BRS 125 - Week 7 Preview: Filet-O-Fish

[00:00:05] Speaker A: Topath Distillery Topath Distillery an award winning craft distillery located in Akron, Ohio. Topaz Distillery focuses on high quality spirits carefully made in small batches. Topaz lineup includes an ultra smooth award winning premium vodka, a Caribbean style silver rum, a rich full flavored spiced rum, three different gin offerings and two award winning bourbon selections. Towpath Distillery now available throughout Northern Ohio and Columbus. Visit topath-distillery.com to place your order online or find an OHLQ retailer near you. Topath Distillery Handcrafted, award winning small batch, Local and family owned. [00:01:11] Speaker B: It's time time for the Burning River Sportscast. Serious question. Are the Browns intentionally bad? Seriously though, are they tanking? And if they are tanking, what or whom are they tanking for? Is there another explanation why you would let little coconut throw the ball 52 in a game? We keep hearing that there's a plan for these guys mapped out to the absolute practice rep for their development. Was 52 pass attempts a part of the plan? If it is, you probably need a new plan. [00:01:44] Speaker A: Or is this the plan? [00:01:46] Speaker B: This is just a throwaway year and the plan is to get a top three pick, get their guy, struggle through next year. So I guess that makes next year a throwaway year two and then compete in 2027. Is that what this front office is banking on? Are you, are you okay with that? Are we comfortable watching shit football for the next two years for the hope of maybe being competitive down the road? Seriously though, is there any other explanation for what's going on here? We'll break it all down for you next on the Burning River Sportscast. [00:02:21] Speaker C: The offense is just ass. [00:02:24] Speaker B: We went soft. We got soft on you. Ball is Kevin strikes again. [00:02:30] Speaker A: I wanted to talk to you guys a little bit about Andrew Barry and how shitty he is. [00:02:33] Speaker D: He's the worst. [00:02:34] Speaker A: Oh, he's terrible, Jerry. Judy would have found a way to drop that twice. [00:02:37] Speaker B: Yes. [00:02:39] Speaker A: Be careful. People are out there cutting testicles. Single testicles. [00:02:42] Speaker D: It is dangerous around here. [00:02:43] Speaker B: Lassary the sack. [00:02:44] Speaker A: So when it comes to our trip around the NFL, just like Javeris Ward, we out, we out. You guys are down by Miami. How much booger sugar is he snorting on a day on a weekly basis? [00:02:56] Speaker E: You know, it's interesting watching him, to be quite honest. [00:02:59] Speaker C: I don't know. [00:03:00] Speaker E: I thought the guy got sober recently, to be honest with you. [00:03:02] Speaker B: But CTE is serious. But Tuatagava Loa doesn't think so. [00:03:06] Speaker A: Little lovely. [00:03:11] Speaker B: Fish whacking. Fortunately for the female, much like intercourse with Ronnie, it is brief, typically lasting only a few seconds. Welcome in to the Burning River Sportscast presented by the fine folks at Tap It Media. I'm Kenny Thunder. My partner today. He's u and more communicable than genital warts and there is no cure. He's red hot Ronnie jams. [00:03:39] Speaker A: Thank you. [00:03:39] Speaker B: On the board today. He's harder than dragon forces through the fire and the flames on expert. He's the big bone man. Bone. What would you do if your wife started smoking? [00:03:50] Speaker D: Get her the patch. [00:03:51] Speaker B: You're thinking. Think about too much. Just slow down and use some lube. Back to red eye. Where can our listeners find the dopest dope they ever heard on a podcast? The number one football podcast and all the good pods as well is the unofficial podcast of Cleveland Browns backers everywhere. [00:04:07] Speaker A: And the official podcast of some Cleveland Browns backers. Somewhere you find our podcast or every podcast talking Apple podcast, Spotify, Stitch or Amazon Music, YouTube Music, Pandora, iHeartRadio podcast, Castro GoodPods where you're number one ranked football podcast and so many more. And leave a review on your preferred podcast app of choice. This is the best way you can help us grow. We want to keep getting better, keep getting bigger, doing big things. Don't forget to subscribe on YouTube, the only place you can find our video podcast. And check us out on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok. Our handle for all those socials at BurningOver Sportscast. And we're on X as well at the handle @burningoverpod. While you're at, check out our merch www.thetappenmedia.com backslash shop. All kinds of stuff in there. But on today's show, this is what you can look forward to. We got hot takes from the Hot take hotline. Browns news so far this week. We'll probably talk a little bit more just Browns in general. We got some topics we want to get to tonight. More messages from macho fan and brownstronaut division roundup and King of the north with John Hughes. An interview with another brownsbackers chapter this week, the Fort Lauderdale Brownsbackers. And of course, the week seven preview for the game against the Dolphins. Now listen, I like telling a joke. Last week that was nice. I don't tell many jokes. You're not very funny. So I'm going to. I'm going to tell another one this week. Here goes. Okay. People always tell me I'm condescending. [00:05:20] Speaker D: Why? [00:05:21] Speaker A: That means I talk down to people. [00:05:26] Speaker B: Is this a joke? This is why you don't tell jokes. [00:05:29] Speaker A: I don't tell them I was Being condescending. Do you get it? You get it? Yeah. I don't know. Let's go. Let's get. [00:05:34] Speaker B: I still don't get it. [00:05:39] Speaker A: I have a bunch of idiots around here. Let's get things started with the burger news story of the week. [00:05:54] Speaker B: I feel like I'm missing a part of the joke. [00:05:56] Speaker A: No, you're not. You're just an idiot. All right. Burning news story of the week. This weekend, a warrant was issued for a woman accused of cutting man's testicle during break in. [00:06:08] Speaker B: Ow. [00:06:09] Speaker A: Let me read the story to you. I'm just gonna read it to you. An arrest warrant has been issued for an Ohio woman accused of breaking into the home of a man she knows and cutting one of his testicles. [00:06:21] Speaker D: Just one. [00:06:22] Speaker A: Just. Yeah. Janita Hopings, 45, is charged with felonious assault and aggravated burglary. Charging records allege on Tuesday, Hoping's forced. Forcefully kicked open the front door to the Toledo home of a man she knows and went in without permission. The victim told investigators he heard someone break in and ran downstairs to see who it was. That'd be my first choice. [00:06:45] Speaker F: Let me. [00:06:46] Speaker A: Let me. Let me run straight downstairs to see what's happening. He did not have clothes on it. The affidavit alleges Hoping's assaulted the man by cutting his testicle sack with an unknown instrument, causing it to be clearly exposed. As a result of the laceration, he needed medical treatment at the. The hospital. On Wednesday, court records said, police issued a warrant for Hoping's arrest. End of story. [00:07:11] Speaker B: I feel like I've heard people threaten to cut. Cut your peter off. I've never heard someone just. I'm gonna slice your ball. [00:07:21] Speaker A: I'm gonna. I'm gonna make a. [00:07:22] Speaker B: Just one testicle, not both. [00:07:24] Speaker A: I'm gonna make a. Not very severe laceration on your testicle. [00:07:29] Speaker B: I'm gonna cut one testicle, not both. And I'm not cutting them off. I'm just cutting them. [00:07:34] Speaker D: Her. Her aim was. Must have been really good. I imagine this guy was trying to defend himself. [00:07:41] Speaker B: That would take some precision. Yeah. [00:07:42] Speaker A: Like, imagine this guy moving around and she just went, there. [00:07:45] Speaker D: Got it. [00:07:46] Speaker A: Got him. [00:07:47] Speaker B: I think how the story says that the testicle was visible. Just cut it just enough to be visible. [00:07:52] Speaker A: Well, yeah, I just. She cut open the sack. [00:07:54] Speaker B: She just. [00:07:54] Speaker A: She didn't cut anything off. She just cut it open so that you could see just one testicle. Not a big enough hole for both testicles. Just. Just a big enough slice to. So you could. [00:08:04] Speaker B: What are we doing here? [00:08:05] Speaker A: I Don't know. Why is this a story? [00:08:07] Speaker D: That's the news, guys. [00:08:09] Speaker A: In case you didn't get your news this week, we brought it for you. [00:08:12] Speaker B: I just love that it was like a literal. It was like a Cleveland local news story. It came from CBS 19. [00:08:17] Speaker A: Yeah. The headline is literally warrant issued for woman accused of cutting man's testicle during break in. I like her mug shot. She's just smiling like this. [00:08:29] Speaker B: I mean, I'd be proud of that. [00:08:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:31] Speaker B: She was like, that takes some skill. [00:08:33] Speaker A: I broke in. I cut this motherfucker's testicle. [00:08:39] Speaker B: What are you doing in the clink? A cut testicle. Both testicles. No. Just cut it off. No, just. [00:08:45] Speaker A: My only question is they left out whether it was the left or right. And this matters because that's fair. Yeah. [00:08:50] Speaker B: One could be bigger than the other, right? [00:08:51] Speaker A: So congratulations on cutting a testicle. I guess. I don't know. What do I do with this story? [00:08:58] Speaker B: Probably need to move on. [00:08:59] Speaker A: All right, one more thing. Before we get to the Browns, let me remind you to call the Burning River Sportscast. Don't forget to leave your hot takes on the hot take hotline. [00:09:07] Speaker B: We want hot takes. [00:09:09] Speaker A: We want hot take. We got a few hot takes. [00:09:11] Speaker B: The hot takes. [00:09:11] Speaker A: What are our hot takes? Let's listen to the hot takes. Bone, you want to hear the hot takes? I'll listen as long as Bone's listening. [00:09:20] Speaker C: You know what? [00:09:21] Speaker B: It's unbelievable. [00:09:22] Speaker C: I remember your number every single week because I call in every single week. This is Bobby from the Browns, backers of North Jersey, and Timmy. I'm here with Timmy. I don't know what to say. I think it's time for a, like, a massive, massive overhaul. I think Stefanski, by the time you read this call or listen to this call, I think Stefansky will be gone. I think the Dylan Gabriel experiment is probably close to over. Probably time to put in Shador Sanders. I. The defense, I mean, the offense is just ass. It is so, so bad. It is. It's. We can't watch it anymore. We cannot watch it anymore. It's like I'm struggling, struggling so hard to keep this club together week in and week out. [00:10:29] Speaker E: We had. [00:10:31] Speaker C: It was on national TV this week, and somehow we had 38 people there, which is mind boggling to me. But I have to keep it together. Somehow, some way, this team has to do something to get the people to come get us excited about something. Please get us excited about something. Cause right now it's not very exciting. Timmy. I mean, yeah, piggyback off My dad. That was embarrassing. [00:11:11] Speaker D: Aaron Rodgers is. [00:11:13] Speaker C: I know you guys think I'm ageist. I think everyone's fucking old, but I just think he's old and they should have been better. [00:11:24] Speaker D: Quinte. [00:11:24] Speaker C: Sean, what happened to Quintean? That was last week. He didn't do anything this week. And, yeah, I think that it's time for Shore, Sanders and maybe a change of coaching. That's my opinion. I'm probably going to get roasted for it by you guys. [00:11:46] Speaker B: Peace out. [00:11:46] Speaker C: From the Brownsbacks of North Jersey. Have a good week, gentlemen. On to next week against the Dolphins. [00:11:54] Speaker B: Let's go. [00:11:56] Speaker A: All right, so. So obviously we love our friends from the North Jersey Brownsbackers or Brownsbackers of North Jersey. I apologize. [00:12:02] Speaker B: Yeah. Get their name right at least before you roast them. [00:12:04] Speaker A: I'm not going to roast them. I just want to start by saying there was a lot of pain. An angry Bobby's voice, and he's a. He's a. He's a Browns backers chapter president. [00:12:14] Speaker B: Sounded a little bit like a broken man. [00:12:16] Speaker A: Yeah, I. I almost shed a tear for him this week because I just. I feel really bad. I mean, that's what they're all going through right now. We love our Browns backers friends. I mean, we're. That's why we're the unofficial podcast of Cleveland Brown backers everywhere. But, yeah, I mean, their. Their job is difficult right now. You have a team like this that seems like they've lost all interest in even trying to compete to win games. And you're tasked with getting fans out every week to the bars to support the bars that agree to be your viewing location. And it's tough. I mean, it's a really hard job. It's a thankless job. It's a hard job. [00:12:55] Speaker B: Well, it's a huge sacrifice of your own personal time and effort and energy that goes into organizing these clubs and activities and for the team to show up and look like they don't care. [00:13:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:05] Speaker B: And then you have dwindling attendance to these events. It's like, why do I keep doing this? [00:13:09] Speaker A: Yeah. So I just wanted to start with that. Like, I feel for you, Bobby. Stay angry. [00:13:16] Speaker B: Stay angry. [00:13:17] Speaker A: Keep up the good fight and keep doing what you're doing. I think the biggest thing is especially your members that are regulars. I know there's kind of an influx every week no matter where you're at because of people traveling or whatever the case may be. But your regulars know and appreciate everything you're doing for that club. [00:13:35] Speaker B: This is getting way too emotional. [00:13:36] Speaker A: No I just had to start there. [00:13:38] Speaker B: I'm getting there. [00:13:38] Speaker A: Let me go. [00:13:39] Speaker B: Can we talk about the takes? [00:13:42] Speaker A: The one thing I was gonna say to Bobby that was gonna probably make him feel worse is you said, we cannot watch this anymore. Well, strap in, buddy, because you got 10 more games at least, if not the next two years, as you mentioned in your open. So we've just, We've only just begun to leave. Yeah. All right. But, yeah, we really have only just begun. We're not even halfway through this season. [00:14:11] Speaker B: No, it's gonna be a long year. So going back to the take. So unbelievably optimistic take, though, that Stefanski would be on his way out already. I love the idea. [00:14:22] Speaker A: You're silly. You're silly, Bobby. [00:14:23] Speaker B: I'm totally, I'm totally with you. I think they should have made a change two years ago, but that's me. And also unbelievably optimistic that you believe that we're near the end of this Dylan Gabriel experiment, because. No, that's Stefanski's guy. As long as Stefanski's in seat, I think we're going to continue to see DG for as long as they can. [00:14:42] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:14:42] Speaker B: As long as they can stave off the Cleveland media and not start getting questions asked directly to guys like Jimmy about why Shador hasn't seen the field. Like, this thing is going to continue to just perpetuate itself until, mind you, Dylan starts throwing in. [00:14:58] Speaker A: We'll get further into this later in the episode, but Dylan Gabriel was their number two ranked quarterback behind Cam Ward. [00:15:05] Speaker B: The only organization that had him ranked it. [00:15:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:07] Speaker B: That high. [00:15:08] Speaker A: So we're nowhere near seeing the end of him. And then what else was in there? [00:15:13] Speaker B: Timmy. [00:15:14] Speaker A: Timmy with his Quinn, Shawn take. He got 12 carries, man. [00:15:18] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what happened. [00:15:20] Speaker A: You can't be very good when you get 12 carries. [00:15:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:23] Speaker A: I can't believe that's not even enough to like, like, break one. Like, you got 12 carries. [00:15:28] Speaker B: Yeah. Poor play calling led to, to that. [00:15:31] Speaker A: We were down 9. 9 to nothing or 9 to 3. At one point, we abandoned the run. We said, absolutely, we can't do this anymore. [00:15:37] Speaker B: So I like that he called out my Aegis take. [00:15:41] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you are. [00:15:44] Speaker B: We love you, Timmy. [00:15:45] Speaker F: I was, I wasn't. [00:15:46] Speaker B: I didn't mean any harm. [00:15:47] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I don't got anything else for these guys. I, I, I've roasted them enough. They know. [00:15:55] Speaker B: Do you think that's why Bobby D is so broken? [00:15:59] Speaker A: He was like, I sound like I'm upset because it's hard to put a good, good week together for the Browns backers, but really it's because I'm afraid to say anything. [00:16:07] Speaker B: Several weeks of getting. [00:16:08] Speaker A: Yeah, Ronnie Jams will shit on me. You got another take? Yeah, let's hear another one. Like I said, Browns. The. The Browns backers of North Jersey. We didn't go hard this week because we didn't want to roast you. Too bad, man. [00:16:22] Speaker B: We went soft. We got soft on you. [00:16:24] Speaker A: Hashtag flacid. [00:16:26] Speaker C: I hate bringing up the God dang pass, but holy cow, what could we have done with those three number one picks that we gave up for that? Oh, it is as bad as, oh, 1 in 31. It is that bad right now. Holy cow. I don't know how we get out of this. It's just a debacle right now. And I can't get over the fact that we gave up three number one picks for a son of a gun that is not ever going to do a damn thing for us. And that is on you, Gas station Jimmy. I'm done with sucks. Now get out of it. Get your God dang dumb filled and freaking. Find us a coach that can freaking at least inspire people. Inspire. Because that doesn't happen with our current head coach. Inspire. Inspire. That's all it takes. A little bit of inspiration. Because it doesn't exist with this football team right now and I'm done with it. Oh, by the way, another 150 people show up at Stoney's in the mile high city to watch this football team. We are freaking amazing, Sam, and we deserve better. Make it happen. Gas station. Mile high. 52, 80. Go Browns. [00:18:16] Speaker A: This is the most depressing hot take hotline ever. Maybe it was a mistake setting this thing up. A couple things here. We might have to edit that. Listen, our. Our friends takes in no way reflect the values or whatever you want to say of tapping media. That's my best disclaimer I got. But listen, Cliff, we feel it. We understand. We know. But all you people told us we were crazy. And I'm throwing pretty much all of our Browns backers friends in there, too. We had to be cautiously optimistic with everybody. Everything. That's actually a phrase that I use, so I'll throw myself under the bus. I was cautiously optimistic with desean Watson. Yeah, I mean, it didn't. It didn't. It didn't work. It feels bad. It feels real bad. And it does suck bringing up the past, but it's going to keep getting brought up because there's a boy down south that's Just doing great things with his team that keeps on winning and winning and winning and winning and being an MVP conversation. So, yes, it feels bad. [00:19:19] Speaker B: And I don't mind living in the past because I was the original Baker, bro. So you're the guy. I'm the guy. [00:19:25] Speaker A: You started the whole group. [00:19:26] Speaker B: I've been trying to tell everyone since he was in Cleveland that the guy was pretty good, and no one wanted to hear it then, so. [00:19:33] Speaker A: No. And I will say this. We've talked about this. We're actually going to talk about this a little bit more, I think, at some point, possibly even today. Kenny, you know, you talked about Jimmy making the call for Deshaun Watson. Do you. What are your thoughts on that? Or do you want to save this for us? [00:19:51] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll save that. We're going to talk about it. But look, I think, honestly, like, I just think we're all in that same boat. I think that that message on the hot take hotline was exactly how all Browns fans are feeling right now, which is just sad. In the dumps. [00:20:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:08] Speaker B: Like, there's no explanation for it. There's no, you know, there's no redeeming. [00:20:12] Speaker A: Qualities of this team right now. [00:20:14] Speaker B: Have you ever seen a helicopter crash? You know, kind of goes into that flat spin. Like we're. We're in the spin right now. Like, there's no. [00:20:20] Speaker A: It's just inevitable. [00:20:21] Speaker B: There's no coming out of it. You can't turn the prop back on. You're just going to continue to fall like a rock to the ground until Jimmy finally does do something. [00:20:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:30] Speaker B: So here we are. [00:20:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Feels. Feels real bad. [00:20:35] Speaker B: And dear boy Bobby d, we got 10 more weeks of this show, so enjoy it. [00:20:40] Speaker A: It's sad that that's the state of the Browns right now. The most exciting thing we can look forward to in the next 10 weeks, next 11 weeks, because we've got a buy in there is Kevin Stefanski getting fired. Because it's probably going to happen at some point if they continue to lose like they are. [00:20:53] Speaker B: Is it, though? [00:20:54] Speaker A: Is it? I mean, I. I would argue it has to. [00:20:57] Speaker B: Is. Is it going to happen? [00:20:58] Speaker A: I think it will if this is. [00:20:59] Speaker B: All part of the plan. [00:21:01] Speaker C: Right. [00:21:01] Speaker D: That's kind of where I'm at. I think it's all part of the plan. [00:21:04] Speaker B: I mean, look, none of us thought this team was going to be good this year. Well, outside of you and bowling, that picked him above.500. But did we go back and look at that? [00:21:11] Speaker A: I think I had him one game under.500. [00:21:13] Speaker B: Either way we all anticipated this team was going to struggle this year. So if we knew the team was going to win four or five games, can you fire the coach for winning four or five games? Say it's three games. Can you fire him for winning three games on any year you thought he was going to win four or five with without the quarterback that you, that you think you need to your point. [00:21:31] Speaker A: It all depends on what was talked about in house and what the quote unquote plan was. I'll give a what the plan was. Whatever the this is, this ain't working. I mean, are there something new? [00:21:41] Speaker B: I mean, are there contingencies on that? If there was some kind of verbal agreement, they're like, look, I know we, you know, the deck is stacked against you and you're probably not gonna win a lot this year. [00:21:49] Speaker A: I feel like there has to be. Right? [00:21:50] Speaker B: You have to say contingency to say like, we're okay with you losing. [00:21:53] Speaker A: If you guys like ass every week, then we got to make a move. [00:21:57] Speaker B: And there's zero improvement and zero like linear progression towards, hey, the units. You know, you can say the special teams is getting better, the defense is getting better, the offense is getting better and we're just not there yet. But you lost those games. That's one thing to look bad. As bad as they have every week, to the point where people are comparing this to 1 in 31 bad. Yeah, like, is that enough? [00:22:19] Speaker A: At some point, at some point you, you had like our hand is forced, like we have to fire you just for optics like this. [00:22:27] Speaker B: But he's the two time coach of the year. [00:22:30] Speaker A: Don't get me started with all these fucking douches online that argue this shit with me. [00:22:34] Speaker B: I, you know, we were talking today. I truly am of the belief now that Joe Flacco is the worst thing that's ever happened to the Cleveland Browns. As much as we're on the hot. [00:22:46] Speaker A: Take hotline, this is a hot take. Please expand. [00:22:48] Speaker B: As much as we fondly remember the glory days of Joe, the legend of. [00:22:53] Speaker A: Cleveland Browns quarterback Joe Flacco. [00:22:56] Speaker B: You know, if it weren't for Joe Flacco, we could have ended the Stefanski nightmare a year or two ago. Yeah, but he bought him extra time by squeezing him playoffs. [00:23:07] Speaker A: Second coach of the year. This. [00:23:07] Speaker B: Oh man, it's the worst thing that could have happened. [00:23:11] Speaker A: People forget too, that year. Like, like we've talked about it a lot because we know that Kevin Stefanski, Stefanik is not a good coach. I apologize. I've used his name properly way Too many times today. Stefanik's not a good. So we know that, and we've talked about this quite a bit, that Joe Flacco won him the second coach of the year award by playing absolutely out of his mind. He hasn't played that way for. In years before that and years since. And so, yeah, I mean, I think you're onto something here. As much as that sucks to say, I think he might be the worst thing that ever happened to the Browns. [00:23:44] Speaker D: Besides DeSean Watson. [00:23:45] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, where I was going with this was. Yeah, besides desean Watson. [00:23:48] Speaker B: Where I was going black is worse. He's worse than desean. [00:23:50] Speaker A: Where I was going with this, though, is people talk about that year, and it is great to remember the legend of Cleveland Browns quarterback Joe Flacco, the first iteration of it in the playoff game. He was ass. He came back down to earth after those six games. It was like the NFL finally got some tape on him. They were like, let's put. Put old Joe back in his place. [00:24:10] Speaker B: Well, and just again, if they had not had Joe Flacco to win those games down the stretch, we wouldn't even be having this conversation today, right? [00:24:17] Speaker A: No. [00:24:17] Speaker B: We'd be talking about Mike Vrable. Vrabel and this team being 5 and 1. [00:24:21] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:24:23] Speaker A: Alternate universes are so much better than this one. I wish I lived in one of them. When it comes to football, that's a good hot take to finish the hot take hotline on. [00:24:33] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:24:33] Speaker B: So I guess call the hot take hotline. [00:24:35] Speaker A: Let us know if you think Joe Flacco is the worst thing that ever happened to the Cleveland Browns besides Deshaun Watson. [00:24:39] Speaker B: Yeah. We want hot takes. [00:24:41] Speaker A: We want hot takes. We want hot takes. 3,3022-7808-1330-2278, 0811-330227-80813-302278, 081- call now. We're not standing by, but we will take those calls, put them on air, and sometimes we won't roast you. If you're feeling sad enough and I feel bad enough for you, I won't roast you. [00:24:59] Speaker B: Call us now or we'll kick you in the jimmies right in the Jimmy's. [00:25:02] Speaker A: Speaking of hot takes, it's time for ticket with the macho fan. [00:25:13] Speaker C: Making the. [00:25:13] Speaker B: Trip up to the lakefront. And these dogs got a hankering for some dolphins. Yeah. So we're gonna fillet the fish and we're gonna take care of business. [00:25:24] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Let's go, friends. [00:25:27] Speaker B: Date. [00:25:35] Speaker A: The Macho fan is just so macho. [00:25:37] Speaker B: Macho dude. [00:25:38] Speaker A: He's a macho dude. [00:25:39] Speaker B: Dude. [00:25:40] Speaker A: I. That's. That feels disrespectful. [00:25:42] Speaker B: It does. [00:25:43] Speaker A: Yeah. Because he's macho fan. [00:25:45] Speaker B: I meant it with love. [00:25:46] Speaker A: Oh, okay. That's. That's nice of you. I guess we'll talk about the burger sports guys. Dog of the week. [00:25:55] Speaker B: You got to play tough people in the national football league. You got to be ready. And we got to be the dogs that we are every time we step on there on Sunday. And be ready to attack and don't stop until we're in that locker room. [00:26:09] Speaker A: Sorry, I need a sip of coffee. There. [00:26:11] Speaker B: Brilliant. [00:26:12] Speaker A: All right. We leave it up to our listeners and followers to determine the burning of our sportscast dog of the week. Each week we nominate on our live show Sunday nights a dog of the week candidate. And then they vote for it online on our socials. [00:26:23] Speaker D: Yeah, right there. [00:26:23] Speaker B: Do you have a stroke? [00:26:24] Speaker A: No. This week's nominees. [00:26:26] Speaker B: KENNY Harold Fannin Jr. You forgot who. [00:26:30] Speaker A: You nominated, didn't you? [00:26:32] Speaker B: Yeah, Bone. [00:26:34] Speaker A: Who'd you nominate? [00:26:35] Speaker D: Old Andre Schmidt. [00:26:37] Speaker A: And I nominated Devin Bush. And after the fan vote that was conducted today on our social, the. This week's burning sportscast dog of the week is. [00:26:46] Speaker B: Andre Schmidt. [00:26:48] Speaker A: I didn't wait long enough for you. [00:26:49] Speaker B: The kicker. [00:26:50] Speaker A: Ah, the kicker. The kicker got one. Yay. He's totally redeemed himself. [00:26:54] Speaker B: Has he, though? [00:26:55] Speaker D: This feels bad that he's our dog of the week. [00:26:58] Speaker A: He scored points. [00:27:00] Speaker D: Well, it wasn't like a game winning kick either. It was just like he scored some points. [00:27:03] Speaker B: He scored all the points. [00:27:04] Speaker A: All the points. All of them. He was 3 for 3 on field goals. That was it. That's all we had. [00:27:11] Speaker B: Is that good that our offensive highlight is three field goals? [00:27:15] Speaker A: No, no. This is the state of the browns. [00:27:17] Speaker B: Oh, the state of the browns is Ohio. [00:27:22] Speaker A: Okay. All right, Kenny, let's give something away. [00:27:26] Speaker B: Okay. What are we giving away? [00:27:27] Speaker A: All right. [00:27:28] Speaker B: If you haven't heard, if you haven't heard. Bird, bird, bird, bird is the word. Bird, bird, bird, bird is the word. Have you heard? [00:27:37] Speaker A: Bird is the word. [00:27:38] Speaker B: Bird is the word. Bird, bird is blue. Bird, bird. [00:27:43] Speaker A: Shut up. Shut up. We're doing a second giveaway this season in partnership with primetime sports and framing, we're giving away an autographed Miles Garrett game day poster. Hold it up, Kenny. With locations in Hartville, Streetsboro, Belton village, Great northern and Kent. Primetime sports and framing is easily accessible wherever you are in northeast Ohio. With the best selection, autograph collectibles and World class framing operation. They are your go to for officially licensed memorabilia, primetime sports and framing. [00:28:11] Speaker B: You name it, they frame it. [00:28:13] Speaker A: And the winner will be chosen from following the entry directions on our social media posts. You can earn 50 bonus entries by subscribing to our YouTube channel at Bernie River Sportscast. And if you don't have a YouTube account, make one because it only takes about five minutes. The entry period ends 10:26. And then when? Just before game time. I think an hour before kickoff is when the entry period ends and we'll announce the winner that night on our live show. [00:28:37] Speaker B: Five minutes. Is that all the longer it takes? [00:28:39] Speaker A: That's all it takes, huh? Yeah. Enter now and good luck. Let's get into some Browns news now. All right, so only one major story so far this week. Mike Tomlin called out the Browns front office for the Joe Flacco trade. When he was asked about it, what did he say exactly? Yeah, it was surprising to us, too. Trading. [00:29:07] Speaker D: I got it right here if you want to read it. [00:29:08] Speaker A: Yeah. Read the quote. [00:29:09] Speaker D: To be honest, it was shocking to me. Andrew Barry must be a lot smarter than me or us because it doesn't make sense to me to trade a quarterback that you think enough to make your opening day starter to a division opponent that's hurting in that area. But that's just my personal feelings. [00:29:25] Speaker B: Bowen finally pulled out a fact check. [00:29:26] Speaker A: He did it. [00:29:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:27] Speaker D: I love this quote. I already like Mike Tomlin. I know he's a Steelers coach, but I think he's awesome. Him saying that was just. I love it. [00:29:36] Speaker A: Not to plug a video that we did like four years ago, but there is a, there is a real or a tick tock or a short or whatever platform you're on out there where we compare Mike Tomlin and Kevin Stefanski. And it's not favorable for Kevin. It's not favorable to say it lightly for Kevin Stefanski. And again, this was like four years ago. So just saying. [00:29:57] Speaker B: Yeah, a lot of hate on that clip. [00:29:59] Speaker A: Actually, we did at the time. I bet if it pops up again now, people would be like, yeah, these guys are. [00:30:04] Speaker B: And it was kind of from both sides. Even Steelers fans are like, mike Thomas talks. [00:30:07] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:30:07] Speaker A: Brown fans were like, Kevin Stefanski's great. Oh, how time she. What's with quarterbacks not being able to hold on to the ball this week, dropping the balls? I don't know. Anyways, yeah, so he said that and then Kevin Stefanski was asked about it. And what did he say? [00:30:20] Speaker B: He said, no, I'm not going to comment on that. [00:30:23] Speaker A: Yeah, of course he's not, because he's. Ball is Kevin. [00:30:26] Speaker B: Ball is Kevin. Strikes again. [00:30:29] Speaker A: Just absolutely no balls on that guy. [00:30:31] Speaker D: No, I just love how he touched on like this. Everybody says, oh, yeah, they went to whatever Ivy League of schools. They're the smartest guys in the room. [00:30:39] Speaker A: This is what we say all the time. [00:30:40] Speaker D: Tomlin just hit it. You know, he just went right for it. [00:30:43] Speaker A: That's like the whole premise behind our show when we're talking about Kevin Stefanski is he just outsmarts everybody. [00:30:48] Speaker B: It's just Andrew Barrett must be a lot smarter than me. [00:30:52] Speaker A: Yeah. This is wild. [00:30:55] Speaker B: It doesn't make any sense, though, honestly. I mean, think about where we are. You trade your start, your day one starter to an in division rival, an in state rival. [00:31:03] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:31:04] Speaker B: Like, what are we doing? [00:31:05] Speaker D: Tomlin might also be just be like, dude, you maybe made it harder for us to win the division. [00:31:10] Speaker B: True. [00:31:10] Speaker D: Like, I don't know if Joe Burrow keeps him somewhat or not. Sorry, not Joe Burrow, but Joe Flacco keeps him somewhat competitive and Burrow comes back. [00:31:17] Speaker B: Yeah, Flacco's definitely an improvement over Browning. I think you saw that this week. I mean, Flacco didn't play bad this week. After three days of practice. [00:31:23] Speaker A: You know what he did as soon as he got to the Bengals? He scored more than 17. [00:31:26] Speaker B: More than 17 points. [00:31:27] Speaker A: Instantly. [00:31:27] Speaker B: Wasn't a lot more, but it was more. [00:31:29] Speaker A: He still did. We haven't done that in quite some time. [00:31:31] Speaker B: Time. Yeah. [00:31:33] Speaker D: Zach Taylor, the quarterback whisper. [00:31:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I. [00:31:36] Speaker B: Here we go. [00:31:38] Speaker A: I also like that Mike Tomlin, like, the. The Steelers are way ahead in the division right now. She's like, yeah, I'll let it fly. [00:31:44] Speaker B: I don't give a right, like, safety off. [00:31:46] Speaker A: Yeah. He's like, I'll say whatever the fuck I want. Come catch us, Brown. [00:31:49] Speaker D: My team plays for me. [00:31:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:31:51] Speaker B: Yeah. My team's winning. [00:31:52] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. I always do. But yeah. Speaking since we're done with Browns news for the week. So that's pretty much it. Speaking of Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Barry, I wanted to have a discussion here, and it's mostly because. Because we've shit all over Kevin Stefanik for quite some time. But we also, in the past, have gone a lot harder on Andrew Barry. And this season it feels like it's just Kevin Stefanski. Kevin Stefanik that's getting the hate from us. So I had to. I wanted to talk to you guys a little bit about Andrew Barry and how shitty he is. [00:32:21] Speaker D: He's the worst. [00:32:21] Speaker A: Oh, he's terrible. And I think it was just because we have a few rookie and the wool was pulling over my eyes and still is a little bit this season because we do have a few rookies. When he's in charge of managing the roster, we have a few rookies that are playing well. And so, you know, yeah, fans right now are not, you know, they're not talking too much shit on Andrew Barry right now, but really we should be because he's just as much to blame for this as Kevin Stefanik is. [00:32:49] Speaker B: 100. 100%. He owns blame here. And I think you're 100% right too, that people are all of a sudden giving him the benefit of the doubt because of this year's draft class. [00:33:00] Speaker A: Guilty. [00:33:01] Speaker B: Like I said, guilty of this year's draft class. So let's think about the guys that are playing really well right now. Quinshawn Judkins. He was on the COVID of NCAA Football 25. It took a lot of balls to pick that guy. Who knew he was going to be any good. Like, seriously. And then let's go back to the running back position. Dylan Sampson was. What's Tennessee? Sec. He was the SEC player of the year. [00:33:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:27] Speaker B: That's a real gamble. I wonder if those guys will be any good. [00:33:30] Speaker D: They might turn out. [00:33:32] Speaker B: You picked two of the best players in college football. It took no brains, no analytics, no draft grades, no anything. You could not have watched a game of college football last year and know those were two of the best players in the. In all of college football. [00:33:46] Speaker A: Right. And I'll add on to we do. Again, I was guilty of it because we have a few of these rookies playing well, the ones that were obvious that you mentioned. Carl Schwerzinger is the only ones that maybe wasn't Carson. I called him Carl Carson Schwezinger. [00:34:02] Speaker B: Know his name is so good. [00:34:03] Speaker A: But he's the. Maybe wasn't the obvious choice right there, but I mean it wasn't much of a much of much of a stretch to think he was going to be good. I mean he's. He was good in college too, so. [00:34:13] Speaker B: Well, but here and look, I like what he's done so far, but we're six games into this. I mean, let's wait and see what a real body of work looks like. Let's see if he can stay healthy. Like all these things play into the success of a draft class. You can't grade it after six weeks. [00:34:28] Speaker A: No, my point that I was going to make though is yeah, let's talk about this year's draft class. That's fine, that's fine. Because we talk about these, these three good picks, these three early good picks and they're all playing well. [00:34:38] Speaker B: And I'll throw Harold Fannin into the mix too, which is he's done well. But look, I don't think that, I think the Browns had an, oh, I don't want to say an unfair advantage, but a unique advantage to other teams because he played a Bowling Green. There were probably a lot of people here locally that live work in the area that had a book on Harold Fanning Jr. That just other people didn't have because it wasn't like he was the best player in college football, wasn't getting looks from all over, but people here locally knew have ties to that program like the Browns probably had more information on that guy than any other team in the NFL. [00:35:12] Speaker A: That's about a six minute drive from their training facility. And Berea. Yeah, no, there's that. And then also I want to say let's talk about this year's draft because they do, you know, everybody seems to be pointing to those, those players playing well, which. Okay, fine. And they say, well, maybe we don't talk about Andrew Barry as much, but this is a guy that's in charge of roster management. Going into the draft we had no offensive line, no receivers and we addressed none of it. [00:35:38] Speaker B: None of it. [00:35:39] Speaker A: Absolutely none of it. So again, I go back to this is a guy that, sure, there was a couple guys that seemingly so far in six games hit in this draft, but what the fuck have you been doing over the course of the last six years to the point where we are in this position to begin with, but then you choose not to address it whatsoever in the draft. [00:35:59] Speaker B: Let's pull back just a little bit. Let's think about the last two years. This conversation about. [00:36:03] Speaker A: Oh wait, hold on. By the way, he drafted two rookie quarterbacks. Like two quarterbacks. [00:36:07] Speaker B: We'll get to that in a second. Yeah, let's think about the last two years and think about, about the fact that where, where, where are we struggling right now is, is at quarterback. And this conversation about Mike Tomlin is super relevant here because you know, who hasn't struggled at quarterback to the point where it was costing them games and they couldn't score 17 points a week is the Pittsburgh Steelers who for the last two years went Russell Wilson, Justin Fields and now Aaron Rodgers. [00:36:34] Speaker A: And Aaron Rodgers. 45 year old Aaron Rodgers can say. [00:36:37] Speaker B: Whatever you want about all three of those guys. And I know Justin Fields is struggling in New York right now. And I know Aaron Rodgers is ancient and I know Russ is washed at this point, but you know what? The Steelers were over.500 last year. [00:36:49] Speaker A: They're going to be well over.500 this. [00:36:50] Speaker B: Year, both of those guys. And they're leading the division right now with a 41 year old Aaron Rodgers. No one is going. Well, gee, you know, if Pittsburgh just had a quarterback, all three of those guys were available for Andrew Barry to call. [00:37:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:03] Speaker B: At any time over the last two years. And here we sit with Dylan Gabriel at 5 foot 7 as your starting quarterback and we can't score 717 points a game. He's throwing the boys, spraying the ball 50 times all over the field. We can't complete a pass. All three of those guys were available for your GM to call. All it would have took was money and not a lot of it. [00:37:23] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, you go a step further and there's guys across the league that are in new places that are playing well. Danny Dimes is another one. [00:37:30] Speaker B: Sam Darnold's lighting it up. [00:37:31] Speaker A: Sam Darnold, like all these guys, like you could have. There was a lot of moves you could have made. You didn't make any of them. [00:37:38] Speaker B: You also kicked Baker out. God, the most damning of them all. You orchestrated the deshaun Watson. [00:37:45] Speaker A: And here's the thing. And I know I kind of started to get into it and I pulled back because I knew we were going to have this discussion today when we were in Hot take hotlining and Cliff mentioned Jimmy was the reason why Desean Watson was here. I 100% disagree. I am, I am probably one of the few Browns fans that. I don't think that has the medals as much as people think he does. I think that the Johnny Manziel move was his. And I think the only other major move that has been 100% his call since he's been the owner was Shador Sanders. I think he saw him sit there long enough and he was like, guys, go. Go pick him. Like, what are we doing? And hold on. I think that was. That was an Andrew Barry and Kevin Stefanik move. And I think. I think when we talked about it, you brought this up. You said, I think they sold that to Haslam. [00:38:40] Speaker D: Sure. [00:38:40] Speaker B: The desean Watson trade. [00:38:41] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:38:42] Speaker A: And I think that's what it was. I think that, that Andrew Barry saw a guy out there that originally when he started to get involved with the trade, he didn't think that it was going to take three first round draft picks and $230 million fully guaranteed to bring him here. And then they got into a situation. I think he thought, well, it got into deep, right? He got in too deep. I think he thought he could bring him here. He thought that would put them over the hump and he could get him here. Not. Not like that. And then when they got into discussions and some other teams were fighting them for it, and then Baker bailed, he was like, well, now we don't. This is our only move. We've got a fully guarantee this $230 million contract, give up three first round picks to get them, and here we are. And Stefanik was a guy that signed off on it because, yeah, I could work with that. How'd that work out for you? [00:39:28] Speaker B: Yeah, I would agree with you that I think. I think Jimmy probably learned his lesson the first time around with the Manziel move and the homeless guy and whatever else. Like, I think. I think from that point forward, he's made some additional mistakes. Right. He had the whole Freddy Kitchens thing and so, like. But I think since that time frame, Jimmy has intentionally tried to remove himself from those types of decisions to just not give the appearance that he is involved. I think he's tried to say, I'm going to hire football guys. Well, he didn't really hire football guys, Ivy League guys, but I'm going to hire my football guys and let them make football decisions, and I'm going to stay out of it unless absolutely necessary. I mean, ultimately, I own the team, so I make the decision decisions and I got to run them past me. But I think that he is letting them do that. So I do think that the desean move was a Stefanski Berry move. Barry did probably sell that to. To Jimmy to say, hey, here. Here's the guy where I think. I think we need to get to the next level. This is the guy I think we need. And. And then to your point, got in too deep because then they didn't have a quarterback. And I already sold this to the owner who's. Who's given me his blessing, so I better make it happen. [00:40:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:33] Speaker B: But I do think it brings up another interesting point, which I know you started to talk about it, but I do think my question is just why did the Browns draft Shador Sanders? [00:40:43] Speaker A: Before we go there and we'll answer this question, I have one more thing to say about Jimmy. [00:40:47] Speaker B: Go on. [00:40:49] Speaker A: The dude's a billionaire. He owns countless businesses, and he has countless teams of people working underneath him. You think he gives a shit what the Browns are doing. You think he cares? He don't care. It's just another money making organization to him. [00:41:02] Speaker D: Him. [00:41:03] Speaker A: And, and here's the thing, it's probably not even his biggest money making organization. So he doesn't care. He. To your point, he hired those guys to do what they do and they came to him and said, we got this idea. And he said, I, that's what, that's your job. You guys figure that out. Go ahead. So I just, I think Browns fans give him too much credit that he has all this time between all these businesses that he's just going to sit here and meddle with the Browns. Like he doesn't care about the Brown Browns. [00:41:29] Speaker B: Well, and I think right now Jimmy is so locked and loaded in this whole stadium. [00:41:32] Speaker A: I mean, he cares about the stadium. [00:41:34] Speaker B: Because the stadium makes him part of the investment. [00:41:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:38] Speaker B: So I think up until. [00:41:38] Speaker A: Really, which we forgot that in the news. So go ahead. [00:41:40] Speaker B: I think about until just recently. Right. The city of Cleveland is now settled with Jimmy and he's going to pay them $100 million and we're going to go move forward. The Brook park thing. Yeah, Listen, I think he's been so engaged on that that when you think about the Browns as a business, that was his priority right now. It really hasn't been players in the draft or looking at people, but. [00:41:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:58] Speaker B: But anyway, I guess just to reiterate, I guess my question is, why did the Browns draft Shador Sanders, whose decision was, and why did they bring him here? [00:42:06] Speaker A: And to me, I know I just said he doesn't give a shit, but I think that was the only other, other move that he's made because I saw Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski's face when they drafted him, and they both looked miserable that they had to draft that guy. So to me, that's the only other move that came from the top. And I think it was simply just he's watching the draft unfold because again, he. I just said he doesn't care about the Browns. He cares enough about him that they're his business. And he's like, okay, I was watching the draft. I see this whole thing happening, like, guys, stop waiting. Go get him. [00:42:36] Speaker B: Well, and I guess that's my question, because then is it logical to be in the place that we're at right now? Because if my owner, who has intentionally removed himself from football operations, comes to me and says, draft this guy, don't you think there would be some level of urgency to get him on the field? This is. This is the guy That I report to. [00:42:57] Speaker A: No, my, my thoughts on this whole thing is it's, at this point, it goes back to, Jimmy tells these guys your football. Like, you guys do this thing, this is your job. And it's like a plausible deniability thing at this point, right? Like they, they said, okay, we'll draft him, that's fine. But what are all the reports that have come out of of Cleveland basically since they drafted him is he's not ready. Dylan Gabriel's head and shoulders above ahead of this guy. Dylan Gabriel's a supercompute processing information, and Shador Sanders is not. Like, he's just not there. He's not ready. Well, you know what's happened recently when their guy, the number two guy on the draft board behind Cam Ward, got in the game and his ass is. All of a sudden you start hearing these things come out from Brown's media. Oh, Shador Sanders looks really good. Oh, Shador Sanders is pretty good. And he's got a rocket arm. He, he's, he's, you know, really put in a lot of work. He's the hardest worker on the field. Like, all these positive things all the sudden start coming out from Brown's media. People like, and I'll call her out, I'll give a shit. Mary Kay Cabot, who literally says whatever the Browns tell her to say, she. [00:44:05] Speaker D: Writes a script or they write a. [00:44:07] Speaker A: Script for her, right? And, and she comes out and starts talking up Shador Sanders all of a sudden, well, there's a reason for it. It's because they realize, like, we're in trouble. Guys like, and they're scrambling at this point, they say, prepare the fans for this is basically what that is. Like, we're going to bring him in and we don't want everybody to shill over us and realize like, oh, you guys put him down. All camp. We don't forget. People don't forget. [00:44:28] Speaker B: People don't forget. [00:44:29] Speaker A: Like, that's what happens. And so this is the whole. I could be wrong. I don't know. I don't. I'm not inside the Browns organization, but this is what happened in my head. [00:44:38] Speaker B: I just, to me, I just can't escape from the fact that if my boss, when my boss calls me during the day at my day job, that becomes my first priority. Whatever else I'm doing, I generally will drop and make sure that that gets done first. So if my boss says, I like this guy and I want him here, the organization knows he's the top selling jersey. They know that the fans are clamoring to see him. And we also all know what we saw against Carolina, and I think it's hard to continue to make that argument. People also have been to training camp. Dylan Gabriel, by his own admission, is a bad practice player. So it's hard to continue to make, to continue to complete the narrative that he's so much farther head and shoulders above of Shador. The only thing that we can't see is whatever whiteboard sessions that are going on in there. [00:45:30] Speaker A: Yep. [00:45:31] Speaker B: So on the field and now the. [00:45:33] Speaker A: Product matching exactly what they saw in practice. [00:45:36] Speaker B: Yeah. So you combine all those things and then go back to, if Jimmy really made this pick, how is there not more urgency? And how have Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Barry not paid lip service to that pick? Again, going back to. If my boss calls me and tells me something, that becomes my priority. How are they not at least trying to in public make that pick seem legitimate and good? [00:46:00] Speaker A: Yeah. Bone, you got any thoughts on this? You're a thoughtful guy, so I want to. I want to hear it. I respect you. I don't respect Kenny, but I respect you. [00:46:07] Speaker D: I feel like it's almost. I just feel like it's plan they're dragging out. They're going to keep playing Dylan Gabriel for a couple more games. You know, everybody's going to lose attention because we're going to lose. We're going to keep losing and then they're going to say, oh, Shador is going to be our starter. Everybody's attention is going to be smack dab right back at Cleveland again. And we'll be relevant for a few weeks. I don't know how it'll do, but. And I think the plan this year is to lose and get our draft pick next year. I don't know. I think it's all kind of calculated. [00:46:34] Speaker A: I mean, honestly, I think the team was more plausible. [00:46:36] Speaker D: I think the team was flat this week. You could clearly see it in the defense this week, which you saw that last year. Game one in Dallas. Yep. And this was the first game where I was like, okay, the players, the team knows what's going on. They can see it and they're not playing anymore. [00:46:52] Speaker B: Yeah. To me that seems more plausible. [00:46:55] Speaker D: Is. [00:46:55] Speaker B: Is that I think this has been a mystery to Stefanski and Barry trying to figure it out. Which is not good if the guys in charge don't have a plan. But I think you can see the writing on the wall that there is no plan. Because why take Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett into camp if you knew by. [00:47:17] Speaker A: Week six, neither of them was going to be on the team. [00:47:19] Speaker B: Neither of those guys are going to be. Why were they taking reps from Dylan Gabriel and from Shador Sanders all training camp if the plan was to get both of those young guys on the field at some point? Which just tells me like they're just making it up on the fly. And I don't think Jimmy picked Shador. What I think happened is how many guys get drafted. There's seven rounds, 32 guys, 230 or so guys get drafted every year. The NFL scouts, GMs, guys like Andrew Barrett have draft grades on probably 700, a thousand guys coming out of college. Right. They spend months and months reviewing tape with scouts from all over the country and all over the different schools. And each guy that is in the draft has a draft grade. So whether they think Shador was a first round talent, a second round talent, a third round, if he wasn't any of those, he had a grade on their board. And if he was a third or fourth round grade. I think even if you don't want to take a guy on some level, if your profession is an NFL gm, you have to revert to some fundamentals. And I think in the draft, that fundamental is even if you don't have any idea what you're doing and you don't have a plan, you still look at your job and say, if I don't have a position gap to fill, the default is pick the best player available. And if you have a guy that has a second or third round grade that falls to the fifth round in a position of need, I think you have to take the guy. [00:48:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:58] Speaker B: And I think they did it, you know, biting their tongue, holding their breath, not wanting to do it, but knowing that as a fundamental of the job, this is a requirement. [00:49:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:09] Speaker B: And now they're. And now they're saddled with it. But I don't think that they've had a very good plan all along because they clearly thought Kenny Pickett or Joe Flacco was going to be here longer than they were. They thought Kenny Pickett maybe was going to be the day one starter. I think we heard all those things and we thought, there's no way Kenny Pickett is going to be the starter of this football team. And thank God a hamstring injury saved us from that. And then Joe Floyd, can I say. [00:49:33] Speaker A: Saved the day way too soon. [00:49:35] Speaker B: And now they are stuck. And now you're stuck in quarterback hell with no plan. [00:49:40] Speaker A: I mean, honestly, this conversation has brought up more Questions than answers. Because for me, like I said, I was of the thinking that it was Jimmy Haslam. And something you said actually cemented that, but I'll come back to that in a second, was that there's no plan right now. So that actually cemented it to me was like, for a moment anyways, like, oh, it had to have been Haslam. But then what? What? As you kept talking and kind of explaining your way, you know, the thinking process and all that, it made me come to think, like, these guys don't know football. They don't know shit. Like, they've proved that every single turn, they've proved that they don't know anything about football. So to me then it's like, no way. They really had no idea what they were doing through this whole thing. And here we are in a big mess because they didn't even stop to think, like, what actually will happen if we draft two quarterbacks here? And the answer is this. This is what happens. [00:50:38] Speaker B: My, my. The final point, just while we're complaining about Barry and Stefanski, is, you know, we keep talking about this offense and their inability to score, and we just want to. We want to like, walk around like the lights are off. Like we can't see that Kevin Sapanski is the problem. Alex Van Pelt, Ken Dorsey, Tommy Reese. Three coordinators in the last three years. Offense looks the same. [00:51:03] Speaker A: Looks exactly. [00:51:04] Speaker B: What's the common denominator? [00:51:06] Speaker A: Kevin Stefanik. Yeah. [00:51:08] Speaker D: You will play my offense. No matter your skill set, you will play it. [00:51:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:13] Speaker A: Yeah. Let's. Let's move along, boys. We could talk about this all night. Yeah. Let's get into division roundup. [00:51:31] Speaker D: All right. [00:51:32] Speaker A: So this week in the AFC North, Cincinnati lost to the Packers 27 18. Everybody was right there. Cincinnati's bad. But you know what Joe Flacco did? Scored 18 points, scored 18 points on two days practice. [00:51:44] Speaker B: Honestly, he looked. He looked pretty good. The. The touchdown throw he made to Jamar Chase at the end of the game was unbelievable. [00:51:50] Speaker A: That was the type of throws where he played lights out for six weeks with us. He was just like, I know my guy's better. I'm throwing it straight to. I'm throwing it up in the air. He's gonna go get it. [00:51:57] Speaker B: Amari Cooper, run under this and catch it. He went up and he probably thought, geez, it's nice to have a receiver because he. That was just a one on one. [00:52:05] Speaker A: He's like, Jerry Judy would have found a way to drop that twice. [00:52:07] Speaker B: Yes. And then bad it to the defender to get intercepted. Yeah, but as. As hard as Joe Flacco played in that game. [00:52:16] Speaker D: Hard. [00:52:17] Speaker B: As hard as Joe Flacco was in that game. That defense is just abs. I mean, that. The defense is what lost them that game. Flacco playing poorly. It was just that defense. [00:52:27] Speaker A: It's crazy to say this, but they're legitimately going to be back battling the Browns all year for the worst record in the AFC North. [00:52:33] Speaker B: I mean, Joe Flacco, like Joe Burrow, can cover up a little bit if he plays well, but not to the extent Joe Burrow can. [00:52:39] Speaker A: And the only difference between the Browns and the. And the Bengals, though, besides Cincinnati's in Kentucky. Well, yeah, besides that. And besides the fact that they have more wins than us, is they actually look like they're trying. They went and got Joe Flacco and said, this isn't working. We need to fix something. True. Meanwhile, we're over here just like, yeah, we accept. [00:52:57] Speaker B: Yeah, we got a five foot seven. [00:52:59] Speaker A: We scratch scored. We. We were averaging a little coconut. We were averaging like 13.2 points a game or whatever it was over the last 10. [00:53:08] Speaker B: So it went down. [00:53:09] Speaker A: So we scored nine. [00:53:10] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:53:12] Speaker A: But anyways, Baltimore got manhandled by the Rams 17 to three. [00:53:16] Speaker B: Man handled. [00:53:16] Speaker A: Everybody except for Big John was right in this one. Big John decided to go to roll with the Ravens knowing that Lamar was out, so. [00:53:24] Speaker B: Yeah, well, he. His whole thought was that Derek Henry was going to carry the load. The load. [00:53:29] Speaker A: He didn't carry anything. [00:53:30] Speaker B: Carry it. He got loaded. [00:53:32] Speaker A: That sounds sexual and not in a good way. [00:53:35] Speaker B: Lord got dumped on him. [00:53:37] Speaker A: And then Cleveland obviously lost to the Steelers in embarrassing fashion. I can't believe it happened. Like, we were all wrong on this. Except for you, Kenny. You. You went with, like, you know, your brain, and we went with our hearts. [00:53:50] Speaker B: I learned my lesson the week before. [00:53:51] Speaker A: Never to pick up. [00:53:52] Speaker D: That's a good point. [00:53:53] Speaker A: Yeah, we were all wrong there. I don't know what I was thinking. We haven't won in. In Pittsburgh, so. Since 2003. [00:53:57] Speaker B: So. Yeah, Owen's got to pick him at least one more time this year because he said he was. They were going to sweep the Steelers. [00:54:03] Speaker D: I won't do it. [00:54:04] Speaker B: I was like, you have to. [00:54:05] Speaker D: I will not. [00:54:06] Speaker A: He's like. He's like, the sweep's already gone. I don't have to stick to it. [00:54:09] Speaker D: Sweep's gone. [00:54:10] Speaker C: I don't. [00:54:10] Speaker D: I'm not picking it. [00:54:11] Speaker A: Yeah, fair change. [00:54:12] Speaker D: Your mind's done. [00:54:13] Speaker B: This is the Bernie river sports cast. You can't change your mind here. [00:54:16] Speaker A: Yeah, but so anyways, for the AFC north standings are as follows. Pittsburgh is on top at four and one. Cincinnati and Baltimore are tied at two and one and four. And then Cleveland right there at one and five. This. It just seems so familiar. [00:54:29] Speaker B: Would my mental health be better if my parents had raised me a Steelers fan? Yes. [00:54:33] Speaker A: 100%. Absolutely. [00:54:35] Speaker D: Anybody else? [00:54:35] Speaker A: Although they're just complaining about their coach. Even though they win the division or come in second every year, go to the playoffs, and Steelers fans are the worst. Yeah. But anyways, current king of the north standings. We'll come back to these later. Bones on top at 13 and 7. If I would have just went with my brain on this one, I would be tied with him. But instead, I'm one game back at 12 and 8. [00:54:55] Speaker B: Quit thinking with your dinky. [00:54:56] Speaker A: Yeah, Big John is 9 and 11 and Kenny making a comeback. [00:55:01] Speaker B: Don't call it a comeback. [00:55:02] Speaker A: 8 and 12. So he's almost right there with. With Big John. Big John's gonna feel real bad when he's got to get a Brazilian wax. [00:55:08] Speaker B: I can't wait to see Big John's taint. [00:55:09] Speaker A: Oh, man, he's. He doesn't realize, I don't think that we have to be in the room because we have to film his reaction. [00:55:15] Speaker B: John, go get a Brazilian wax and let it. [00:55:17] Speaker A: How was it like? No, we're not going to interview. [00:55:19] Speaker B: We're going to be in there with cameras. [00:55:21] Speaker A: Yeah. Bones is so excited. [00:55:23] Speaker D: I'm calling off that day. [00:55:26] Speaker A: But with that, let's take a quick trip around the NFL. Think we'd be talking about Big John's taint? This episode did you. [00:55:45] Speaker B: All right. [00:55:46] Speaker A: To start our trip around the NFL, we're going to talk about the only team that's worth worse than the Browns, and that's the jets. The jets fell to 06. Again, worse than the Browns. Justin Fields this week was 9 of 17 for 45 yards and took nine sacks for a net total of negative 10 passing yards. The jets would have been better off spiking the ball 26 times in this game. But just case anyone was was wondering, the Browns play the jets coming up in just a couple weeks in week nine, and I predict Miles Garrett will break the single season record for sacks in that game. Book it. Yeah, I know he's like 14 away, but he's going to get 14 in one week. [00:56:25] Speaker B: November 9th. [00:56:26] Speaker A: November 9th. [00:56:27] Speaker B: That is our Super Bowl. [00:56:28] Speaker A: Yeah. We might win a game, we might. [00:56:31] Speaker B: Lose a game, and that'll be embarrassing if we lose. [00:56:35] Speaker D: Hey, maybe that'll be shador's first game. [00:56:37] Speaker E: Game. [00:56:38] Speaker B: Don't. Don't tease me like that, mom. [00:56:40] Speaker A: If we lose and Stefanic still around at that point, that's the day like that. The next day he gets fired. He has to if they're owing whatever. But here's the deal. I. I know I told you this before too. If the jets make it to the Browns game and still haven't won a game, they are definitely winning that game. I'm absolutely picking the jets because they are for sure winning that game. [00:57:01] Speaker B: They're going to be desperate. [00:57:02] Speaker A: No question about. About it. But anyways, next up here, Brian Callahan becomes the first coaching casualty of the season. Later. [00:57:10] Speaker B: Dude. [00:57:10] Speaker A: Yeah, he's gone. Tennessee Titans couldn't take it anymore. They are also one in five, the only other team that has the same record as a Brown. So it's the Jets, Browns and Titans are the teams we're talking about right now. [00:57:20] Speaker B: So you know it's funny because we did the Tight Nut podcast a couple weeks ago. Remember he made fun of me for talking Titans and at the time I said. Because what they said was Brian Callahan had given up play calling duties and I was like this feels like a freak out move to me three weeks into the season with a rookie quarterback. But I guess. [00:57:37] Speaker A: Do you have a crystal ball over there? [00:57:38] Speaker B: Titans are just the, a mess of an organization. Just like the Browns. Two head coaches, two GMs in the last four years. Absolute dumpster fire in Nashville. [00:57:47] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, does this mean that the Browns can get Bill Callahan back? [00:57:51] Speaker B: I sure hope so. Yeah, we could really bring him back. [00:57:54] Speaker D: Yeah, bring Brian too. We'll give him a job. [00:57:57] Speaker A: I'm almost of the. [00:57:58] Speaker B: I'll let Brian call plays. [00:57:59] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm almost also almost have the thinking though, like don't do it right now though because if, if he's on the staff that means he won't be back next year when they clean house. [00:58:06] Speaker B: So whatever, man. I'll try anything at this point. Throw against the wall. [00:58:12] Speaker A: Speaking of coaches getting fired, Baltimore fans were heard chanting fire hardball during this week's game. [00:58:18] Speaker B: The only fans worse than Steelers fans are Ravens fans. [00:58:20] Speaker A: Yeah, apparently. I mean that's like a thing. [00:58:23] Speaker B: It's not good enough to be in the AFC championship game every year. Have a un. Unique generational talent at quarterback who can run a 4:2 and the 40 and just makes the people look stupid. Poops his pants at halftime and comes back and wins the goddamn game. [00:58:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean other, other, other media outlets legitimately have Harbaugh on the hot seat right now. Like, are you. Are we serious right now? [00:58:42] Speaker D: They really should have a better backup plan. Shador. [00:58:49] Speaker B: Look, I hope the Ravens do fire Harbaugh because. Because he would make a great coach here in Cleveland. [00:58:54] Speaker D: Yes, he would. [00:58:55] Speaker A: Yeah. While you're at it, Steelers fire Mike. [00:58:56] Speaker B: Tomlin knows the division. Bring him here. I'm here for it. As a guy. Think about that. Think about a player centric coach. You went from Joe Flacco to Lamar Jackson and somehow figured it out. [00:59:11] Speaker A: Under both guys, you had one of the best offenses in the league, how. [00:59:14] Speaker B: To run completely dichotomous offenses and assembled the personnel groups to do so. So that's a football coach. [00:59:20] Speaker A: That's the guy. Yeah. Yeah. Fire him. We'll take him. Timing couldn't be better. Let's bring him on. Either him or Mike Tomlin. Steelers fans, if you don't, if you don't win a playoff game this year, please fire him. [00:59:32] Speaker B: Harold's got ties to Northeast Ohio, doesn't he? [00:59:34] Speaker A: I think so. And that's. [00:59:35] Speaker D: I think so. [00:59:36] Speaker B: They were born here or something. Something. Right. [00:59:39] Speaker A: Fact checker. Get on that for a second. Listen, Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin, on the other hand, this year for the Steelers has that written all over it. I mean, I talked about it last week and. And I'm talking about it again. Or was it on the live show Sunday? [00:59:51] Speaker B: I don't remember. [00:59:52] Speaker A: Either way. I talked about the fact that the Steelers aren't that good of a football team. Statistically. They're pretty bad this year. [00:59:57] Speaker B: This is the worst team we lost to. Yeah, they're from Toledo. [01:00:00] Speaker A: They're from. I think they were Browns fans growing up, but anyway. [01:00:04] Speaker B: Yeah, because they would. When they played the super bowl, it. [01:00:06] Speaker D: Was like the whole Har Ball family roots in Canton. [01:00:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:10] Speaker D: They lived in various cities. [01:00:11] Speaker B: Bring them here, baby. [01:00:12] Speaker A: Bring them here. Yeah, but no, I'm just the, the Mike Tomlin in the Steelers. This has written all over this season. Has written all over it. They're going to be a team that has a really good record going in the playoffs and then they get bounced first round again. [01:00:24] Speaker B: So no, they won't make it out of round one. [01:00:26] Speaker A: Yeah. So the Steelers fans are all going to be clamoring for. For them to fire Mike Tomlin too. So either one of those guys, whoever. [01:00:33] Speaker B: Wins this division is going to get bounced around one, probably. I mean, unless. Unless the Ravens come back and just are very healthy and Lamar just balls out. Out when he gets healthy balls out. Lamar's balls are out the rest of the season. Just balls to the wall. Just balls all over the place. Hopefully he doesn't get his testicle stabbed. [01:00:50] Speaker A: Be careful. People are out there cutting testicles. Single testicles. [01:00:54] Speaker D: It is dangerous around here. [01:00:55] Speaker A: Lassitere the sack Salido specifically. We just mentioned it. Yeah. [01:00:59] Speaker B: It was hardball. [01:01:01] Speaker A: Hardball. Yeah. [01:01:03] Speaker B: Anyway, so many balls in this segment. [01:01:07] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't fire both the other good coaches in the. In. In the AFC north, please. On another coaching note, for a coach that's on the hot seat, apparently there's a battle brewing between Mike McDaniel and Tua down there in Miami, which again, good timing. [01:01:23] Speaker B: Good timing for it. [01:01:24] Speaker A: Thank you. Thank you. I mean, what was that? Do you do? [01:01:27] Speaker B: Apparently, Yeah, I have a story, but I'll just anecdotally tell it. Apparently Two was mad had or went off after the game after they lost to the Chargers there in the heartbreaker at the end of the game. And he was mouthing off about players not showing up to players, only meeting, showing up late and just being a mess in the locker room. And McDaniels came out today and said, basically rebuffed all that and said it's not the time of the place and that he'll know better moving forward. So. [01:01:52] Speaker A: And that that wasn't actually what was. [01:01:54] Speaker B: Reflective of what was happening in misrepresentation of the locker room. So. So, you know, it's always good to have your head coach and your quarterback at odds. [01:02:01] Speaker A: Yeah. Especially when you're playing the Browns can only help. But, you know, with all this turmoil, what a better time to come together and beat a team than this week. [01:02:09] Speaker B: Show them you're united. [01:02:10] Speaker A: Yeah. So, yeah, there's that. Next up here, former Brown Darius Smith announces his retirement mid season. Randomly out of nowhere. [01:02:19] Speaker B: Yeah. You know, I liked Zadarius when he was here. He had a good year. The one year. [01:02:23] Speaker A: I call him Zadarius Thomas. I think his name is Zadarius Smith. [01:02:26] Speaker B: Smith. [01:02:26] Speaker A: Did I. Did I say that? I don't. Anyways, Smith. [01:02:32] Speaker B: I don't have anything bad to say about Zadarius. I mean, he's. He fell off after he left Cleveland. [01:02:37] Speaker A: Oh, no. [01:02:37] Speaker B: I just. [01:02:37] Speaker A: I just brought this up to say it was odd that he retired mid season. [01:02:41] Speaker E: Yeah. [01:02:41] Speaker B: It wasn't like he was playing terribly. I mean, he was playing in spot duty for Philadelphia and had a sack and a half and so tackle somebody. Sacks. He had a last rated sack in week one. [01:02:51] Speaker A: Last rated sack and a half. [01:02:52] Speaker B: You know, it was like he was on pace to maybe have five sacks or so this year. Like like, that's pretty good numbers at 33. [01:02:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:59] Speaker B: As a spot player. Bad. [01:03:01] Speaker A: So happy trails. At Aries Smith, another former Brown. Baker Mayfield had a pretty good game again this week. [01:03:07] Speaker D: You don't say. [01:03:08] Speaker A: Yeah. All while throwing to wide receivers 4, 5, and 6. For all you out there to tell me that he. He. He's only good because he has the hall of Famer. [01:03:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:03:17] Speaker A: Like, get out of town. [01:03:18] Speaker B: Yeah. Mike Evans ain't out there playing, Godwin ain't out there playing, and rookie phenom Mika Buka was injured in the first half. So. [01:03:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I just wish we had a chance to get a guy like this. [01:03:29] Speaker B: On our team, you know, just gritty. Just a guy that's just out there slinging it just. [01:03:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:03:34] Speaker B: Can make all the throws. That. That scramble on third and 14 basically was the turning point in the game. Your quarterback, who's not fast, had three guys draped all over three tackles and just gutted out and reached for that first down, and then two plays later, just launched at 50 yards in the air to some guy named Tez Jones Johnson. [01:03:49] Speaker A: So, yeah. Which did you hear that story from? Tez. He got like. He. After that, everybody was chanting mvp. And he got up and he asked his teammate, he was like, are they. [01:03:58] Speaker B: He was celebrating. He was like, oh, yeah, I'm the mvp. And they were like, bro, they talking about Baker, bro. [01:04:02] Speaker A: Yeah. And then he told his teammate, oh, that make. It makes sense now. Yeah. So good story there. But, yeah, that. [01:04:10] Speaker B: Excuse me. Choked on my coffee. There is the original Bigger, bro. [01:04:15] Speaker A: Get it out of your mouth. [01:04:16] Speaker B: I would love to see bigger. Sorry, it was stuck in there. It's really big as the original Baker, bro. I would love to see Baker win MVP and win the super bowl for a number of reasons, but most notably because it would force somebody before the end of the year to ask Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Barry. Yes. What happened or why it couldn't work. And I just would love to hear what. How. How they would deflect things that, like, with. With their coach speak. Because how do you, at this point, especially if he were to win a Super bowl, like, how do you at that point then go, how is that not a referendum on your ability to evaluate talent, your ability to coach, your ability to lead, that you couldn't help a young player mature, develop as the quarterback whisperer who now is a Super bowl champion? [01:05:04] Speaker A: Yeah. 100%. [01:05:06] Speaker D: I hope they get asked it every single week about Baker. [01:05:08] Speaker A: Yeah. Here's the other thing is the problem is here in Ohio, you're Still going to have 50% of the fan base that says, well, he had to leave till he could mat and so he. [01:05:16] Speaker B: Could grow up argument of all time. Listen, every player on the NFL roster that comes in as a rookie has to mature. [01:05:23] Speaker A: I have something very specific to say about this today and it is the fact that for all you people that are out there saying that Baker had to leave to mature in the last two weeks he's told reporters in an interview, we don't take no shit. And he told a fan he was a pussy this past week. [01:05:42] Speaker B: He was like flipping a guy off. [01:05:43] Speaker A: Yeah. So like you're going to tell me that he went there there and somehow is different than he was in Cleveland? No, he's the same goddamn player he has been in his entire career. But it's what makes him who he is. [01:05:54] Speaker D: Hasn't he basically already said like, yeah, they kind of just let me be myself down 100. [01:05:58] Speaker B: And that was what I was going to say was that was what he has said since he got to Tampa Bay because there were so many expectations coming from Tom Brady and the comparisons and like, oh, how are you going to go from Tom Brady to this other guy? And he said that since day one that they've embraced me, me as me and everything that comes with that. They never expected me to be Tom. They let me be my own guy. And that's why we've had the success that we've had to this point. [01:06:21] Speaker A: Yeah, everything leads back to Baker. [01:06:23] Speaker B: If we could have just changed him. [01:06:24] Speaker D: Though, if he would have just fit the mold, you know, he would have fit Stefan. Stefan. [01:06:29] Speaker A: Well, again, again this all goes, it goes back to Stefanski, Stefanik and not being able to work with what he's got. [01:06:36] Speaker B: He. [01:06:37] Speaker A: Baker didn't fit the mold. He didn't do what he wanted him to do. And that's not just his personality, that's the way he plays the game. Baker is at best when he's out of the pocket just, just making up as he goes and Kevin cannot handle that. You've got to throw 5 yard dink and dunks only make one read and if you, if it's not your first read, you better get the fuck out of there. [01:06:57] Speaker B: It's a one read offense and your mobility is a luxury if the play breaks down. But he doesn't want a player that is, is making multiple reads and letting plays develop downfield and taking shots. That's not his offense. His offense is west coast. Let's spray it around and extensions of the run game and and it's all timing patterns. It's, you know, 1, 2, 3. That. That back foot hits the ground and that ball should be out. And if it isn't, you're not my quarterback. That's why they love Dylan Gabriel. [01:07:22] Speaker A: As the season progresses, like, you guys haven't seen me angry in quite some time. And it's. It's getting a red hot Ronnie jam. [01:07:29] Speaker B: I've been sweaty the last two weeks and I'm sweaty again already. [01:07:31] Speaker A: I'm pretty fired up right now. We were. I thought we were away from the Stefanic talk. We came back to it with a vengeance. How can you not like, Jesus Christ, I gotta move on. Juju Smith Schuster and Dion Branch got into it, huh? [01:07:43] Speaker D: They all slap, slap to the head. [01:07:45] Speaker B: Yeah, I was watching that, and I was like, I was about to turn the TV off. [01:07:48] Speaker A: Speaking of pussies, JuJu Smith Schuster in the house. [01:07:52] Speaker D: Did you see that flop? [01:07:53] Speaker A: Oh, my God, it was bad. But. But on top of that, Schuster jumps up and comes at him. A guy's holding Deon Branch back, like, pushing him away. And Dion Branch still manages to just, like, grab him and throw him on the ground and just start beating his ass with somebody on top of him like, juju Smith, Schuster. Get out of here. You don't know what to do. [01:08:15] Speaker B: I was dropped the P word on him. I was watching the end of the game. I was like. I was about to turn the TV off because I didn't want to watch him kneel the ball down, but for whatever reason, I kept it on. And then, boy, was I glad because I was like, oh, wow, they're throwing hangovers out here. [01:08:27] Speaker A: It's getting good. [01:08:28] Speaker B: I woke my wife up in bed next to me, and she was like, why are they punching each other? [01:08:34] Speaker A: Yeah. Next up here, Anthony Richardson, put on IR after suffering an orbital fracture during pregame warmups. [01:08:43] Speaker B: There's not one. [01:08:44] Speaker A: Yeah. Hitting the face with a workout band or stretching band as he's warming up for the game. Done just on ir. [01:08:51] Speaker B: How you get fired on your day. [01:08:52] Speaker A: Off, you lose a battle to a stretching band. [01:08:57] Speaker B: Yeah. Colts, there's something in the water down there because they had a. It's a bad luck this weekend altogether together. [01:09:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:09:02] Speaker B: Feels bad because. [01:09:04] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, that's next up. [01:09:05] Speaker C: Right? [01:09:05] Speaker A: Right. Very next door. Colts cornerback Javarius Charius Ward collided with a tight end during warmups, which resulted in a concussion. Like, this dude got up dead fish flopped. [01:09:16] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:09:16] Speaker A: Like, arms straight to the side, just laying there, Undertaker style. [01:09:21] Speaker D: He ran into a brick wall, which he did Not. See, not a literal brick wall, but a tight end. [01:09:26] Speaker B: Big old dude. [01:09:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:09:28] Speaker B: That's just odd. [01:09:29] Speaker F: What's. [01:09:30] Speaker B: I don't know what's going on there in Indianapolis, but they're winning football games, so. [01:09:33] Speaker F: Yeah. [01:09:33] Speaker B: And so with Daniel Jones, of all people. So. [01:09:36] Speaker A: So when it comes to our trip around the NFL, just like Javerius Ward, we out. We out. Kenny, I think it's time for another interview. [01:09:45] Speaker B: Yeah, let's do it. How much money do you make a year before taxes? I'm actually not comfortable answering that. Come on, we're doing the interview now, not you. [01:10:03] Speaker A: All right, so for this interview in the brownsbackers interview series, please help me welcome, hailing from Tin Roof in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, the president of the Fort Lauderdale Brownsbackers, Ray. Ray, thank you so much for joining us. How are you today? [01:10:19] Speaker E: Doing well. How about yourself? [01:10:21] Speaker A: Doing great. And we could be doing better if the Browns were a little bit better, but that's. That's a whole other feeling. [01:10:25] Speaker B: A little down right now. [01:10:26] Speaker A: Yeah. No. So, Ray, before we get into any Browns talk, let's talk about something that is good. Your guys's chapter of the Browns Backers. Tell us all about it. [01:10:35] Speaker E: Yeah, so it's a fun chapter down here in sunny Fort Lauderdale, about 20 miles or so from Miami. So there's always a lot of action, a lot of fun stuff going on, but we've been around for, I think this is our 11th year year. A buddy of mine, Will Walters, and I kind of got sick of sitting around on the couch watching the games, and there was no chapter here, so we decided to get involved. And it's been a fun ride. It's been an up and down ride through some of these seasons that we've had as of late. But, you know, overall, it's a great experience. And, you know, we're putting a product out there for our fan base that allows them, when they're either on vacation or obviously have moved, to still kind of get around the Cleveland people and, you know, celebrate the ups and the downs together over some drinks and some food and, you know, the common screaming and yelling at the tv. So it's been. It's been a good time. And, you know, we do a lot of charity work. We do donate to the Cleveland Browns foundation, the local food pantry here. We try to get involved as much as possible. So, you know, anytime anybody's down here in South Florida, we always welcome them to come through. We've got people coming in with their suitcases to and from the airport, and obviously Locals that are here full and part time and family. Families and friends that come down and visit. So it's. It's pretty fun. [01:11:57] Speaker A: Absolutely. And yeah, I mean, just. Just a message out there for all you Browns backers. These guys are phenomenal. Just because the Browns have lost some games doesn't mean you should stop going. You guys should. That goes for not only you guys, but for everybody in the Browns backers as they. I know that they work hard to make sure they have viewing locations for you guys. So keep going. Keep supporting those, those bars. [01:12:16] Speaker B: Even when we're bad. [01:12:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:12:19] Speaker F: Is. [01:12:19] Speaker B: Is that location. Is that close to the airport? You said people are, you know, kind of coming and going. [01:12:24] Speaker E: You know, Fort Lauderdale's a very accessible community. We're probably downtown. We're right downtown on Los Olas and Andrews. Los Alas is the main thoroughfare where the bars, restaurants, shops are kind of. That runs from downtown to the beach, and that's about maybe a 10 minute drive from the airport. So it's centrally located. Tin Roof is based in Nashville. They've got locations all over. So they're a live music joint that, you know, throws a pretty good party on most evenings. So. So having that be able to be our home base has been very really exciting and just a really cool place to be. [01:12:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I was gonna say that name sounds familiar. [01:13:01] Speaker F: We. [01:13:01] Speaker A: We were just down there. [01:13:02] Speaker B: Nashville's like a second home to us a little bit. We used to travel down there quite a bit. And I've been in Fort Lauderdale a lot recently actually for cruises. So I love it down there. It's. It's awesome. So I'll definitely stop in next time we're down that way. [01:13:16] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. And how did you end up, you know, kind of falling into this thing? Are you a Browns fan? Were you born and raised in Cleveland and then moved down there or how did that all come about? [01:13:27] Speaker E: Yeah, I'm a Parma kid and. [01:13:29] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [01:13:29] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [01:13:30] Speaker A: Are you Polish? [01:13:32] Speaker E: I am not. [01:13:33] Speaker A: Okay. I can say that my family's Polish and they're. They are from Parma. So. [01:13:37] Speaker B: Yeah, it's not a normal question to just ask someone, are you Polish? [01:13:41] Speaker A: Polish people are allowed to ask other. Other people if they're Polish. So. [01:13:44] Speaker E: Yeah, I, I grew up. My dad was. Was the cop on the field, one of the cops. And my grandfather, his dad was the cop on the field for. For the Browns. So as a little kid, my brother and I, and occasionally my sister, we would basically just be thrown into the mix, you know, standing on the edge of the Field or, you know, right there where they came in and out of the dugout at the old stadium. So I got to meet a lot of the players and, you know, just kind of got ingrained in my blood, just going to every single game as a kid, and then when you move away, you don't have that, you know, that Sunday feel anymore. So that's kind of why we tried to bring this here and make it a little bit more exciting for people. And you traveling around myself, I've been able to go to some other backer clubs, and I thought, you know, why are we not doing this here? So it's been pretty cool, and it's kind of grown to the point of where, you know, we probably have about 120, 150 actual members. And, you know, when people are vacationing here, we open the doors to everybody. You don't have to be a member, so you come on, come through, and, you know, everybody's a family in a sense. And then it's gotten kind of neat to where when the Browns play down here against the Dolphins, we've been. Been lucky enough to be considered the main club down here. So we do what's called the backer bash. On the night before the games where you've got, you know, 1500, 2000 people, they'll bring some alumni down. We've had Leroy Horde, Hanford Dixon and, you know, throw a pretty good party for people and then, you know, the buses the following morning to a massive tailgate at the stadium here where the Dolphins play. So it's gotten us some pretty good recognition down here, you know, from. From people who vacation and just the locals alike. And, you know, obviously it makes it really fun for those that. That want to watch the Browns good and bad to, you know, have a good day. [01:15:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:15:24] Speaker B: Nice. [01:15:25] Speaker A: Absolutely. [01:15:25] Speaker B: And now, do you anticipate this week being a busier week, just with the local influence there and just for people coming out to see the Dolphins? [01:15:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:15:31] Speaker E: You know, one thing that we've done since our inception would be to not only throw a Browns party, but make it more of a football party, so everybody's welcome. Even if it's the team we're playing against or even just other teams. We'll try to have a few games on. Obviously, always the Dolphins game, too. So this week, obviously, we're expecting a lot of people there. I'm actually going to the game, so I'll be flying up Saturday. [01:15:53] Speaker A: Nice. [01:15:54] Speaker E: I've got season tickets, so I try to make it up as much as possible. And obviously, it's not for every game, but try to do a little bit of a balance between my partner, Will, who does it with me, and, you know, those other guys that help out and try to get to a couple games to hopefully see them win. [01:16:09] Speaker A: I do have to say it's wild to me the amount of brownsbackers presidents from out of state, state that have season tickets and they're like, yeah, I go to every home game. I know we've got some friends up in the Northeast that they go to literally every home game. And I'm like, you guys are live, like, three states away. Yeah. I mean, it's awesome. I mean, everybody else likes to talk about how good their fans are, but Browns fans truly are something special. [01:16:37] Speaker E: I gotta say that I was lucky enough to get up for the opener this year, which was, you know, heartbreaking. And then we made it up for the Green Bay game a couple weeks ago, which was fantastic ending. So we'll see what happens when we see what happens Sunday. But in regards to the club down here, yeah, we're always expecting a pretty full house. Tin Roof's very good with us, so we try to push it out along with Tin Roof pushing it out. And we've got some local, we'll call them ambassadors that are kind of just friends with us that shoot out a lot of posts and social media, you know, just to give us a presence out there and get as many people through the club as possible. [01:17:09] Speaker A: Absolutely. [01:17:10] Speaker B: Now, when you come up, do you stay with family here? Do you still have family in the area or do you just stay downtown and park? [01:17:15] Speaker E: I've got some family throughout. My mom's over in North Ridgeville, sisters out there. So I try to stay with them a little bit, but typically I'm staying downtown or with a friend just because we still like to go out and North Ridgeville is a little bit far for an Uber, so. [01:17:28] Speaker A: True. [01:17:29] Speaker B: Fair enough. [01:17:32] Speaker A: Well, soon it's going to be real easy for you because Brook park is going to be right next to the airport there. True. [01:17:37] Speaker E: So I just saw the news about an hour ago. [01:17:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. And we're definitely finally done. Yeah, it's over. It's finally over. [01:17:45] Speaker B: Fight is over. [01:17:47] Speaker A: But, yeah, so let's talk about the Browns and we won't talk it. Let's. Let's not talk about the entire season so far. We're just going to talk about this Sunday. Let me ask you. I mean, you get to see a lot more Dolphins coverage than all of us, so knowing the Dolphins a little bit better than probably the average Browns fan who wins this weekend. And what's your score prediction? [01:18:11] Speaker E: You know, the Dolphins are, I gotta be honest, I think they're worse than us right now. I think we've got some talent on this team. It's just being mismanaged and you know, say what you want about a lot of different topics there, but, you know, I wouldn't have a hard time betting against them if it was the right moment. But I do think the Browns pull this out. I think it'll probably be a close game because the Dolphins are not, you know, they have talents as well, but playing in Cleveland is a little bit of a home field advantage most of the time. So I can see the, the Browns winning out a squeaker here and you know, if they get it together on offense, which has been difficult, you know, who knows what they can do. But I do project that the Browns will pull this one off. I just, I think it's a battle of two coaches that are on the hot seat that one of them is probably not going to make it out after this weekend. I could barely. [01:18:59] Speaker A: Oh, that's. That was actually a fun, fun discussion there. [01:19:03] Speaker B: That was my follow up question I was going to ask you. I mean, is Mike McDaniel pretty well on the hot seat then? [01:19:09] Speaker E: If body language is any sign, I think he can see the writing on the wall. I don't know what' going on with that team. Obviously the quarterback's very frustrated and has vocalized that as well here. They're not succeeding and they have talent and you know, injuries happen like to all of us, but at the same time they're, they're not moving the ball. They're not progressing as a team either. I could see either of these coaches having, having a little bit of a pink slip situation coming very soon. [01:19:38] Speaker A: It's pretty bold for a quarterback to badmouth as coach when he can't stay on the field. And his, his play has been so up and down throughout his career. [01:19:46] Speaker B: Mike, maybe Daniels is just an interesting dude. I mean, just, I mean, in press conferences and things, I just, I, I'm curious like how that's received down there. But obviously if they're not winning, doesn't help. [01:19:57] Speaker E: Yeah, I think they like them overall, but you know, when you're not putting wins up, it's difficult to stay the course. So. [01:20:04] Speaker C: Right. [01:20:04] Speaker A: Let's be honest here. You guys are down by Miami. How much booger sugar is he snorting on a day on a weekly basis? [01:20:11] Speaker E: You know, it's interesting watching him to be Quite honest. [01:20:14] Speaker A: I don't know. [01:20:15] Speaker E: I thought the guy got sober recently, to be honest. But some of these press conferences are very interesting and, you know, there's rumors abound and Miami is definitely the. The sugar capital. [01:20:27] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, we know how it goes. We might be from Ohio, but we're not. We don't live under a rock, so. [01:20:33] Speaker B: Likewise. [01:20:34] Speaker E: I. I don't know. Something's going on with this team. I don't know if it's just that he lost the team or maybe he's gotten, you know, a little bit creative in the kitchen, if we'll say, but, you know, something's going on there. I don't know if it's that, but you never know. It is South Florida. [01:20:49] Speaker A: I wonder if something happened with him and Tua. He stopped sharing. I don't know. [01:20:54] Speaker B: They were falling out. [01:20:56] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. But no. So, score prediction. You did not give us that yet, and I will. I want to ask you, before you give a score prediction, to just keep in mind that the Browns haven't scored over 17 points in this season or most of last season. So what is your score prediction for the game this week? [01:21:17] Speaker E: This is a tough question. You know, I was going to say 2117. Browns. I think maybe we could pass that threshold finally. You know, watching this past Sunday is. Is terrible. I mean, they cannot get in the end zone. This dink and dunk nonsense is not going to get them anywhere. You know, I don't know. I really don't know what to say. I mean, I. I think. I think a lot of us probably feel the same way, that we can go into any one of these games and have a great win, put up some points. And then there's weekends like the Pittsburgh Steelers last week, yesterday, that they're not. They're not doing anything. So I'm going to go with 2117 Cleveland on this one. But that. That could be a completely different number by the time that game. [01:22:03] Speaker A: Isn't it fun watching the Browns? [01:22:06] Speaker D: It really is. [01:22:06] Speaker E: It's like a magic bag and you don't know what you're going to pull out. [01:22:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [01:22:10] Speaker B: Ray, you're a thoughtful guy. I know we tend to keep these. These conversations a little shorter, but I just am curious on your take personally on the quarterback situation, you've been impressed with Dylan Gabriel so far. Are you waiting to see Shador, or do you not think the quarterback of the future is even on this roster? [01:22:25] Speaker E: I got a couple thoughts. I don't think it's Gabriel. I think he is a great backup option. I think he throws the ball where it needs to go. I think you see this with his. His protection. He's not throwing interceptions. Don't think he's known for that. But I could be wrong. I would like to see Shador. I saw some flashes in that first preseason game. You know, people want to talk about the third preseason game where he went with the threes, and a lot of those guys got cut the final following day or week, I think. I don't know what they're doing with Shador. What the wild card here is, is where's the Sean Watson? Because you hear the rumors. I'm not saying I want him back out there, but he's throwing the ball well and he's still on this team. Do they bring him back? You know, is that what's going on here? I. I don't know. But I would like to see Shador. I think Gabriel's, you know, trying his best out there. Is it the play calling, which is clearly suspicious, or is it something else? And it really boggles my mind to see what they're doing with Shador because something tells me he's not as bad as they're making him out to be. [01:23:30] Speaker B: It can't be right. They make him seem like he's never played football before. [01:23:36] Speaker A: Yeah. And I. I don't. I don't want to. I know we're going to be talking about this at length today, but. Yeah, I don't want to spoil it too much, but if you're going to be. You guys say you can't be that bad, but if you're going to be thrown into this offense, I think anybody could be that bad. [01:23:51] Speaker B: That's true. [01:23:52] Speaker A: So, yeah, I mean, it's just a. It's just a tough offense to put up any sort of stats in, but. Yeah, I think we're with you, though. I think we're with you. We want to see Shador. We want to see what he can do. And, yeah, Dylan is what Dylan is. And I'm not saying that's a terrible thing. I'm just not saying that's a franchise quarterback either. [01:24:11] Speaker E: Agreed. [01:24:12] Speaker A: So. [01:24:12] Speaker C: Agreed. [01:24:12] Speaker E: They got to do something about the line. I think the line has as. What was his name? Bill Callahan. His son got fired today with Tennessee. [01:24:20] Speaker A: Oh, hell, yeah. [01:24:21] Speaker B: We might get him back. Yeah. [01:24:22] Speaker A: Well, I mean, the best news I've heard all day. [01:24:24] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:24:24] Speaker E: I mean, if they bring him back, you know, obviously they need to get the talent, and there's a couple guys that are a little Old and there's some injuries, but that offensive line is horrendous right now. So it doesn't matter who's behind center. If you're not going to protect anybody, especially a young quarterback, you're going to have a disaster on your hands and we're witnessing it, so. [01:24:42] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Well, I know Kenny mentioned it just a minute ago. We were. You are a very, very thoughtful guy and you clearly know your Brown stuff. So we would love to sit here and chat with you all evening. Unfortunately, you know, we have a two hour podcast to record. So. Ray, we really appreciate you being on with us. We appreciate you taking the time. If we're ever down in Fort Lauderdale on a Brown Sunday, you know we're going to be looking for tin roof and we're going to be looking for Ray. We're going to come see you guys in the Fort Lauderdale Brownsbackers. [01:25:12] Speaker E: Absolutely. Anytime, guys. Call me if you need a guy to step into. And if it's not football season, feel free to reach out, go grab a beer. Whatever you guys want to do down here in South Florida, it's a good time. [01:25:22] Speaker A: Absolutely. [01:25:22] Speaker B: Thanks, Ray. [01:25:23] Speaker D: Thank you. [01:25:23] Speaker E: You got it. Gentlemen, we're the Fort Lauderdale Brownsbackers and you're listening to the Burning River Sportscast. Go Browns. [01:25:38] Speaker A: Good time Talking to Ray for the Fort Lauderdale Brownsbackers, huh? [01:25:41] Speaker B: Finle. Finle is. [01:25:43] Speaker A: Why didn't we lean into this? What were we thinking? His name was Ray and we're playing the Dolphins. [01:25:49] Speaker B: We were getting all that good Dolphins intel and it never crossed our mind. [01:25:52] Speaker A: Son of a. [01:25:54] Speaker B: Look, Ray was Ray. Ray really broke it down. Ray was a thoughtful guy. Appreciated his. His insight there. Especially coming from behind enemy lines. [01:26:01] Speaker A: You might see more Ray. We might bring him on. [01:26:03] Speaker B: Ray was. Ray was good. We've. We've had a lot of really good conversations this year. [01:26:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:26:07] Speaker B: With Brownsbackers and these other interview. We've had a lot of really good, good guests so far this year. [01:26:11] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. What was that? I. I think we've got an incoming message. I think it's time for mission control with Brown strip. [01:26:21] Speaker C: T minus 10. 9, 8. 7. 6. 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. [01:26:31] Speaker B: 0. [01:26:33] Speaker C: Ignition. [01:26:35] Speaker B: Liftoff. Liftoff. 30 minutes. Is the Brown calling in on the Burning River Sportscast. Do you guys copy? Roger that. The dog ship has finally returned back. [01:26:48] Speaker A: To its home base to refuel. [01:26:50] Speaker B: Apparently some dolphins are attempting to to bring waves to Cleveland. Don't they know the moon controls the tide this Sunday? The dog ship doesn't float. It dominates time to defend our Homeland and get back on track. Peace. I like that Brownster not still a big Baker bro, is it? [01:27:11] Speaker A: Like, if you follow him on social medias, he's always posted about how good Baker is. [01:27:14] Speaker B: He posted that down around. He's like, still love this guy. I like. [01:27:17] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, he gets. No, he gets it. [01:27:19] Speaker B: We're just living in the past. [01:27:22] Speaker A: Listen, I'm gonna live in the glory. [01:27:23] Speaker B: Days of Baker being a Brown. [01:27:25] Speaker A: I'm gonna give it to you one more time and tell you that I was not a Baker bro to begin with. I kind of made fun of you about a little bit, but you're the. [01:27:32] Speaker B: Reason he's not here. I blame you. [01:27:34] Speaker A: Me personally. Like, me specifically. [01:27:36] Speaker B: 100 you. [01:27:37] Speaker A: Damn. [01:27:37] Speaker D: Definitely you. [01:27:38] Speaker A: Hey, there's. There's the fight we were talking about. Now I just want to say, like, I wasn't an original bigger bro, but I'm full blown Baker bro now. Like, I'm like, Baker was the best quarterback the Browns have had since they've been the Browns again. [01:27:50] Speaker B: You can always come back home. No ill will. [01:27:52] Speaker A: You want to shake my hand? [01:27:53] Speaker B: I don't ever want to shake your hand. [01:27:56] Speaker A: He literally just left me hanging. [01:27:57] Speaker B: I will never touch you. But you can come back to the. Come back, please. [01:28:02] Speaker D: Please come back. [01:28:03] Speaker B: We'll take everybody. [01:28:04] Speaker A: Baby, come back. You can blame it all on me. [01:28:08] Speaker B: You're always welcome to come back to Baker. [01:28:09] Speaker A: I'm a. I'm a bigger bro now. But with that, let's get into the week seven preview. [01:28:25] Speaker B: No, I will not shake your hand. [01:28:28] Speaker A: Jeez, I'm sorry. I forgot who we were for a minute. You know, I don't want to touch you guys. This week, we have the Miami Dolphins. [01:28:35] Speaker B: Last week, we couldn't decide whether your hands were dirtier or your boobs were dirtier. Your hands are definitely dirtier. [01:28:41] Speaker A: You don't want to know. You do not want to know. Anyways, this week, we have the Miami Dolphins. And with each preview on the Burning River Sportscast comes another edition of Kenny's Cliff Notes. Kenny, what is you got for us for Cliff's notes? Let's hear it. [01:29:05] Speaker B: Not all. [01:29:06] Speaker A: Cliff is pissed because he's like, wait, those are my notes. Like Cliff Coulson. Like our. Our buddy out brown spaggers. [01:29:12] Speaker D: He's probably gotten over it. [01:29:13] Speaker B: I was getting ready to go. All right, you just shot me in the foot. [01:29:16] Speaker A: I'll never let you go. [01:29:17] Speaker B: I will never touch you. [01:29:19] Speaker A: That's what he say. Anyways. Go on. [01:29:21] Speaker B: Kenny's club notes, not all whales are dolphins, but all dolphins are whales. There's whale festival for you. [01:29:30] Speaker A: We did it. Whale facts are back. [01:29:33] Speaker B: Mike McDaniels leads the one in five dolphins in the Cleveland after a heartbreaking loss to Harbaugh's Chargers. Not the good hardball. The other hub, all the Michigan hardball. We don't like him. The 2025 season marks McDaniels 19th in the NFL and fourth as head coach. Frank Smith and Anthony Weaver return as coordinators. CTE is serious, but to attack of a low. Does it think so? He's thrown for 1200 yards, 11 touchdowns and seven picks so far this season. For a guy who throws a lot of picks, the good news is he has a short memory despite. [01:30:05] Speaker A: Is that another CTE joke? [01:30:07] Speaker B: Please don't cancel me. Despite three running backs in a three decent running backs and a Shane Wright and Oklahoma State rookie Ollie Gordon, their run offense ranks just 27th. That's what we call underperforming. A lot like Ronnie Jams in the sack. Tyree kill his mangle. So that leaves Jalen Waddle who is a star in his own right. And second year player Malik Washington is wide receiver too. Darren Waller too sober for retirement, has four touchdowns in the last three weeks. Mixed results from this offensive line this year anchored by center Aaron Brewer. If there was a litmus test here, it's the two is still playing. So job well done I guess. Ranked 29th in total defense this year. This unit has a lot to prove if the Dolphins are going to rank the ship. But there is plenty of talent to go around. Chop Robinson, Zach Seiler and Bradley Chubb make up a strong defensive front linebacker Jordan Brooks had 143 tackles a year ago. And if little lava lamp lobs ducks into this secretary secondary, Minka Fitzpatrick will definitely come down with one little lavalier. Former Brown Riley Patterson, now on his sixth NFL team, will handle kicking duties. And Jake Bailey and his third season as the Dolphin punter. Maybe it'll snow this weekend and our boys will have a chance. Go Browns. [01:31:24] Speaker A: With every wonderful edition of Kenny's Cliff Notes, you know that not far behind is Ronnie Jams matchups. You have so many nicknames for this guy. Can we make shirts that are just like a little lava lamp with his head on him? Just be like with his arms like. [01:31:56] Speaker B: Coming out like is that caviar infringements use his face. Yeah, yeah, I guess we can't do it then. Maybe you could just put arms coming out with turf tape and Samoan tattoos. [01:32:05] Speaker A: Like just the outline of his head with like his hair sleeve on his caricature. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I like this, Ronnie. Jim's matchups that matter. I got two of them for you. [01:32:16] Speaker B: I'm ready to hear them. [01:32:17] Speaker A: I didn't want you to guess. Number one, Quinshawn Judkins versus Zack Seiler in the interior defensive line of the Dolphins. I forgot who we were playing for a second. That's how good they are. [01:32:29] Speaker B: We're worse. [01:32:29] Speaker A: We're worse. Anyways, the Dolphins ranked number 32 against the run this year. 32. They're dead last. So if we're going to have any chance of winning this game, we're going to have score points. If we're going to have any chance scoring points, we're going to have to let Quinch on Jackets run. He's going to have to be good. Run the ball, Kevin, you stole my thunder. But that brings us to the last point. If we're going to run the ball, we're going to have to fire Kevin Stefanski. That's not happening. This probably won't happen. They'll probably find a way to hold us under 100 yards. It's not going to be good. [01:33:01] Speaker B: Next victory is run the ball. We're going to throw the ball 48 times. [01:33:04] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. Jaylen Waddle versus Denzel Ward is my other matchup that matters. They're down on, you know, obviously Tyreek Hill got hurt done for the season. His leg was in 47 different places last week, two weeks ago, whenever that was. [01:33:18] Speaker D: It's. [01:33:19] Speaker B: They're still all over the. [01:33:20] Speaker A: We can't find his legs. [01:33:22] Speaker B: What happened to his. [01:33:23] Speaker A: And so you're down to basically just Jalen Waddle holding the fort down for the receivers. I mean, you have Waller, who's. Who's catching passes at the tight end position. [01:33:32] Speaker B: But I mean, you say just Jalen Waddle like he's not good. [01:33:34] Speaker A: No, I'm saying he is good. But like, if Denzel Ward can shut him down like we should be okay. Hopefully you say so. [01:33:41] Speaker B: Your matchups the matter? [01:33:42] Speaker A: I don't know. That's the matchup that matters. And so in summary, real quick, between these two teams, the Dolphins coming off a close loss to The Chargers are 1 and 5. The defensive unit is not good. Overall, they ranked 29 in the NFL. I think you said 27, 29, depending on which outlet you use. Passing defense ranks number 16. Run defense is number 32. And then on offense, again, not good. They rank overall number 28 in the NFL. The running game is number 30 in the NFL. And their passing game is number 21. So that all spells good things for our defense. Hope, hopefully. And then the Browns coming off another bad loss this time to Pittsburgh. I'm not going to do that again. I know you want me to. The whole this time. And then there was that one felt bad and this one felt bad. I'm not doing that anymore. But one of five. I'm going to. I'm going to have to do that for 16 games this year. [01:34:31] Speaker B: You did it for 16 last year. [01:34:33] Speaker A: No, they didn't lose 16 games. So I'm saying they win very many. No, but they. They won more than. [01:34:38] Speaker B: We went on a long stretch. [01:34:40] Speaker A: Yeah, we did. [01:34:41] Speaker B: There was worse than the week before. [01:34:43] Speaker E: Yeah. [01:34:43] Speaker A: Anyways, one in five record for the Browns. It's just this team is awful. It doesn't matter who we put in at quarterback. This offense holds everyone back. Defensively, they're still pretty good. They're number two in the NFL still. These haven't been updated for this week, but anyways, they still ranked number one against the run, number four against the pass. But on offense they're terrible. Number 27. Somehow higher than than the Dolphins. I don't really know how that's even possible. Running game ranks 26. Passing game ranks 24. Do the Browns a chance? I don't think so. Miami can score more than 13 points. [01:35:15] Speaker B: So I don't think so. [01:35:17] Speaker A: So that's kind of where we're at. But there's got to be a path to victory. Some sort of key, if you will. So let's bring in the big bone man because it's time for bone man Skeleton key to victory. Bone, what do you got for us. [01:35:35] Speaker D: Today for the another riveting take. Let's just run the ball. I. I want to see if Quint, Shawn get the ball 25 plus times. [01:35:44] Speaker A: Oh, 20. [01:35:45] Speaker D: 25 times. [01:35:48] Speaker B: We've told a lot of jokes tonight. That is the funniest thing I've ever heard. [01:35:52] Speaker A: What? [01:35:52] Speaker D: This is the key to victory. Run the ball, Kevin. [01:35:56] Speaker A: 25 times. [01:35:57] Speaker B: 25. [01:35:58] Speaker D: Team rushing over 150. [01:36:00] Speaker A: I'm lightheaded. I was so surprised by that comment. [01:36:03] Speaker B: We had a fact checker to see who the last running back in Cleveland history was that had 25 carries in a game. [01:36:08] Speaker A: If only we had a fact checker. Listen, the last week's key to victory was score more points than the other team. And this week it's run score more than 17. [01:36:19] Speaker B: Just keep getting better. [01:36:21] Speaker D: Well, our defense is good. The defense is holding up there in the bargain. The offense is not. [01:36:25] Speaker A: I Never thought that run the ball 25 times would be less believable. Less. Less. It would make less sense than score more than the opponent. [01:36:35] Speaker D: Well, we only scored nine last week, guys. [01:36:38] Speaker B: It's the most logical thing to do. You have a rookie quarterback who's 5 foot 7 who can't throw the ball over the line. [01:36:45] Speaker A: We're on the ball. Nicknames the likes of which we have never heard before. Little Lava Lamp, Little Coconut, Little Coconut s. And my new favorite, Hawaii 59. [01:36:57] Speaker E: And. [01:36:58] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm with you, Bone. I'm with you. Run it 25 times. I accept this. Kenny, you got the betting info for us? [01:37:05] Speaker C: No, no, no. [01:37:07] Speaker A: He doesn't. Just don't bet. Don't bet anything on a Browns game ever. [01:37:11] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. [01:37:13] Speaker A: No, seriously, do you have the betting info? [01:37:14] Speaker B: I haven't laughed like that in a long time. Thanks, Bone. [01:37:17] Speaker D: You're welcome. [01:37:17] Speaker F: Wow. [01:37:18] Speaker A: Bone's like, I don't know if I should keep doing the skeleton keto victory. [01:37:21] Speaker D: They just laugh at me. I think they're laughing at Kevin. [01:37:26] Speaker A: But we are. [01:37:27] Speaker B: We are laughing at Kevin. Not with. [01:37:29] Speaker A: No, what you said makes sense. The fact that it could possibly happen is what's funny. [01:37:33] Speaker D: Yes. [01:37:35] Speaker B: Oh, man, my stomach hurts. Got a surprising line for you this week. Browns minus two and a half. [01:37:42] Speaker A: No way. [01:37:43] Speaker B: Browns are favored at home in a game no way. Over under 39. [01:37:47] Speaker A: I'm not going to give you betting advice, but this might be one you want to jump on. [01:37:50] Speaker B: Might be one you want to run away from. [01:37:54] Speaker E: Dang. [01:37:54] Speaker A: I did not see that coming. I was going to try and fact check us, but you went real quick with those, so. Player to watch this week. Bone, we'll start with you. Who's your player to watch? [01:38:02] Speaker D: Well, with that, you know, 25 times, I'm going to say, quinton, let's get on the ball. [01:38:08] Speaker A: Okay. [01:38:09] Speaker D: Have a big day. Big day for the win. [01:38:11] Speaker A: All right, Kenny, if we're going to. [01:38:12] Speaker B: Run the ball 25 times, that means Dylan Gabriel is keeping it a lot. So I'm gonna go Andre Schmidt, because he's the only guy scoring points. So we're gonna need about seven Schmidt field goals to have a shot in this game. [01:38:24] Speaker A: And don't worry. [01:38:25] Speaker B: I didn't think you think I'm joking, but, like, this is really the best chance we got. [01:38:28] Speaker A: Oh, I don't think you're. I don't think you're joking. I. No, my. My players to watch this week. I'll get to it in a second. And. No, I'll do it now. My players to watch this week wait. [01:38:37] Speaker B: Till the next segment instead of this segment, which is called player to watch. [01:38:40] Speaker A: No, I have another thing to tell you guys. Anyways, my players to watch. I'm going with Corey Bor nice for the win. [01:38:50] Speaker D: He is our punter, everybody. [01:38:52] Speaker A: I didn't even pay attention's important. I didn't even pay attention to you because I was looking up a fact. Did you say it was Andre Schmidt was your play? Yeah. [01:39:00] Speaker D: So two of three. [01:39:01] Speaker A: I was between Andre Schmidt and Corey Bjorquez. [01:39:05] Speaker B: I mean, but Jorquez is the more. [01:39:06] Speaker A: Skilled of the two, specifically because I. My. My score this week is probably going to have either a 15 or an 18 at all in field goals. And so that's why. But my point with Corey Jordiquez is we give this guy a lot of work week in and week out, so he's bound to break a record sooner or later. So maybe it'll be this week. I don't know. [01:39:24] Speaker B: I like it. [01:39:24] Speaker A: I don't know. We'll find out. And the other thing that I wanted to tell you guys, the last Cleveland Browns player to have 25 or more carries in the game was Peyton Hillis in 2010. [01:39:34] Speaker D: Holy smokes. [01:39:35] Speaker A: November 7, 2010. [01:39:37] Speaker B: So that is a crime against humanity that Nick Chubb never had 25 carries in a game. [01:39:43] Speaker A: Yeah, didn't see that coming. This just another indictment on Kevin Stefanik. [01:39:48] Speaker B: That guy sucks on all the Browns. [01:39:49] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [01:39:50] Speaker B: So geez, Hugh couldn't have done it. Or faded Kitchens like nobody wanted to give Nick chubb the ball 25 times. [01:39:58] Speaker A: Nope. [01:39:59] Speaker F: You. [01:39:59] Speaker B: You watch that guy in practice every day and you don't think to yourself, we should give him the ball more? [01:40:05] Speaker A: Nope. And as if we weren't worked up enough, let's get into. Can we talk about this? All right. So can we talk about this? This is a new segment this year. I finally got the name right on the graphics. Good job, buddy. Yeah. We use this segment when one of us has something that they feel new, needs to be talked about or explored further. And so, Kenny, with that being said, I understand you have a topic for us today. What is it? What do you got? [01:40:40] Speaker B: Oh, I remember now. [01:40:41] Speaker A: It's written in the show notes. [01:40:42] Speaker F: If you just look. [01:40:43] Speaker B: Sorry, I was looking at my notes, which are separate from the show notes, which we've. [01:40:46] Speaker A: So annoying. We have discussed why you do that. What a dick. [01:40:51] Speaker B: Look, this has just really been pissing me off lately because I keep seeing the commercial for Taco Bell's 90s menu. And I'm watching the commercial, and every time I see it, it makes me so hungry for a taco. [01:41:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:41:05] Speaker B: Because in the commercial, the taco is overflowing with beef. [01:41:13] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, of course. [01:41:13] Speaker B: And cheese. [01:41:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:41:15] Speaker B: And lettuce. [01:41:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:41:18] Speaker B: I feel like in this country, we have something that should amount to truth in advertising, truth in marketing. From a regulatory standpoint, how do we continue to let fast food companies show us pictures of fake food that looks appetizing and then serve us slop when we actually order it? [01:41:39] Speaker A: It's a good question. [01:41:40] Speaker D: It is a good question. [01:41:41] Speaker B: Why is. Why are they not required to either? [01:41:44] Speaker A: I mean, false advertising is a thing. So, like, why is it not covered in this instance? [01:41:49] Speaker B: Why are they not required to use actual pictures, the actual food that they serve in their advertisements? Or at the very least, be contractually. Contractually and regulatorily obligated. Regular. Regular. [01:42:03] Speaker A: Just go on. [01:42:04] Speaker B: Obligated to at least attempt to make their food look like what's in the advertisement. [01:42:09] Speaker A: Well, they would never make their food look like the advertisement because that means that'd be higher cost and less profit. [01:42:13] Speaker B: But think about. [01:42:14] Speaker C: About. [01:42:14] Speaker B: Would you be more apt to order Taco Bell? Oh, hell yes. [01:42:17] Speaker A: That'd be fat as hell. Were full so big. [01:42:20] Speaker B: If their tacos actually were full of meat. Yeah, they were halfway filled with meat. And then cheese and the lettuce. [01:42:25] Speaker A: If they actually looked like the. The. The commercial, I'd be buying so much more Taco Bell, and I would be eating all of it. [01:42:31] Speaker B: Like, the joke is, like, taco Bell's not Mexican because it's not, like, authentic or good. Which is true. Like, and you. And you sometimes just have to order Taco Bell because. Because it was whatever. You got to eat fast food from time to time because you didn't cook dinner. [01:42:43] Speaker A: I'm probably going to get Taco Bell on the way home now. [01:42:44] Speaker D: I'm kind of feeling it. [01:42:45] Speaker A: Yeah, We've been talking about it for. [01:42:47] Speaker B: So long, but, like, I feel like I would eat there more if the food were actually good. Yeah, but how do we just continue to let this happen? Seriously. [01:42:55] Speaker A: Especially because I think what they claim is. Is, like, it's art. Is because there's somebody that's doing that and, like, making it look like. No, don't give me that. [01:43:02] Speaker B: Food shouldn't be art. [01:43:03] Speaker D: Hold on. [01:43:04] Speaker A: One. One, you can't claim that it's art when, first of all, they put, like, a piece of cardboard underneath of it so that everything sits right on top of the taco. [01:43:12] Speaker B: Right. [01:43:13] Speaker A: And two, most of those topics ain't even real. [01:43:15] Speaker B: No, it's like glue and stuff. [01:43:17] Speaker A: Yeah, like, don't tell me it's art. You're not even using real food. [01:43:20] Speaker B: The mustard is paint bullshit. Like, seriously, like, think about, like the McDonald's commercials. You see and you see this big, juicy beefy patty, but literally you order it and it, you unravel, wrap it, and the buns are touching. That's how small the meat and toppings are. You can't see the inside. [01:43:38] Speaker A: One of the few times in life when buns touching is not a good thing. [01:43:41] Speaker B: But how is that like, Like, I would like to see an actual commercial come out where they just used the actual item because we would all be flaccid. [01:43:49] Speaker D: We should make those commercials. [01:43:51] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. We need to start that here. This would be a side project for the Burning River Sportscast to make truth and advertising commercials. [01:43:58] Speaker A: Nobody steal that idea. [01:43:59] Speaker B: We'll just actually make. We'll just actually film the commercial with the actual food Items. Isn't this delicious 90s taco? [01:44:05] Speaker D: Yeah, I got some 90s clothes I can, you know, throw on there. [01:44:08] Speaker A: Yeah, I like this. Why don't you be a spokesperson for some sort of fast food? You, you just describing delicious, juicy burgers and everything, like, hard. I just really want fast food now. Like, I am definitely 100% stopping for fast food. [01:44:23] Speaker B: I mean, not going to lie, I'm somewhat of a connoisseur myself. [01:44:26] Speaker A: Well, I know that you don't get to look like you without being a. [01:44:29] Speaker B: Down 75 pounds, but I'm still fat. [01:44:31] Speaker A: Still fat. Yeah. Yeah. [01:44:34] Speaker B: So that's it. I just, I was. I've been just like exceptionally pissed off about this lately because I keep seeing this commercial, then every time I see it, I want a cool ranch Doritos Locos taco. [01:44:43] Speaker A: That's fair. That's fair. [01:44:44] Speaker B: It's not an advertisement for Taco Bell, by the way. [01:44:46] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:44:47] Speaker B: No affiliation, no dollar spent. [01:44:48] Speaker A: No fucking fast food advertising is. [01:44:52] Speaker B: I would love Taco Bell to advertise on our show. [01:44:54] Speaker A: Yeah. Thank you. Please. Thank you. Before this, before this segment, I said, as if we weren't fired up enough as it was. So, you know, with that, let's keep it going. Let's get into a gassed up segment here. [01:45:07] Speaker B: Just a little gassed up. [01:45:08] Speaker A: We'll get. We'll get a little gassed up. [01:45:10] Speaker B: I'm not exactly pissed, but I'm mini gassed. [01:45:12] Speaker A: Yeah, let's give it. Let's let the sounder play. First. [01:45:14] Speaker B: All right. [01:45:21] Speaker A: All right. So we got, we got a little. You got a little gassed up about something. You want to talk about it? [01:45:25] Speaker B: I did, but this isn't. [01:45:26] Speaker A: Can we talk about it? This is gassed up. It's different. [01:45:28] Speaker B: Totally separate segments that accomplish the same thing. This is why you come to the Burninger Sports casting. The same takes over and over and over again. And to get kicked in the Jimmy's. Yeah, before. Before I get to me being a little mini guest up, I have something else that I wanted to throw my wife under the bus real quick. [01:45:46] Speaker A: You do that often? If there was an actual bus, I'd be worried. [01:45:51] Speaker B: Just snotted. You see that? [01:45:52] Speaker A: Disgusting. Get out. [01:45:55] Speaker B: We went to dinner this weekend and it's like homecoming season. So a lot of the high schoolers are out and they're all dressed to a tee. We were sitting across from a young couple. Couple and a girl, really nice dress on, her hair all done up, you know, all pretty for homecoming. And my wife kept. She was like, that girl's really pretty. And I'm like, I'm in kind of a weird position because I'm like, yeah, this 16 year old girl looks real good. [01:46:22] Speaker A: Lose, lose there. Just don't say anything. [01:46:25] Speaker B: Like I can appreciate the effort that went into her getting set up, but like, I'm not gonna stare, right? [01:46:29] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:46:30] Speaker A: And so not a good spot. [01:46:32] Speaker B: We can get to the end of our meal and someone purchased their, their dinner. It. It was really sweet. They. They like shared a meal. You remember being like broke in high school and trying to take a date out. Like they shared a. They got one dinner shared or whatever. And so somebody had bought their meal because they knew it was special night for them, which is a nice thing to do. And Christine looks at me and she's like, yeah, we should, we should, we should, we should buy their meal. And then somebody did. And as the girl and the guy are getting up to leave, Christine looks at her and she was kind of, she was like mouthing like, you're really beautiful to this girl. And the girl's like, oh gosh, did you guys buy our, our dinner? And we were first off, we were like, no. So that was embarrassing. [01:47:15] Speaker A: No, that wasn't us. That was some other nice, nice people that bought your dinner for you. [01:47:18] Speaker B: And so at this point, Christine had been mouthing like, you're really beautiful. And she was just like, no, we didn't buy your, your dinner. But I just. You are so exceptionally beautiful. Like, you just, you really look fantastic. There's a Guy sitting next to Christine looks at her and goes, thank you. And he looks around the couple they had left. So he looks around, turns around, sees nobody. It's like, this is the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me. [01:47:55] Speaker A: And he was like, that took some balls right in front of your husband. Did you laugh like this in person? [01:48:03] Speaker B: Yeah, it was, I mean, it was just. It was so funny because she was trying to tell that girl, did your. [01:48:08] Speaker A: Did your wife laugh in person? Because your wife's got a little bit of a. Like. And I say this, I say this with love. Your wife's got a cackle on her, like when she, when she laughs. She's like, it's a loud laugh, like. [01:48:17] Speaker B: And eventually he kind of realized what was going on. He looked up and saw them walking out him. And, and he was a good sport about. He was like, oh yeah, brother. Like, you know, he was a real fun dude. But it was just pretty funny because she was trying to tell that girl she was beautiful, but she was looking directly at some 50 year old man out to dinner with his family. [01:48:31] Speaker A: He probably looked at you. He's like, is this. If this woman's talking to me like that right in front of her husband, he might eat me. [01:48:37] Speaker B: She's bold, man. Anyway, I just wanted to. [01:48:41] Speaker A: So anyways, we're in a mini gassed up. Please, please actually get to the. [01:48:45] Speaker B: I mean, I mean. So I was also, also a little pissed about this, I guess. So last week I was walking down my hallway and I feel like I feel something in my foot and I like, stop. And I look around and I'm like, screw that. Just step on. There's nothing, there's nothing in the hallway and it feels, it hurts. [01:49:03] Speaker A: I'm gonna pause you right there and say, I just love that you threw in a total tedism right there and said, what the screw was that? Yeah, I love it. [01:49:10] Speaker B: I'm trying to keep it peaceful. Pg. Screw pg. I don't know, it might be offensive. [01:49:15] Speaker A: It's just always what Ted said. [01:49:17] Speaker B: That's because he never, he didn't cuss. [01:49:19] Speaker A: Never. [01:49:19] Speaker B: Anyway, my, my foot, like, it hurt. [01:49:21] Speaker A: Nobody knows who I'm talking about. [01:49:23] Speaker C: It hurt. [01:49:24] Speaker B: It hurt pretty good. And I'm like, what the. What? Like, did I get a. Like a paper cut? You know, like a real light laceration. Like you get like on your, like. [01:49:33] Speaker A: On a ball sack. [01:49:33] Speaker B: Like on the ball sack? Yeah, this where like you just get the nerve endings and it's not like a deep cut. But I was like, I don't know, maybe I stepped on the. The laminate wrong or something. I don't know. [01:49:41] Speaker A: Do you think they told him that when she split open his ball sack and said, it's just unnerving. It's just a light laceration, just a flash wound. Sorry, go on. [01:49:49] Speaker B: And so anyway, I didn't think much of it. I just knew that, like, my toe hurt. And I'm walking around for the next three days, and everywhere I walk, every step I take is excruciating. I mowed the grass. I'm pushing the mower outside, and with every step I'm like, ah, my foot really hurts. Like, I don't know if I'm sweating into this little paper cut thing. I finally come inside, and before bed, I look at Christina, I go, you gotta look at my foot. Because I. I don't know, because I. [01:50:18] Speaker A: Can'T see down there. [01:50:20] Speaker B: That's the bottom of my foot, man. And I'm like, my foot has been hurting for three straight days and I have no explanation for why. And she looks at it and goes, oh, got hair in it. Yeah, I pulled it out of my toe. [01:50:38] Speaker A: There's a hair splinter. [01:50:39] Speaker B: Apparently. This is the thing. [01:50:40] Speaker D: I've never heard of this. [01:50:41] Speaker A: You've never heard of a hair splinter? [01:50:43] Speaker B: No, I had neither. [01:50:46] Speaker A: You've never heard of a hair splinter? [01:50:48] Speaker B: How was I walking around on a hair for three days? [01:50:51] Speaker D: Like, he grew it. [01:50:52] Speaker A: No, no, no, no, no. Spoiler alert. I wish Bone's camera was working for this. No, a hair splinter is a. A hair that works its way into your skin and slowly keeps working its way further and further into your skin. [01:51:05] Speaker B: As with every step I took. [01:51:06] Speaker A: Yeah, every step again. Yeah. So it's very common for dog hair. [01:51:12] Speaker D: Like, it opened a pore. [01:51:13] Speaker A: No, no, no. It literally pokes into your skin and just starts working its way into your skin. [01:51:18] Speaker D: It was just made of hair. [01:51:19] Speaker B: Yeah, it was. It was the dog's hair. [01:51:21] Speaker D: Ah. [01:51:22] Speaker B: And it was just perpendicular 90 degrees in the. In, in my toes. [01:51:25] Speaker A: Like, a loose hair gets into, like, usually, like, in that case, it probably was like in your sock or in your shoe. And then it stuck. [01:51:33] Speaker D: Yeah, perfectly. [01:51:34] Speaker A: And then it slowly works its way into your skin. So it happens. It actually has happened quite a few times to my wife and I. We have a black lab. [01:51:42] Speaker D: Okay. [01:51:43] Speaker A: And so we've had hair. Yeah, and we've had hair splinters a lot. But it's very common with hairdressers and barbers, like, in the webs of their fingers, because they're constantly cutting hair and A hair will get in there and then it slowly works its way further. [01:51:56] Speaker B: I guess that's why they don't wear open toed shoes as well. [01:51:59] Speaker A: Yeah. And they can get really bad. Like they can get infected and stuff if you don't get it out. And it's. It's wild, but they hurt. Like it hurts so bad. And the worst part about it, if you're squeamish with this kind of thing, cover your ears, is when you pull it out, especially if it's worked its way in there a little bit and you have a little bit longer hair, you can feel it coming out the entire way. Like as it's work as it's being pulled out. As soon as it's out though, no pain better. Absolutely none. [01:52:23] Speaker D: I'm looking at the show notes and it said hair splinters. And I'm just thinking of a way to describe as something small that got in as a splinter. You know, like Tiny Tim or Big John. [01:52:31] Speaker A: Yeah, no, actual hair splinter. [01:52:33] Speaker D: All right. [01:52:34] Speaker A: Hair that has become a splinter in your. [01:52:36] Speaker B: I did look at the bottom of my foot. I just couldn't see the tiny hair that was inside of it. I was looking for a cut or a abrasion, a laceration. I wasn't looking for a hair. Like if I saw a hair on my foot, I would just be like, there's a hair on my. What? How would that hurt me? [01:52:49] Speaker A: Not that I ever actually wish for a hair splinter. I just wish it would have happened recently to me instead of like months ago. So it was fresh in my mind. So I could be as pissed off as you are because it really is. Like, it really hurts. It sucks when you get them. Like, it's the worst. It's terrible. [01:53:01] Speaker B: I was like, there's something wrong with my foot. [01:53:03] Speaker A: It's an inexplicable, like, not that it's like so painful that you can't function, but it's an inexplicable amount of pain for something so small. [01:53:10] Speaker B: Well, that's why I was pissed off. Because when I realized it was a hair, I was like, how could a hair be causing me so much pain? [01:53:16] Speaker A: The hell? Get out of here. [01:53:17] Speaker B: Hair. [01:53:17] Speaker A: Yeah, I'd be mini gassed up about this too. [01:53:19] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm super guessed up now. Look, can we change that super on the title board? [01:53:24] Speaker A: No. [01:53:24] Speaker B: Okay, well, I'll stay mini guest up about it. Go on to the next. [01:53:28] Speaker A: All right, with that, let's get into King of the North. All right, so in case anyone doesn't know by now, this Is our year long AFC north pick them competition at the end of the season. Whoever comes in last place gets punished. In the preseason two years ago, Kenny had a gross of eggs thrown at him by fans in the muni lot before a game. In the preseason last year, Kenny has his hair and beard shaved clean off. Coming up for losing this past season, Kenny is going to get hit a few times by John Hughes. That's this week, man. By the time this comes out to our listeners, you will have been hit senior hit style by John Hughes, former defensive tackle for the Cleveland Browns. [01:54:13] Speaker B: Thank you. [01:54:14] Speaker A: How's that feel? [01:54:16] Speaker B: I'll let you know afterwards. [01:54:19] Speaker D: I really hope Kenny's still with us next week. [01:54:23] Speaker B: Bones. Moving up to the main desk. [01:54:24] Speaker A: Yep. And then this year the loser will be getting a Brazilian wax. Kenny excited to do that? [01:54:31] Speaker B: We'll see. [01:54:32] Speaker A: I bet. I bet your wife's excited. [01:54:34] Speaker B: She probably is excited. [01:54:35] Speaker A: She's like, ooh, this will be interesting. [01:54:37] Speaker B: Yeah, change things up a little bit. [01:54:39] Speaker A: Yeah. But anyways, let's get into the. I don't want to talk about that anymore. Let's get into things first things first, I want to remind everyone that Bone is the reigning defending King of the North. Second, John Hughes has joined King of the north this year. And finally. [01:54:56] Speaker B: I'm a clown. [01:54:58] Speaker A: Just didn't know if you knew where we were going there. So let's remind everybody of current standings after week four. Week four, we're way ahead of that. After week six, I'm the clown. You are a clown. [01:55:10] Speaker E: Bone. [01:55:11] Speaker A: 13 and seven on top. I'm right behind you at 12 and eight. Big John Hughes at nine and 11 and Kenny bringing up the rear as always. Eight and 12, how's it feel? You're on track back. [01:55:23] Speaker B: I had a big week last week. I'm coming back. John's getting that taint waxed. [01:55:28] Speaker A: And with that, let's get into this week's games. The Ravens are on by, so we don't have any for them. [01:55:32] Speaker B: I picked the Ravens. [01:55:34] Speaker A: You lose because they didn't win. [01:55:36] Speaker B: Can't lose. [01:55:39] Speaker A: Next up, Cincinnati host Pittsburgh. And we'll start with Bone on this one. [01:55:48] Speaker D: Cincinnati host Pittsburgh. Week two of Joe Flacco. Cincinnati's still really bad. I. I gotta go Pittsburgh. [01:55:56] Speaker A: Okay, straight to the point. Kenny, who you got? [01:56:00] Speaker B: Cincinnati is still really bad. I'll go Pittsburgh. [01:56:04] Speaker A: Guys, Cincinnati is really bad. I'm going to go Pittsburgh on this one. John, who you got? [01:56:09] Speaker F: We have a Thursday night game, Steelers vs. The Bengals at home. And with this division matchup is going to be A good one. I feel like it's going to be a close game and it's what it looks like. The Bengals have started to find their quite quarterback solution with Joe Flacco. With the trade from Cleveland still not going to be enough to get it done against the Steelers this week as the Bengals defense continues to struggle, I think Aaron Rodgers and the rest of their offense is going to be too much for the Bengals to handle. I feel like it's going to be a close one. I feel like Flacco is starting to get into a rhythm towards the end of that game last week. So we might see more good things coming from Flacco, but I don't think it's going to be enough to get it done at the end of the day. And I have the. The Bengal or. Yeah. The Bengals losing this one against the Steelers. [01:57:02] Speaker A: All right. And then next up, you're only two games this week, so a lot. It's gonna be hard for you to continue your comeback with just two games. [01:57:09] Speaker B: I can still not fall further behind. [01:57:12] Speaker A: That's true. I guess that's a good point. The Browns host the Dolphins. Kenny, who do you got in the one? [01:57:17] Speaker B: Is Kevin Stefanski still the coach? [01:57:19] Speaker A: Yes. [01:57:20] Speaker B: Dolphins. [01:57:21] Speaker A: What's your score? [01:57:25] Speaker B: Dolphins 27, Browns 1212. [01:57:34] Speaker A: Okay. Is that four field goals? [01:57:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:57:36] Speaker A: Okay. [01:57:36] Speaker B: It's definitely not a touchdown. That's fair. [01:57:40] Speaker A: I'm going to go. [01:57:43] Speaker C: Foreign. [01:57:46] Speaker A: I'm tempted. I'm really tempted. [01:57:47] Speaker B: Take the Browns. [01:57:48] Speaker A: Just do it. [01:57:48] Speaker B: Come on. Take the Browns. They're the favorite. [01:57:51] Speaker A: All right, here's the deal. [01:57:52] Speaker B: Vegas has the Browns. [01:57:54] Speaker A: Here's the deal. The Browns have a top two defense in the entire league. [01:58:02] Speaker B: Just pick them. [01:58:04] Speaker A: They're facing the worst rushing attack in the entire league. Her second worst, whatever it is. They're also facing a team that's the worst against the run and Quinn. Sean Judkins is not going to get the rock because we have Kevin Stefanik as coach and he's the worst coach of all time. All right, that might be a stretch, but he's really bad. He's the worst coach right now for the Browns. [01:58:28] Speaker B: I think he's the worst coach of all time. [01:58:30] Speaker A: Yeah. So I'm going to go with Dolphins in this one. [01:58:32] Speaker B: He's definitely the worst coach of the year of all time. [01:58:35] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, worst. He's the absolute worst two time coach of the year. That's for sure. I will 100% percent get behind that. But anyways, I'm going Dolphins in this one and I'm gonna go dolphins 20. Browns 18. Yeah. That's six field goals. [01:58:54] Speaker B: That feels like the Browns actually winning. If the Browns score more than 17 points. [01:58:57] Speaker A: Oh, you're right. I'm going Browns. I'm going dolphins 20, browns 15. [01:59:00] Speaker B: That's better. [01:59:01] Speaker A: Yeah, because we're not scoring more than more than 17 points. [01:59:05] Speaker B: I hope it's 20 to 18 now. [01:59:07] Speaker A: I'm gonna punch you right in the Jimmies. [01:59:10] Speaker C: Wow. [01:59:12] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:59:13] Speaker A: John, who you got? [01:59:14] Speaker F: Browns at home versus Miami this week, and with both teams having struggled in the beginning of this year with a 1 and 5 start, it's going to be up to who wants them more. Right. Both teams are starving for a win, and with Cleveland looking like they're on a downward kind of slope, downward spiral these past few weeks. Miami has been keeping their games tight, only losing the past few games between, you know, decent opponents, with the Chargers last week only losing by less than three points. So for this one, I'm going to take Miami, and I got a final score of Browns 17, Miami 20. [01:59:59] Speaker A: All right, and Bone, what do you got? [02:00:03] Speaker D: Home game. [02:00:03] Speaker B: Do it, Bone. Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it. [02:00:07] Speaker D: We don't play any better at home than away. All right, dolphins, 20 to 20 to 13. [02:00:14] Speaker A: Bone was like, it doesn't hurt me if I just pick the same as Everybody else. So 20 to 13. [02:00:20] Speaker B: Bones just playing defense now on King. [02:00:22] Speaker A: Of the north, he's like, I'm ahead. I don't give a. He made it so I could. [02:00:25] Speaker D: I really do not think the Browns are going to win. So I'm not. I'm not. I'm not gonna pick them. I'm not doing the homer pick. [02:00:31] Speaker A: That's fine. That's fine. [02:00:32] Speaker D: I tried that last week. [02:00:33] Speaker A: Yeah, but with that, let me remind everybody to call the burning of Sportscast Hot Take outline double call and leave your hot takes on the hot take hotline. Remember, these are hot takes. We want hot takes. [02:00:42] Speaker B: We want hot takes. We want hot takes. We want hot takes. [02:00:45] Speaker A: 330-2278-0813-3022-7808, 1330227808, 13302278, 8081 call now. Operators are not standing by. We'll put you on the air. Might make funny, might not. Depends on how sad you are. [02:00:58] Speaker B: Cause now or we'll kick you in a Jimmy's. [02:01:00] Speaker A: Kick you right in Jimmy's. And be sure to check out our gear. Www.thetapmedia.com shop and that'll do it for us. Kenny, what can we expect next week. [02:01:07] Speaker B: We will be live on Sunday night. Look for us live on YouTube, Facebook and X as we recap the Week 7 matchup against the Dolphins. We should be on right around 9:30. We have been pretty close every week this year except for the time they weren't and we were on earlier. [02:01:23] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [02:01:24] Speaker B: Next Thursday we'll be back with the Week 8 preview for the game against Mike Vrabel and New England Patriots with another Brownsbacker interview. I think Seacoast hopefully. [02:01:34] Speaker A: Hopefully the Seacoast Brownsbackers. Yeah, we're waiting here back for sure. But to confirm. [02:01:39] Speaker B: But we'll talk to a Brownsbacker. [02:01:40] Speaker A: Yeah, we'll talk to one. 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It helps us continue to grow and it helps you guys will be supporting us and we'll continue to grow together, tweak our formula when necessary and keep bringing you the best damn Cleveland Browns pot in the land. You know what that takes us to, Kenny Facts for days. Kenny, what do you got for us today? [02:02:41] Speaker B: I got some packs for days. [02:02:42] Speaker A: I want to hear them. Are you ready? I love facts. [02:02:46] Speaker B: Just so you know, these technically are whale facts. Whale facts. [02:02:52] Speaker D: Oh my. [02:02:53] Speaker B: Oh my God. Because there are facts about dolphins. [02:02:59] Speaker A: I already learned that all whales are not dolphins, but all dolphins are whales. It's kind of like bourbon and whiskey. [02:03:04] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, it's exactly like that actually. Oh, good analogy. [02:03:08] Speaker A: Thank you. [02:03:09] Speaker B: Number one, Facts for days. Facts for days. Bottlenose dolphins ovens are usually fairly slow swimmers traveling at about 2 mph. However, they can reach speeds of over 30 mph for brief periods, making them faster than Tyree Kill. Oh, well, before he busted his leg off. [02:03:29] Speaker A: It's in 47 places. [02:03:31] Speaker D: Still. [02:03:32] Speaker B: Still out there. [02:03:32] Speaker A: Feels bad. [02:03:33] Speaker B: Find his leg. [02:03:34] Speaker A: Can't collect all the pieces. Number two, once Humpty Dumpty gets Broken. He can't put him back together. Together again. [02:03:40] Speaker B: Yep. Pandora, don't go back in the box. [02:03:41] Speaker A: Nope. [02:03:42] Speaker B: Number two. Dolphins like to blow bubbles. [02:03:47] Speaker A: I didn't think that's where you're going with it. Go on. [02:03:50] Speaker B: When hunting, dolphins produce bubbles to herd their prey to the surface. They use a specialized hunting technique called fish whacking. They don't know it's called that. Where they use their tail to hit fish and stick stun them, making them easier to swallow head first so none of their spines get caught in their throat on the way down their gullet. [02:04:11] Speaker A: Smart and nice. I actually knew about this, but that's still a good fact. [02:04:14] Speaker B: It's a great fact. Number three. Dolphins can turn off half their brain. [02:04:23] Speaker A: Wait. [02:04:23] Speaker B: Bottlenose dolphins sleep with just one half of their brain at a time and always keep one eye open. It's believed they do this to keep an eye out for their group. To make sure they stick together. Together and look out for predators like sharks. [02:04:39] Speaker D: That's cool. [02:04:40] Speaker B: Could you imagine just being able to turn off half your brain at a time? [02:04:42] Speaker D: Yeah. Rest. [02:04:43] Speaker B: Rest. [02:04:45] Speaker A: No. [02:04:45] Speaker B: And then turn it back on. [02:04:46] Speaker D: We could be so much more efficient. [02:04:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [02:04:48] Speaker B: We should start trying this. Pioneer it for humans. [02:04:51] Speaker A: Brought to you by tapping media. Turning off half your brain. [02:04:56] Speaker B: Bonus fact. [02:04:57] Speaker A: No. [02:04:58] Speaker D: Yeah. [02:04:59] Speaker B: Bonus fact. You're gonna get it. Dolphins. Dolphins get a hero wrap. In a lot of our pop culture, sharks are often vilified as the bad guys. But dolphins can be pretty ugly. Often killing baby dolphins to eliminate competition and volleying smaller animals like young sharks for recreation. [02:05:20] Speaker A: Yeah, that's where I was going with that. I didn't. They're the. They don't kill their own young for fun. Just to. Just to. [02:05:27] Speaker B: Just to stave off other males. Dolphin may. Mating can be excessively violent and coercive, involving kidnapping and forced copulation. Male alliances or gangs often abduct and isolate a female from her home range to reduce competition from other males and then aggressively bite and strike them with their tails. Fortunately for the female, much like intercourse with Ronnie, it is brief, typically lasting only a few seconds. I guess in the dolphin world it's more palatable to call it forced copulation than rape. [02:06:04] Speaker C: Wow. [02:06:08] Speaker B: That, my friends, is back for days. [02:06:10] Speaker A: This is like the fourth time you've insulted my sexual prowess. I accept. [02:06:17] Speaker B: I know you would. [02:06:18] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [02:06:19] Speaker B: Got to call spade a spade. [02:06:21] Speaker A: I feel like I've been forcefully copying. [02:06:27] Speaker B: How's that butthole feel? [02:06:30] Speaker A: It's not good, but it's tight. Does that sound appetizing to you? [02:06:38] Speaker D: Bone I don't know. I'm going to sleep. It's getting late. I was up early. [02:06:43] Speaker A: All right. [02:06:44] Speaker D: Bon appetit. [02:06:49] Speaker B: Don't just be a part of the problem, b. The whole damn problem. [02:06:52] Speaker A: And only you can prevent river fires. [02:06:58] Speaker B: Burning river. [02:06:59] Speaker A: Burning river. What was the song we were singing earlier? [02:07:05] Speaker B: We sang lots of songs. I'm on the top of the mountain Looking diamond creation and the only inspiration I can find. [02:07:16] Speaker A: What the is that? [02:07:17] Speaker C: I don't know. [02:07:17] Speaker B: Carpenters. [02:07:19] Speaker A: Good night, Cleveland. [02:07:20] Speaker B: Hi, Cleveland. [02:07:21] Speaker D: Good night. [02:07:23] Speaker A: Quiet on set. [02:07:24] Speaker C: I now have two loves in my life. [02:07:28] Speaker A: Big city living and a voodoo woman named Phyllis. I didn't think we'd be getting into Brad Pitt. [02:07:36] Speaker B: I can't even say I didn't think we'd be getting into Brad Pitt's ass. [02:07:40] Speaker A: Yeah, didn't think we'd get in there. [02:07:43] Speaker B: We talk a lot of analingus on this show. [02:07:45] Speaker A: So put your right foot in and take your right foot out. Then put your right foot in and shut the hell up. Because it's not time for the hokey pokey. It's time for the burning river. Sports cab. Motorboat. You play the motorboat? [02:07:59] Speaker B: You motorboat? [02:08:00] Speaker A: Son of a. [02:08:01] Speaker B: You old seal. [02:08:02] Speaker C: Are you. [02:08:02] Speaker B: You know, I was thinking the. During that interview. [02:08:04] Speaker A: What? What were you? Nothing. Cuz you don't have thoughts? Cuz you're a brainless idiot. [02:08:08] Speaker B: Wow. [02:08:09] Speaker A: My name is Utrid Son of Uhtred, by the way. I want my foreskin back. It doesn't matter what you think. [02:08:16] Speaker B: Women's Guide to To Anal Sex. And it was the second edition. Who makes second edition? [02:08:22] Speaker D: The weather outside is weather. [02:08:24] Speaker A: The other one. The finger. The finger. Eating food. Fingers. [02:08:27] Speaker C: Oh, my God. [02:08:28] Speaker B: I have. [02:08:30] Speaker C: He everywhere. [02:08:32] Speaker D: Yes. [02:08:32] Speaker B: Ejaculate all over my body and my genitals. [02:08:35] Speaker D: Yes. [02:08:35] Speaker C: Oh, no. We suck again. [02:08:38] Speaker D: You don't need fundamentals when you got heart. [02:08:41] Speaker B: And Jesus. And Jesus. [02:08:43] Speaker D: That's right. [02:08:44] Speaker A: Touchdown. Anyway, what do you mean funny? [02:08:46] Speaker B: Funny how? [02:08:47] Speaker C: How am I funny? [02:08:47] Speaker A: It's going down. I'm yelling. [02:08:50] Speaker B: Timber. [02:08:53] Speaker A: Should we start a meat podcast? Cast like, like, like, like the meat pod. Slow roasted. [02:09:01] Speaker E: The leads are weak. [02:09:03] Speaker C: The leads are weak. [02:09:05] Speaker A: Leads are weak. [02:09:06] Speaker C: You're weak. [02:09:07] Speaker B: Then we should send a team of oil core drillers a la Armageddon to Mars to have them access the newly discovered reservoirs of water traps 7 to 12 miles under the surface that when released, will cover the entirety of everything on the planet. Less than a mile high. [02:09:16] Speaker A: All I do is win, win, win, no matter what. [02:09:19] Speaker C: Erroneous. [02:09:20] Speaker A: Erroneous on both counts. I mean, when I Last year when I won and went home, you know, my wife's pants hit the ground. [02:09:26] Speaker B: Wow. But damn, I'm sorry I hijacked your segment for a second to do some good podcasting. You know why, mister? Because you drove a Hyundai to get here tonight. [02:09:37] Speaker A: I drove an $80,000 BMW. That's my name. I think we've officially lost all of our more conservative viewers, so I don't think they want to listen any longer. [02:09:49] Speaker D: It's Mother Nature. [02:09:50] Speaker A: I live my life a quarter mile at a time. [02:09:52] Speaker B: Where's logo girl when you need her? I desperately want to make love. We need cheese girl now. Who's canceled now who's canceled now? [02:10:04] Speaker A: Probably me. [02:10:05] Speaker B: You making it for the fat people. [02:10:07] Speaker A: I'm not just you. [02:10:09] Speaker B: We're a whole race, basically. [02:10:13] Speaker A: No way. You just straight just finger bang their salad. [02:10:18] Speaker D: You first get shocked and then you get the shocker. [02:10:24] Speaker B: You like to see almost naked. [02:10:25] Speaker A: That's cool, man. [02:10:26] Speaker C: Whatever. [02:10:26] Speaker D: No, no, no, no, no. [02:10:28] Speaker A: Most people like they're driving along and they're like in between meals, they're like. [02:10:31] Speaker B: I'm a little hungry. [02:10:31] Speaker A: I'm going to have a granola bar. Like, I need a cheeseburger. 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