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[00:00:44] Speaker A: It's time time for the Burning River Sportscast.
[00:00:48] Speaker B: I'm impressed you didn't mess it up this time.
[00:00:51] Speaker A: Dolphins 20, Browns 3. We'll break it all down right now. Welcome into a very special post game live edition of the Burning River Sportscast presented by the fine folks at Tapping Media. I'm Kenny Thunder joining me tonight. You know he's a liar because his pants are always on fire. He's red hot Ronnie Jams. And there are 206 bones in the human body, but only one big bone man. Gentlemen, good evening. Happy to have you both to share in another ugly yet predictable Brown's loss.
[00:01:21] Speaker B: I'm calling, calling you out here. You already used that opening for Bone before.
[00:01:27] Speaker A: I might have used a similar one, but not that one in particular.
[00:01:30] Speaker B: I think he used it.
And again, I'm just, I'm always dreading the fact that I have to spend Sunday nights with you.
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But on today's show, this is what you look forward to. A. A recap of this just thrilling, thrilling game. That was the Week 17 loss to the Dolphins, and that's probably it. We're going to try and keep this short because I don't really.
This the season's dragging. I'm about ready for it to be over, guys.
[00:03:36] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:03:37] Speaker A: You weren't entertained today?
[00:03:40] Speaker B: I mean, yeah, sure, if you like watching DTR throw interceptions. I was very entertained. It was. It was fun.
[00:03:46] Speaker A: He didn't just throw an interception today. He also fumbled the ball.
[00:03:50] Speaker B: Good. Yeah.
[00:03:52] Speaker A: Don't forget.
[00:03:53] Speaker B: But yeah. So let's go ahead and get things started by reminding everyone to call the burning sportscast hot take hotline. Every call and leave your hot takes on the hot take hotline. Remember, these are hot takes. There's. Everybody should be pissed off about the Browns right now. If you're not, you're wrong. You have problems. I don't know how you can be a Browns fan and not be upset. I just don't get it. So the number to call for those hot takes. 330, 227. 8080. Leave us a hot take on the hot take hotline. And we will put that on the air in our show later this week.
[00:04:24] Speaker A: We've already had a few roll in, so keep them coming.
[00:04:27] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. And so let's get into the Week 17 recap. We're going to start with.
I guess I don't even know where to go. I guess we'll just. We'll just get into it. I don't know. I don't know. This was so hard to watch that I don't. I don't even know where to start with it.
[00:04:47] Speaker A: Luckily, Hunger Games all day, Hunger Games marathon. So I was able to flip back and forth.
[00:04:54] Speaker B: Nice. You catch most of that.
[00:04:56] Speaker C: Nice.
[00:04:57] Speaker A: Yeah, I got. There was something entertaining on today.
[00:05:01] Speaker B: Did. Did Katniss take down the government?
[00:05:05] Speaker A: She did. Yeah. They. For some reason, they started off with mocking J1 and 2 and then they started off with the original one later in the day. So.
[00:05:15] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:05:16] Speaker A: Yeah, let's shoot you for that.
[00:05:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
Anyways. Yeah, I mean, I guess we'll start with our defense and. And their offense. Their offense was a lot more productive than ours, so at least that was, you know, somebody could score today and it wasn't us. Tyler Huntley, you know, former Browns quarterback, 22 of 26, 225 yards and a touchdown. And then added 52 rush yards and a touchdown there as well. So he's. He's pretty much your whole team.
[00:05:45] Speaker A: I'll say. The. The former Browns today pretty much tore it up. Jordan Poyer and Snoop Huntley there.
[00:05:54] Speaker B: Yeah, I just. It's crazy to me that they consciously made the decision to let Huntley walk and keep gtr.
[00:06:05] Speaker A: Why is that crazy to you? This team doesn't care about winning.
[00:06:09] Speaker B: When you put it that way.
[00:06:13] Speaker A: When's the last time they did something that showed you they were interested in winning a football game?
[00:06:17] Speaker B: That's true. That's true. I mean, I guess maybe I should just reframe the way I think about things when it comes to the Browns. Like, I should stop expecting anything other than. Does this give us a chance to lose?
[00:06:29] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, basically, the Browns are just a philanthropic arm at this point of the Jimmy and D. Haslam Foundation. They just are like, how can we get these guys to go out in the community and give away food and TVs?
[00:06:39] Speaker B: Is that what it is?
[00:06:40] Speaker A: That's what they do now. They don't. They don't play football on Sundays, that's for sure.
[00:06:44] Speaker B: Football. Never heard of her.
[00:06:46] Speaker A: Never heard of her.
[00:06:47] Speaker B: Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, it was just. It's just embarrassing the fact that. That Tyler Huntley is so competent to what we have.
And I'm not saying Tyler Huntley's, like, lighting things. Like, he's not a great quarterback. He's just not. He's a career backup, but he's.
He's probably like four and a half times the player that DTR is only.
[00:07:06] Speaker A: Through four incompletions today. Four.
[00:07:08] Speaker B: Yeah. That's pretty good.
[00:07:11] Speaker A: And didn't turn the ball over. That's. That's what you want out of your backup quarterback? That's it. That's all you want?
[00:07:16] Speaker B: Yeah. So he could have went two for his next 21 and he would have had the same completion as DTR.
[00:07:25] Speaker A: Yeah. That's good.
[00:07:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. And then I, you know, I texted you guys at halftime And I said DTR had 58 yards at halftime, passing. And. And believe it or not, that's a huge, huge upgrade from last week's. Like, was it 15?
[00:07:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:07:41] Speaker B: Yeah. So the fact that we just keep trotting this guy out there, I mean, obviously it's a tank job at this point. You're just lose as many games as you can. I don't think anybody can argue that.
[00:07:51] Speaker A: But, I mean, it was just embarrassing to watch again. I mean, this team is allergic to the end zone. At no point that I was I even concerned that they may SC touchdown like that would never even. The thought never even crossed my mind. I was like, there's, there's just no way. I will give, I will give Ken Dorsey and Stefanski credit this week in that they did essentially what we asked them to do last week that they just forgot, if they forgot how to coach apparently offensively with a young quarterback. Because there was a concerted effort today to get Jerry Judy the ball. And it wasn't like he had a career game, but he had a nice game. They forced the ball to him in space. They did a lot of those bubble passes and things. In fact they did so many of them that they threw a couple of them backwards behind the line of scrimmage and kept almost turning the ball over. So that was good.
[00:08:41] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean to that point, Kenny, 18 targets.
He had 18 targets today, which has to be a season high. 12 receptions, 94 yards. So a decent game out of Jerry Judy. But I mean outside of that, the offense did literally nothing.
[00:08:56] Speaker C: So yeah, I'd be curious to see on those 18 targets if Jerry Judy was the only person DTR looked at because I'm quite a few out of quite a few of them. I know he was. I can't say that for all of them, but I think they did give him a lot of just single read plays to Jerry Judy and just said throw it to him because I think that's all he can do. So.
[00:09:16] Speaker A: Right.
[00:09:17] Speaker B: Yeah. And at this point in the season, DTR is now up to no touchdowns, to six interceptions. I believe it is.
[00:09:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:09:25] Speaker B: And then now he's got a. He fumbled one away today. So I mean his, his touchdown to turnover ratio is through the roof in the wrong direction.
And I just, it's. It's wild to me. To your point bone, what you were just talking about with was Jerry Judy the only guy? Because you watch the game and there's absolutely no progression. It's literally just like here's the guy. If he's not open, I'm. I'm going to run for my life.
[00:09:55] Speaker A: Which is what DTR is though. Right? So like I said, like, I'm not saying like this was good. I'm just saying I at least give Kendorcy and team credit this week because that's what you have to do with a guy like DTR is give him easy reads, get guys easy completions in space and hope they can do something with the ball because you can't count on DTR to win you the Game. That's just never going to happen. He's never going to be a drop back passer that goes through his progressions and, and makes the right read. He can't read a defense. He can't throw to the second level. He has to have one look, one read and he. The ball has to come out. Yeah, one look, Blue steel.
That ball has to be coming out when he hits his bat, the back of his drop. Because if he has the ball any longer than that, he's either running the ball or he's, you know, in a busted play because he can't find anyone.
[00:10:45] Speaker B: Yeah. It's just unfortunate. It's really hard to watch. He's just not good. Like, I, we can't, we can't say it enough. He's definitely like, I don't know how you even keep him on the roster after this year after you see these last few games.
[00:10:58] Speaker A: Well, and again, while I'm giving guys their flowers, I'll at least give Kevin Stefanski credit that in the post game presser he said, I don't know what we're going to do at quarterback.
He at least didn't come out and say, well, I mean, DTR gives us the best chance to win. So.
[00:11:14] Speaker B: Yeah.
I mean. Yeah. And then we'll kind of turn this over a little bit. We'll talk about our defense. So Miles Garrett did come up with two sacks today. Not that they really meant anything. I mean, obviously these are all garbage games. They're not just garbage time anymore. It's just garbage games. Like, we're not. We don't have a chance to win them. We just. It. The only thing that our team can look forward to is people like Miles Garrett racking up stats and just saying, just add that to my career total.
[00:11:44] Speaker A: I. Yeah, I'm. It would be nice if we, like, could win a game, but we can't. We don't. We don't do that.
[00:11:50] Speaker B: No.
[00:11:50] Speaker C: I saw a. A stat. I don't know, just on whatever online, but it said he has 14 sacks and four consecutive years and he's the first NFL player to ever do that, which is kind of cool.
[00:12:03] Speaker A: Very impressive.
[00:12:04] Speaker B: But he's only got 12 right now. Or wait, the two today, I think may have 14.
[00:12:09] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:12:09] Speaker B: Yeah, I gotcha. Yeah. That is pretty cool then. That's. That's a good stat. And he's. I mean, that goes right along with. Just last week we were talking about. He was the youngest player, the only player ever in NFL history under the age of 29 with 100 sacks is. So it's all. All good stuff. And. And Miles keeps doing his thing. Hopefully he scared the front office enough to make some serious moves and figure out how we're gonna actually win some games next year.
[00:12:34] Speaker C: But at least make it exciting because, I mean, this is the most boring football season I could ever think of. Most disappointing, most boring. Just.
I don't know.
[00:12:43] Speaker A: Well, yeah, I mean, you watch this team again and today, and I'll give the defense credit, like, the defense played pretty well again today.
I know they were down a number of guys that were banged up. Obviously Tua didn't play, but the defense out, honestly, like you're playing an NFL offense, it has other good players on it that gave up 20 points. One of those was, you know, give Mike McDaniel Daniels his flowers. Like they had his beat in three minutes left in the game and he's like, let's throw another touchdown just for the hell of it.
There's no reason. We literally turned the ball over like the 13 yard line with three minutes left. And then he was like, you know what? Let's. Let's keep throwing it, run it up.
But, you know, that's. We leave no doubt that's why you play the game. Because you don't, you know, they pay you to stop the other team and you can't stop them. They score. So.
But honestly, like, the best offense this team could run right now is just to have Bojo just put the ball as soon as they get it on first down and just hope your defense can score.
[00:13:42] Speaker B: Let the defense come up with a turnover.
[00:13:44] Speaker A: The defense is at least doing well. I mean, the defense hasn't been the team that we expected them to be this year. But I would say over the last four to six weeks, this defense has at least showed up to play most of these games.
[00:13:55] Speaker B: I agree. I'm actually very encouraged by how the defense has played the second half of the season because they kind of got their shit together. And if the offense would have held up their end of the bargain, you know, we'd be in a much different place right now and we'd probably be right in the thick of things. But unfortunately, we haven't been able to score a point since like week 12.
So, you know, what. Is that when DTR took over? I'm not sure, but it's. Since then we haven't scored a point.
What'd you say, Bone D Hop made.
[00:14:31] Speaker C: A field goal today?
[00:14:32] Speaker B: Yeah, he did. He didn't miss like the first game since that same week 12 that D hop didn't miss a field goal, and.
[00:14:41] Speaker A: Let me tell you, the crowd went nuts.
[00:14:43] Speaker B: Yeah, they were excited. They said, thank God.
[00:14:46] Speaker C: Yeah, I didn't see it. Was it a long one?
[00:14:49] Speaker A: I, I, no, it was like a 28 yarder or something.
[00:14:52] Speaker B: It was 25. 25.
[00:14:54] Speaker C: Nice.
[00:14:55] Speaker B: It was literally a chip shot. If you would have missed it, the whole stadium might have rioted.
But it's, it's like, that's how you know it's bad. The Browns fans have officially gotten to the point where we give sarcastic cheers. Like that's what we do.
[00:15:09] Speaker A: Yeah, well, there's nothing real to cheer about, so.
[00:15:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. I guess the only.
Let's see. Well, one more thing before we get to that. Coaches in front office.
Here's the last thing I'll say. I know you gave them their flowers a little bit today, Kenny, as far as, like, they did a little bit better with game planning and whatever. But my question is just, just with DTR being out there and we're now, what is it? 3 and 3 and 13 on the season with the expectations coming into this year, everything else. How are people still defending any of these guys? I spent the whole, like, all throughout the holidays, I had multiple people tell me how great of a coach Kevin Stefanski is and how good Andrew Barry is at his job. And I said, can you give me literally any evidence specifically that Andrew Barry is good at his job? Any.
[00:16:04] Speaker A: There's none.
[00:16:05] Speaker B: And.
[00:16:08] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, look, this year's been a total train wreck and a disaster, and it was their fault. It was their fault entirely. And now the fact that, I mean, the last couple of days I've just been sick to my stomach over this because we've, we had the reports came out from, you know, Rapaport and other guys about not only are they restructuring desean's contract, which is fine, to make some cap room for next year, but ultimately that just means he's going to be on the roster longer and that they have no plans to move on from Kevin Stefanski at this point, which, again, anything can happen, right? Votes of confidence happen all the time, from front offices to coaching staffs. And, you know, we see on, you know, Black Friday or Black Monday or whatever they call it in the NFL these days, guys lose their jobs. So I'm still crossing my fingers for that, that they just clean house.
But just the reporting that came out was just that it seems like Andrew Barry and Kevin Stefanski are both safe for this. This at least one more season just absolutely makes my stomach Turn.
[00:17:07] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, you know, we, the Cleveland Browns fans have grown accustomed to kind of poking fun at themselves to get through some of these, the seasons that are like this. Right.
And so I'll just do it one more time here. The, you know, what other place can you go? What is it now? Like six games under.500 over four years and you get, you basically get a vote of confidence and an extension.
That's what we, we said. You know what? We're sticking by this guy. He got us to, to 400 football. We love that 400.
Like, I just don't understand. It was the whole, literally the whole time at Christmas, like, you know, I was fielding. People were just asking me and talking to me about Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Barry. But Kevin Stefanski, they're like, he's two time coach of the year. I'm like, okay, the one year he. It was Covid year and he didn't even coach in the playoff game that we won. And then he came back and we lost.
And then the other year, Penny. Yeah, the other year that he won coach of the year, we were heading down a disastrous rabbit hole like we are this year, until Joe Flacco came in and saved.
[00:18:23] Speaker A: Save the day, I guess.
[00:18:25] Speaker B: Yeah, I just. It's just crazy to me that there's so many people defending these guys.
[00:18:29] Speaker A: But speaking of former Browns players, Joe Flacco threw for 300 yards and two touchdowns today.
[00:18:35] Speaker B: Nice. Nice.
He's washed. That's what everybody was saying all year, but. Yeah, that. Well, in case anyone's wondering, that's probably as much yards as DTR is thrown for this entire season. So.
[00:18:50] Speaker A: Yeah, except for touchdowns.
[00:18:57] Speaker B: But yeah, besides that, I mean, I guess the only thing we have to look forward to now is we are. We are now up to the number three draft pick.
Yeah, number three.
[00:19:07] Speaker A: That's good. I remember a time when we had the number one draft pick.
We drafted a guy and yeah, we had these debates on the radio all the time about whether or not that guy was the top 12 or top 15 quarterback. Well, just so happens that he's now officially number two. Tied for number two in touchdowns and number two in yards on the season. So I guess that makes him a top two quarterback in the league.
He wasn't good enough to be top 12 here in Cleveland. We were worried about that because. Because he tore his labrum in his throwing shoulder. We were like, ah, that's trash. This guy sucks.
[00:19:45] Speaker C: Get him out of here.
[00:19:46] Speaker B: He's no desean Watson, that's for sure.
[00:19:48] Speaker A: So, yeah, I mean, I guess my point is, like, does it matter what pick we have? Because even when. Even when you draft the right guy, even when you draft a guy that changes your culture and you start winning games and you make it to the playoffs for the first time in 30 years, it still wasn't good enough for Browns fans over this front office. So.
[00:20:06] Speaker B: Well, what are we.
[00:20:08] Speaker A: What are we going to do with that third overall pick? Yeah, I mean, I mean, it's just asinine. I mean, to think about the fact that Baker Mayfield is thrown 39 touchdowns this year. I think he's rushed for three more. So that's 42 touchdowns overall.
[00:20:25] Speaker B: It.
[00:20:28] Speaker A: Since 1966, there's been 721 quarterbacks that have played in the NFL that have debuted in the NFL. 11 of those men have thrown for 40 touchdowns in a season.
So I guess he's top 12 all time, if we want to get technical.
[00:20:49] Speaker B: Yeah, like I said, he is. No DeSean Watson.
[00:20:54] Speaker A: No. DeShaun. No.
[00:20:55] Speaker B: They got that part of it right, that's for sure.
[00:20:58] Speaker C: I mean, have you looked at desean's body of work, Kenny?
[00:21:02] Speaker A: I heard he got two handies just today.
[00:21:04] Speaker B: Yeah, he's been doing well. He's been doing well. It's like all day everyday. Massages right now.
[00:21:10] Speaker A: So he just got one of them all day fast. It's a massage.
[00:21:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Yep.
[00:21:16] Speaker A: Just keep them coming.
[00:21:17] Speaker B: He just posts up and he's like, bring me another.
Yeah, I don't think we should go too far down that road, guys. Let's just do our nominees for the burning of Sportscast dog of the week. Kenny, who's your nominee?
[00:21:33] Speaker A: Oh, gosh.
Who's my nominee?
Look, I know that he didn't have the biggest game ever, but I'll go. Jordan Akins. Um, Jordan Akins was within Joku out, I think, stepped up and was a good safety valve for DTR all day. I mean, not the DTR throws a whole lot of yards or completions, but I think he had six catches or so for 50 yards. So.
Yeah, that's probably like a third of what, DTR 3 for today. So.
[00:22:06] Speaker B: Yep, eight targets. Good work. 49 yards. Yep. All right, that's. I like that bone. Who's your. Who's your nominee here?
[00:22:15] Speaker C: I'll go Miles. I. I'll take miles. Two sacksy. Yeah, he's up to 14 now in the season.
I didn't watch the entire game, but when I did, he was. I mean, he was in the backfield all day just pushing that left tackle around.
[00:22:31] Speaker B: So, Miles, this is what it's come to, guys. Bone doesn't even watch the game anymore.
[00:22:37] Speaker A: Their tackles had a rough day. I mean, that's two good tackles. Kendall Lamb and Taron Armstead, and they did not have a good time against that Browns defensive line.
[00:22:46] Speaker B: Bone, it's okay. I took a break in the middle of it to just go out and grill some burgers. I was like, eh, that's what I was doing.
[00:22:51] Speaker C: I was making turkey salad.
[00:22:53] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I get it.
[00:22:55] Speaker C: You know what? I had some turkey and I was like, what can I do with this? And I found a recipe and it was pretty good.
[00:23:01] Speaker A: So is that just like turkey and mayonnaise, like chicken salad?
[00:23:04] Speaker C: Mayonnaise, mustard, scallions, celery, dill, and some lemon. Lemon juice. Fresh lemon juice.
[00:23:12] Speaker B: Bones always turning just whatever food he's got laying around into some delicious stuff.
[00:23:16] Speaker A: I was gonna say you need the deal in the scallions and stuff to kind of COVID up the turkey flavor.
[00:23:20] Speaker C: Yeah, it was good. It was better than I thought it'd be. And I happen to have all those ingredients, so it worked out. Worked out well.
[00:23:26] Speaker B: You got a lucky wife over there, you know that?
Yeah. My nominee for dog of the week is going to be Jerry Judy.
Yeah. I mean, nine catches for what we say 90. 90 some yard or 12 catches for 90 some yards. So. Yeah, he's basically the entire offense.
[00:23:45] Speaker A: Him and Jordan Akins.
[00:23:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Between those two, there was no other or catches.
So I guess with that. Kenny, I don't. I don't really want to talk about this game anymore. So what are your final thoughts for week 17?
Hold that. Thought. Bone, you go first. What's your final thoughts, man.
[00:24:08] Speaker C: We'Ll see next week. Well, we got the Ravens next week, Right.
Ravens are looking to win the division, so they're gonna probably stomp us. And the two teams ahead of us in the draft order now are playing teams who have clinched. So maybe they'll. Maybe they'll both win and we'll get the number one pick.
[00:24:29] Speaker B: Nice. Didn't we. Did we jump the Giants today because they won and we have.
[00:24:33] Speaker A: I think so.
[00:24:34] Speaker B: We're three.
Yeah. So who is it? It's Tennessee. New Englander above us. Yeah.
Nice. Who would have. Who would have thought this? You know, we gave up all these first rounders. We're in. The thought was, by the time we get back, we aren't going to need those first rounders.
[00:24:52] Speaker A: Jacks Jackson Dart, baby.
[00:24:54] Speaker B: We're all praying for a number one pick. You got to be kidding me. Kenny, what's, what are your final thoughts?
[00:24:59] Speaker A: Hold on before I get there. You guys have any thoughts on Cam Ward stepping out of the bowl game there to preserve his NFL future after setting the touchdowns record?
[00:25:08] Speaker B: This is, this is what's wrong with college football right now. Because like your team is his. They were winning or like at least in the game when he left and then they ended up losing by a point. Like, are you kidding me? Are you kidding? To me, like, that makes me not want him in the NFL because I'm like, okay, even I understand where you're coming from, but at the same time, like, that's your team that you signed up to be a part of and you're just shooting on them.
[00:25:33] Speaker A: We've seen cautionary tales though in recent years of guys that were first round locks that ended up tearing a knee up or something in a game that doesn't mean anything.
[00:25:40] Speaker B: That's fine. I just, I think it's crazy, but, you know, I'm, I've never been in that position, so I don't know.
[00:25:46] Speaker A: I mean, the thing is, a guy like Cam Ward, if your first round draft pick is a quarterback you stand to make, especially if you're good and get a second contract, you stand to make $150 million. Like, do you chance that to playing a meaningless game? Does it matter?
[00:26:00] Speaker B: I mean, I agree with you and like I said, I understand it, but at the same time I just, I, I think it's such a weak look, but that's just me.
[00:26:11] Speaker C: Yeah, it is a weak look, but I, I kind of don't blame him. I.
Mid game, I feel like he just shouldn't have played the game.
[00:26:18] Speaker B: But that's, that's kind of where I'm at. Like if he would have just said, sorry, guys, I got the edit. Like you, you knew, you're like, I'm willing to risk it for the all time record, but I'm not willing. My team, like it was completely a personal thing, not a, not a team thing. It was, it was very selfish.
[00:26:35] Speaker A: Along those same lines. So Saquon hit 2000 today. He's 100 yards away essentially from the Dickerson record. If he rushes for 107 yards next week and then comes out of the game, do you think it matters?
[00:26:48] Speaker B: Yeah, aren't they, are they locked up? Because he might not even play next week. Saquon literally earlier this year that he was going for some sort of single game record and he was like, nah, I don't go ahead and give it, give the ball to the Younger guys get them some carries, so.
[00:27:05] Speaker A: Yeah, but you know, this. Is that one of those all time records? You know, I mean, I get it.
[00:27:10] Speaker B: And here's the other thing, though. It's completely different because it'll be them locked up and then nothing's going to change for them. Whereas, I mean, I guess nothing changes in a bowl game. But why'd you even suit up in the first place?
[00:27:25] Speaker A: Did the.
Yeah. So I guess they technically still could win the. Because they're 13 and 3 and the Vikings are 14 and 2.
[00:27:36] Speaker B: These are long final thoughts.
[00:27:38] Speaker A: So they technically could still win the first overall.
See and get it by. I was just curious. There were some other things going on in the football world this week.
[00:27:46] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:48] Speaker A: Especially since Cam Warden, you know, maybe in the discussion of who. Who we might draft.
[00:27:53] Speaker B: You get it. We talk about anything other than Browns. That's. That's how we get through last games.
[00:27:58] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:27:59] Speaker A: Yeah.
Time for my final thoughts.
[00:28:02] Speaker B: It's been time for your thoughts.
[00:28:03] Speaker A: Oh, it's time for mine.
My final thought is this. Towards the end of the game, the commentary team, it was strange. It was the first time we had Tiki and those guys all year long. But they did kind of a nice tribute to. To Jim Donovan, basically just saying, you know, like he was impactful in, in their careers and that they'll miss the guy and just want to, you know, stand up. Class guy. He is. And you know, we've talked a lot recently about the players, about Miles Denzel, Nick Chubb and these guys and how this team is just an embarrassment and it's just a bad look to even be a part of it for some of these guys to where, you know, Miles is literally threatening to leave because it's so bad and so toxic there. And. And I was just, it was just thinking about Jim Donovan as they were sort of talking about him and just obviously passed this year and this day. You know, they have the stickers on the helmets. It's kind of like this season being a tribute to Jim Donovan.
And I just was thinking about just how sad that was, that this was this season three and 13.
That's your tribute to one of the greatest voices to ever do. It just kind of made me sick to my stomach. I don't know how we like petition this or how we get something like this started, but I would like to see at least in the new stadium, whatever the press room is or the broadcast area be named the Jim Donovan radio broadcast booth so that Nathan Segura and those guys can kick off every live broadcast from the Jim Donovan radio broadcast booth going forward.
[00:29:46] Speaker B: I mean, not that I, I, I totally agree with you and I think it should be, but isn't it already named after somebody?
[00:29:51] Speaker A: I don't know. I don't give a. Jim Donovan's the man.
[00:29:54] Speaker B: That's true. That's true.
Yeah. I mean, the whole 3 and 13 is your tribute is, is 3 and 14. Let's be honest. We're gonna be 3 and 14.
[00:30:03] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:03] Speaker B: 3 and 14 is your tribute is awful.
[00:30:05] Speaker A: Just feels bad.
[00:30:06] Speaker B: Yeah. My final thoughts are. I don't, I don't have any more thoughts with this Browns team. I'm, I've, I'm all out of thoughts. My thoughts are. They've been said about a hundred times. Brown sucks. They're just really bad, really awful. I don't, I don't, I don't have any thoughts besides that. So let me remind it, Remind everybody to call the Burning Sportscast hot take hotline one more time.
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[00:30:47] Speaker A: It's okay.
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[00:30:58] Speaker A: This week?
[00:30:59] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:31:02] Speaker A: You know, this is the time of year where the days all kind of mesh together. We're basically like in the taint of the year, you know, like between Christmas and New Year's.
[00:31:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:31:12] Speaker A: So anyway, we'll record our normal show that'll be out on whatever day that happens to be. I think that might even be next year, honestly, at this point.
[00:31:20] Speaker B: It is. It will be. Yeah.
[00:31:23] Speaker A: On Thursday, we will lament the Browns some more and Preview the Week 18 game against the Ravens, which again, his own has astutely pointed out already. We will for sure lose.
And we'll have another Brownsbackers interview our good friends in Annapolis. The Annapolis area Brownsbackers.
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Is it done yet? Are we done yet?
We got. We got one more.
[00:32:16] Speaker A: We can do it one more live.
[00:32:18] Speaker B: Or we can do it.
Nobody's look forward to the draft.
[00:32:24] Speaker A: Great.
[00:32:24] Speaker C: Back to the draft talk.
[00:32:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:32:27] Speaker C: For what?
[00:32:27] Speaker B: I feel like. I feel like I'm in an old familiar place. Like I I life is finally right again. I'm just. I'm excited for the draft. It's our Super Bowl.
[00:32:36] Speaker A: The Browns are just the worst there ever has been.
[00:32:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
All right, Bone.
[00:32:44] Speaker C: Yeah. I'm going to sleep.
See you guys later. See you tomorrow. Good night. Bon appetit.
[00:32:51] Speaker A: Don't just be part of the problem, b. The whole damn problem.
[00:32:55] Speaker B: And only you can prevent river fires burning river sports for all the hot.
[00:33:04] Speaker A: Take hotline call it calls are coming in.
[00:33:07] Speaker B: Good night, Cleveland.
[00:33:08] Speaker A: Good night, Cleveland.
[00:33:10] Speaker C: Good night, Akron.
