BRS 28 - Whose Logo Is It Anyway?

BRS 28 - Whose Logo Is It Anyway?
Burning River Sportscast: A Cleveland Browns Podcast
BRS 28 - Whose Logo Is It Anyway?

May 11 2023 | 01:42:32

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Episode 0 • May 11, 2023 • 01:42:32

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Kenny Thunder Ronnie Jams

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Welcome to Whose Logo Is It Anyway where the entries are made up and the points don't matter... the Browns will inevitably pick their favorite and not ours regardless. On today's episode the Browns have narrowed down the fan submitted designs for the official unofficial logo for the Cleveland Browns (and more specifically the Dawg Pound) to 5 and we debate which one slaps the hardest, they have completed their version of the 2023 draft with no 1st or 2nd rounders to speak of, there are some trade rumors swirling, they signed a veteran presence for the DBs room, another new arrival in that room from free agency got a Browns themed tattoo, Lamar got his contract, the schedule comes out soon, we give an update on a past guest from the show, the Cavaliers were unceremoniously bounced from the playoffs in the first round, and the Guardians continue to have more issues than we know what to make of... and we break it all down for you on the Burning River Sportscast! Burning River Sportscast SIGNED Nick Chubb Jersey Giveaway: https://thetapinmedia.com/burning_river_sportscast_signed_nick_chubb_jersey_giveaway Apple TV Link (Shrinking): https://apple.co/40BBdor RafflePress Link: https://shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=1377385&u=3619761&m=51809&urllink=&afftrack=
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[00:00:00] Speaker A: Type in media. The burning river sportscast. The Cleveland Browns are strolling into Summer with a bevy of young men who have yet to learn what it feels like to be a Brown. Welcome to Cleveland. Don't worry, young lads, the sheen and shine of the NFL draft will wear off soon, and you'll be scratching your heads trying to figure out how you lost to a one in eleven football team. Despite your three score lead in the fourth quarter. Cavs GM Kobe Altman seems content to run it back for next year and has indicated no sweeping changes to the current makeup of the team or coaching staff after a dismal playoff showing. And the Guardians seem content to bob near 500. Waiting on Summer because we all know we're a warm weather ball club. Jump on in assets. The offseason Hell ride continues. Next on The Burning River sportscast you all remember that playoffs in 2023? Hell yeah. I threw that bitch. And I just did my most best impression of just being a fat guy that loves ham. [00:01:27] Speaker B: Different breed of dog, I guess you would say. No, your logo is ass. [00:01:34] Speaker A: Your logo's ass. It looks like it goes in an ass. [00:01:37] Speaker B: Yeah, the old long nice, but that woman got buried twice, bro. I want a safety coffin. [00:01:45] Speaker A: It kind of looks like something I would put on my hand and fist you with, so you might lose points there. But that being said, pretty cool still counts. Welcome in to a very special remote pod edition of The Burning River Sportscast, presented by Tap in Media. I'm Teddy Thunder, separated by at least 778 aeronautical miles from the man who voiced the original roadrunner and swims in Keckies red hot Ronnie Jams. Ronnie, tell our friends where they can find the juiciest, sexiest, most moist Browns pod on the Meet Me. [00:02:26] Speaker B: You can find our podcasts wherever you get your podcasts. I'm talking Apple Podcasts, spotify Stitcher. Google Podcasts. Amazon Music. Pandora iHeartRadio Podcast castro good pods and so many more. [00:02:37] Speaker A: So many more. [00:02:39] Speaker B: So, Kenny, I typically typically start this thing off with a good news story from this past week. But guess what? I'm on vacation in the Outer Banks and I don't give a shit. So I don't got a news story for you. We'll just talk about me being in the Outer Banks, I guess. [00:02:54] Speaker A: You're in the Outer Banks? [00:02:56] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:02:58] Speaker A: Have you ever been to the Inner Banks? [00:03:00] Speaker B: I didn't know they existed. I guess I'll have to search for them. [00:03:04] Speaker A: Yeah. When you go into town, see if you can find the Inner Banks. Just ask everybody you see out there just where's the Inner Banks excuse me? [00:03:13] Speaker B: The Outer Banks. [00:03:14] Speaker A: Have you seen I think we can ask where the Inner Banks the Inner Banks were? [00:03:22] Speaker B: No, but on a bright note on a bright note, I get to enjoy lots of surveys. That's what we're on vacation. [00:03:30] Speaker A: Is that even an Outer Banks thing? I'm pretty sure that's just vacation thing. Vacation thing. You're like toes in the sand? [00:03:38] Speaker B: Yeah, ass in the water, toes in my hand. [00:03:45] Speaker A: Who are you there with? [00:03:48] Speaker B: Yeah, it's like a big family event, so if anybody doesn't know me, I have a really big family. So I have four siblings that are here with me, their entire families. Let's see, including me, five siblings, three spouses, 123-4567 kids, and my mother. We're all here. [00:04:15] Speaker A: God bless your mother. How's my favorite Ronnie sister look in her bikini this time of year? [00:04:26] Speaker B: I'm not answering that. [00:04:27] Speaker A: Tell her I said hi. [00:04:29] Speaker B: I will not tell her anything. [00:04:31] Speaker A: How's the baby? Enjoying the Outer Banks? [00:04:34] Speaker B: It's been fun with the baby. It's her first time to do a lot of this stuff. First time at the beach, we put her toes in the water, unfazed it's like 40 degrees, and then we put her in the pool. It was her first time in the pool. She loves the pool. Kind of splashing around, swimming around, whatever. So that was a lot of fun. She's been really enjoying the pool. [00:05:00] Speaker A: Do you need a lifeguard? [00:05:03] Speaker B: You're a certified lifeguard. [00:05:05] Speaker A: I was certified lifeguard. [00:05:06] Speaker B: You put a kid's nose back in place when he broke it. [00:05:09] Speaker A: That's true. That's true. That happened twice. Yeah. [00:05:15] Speaker B: The funny thing with my not noses being broken. Funny thing with my daughter swimming, though, is we have, like, the floaty for her that you just stick her in. She's supposed to just, like, bob around the pool. She's a very small baby, though. So we set her in it and she's bobbing around for a minute and she's got her arms up top and she's okay. And then all of a sudden, she does one of these she's, like, sitting upright, and then she goes when that happens, it gets a little sketchy. [00:05:44] Speaker A: But they say that's how you're supposed to teach infants to swim, right? You just throw them in. [00:05:50] Speaker B: Yeah, well, she starts swim lessons in June. [00:05:54] Speaker A: Yeah, you just throw them in. That way, if they ever fall into the pool and it's unattended, they can at least get their mouth out of the water, right? [00:06:01] Speaker B: That's the goal. [00:06:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:03] Speaker B: But enough about my vacation. Before we get into all of the good stuff on today's episode, let's start by reminding everybody that we have a giveaway going on. We do nearly as much yeah, there's not nearly as much traction as I thought there would be on this thing. A signed Nick Chubb jersey. And no one's I shouldn't say nobody, quite a few people care, but not as many people as I thought. I thought this thing would be. People be signing up like gangbusters. [00:06:33] Speaker A: Do you think people are just ready for Nick Chubb to be traded? [00:06:38] Speaker B: They finally accepted what we said, and they're like, oh, these guys are right. He's going to be gone. [00:06:43] Speaker A: They've given up on the Nick Chubb Jew. They're like, I guess I'll get a deshaun one. He'll be here a few years. [00:06:49] Speaker B: Everybody was so against it, and now they're like, well, I guess we have him for at least six years. [00:06:54] Speaker A: I guess we got the wrong jersey for giveaway, then. [00:06:57] Speaker B: Yeah. No, seriously, get signed up for the Nick jersey. [00:07:02] Speaker A: The nick jersey. [00:07:03] Speaker B: Giveaway. It is signed by Batman. What's up? [00:07:08] Speaker A: How do I sign up for the Nick Chubb giveaway? [00:07:12] Speaker B: All you got to do is click the link in the show notes or on whatever social media page you go to of ours. Go to our bio. There's a link to our link tree. Go there, click on the first link, and it's to sign up for the giveaway. Once you subscribe to us on YouTube, you'll unlock about 20 other options to earn bonus entries into the giveaway. [00:07:37] Speaker A: And when do we give this thing away? [00:07:41] Speaker B: Well, the entry period runs through Memorial Day, so you've got until then to get entered. After that, it closes, and we will announce the winner within one week. [00:07:51] Speaker A: The official, unofficial start to summer the unofficial, official, unofficial start to summer the. [00:08:01] Speaker B: Nick Chuck Memorial Jersey giveaway. [00:08:03] Speaker A: For the Nick Chuck jersey giveaway? [00:08:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:06] Speaker A: Sorry. Do you ever watch the old Tom Green show? We got, like, a satellite delay going on, like a quarter second, just enough to throw us off, so this will be fun. [00:08:18] Speaker B: I'm doing fine. You're an idiot. [00:08:22] Speaker A: All right, let's do this. [00:08:25] Speaker B: Oh, and while you guys are at it, signing up for the Nick Chubb jersey giveaway, why don't you check out our merchandise? There's more at WW Dot Thetapinmedia.com shop. [00:08:40] Speaker A: How's come you didn't bring any merchandise to vacation? With you? [00:08:45] Speaker B: I've got plenty, but I decided to wear this because I'm on vacation. [00:08:50] Speaker A: But, I mean, you didn't even put it up, like, in the background or put a hat on the table or flag with you any of the dozens of cool things that we have. [00:09:00] Speaker B: Bro, I told you I'm on vacation. [00:09:02] Speaker A: You left your mug for ants here. [00:09:06] Speaker B: What is that? A mug for ants? Listen, they sent me that mug. It's the worst mug of all times. [00:09:14] Speaker A: It's not. It's just a camping mug. It's supposed to be small. I tried to give it to you, but it doesn't work like that. [00:09:26] Speaker B: We should have made that work. [00:09:27] Speaker A: Now, that would have been a good trick. [00:09:29] Speaker B: Let's get into it. It's time for the Burning River Rundown. [00:09:34] Speaker A: Burning River Rundown. [00:09:42] Speaker B: All right, so I guess we'll start this thing off with happy birthday, Kevin Stefanik. [00:09:49] Speaker A: Can we say Stefanski on his birthday? Is it the one day a year we'll give him a little shred of respect back? [00:09:55] Speaker B: All right. Happy birthday, Kevin Stefanski. [00:10:02] Speaker A: Kevin Stefanski. [00:10:05] Speaker B: Yeah, I know we give him a bunch of shit, but it is his birthday. It is your birthday. [00:10:10] Speaker A: It is your birthday. It is his birthday. It is your birthday. Yeah. Look, I don't wish for Kevin Stefanik to be the worst coach ever. [00:10:21] Speaker B: He just sometimes is happens to be. [00:10:24] Speaker A: I would love nothing else for Kevin Stefanik to be the guy that leads us to our first divisional championship in 30 years, to be the guy that leads the Cleveland Browns to the Super Bowl and wins a Lombardi Trophy. I just have my reservations. [00:10:41] Speaker B: You don't think it'll happen? [00:10:43] Speaker A: I know it won't happen, not while he's here. But happy birthday anyway, bro. [00:10:48] Speaker B: Regardless. [00:10:51] Speaker A: He seems like a nice enough guy. I would have a beer with him. Fool me once shame on me fool me you can't get fooled again you. [00:11:02] Speaker B: Won'T ever fool me one more time next up, we got Juan Thornhill. Got a Browns tattoo when he came to town. And now listen, I had something to say about this because this got blown up all over social media, and everybody was like, oh, my gosh, you got a Browns tattoo. This is fantastic. And I was like, so what? Did you see the tattoo? Did you see the tattoo? [00:11:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:33] Speaker B: It'S brownie. Brownie the elf? Yeah. [00:11:36] Speaker A: What's your problem with it? [00:11:39] Speaker B: Listen, here's the deal. This is my problem with it. Do you see the other side of his NFL shield? It has the Kansas City Chiefs arrowhead on it. [00:11:51] Speaker A: Well, yeah, but I mean, this is a cool tattoo. [00:11:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm not knocking his actual tattoo. [00:12:00] Speaker A: And he went with the brownie elf. [00:12:03] Speaker B: That's true. Brownie the elf is dope. But no, everybody blew it up like it was this big thing, like, oh, he's so dedicated to the Browns, but it's like he's just getting the teams that he's played for tattooed on. [00:12:15] Speaker A: Well, yeah, in case you don't have your resume with you, someone's like, what do you do? You're like, yeah. Super bowl champion Browns. Last place division. He's the illustrated man. I don't know what your problem is with that. [00:12:29] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know. I kept seeing everybody post it, and I was like, I guess that's okay. I don't know. [00:12:37] Speaker A: Look, I think it's cool. I think it endears him to fans. I think the thing that was cool was that he got Brownie elf. He could have got the brown shield, the helmet, the logo, but he got the elf that shows he gets us. Okay. [00:12:54] Speaker B: I guess. [00:12:57] Speaker A: In general, I don't recommend anybody getting a tattoo of their employer on their body, especially one where you probably won't live there very. [00:13:09] Speaker B: How long. [00:13:09] Speaker A: Was Troy Hill here for? [00:13:12] Speaker B: Yeah, that's my next full sleeve of my employer. [00:13:16] Speaker A: Just get your resume. Just totally emblazoned on your not my you're right. [00:13:21] Speaker B: I won't do my employer. I'll just get my whole resume. [00:13:24] Speaker A: Although, actually, all of your logos of your employer would probably be cool because it's just like random manufacturing companies. [00:13:32] Speaker B: No one would why do you have so many corporate logos on you? Why not? [00:13:39] Speaker A: I'm the illustrated man. [00:13:43] Speaker B: Next up here, Anthony Walker. Participated in a small business impact showcase in partnership with jumpstart. So this thing was pretty cool. I just wanted to point this out. Know, Anthony Walker owns his own business, so they brought him in to be a judge of the pitch competition. And it's just kind of a cool story because it's always good to see the guys doing things in the community and kind of give them back to programs like this. I think we should make probably should. [00:14:13] Speaker A: We make him he's probably worthy of being the Bernie Resource Guest Dog of the Week, right? [00:14:22] Speaker B: Dog of the week. [00:14:27] Speaker A: He only gets a half a sounder because it wasn't in the notes. But yeah, I mean, that seems worthy, right? [00:14:33] Speaker B: We're still in limbo. We're still in limbo on Perry, on Winfrey. So he only gets half a uh. [00:14:40] Speaker A: But no, that's mean. Look, we all hope Anthony Walker comes back and plays really well. This, you know, always good to see the guys in the community, for sure. [00:14:48] Speaker B: Yep. Next up here, the Browns signed safety Roddy McClay. McClay. McClint. How do you say? That's what I would have guessed. But seriously, though, it's a great signing here because it brings a veteran presence to the DB's room. Not that they don't have any already. [00:15:09] Speaker A: A veteran presence. Another one to the room that played under Jim Shorts. Jim Shorts. [00:15:15] Speaker B: Jim Shorts. I'm so excited to see Jim shorts. Do you think Jim Shorts will run out there in our Jim Shorts jim Shorts this year? [00:15:23] Speaker A: If he doesn't, I'll punch him. Donkey punch. [00:15:27] Speaker B: Wow. We're definitely not getting press passes now. Just threatened a coach. [00:15:32] Speaker A: All right. I'm sorry. It was no violence intended. It was a joke. Seriously, though, I really love the this is I was more excited about this signing than probably all their draft picks because this dude can eat. Yeah. So I'm pretty stoked. Keep eating, keep eating. [00:15:52] Speaker B: Keep eating. [00:15:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:54] Speaker B: He's going to do something this year. Well, if you like the Rodney McLeod signing, how do you feel about the Chase Young rumors going around right now? [00:16:04] Speaker A: Turds, first off, I think many of the rumors are unsubstantiated. Erroneous, erroneous. [00:16:13] Speaker B: Erroneous. Erroneous. [00:16:15] Speaker A: On both counts, I think they're unsubstantiated. Here's the other thing. The Commandos were more than willing to part ways with this guy. He was kind of good out of the gate. But look, I think if you bring this guy in at this point, I think he's just Davey on clowny with a few more miles to play. I don't know. [00:16:36] Speaker B: That like I don't think so. [00:16:38] Speaker A: Is he a game changer? Look, I like Chase Young. I like the fact that he's an Ohio State guy. I thought he was great there. But I don't know that his game and his athleticism totally translated to the next. Like, he's all show, no go. Like, he could flex and scare you, but I don't think he's actually hurting anybody out there. [00:17:00] Speaker B: I don't think you're hurting anybody anywhere. Here's the deal, erroneous, listen, I actually really like this. I agree with the first part of what you said. I think a lot of the rumors are unsubstantiated. I really don't think that there's anything to this, but if there was, I like the idea of bringing Chase Young in. I think that he's still I don't know why you said more miles. He's still young. He's coming off his rookie contract. [00:17:32] Speaker A: No, I mean, he has more miles to go than Judevion. Jadevion's older. He has less tread on the know. [00:17:39] Speaker B: Okay, well, then that's fair. But my thing is he plays for I just I think that if he gets a change of scenery, I think that Chase Young still has a lot left to give to a ball club. And I think if he comes here and he's not the focus of the defensive line, I like his chances. [00:18:01] Speaker A: I just think that he's a bigger wild card than people think. And I think that for him to come in with the acclaim that he came in with, the hope that he came in with for that ball club with now a new ownership group and kind of setting sales for Sunnier skies, that they were more than willing to part with this guy, I don't know. It just screams red flag at me. [00:18:28] Speaker B: All right, so so far, we both like Rodney McLeod. We disagree on Chase Young. How do you feel about the Cordero Patterson rumors that just popped up today? [00:18:40] Speaker A: How is this guy still just in the NFL? [00:18:43] Speaker B: That was my thought when I saw it. I was like, he hasn't retired yet. [00:18:47] Speaker A: I mean, look, I think he has an impressive story, right? He has an impressive story like Josh Cribs has an impressive story. [00:18:56] Speaker B: Josh Cribs. [00:18:57] Speaker A: I love Josh cribs. I love the fact that he was a Brown. I love that he's in the hall of Fame somewhere for his 13 kickoff returns, punt returns, whatever he's got. Awesome story. Josh Cribs never won us anything. Cordero Patterson is a cool story. Wide receiver, converted punt returner, kick returner to a running back, and then it's had some success, kind of in all those different roles, but he's on the wrong side of 30, and I don't know, I just can't get over, like, a running back wearing a number in the don't know. Look, I just don't know that his skill set offers us anything that we don't have. Unless the idea is we're just totally going to get rid of Nick Chubb's presence in the offense and replace it with someone that can catch balls out of the backfield, even though Nick Chubb's hands are vastly underrated, if they just wanted to put a wide receiver in the backfield for Deshaun. Okay, I can't make sense of it for any other reason. [00:20:00] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, at least we're in agreeance on this one, because I'm just not a fan of this at all. I saw people like, oh, this is a great fit? Like in whose world is this a great fit? What are you talking about? This dude is an aging running back, wide receiver returner thing and he is coming off a serious injury. [00:20:20] Speaker A: He was never good enough to be one of them. He just keep reinventing himself. Which again, I give credit to the guy because he's elongated his NFL career and made a boatload more money by doing that. But name me one other person that looks like that and name me one that was successful to the point of helping a team win a championship. [00:20:40] Speaker B: I can't. [00:20:42] Speaker A: You can't because it doesn't fit anywhere. At the end of the day he's a nice piece, sure when he's healthy, but that's another problem he's had his whole career is he's always been banged up and he's a really intriguing fantasy pickup because he gets receiving yards and rushing. You know, I like him in that but I don't need him on the. [00:21:05] Speaker B: I just, I just hear these rumors and the first word that popped into my head. [00:21:14] Speaker A: Cordero's not a guy that's going to demand a huge contract because of all the things we just talked about, but you are going to have to pay him. And I would rather see them save and scrap together every spare dollar to keep Nicholas Jamal Chubb of Cleveland Brown until the day he retires than bring in some guy that's going to carry the ball 108 times this year. [00:21:36] Speaker B: Yeah, we got about five months left of Nick Chubb, I think. [00:21:44] Speaker A: I know and it's sad, I'm devastated by it but it's the truth. [00:21:48] Speaker B: Yeah. Next up here, Lamar Jackson finally got his contract and immediately says he wants to throw for 6000 yards with the weapons that they brought in in the offseason. [00:22:01] Speaker A: What? The weapons they brought in? [00:22:09] Speaker B: I just like how he went from I want to trade to I'm going to throw for 6000 yards. What is this dude even talking about? I want to know who his dealer is. [00:22:21] Speaker A: Look, I'm glad this thing has finally come to an end because I was tired of talking about Lamar every week. Good on him for getting the bag without an agent and all that. With everything, all the things that were said and made about that whole thing and just good for him to get paid, right? He's finally got what he was after. They're over 6000 yards. It's aggressive. I will say. What's even more aggressive is the fact that I don't know when the last time he's played a full the last time he's played 17 games in a season. So the fact that he's going to throw over 6000 yards in twelve games is even more impressive and aggressive. [00:23:07] Speaker B: Yeah, that is impressive. Look, here's the deal. Honestly, I'm more confident in Deshaun and Deshaun Watson kind of getting to the top of his game again than I am Lamar Jackson to be honest with you. Because at least Deshaun Watson never really had injury issues. No. [00:23:24] Speaker A: And Deshaun's led the league in passing yards before. [00:23:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I know people argue Lamar Jackson was an MVP. Yeah. [00:23:33] Speaker A: But even in his MVP season I don't know, stop my head. Did he hit 4000 yards passing that year? [00:23:39] Speaker B: Probably not. I don't know if he's ever hit 4000 yards passing. [00:23:42] Speaker A: I don't even know if he hit 4000, but I know he rushed for. [00:23:44] Speaker B: He'S a Glorified running back. [00:23:46] Speaker A: He rushed for like 1200 that year. But hey, great. Here's what I'll say. I do have Lamar in a keeper league and if he's going to throw over 6000, I'm going to keep him. [00:24:01] Speaker B: Yeah. And I guess my last note on here is we're kind of talking him down right now. But I mean, I guess others have doubted him before, too, and he just keeps being guess, so whatever. [00:24:11] Speaker A: And if Odell Beckham is healthy all year and has a comeback season that's. [00:24:20] Speaker B: Not out of the no, but that's not impossible. You want Odell Beckham Jr. And Lamar Jackson to stay healthy all season to play 34 games? No. That being said, if they both stay. [00:24:43] Speaker A: Healthy, it's not impossible to think Odell Beckham could come back and have a historically good season, not a historically good hall of Fame season, like megatron. He's not going to catch for 2000 yards. He'd probably need to catch for 3000 in this Lamar Jackson offense, but he could have 1400 or 1500 yards and it's not going to get you 6000 again. But they could both have good years this year, which is not good for. [00:25:13] Speaker B: The Cleveland Brown to have 1500 yards. If he wants to go 6000, I. [00:25:21] Speaker A: Think he's banking on Odell hitting close to two. Mark Andrews is going to be at 1600 and then he's just filling the gaps, baby. [00:25:30] Speaker B: Yeah, something like that. Anyways, let's move on here. Thursday, May 11 schedule release for the NFL. So looking forward to this. We'll definitely be covering this on the next episode because that's coming up here quick. And how many primetime games do you think the Browns get here? [00:25:52] Speaker A: I still think they're in Rogers dog house, so I don't think they're going to I think they'll be shelved for most of the year. Again, maybe you end up with we. [00:26:05] Speaker B: Were a major disappointment last time we went into primetime. [00:26:09] Speaker A: Yeah. You'll end up with one that you're not expecting against some ball club that nobody cares about. But I don't think they're going to be plastered all over Monday Night Football, thursday Night Football and all that again. [00:26:21] Speaker B: You know who will? [00:26:23] Speaker A: The Detroit Lions. [00:26:25] Speaker B: The goddamn jets and the jets. [00:26:28] Speaker A: Yeah, the jets will be yeah, but we won't be. The NFL schedule release is like the biggest, wet fart of the like, you build this up and they have a whole hour or two hour episode to go over the schedule release and it's like, what are we doing here? What are we doing with our lives. [00:26:50] Speaker B: We're not going to take an hour or two. We're probably just going to take like ten minutes in our next episode. But. [00:26:58] Speaker A: Because it's just one of those things because you don't know who's going to be good from year to year, you have a decent idea, but. [00:27:07] Speaker B: Here'S. [00:27:08] Speaker A: What'S going to happen all across town. No, you listen. This is what's going to happen all across town. Everybody's going to get a schedule release going to come out, they're going to sit in their little work pods on Friday afternoon. They're going to go, yeah, we can win this one and we can win that one. And Browns are easily twelve and five this year, no joke. Twelve and five. It's not unreasonable to think that was. [00:27:28] Speaker B: Going to happen bare minimum. [00:27:29] Speaker A: Bare minimum, yeah, no worse than twelve. [00:27:31] Speaker B: And five, probably way better. Yeah, I agree with you. I think it's silly because we've got the fourth place schedule. What does that actually do for us? Team from the other division is going to jump up to first place and then we're going to be effed and. [00:27:53] Speaker A: Look at some of the teams that didn't have great records last year. I don't know. I could make a case that the Houston Texans could be a surprise team. That's good. This. [00:28:04] Speaker B: Drought'S good. He was who both of us thought would be the number one, and you. [00:28:09] Speaker A: Got new blood down there and your new coach and that they brought in a ton of talent because of the Sean Watson trades. I mean, they've got a bunch of young guys there that with the right direction, they may compete for the division. All I'm saying is you don't even know some of the worst teams from last year, like the Texans and the Panthers. I don't know, what if one of these sometimes these rookie quarterbacks come out now and they easily will win eight or nine games and it's like, all right, this guy's arrived. So it's hard to make those kinds of season long predictions on a Thursday in May when it's still snowing outside in Cleveland. [00:28:53] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree with you. Speaking of the draft and some rookies, we got an update on our budy Anthony Kendall from last week's. I'm sorry. Sure do we? Yeah. So unfortunately and again, we're talking about Anthony Kendall, graduate of Baldwin Wallace right here in Northeast Ohio. He's a Division Three prospect that was getting looked at by several NFL ball clubs during the draft. Unfortunately, he did not get drafted. However, he did get an invite to the jets and the Browns training camps. However, before he could even make it to either one of them, the Tennessee Titans swooped in and scooped him up before anybody else had a chance to, and he officially signed with the team late last week. So on one hand, we're a little bummed that he didn't sign with our Cleveland Browns. We think he was a sleeper that could have really helped the ball club. But on the other hand, we're totally pumped for Anthony Kendall. It's a great story for small school kid to get a chance in the NFL and show what he can do. [00:29:55] Speaker A: Not a prospect anymore. [00:29:57] Speaker B: Not a prospect. [00:29:58] Speaker A: He's officially an NFL NFL player. Yeah. Look, I think we were both really impressed with him just in general, in terms of obviously his playing ability. But B, just his maturity as someone kind of going through what's a very unusual and kind of tough circumstance when you're trying to make a dream come true. And I think we were both really impressed with the young man and wish him well and certainly don't ever wish for anybody to get cut by an NFL team. But if he were to be cut and then picked up by the Browns later in training camp, I wouldn't be upset about that. [00:30:37] Speaker B: I wouldn't be upset about so, uh, again, congratulations to Anthony Kendall. Like you said, great young man. Hope to see big things out of him this year or get him back on the show as soon as possible. [00:30:51] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:30:53] Speaker B: And then next up here we've got I don't even want to talk about this. Just the non Browns news. Yeah. Non Browns News. The Cleveland Cavaliers absolutely sucked in the playoffs. Like they were bad. [00:31:10] Speaker A: What's worse is watching this New York Knicks team be exposed as the fraud that they were after. [00:31:17] Speaker B: They trounced literally jalen Brunson's, their whole team. And he's just getting shut down like he should be because he's not a nobody. But he's not a super. [00:31:26] Speaker A: He's kind of a. [00:31:30] Speaker B: NBA. [00:31:31] Speaker A: He's not packing bags for anyone, but he's not one of the premier talents in the league. When you think of the All Stars in the league, maybe a rising star. [00:31:41] Speaker B: But he's certainly not he's no Donovan Mitchell. [00:31:44] Speaker A: He's no Donovan Mitchell unless he's playing. [00:31:47] Speaker B: The Cavs and then he shuts down Donovan Mitchell and is better than him. [00:31:51] Speaker A: Yeah. Look, just super disappointing way to end the season because it was such a fun season up until that point because of the way they play balls out during every game during the regular season. But man, it just seemed like the whole playoff run was just deflated. [00:32:14] Speaker B: You know what's wild to me about this whole thing is that so we went from being so excited for this year for the Cavs, and even throughout the entire year, everybody was so excited, oh, this is great. We're going to be great. We're going to make a deep run in the playoffs, whatever. Now we get bounced in embarrassing fashion. We're going to go into next season, and it's going to be the complete opposite. We're going to have all these great pieces, and we should be excited about the season, but everybody's going to be like, yeah, but are we going to get bounced in the first round of the playoffs again? [00:32:42] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. The honeymoon phase is over now, right? [00:32:47] Speaker B: Honeymoon face is over, bitch. [00:32:50] Speaker A: Yeah. What's really frustrating, too, you brought back. [00:32:57] Speaker B: One of my quotes. That's good. That's a good callback. [00:33:00] Speaker A: Maybe it's not frustrating to everyone else, but it's incredibly frustrating to me. There was a story, I think, in The Athletic this week about how Donovan Mitchell still wants to be a New York knick, and then you'll have him next year, and then there's probably going to be a move made to send to New York because that's ultimately where he wants to. So it's just so and on one hand, it's like, is the media making. [00:33:32] Speaker B: I doubt there's any validity to that. Like, it's probably just somebody picking a story and trying to run with it. But if there is, well, then that begs the question, is there a reason you were so bad against New York? [00:33:47] Speaker A: Wouldn't you want to showcase your talent if you wanted to go play for them? Wouldn't you make them want to trade three first round picks for you? [00:33:55] Speaker B: Yeah, but what would endear a ball club to you more, you throwing a series or you beating the shit out of them? [00:34:02] Speaker A: I don't think you can tell anybody that you threw the series until well after you're done playing. Well, they might know on day one he shows up. You all remember that playoffs in 2023? Hell, yeah, I threw that, bitch. [00:34:19] Speaker B: No, I'm not accusing also, you guys. [00:34:21] Speaker A: Get knocked out of the next round by the Heat. [00:34:25] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm not accusing Donovan Mitchell of throwing the playoffs. I'm not. But I'm just saying again, I say I don't think there's any validity to those stories about him wanting to be a don't think I don't think that most of these players care about where they play as much as people think they do. [00:34:42] Speaker A: I mean, I think it was from, like, a Cavs beat guy, I want to say. It was like, not it wasn't like. [00:34:48] Speaker B: A because Cleveland's got the best reporters. [00:34:51] Speaker A: A half ass nobody. [00:34:53] Speaker B: Me and you were technically media in Cleveland. At this point, I am half in media. [00:35:01] Speaker A: What does that say on the bottom there? [00:35:05] Speaker B: There's no arguing that media. So more Cavs news. This is some sad news from Cleveland. Nick Gilbert passed away yesterday. We're recording on Monday. The Eigth. It was yesterday, I believe, that he passed away from complications related to Neurofibromatosis or NF One. He was an awesome young man. I mean, everybody here remembers him being the good luck charm for the multiple draft lotteries that we got. He was able to help the Cavs draw the first and the fourth picks when he helped out with the drafts. And this past year, the Cavs wore a bow tie, part of Nick's signature look when he went to those drafts on their warm ups to raise awareness for the fight against NF One. So just really sad news. He seemed like a really nice kid. And condolences to the Gilbert family, friends, entire Cavs organization and all the people whose lives Nick touched in his short, his way too short. 26 years on this world, for sure. [00:36:10] Speaker A: Yeah. It's incredibly sad news when that came down. And as you mentioned, we all remember those drafts, him being the good luck charms. We got the draft lottery underway, so those were always fun. And I know that NF one is one of those things that there's no cure for it right now. It's tumors that kind of grow in along your nervous system in different spots and it's not a fun thing to go through and there's no way to really cure it. I think we all remember Nick as the fun bow tie kid that was winning us draft lotteries, but also just warrior to get to that point and just the strength that it takes to persevere and get through that every day. And as you said, just wish the whole family brain surgeries. Yeah, I mean, Ekito is through a ton. You just feel bad for everyone involved in that circumstance. Again, to everybody, rip. To our friend. [00:37:23] Speaker B: Terrible news. In more basketball news though, we have Bronnie. Bronnie came out and chose USC this week. So one, I can't believe he didn't choose Ohio State. [00:37:41] Speaker A: I can. Have you seen Ohio State's basketball program recently this year? That might have left their ass? [00:37:48] Speaker B: Yeah, that's true. So I was pretty turned down for it. But honestly, not only that, but to be honest, bronnie doesn't have as many ties to Northeast Ohio as like, you know, he's the, the years that he's been growing up, like, actually growing up like his high school years and such have been out in California. So I'm sure his heart is far more out there than it is here. [00:38:14] Speaker A: Well, and let's be honest, bronnie is not playing for four years anywhere. He went play every one. He'll probably play twelve games. He'll fake a hamstring. [00:38:25] Speaker B: I'm going to sit out till the. [00:38:26] Speaker A: Draft light up for ten or twelve games. The only thing that I don't like about this whole story is even in our notes, we wrote, Bronnie chooses USC. Let's be real here. Brownie didn't choose shit. Well, Brown said, Yo, I live in La. If you want me to come to your games, you can go to school in California. Like, that's your option because it just would have been too hard for the families because they have young kids for all that. So let's call it what it was. LeBron made this decision for Bronnie, all part of LeBron's master plan to whatever he's going to do, retire and sign with him when he's draft eligible, all that stuff. So I just don't buy that Bronnie really had any choice in this, nor do I think he cared because it wasn't like even if he had some ties to Ohio State and he was like, I want to bring the buckeyes back to, um it's hard to do in one year anyway in college. It is. What it, you know, good for know. Has he lived up to the hype yet? No, but he's made it this far. Anytime you're a famous person's, kid like that and not just a famous person, like a legendary, famous person. I feel the same way about Charlie Woods. It's like you're always going to be in the shadow of the greatest of all time. And there was expectations for a lot of kids like that and didn't always work out. So the fact that he's committed to the game and built himself into a top prospect and is going to go to a top rated school and will be drafted in a year, I mean, good for him, because as much as we all want to say Bronnie's, life probably is so hard. His first car was a Lamborghini, and instagram models want to date him when he's, like, 13. There's some relative truth to, like, you're LeBron James's kid. [00:40:46] Speaker B: People expect great. [00:40:48] Speaker A: And now you have to deliver. What's that? [00:40:52] Speaker B: And you have his name. So that's like the worst part about it is the fact that you have oh, yeah. [00:40:56] Speaker A: It would be like if Tiger would have named Charlie Tiger, little Tiger would have been terrible. [00:41:04] Speaker B: You got me. And you that know you're a junior. I'm the third. [00:41:08] Speaker A: But. [00:41:11] Speaker B: Our dads weren't the greatest of all time at basketball or golf or whatever. Of all time at basketball or golf? [00:41:22] Speaker A: Yeah. My accomplishment was, like, the first in my line to go to college. That's very vastly different than following up a guy that's going to score 45,000 career points in the NBA. [00:41:38] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know. But yeah, good for Bronnie, I guess. Going to USC. Great. [00:41:47] Speaker A: He's just going to get more chicks. [00:41:51] Speaker B: All right. Yeah. Next up here, we've got the Guardians. Still a few games under 500. Kind of trying to stay afloat, but I mean, I don't know what you're seeing. It's looking to me like it's getting harder and harder for them to win these games. There's things that people keep saying, but they don't make sense to me. What was the thing that you heard that we were just talking about? [00:42:14] Speaker A: Yeah, I keep hearing on the radio for the last couple of days that the bats will warm up. And I think even Tito said this at some point was that the bats will warm up as the weather warms up, as if we play in Southern California. I don't know when the Cleveland Indians became a warm weather ball, and I don't know. Spoiler alert in September and November when it counts. In October when it counts. [00:42:40] Speaker B: It's going to be cold. [00:42:41] Speaker A: Cold here. [00:42:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:43] Speaker A: I don't know that I want to be a warm weather ball club. [00:42:46] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't really get it. Hopefully they could keep it up, though. They can stay afloat until these pitchers come back because they just got Cal Quantrell back and he pitched a gem against the Twins and just destroyed them. So hopefully we keep getting people back and we could start winning some ball games, because right now it's a little ugly. [00:43:07] Speaker A: Well, yeah, you've had some injuries early on. You've had some people underperform early on. To be fair, the weather has not been great. I don't know that that's, like, the full reason they've been succopotamous, but sarcopotamus. [00:43:20] Speaker B: Is that a technical term? [00:43:25] Speaker A: But as fans get in the stands and the weather starts to break, maybe that'll help bring just that, I don't know, whatever to the games. But the problem is that you're starting to see some of these teams that are getting now out to early leads. And it just makes it harder for yourself at the end of June and July when you get towards the all Star break, when you're like, even at 500 now, I'm five games back of the division leader, and it just makes it harder on yourself. So hopefully they can get their shit together. Never. [00:43:59] Speaker B: Good. Come on, Tito, turn them around. [00:44:02] Speaker A: Turn them around. Go ahead. Yeah, I was going to say, I know we don't really do shout outs, but my niece turned 16 this week, sweet 16, and we went to the Akron Rubber Ducks game this weekend, and she got to throw out the first pitch, so that was pretty cool. I'll link that in a TikTok or something so you can see. But she did make it across the plate. [00:44:27] Speaker B: Nice. [00:44:29] Speaker A: She wasn't a little bitch. [00:44:32] Speaker B: I don't know if you're allowed to say that about a 16 year old girl, but sure. [00:44:39] Speaker A: She'S a top rated softball prospect in the state, so she does okay. Yeah. [00:44:43] Speaker B: So in non Cleveland news, though, the world is officially safe from Jackson Mahomes. For now. [00:44:52] Speaker A: For now. Have fun making TikToks in the drunk take, bro. [00:44:59] Speaker B: Yeah. So there's an alleged assault from earlier in the year. We say alleged. We're pretty sure he did it. Dude's an idiot. But we can't say that he actually did it because I don't know. I wasn't there. But alleged assault from earlier in the year. But just with this, maybe Patrick Mahomes, people finally corral this guy and he can go away. [00:45:23] Speaker A: Rein him in a little. [00:45:25] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm so sick of hearing about Jackson Mahomes. I mean, he's just the most like, that's the worst kind of person, is you're literally living off of your brother's fame and fortune and success. You do nothing except for make TikTok videos, and not even good ones like yours aren't good. The only reason that you make money is literally because your brother is yeah. [00:45:50] Speaker A: Like, you can say what you want about Johnny Football, but at least Johnny did something to earn his cred. He was good for a minute. Jackson Mahomes ain't done shit. I mean, I'm sure they do the same eight ball, but yeah, look, I don't want to make a Johnny. No, I got something for you here. [00:46:14] Speaker B: Forget about Jackson Mahomes. I don't care about Jackson Mahomes anymore. He can go away. Speaking of Johnny, though, did you see the play from his game this past week? [00:46:25] Speaker A: I did not. I'm sure it was spectacular because he's the best quarterback I've ever seen. No. [00:46:30] Speaker B: So there was a bad snap and he fumbled it, and he kicked it around a little bit. He went to go pick it up and saw the defensive lineman coming and just walked off the field. He's like, I don't think. [00:46:45] Speaker A: Like, that'll be what flashes before my eyes on my deathbed. Like, people have all kinds of fun family memories and loves of their lives. Mine will be Johnny. Manziel undertaking in the Buffalo Bills end zone. [00:47:00] Speaker B: Get that picture up if you can find it. The final thing. I'll let you talk on this one. Kenny, you sent me a message earlier today, and I thought you needed some airtime for this. So Kenny has a problem with honey baked tam. [00:47:15] Speaker A: I do have a problem with honey baked tam. First off, let me tell you this. They're only open till, like, six. Come on. What is this, the 1920s? Second off, it is so expensive for a Honey Bay tam. And you might say, well, don't buy it. Well, here's the problem with that. It's delicious. Last week, I'm getting ready to leave work, and I say to my boss, I really want a honey baked ham. And he's like, all right. And I was like and I'm a grown ass man. I don't even have to wait until it's a holiday. I could just go buy my own ham. He's like, fair point. So you know what I did? [00:48:01] Speaker B: Why does your boss listen to this nonsense? [00:48:05] Speaker A: Because I'm a top performer, bro. He has to. So anyway, I put my order in online. I'm like, I want this ham. Their hams are ridiculous. I got the smallest normal ham. Like, the smallest option you get is a normal ham. It says this thing feeds twelve to 16 people. Which I also don't understand because my wife and I ate this one for ants. Yeah. And so I put my order in and I'm hustling bustling. I hit some traffic on the way from Cleveland to the Honeybee TM store, and they close at 630. And I pull in the driveway, and it's 627, and the manager shuts the lights off, and I'm like, no. And I run out of my car, door open, still running, and they see me. There's three of them standing. [00:49:02] Speaker B: Wait, did you just say that you ran? [00:49:07] Speaker A: I did. That's how much I love honey baked. [00:49:11] Speaker B: While there's only one thing that Kenny will run for, and it's honey baked ham. [00:49:17] Speaker A: That's true. So I run to the door and I try to run in like Superman trying to run into the old telephone booth, and the door's locked. And they're all three just standing there at the counter staring at me. And I just did my most best impression of just being a fat guy that loves ham and missed the cut off time. I just sat there just so devastated, until they finally were like, this guy, this poor asshole really apparently needs this ham. So they let me in to let me get it. Anyway, I got the ham, but my problem is that the ham was $90. [00:49:57] Speaker B: Yeah, they're expensive, man. They're, like the most expensive hams of all time. [00:50:03] Speaker A: If you go to your local supermarket or your local deli and buy a half a ham, they're like $24. Like 1899, on sale for the holidays. $90 for a ham on a Monday afternoon. [00:50:22] Speaker B: A Monday afternoon in the middle of May? [00:50:25] Speaker A: Yeah. So the good thing is my wife and I ate this whole ham for basically the next week. So really full of ham. I've had a lot of ham farts, but yeah, my biggest problem is just it's so unnecessarily expensive, but I love it. [00:50:42] Speaker B: All right, well, there you have it, honeybee. Tammy hates it, but he loves it. [00:50:49] Speaker A: Rundown. [00:50:50] Speaker B: Yeah. I guess that will conclude the Burning River Rundown. I don't know why we stuck that in there, but we will follow that up with reminding you to call the Burning River Sportscast Hot. Take outline. Yeah, give us a call. Air your grievances. Tell us what you think. Talk about the Cavs Guardians, Browns, whatever you want to talk about. Cleveland. Anything. Tell us you're pissed off at Honey Baked Ham for making their ham so damn expensive. Whatever you want. [00:51:18] Speaker A: Definitely call about honey baked ham. [00:51:21] Speaker B: I might call about honey baked 3302-2780-8033-0227-8080-3302-278. All right, so you know what time it is. Let's take a quick revenue break we're going to take a quick revenue break and get back here to analyze the finalists for the Cleveland Browns Fan Design Dog Logo competition. And we'll do a quick draft recap for the Browns. Recap. [00:51:55] Speaker A: Talk about the draft for the yay. Kenny. [00:52:02] Speaker B: Have you downloaded Apple TV yet? [00:52:04] Speaker A: No. Should I? [00:52:06] Speaker B: Absolutely. Good stuff on there. I think I'm going to check out the show shrinking soon. [00:52:13] Speaker A: Oh, no. I feel like I know what that's about. But what is it about? [00:52:17] Speaker B: Well, Kenny, Jimmy is struggling to grieve the loss of his wife. While being a dad, friend, and therapist, he decides to try a new approach with everyone in his path, including his clients. Unfiltered, brutal honesty. Can he help himself by helping others? Will it bring him back into the light? Ignoring the training and ethics, he finds himself making huge changes to people's lives, including his own. Starring Jason Siegel as Jimmy and Harrison Ford as his mentor, Paul and brought to you by Bill Lawrence, an executive producer of Scrubs and Ted Lasso, this groundbreaking new dramedy series will have you feeling some type of way and keep you wanting more. [00:53:03] Speaker A: Gathered all that from the, huh? Yeah. [00:53:07] Speaker B: So click the link in our show notes to get a free episode and subscribe to Apple TV Plus to binge the rest of the season today. So buy it. [00:53:21] Speaker A: Sounds way better than a show about shrinkage, which is, I thought what it was going to be about. [00:53:25] Speaker B: That's not what it was. That's not what it was. All right, so that'll take us to the new dog logo breakdown. So the Cleveland Browns had a great response to the fan vote last year for the field design. So they decided to do another fan engagement campaign this year. This year it was a redesign for the dog logo that will become the official dog logo of the Cleveland Browns, which is a secondary logo. So it's the official unofficial logo of the Cleveland Browns? Officially. [00:54:20] Speaker A: Yeah. So we don't really know what that means. Is it going to be on the field at any point in time? Probably not. Maybe they're just using it for merchandise and merchandise. Yeah. [00:54:30] Speaker B: And not clear how long it will remain the main dog logo, but they did reveal the top five. Today. We'll talk about them in the order that the top five are revealed. So we're going to start and if you're watching the YouTube version, kenny's going to throw some pictures up here for you so you can see them. Take a look as well. If you're on the radio or I should say on your podcast directory here, we'll kind of describe them to you, let you know. Yeah. So the first one here, we got a profile of a mean looking dog here. And this one, if you've looked at these at all, it's got CLE kind of in its scruff of its neck. And the teeth kind of look like the laces of a football. So those are the kind of things that stand out. In this one, it was submitted by Emily Morgan. She's like this real popular graphic designer on social media right now. Yeah. [00:55:25] Speaker A: I was going to say, it's funny, before this contest, I've seen her do other NFL logo mockups. [00:55:33] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Her Minnesota Vikings one was sick nasty, bro. [00:55:37] Speaker A: Yeah. So she's definitely built a following doing that. And I didn't really realize at first that this was hers. But like I said, we'll kind of break these down, which ones we liked, which ones we didn't. But I will say definitely extra points for including the CLE in the dog scrotum. Scruff. Sorry. In the dog scruff. And the teeth. Looking like a football is unique concept as well. So from a creativity standpoint, this was the most creative logo. It kind of looks like something I would put on my hand and fist you with. So you might lose points there. But that being said, like, pretty cool angry dog profile. It almost has too much orange in it. For me. The orange is so orange and there's just too much of it. [00:56:33] Speaker B: The orange is oranger, bro. Here's the deal. You said this was the most creative one. I don't think this is the most creative one out of all of them. But, I mean, I think this was solid. It does look good. So, again, she's a graphic designer, so she goes ahead and she throws all of her stuff on, like, merchandise so you can see what it would look like. It does look pretty good on merchandise, especially hats. It looks really good on a hat. But, yeah, this one's solid. Right now, it's the top vote getter. We'll see if that stands and if the browns pick it. But not my favorite is what I would say out of the five, but it's pretty good. [00:57:12] Speaker A: Not my favorite. Not my favorite. [00:57:15] Speaker B: But that leads us to this one. That leads us to the next one, which is basically we've got a portrait view of a dog on this one. You know what this dog kind of looks like? It looks like the old dog pound logo from when we had the crazy dumb ass uniforms in, like, 1516 time frame, and it just had that weird silhouette of a dog. It looks like that, but transferred onto a real dog portrait now, and I. [00:57:51] Speaker A: Don'T like it, so I would disagree with you. [00:57:56] Speaker B: I'm pretty sure this was a plant. [00:57:59] Speaker A: I would disagree with you. I think this looks very modern. [00:58:05] Speaker B: Well, you're an idiot. [00:58:08] Speaker A: Looks a little more like pit bully than it does mastiffy. So I kind of like that. I think that's kind of cool. But I love that the top of it has the Browns, like the white stripe, like the football helmet kind of running across the center. [00:58:25] Speaker B: It was a common theme in a lot of these, you'll notice, but yes, I agree. [00:58:30] Speaker A: I do like that. Yeah, I think that's cool. Here's the thing. When I'm thinking about a logo, and this is where I think people went wrong in this contest, because it's one thing to draw a dope ass picture of a dog. It's another to design a logo entirely. Right. Like, think about the most iconic logos on the planet. Think about things like Nike or I don't know, adidas, facebook. [00:58:58] Speaker B: Google? [00:58:59] Speaker A: Yeah, like the very simple design, apple Tap and Media. A child could draw themselves and you'd be able to tell that's Apple or that's Nike. So, to me, a lot of these designs were just there was too much going on for me to be I agree that's a logo. This one, to me, has what I deem to be maybe the least amount going on in terms of busy comparatively to the others, even down to if you look at the collar on this dog, the spikes are big. So it's just one of those that's, like, it's more easily identifiable, which I like. And it's simpler than some of these other ones because I just think you can get way too busy on a logo. [00:59:47] Speaker B: Yeah, that part is fair. I will say that it is probably the most toned down of all of these, except with the exception of one other of the top five, which we'll get to. But it's more of a retro look. For all the modern looking ones, this is the most toned down out of all of them. But like I said, I'm pretty sure this was a plant because there were 389 entries for this thing, and I was going down the list and looking at all of them to see who submitted this one. I wanted to shout out to them, and I could not find this one anywhere. So I'm pretty sure the Cleveland Browns planted this one. So if that's the case, there's a good chance this will be the next one. [01:00:25] Speaker A: That's why it's so good. [01:00:27] Speaker B: Yeah, but it's too cartoony for it. Like I said, I think it looks a lot like that dumb dog pound logo we used back when we had the stupid uniforms. [01:00:39] Speaker A: Are you talking about the very cartoony, puppy like, happy puppy they made? Yeah, it was awful in 2015. [01:00:47] Speaker B: Yeah. The eyes on this look exactly like that. Yes. Pull it up next to each other. The eyes look exactly the same. [01:00:55] Speaker A: You are high, you're high. You are high. You are high in the Outer Banks. [01:01:02] Speaker B: No, I'm not. Not today, at least. But we'll move on here. [01:01:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:10] Speaker B: So we got another one here. We got another profile view. Little profile action going on. This one's. All right. More of a mean look to this one. Different breed of dog, I guess you would say. And they used a lot more brown. This looks more like an actual dog, like a dog face. I don't know how the way the. [01:01:32] Speaker A: Orange is incorporated is it's like the dog is wearing a brown's helmet. [01:01:36] Speaker B: It is kind of like that. Honestly. Here's my big thing with this one. They're going to have a hard time marketing this one because this dog looks rabid and in its eyes. They use the orange in its eyes so it makes it look even more intense. I don't think they're going to be able to market this. [01:01:56] Speaker A: R1 well, the orange eye is about the only thing I like about this. What I don't like is why is the collar brown and the muzzle of the dog brown? It's too much brown. [01:02:11] Speaker B: Too much brown. [01:02:12] Speaker A: Man, there's not a good ratio of color in this one. Plus, I don't know. Dogs have those beauty marks with the whiskers coming out of their face. Logo doesn't need a beauty mark. Come on. [01:02:25] Speaker B: Well, it's got one. [01:02:28] Speaker A: I don't like it. This is my least favorite of all of them. Sorry. [01:02:32] Speaker B: Whoever this was. Second from the bottom for me. So we'll move on to the next one. This one to me. What? This is an updated version with a slightly more mastiffy dog than the dog logo. [01:02:51] Speaker A: That everybody's seen, right? [01:02:56] Speaker B: Which is the Dopest logo. We'll get into that in a minute. But anyway, this one here, I will say this one is my favorite. So some of the things that stuck out to me on this one there's a lot of hidden details on this. I like when you hide details in logos. The state of Ohio is on the ear. If you're looking at it. On the left hand side of it would be the dog's right ear. The state of outline of the state of Ohio. [01:03:17] Speaker A: Wait. On. [01:03:23] Speaker B: The orange in its ear, if you're looking at it on the left hand side, that's the state of Ohio. [01:03:29] Speaker A: That's the state of Ohio. Yeah. If that is the hidden state of Ohio, I'm Bob Saget. [01:03:38] Speaker B: Okay? You're an idiot. The other things that are in this are it has the stadium on the dog tag with the east end zone highlighted for the dog pound. That's pretty cool. It's highlighted in white around the outside of the dog tag. And then in the middle of the dog tag is a guitar pick as a nod to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. It's got a football for a nose. [01:04:04] Speaker A: It's a dog's nose. They all look like guitar picks. [01:04:09] Speaker B: The guitar pick is in a dog tag, so you're not even looking in the right place. [01:04:15] Speaker A: The dog tag is the stadium. [01:04:18] Speaker B: The inside of the dog tag looks like a guitar pick. The middle of it the nose. The nose is a foot. It's got a whole thing breaking it down. I'll even send it to you so you can put it up on the screen. The nose is a football. There's eight spikes on the collar to represent our eight championships. The Guardian Bridge, the Hope Memorial Bridge tower or column is below the jowls on this thing. There's the helmet stripe on the head like Kenny Loves. There's a helmet stripe on the head like Kenny loves. Dog pound helmet above the eye on the right side, which is the helmet with no face mask. That's what they wear in the dog pound. [01:05:02] Speaker A: And then a bunch of random shapes on this dog. I get it. [01:05:06] Speaker B: Yeah, this dog's fantastic. I know you don't like it. You think it's too busy, but I'm a big fan of this. This one's my favorite. [01:05:13] Speaker A: It's way too fucking busy for anyone to even stomach. The ears look like they were put on upside down, and I just don't understand. It's very stoic. And I do notice the Guardians Bridge kind of sticks out to me. And I do like the white stripe on the head. Maybe I'll just dye a white stripe down my hair. [01:05:40] Speaker B: That would be something. [01:05:43] Speaker A: This just doesn't look like something that you can just put on a too. There's way too much going on. [01:05:51] Speaker B: Agree to disagree. [01:05:54] Speaker A: And they did way too much shadow. Like this thing's got it looks like Two Face. [01:05:59] Speaker B: I will say. Some people I saw on Twitter, somebody was making fun of it, and they just posted a picture of the outline of Darth Vader's helmet next to it. [01:06:08] Speaker A: Yeah, that's kind of what it looks like is Darth Vader. Yeah, way too much. [01:06:13] Speaker B: But anyways, so, yeah, my favorite, kenny doesn't like it. [01:06:16] Speaker A: It is stoic and mean looking, like a dog should be. There's just too much going on. [01:06:22] Speaker B: Then we got this last one here, which is like a real retro one. It looks a lot like the old dog pound logos from way back in the day. I think this is another plant because, again, I couldn't find who submitted this one, but obvious homage to those old designs of the past, but it's just not for me. It's way too retro. It just kind of looks silly. [01:06:45] Speaker A: I actually love this logo. Well, that's because you're an idiot. We have, as Ronnie mentioned, the retro kind of looking dog. You know what the dog actually kind of reminds me of is the duck hunt dog laughing at you as you missed the that's what you want. I don't like that. His jowls kind of look like balls. But outside of that, again, we have the brown stripe coming down the middle of the face. He's got some fangs sticking out. Anatomically, the dog looks normal. Also, we're just making up shapes of things and saying that they are of them. If you look at the way that the lips come down over the balls in the middle of his face and the way his ears stick out and the way that his head is humped, it almost looks like a football player. [01:07:37] Speaker B: Yeah, I guess. Great. [01:07:40] Speaker A: Yes. I do think that this logo probably would have been a great logo 15 years ago. It's a little dated. [01:07:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:07:49] Speaker A: That being said, it's very clean. It is clean, like recognizable. But I just think that I think they're going to have to go with something a little more modern. [01:08:03] Speaker B: All right, so what's your pick? [01:08:06] Speaker A: Yes, my pick is this one that Ronnie is the plant with the dope, definitely. And the white stripe down the head. And his nose also looks like a football and a guitar pick. And I think it's just a nice looking dog. Man, it looks mean. I wouldn't mind if this dog was on our helmets. [01:08:29] Speaker B: All right, well, you can have that dog. I'm going to go with Darth Vader. Darth Vader is my favorite. So that's it for the logo analysis that we gave you. Hard hitting Logo analysis from Burning River Sportscast. So next up, we've got the Cleveland Browns 2023 draft recap. [01:08:54] Speaker A: Cleveland Browns are now on the clock. [01:09:00] Speaker B: All right, Kenny, here's the deal. The draft happened. It's over with. It's done with. There's not really a lot left to talk about with it. So we're going to speed through this thing because I'm on vacation and I want to go. [01:09:14] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm hungry, too. I was just going to say, do we even have to talk about the draft? No, we'll give it its due credence here we'll go through the draft picks. I mean, it's not like it was a bad draft. [01:09:25] Speaker B: No, we'll give it a quick grade at the end, but I'll run down the picks here. You can interject if you got something to say about any of them, but I'll just run down some of the numbers. We'll give stats for them, height, weight, that type of thing, what position they play, what pick they were and what their grade was, their prospect grade from NFL.com coming in and what that means. [01:09:47] Speaker A: So basically a draft recap. [01:09:49] Speaker B: Just quick, though. So to start off with, in round three, pick number 74, the Browns took Cedric Tillman, wide receiver out of Tennessee. Dude six, 3213 pounds, had a draft prospect grade of 6.38. And what that means is they rate him as an eventual plus starter is what they call him. So they think he's going to be a standout starter eventually. So good pick there. [01:10:17] Speaker A: This was a guy that dropped considerably in the draft, mostly due to injury he had last year to get a toe or something that cut them out. A number of games. The year before that, he was very highly regarded as, what, maybe a top receiver in the next year's draft. So, look, I think there's some good things here. Good size for sure isn't going to blow anybody away with his speed. It was a four five five or a four five eight guy in the 40. But it's sufficient. I mean, there's a lot of guys in that. I mean, you look at DeAndre Hopkins and some of these guys didn't run four, three in the 40. They know how to maneuver their body. [01:10:58] Speaker B: And how to 40 is kind of one of those. If you've got the size and you've got the talent, the 40 is one of the most overrated things in football. [01:11:07] Speaker A: Yeah. I will say this, I don't know if it's for his whole career or if it was for last season, but he didn't have a single marked drop. [01:11:20] Speaker B: Yeah, which is pretty impressive. [01:11:22] Speaker A: It's a time frame on that. [01:11:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:26] Speaker A: That'S always important. Catch the ball. [01:11:29] Speaker B: Next up, round three, pick number 98, Siaki Ika, defensive tackle out of Baylor. This dude's, six, 3335 pounds. His prospect grade was a 6.23, which equals an eventual average starter, but still a starter. So you're picking up a potential starter in round three according to NFL.com. So another solid pickup run stopper, for sure. This is a guy that's going to eat blocks. [01:12:01] Speaker A: Yeah. Another guy that fits the needs. Right. We talked about needing receivers, talked about needing interior, defensive lineman. I think the most important person on the Browns staff next year will be the nutritionist, because this guy is a little more Rikishi and a lot less Roman Reigns. [01:12:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:12:23] Speaker A: When I saw the pictures of this guy. I was like, how does he even move? [01:12:27] Speaker B: I like how you kept it in the family there. [01:12:30] Speaker A: It's all about the family, bro. The. [01:12:35] Speaker B: I like that. I like know you guys don't know it, but we're big wrestling fans here. Pat McAfee. Hit us up. We could talk. [01:12:43] Speaker A: Yeah. Look, I don't have high expectations for this guy. I don't have low expectations for this guy. I think that if he can shed ten pounds this year and work on his balance and things, then hopefully he'll be a real good plug up the middle. We'll see. [01:13:00] Speaker B: Yeah. NFL.com got it right, I think. Eventual average starter, which is fine. [01:13:06] Speaker A: Yeah. It doesn't cost you anything. This is a third round draft pick. No big deal. Yeah. [01:13:11] Speaker B: Next up here is the guy that I'm most excited for in the entire draft. Round four pick number 111 is Dewan Jones, offensive tackle out of Ohio State. 68 374, prospect grade of 6.32, which is an eventual. [01:13:31] Speaker A: Tighten weight. [01:13:31] Speaker B: Again, six, 8374 pounds. [01:13:40] Speaker A: This dude can dunk a basketball. [01:13:43] Speaker B: Dude's nickname is big thanos yeah, it. [01:13:48] Speaker A: Is a mountain of a man. [01:13:50] Speaker B: But his prospect grade was a 6.32, which is eventual plus starter that you're getting in the fourth round. He did not give up a single sack last season. He was one of only five right tackles with at least 700 snaps that didn't give up a single sack last season. So he's pretty impressive. I mean, this was a steal. At this point in the draft, I. [01:14:11] Speaker A: Think he's obviously huge. It's kind of sad, like, when the most exciting person in our draft is a fourth rounder and offensive lineman. Look, love the fact that he's an Ohio State kid. Absolute monster of a human being. There's no way they want his build weight to be 374 come the start of the season. So again, I think the nutritionist is key here because he's going to have to lose a few lbs. [01:14:40] Speaker B: Kenny, you should go be their nutritionist. [01:14:44] Speaker A: With a honey baked tam diet. [01:14:45] Speaker B: Yeah, have him running for honey baked tam. [01:14:49] Speaker A: But that being said, it's not like he didn't play at that weight at Ohio State. [01:14:53] Speaker B: He was affected. [01:14:55] Speaker A: Obviously, he's very good, but yeah, I just think he's one of those guys that's a little bit of a project because you don't know when exactly he'll be called into action. Certainly we have some questions on our offensive line, so it might come sooner rather than later. Sounds like he dropped a little bit because he had some issues answering questions during scouting and combine. [01:15:23] Speaker B: I don't put a lot of stock into. [01:15:25] Speaker A: Yeah. Notably, there was a question about what his dream was, and his dream was that he wanted to be in the NBA and so they kind of made this out to just like they did with Stroud, like, almost to make it sound like the guy couldn't even answer a question. So I doubt he was that bad. [01:15:42] Speaker B: People hate Ohio State, man. [01:15:45] Speaker A: Yeah. And I also don't think that just because my dream was to play in the NBA doesn't mean that I didn't realize I had the body for the NFL. I'm like, that's my job. I dream of being a rock star every day, but I only get to do that in the car on the way to work. I still have to have a normal. [01:15:58] Speaker B: Job and have a job that pays you nothing with this. Yeah, I mean, like I said, I think he was the biggest deal of the draft. And the thing that I'm most excited about with Dewan Jones is I believe we have found the replacement for one. [01:16:21] Speaker A: Wills, so well, you're not going to lose him, that's for sure. Who. You said, we found him, seem not going to lose him. [01:16:31] Speaker B: Good joke. Yeah, but yeah, that's exciting. Jedrick Wills. Speaking of that, we didn't mention that earlier, but they did pick up his fifth year option for some ungodly reason, so we're stuck with him for another year. It's so they could get Dewan Jones ready. [01:16:53] Speaker A: Hopefully not count on Jed to get Dewan ready. No. [01:17:00] Speaker B: Next up, we got Isaiah Maguire. Round four, pick 126, defensive end out of Missouri, 64, 268 6.22 for his grade. So he'll be an eventual average starter according to NFL.com. Solid pickup here. I think what you kind of have seen is they were trying to get guys that they think could eventually start as often as they could throughout this draft. [01:17:25] Speaker A: When I think that they went with a lot of measurables here, I think they went with this guy is the prototypical size for a speed rusher. Somebody to complement Miles. Will he ever be as fast as Miles? Will he ever be as strong as Miles? Maybe not, but he has the body for it, and he's an absolute project, so we'll see what comes of it. But pick makes sense from where they're drafting. [01:17:54] Speaker B: I agree. I agree. So next up, Dorian Thompson Robinson. This is where it went off the fucking rails for me. Round five, pick number 140, QB out of UCLA, 6223, prospect, grade of 5.69, which is candidate for bottom of the roster or practice squad. So to say this was a reach is understating it. I don't know why they decided that they thought they needed this guy right here. I understand the fit with he's kind of the same style and build as the quarterbacks we have on our roster, but I don't know why they felt the need to use a fifth rounder. [01:18:35] Speaker A: On this was this was an Obama pick, right? This was a pick made of hope. This was very strange, to be fair to this kid. I didn't watch a ton of UCLA football last year. Nobody did. But there's a reason nobody really did. Look, I think, again, measurables, right? He looks and seems like he can play the same style of offense as Deshaun Watson. Based on his height and his frame, you can probably run a similar offense out of him. Is he the playmaker? Deshaun is clearly not, but I think he becomes now a project. And I think the hope is with a guy like this is that A, he can become your backup, your long term backup for a guy like Deshaun, and you can develop him from A, raw talent into something good. And two or B, I don't know what I said, a or one, he maybe ends up being one of those guys like a trade bait, like Bill Belichick always seems to get with backup quarterbacks. When Tom Brady was, Jacobi Brusette was. [01:19:43] Speaker B: For most of us, has been for most. [01:19:46] Speaker A: Yeah, maybe he ends up being a guy that you can steal a third round pick from later. And what did it cost you this year? A fifth round pick. So we'll see. [01:19:54] Speaker B: So, next up, Cameron Mitchell. Round five. Pick 142, cornerback out of Northwestern, 511 191, prospect rate of 5.66. So another candidate for bottom of the roster or practice squad. So now I think they're kind of starting to as we got into round five, they're kind of just starting to take shots in the dark, find whoever they can. Maybe this guy has the measurables, like you said, and can turn into something eventually. But I always laugh because people like to mock draft all the way down to the end of the draft at this point. Round five and beyond, complete crapshoot. [01:20:33] Speaker A: Agreed. Yeah. Look, what division is Northwestern in? [01:20:42] Speaker B: Big Ten. [01:20:44] Speaker A: Yeah. They're known for having stout, passive defenses, aren't they? [01:20:49] Speaker B: Lots of speed. [01:20:50] Speaker A: We'll see a little bit on the undersized end, but he's not far off. So we'll see he's farther off from today's corners than he prototypically in years past. 511 191 was good size, but in the game today, it's like six foot. [01:21:09] Speaker B: Like 205 is where you're at. Yeah. [01:21:11] Speaker A: I mean, a lot of these guys are 6162 even that you see playing corner because the receivers are so big and can jump. Now you almost have to. Yeah, we'll see. I mean, again, clearly, developmental pick somebody that's going to be on the practice squad, and we'll see if he ever gets into a game or even makes a team. Yeah. [01:21:31] Speaker B: So next up, last pick of the draft, because our final pick was traded, was Round Six pick 190, Luke Whipler, center out of Ohio State, six three three prospect, grade of 6.2, which is eventual average starter. And this was the first time the Browns took two Buckeyes in the same draft since 1965. So I was pretty excited about this. [01:21:57] Speaker A: Which is so bizarre because just by Osmosis, just by the fact that you live here, you see a lot more Ohio State football. [01:22:06] Speaker B: You'd think they'd be better at scouting Ohio State than they were. They have been. [01:22:10] Speaker A: And Ohio State consistently has a strong running game, and it's because they have some of the best big Uglies in the country. And so, yeah, these two picks of Ohio State offensive linemen are sneaky picks that will make Andrew Barry look really good when both of these guys become top tier starters in the league. Because there's been a lot of people that have been able to run the ball behind Ohio State offensive linemen for the last 20 years in the NFL. So these are both guys that I think could be absolutely starters within the next three years. I agree. [01:22:47] Speaker B: I liked both those picks. Overall thoughts? For me, I thought it was fine. The biggest glaring need that we didn't address whatsoever was linebackers. So I'm upset about that. And because of that, that holds their draft grade back for me. For me, I would give them just simply for value based off of what we didn't have. We didn't have a first rounder, we didn't have a second rounder. I would give us a B, and that's being generous, honestly, because we didn't do anything with linebacker. But I thought we did get a lot of value for not having those first rounders. I mean, you look at it and that was what did 12344 or, uh, potential starters when you don't have a first or a second. [01:23:37] Speaker A: So, yeah, I was shocked that there was no attempt to take a linebacker. Apparently Jim Shorts doesn't need those, so fine. That's fair. Who does? We'll see how that worked out for Joe Woods when he didn't need defensive tackles. But that was strange to me, the fact that Andrew Berry didn't take a running back this year. Also a little OD, especially given the soon to be departure of Nick Chubb. But, yeah, those two things just stuck out as kind of weird overall. Look, it's a hard draft to grade because I think they were in a position where with limited picks, you have to pick best available on your board. And I think they probably did that. So, again, excited about the two offensive linemen from Ohio State. You got some interesting options in talent and the wide receiver and the defensive line. So we'll see if those guys pan out or not. But honestly, they're wild cards. They're crapshoots. And you don't know because they were third and fifth and 6th round picks. But I will say this when I'm grading this draft, I also have to say the picks that we didn't have were picks that were used on. [01:24:57] Speaker B: And Elijah Moore. [01:24:59] Speaker A: Watson and Elijah Moore? Yeah, it was a third round pick. So if I consider those things like, was I going to get a better player in the third round as a receiver than Elijah Moore? Probably not. And was there a quarterback in this draft that is as good as Deshaun Watson is today? I think maybe in a couple of years you could maybe have that argument. If one of these guys goes absolutely. So to me, I think it's a really high C plus of a draft. Maybe if Deshaun had played better in the last six games last year, maybe I'd give you a B minus. But he was so god awful at the end of the year that I think this year you have some apprehension just going into the season. But I still have confidence that he's going to be a top ten or twelve quarterback in the NFL this year. And I like what they've done with those picks. They turned him into talent, into Sean and Elijah Moore. And then you went and said, world's olds, let's go get the best things we can get. And that's what they so I agree. And hold that against them. Yep. [01:26:01] Speaker B: So finally we're going to run through the undrafted free agents here. It's just a quick undrafted free agent review. I'm not even pausing for sounder for you. That's how quick we're going to do this thing. So I'm just going to list off who we got, what their position is, and then you let me know which one of these guys sticks out to you as far as who you think could make an impact on the team if they make the roster. So starting out, we got safety Ronnie Hickman from Ohio State, defensive lineman Lonnie Phillips from Kansas, linebacker Mohamed Diabati from. [01:26:36] Speaker A: Utah, running back, I like him because his name looks like diabetes. [01:26:42] Speaker B: Running back Hassan Hall from Georgia Tech, tight end Thomas Greeney from Albany, defensive end Jeremiah Martin from Washington. [01:26:53] Speaker A: Let's see. [01:26:54] Speaker B: Safety Charlie Thomas from Georgia Tech. Cornerback Tanner McAllister from Ohio State. And cornerback Caleb Biggers from Boise State. So any of those stick out to you as far as who's going to make an impact on the Browns roster? [01:27:07] Speaker A: Just the fact that they went back to the well at Ohio State a few times. Ronnie Hickman's one that's an interesting one that I think potentially could have been drafted by an NFL ball club. So almost a surprise to see him go totally undrafted. Not that he's the next Ed Reed or anything, but I think he can be a role player on an NFL defense for, so I think he's one that sticks out. Hassan hall, there's your running back signed. Yeah, they didn't draft a running back, but they sure went and found one right at the end of the year. Again, going by measurables, 510 196. This is a guy that's not an every down bruiser. It's kind of the archetype that we talked about. If you're going to replace Chubb, you're going to do it by committee. You're going to have two or three guys that can rotate in and out, that are quick, that have hands, catch, takes the ball to the backfield, and you run by committee. The rest of these names on this list truthfully look like practice squad guys. Maybe Mohammed Diabetes here the Abadi from Utah, just because absolute need may force him into action if he ends up making the team. But most of these guys truly look like they're probably not going to be on an active roster come day one. Outside of. Maybe ronnie. Hickman. [01:28:25] Speaker B: Yeah, my favorite in this is actually Lonnie Phelps from Kansas. He's 6245, had real high PFF grades all throughout college. A lot of pressures on the quarterback. I like him. He actually did get rated as a good backup and potential eventual starter. I like him coming out of this thing. And then I also really like Ronnie Hickman because he's got a dope ass name. So I hope he makes a team. And he's a starting free safety this year, because that'd be dope. [01:28:59] Speaker A: Yeah, he's got good size for the position. And again, he's one of those guys that's played in meaningful. So I think that experience, when you get to that bubble level, the NFL probably gives you an advantage over some of these other guys that if you went to Albany, for example, you might have good measurables, but you never played a football game. [01:29:20] Speaker B: You don't know what it's like. [01:29:21] Speaker A: Anyone. [01:29:21] Speaker B: You don't know what it's like. Yeah, so, yeah, that'll do it for the undrafted free agents here, which takes us right into a reminder to give us a call on the Bernard River sportscast hot take. [01:29:34] Speaker A: Hotline, hot take outline. [01:29:36] Speaker B: Give us a call. Let us know what you think. Agree with the draft analysis that we just had. Disagree with it. Agree with the undrafted free agent analysis. Disagree with it. Tell us what you think about the dog logos, Kenny. What else do I want to know. [01:29:50] Speaker A: Is about the dang dog logos. And don't tell anybody that you agree with Ronie. Tell everybody you agree with me because I picked the better logo. [01:29:58] Speaker B: No, your logo is ass. [01:30:01] Speaker A: Your logo's ass. It looks like it goes in an ass. [01:30:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:30:04] Speaker A: Anyway, that's a different that's a different one. Sorry. [01:30:07] Speaker B: Anyway, 3302-2780-8033-0227-8033-0227-8 call now. And don't forget to stop by Thetapinmedia.com Shop and visit our shop that has all of our wonderful merchandise. Kenny, point at your hat. [01:30:33] Speaker A: That's good advice, Ronie. [01:30:35] Speaker B: Yeah, that one, that hat right there. And that dope flag behind. Nice. Very nice. Got the Dopest podcast cover in the game on it. [01:30:47] Speaker A: Can we sell these? Can we put bringer will people buy? [01:30:51] Speaker B: I'll be in the basement cutting them out. Yeah, no, we won't sell those. But anyways, Kenny, what can we expect in next episode? [01:31:02] Speaker A: Next episode will be back here in two weeks. Ronnie will be back in the studio. We will cover any breaking Browns calves and Guardians news, keeping track of the Guardians season as it goes on, and we'll see what else happens. I mean, we got know, scheduled game and stuff coming up that we'll be able to, um your favorite game, an interview or something. Your favorite game schedule game, fart game. Yeah, that's what we'll do in two weeks. [01:31:34] Speaker B: Yep. Don't forget to check us out on social media. Tap in Media is on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram at the Tap in Media burning River Sportscast. That's this podcast is on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and YouTube at Burning River Sportscast and on Twitter at Burning River pod and don't forget to check out the actual podcast wherever you get your podcasts. I'm talking Apple podcasts. Spotify. Google podcasts. Amazon Music. Stitcher. Pandora. iHeartRadio Podcast Castro. Good Pots. And so many more. [01:32:03] Speaker A: So many more. [01:32:05] Speaker B: Kenny, you know what time it is? [01:32:08] Speaker A: It is almost dinner time, but it is not yet. [01:32:11] Speaker B: It's time for all right, Kenny, make this quick. What do you got for me? [01:32:25] Speaker A: I'm going to make this as quick as I possibly can, but these are mind bending facts playing with dinosaurs. Quick sidebar. I won't take too long on this, but we were watching Peaky Blinders and my wife goes, that guy sounds like Bane. And I was like, he is Bane. She just did not get anyway, facts for days. You were playing dinosaurs, you're little and every kid learns some names of dinosaurs, and when you learn them, you feel cool. [01:33:08] Speaker B: Velociraptor. [01:33:09] Speaker A: Yeah. What's, like, the three dinosaurs that you'd learn as a kid, though? [01:33:14] Speaker B: Stegosaurus, trex and triceratops. [01:33:18] Speaker A: Triceratops is good. I was going to say brontosaurus, but yeah, I'll throw a triceratops in his honorable mention. [01:33:24] Speaker B: The old long. Nice. [01:33:26] Speaker A: Yeah. They land before time, and in our minds, we kind of just think like dinosaurs. They all just, like, hung out together and had a good time. Right. The Trexes were just chasing the stegosaurus. He's whipping them with his tail. bronosaurus is eating leaves. Well, truthfully, the Tyrannosaurus Rex lived 68 to 66 million years ago. The Stegosaurus lived 155 to 150,000,000 years ago, meaning the time gap between Tyrannosaurus and Stegosaurus is 82 million years. So we are technically alive, closer to the time of Trex than the Stegosaurus bro. Stegosaurus. You mean to tell me that land. [01:34:16] Speaker B: Before time is not based on a true story? [01:34:20] Speaker A: Not historically accurate? No. [01:34:26] Speaker B: Dang you got to be kidding me. My whole world's been shook right now. [01:34:32] Speaker A: See? You're shook. How about this one? Try this on for size, Ronnie. [01:34:39] Speaker B: Okay. [01:34:40] Speaker A: The number one producer of tires in the entire world is Akron, Ohio. Wrong. [01:34:51] Speaker B: It used to be. It's not anymore. [01:34:53] Speaker A: I was going to say a company, but Goodyear just a city Goodyear. Wrong. It's Lego. [01:35:04] Speaker B: Their little tires count. [01:35:06] Speaker A: The toy company produces approximately 306,000,000 tires per year, far more than any other tire manufacturer in the world. They may be tiny toy tires, but the fact remains still counts. Still counts. Okay, this last one is a little bit long. [01:35:26] Speaker B: That was like a trick one. That was like, it could be a tire, but it could not be a tire. Like, you would have never thought of this tire, because it's a tiny little tire that goes on a tiny little car. [01:35:36] Speaker A: Now, your mind is blown, I'm going to hurt your brain one more time. This one's really going to take you for a spin, so bear with me. It's going to take one quick second to just get through the details. But afterwards, I promise, the payoff is totally worth it. So many, many years ago, the year 1674, there was a man named William Blunden who was married to a woman named Alice Blunden. His wife was a fat, gross woman who accustomed herself many times a day to drinking brandy. One day, she imbibed herself into an absolute stupor on an enormous quantity of poppy water and fell into the deepest of sleeps, from which no one could awaken. Her doctor was consulted, I think was an apothecary at this time, probably. [01:36:36] Speaker B: Oh, nice, because he wears a nose. [01:36:39] Speaker A: Probably. And it was concluded that Alice Blunden had died. Her husband William, had urgent business in the city and left instruction that her funeral should be deferred until his return. But Alice's family said, it's the summertime, it's real hot and she's real fat and, of course, just isn't going to hold. So it's going to just be impossible to keep her. We got to put her in the ground, of course. So, without further delay, we've buried Miss Alice Blunden. A few days later, boys who were playing nearby heard a voice from a cemetery. Those voice continued and continued until we dug up the body of Alice Blunden. The body was said to be found to be most lamentably beaten, which was thought to be the result of injuries inflicted by Alice on herself in her own confinement. Being that she was buried alive, being unable to detect any other signs of continuing life, they lowered Alice back into the ground overnight, poured the dirt back over her, and the next day, we hear voices again coming out of the ground in the cemetery. [01:38:06] Speaker B: This is getting wild, man. [01:38:08] Speaker A: So we dig Alice Blunden and her body back up out of the grave and we bring the coroner and we say, this woman has died at least twice, but we keep hearing noises, so we got to do something. So they bury her and take her out and they open it up. And what they find when they open up her coffin is that she had torn off all of her clothes, scratched herself in several places and ripped off her own mouth. So at this point, she was definitely dead. The corps found that her life had been thrown away and bound over several persons, that eventually no one was convicted of anything. But the town did face a considerable fine for their neglect. This woman was buried alive twice. She was so mad about it, she ripped off her own mouth. [01:39:08] Speaker B: What? [01:39:11] Speaker A: Yes. So this fear of being buried alive is a very common fear. And so this eventually led to the arch, the Duke of Ferdinand of Brunswick, before his death in 1792. Having. The very first safety coffin installed. This coffin had a window installed to allow light in an air tube to provide a fresh supply of air. And instead of having a lid nailed down with a hammer, he had a lock fitted to it. So this became really popular during ensuing centuries because of stories like this. This was a really bad one, because they screwed it up twice. But there were a lot of other reports of people being buried alive back during this time, because apparently these apothecaries and these doctors weren't very good at determining whether people were alive or dead. They wore giant noses, couldn't see people were still breathing. So despite all the technological progress in coffins, there's not a single known case of a safety coffin actually saving the life of an occupant. And there can only be two reasons for this. Either everyone was put away dead as intended, or, more worryingly, it didn't work. Essentially, they had an air duct and a bell and into a string. And so if you wake up inside, just to ring it, let everybody know you're still alive, to get you out of creep as possible. But that woman got buried twice. [01:40:35] Speaker B: Bro, I want a safety coffin. [01:40:39] Speaker A: Yeah, you're going to want one now, don't you? [01:40:41] Speaker B: Yeah, I want one. I want a safety coffin. [01:40:43] Speaker A: There's nothing worse than that. That is a huge problem. And if you're going to be a part of the problem, don't just settle for being a part of the problem, be the whole damn problem. [01:40:55] Speaker B: And only you can prevent river fires burning river sports cast. I got to go enjoy my vacation, man. I'm out of here. [01:41:06] Speaker A: Danning river burning river remove remote. [01:41:10] Speaker B: Remote burning river forecast. [01:41:15] Speaker A: Because you drove a Hyundai to get here tonight? I drove an $80,000 BMW. That's my name. What do you mean, funny? Funny? How am I funny? [01:41:26] Speaker B: It rubs the lotion on its skin. [01:41:28] Speaker A: Or else it gets the hose again. [01:41:32] Speaker B: Erroneous erroneous erroneous on both counts. I am the danger. A guy opens his door and gets. [01:41:42] Speaker A: Shot and you think out of me? No, I am the one who knocks. I desperately want to make love to a schoolboy motorboat. You play the motorboat, you motorboat son of a bitch. You old sailor, you. We are thrilled we approve of media. [01:42:11] Speaker B: Today's episode was brought to you by Rafflepress. Rafflepress is the best WordPress giveaway plugin, period. Grow your email list, website traffic and social media followers with viral giveaways and contests. Click the link in our show notes and download Rafflepress for your WordPress website now and supercharge the rate at which you acquire a following.

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