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[00:00:23] Speaker A: Time for the burning our sportscast. We have finally made it to post LeBron Cavaliers playoff basketball. Lest we pass over this moment without proper regard, let us remember the last time that this team had a postseason without the kid from Akron. The average price of gasoline was a dollar six a gallon. Google was still just a number. Britney Spears debuted. Hit me, baby one more time And Titanic was cleaning up at the Oscars. American Airlines became the first airline to offer electronic ticketing, and Furby was definitely on your Christmas list. And President Bill Clinton was catching heat for wiping Slick Willie off on a certain intern's dress blues. In other news, the fireworks have already started at Progressive Field as the league season is underway and adjusting to new rules. Oh, and this is a Browns podcast, so we'll definitely talk some Cleveland football. And the only place to catch it all is right here on the Burning River Sportscast.
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[00:01:22] Speaker B: Those are dope ass.
[00:01:23] Speaker A: Dope. Dope ass. Big jugs.
I have no idea where I was going.
[00:01:28] Speaker B: These kids these days will never know.
[00:01:30] Speaker A: They're so soft.
[00:01:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:01:31] Speaker A: Softer than charmin.
[00:01:32] Speaker B: Hashtag flaccid.
[00:01:33] Speaker A: Hashtag charmin.
[00:01:34] Speaker B: I don't know if we should talk about kids and hashtag flaccid in the same.
[00:01:41] Speaker A: I love mail.
[00:01:42] Speaker B: Well, okay. Yeah.
[00:01:44] Speaker A: Well, that wasn't very nice.
For those of you that aren't watching the broadcast copy, he just pointed at me and laughed. I've worked hard for this dad bot. We are officially bisexual for the rest of the offseason. We're not bisexual or sorry, bi weekly for the rest of the offseason. Yeah, I mean, old vintage Tiger had two things on his mind winning and snatch. And that was it.
[00:02:07] Speaker B: I drink it black.
[00:02:08] Speaker A: Welcome into the burning river sportscast presented by Tapping Media I'm Kenny Thunder. Alongside six time international cherry pit spit contest champion and America's favorite vegan philanthropist, red hot Ronnie Jams. Ronnie, where can our crew find the best Browns pod in the land?
[00:02:24] Speaker B: You can find our podcasts wherever you get your podcasts. I'm talking Apple Podcasts, spotify Stitcher. Google Podcasts. Amazon Music. Pandora iHeartRadio Podcasts castro good pods and so many more.
[00:02:35] Speaker A: So many more. So what was your winning distance in the Cherry Pit Spit contest?
[00:02:42] Speaker B: 79Ft.
[00:02:43] Speaker A: That's pretty good. That's good. World record was 69.
[00:02:46] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I got 79.
[00:02:49] Speaker A: Shut them down.
[00:02:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Kenny, did you see the news about Dwayne Haskins this week?
[00:02:54] Speaker A: Yeah, dwayne haskins is getting Benoit over here.
[00:02:56] Speaker B: Dude, this thing was just wiggity, and it was pretty sad, but it's just wiggity, bro.
[00:03:01] Speaker A: Yeah. So for anyone that doesn't know or hasn't been following this super closely, there was a lawsuit filed on Dwayne Haskins, I guess family's behalf or state's behalf? His wife filed it. And this comes straight from the Elsley law firm that is handling the case regarding the death of Dwayne Haskins. Florida Highway Patrol homicide report shows Dwayne was only feet away from making it safely across the roadway when he was struck and killed by the dump truck. Truck was going faster than a speed limit, carrying excessive cargo, had brake system issues, and was traveling on low tread tires.
Where this starts to get more interesting, here is the additional details where the truck driver hit Dwayne with the front left side of the truck. This is directly in front of where the driver was sitting behind the steering wheel. The driver told police that before he hit Dwayne, he saw Dwayne ahead of his vehicle in the center lane.
What gets even more interesting is this report also confirms that before Dwayne was killed, there were multiple other drivers who were driving in front of and behind the dump truck that saw him on the roadway and avoided hitting him. And a few of those drivers even had time to kind of pull off and call 911 present in the area before Dwayne was hit.
[00:04:21] Speaker B: Long story short with the dump truck is it sounds like they're hinting at that the dump truck purposefully did not stop.
[00:04:28] Speaker A: Right, because it goes on to say, like, there were taillights, brake lights, hazard, flashers, as well as a bright construction board, all of which illuminated Dwayne as the dump truck driver approached. So there's just a lot of questions about how did they manage to actually hit him, given that he was essentially across the street.
There were some other things about maybe a watch that was stolen shortly before his death. So it starts to get into being.
[00:04:57] Speaker B: Drugged at some point.
[00:04:58] Speaker A: Yeah, the initial reports, I remember the morning when it happened, they said potentially alcohol was involved.
[00:05:04] Speaker B: That was the whole thing, is that his toxicology came back and that he was under some sort of influence when he was doing all this.
[00:05:11] Speaker A: But it still seems like there's a lot of the details are very murky around that, because whether he was targeted and drugged or it was a robbery conspiracy or something, or he was actually drunk, it's all still very bizarre.
[00:05:25] Speaker B: So weird because his family came out immediately, and they're like, hey, guys, something's not right here. Let this whole thing play out before you make any judgments on Dwayne, because you're going to find out some weird details that you would have never thought. And so just to kind of sum up this story that came out, the lawsuit, alleges that Dwayne haskins was drugged in a blackmail conspiracy, but he is a blackmail.
[00:05:46] Speaker A: There's no conspiracy.
[00:05:47] Speaker B: No, no. Blackmail. As in, like he is a blackmail. No, never mind. He was drugged in a blackmail conspiracy, and his family filed a lawsuit alleging that this drugging on the night of his death was part of not only a blackmail conspiracy, but a robbery conspiracy. And the lawsuit lists four individuals, two restaurants, a golf driving range, a hotel, all as defendants connected with the alleged conspiracy. So, I mean, this thing's pretty deep.
[00:06:18] Speaker A: It's got legs. I mean, it just keeps getting odd and otter and the whole thing is just tragic to begin with, right? I mean, for someone celebrated and young with so much potential ahead of him.
[00:06:28] Speaker B: We got to watch him firsthand. I mean, he was obviously an Ohio State.
[00:06:32] Speaker A: The book was open on what his NFL career was going to become. But he was clearly a dynamic athlete, drafted early and could have done incredible.
[00:06:41] Speaker B: So supposed to be getting a second chance there in Pittsburgh and not to.
[00:06:45] Speaker A: Mention just anytime a young person passed away. I mean, it's just sad. So tragic. But this thing has full grown legs now and conspiracy and very bizarre. So we'll continue to follow this.
[00:06:58] Speaker B: I was going to say we'll make sure that we come back with some updates as they come out because this thing is just crazy.
But yeah, with that, let's just go ahead and remind our listeners here that we do have a signed Nick Chubb jersey giveaway that we're doing right now.
[00:07:16] Speaker A: Where is it at?
[00:07:17] Speaker B: It's over there.
[00:07:18] Speaker A: Oh, great.
[00:07:18] Speaker B: We left our jersey out of frame, but there is a signed Nick Chubb jersey giveaway going on for Burning River Sportscast right now. Go to any of our social medias, click on the link in our bio and get entered to win. Once you get entered, you will need to subscribe to our YouTube channel. Only YouTube subscribers are able to win this prize. But once you subscribe to our YouTube channel, about 20 other opportunities to earn entries will be unlocked so that you could keep earning and hopefully up your chances.
[00:07:48] Speaker A: Yes. So do all those things that it says to earn bonus entries, including calling the Burning River Sportscast hot, take hotline, correct hot take hotline, hot take hotline.
[00:07:57] Speaker B: We'll talk about that later. But yes, call the Burning Rivers Forest.
[00:08:00] Speaker A: Cast hot, take hotline and get your bonus entries.
[00:08:03] Speaker B: Yeah. So with that, let's get into the Burning River Rundown.
[00:08:11] Speaker A: I've missed the sounder.
[00:08:13] Speaker B: Yeah, apparently we got away from it for one week.
[00:08:17] Speaker A: Our segments are hit and miss.
[00:08:20] Speaker B: We said this is going to be our offseason staple. And then we immediately got rid of it for one week.
Anyways, it's back. We are in the Burning River Rundown and we are back to start the Burning River Rundown. Did you see there's a Browns fan cruise?
[00:08:33] Speaker A: Yeah, I sent it to you.
[00:08:36] Speaker B: Yeah. Just so everybody at home knows, tickets range from person per fan as they list it. Interesting note here, though. I was looking through all the details when you sent it to me. Most cruises, when you go on a cruise, you get to choose whether or not you want to add a premium drink package on it's optional. Not on this cruise. It's automatically added in. So to me it just sounds like this is going to be an absolute shit show with Browns fans.
[00:09:06] Speaker A: So Johnny manziel, is not invited.
[00:09:09] Speaker B: He probably is. It says, you know, they probably did invite him. It sounds like it's right up his alley, but he might be over there in XFL or something trying to get things going. I don't know.
[00:09:19] Speaker A: Truthfully, though, I mean, the tickets I was surprised given that the alumni giveaways and all the stuff that they're going to do on board I thought were reasonable. I mean, for two people taking a vacation for that.
[00:09:30] Speaker B: Yes, I would agree with you. Have you ever looked up cruise prices, though?
[00:09:34] Speaker A: Well, yeah. And you can get cruise tickets cheaper if you want to stay in the bottom of the ship and stuff. But generally if you're paying for ocean view anyway, anything with the balcony, you're looking at two, three grand a and.
[00:09:49] Speaker B: It'S definitely reasonable for a vacation. I thought it was a little expensive for a cruise, but again, it's automatically adding in your premium drink package and you get to do a bunch of events with Brown's alumni and things.
[00:10:00] Speaker A: You get to play beer pong with Johnny Menzell.
[00:10:02] Speaker B: It's literally like games and shit that you play with the alumni.
[00:10:06] Speaker A: Yeah. And the alumni list is pretty long. There were like ten or 15 names on that list.
[00:10:10] Speaker B: Were my boys in there?
[00:10:12] Speaker A: Your boys?
[00:10:13] Speaker B: Ernest Biner and Eric Metcalf.
[00:10:16] Speaker A: I want to say Metcalf is I don't know if Biiner was, but he tends to go to a lot of those things. So we'll just get that list and post it on the site sometime this week.
[00:10:24] Speaker B: Here's the bottom line for this thing. I think that Burning River Sportscast is going to do everything that we possibly can to get some seats on this thing. And maybe we'll do a pod from the fan cruise.
[00:10:33] Speaker A: We could just buy them.
[00:10:34] Speaker B: That's what going to yeah, we'll try and make sure that fits into our schedule. You're about to have a so yeah.
[00:10:41] Speaker A: This year, not next. Hope.
[00:10:45] Speaker B: Yeah, you might be on number two at that.
Yeah, we're going to try and get on this thing and possibly do a pod from the ship. That would be pretty dope.
[00:10:52] Speaker A: That would be pretty exciting. But yeah, very cool. I mean, it seemed like it was almost one of the things that kind of seemed fake, like a joke at first. But then I opened it up and I was like, this is a legitimate Browns fan experience.
[00:11:04] Speaker B: The one thing I did notice did you see anywhere which cruise line they're using? So I saw they're using an event organization to set it up, but I didn't see anywhere the cruise line that it's actually using. So I think it's yet to be.
[00:11:20] Speaker A: Either it's either Carnival or Royal Caribbean, I believe.
[00:11:24] Speaker B: Either way, I mean, it's going to be sick nasty. If you're a Browns fan, I guess if you're not a Browns fan, you probably won't enjoy it.
[00:11:30] Speaker A: Yeah, don't go on that. Don't do that.
[00:11:33] Speaker B: But we're going to try and be there.
[00:11:35] Speaker A: Yeah. So set sail with us, maybe.
[00:11:38] Speaker B: Yeah, set sail with us. I forgot to write down the date for this. I think it's like next March.
[00:11:41] Speaker A: March 2024.
[00:11:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
Set sail with Burning River sportscast on the Cleveland Browns Fan Cruise in March 2024.
[00:11:49] Speaker A: Five night Caribbean cruise. I will say this too real quick, just in general.
If you've never left the country and you've never been to Jamaica, the Bahamas.
[00:12:00] Speaker B: You go to Jamaica like every year.
[00:12:02] Speaker A: It's incredible down there. So this is a cruise that I would definitely want to go on because I already love the destination ports. But if you haven't ventured outside or done like an all inclusive at one of those places, I highly, highly recommend because those are great vacations. So this might be kind of a cool way to taste some of that Caribbean experience.
[00:12:21] Speaker B: So next up here in the Burning River Rundown OBJ to the ravens.
[00:12:27] Speaker A: So much to say about this.
Just bizarre timing. It felt like already it felt like it was an awful lot of money for a guy coming off of two serious knee injuries that hasn't played football in over a year in the middle of contract dispute over money.
[00:12:49] Speaker B: So here's the deal. First of all, I want to say OBJ, I actually like OBJ. I didn't mind him in Cleveland. I haven't minded him his whole career at La. There's a lot of OBJ haters out there. I like him. But now he's a Raven. So you know what we say to the Ravens, FM. FM.
So there's that. But second up.
Yeah. What does this mean for Lamar? Because here's my thing, right?
Like you just mentioned, they guaranteed a guy who hasn't really played football, hasn't played a full season since he was with the Giants, like six years ago.
[00:13:19] Speaker A: Like ancient history at this point.
[00:13:21] Speaker B: Guaranteed him 15 million with up to 18 million possible in his contract.
All while they're sitting there telling Lamar Jackson that the reason they're not paying him is because they're worried about his long term health.
Double standard here is absolutely glaring and.
[00:13:38] Speaker A: That they won't pay for that risk. Right.
But here's the other thing, too. You've got to imagine on some level that OBJ and Lamar are probably boys.
[00:13:50] Speaker B: Lamar tweeted out like a screenshot of them FaceTiming each other after.
[00:13:53] Speaker A: Like, does OBJ sign with the Ravens if Lamar isn't going the does he want to catch footballs from Tyler Huntley?
[00:14:02] Speaker B: No. But I think the football world in general just assumes that that's going to get done. I don't know. I think the Ravens I think they're going to hold steadfast a lot longer on this than people think. I think that they're willing to let Lamar walk if he's going to insist that he wants 250,000,000 guaranteed.
[00:14:20] Speaker A: Well, and I think that they're just hoping that they can get to a franchise tax scenario where you see just let it go, we'll keep dealing with this. But you're going to play this year into the franchise.
[00:14:28] Speaker B: He's going to be Kirk cousins.
[00:14:30] Speaker A: He may very well be Kirk Cousins.
[00:14:31] Speaker B: The next, like six years. He plays franchise tag.
[00:14:33] Speaker A: But just bizarre. I mean, it was looking more and more like Odell wasn't going to get a contract really anywhere because he hasn't played football. He's been banged up.
[00:14:42] Speaker B: Good move for the Ravens, too. At least give Lamar incentive to say, look, we went and got you a premium.
[00:14:48] Speaker A: He fell asleep on that airplane and accosted the flight attendant.
[00:14:51] Speaker B: Oh, man.
[00:14:53] Speaker A: That was to be to be fair, the Ravens have not drafted a Pro Bowl receiver since they became a franchise.
[00:15:03] Speaker B: Other than tight end Mark Andrews.
[00:15:05] Speaker A: He doesn't count. He's not a receiver.
[00:15:06] Speaker B: That's true.
[00:15:08] Speaker A: So they finally have, like, I guess he's a talented person at the position. We don't know. We haven't seen him play football in a minute. And he's getting older every day.
[00:15:17] Speaker B: He's got to be pushing 30 now.
[00:15:19] Speaker A: And his cruciate ligaments are not getting any younger.
[00:15:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
More CLS.
[00:15:27] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:15:28] Speaker B: But I mean, here's the deal. Bottom line. If they don't have Lamar Jackson, I'm happy because they're the Ravens and Lamar Jackson's a tough quarterback to deal with. And again, I hate Lamar Jackson because he's a Raven. So f him.
[00:15:39] Speaker A: Well, now we definitely hate Odell.
[00:15:41] Speaker B: F them all.
[00:15:42] Speaker A: I will say this. If Lamar goes back to the Ravens and they have Odell and he's healthy all year, I'm not excited about that at all from a Browns perspective.
[00:15:50] Speaker B: No. Well, especially because the Browns have a track record of as soon as somebody goes that used to play for the Browns, goes to another team in the AFC North, we just get so yeah.
[00:15:59] Speaker A: I mean, just of all the places that he could least people could say what they want about Baker. But at least when the Baltimore Ravens said, hey, Baker, are you interested in coming here? We got a quarterback thing going on. He was like, just not good luck for me, man. Like, come on. Just can't do that.
[00:16:15] Speaker B: Is that what it was or do you think it was baker was like, I don't want to play the Browns twice a year. I already have trouble throwing against other defenses, let alone the Browns, who know me.
[00:16:24] Speaker A: I don't think Baker has any shortage of confidence even at this point.
[00:16:28] Speaker B: That's fair.
That's fair. He's a very confident man.
[00:16:32] Speaker A: The man has a heisman he has a statue in his house and there's a statue of him.
[00:16:38] Speaker B: Have you seen that statue when they unveiled it as the worst statue ever?
[00:16:41] Speaker A: It was weird because of the way they had his Baker headband on. So his head looked like it was like a ten head.
[00:16:47] Speaker B: Oh, it was so bad. It just looked ridiculous.
[00:16:50] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, not the best when you.
[00:16:52] Speaker B: Have to explain why it looks so bad. That's never good fair.
[00:16:57] Speaker A: But he has a statue and we don't.
[00:16:59] Speaker B: That's also fair.
[00:17:00] Speaker A: All I'm saying is like good on Baker for not going to an AFC North team.
[00:17:03] Speaker B: I feel like we're wasting a lot of time on the Ravens here. So we're going to move on FM Deshaun Watson to be deposed on the remaining cases. This I just wanted to throw in here. We just wanted to throw in here. I mean, last year's punishment included the outcome of the cases and any new information discovered. So this should be a non story supposedly. Yeah, it should be a non story unless the NFL literally just backtracks on.
[00:17:23] Speaker A: Everything supposed to be deposed Monday. And I think they moved it to um, so I guess we'll continue to follow that to see what the outcomes of those cases.
[00:17:32] Speaker B: But and most people, I mean, it's probably going to get closed and nobody's ever going to know what was said because depositions typically aren't made public.
[00:17:39] Speaker A: Right.
The only thing is, and what I think could put the NFL in a pickle here, I love it when people say in a pickle is funny turn of phrase is if he ends up being found liable in one of these civil suits, they take these to court and he loses effectively his position.
Does the NFL do something then? But to your point, the NFL code of conduct policy violation, it's supposed to be inclusive of the whole.
[00:18:14] Speaker B: Mean. Yeah, they already said that the NFL that is already said that there was wrongdoing and they punished him for it. So can't punish him again.
[00:18:22] Speaker A: But if he loses in court, they.
[00:18:25] Speaker B: Already punished him assuming he was wrong.
[00:18:28] Speaker A: Well, I know, but it's also Roger goodell and he can do whatever he wants.
[00:18:31] Speaker B: That's fair. Next up, browns are officially moving on from kareem hunt. Per reports, those same reports say that the Browns feel he's lost a and I know we talked about this earlier today and I like Kareem Hunt. You like Kareem hunt. But I actually don't.
[00:18:49] Speaker A: I mean the only reason this news is because it was hanging out there because he hadn't signed with anyone yet. So there was some thought that he.
[00:18:54] Speaker B: Well, I think at this point, clearly other teams are probably seeing the same thing the Browns are and that's why he hasn't signed anywhere.
[00:18:59] Speaker A: Well, yeah, I mean he's had limited production the last couple of years and even limited tapes. So even if you're going back looking to see, hey, does he still a fit?
It's not like he's old yet. He's only 27, 28 years old, had.
[00:19:11] Speaker B: Injuries both of the last two years. Cost him some time.
[00:19:14] Speaker A: Yeah. And Kareem Hunt is still one of those people that due to his background comes with some baggage. So as soon as someone else signs him, we've all made our peace with it here because he's been on the roster. But if he goes to sign with indianapolis tomorrow, it'll be a new story.
[00:19:30] Speaker B: There people that have those things in their background. Every time they sign somewhere new, it gets brought, you know, with that I know you mentioned know, we have to find a place for Felton and Mean.
[00:19:42] Speaker A: I think the other interesting thing is we're coming up in the draft here and it seems to kind of be with Felton and with Ford. AB's Mo to this point is to keep drafting young, athletic running backs to try and fit them in. So in a draft where you're not really expecting a whole lot because you don't have early picks anyway, does he go after another one of these random guys? Does Felton or Ford become expendable?
I don't know. So I just think it'll be interesting to see. But yeah, there's just no place for Kareem at this point. I think Kareem had 120 or so carries last year and limited receptions and.
[00:20:17] Speaker B: What he did and his yards per carry was way down, all that stuff. So Felton and Ford can more than fill in for what we're going to be missing with him.
[00:20:24] Speaker A: And when I think this whole Andrew Berry mentality of bringing in all these young running backs is because I think that the Browns have made it abundantly clear that they want to run a run and shoot running gun pass first offense that ultimately is going to exist without Nick Chubb. Right. We all love Nick Chubb.
[00:20:43] Speaker B: If you don't see the writing on the wall at this point, we're giving away his jersey because he's both of our favorite Brown at this point. Yeah, but if you don't see the writing on the Mean when his contract is up, we will not have Nick Chubb anymore.
[00:20:55] Speaker A: It would be short of him being the NFL MVP of the Super Bowl.
[00:20:59] Speaker B: Or something like or him just saying, I'll just take a pay cut.
[00:21:02] Speaker A: Yeah, because ultimately, she's nick Chubb.
[00:21:05] Speaker B: So I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he did that.
[00:21:07] Speaker A: But he doesn't fit in the plans going forward.
[00:21:10] Speaker B: No, we'll keep him as long as we can keep him.
[00:21:12] Speaker A: I'll be stoked to have him on the roster. But I think the idea is everybody.
[00:21:15] Speaker B: Wants to fight us on this and think that we're like Nick Chubb. Haters like. No, I love Nick Chubb, but he's going to be I wish they're going to move on from him either at the end of his contract or they're going to trade him in the final year of his contract to get something for him.
[00:21:26] Speaker A: And the thing is, and he's only going to be worth less and less as he gets older and goes through the rest of this contract. So I would expect that sooner rather than later. But the point again being you keep seeing AB pick up these young, talented, athletic guys that maybe aren't bell cal backs, but can they spot play? And if you have two, three, four of those guys on your roster at any given time that can jump in and play that kind of like that Isaiah Pacheco role that he played for Kansas City last year. I think that's their goal is to have two or three guys that can be that that nobody really has to be the bell cow. You can spread the wealth and run and gun and no one's worried about it.
[00:22:00] Speaker B: And here's the deal. If one of these know, we've talked about Ford and Felton as the top two behind Nick Chubb. If one of those guys has a really good year and breaks out a.
[00:22:07] Speaker A: Little bit, makes it easier to get rid of Chubb.
[00:22:09] Speaker B: I want to be surprised if this was Nick Chubb's last season in I.
[00:22:13] Speaker A: Look, I'll say this right now, I'm going to be surprised if Nick Chubb makes it through this season with the Browns because it's just every time, every time Andrew Berry talks, anytime Stefanik talks.
[00:22:24] Speaker B: All they talk about is the passing game.
[00:22:25] Speaker A: All they talk about how they want to run this new passing game. We're going to open it up, do all these new things. We're going to run a completely different offense, which is also kind of a keen defense for Stefanik to, you know, we haven't won anything yet because we haven't done what I really want to do. Sure, Stefanik. Okay. So we'll see what you really want to do this year. You can trade Nick Chubb and see how that all goes for you. But I would be surprised if he makes it through the full season on the Browns roster.
[00:22:48] Speaker B: Yeah, I would agree with that. Moving on from that, though, the next thing up here, Michael Woods, the second they have confirmed suffered a ruptured Achilles while working out with Deshaun Watson in Texas that will require surgery and he will likely miss the entirety of the 2023 season.
[00:23:05] Speaker A: I know Michael Woods isn't a big name, but it's already just a receiving.
[00:23:09] Speaker B: Point because he was one of those guys to watch. He was like one of those that we're not sure what he has.
[00:23:14] Speaker A: Yeah, he was a young guy and he did get some playing time last year. So for somebody there liked him because he played in, I think, ten games last year, he didn't have huge numbers, but he played in, I think, ten games.
[00:23:24] Speaker B: Ten games. He was a six round pick in 2021 out of Oklahoma, caught five passes for 45 yards and also played a lot of special teams as a rookie.
[00:23:34] Speaker A: Which is kind of what a rookie does. Yeah, but just disappointing because it's already kind of a thin room.
[00:23:40] Speaker B: Well, they bolstered it a little bit with free agency, but sure.
[00:23:43] Speaker A: I think this just don't see anybody go down.
[00:23:45] Speaker B: This makes it easier for like, Marquise Goodwin to make the team on the back. I mean, they gave him a small contract to you weren't sure if he was going to make the team or not? I think he makes the team.
[00:23:53] Speaker A: And you kind of have quandary there with Marquise Goodwin and with fella coming back from the injury, from his name is escaping me right now, the short kickoff specialist Grant. Grant.
[00:24:08] Speaker B: Jacem Grant.
[00:24:08] Speaker A: Jacqueem Grant. Yeah, sorry. Thank you. My co host is having a hard time brain the aneurysm, but we could only hope. You kind of have two guys now that are very similar in stature and skill set. So it'd be interesting to see if Chakim Grant comes back healthy.
[00:24:23] Speaker B: Do both those guys.
[00:24:25] Speaker A: I know they want Goodwin more for the receiving core, but I think that's.
[00:24:29] Speaker B: What you're going to see is I think they will both make the team and I think that Marquise Goodwin is going to be one of the veterans in the receiving room because they have a lot of young guys in that receiving.
[00:24:37] Speaker A: Sure.
[00:24:38] Speaker B: And I think Jaqueem Grant, they keep on just as a return specialist.
[00:24:42] Speaker A: Rip. Michael woods.
[00:24:43] Speaker B: Rip.
[00:24:44] Speaker A: Rip.
[00:24:45] Speaker B: All right, so next up we've got the Cleveland Cavaliers. The regular season has come to a close, and they are set to take on the New York Knickerbachers.
[00:24:54] Speaker A: The Knickerbackers.
[00:24:57] Speaker B: I don't know why we got so excited for the Knicks.
[00:24:59] Speaker A: I just like saying.
[00:25:02] Speaker B: So what do you got? Four against five here.
[00:25:07] Speaker A: That's your seating.
You're not going to play four against five.
[00:25:10] Speaker B: I was like, why are they playing four on five? What are we doing? I got it now. I was a little confused. The show notes confused me. So yeah. So the Cavs are the four seed. The Knicks are the five seed. Kenny mentioned it at the top of the show. The Cavs have not made the playoffs without LeBron James since 1998. So that's a pretty crazy streak. In elementary school, I was eight years old.
[00:25:32] Speaker A: Yeah, it was a minute ago.
[00:25:34] Speaker B: Yeah. So, I mean, the names that you probably know for the Knicks brunson, Grimes, quickly, RJ. Barrett and Julius Randall. Their big three. Here is Julius, Randall, Jalen, Brunson and RJ. Barrett. Julius Randall, 25.1 points per game this season, jalen Brunson, 24 points per game, and RJ. Barrett, 19.6 points per game.
[00:25:54] Speaker A: And I think this series kind of hinges on one Julius Randall, because I.
[00:26:01] Speaker B: Think it hinges totally I mean, you're going to mention this, but it hinges totally on the health of the Knicks.
[00:26:07] Speaker A: Well, yeah, but I think Julius Randall, he's their best player, right?
[00:26:10] Speaker B: Oh, by far.
[00:26:11] Speaker A: By far. And he hasn't been able to play, and he's still kind of day to day.
[00:26:16] Speaker B: Yeah. So currently he's started doing shooting drills, but no contact still. He's no longer in a walking boot, in case anyone's wondering. He has a sprained ankle. I don't remember if it was a high ankle sprain or what it was, but he has a sprained ankle. The initial time frame had him being reevaluated on 312. And the series is set. To start on 316.
[00:26:36] Speaker A: We're recording 416.
[00:26:39] Speaker B: 416. I'm sorry. He was getting evaluated on 412. The series starts on 416, and we're recording this on 410. So we'll find out later this week if he's going to be playing or not. Don't know. But even if he is playing, I mean, I think it's safe to say.
[00:26:51] Speaker A: He'S going to be limited. And from the moment that he got injured, I mean, the conventional wisdom was that he would be likely missing sometime in this playoff.
But here's the thing about the Knicks. The Knickerbockers, they are a team almost like the Cavs in terms of the way they're composed, right? I mean, they have some good, young talent around them. They were really at the forefront of the Donovan Mitchell discussion in the Cavs. They wanted Donovan Mitchell. They thought they were going to get Donovan Mitchell, and then they didn't. And they thought if they just had Donovan Mitchell, that they would be and.
[00:27:25] Speaker B: Now Donovan Mitchell's gonna shit all over them in the first round.
[00:27:28] Speaker A: That's our hope, sure. But I think it's going to know. Look, New York is just a know. I don't care if it's the jets or the Giants or the Yankees.
You hate everyone in New York. Everybody from everybody from New York thinks they're better than so I expect this series to be very chippy. I expect to be chippy in the stands in both arenas because people from New York are just awful.
[00:27:57] Speaker B: Yeah, and just want to add on here real quick, we talked about the Julius Randall injury just now. Jalen Brunson's also injured, in case anyone was wondering. He missed the last three games of the season after aggravating a sprained right hand. And I know their coach is like, it's just precautionary, but keep an eye on that because you don't miss games as a precaution when they're still seeding to be had. Like they were fighting for, possibly taking the calves over for the four seed. It wasn't set in stone, so yeah, I don't buy that. It's just precautionary.
[00:28:29] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, to your point, the health of that team is going to largely determine who the winner is.
[00:28:35] Speaker B: Yeah. So bottom line here, Kenny, what do you expect to happen in this series?
[00:28:39] Speaker A: I'm going to go Cavs in seven. Oh.
I think having home court is a big advantage here for us. We didn't play all that well on the road.
[00:28:48] Speaker B: Man, I can't believe you think the Knicks are going to take them to.
[00:28:51] Speaker A: Seven a lot this year.
[00:28:54] Speaker B: Doesn't bode well for later in the playoffs.
[00:28:56] Speaker A: Well, look, I think this team is still very raw right outside of Donovan Mitchell. Where's your playoff experience come from?
[00:29:03] Speaker B: That's fair.
[00:29:04] Speaker A: I think this series is so important.
[00:29:05] Speaker B: Reading my notes.
[00:29:08] Speaker A: Just the truth, bro.
This team is so young and raw, and when you look across the board at guys like Garland and Mobley, this first series, they need to come out and they need to win because they need to be battle tested and they need to win something and feel that. But if they win the first mean, the road gets mean. You're talking about when the top three seeds you're going to play. And those are all good teams with good talent, and this team is still young and raw, and the only thing they have would be to their credit.
[00:29:36] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, they win this round, most likely they're playing the Milwaukee Bucks.
[00:29:39] Speaker A: Yeah.
But to be fair, this team also could overachieve very easily because they're kind of young and don't know what they don't know.
But outside of Donovan Mitchell, just the playoff experience isn't there. That being said, I've seen Donovan Mitchell elevate this team all year long, have huge games.
[00:29:58] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[00:29:59] Speaker A: So I just think that it will be a tough, drag know, pounded out series.
[00:30:06] Speaker B: Were you looking for knockdown drag?
[00:30:08] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm pounding and grounding and dragging and bunching and I don't know, cavs in seven fit.
[00:30:17] Speaker B: I got them in six. A lot of the same points that you made, they're still young and relatively inexperienced. I think they can actually sweep the Knicks, especially if the that would be so hard if they still have serious injury problems coming to this. Julius Randall isn't playing anywhere near where he can play. I think they could sweep. That's why I say I think they could sweep the Knicks at full health. I think the Knicks get at least one game, probably two. But I think if they're not healthy, there's a chance the Cavs could sweep.
[00:30:46] Speaker A: I mean, I think the biggest thing is just the Cavs inexperienced.
[00:30:49] Speaker B: And on the flip side, I can see the Cavs dropping a game or two that they should have won because they're like, we didn't close out because we're young.
[00:30:56] Speaker A: But that being said, I think the Cavs on paper have the better roster.
[00:31:01] Speaker B: I don't even think that's close.
[00:31:02] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I think the Cavs should win this series. It wouldn't be surprising for them to lose because the Knicks aren't bad, but on paper, this is a better Cavs team than a Knicks team.
[00:31:12] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. And so we talked a lot about Donovan Mitchell and that let's kind of review here. How do you think that that trade worked out for the Cavs? I mean, I know that's kind of a dumb question because we all know it worked out well, but what are your thoughts on the trade and kind of what happened this season?
[00:31:32] Speaker A: Well, look, I think it was an interesting offseason, right. We already talked about no one knew or for sure we were going to get Donovan Mitchell, and then it happened. And so that was exciting.
[00:31:44] Speaker B: Nobody knew at all. It just kind of happened.
They were negotiating with other teams. Then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, cavs land Donovan Mitchell in blockbuster trade.
[00:31:56] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, just huge like the wind.
But you know what I mean. Look at his numbers this year. Was it 28 three points per game, 48% from the field, 38 and a half from three point.
[00:32:12] Speaker B: Well, and here's the other thing that I look at. The Cavs are the number four seed in the east. They made a huge leap, would be the number two seed in the west in case anyone was keeping track of records. And they can hang with anybody in the NBA right now.
[00:32:24] Speaker A: And that being said, he was banged up a little bit here and there. Garland these guys were banged up a little bit here and there. So it wasn't like they had this cakewalk of a season. I mean, this team fought every night to get it, but I think Donovan Mitchell was a huge part of there.
[00:32:38] Speaker B: Was concerns here and there. I think it more goes to us being young, like we talked about, but here and there where they're like they can't close out games or they came out flat or whatever the case may be. But all in all, I think that the team gelled really well with Donovan Mitchell. And this team is really fun to watch. I mean, it seems like they all have each other's back. They all just kind of pick up where someone maybe lets down a little bit. It's a complete team. I talked about it earlier in the season. It feels almost like the Pistons of the early 2000s, where before they were all household names, it was just a bunch of decent basketball players playing together, playing well together, and they turned into a championship program.
[00:33:15] Speaker A: Yeah. Those guys were a lot harder, though.
[00:33:18] Speaker B: They were harder, yeah.
[00:33:21] Speaker A: This calf team against the Piston, our.
[00:33:23] Speaker B: Calf team is so soft.
[00:33:25] Speaker A: A little soft, a little flaccid, but I think they make up for their flaccidity with their technicality and athleticism look. I just think Donovan Mitchell has elevated this team, like I said earlier, all year long, and has turned them into, like could they have been an 8th seed with sexton and absolutely what's his face that they traded marketing.
[00:33:52] Speaker B: That's probably where they were. Maybe because they were going to be in the lower half of the playoff seeding.
[00:33:55] Speaker A: But all of a sudden Donovan Mitchell shows up and now, like I said, I expected to win this series. I would not be surprised to see them take out a Milwaukee or a Philadelphia. You wouldn't be like, no, this is crazy.
[00:34:08] Speaker B: You know they're going to let Donovan Mitchell cook in those series.
[00:34:11] Speaker A: Well, you're going to have to.
[00:34:13] Speaker B: Overall, I think he blew the expectations out of the water, though, in my opinion. Hell, he had 71 points in a game.
[00:34:20] Speaker A: That's true.
[00:34:20] Speaker B: That's all I got to say. He had 71 points in a game.
[00:34:23] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, every bit worth, every bit of the three first round picks traded for.
[00:34:27] Speaker B: Yeah, much better than advertised. I would say.
[00:34:29] Speaker A: And this Cavs team and this core is young and under.
Just I'm excited to see Garland continue to develop mobley continue to develop the pieces that they have around these guys. So it'll be a really fun playoff series, and we'll continue to cover it after each game.
[00:34:48] Speaker B: Yeah. So next up here, we got the guard season kicked.
So let's fast forward a little bit through their first few games. And Travis Kelsey threw out the first pitch at the home opener. And what the hell was that?
[00:35:06] Speaker A: I have this conversation with my wife all the time because she's not overly athletic.
[00:35:14] Speaker B: Sorry, Christine, you're not athletic.
[00:35:16] Speaker A: She didn't play a lot of sports or anything in high school. But I'm just like, how do you not know how to throw a baseball?
[00:35:23] Speaker B: Because this happens go here.
[00:35:24] Speaker A: This happens a lot, but it usually happens to your Taylor Swifts of the world and your $0.50 in the world. How does Travis Kelsey not know how to throw a baseball?
[00:35:33] Speaker B: This guy's a really athletic dude.
[00:35:35] Speaker A: Elite athlete, one of the best in the world.
[00:35:38] Speaker B: Listen, I think it was less of that and just I understand he plays in front of thousands of people every week when he's playing football, but he doesn't pitch in front of thousands. He doesn't even throw the ball for a living. It's baseball. I understand, but if you watched it, he did try and wind up and throw some heat, and then he held onto the ball too long and threw it in the ground.
I'm not giving him a pass. I'm just saying I think it's understandable.
[00:36:01] Speaker A: I haven't thrown a baseball since I was, like, 13 years old. I guarantee I could throw a baseball right now. Just one. If I had to throw one.
[00:36:08] Speaker B: Listen, I think if you were playing catch with Travis Kelsey just not at the Guardians game, he probably would throw a baseball just fine. I just think that he was really nervous.
[00:36:20] Speaker A: For what? Everybody loves you, everybody wants you. Your hometown hero.
[00:36:24] Speaker B: I don't know. But the best part of it was he opened his jersey up and it had a shirt on and said, I'm from Cleveland, and made it, like, so proud. And he just spiked the ball into the dirt.
[00:36:35] Speaker A: I just don't do my other maybe.
[00:36:36] Speaker B: That'S what he was going for. He was doing a touchdown celebration.
[00:36:39] Speaker A: Yeah, I saw that was his defense of it later, was that he's used to spiking the ball fair.
My other question, though, too, is, like, because we've seen this so often now and then you become a TikTok meme forever.
If you know you're throwing the first.
[00:36:54] Speaker B: Pitch, why are you why don't you practice?
[00:36:56] Speaker A: Why don't you practice, like, the weekly together?
[00:36:58] Speaker B: If you're like, I'm going to throw some heat. Why don't you just mark off 90ft your yard? You don't even have to practice a lot. Just throw, like, 30 baseballs and you're like, okay, I think I got that.
[00:37:06] Speaker A: I think I remember how. Yeah.
[00:37:07] Speaker B: Why is it not like riding a bike? You do it a couple of times and you're just right back to it.
[00:37:11] Speaker A: Why don't they all do that? I don't know.
And what I also didn't like was that Kelsey is obviously from Warrensville or Youngstown area, wherever they're from. Then he had the shirt on as his hometown kid, whatever.
After he cleveland Heights spiked the ball. Cleveland Heights? Yeah. After he spiked the baseball, patrick Mahomes tweeted out that the Royals should give him another shot to throw the first pitch. Like, Bitch, get out of like, it's just like he would do it better here because this is his hometown. Get out of here. Pat Mahomes.
[00:37:48] Speaker B: Same as hometown.
[00:37:48] Speaker A: Act like you're the best quarterback in the NFL. Go Pat your homes, whatever that means.
[00:37:54] Speaker B: Listen, so we didn't really talk about the Guardians yet in this Guardians segment. So they are six and four. They're first in the Al Central right this moment. They are losing to the New York Yankees. But so far I mean, here's the couple things that I've gathered so far. Jose Ramirez is still Jose Ramirez.
Josh Bell has been God awful so far.
[00:38:19] Speaker A: Jose trade ever.
[00:38:20] Speaker B: If you just judge it off of the first ten games, jose Ramirez's streak.
[00:38:24] Speaker A: To start the year. It was so funny. I was with my mom this weekend, and she was like, what's going on with Jose? And I was like, well, let's see. The last guy to do what Jose did to start the season played in 1911. So I think he's okay. He'll be all right because he had a hit in every game to start the year.
[00:38:40] Speaker B: Yeah. So Jose is Jose.
Like I said, Josh Bell, if you just base it off the first ten games, he's the worst acquisition of all time.
[00:38:49] Speaker A: He won the game, though. What was that last night? Hit the dribbler.
[00:38:53] Speaker B: Yeah, but his slugging percentage, which is what they brought him in here for, is like zero point 51 or something.
[00:38:59] Speaker A: Because his batting average is 100.
[00:39:01] Speaker B: He's the worst. He'll get better. We're ten games in, and he has.
[00:39:05] Speaker A: To because he's the highest paid player on the team.
[00:39:06] Speaker B: On the flip side of that, though, Miles Straw, who everybody gave a bunch of shit last year because his batting was terrible, is off to a pretty hot start. And he's looking like I mean, there's calls for him to move up to lead off or second hitter. So that's really nice to see him bounce back and have a much better start to this season.
[00:39:23] Speaker A: All in all, though, it seems to me that a lot of the themes that carried this team through last year, we're still doing it still there. The one thing that I'm concerned about is one of the themes that was a negative for the Guardians team last year was getting from your starting pitching to your closer.
Those middle relievers at times were a liability last year and seen a little bit of it already this year.
[00:39:49] Speaker B: Gone are the good old days of.
[00:39:51] Speaker A: You know, and hopefully with To McKenzie coming back healthy, all those things will help boost the bullpen in the right direction. But that's my only real concern is just kind of getting to the end of ball games with this team.
[00:40:04] Speaker B: Well, that's what I'm excited about. They're playing fairly well so far and they're nowhere near full strength.
[00:40:11] Speaker A: And they started on the road really well. And this team historically, even under Terry Francona, has not started seasons great, right. They're kind of battling back to get to 500 early in the year a lot. And then they kind of chill.
[00:40:26] Speaker B: If we can hang out several games above 500 and then kind of make it all click in the second half of the season, I'm going to feel.
[00:40:33] Speaker A: Real good about because then you win 101 games.
[00:40:35] Speaker B: Yeah, I made you do that. You were going to gain two games.
[00:40:40] Speaker A: You talked me into that one.
[00:40:41] Speaker B: Idiot. Anyways, new year, new rules for the MLB pitch clock. How do you think that's going so far?
[00:40:49] Speaker A: Yeah, so it's interesting. I think there's been a lot of reactions.
[00:40:52] Speaker B: Pitch clock and batter clock, they both.
[00:40:54] Speaker A: Have one, the pitch clock.
That's my first thing there's like the batter clock, right? So it seems like a lot of clocks. It seems like there's a lot of rules. It seems like there's the only one.
[00:41:04] Speaker B: That you actually see when you're watching it on TV, I believe is the pitch clock.
[00:41:07] Speaker A: But it seems like there's a lot of rules to the clocks because if there's a runner on base, they get less time versus if there's no one on base. Like there's different I can't follow that yet because it hasn't been going on long enough. It's new.
So as a pitcher, I would be concerned that I would forget like is it 24 or 18? What am I getting right now?
[00:41:26] Speaker B: Well, think about football, though. Football, it changes too, depending on if the clock was stopped beforehand, whatever the case may be. So it's just like, look, you can't.
[00:41:34] Speaker A: Compare baseball to football. Football is the perfect game.
[00:41:37] Speaker B: Well.
[00:41:40] Speaker A: But outside of that, I think all the things that they wanted to achieve by having the pitch clock absolutely come to fruition. Right? I mean, the games are much shorter, absolutely shorter.
[00:41:52] Speaker B: Guardians have played three games this season that are under 2 hours and 15 minutes.
And I mean, here's the deal. I like it because I think it makes baseball much more watchable on TV, which is where I don't care who you are unless you've got legit season pass. I'm not talking like a six game package. Unless you got legit season passes, you're watching most of the games at home.
True. So it's much more watchable on TV. I think the stadium experience probably does take a hit a little bit, because here's what I think of now when I'm thinking about going to a Guardians game. I'm probably not going unless it's a Saturday or Sunday doubleheader because I'm like fight the traffic. I live in Akron. I'm going to drive 40 minutes to Cleveland. It's going to take me 40 minutes to park. It's going to take me 30 minutes to get into the ballpark, and then I'm going to sit there for 2 hours.
[00:42:40] Speaker A: Cost you $50 to park so that.
[00:42:42] Speaker B: I can take 30 minutes to get back to my car, 40 minutes to get out of the parking space, and 40 minutes to get back home.
[00:42:48] Speaker A: Yeah, that ratio suffers.
[00:42:49] Speaker B: Yeah. It's like double the time getting ready or leaving the game as it is, actually watching the game.
[00:42:56] Speaker A: I think the other interesting thing, too, about baseball, and to me, baseball has always been this a leisurely watch, whether I'm at home or at the game.
[00:43:03] Speaker B: I've said that all the time, too. It's kind of like golf to me. I put golf onto the passively, watch it, and you check it every so often.
[00:43:10] Speaker A: And I always liked that about baseball, especially during the game if you're there because you can get up and go get a hot dog and go get a beer and kind of walk through the team shop and go back and you might have only missed a batter or two, which is wild.
[00:43:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:43:27] Speaker A: This new game moves so much faster that if you pick up your phone and you're watching TV at home and you look at Twitter, you'll miss a half an inning.
[00:43:35] Speaker B: Have you seen the side by side comparison the MLB put out earlier this season, where under last season's rules, and it was a very dramatic and drastic example, but under last season's rules and this season's rules, there was an entire half an inning played and the amount of time it took to throw one pitch last year.
[00:43:52] Speaker A: Well, right. And you're 100% right. And that's the thing that I always kind of appreciated that about baseball, was that it was kind of this plotting, like summertime almost. It's like, summertime is nice. I'm going to go for a stroll around the ballpark, get a hot dog, talk to some friends.
[00:44:08] Speaker B: Well, that part of it was great for us, but for the players, it was almost like chess between batters and pitchers because the pitcher is like trying to slow play the batter, or the batter is trying to slow play the pitcher, or whatever the case may be.
[00:44:20] Speaker A: And that's the one negative that I see coming out of this, is there's less time for that. So there's less time for the mental game, which is really what baseball is about. It was that chess game, right?
[00:44:31] Speaker B: It was about it's not anymore.
[00:44:32] Speaker A: It's not anymore. It's about scoring runs.
[00:44:35] Speaker B: But you know what the best part about it is?
Every change that has been made with the pitch clock, the batter clock, whatever clock you want to talk about benefits.
[00:44:47] Speaker A: The Guardians true, literally, for the way that we're built right now.
[00:44:51] Speaker B: Yeah, every single one of them.
[00:44:52] Speaker A: The one negative that I can see coming out of this is I think pitchers are so used to having that time that you start rushing guys that have a craft that relies on accuracy, technicality strength, the balancing, all of these different aspects of athleticism.
You get tired faster because you're moving faster and having you're thinking less and doing more.
[00:45:18] Speaker B: Well, luckily, they've already protected the pitchers a lot, and they don't throw nearly as long as they used to. They don't do all this thing.
[00:45:24] Speaker A: Still, the game, for eternity, until now, has been a certain way. And now you're like, now you get 20 seconds. Go.
[00:45:30] Speaker B: Yeah. Here's what it does for the game overall, though, you've said it for years, is they need to do in baseball whatever they can do in order to generate more offense. Because more offense sells tickets and this generates more offense.
[00:45:42] Speaker A: It does. And the faster games, I think, too, will continue to attract younger audiences, which baseball desperately needs. Yeah, because young kids just don't have time for baseball. They don't like baseball. And the MLB does a shit job of marketing.
[00:45:56] Speaker B: Like, I just don't understand. They're so bad with marketing, even here locally.
[00:46:00] Speaker A: What is this mess with bally sports and not paying?
[00:46:06] Speaker B: The MLB is one of the premier sports leagues in the nation, and they allowed this to happen because it's not just here. Oh, yeah, it's not just here. Valley covers however many states.
[00:46:15] Speaker A: It's like 28 different 20 different states.
[00:46:19] Speaker B: What do you mean? The MLB allowed that to happen?
[00:46:22] Speaker A: And it was already a problem because people already hated bally because they were like, I can't get bally, or I got to get a special package, or.
[00:46:28] Speaker B: All this stuff, you know what I say to bally?
[00:46:30] Speaker A: FM.
[00:46:31] Speaker B: FM.
[00:46:32] Speaker A: And now they're just not paying their contracts. And this team's, especially a team like the Guardians, relies on that income because we got nobody showing up to the game.
[00:46:40] Speaker B: Bunch of damn idiots running Bally's. Anyways.
The other big major rules change in the offseason was bigger bases. And there has been a dramatic impact on stolen bases this year because of those bigger bases.
You have it written down here, 2022 through 87 games. So that was like the first week or so of the season, or whatever it is.
[00:47:03] Speaker A: First ten games, I think the first.
[00:47:04] Speaker B: Ten games of the season.
61 stolen bases on 89 attempts. So that's 68.5% success rate. This year, in 2023, there's been 91 games. 124 stolen bases on 154 attempts. That's 80.5 success rate. So, again, the substantial number I actually really like this. I like the bigger bases because, again, I say what makes baseball more exciting? More offense.
[00:47:29] Speaker A: Yeah, agreed.
[00:47:32] Speaker B: It's exciting. When guys steal bases, when they said.
[00:47:35] Speaker A: Initially they go, we're going to make the bases a little bigger, it was one of those things they kind of like, laugh at, like, all right, what's that really doing? But to be quite honest, it's done a lot. All of those bang bang plays that go to replay that you have to.
[00:47:45] Speaker B: See on TV, not bang bang plays anymore.
[00:47:47] Speaker A: Well, they happen inside of a six inch window. So if you make that window three inches smaller, all of a sudden your bang bang goes either way much more often.
[00:47:55] Speaker B: Yeah. So the other thing that this does is guys like Kenny Lofton who have crazy stolen base records and things like that, it's kind of like football and passion. They're just forever entrenched. Yeah, but they did it with the small.
[00:48:08] Speaker A: Well, yeah, right. That's what just it's different, though, because you're going to have more guys that have more stolen bases now, and you're going to always have to go back to the Asterisks to say, well, yeah, the bases were smaller.
[00:48:18] Speaker B: Yeah.
So that's it. That's it for the Burning River sportscast. Burning River Rundown.
[00:48:25] Speaker A: Burning River Rundown.
[00:48:27] Speaker B: So next up here, we got the Burning River Sportscast hot take.
Hot. Take hotline. Don't forget to call us. Air your grievances that you have with us. If you hate us, let us know.
[00:48:39] Speaker A: Let us know.
[00:48:40] Speaker B: Tell us about the Browns, what your thoughts are on the upcoming season. Tell us about the Guardians, how you think their season will play out, and tell us what you think the Cavs will do in the playoffs.
[00:48:48] Speaker A: Talk to us about a pitch clock. Talk to us about bigger bases, smaller bases, big jugs bases. Sorry, what's happening here? I don't know.
[00:48:57] Speaker B: Either way, just give us a call. Operators are not standing by, but you can leave us a voicemail. 3302-2780-8030-2278-0803-3022-78. Call us now. And before we get into our revenue break, I want to talk to you guys about something new for Burning River Sports Cast. We now have merchandise.
[00:49:21] Speaker A: We do.
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[00:49:40] Speaker A: Yeah. One of these flags, these are dope.
[00:49:43] Speaker B: Those are dope ass.
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I have no idea where I was going.
[00:49:48] Speaker B: All right, so let's take that quick revenue break, and then we'll come back here and we'll talk about the Browns schedule.
Kenny, you seen Ted Lasso yet?
[00:49:59] Speaker A: I am delinquent in my ted Lassoing.
[00:50:01] Speaker B: Come on. Listen, it's a phenomenal show. You should watch it. My wife and I have watched season one and two. We're currently I think season three is either almost done or it's airing right now. Either way, we're waiting for season three, and we're going to binge watch that just like everybody else because nobody watches.
[00:50:18] Speaker A: I'm a real big binge watcher.
[00:50:20] Speaker B: But ted Lasso, winner of eleven Emmy Awards, including back to back Outstanding Comedy Series, wins in 2021 and 2022. Jason Sedegas is a football coach leading a British soccer team. What he lacks in knowledge, he makes up for with optimism and biscuits.
Yeah. So click the link in our show notes and get a free episode to see what all the hype is about. From there, you can subscribe and binge the rest of the series like everyone else, has Ted Lasso streaming only on.
[00:50:47] Speaker A: Apple TV and Biscuit.
[00:50:50] Speaker B: All right, so that's going to bring us into Important Brown schedule dates upcoming. We don't really have a snappy header for this part of the show. Do you got anything? You got anything off top of your head?
[00:51:01] Speaker A: Let's call it important. Brown scheduled dates? Upcoming.
[00:51:04] Speaker B: Important brown scheduled dates upcoming.
Nice sounder choice. Yeah, I like that. No matter what the header for the segment is, if I just say it like that, it gets exciting.
[00:51:19] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:51:21] Speaker B: Anyway, so starting on April 17, the Browns will begin the first phase of their offseason workout program as players gradually ramp up training for the 2023 season. The program, which is non mandatory, is split into three phases. What are those three phases, you may ask? Well, I'll tell you what those three phases are, Kenny Thunder.
[00:51:37] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:51:38] Speaker B: All right. Phase one, first two weeks of the program with activities limited to meetings, strength and conditioning, and physical rehabilitation only. So that's the first two weeks of the program.
[00:51:49] Speaker A: Like massages.
[00:51:50] Speaker B: Yeah, I see what you did there.
Phase two that consists of the next three weeks of the program on field workouts may include individual or group instruction and drills as well as perfect play drills, whatever the hell that means and drills and plays which with offensive players lining up across from defensive players and it could be at a walk through pace. No live contact or team offense versus team defense drills are permitted. What does this even mean?
[00:52:23] Speaker A: So is it actually offensive players against scout team offensive players and defensive players against scout team defensive players? Like they can't do two platoon.
[00:52:32] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I read that wrong. So it says offensive players across from offensive players and defensive players across from defensive players. So I'm guessing you're right. So that it's not considered a live type of drill.
We're going at a walk through pace so that you can get your steps down or whatever.
[00:52:48] Speaker A: Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
[00:52:58] Speaker B: Whatever. So that's the next three weeks, and then phase three, consists of the next four weeks of the program. Teams may conduct a total of ten days of organized team practice, activity, or OTAs. No live contact is permitted, but seven on seven, nine on seven, and eleven on. Eleven drills are permitted.
After that we're going to get into the rookie minicamps. Those run May twelveTH through the 14th and give coaches a chance to evaluate the Browns draft picks for the first time, which who knows how many we'll have. We may have like two.
[00:53:29] Speaker A: I mean they have at least eight.
[00:53:30] Speaker B: Well, they have eight draft picks, but we may only have two that are worth a damn. Yeah, agreed. But yeah, that takes place two weeks after the draft. The exact dates for you have two different dates in here in your show notes.
[00:53:45] Speaker A: For what?
[00:53:46] Speaker B: For rookie minicamps.
[00:53:48] Speaker A: Well, there's minicamp and then there's mandatory minicamp.
[00:53:52] Speaker B: Got you. So the mandatory thing, April 27 through the 29th. Oh no, that's where we're getting the draft is the 27th through the 29th. And then the minicamp is the twelveTH through the 14 May.
[00:54:03] Speaker A: I can't take you anywhere.
[00:54:04] Speaker B: I know. So that's kind of where we're at. A full rundown of the offseason schedule. First day of the offseason program is April 17, the NFL draft, as I just mentioned, april 27 through the 29th, rookie minicamp, may twelveTH through the 14th. Organized team activities begin May 23, mandatory minicamp, June 6 through the Eigth. And that'll take us into the preseason.
[00:54:30] Speaker A: Yeah, they haven't announced the training camp dates just yet, but that'll be somewhere in mid to late July. We'll take you straight up through the preseason. Obviously, the Browns have the big hall of Fame game this year.
[00:54:42] Speaker B: Yeah, that's going to be exciting. We'll probably try and go to that.
[00:54:44] Speaker A: You think they'll be first up? Yeah, I mean, I don't know if the Burning River Sportscast is going to be able to get a media pass or not, but hey, here's to hoping. Here's the hoping.
[00:54:56] Speaker B: Pretty sure everybody recognizes us as a major media outlet at this point.
[00:55:00] Speaker A: If they don't, they better learn.
You know, what sticks out to me is just like how regimented this whole.
[00:55:06] Speaker B: Thing just, oh, it's wild. If they haven't talked about it in the CBA, it doesn't exist anymore. Like if it's not written in there and both sides agreed to it, you can't do it.
[00:55:17] Speaker A: And it's funny because you went from way back when, when this time was just reserved for these guys to sell insurance or cars to the when everything was just like an absolute free for all. To now to your point, if it's not in the CBA, it can't happen.
[00:55:34] Speaker B: And you know what kind of sucks when you take all this into account because this trickles down to the college game. They don't do as many practices, those types of things.
[00:55:45] Speaker A: Everybody all the way down to high school.
[00:55:46] Speaker B: So what was your favorite part of high school football?
[00:55:51] Speaker A: It was absolutely two a days. And people hated two a days. People hated two a days 100% because.
[00:55:55] Speaker B: In the moment you hated them. But looking back, you're like, man, that was the best.
[00:55:59] Speaker A: It was some of my favorite memories of high school because the coaches withheld.
[00:56:03] Speaker B: Water, it was fantastic because it was.
[00:56:06] Speaker A: Just football all day long, literally.
[00:56:09] Speaker B: You woke up. Like I said, it was awful in the moment because you woke up, you went to practice, you practiced all morning, you got maybe half hour for lunch, and then you practiced all afternoon. You came home, died, and then went back and did it again the next day.
[00:56:21] Speaker A: Yeah, but you're just the camaraderie. You're just with your bros. Oh, yeah.
[00:56:25] Speaker B: Like I said, looking back, it was fantastic.
[00:56:27] Speaker A: The nonsense that we would get away with at lunchtime and just the fact.
[00:56:31] Speaker B: That do you remember grape tossing?
[00:56:34] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, our quarterback, quarterback threw.
[00:56:36] Speaker B: Grapes like 70 yards to one of our linemen and who would catch them in his mouth and okay, 70 yards is probably an exaggeration, no joke. It was like 40 yards.
[00:56:44] Speaker A: Yeah, it was long way, 40 or 50 yards.
[00:56:46] Speaker B: It was all the way across the field.
[00:56:47] Speaker A: It was impressive. But just the fact that from sun up till two or three in the afternoon, it's just football. It was the best playing football.
[00:56:56] Speaker B: It was as close no worries, no nothing. You just played football.
[00:56:59] Speaker A: It was as close as you get to being a professional football player. Your job is football.
[00:57:03] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[00:57:03] Speaker A: For seven or 8 hours you play football.
[00:57:05] Speaker B: Gone are two a days, not only for the pros in college, but most high schools nowadays don't even do them.
[00:57:10] Speaker A: Because I don't think they're allowed.
[00:57:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:57:12] Speaker A: I think here in Ohio, I think has banned them.
[00:57:16] Speaker B: Yeah, so too bad, too bad. These kids these days will never know.
[00:57:21] Speaker A: They're so soft, softer than Charmin.
[00:57:23] Speaker B: Hashtag Flaccid.
[00:57:24] Speaker A: Hashtag Charmin.
[00:57:25] Speaker B: I don't know if we should talk about kids and Hashtag Flaccid in the same.
[00:57:32] Speaker A: I'll let you own that one.
[00:57:35] Speaker B: Anyways, next up, you can have it.
Next up, I've got draft talk and potential mock picks with a question mark here. Look, we're going to get into the draft and kind of our talk about any mock picks or whatever you want to say about the draft in our next episode, which will air the day the draft starts, draft day, which is April 27. I didn't want to get into it too much here. We don't have a lot of draft picks. We're not even picking till day, what, three, two?
[00:58:03] Speaker A: End of day two, third round, right? End of day two, yeah. And depending on how the time shakes out, who knows?
[00:58:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
Basically, what we're going to talk about on the draft episode will be more than enough to preview the few draft picks that we do have because we've.
[00:58:20] Speaker A: Finally gotten away from the draft being our Super Bowl.
[00:58:23] Speaker B: It's the best feeling.
We barely talked about the draft. We've mentioned it a couple of times in the past few episodes. Like I said, we'll talk about it a little bit next episode. But we've barely talked about it, and I don't feel like we've missed a whole lot because, let's be honest, who we take in the draft is an absolute crapshoot because we don't have a pick till a third round.
[00:58:42] Speaker A: Should AB's credit, though. I mean, he's picked some later round players that have showed up.
[00:58:50] Speaker B: Okay, yeah. You mentioned in the top half of the show know, the fact that he always takes a running back somewhere, which I'm sure we'll probably be looking at.
[00:58:58] Speaker A: Again, this, so yeah, but I mean, MJ. Emerson was a later round pick. Donovan peoples jones was a lateral pick.
[00:59:06] Speaker B: Both starters on our team, and very productive ones at that.
[00:59:10] Speaker A: Yeah. I think they're going to hope to find some diamonds in the rough there.
[00:59:13] Speaker B: Yeah. One note I have, though, about the draft that I won't let slide to next episode.
[00:59:18] Speaker A: Let's hear it.
[00:59:19] Speaker B: Did you see the shit with Will Levis come out this week?
[00:59:23] Speaker A: Will Levis is, I think, the most interesting prospect in this will this guy.
[00:59:30] Speaker B: Thinks Will Levis is the most interesting man in the world.
[00:59:34] Speaker A: I do.
[00:59:35] Speaker B: Oh, my God.
Listen, Will Levis, one puts mayo in his coffee.
[00:59:40] Speaker A: Yes, he does.
[00:59:41] Speaker B: Oh, my God. I was absolutely disgusted when I saw this, just because that just sounds gross. But second, I'm kind of a coffee snob. I like coffee. I can pick out different notes. I drink it black, and I can pick out different notes and tell you what's in my coffee or at least how it was roasted. And Will Levis is over here putting fucking mayonnaise in it.
[01:00:05] Speaker A: That's the reason I would draft Will Levis.
[01:00:07] Speaker B: Well, you're an idiot.
[01:00:09] Speaker A: I love mayo.
[01:00:10] Speaker B: Well, okay.
[01:00:12] Speaker A: Yeah, that wasn't very nice.
For those of you that aren't watching the broadcast copy, he just pointed at me and laughed at my dad.
[01:00:23] Speaker B: All I can say is I've worked.
[01:00:25] Speaker A: Hard for this dad bod.
[01:00:26] Speaker B: All I can say is, listen, if you asked me what your favorite condiment was, I would probably tell you mayo.
[01:00:33] Speaker A: Mayo, ketchup, ranch, honey mustard, all of the above. Barbecue Thai in dressing.
[01:00:40] Speaker B: Yeah, but anyways, that was just the first part of it. He also eats bananas with the peel on.
[01:00:44] Speaker A: If it's sauce, I'll eat it. The bananas with the peel on was a little disturbing.
Why was it disturbing?
[01:00:54] Speaker B: Why does he do that?
[01:00:55] Speaker A: I have no idea.
[01:00:57] Speaker B: Just these two things tell me everything I need to know about Will Levis and what a freak he is.
[01:01:04] Speaker A: But Will Levis is an absolute adonis. He's an Adonis, and he was injured most of last year.
[01:01:11] Speaker B: So clearly he should be a high level draft prospect.
[01:01:15] Speaker A: Well, I just think that he's not going to get the same kind of respect coming into this year's draft as.
[01:01:19] Speaker B: I don't respect him at all anymore.
[01:01:21] Speaker A: As he could have if he had been healthy all last year. But this dude threw the ball to combine harder than any quarterback ever. I mean, harder than Patrick Mahomes.
[01:01:29] Speaker B: What does that get you, though, on a football field?
[01:01:31] Speaker A: He can throw it. Really?
[01:01:37] Speaker B: Don't.
[01:01:37] Speaker A: Look, I don't know what it gets you. All I know is it gets you drafted.
[01:01:41] Speaker B: That's fair. That's a fair point. Anyways, so that's the only things I'll mention about the draft this week. We will move on from that. We'll talk about the Browns draft prospects in the next episode, but for now, let's go ahead and take a quick Master's moment.
[01:02:02] Speaker A: Digging. Are we going to get sued for that?
[01:02:04] Speaker B: Maybe. All right, we'll find out. Season desist is on its way.
[01:02:10] Speaker A: Tradition unlike any other.
[01:02:12] Speaker B: It really is a tradition unlike any other. So quick story here. My brother in law got to go to the Masters this year, the practice rounds, and he came back with some stories. He said, first of all, it's like a picture. Taking pictures of it does not do it justice at all of how just well manicured that course is, and there's not a single thing out of place. He said, you just look at it and you're like, it doesn't even look real.
So there's that.
[01:02:42] Speaker A: And then second, what's the Alice in Wonderland? It's that for a golf course, it's wonderland.
[01:02:49] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely.
It seriously is mean. It's just the most beautiful setting for a golf course I've ever seen in my life. It's insane. It's just ridiculous. And I haven't even been there in person.
And then he also told me, he said, you wonder when you're watching it. You're like, how does everything look so perfect all the time? Well, he told me, he said they literally have hundreds of workers scattered around the golf course. That literally if a pine cone falls, somebody runs over, picks it up, and puts it in their pocket. So I can't imagine how big that pile of pine cones is somewhere in the back. But that's what they do. And so that's why you never see anything out of place when you're watching the broadcast.
[01:03:32] Speaker A: I mean, it's truly impressive. They take care of that golf course all year long like that because what.
[01:03:38] Speaker B: Is their budget for just Greenskeeping place?
[01:03:45] Speaker A: I mean, you think about the membership there, their budget is just unlimited.
[01:03:48] Speaker B: That's true.
It costs a pretty penny to be a member.
[01:03:54] Speaker A: Yeah, look, the Masters is always a fun tournament to watch. Love the masters this year. Did not disappoint. Great competition, lots of storylines heading in with the live tour guys, getting a chance to play with the PGA Tour guys again.
[01:04:10] Speaker B: That was fun.
You were telling me about the what's his name?
[01:04:14] Speaker A: I think it was Siwu Kim that was playing with. I think it was Phil Mickelson.
Maybe Saturday or Sunday. And he had a shirt that had PGA Tour just emblazoned on it like a thousand times in small lettering.
[01:04:27] Speaker B: Just the level of petty.
[01:04:29] Speaker A: Super petty.
[01:04:30] Speaker B: Yeah. Just ridiculous.
[01:04:32] Speaker A: But yeah. So there was all kinds of neat storylines there. And then obviously, the weather was a.
[01:04:36] Speaker B: Big the weather was wild. The tree almost took some people out.
[01:04:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Trees uprooted and just poor weather. It was rainy and cold, comparatively. Yeah.
[01:04:48] Speaker B: Speaking of the poor weather, I mean, that caused the winner, john Rom had to do a 30 day or 30 day, 30 hole, 30 days of golf straight.
That would be wild.
[01:05:00] Speaker A: Damn, Rob.
[01:05:01] Speaker B: No. John Rom won the masters after playing 30 holes straight due to the weather.
[01:05:07] Speaker A: You know what I think of when I think of John rom?
[01:05:09] Speaker B: What?
[01:05:09] Speaker A: Elite athlete.
[01:05:11] Speaker B: Absolutely.
Look at this specimen and I think elite athlete. No, but he did. He had to play 30 holes of golf straight due to the weather, which is super impressive that he was able to win after that.
[01:05:24] Speaker A: I think he started that round four shots back and then finished, I think four ahead.
[01:05:29] Speaker B: Right. And I know that these guys do this for a living, but you think about playing 30 holes of golf, how do you feel?
[01:05:34] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. It just hurts my brain.
[01:05:36] Speaker B: Oh, my god.
If you tried to do two rounds in a day, basically I'd be shot.
[01:05:43] Speaker A: I mean, I'm at the point now after one round I'm shot well, I.
[01:05:46] Speaker B: Feel like I'm in okay shape for being in my mid thirty s. And.
[01:05:51] Speaker A: We played golf forever. I mean, we played golf since we were 14 years old. 13 years old all the time. We went to golf college. That's true.
[01:05:59] Speaker B: Worked in or clown college, as some people call it.
[01:06:02] Speaker A: Yeah. Our now defunct, formerly accredited institution.
But, yeah, 18 holes just does me in at this point. So to have to play in a competitive atmosphere that would be that many holes in a day, and to just.
[01:06:17] Speaker B: Keep it together is come from behind.
[01:06:20] Speaker A: And win otherworldly impressive yeah.
[01:06:22] Speaker B: And so that was just wild.
Kudos to John Rom. That was crazy that he was able to do that. But on top of that, we got big Phil, the oldest runner up ever.
[01:06:32] Speaker A: Big Phil. Some vintage big Phillage out there.
Look, phil's a guy that has been kind of turned his name into mud over the last couple of years between a number of different things.
But I think there's still a lot of people that root for Phil. I root for Phil. Huge contingent of fans. So it's just cool. He was good for the game of golf.
[01:06:54] Speaker B: He went from on top of the world when he won the US. Open that year to like, a few months later is just like, you can't touch him. You can't touch him with a 30 foot pole because they lost dirt, lost.
[01:07:08] Speaker A: A lot of his endorsement deals in that. But it still is a huge continued offense. It's good for the game of golf to have Phil still playing at a high level, because on the other side of that, you have Tiger Woods with.
[01:07:22] Speaker B: The so, yeah, it was sad to you. If you watched the tournament when it was really starting to rain and things. Like he was trying to walk around the course and it looked like he could hardly move.
So it was really sad to see. I think that we've probably and we talked about this a little bit. We've probably seen the last of a super competitive Tiger on Tour, which is sad because I've maintained for a long time that he would be able to catch Jack and ultimately pass him, and there's no way anymore. Even before the car accident, I thought there was a chance of that. But after the car accident and the fact that he's just I mean, you can see it almost every time he plays, he's so messed up.
[01:08:03] Speaker A: And before the car accident, because he didn't have the win at Augusta, and so it was like well, he had.
[01:08:08] Speaker B: A year, too, where he was, like, dominant again.
[01:08:11] Speaker A: Yeah. There was a feeling like maybe he could still pull this off, but then the car accident came out of nowhere, and I think that he's just I.
[01:08:23] Speaker B: Think what little grasp he has battling.
[01:08:25] Speaker A: Every time he's out there now on.
[01:08:26] Speaker B: His athletic ability and just physical ability is kind of gone now.
[01:08:31] Speaker A: And he's never been insulted before.
[01:08:33] Speaker B: Well, there's that. Yeah.
And the other side of this, too, is I think we have seen, for lack of a better term, a reformed Tiger as far as his personal life goes.
He's more of a family man now. He seems to really appreciate the time he spends with his kids, with his family. So I think that cry from the.
[01:08:56] Speaker A: Playboy that was jet setting with porn.
[01:08:59] Speaker B: Stars on top of the fact that his body just can't quite hold up anymore. You've got the fact that he's not going to spend every minute that he has just devoted to practice time for golf because he wants to spend time with his family. He wants to have that relationship with his kids. And your golf game suffers a little bit because you got to kind of pick and choose, like, where am I going to be a force? Is it going to be with my family or is it going to be on the golf course?
[01:09:26] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, old vintage Tiger had two things on his mind winning and snatch. And that was it.
[01:09:35] Speaker B: Well, I love Tiger, so not to drag his name through the butt, but, I mean, you're probably right. It was easy back in the day to talk about the things that he wanted now or wanted then was all he worried about was winning. So he didn't have time for relationships with his family. Instead, he had time for a five minute fling with a porn star.
[01:09:56] Speaker A: Extramarital relations. Yeah.
[01:09:58] Speaker B: Not that I'm endorsing it, but I'm just saying that's where he was at. He's a much better human being now than he was.
[01:10:05] Speaker A: One interesting thing, I think to take away from this, though, is well, there's two. My first one is I do think Tiger could win another major, but I think it's one of those situations where everything has to be perfect.
[01:10:16] Speaker B: I think kind of like Augusta was.
[01:10:18] Speaker A: He's going to have to be coming out of playing golf for a few good weeks where he feels really healthy and the weather is going to have to be perfect down to the tea times and his pairings. Like, he's going to have to get good pairings. He's going to have to get good tea times where he's not dealing with either wet balls and dew in the morning and it's not overly hot in the afternoon.
[01:10:40] Speaker B: He's going to have wet balls in.
[01:10:41] Speaker A: The morning, jumping off the yeah, wet balls and snatch.
That's Tiger Woods for you in a nutshell. The other thing that I would point out, though, is Tiger has kind of about faced on this a little bit and has talked now about wanting to play on the Champions Tour.
[01:11:03] Speaker B: This guy with being able to ride a cart.
[01:11:06] Speaker A: To be able to ride a cart. Three day tournaments.
[01:11:08] Speaker B: Dude's going to be a monster on the Champions Tour. He's going to win almost every tournament.
[01:11:13] Speaker A: He could turn the Champions Tour into legitimate TV because people will watch Tiger Woods even if he's playing against Geezers.
[01:11:21] Speaker B: Yeah, and he's going to shit all over.
Right now, the biggest draw on the Champions Tour is I mean, there's a.
[01:11:32] Speaker A: Couple I mean, you got Bernard Langer and those guys out there.
[01:11:35] Speaker B: The biggest draw on the Champions tour is John Daly.
[01:11:39] Speaker A: And would Phil turn 50? I think he played a couple of Champions Tour tournaments, but also good just for Northeast Ohio in general, because we have the still Firestone. We still have the champions.
[01:11:54] Speaker B: I mean, tiger goes Champions Tour. I will definitely go to Firestone to watch.
[01:11:57] Speaker A: I mean, can you imagine? Tiger woods could probably win that thing for the next ten straight years.
[01:12:00] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, it'd be fantastic.
But anyways, that's enough about golf. This is not a golf podcast, but we like to dabble because we are golf professionals.
[01:12:11] Speaker A: It's the offseason, and the Masters is big in the sports world.
[01:12:15] Speaker B: Masters. But that'll take us to the British River Sports Cavs. How take allies.
All right, so don't forget to call us, talk about the Cavs Guardians Browns. Tell us you hate us. I don't know. Just tell us something. Give us something to put on air, because right now I'm hearing crickets, and I want to put the Burning River Sportscast Hot Take Hotline.
[01:12:38] Speaker A: Yeah, we want to hear from you. There's been some confusion on this, I.
[01:12:41] Speaker B: Think, apparently, because I had somebody ask me, what am I supposed to say for my hot take? That's up to you.
[01:12:50] Speaker A: What's my hot take supposed to be? Look, we get this platform once every week or once every two weeks here in the offseason to say whatever we want and bring you our hot takes. We want to hear yours.
[01:12:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, if you wanted to spend $10,000 in equipment, you could have your own podcast, but you don't. So we give you this platform of the Burning River sportscast hot take hotline.
[01:13:10] Speaker A: $10,000 and 10,000 hours.
[01:13:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:13:13] Speaker A: Learning.
[01:13:15] Speaker B: Yeah. But no. We give you the Hot Take Hotline to let us know how you feel.
[01:13:20] Speaker A: And you can call more than once if you got ten times, you got something you want to really get off your chest, calls back and leave another message. Just keep it rolling. We'll just play your diatribe right here.
[01:13:29] Speaker B: And anyway, so the number for that 3302-2780-8033-0227-8080-3302-278. Call us now. Call the naked are not standing by. So, Kenny, Kenny, Thunder. What can we expect next week?
[01:13:48] Speaker A: Have we come to the end?
[01:13:49] Speaker B: It's not next week, actually. What can we expect next episode?
[01:13:52] Speaker A: Next episode, which will be in two weeks, which will be Draft Day. Kevin Costner not invited.
Such a great movie, though. We are officially bisexual for the rest of the offseason. We're not bisexual or sorry, bi weekly for the rest of the offseason.
So in two weeks, we will come back with our draft episode covering Browns News Caps playoff updates, and Guardians in season updates.
[01:14:16] Speaker B: Yep. So don't forget to check us out on social media. Tapin Media who presents this podcast is found on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram at the Tapin Media and Burning River Sportscast. That's our podcast right here. You can find us on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and YouTube at Burning River Sportscast and on Twitter at Burning River pod.
Also, you can find our podcast wherever you get your podcasts. That's Apple podcasts spotify. Google podcasts. Amazon Music. Stitcher Pandora. iHeartRadio Podcast Castro. Good pods and so many more.
[01:14:48] Speaker A: So many more.
[01:14:49] Speaker B: Kenny, you know what this takes us to?
[01:14:50] Speaker A: Where can we find the merch?
[01:14:51] Speaker B: Oh, you want to find our merch?
[01:14:53] Speaker A: I see a lot of merch.
[01:14:53] Speaker B: There's a hat here. There's a hat there. There's a flag there. There's a mug. No mug there. There's a hat.
[01:14:57] Speaker A: There logos everywhere.
[01:14:58] Speaker B: Logos everywhere. You can find our merch at.
[01:15:01] Speaker A: Did you tell them about this logo?
[01:15:02] Speaker B: That logo, look. That is a dope ass secondary logo. So it's a flame teardrop. It's a water drop with a flame. That's a flame in the water. On water with fire. The river is on fire in the water drop. So it's firewater in firewater on firewater.
[01:15:21] Speaker A: It's a burning river. Sports cat.
[01:15:23] Speaker B: Burning river sportscast. Burning river. That's it. You can find all of our merch, though, at Shop, so that's where it's at. But Kenny, do you know what this takes us to?
[01:15:39] Speaker A: It is time for facts. Facts for days.
The hardest hitting sounder.
[01:15:52] Speaker B: I do love facts for days. I like that it started out as just like I'll throw a few facts out at the end of the show and then it's its own segment now.
[01:15:58] Speaker A: It is the show now.
[01:15:59] Speaker B: It's what you stay for. We talk sports and you stay for the facts.
[01:16:02] Speaker A: Stay for the facts. So speaking of facts facts for days. All right, hit me, my friend. Ronnie, what do you got? Number one. One, if you folded a piece of paper, okay, 42 times 42, it would be thick enough to reach the moon.
[01:16:18] Speaker B: No.
[01:16:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:16:20] Speaker B: There's no way this is true.
[01:16:22] Speaker A: That's correct.
[01:16:23] Speaker B: A piece of paper is like this skinny.
[01:16:26] Speaker A: Yes. But if you fold a piece of paper in half, it doubles in thickness. So if you fold it again, it doubles in thickness again. And with that type of exponential growth, it would take just 23 folds for a 10th of a millimeter thick piece of paper to be a 1 km thick monstrosity monstrosity into the air. And 30 folds for it to be thick enough to reach outer space, which is 100,000. Then 42 to get all the way to the moon. Unfortunately, the world record for the number of folds is 1212.
[01:17:05] Speaker B: That's actually a lot of folds, I feel like. Does it have to be an eight.
[01:17:09] Speaker A: By eleven, eight and a half by eleven?
[01:17:11] Speaker B: Does it have to be? What if we got a really big piece of paper, but was still only the same thickness, and then you just folded that over and over again? We think we'd be able to get more than twelve folds.
[01:17:22] Speaker A: I think it's the same thing, though. I think you just physically can't fold it more than twelve times.
[01:17:28] Speaker B: Says who?
I'm no physics major, but I feel like if you got a bigger piece of paper, you could do it.
[01:17:34] Speaker A: I would tell you who says is probably the world record holder that folded it twelve times. And he was like, that was hard.
[01:17:39] Speaker B: That guy. That guy doesn't know.
[01:17:42] Speaker A: My question. If we folded Ronie in half 42 times, would you reach the moon?
[01:17:46] Speaker B: He'd probably reach it faster because I'm way thicker than a piece of paper. Not as thick as you, but does.
[01:17:52] Speaker A: That even make wow.
[01:17:57] Speaker B: I'm sorry. You didn't make any fat jokes for yourself this week, so I had to make a couple.
[01:18:01] Speaker A: Wow.
[01:18:03] Speaker B: It's okay, man. Wow on top of it, you're looking like a naked mole rat right now because you shaved off all your facial hair. I think we said that already. But I mean, it's just I can't.
[01:18:13] Speaker A: Get over it sometimes I just got to remind people that I'm the boy wonder.
[01:18:19] Speaker B: More like boy asshole.
[01:18:23] Speaker A: Flaccid children.
[01:18:25] Speaker B: What is happening today anyways? What's your next fact? That one was fantastic. I want another. Thank you, sir. May I have another?
[01:18:33] Speaker A: Does that even make sense in your head, though?
[01:18:35] Speaker B: No.
Moving on.
[01:18:37] Speaker A: If you folded yourself, does it seem like you could fold yourself enough times to reach the moon?
[01:18:43] Speaker B: No.
[01:18:46] Speaker A: Number two.
[01:18:47] Speaker B: Number two.
[01:18:48] Speaker A: The human heart beats more than 2.5 billion times in the average lifetime.
[01:18:55] Speaker B: Nice.
[01:18:56] Speaker A: So I kind of equate this to thinking about, like, a car and, like, an engine. You think about putting 100,000 miles on a car. 200,000 miles on a car. Now, we were young, and that's like the life expectancy of your car, kind of. Once you hit that 200,000 miles mark, it's over. You're kind of like, I got to get a new car or a new engine, at least.
Or a new engine, at least when you're thinking about that two and a half billion times in the average lifetime. To build some context there. So your heart obviously beats faster when you're excited, slower when you're relaxed. What's your resting heart rate right now? In most cases, it maintains a pretty regular pace.
[01:19:31] Speaker B: Shut up. Wait. What's your resting heart rate?
[01:19:33] Speaker A: My resting heart rate right now is 90 beats per minute.
[01:19:38] Speaker B: Mine today is at 54.
[01:19:41] Speaker A: So I'm going to die at least a half as soon as you oh, man.
[01:19:45] Speaker B: It's almost over for you.
Kenny's life expectancy is half as much as mine.
[01:19:50] Speaker A: Most humans hearts beat an average of 60 to 70 times per minute and 100,000 times per day.
[01:19:55] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:19:56] Speaker A: So that takes you to 35 million times in a given year.
[01:19:59] Speaker B: That's a lot.
[01:20:02] Speaker A: This seems like you don't think about how hard your organs work.
[01:20:05] Speaker B: That's a lot of beats.
[01:20:07] Speaker A: 35 million.
Yeah, basically, that's a lot of beats.
Use your time wisely, because once your heart beats two and a half billion.
[01:20:18] Speaker B: Times over I hate when you start talking about these finite things when it comes to my life, because now I just feel like I'm going to die tomorrow.
[01:20:24] Speaker A: Because your life is finite.
[01:20:26] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't want to think about that, so shut your mouth.
[01:20:28] Speaker A: It's absolutely finite.
[01:20:29] Speaker B: Shut your damn mouth.
[01:20:31] Speaker A: I will shut it on the human heartbeats.
[01:20:33] Speaker B: What's your last fact?
[01:20:34] Speaker A: This final fact? We got to be really careful.
[01:20:36] Speaker B: I'm glad I guessed. Well, because I didn't know if it was your last with we're going to.
[01:20:41] Speaker A: Be really careful here because I don't want to devolve into the little known law of which you want to talk about the law of, uh, which probably nobody outside of Ronnie and I understand, because it's our theorem.
The law of Patrick essentially says somebody.
[01:20:58] Speaker B: Made up words and letters and what.
[01:21:00] Speaker A: They sound the sounds of letters, and then what the words.
[01:21:03] Speaker B: So who's to say that a syllable or a letter doesn't sound one way or another? Who's to say it sounds a specific way?
[01:21:11] Speaker A: Like, if I invented the C and the A and the T, I could have made this phonetically say Boyle. Yeah, but someone named them cat. So nonetheless, a couple once tried to name their child BR Fxccxmnpcllmnprxvclmnckssqlb 1116 and pronounced it albin.
[01:21:44] Speaker B: How do you get albin from that? Was there even an albin from that?
Also? Was this person named. Elon Musk.
[01:21:52] Speaker A: They were not.
[01:21:53] Speaker B: Didn't Elon Musk try and name his kids something wild?
[01:21:57] Speaker A: His name is, like, Archangel F 16 x something in the state of California overruled that. In a very similar case.
[01:22:06] Speaker B: Elon Musk is wild.
[01:22:07] Speaker A: Man this couple had reportedly chosen the title to protest Sweden's strict name related laws. Which is why it may or may not be surprising that this election was also rejected.
[01:22:19] Speaker B: Yeah, because that's not how you spell.
[01:22:21] Speaker A: Albin, which sounds like just part of the problem. But if you're going to be a problem, don't just be a part of the problem. Be the whole damn problem.
[01:22:31] Speaker B: And only you can prevent river fires. Burning river sportscast man, the juices were flowing this week. It felt much better than last week.
[01:22:39] Speaker A: My juices are two weeks ago. My juices are always flowing.
[01:22:42] Speaker B: That sounds sexual. I don't like it. Burning river sports burning river, burning river burning river burning river burning river burning river, burning river.
[01:22:52] Speaker A: Because you drove a Hyundai to get here tonight. I drove an $80,000 BMW. That's my name. What do you mean, funny? Funny how? How am I funny? It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.
[01:23:09] Speaker B: I desperately want to make love to a schoolboy.
[01:23:12] Speaker A: Man, I'm glad I called that guy motorboat. You play the motorboat.
You motorboat son of a bitch.
[01:23:20] Speaker B: You old sailor, you.
We are through.
[01:23:25] Speaker A: We are through for Apple.
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