Episode Transcript
[00:00:25] Speaker A: Cast. The birds are chirping, pools are being filled, key moves have been made, and offseason workouts are underway. With the misery of winter looking firmly now in the rear view and the seasons turning right before our eyes, the city of Cleveland was dealt one more cold blow with the passing of the greatest football player of all time, james Nathaniel Brown. A name that rings immortal in northeastern Ohio. Beyond outstanding football player, civil rights activist and actor, an icon and a legend. No, his slate wasn't all the way clean, but who's amongst us is? With the multitude of accomplishments, leadership, and charisma, his impact reached far beyond the gridiron and solidified his goat status. So strap on in, bitches, as we discuss all that and more, next on.
[00:01:13] Speaker B: The Burning River Sportscast fun fact about the potato family. The launch of Air Lingus, which it sounds like they're doing more than flying. Yeah, it sounds like they're doing some crazy stuff.
[00:01:23] Speaker A: Some lingus.
[00:01:24] Speaker B: I'm excited for my flight.
[00:01:27] Speaker A: Remember when David and Joker got hyperthermia by halftime last year for going outside without his shirt on?
[00:01:31] Speaker B: We should just all be friends.
[00:01:33] Speaker A: F is for friends who do stuff together.
[00:01:36] Speaker B: U is for you and me.
[00:01:39] Speaker A: N is for anywhere at any time at all.
[00:01:43] Speaker B: I want Jimmy Butler to I mean, I hope he just straight takes it to the nuggets. He's going to walk.
[00:01:49] Speaker A: If he walks, they won't win many games because he's better when he I.
[00:01:53] Speaker B: Just good joke, guys. I hate you. I don't think I've ever been three quarter chubb.
[00:01:59] Speaker A: Welcome into the Burning River sports cast I'm Kenny Thunder, seated beside Lou Vega's nephew and personal injury attorney, red Hot Ronnie Jams, making sure we're OSHA compliant. We have the human wrecking ball big seals on the board today. And Ronnie, where can we find the only Browns pod, complete with a little bit of mambo?
[00:02:15] Speaker B: I can't believe I'm his nephew and lawyer.
You can find our podcast wherever you get your podcasts. I'm talking Apple Podcasts, spotify Stitcher. Google Podcasts. Amazon Music. Pandora iHeartRadio Podcast castro good pods and so many more.
[00:02:28] Speaker A: So many more.
[00:02:28] Speaker B: So, so many more.
[00:02:30] Speaker A: Know, Ronnie, I heard something interesting that they wanted to kick things off for us. Did you?
[00:02:35] Speaker B: Usually I kick things off.
[00:02:36] Speaker A: No. Today I'm kicking off.
[00:02:38] Speaker B: It's not my turn.
[00:02:39] Speaker A: No, you're out.
[00:02:40] Speaker B: It's your turn.
[00:02:40] Speaker A: You're on the bench.
[00:02:41] Speaker B: It's you. Oh. I went to vacation and said I didn't give a shit. So you said, I'll take over this segment of the show.
[00:02:47] Speaker A: Now you've officially been benched. All right. Did you know that Cleveland has a sister city in Ireland?
[00:02:56] Speaker B: In Ireland.
[00:02:57] Speaker A: In Ireland.
[00:02:58] Speaker B: In Ireland.
[00:02:59] Speaker A: So I saw this come across because actually, my cousin is traveling to Ireland right now, and I'm looking at this.
[00:03:04] Speaker B: We'Re going in September.
[00:03:05] Speaker A: Yeah. Are you going to eat potatoes?
[00:03:08] Speaker B: There's a famine.
[00:03:09] Speaker A: No, not anymore. It's gone.
[00:03:10] Speaker C: It's over.
[00:03:11] Speaker A: They're better now. My cousin's over there traveling, and apparently there was a contingent from the city of Cleveland, including Mayor Bibb, that was in Ireland. This just I couldn't figure out at first what this means or why we're sister cities. I'd never heard this before. Like, do we send them money and aid? This just publicity for publicity's sake. There's apparently a stone out on a chill island, a Plymouth Rock, if you will, for Clevelanders. Oh, not the Blarney that declares that we are sister cities.
[00:03:46] Speaker B: That's nice.
[00:03:47] Speaker A: From about 2002 or 2003. So then Mayor Bib was there, and they added to this Plymouth Rock, this Ireland Rock, a new plaque commemorating his 2023 visit.
And I had no idea why this was a thing or why there's some random hillbilly town in Ireland that we have some kind of partnership to. But it turns out, in 2003, under Mayor Jane Campbell, cleveland partnered as a sister city with the county of Mayo as a celebration of the ancestral lineage of most Irish Clevelanders from that region, as well as the creation of numerous new business and social opportunities between Irish and Cleveland communities. So I started digging into this a little bit, and it's kind of interesting. It goes back to when they dug the Ohio Erie Canal. We needed workers to dig, and there were apparently a bunch of people in Ireland that were like, we want to dig a canal. That sounds so they made the trip across the pond, helped to dig our canal. It was supposed to be temporary work, but a lot of them found that they liked it here, stayed. Then there was, as you mentioned, the great potato famine. Bad time with many people starving of potato famine.
[00:04:58] Speaker B: Fun fact about the potato famine before we go on. Yeah. You didn't know this was coming. If you look up the potato famine, it's even worse, because while there was a potato famine, there was no shortage of food. The government was shipping the food over to other countries that they deemed they had special interest in or whatever, and they were literally starving their own people to ship food out of the country. Just look up the potato famine and all the stuff behind it. It's pretty crazy.
[00:05:26] Speaker A: I mean, Ireland's pretty wild, bro.
But I guess we were the beneficiary of that because we had a ton of people immigrate from Ireland to Cleveland to eventually they made up around 10% of the population of Cleveland was Irish folks.
[00:05:40] Speaker B: So between the Irish and my people, the Polish, it's basically all of Cleveland.
[00:05:45] Speaker A: It's basically all Cleveland.
[00:05:46] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:05:46] Speaker A: I mean, Lithuanians, Jennifer Augoskis and his family.
But I guess that's the story. So if you didn't know, we have a sister city in Ireland, and apparently we have 23 other or 22 other sister cities around the globe for so.
[00:06:00] Speaker B: You told us this fact just to tell us it's not very special to be sister cities with Cleveland?
[00:06:05] Speaker A: I guess not. But apparently this is all now part of a new publicity promotion for the Air Lingus. Nonstop flights to Ireland.
[00:06:14] Speaker B: They just started about a month ago. They started nonstop flights to Ireland from Cleveland. We're taking advantage, like I said, in September, we're going to Ireland and having a ten day trip over there, exploring the whole country.
Countries are weird in Europe because countries are like states, and so you just travel all over it.
[00:06:32] Speaker A: Yeah. You could drive all the way across Europe in, like, a day.
[00:06:34] Speaker B: Yeah. It's just crazy to me, because when we think of countries here, you're like, oh, man, you're traveling the whole country. Yeah, it takes 4 hours. Our frame of reference is skewed in the United States.
[00:06:49] Speaker A: Well, that's because we're much better.
[00:06:52] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:06:54] Speaker A: Is this your first time out of the country? Like, not like to to?
[00:06:58] Speaker B: No, I've been to Canada. I've been to Mexico. Both those don't count.
[00:07:01] Speaker A: Those don't count because they're North America.
[00:07:02] Speaker B: But I did go to Costa Rica for that's. Right?
[00:07:06] Speaker A: You went to sing with the Colombian. Bam BAMS.
[00:07:09] Speaker B: Yeah. Costa Rica was pretty sweet. I would retire there. They would look at me as, like, the very wealthy man in Costa Rica.
[00:07:16] Speaker A: You would just be the warlord.
[00:07:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:07:17] Speaker A: I'd be like, Start your own.
[00:07:20] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:07:20] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:07:20] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:07:21] Speaker B: Don't go down this road. I don't know where it's heading.
[00:07:24] Speaker A: Hashtag Flaccid.
[00:07:26] Speaker B: Oh, man. So was that your story about Ireland? It was nice.
[00:07:30] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:07:31] Speaker B: You literally told us this whole big thing to tell us, by the way, it's not that important because we have 23 other cities that we're sister cities with.
[00:07:39] Speaker A: I was shocked to see Mayor Bib in Ireland, so that threw me off, and I was like, Why?
[00:07:43] Speaker B: Well, it was a double, if you notice. It was the 20 year anniversary, most likely. And then it was also the launch of Air Lingus, which it sounds like they're doing more than flying. Yeah, it sounds like they're doing some crazy stuff.
[00:07:54] Speaker A: Some lingus.
[00:07:54] Speaker B: I'm excited for my flight.
[00:07:58] Speaker A: I will say this, though. I don't know why we have partnerships with 23 other cities around the world when you can't even drive in the Flats.
Some parts of Cleveland is like driving in a dried up riverbed. We could maybe start here first.
[00:08:12] Speaker B: Yeah. I feel like we're on the Oregon Trail.
[00:08:16] Speaker A: The Oregon Trail? Yeah, like, where your organs fall out.
[00:08:20] Speaker B: Oregon.
That's how you pronounce it. Not like most Ohioans. It's not oregon. It's Oregon.
[00:08:26] Speaker A: Oregon. But you said Oregon.
[00:08:28] Speaker B: No, Oregon. Oh, my gosh.
[00:08:32] Speaker A: So, yeah. Anyway, that's my story.
[00:08:33] Speaker B: All right, well, that was a good story. It's a good way to kick this off. Before we go any further, I just want to remind everybody there is officially one week left by the time this podcast comes out, it's actually only going to be about four days left to enter the Nick Chubb jersey. Giveaway that we're doing here. I did bring it this week.
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[00:09:33] Speaker A: What if you win the Nick Chubb jersey?
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So what does that take us to, Kenny?
The Burning River Rundown?
[00:10:54] Speaker A: The Cleveland Browns.
[00:10:56] Speaker B: We want to start this show on a somber note. The great Jim Brown passed away over the weekend. You mentioned it at the top of the show. He was known by so many as so many different things. Obviously a husband. He's going to be missed by Monique. Father, grandfather, multiple children, multiple grandchildren. He was an actor with 52 roles across film and television. He was a trailblazer in the industry and helped to expand the range of roles available to black actors. What's your favorite role of his?
[00:11:24] Speaker A: Do you have one? He was in shoot Dirty Dozen.
[00:11:31] Speaker B: He was in Dirty Dozen. That was a good one. That was good. And my personal favorite, Montezuma Monroe, defensive coordinator for the Miami Sharks in any given Sunday. I don't get strokes, motherfucker. I give them one of the best lines of the movie ever.
[00:11:45] Speaker A: Great Jim Brown.
[00:11:48] Speaker B: He was a leader. Sealy. Big Seal. You got a favorite Jim Brown role? No, he doesn't.
[00:11:55] Speaker A: He doesn't watch a lot of movies.
[00:11:57] Speaker B: Very nice take by the big seal.
Jim Brown was a leader. In 1968, he founded the Black Economic Union that helped support economic opportunities for minority owned businesses. In 1988, he founded the Amari Can Foundation, an organization that sought to divert gang members and prisoners from violence by teaching them life skills. Through that foundation, he helped establish the Watts truce between rival gangs in Los Angeles.
And all during this time, the FBI perceived Brown and other outspoken African American athletes as a threat. They monitored Jim Brown and his organizations. And then files declassified in 2003 showed that the FBI, the United States Secret Service, and several police departments had monitored Brown and the Beu, attempting to smear the group as a source of communist and radical Muslim extremism and collecting information to damage his reputation. So in the face of adversity, he continued to be an activist. He continued to be a leader. An activist is the next word I use to describe this man.
On top of the organizations that I just mentioned that he founded. He spoke out on racial issues throughout his career. As the civil rights movement was growing, he helped teach athletes that they have a voice and that that voice is powerful.
He was part of the Cleveland Summit, which is still known to this day as a significant turning point for the role of the athlete in society in one of the most important civil rights acts in sports history.
And even though he was widely criticized for it, he sat down with Donald Trump and Kanye West in 2018 to discuss the state of America at the time and stating in the face of all that criticism, we can't ignore that seat and just call names of the person sitting in it.
[00:13:43] Speaker A: It's interesting. Activists is one of those things I think gets overlooked at times with Jim Brown, especially just for sports fans, because you obviously know Jim Brown from the.
[00:13:56] Speaker B: Accolades, and we've got a lot of sports fans today that don't appreciate the activism part of the game or don't want to hear it.
[00:14:04] Speaker A: Well, right. And so I guess my point is, whether or not you like that or not, jim Brown kind of pioneered that voice for athletes. I mean, it's almost one of those things where you think about Jim Brown was a man before his time on the field.
Imagine if Jim Brown had a know. Guys like LeBron James that have that voice today in the public sphere were largely pioneered by Jim Brown. Being outspoken as he was and some other things.
[00:14:32] Speaker B: Jim Brown was known as a model. He posed in the September 1974 issue of Playgirl was one of the very few celebrities to allow full frontal nudities. Fun fact, in case anyone didn't know that.
[00:14:45] Speaker A: It's the only issue of Playgirl.
[00:14:46] Speaker B: I own that's OD man.
He was an analyst. He did color commentary for the NFL telecast on CBS in 1978. He was the first Black boxing announcer in 1965 and he was one of the first UFC color commentators in 1993 for the first six pay per views in the company's history. So aside from that, he was an owner, part owner of the New York Lizards Major League Lacrosse.
[00:15:15] Speaker A: I don't even know what that is.
[00:15:16] Speaker B: Yeah, part of an investment group that owns them.
[00:15:19] Speaker A: I guess it didn't pan out all the way.
[00:15:20] Speaker B: They're still going. He was an advisor from 2008 until his death. Jim served as an executive advisor to the Browns. He helped to build relationships with the team's players and further enhance the NFL's wide range of sponsored programs through the Team's Player Programs department. Yeah.
[00:15:36] Speaker A: And I would say that's one of the you think about the failure of the Browns over the last two decades, that was maybe the one thing they got right was bringing Jim Brown back into the fold. I know countless players have posted this week about just the impact he had on them and the things that he was able to kind of talk with them and lead them through, universally adjusting.
[00:15:58] Speaker B: To the game organization.
[00:15:59] Speaker A: But yeah, that was the one thing that they really got right, was having Jim Brown out there for the last ten years or so.
[00:16:06] Speaker B: Yeah. But most of the things I've listed so far are non football related. Aside from the advisor to the Browns, but he was also generally known as the Goat. And I'm not talking like best running back to ever play football.
Most publications and most people list him as the best football player of all time. So I'm going to run down a few of the accolades here. I know Kenny's got some of his career stats on deck. So first of all, he was a hall of Famer in college and the NFL. He was a Pro Bowler every year that he played in the NFL. When he retired, he was the record holder for career rushing with 12,312 yards rushing touchdowns with 106, total touchdowns with 126, and all purpose yards with 15,549. He was the first player with 100 rushing touchdowns and it's only been repeated a couple of times since then, which is all the more impressive because they played twelve games for the first half of his career and 14 games for the second half.
His 1863 yards in 1963 is still a Browns record. Again, only played 14 games that season.
[00:17:16] Speaker A: Yeah, that season he averaged a gaudy 6.4 yards per carry, which I'm pretty.
[00:17:22] Speaker B: Sure nobody has even come close to.
[00:17:25] Speaker A: I mean, if you've only rushed with the ball one time for 6.4 yards, that's who averages.
[00:17:29] Speaker B: Yeah. He was a three time MVP, the only NFL player to average over 100 yards per game throughout his career. He has the second most yards per carry ever. That was just recently passed in 2012 by Jamal Charles.
If he would have played longer or he would have played longer. If not for that bastard Art Model, may he continue to rot in hell, threatening to fine him for missing training camp to film The Dirty Dozen, which you previously mentioned.
[00:17:58] Speaker A: Yeah, that was the movie got fired for.
[00:18:00] Speaker B: So in case anyone doesn't know that story and you need more reason to hate Art Model, jim Brown at the height of his career, I mean, he was out there just balls to the wall, balls deep, just in life, just dominating Dirty Dozen. Filming, had some delays, and he was going to be late to training camp. And so Art Model came out and said, well, if you aren't going to be at training camp, I'm going to find you. And at the time, Jim Brown said, well, you only pay me to play games. You don't pay me to practice. So what are you going to find me? Art model continued to push the envelope there. Said he was going to I believe the number was like $1,200 a week or something, which is like, I don't know how many thousands of dollars in today's money, but Jim Brown basically said, all right, well, I'm retiring now.
[00:18:51] Speaker A: Which is just crazy because you have this guy that has changed your franchise and made you competitive for all these years, and clearly one of the greatest to ever do it. And you can't spare the guy a couple of weeks. I mean, to your point, his celebrity was never brighter than height. Jim Brown and frankly, acting paid way more than a lot of these guys made decent money in the NFL. But you make more money than the guy that's like working in the steel factory, but not that much.
[00:19:27] Speaker B: I'm not I don't know this for certain because I was not alive back then. I did not research this, but I can only assume that times have changed since then. And he probably because the color of his skin was getting paid, mean that's just that was just something that was normal. Not that it was right, but it was normal at the time.
[00:19:44] Speaker A: Well, you think the color barrier in the NFL wasn't broken until, I think, Kenny Washington in the late 1940s. So, I mean, you're not that far removed from them not being able to play in the league.
[00:19:55] Speaker B: Yeah. And so, as I mentioned before, multiple publications have named him the greatest football player of all time. And ESPN named him the greatest college football player of all time in 2020 as part of a ceremony to kick off the college football playoffs, which Ohio State won, by the way. But I digress this man, Jim Brown he literally did it all.
Do you have some of his numbers?
As if they weren't impressive enough, just the accolades that I read off. Do you have some more of his numbers here?
[00:20:24] Speaker A: I just think you covered the big ones. But I mean, it's just impressive to go back through and look at the year by year numbers because a lot of the times, as you mentioned, they were playing the first half, his career on twelve games, the second half of his career on 14 games. And these numbers are far and away. I mean, look, 1500 yards, 1300 yards, 1200 yards, 1400 yards, 1800 yards, 1400 yards. I mean, in twelve and 14 games.
[00:20:48] Speaker B: We talk about players today with 17 games. Those numbers you're like, oh, man, he had a really good season.
[00:20:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:55] Speaker B: Jim Brown did it in either three or five less games, depending on what season we're talking about.
[00:21:01] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, you think twice in his career he was at 17 touchdowns on the season. We mentioned the 6.4 yards per carry in 1963.
The other thing that I find interesting about Jim Brown's career, when you think comparatively across the rest of the NFL, is that during his tenure in the NFL, the hash marks were actually wider on the field.
And it wasn't until the early 1970s that they moved the hash marks in. So essentially, if you were on one side of the field, you have a true wide side of the field. If you're going to run the ball, you're only running one direction.
[00:21:38] Speaker B: I was going to say tell people what that does. So it makes it much harder on a running back because it takes away that short side of the field. You're hardly ever going to run.
[00:21:46] Speaker A: Yeah, you're not going to run there. So the entirety of Jim Brown's career was played with the wider hash marks.
[00:21:53] Speaker B: Yeah. That is something that's not talked about enough.
[00:21:55] Speaker A: No, because it changes the whole dynamic of the just. And Jim Brown was just one of those guys that he was built different in that yeah, I know that phrase.
[00:22:06] Speaker B: Gets thrown around in pop culture a lot.
[00:22:10] Speaker A: He was all the way athlete.
[00:22:12] Speaker B: And you know what my favorite thing about Jim Brown was? Like it or hate it, jim Brown was never, ever afraid to speak his mind.
[00:22:20] Speaker A: No.
[00:22:20] Speaker B: I mean, this is a guy that Franco Harris was getting ready to break his record, and Jim Brown threatened to come out of retirement because he's like, I'm not letting this guy break my record. One, the guy played for the Steelers, and two, Jim Brown was very outspoken about the fact that, oh, Franco Harris will run out of bounds to save his body. Like you don't do that. You fight for every yard. And famously, Jim Brown never ran out of bounds on his own power in his entire career. He was forced out several times, but he never just ran out of just just some wild stuff. I mean, the stories about this guy are just unreal.
[00:23:01] Speaker A: So there's a reason that he has a statue outside of Brown Stadium, I think, is to kind of sum this all up.
[00:23:07] Speaker B: Sorry. Franco Harris did beat him. There was a televised 40 yard dash when Franco Harris was 34 and just retired. And Jim Brown was 48 years old. He called him out and said, I think I'm faster than you. And they did a live 40 yard dash and Harris clocked in at 5.16 and Brown clocked in at 5.72. But he came up limp at the end.
He had a hamstring. He was 48 years old. Yeah, what would have been if he didn't pull that hamstring.
[00:23:39] Speaker A: But anyway but hey, at least he put his money where his mouth was.
[00:23:42] Speaker B: I mean, he literally just said whatever. He was like, you want to talk.
[00:23:45] Speaker A: Shit, let's go handle it. Like, you know, the unfortunate thing is there's obviously some background that's not so great with Jim Brown that often gets brought up. But I think right now it's just like when you lose somebody that's meant that much to your community and with all the goodies it has done, is it super relevant. Everybody has things in their past that they would have done differently.
[00:24:18] Speaker B: Not to minimize those things, but it's like you said, everybody has baggage. Everybody's done some things that they're not proud of.
[00:24:28] Speaker A: Yeah, even people that you haven't heard it with, maybe they just hit it better. It's one of those things where it's unfortunate when you have someone like that that passes and then all you hear are the bad things that happened when he was capable of and did so.
[00:24:45] Speaker B: Much more, which, well done, Cleveland. In really all of the sports world, I think we've done a good job of celebrating this man and all that he's accomplished and that he's done for not only black athletes, but just athletes in general.
I mean, this guy was a true trailblazer.
[00:25:02] Speaker A: And I think it'll be real interesting to see how the NFL handles this during the season because it's customary to wear a patch or a sticker or something for the team.
[00:25:14] Speaker B: Go ahead.
[00:25:15] Speaker A: But it'll be interesting because of the social issues and the impact there.
And as afraid as the NFL is to kind of play in that arena, whether they take someone who is off referred to as the greatest player in the history of your game and they do something like have everybody have 32 on the back of everybody's helmet this year, or if they kind of keep it at an arm's length and let the browns do what the browns are going to.
[00:25:47] Speaker B: Mean. Which kind of brings me to my next point here, is I'm curious what the Haslams I mean, I know you mentioned the NFL as a whole, but I'm curious what the Haslams have in mind to honor Jim Brown. And I know that they've come out already and they've said that they are going to do something significant and something permanent.
So I mean, what does that mean? Does that mean this is just me speculating? Is it going to be like helmet stickers will be permanently be on with his number? Are they going to retire his number? Is he going to get a statue? Is it going to be all of the above? What are your thoughts? What do you think?
[00:26:22] Speaker A: We'd like to see a patch like they did with Al for a while.
[00:26:25] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:26:25] Speaker A: I think that would be cool.
[00:26:26] Speaker B: Like on the top of the jersey?
[00:26:27] Speaker A: Yeah, just something that's there. I mean, it's forever. I mean, this is like Michael Jordan, right? Like, this is the greatest player that's ever played for your franchise. I just think they should get a different treatment.
[00:26:38] Speaker B: Well, and again, he's considered the goat.
[00:26:41] Speaker A: Of the entire sport.
[00:26:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:26:43] Speaker A: And I know that there's been actually a lot of conversations about that this week is like, what does a goat entail? But I mean, jeez, just look at this guy's body of work in less games than they play today.
[00:26:54] Speaker B: Just imagine he quit at the height of his game.
[00:26:59] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:26:59] Speaker B: Like Barry Sanders multiple years ahead of him, and he was just, you know, I'm done. And I say quit, but really forced.
[00:27:07] Speaker A: To retire by Art Model, it was.
[00:27:09] Speaker B: Partially forced to retire. And I think a lot of it was, what else did he have to accomplish? He did it all at that point. Like we were talking about, you got a shithead boss in Art model that's trying to force you to come to work that you're not being paid for, and you can go act and make more money. What are you going to do?
[00:27:27] Speaker A: When he clearly had other plans, because he did a ton of things after football.
[00:27:31] Speaker B: The acting led to more activism and more things as well.
[00:27:35] Speaker A: Right.
The other thing that I think would be cool with the news of the stadium being named Cleveland Brown Stadium again.
[00:27:43] Speaker B: What if it was Jim Brown Stadium?
[00:27:44] Speaker A: They were to do something like that? I know that that would be tough because there's a lot of marketing dollars out there to sell that to somebody else.
[00:27:50] Speaker B: They didn't have a name for a.
[00:27:53] Speaker A: Long time, but maybe they could name, like, the Field. Like, whoever buys it next could be, like, H R Block Stadium at Jim Brown Field or something.
[00:28:00] Speaker B: I'd be into that.
[00:28:01] Speaker A: Something that would just commemorate him on each forever.
[00:28:04] Speaker B: Depending on which way the TV is facing, you have it down on the bottom.
[00:28:08] Speaker A: Like, something like that, I think would be super cool.
[00:28:10] Speaker B: Yeah, that would be awesome. Big Seals, you got any thoughts on what they should do for Jim Brown?
[00:28:15] Speaker C: Yeah, those ideas are pretty super dope I like this?
Obviously, the stadium would be pretty cool, but like Kenny said, there's marketing dollars to be had.
[00:28:27] Speaker B: For sure. I think that would actually be the ultimate statement, is like, we named our stadium.
[00:28:33] Speaker A: Agreed. When you think about the way this city isn't necessarily fond of the haslams, that would go a long way as an olive branch.
[00:28:42] Speaker B: That would help. Jimmy, you.
[00:28:46] Speaker A: Tell tell corporate. Schmucks to suck it. We're calling this thing Jim Brown stadium and be done with it.
[00:28:51] Speaker B: Right. I'm in. I am in. That would be dope. I mean, I'm all for just about all of these ideas, though. I mean, anything that they do. One thing that do we have any statues out front of the stadium?
[00:29:01] Speaker A: Jim Brown?
[00:29:03] Speaker B: He's already there.
[00:29:03] Speaker A: Yeah, he's there. What they could do is they could just put that on the 50 yard line. The players have to run around it.
[00:29:08] Speaker B: They could just an on field obstacle. Jim brown was such a tank. He'll take anyone out.
[00:29:14] Speaker C: How's his number not retired already?
[00:29:15] Speaker B: That's what I want to know. He's probably in the ring of honor.
[00:29:18] Speaker A: He is in the ring of honor. Yeah. Maybe they'll rename the ring of honor after Jim Brown. Like the Jim brown ring of honor. That'd be pretty dope something.
[00:29:25] Speaker B: I'm all for the stadium. I think that's end all be all or whatever.
Nobody does that anymore.
[00:29:33] Speaker A: And a lot of people, just because they're the browns and he was Jim Brown, they just associate those things together like he is the know, despite Paul Brown all.
It's it's an awesome story. A great career, a great life well lived. We'll surely be missed by all.
[00:29:54] Speaker B: Absolutely. So we are going to move on. I would love to talk about Jim brown the entire episode, but we are going to move on here. In other browns news, the browns have traded some picks for zidarius smith this past.
I personally, I love this move. I think it's a much better version of what clowny has been the last few years. Clowny's kind of looked like a clown the last few years compared to what.
[00:30:20] Speaker A: Is this clown worst?
[00:30:22] Speaker B: Oh, man. In case anyone doesn't know, who is this clown? It's the most devastating, just diss of all times. Not only are you a clown, but you're not even a well known you're.
[00:30:30] Speaker A: Not even a well known clown.
[00:30:31] Speaker B: But anyways, yeah, I mean, I think it's a huge upgrade over clowny and I think him and Miles garrett can really wreak some havoc. But I know that you have some pause.
[00:30:41] Speaker A: No, it's not even my pause. I just have seen a couple of stories all of a sudden that are, like, questioning his temperament and that will they have similar issues that Judevion clowney had.
But I think as a player, this guy has all the right boxes checked. And I think when I first saw the news of this move, to me this was like slow season, slow free agency, period, slow draft. This was Andrew berry's moment to be we're we're in win now mode. Like, this was a win now move.
[00:31:14] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, it absolutely was because it's.
[00:31:16] Speaker A: A younger guy with multiple pro bowls under his belt.
[00:31:19] Speaker B: Well, and I will say was it was an Andrew barry move know, we didn't give up as much as you probably thought we were going to have to give up somehow. We still made it happen. Now it is. If I'm not mistaken, it's a rental, right?
[00:31:33] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know what they'll do with his contract because I think we'll have him.
Is he on expiring contract or is it option year? I can't remember.
But they only gave up two fists for it. And the thing is, if he comes in and has ten sacks this year, he'll get a contract easy.
[00:31:51] Speaker B: Plus the Browns are real fond of lately, just turning your entire salary into signing bonus and then we could play with whoever we want.
[00:31:58] Speaker A: True. There's no Brewer.
[00:32:00] Speaker B: We just make the haslams pay for everything.
[00:32:02] Speaker A: I think the nice thing that you now have is you have Darius and you have Aranquo from free agency to bookend the other side.
[00:32:13] Speaker B: Miles and I think what this does, too, is as far as some of our rookies that we have here, right. We drafted some guys on the line.
It allows them to our younger guys, it allows them to kind of learn.
[00:32:31] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:32:32] Speaker B: And give them some time.
[00:32:33] Speaker A: And I think it allows them to platoon because now you have two really solid Dan Maguire.
[00:32:39] Speaker B: That's who I was thinking about in.
[00:32:40] Speaker A: The game at any given time.
I think you alleviate some question marks there and you can kind of mix and match a little bit on the line and figure out what's going to work the best, because you brought in a number of guys in the offseason to solidify that front, but it'll take some tinkering to figure out who goes best with that combination of ends.
[00:33:00] Speaker B: Yeah. For mean, overall, I love this move. I don't know. Kenny, your final thoughts on this?
[00:33:06] Speaker A: No, I think it's a huge win now move. I love this move and I am super excited about having being here. And I don't know, I guess we'll have to keep an eye on this whole temperament things because this wasn't something that I was super well aware of when the move was made, but I've seen it now enough times that where there's smoke, there's fire. So I don't know if that's that's fair.
[00:33:31] Speaker B: I will say this. Juan Thornhill actually had a quote this past week on his Twitter. I don't know the exact quote. I'm not going to quote it, but you could throw the actual tweet up there did that to you.
He basically came out on his Twitter and he was like, I'm sick of the negativity. He's like, I don't care what you guys think, we're going to win and we're going to win right now.
[00:33:51] Speaker A: I've only been here three weeks and I'm already sick of the negativity.
[00:33:54] Speaker B: Yeah. So I really like Mean, this is a perfect example of it, too. It seems like every time, no matter how good a move looks to be somebody, one of the Cleveland analysts or whoever and sometimes even us, we try to find something negative, some way to shit on it. Yeah. So, I mean, I just like this move. I think it's a low risk move that could really pan out for us. What do you think? Big seal?
[00:34:18] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, I'd agree it's pretty low risk. He's on a contract year.
If he wants paid, he's going to have to put up some decent numbers.
[00:34:25] Speaker B: I was really hoping you were going to come in with just a dog.
[00:34:28] Speaker C: And he's got that dog in him for sure.
He's going to go good on passing situations. They're going to bring in that speed lineup or whatever the hell they call it.
[00:34:39] Speaker B: The only thing I'll say is Perry and Winfrey also has the dog in him and Jury is literally still out on him.
[00:34:47] Speaker A: That dog might be the jury is still out.
Yeah. No super excited about this move. I think this was one of the highlights of the season for Andrew Barry, for sure.
[00:34:56] Speaker B: Yep. Another rumor in the rumor mill right now. Ezekiel Elliott looking for a home, and apparently the Browns are one of two teams to have interest in him. What are your thoughts on this?
[00:35:10] Speaker A: I mean, I couldn't vomit any harder, like if I didn't, man, I agree.
[00:35:13] Speaker B: Look, I'm an Ohio State fan. I love Ezekiel Elliott. I loved him when he was at Ohio State. But I just what are we doing?
[00:35:22] Speaker A: It would just be a waste of money.
[00:35:23] Speaker C: Not a good fit.
[00:35:25] Speaker B: We don't have the money to pay him what he's probably demanding. And we have a stable of running backs that has a ton of potential in our young.
[00:35:34] Speaker A: You don't even need a stable because you got Nick Chubb.
[00:35:36] Speaker B: Well, yeah, I mean, he's full chubb.
[00:35:38] Speaker A: All the.
[00:35:41] Speaker B: Chubb. I'm full chub for Nick Chubb. I'm full chubb for Nick Chubb dog.
[00:35:47] Speaker A: So chubby right now.
[00:35:48] Speaker B: Oh, man, so much chubb.
But yeah, behind him you've got two young running backs. Why are we bringing in fat, slow Ezekiel Elliott who just likes to eat food?
[00:35:57] Speaker A: Yeah. And I just go back to Dallas the last couple of years. Like, how many times did they try to replace this guy?
[00:36:02] Speaker B: Several.
[00:36:03] Speaker A: Several.
[00:36:03] Speaker B: They landed on Tony Pollard.
[00:36:05] Speaker A: Finally got a guy we can get rid of.
[00:36:06] Speaker B: Tony Pollard's the guy that's probably not going to work out for you either. But that's neither here nor there. I digress. Yes.
Next up here, the offense worked out on the beaches of Puerto Rico this past week. Puerto Rico. Good team building activity, I guess. But I'm thinking this is more of an image management type thing from Deshaun Watson. I mean, what do you guys think?
[00:36:28] Speaker A: It's not that I'm tired of this, but this has become now a staple of every season where you go back.
[00:36:35] Speaker B: To like, I'm the quarterback. I'm taking everybody.
[00:36:37] Speaker A: Colt McCoy taking everybody down to Colt camp down in Texas. And at that time it was just receivers.
[00:36:42] Speaker B: Colt McCoy didn't make the money that deshaun didn't. So they just went to Texas. They went to colt's home. He's like, I'll bring you to my.
[00:36:48] Speaker A: It'S just the receivers, and you're flying economy, and you're paying for your, you know, look. Is it good team building?
[00:36:58] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:36:59] Speaker A: And I just think that it's just one of those things now that's almost become expected.
But when you have a guy like Deshaun on on your roster with the money that he makes, I mean, you'd kind of be a dick not to take your friends with you.
[00:37:09] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, you get the bag, you bring your friends.
[00:37:11] Speaker A: Yeah. It's just kind of a rule.
[00:37:12] Speaker B: Like, if you didn't take me somewhere.
[00:37:14] Speaker A: It'S like we wouldn't be friends anymore.
[00:37:15] Speaker B: I'd punch you right in the mouth.
I'll tell you what, though. The best thing that came out of this whole beach workout, this whole rocky three scene was amari Cooper is just getting absolutely shit on on social media for his workout attire. Did you guys see this?
[00:37:35] Speaker A: You don't like his style?
[00:37:36] Speaker B: No. Dude's in long pants, socks, and I think big seals pointed out a hoodie.
[00:37:44] Speaker A: Yeah, he's sweating it out.
[00:37:47] Speaker B: He's got socks on on the beach.
[00:37:48] Speaker A: You got to sweat it out, bro.
[00:37:50] Speaker B: He's the only one that's wearing that.
[00:37:53] Speaker C: He's a dog. He can wear whatever he wants.
[00:37:55] Speaker A: I'm just saying, he's acclimating himself to extreme conditions. Remember when David and Joku got hypothermia by halftime last year for going outside without a shirt on?
[00:38:02] Speaker B: I do remember that.
Don't be David and Joku. Don't be David. No, I'm just kidding. We love the chief. I saw Nick that was dope ass when he's just, like, negative ten. Look at me.
[00:38:16] Speaker A: JILLO'S blood started to thicken.
[00:38:18] Speaker B: Yeah, he was like, I can't move anymore.
[00:38:21] Speaker A: I did see Nick chubb out there in sweatpants, too, though, doing the ladder drill. He looked fast as hell.
[00:38:25] Speaker B: Well, I don't question anything Nick chubb does because I'm full chubb for Nick.
[00:38:28] Speaker A: Chubb, but I don't think he was wearing socks.
[00:38:30] Speaker B: Yeah, well, that's because only an idiot.
[00:38:32] Speaker A: He wasn't a shoebie.
[00:38:33] Speaker B: No offense, Amari Cooper, but only an idiot wears socks on the beach.
[00:38:37] Speaker A: Amari is a shoey. Can we make that shirt? Yeah, Amari's a shoe. Be squid.
[00:38:46] Speaker B: Hashtag squid.
All right, so the OTAs are starting this week. Don't know who's going to be there because the entire offense is down in Puerto Rico. I guess Miles Garrett and his buddies on the defense are getting the Snickel fritz up.
[00:38:58] Speaker A: If you're on that defense, do you look at miles like, come on, guy.
[00:39:02] Speaker B: Like, you're the highest paid player on our defense. You didn't take all of us to Puerto Rico.
[00:39:06] Speaker A: I mean, Puerto Rico is not even expensive, right? I feel like last year, didn't they go to the Bahamas or somewhere with like and didn't miles go and pay his own way? He's like, this sounds like freaking blast.
[00:39:17] Speaker B: I don't know. I just know, bad job out of Miles Garrett this year. I mean, what were you thinking not taking the defense? You should have said, I heard Deshaun Watson was going out of Puerto Rico, so we went with.
[00:39:27] Speaker A: Well, what Miles should have done was said, we're just going to go down to the hills of Tennessee and just lift logs.
[00:39:35] Speaker B: This is what real, why we're on defense. First of all, let me get started with the offense defense thing. I don't understand this. For lack of a better term here. Who decided it was a good idea to segregate the offense and the defense in football? I mean, you played football. You played football, seals, I played football.
[00:39:54] Speaker A: Luckily, I was bisexual. I played both ways.
[00:39:56] Speaker B: Yeah, we did play both ways. So we got the best of both worlds. But in general, the offense doesn't talk to the defense, especially when you get to the college level where you only play one position. They just didn't talk to each. They didn't mix.
[00:40:09] Speaker A: My inner monologue was a mess. Can't talk to you. Yeah, but I got an idea. No, wait till after the game.
[00:40:14] Speaker B: Yeah. It's just so weird. I don't know why they do that, but whatever.
We should just all be friends.
[00:40:23] Speaker A: F is for friends who do stuff together u is for you and me n is for anywhere at any time at all down in the deep blue.
[00:40:37] Speaker B: SpongeBob throwback oh, man.
[00:40:40] Speaker A: Who knew that was coming?
We cover a lot of ground on.
[00:40:44] Speaker B: The burning river sports gas we go anywhere and everywhere all right, so following the OTAs is going to be the mandatory minicamp. That's June 6 through the Eigth. So that should be fun.
[00:40:55] Speaker A: I guess so.
I just hope nobody gets hurt.
[00:40:59] Speaker B: Me, too.
[00:41:00] Speaker A: This time of year, that's the only thing that comes out really as bad news.
[00:41:03] Speaker B: Me, too.
We've won the offseason once again so far. This is about the time where things usually take a turn and we become the Browns. Yeah.
[00:41:11] Speaker A: Somebody's got an Achilles. Somebody's gotten a CL.
[00:41:14] Speaker B: Like a big name is going to happen.
[00:41:17] Speaker A: Yeah, I knocked on the wood. Knock on all the wood give yourself a little handy.
[00:41:21] Speaker B: Don't let that happen, either of those things.
No, but by the time the OTAs roll around and minicap rolls around, one thing that we will know.
[00:41:33] Speaker A: What's that?
[00:41:34] Speaker B: Who. The final two logos are from the logo competition for the Brown Dog logo that we're doing right now.
[00:41:42] Speaker A: Big seals, did you have a dog in this fight?
[00:41:46] Speaker C: I did, but I don't have the graph up, so I couldn't tell you which one it is.
[00:41:48] Speaker A: I can put it up here, but do you know which one it is?
[00:41:50] Speaker B: Just off top of your head? Like, do you know a distinguishing feature of it?
[00:41:54] Speaker C: It was forward facing. Looked like a bulldog or a mastiff, I guess, because that's what Swagger used to be.
[00:42:01] Speaker B: Which one is it?
[00:42:03] Speaker C: Bottom right?
[00:42:04] Speaker B: Yeah. You're with me? That's right. Outnumbered again.
[00:42:08] Speaker A: Two to one. Two to one.
[00:42:09] Speaker B: I think you should have to do something bad.
[00:42:11] Speaker C: Which one? Kenny said fu.
[00:42:13] Speaker B: He said top left. I said, that just looks like an updated version of that stupid dog pound. Let me see dog Powound or whatever that we did in the stand.
[00:42:22] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, that would probably be my second favorite one.
[00:42:26] Speaker A: To me, I just think because it's more Logoy, the busier a logo is, the harder it is to be.
Like, you should be able to roughly draw a logo.
[00:42:38] Speaker B: I mean, I agree. Burning River Sportscast Tap in Media, both great logos, both loved, both simple.
[00:42:44] Speaker A: Yeah, but that mastiff with the Memorial Bridge in it and a guitar pick and a stadium and State of Ohio and a football helmet in it's. Bullshit.
[00:42:56] Speaker B: I will tell you the stupidest logo I ever seen. It got a little heavy handed, but it's much better than some of those other ones on there. I mean, it looks the best out of those five. Yeah, that's what I liked about it. It looks mean without looking too mean.
[00:43:09] Speaker C: That it's not Martin, not that fucking sissy boy shit they had.
[00:43:13] Speaker A: This is a hot take, the go.
[00:43:16] Speaker C: Dog pound or whatever.
[00:43:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
Kenny is hashtag flaccid for our choice, though.
[00:43:22] Speaker A: So flaccid.
[00:43:24] Speaker B: But yeah. So this week on Wednesday, that's the 24th, May 24, which this episode of the podcast will be released on May 25. So by the time this comes out, they will have narrowed it down to two.
Let's remind everybody who we picked because I know we were talking to Celia about it, but you picked Dog Powandovum.
[00:43:44] Speaker A: This is the best logo. It's the simplest one to draw. It's the simplest one out of the designs.
[00:43:50] Speaker B: You just want to draw logos all.
[00:43:51] Speaker A: Day now and it looks the best.
[00:43:53] Speaker B: And this is what I picked. And this is going to be one of the final two.
So there's that.
What do you think? What do you think the final two are going to be, Kenny?
[00:44:04] Speaker A: I think it'll actually be that girl that is the yeah, I think she's a graphic designer.
[00:44:09] Speaker B: I agree.
[00:44:10] Speaker A: And according to you, like it, but.
[00:44:12] Speaker B: I think that's going to be and.
[00:44:13] Speaker A: According to you, my logo was a plant by the Brown staff. So I think that'll be in there as well.
[00:44:19] Speaker B: You know what's funny is I'm pulling hard for the one that I said and that Big Seals agrees with me is the best out of the five. But I actually agree with you. I think those are going to be the final two.
[00:44:30] Speaker A: Has to be.
[00:44:31] Speaker B: I just think it is because I stand by the fact that the one that you chose is a plant from the Browns and then that's why it's so good. And then what's her name is, the graphic designer. I mean, that thing went mean.
[00:44:44] Speaker A: Does it ultimately matter who made the logo, as long as it's don't I.
[00:44:50] Speaker B: Look, I don't hate the one that you picked. That would actually be probably my second favorite out of the five.
[00:44:55] Speaker A: Why can't we just pick the existing dog logo?
[00:44:57] Speaker B: Yeah, let's talk about that. This one. This is the freaking goat. Why did we mess with this? This is fantastic. Just make the orange. Orange.
[00:45:06] Speaker A: Orange all you have to do.
Everybody already knows it. It's a cool looking dog. It's just been around forever.
[00:45:13] Speaker B: It's literally sick, nasty, dope ass.
[00:45:16] Speaker A: Like, why would they not just why would you don't need to reinvent the wheel here.
[00:45:19] Speaker B: Just use what works. You know which one we're talking about? Seal. You need a graphic.
[00:45:23] Speaker C: I need a graphic.
[00:45:24] Speaker A: The actual browns logo bro.
[00:45:26] Speaker B: That bulldog that's been around forever.
[00:45:28] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, it's just not coming to my head right now for some reason.
[00:45:31] Speaker B: We have the weirdest booth guy. He's a Browns fan that doesn't know anything about the Browns.
[00:45:36] Speaker A: He's an audiovisual engineer.
[00:45:39] Speaker C: I need to see my visuals.
[00:45:41] Speaker B: We'll get that up for you. In the meantime, because I thought the.
[00:45:43] Speaker C: Most recent one was the no, but.
[00:45:45] Speaker A: Not the most recent one.
[00:45:46] Speaker B: That was the most recent dog pound. Guangang was the most recent one.
[00:45:50] Speaker A: I can't find, like, a still image of it. But here's the dog.
[00:45:53] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, that's fine. Too simple.
[00:45:56] Speaker A: I mean, why would you make that?
[00:45:57] Speaker B: That's the goat.
[00:45:58] Speaker A: Just make it oranger.
[00:45:59] Speaker B: We'll have a still image up here. They'll know what we're talking about. The people on the radio are going to be like, what the hell are they even saying?
[00:46:04] Speaker A: The original Browns Dog.
[00:46:05] Speaker B: This is, like, three minutes of just wasted time. If you're listening to the podcast audio version I'm not. Sorry. Anyways, let's move on. The Guardians are doing something that they call baseball. And are we confident these guys can stay afloat anymore?
[00:46:23] Speaker A: I mean, look, it's still early in the season, right?
[00:46:25] Speaker B: They do have 116 games left, I'll give you that.
[00:46:28] Speaker A: That's the only thing I can say. But man, the pitching injuries have hurt early on.
[00:46:34] Speaker B: Pitching injuries are there. The bats have been dismal. Pitching has let us down when the bats have come alive. Classe, this has close, but classe has blown more saves this year than he did all of last season. They're now six games under 500. At the time of this recording, they're 20 and 26.
[00:46:50] Speaker C: Just got swept by the Mets.
[00:46:52] Speaker B: Yeah, just got swept by the Mets.
[00:46:54] Speaker C: Frankie Lindor did it to us.
[00:46:55] Speaker B: Yeah, but we won that trade. If you look at the numbers, we won that trade. Let's not get into that. That's a whole discussion.
But I'm starting to get concerned. Even Tito's getting flak at this point.
[00:47:06] Speaker A: Yeah, it's hard to hear that because Tito has been so good in Cleveland. And look, like we said, still early. Tito will still find this Cabal club somewhere near 500 at the end of the year, regardless of how bad they end up being.
[00:47:18] Speaker B: Hey, you predicted they win over 100 games.
[00:47:20] Speaker A: That was because you forced me.
I think we are in danger, though, of maybe being overzealous coming into the season because of the magic that happened last year to where we overvalued this team and their skill set.
[00:47:35] Speaker B: Here's the deal. I just don't know that overall, I don't know if the Guardians have enough firepower to let too many more games slip through their fingers. I mean, they've by far, like it's not even close. They've lost the most games by one run in the MLB this year by, like, ten plus. Stupid.
[00:47:50] Speaker A: And I think they've only scored seven runs, like, twice.
[00:47:53] Speaker B: It's been bad. So I just don't know that they have the firepower to get back in the race. And they keep saying the bats are going to come alive. Well, we're still waiting. It's pretty warm now. It was 76 today.
[00:48:03] Speaker A: Finally warmed up here, so we'll see. But this team, if they're going to compete this year, they probably need a bat at the All Star break.
[00:48:10] Speaker B: You're probably right. Three things that save us, I think, and that give us reason to not officially panic yet. Number one. We're in the Al Central. The Al central is ass. There's literally entire divisions that are better than every team in ours.
[00:48:27] Speaker A: True, but the schedule changed this year, right? Where we play them less because you play the rest of the MLB more. Still, the significant part of your schedule, you play them less. So that was a bigger advantage last year than it is now.
[00:48:43] Speaker B: So that's number one. Number two, like we mentioned, we have 116 games left. That's a lot of games there. And finally, number three, even though he's getting flak, we have Tito.
As long as this guy's our coach, I'm pretty confident that we're going to find ourselves competitive in fighting for a playoff spot at the end of the year.
[00:49:00] Speaker A: It's one of those weird things, right? Like, if you're from New England and Bill Belichick is there, it's like, when does Bill we're out. As welcome.
[00:49:07] Speaker B: You're from New England and you know Tito well.
[00:49:10] Speaker A: True. But is there a moment that even after a guy delivers multiple Super Bowls that you're like, Bill's out, he's lost. Like, Tito hasn't even delivered multiple World Series, but I have ultimate faith in this guy.
[00:49:26] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:49:26] Speaker A: And I don't think there's anybody better in baseball that you could bring in to coach this team.
[00:49:29] Speaker B: No, I agree.
Totally agree.
[00:49:33] Speaker A: But maybe I'm blinded by that at.
[00:49:34] Speaker B: Times because what do you think? Big seal. They getting back into this thing.
[00:49:38] Speaker C: I mean, all up to the mean pitching. You got Mackenzie coming back soon. I think Savale is coming back soon, so that'll help buffer the you know who they need.
I mean, they need a catcher.
[00:49:50] Speaker B: No? Well, they got Bo Nailer coming up, so that'll be fun. Bro high.
[00:49:54] Speaker C: No, they just sent him back down already.
[00:49:56] Speaker B: Oh, it was over.
[00:49:56] Speaker C: Brought him up for the double header. That lasted a long time, I don't think.
[00:50:00] Speaker B: No. You know who they need?
[00:50:01] Speaker A: Nick Swisher.
[00:50:03] Speaker B: Close. Nick Chubb.
[00:50:05] Speaker A: Nick Chubb.
[00:50:06] Speaker B: Batman. They need the Batman.
[00:50:08] Speaker A: Bo Jackson. It.
[00:50:09] Speaker B: They need the Batman.
[00:50:13] Speaker A: I stepped on Nick Chubb.
[00:50:15] Speaker B: They need the Batman. Nick chubb. And then all their problems will be solved.
[00:50:19] Speaker A: I would love that.
[00:50:21] Speaker B: I'm full chubb for Nick Chubb.
[00:50:22] Speaker A: Always.
[00:50:24] Speaker B: Next up here, the cavaliers are sitting at home watching these wild playoffs unfold. That's the news I got for them.
[00:50:32] Speaker C: Yeah. Not much to say there, Jim.
[00:50:34] Speaker B: No, we're all super disappointed, but it's a good segue because we're actually going to get into some non Cleveland news here. And before we get to the NBA playoffs, carmelo Anthony officially retires after 19 seasons, which is pretty freaking wild because if you guys are thinking about it, I mean, we were pretty young when, like, LeBron, Carmelo were drafted, all those guys, and, I mean, basically all that's left is LeBron. Now. Chris, Paul and LeBron. Right. That's the only ones left.
[00:51:03] Speaker A: And Chris Paul hasn't had nearly the success that LeBron has had.
[00:51:06] Speaker B: He's had a lot, but not the success of LeBron.
[00:51:08] Speaker A: Well, he hasn't won championships.
[00:51:09] Speaker B: Right. I agree. Yeah. He hasn't won mean I think there's.
[00:51:14] Speaker A: Pretty firm in LeBron's direction there.
[00:51:17] Speaker B: Yeah. No, I agree. But yeah, it's just weird that it's about to be the official end of an era here soon. I mean, basically as soon as LeBron goes, it's over.
[00:51:28] Speaker A: I mean, as long as LeBron keeps playing great.
Yeah. The way that dude takes care of his body, I don't know.
[00:51:35] Speaker B: The problem is you are finally starting to see, like, a decent drop off from years. I mean, he averaged a lot of points this year.
[00:51:42] Speaker A: Tom Brady played till he was 45 and people hit him.
[00:51:46] Speaker B: Tom Brady. Brady. Tom Brady also was plastic, so let's not talk about that, Kendall. But, yeah, back to the NBA playoffs. The Nuggets and heat are both up 30 on the Lakers and celtics, respectively.
[00:52:00] Speaker A: Who saw that coming?
[00:52:01] Speaker B: I don't know. But barring some sort of miraculous comeback, that's who we're going to see in the NBA finals.
[00:52:06] Speaker A: It's going to be the least watched.
[00:52:07] Speaker B: Nuggets of all the Heat. I disagree with you. It's actually going to be really entertaining.
In case anyone forgets this, this is the incident. Was it this season or last season? I know big Seals Falls basketball a little bit more than me. Was it this season or last season between the Nuggets?
[00:52:25] Speaker C: It's not coming to mind.
[00:52:26] Speaker B: He doesn't know. But anyways, there was an incident between these two teams where Jokic got fouled pretty hard at half court. Marquis Morris fouled him at half court.
[00:52:36] Speaker C: I do remember that now.
[00:52:37] Speaker B: And then he ran up behind him and just body checked him and if you ain't seen Nicola Jokic, dude's massive. He's like the biggest guy alive.
[00:52:46] Speaker C: He's a solid boy.
[00:52:47] Speaker A: I don't dispute that. But when the I'm not done.
[00:52:49] Speaker B: Okay. He gave marquis Morris whiplash and he was out for like a quarter of the season after that. And Jimmy Butler was about as pissed as I've ever seen jimmy Butler. Like he was stomping around the court ready to just whoop some ass. And Jimmy Butler is a scary dude. I would not want to fight mean I wouldn't want to go up against so I think there's going to be fireworks in this thing. I think it's going to be exciting.
[00:53:14] Speaker A: All right, so you have bad blood, which agree is entertaining but you're talking about the opportunity to have would have had if these teams didn't lose Lakers and celtics in the finals.
[00:53:29] Speaker B: Oh, I agree. That probably makes for better TV. I'm just saying don't discount this matchup. I think it's I don't like the.
[00:53:35] Speaker A: Lakers or the Celtics but people around the country do.
[00:53:38] Speaker B: No, I mean I agree with you. Laker Celtics would have been epic huge. But I'm just saying this is still going to be a good finals. I think it'll be well watched.
[00:53:46] Speaker A: Plus I have enjoyed watching the Heat put it on the shelf.
[00:53:49] Speaker B: Jimmy Butler is him dog. He is a dog butler. Yeah, like I just watched this guy and I'm in know everybody likes to talk about kobe rip and him being like modern day Michael Jordan. No, Jimmy Butler when he gets into the playoffs, at least he is millennial.
[00:54:12] Speaker A: Michael Jordan and he's one of those guys that takes a lot of shit too because he hasn't had as much success I think as people expected him to have. But he's been on some shit teams. But he has been on some shit teams. But yeah. Impressive.
[00:54:24] Speaker C: Do you guys know the rumors about.
[00:54:25] Speaker B: Jimmy Butler that he's Michael Jordan's son?
[00:54:28] Speaker A: Could be, yeah.
[00:54:30] Speaker B: Have you heard these rabbit hole goes?
[00:54:34] Speaker C: I actually just saw TikTok today. I think Jimmy was born in Houston or somewhere in Texas and if you.
[00:54:39] Speaker B: Rewind nine to ten months, that's where Michael Jordan was playing at the time.
Pretty wild. There's a lot of pictures side by side. They look very similar.
[00:54:47] Speaker C: They definitely do look very similar.
I don't know, jimmy Butler doesn't know his father real well or at all.
[00:54:56] Speaker B: Bro, the internet is a wild thing.
[00:54:59] Speaker A: It could happen illuminati shit you get.
[00:55:01] Speaker B: Yeah, let's not get into mean this could take all day if we talk about this. But yeah, I mean I've been super impressed with Jimmy Butler. It's been awesome to watch the heat play and I mean they're just what.
[00:55:13] Speaker C: He'S doing with that team?
[00:55:14] Speaker B: Yeah, they're not just beating teams either.
[00:55:16] Speaker C: They're like bam.
[00:55:17] Speaker B: They're just shitting on teams.
[00:55:18] Speaker A: And I would say if I have any rooting interest at all, it's not that I like Miami heat but hey, Caleb. Go get that.
[00:55:26] Speaker B: In. The best part about that is the Cavs got rid of him. They just let him walk. Right.
[00:55:31] Speaker A: And he's contributed.
[00:55:32] Speaker B: He signed with the heat. He played like one or two games coming off the bench. And they're like, this guy's leadership is just I mean, it's worth way more than what we're actually paying this guy. And they're like, we need to get him on the floor. So they made him a starter. And since he's been a starter, this team took off.
[00:55:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:55:49] Speaker C: You mean we couldn't have used his leadership in the playoffs?
[00:55:51] Speaker A: Apparently not.
[00:55:52] Speaker B: Apparently not.
[00:55:55] Speaker A: The guy who's been to how many finals, playing alongside some of the best in the world, you can't find a way to use them.
[00:56:01] Speaker B: No spot for him. Yeah, I don't know. But yeah, I'm with you. I'm rooting for the heat. I want K Love to get another ring. And I want Jimmy Butler.
I hope he just straight takes it to the Nuggets because I don't really for whatever reason.
[00:56:16] Speaker A: Jimmy Butler takes it straight to the Nuggets.
I'm lighting.
[00:56:26] Speaker C: He's going to pass out. Man down.
[00:56:28] Speaker A: Bear down. Bear down. Bear down.
[00:56:32] Speaker B: Taking out of context, I could see where that sounded crazy, but anyway, we got to get back on track. We're off the rails here. Yeah. I want Jimmy Butler to get a ring, and I hope he just destroys the Nuggets because I don't like Nikola Jokic. I just think he comes off as smug. His brothers are super annoying, always trying to fight people in the just I'm kind of over that.
[00:56:58] Speaker A: Um, yeah. I also like Jimmy Butler because the name kind of sounds like Jimmy Butthole.
[00:57:04] Speaker B: Well, there's that so strong words from.
[00:57:07] Speaker C: A strong great analysis. Great analysis.
[00:57:10] Speaker B: Incredible.
Here it is, though. The fact that these teams are going to be in the Finals just highlights what we were saying all season long. The NBA was absolutely wide open, and the Cavs missed a golden opportunity to.
[00:57:24] Speaker A: Just I mean, that's what is run.
[00:57:26] Speaker B: Through this league and get a championship.
[00:57:28] Speaker A: So frustrating is because if this Cavs team could have done anything in the playoffs, man, this could have been a year to just shock everyone.
[00:57:35] Speaker B: Yeah. And I don't know if anybody's following closely the like since the season ended, but I mean, it doesn't look good. Donovan Mitchell has been spotted golfing with the New York Knicks.
[00:57:44] Speaker A: He's basically a New York knick already.
[00:57:47] Speaker B: It's pretty crazy, the writings on the wall. He's leaving after his contract's up and he's going to New York.
[00:57:54] Speaker A: And because there's nothing they can do to build around him at this point, I mean, they're depleted. So unless you're going to part ways.
[00:57:59] Speaker B: With you were all in on him.
[00:58:01] Speaker A: Darius Garland if he does end up.
[00:58:04] Speaker B: With New York, I'm telling you, there are going to be these discussions on what happened with that playoff series because he was straight ass.
[00:58:13] Speaker A: He wasn't good, and it's very disappointing, but yet we said it all year long that this NBA didn't have a favorite. For all intents and purposes, this was wide open. This team had a great season and was playing their backs off, and to have it end like it did and then end up with this finals where you these are these are both teams that are beatable.
[00:58:40] Speaker B: Yep. I totally agree. It's a hard pill to swallow, but moving on here, we got to get through the burning river rundown.
Brooks Kepka wins the PGA championship in his fifth major. A live golfer finally gets a major, and the battle rages on.
[00:58:57] Speaker A: I love it.
[00:58:57] Speaker B: Yeah, I love it, too. I just like this whole live golf versus PGA tour.
[00:59:04] Speaker A: The PGA has become such old guard that they needed disrupted, and it's in a good way, and all of a sudden, it's funny. You see the PGA kind of firing back on social media a lot because they're talking about, oh, Rory won x amount of dollars finishing in the top five of this tournament. And there was some guy that played, I think, in the PGA championship that was a golf pro that made a quarter million dollars or something, and they were blowing it all up on social one. That was dope. Yeah, but I've seen so many of those posts where they're like, they're bragging on the money these guys are making on tour now, and it's like it's still pennies compared to what the live golf guys were making. And, yeah, I'd love to see this continue to buffer between these two because weird flex peasants. Yeah.
[00:59:50] Speaker B: And then finally in the burning river rundown. Did you hear the story that came out about Urban Meyer from when he was at Ohio State?
[00:59:57] Speaker A: Yeah. So, apparently, our budy Urban was not a huge Joey B fan and said watching film with him, that he was no better than a d two quarterback at his very best, and then at practice told him that he throws like a girl.
[01:00:12] Speaker B: Safe to say, Urban Meyer was not impressed.
[01:00:14] Speaker A: Not impressed at all. So, look, I still got love for Urban. He did a ton of good things at Ohio State and know they're all into the deal on the way out, but it just makes you wonder, like, a guy like Urban that has seen so much football, so talented, so smart, how do you misjudge that one so incredibly poorly?
[01:00:36] Speaker B: I don't know, man. I agree with and since his spectacular flame out that he had with the Jaguars, here where everything came to a head.
[01:00:50] Speaker A: Sorry, I thought you're going innuendo because of the girl in his bar.
[01:00:54] Speaker B: Everything came to a head. I get it. Good one. No, but everything came just completely crashing down for that guy.
This is just piling on. You told Joey B that he throws like a girl and he's a d two quarterback.
I have some love for urban Meyer, too, because what he did at Ohio State but it makes you wonder how much of that was Ohio State's culture and how much of that was Urban Meyer.
[01:01:20] Speaker A: True.
And you just wonder, too. It's not like we had bad quarterbacks during that time. But it makes you wonder, could you have gone back to back if Joey B. Was if he hadn't buried him on the death?
[01:01:30] Speaker B: Clearly, clearly it was a concerted effort to bury him on.
[01:01:33] Speaker A: Yeah. Because he thought he looked at a so.
[01:01:36] Speaker B: But, yeah, like I said, just another negative on Urban Meyer since his demise. So don't think we'll be hearing much from that guy anytime soon. New which takes us to the end of the Burning River Rundown and on to the Burning River sports, guys. Hot take.
[01:01:52] Speaker A: Allah.
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[01:03:07] Speaker A: My hair looks so blonde.
[01:03:10] Speaker B: All right, what do we got? The second half of the show today. Like I said, we're going off script here. Oh, you know what happened this week? I do know what we're talking about. The second half of the show.
[01:03:19] Speaker A: That schedule game.
All right. Yes. We did have the super exciting two hour phenomenon that was the NFL schedule release since we last talked to Y'all. So we have to do our obligatory schedule game because obviously in May.
[01:03:52] Speaker B: Listen, before we get started, I think this is the most asinine thing.
[01:03:56] Speaker A: I agree with you, but you have to do it.
[01:03:59] Speaker B: Yeah, because we're a Cleveland sports talk show.
[01:04:02] Speaker A: It's like a coming of age thing.
[01:04:04] Speaker B: We're not a talk show. We're a podcast. We're a Cleveland sports podcast.
[01:04:07] Speaker A: We're a talk pod.
[01:04:08] Speaker B: And that's what you do. Like, you talk about the schedule when it gets released.
[01:04:12] Speaker A: We're a pod show.
[01:04:13] Speaker B: You know what's weird is the schedule release is like, the Super Bowl for teams, social media turned the best one, the Tennessee Titans. I know everybody saw it, but the Tennessee Titans one was rock solid. I just like the music. Every time they announced a game, the Boston Bearcats and they do the game noise.
[01:04:38] Speaker A: Yeah, they really rocked out.
[01:04:42] Speaker B: Yeah, it was out there.
[01:04:43] Speaker A: They really did that to them.
Anyway, without further ado, the schedule game, we have to play the burning room sports guest the schedule game.
[01:04:52] Speaker B: Our version is much shorter.
[01:04:54] Speaker A: Yeah, we'll keep this short because we know everybody's probably already done this, but we want to make sure that we are on the record because everybody knows that in May you can accurately pick and it's going to win every game an NFL schedule with some sort of accuracy.
First up, we have Cleveland Browns on September 10, my birthday on Ronnie red eye. Ronnie Gems's birthday. Taking on the Cincinnati Bungholes at home.
[01:05:21] Speaker B: I will be full Chubb for Nick Chubb on my birthday.
[01:05:24] Speaker A: 01:00 start. What happens?
[01:05:28] Speaker B: I'm going to get a birthday present and we're going to get a win. I got him winning. We don't win first game usually, but fuck it, I'm going with it.
[01:05:37] Speaker A: Wow.
[01:05:38] Speaker B: One and o for the Browns.
[01:05:40] Speaker A: You marked this thing explicit, right? Because we've been all over the place today.
[01:05:44] Speaker B: Yeah, good luck editing this thing.
[01:05:48] Speaker A: Look, Cincinnati, I think, has started slow last year or two under Joey B. But that being said, I think they come into the season hotter. So I'm going a loss here just because we tend to lose home openers.
[01:06:04] Speaker B: That's fair. Big Seals.
[01:06:06] Speaker C: I'm going with the dub. There Jim.
[01:06:08] Speaker B: Oh, he's giving us a dub, too.
[01:06:09] Speaker C: Getting the monkey off our know.
[01:06:11] Speaker B: Okay, I am already feeling scared.
[01:06:14] Speaker C: We own Joe Burrow.
[01:06:15] Speaker B: I'm already feeling scared that so far, big Seals and I agree on everything.
[01:06:21] Speaker C: We own Joe Burrow.
[01:06:22] Speaker A: Your guys'records are going to be the exact same at the end. Not good. So there we go. After the Cincinnati game, we head to primetime on ABC against the Pittsburgh Steelers for an 815 start on Monday night Football in Pittsburgh. Ronnie, who you got?
[01:06:39] Speaker B: Oh, man.
The browns.
I'm already feeling like I'm not going to be right here, but I'm going with the Browns.
[01:06:48] Speaker A: You got the Browns starting two and I do.
[01:06:51] Speaker B: And everybody's going to be talking about how Deshaun Watson is the best thing that's ever happened to the Browns.
[01:06:56] Speaker C: Sealy, dub.
[01:06:58] Speaker B: Oh, God.
[01:06:59] Speaker C: Fuck the steelers.
And Kenny Pickett's. Small ass hands. Fuck him.
[01:07:05] Speaker B: Whoa. This got real explicit.
[01:07:08] Speaker C: Easy dub. I'm gonna go easy dub.
[01:07:10] Speaker B: Easy dub.
[01:07:12] Speaker A: I'm gonna go with brown. Still floundering to find an identity early in the season. It's Monday night. All the bright lights are on everyone.
[01:07:19] Speaker B: And we don't farewell in primetime. Typically.
[01:07:22] Speaker A: I'm going to go with the Browns loss in that one, but I think it'll be a close game.
[01:07:26] Speaker B: At least you gave us a close game.
[01:07:28] Speaker A: So from there we head man we.
[01:07:30] Speaker B: Have back to Cleveland is starting vastly different for us. In case anyone wants to recall this, I did win King of the north last year.
[01:07:38] Speaker A: I did accurately predict the Browns record to the number fair.
[01:07:41] Speaker B: I guess I shouldn't go there, but I digress. Third game.
[01:07:45] Speaker A: Third game. Went back to Cleveland. Back home on September 24 at 01:00 to take on your Tennessee Titans.
I don't know why they're your Titans.
[01:07:54] Speaker B: But I don't know either.
[01:07:55] Speaker A: How do you feel?
[01:07:56] Speaker B: I do love Nashville, but I don't know why they're mine.
[01:07:59] Speaker A: Who wins and who loses? Whoever wins doesn't lose.
[01:08:02] Speaker B: I'm realizing that I must have made a mistake in the first two games because I've got the Browns beating the Titans. Well, the Titans I mean, they're going to start a rookie quarterback most, right?
Didn't they get rid of are they letting Henry walk or did they already let Henry walk?
[01:08:16] Speaker C: No, he's still squad.
[01:08:17] Speaker B: He's going to walk.
[01:08:20] Speaker A: If he walks. They won't win many games because he's better when he needs to run.
[01:08:23] Speaker B: Yeah, good joke. Guys, I hate you.
Listen, we're all dead. Win or lose.
They're going to win. Three and three and give it to me again, baby.
[01:08:36] Speaker A: Three and let's go. Let's go.
[01:08:40] Speaker B: I'm going to be so full chubb if the Browns start three and I'll.
[01:08:43] Speaker C: Be rock hard if we're three and o. Rock hard.
[01:08:46] Speaker A: That's the next shirt ends the show collection.
[01:08:50] Speaker B: Rock hard. I'm making it tonight.
[01:08:53] Speaker C: I want that on my dust.
[01:08:54] Speaker A: Home game weather's good. Tennessee's a mess. I'm going. Browns pick up their first win of the year.
[01:08:59] Speaker B: Finally, the Browns have picked up a.
[01:09:03] Speaker A: Win and from there the Browns get to stay at home, but take on another divisional foe. On October 1 at 01:00, the Baltimore Stinking. Ravens come to town. Oh, no.
[01:09:16] Speaker B: Listen, you want to know a fun fact? Last time I was at a Ravens game at Cleveland Brown Stadium, the Ravens blocked a field goal and raina back for a touchdown to win it. And I think they do it again.
[01:09:27] Speaker C: I was there sitting right next to you, Jim.
[01:09:29] Speaker B: You were? I've got us losing.
[01:09:31] Speaker C: Yeah, me too.
[01:09:33] Speaker A: Ronnie lost seals loss.
[01:09:35] Speaker B: Why are you picking the same as me?
[01:09:38] Speaker C: Just how I feel, bro.
[01:09:42] Speaker A: Lamar Jackson is going to throw for 6000 yards this year, so he's going to have to come out hot early on before the weather turns.
[01:09:48] Speaker B: If you're throwing for 6000, you got to have at least, like I think.
[01:09:53] Speaker A: He throws for at least 800 yards against the Browns. And that's a big L for us from Kenny Thunder. So from there we get kind of screwed by the ODS makers here, the Hunger Games game makers here, because we get a bye week, so we can't lose.
[01:10:09] Speaker B: I hate early bye. It's never good for anybody.
[01:10:11] Speaker A: Early bye week is never good. And to start the season, you have just a brutal start with Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, all division games in your first four weeks, I just realized.
But Ronnie has them starting three and O.
Give it to me again.
[01:10:26] Speaker B: Hey. They lost to Baltimore. It's three and one now.
[01:10:29] Speaker A: So coming back from the by week, we do get our friends the San Francisco 49 ers at home at 01:00 on Sunday, October 15. And Ronnie, who wins that game, they.
[01:10:40] Speaker B: Know who their quarterback is yet?
[01:10:42] Speaker A: They said it's going to be Brock Purdy if he's healthy.
[01:10:45] Speaker B: I think mr. Irrelevant comes back down to earth, but that defense is damn good. So actually, I'm going to go with us losing in a close one.
Yeah, we'll be three and two after this.
[01:10:56] Speaker A: Big Seals. Yep.
[01:10:58] Speaker B: Damn it.
[01:10:59] Speaker C: Three and three train. Depends on who the quarterback is picking.
[01:11:04] Speaker B: The same as me if Trey Lance.
[01:11:06] Speaker C: Comes out and balls out the know, three, four, five weeks, I'd like to.
[01:11:09] Speaker B: State for the record, I've picked first every time.
[01:11:12] Speaker C: Well, let me go first this time.
[01:11:15] Speaker B: Look, Trey, ladies first. Seals.
[01:11:22] Speaker A: Trey Lance, sam darnold Brock. Purdy. Doesn't matter. San Francisco takes this game.
So this is not a good start for the Browns that I have.
[01:11:31] Speaker B: You have one in four.
[01:11:33] Speaker A: One and four to start.
[01:11:35] Speaker B: Listen, I've never met a bigger pessimist when it comes to the Browns than Kenny.
[01:11:40] Speaker C: Feel like at that point Stefan needs fired.
[01:11:41] Speaker A: I just think it's a tough start to the Kenny's.
[01:11:43] Speaker B: That's what Kenny's angling for.
[01:11:45] Speaker A: I'm not angling for him.
[01:11:46] Speaker B: Stefanik will be fired by week six.
[01:11:49] Speaker A: I'm just telling you, San Francisco is pretty good.
[01:11:51] Speaker B: Moving on.
[01:11:52] Speaker A: When did they play their last game this year?
[01:11:54] Speaker B: Moving on.
[01:11:55] Speaker A: Okay, from there we go.
[01:11:58] Speaker B: Two. I accidentally keep playing footsie with you. It's getting weird.
[01:12:01] Speaker A: Lucas Oil Dome in Indianapolis, Indiana on Sunday, October 22 at 01:00 p.m on CBS. Ronnie, who do you got?
[01:12:09] Speaker C: I thought I was first this time.
[01:12:11] Speaker A: Big seals. Who you got?
[01:12:13] Speaker C: Browns Dub.
[01:12:16] Speaker A: Browns Dub against the Colts.
[01:12:18] Speaker B: I've got a browns.
[01:12:19] Speaker C: I just got JT.
[01:12:20] Speaker B: Yeah, I've got a Browns Dub.
[01:12:22] Speaker A: We'll keep this one short and simple. I got Browns Dub as well because the Colts, I think, are still trying to find a quarterback and we'll see what happens. I agree.
From there, we stay on the road to the Pacific Northwest to take on the Seattle Seahawks in a 405 start just before Halloween on October 29.
[01:12:45] Speaker B: They've got Gino Smith just doing big things out there and now they got Jackson Smith and Jigba, who I think is going to be one of the biggest surprises. I know everybody knows he's good, but I don't think they know how good he is. So I actually have the Seahawks winning this one.
[01:13:00] Speaker A: Gino, two and Jigba, another 800 yard game by the quarterback.
Browns, unfortunately, lose that one as well. Big seals.
[01:13:08] Speaker B: Browns.
[01:13:08] Speaker C: Dub NFL is going nice. NFL is going to write back to Gino finally he comes back down.
[01:13:15] Speaker B: I agree. He comes back down to earth this year, though, I will give you that. But they've got too many weapons on offense, man.
[01:13:20] Speaker A: I think Gino's the real deal out there, man.
[01:13:22] Speaker C: We got a good secondary, bro.
[01:13:24] Speaker B: It just took just I think he's.
[01:13:25] Speaker A: Finally in the right place.
[01:13:26] Speaker B: Threw him to the wolves early and he couldn't make it, but now he's got some time. He's a savvy veteran.
[01:13:32] Speaker A: And you think about that's, how quarterbacking used to be, right? You'd draft a young guy, put him on your bench for two or three years, let him watch. Like Gino was put in a tough situation on a bad team and just flamed out. And now he's in a good situation on a better team. So sky's the limit, I think, for that guy.
From there. Our road trip ends as we return home to take on the Arizona Cardinals on November 5 at 01:00 p.m. On CBS.
[01:13:57] Speaker B: This team is ass. We're winning this game.
[01:13:59] Speaker A: Easy, claps, easy. What about Kyler Murray?
[01:14:04] Speaker C: He's trash, didn't he?
[01:14:06] Speaker A: Tires.
[01:14:06] Speaker C: ACL, too, isn't he? Coming back from he's literally the worst.
[01:14:09] Speaker B: Quarterback that's ever been. Paid the most money.
[01:14:13] Speaker A: But he's not all terrible.
[01:14:15] Speaker B: He's shorter than you.
[01:14:16] Speaker A: Thank you.
Big seals. You got the dub there? Yes, sir, I got a dub as well.
[01:14:22] Speaker B: You're giving me shit and you just got a dub here? I say they win by three touchdowns. Three touchdowns.
[01:14:29] Speaker A: Big man, small balls.
[01:14:32] Speaker B: Not true.
[01:14:33] Speaker A: Small man, big balls.
From the shores of Lake Erie, we'll take a short puddle jumper back to our friends in Baltimore to take on the Ravens on November twelveTH at 01:00 on Fox. The weather starting to get a little cold.
[01:14:49] Speaker B: I think we lose to Baltimore again. Wait, how many games in are we? Nine at this. This will be the 9th game.
[01:14:56] Speaker A: This is week ten. So yeah, nine games in.
[01:15:01] Speaker B: I'm going to go with the Browns winning this. You know why? Lamar Jackson will be hurt by this time.
[01:15:06] Speaker C: Lamar Jackson may be hurt, exactly.
[01:15:08] Speaker B: Yep.
[01:15:09] Speaker A: I'm actually going to go W here as well, because I think this might end up being a weather game early in November that they may have to run the ball with Nick Chubb. Okay, I've heard that before.
And if you run Nick Chubb 25 times a game, you win. So I'm going w from Baltimore.
[01:15:32] Speaker C: Wait.
[01:15:32] Speaker B: We didn't get seals. What seals do.
[01:15:33] Speaker A: Yeah, he said we're going to win.
[01:15:34] Speaker C: We'Re going to split the season series.
[01:15:36] Speaker A: Oh, he said we're losing?
[01:15:37] Speaker C: No, I had him losing the first one.
[01:15:39] Speaker A: Oh, you lost the first one?
[01:15:40] Speaker C: Yeah, lost first one, win second one.
[01:15:42] Speaker A: Excellent. All right, from there, we pack up and head back home to take on the Pittsburgh Steelers at 01:00 on November 19 on CBS.
[01:15:53] Speaker B: I think picket to pickens gets us. We lose this one.
[01:15:56] Speaker A: You think picket to pickets gets us? Gets you again? Seals.
[01:16:01] Speaker B: Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, Yang. Fool me again.
[01:16:04] Speaker C: Yeah, I think we split the series there, too.
[01:16:07] Speaker B: Why?
[01:16:12] Speaker A: This is a tough one. Because you're at home loud. Give the Browns a w this week.
[01:16:18] Speaker B: Very nice.
[01:16:20] Speaker A: And then from there, we take a short road trip out to the Mile High City on November 26 against the Denver Broncos. At. How do they fare in the thin air, bro?
[01:16:32] Speaker B: Russell Wilson washed. He's washed. It wasn't a fluke last year. He's washed. I'm going to go. Browns win this one.
[01:16:40] Speaker A: Browns winning Denver.
[01:16:42] Speaker B: Yes. Seals taking care of business. Another dub on paper in May. This Browns team looks good.
[01:16:50] Speaker A: Another dub.
[01:16:53] Speaker B: I should have just predicted all wins undefeated.
[01:16:57] Speaker C: I mean, I feel like I'm not.
[01:16:58] Speaker A: Far off of it.
[01:16:59] Speaker B: You're not.
[01:17:01] Speaker A: I'm going to go browns lose this game. I think Russell Wilson is benched by this time and Jared Stidham is your starter.
[01:17:07] Speaker B: We're losing to Jared Stidham and you're going to great.
[01:17:09] Speaker A: He threw for, like, 500 yards in the last game of the season in La.
[01:17:15] Speaker C: That was against the 49 ers, too, wasn't it?
[01:17:17] Speaker A: Yeah. He's just waiting to ball out. He's just waiting for balls out.
[01:17:22] Speaker B: He's waiting to get his balls out.
[01:17:23] Speaker A: Waiting to take his balls out.
[01:17:24] Speaker C: What the heck?
[01:17:25] Speaker A: All right. From Mile High, we head out to SoCal to take on Los Angeles Rams on Sunday, December 3. Another 425 start on Fox.
[01:17:38] Speaker B: Sean McVeigh is a good coach.
They still got a lot of problems over there, but the Browns always lose to somebody they're not supposed to. So I'm actually going to go with the Rams in this one.
[01:17:50] Speaker A: Seals.
[01:17:53] Speaker B: Nothing more.
[01:17:54] Speaker A: Browns are 15 to one. Yeah, I think Los Angeles bounces back this year.
I think that it doesn't matter what you think.
The coaching is too good. And I think if Matt Stafford stays healthy, this is probably a playoff team again.
[01:18:14] Speaker B: Yeah, that's probably a big key to it is Stafford's health.
[01:18:17] Speaker A: But from there, we head back home to take on the Jacksonville I gave him a loss loss against the Rams. We take on the Jacksonville Jaguars on Sunday, December 10 at 01:00 p.m on CBS.
Who you got in the college quarterback? Clemson College quarterback bowl.
[01:18:38] Speaker B: I think we lose.
Trevor Lawrence is pretty good.
[01:18:41] Speaker A: Jacksonville's on the rise.
[01:18:43] Speaker B: I'm not a Trevor Lawrence fan, but.
[01:18:45] Speaker C: I think he's but I also agree. I think we lose, they get Ridley back.
[01:18:51] Speaker B: Why everything I say, this guy said.
[01:18:54] Speaker C: I mean, pick me first and I guarantee you follow me half the time, too.
[01:18:58] Speaker A: I'm going to go loss here as well. I think Jacksonville is one of those teams on the rise. They're the only team you got. Doug Peterson there. I think he's right at the ship.
[01:19:09] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, you said Ridley, didn't you?
[01:19:11] Speaker C: Yeah, they got Ridley back.
[01:19:12] Speaker B: I forgot.
[01:19:13] Speaker C: They go with Christian Kirk who had a great ingram, you know, this team.
[01:19:17] Speaker B: Might make some noise this year.
[01:19:18] Speaker A: Yeah, they might very well.
[01:19:19] Speaker B: Wow. All right, moving on.
[01:19:20] Speaker A: And think about their division.
[01:19:21] Speaker B: I don't want to turn our podcast into a Jacksonville Jackson into the AFC South. We have bigger fans in Cleveland than they do in Jacksonville.
[01:19:28] Speaker A: Sunday, December 17 to be determined might be a flex game. Take it on the Chicago Bears.
Browns in Chicago.
[01:19:35] Speaker B: Browns.
[01:19:36] Speaker A: No, wait, sorry. They're in there at home. I lied.
[01:19:38] Speaker B: Browns win. I know Justin Fields is special, but Nick Chubb is going to run for 400 yards next.
[01:19:45] Speaker A: Wow, 400.
He's going to break eleven carries.
[01:19:52] Speaker B: Hot take there.
[01:19:54] Speaker A: Yeah, big deals.
[01:19:56] Speaker B: Browns win.
[01:19:59] Speaker C: I mean, if Justin Field takes that next step, I could see it being a close one or even an L, but browns dub.
[01:20:05] Speaker A: Browns dub. Okay. I think Justin Fields. I like Justin Fields. I wish the best for Justin Fields. I think Justin Fields is not going to ever have success in Chicago. I think for him to have success, he needs to get out somewhere else because they're just chicago's a mess. A closet full of ass. Browns win.
[01:20:22] Speaker B: Closet full of ass. There's a technical term for it.
[01:20:26] Speaker A: Browns win in Chicago on a time to be determined. And then the drama and the fireworks. On Christmas Eve, the Browns head down to Houston, Texas. Let's take on Deshaun Watson's old crew at 01:00 p.m on CBS.
[01:20:43] Speaker B: Let's just touch on this a little bit. Pun intended.
[01:20:46] Speaker A: You want to massage the details a bit.
[01:20:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
The NFL can once again stand high and mighty and say, we did everything we could to suspend this monster for as long as we could. But once again, they put Deshaun Watson playing his former team.
[01:21:01] Speaker A: The rub is always the money.
[01:21:04] Speaker B: See what you did there? Once again, the Texans are ass again.
[01:21:07] Speaker A: We're going to win zills 100%.
Look, I think this is a sleeper game. It's a trap game for the Browns at the end of the season who are trying everything in their power to make a push for the playoffs. And I think this Houston team is much improved in the offseason. And though there weren't any fireworks last year, I think with a better team, there might be some more fireworks going on that day. And you're right around Christmas time. So who needs a gift? Let's give it to Houston. Browns lose.
[01:21:37] Speaker B: Oh, you're such a jolly fellow.
[01:21:40] Speaker A: Rounding out the 2023 calendar on December 20, eigth at home against the New York Jets led by Aaron Rogers on 815. On prime video thursday Night Football.
[01:21:54] Speaker B: I got the Browns taking out the jets.
[01:21:57] Speaker A: Browns taking out the jets.
[01:21:58] Speaker B: Seriously, I think the jets are going to fare far worse than people think they are. I don't think that they're an instant super bowl contender like everyone thinks they are.
[01:22:07] Speaker C: I disagree.
They had a top ten defense, right? If I'm not mistaken, the only thing that team was missing last year is a quarterback and Aaron Rodgers.
[01:22:17] Speaker B: The jets are trash.
[01:22:18] Speaker C: Aaron Rogers is a shell of his.
[01:22:19] Speaker B: Former self, sure, but you're a shell of yourself. The jets are trash.
[01:22:24] Speaker C: Aaron Rodgers gets it, though. I think.
[01:22:31] Speaker A: The Browns just got beat by the Texans. They're done at this point.
[01:22:34] Speaker B: L, man, this is where the wheels fall off.
[01:22:37] Speaker A: This is where the wheels fall off. And then Sunday to start off the new year, January 7 at Cincinnati at a time to be determined.
Ronnie, who you got?
[01:22:51] Speaker B: Cincinnati wins this one. I think it's going to be fairly easy too.
Don't know why, but I think this is going to be one of those games where it's towards the end of the season. Could be either way depending on if it's your record or my record or Seals record, nobody knows because it's May.
But I think this is a spot where I think there's going to be a lot of hype around the Browns. They could potentially be making a playoff push and they're just going to lay an egg here. So close out the season.
[01:23:17] Speaker A: Big Seals.
[01:23:18] Speaker C: I think whoever wins this game is going to win the north king of the north. And like I said before, we own Joe Burrow. So Brown, Stub, take the NSA.
[01:23:28] Speaker B: I'm just sweeping the Bengals.
[01:23:30] Speaker C: Yes, sir.
[01:23:31] Speaker A: I think after two tough losses against the Texans and the jets, with Cincinnati vying for the playoffs and seeding, this is a final Browns loss on the year.
[01:23:43] Speaker B: So what does that take everybody's records to?
[01:23:46] Speaker A: Let's pause for addition.
All right, Ronnie, so what is your season total?
[01:23:56] Speaker B: I got the Browns going ten and seven, which if I had to predict in May, that means you do. They're going to be fighting for a wild card spot.
[01:24:07] Speaker C: Big Seals, now that you come to think about it, I've got twelve and five.
[01:24:11] Speaker A: Damn, what did I tell you last week?
Every Browns fan is going to look at the schedule and go twelve and five bare minimum.
[01:24:19] Speaker B: Twelve and five bare minimum.
[01:24:20] Speaker C: No matter who they play, I mean they're going to have to win.
[01:24:22] Speaker B: At least we got a fourth place schedule.
[01:24:26] Speaker C: They're going to have to win at least eleven if they want to make the playoffs in the bloodbath that is the AFC.
[01:24:33] Speaker A: Very true. Very true. I unfortunately did not have a whole lot of dubs on the board. I got six. So they mixed, what? Six and eleven.
[01:24:41] Speaker B: Six and eleven fires to fastket.
[01:24:43] Speaker A: That would feel bad if we're six and eleven we're firing everybody an all out fire sale.
[01:24:48] Speaker B: All the good vibes that we were sending the Jim Shorts. Jim shorts.
[01:24:51] Speaker A: He's gone too. I do think that this Browns team has improved but this schedule is harder than it looks. I don't know that.
[01:24:57] Speaker B: Look, fourth place schedule means nothing. It's the NFL, guys.
[01:25:00] Speaker A: Well, yeah, because I think you get fourth place. Schedule, but then you end up playing teams like the Rams and the Jaguars that I think are going to be good this year.
[01:25:08] Speaker B: I agree.
[01:25:09] Speaker A: It doesn't help me and Houston again, because I think they're going to be better.
[01:25:13] Speaker B: This give I'll give everybody else this, though. It actually is pretty fun playing schedule game because you turned.
[01:25:23] Speaker A: They turned you.
[01:25:24] Speaker B: I just got so turned for the season. I just can't wait for football to start. It's the best. And it starts on my birthday this year. What could be better?
[01:25:31] Speaker A: A Browns win, for sure.
[01:25:33] Speaker B: Well, yeah, that could be better. I have them winning. You don't.
[01:25:36] Speaker A: I don't.
[01:25:36] Speaker B: I hate you anyway. So that takes us to the Burning River Sports, guys.
I will once again remind you, don't forget to call us. Let us know what you think about our scheduled predictions. Do you think I'm an idiot? You think Kenny's a dumb ass? I do, too. But that's besides the point. Call us. Let us know how you feel. Celias is going twelve and five. So big seals over there. Just twelve and five. Apparently. We're world beaters.
[01:26:01] Speaker A: Let's hear those predictions.
[01:26:02] Speaker B: Yeah. Send us. Call in. Give us your predictions. Talk about the browns. Talk about Jim Brown. Talk about James Brown.
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[01:26:40] Speaker A: More coming soon.
[01:26:42] Speaker B: Yeah. So, Kenny, Kenneth, Thunder. What can we expect next week?
[01:26:47] Speaker A: Join us back here in two weeks. We are officially bisexual for the rest of the offseason. No, we're not.
[01:26:52] Speaker B: We're biweekly.
[01:26:53] Speaker A: Biweekly.
[01:26:54] Speaker B: This joke is getting old.
[01:26:55] Speaker A: It's never going to get old.
Browns news, guys. News, guardians, season updates, and whatever the hell else we can come up with in the meantime.
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[01:27:31] Speaker A: More.
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[01:28:12] Speaker B: That is a fact for hell. Next time I buy Emily flowers. She's getting some Viagra.
[01:28:17] Speaker A: Your little blue pill in there, bro. Nice that's it is all it comes.
[01:28:20] Speaker B: Down to plant food. But it's funny, we're talking about Viagra when your shirt says hashtag flaccid, mine says full chub.
[01:28:31] Speaker A: We got to get Pfizer to sponsor the show.
[01:28:35] Speaker B: If you could guess who needs that little blue pill sitting at this desk.
[01:28:39] Speaker A: Just because my shirt says hashtag flaccid doesn't mean I have reptile dysfunction.
[01:28:44] Speaker B: You never know.
[01:28:46] Speaker A: Which I don't sure. You're really putting a crank in my great my flaccid. Thanks. I did burn off all my genitals there, so I guess there's that.
[01:28:58] Speaker B: Can never erection.
[01:29:00] Speaker A: Know, we talked a little bit a while ago about the rule of Patrick. I'm not going to go down that road again. But I have another fun story about words and naming things.
[01:29:10] Speaker B: Let's hear it.
[01:29:11] Speaker A: Arctic comes from the Greek word arctos, meaning bear. There are bears there.
[01:29:17] Speaker B: There are bears.
[01:29:18] Speaker A: You know where there aren't any bears?
[01:29:20] Speaker B: The South Pole.
[01:29:21] Speaker A: In the Antarctic.
[01:29:24] Speaker B: Oh. Because anti Arctic, I get it.
[01:29:27] Speaker A: That's how clever humans are.
[01:29:29] Speaker B: Wow. Incredible. That's how Antarctica got its name.
[01:29:32] Speaker A: That's how we name things. But if you'd ever find yourself in.
[01:29:35] Speaker B: The Arctic or the Antarctic no, in the Arctic. Oh, in the Arctic.
[01:29:39] Speaker A: Specifically in the Arctic, where the bears are. And you should find yourself face to face with a polar bear, what do I do? And you should I don't know. But if you should win that battle for your life, be careful about what you do with your spoils. Because should you eat 30 to 90 grams of a polar bear's liver, that would be plenty to kill an adult human being.
[01:30:05] Speaker B: But why?
[01:30:07] Speaker A: I don't know. There's toxins in there.
[01:30:08] Speaker B: That's why I want to do that. But why?
Man, imagine being the poor schmuck that had to figure that out.
[01:30:16] Speaker A: The polar bear.
[01:30:17] Speaker B: Oh, my God. I had to battle this polar bear. I killed it with my bare hands. Dead. Because I ate its liver. I ate its liver and it was over for me.
[01:30:25] Speaker A: I think there's probably like you shouldn't eat a lot of animals because they.
[01:30:29] Speaker B: Eat so much tuna.
[01:30:31] Speaker A: Just because well, it's usually because liver is like I don't know if they eat tuna.
[01:30:33] Speaker B: Salmon. Salmon. There's like, mercury.
[01:30:36] Speaker C: Is this a black bear?
[01:30:38] Speaker A: Grizzly bear, a polar bear?
[01:30:42] Speaker C: I don't know what they eat.
[01:30:45] Speaker A: I think they eat seals.
[01:30:50] Speaker B: Listen, we all got chased by a polar bear. You know the rule. You just got to be faster than our slowest guy. A big seals is sticking to nature and getting eaten by a polar bear.
[01:31:01] Speaker A: And I will not eat their livers.
[01:31:03] Speaker B: This is actually a real argument.
[01:31:07] Speaker A: Here we go.
[01:31:08] Speaker B: Who's faster? The big seal?
[01:31:10] Speaker A: Here we go.
[01:31:10] Speaker B: Or Kenny Thunder?
[01:31:12] Speaker A: I still have fast twitch muscles, I just don't use them.
[01:31:14] Speaker B: Seal, you got a rebuttal.
[01:31:16] Speaker C: I got longer legs.
[01:31:18] Speaker A: But you've never had fast twitch.
[01:31:20] Speaker B: I seriously have to ask, big seal, do you think you would actually beat kenny Thunder in a race.
Yeah.
[01:31:29] Speaker C: I got confidence.
[01:31:30] Speaker B: Oh, gosh. I got our next viral video ready. Okay, go on. What's next for let's do it though.
[01:31:35] Speaker A: But let's do it in, like, bear suits. Polar bear suits.
[01:31:38] Speaker B: No, that doesn't actually solve sumo suits. We'll do that as the second race. Go on.
[01:31:43] Speaker A: All right. And our final facts for days we're about to go where the Running River sportscast has never gone before.
[01:31:49] Speaker B: Where's that?
[01:31:50] Speaker A: Really close to the line.
As close as you can go.
Six Flags, are you all right?
[01:31:57] Speaker B: Yeah. Just keep going close to the line.
[01:32:02] Speaker A: Six Flags theme parks. Y'all familiar?
[01:32:05] Speaker B: I'm familiar. I am very familiar, Kosher, because we.
[01:32:08] Speaker A: Had one right here in Portage County, right? The old Six Flags Worlds of Adventure, which was once the world's largest amusement park.
Six Flags. Does anyone know what Six Flags actually stands for in the world where Mr. Rogers is posthumously being canceled? Does anyone know what Six Flags Six Flags is referring to?
[01:32:30] Speaker B: No, but I bet you're going to tell us.
[01:32:33] Speaker A: Six Flags comes from the six different nations that have governed Texas. Can you name one?
[01:32:43] Speaker B: No?
[01:32:44] Speaker A: Okay. How about you? Big seals? Any American history in your head?
[01:32:48] Speaker C: Not about the six governing nations of Texas.
[01:32:50] Speaker A: You don't know a single one? Like Louisiana Purchase? Any of that?
[01:32:54] Speaker B: There's spider webs in my eye.
[01:32:57] Speaker A: Nothing rings a bell.
[01:32:59] Speaker C: The Alamo.
[01:33:00] Speaker A: Where it's at? Anything?
[01:33:02] Speaker B: I'm not going to lie to you, I'm distracted at my mask. So what was the question?
[01:33:07] Speaker A: Six different nations have governed Texas, which is where the name Six Flags comes from.
[01:33:12] Speaker B: Mexico.
[01:33:13] Speaker A: What six nations have governed Texas? Mexico. One.
[01:33:15] Speaker B: United States.
[01:33:16] Speaker A: United States. Two.
[01:33:17] Speaker B: Canada. No, damn it.
[01:33:19] Speaker C: I misunderstood the question.
[01:33:22] Speaker A: We got two so far.
[01:33:24] Speaker C: The French.
[01:33:25] Speaker A: The French three.
[01:33:29] Speaker C: Ecuador.
[01:33:30] Speaker A: Nope.
Great guess.
[01:33:32] Speaker B: I don't think that was a great guess. No, I don't know.
[01:33:36] Speaker A: The Spaniards in Spain.
[01:33:38] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:33:39] Speaker A: Was once the Republic of Texas.
[01:33:41] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:33:41] Speaker A: And finally finally, the Confederate States of America.
[01:33:49] Speaker B: So, wait, Six Flags is paying homage to the Confederate States of America?
[01:33:55] Speaker C: What you're saying?
[01:33:56] Speaker B: Hashtag cancel six flags.
[01:33:59] Speaker A: Like, how have they not been right?
[01:34:02] Speaker B: Honestly, though, seriously, I got to take this mask off. There's seriously spiders in this thing.
[01:34:09] Speaker A: So, yeah. The fact that their namesake is essentially a tribute to the Confederacy, I thought.
[01:34:15] Speaker B: That was going to be worse than it was. I mean, it's really bad for Six Flags, not for Burning River sportscast. So, I mean, I didn't have to wear the bag on my head thinking we were going to get canceled.
[01:34:25] Speaker A: No, the bag on your head was because you couldn't remember American history.
[01:34:28] Speaker B: If I was from Six Flags corporate, I should be wearing a bag on my head.
[01:34:32] Speaker A: Should probably become Five flags.
[01:34:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:34:34] Speaker C: Pretty quickly.
[01:34:35] Speaker B: Denounce the Confederate States of America immediately.
[01:34:38] Speaker A: If you're going to be problem, don't just be a part of the problem, be the whole damn problem.
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[01:34:52] Speaker A: Sports cast burning river sports cast smooth tone.
[01:34:59] Speaker B: Yeah, nice. Very nice. Hey, you know why, Mr?
[01:35:02] Speaker A: Because you drove a Hyundai to get here tonight. I drove an $80,000 BMW. That's my name.
[01:35:09] Speaker B: I'm funny how?
[01:35:10] Speaker A: I mean, funny like I'm a clown.
[01:35:12] Speaker B: I amuse you erroneous. Erroneous on both counts. Let's just touch on this a little bit. Pun intended.
[01:35:19] Speaker A: You want to massage the details a bit?
[01:35:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:35:22] Speaker A: The rub is always the money.
[01:35:24] Speaker B: It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.
[01:35:30] Speaker A: Jimmy Butler takes it straight to the nuggets.
I'm like, he's going to pass out.
[01:35:41] Speaker C: Man down, mare, down.
[01:35:42] Speaker A: Bear down, mare, down.
[01:35:45] Speaker B: Taking out context, I could see where that sounded crazy. I desperately want to make love to a schoolboy.
[01:35:53] Speaker A: A closet full of ass.
[01:35:55] Speaker B: Brown's closet full of ass.
[01:35:58] Speaker A: There's a technical term for I am.
[01:36:00] Speaker B: The one who knocks.
Motorboat. You play the motorboat.
You throw the boat.
[01:36:08] Speaker A: Son of a bitch. You old sailor, you.
[01:36:10] Speaker C: I'll be rock hard in portrait rock hard.
[01:36:13] Speaker B: You're thrilled we approve of Apple.
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