Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Sam, it's time. Time for the Burning river sportscast.
Browns 31, Dolphins 6.
We win.
[00:01:06] Speaker B: We did it.
Son of a.
This is what this feels like, huh?
[00:01:12] Speaker A: Yeah, I guess so. It's been a minute.
[00:01:14] Speaker B: It's been. It's. It's been quite a minute.
And I'm. I'm gonna be 100 honest with you. I'm not real sure how I'm supposed to feel right now.
[00:01:24] Speaker A: I'm still processing.
[00:01:25] Speaker B: Yeah, it's on several different levels. Right. It's on like, am I supposed to feel really good about this or am I still really confused on what our team actually is?
[00:01:38] Speaker A: I mean, a win's a win, so you feel good about the win, but.
[00:01:40] Speaker B: I'm excited about that. My Sunday was great because we won, so I was like, there's.
[00:01:45] Speaker A: But there's certainly still a fair amount of questions.
[00:01:50] Speaker B: But with that being said, you don't have any silly things about me today to introduce me, so that's nice. Thanks.
It's still Hashtag firestofansky. That it is.
I will second that notion.
[00:02:04] Speaker A: Don't worry, we won't disappoint you.
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[00:03:22] Speaker A: You name it, they frame it.
[00:03:24] Speaker B: And they provided the game day poster which Kenny will show you in just a moment for our giveaway that's running right now. You got one week left to enter.
Next Sunday we will be giving that thing away.
So yeah, get excited on tonight's show. This is what you can look forward to. We got a recap of today's Week 7 win over the Dalt d Dolphins. Yeah, I said win. That didn't. That's right.
[00:03:47] Speaker A: Filet of fish.
[00:03:49] Speaker B: Yeah.
Our nominees for dog of the week.
Did the offense show any life? Did the defense bounce back? What changes we expect as the season progresses.
Some interesting activities this week from one of the Browns quarterbacks. Why, my co host is in a neck brace and I'm sure there will be more. So let's get things started by reminding everyone to call the burning of a sportscast hot take hotline.
That's right. Don't forget to call. Leave your hot takes on the hot take hotline. Remember, these are hot takes. We want hot takes.
[00:04:21] Speaker A: Call us and tell us.
[00:04:22] Speaker B: Yeah, we're gonna put those on the air. We'll. We'll play them during our recording tomorrow. That's on our Thursday show. We'll talk about your hot takes.
I mean, if you don't have anything to say about this team, I don't know what's wrong with you.
It's like the most polarizing team I've ever known in all of sports.
[00:04:41] Speaker A: Quit airing your. Your dirty laundry on on Twitter and. And air it here.
[00:04:46] Speaker B: Yeah, we want your dirty laundry.
[00:04:47] Speaker A: Yeah, we do laundry.
[00:04:50] Speaker B: The number to call. 330-227-8081.
[00:04:56] Speaker A: Sorry, one way. 330227-8081.
[00:04:59] Speaker B: 33022780. 81 call now. We'll put that on the air. And then as I just mentioned, Kenny, pick up the. The game day poster.
[00:05:11] Speaker A: I can't pick that up right now.
[00:05:12] Speaker B: Oh, you got a broken.
[00:05:13] Speaker A: Can't really move over.
[00:05:14] Speaker B: He broke his freaking neck.
So we're giving away. In case you haven't heard, we're doing a second giveaway this season.
We. We're doing in partnership with primetime sports and framing an autographed Miles Garrett game day poster giveaway.
[00:05:28] Speaker A: It's a real nice poster.
[00:05:30] Speaker B: Yeah, it's from. There's pictures of it online. Kenny can't hold it.
[00:05:34] Speaker A: Yeah, you can find it there.
[00:05:35] Speaker B: Yeah. So the winner will be chosen from following the entry directions on our social media posts, and you can earn 50 bonus entries by subscribing to our YouTube channel at Burning River Sportscast. Don't have a YouTube account? Make one.
[00:05:46] Speaker A: Make one.
[00:05:47] Speaker B: It only takes about five minutes. The entry period ends, as I mentioned, next Sunday, 10:26, about an hour before game time. And we will announce the winner on our live show that evening. So get entered and good luck.
[00:06:00] Speaker A: Or we'll kick you in the Jimmies.
[00:06:01] Speaker B: Or we'll kick you in the Jimmy. So let's do it. Kenny. Week seven recap. Let's jump right into it. You want to start with the offense or the defense?
[00:06:11] Speaker A: Probably the offense.
Yeah.
[00:06:16] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll start with the offense. So let's start with Quinch on Judkins. Actually, Quinch on Judkins had 25 carries. He's the first Browns running back Since, I think 2012. Peyton Hillis, if I'm not mistaken.
Correct. Yeah. To get 25 carries in a game. And yes, you heard that right. That's the disservice that I'm going there already. Kevin Stefanski did to Nick Chubb. He never gave him 25 carries in a game in his prime.
[00:06:43] Speaker A: Not even once.
[00:06:44] Speaker B: Not even once.
But, yeah, quinch on Judkins. 25 carries. I think it's 84 yards. I lost my spot. Where the. There it is. 84 yards, three touchdowns today, including two out of the Wild Car or Wildcat, so.
[00:07:00] Speaker A: Feels bad. I was offered him in a fancy trade this week and I declined.
[00:07:04] Speaker B: It's a bad job out of you, I see. This is. This is why you're not very good at picking competitions. This is why you're not very good at fantasy football.
[00:07:11] Speaker A: Yeah. You know what else? Devonta Smith had a career high in yards today, and CD Lamb caught two touchdowns for like a million yards. Both sat on my bench. And I played Jalen Waddle instead.
[00:07:22] Speaker B: Once again, well, for me, this is. This is why.
Why would you play Jalen Waddle?
[00:07:29] Speaker A: I thought they were going to score 40 points and we were going to score Tsunami.
I mean. Yeah, it didn't end up well. I get it. Thanks.
[00:07:38] Speaker B: That was. I just hope you know that if we had any credibility whatsoever on our show, we've completely lost it now because people heard what you do in fantasy football. They're like, we can't pay attention to anything this guy says.
[00:07:51] Speaker A: Yeah. Look, I don't tell people to listen to my fantasy advice.
[00:07:55] Speaker B: Back to the Browns game, though.
Quinn shot Judkins 25 for 84, three touchdowns. The 46 yard rush was really nice.
I mean, and that was the first time since he's been on the Browns that he showed a little bit of breakaway speed. I was like, oh, they didn't catch him.
[00:08:15] Speaker A: Yeah, he had plenty of speed on that one. Yeah. And strong running through there, but that's a fair point.
[00:08:23] Speaker B: Redo his average after removing that long touchdown. It's like 1.4 yards of carry or something.
[00:08:28] Speaker A: Yeah, look, I think. Well, we can obviously break down the.
The numbers in today's game, but today was such a seasonal anomaly.
They were talking about wind gusts of 40 miles an hour, you know, spitting rain. It was windy all day. It was chilly.
Nothing normal. There was nothing normal about today.
[00:08:51] Speaker B: 1.58 yards of carry, in case you're wondering.
[00:08:54] Speaker A: And it was a day that both teams were just surviving. And I think you saw just very clearly, like there was one team on the field that had any kind of resilience left in them, and that was the Browns. And. And Miami just is not just not made to play in that weather. They weren't tough. They didn't play tough. They didn't play hard. I mean, look, we can barely play it all. We can. We can break this down a million ways, and that's fine. But at the end of the day, like, this was a team that couldn't execute the center quarterback exchange, and it happened not only with. With TUA in the game, but also happened with Quinn Ewers in the game. So if you're. If you're not able to do those basic fundamentals. What, they have 10 penalties for like 130 yards. Like you're being generous.
[00:09:39] Speaker B: They had. They had 11.
They had 11 penalties for 103.
[00:09:44] Speaker A: So, yeah, I mean, they just. That was a team that was not prepared to play. Obviously, they've got a lot going on politically in their organization right now. Mike McDaniels is probably facing a pink slip within.
[00:09:56] Speaker B: Yeah. If he doesn't get fired by tomorrow, I don't.
I think we have problems. But, like, if you lose to the Browns, this Brown, this iteration of the Browns, like that, and you're not fired within 24 hours, something's wrong with your team.
[00:10:10] Speaker A: Yeah, it was ugly. And I just think that there was no life and no fight left in that. In that team. Two was throwing the ball just to anyone. Quinn, you were about through the ball into traffic on his first series.
[00:10:22] Speaker B: Don't forget about me.
[00:10:23] Speaker A: Don't forget about me. I could throw the other team, too. Like, you know, especially the Browns. Right. It's not like this team has been ball hawking and forcing turnovers all year long. This was.
This was the exception to the rule where all of a sudden we have four turnovers in a game and basically all Dylan Gabriel had to do was not give them the ball. And then we win.
[00:10:47] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And we'll get to Dylan Gabriel in just a second. James Frank on Facebook just said that Stefanski must have caught Kenny out and about.
So sick of us talking shit on the podcast that he whooped your ass.
Listen, let's be. Let's be real, James. There's no way a pretty boy like Kevin Stefanski could do any damage to anyone.
[00:11:11] Speaker A: I think I could take Steph.
[00:11:13] Speaker B: Yeah, I think. I think just about anybody can. I'm not gonna get in trouble by what I was gonna say.
[00:11:24] Speaker A: But anyways, if you are admiring my neck brace.
[00:11:28] Speaker B: You want to tell them.
[00:11:29] Speaker A: That is compliments of our dear friend, former Cleveland Brown defensive tackle John Hughes.
[00:11:36] Speaker B: If you didn't catch it on our social medias, I posted a couple pictures that just kind of a sneak peek for some of the videos we'll have coming out in the next week or two.
But basically, yeah, Kenny loses King of the north every year, so he always gets punished. And this year's punishment was taking three full pads for both of them. But he had to take three hits from John Hughes while a bunch of high school kids yelled at him, told him how bad he sucked. Not John Hughes. Kenny told Kenny how bad he sucked. Although the high school kids did tell John Hughes they could take him too.
[00:12:11] Speaker A: So, yeah, they wanted to do. They wanted to do battle. But I can tell you after being hit by John Hughes, you don't want to do battle with John Hughes.
[00:12:18] Speaker B: Don't battle them.
[00:12:19] Speaker A: No.
[00:12:19] Speaker B: Hence the next neck brace.
[00:12:22] Speaker A: Bruised, C4, L4, D4, P4, whatever. It's all broken.
[00:12:26] Speaker B: Name it, it's bruised.
But yeah, he's Kenny guy. Kenny got effed up, just to put it lightly.
[00:12:36] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:12:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
But yeah, one more thing before we get to Dylan Gabriel on offense, though. Joel Batonio, 168th start today.
That's the most by any Browns player since 1999. So that's pretty impressive.
[00:12:48] Speaker A: And to think you almost retired in the off season. You would have missed that.
[00:12:53] Speaker B: That would have felt bad.
What's better, like getting this record and playing this season with this shit show or just retiring and be like, yeah, I was a few games away. I would have got it, but I didn't have to play in that.
[00:13:09] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, if I was Petonio, I'd be on a boat right now somewhere in the. In the Caribbean.
[00:13:14] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:15] Speaker A: Not one in neck race.
[00:13:17] Speaker B: Dewey said high school kids recover better than. Than us old guys.
Yeah, you ain't. You ain't lying. So Kenny will be feeling this for the next week and a half, but. Yeah. So let's. Let's talk about Dylan Gabriel. I know a lot of people will try and tell you that he looked a lot better.
I. My take on this week is.
[00:13:37] Speaker A: Was there a consensus. Was that the consensus where people saying. I mean, I saw a lot of mixed reviews so far just on socials. Was there a large contingent of people saying that he. Well, because I think it was hard to justify the fact that anyone truly played well at this game because it was just such a sloppy mess.
[00:13:53] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, basically what I'm saying, what I'm seeing across most. Most social media is there is mixed reviews, like you said. But it's more so like he managed the game well, you know, he didn't turn the ball over in a sloppy game, all this, you know, those kind of things. So it's like growth is what they're. What they're seeing. News flash, Dylan Gabriel ain't growing 5 foot 9 forever. Yeah.
What are our nicknames for him so far? We got Hawaii 59, Little Co Lil, Lava Lamp.
Yeah. We got some good ones out there. So take your pick. But he's not growing, so. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I'm with you, Kenny. Like, you can't really. There was nothing because the game was so sloppy. There was nothing to take away from this game. Like there. He threw 18 passes for 114 yards or whatever it was.
[00:14:43] Speaker A: Yeah. And a lot of those were just like we saw the previous week. A lot of extension of the run game. You know, a lot of rollouts, swings, flats, and a lot of the. The yardage that was accrued was. Was yak yardage. So, you know, they didn't really throw the ball downfield. The couple that he did were questionable at best. The under through Jerry Judy, big time on the one time he threw the ball, pushed the ball at all, and.
[00:15:06] Speaker B: He just knew if he got it to Jerry Judy, he'd find a way to drop it, so.
[00:15:09] Speaker A: Well, that's true, that's true. But I just think there was very little to. I mean, you can point.
You can point to his decision making. I mean, it's still pretty good.
He didn't turn the ball over I guess so. I, you know, for whatever that's worth, even if you put the ball in traffic, I guess as long as the other team doesn't come up with it, that's. That's a win.
[00:15:32] Speaker B: For what this is worth. James on Facebook asked what his QBR was.23.5.
[00:15:38] Speaker A: Yeah. Which is all right. Yeah. Which is probably about what his QBR is going to be most of the time. I mean, again, he, he didn't do anything that would cause you to lose the game, but he didn't do anything that would cause you to win the game either. Their guy, the guy that they picked in the third round that they had as the second highest quarterback on their draft board is so good that they don't want him in. In the red zone twice.
[00:16:02] Speaker B: Yeah. And don't get us wrong, I know Dewey threw up here. Got to keep the wildcat package with Judkins. I agree. I think I like, I like seeing at least some sort of creativity in the offense and. But it just seemed like an odd place to put it that the franchise, quote unquote, franchise quarterback, your guy, the number two quarterback on the draft board behind Cam Ward.
You don't want him playing in the red zone.
[00:16:27] Speaker A: Well, what was fascinating about those snaps was they took him completely off the field.
[00:16:32] Speaker B: A lot of times the quarterback make him a receiver. Yeah.
[00:16:35] Speaker A: A lot of times a quarterback at least stays on the field because you don't know what they're going to do. They might run some kind of reverse and a flea flick or whatever. Like quarterback might catch the pass. Like something unexpected. They just took him completely out of the game. And they were like, we're not even going to try and trick you. We're just running the ball. We're just. That's, that's it.
[00:16:52] Speaker B: No trick plays here. We just don't want our quarterback playing.
Dewey's not a fan of qbr.
[00:16:59] Speaker A: I see that.
[00:17:04] Speaker B: But. Yeah. So I don't know. Like, to me, it's unfortunate that the game was so sloppy weather wise because what it does is it just sets the entire franchise because everything hinges on the quarterback and coaching stuff of this year.
It just set everything back another week.
[00:17:22] Speaker A: Because everything back another week.
[00:17:23] Speaker B: You can't evaluate anything in a game like that. You don't watch tape and you say this was really sloppy.
[00:17:28] Speaker A: You learned literally nothing today.
That was. At the end of the day there was.
And you know, you only get 17 of these. So each week you're hoping to see some kind of growth, some type of, of linear development, something That'll tell you the trajectory is directionally correct.
A win is good, a win is a win. And it's tough to win in the NFL. But, but this was not. There was no conventional way of getting there today and the offense just really didn't do anything. It felt like a lot of the scoring was, was positioned frankly by the defense.
Yeah, it.
[00:18:06] Speaker B: I, I think I told you when we were getting ready to, to jump on the show here is it felt like the Browns were playing this year's Browns.
[00:18:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Like that's not unfair.
[00:18:16] Speaker B: Every time, every time their offense was on the field, they turned it over and gave it to us with like 20 yards or less to go in the red zone.
[00:18:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:18:26] Speaker B: Yeah. And so it's.
[00:18:27] Speaker A: And I mean when you do that.
[00:18:28] Speaker B: You have like, you can't help but score points.
[00:18:31] Speaker A: And they had every. It was basically one of those Murphy's Law games for Miami. Right. Everything that could go wrong. Did you had the fumble on the kick return.
You know, all the interceptions, all the penalties. I mean stuff that just shouldn't happen in a game and it just, everything went wrong for them. So.
[00:18:50] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:51] Speaker A: You learned nothing as a Browns fan today other than the fact that your records 2 and 5 instead of 1 and 6.
[00:18:57] Speaker B: Dewey, we're going to have to bring you on the show sometime because you just, you're usually on fire in the comments and you had two back to back that were really good. Browns versus Brown south is just hilarious. But highlight the one before that. Kenny.
Thank God it was sloppy. Only reason Stefanski didn't throw the ball 58 times. You're 100% right. And that's, it's crazy to think about because you would think that like a game like this would wake him up. Like, oh, maybe this is how we win games. Like we won handily because our defense played well and we ran the ball the entire game. We didn't give up on it at a single moment during this game.
But no, we're going to come back next week and throw up 58 times.
[00:19:35] Speaker A: There was, there was one time in this game where coaching mattered at all, where like play calling mattered and Stefanski failed miserably. And it was at the end of the half when they had the ball down on their two yard line and it was third and 12 or whatever and you're dropping back with Dylan Gabriel in the end zone. You almost took a safety there. For what reason?
Why, why not just run the ball, force them to use their last time out before you give the ball back to them with under four minutes to play.
[00:20:07] Speaker B: No, that's too. No, they're going to expect that. You got to do the unexpected.
[00:20:12] Speaker A: They die. And they had a penalty in the end zone. They dodged the fact that it was illegal hands to the face and not a holding call, so it wasn't a safety, but it could have just as easily been a holding call. And it was almost a damn near sack because.
And a little lava lamp barely got out of the end zone.
[00:20:26] Speaker B: So coconut.
I just.
[00:20:30] Speaker A: That was like. That was the only coaching point that I even took away from today's game because nothing else really mattered but the one point where there was any type of game clock management situation going on.
It just went up in flames spectacularly, like Stefanski always does.
[00:20:44] Speaker B: Failure. What's that?
The quote from Step Brothers?
[00:20:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:52] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, it was really bad. But let's talk about the defense a little bit because I think, bottom line, our offense still wasn't good, so everybody should not get excited. It's kind of tough to be in a game like this. But still, I mean, there's no reason to think our offense going into next week with the weather being good is going to somehow turn things on and score 31 points again. I just don't buy it.
[00:21:11] Speaker A: Can I. Before we jump to the defense, I got. I have just one final thought around this offense and Dylan Gabriel. And, you know, I.
I don't want to make myself a hypocrite. I want to be consistent on these things. Look, he's 1 and 2, is a starter now.
He hasn't made a ton of mistakes. He's just been kind of very boringly just. Just there.
But he hasn't done anything to necessarily get himself benched.
And, you know, part of me is itching to see Shador just because I want to see him.
I don't know what that transition looks like. Like, is it possible that he plays next week and if it's still kind of ho hum, they take the buy and say, okay, let's give Shador a couple games and then go. Whoever seemed like they could manage the offense better before the end of the year? I don't know. My guess is they're going to run this Dylan Gabriel thing out until, like, the wheels totally fall off of him. Which is disappointing because we probably won't see Shador then until like week 15 or 16.
But again, like, Dylan does deserve his chance. Like, it's not his fault that the Browns drafted him and that he's in this offense. So I want to be fair to him. But I also just think like every time that I've seen him to this point. And I know again, you can't judge a guy completely off of three games and let's call it two and a quarter and a half because today was such a sloppy mess anyways. It's not fair to just outright judge him. But to me, he's met every expectation of what I thought he was, which is a mid level backup in this league.
He doesn't elevate the players around him. I mean, this offense has been stagnant and boring to watch. I mean, today was an anomaly with the 31 points versus the 17 that they've been scoring.
But I think where I'm at with Dylan Gabriel is. Dylan Gabriel is.
He's that random girl that you dated just somewhere along your path in life.
And there was nothing particularly wrong with her. She was moderately attractive, she was nice to you, your parents didn't hate her, you come over for dinner and everybody got along.
And it's, you know, deep down though, you kind of know like, she's not the girl you're going to marry.
So then it just becomes this game of how long am I going to continue to date this person? Because I don't really have a reason to break up with them other than the fact that like, I know I'm probably not going to marry them. And the longer it goes, every birthday party she shows up at, every graduation party, every grandparent that dies, like, it gets harder, harder and harder to cut ties and just be like, you're not, you're just not the one. And, and I think that's what Dylan Gabriel is, and that's my fear, is that we're going to end up in this perpetual cycle of like, he's just not suck enough to just like get him off the field.
But he's never going to be the one.
[00:24:12] Speaker B: Yeah, no, he's not. I wouldn't necessarily call him the rebound chick, but I don't even know that he's a rebound.
[00:24:19] Speaker A: He's just that he's just that girl that you dated for too long somewhere along the line that like, there was.
[00:24:24] Speaker B: Never going to be a future because you just, you just knew deep down there was something better out there.
[00:24:28] Speaker A: Yeah, like there was just. She just wasn't the one. And it wasn't that she did anything necessarily wrong or, or bad or mean or she didn't screw the relationship up. So, you know, she just, she just wasn't the one. She wasn't the one for you.
[00:24:43] Speaker B: You're basically telling Me that Dylan Gabriel is to Cleveland Brown fan base.
Well, Baker Mayfield was to Kevin Stefanski.
He just wasn't the one.
[00:24:57] Speaker A: Well, I don't even know that I can make that. That argument because I don't think Dylan Gabriel is ever going to be in the MVP conversation, so.
[00:25:03] Speaker B: Well, no, he's not.
[00:25:04] Speaker A: Years from now, when he's not a Brown, I don't think he's going to be in any kind of, you know.
[00:25:11] Speaker B: Absolutely not. Absolutely not.
[00:25:13] Speaker A: That's. That's the one placeholder. He's a placeholder. He's the girl that you dated because there was no one else around at the time and you just kind of stuck with it because they were there.
[00:25:23] Speaker B: Yeah, that's fair.
I. I do want to say something about Dylan Gabriel, though, real quick, while we're still on the subject. James on Facebook said that.
He said, I don't really see the big difference between DTR and Gabriel other than DTR is taller and mobile and can throw the ball more than 10 yards.
Wow, that's a funny comment.
DTR was ass, man. DTR was so bad. And Dylan Gabriel at least shows a little bit of ability.
[00:25:52] Speaker A: I think the biggest difference between the two is Dylan Gabriel is at the very least, like, we haven't seen him really push the ball down the field. We've only seen him Dink and Dunk. But he's accurate.
[00:26:03] Speaker B: Dylan, Dink and Dunk. That's our other nickname for him. He's.
[00:26:06] Speaker A: He's accurate. Where DTR was just who. Who knew where the ball was going to go when it left his hand? He didn't even know.
And so, you know, I think there's some of that with dg. Like, we'll see what happens when, if, you know, the weather clear.
[00:26:21] Speaker B: Another1 Just DG. Just. We just, we say all the.
[00:26:25] Speaker A: I call him DG all the time because his name is just.
There's just so many syllables in his name.
And so I just. I think, like, we'll see how much more of an accurate passer he is over time. But I just. I think there's a very clear, definitive difference in. In their accuracy off the bat. Now, dtr, certainly more athletic, bigger body, certainly more mobile.
All those things are true.
But I. The one thing that you need a quarterback to do, he was incapable of.
[00:26:55] Speaker B: Yeah, DTR is bad, man.
Like, you're. I just want to say you're. You're. Legitimately, statistically, you're talking about the worst quarterback that's ever played in the NFL.
Like, we, we had a Whole segment on this last year on our show. Statistically, that is not a joke. That is a serious thing.
DTR was the worst quarterback that's ever played in the NFL.
[00:27:18] Speaker A: Yeah. His quarter. His QBR was like, zero.
[00:27:21] Speaker B: Yeah, it was terrible.
Anyway, that's. Now.
Anyways out of the defense. Defense played really well in this one. Obviously forced four turnovers in this one.
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[00:27:44] Speaker A: Tyson Campbell.
[00:27:45] Speaker B: Yeah. Tyson Campbell came in and the new guy housed one today, so that was nice to see.
And, yeah, I mean, the defense was all over it all day. Like, they looked. They made Miami look like a peewee team. So.
[00:28:00] Speaker A: Yeah, it was funny because I. As the game went on, you kept hearing who was on the call today? Archuleta and Spiro Adidas and Annie Archuleta. Nice.
Yeah. Adam or Chuletta from.
Or David Archuleta.
[00:28:16] Speaker B: Yeah. I didn't even get his name right.
[00:28:18] Speaker A: Anyway, pop culture.
Yeah, we're bad at that. But as the game went on, it felt like every. Like, second series spirit. Adidas was like, that guy's been all over the field today.
Yeah, they all. Every single one of them. Every single guy has had a big day.
[00:28:37] Speaker B: He was. He was excited about it.
Miles Garrett finally got back on the board with the sack today, though.
He.
You know, I have to walk myself back a little bit. Not that I'm giving Miles Garrett any shit, but I said early in the year, we've never seen Miles Garrett have a start like that. Well, he proceeded to go three games with, like, no stats, so then it was like, it's just a normal start now.
[00:29:02] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. It was almost like Miles was like, all right, guys. Like, prove to me that you're not just gonna be sock. Yeah. And then once. Once they scored some points and things were going well, he was like, all right, I'll join the party again.
[00:29:14] Speaker B: Yeah, that's pretty much what it seemed like. Grant Delpic got in there with a sack today.
[00:29:18] Speaker A: So Grant Del. But also forced the fumble on the kick return.
[00:29:22] Speaker B: Yeah. Big day for him.
Yeah. I mean, the defense was lights out. Ronnie Hickman with an interception. We already mentioned Tyson Campbell with an interception. Rayshawn Jenkins with an interception.
[00:29:33] Speaker A: Well, that's the thing. Like, even guys like. Like that, that aren't big names, like, found their way into this game. Guys like Miles Harden had a decent game. Donovan McMillan was making special teams plays. Like, there was. There was guys all over. Rayshawn Jenkins had the. The interception. Like, it just Was a real.
[00:29:50] Speaker B: Also recovered a fumble.
[00:29:52] Speaker A: Yeah. Just a real team effort across the board on the defensive side of the ball. And now, I don't know, like, again, Miami just wasn't here to play. So.
[00:30:01] Speaker B: Did you highlight that comment?
[00:30:05] Speaker A: I can't do this show.
[00:30:10] Speaker B: Dude.
[00:30:11] Speaker A: I'm not gonna read that one. We'll just let the. If you're. You're watching the broadcast, you'll see it.
[00:30:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Commentary is bad. Campbell over Newsome for sure. James.
Yeah, I mean, they were. The defense was phenomenal today, so it was good to see. And then also Miami had six fumbles, so, I mean, a little bit of it. We understand how sloppy it was. We understand maybe that's not all on the defense forcing everything. And some of it had to do with the rain and Miami being completely unprepared.
[00:30:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Even. Even Quinton John bobbled the ball in that wildcat snap.
[00:30:43] Speaker B: He scored a touchdown, though.
[00:30:44] Speaker A: But he at least caught it.
[00:30:45] Speaker B: Yeah. And then he scored a touchdown.
But, yeah, I mean, three fumbles from Tua, two from Quinn Ewers, one from D. Eskridge, one from Devon Ashain, and one from Larry Boreham.
[00:31:00] Speaker A: Yeah. If you put the ball in jeopardy 10 times during a game, you're never gonna win. So it doesn't matter who you're playing and how good their offense is, you're never gonna win.
[00:31:09] Speaker B: We legitimately couldn't help but win 316 today. Like. Right? Had to.
[00:31:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Cause the offense did nothing and we scored 31 points. So.
[00:31:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
So.
Yeah. And then next up here, special teams. I actually wanted to mention the special teams today because Andre Schmidt, if I'm not mistaken, was perfect again today.
One on one field goals, four or four extra points in. In a tsunami like that. That's impressive stuff. So, I mean, after, you know, he got our dog of the week last week. He was the only one scored points for the Browns.
And then coming back and making everything in a game like this this week, I mean, I'm. I honestly have no. I know he missed the one early in the season, but I have no worries as far as Andre Schmidt. Like, he seems like a capable kicker in the NFL.
[00:31:58] Speaker A: Look, look, I'm not going to shit on Schmidt right now. Like, he's doing his job. I would. I would caution you that, like, have any of these kicks really mattered? I mean, very few of them. The one at the end of the Green Bay game. Sure.
Outside of that, have any of these kicks mattered? Is the pressure been on?
Like, this team's not good? I think he's probably mentally, like, I'm going to keep launching it, and if I make it, I make it great. I'm going to keep getting paid, and if I don't, I don't. Like, there's no super bowl on the line. There's no playoffs on the line. There's no division crown on the line. These games are absolutely meaningless. And he hasn't had a leverage kick all year long.
[00:32:35] Speaker B: Following Dustin Hopkins, though, your job's on the line every week, so I'm at least going to stand by. It was impressive to see him make all of them today.
[00:32:42] Speaker A: Oh, look.
[00:32:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:32:43] Speaker A: Every week that you make your kicks, like, yeah, you get a. You get A plus in the book. But.
But I'm just saying, like, I'm still not comfortable if. If we were playing Cincinnati for the wild card spot right now, next week, and it was, you know, do or died, is that the guy that I want kicking the ball at the end of the game in the snow? I'm not sure.
[00:33:05] Speaker B: That's. That's probably fair. That's fair.
[00:33:07] Speaker A: I'll do you one better, though. As long as we're talking about specialist, because he was your player to watch. Corba Jorquez dropped three inside of the 20 today, so good job, Bojo.
[00:33:16] Speaker B: He's a dog.
I would nominate him for dog of the week, but I don't think anybody would vote for him.
[00:33:22] Speaker A: The puncher.
[00:33:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:33:23] Speaker A: We love talking specialists on the Bernie river sports cat.
[00:33:26] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, he did drop three inside the 28. He had a longest 60 today, too. That's pretty good.
Yeah.
Gurus look like Stefanski.
[00:33:41] Speaker A: That's gonna have to open up a third spot on the show here.
[00:33:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
And then one more before we leave, before we stop talking about the defense, James wants to know if we think this was Graham's best game so far.
[00:33:58] Speaker A: Best game. I mean, he was again today. I just, like, I have to. Like, it just doesn't matter to anyone. Like, yeah, everybody played well today. Like, you know, was this his best game? Sure. But it was a sloppy mess, and it was a disaster. Like, I would expect my Maulers on the inside to do well in a sloppy game like this. If you're not, I don't know why you're. Why you're here.
So I don't know. I go back to, like, the Green Bay game and the pressures that the defense was able to create and the havoc they were able to create from a disruptive standpoint, and I think that might have been the defensive front's best game, but but he was good today. He wasn't bad.
He was good.
[00:34:41] Speaker B: I'm kind of with you. The game that sticks out to me most so far is the Green Bay game. And that was another game that the defense played lights out in, but it just seemed like he was just causing havoc in the middle of the line that entire game. They couldn't do anything up the middle. So I don't know.
I would go with the Green Bay game still. But he did have a good game today, so, I mean, not knocking him at all, but. Yeah, let's look.
[00:35:09] Speaker A: And it's like, you know, as long as he's not an absolute bust, like, you know, defensive tackles, one of those, like, almost free pass plays. When you draft a guy that high, that's, that's, that's any good, like if he's, if he's moderate to okay as a starter, like, you're never going to get killed for drafting that guy. They traded back to get him. They acquired an extra pick.
Travis Hunter's kind of been up and down a little bit so far, so, like, there's not a ton of noise there on that. It would be nice to have a top end receiver on this team. I don't know if Travis Hunter's that guy, but, but, you know, as long as he doesn't absolutely blow week to week, like, I still, I don't have a problem with that pick. It wasn't sexy and it wasn't exciting, but he's fine.
He's a good piece and a good building block for what this front's going to be for the next few years.
[00:36:00] Speaker B: Yep.
So moving on here, coaching, any, any big notes for you coaching wise? I mean, he already talked about how Stefanik had to coach one time today and he couldn't coach. So.
[00:36:10] Speaker A: Yeah, the only coaching point was, was that one play that I already mentioned. So I just.
This offense didn't do anything.
[00:36:18] Speaker B: James on Facebook. The one time Kevin isn't conservative is the time you need him to be conservative.
[00:36:24] Speaker A: Yeah, right. 100%.
Just makes no sense, the things that he does. I mean, even, even. I mean, even Spiro and we're like, what's he doing here? Like, I don't know that I, I agree with it. Like, it's rare that the commentators actually call out the coach on live tv.
[00:36:42] Speaker B: Like, to that especially, especially both of them, like, united front. They're like, yeah, I don't know what the hell that was. Like, usually one of them's like, well, you know, he might have been thinking this. And then, no, I try to come.
[00:36:52] Speaker A: Up with some reasonable explanation, but when there isn't one, like, yeah, that's not good.
[00:36:58] Speaker B: No, not good at all.
Let's see. I lost my placement notes here. So besides, besides Stefanik, I mean, Schwartz is still a dog. I still maintain. I'm gonna, I'm gonna. What is this, like the fifth, sixth, seventh time I've said this now? I'm still saying that we're Jim Schwartz for president. Yeah, well, I'm not even gonna go president. I'll just say for head coach, we need to fire Kevin Stefanski tomorrow and promote Jim Schwartz to head coach.
[00:37:25] Speaker A: It was good to see them mix it up a little bit today. And they did call this out on the broadcast, specifically the, the amount of. Of blitzing and different looks that they came up with because he's just historically not a big bring pressure guy. And a lot of that is to do with the luxury they have on the front with, with Miles Garrett. So you're able to create pressure with four guys a lot of the time. But it was interesting especially to see the DBs get involved blitz packages.
So that was very cool. Denzel was in there and Delpit, so that was, that was fun.
But again, just to your point, just goes. Just re. Reinstates or reinforces the. The point that Shorts is the only quarterback on this or the only coach on this staff that has any kind of creativity at all into going into these game plans.
[00:38:16] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely.
And I mean, honestly, like he's. He's also on top of being the only one that has any sort of game plan. He's the only one that holds his. That seems like he holds his players accountable. Like the defense, when they come over there and something goes wrong for the defense, he's there, he's talking to him. He's, you know, he's, he's actually coaching.
But anytime you see something happens to Fanix, just buried in his Denny's. Denny's menu and trying to figure out what he's gonna have for breakfast.
But yeah, any. Any major injuries in this one? I don't remember.
[00:38:52] Speaker A: I don't think anybody really left.
[00:38:54] Speaker B: Najoku didn't play from last week's injury.
[00:38:57] Speaker A: Didn't play.
[00:38:57] Speaker B: So Najoku was out.
But besides that, I don't know.
[00:39:03] Speaker A: Harold Fannin had another nice day and he only had like four, four catches or so. But I mean, with. With being the only tight end in the offense, I thought. I bet he afforded himself well again.
[00:39:13] Speaker B: I bet David Ajoku is so thankful that it rained like it did because we love the Chief.
We love Najoku being here as part of the Browns. But if it wouldn't have rained like that and we would have thrown the ball 58 times and 18 of them for 74 yards and a touchdown would have went to Fannin.
You know, tomorrow we might be talking about David Ajoku getting traded away.
[00:39:41] Speaker A: So, and look, I, we're, we're well on the record with how we feel about Andrew Barry and Stefanski both here. I would not blame Andrew Barry for making a move for just about anyone on this roster at this point, you're 2 and 5. I know the schedule is going to soften up here. I know that the division is not playing well.
I think, you know, Pittsburgh certainly is fallible and there's, you know, a chance, sure, I guess. But to me, this is like if you can, if you can get picks out of an Injoku or just anybody at this point, I have no problem with them moving anyone at this point to try and get better and try and build this team for next year.
[00:40:24] Speaker B: Nope.
So I guess with that, let's go ahead and jump into our Burning River Sportscast. Dog of the week nominees.
Quite a few guys played well this week. So Kenny, actually we'll start with Bone because Bone's not here. He sent his in.
Bone nominates Alex Wright for his Dog of the Week.
So I know those guys.
[00:40:49] Speaker A: It was all over the field today.
[00:40:50] Speaker B: Yeah, him and like 14 others. So, Kenny, who do you got for Dog of the Week?
[00:40:55] Speaker A: I'm gonna go Tyson Campbell.
Just, you know, he still only had what, like five practices with this unit, so the fact that he was able to come down with the ball today and get it into the end zone I thought was very cool. Was very fun. That we've been saying all year long the defense needs to score points in order for this football team to win.
And he delivered, you know, and just, you know, good, good for him. Because I'm sure in his world personally, it's been a whirlwind couple of weeks to have to. You kind of get traded.
Really sure that was going to happen. All a sudden you got to move to Cleveland. Of all the places from Florida, like probably a lot of shitty things going on in his life personally.
[00:41:40] Speaker B: And then he's like, come on.
[00:41:43] Speaker A: Yeah, he got all this wind and rain and it's miserable. And you're like, why am I here? And then he comes down with a big play. So I'll go Tyson Campbell.
[00:41:51] Speaker B: Yep.
I, I, I think that you went high brow on Me. And you were like, I'm not taking the obvious choice.
[00:41:58] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, Judkins is the low IQ pick, right?
[00:42:00] Speaker B: I mean, that's why you left it for me. Thanks.
[00:42:03] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:42:03] Speaker B: Thank you.
Yeah. I'm gonna go. Quinn Sean Judkins, because if I didn't go with him at this point, everybody would just assume I'm an idiot. And because I'm going with them, they just assume I'm lazy.
[00:42:14] Speaker A: I mean, he's gonna win. We all know that. I'm just trying to give flowers to the other guys.
[00:42:18] Speaker B: That's fine. So, yeah, Quinn, John Judkins is my nominee for, for dog of the week, which we all know he's going to win.
Before we get to final thoughts, I had one more thing that I wanted to talk about.
I don't know if everybody saw on social media. I posted a short video earlier today just to address it, but today on social media started blowing up that, that one of Cleveland's quarterbacks was out there liking or favoriting tick tock videos of, you know, people trashing Kevin Stefanski's offense and how terrible it is.
That person was Deshaun Watson. And that person also liked one of our videos talking exactly about that.
And I think in the clip, again, that's on our social medias if you want to go check it out real quick. I have the screenshot of him favoriting the video and then I even put the video in that you were, you know, the synopsis of the, the video that in question. And basically what you say is Dylan Gabriel threw 58 passes for 200 yards at 55% completions. Like that's Kevin's offense. This is what we do.
And Deshawn Watson thought that was good. So.
And yes, it's verified. It's, it's, it's his account. It was his account on the, on the other one of the video that's been going around social media was his account that liked our video, that favorited our video on Tik Tok. So either either Deshawn Watson was turned up that night and having a bad day and it was like, I'm liking all this.
Or, or you know, he just has been just doing on this for a while and finally started letting it all out. I don't, I don't know.
[00:43:55] Speaker A: Welcome to the party, Deshaun Watson. We have no problem with you following us. That's totally fine. We appreciate the, like, I'm not going to backtrack on that either. The, the idea that, look, I'm also not going to Backtrack on the fact that I think it was a mistake to bring him here and there was too much baggage and the accusations. I'll never defend that side of it.
But I do think there's some level of apology owed to desean Watson, just about how bad he played here.
Because I think a lot of that I think we've come to know now is Stefanski's offense. So you can blame desean for a lot of things. I'm past the point. I've been able to blame him for being.
For the lack of production that he's had in Brown's uniform, because I'm at a point where I do believe that if he gets traded or cut or moves on to, you know, New Orleans next year, that he may very well throw over 5,000 yards again.
[00:44:54] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, and that was kind of what the question that I posed on. On our socials today was. Was.
I'm. I'm not sure. I. I think desean Watson is washed and I think he's not very good anymore. But I also think that Kevin's offense did him no favors and there was no chance for him, regardless of how good he might be right now, there was no chance for him to shine in an offense like this, because you've talked about it a million times in terms of Baker Mayfield, is that this offense was not made for Baker Mayfield because Baker Mayfield likes to create, he likes to get outside the pocket. He likes to do his own thing, and that's when he's at his best.
Sound familiar? That's Desean Watson when he threw for 5,000 yards. Was. He was outside the pocket. They said they talked about it all the time when they were trying to trash him, as they said. Yeah, we ran plays, but he kind of just ran around, did his own thing back there.
[00:45:43] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:45:44] Speaker B: So, you know, there's. It's no surprise that he didn't flourish in, In Kevin's dink and dunk offense. So.
[00:45:52] Speaker A: But it, but it also does speak to, just to the dysfunction, I guess, maybe in this locker room, the finger pointing, your current players online, liking social media posts from people that are trashing your coaching staff. I mean, yeah, it's not good.
[00:46:10] Speaker B: And yeah, I hear what you're saying, Dewey.
He. I, I agree with the part where he's trying to get. Oh, yeah.
[00:46:17] Speaker A: I don't feel bad for him in any way. It's not about that. I just think that no matter how good or not good that he was, I don't think it even mattered because I don't think that. That this offense was too bad that he was ever going to be successful in it.
[00:46:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:46:30] Speaker A: And let's. Let's take away just even the scheme. Look at the players that were here, the receivers and stuff, and this line that continued to age. Like, there were so many things that weren't addressed with this football team, with this offense, and we just thought because we had desean Watson, it was all going to get better.
You still have to continue to build a unit, and they didn't. So the fact that you have no supporting personnel and a coach that has no idea how to manage a clock or a. Let alone a game plan, like, he wasn't going to be successful even if he was Brett Favre, like, he had no chance here.
[00:47:09] Speaker B: No.
[00:47:09] Speaker A: And the Browns did that to themselves.
[00:47:11] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
So, yeah. That's all we're saying. We're not. We're. Yeah. Not. Not Watson apologist whatsoever. I think we're all on the same. Same page on our show that we should have never brought him here. But.
Yeah, I just. It's interesting that now he's coming out of the woodwork and liking all this stuff, and I agree he's probably trying to move on as f.
So, John.
[00:47:34] Speaker A: We'Ll have you on the show. You want to. You want to say your piece? We're. We're more than happy to have you. If you want to come in. You want to call what's really going on?
[00:47:41] Speaker B: No, I actually like this last comment, too, because I. I disagree with this. We could talk at length about this another time. I just want to throw it out there that I would agree Jimmy is responsible for Manziel. I would agree Jimmy is responsible for. For Shador. I will argue to the end of the earth that the Watson thing was 100% Andrew Barry and Kevin Stefanski, and they sold it to Jimmy.
[00:48:03] Speaker A: We had that conversation last week. You can listen to it on the Spotify or Apple podcast.
[00:48:08] Speaker B: Wherever you get your podcasts, go listen to it go. And then. And then you can join the show again.
[00:48:14] Speaker A: Are you giving Dewey's cue?
[00:48:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
Anyways, final thoughts this week. You want me to go first? You want to go first?
[00:48:21] Speaker A: Kenny, you can go first.
[00:48:24] Speaker B: My final thought this week is we. We actually. We didn't go to the game today, but we did go up to the muni lot to tailgate with some friends before the game started.
And I just got to say, I understand the weather was bad. I understand the Browns are bad. I understand the Dolphins are bad.
But we have. You know, I keep seeing all the time that everybody's so upset and up in arms that they're going to be moving to this dome and we're not going to have the Muni lot anymore, which forget the fact that the Muni Lot was going regardless of where we went.
People were complaining that there's not going to be a Muni Lot at the Dome. It's never going to be the same because the Haslams are going to own the parking lots, and the rules will be different. It'll just be a different vibe. It'll be commercial, whatever you want to call it.
I was at the Muni lot today, and I was disappointed is to say the least.
Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not calling out like. Like, you know, our friends up there, the. The Muni lot. Brownsbackers were. Were there in mass, just enjoying themselves. The front end of the Muni Lot, like, that first parking lot was packed as it ever is. Everybody was partying and going hard down there. But literally, as soon as you got out of that first lot, yeah, it's.
[00:49:33] Speaker A: Never the Die Hards. It's the casual fans that fill up the stadium.
[00:49:36] Speaker B: So, yeah, as soon as you got out of that lot, though, that first lot, it was just nobody.
I mean, we. We strolled in at, like. Like. We only went up there for, like, an hour, basically, to have some, like, tailgating food and like, one or two beers with our friends, then come back.
We strolled in at, like, 10. We got there at, like, 10:30 and went right in and parked right next to him. And I was like, what's happening here?
[00:49:58] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, look, I mean, I think, you know, there's this whole, like, countdown going on, right? It's like, oh, there's only 31 Munilot tailgates left or whatever it is now.
[00:50:09] Speaker B: And that's my point. You don't care as much as you say you do, or else you'd be over there tailgating. Even in the weather, even with this team, you'd be over there tailgating if you really cared that the Muni lot wasn't going to be there anymore.
[00:50:20] Speaker A: Well, and that's the thing, right? It wasn't like it was snowing today. It was just windy and rainy.
[00:50:24] Speaker B: That's a whole other topic. But relevant to this. Same thing as everybody's complaining about the dome and going to a dome. We're not going to have the elements. The elements wanted to won us another game today. Blah, blah, blah. Okay. Did you see how many fans were in that stadium?
[00:50:38] Speaker A: I.
I actually did because I had family that was there and my. My family that went to the game is from Texas and they just moved here in the last couple of years and so they're still kind of acclimating to Browns culture. And he sent me a picture, actually, and says two minutes left in the first. Surprised how many empty seats there are. Is this weather related or team support based on how the season's going?
[00:51:06] Speaker B: Did you tell him? Yes.
[00:51:08] Speaker A: Well, yeah, it was kind of like.
Yeah, I mean, that's the point. I mean, tickets were being sold for $9 a seat today. So this is.
[00:51:16] Speaker B: Again, this is for all. All of the people out there that are telling me, like, you know, the. We. We need to stay on the lakefront and have the elements, like, okay, you guys really showed it today.
[00:51:29] Speaker A: And today was one of those games, right? Today was.
[00:51:32] Speaker B: It wasn't even that cold either.
[00:51:33] Speaker A: And today. But today was one of those games, right? If you're going to talk about traditionalists and weather and sloppy AFC north football and hard nosed guys, like, this was the game.
[00:51:43] Speaker B: This.
[00:51:44] Speaker A: That was what won us the game. Miami wasn't prepared for the elements. Cleveland was. That was the difference in the game. And the fans wanted no part of it.
[00:51:52] Speaker B: Yeah.
Yeah. So I don't know. I just. It kind of.
It rubbed me the wrong way seeing that there was nobody, really nobody in the muni lot. Even though this is a big topic. Like, people like to talk about this and say how it's a terrible thing and nobody was there. And then I turn on the TV to watch the game when we get home and nobody was there and I'm like, are you kidding me?
So, yeah, that's. That's my final thought. If, if you want to. You want to talk about how great the stadium is and how we shouldn't be moving, you need to show up.
[00:52:20] Speaker A: Yeah. It ain't even cold yet.
[00:52:23] Speaker B: That's what I said.
It was like 68 degrees now.
[00:52:28] Speaker A: It wasn't nice.
[00:52:30] Speaker B: No, it was windy and rainy. But you would get cold by the end of it. Absolutely. But it was still like, not that bad.
[00:52:36] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:52:37] Speaker B: Kenny, what's your final thought?
[00:52:38] Speaker A: You know, there's a lot of guys with the war stories about, oh, I was there in 86 and it was 0 degrees and we sat outside all day without shirts on. There's just none of. There's just so very few of those people left.
[00:52:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:52:49] Speaker A: My final thought is, look, a win is a win is a win and a win is great. You should feel good about being 2 and 5 and not 1 and 6. Or whatever the hell we were headed to.
But don't let this distract you from the fact that Kevin Stefanski is still the worst coach in the NFL. Andrew Barry is the worst GM in the NFL. And just like dating Dylan Gabriel for just a few months too long, and we should have broke it off weeks ago.
The longer this goes on, the harder it is to separate ties and the more we're just going to drag this out and delay any type of future success for this franchise.
Wins are great. They're hard to come by. And they're especially hard to come by when Kevin Stefanski is your head coach and when Andrew Barry is your gm, because they are absolutely in over their head. They are a disaster.
You've lost the stadium. We said, you know, the locker room probably can't be far behind. A win like today, you know, buys you a temporary stay of execution. But make no mistake, it's coming.
They got the jets, the Titans coming up on this schedule.
Very real possibilities. They could lose some of those games and it's going to get ugly. We haven't reached fever pitch just yet. We have. We've been saying it for years now, that we wanted to bring in somebody else and try to actually win football games here in Cleveland. Somebody that upheld some level of accountability and some kind of culture of winning. And Stefanski is just not it. So just enjoy the win, take it for what it is, but don't let it distract you from the fact that, like, change is coming and change is needed and it should have been done already.
That's it. That's all I got.
[00:54:38] Speaker B: Instead of getting fired tomorrow, if they would have lost this game, it'll be like three weeks from now.
[00:54:44] Speaker A: A few more weeks. Yeah.
[00:54:45] Speaker B: And what did I say? And I'm going to stand by this. Just wait till we get to that game. But the jets come to town and they're over. Whatever.
I am absolutely picking the jets because we will lose that game.
[00:54:57] Speaker A: Who's their quarterback now? Because that's the only wild bench. Did Tyrad come in? Does that do their best?
[00:55:04] Speaker B: Yeah, that's the only wild card in this whole thing, but that'll do it for us. Let me remind everybody. Call the burning Sportscast. Have to take hotline.
[00:55:11] Speaker A: Hot take hotline.
[00:55:12] Speaker B: Nobody gets gone. Leave your hot takes on the hot take hotline. Dewey, you got a lot to say in the chat. Why don't you leave us Hot take on the hot take hotline.
[00:55:18] Speaker A: Yeah.
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[00:55:19] Speaker B: James. Frank, what are you doing?
[00:55:22] Speaker A: Yeah, the number's right there. Call it or we'll kick you the Jimmy's.
[00:55:25] Speaker B: Yeah. 3302-2780-8133-0227-8081-3302-2780-8130-22780 81 that's what I mean.
[00:55:34] Speaker A: Do the bit he forgot.
[00:55:36] Speaker B: Yeah, he's never done it. Be sure to check out our gear. Www.thetabitmedia.com backslash shop that'll do it for us, Kenny. What can we expect this week?
[00:55:44] Speaker A: We'll have our normal show.
Well, I guess kind of normal, actually. Red hat Ronnie jams is traveling. So he' a normal show. That will record this week to be released on Thursday where we will Preview the Week 8 game against the Patriots who look pretty good.
We'll have another Brownsbacker interview and all the other things you listen to the Burning River Sportscast for. Namely just hearing the same takes over and over and over and over and over again. Because that's what we do here on the Burning River Sportscast.
[00:56:10] Speaker B: Yeah, it is what we do.
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[00:56:13] Speaker B: Yeah, unofficially.
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[00:56:16] Speaker B: Allegedly.
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[00:56:54] Speaker A: That is that the whole show?
[00:56:55] Speaker B: That's it. That's what I got.
[00:56:57] Speaker A: Browns won.
[00:56:58] Speaker B: Yeah, we win.
[00:57:00] Speaker A: I'm still not sure whether I'm like super happy. Like I'm like indifferent, you know?
[00:57:05] Speaker B: Look, it really does make my week a lot better because if when anybody asks me all week long, I say, well, the Browns won this week.
[00:57:12] Speaker A: So that's is that is true? Yeah, it makes your small talk easier. Yeah, the Steelers lost, but let's not talk about that. We're gonna have a whole discussion about that, Joe.
[00:57:29] Speaker B: Blackouts over 342 yards.
[00:57:31] Speaker A: Let's not. Today was mostly good vibes. Okay.
[00:57:35] Speaker B: Did I just mostly good? Did I reckon. Let's leave it fired up again.
[00:57:39] Speaker A: Now you got me all sweaty. I'm about to take this neck brace off. I gotta. I gotta get out of here. I gotta get out of here. Don't. Don't be a part of the problem. Be the whole damn problem.
[00:57:49] Speaker B: And only you can prevent river fires.
[00:57:55] Speaker A: Rivers.
Good night, Cleveland.
[00:57:58] Speaker B: Good night, Akron.
