't.
[02:12:36] Speaker C: Right?
[02:12:37] Speaker B: Yeah. I think that's the things that stick out to me is it's like these guys have been so generous with their time with the fans and they also just love talking about their playing days and like all the things they really are. Open books. I know the way they did dinner on this cruise in particular. It's like they had had like 530 dinner. But then they turn everything over for like 730 or 08:00 and I know we were walking out of there at the end of dinnertime and Greco and these guys, like, they had to be kicked out of this place because they just could not stop talking. I want to tell more stories. And they're like, we gotta get people in here for dinner too, so. Right.
[02:13:07] Speaker A: Well, my favorite was, you know, we hosted the breakout sessions, which was probably my favorite part of the cruise because again, I asked questions that I thought I knew the answer to. But then they told me stories that I've never heard before. And obviously that was for the fans in the crowd. But one of the topics, the themes was life after the NFL. And every time I'd ask a question about life after the NFL, somehow their answer got back to their time play. They love to reminisce about it. Like, maybe we should change that theme up and just reminisce all day long.
[02:13:33] Speaker C: Yeah.
[02:13:33] Speaker E: When we were talking about life as a brown. I know you. You ask one question, if you ask the right question, all of a sudden there's six other guys on stage that.
[02:13:41] Speaker B: Are all just like pings across.
[02:13:43] Speaker E: Like, oh, I have this one and then I have this one. And so it was really. The breakout sessions were really, really fun.
[02:13:50] Speaker A: And personally, I love the dance party. Talk about I love to dance. So I left that place like, drenched and sweat and I'm like, you know, I'm not in college anymore. I need to relax a little bit.
[02:13:59] Speaker E: I might have broken down a little too hard.
[02:14:00] Speaker B: The dance party was lit. I mean, we have the one video of Frank stamps just rolling on the floor with like a toddler.
[02:14:07] Speaker E: Like, I think it was his grandson.
[02:14:09] Speaker C: If I'm not mistaken.
[02:14:10] Speaker A: Yes, it was great. Well, and then, like, the brown staff, like, Bridget, you like to dance? Like, go out there there to get it started. I'm like, say less. I don't think I ever left.
[02:14:17] Speaker D: Did you break out any irish dancing?
[02:14:18] Speaker A: No. That's what I'm saying. It's crazy that I haven't done it.
[02:14:20] Speaker D: Okay.
[02:14:21] Speaker A: The DJ was not a fan of me because I kept going up and requesting songs. So at one point he's like, can you let me do my job. I'm like, yeah, but you're not very good at it.
[02:14:27] Speaker D: So that was well done.
[02:14:29] Speaker A: Let me get back there.
[02:14:29] Speaker D: That was well done on your point. Because I think it took a minute for people to start dancing, and I noticed you walk over the DJ, and then after that, I think the Casper side or something came on and people started coming down and enjoying the something.
[02:14:40] Speaker A: A line dance just to get people to feel comfortable. And so I'm like, they obviously like that. I'm like, just keep doing it. It's not my favorite. I'm like, keep doing it. He's like, that's not the way you run a party here. I'm like, well, seems like I know what I'm doing over here.
[02:14:53] Speaker C: Yeah, there's a cruise ship party, and.
[02:14:54] Speaker E: Then there's a Cleveland Browns party.
[02:14:55] Speaker A: Like, did you not hear me? I'm queen Bee master.
[02:14:59] Speaker B: He didn't see your Twitter handle.
[02:15:01] Speaker A: Yeah, he hasn't gotten it yet, so.
[02:15:02] Speaker C: I know there's, you know, we are.
[02:15:04] Speaker B: It's crazy.
[02:15:05] Speaker E: We're getting to the end of the cruise. We're starting to wrap things up. We do have a couple more events later today.
I mean, what can you say to everybody that missed this one? Just as a final word for. We mentioned the next cruise. They are going to do it again. So what's your final word to fans?
[02:15:22] Speaker A: I mean, if you're a Browns fan, you like to have fun, you want to meet alumni, and you want to have a nice vacation. This is literally the dream vacation. And again, what I'm saying, you get to meet alumni. It's not like we're sitting at tables and signing autographs. No, you, you're having dinner with them, you're having drinks with them, you're having meaningful conversations. It has been such a privilege for me. And to hear these fans say this cruise has been life changing, that is huge. That is, like, unbelievable to hear. There was one fan, we were having a great conversation, and she cried. She said, you know, I've been going through so much in my personal life, you know, health issues and all that. She's like, I didn't realize how much I needed this cruise until I'm here. She's like, this cruise really changed my life, and I have such a more powerful mindset now because I want to get my health right to come back next year. I just thought that was so amazing.
[02:16:06] Speaker B: Just giving goosebumps. That's insane.
[02:16:09] Speaker E: And there's been a number of good stories. I mean, don't want to spoil everything, but I mean, there was a wedding that was officiated by Webster Slaughter, a surprise wedding. The groom, I don't even think the bride knew everything that was going to be happening, but Webster slaughter officiated. Josh Cribs was the ring bearer.
[02:16:27] Speaker B: What better ring bearer?
[02:16:28] Speaker A: Maid of honor. Best man.
[02:16:30] Speaker E: Chomps was the maid of honor. The bride and groom, it was just them on board the ship. Like, they didn't have any other family. And so the rest of the Browns alumni attended and gave her away. They stood up and said, we do, when you asked, who gives her away?
[02:16:42] Speaker A: So I see now that gave me good. I was there, and I was like, this is so cool.
[02:16:46] Speaker B: In unison.
[02:16:46] Speaker A: Yes.
[02:16:47] Speaker B: That was cool.
[02:16:48] Speaker C: I know. So just.
[02:16:49] Speaker E: I mean, anything.
[02:16:49] Speaker A: You just never know what's gonna happen.
[02:16:51] Speaker C: Anything could happen.
[02:16:51] Speaker A: What happens on the career stays on the career side.
[02:16:53] Speaker B: The other really cool part of this cruise was not only just interacting with the alumni, but, like, you're surrounded by Brown's fans. I mean, we've heard so many cool stories. I mean, we were speaking of weddings. Like, we heard one story about, like, husband wanted to be married to brown's colors. So, like, they did, like, brown and orange is, like, their wedding colors. They had orange flowers.
[02:17:10] Speaker C: It actually looked really nice. I was surprised. I was like, how do you make brown and orange work?
[02:17:13] Speaker E: But it was a fall wedding, so they did, like, brown suits with, like, a. Like, what the.
He had an orange tie. The rest of the grooms had a white tie, and it was like a. Almost like a cream colored shirt and, like, an orange pocket square. It was fantastic.
[02:17:25] Speaker B: And, like, we ended up sitting at a table for dinner most nights with, like, other people from, like, the Kent Brownsbackers. Like, yep, it was great. So you're talking to Brown's fans all week long. Talking to Brown's players all week long. And just getting to know all these different people, and it's like, these people were really cool. I would probably talk to them after. We're, like, be friends with these people.
[02:17:41] Speaker A: And the fact that they know so much about the Browns. I also. We just got done with the trivia, the final competition. I mean, I thought I knew a lot about the Browns, and I was sitting next to a guy, and he's not even on stage playing. He knew every single answer. I'm like, these are die hard fans.
[02:17:57] Speaker B: Oh, I love the. Like, some of them were like, where'd this player go to high school? Yeah, they knew.
[02:18:01] Speaker A: I'm like, it's crazy.
[02:18:02] Speaker C: Yeah.
[02:18:03] Speaker E: And so, you know, you speak of us all being die hard fans, that's all of us included. So I know you're on the field every day for during the season. You get to see a lot of things that a lot of people of don't see. So what is your prediction for this next season?
[02:18:17] Speaker A: I really do. I don't know why, but I always trust my gut. And going into this last season, I knew that we were going to have a successful season, but I'm like, I don't think we're quite ready for the Super bowl. I'm telling you, this team, the talent that we have on this team, especially if we have the players come back healthy. I mean, Nick Chubb coming back healthy, that is key. Obviously Deshaun Watson as well. But now we have got Jameis Winston, too. So if Deshawn isn't healthy, like, I feel confident and that I'm really kind of sad we're not going to get Joe Flacco back. He was more of not only what he did on the field, just a genuine guy.
[02:18:48] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[02:18:49] Speaker A: So nice. He'd bring his family after the games, bring them on the field like he was a little kid again. He's like, this is the game I've grown up loving. And the fact that Cleveland embraced him so much was amazing. So I just feel like even though we didn't get as far as obviously the team and the fans had hoped, it still ended on a good note. And I feel like it's going to be even better next year.
[02:19:06] Speaker B: I mean, those six weeks or whatever, it was magical. Just the most magical.
[02:19:09] Speaker E: We refer to that timeframe as the legend of Cleveland Brown's quarterback, Joe Flacco.
[02:19:16] Speaker A: I always say, people ask me, what's been the highlight of your career? And it's always hard to pinpoint one event or one interview.
This cruise might be up there now, I will say, but that Thursday night game, that is, it will go down in history as one of my favorite work events nights. Even if I was there as a fan, I think I'd probably say the same thing. It was the most electric atmosphere ever and just to see the guys, like, celebrate and be so excited. The camaraderie on this team also is why I think they're gonna have so much success. Like, in years past, there were so many issues in the locker room that's not there anymore. They truly like each other.
[02:19:50] Speaker E: And to your point, on a Thursday night. Yeah, I remember watching it and I was like, I have like, it's coming through my tv and I feel deafening with the crowd. I was like, I've never heard an NFL crowd like this in my life.
[02:19:59] Speaker A: Yes.
[02:20:00] Speaker C: So.
[02:20:00] Speaker A: And I shout out to my team that does all the production going into. They went full out. We did a whole light show. It was an app. Like, through the app. Yeah. It would light up and so play a certain music. Hold up your phone. Like, we went all out with it. So it was more of not just a game, but also an entertainment piece to it. And then to win, it was awesome.
[02:20:18] Speaker B: I would echo the shout out to your team, at least the folks over here this week, they've been incredibly nice to us. Like, there was no. There was no, like, competing for ground or anything like that. They've been super helpful. We've been, like, showing them our equipment, probably been looking at theirs.
[02:20:30] Speaker E: Connor was looking at our cameras, talking about our setup. He helped me with my gimbal. Everything is.
[02:20:34] Speaker B: They've all been super awesome this week.
[02:20:35] Speaker A: And for me, I've only known them in more of, like, that professional atmosphere. Like, on game days. Yes. Connor, he's there filming Corey, he is like, the marketing guru, but anything. I always see him running around on game days.
And Wendy, who's been great with the whole partnership, and then Annie, who is obviously helping with the alumni. I've only known them in that work capacity, and so for this trip, for me, me to translate co workers into friends has been so fun. Like, they are the best. And again, so helpful, so fun. We all like to party, so we had that in common. So it worked out.
[02:21:05] Speaker B: Absolutely. So, obviously, this is off season now. I mean, you have events like this that are kind of special, that come up throughout the year. But, like. Like, how, like, do the Browns keep you busy with different things all off season long? Like, they're just like, what's that? Like, an off season? I mean, obviously, you're running full speed during the season, for sure.
[02:21:22] Speaker A: For the Browns, it does tailor back a little bit. We do. We'll do events, you know, around the NFL draft or a partnership type of event, and usually they'll have me host those events, but right now, cross country mortgage, they're one of the biggest sponsor. They are the biggest partnership and sponsor of the Cleveland Browns. So they hired me on as the. What was that?
[02:21:41] Speaker E: I gave him a nod. I used to work there.
[02:21:43] Speaker A: Oh, you did?
[02:21:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I just left there at the end of last year, but I was.
[02:21:47] Speaker A: Well, I'm like their face now, so I'm their spokesperson, which is. Which they've been keeping me really busy. And again, that just attests to how much I love working with the Cleveland Browns. Like, if I didn't do that, that door wouldn't have opened. So cross country keeps me really busy. I'm also one of the official hosts and MC's for the Miss Universe organization. So really, when Brown season ends, pageant season kicks in. So starting in April, the first week, I am gone, like, every weekend, you're just running.
[02:22:14] Speaker B: Running USA. Yeah.
[02:22:16] Speaker C: You bring some something up.
[02:22:17] Speaker E: Weren't you in that pageant?
[02:22:18] Speaker A: Yeah, like, 100 years ago.
Don't age me. Didn't you, like, win something again 100 years ago? I was Miss Ohio Teen USA in 2010.
So it's been cool to translate into the MC role, which I love. And also, like, on game days, this is what I'm wearing. You know, I'm wearing a browns t shirt, and then that season ends, and it's like full glam and gowns. So it's kind of a nice little mix for my life.
[02:22:41] Speaker B: Speaking of cross country, like, so if you had the chance to meet, like, their executive team or do you more than mainly work their market, like, you know Ron?
[02:22:47] Speaker A: Yep. So, yeah, I work with Ron really closely.
[02:22:49] Speaker B: So incredible guy.
[02:22:52] Speaker A: He's so fascinating because he's so successful and so smart. The way he's able to build what cross country mortgage is today, but you would never know it. Like, if you meet him, you're like, oh, yeah, he's just a regular guy. You would never know, like, the money he has, the success he has, because he's humble, and he built it from.
[02:23:05] Speaker B: The ground up 100%. And now they're. Now they're like a top ten lender. They're huge.
[02:23:10] Speaker A: They're really huge.
[02:23:11] Speaker B: Like you said, like, you run into the guy and he's wearing, like, sweatpants and, like, a hoodie.
[02:23:16] Speaker A: Yes. He's always wearing a t shirt, jeans, like, cool nikes.
[02:23:19] Speaker B: Yeah, everyone doesn't have great shoes on. Yes.
[02:23:22] Speaker A: Everyone else is coming in suits. And then there's, like, Ron. He's like, hey, what's up with my t shirt and jeans? I'm like, hey, you're the CEO. You do what you want.
[02:23:27] Speaker B: That's right.
[02:23:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Did you ever work with, like, Laura suave?
[02:23:30] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[02:23:30] Speaker A: Chief branding officer. So she's the one that really brought me onto the team, which is. She's been amazing to work with.
[02:23:35] Speaker E: I'm gonna sit back. I don't know anybody across the.
[02:23:38] Speaker B: No, we can talk shops when we die.
[02:23:41] Speaker A: We're on Brown's podcast right now, but.
[02:23:44] Speaker B: No, it's awesome you're involved with cross country, and then obviously, the pageant stuff as well. So it sounds like you have a busy spring and summer ahead of you, right?
[02:23:52] Speaker A: Yeah, we see a lot of things in Cleveland, too. There's events, obviously, we're having the final four, women's final four coming to Cleveland. So I'll work with the Cleveland Sports Commission, doing some events with them. We have the Cleveland sports awards a few weeks back, so I work with them. So I'm kind of in that, like, independent contractor freelance space. So I work with a lot of people.
[02:24:09] Speaker B: You love it.
[02:24:09] Speaker A: So if you guys ever need a host or MC, give me a call.
[02:24:12] Speaker C: Free plug.
[02:24:13] Speaker E: Is there any way that you're gonna be able to squeeze into, like, WWE SummerSlam?
[02:24:17] Speaker A: I'm gonna try, yeah, anytime, like, Cleveland announces something, I'm like, who do I need to talk to? That's all. Never regret doing sales at ESPN because I learned how to network like crazy and hustle. So I'm like, who do I need to meet? Who do I need to call and let them know I'm good on a microphone?
[02:24:32] Speaker B: Yeah, she's great on a microphone.
[02:24:34] Speaker A: Can't sing, but I can talk.
[02:24:36] Speaker E: If she's once again queen Bee master Mc.
[02:24:38] Speaker B: If someone does need a queen bee master MC, is there a special place for them to reach out to you? Do you have contact information?
[02:24:43] Speaker A: A lot of people do reach out to me on social media, which is great. So my instagram is Ridget Linton Eight. And then Twitter is a Linton soon to be changed Queen Bee master MC. But also email is great, too. Bridgetlinton eightmail.com. Eight's my lucky number, so that's why it's always in there.
[02:24:59] Speaker C: It's my college football number. It.
[02:25:01] Speaker A: See, we're just meant to be friends.
[02:25:02] Speaker C: Yeah.
[02:25:03] Speaker A: Akron. Akron crew number eight. Browns fans.
[02:25:07] Speaker B: Exactly.
[02:25:07] Speaker A: Browns. Cruz. We're like, the first people on the microphones.
[02:25:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[02:25:12] Speaker C: Yeah.
[02:25:14] Speaker E: You mentioned something earlier about how we have done a lot of events and things. The only reason that you would know we've worked so much is because of, like, you can hear my voice right now.
[02:25:24] Speaker C: I'm, like, dying.
[02:25:25] Speaker E: We've just talked nonsense.
[02:25:27] Speaker A: It's been a long week, and today I have a lot of talking. Oh, my God, guys, I'm so sorry. I'm really raspy. I'm trying to do the tea and honey and chug water.
[02:25:33] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[02:25:34] Speaker A: Last time.
[02:25:34] Speaker B: You still sound great. You still. You're a true professional, not like a schmucks. Thank you.
[02:25:39] Speaker A: I'm just hoping I, like, have some energy for St. Patrick's Day because we land on the 16th. And I just gotta get up and.
[02:25:45] Speaker C: Yeah, we gotta drive.
[02:25:46] Speaker E: So we actually.
We arrived back home on St. Patrick's Day. The first thing I'm doing is going. My wife is. She's Irish, Irish Italian. And so we're gonna go probably get some green beer as soon as you have to.
[02:25:58] Speaker A: Just gotta keep the party rolling. March 18, you can sleep.
[02:26:01] Speaker E: Yeah, I'm gonna be dead tired, but I'm gonna make it work.
But, hey, listen, it's been great having you on the show here. We really appreciate it. We've loved sharing the stage with you here on the Cleveland Browns fan Cruz. And, yeah, I mean, like we said, definitely check it out for next year. Four nights, one stop.
[02:26:20] Speaker B: Keeping the party rolling just right into next March.
[02:26:22] Speaker A: Yeah, it'll be here before we know it. I have to say, you guys have been doing such an amazing job. Thanks so much for helping out with the breakout sessions. You had such great questions. I had so much fun watching. And then also the beach party. Like, you guys are, like, partying, having fun when you, like, walked out in the ocean. And we're interviewing Josh cribs. I'm like, these guys? Yeah, those are my kind of guys right there.
[02:26:41] Speaker C: Yeah. Stay tuned for that.
[02:26:42] Speaker E: That was actually probably my highlight of the whole trip, was when we interviewed.
[02:26:46] Speaker A: Josh Crip in the ocean, literally, in Jamaica.
[02:26:49] Speaker C: He was out there, and I walked out.
[02:26:50] Speaker E: I was like, you think you could do an interview out here?
[02:26:52] Speaker C: He goes, I'd prefer it, like, literally.
[02:26:55] Speaker A: You guys are probably the only people that will ever be able to say, I interviewed Josh Cribbs in the ocean in Jamaica.
[02:27:00] Speaker C: Yeah.
[02:27:01] Speaker B: And we were terrified. We were like, our equipment, it's not waterproof stuff.
[02:27:05] Speaker D: Do not drop that camera.
[02:27:06] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what I need. I'm like, these guys, number one, are high tech, but they're also professionals and also the coolest people I know.
[02:27:13] Speaker B: We appreciate that. Bronx said. It's been great to have you on the show, but all in all, just continue to keep that party rolling right through next month. We're excited. Hopefully, do it all again, and we'll see you next year.
[02:27:24] Speaker A: See you next year.
[02:27:25] Speaker E: Thanks a lot.
[02:27:37] Speaker B: Powered by Riverside FM.
[02:27:55] Speaker C: Man, awesome time sharing the stage with Bridget and getting to talk to her for the show, huh?
[02:28:00] Speaker B: Bridget was one of, like, the nice little surprises. Like, honestly, like, we didn't. We hadn't met Bridget before.
We weren't sure, like, who. What the Browns media team was gonna look like.
Very pleasantly surprised. Like, she was so nice, so genuine. So just. Just generous with us and like, and talking to us. And as we were planning, you know, back and forth on stage and as we were trying to figure out, like, who goes where, does that. And during sound checks and things. And for her to sit down and spend all that time with us, you know, like I said, we were busy running from vet to it. She was busy running from event to event. So the fact that she took a half hour out of her day to sit down and talk with us was very awesome. I think the coolest thing is, like she said during the interview, is like, it took us all to go to Jamaica and the Bahamas to realize, like, we all grew up and, like, went to, like, it's school, like five minutes apart. She literally, after. After all this, I found out that she ran track and cross country with, like, my cousin Brandon, who's like a year older than me, it's like, yeah.
[02:29:02] Speaker C: And then I found out that her, one of her closest friends worked for my cousin, my cousin in law, as a bartender at his restaurant. So it's like. And her and her friends, they frequented there for quite some time. So it's just.
[02:29:17] Speaker B: And we just all end up on a boat together in the middle of.
[02:29:18] Speaker C: The Bahamas, just talking about the browns.
[02:29:21] Speaker B: Bone. Bone was even talking about the neighborhood where she grew up.
[02:29:24] Speaker D: Yeah, I would run through slides. I just missed that area.
[02:29:28] Speaker C: If you guys know the house, what street is it?
[02:29:30] Speaker D: It's in Meadow Wood, but it's a Christmas house where he decorates. It's just decked out.
[02:29:35] Speaker C: Yeah. If you know that house, it's not bones. It's not bones house.
[02:29:40] Speaker B: But, yeah, super nice. A lot of fun.
[02:29:42] Speaker C: Great.
[02:29:43] Speaker B: Getting a chance to meet her.
[02:29:44] Speaker C: Absolutely. And so with that, let me remind you to call the burning river sports status. Hot tank high.
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[02:29:57] Speaker B: Hot takes draft. Hot takes coaching.
[02:29:59] Speaker C: Extension.
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[02:30:19] Speaker D: Nobody's standing by?
[02:30:20] Speaker B: Nope.
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[02:30:36] Speaker B: Here's the thing. I'm going on an actual vacation next week. I won't be around at all.
In terms of those that are listening, watching to our shows, we appreciate the fact that you've supported us all year long and all off season to this point. We will be taking a much needed kind of offseason sabbatical here, where we will be off our regularly scheduled weekly podcast for a few weeks. We got regroup, recharge, and we need to make plans for how we are best going to tackle this upcoming brown season. I think we have a few things already in mind and then, and, you know, in plan that we want to flesh out and do to make sure that we're delivering the best browns news and coverage, as well as plenty of info entertainment along the way.
So we will have a couple things. I know we mentioned, like, we have the charity event coming up that we'll be broadcasting podcasting from. We have a golf we'll be podcasting from. So we'll have a few episodes here and there. As the offseason continues, we may get together, like right after the draft and kind of recap the draft, some of those things. So we'll have some episodes. Keep your eye on our socials. We'll announce them plenty of social media as they're ready to go. We have tons of content, footage to share still from the fan crews, interviews with players, with.
[02:31:58] Speaker C: Fans, fans.
[02:31:59] Speaker B: Yeah, we got all kinds of share still. So keep, like I said, eye on the socials for new episodes and all the things that we have to share still from this season.
[02:32:08] Speaker C: That was a lot of sentences to say. Bottom line, we're gonna recharge, come back stronger than ever, and be the best damn pot in the land.
[02:32:15] Speaker B: That's right.
[02:32:16] Speaker C: So with that, don't forget to check us out on social media. Tapping media is on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. At the tapping media, I'm burning every sportscast that's this. This podcast is on Facebook, Instagram, Tick Tock, and YouTube, burning Sportscast. And on xerningoverpod, you can find our podcast wherever you get your podcast, Target, app, podcast, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, Pandora, heart Radio, podcast, Castro, good pods, and so many more. And you know what? That takes us to get it.
[02:32:38] Speaker A: Yay.
[02:32:39] Speaker B: Facts for days.
All right, facts for days.
[02:32:53] Speaker C: We will keep these brief.
[02:32:54] Speaker B: Cause I do have a couple of questions that we'd like to personally victimize. Bone with.
Facts for bringing it back. Facts for days. You guys are gonna be so excited because I've got a collection of your favorite types of facts or did you do whale facts? It's about blue whales. I got chastised on the boat. We're not having enough whale facts.
[02:33:15] Speaker C: Hell, yeah.
[02:33:15] Speaker D: You're the greatest.
[02:33:16] Speaker B: We brought them back for the post.
[02:33:18] Speaker C: Who doesn't love a good whale fact.
[02:33:19] Speaker B: For the post cruise show? Number one, although blue whales appear blue underwater, they're actually blue gray in color. Their bellies, though, are yellow. Yellow due to the millions of microorganisms and diatoms that attach to and live on their bodies as they swim in nutrient rich waters.
[02:33:42] Speaker C: I actually knew the gray fact just because with advances in modern technology and cameras being what they are now, like, when they come up and they breach, you could actually tell.
[02:33:54] Speaker B: But did you know their bellies were yellow?
[02:33:55] Speaker C: No, I thought they were white, but I guess they're kind of like an off white. So like a.
[02:34:00] Speaker B: So off white, this yellow teeth, I guess.
[02:34:03] Speaker C: Yeah. Number two teeth.
[02:34:05] Speaker B: Thanks.
A blue whale. Get ready.
[02:34:08] Speaker C: Oh, boy.
[02:34:09] Speaker B: Could swallow up to 100 human beings at a time.
[02:34:14] Speaker C: What?
No.
[02:34:16] Speaker B: The mouth of a blue whale is truly. Exactly.
[02:34:18] Speaker C: No, just stop it. I can't take it inside.
[02:34:21] Speaker B: At one time, it could hold up to 100 people due to the very flexible nature.
[02:34:26] Speaker D: That's wild.
[02:34:27] Speaker C: 100 of you just says 100 people?
[02:34:31] Speaker B: Doesn't specify.
Thanks to the 80 to 100 long grooves that run along its throat and chest. So it's just a massive hole. It's basically like the world's biggest elevator.
[02:34:44] Speaker D: That's huge hole.
[02:34:48] Speaker B: And number three, what we know these creatures are big.
[02:34:54] Speaker C: 100 people big.
[02:34:55] Speaker B: Just how big are they?
[02:34:57] Speaker C: Large.
[02:34:57] Speaker B: Well, these majestic creatures can be as large as a Boeing 737.
Weigh up to 150 tons.
The females are larger than males, and they're not only enormous in size, but weight, 150 tons.
[02:35:15] Speaker C: Like 300,000 pounds.
[02:35:20] Speaker B: What?
Yeah. They're so big. Their tongue, for example, is the size of a full grown elephant.
Jeez.
[02:35:30] Speaker C: Holy hell.
[02:35:30] Speaker B: Which makes it the heaviest tongue of any species on the planet.
[02:35:33] Speaker C: It's as big as the biggest land mammal.
[02:35:36] Speaker B: And a blue whale's rounded heart can weigh up to 500 pounds just by itself, which is the equivalent of a piano or a Harley Davidson motorcycle. Wow. And finally, its skull is so colossal, can be oftentimes the size of a small house.
[02:35:56] Speaker C: What the hell just happened?
[02:35:59] Speaker D: They're so big.
[02:36:00] Speaker B: So big.
[02:36:03] Speaker C: It's like blue whale facts are the.
[02:36:05] Speaker D: Best, because this is unimaginable.
[02:36:08] Speaker C: I'm legitimately having trouble wrapping my brain around the fact that there's a living creature on this planet whose head is as big as a house. And you said a small house. I literally just moved out of a small house. So a blue whale's head was as big as our old house?
[02:36:24] Speaker B: Yeah, pretty much. I mean, the size of an airplane, man. And they're big. They're real big.
[02:36:30] Speaker C: Wow. Holy hell.
[02:36:33] Speaker D: They just swallow 100 people at once.
[02:36:35] Speaker B: They are officially the largest, I mean, of any animal ever to ever live. They're officially the largest animal to ever walk the earth. So they don't walk.
[02:36:42] Speaker C: My head legitimately hurts from trying to think about how big a blue whale is.
[02:36:45] Speaker B: Like, people think, like, the megalodon is big, but this is like 20 meters longer than megalodon. Megalodon?
[02:36:49] Speaker C: Like, megalodon. They have shit on a blue whale.
[02:36:52] Speaker B: Can't take it.
[02:36:53] Speaker C: No.
[02:36:54] Speaker B: And the most incredible thing that I find about whales, especially blue whales, is just that they eat krill. Yeah. Just like, they don't eat, like, the smallest organisms in the ocean. Sometimes they don't eat for weeks at a time, but when they eat, they eat 4 million pounds of krill.
[02:37:08] Speaker C: Yeah.
[02:37:08] Speaker B: Just incredible.
[02:37:09] Speaker C: I don't know if they may eat phytoplankton. I made that up.
[02:37:11] Speaker B: Where's the phytoplankton plant?
[02:37:12] Speaker C: I don't know. Blue whale facts. You know, blue whale facts.
[02:37:15] Speaker B: So maybe I get. Wow, blow your minds. There was some blue. You guys love blue whale facts.
[02:37:20] Speaker C: They're the best.
[02:37:21] Speaker B: I don't have enough blue whale facts to keep you guys busy all year long.
[02:37:24] Speaker C: I mean, couple all that stuff with the fact that you could swim through their veins.
[02:37:29] Speaker B: Like what? I mean, it can swallow 100 of you, so it's insane. Yeah.
[02:37:33] Speaker C: You got some questions for bone.
[02:37:34] Speaker B: Those are big. Yeah, I do. You know, just as a quick wrap up here, are we gonna harass him?
I don't think so, but found this one kind of funny.
I can't remember this guy's name. Colson came out and talked about Chuck Colson.
Is that him?
[02:37:57] Speaker D: Maybe.
[02:37:58] Speaker B: Maybe you guys are linking up here.
[02:38:00] Speaker C: What's happening?
[02:38:00] Speaker B: And he says that he knows without a doubt the story of the resurrection is true.
[02:38:07] Speaker D: Okay.
[02:38:09] Speaker B: Because of Watergate.
Basically says that Watergate proved this to him because twelve men testified that they had seen Jesus, Jesus raised from the dead. And then they proclaimed for years this truth, never once denying it, even though they were subject to.
[02:38:27] Speaker D: They were all tortured and killed.
[02:38:29] Speaker B: So that was my question is. We'll get to that one quick second. But he basically said they would not have endured all this if it weren't true.
Watergate embroiled twelve of the most powerful men in the world at the time, and they couldn't keep alive for three weeks.
[02:38:43] Speaker D: Right.
[02:38:43] Speaker B: So like you told me, these twelve apostles could withstand all these things. Like, can you talk about the things they were actually subject to? Because I've heard you talk briefly about, like some of, like there's.
[02:38:55] Speaker C: He was raring a good. Oh, yeah, they were, they were, they were tortured.
[02:38:58] Speaker B: Like, they, they got, they were all into that deal.
[02:39:01] Speaker D: Yeah, I'm pretty sure Colson went to prison, he was involved in Watergate, and he became a born again Christian after the fact.
[02:39:07] Speaker B: Yes, but I'm talking about the apostles.
[02:39:11] Speaker D: So this guy's got some credibility. I mean, he was involved in pretty high up government.
[02:39:15] Speaker B: Yeah, blah, blah, blah.
[02:39:16] Speaker D: Okay.
[02:39:16] Speaker B: So going.
[02:39:17] Speaker D: Yeah, going to the apostles. This is actually probably one of the biggest proofs I feel for myself is the apostles testimony that they saw the risen Christ after they saw him tortured and killed on the cross. Right. So he returned three days later, was risen from the dead, and he appeared to all the apostles and then to like over 500 eyewitnesses after the fact.
And then, for example, James brother, who was not really that strong of a believer before the fact, went on to become a church leader and was, I don't know his exact death, but I know he was kidding for his beliefs. And then he established a church before that.
I think Peter was crucified upside down. Jesus actually told him that was going to happen to him as he appeared to him. I want to say, like, andrew, I know one of them was like filleted alive or something like that. I know one of them was decapitated.
[02:40:14] Speaker C: I didn't like that.
[02:40:16] Speaker D: John, the apostle John, I believe, was just banished to an island. I think he was the only one that ever actually didn't get like tortured and killed, but he was banished to an island. That's where he wrote, like the revelation.
So you have these guys who all died for something they knew to be true. Right? It wasn't like, so someone will say, well, there's people who die for stuff all the time these days, but they believe it to be true. These folks witnessed it. So you don't, people don't die for something they know to be a lie.
[02:40:44] Speaker B: And you certainly wouldn't die for something.
[02:40:45] Speaker D: People die for a lie all the time. Right?
[02:40:47] Speaker B: You certainly wouldn't die for a lie. Something that you knew was totally false.
[02:40:50] Speaker D: Exactly. Exactly. And then you look to what did they have to gain? You know, they gained nothing. They were tortured and killed, and they were mocked for their beliefs. And christians during that time were also tortured and killed many more than that.
And yet the religion continued to spread and continued to grow because of incredible flayed alive dying.
[02:41:09] Speaker C: That's why we asked you. He just rattled off like eight of their deaths, like off the top of his head. I didn't know all that stuff.
[02:41:15] Speaker D: I think it's the, it's one of the most fascinating proofs, like historical proofs for Christianity being factual.
[02:41:23] Speaker B: I thought that was introduced too, just, especially just in that comparison to Watergate. And thinking about like, here's twelve guys that had immense power and authority.
[02:41:32] Speaker D: Yeah.
[02:41:33] Speaker B: And just crumbled beneath them because they couldn't keep a lie straight. Like, like that's, like there's the power of the truth versus a lie. Like the people were willing to die for it and because they knew it to be true. Yes. To deny it would be to lie.
[02:41:46] Speaker D: Exactly.
[02:41:47] Speaker B: Exactly. So I found that fascinating with that bone.
[02:41:52] Speaker D: Bon appetit.
[02:41:53] Speaker B: Bon appetit. I'm not sure what the resolution was there, but I like the conversation. Don't just be a part of the problem, be the whole damn problem.
[02:42:00] Speaker C: And only you can prevent river fires.
[02:42:04] Speaker B: Burning returning warcraft. Yes.
[02:42:06] Speaker C: Burning, burning, burning.
[02:42:09] Speaker B: Last step one browns fan cruise and the burning river sportscast.
[02:42:27] Speaker C: What better combination could you possibly think of?
[02:42:30] Speaker B: Motorboat. You play the motorboat, you old seal? Are you. You know, I was thinking during that interview.
[02:42:38] Speaker C: What? What were you think? Nothing. Cause you don't have thoughts. Cause you're a brainless idiot.
[02:42:43] Speaker B: Wow. My name is Uhtred, son of Uhtred.
[02:42:46] Speaker C: By the way, I want my foreskin back.
[02:42:48] Speaker B: It doesn't matter what you think. Women's guide to anal sex. And it was the second edition. Who makes the second edition? The weather. Outside is weather.
[02:42:58] Speaker C: The other one. The finger. The finger eating food. Fingers, yes.
[02:43:01] Speaker B: Ejaculate all over my body and my genitals.
[02:43:04] Speaker D: Yes.
[02:43:04] Speaker A: Oh my God. My house is full of shit everywhere.
[02:43:10] Speaker D: You don't need fundamentals when you got heart.
[02:43:13] Speaker B: And Jesus.
[02:43:14] Speaker C: And Jesus. Touchdown.
[02:43:16] Speaker B: Anyway.
[02:43:17] Speaker C: Oh no.
[02:43:18] Speaker B: We suck again.
[02:43:20] Speaker C: It's going down.
[02:43:21] Speaker B: I'm yelling timber.
[02:43:24] Speaker A: What do you mean funny? Funny how? How am I funny?
[02:43:26] Speaker B: Yeah. We are the worst quarterback room in the game.
[02:43:28] Speaker C: Thanks, guys.
[02:43:29] Speaker B: Thank you.
[02:43:30] Speaker C: You guys are the worst friends I ever had.
[02:43:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Afton the a hard.
[02:43:33] Speaker C: As soon as I get excited about being second to last the AFC north.
[02:43:36] Speaker D: Hopefully Deshawn proves this wrong.
[02:43:38] Speaker B: The offseason came, the AFC north. Told the Browns. F them. F them all. Listen, goddamn jets.
[02:43:44] Speaker C: All I do is win, win, win. No matter what.
[02:43:47] Speaker B: The leads are weak. The leads are weak. Fucking leads. A week? You? A week.
[02:43:53] Speaker C: I mean, when I. Last year, when I won and went home, you know, my wife's pants hit the ground. Erroneous. Erroneous on both counts.
[02:44:00] Speaker B: Oh, lord. Wow.
[02:44:01] Speaker C: But damn.
[02:44:01] Speaker B: I'm sorry I hijacked your segment for a second to do some good podcasting.
You know why, mister? Cause you drove a Hyundai to get here tonight. I drove an $80,000 BMW. That's my name. Everything about Pittsburgh except for their football team is shit.
[02:44:17] Speaker C: I live my life a quarter of a mile at a time. Now, I think we've officially lost. Lost all of our more conservative viewers, so I don't think they want to listen any longer.
[02:44:27] Speaker D: It's Mother Nature.
[02:44:28] Speaker B: Where's logo girl when you need her?
[02:44:30] Speaker C: I desperately want to make love to.
[02:44:32] Speaker B: We need cheese girl. Now, who's canceled? Now? Who's canceled now?
[02:44:40] Speaker C: Probably me.
[02:44:41] Speaker B: You making a full of fat people?
[02:44:44] Speaker C: I'm not just you.
[02:44:46] Speaker B: We're a whole race, basically.
[02:44:47] Speaker D: Basically?
[02:44:49] Speaker C: No way. She's just straight. Just finger banging her salad.
[02:44:54] Speaker D: You first get shocked, and then you get the shocker.
[02:45:00] Speaker B: You like to see almost naked. That's cool, man. Whatever. No, no, no.
[02:45:04] Speaker C: Bottom line.
[02:45:05] Speaker B: Here's what I'll say about Aaron Donald. He should have been suspended for double wielding helmets at practice last two years.
[02:45:10] Speaker C: True, true.
[02:45:11] Speaker B: So screw him and his thoughts on Miles Garrett. Are you not entertained?
[02:45:15] Speaker A: Are you not entertained?
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