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[00:01:11] Speaker B: It'S time time for the Burning River Sportscast.
Thank you Cleveland. That was the refrain that rang out Thursday night at Paycor Stadium after Joe Flacco led an Improbable comeback going 31 of 47 for 342 yards and three touchdowns. Thank you Cleveland. It's a subtle dig, but one that should echo in the hearts and minds of Browns fans every day. This isn't fun anymore. This isn't waiting for next year. There is no someday.
Thank you Cleveland. This is more than an insult. You are the absolute laughing stock of the NFL. You're not a football team anymore. You're a joke. This isn't to degrade the players. There are guys on this roster who you don't want to live in this reality. A reality brought to you by Jimmy Haslam and Andrew Barry and Kevin Stefanski. This Ivy League analytics Moneyball bullshit is over. It's a failure on every front and will serve as a cautionary tale for decades to come. You have brought shame and embarrassment to this proud city and you owe them their pound of flesh. It's over, Jimmy. Grow up and do something about it.
Thank you Cleveland.
We'll break it all down for you. Next on the Burning River Sportscast.
[00:02:31] Speaker C: Did he play with little coconut spirogidas? Can't pronounce Quinshawn Judkins name. He doesn't know who the players are. What's going on?
[00:02:39] Speaker B: Bring me back that filet o fish. Give me that fish.
We've been wrong about Stefanski this whole time. Genius, genius, genius, genius, genius.
[00:02:49] Speaker A: So you can talk shit to me all day, but at the end of the day you're gonna get your taint waxed, so shut the hell up.
[00:02:54] Speaker D: You're probably going to think I'm crazy, okay?
[00:02:57] Speaker A: We're some arrogant sons of I appreciate that.
[00:03:01] Speaker E: That's actually the first time anybody's ever.
[00:03:02] Speaker B: Said that about tremendous specimen.
And he had his way with me.
A tomato hating politician. Just I've seen enough Samoan Frodo just ain't it like I'm not even.
Welcome into the Burning River Sportscast, presented by the fine folks at Tappin Media. I'm Kenny Thunder. My partner today is virtual. A lot like his love life. He's red hot. Ronnie jams on the board today. Well, actually on the main desk. He's got more crack in his back than Charlie Sheen on a bender. He's the big bone man.
[00:03:43] Speaker A: Bone.
[00:03:44] Speaker B: What's most useful when it's long and hard?
[00:03:48] Speaker E: Kenny.
[00:03:51] Speaker B: He went there. I was going with an education, but Bones mind's in the gutter.
[00:03:56] Speaker E: Night.
[00:03:56] Speaker B: That's good. Back to red Hot.
[00:03:58] Speaker E: I shouldn't put these things on the Internet.
[00:04:02] Speaker B: I can.
No one will know what you said. Where can our listeners find the dopest dope they ever heard on a podcast? The number one ranked football podcast and all the good pods, as well as the unofficial podcast of Cleveland Browns backers everywhere.
[00:04:16] Speaker A: And the official podcast of some Cleveland Browns backers somewhere.
[00:04:19] Speaker B: Somewhere.
[00:04:21] Speaker A: Bone. I'd never thought that I would have heard that out of you and Kenny. I, I, I could be wrong, but didn't we win this week? What the hell was that Open?
[00:04:30] Speaker B: We did, but I wrote it after the Thursday night game when the fans were chanting thank you, Cleveland. And I was really pissed off at the time.
[00:04:36] Speaker A: Fair enough. So before we get there, I guess I'll let everybody know we did win this week.
[00:04:39] Speaker B: It's not like the win matters anyway. You're two and five and you're going nowhere.
[00:04:42] Speaker A: That's fair. I digress. You can find our podcast wherever you get your podcast. I'm talking Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Amazon Music, YouTube Music, Pandora, iHeartRadio podcast, Castro Good Pods. We're a number one ranked football podcast. And so many more.
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[00:05:29] Speaker B: More.
[00:05:29] Speaker A: More messages from a game. Yeah, we did win. You wouldn't know it by the open of the show, but we did win.
More messages from macho fan and Brownster, not division. Roundup at King of the north with John Hughes.
Kenny. Speaking of John Hughes, you're not wearing your neck brace.
[00:05:44] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I took it off.
[00:05:47] Speaker A: You couldn't breathe?
[00:05:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:05:49] Speaker A: You should probably put it back on. Doctor's orders.
An interview with another Brownsbackers chapter, the Seacoast Brownsbackers. And of course, the week eight preview for the game against the Patriots. I've told a couple of jokes these last few weeks. Nobody laughed last week, so I'm not going to tell anymore. Yeah. So let's get things started by. I don't even know what I'm saying right now. Let's get things started with the bring.
[00:06:11] Speaker B: Of a news story of the week.
Foreign.
[00:06:24] Speaker A: So this week's Burning river news story of the week, University of Hawaii is going to start streaming upcoming games in Japan. Why don't you tell us about this, Kenny?
[00:06:35] Speaker B: Yeah, apparently Hawaii.
Popular, popular team over there in. In Tokyo. Hawaii's place kicker, Kensei Matsuzawa, a native of Tokyo, nicknamed Tokyo Toe, is having a stellar season. He is already 19 of 19 on attempts this year.
Interesting. The Tokyo Toe learned to kick watching YouTube videos. Of course, he didn't kick a football like every great does until he was 20.
And he actually transferred to Hawaii after playing at Hocking College here in Ohio.
[00:07:13] Speaker A: That's pretty good.
[00:07:14] Speaker B: Yeah.
Hawaii flavor with a hometown tie. Dylan would be proud.
[00:07:21] Speaker A: Any connection to Hawaii? 5, 9.
[00:07:26] Speaker B: The state of Hawaii is the connection.
[00:07:27] Speaker E: Did he play with little Coconut?
[00:07:30] Speaker B: I don't think so.
Maybe in Pop Warner.
[00:07:37] Speaker A: Little Lava lamp would be really upset that we're having this conversation right now.
What'd you call him yesterday? Had one more for him yesterday.
[00:07:47] Speaker B: I don't know. He's a short king. It is what it is.
[00:07:50] Speaker A: You and him have that in common.
[00:07:53] Speaker B: I'm like the same height as you.
[00:07:56] Speaker A: You're not.
[00:07:56] Speaker B: You're.
[00:07:57] Speaker A: You're like a full 2 inches shorter than me.
[00:07:59] Speaker B: Get real. I'm a little rounder than you. I'm not 2 inches shorter than you.
[00:08:03] Speaker A: All right, listen, listen. Anybody listen to the Burning River Sportscast? When I'm back in the studio next week, we're going to stand right there in front of the camera and I'm going to prove to everybody that he's a short little piece of.
[00:08:12] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, we'll see about that.
You're not going to grow two inches this week. So I'm. I'm here for it.
[00:08:18] Speaker A: Yeah, that's fine. You're going to be so sad when everybody knows that you're. You're five foot six.
[00:08:23] Speaker B: You wish you were five ten.
[00:08:26] Speaker A: I am five ten. You're five eight.
Anyways, one more thing. Before we get to the Browns, let me remind everybody to call the burning.
Why don't we just start fighting with.
[00:08:39] Speaker B: Because I hate you.
[00:08:41] Speaker A: Let me remind everybody to call the burger sports cast. Hot take. Hot take.
[00:08:45] Speaker E: Hot take, Hot.
[00:08:47] Speaker A: Don't forget to call. Leave your hot takes on the hot take hotline.
We got some hot takes. I think probably Kenny, don't we.
[00:08:52] Speaker B: I'm not even gonna play in for you. I hate you so much.
I hope you can't even hear him.
[00:08:58] Speaker A: I'm glad we're already here.
[00:08:59] Speaker B: We're already.
[00:08:59] Speaker A: I'm of however many miles away and we just hate each other and start yelling at each other.
[00:09:05] Speaker B: Having technical difficulty on the hot take hotline at the moment.
[00:09:08] Speaker A: Is that why I'm st.
Did you forget how to work it?
[00:09:14] Speaker B: Oh, it's just, you know, Amazon has been down all day and it's just really been a problem.
[00:09:19] Speaker A: We almost didn't get to record this episode because of that.
[00:09:22] Speaker B: All right, here comes a hot take coming at you.
[00:09:24] Speaker C: Hey, you already know who it is. Browns back to North Jersey. Today was a great day.
Not only did the Browns win today, but we walked in the Alzheimer's walk this morning in honor of my dad, in honor of Marty Schottenheimer, in honor of all other friends.
We raised $6,500 for the Alzheimer's walk, so took that with the Browns win and today was a great day.
I have nothing really to complain about other than the weather in Cleveland, but really beautiful day here in North Jersey.
We had 22 people there today watching the game.
Ronnie Hickman's cousin was there, and Ronnie Hickman had an interception. So that was awesome.
One of the three interceptions on the day.
While we're talking about number three, Quinshawn Junkins had three touchdowns today. So do you like quarterback?
I really have nothing to complain about today, so it was a good day, boys.
Anybody else have anything to add?
Maybe Quintean and quarterback? No. Would you knock it off, dude?
That's it, man. Yeah, we won.
And K Dog's in South Carolina, so he's been in South Carolina for 22 years in a row and the Browns have won.
[00:10:58] Speaker D: So maybe.
[00:10:59] Speaker C: Maybe should stay in South Carolina.
That's it. Have a great week. Boys, See ya.
[00:11:06] Speaker A: All right. Well, first of all, we need to do some more losing because I don't like when they're so calm.
[00:11:10] Speaker B: Angry. Bobby wasn't angry.
[00:11:12] Speaker A: Yeah, it didn't even make sense.
[00:11:15] Speaker B: A very subdued version.
[00:11:17] Speaker A: Oh, I'm pretty happy today. I don't really have anything.
[00:11:20] Speaker B: Jersey Browns backers.
[00:11:21] Speaker A: Yeah, no, first of all, great on you guys. $6,500 for the fight against Alzheimer's. Awesome.
So congratulations there.
You know, it's great all the charity work that the brownsbackers are doing, so the fact that our friends are reaching out on the hot take hotline, and we roast them every week, we don't want to lose sight of the fact that they're also doing great things week in and week out, so. Awesome. There's.
[00:11:47] Speaker B: I can't see a whole lot right now because I can't turn my neck real fast, so it's easy to lose sight.
[00:11:52] Speaker A: Well, yeah. Yeah.
We'll talk about your neck brace again here in a minute.
And then.
Yeah, I mean, the weather was bad, so. You're not wrong there, Bobby.
That's true.
[00:12:05] Speaker B: I like the idea of Quinch on a quarterback. I think that that's an improvement over where we're at.
[00:12:10] Speaker E: Yeah, a little.
[00:12:13] Speaker A: I do like the Wildcat. I want to get Bones take on this because Kenny brought it up on the show, the recap show Bone, and I was just curious what you thought he said. Isn't it good that the number two guy for the Browns front office, for their staff, on their draft board was Dylan Gabriel, right behind Cam Ward? They drafted him. They got their guy. He's the franchise quarterback, and they like him so much that they don't even play him in the red zone.
[00:12:42] Speaker E: I don't know. I guess it's.
[00:12:44] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:12:44] Speaker E: It's just gimmicky. I guess it worked, but Quinn Shine almost fumbled the snacks, so.
[00:12:49] Speaker A: But he didn't.
[00:12:49] Speaker E: He scored, you know, but. Yeah. I don't know.
It just seemed like, I guess, a different look. It wasn't the most extravagant trick play Kevin's ever put out there, so I. I'm. I'm happy it wasn't a reverse.
[00:13:02] Speaker A: Well, there we go. Yeah.
[00:13:03] Speaker B: I like Bone on the main desk. He should be here more often.
[00:13:09] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, it was just interesting, the fact that the Quinn Sean's in there in the red zone when your. Your guy should be the guy, especially when you're trying to get him, like, easy touchdowns and some confidence and whatever else, but we ain't want it.
[00:13:21] Speaker B: What was really interesting. Was it wasn't just once?
[00:13:26] Speaker A: No.
[00:13:27] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:13:27] Speaker B: You know, once is like, okay, it's a true gimmick. Gadget. Whatever.
The second time, it's like, all right, like, how much confidence do you not have in this guy that you don't even want? And. And what we talked about on the recap show was also the fact that not only did they run wildcat, usually in the Wildcat, you still leave your quarterback on the field for even the illusion that he might somehow be involved in the play. He was on the sideline altogether. They just said, we don't even need you out there. No one would believe we're gonna throw you the ball anyway.
[00:14:00] Speaker A: Why would we consider leaving him out there?
They think he's gonna go up for a jump ball.
[00:14:05] Speaker B: We know that you can't catch it, and we know that you're not gonna throw it because he could be part.
[00:14:10] Speaker E: Of that double reverse where they. He ends up throwing it back to Judkins. You know.
[00:14:15] Speaker A: You missed my joke in there. Him going for a jump box.
[00:14:18] Speaker B: You should.
[00:14:18] Speaker A: 9.
[00:14:18] Speaker B: You should probably stop telling jokes. I don't know how many times. I don't know how many ways to not laugh at your jokes.
[00:14:24] Speaker A: You want me to break your neck again? Just shut the hell up.
Here's the deal, Bobby. The Browns need to lose because I don't like you being happy.
[00:14:35] Speaker B: We dislike your happiness.
[00:14:37] Speaker A: It's terrible. You're angry, Bobby, for a reason.
[00:14:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:41] Speaker A: What do we got? What do we got next? Kenny.
[00:14:44] Speaker B: And apparently K dog is out of the state, so they like that when he's gone.
[00:14:48] Speaker A: That's a good take.
[00:14:50] Speaker B: That's a good take.
[00:14:51] Speaker A: I also, real quick, before you move on to the next section, I like how Bobby shut everybody else up. He's like, you guys, okay, you're done talking. I'm just. See ya.
[00:15:00] Speaker B: He's running the queue, man.
[00:15:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:15:03] Speaker B: All right, number two.
[00:15:04] Speaker A: Number two.
[00:15:06] Speaker C: Hey, guys. It's monochrom from the Browns backers of North Jersey. That's right. We're coming for you. We're all calling in. Hope you guys are doing well. First of all, you guys do a great job. Love the show. It's awesome. It's amazing. Keep up all that you guys do. I got two gripes today that I want to talk about. The win was amazing. Was thrilled with the win today, but two gripes. Number one, Spiro Dietis and Adam Archuleta talking shit about the Browns and how many times they've had to play. They've had to call our games.
[00:15:34] Speaker A: It's been.
[00:15:35] Speaker C: No, it's been no good shake for us. We've had to listen to those two morons talk about the Browns. Spirogidas can't pronounce Quinshawn Judkins name. He doesn't know who the players are, what's going on?
That's ranked number one gripe. Number two is you guys do a lot of. A lot of shit talking on my buddy, Angry Bobby. And I want to tell you, I want to say right here, I want to tell you right now, Angry Bobby is a great guy. Angry Bobby is the leader of our club. He's the president of our club, and he is a great guy. He is so inclusive. He wants to make sure everyone has a great time. And today, before the Browns beat up on the Miami Dolphins, our club participated in the annual walk to end Alzheimer's. And it's all spearheaded by Angry Bobby. So I know you guys know him as that Persona, Angry Bobby, but to me, he's just Bobby D. He's the man. He's the greatest. And I appreciate your time. Keep up the great work. And we're gonna keep calling the hot take hotline. That's what's gonna happen, guys. Get ready for it. All right, have a good one. Bye.
[00:16:39] Speaker B: Bye.
[00:16:40] Speaker A: At the end of that, I thought he almost went into an.
[00:16:42] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah.
[00:16:46] Speaker A: Listen. Did he leave his name? I didn't catch it. What was his name?
[00:16:49] Speaker B: It kind of got, like, the. The phone got muffled there. I don't know.
[00:16:51] Speaker A: Well, call back next week and leave your name clearer.
[00:16:53] Speaker B: We know. Jersey again.
[00:16:55] Speaker A: Yeah, we know you're from North Jersey. Listen, me roasting Bobby is out of love. I love Bobby.
[00:17:03] Speaker E: It's like a term of endearment.
[00:17:04] Speaker B: I'd love some roast Bobby right now.
Pretty hungry.
[00:17:08] Speaker A: Yeah, no, it is a term of endearment. Like, we do it because we love him and we know Bobby's a great guy and he does a lot of great things. Philanthropist.
[00:17:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:17:16] Speaker A: Yeah. What's the.
The iron man saying? Take away the suit, what do you got? Angry Bobby. Philanthropist.
Like, that's Bobby D. You know, but. Yeah, no, Bobby is a great guy. Anybody who's, you know, had the pleasure to meet him comes away thinking the same thing. So we. We understand. That doesn't mean we're gonna stop roasting him.
[00:17:41] Speaker B: Ronnie, Jim wants to fight him.
[00:17:43] Speaker A: No, I don't want to fight him. He's probably gonna want to fight me, but, you know, that's kind of how my life has gone. I don't. I don't Want to fight anybody?
[00:17:50] Speaker B: All these. All these good vibes because the Browns want. It's making me itchy.
[00:17:54] Speaker A: Yeah, I agree. I don't like that too.
[00:17:57] Speaker D: Nice.
[00:17:58] Speaker A: Yeah. And talk about the commentators, because that'll get you fired up.
[00:18:02] Speaker B: Yeah. Spiro Adidas Archuleta there. I know that was. They even made a big deal about it on the. On the broadcast. They were like, this is our 17th time calling a Brown game. And I was like, every time it gets worse.
Please stop covering the Browns because you're awful.
[00:18:19] Speaker A: Who is requesting this?
[00:18:23] Speaker B: We need to send a letter to CBS or whoever because they're a trash team.
[00:18:27] Speaker E: They literally brought up Deshaun Kaiser, right?
Yeah.
[00:18:32] Speaker B: Yeah, they're the worst.
[00:18:33] Speaker A: For what reason would you need to bring up Deshaun Kaiser?
[00:18:36] Speaker B: You know, I would roast them harder on Deshaun Kaiser, but he's actually in my notes for today's show, so I can't go too far. I guess we didn't even know that. I know.
[00:18:47] Speaker E: I think they were bringing up, like, favorite games they've called. Like, with Browns quarterbacks. They were like, oh, there's a Sean Kaiser game.
[00:18:53] Speaker B: They were basically, like, tongue in cheek, making fun of, like, how many quarterbacks, like, they did. They actually brought it up, but there was a graphic. They were like. There's been 11 different quarterbacks that have played in games in the 17 that we've called. F you, Spiro.
[00:19:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
You know what my favorite games are? The ones that they don't call. Yeah.
[00:19:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
You need to post that reel and tag. Spiro and Archuleta.
[00:19:18] Speaker A: Suck it. Spiro and Archuleta.
[00:19:20] Speaker B: Suck it.
[00:19:21] Speaker A: You got any. You got any more for us, Kenny?
[00:19:23] Speaker B: F them all.
No, that's it. That's just all North Jersey this week.
[00:19:27] Speaker E: Nice.
[00:19:28] Speaker A: Oh, good job, guys.
Apparently, nobody likes to call and complain when we're winning. I don't know. I know it's not just for complaints. You could. You could be happy.
[00:19:36] Speaker B: I. I'm. I'm not surprised that we didn't hear from Cliff out at Mile High this week. I know they had a. A bit of an emotional week. Lost a dear friend out there, so maybe we'll hear from Cliff again.
Thoughts and prayers at the Mile High bone. Bones got the shirt on this week, so represent Mile High, but good job. Hopefully we'll hear from them again soon.
[00:19:55] Speaker A: We put Bone on the main desk, and he delivers.
[00:19:59] Speaker E: Yeah, Mile High, put it on.
[00:20:01] Speaker A: All right, so remember, get those hot takes in. We want hot takes. We want hot takes.
[00:20:06] Speaker B: We want hot takes, hot takes, and hot Cakes, or we'll kick you in the jimmies.
[00:20:11] Speaker A: 3302-2788-1330-2278-0813-302278-08130.
80, 81, 1 call now. Not standing by, but we'll put you on the air.
[00:20:23] Speaker B: On the live show. Ronnie totally forgot how to do the hot take hotline. He was like, I did 8,08.
[00:20:29] Speaker A: I just started saying it again. It was a bad job.
You know what? This show is gonna really devolve fast if you just keep making fun of me. I'm just gonna jump through this screen and whoop your ass.
[00:20:38] Speaker B: If you were taller, I'd be afraid.
[00:20:41] Speaker A: If I was taller, then I'd be even taller than you. That I already am.
[00:20:47] Speaker B: Good. Good one.
[00:20:48] Speaker D: Good comeback.
[00:20:49] Speaker A: Jesus Christ. I'm gonna kill you.
Speaking of hot takes, it's time for dig it with the Macho Fan.
[00:21:01] Speaker B: Yeah. Last weekend was a wet and wild one, but let me tell you how we came out on top with a dominant performance. Yeah, we did. Now we gotta continue on that dominant performance over in the wingland. Oh, Patriots ran high right now, but let me tell you, we ain't gonna lay down like dogs. We're gonna bark like dogs and we're gonna bite like dogs. That's right. Some people say we might even need luck coming into this game, but we don't need luck. Look, there's only preparation, meet, and opportunity. Yeah. We have the opportunity to come in and take over as well as we gotta prepare for you to be scared of the Cleveland Browns. That's right.
Oh, yeah.
[00:21:42] Speaker A: Let's go, brills.
[00:21:50] Speaker B: Drink this and you'll have an orgasm.
[00:21:52] Speaker A: All right, I'm gonna get back in the show now.
[00:21:55] Speaker B: That's. That's part of the show.
[00:21:57] Speaker A: Oh, macho fan. Still macho.
[00:22:02] Speaker B: Macho dude.
[00:22:06] Speaker A: Every time I see these guys get excited for these things, I just think to myself, just Browns fans are dogs.
[00:22:11] Speaker B: Last week, he told us that they going to filet the fish. And then they did.
[00:22:14] Speaker A: And then they did. They filleted the fish.
[00:22:16] Speaker B: Bring me back that filet of fish. Bring me that fish.
Bring me back to give me that.
[00:22:23] Speaker A: Is that the closing song today? I don't know. Speaking of dogs, it's time for the Burning River Sportscast Dog of the week.
[00:22:32] Speaker B: You got to play tough people in the National Football League. You got to be ready, and we got to be the dogs that we are every time we step on there on Sunday and be ready to attack and don't stop until we're in that locker room.
[00:22:46] Speaker A: All right, so on our live shows on Sunday night, we each nominate a dog of the week candidate. From there, we turn it over to all of our socials, and you guys vote on them to make the final decision. This week's nominees. Kenny.
[00:22:58] Speaker B: Tyson Campbell.
[00:23:00] Speaker A: Bone.
[00:23:01] Speaker E: Alex Wright.
[00:23:02] Speaker A: And I nominated Quinn, Sean, Judkins.
After the fan vote that was conducted today on our socials, this week's Burning River Sportscast Dog of the week is Quin, Sean, Jud.
[00:23:16] Speaker B: As if there was any doubt. He scored all the points.
[00:23:20] Speaker A: No, it was.
We started with your nomination last night, Bone. So you. You went Alex. Right. And then Kenny went Tyson Campbell. I considered not nominating Quinch on Judkins just so nobody could vote for him, but then I was like, he's clearly the dog of the week. I probably should. We would probably lose credibility as a show if we didn't even nominate him. So.
Yeah. 25 carries, 84 yards, three touchdowns. Bone, this was your skeleton key to victory. 25 carries.
[00:23:48] Speaker E: Oh, yeah. I just absolutely knew it was coming.
Yeah.
[00:23:51] Speaker B: What's funnier? What's even funnier than you guys all laughed at me?
[00:23:55] Speaker E: And I was like, wait, are you laughing at me or laughing at Kevin Stefanski?
[00:23:59] Speaker A: There's a little of both.
[00:24:00] Speaker B: A little.
[00:24:00] Speaker A: It was Kevin Stefanski for never giving 25 carries, and it was a little bit you for thinking he would.
[00:24:05] Speaker E: Sure, yeah. I didn't think. I didn't think he would. I will. I will say I didn't think he would, but it was my key to victory.
[00:24:11] Speaker A: Yeah, it was a little bit me.
[00:24:13] Speaker E: If they wanted to win, they had to do it.
[00:24:14] Speaker A: Yeah, it was a little. It was worth mentioning again today, though, because he was the first Browns running back since Peyton Hill is 2012 to get 25 carries. And I bring that up just to bring this up again. Kevin Stefanski never gave Nick Chubb 25 carries in a game throughout his entire prime against.
[00:24:29] Speaker E: Yeah. And then after I said it, you guys gave me all those stats, I was like, oh, that was dumb.
[00:24:33] Speaker B: Like, we need to bring Nuremberg back and set Kevin Stefanski down.
[00:24:37] Speaker A: Yeah, it was dumb, Bone. But, you know, look what happened. Kevin listened to you, and we won. I think he was watching the show.
[00:24:43] Speaker E: Yeah. Big fan of the Bone Man.
[00:24:44] Speaker B: I'm holding my phone right now because actually, it was funny because that was Bone Man's skeleton key to victory. And on the who's game day ready keys to victory. On the actual broadcast, it was Cleveland Browns need to commit to the run, minimum 30 rush attempts. And I laughed out loud again.
[00:25:05] Speaker A: How many did they get on the day? How many? How many?
[00:25:06] Speaker B: It was probably around 30 because Quinton had 25 himself.
[00:25:09] Speaker A: So I didn't know how many they gave outside of that.
[00:25:11] Speaker B: But either way, Dylan Sampson had a couple and Jerome Ford carried the ball at least once.
[00:25:15] Speaker E: They threw forward in there at like inopportune times. You're just like, why is he in the game?
[00:25:19] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:20] Speaker A: The most ridiculous times. Because. Because. Just.
[00:25:23] Speaker B: Because he just never needs to be in the game ever again.
[00:25:25] Speaker E: Be there.
[00:25:26] Speaker A: Yeah. But anyways, Kenny, let's give something away.
Okay, it's time to give away this autograph to Miles Garrett game day poster. Hold that up. You can't. You got a broken neck.
[00:25:37] Speaker E: I think I can reach it.
[00:25:39] Speaker A: Be careful. Don't knock any of those cords over.
[00:25:42] Speaker B: Bone. Doesn't have a broken neck like I do. So.
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[00:26:07] Speaker B: It, they frame it.
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[00:26:37] Speaker B: As a quick fact check, Jerome Ford had one carrier for zero yards. Dylan Sampson had three carries for eight on top of 25. So they were at 29 as a part of the game plan. But Dylan Gabriel also ran the ball four times, so they were over 30 for the day.
[00:26:52] Speaker A: They did it.
[00:26:54] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:26:54] Speaker A: Anyways, for, for, for the giveaway, enter now and good luck.
In other Brown, the Browns are now 20 in their alpha dog uniforms. Is it time to make the switch? We just get rid of the orange helmets. We're going all brown from here on out.
[00:27:15] Speaker B: I didn't know this was in the notes, but I was actually thinking this, this. That was what went through my head all day yesterday was it's got to be the jerseys.
There's no other Explanation. Right.
[00:27:25] Speaker A: If we just wear these all the time, we'll never lose again.
[00:27:27] Speaker B: That's right. They're undefeated in the Alpha Dog jerseys, so. And it doesn't even matter who the quarterback is. We just win.
[00:27:34] Speaker A: Yeah, that's true.
[00:27:37] Speaker B: Maybe that's the point of Kevin Stefanski's offense, is it?
[00:27:40] Speaker E: It.
[00:27:40] Speaker B: It's quarterback agnostic. It literally doesn't matter. You don't have to have a good one, don't have to have a bad one. You just don't need one. Quinn Johnson's a quarterback. It literally doesn't matter who the quarterback is.
[00:27:51] Speaker A: They'll throw it 58 times for 200 yards.
[00:27:56] Speaker B: When you think about it, the Cleveland Browns haven't been able to solve the quarterback question for 26 years.
Kevin Stevanski, again, out thinks everyone. We don't even need a quarterback in this offense. It's genius.
[00:28:10] Speaker A: He just eliminates the question altogether.
[00:28:12] Speaker B: We've been wrong about Stefanski this whole time. Genius, genius, genius, genius.
[00:28:24] Speaker A: I don't think you're going here in this segment.
Yeah, it looks good on my end. It's all going together.
I didn't think we were going anywhere near calling Kevin Stefanic a genius today, but here we are.
[00:28:41] Speaker B: Brilliant.
[00:28:42] Speaker A: Brilliant. Anyways, Joel Batonio started his 168th game for the Browns. I know we mentioned this on our show, our recap show, but worth another mention here, because it's the most of any Browns player since 1999, so that includes Joe Thomas, which is remarkable.
[00:29:01] Speaker B: Pretty substantial work you put in there, Joel.
[00:29:05] Speaker A: Good job, buddy.
[00:29:05] Speaker B: Well done.
[00:29:07] Speaker A: And then once again, I know this was in our other show, but I just have to bring it up again because it's kind of blown up. People are starting to comment on it and just kind of just say what they think DeSean's trying to do, but DeSean Watson apparently favorited several videos on TikTok trashing Kevin Stefanski's offense. And it included one of our videos.
[00:29:29] Speaker B: Ours.
[00:29:31] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what I said, but it included one of ours, and I'm trying to pull it up right now. Give me just a second.
[00:29:44] Speaker B: This is a good podcast, guys.
[00:29:45] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:29:51] Speaker B: I mean, what are you trying to do here? You're trying to overlay the video? I mean, we're not even able to hear it. You can't see or hear anything. You're in a hotel room a thousand miles away.
The fact that there was 52 passes thrown today and that amounted a whole, you know, 200 yards on 55% completions, like, that's. That's not a mistake. It's not an aberration. That is Kevin Stefanski's offense. Go back to the.
[00:30:13] Speaker A: So that's what DeSean Watson was liking. He was. He was liking the fact that. Kind of like we just talked about, actually, Kenny, the fact that no matter who you put in at quarterback, the results are always the same.
[00:30:26] Speaker B: Hey, look, I. I'm. I'm. I'm here for it. Look, I wel everyone to listen to the show, DeSean Watson included. If he wants to be on the show, if he wants to call in and. And, you know, give his side of the story, I'm. I'm all ears. Let's hear it.
[00:30:42] Speaker A: He's just gonna call into the show. Hey, guys, I just wanted to let you know I really liked your video about Kevin Spacey's offense being.
[00:30:49] Speaker B: I mean, I'm for it. Let's all. Let's do it. Let's. Let's bring the Sean on. It'd be a good conversation.
[00:30:54] Speaker A: Something tells me even an idiot like him is going to decline that.
[00:30:59] Speaker B: Well, that's not nice. You weren't gonna call him an idiot.
[00:31:02] Speaker E: That might be the least of anything.
[00:31:05] Speaker B: The least offensive thing anyone's ever called.
[00:31:07] Speaker E: Him on this show.
[00:31:11] Speaker A: I mean, there's a lot of masseuses that would call him worse.
[00:31:17] Speaker B: Yeah, well, look here, again, let's not lose sight of the enemy here. The real enemy, me, Kevin Stefanik. Kevin Stefanski. And. And I think people like this is starting to gain traction. I don't think we're the only ones now that are saying, you know, not that we owe desean an apology, but, you know, maybe. Maybe there's some level of like, hey, this wasn't all his fault because he.
[00:31:41] Speaker E: Was once pretty good.
[00:31:42] Speaker B: He was once pretty good again to Cleveland, and he sucked.
[00:31:44] Speaker A: So he's one of those very.
[00:31:46] Speaker B: That is the doing of Kevin Stefanski and not the doing of Deshaun Watson.
[00:31:50] Speaker A: Yeah, he's part of a very elite group of passers that have thrown for 5,000 yards in a season.
[00:31:54] Speaker B: So, I mean, the tail of the tape is getting real, right? Joe Flacco, outside of Kevin Stefanski's offense, good quarterback. Baker Mayfield, outside of Kevin Stefanski's offense, good quarterback. John Watson. But when he wasn't with Kevin Stefanski was a good quarterback. Like, there's. There's more evidence for that being the case than Kevin Stefanski is an offensive genius.
Unless the point, again, is that, no, the quarterback doesn't matter at all, and you just can run game plans without a Quarterback.
[00:32:23] Speaker A: Even being we've completely neutralized the quarterback position.
[00:32:28] Speaker E: Insert quarterback here. Instant success.
[00:32:34] Speaker B: Doesn't matter.
[00:32:35] Speaker A: Literally, doesn't matter. Who's your quarterback? Don't care.
[00:32:38] Speaker B: Bones. Been on the main desk for 30 minutes.
[00:32:41] Speaker E: He's in my system.
[00:32:42] Speaker B: He's already telling better jokes than Ronnie Jim's ever had.
[00:32:44] Speaker A: That's it. I'm done with this.
[00:32:48] Speaker E: That struck a nerve.
[00:32:52] Speaker A: Anyways, next story here. Tony Rizzo reported this week that sources have confirmed to him that no matter what, Shador Sanders will start the last four games of the season. So what do you guys think about this?
[00:33:05] Speaker E: I haven't heard this before.
It's kind of bizarre.
I like it.
[00:33:11] Speaker B: It's. I mean, it's too little, too late. I mean, I'd like to see Shador before the whole season is. Is over.
You know, this schedule gets a little softer here.
Look, I know the jury's still out on Dylan Gabriel. He could be.
Just from a probability standpoint, there's a possibility he could be a good quarterback someday.
I've kind of seen enough. I'm ready to see Shador.
So I hope for the last four weeks of the season.
[00:33:42] Speaker A: And that was kind of where I was going with the whole thing is I was just disappointed. I was like, the last four. That's it.
And that's all we get is.
[00:33:49] Speaker B: Is in. And the thing is, is it's. It's almost, you know, reminiscent then of the preseason, right, where you saw Shador early on in the first game and things went really well. And then everybody likes to point to the Rams game where he was playing with an offensive line that was cut literally the day after the game, and he looked like. Like.
And so that's the Browns that you're going to get at the end of the season in the month of December when there's snow on the ground, it's 25 degrees, and nobody wants to be there. And they've already planned their vacations for the off season. Like, that's the unit you're going to stick your door out with and now expect to get anything meaningful in terms of feedback for what you're going to do with him in the offseason and going into next year.
It's a recipe for failure, like everything else the Browns have ever done.
It's what we do. It's what we do. We set players up for failure. We're going to put them in the worst situation possible, and when they don't overcome the odds, we're going to go, well, guess we got to move on in the off season, let's find a real quarterback.
[00:34:47] Speaker A: Do you think they get together and they're just like, guys, what's the worst.
[00:34:51] Speaker B: Plan we can think of?
[00:34:53] Speaker A: I've got a new way to set a. Set a player up for failure this week.
You want to hear it?
[00:35:01] Speaker B: I mean, it's more logical to assume that than to assume that they're trying.
[00:35:09] Speaker A: That's just. That's a sad reality we live in. It just truly is.
But. Yeah. So that's it. For other Browns news. Let's get into the division roundup.
So for division roundup, we're going to start with Cincinnati. Cincinnati beat Pittsburgh on Thursday Night Football 33 to 31. And I know you talked about a little bit already, Kenny, but here's Joe Flacco stat line in that 31 of 47 for 342 yards, three touchdowns, and no interceptions.
So what this all comes down to is Cleveland's opening day starter now has a win against an AFC opponent, AFC north opponent, but the Browns do not.
So in one game, he.
[00:35:59] Speaker B: He surpassed all the statistics he amassed with the Browns as a starter this year.
[00:36:04] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And. And I'. Even. I'm not even saying that. Like, you know, we were right there. Like, I wanted them to move on from Joe Flacco because with the situation in Cleveland, you have to. There's. There's other things that are important right now, and we don't need to be playing Joe Flacco. What I'm pissed off about is that you traded him to Cincinnati.
[00:36:24] Speaker B: What I'm pissed off about is that you couldn't.
You couldn't get the same type of activity out of him.
[00:36:30] Speaker A: Well, there's that.
Yeah, I mean, they're absolutely. There's that, too.
[00:36:34] Speaker B: But we were almost of the belief that Father Time had taken its toll and Joe was just finally washed and it was just the end of the road for the guy, and here he comes out just gunslinging again.
[00:36:44] Speaker A: So it's just. Just more proof of what you were just talking about, Kenny, of the. Of Kevin Stefanski being bad.
[00:36:50] Speaker B: Right. 100%.
[00:36:53] Speaker A: Like, in how many games did he play with the Browns? In four games this year, I think that the highest pass total he had was like 212 yards or something like that.
[00:37:03] Speaker B: And he threw two touchdowns to like, six interceptions in that time. So to see him go out on Thursday night and now again with what, like four practices under his belt with the Bangles, just over a week.
[00:37:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:37:16] Speaker B: You know, for a guy to be able to pick up the offense Manage the game, lead a comeback and not throw any picks. Turn the ball over. Like, I don't like.
What is the common denominator again? What is the common denominator in all these quarterbacks when they play poorly?
It's the quarterback whisperer himself.
And what's more damning is the Browns had all off season, all training camp, all vote A's, all mini camp, all of practice leading up to the NFL season.
And that's what you got out of Joe Flacco. The Bengals have had him for two weeks and he looks like a top quarterback in the NFL, at least in the division.
[00:37:58] Speaker A: Yeah, I hate going over this stuff over and over again because it just makes me hate Stefanik more.
[00:38:06] Speaker B: And, and, and let's not forget, Andrew Berry is not blameless here either. Right? I mean, you. You moved up 25 spots or whatever in the draft to. To make that move for. For what you're going to give a team in the division another way to beat you for. For 25 extra 25 picks sooner.
[00:38:24] Speaker A: Like, what are you doing, buddy?
[00:38:25] Speaker B: I mean, it goes back to the Mike Tomlin quote. Andrew Barry must be a lot smarter than me. Like, yeah, he must busy a lot smarter than all of us because no one understands what's going on. And at the end of the game, the fans in the stands at Baker Stadium knew what was going on. Thank you, Cleveland.
[00:38:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:41] Speaker B: So stupid. You gave us a quarterback to keep us afloat for however long until Joe Burrow comes back. We're now going to be winning games while you're going to continue to lose them. Them.
[00:38:52] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:52] Speaker B: Despite the win this week.
[00:38:53] Speaker A: Yeah. I thought for sure we'd be battling Cincinnati for the bottom of the division, but I'm pretty sure we're gonna easily take that crowd.
[00:39:01] Speaker B: I mean, unless Lamar Jackson doesn't come back and Baltimore just continues to lose. But that's an aberration.
[00:39:08] Speaker A: But anyways, we were all wrong in that game. We all picked Pittsburgh. I think Mike Tomlin was a little bit angry too, because like, God damn it, now I gotta face Joe flacco again.
[00:39:15] Speaker D: Oh, 100%.
[00:39:16] Speaker E: He definitely was.
[00:39:19] Speaker A: But anyways, next up, Cleveland beat the dolphins 31 to 6. Nobody saw this coming. We were all wrong.
[00:39:26] Speaker B: It was the great equalizer, right? I mean, it was.
[00:39:28] Speaker A: Oh, the weather outside is weather.
[00:39:30] Speaker B: Weather.
[00:39:31] Speaker E: Kevin ran the ball. I mean, nobody saw that.
[00:39:33] Speaker B: Kevin ran the ball.
[00:39:36] Speaker A: It'll never happen again, he promises.
[00:39:40] Speaker B: I mean, everything about that game was just. We've never seen that before.
[00:39:44] Speaker A: Well, that's why, like we talked about it. And that, you know, you hate to, you know, downplay a win. Like, it's awesome that we won, and I'm going to enjoy it this week, but at the same time, I just. All I come back to is, even when I'm trying to enjoy the win is I'm like, that wasn't the real Browns. That's not. That's not this year's team. This team is not good. So.
[00:40:03] Speaker B: Right.
[00:40:05] Speaker A: But Anyways, for the AFC north standings are as follows. Through Week 7, Pittsburgh is on top of 4 and 2, Cincinnati's at 3 and 4, Cleveland at 2 and 5, and Baltimore in last place all by themselves at 1 and 5.
Whoever thought that Baltimore would be in last place after week seven probably won a lot of money.
[00:40:27] Speaker B: I mean, the crazy thing is, is if Lamar does come back healthy, like, Baltimore could go on a run and still win this division.
[00:40:35] Speaker A: I mean, I would expect them to.
I would. I would actually, if. If he came back this week or next. In the next two weeks. Either this week or next week. I expect them to win the division.
[00:40:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:40:46] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:40:46] Speaker B: Because I have a hard time believing Pittsburgh is going to continue to play as well as they have.
[00:40:49] Speaker A: No, I think. I think the. I think the Cincinnati game was the first step in, like, just coming back down to earth. And they're. They're about a 500 ball club. That's. That's what they are.
[00:40:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:40:58] Speaker A: So current king of the north standings. Bone, you're at 13 and 9. I'm right behind you at 12 and 10. John's at 9 and 13, and Kenny, right where you belong at 8 and 14. So you talk shit to me all day, but at the end of the day, you're gonna get your taint waxed, so shut the hell up.
Now let's take a quick trip around the NFL.
All right, so for our trip around the NFL, we're gonna start with the Jets. They're still 0 and 7.
Haven't got a win. Well, they were 0 and 6. Now they're 0 and 7. They haven't got a win. Still worse than the Browns. Even worse than the Red Ravens, who are 1 in 1 in 5. So the Raven suck, Brown suck, jets suck the most.
[00:41:45] Speaker B: Justin Fields really fell off.
[00:41:47] Speaker A: Like, yeah, they're worse than Miami that we just beat 31 to 6, and that's pretty bad. But, yeah, Justin Fields, you mentioned he fell off. He did get benched this week, so that's the big news.
They're just in a really bad place.
[00:42:00] Speaker B: The sad part is, I feel for Justin Fields. And I'm not ready to write Justin Fields off entirely as a quarterback in this league. I feel. I feel very strongly that he may have some sort of renaissance in some unexpected place. A lot like Geno Smith did in, in Seattle. He's just. I mean, he was in Chicago and now the jets and, and with the Steelers.
[00:42:21] Speaker A: Even with the Steelers, like that team last year wasn't good.
[00:42:24] Speaker B: No. And they were kind of in a weird flux, like period between quarterbacks. You had Russ there, so it just feels like he hasn't. He hasn't been in. In an advantageous position with a coaching staff around him that believed in him, that was putting pieces around him, tailoring an off, I guess you could say. The jets probably have tried, but clearly they are the God damn fire. So I do. I just feel bad for the kid because I think it's tough. I mean, John talks about this a lot. Right. You come from college and come from winning program where you're not used to losing, and then you get to the NFL and all you do is lose. And as a quarterback, he's much more visible than a lot of guys. So he's had it, I think worse than, than most. But.
But I'm. I'm not ready to write him off just yet. I think someday he'll have some success somewhere, hopefully.
[00:43:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
It makes you wonder like, how. How bad that is for like a guy like him, like you said, comes from winning his entire career up to that point. How bad is that for their mental state? She's like, no matter what I do, we can't win.
[00:43:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:43:26] Speaker A: It's not good, but. Yeah. So next up here, Mike Evans is back this week.
Well, he was back and then he got knocked out on the field.
That. That's probably too far. We're probably getting canceled now, so. Thank you.
[00:43:40] Speaker E: He was out.
[00:43:41] Speaker B: Yeah, he took a nap on the field.
[00:43:44] Speaker A: Okay. We're just still going with this. All right.
[00:43:46] Speaker B: I'm not saying it was a good thing. I'm not like celebrating it. I'm just saying it was pretty ugly. It took a nap.
[00:43:51] Speaker A: Yeah, it was what I was gonna say before he, before he. It's not a dirt nap. Those are two different things.
What I was gonna say before he ended up leaving this game with a possibly severe concussion is he needed to average 78 yards per game the rest of the season to get a thousand yards. Can he do it? Well, now it's going to be somewhere in the range of like 95 yards a game when he comes back. So can he do It.
[00:44:19] Speaker E: Yeah, definitely increase. I don't know. I don't know if he had a catch.
[00:44:23] Speaker B: He caught that ball before he got knocked out, and then he dropped it because he got knocked out.
[00:44:27] Speaker E: There's a couple of sidelines, too, that he dropped, but, yeah, whatever.
[00:44:29] Speaker A: But I'm going to move on. Before Kenny gets everybody in trouble.
Kayla Williams showed up to a restaurant with three models. You like this kid Kenny?
[00:44:38] Speaker B: Bad guy's living the life. I mean, he got out of his Escalade limo or whatever it was, and just out come the women.
[00:44:45] Speaker A: You notice I threw this to you because I was like, who's the biggest degenerate on our show? It's Kenny.
[00:44:51] Speaker B: I'm just saying I'm proud of the guy. Right. You know, you go from painting your fingernails in college to dating three IG models. Like, good for you.
[00:44:58] Speaker E: He's just waning it, trying to make it look like he's as normal as possible.
[00:45:03] Speaker A: Is that what it is?
Kenny was.
[00:45:06] Speaker E: I don't know. I'm just saying.
[00:45:07] Speaker A: A vigilante.
No way.
[00:45:10] Speaker B: He's crime at night, man.
[00:45:15] Speaker A: Kenny, if you became. This is. Will. Will never happen. Unless you were, like, a guard or something. If you became a football, like a professional football player overnight.
I could see you doing this. And, yes, I know you're married, but I can still see, like, I showed up with three Instagram models.
[00:45:31] Speaker B: I'm tall enough to be a quarterback in this league.
[00:45:34] Speaker A: Yeah, that's true.
[00:45:37] Speaker B: I can certainly do it.
[00:45:39] Speaker A: Next up here, Chris Jones of the Cheese Chiefs appeared to be drinking out of a vodka bottle on the bench during their game this past weekend.
This one was interesting. Like, what do you think he was actually drinking? What was that? What was happening there, Kenny?
[00:45:52] Speaker B: I mean, I don't. I don't know, but, I mean, it's got to have been, like, debunked at this point, right? Do we know what exactly was going on?
Just, you're. But you're just drinking out of a glass bottle, sidelines. Why? Why?
[00:46:05] Speaker E: Yeah, he was trying everybody. Or it was literally just vodka and he doesn't care.
[00:46:11] Speaker B: I mean, it looked real. I mean, we're all familiar with, like, Voss water, but Voss has, like, a very specific type of bottle. Like, I don't. I don't know of a water company that makes that bottles their water that way. I mean, I'm sure it was probably water. I'm sure you probably aren't that dumb to take vodka to the sideline of an NFL game, but it was just an odd sighting altogether to see See a player drinking out of what appeared to be like a Tito's vodka bottle?
[00:46:39] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:46:42] Speaker B: They were up by 30, so I guess you can if you want.
[00:46:46] Speaker A: Is she already drunk? Celebrating?
Yeah. Speaking of the Chiefs, Josh Simmons just wanted to bring this up. This story's, uh, just kind of weird and. And concerning, I think is the word.
This is what we know about Josh Simmons so far.
The Chiefs listed him as questionable before the game two weeks ago with illness. He ended up playing in that game this past weekend. Per underdog Patrick Mahomes showed up to the game and noticed that his left tackle wasn't there.
And then shortly after, a report came out that some coaches didn't know where he was either. Earlier in that day, which it could be nothing, but he deleted his Instagram.
The Chiefs then announced that he would miss the game for personal reasons. But then SiriusXM reported that it was for family reasons. But then other reporters said it might not be for family reasons. Andy Reid then came out and said multiple times that he won't comment on the. The situation and doesn't know when Simmons will return. Mahomes said he's praying for Simmons. Reed then said the GM is now handling the matter, which it might tell us that, you know, somebody's gonna be moving or they might have to put him on IR or something like that.
And you know, obviously he's a, he's a rookie offensive lineman for the Chiefs. He's playing really well so far when he's played. First round pick. Yeah. High draft pick.
But like, this whole thing is just weird.
[00:48:19] Speaker B: It's just very odd. Especially in today's day and age where everything lives on social media, to have so much like shrouded mystery.
[00:48:26] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:48:27] Speaker B: And.
And just like no timetable for return.
To your point, like, Andy Reid being very coy about, like the GM is handling everything and we don't know anything. For a guy that is. That started the first five games of the season at left tackle, like, it's just bizarre altogether. So something serious going on. Not exactly sure what.
Guess we'll keep an eye on that to see what goes on. I mean, the guy's only 22. So. So.
[00:48:54] Speaker A: And the fact that nobody is, Is saying, like, obviously these reporters are very good at uncovering things. And the fact that nobody can seem to figure out what exactly is happening, I think is, Is probably not a good thing.
[00:49:05] Speaker B: No. Very, very odd.
[00:49:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:49:07] Speaker B: Speaking of the Chiefs, though, real quick, did you see the Patrick Mahomes hard count?
[00:49:15] Speaker A: Yeah. Where he, where he faked it and he said he Was like this never or the never works or whatever he said. And then he. And then he ran the play and they got the first down.
[00:49:26] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:49:26] Speaker D: Wow.
[00:49:27] Speaker B: He faked the hard count and stood up and just mouthed that like this never effing works.
And then as the clock ran down to about three seconds, he got back under center, called the snap and they got the verse down. Just mastermind.
Mastermind game.
[00:49:44] Speaker E: Now that's a trick play.
[00:49:45] Speaker A: Yeah. Stefanic, take notes. That's how you outsmart someone.
[00:49:50] Speaker B: Leave it to Patrick.
[00:49:52] Speaker A: I hate Stefanik so bad.
I just get sad every time I think about it.
Anyways, finally in our around the NFL segment, Doug Martin has passed away at the age of 36.
[00:50:09] Speaker B: Hamster.
[00:50:10] Speaker A: Yeah, this was. This is kind of crazy. I mean obviously it's always crazy when a young player dies, but like it just seems like yesterday that he was, was, you know, the top running back in fantasy. Like we all knew exactly who he was and, and you know, I think bone, it might have been me and you and in a one of our fantasy leagues that were kind of like at the top of the draft right next to each other, we were like back and forth on like who was going to take this guy. So yeah, he's just crazy.
[00:50:36] Speaker E: Fun player to watch.
[00:50:38] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean he was a fixture and certainly fancy football for a couple of years there where it's like you needed that guy on your roster, you know. Fun player to watch.
This is another one that seems to be getting odd as reports need to surface now. I mean, at first it was just kind of shocking news that he had passed and now there's reports that he passed in police custody, that there was a potential breakin. We're not sure if. If he broke in and, and what exactly happened or someone broke.
[00:51:09] Speaker A: So last thing I saw it said that, that there was a reported break in and a report, a simultaneous reported medical emergency from the same home.
When police got there, they tried to take, you know, they tried to take him out of the house or whatever and it's unclear if like he was still having a medical emergency or what was going on. He resisted a little bit. They were able to at least get him out of the home. It doesn't sound like there was. Was not yet anyways. You know, obviously we don't know anything but it sounds like it wasn't something that happened, you know, in taking him into custody or anything like that. It sounds like he was having a medical emergency and then kind of things progressed as he was in custody. So very sad nonetheless. Like Whatever the circumstances are. Just A young guy, 36, is. Is. Is way too young to be going, so.
[00:52:03] Speaker B: Yeah. And, and oddly enough too, just the fact that this is the third Buccaneers player in very recent memory, Vincent Jackson, Mike Williams, all in the last couple of years.
Just very odd. I mean, all those guys kind of all played together there.
[00:52:22] Speaker A: I think you found a picture of all three of them.
[00:52:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:52:25] Speaker A: Like celebrating.
[00:52:26] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, it wasn't that long ago they were all. They were all together, so just very strange, Very, very sad. I mean, all these guys were very young, so who knows?
I'm sure we'll get more details here as days go by. But bizarre, sad story.
[00:52:41] Speaker A: Rest in peace to all those guys.
Kenny, I think it's time for another interview in our Browns backers interview series.
[00:52:49] Speaker B: All right, let's talk to him.
How much money do you make a year before taxes?
I'm actually not comfortable answering that. Come on, we're doing the interview now, not you.
[00:53:06] Speaker A: All right, so for this brownsbackers interview, please help me welcome, hailing from Rusty Hammer in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, the president of the Seacoast Brownsbackers, Bill.
[00:53:19] Speaker D: Great. How you doing?
[00:53:20] Speaker A: Good, good, good. So, Bill, tell us a little bit about your chapter.
[00:53:25] Speaker D: Our chapter is Based in Portsmouth, N.H. downtown Portsmouth, Rusty Amity upstairs there's.
We got about. About 70 official members. We got about 12 to 15 really good hardcores that we show up every week. We're there no matter what. If it was Owen, 16, 16, 0.
We're always there. So we have the total hardcore package down there in Portsmouth and we have a lot of people that come in from, you know, they're on the visiting, on vacation and whatnot. So they come on and they're coming in for vacation. They stop up, they have a good time for a game, game or two. We are there for a couple weeks. They'll stop for a couple weeks. So it's, it's. We got a real good, solid, solid group, man. Real good group.
[00:54:09] Speaker A: Nice. Now, you guys, I know pretty much all the brown smackers are, but you guys involved in any sort of charity work or community service?
[00:54:16] Speaker D: Yeah, every year we give to the nhspca, which is the New Hampshire.
You know, it's. It's the uh, basically the dog pound down there. We give. We always have a. Every year we have a dog food drive and the last few years we got away and we just started giving them cash for it because we, it was just.
[00:54:37] Speaker E: We.
[00:54:37] Speaker D: We had so much dog food that I couldn't take it all in my freaking Truck. I mean, it was incredible. We had, like, 13, 1400 pounds. They were, like, blown away because we had so much stuff. It was just.
It's crazy, man. We had real good. We got a lot of good people here, too. It's really solid people.
[00:54:54] Speaker A: Good problem to have.
Yeah.
[00:54:56] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, Real good.
[00:54:57] Speaker D: Real good problem.
[00:54:58] Speaker A: Now. I know.
Go ahead, Kenny.
[00:55:00] Speaker B: Bill, have you always been out there? Did you grow up in the Cleveland area?
[00:55:03] Speaker D: No, I. I did my first 40 years. I grew up in Cleveland. My mom's still there, my sister. All my family's still there. My. I actually married my. My wife about 15 years ago, but we. She was from out here, so she. She moved to Cleveland, and we did the first four or five years out there, and then she was always. We. We'd vacation back here to see her family. Family. So she. She mentioned, would you come move out here? And I love it out here. It's just amazing out here. So I was like, sure, I would. But I was like, the only problem is, you know, where am I gonna watch the Browns games at, man? I mean. I mean, that was really the. My biggest problem at the time. I'm not even kidding you.
[00:55:39] Speaker B: You laugh at that, but that was the.
[00:55:41] Speaker D: My biggest problem. Hey, where am I gonna watch the Browns games at?
So I ended up. We found a spot down here, and it was just me and one other guy that it.
[00:55:49] Speaker B: We.
[00:55:49] Speaker D: We're where Portsmouth is. This is a shipyard. Naval shipyard. So we got a lot of guys that transfer in and out, and they' six or eight months here working on a ship, and then they ship back off.
But there was one guy down here that started with me. Me and him. They're the only Browns fans in this whole place. And imagine there's like, you know, literally two, 300 Patriot fans down there, and we're like, literally two of us Browns fans down there.
So. And I got a good story about that, you know, later on down the line.
[00:56:18] Speaker B: But.
[00:56:19] Speaker D: But yeah, me and him, pretty much, we got down there, and we're like, you know, we need to find more Browns fans around here. It's just me and him, you know, so we came across. I came across the Facebook post about the Brownsbackers, and at the time, it was. The question was, what states don't have a Brownsbackers chapter?
[00:56:38] Speaker B: And.
[00:56:38] Speaker D: And the answer was, at the time, 2010 or 2011, that New Hampshire was one of the four states that did not have one.
So I was like, hey, man, we should start a chapter here. So I. I messaged the lady from the Browns backers. And she's like, well, believe it or not, I have a lot of people around the area.
So basically, we got all our emails together, whatnot. We got our. Got our stuff together, and we started the club, and it's just been growing ever since. Just. We've got a lot of people come in and out, and a lot of the 70 people we've had in, they come in. Like I said, they do two, three years here at the shipyard, and then they go off to somewhere else in the country, but they always come back. Every time they come back here, they always come back to see us, which is awesome.
[00:57:22] Speaker A: Nice.
[00:57:22] Speaker D: It's amazing how many people come back and, you know, come. Come revisit.
[00:57:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Now, you said. You said you had a story for later on down the line. What's later on down the line? I want to hear the story.
[00:57:32] Speaker D: Oh, yeah, yeah.
[00:57:33] Speaker B: Well, well, well.
[00:57:34] Speaker E: Okay.
[00:57:34] Speaker D: Well, I just want to show you the. It's the mentality between the Cleveland fans and the Patriot fans, okay?
Because I like to give it to my. My buddies a lot, because everyone around here, obviously, you know, the guys I work with, Patriot fans.
So the very first year that I moved to Cleveland, like I said, I was down at this bar of the Page, which has since closed. There was literally 150, 200 Patriot fans, okay? And it was me and this one other guy, Aaron, down there.
And, you know, we were. We were, you know, tipping a few beers and whatnot. And, you know, that was the very. That was the game that Peyton Hillis ran all over him, okay?
[00:58:15] Speaker F: And.
[00:58:15] Speaker D: And by the end of the fourth quarter, we were doing shots. We were. We were really, really happy. And I knew back then that they're not the same kind of crowd as Cleveland fans, because the whole time that we're whooping it up in the middle of this, you know, in the middle of this, you know, we were. We kicked their ass that game, and the whole. And no one stood up and said, hey, you better sit down. You better shut up. You better do that. You know what I mean? Like, I'm thinking to myself, if I was in Cleveland, somebody would have told me to shut up, sit the. Sit the hell down or something. You know what I mean? But nobody ever said a word to me. And the funniest part was at the end there.
[00:58:53] Speaker B: There was a whole.
[00:58:53] Speaker D: There's a little section of jets fans that were there that day, and they. They were laughing because we were whooping it up on the Patriot fans. But at the very end, I looked at them and I was like, hey, don't worry, you're on the schedule next week. Your ass kicking is coming next week. So then the Patriot fans all laughed at me and had a good time. So that was, it was a good time, man.
[00:59:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Browns fans definitely aren't afraid of anybody.
[00:59:17] Speaker E: So.
[00:59:19] Speaker D: Without question. Yeah. And every time I go down like this is the.
It's been four games now since I've moved out here that the Browns have played and I've been to everyone but one down at Gillette. So. And I plan on, I'll be down there on, on Sunday too. So.
[00:59:36] Speaker A: So you'll, you'll be a Gillette. But is there any events or anything planned for a watch party or is your, your whole chapter basically going to be going to the, the game for our chapter.
[00:59:44] Speaker D: Our chapter there is people that are still going to go to our, our, our upstairs at the Rusty Hammer. But, but there's like a bunch of individuals of us, you know, we, we don't have any tickets all grouped together where, you know, two guys here, two guys up in the upper deck, two guys over here. So it's nothing. There's no really, really planning. There's no event that I know of anyhow, so.
[01:00:07] Speaker A: Well, given how you said Patriots fans react to Browns fan, if you just put a couple guys here, a couple guys here, a couple guys here throughout the stadium, I think you guys could take them.
[01:00:15] Speaker D: Oh, listen, let me tell you something. There's a lot more than a couple when you go down there. Browns fans, man, we travel, man. I usually go to one game a year somewhere. Like last year I went to Vegas and literally half the stadium was Browns fans. I kid you not, really. And I, I wouldn't say half the stadium down here as Browns fans. There's a nice 10, 20%. There's a nice little chunk down there. I'll tell you more than you would think anyhow. More than I would thought anyhow.
[01:00:39] Speaker A: Yeah, well, listen, I mean, with, with the Browns coming to town and playing there in New England, New England's having a decent Browns, obviously. Not, not as much. But who, who wins this Sunday and what's your score prediction?
[01:00:53] Speaker D: Well, I'm gonna give you my, my prediction, okay? You're probably gonna think I'm crazy, okay. But.
[01:00:58] Speaker B: But you are.
[01:01:00] Speaker D: You're probably gonna think I'm nuts. But we're gonna, we're gonna win this game finally in New England. And I'm gonna tell you why is because everyone's all on the Drake May Band.
I'm watching it in New England. Everyone thinks he's the next Tom Brady.
And I'll tell you what, I heard the same story three years ago for Mac Jones when he was. Oh, yeah, he's the next Tom Brady. I mean, yeah, he's playing a lot better now that he's off in New England. But I've heard this story before. Drake May hasn't faced anybody yet this year. Our defenses, I mean, you know, if you watch the games, our defense is the shit. I mean, really, if we are for our offense with anything, we'd be.
We'd have a hell of a lot better record. We know that. And we also know we've played. Played the hardest first six game schedule in the league that we had, you know, I mean, and they've played pretty, pretty much nobodies. I mean, other than. Yeah, they did beat Buffalo, I'll give them that one.
[01:01:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:01:55] Speaker D: But I'm gonna tell you, we're gonna come down and I'm gonna tell you this is what's going to happen. It's gonna come down to we're gonna. We're gonna be up 17 to 16, and they're gonna go for a few at the end. And somehow, some way, we're gonna either get some kind of a tip block or something, we're gonna get something, they're gonna shank it and it's gonna be. It's gonna be a down to the Warrior game, but we're gonna somehow yank it off of there. I'm telling you.
[01:02:17] Speaker A: 1716, Browns. Nice.
[01:02:19] Speaker D: 1760. Low scoring game. It's gonna be.
It's gonna be a tough game. It ain't gonna be no shootout, nothing like that.
[01:02:27] Speaker B: Yeah, nice. Bill, since you brought up the offense real quick, I just want to get your thoughts on the quarterback situation. Are you a fan of Gabriel right now or are you waiting to see Shador?
[01:02:36] Speaker D: No, I'm a Dylan Gabriel fan. Listen, Shador will get his time eventually, but this kid has done nothing wrong. I mean, if he had. Let me tell you, our biggest problem with our offense right now is our line. Man, our tackles really stink, to be honest with you. You know what I mean? I mean, our guards and our center is fine, but the tackles are horrendous, man. I mean, if we had two tackles that were worth the rat's ass, we, you know, we'd probably get a lot more done. I mean, the kid's got a hell of an arm and he's got accuracy, you know what I mean?
It's just giving him a little bit of time to work with it, you know what I mean? And we got to catch the ball, too, man. Out of look lately. But we've got to be up in the top of the league with draw passes. I mean, come on, there's times, you know, you've seen the games. You're throwing them, and he's putting them right in the guy's hands and they're dropping them. I mean, you can't do that, man. This is the NFL. You gotta catch that.
[01:03:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:03:29] Speaker B: A lot of problems outside of the quarterback. That's true.
[01:03:31] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:03:31] Speaker E: Yeah.
[01:03:32] Speaker D: Oh, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, if I had the choice, Dylan be fine, you know, I mean, yeah, if we. If we lose three, four, five more down the road, yes, we could throw Shador in there and I would have no problem with it. But right now, there's no. No sense in it mean, you know.
Really, there isn't.
[01:03:48] Speaker A: Yep.
[01:03:49] Speaker B: Fair enough.
[01:03:51] Speaker A: Listen, Bill, I wish we could stay on and talk to you all evening. You know, this is a good conversation. I could tell you're very passionate about the Browns. If all of our fans could be as passionate as you, that would be phenomenal. But I wish.
[01:04:04] Speaker D: I wish they could, too. Trust me.
I wish I can get them to.
[01:04:07] Speaker A: Be like Melissa, Bill, like I said, I wish we could talk all night. If we're ever out in New Hampshire, you definitely know we're going to be stopping at the rusty Hampshire Hammer in ports trying to catch a Browns game with you. So.
[01:04:20] Speaker D: Yeah, for beers on me, brother.
[01:04:22] Speaker A: Absolutely. Thanks for joining us.
[01:04:25] Speaker D: No problem, man.
We're the seacoast Browns backers, and you're listening to the burning river sportscast. Go, Brownies.
[01:04:39] Speaker A: Good time talking to Bill from the Seacoast Brownsbackers, huh?
[01:04:42] Speaker B: Kind of sense. Makes. Makes me want some clam chowder.
[01:04:45] Speaker A: That's what New England does.
Football.
[01:04:51] Speaker E: Clam chowder.
[01:04:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Chad ahead.
[01:04:54] Speaker B: Yeah, Chad.
Whoa.
[01:04:57] Speaker A: Hey, wait. You guys hear that?
I think we got a message. I think it's time for mission control with Brownstronaut.
[01:05:04] Speaker D: T minus 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 3, 2, 1.
[01:05:14] Speaker A: Zero.
[01:05:15] Speaker D: Ignition.
[01:05:17] Speaker A: Liftoff.
[01:05:24] Speaker B: This is Brown Chinot calling in on.
[01:05:25] Speaker E: The burning river sportscast with the mission update.
[01:05:28] Speaker A: The dog ship has entered patriot airspace. They're guarding their turf.
[01:05:31] Speaker B: This is in 1776. It's Cleveland. Time to conquer.
[01:05:34] Speaker A: Engines roaring, defense locked in. The orange and browns banner ready to be planted.
[01:05:39] Speaker B: This Sunday, the revolution goes orbital Browns rule the galaxy.
I feel like it's. It's time. And maybe, you know, next week's the bye week, so it might be time to actually bring brownstronaut and Macho Fan just back in to have an actual conversation. I mean, we love the cameos each week and them doing their stuff, but I think it might be time to just have them back on the show. Show.
[01:06:05] Speaker A: Consider it done.
[01:06:08] Speaker B: Okay, thanks.
[01:06:10] Speaker A: I'll do it. I agree with you. I mean it's, it's always, it is nice having the cameos, but it's, it's a lot better having them actually here talking to them. So we'll definitely bring them on next week, I'm sure. I mean, assuming their schedules are open. You know, haven't checked with them yet, but we, we'll see what we can do.
[01:06:24] Speaker B: Schedules are always open for the Burning River Sportscast.
[01:06:27] Speaker E: Is.
[01:06:28] Speaker A: Is that what we're going with? We're some arrogant sons of.
[01:06:32] Speaker B: If it's not open, then open it.
[01:06:35] Speaker A: Let's go ahead and get into the Week eight preview.
All right. This week we have the New England Patriots in, you know, Week eight preview. Another preview. That means another edition of Kenny's Cliff Notes.
[01:07:05] Speaker B: It's harder to be synced up your virtual.
[01:07:08] Speaker A: It's almost impossible.
I always try it when we're on Sunday nights and it, it never works.
[01:07:14] Speaker B: Yeah, feels bad.
[01:07:16] Speaker A: I like when Bone just, I look up at the producer screen and Bones just smiling at me like hey guys.
[01:07:22] Speaker B: Time for Kenny's Cliff Notes.
[01:07:24] Speaker A: What do you got?
[01:07:25] Speaker B: Browns at Patriots Mike Vrabel or Human Resources, a nickname he earned while coaching for the Cleveland Browns from his role in dealing with both the personne coaching aspects of the team is now known solely as coach of the five and two Patriots. Josh McDaniels has nine lives as the Pats play caller and Terrell Williams comes over from Detroit as the DC 2024 first round pick. Drake May has settled in during his second year after a solid rookie campaign, completing over 75% of his passes for over 1700 yards, 12 touchdowns and two picks on the second season with Antonio Gibson on the IR. Ramandre Stevenson is the every down back, averaging nearly five yards of carry with rookie Trayvon Henderson waiting in the wings. Stefan Diggs is in his 10th year in the league but is also on pace for a thousand yards. And Kon Booty Booty is proven to be a valuable wide receiver too. Hunter Henry has three touchdowns on the season and Austin Hooper has already caught more passes for the Patriots than he ever did for the Browns.
May is athletic but could be in for a mud pie this weekend as the Pats O line has struggled to keep him upright, giving up Four sacks just last week against the lowly Titans. This defense is good. Mike Vrabel. Need I say more? Their run defense is top five in the league. Christian Barmore and Milton Williams are stout and Edge Clayvon Chase on has four and a half sacks so far this season. And Christian Gonzalez is one of the league's top young corner corners.
Rookie kicker Andy Borgalis is nine of ten on the year. And Bryce Barringer, who looks like generic player number four, is the NFL's second longest boot of the year at 73 yards.
Maybe it'll be a tsunami again and Cleveland might win for the second week in a row. Go Browns.
[01:09:21] Speaker A: Is that what it takes?
[01:09:22] Speaker D: There's.
[01:09:23] Speaker A: That's. That's your key to victory.
[01:09:24] Speaker B: Well, last week I said maybe it'll snow and the Browns will win. So you were close. Proven that. Now in bad weather, at least we have that going for us.
[01:09:31] Speaker A: So maybe you better not start getting into weather talk, or else we're gonna have to get into dome talk.
[01:09:37] Speaker B: Give me dome.
[01:09:39] Speaker A: Yeah, give us all dome.
With every edition of Kenny's Cliff Notes comes another edition of Ronnie Jam's.
[01:09:47] Speaker B: Matches Matter.
[01:10:01] Speaker A: All right, so I got two matchups that matter.
[01:10:03] Speaker B: Excellent.
[01:10:04] Speaker A: Bet you didn't see that coming.
Number one.
This one's interesting. They don't really match up with each other, but Quinn, Sean, Judkins versus Trayvon Henderson.
[01:10:14] Speaker B: Yeah, those guys fight each other all day.
[01:10:18] Speaker A: That's. That's one of my matchups that matter because I know that on our show we actually debated. I still, you know, in back and forth on a. Quinn, Sean's looked awesome for the Browns, but I thought Travy Henderson was the better back coming out of college. So I think both these guys want to prove something.
I think they'll have a lot of fun being matched up, you know, their teams being matched up against each other.
Think Quinch on Judkin's gonna come out on top. But we'll. We'll see. We'll see. That's.
[01:10:43] Speaker B: That feels like a gamble.
The starter versus the backup.
[01:10:51] Speaker A: Well, and the other part of this is, is just the simple fact that whoever establishes the run in the game, in this game, is probably going to win. I didn't get there yet, but both teams are very good against the run, so, you know, whoever's able to get more yards, that's who's going to win the game, most likely. And then finally, Mike Vrabel versus Kevin Stefanski. Had to put this in there because Mike Vrabel coming or going to New England from Cleveland Knows everything there is to know about Stefanik. Probably takes you like six minutes to learn it.
And so it's just going to be interesting to see how he matches up with Kevin Stefanski in this one. Mike Rabel's a defensive guy, so, you know, again with the most vanilla offense in the entire league, I think that the New England Patriots might be wreaking havoc on the Cleveland Browns all afternoon. So in summary here, the Patriots are coming off a beat down of the hapless Titans.
They're 5 and 2. Their defensive unit is number 16 overall. They're 25 against the pack. And number 4 against the run.
On offense, they're number 16 overall. Again, they're just very consistent. They're right at 16, which equals 5 and 2, I guess. I don't know.
Their running game is number 27, and their passing game on offense is number six in the NFL.
Turn it over to the Browns. They're coming off a surprising slaughter of the Dolphins.
Again, we did not see this coming, but the Browns now sit at 2 and 5.
It was fun, fun, but let's be real. It's not something that we can expect every week from the Cleveland Browns. They're still a bad football team. Kevin Stefanik is still your head coach.
Do not get excited. It's not going to be good.
Defensively, we're still pretty good there. Number three overall in the NFL. Number three against the run. Number seven against the pass. But on offense, we're as bad as ever. Number 28 overall, number 29 in the NFL for the running game and number 27 for the pass passing game. Do the Browns have a chance?
That's for every man to decide for themselves.
But there has to be a key to victory. So let's go ahead and bring in the big bone man, because it's time for Bone man. Skeleton key to victory Bone. What's the skeleton key to victory?
[01:13:12] Speaker E: Pressure, Mr. Jams.
[01:13:14] Speaker A: Pressure makes diamonds.
[01:13:15] Speaker E: And lots of pressure.
[01:13:16] Speaker B: Sure.
[01:13:18] Speaker E: Let's say four. Four sacks. So many sacks.
If we want to win this game, we're gonna have to put Drake man on the ground. Make them, make them make some bad decisions. And I think if we put a lot of pressure on them, the Browns defense can do that. So I don't have a lot of confidence in our offense. So I think our defense needs to win the game if we have any chance. So lots of sacks.
[01:13:41] Speaker B: Make him eat the mud pie.
[01:13:43] Speaker A: Are you Vince Vaugh?
[01:13:45] Speaker E: I, I, I've been compared to him, yeah, Often times in my life.
[01:13:50] Speaker A: I was just asking because that's like one of his lines in multiple movies. Like, let's make some bad decisions.
[01:13:58] Speaker B: I like it. Sex.
[01:13:59] Speaker A: Get all the. I did not see it. I did not see it coming. That Bone was going to tell me. He's been compared to Vince Fawn multiple.
[01:14:06] Speaker B: Times, and I can see that. I can see a little Vince.
[01:14:09] Speaker E: Oh, I appreciate that. That's actually the first time anybody's ever said that about.
[01:14:16] Speaker A: You want to see Vince and Bone.
[01:14:17] Speaker B: Maybe a little Bone and Vince. Yeah, just a little Bone.
[01:14:22] Speaker A: Kenny, what's the betting info for this.
[01:14:23] Speaker B: One that would require me to have that betting info?
Line is Patriots minus seven over, under at 40.5.
[01:14:37] Speaker A: Minus seven. We're back to this, huh?
[01:14:40] Speaker B: Yeah. If, if anybody had any doubts about, you know, the Browns chances in this game, Vegas doesn't. After coming out of a win.
[01:14:48] Speaker E: No.
[01:14:48] Speaker A: No doubts at all. Who's everybody's player to watch? We'll start with Bone.
[01:14:52] Speaker D: Oh, boy.
[01:14:54] Speaker E: You know what? I, I, I, I was talking about a lot of pressure, so I'm just saying Miles Garrett, we need to get him back on the board. I know he had won last game, but it'd be nice to see him get too, you know, he needs to get, get back on track, get that defense player of the year. So. Miles Garrett.
[01:15:09] Speaker A: Listen, before I, I, before, before I talk about mine, I, I just want to say I saw so much on social media about everybody just, like, talking down Miles Garrett again and saying, like, he wasn't trying it all in that game. There was no motor whatever. Like, I know we used to give him about this. We said we're never giving him about this anymore. I honestly, like, because we used to give him about this, I actually keep an eye out for this pretty regularly. Like, is he going, Is he actually playing that game? I thought he was okay and that, like, what you guys think? I don't know.
[01:15:40] Speaker B: It did seem like maybe there was, I don't want to call it apprehension, but it seemed like he was kind of there at the start of the game. And then I think as the team built momentum in the bad weather and they put some points on the board, it seemed like all of a sudden, like he kicked into gear and was like, all right, I'll play again.
[01:16:00] Speaker A: I mean, I don't know. I just kind of look at it like there's probably going to be some slow starts in specific games for nothing other than the reason that, you know, starting out the game, like, your offense isn't going to give you anything today. So you've, you've got to be the guy, and that's got to be hard to get up for every single.
[01:16:18] Speaker B: Well, I think there's some natural human apathy there that's like, if do you continue to lose weekend and week out, there's got to be some level of frustration that takes over, and I don't think it's. I mean, I think that's all fair, right? I mean, he's been watching this offense suck consistently for weeks.
But, you know, I think a play like the.
The pick six, like, all of a sudden that turns things around and you're like, all right, I'm excited to play again.
You know, Miles doesn't get a pass on. Like, I'm not being excited to play because he got the bag, right? He got all the money. He got the contract he wanted. I can't feel bad for him because the Browns suck. Like, he had every opportunity to leave. If he truly wanted to force his way out and go play for a competitor, frankly, it probably would have been better for the Browns. Browns to acquire picks for Miles, but he took the money and he stayed. So you don't get any sympathy there for, like, the Browns being bad, but I think it's understandable where he would be frustrated as a player.
[01:17:16] Speaker A: Well, and I guess my point in this whole thing was I didn't think it was egregious. Like, maybe it took him a minute to get going in the game, but I didn't think he was, like, just taking plays off and stuff.
[01:17:24] Speaker B: Well, the whole reason I said at the beginning of the season like, that I can't give him anymore is just because. Because Miles Garrett, at 60% capacity, is. Is still the top five defensive end in the league. So even if he's not playing his hardest, like, he's still there, he's still requiring double teams.
I mean, you saw in the. The packers game, like, there was times where he was being triple teamed. They had three guys on Miles Garrett. If you command that much attention just by being alive, you're doing something.
So, yeah, yeah, I have a hard time believing that, you know, because if Miles truly plays off, teams wouldn't be scheming against him. I think that's the other thing that goes unnoticed in this conversation. Everybody wants to get all their Miles because he's not all over the stat sheet. He doesn't have two sacks every game.
Teams, literally, there's not a lot of good things going on on this Browns team. Teams literally scheme all week to prevent him from disrupting their game plan. So when you're putting two and three heads on Miles Garrett. Like, it takes a superhuman feat to come down with the quarterback. Like, it's just the reality of the situation. They purposely game plan to eliminate him as a component of whatever they're doing that week. So when teams consistently scheme against you individually, it makes it really hard to put the stat sheet together, which is why guys like Mason Graham, Alex Wright, like, those guys need to step up in those moments and they need to be on the stat sheet. So I can't get all over Miles for not being the on stat sheet. You're gonna get all over Miles. Get all over those other guys because Miles is the man that is commanding triple teams.
[01:19:03] Speaker A: Yeah. So start and.
Yeah. And I know I told you about it, Kenny.
[01:19:07] Speaker B: We.
[01:19:07] Speaker A: We've. We've garnered a troll on our. Our Facebook page.
I don't have the guy's name in front of me, but he. Every chance he gets, he comments about how bad Miles Garrett is. And it's become kind of comical at this point. And. And he, he was. He had something to say after this and, you know, not to take shots at anybody. Personally, I hope he kind of listens to this, though. I just want to tell him, like, hey, man, you know what? A hall of fame semi professional football player is a guy that can't make an NFL roster. So, you know, Miles Garrett's a hall of Famer. He's way better than you'll ever be. Just got to stop being bitter.
[01:19:47] Speaker B: Yeah, I just, like, I go back to, like, imagine you're at work, your day job, and imagine that everything you do, there are three people trying to prevent you from doing it. Like, how good do you think you would be? How productive would you be if every time you tried to type an email, somebody was like, no, and they grabbed your hands? You wouldn't write very many emails. Your production would seem incredibly low. You might be the best author, the best email writer in the world. If someone is holding your hand, hands down, you won't be able to do it. I challenge you to that.
[01:20:20] Speaker A: Bones. Like, that sounds like a normal day at work for me. I don't know.
Anyways, we're in player to watch right now. My player to watch is Quinn Sean Judkins.
I just think what I said earlier, whoever can not even fully establish the run, but whoever establishes the run the most, I think there's going to be very little rushing yards in this game. But whoever has the most rushing yards, I think wins this one.
So I'm going, Quinn Sean Judkins. Kenny, who you got?
[01:20:52] Speaker B: I'm going to door Sanders.
Look, I know it's only been three games.
[01:20:59] Speaker A: Is the timing just right?
[01:21:00] Speaker B: I know it's only been three games and it's not fair. But you know what? Life's not fair. The truth is we didn't need to see desean Kaiser. There's my desean Kaiser reference. Kevin Hogan, Connor Shaw, or fellow third round pick Cody Kennedy Kessler. You know, another quarterback from a big time program. We didn't need to see those guys for a full season to know they were limited as a quarterback. And I'm sorry, I, I've just, I've seen enough Samoan Frodo just ain't it? Like, I'm not even saying, I'm not even saying Shador is. I'm just ready to find out. Like I, I've just seen and I've seen enough. I haven't seen anything that tells me he's going to be anything different than what he is, which is, you know, he can, he can manage the offense. And in a week like last week where the weather was a factor and all you had to do was manage the offense, great, like you did your job, but that doesn't mean that you have the ability to elevate those around you to lead other men and to make big time plays when it counts. I just don't think he, he has that. And again, I know it's not fair to say after three games I'm the first guy that will tell you. Like, I think people give up on quarterbacks too early. We talk every week about these guys that have a second life, the NFL. I just again go back to DeShawn Kaiser, Kevin Hogan, Connor Shaw, Cody Kessler. Like all these guys were here and you, you knew we wanted to believe. Like, yeah, maybe Deshaun Kaiser is Tom Brady's brain with Cam Newton's body. Like, let's see, it wasn't. And we, we all knew that.
And I think we can see the writing on the wall with Dylan Gabriel. Like, this is kind of the ceiling. I, I hate to write a guy off early, but there's a reason why nobody else in the NFL had him high on their draft board. Like, he just, he's just not. There's nothing that's intangibly special about him. They talked about in the broadcast, they said like he's going to battle his height and that his whole career. And in order to be successful, you have to overcome that. You have to have what they literally called, you have to have a superpower.
And it has to be. Kevin's basically talking about his supercomputer brain. He processes information really quickly. You have to offer more than that. You have to offer also be able to play and he just hasn't shown me anything in three weeks that tells me I can stretch the field, I can make clutch throws. Is he okay? He's not terrible. He's not the worst I've ever seen. I have no problem with the Browns going to Shador Sanders next week and if he starts three or four games and is equally doo doo, go back to go go back to Dylan Gabriel. Like, like see what you have but at least see what you have while the chips are even on the table and you have a team that's still competing and playing every day. Hard to try and get back thing before you just say, yeah, we're going to let Dylan kind of play until the wheels fall off and. And once he finally shows us who he is, even though we are kind of already know, then we'll go to Shador and at that point it'll be too late to determine anything but at least we'll be able to say we gave it the college try. So. So my player to watch, long story short, my player to watch is Shador Sanders. I'm ready. I'm ready to see him play. I'm, I'm, I'm done with Dylan Gabriel at this point. I've seen enough.
I don't have any problem with him being the backup going into next year. I think he can make a career at that. It's a smart guy. Maybe he could be a coach in NFL the someday I'm ready to see Shador.
[01:24:15] Speaker A: I just thought you ran rave there a couple things while you were going through that whole thing. I was just wondering if Dylan Gabriel could, if he found some success, if he could potentially develop his own line of platform spikes.
[01:24:35] Speaker B: I mean on Sunday they were. They were wearing the long cleats in the rain. So that was as tall as he's ever going to be.
[01:24:40] Speaker A: He's like, I wear six and a half inch cleats the first quarter high heels. Yeah. Also you know how they do like the jersey with all the. The quarterbacks for Cleveland.
We should make a jersey on our show with all the nicknames for Dylan Gabriel.
We got little coconut, little lava lamp, Samoan Frodo, Hawaii 5 9.
Like these are all very good.
And I'll. You know, I hate you, Kenny, but I'll give you props. These were all from you.
I haven't even been thinking about it you clearly spend most of your days thinking about Dylan Gabriel.
[01:25:18] Speaker B: I do what I can.
[01:25:19] Speaker A: Yeah. All right, guys. Anyways, it's time for King of the North.
All right. In case anyone doesn't know by now, this is our year long AFC north pick them competition at the end of the season. Whoever comes in last place gets punished. In the preseason two years ago, Kenny had a gross of eggs thrown at him by fans in the muni lot before a game in the preseason last year, Kenny had his hair and beard shaved clean off.
This past week for losing last season, Kenny donned the pads for the first time in almost 20 years and times by our guy, Big John Hughes. Kenny, let's talk about that for a minute. Did you take your neck brace back off?
[01:26:10] Speaker B: I did. It was making me sweaty and I was having a hard time breathing.
[01:26:14] Speaker A: So. You win some, you lose some, you got a broken neck, but, you know, you got to be able to breathe.
[01:26:19] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I gotta be able to do the show.
[01:26:22] Speaker A: How did it feel, Kenny?
[01:26:23] Speaker B: Let me tell you this.
I've been beaten with eggs. I've been shaved down to my skin.
This was by far the worst thing that's ever happened to me by a long shot.
[01:26:36] Speaker A: The worst thing that's ever happened to you?
[01:26:38] Speaker B: The worst thing that's ever happened to me.
I was amazed at the amount of speed a retired football player, a defensive tackle, mind you, was able to pick up and hit me with in such a short amount of grass.
And that's not to say anything, but I mean, I think it's. I think people don't realize because like a guy like John, I think played at 3:30 or 3 4:40, and you don't often think of these big guys as athletes.
John today, I don't know what he weighs. He's. He's much slimmer.
[01:27:10] Speaker A: I think he said he's too. He's probably like in the 260 range.
[01:27:13] Speaker B: Yeah, but he's a young, healthy guy that still works out, you know, still very fit.
And he's.
[01:27:19] Speaker A: You think John's fit?
[01:27:20] Speaker B: He's. He's built a lot more like a linebacker or a tight end now than he ever was.
So I don't know if that contributed to the pain, but. But it certainly contributed to the ability for him to pick speed so quickly. It was literally like a freight train hit me.
It was like being in a car wreck. Like I can't even compare it to anything else that's ever happened in my life because he hit me so hard. Each time he hit me, I Don't, like, I don't have any memory of the moment of impact because I just, I went somewhere, I don't know where I went.
And then I woke up somewhere on the ground.
And John was, you know, very good sport about it. Very, you know, tried to pick me up right afterward each time. And I was just like, I am.
[01:28:02] Speaker E: Let me lay here.
[01:28:03] Speaker B: I need to just sit a minute.
The second time, he just knocked the wind totally out of my sails. I couldn't breathe for a good while.
But, you know, as losers do, you have to just persevere and take it and get through it. And that's what I did. That was.
[01:28:20] Speaker A: You're good at that because you've been losing a long time.
[01:28:22] Speaker B: Yeah, I've had a lot of practice.
[01:28:23] Speaker E: I was, I was watching him practice, like getting his starts, you know, before he hit you. And I commented to him, I was like, john, dude, you get going so fast. And he looked at me, he goes, oh, yeah. He's like, at the combine, I had a hurt hamstring. I didn't run the 40. He's like, All I did was a 10 yard dash. And he's like, he ran it one time and looked at the scouts and they were like, he's like, you want me to do it again? They're like, no, dude, that was, that was enough.
[01:28:47] Speaker B: Drafted in the third round.
[01:28:48] Speaker E: Yeah.
[01:28:50] Speaker A: Was it the 10 yard dash or was it the three cone drill?
[01:28:52] Speaker E: It was. He said it was a 10 yard dash. He's like, that's all I pretty much did. And that was like another for them.
[01:28:57] Speaker A: Yeah, I was off to this. I was setting stuff up and I heard him telling you guys a story and I was just like, that's it. That's all it took for somebody to be like, I'll take it.
[01:29:05] Speaker B: It was, it was insane. I have a, a very new look. I played football growing up. Like, I played from the time I was little. I played it, you know, in high school. Like, I've been hit before. I've never been hit like that, which I guess should be expected. He's an NFL player, but just an NFL defensive tackle. But it was, but it was so. It was so entirely different than anything I've ever.
Um. And just to be in that situation where you're stationary and helpless and just having to accept it and just watching this giant man. I mean, when John got out of his car, I looked up at him. That was when my neck still worked. And I just, I, I don't know what it was like, we haven't seen John in a minute.
And I was just like, I. He's just such a huge, hulking human being.
[01:29:50] Speaker A: What's the saying? It was, it was at this point that I knew I'd fucked up.
[01:29:53] Speaker B: Yeah, Yeah. I knew I was in trouble when he got out of the car. And man, I just. That guy really can move and is super athletic. He played tight end in, in high school with a top ranked tight end, so he told us afterward. He said he kind of ate his way to defensive line in college, but I mean, that is a multi sport athlete. That is just a, just a tremendous, tremendous specimen.
And he had his way with me.
[01:30:23] Speaker A: You mentioned every time you got hit, you went somewhere else.
[01:30:26] Speaker B: Yeah, I got no ide idea where I was.
[01:30:29] Speaker A: Yeah, every time you got hit, I was just hoping you want to come back.
[01:30:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
I can say I have a very new, healthy respect for, like, quarterbacks that end up. I mean, you see some of these hits on TV and, you know, we love the, you know, the bloodlust of the fan. Like, oh, we just want to see big hits. Like, I, I don't know how some of these guys get up. I mean, you see like, Josh Allen get flung to the ground sometimes. Like, that's a big guy. So to throw Josh Allen to the ground to where he bounces, like, you got.
[01:30:54] Speaker A: And you had pads under you.
[01:30:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I didn't land on the dirt. I landed on tackling pa. So I at least had that going for me and I still was just pummeled into the ground, so.
[01:31:03] Speaker A: And then. And then also you said, this is the worst thing that ever happened to you. This is one of the best things that's ever happened to me.
[01:31:09] Speaker B: Thank you. So my, my sternum and torso, like, everything is still very, very bruised.
The, the last time he hit me, we kind of were doing a. We were filming something special and. And I didn't make my mouthpiece into my mouth and my arm was directly in front of my chest when John made impact. And like, I'm surprised he didn't break it. It's. It's like bruised, like all the way up and down my forearm from him just making impact directly with my arm bone.
[01:31:40] Speaker A: Feels bad.
[01:31:40] Speaker B: Yeah, felt real.
[01:31:42] Speaker A: Have you learned your lesson about losing?
[01:31:46] Speaker B: Look, I am personally gonna pull the first wax strip off of John's taint after I beat him this year.
[01:31:53] Speaker A: Which. Yeah. So this year the loser will be getting a Brazilian wax. So, Kenny, are you excited about this? Because it's gonna happen to you. We each get to pull one strip.
[01:32:05] Speaker B: I'm not agreeing to that.
I didn't lose yet, but I'm not agreeing to that. I will let the professional do it.
[01:32:12] Speaker E: Oh.
[01:32:13] Speaker A: Oh, so you are excited then.
[01:32:18] Speaker B: I'm telling you, nothing can be worse than getting hit by John Hughes. That. That was terrible. I mean, maybe the only thing that could be worse was like if you got hit by John Hughes when he was 20, 25.
I can't think of anything worse than that.
[01:32:30] Speaker A: So that'll do it. Yeah, that'd be bad. But. Okay, let's get into things.
First things first. I want to remind everyone that Bone is the reigning defending King of the North.
Second, John Hughes obviously has joined king of the north this year. And finally, Kenny's a clown.
[01:32:48] Speaker B: Thank you.
[01:32:49] Speaker A: So let's remind everyone of the current standings after week seven. Bones on top at 13 and nine. I'm at 12 and 10. John is at nine and 13. And Kenny, right where you belong at eight and 14.
Better. You better start getting your taint warmed up.
[01:33:05] Speaker B: The Browns didn't help me this week.
[01:33:07] Speaker A: No.
Let's get into this week's game.
Just one game. Just week's games.
The Ravens are back from by and they're hosting the Bears.
Bone, who do you got?
[01:33:21] Speaker E: Oh, man, I'm.
I'm going to say Lamar's back. We don't know yet.
[01:33:26] Speaker A: So he's not practicing as of Monday.
[01:33:28] Speaker E: I read their first official practice is Wednesday. And what are we on a. We're on a Monday, so I'm going to say he's back this week and they're going to win at home after a buy.
[01:33:39] Speaker A: Kenny, who you got?
[01:33:40] Speaker B: This game is so hard to pick without knowing whether or not Lamar is playing.
The spread is six and a half Ravens.
I. So I think Vegas thinks Lamar is going to play, but honestly, this team wasn't winning when Lamar was playing, so that defense is still so bad. Chicago's somehow 4 and 2. Caleb Williams has played pretty well.
I'll go Bears. Bears over Ravens.
[01:34:10] Speaker A: I'm also going to go with the Bears.
I think Lamar does play play. I think he very quickly re injures himself and is out for possibly the rest of the season.
[01:34:23] Speaker B: So our fantasy team can't.
[01:34:25] Speaker E: Yeah, I need him. I need him too.
[01:34:27] Speaker A: Kenny, I have no love lost for you.
[01:34:29] Speaker D: You.
[01:34:30] Speaker A: You played Jaylen Waddle in a tsunami over CD Lamb. So you're an idiot. You're not going to win many fantasy games. Just get used to it. Thank you.
And then John, who you got?
[01:34:41] Speaker F: And starting off, we have Chicago Bears going to Baltimore and Lamar's return changes the energy in Baltimore, but the Bears are playing their best ball right now and have a lot of momentum on both sides of the ball. The Ravens are still shaky defensively, and Chicago's chemistry has been clicking. I like this one to stay close, but I see the Ravens pulling this one out at the end of the day.
[01:35:03] Speaker A: All right, so we're split down the middle on this one.
That's. That always feels bad when I pick the same team as. As Kenny, and I'm the only one that does.
But anyways, Cincinnati up next. They're hosting the Kenny who you got the.
[01:35:21] Speaker B: The jets might be the worst team in football. I know they're making a quarterback change, or at least they did this week. I would assume that Justin go Jets isn't going to start.
But they're a dumpster file. File. I can't talk. They're a dumpster file. That's because John Pertwine.
[01:35:35] Speaker A: A dumpster file could turn into a dumpster fire.
[01:35:38] Speaker E: Yes.
[01:35:39] Speaker B: If there are a bunch of files in the dumpster could catch on fire. I'm going to go Bangles. They've got, you know, new life with Joe Flacco, who played well last week.
They beat a Steelers team that is infinitely better than this jets team. So I'll go Bangles this week.
[01:35:53] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm going to go Bengals as well.
Yeah, I mean, I think Joe Flacco, I think they're actually going to utilize his skills, and I think he'll actually win several games before Joe Burrow comes back.
It just sucks to say. Like I said, we. I thought we'd be battling them for the bottom of the division. I think it's just going to be us outright by several games. I got the Bengals in this, and I don't think it's going to be close either.
John, who you got?
[01:36:21] Speaker F: Next up, we have the New York jets taking on the Bengals in Cincinnati. And with an 07 start, the jets look completely lost. No rhythm, no direction, and no spark. Meanwhile, the Bengals are finally starting to find their groove with their new quarterback and Joe Flacco. And you can feel their confidence growing after last week. Week's win against the Steelers. Cincinnati's offense should have a field day at home against the Jets. I got the Bengals on this one.
[01:36:49] Speaker A: All right, so John also goes Bengals. Bone you.
[01:36:53] Speaker E: I am not going against the grain here. I am also picking Z. Bengals.
[01:36:59] Speaker A: I think. I think bone is just like survival at this place. Like, I'm way out in front. If everybody's picking the same team. I'm picking them, too.
[01:37:06] Speaker E: I picked the Ravens here. We could. You could get up again.
[01:37:09] Speaker A: Yeah, but that was split like half and half, you know, like these ones. When everybody else goes and picks the same team, then you're like, I'll pick that team too. Cause it can't hurt you.
[01:37:19] Speaker E: Yeah, that's a good strategy, but I'm not going to pick the Jets.
I think that's. That's just bad.
[01:37:26] Speaker A: That's smart. That's fair. You know they're going to beat the Browns, right?
Anyways, Pittsburgh hosts the packers for the next game here. This is another tough one to pick.
[01:37:39] Speaker B: Is it in Pittsburgh?
[01:37:41] Speaker A: It's in Pittsburgh.
[01:37:42] Speaker B: That's right. That's right.
[01:37:43] Speaker A: Everybody's home this week in the AFC north except for the Browns.
I'm going to go.
I'm going to go Pittsburgh in this one and this one's really hard because I think. I really do think the packers are by far the better team here.
However, you got Aaron Rodgers playing his former team. It's going to be a revenge game for him.
It's at home for. For Pittsburgh. And you got Mike Tomlin. I just think there's a lot of things that a lot of intangibles that are going to go lean towards Pittsburgh. So I'm going to go Pittsburgh in this one. Jon, who you got?
[01:38:21] Speaker F: All right, next up, we have Green Bay going to visit the Steelers for this game. Even with Rogers going against his former team, this packers team teams is going to be a saving game for them. The packers offense is finding rhythm and Jordan Love has been spreading the ball around with confidence.
Steelers defense will keep it close early, but Green Bay's balance and red zone efficiency gives the the edge late. I think the packers silence the Pittsburgh crowd and and get a solid road win on this one.
[01:38:53] Speaker A: All right, so John's taking the packers bone.
[01:38:57] Speaker E: I'm also going Pittsburgh. I was actually surprised when you said it. I thought we were going to be on opposite ends of this one, but that was just my first instinct is home game. Aaron Rodgers, former team.
I feel like him and him to DK Metcalf has been pretty good. So yeah, with Pittsburgh, if you've noticed.
[01:39:14] Speaker A: Me distracted throughout this show at all, it's actually because I was thinking about this game and I was back and forth the entire time. I was going to go packers, but I. I didn't. So Kenny, who you got?
[01:39:30] Speaker B: I honestly wrote down packers before we started.
[01:39:33] Speaker A: We swung you.
[01:39:35] Speaker B: They're a 3 1/2 point favorite on the road But I got to put some distance between me and John, so I'll go Steelers this week.
I do think there is something to the revenge game aspect of Aaron Rodgers playing Green Bay, playing Jordan Love.
Um, that doesn't always mean anything. Aaron Rodgers is the kind of asshole that it means something to. Yeah, he's the guy. He's the kind of guy that, like, he. I mean, you've heard all the things that he said about, like, the jets and like, there's no love lost there with. With what went on in New York. I think this game is personal for Aaron.
Personal to show the fans in Green Bay that, like, you know, he can still ball at 41 years old. And, yeah, I think in the perfect world, he probably would have loved to finish his career in Green Bay and not had them draft Jordan Love. So I think you're going to get the best Aaron Rodgers that you've seen all year long. I'll go Steelers.
[01:40:37] Speaker A: Yeah, I agree with that. Is this going to be like a Kirk Cousins? You like that moment?
[01:40:41] Speaker C: You like that?
[01:40:43] Speaker A: Yeah, there's something about Aaron Rodgers. He's just a big enough dick that he. I gotta play well here.
[01:40:50] Speaker E: Right.
[01:40:52] Speaker A: And then finally, the reason for the season. Browns traveling to New England. John, who you got?
[01:40:58] Speaker F: And last up, we have the Cleveland Browns going to Foxboro. Take on the Patriots. And Cleveland showed some life last week, but they're running into a Patriots squad that's dialed in right now. New England's defense is tough against the run, and they don't beat themselves.
It's been gritty early for them, but the Pats should play. Pull away late by a score. Prediction. Patriots 24, Browns 13.
[01:41:24] Speaker A: All right, so John's going Patriots, 24 13. Bone your pick.
[01:41:30] Speaker E: I will also go patriots.
I'll say 27 to 16.
[01:41:38] Speaker A: Okay. And Kenny.
[01:41:44] Speaker B: The Browns are on a winning streak here.
[01:41:46] Speaker A: They are at three touchdowns, but I.
[01:41:50] Speaker B: Think it ends this week against Mike Vrabel.
I'll go Patriots, 24:19.
[01:41:59] Speaker A: You know, I talked about how bad the Browns are, how the Patriots are pretty good.
I know I said Mike Vrabel is in the building.
Kevin. Stefan Ski's offense takes six minutes to figure out out.
And Mike Vrabel's a defensive guy and he'll know how to shut it down.
And so for all those reasons, I'm gonna go Patriots.
[01:42:28] Speaker B: The suspense was killing me.
[01:42:31] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't. I don't think this game's gonna be close. Like anybody that's excited that the Browns win a game, just stop being excited. The Browns are bad. We suck. We suck real bad.
[01:42:40] Speaker B: Fair enough.
[01:42:41] Speaker A: Like the Browns lose this week one.
We'll go 31 to 10.
Not even close.
So guess not.
Yeah, there you have it though. With that, let me remind everybody to call the Burning river sportscast hot take hotline.
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[01:43:29] Speaker E: Nobody's there.
[01:43:29] Speaker B: We will kick you in the jimmies.
[01:43:31] Speaker E: It's actually kick it right in Jimmy's.
[01:43:34] Speaker A: Be sure to check the our gear www.thetapmedia.com shop and that'll do it for us. Kenny, what can we expect next week?
[01:43:41] Speaker B: What can we expect next week? I'll tell you.
You can expect us to be live on Sunday night live live live on YouTube, Facebook and X as we recap the Week 8 matchup against the Patriots. Should be right on around 9:30 next Thursday. We back with a special bye week episode, a few special guests. It'll be an entertaining show.
Not sure about a Brown Speckers interview because we generally follow the team around the country and they don't play anyone next week so But I'm sure we'll probably hear from a Brownsbacher or two.
[01:44:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:44:17] Speaker B: Because we have to fill two hours with something.
[01:44:21] Speaker A: Yeah. I was thinking we might reach out to like a few of our old friends.
I know there's a guy up in case Canada that might might have an opening might be able to talk to us.
[01:44:31] Speaker B: So guy up in North Jersey that probably would be on the show.
[01:44:34] Speaker A: Yeah, there's there's quite a few guys we know a guy we know a guy we know another guy or two.
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[01:45:13] Speaker B: Kenny back for days.
[01:45:30] Speaker A: Facts for days. Kenny, what do you got?
[01:45:32] Speaker B: I got some facts.
[01:45:34] Speaker A: I want to hear them.
Oh, you want to know?
[01:45:38] Speaker B: Oh, you want to know?
This week I have some facts.
They are facts about New England, damn it.
They're not shark facts or whale facts.
[01:45:54] Speaker A: Sorry, nobody wants shark facts. Bring me whale facts.
[01:45:57] Speaker B: I might shark facts soon and I think you'll be surprised.
[01:46:00] Speaker A: I would be excited about shark facts, but not as excited as I would be if you brought back whale facts.
[01:46:04] Speaker B: You like big fish?
Number one.
The term.
[01:46:08] Speaker A: They're like the John Goodman of the sea. They're just the greatest there ever was.
[01:46:13] Speaker B: I'm going to be Fred Flintstone for Halloween.
[01:46:15] Speaker A: Hell yes.
[01:46:17] Speaker B: Number one.
[01:46:19] Speaker A: Can we all go as a different John Goodman now?
[01:46:22] Speaker B: There's an idea.
Yeah. Smart.
[01:46:25] Speaker A: Number one.
[01:46:26] Speaker B: I'm going to do fact for days now.
[01:46:27] Speaker A: Okay, Number one.
[01:46:30] Speaker B: The term sideburns is named after Ambrose Burnside, former governor of Rhode Island. Burnside was noted for his unique beard, joining strips of hair in front of his ears to his mustache, but the chin clean shaven. The word burnsides was coined to describe the style. Style and was later reversed to sideburns.
[01:46:58] Speaker A: Who reversed it?
I don't know.
[01:47:01] Speaker B: People. Culture.
[01:47:02] Speaker A: You didn't even give us a complete fact. I hate it.
Over one.
[01:47:07] Speaker B: Over one.
Number two.
In 1939, a Maine state representative. Cleveland Sleeper. Cleveland L. Sleeper. That is a tomato hating politician in.
Let that sink in.
[01:47:26] Speaker A: There's a headline.
[01:47:28] Speaker B: Proposed a bill to make it illegal to add tomatoes to clam chowder in the state of Maine. Sleeper, who served in the legislature from 1933 to 1953, had facetiously prepared bills banning the tomato from clam chowder for several years.
Offenders of this law would have been forced to dig up a barrel of clams at high towers tide. The bill was never passed into law, but its introduction created a heated debate that launched the great clam chowder war, leading to a 1939 cook off between the Manhattan style chowders and traditional New England clam chowder.
[01:48:11] Speaker A: I feel like that you're back on board. I'm going to give you two for two now because that was like a bonus fact on top of that fact was that it led to the chowder wars or whatever you called them.
[01:48:21] Speaker B: Yes. And to complete the the fact traditional New England clam chowder did win.
[01:48:26] Speaker A: Nice.
You know, people want to complain about politics today.
This dude literally tried to outlaw tomatoes because he ain't like them.
Yeah.
[01:48:37] Speaker B: He said that. Made it a vegetable soup. And not a clam. Not a clam, not a chowder.
Number three.
His name was Cleveland. I mean, you know, the ties in here, they go. They run deep.
[01:48:49] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
You hear. You hear stuff like that. That's like all those old laws. Like, you can't have a chicken on the steps of town hall on Sunday. Is the third Sunday of the month or whatever.
[01:49:02] Speaker B: Yeah. Fortunately, this bill was never passed. It was actually disappointing. I read his obituary. He died relatively recently in, like, the 1970s.
And no mention of the great clam chowder war or his. His infamous bill.
[01:49:15] Speaker A: So bad legacy. Just shit on.
[01:49:18] Speaker B: If you're going to write an obit about me as a state representative and state senator, like, I would want that in there. Like, that's probably his best accomplishment.
[01:49:26] Speaker A: That's all I know him for.
[01:49:28] Speaker B: Yeah.
Now all of our listeners will know him for number three.
[01:49:32] Speaker A: Anybody knows it for.
[01:49:34] Speaker B: There is a house in Rockport, Massachusetts.
Made entirely out one house.
[01:49:41] Speaker D: Wow.
[01:49:42] Speaker A: There's just one house in Rockport, Massachusetts.
[01:49:46] Speaker B: There's a satellite delay here. Let me start over.
There is a house in Rockport, Massachusetts.
You're going to interrupt me again. Made entirely out of newspaper.
[01:50:02] Speaker A: What?
[01:50:03] Speaker B: It was constructed between 1922 and 1924 by American engineer Ellis Steenman as a summer house. Steenman had always resented the daily waste of newspaper. He later added furniture constructed from rolled newspaper. Steenman had intended to clad the walls with wood, but instead decided to leave the newspaper as it was as an experiment into its durability.
Although for practical reasons. The fireplace and chimney are brick. The mantelpiece itself is made of paper. By 1927, the house had become a tourist attraction, still run today as a museum by members of the Steenman family.
[01:50:45] Speaker E: Wow.
[01:50:47] Speaker A: Excuse me. How does this house stay up?
[01:50:51] Speaker B: It's made out of newspaper.
[01:50:53] Speaker A: That doesn't answer my question. I have that. That'll lead to another question. That will lead to another question over three.
[01:51:01] Speaker B: Those are New England facts for days, my friends.
[01:51:04] Speaker A: If I've learned anything in this segment, it's just that New England facts are confusing as shit.
[01:51:10] Speaker B: There's actually a lot more New England facts than you would think. It took me a while to find to curate those for you, so enjoy.
[01:51:17] Speaker A: I like that you refer. Refer to yourself as a curator.
[01:51:20] Speaker B: Oh, I'm a curator of all things entertainment and all things Burning River. Sportscast.
[01:51:25] Speaker A: Sportscast.
[01:51:26] Speaker B: Yeah. Backs for days.
[01:51:29] Speaker A: All right. Well, those were something.
[01:51:32] Speaker B: This show's already too long.
[01:51:36] Speaker A: Well, you got to think like 15 minutes this is going to get cut up out from us just talking and sat. Going to take a piss and another.
[01:51:41] Speaker B: 15 minutes is going to get put in of an interview.
[01:51:44] Speaker A: Yeah, that's fair.
What do you think, Bone?
[01:51:48] Speaker E: I'm extremely tired. I got up at 4 today.
[01:51:54] Speaker A: Is that why you stopped talking in the last like, like eight minutes of the show?
[01:51:57] Speaker E: You're just like probably I get tired and then I just.
[01:51:59] Speaker B: Yeah, to be fair, we were caught up in the. Because Red hot Running James's were remote this week. We were caught up in the AWS meltdown of 2025 where whatever was going on with the web today impacted our recording suite. So we got a pretty late start tonight. But now it's over. So Bone can go to bed.
[01:52:20] Speaker E: Yeah.
Yeah. Good night, guys. Bon appetit.
[01:52:25] Speaker B: And don't just be a part of the problem. Be the whole damn problem.
[01:52:29] Speaker A: And only, only you can prevent river fires.
[01:52:33] Speaker B: Burning river sportscast.
[01:52:35] Speaker D: Burning river sports.
[01:52:38] Speaker B: Burning the rivers.
[01:52:41] Speaker A: Rolling, rolling, rolling on a river.
[01:52:45] Speaker B: I feel like we sing this song every time.
[01:52:47] Speaker A: I don't. We had one earlier and I can't remember what we sang.
[01:52:49] Speaker E: Give me back the filet fish.
[01:52:51] Speaker A: Give me, give me that fish.
[01:52:53] Speaker B: Bring me back the filet of fish. Give me that fish.
[01:53:00] Speaker A: Good night, Cleveland.
[01:53:01] Speaker B: Good night, Cleveland.
[01:53:02] Speaker E: Good night.
[01:53:02] Speaker B: Actor.
[01:53:03] Speaker A: Quiet on set.
[01:53:04] Speaker B: I now have two loves in my life.
[01:53:08] Speaker A: Big city living and a voodoo woman named Phyllis. I didn't think we'd be getting into Brad Pitt's ass.
[01:53:17] Speaker B: I can't even say I didn't think we'd be getting into Brad Pitt's ass. Yes.
[01:53:21] Speaker A: Yeah. Didn't think we'd get in there.
[01:53:23] Speaker B: We talk a lot of analingus on this show.
[01:53:26] Speaker A: So put your right foot in and take your right foot out. Then put your right foot in and shut the hell up. Because it's not time for the hokey pokey. It's time for the burning river Sports Cat Motorboat.
[01:53:37] Speaker D: You play the motorboat.
[01:53:40] Speaker B: You motorboat. Son of a. You old seal. Are you. You know, I was thinking during that interview.
[01:53:44] Speaker A: What? What were you think? Nothing. Because you don't have thoughts cuz you're a brainless idiot.
[01:53:49] Speaker D: Wow.
[01:53:50] Speaker B: My name is Utred.
[01:53:51] Speaker A: Son of Utred, by the way. I want my foreskin back. It doesn't matter what you think.
[01:53:56] Speaker B: Women's Guide to To Anal Sex and it was the second edition. Who makes second edition?
[01:54:02] Speaker E: The weather outside is weather.
[01:54:04] Speaker A: The other one. The finger. The finger Eating Food fingers.
[01:54:07] Speaker B: Oh my God. My ass is full of he Everywhere.
[01:54:13] Speaker E: Yes.
[01:54:13] Speaker B: Ejaculate all over my body and my genitals.
[01:54:15] Speaker E: Yes.
[01:54:16] Speaker A: Oh no.
[01:54:17] Speaker B: We suck again.
[01:54:19] Speaker E: You don't need fundamentals when you got heart.
[01:54:22] Speaker B: And Jesus. And Jesus.
[01:54:23] Speaker E: That's right.
[01:54:24] Speaker A: Touchdown number one. What do you mean funny? Funny how?
[01:54:27] Speaker B: How am I funny?
[01:54:28] Speaker A: It's going down. I'm yelling. Timber.
[01:54:32] Speaker B: Godamn cat.
[01:54:33] Speaker A: Should we start a meat podcast? Like, like, like, like the meat pod. Pod Slow roasted.
[01:54:42] Speaker D: The leads are weak. The leads are weak.
Leads are weak.
[01:54:47] Speaker B: You're weak. That we should send a team of oil court drillers, Allah Armageddon to Mars to have them access the newly discovered reservoirs of water trap 7 to 12 miles under the surface that when released will cover the entirety of everything on the planet. Less than a mile high.
[01:54:57] Speaker A: All I do is win, win, win, no matter what.
[01:54:59] Speaker B: Erroneous.
[01:55:00] Speaker A: Erroneous on both counts.
[01:55:02] Speaker B: Oh Lord.
[01:55:02] Speaker A: I mean, when I. Last year, when I won and went home, you know, my wife's pants hit the ground.
[01:55:07] Speaker B: Wow.
[01:55:07] Speaker A: But damn.
[01:55:08] Speaker B: I'm sorry I hijacked your segment for a second to do some good podcasting.
[01:55:13] Speaker A: You know why, mister?
[01:55:15] Speaker B: Because you drove a Hyundai to get here tonight.
[01:55:17] Speaker A: I drove an $80,000 BMW.
[01:55:20] Speaker D: That's my name.
[01:55:22] Speaker A: I think we've officially lost all of our more conservative viewers, so I don't think they want to listen any longer.
[01:55:28] Speaker C: This is, this is just.
[01:55:29] Speaker E: It's mother Nature.
[01:55:30] Speaker A: I live my life a quarter mile at a time.
[01:55:33] Speaker B: Where's logo girl when you need her? I desperately want to make love to this cheese girl. We need cheese girl now. Down goes Anderson. Down goes Anderson. Who's canceled now?
[01:55:43] Speaker C: Who's canceled now?
[01:55:45] Speaker A: Probably me.
[01:55:45] Speaker B: You making it for the fat people.
[01:55:48] Speaker A: I'm not just you.
[01:55:50] Speaker B: We're a whole race basically.
[01:55:53] Speaker A: No way. You just straight. Just finger bang their salad. What savior.
[01:55:59] Speaker E: You first get shocked and then you get the shocker.
[01:56:04] Speaker D: You like to see almost naked.
[01:56:05] Speaker A: That's cool, man.
[01:56:06] Speaker E: Whatever. No, no, no, no, no.
[01:56:08] Speaker A: Most people like they're driving along and they're like in between meals, like, I'm a little hungry.
[01:56:12] Speaker B: I'm going to have a granola bar.
[01:56:13] Speaker A: And he's like, I need a cheeseburger.
[01:56:16] Speaker B: Are you not entertained?
Are you not entertained?
This is not why you were here.
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