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[00:00:25] Speaker A: Sportscast.
[00:00:25] Speaker B: The playoffs are all but over, and the stage is set. Chiefs, Eagles, two teams go in. One team comes out.
[00:00:33] Speaker A: Who you got?
[00:00:35] Speaker B: Of course, we'll have to wait one more week to see it all unfold as players ramp up for the Pro Bowl games. And meanwhile, in the snow covered suburb of Berea, the Browns braintrust is eyeing significant off season moves. Who's staying? Who was coming? And who was going? Plus, we say goodbye to an old friend, and we break it all down for you, next on the Burning River Sportscast.
I took a dump before the show. I'd take that.
[00:01:04] Speaker A: We took a big shit on Cincinnati this week in our social medias, and.
[00:01:09] Speaker B: People were not happy about it. More on that later. FM. FM.
[00:01:14] Speaker A: You want to see their package? Shirley from Laverne. And Shirley died today.
[00:01:18] Speaker B: Oh, no. That's just another in a long line of celebrities that have died this year.
[00:01:23] Speaker A: Name another.
[00:01:28] Speaker B: Kick. TAC toe.
Very punny.
[00:01:31] Speaker A: Yeah, but there's a lot of cholesterol, though.
[00:01:35] Speaker B: Hopefully something funny happens, someone's dong falls out. I don't know, something good, and then.
[00:01:40] Speaker A: We will john Goodman is the greatest American actor of all time. Fight me.
[00:01:48] Speaker B: Welcome in to the Burning River sports cast. Presented by Tapin Media. I'm Kenny Thunder, seated, as always, right beside the former Mayville Chili cook off champion and future astronaut red Hot Ronnie Jams. Ronnie, can you remind our friends where they can find the best podcast in the galaxy?
[00:02:03] Speaker A: They can find our podcasts wherever they get their podcasts. That's Apple podcasts spotify. Stitcher, google Podcasts, amazon Music, Pandora, iHeartRadio Pocketcast Castro and so many more.
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[00:02:14] Speaker A: Yo, did you see the Maryland girl that found a megalodon tooth? How do you can't say megalodon megalodon megalodon tooth.
[00:02:24] Speaker B: Did you see it?
I'm vaguely familiar. Do you have the story?
[00:02:28] Speaker A: Yeah. So nine year old Molly Sampson was out with her family in Chesapeake Bay on Christmas morning, and she went out to the beach, and she said, I'm going to find a megalodon tooth, as most kids would. Yeah, absolutely. Less than 30 minutes later, she did just that.
This girl wants to be a paleontologist when she grows up. She actually knows a decent amount about megalodons.
[00:02:55] Speaker B: Who doesn't?
[00:02:55] Speaker A: I mean, right? So as soon as she saw this thing, she started screaming. She's like, it's a megalodon tooth. It's a megalodon tooth. And her family was like, all right, well, maybe we should get this checked out. She actually is a pretty smart kid. So they took it to a museum where they did confirm that it was a megalodon tooth. It was one of the largest to ever be found in that area. And they also say it came from the upper left jaw of a megalodon, which was likely 45 to 50ft long and lived roughly 15 million years ago.
And now young fossil hunters are emailing this girl, hailing her as a hero. So it's pretty cool. But the story came out this week even though it happened on Christmas, because they confirmed that it was a megalodon tooth.
[00:03:37] Speaker B: Talk about speaking it into existence, right? Less than 30 minutes later, I'm going to find a megalodon tooth.
[00:03:44] Speaker A: Yeah. I got two things to say about this story, though. One, megalodon's were just 45 to 50ft long.
[00:03:50] Speaker B: They were quite big.
[00:03:52] Speaker A: Can you imagine a great white shark? But that big? They're already big enough.
[00:03:58] Speaker B: Really big. In fact, the word megalodon literally means giant tooth or big tooth.
[00:04:05] Speaker A: Well, they had big ones.
[00:04:06] Speaker B: Big teeth.
[00:04:07] Speaker A: Yeah. So in second, here's my question to you.
It's actually a two parter. Here part one. Answer this one first. Do you think a megalodon could still.
[00:04:19] Speaker B: Be out there, just given that we haven't explored the deepest depths of the ocean? Like, are you just the probability of is there still one existing, like megalodon the movie?
[00:04:29] Speaker A: Do you think that might be legit?
[00:04:30] Speaker B: I mean, you go down through the.
[00:04:33] Speaker A: Fog and there's just a megalodon there. I don't know if you've seen the movie, but it's spoiler alert.
[00:04:38] Speaker B: I would say this is that I don't think there's a megalodon left because they by all counts went extinct like 30 million years ago. This is a long time to kind of not have a sighting of a megalodon. But that being said, we have not ventured into some of the deepest, darkest, cavernous places inside of the ocean.
We've joked before about it's, said that we know more about space than we do about the ocean. That's kind of a scary thought given that we live here.
So I don't think it's out of the realm of possibly that there are legitimate monsters down there. I just don't know that there are megalodons.
[00:05:19] Speaker A: All right, so that was part one. So no megalodons. That's your feelings on that. Here's part two. The ocean is big and we don't know a lot about it. As you just said.
What kind of fucking scary things do you think are out there?
[00:05:33] Speaker B: Oh my God. So scariest things. Holy shit.
[00:05:36] Speaker A: Like, talk about something I'm afraid of the ocean is what I'm afraid of. I've told people multiple times I'd rather go to space than go to the ocean.
[00:05:44] Speaker B: That's why you're going to be a future astronaut.
[00:05:46] Speaker A: Yeah, which is weird because I kind of want to go on a cruise. But I think you stay close enough to land cruises kind of go out.
[00:05:54] Speaker B: Get out there, man. You look around and there's no land for a while.
[00:05:57] Speaker A: I know, but still, we could still possibly be saved. I don't know. I've probably not taken the Titanic because it sank, first of all. But I'm not going across the ocean because you get out there way in the middle and you won't be saved.
[00:06:12] Speaker B: I was just looking at the Titanic thing the other day because they were so close to making it like 87% of the way they're so close. But besides the point, there are undoubtedly absolute monsters down there, things that are probably scarier than Megalodon. So how's that?
[00:06:32] Speaker A: Have you ever seen the videos of an octopus just like squeezing into random things and choking stuff?
Imagine that. But, like fucking huge. Really like the biggest fucking squid you ever saw.
I'm terrified of the ocean.
And you can never see what's around you.
[00:06:52] Speaker B: I mean, amazing creatures. Right? To just the thought, like you said, the sheer size of these things. And it's funny because really the way we gauge size of ancient creatures like that is through fossil records. But fish don't really have bones like a Tyrannosaurus Rex did. So really everything that we've kind of judged the size of the Megalodon off of is just I like that you said Megalodon. Megalodon. Megalodon is the size of its teeth because they were like eight inches long and they're like you would have to have a really big mouth.
[00:07:26] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, they've never really to my knowledge I guess we'll have to check that it found like a Megalodon skeleton.
[00:07:35] Speaker B: No, it's just an impressive creature. I mean, when you think about, like a whale shark is probably the closest thing that we can even what? A Megalodon would that's the crazy thing.
[00:07:49] Speaker A: Isn't a Megalodon put some sort of chart up here, that's size comparison. Yeah, because isn't it as big as like a blue whale or bigger than a blue whale or something?
[00:08:02] Speaker B: Well, I don't know that it was quite that big because it would have been because they're, what, 60ft long, and I think a blue whale can be like 100ft long.
[00:08:09] Speaker A: Okay, blue whales. That's a whole nother story. Those actually live in the ocean. We know they're there. Have you seen the videos of those just popping up next to people or on people? It's just like there's a fucking whale here.
[00:08:23] Speaker B: We have to bleep so much at the beginning of this episode.
[00:08:26] Speaker A: I'm sorry. The ocean really gets me going.
[00:08:30] Speaker B: Yeah, whales are whales are here. I mean, just the thought of a fish that big yeah, what do you even do? It's big enough that it can swallow you basically whole.
[00:08:37] Speaker A: We're on the verge of swallowing this entire show with this topic.
[00:08:43] Speaker B: It's interesting, though, the final thing that I would point out is just I.
[00:08:47] Speaker A: Had to reel us in a little bit. No pun intended.
[00:08:50] Speaker B: You think about a creature that's this big. I mean, this was the apex predator on the planet.
It's almost this kind of like microcosm or allegory to accumulating wealth and power. And what happens at the end of the day because Megalodon got so big that it had to consume like 2500 pounds of food a day. It's like 100,000 calories a day to live. And you just ran out of things to eat?
[00:09:19] Speaker A: Not enough.
[00:09:20] Speaker B: They were too big and there wasn't enough stuff to eat.
[00:09:23] Speaker A: Yeah, it's just wild. I saw that story and I immediately went to Megalodons were pretty big. And then from there I went to the ocean's. Terrifying. It's the worst.
[00:09:34] Speaker B: It is terrifying. That's true.
[00:09:36] Speaker A: Anyways, we'll get started with the show here. Let's kick it off with the burning River Rundown.
[00:09:48] Speaker B: Thanks, you all for joining Shark Week.
[00:09:53] Speaker A: Oh, man. I haven't got that fired up for an opening topic yet.
[00:09:56] Speaker B: That was I love sharks. There's nothing better. I always say there's nothing better than seeing sharks in the ocean.
[00:10:02] Speaker A: He has said that since we were like Shark Week.
[00:10:05] Speaker B: Shark Week is my favorite time of year. I can't wait.
[00:10:08] Speaker A: So stories of note for the Browns this week. Always start with the browns in the Burning River Rundown. Miles Garrett, Nick Chubb and Joel Batonio were already going to the Pro Bowl that we actually hadn't even touched on that bad golf clap. But yeah. Good job, guys. And now Wyatt Teller has been added to the Pro Bowl roster.
[00:10:28] Speaker B: Excellent.
[00:10:29] Speaker A: He was originally an alternate and is now replacing Joe Thuny.
[00:10:34] Speaker B: Is itune Thuny from the Chiefs? Speaking of Wyatt, our Wyatt Christmas card fell down. You got to fix that old please. Wyatt's back now. We're good.
[00:10:46] Speaker A: Old please. All right.
So Wyatt Teller has joined the ranks, but here's the deal. I know we'll get into this a little bit later.
Why are Wyatt Teller and Joel Batonio even going? It's flag football.
[00:11:00] Speaker B: There's going to be a lot of contests.
[00:11:04] Speaker A: What are they going to do? A strong man contest. You're going to go through the lineup later?
[00:11:08] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll go through that later. I do think the most interesting thing, though, is like you said it's, what do the linemen do? Because I suppose you could put them up there and have them pankick each other for fun.
[00:11:19] Speaker A: I feel like while they think flag football is much safer and it probably is, it might actually be more dangerous for the linemen because I don't even know what they're doing. There's no pads. They're just like running into each other.
[00:11:34] Speaker B: The only thing that might be fun would be, I guess, if they have different packages. Like maybe they'll have to sub in. You want to see their package, the jumbo package?
[00:11:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:44] Speaker B: And it'll just be all linemen running routes against linemen. Like that. Maybe that's how they're going to what.
[00:11:49] Speaker A: Was the John Madden quote from The Replacements? I love to see a fat guy because you get a big man spike and a big man dance.
[00:11:58] Speaker B: That's right.
[00:11:59] Speaker A: Yeah.
So good on them. We now have four Pro Bowlers from the Brown, so that's pretty cool.
And then I wanted to talk about some free agency notes here because I know free agency is obviously that's the next thing that we have to focus on that in the draft. But we don't have any picks in the draft.
[00:12:18] Speaker B: So many free agency shows coming up.
[00:12:20] Speaker A: Yeah, but I wanted to kick it off here with we do have some.
[00:12:24] Speaker B: Picks in the draft, though, by the way.
[00:12:26] Speaker A: We do have some. It's kind of tongue in cheek.
We have deshaun, Watson. We don't have any picks.
[00:12:32] Speaker B: There's eight actually. So I was looking at today, it's.
[00:12:34] Speaker A: Actually way more than I thought.
[00:12:35] Speaker B: More than I thought. That's the only reason I bring it up is it's more than I thought.
[00:12:37] Speaker A: But yeah, like you said, we'll get into plenty of free agency discussions as we kind of go on. But for now I just want to highlight some of the guys that kind of left the Browns, went on to have success elsewhere and now they're available again as free agents, especially the ones in positions of need.
[00:12:54] Speaker B: Just so I understand the exercise, we're looking at former Browns that we sent away and we're like, we might need you. Yeah, okay.
[00:13:04] Speaker A: Well, what does everybody say when people leave the Browns?
[00:13:08] Speaker B: They go on to do good things elsewhere. That's true.
[00:13:10] Speaker A: Right. So I just wanted to highlight a few of them so that we could talk about them and maybe they're a fit this year. I don't know. So number one. Here Larry Ogen. Joby was a pretty solid defensive tackle for us.
[00:13:23] Speaker B: Yeah, I always liked Ogin. Joby when he was here. I don't know how much he has left in the tank at this point, but I never had a problem with Larry Ogunjobi. I mean, I think he was an early kind of cap casualty. And again, the thinking at the time was probably just he's not irreplaceable, so they didn't but he continues to play well. But it is certainly an area of need.
[00:13:46] Speaker A: Yeah, you mentioned you don't know where he's at in his career, wear and tear, those types of things. I mean, you think you get him at a discount, you bring him back. Right? I mean, at least as an option. I'm not saying we absolutely bring this guy back. I'm saying maybe an option is like a depth piece.
[00:14:01] Speaker B: The interesting thing I think just in general around free agency draft and positions of need for the Browns, specifically needing interior linemen, is this draft is supposedly I'm not a draft expert, but I play one on TV but is supposedly full of defensive tackles. It's a big defensive tackle year.
[00:14:22] Speaker A: So you think they might just go heavy in the draft, ignore, but you might not see any sort of splash players in free agency.
[00:14:30] Speaker B: Well, I actually almost think the opposite. I think because teams that have good picks and early picks are going to want the best talent, the best of the best for long term. And I think you might be able to get guys like Oak and Joby who were their last contract maybe would have been overvalued at his position that is going into their last contract. So I think you might actually have opportunities to build that D line through free agency more so than some other positions this year.
[00:15:00] Speaker A: Yep. And so along with Ogan joby, we've got Vince Taylor, another defensive tackle that's out there. Played well.
I mean, as far as options and depth pieces, like we just talked same in my opinion. That's kind of like the same area that you see Ogan jobi in.
[00:15:18] Speaker B: Right. How old is Vincent Taylor?
[00:15:22] Speaker A: Well, you're the I'll look it up. Resident statistician.
The old Google machine. I've been saying we need to install an Alexa down here. Alexa, tell me how old Vincent Taylor is.
[00:15:35] Speaker B: 29. Okay. Yeah, he'll get some run there, but.
[00:15:40] Speaker A: I think he's probably you start getting around the age of 30, pretty much any position in the NFL, and they don't want to pay you like they used to.
[00:15:47] Speaker B: Well, especially guys like that, unless you're a generational talent, when you play with that much weight, it's just harder on your body. So I think just in general, their careers tend to be a little shorter than some of the skill position guys.
[00:16:03] Speaker A: Yeah. So the next one up here, I have Elijah Lee at linebacker.
God knows we are thin at linebacker, and the ones that we do have are much too small.
True. I just wanted to kind of throw him in the mix here.
Not that he's a really big guy either, though. I guess he's six 2229, so he's on the smaller.
[00:16:27] Speaker B: I think we're in a position to take anybody that we can come back to Cleveland.
[00:16:33] Speaker A: And the good thing we just talked about some of the other guys, vince Taylor and Ogan joby aging a little bit.
Eli Lee is 26, so he's still kind of in his prime. And if he could get him for.
[00:16:47] Speaker B: Not a premium, put ten pounds on him.
[00:16:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
I think that's a solid pick for a linebacker group that is lacking in every sense of the word.
[00:16:59] Speaker B: Yeah. And I think we had so much turnover there this year due to injuries. So even if a guy like Jacob Phillips comes mean, it's the second significant injury inside of two years. So you always hope those guys come back totally healthy and ready to play, but it's a gamble. Just like Elijah Lee would be.
[00:17:20] Speaker A: Yeah. And then next up, I have Jennard Avery, defensive end and outside linebacker.
[00:17:25] Speaker B: There's a name that I miss that I'm intrigued by, because I think he's a versatile player.
[00:17:30] Speaker A: He kind of slots in where you're losing that judavian clowny, but he's also a little bit more versatile, in my opinion, to where he could play a little bit of outside linebacker if we needed him to.
[00:17:41] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, I always thought I always liked Janardavier.
[00:17:46] Speaker A: I mean, obviously he'd be more of a defensive end in our system being what it is.
[00:17:50] Speaker B: Yeah. I always liked him when he was here. I don't think he got utilized properly while he was here, but I think he has a lot of things you can't teach the high motor nose for the football.
Is he like? Dick bucks. No, he's not Dick Butleck, but I think he's a solid NFL player. That's borderline.
[00:18:12] Speaker A: So, like, these are all guys we're not saying sign them, don't sign them, anything like that. All these guys that we're talking about here, just guys that you might hear their name start popping up in free agency. Because I don't think any of these guys that we're talking about are the guys that are highly sought after. Yeah, they're not the guys that everybody's after. They're the guys that probably are like that next tier down where it's which.
[00:18:34] Speaker B: Is kind of where we're shopping based on our assets.
[00:18:36] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:18:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:37] Speaker A: So this next one is Carl Nassib, defensive end. He's kind of bounced around, but he's played pretty solid pretty much everywhere he's gone.
He doesn't kind of light up the stat sheet or anything like that, but he's a solid player.
[00:18:51] Speaker B: I think he was on the Super Bowl team with the Buccaneers, wasn't he?
[00:18:54] Speaker A: Yeah, he was.
[00:18:55] Speaker B: I think he has a ring. So yeah, I mean, maybe good time, I think with Las Vegas veteran leadership.
I do know that he's really good at math and accounting. That's always good from Hard Knocks when he was teaching everybody how to manage their money.
[00:19:09] Speaker A: But he could probably make sure the right amount of people are on the field.
[00:19:13] Speaker B: Yeah, that's important. We struggle with that at times.
[00:19:16] Speaker A: Yeah. And then next up, your boy Kadero Hodge at wide receiver. I know you talked about him earlier in the season, and you love you some Hodge.
[00:19:26] Speaker B: I love me some Hodge.
[00:19:28] Speaker A: So, I mean, that could be a depth piece at wide receiver. Again, not that he's like putting up crazy stats or anything, but as far as depth at wide receiver, I know there's probably going to be some turnover in our wide receiver room.
[00:19:39] Speaker B: Yeah. Look, I respect Kadiro Hodge because I think he's a try hard guy, but I don't know that he's an NFL.
[00:19:46] Speaker A: Starter or even I'm going to admit that was a little bit of a joke just because I know you love Cadero Hodge.
[00:19:51] Speaker B: That's fair.
[00:19:51] Speaker A: But I don't think that we'll go after him. He was just ex brown. That happens to be available.
[00:19:58] Speaker B: Fair.
[00:19:58] Speaker A: One of the few that's done anything of note. So other names of note that are out there, but I don't think they'd really be a fit with us just because we have other areas of concern that are way ahead of this. Jordan Poyer and jabril peppers at the safety positions. Although I actually reassess this and now that I'm pretty sure and we'll actually get into this in just a minute, I'm pretty sure Johnson is going to be gone. So Jordan Poyer becomes a little bit more interesting, I would say.
[00:20:27] Speaker B: It's funny how good Jordan Poyer has become came after he left the Browns.
[00:20:34] Speaker A: Yeah, he had a stretch of probably three or four years where he was known as one of the top safety.
[00:20:38] Speaker B: He was a top safety in the league for sure.
At this point he's 31.
[00:20:44] Speaker A: But is he better than john johnson was last year? Probably.
[00:20:47] Speaker B: And he has a really pretty girlfriend or wife.
[00:20:53] Speaker A: That's all kenny cares about.
Kenny is worried about the talent they bring with them when they sign with the browns.
[00:21:01] Speaker B: At least he tried to break up LeBron's marriage.
Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly.
[00:21:10] Speaker A: He can't do the rest of the show.
[00:21:11] Speaker B: I'm still recovering from my yeah, I mean, he's an interesting name for sure. I don't know what's going to happen with john Johnson yet. I guess we'll see. But from a talent standpoint, somebody will.
[00:21:25] Speaker A: Give us something for him.
[00:21:26] Speaker B: He's going to get cut. From a talent standpoint. Like, is John johnson and Jordan poirier comparable at this point? Yeah, probably. And does he bring less locker room?
So sure.
[00:21:35] Speaker A: And then jabril pepper is obviously a strong safety. So I don't know that we really he'd be a fit for us. MJ. Stewart nickel corner.
[00:21:44] Speaker B: Yeah, we think like Jabril and MJ are guys. MJ probably has a greater better chance of coming because he's never really done anything outside of be a brown.
Jabril, I feel like, kind of left on not bad terms, bad terms, but.
[00:22:00] Speaker A: It was weird terms. And it was like nobody expected him to get traded. And then he was like, oh, what the hell?
[00:22:05] Speaker B: He wanted to be a brown and we didn't want it. So to me, I feel like just.
[00:22:11] Speaker A: Probably at the bottom of his list.
[00:22:13] Speaker B: The human nature component of it. Yeah.
[00:22:15] Speaker A: And then the final one I have on here, just again, name of note, not that I think we'll go after him at all, but Dontrell hilliard at running back. Obviously we're going to have some changes. Cream hunt's going to be gone.
I think everybody expects that. If he's back, it's going to be amazing to me. But cream hunt is going to be gone. But even still, I think we run with dearness johnson and jerome Ford and we're better there than we are with Dontrell hilliard.
[00:22:40] Speaker B: We run with them.
[00:22:42] Speaker A: See what you did earlier? I reeled us in during fish ocean talk and then now we're running without.
[00:22:49] Speaker B: Don trail hilliard here's. The only thing I would say is how many browns podcasts this week talked about don trail hilliard?
[00:23:04] Speaker A: Look, we cover the browns top to bottom, bro.
We make sure that everybody knows all of the options.
All right, next up here, we're going to talk about some legitimate trade options for the browns. Now, I want to clarify before we start this because people come in hot on social media. You start talking about this kind of stuff. We mentioned nick chubb's name and people wanted to kill us. We didn't say that they should trade him. We said would be dumb enough to trade him.
[00:23:33] Speaker B: Like we were trading him.
[00:23:35] Speaker A: They were so pissed at us. And then also I'm just going to go ahead and clarify this. Now. I know that the GM makes the trades and not the coach, you idiots.
Come on.
Our point was that the coach has a say in those things. He has influence. And Kevin Stefanski's offense is an air rate offense that doesn't value the running back enough.
[00:23:58] Speaker B: Right. So I think that's what we mean by would Kevin Stefanski trade Nick Chubb? Is if Kevin Stefanski doesn't see the need for generational talent at running back and you could acquire assets for him, does that make sense? Because you could probably get away with de Ernest Johnson and Jerome Ford in that backfield with a Deshaun Watson offense.
[00:24:19] Speaker A: And here's the funniest thing to me since we ran that a couple of weeks ago, literally, you talked about no other podcast talks about Don Trail Hilliard. Well, every other podcast has basically talked about would they trade Chubb? What could you for Chubb? Well, it's because you could get some legitimate assets for Nick Chubb. So, again, hang on. Let me start this segment by saying these are not things that we think should happen. These are not things that we would do. These are things that we're just saying could make.
[00:24:54] Speaker B: Um I'll take it a step further.
[00:24:56] Speaker A: Go ahead.
[00:24:57] Speaker B: I'll say I think some of these things are very likely, and I'm even supportive of it at this point, including.
[00:25:07] Speaker A: The one we just talked about.
[00:25:08] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll have the discussion. Because here's the thing.
What I would say is this is there's a lot of fan favorites, air quotes, fan favorites on this team.
What was your record this year?
What was your record last year?
[00:25:28] Speaker A: You want we keep losing. People don't like the team you keep losing.
[00:25:31] Speaker B: So obviously there's something wrong. And it's not that any of these names we might bring up, whether it's Nick Chubb, Wyatt Teller, David and Joe, like any names that you hear in trade rumors, it's not that they're bad guys or even necessarily that they're bad fits.
Is it the right time and the right place for them on this roster? And given where you are from a salary cap perspective, and given where you are from a draft capital perspective, does it make sense if you can get value out of one of these guys because you have to continue to build a team. I want Nick Chubb to be a Brown forever the rest of his career.
[00:26:09] Speaker A: I've said it multiple times. I'll continue to say he's my favorite Cleveland Brown of all time.
[00:26:15] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't want to see Nick Chubb go anywhere, but I also don't want to see Nick Chubb get underutilized in an offense to where he has no impact. And it's like Kareem Hunt this year, right? What did we say every week? Why are they even playing this guy? When we got to the point of the trade deadline. It's like, why not make if you could get a fifth rounder for him, why not? Because he wasn't offering you anything on the field and he was just taking up a roster spot. So if that's what Nick Chubb becomes, then that would be a damn shame. But it's not outside of the realm of possibility given the offense they want to run.
[00:26:46] Speaker A: Here's the thing with Nick Chubb, too, is we're not even saying that he would become what Kareem Hunt was this year.
Hell, even if it got not even close to that, like, if he dropped down to where he legitimately averaged 1314 carries a game, why is he on your team?
[00:27:02] Speaker B: Well, yeah, I just think he's not.
It's like having a four wheel drive car when you don't drive anywhere, when.
[00:27:12] Speaker A: All you do is take the car down the road to the grocery store and back.
[00:27:15] Speaker B: If you live in New York City and you take the subway, you're not going to buy an $80,000 Mercedes. Right.
[00:27:19] Speaker A: It doesn't make sense. So anyways, we put Nick Chubb in there before, got slaughtered for it on social media.
But we mentioned him again just because that's the kind of player that we're talking about here.
[00:27:29] Speaker B: Well, and I think that he's one of the most intriguing options because you.
[00:27:34] Speaker A: Can get some value rare in a running back.
[00:27:37] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, you could get value, and I don't know what that value is today, but anybody that's watched football in the last two to three years knows Nick Chubb is one of the preeminent runners in the game today and for the next two to three years could be a workhorse for you.
[00:27:51] Speaker A: And the other part of that is no other position in the NFL besides maybe linebacker has been devalued this much in recent years. Running back and linebacker. Basically what teams go with is you can run those things by committee and be okay, and it's not a big deal because of the way the NFL has evolved.
[00:28:15] Speaker B: You've seen a lot of teams do it. I mean, probably most famously is just the Patriots watching what they've done, how.
[00:28:20] Speaker A: Many watches they've never had, like, a legit running back.
[00:28:22] Speaker B: Corey Dillon maybe was the last good running back they had, and they had a bunch of guys that could play a role.
[00:28:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Like right now, they have probably their best prospect in years in Ramandre.
[00:28:32] Speaker B: Yeah, Ramandre is good, but that's not traditionally the kind of guy that they had. But you notice they bring in a guy like that when their offense has to start changing shape because you don't have Tom Brady at the helm anymore.
[00:28:43] Speaker A: Right. So we'll move past Nick Chubb. We're just saying he is a legitimate trade option at this point, whether anybody wants to admit that or not. Next up, we got Jed Wills. And I'm going to kind of play devil's advocate here. I'm going to just. Kind of offer you something, you tell me if you would take that or not. So Jed Wills, third rounder or better, take fourth rounder or better, take fifth rounder, 6th rounder or better, take 7th rounder or better.
[00:29:14] Speaker B: I took a dump before the show. I'd take that.
[00:29:19] Speaker A: So basically you're saying trade Jed Wills for anything.
[00:29:22] Speaker B: Yeah. You're not going to get anything for him. An old leather shoe.
[00:29:24] Speaker A: So I disagree.
I don't think Jed Wills is good. I think we need to trade him. But what I do know is I mentioned it earlier in the season, there's a number of PFF type publications that claim that he had a okay year. Not a good year, just an okay year, and have him as one of the better young linemen in the league. And so if somebody's willing to give you and I think we could get probably a fourth and then another late rounder for him, I absolutely would take that.
[00:29:55] Speaker B: Those are the same people that say Kevin Stefanski is the best analytics coach of all time.
[00:29:59] Speaker A: The whole good old whop away.
[00:30:01] Speaker B: Whop away. Yeah. So here's my thing about Jed, is you have $230,000,000 standing behind him, and for the offense that they want to.
[00:30:13] Speaker A: Run, he becomes that's actually probably the biggest case.
[00:30:16] Speaker B: He becomes your most crucial lineman. And he's not a lineman, he's a liability.
[00:30:22] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, at that point, you say, we have $230,000,000 guaranteed behind the line, and that's the guy that's responsible for keeping him on the field.
[00:30:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:30] Speaker A: How do you feel right now?
[00:30:31] Speaker B: Let's go back to New York City. You're living in New York City and you take the subway. You buy an $80,000 Mercedes and you leave it outside with the keys in it. That's what Jed Wills is.
[00:30:38] Speaker A: Yeah. Next gosh. We need a better left tackle, that's for sure.
Wyatt Teller, he's an interesting one. He's up next. We love Wyatt Teller here. I think he's a great guy and everything, but here's the deal with he wrestles alligators. He does. But here's the deal with Wyatt Teller. He's got a $13 million cap hit this year, and we don't have a ton of money to work with. I know everybody's going to say, yeah, we got a bunch of rollover money. Well, that gets eaten up pretty quick when you're trying to build a team.
[00:31:06] Speaker B: Especially when you have $55 million coming due.
[00:31:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:31:09] Speaker B: At the quarterback.
[00:31:09] Speaker A: Yeah. And that's what people forget. Yeah. There's rollover money. But we haven't started paying anybody yet.
[00:31:15] Speaker B: No.
[00:31:16] Speaker A: Sean Watson made $1 million last year, in case anyone was wondering. He made $1 million last year. This year, 55 million.
[00:31:23] Speaker B: And so when we first started this topic, we started talking about fan favorites and not wanting to get rid of them to this point of like, you have money coming due. The Browns offense, and I wish I hadn't screen capped the article because they were like, I want to say the 8th most expensive offense in the NFL this year. I don't have the exact figure, but they were one of the most expensive offenses in the NFL this year.
So now you got $55 million coming into that number. And what did it get you? What did it get you? Look, I love Wyatt Teller. I think Wyatt's a great player. I think he's a road grader. I think the other name that comes up here that's even more intriguing from a trade proposal standpoint is probably Joel Batonio. And people don't want to hear that either, because he's a certified hall of.
[00:32:10] Speaker A: Famer when he retires year and year out, pro Bowler.
[00:32:13] Speaker B: Yeah. But he's also probably a little bit older. And when you think about the future, would you rather hold on to a guy like Wyatt, or would you rather hold on to Joel Batonio, which is.
[00:32:26] Speaker A: A fair these both of these, we're not saying we could afford you're getting another guy that's going to come in and play just as well. That's not what we're saying. But can you afford with a Bill Callahan coached line to plug somebody in there and be okay? Maybe you get a step down, but they're okay, and they get coached up along.
[00:32:47] Speaker B: And here's again, going back to just the general idea of we're playing a game without a ton of assets, and the game that we want to play is changing in terms of scheme. Right. So if we're going to be throwing the ball a lot more if guys like Nick Chubb were to become expendable, I think you also have guys like Wyatt that are expendable. Batonio that are expendable. And the reason why is because I can maybe pass off a lineman that's not as good as Wyatt and not as good as Joel. If they're a good pass blocker, maybe they're not a great overall lineman. Maybe they don't have the run blocking skills that these guys have. But if we're not worried about running the ball and that being the focal point of the offense, and you could get away with a guy that is less costly but is a solid pass blocker, that might be all you need in this offense.
[00:33:34] Speaker A: Yeah, like we said, pretty much anybody that you're going to plug in, especially if they're already on the team, or even most likely if you get them in free agency for a lot cheaper than these guys, anybody that you plug in is not going to be them.
No, but again, we say they're coached by Bill Callahan, who is widely known as one of the best offensive line coaches in the league. And while we ripped on the line coming down the stretch this year because they kind of faltered, they've kind of proven since Bill Callahan's been there that our line is great every time they're healthy, like every time we start a season, we start the season phenomenally.
[00:34:08] Speaker B: They're widely regarded as one of the best lines in football. And I think it helps that they have one of the best backs in football because he makes you look good.
Yeah.
[00:34:19] Speaker A: Take him away to fans.
[00:34:20] Speaker B: Yeah.
I think there's both sides to that. Right? Like, can you survive without some of these guys? Yes. Will it suck because you won't be able to run the ball as good? Yes. But if that's what feeds the beast, right? If that's what leads to the Podesta Stefanski offense that they want to run, then those are decisions that you have to make. And I think I have one other name that I would throw in here, and it's David and Joku. I think we need receivers and depth there. But he's young, he's uber athletic. He's coming off his best season ever.
And if the Browns were to make a move in free agency to bring in DeAndre Hopkins or any other good top tier receiver top receiver. We'll talk free agency later.
[00:35:10] Speaker A: If we got nuke, I'd be pretty stoked.
[00:35:13] Speaker B: Yeah. So I think you have to look at that and go, again, this hasn't worked for us, having David and Joku. What has it done for you? Not that I dislike David and Joku. I love David and Joku. I think he's an interesting piece to have on a roster. I think he's got tremendous athleticism. He had a good year this year. He was mostly healthy, and I think he's a good run blocker. But again, going back to this whole thing, if we're not going to run.
[00:35:37] Speaker A: The ball, I think your whole point is the fact that you'd get a haul for him.
[00:35:42] Speaker B: You have to trade people that people want.
[00:35:44] Speaker A: And by a haul, I mean you're probably getting like a second rounder for him.
[00:35:47] Speaker B: But still a big beggars can't be choosers at this point, right? I mean, you got to get what you can get.
[00:35:52] Speaker A: Now, there's the flip side of this, too. So we're talking about second rounders, third rounders, what have you.
I'm actually of the opposite thinking. I think the draft is a.
[00:36:03] Speaker B: More.
[00:36:04] Speaker A: Like go get free agents. Just use the draft to supplement in. The best team to talk you talked about them earlier already, is the Patriots. The Patriots. Not that they went and got the big names, but they would go get all the solid players off of free agency and then they'd pick and choose in the draft because they always had late first round picks. They never had the early picks. They would do hard work as far as scouting and those types of things, and they would make sure that they hit as often as possible on those picks. And they built their teams through free agency. And it was all those second tier guys like we're talking about.
That's how they built those teams.
[00:36:45] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree.
[00:36:47] Speaker A: I was just saying to your Njoku point, like, I don't see them moving him, but that's a good one to throw up there because you can get assets for him.
[00:36:54] Speaker B: I do think again, I'm not an NFL executive, but it does seem like NFL organizations, overvalue draft picks that, oh, it's wild have potential to be both good and bad versus the general conservative idea of how most NFL teams operate. Right.
So it's a little bizarre, but the fact is that these teams do value these drafts. Look at what we got. Amari Cooper for fifth rounder.
[00:37:27] Speaker A: Yeah. I will say this. There probably is something to be said about putting all your eggs in the free agency basket, though, because look what happened to the Rams.
All of their guys kind of came of age, that 30 year old Mark all at the same time, and now they fall off a cliff. I think there's always a Super Bowl.
[00:37:45] Speaker B: Out of there always risk of free agency because you have guys that are if they're good on their first contract, now they're looking to get paid, and they're usually after a money grab. So we've been burned there. I mean, we had Kenny Britt and what was the other guy? Dwayne rainbow came through.
[00:38:01] Speaker A: I mean, some of these guys that.
[00:38:03] Speaker B: Were just looking for the last NFL contract, and so you can get burned in free agency.
[00:38:07] Speaker A: Dwayne Bowe was the biggest heartbreaker because he was so consistent. And then he came to the Browns and literally fell off a cliff.
[00:38:13] Speaker B: Yeah. And just started fires in the locker room.
[00:38:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:15] Speaker B: Just lit the thing on fire every day.
[00:38:17] Speaker A: Final name in here? Johnson. I'll literally take anything for this guy. The dump I took, just if anybody offers you anything, you take it. Because like I said, he's probably getting cut anyways with all the shit he started this year.
[00:38:33] Speaker B: I don't know. I mean, maybe he didn't play well. Maybe he comes into the locker room, though, with a fresh take and is rejuvenated by the fact that Jim Shorts.
[00:38:41] Speaker A: Is there, comes in and grovels and says, please forgive me.
[00:38:45] Speaker B: Well, I mean, if he comes in.
[00:38:46] Speaker A: And says, I love you, Jim Short.
[00:38:47] Speaker B: He says, Joe Woods was the problem. Put me in a bad position on every play. And no one knew what they were doing. Look, John Johnson wasn't the only Browns defender that played bad last year.
[00:38:55] Speaker A: Oh, no.
[00:38:57] Speaker B: We talked about Miles being the PFF standout stud at 92. That jadavion was your next best grade on the line. Who was your second leading sacker on this team this year?
[00:39:11] Speaker A: Probably going to tell me it was John Johnson.
[00:39:13] Speaker B: Taven Brian. How many sacks did Taven Brian have?
[00:39:16] Speaker A: He's coming up next. I don't know.
[00:39:19] Speaker B: Three. He had three.
[00:39:19] Speaker A: I was going to say not a lot.
[00:39:21] Speaker B: So you have Miles at 15 or 16. You have Taven Bryant at three. He's your next best option.
[00:39:26] Speaker A: Feels bad.
[00:39:26] Speaker B: So there's a lot of players on this team that, frankly, no one on that defense outside of miles and maybe Zell should be safe.
[00:39:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:39:33] Speaker B: And Martin Emerson, he was new but.
[00:39:35] Speaker A: Martin Emerson newsom, he played well for the most part.
So you mentioned Taven Bryan. That's a good segue into the next section of this. Here is guys that I'm predicting probably we are predicting that are going to be one and done with the Browns. They played this season. We brought them in. They were new. Some of these guys were exciting when we brought them in and now they're going to be gone because for one reason or another. So we're going to start with Chase Winovich.
Obviously, when we brought him in, made the trade for Chase Winovich, a lot of people were really excited but he just never really got healthy, couldn't live up to the potential. Played in only eight games for the Browns this year. And the Browns also discovered Alex Wright, who now at the very least is Chase Winovich's equal point.
[00:40:29] Speaker B: Certainly Alex Wright I think, has potential to be has good upside.
I don't know that they'll walk away from Chase Winovich at this point because I think if anything this year underscored, and I would say the same about your next option here, I think this year underscored the absolute need for depth at the position at defensive line. So I do think those guys that can play interior, can play rush, those guys are so important and I think they're important in a gym shorts. In a gym shorts. Gym shorts. Offense or defense? Sorry.
So I do think that he's going to value those guys. I mean, you heard him say Miles is going to be his anchor and so you have to have complimentary pieces there if you're going to let Miles run wild.
[00:41:19] Speaker A: That's fair. But I just even though he did.
[00:41:21] Speaker B: Suck this year, yeah.
[00:41:21] Speaker A: He was not good. Taven Bryan is the next one up here.
Andrew Barry took this guy because he was a former first rounder that didn't live up to hype. It's basically Andrew Barry's Mo. Those are the guys he loves to find. He finds former first rounders that didn't play as well as they should have and said we can get them for a steal.
So he thought he could catch lightning in a bottle with him.
And again, he didn't live up well, I guess I should say he did live up to expectations, second best sacker expectations of being a horrendous run stopper.
So he did exactly what he's done his whole career so far and he played extremely, you know, I guess that might be a Stefanski argument to keep him around long term.
[00:42:07] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:42:10] Speaker A: Again, one more thing with Taven Bryan is there was multiple times this year where not only myself just seeing him play, but people around Cleveland were bringing up effort as a big issue with him as he would take plays off and those types of things. But again, maybe that's Kevin Stefanski staple like he should be staying here.
[00:42:30] Speaker B: You don't try hard and you're undisciplined sign him long term ten year deal.
I think part of it, too, with Brian is, excuse me, you're going to.
[00:42:42] Speaker A: Make it through the show.
[00:42:42] Speaker B: My pneumonia or whatever I have is getting me.
[00:42:45] Speaker A: I might be back solo next week.
[00:42:47] Speaker B: He might be dead solo. Solo. I think the other problem with Taylor Bryan is not even just effort because I think he's just outmatched from A, you just think that he's not very good physicality standpoint. I just think he's just not I think he's a very below average at his position fair.
[00:43:08] Speaker A: Next up on the list of one and dones, we got Jacoby Brissette, because obviously we've got a two.
[00:43:16] Speaker B: He's not going to be the starter next year. No. Are we done having that discussion?
[00:43:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
But I do hope, I think along with the rest of Cleveland, we all hope that he lands on his feet and gets a decent deal somewhere. He definitely earned it with Cleveland this year. I know he's kind of a journeyman quarterback, but he showed that he can still start and win games for somebody.
[00:43:34] Speaker B: Jacoby Brissette is like the one good story that's come out of Cleveland in the that we've been for the last two decades.
Usually these guys come in, they screw everything up, and you're like, can we get this guy out of town fast enough? Jacoby is the first guy that's came in, delivered and exceeded expectations in every sense of the word, and really, the.
[00:43:55] Speaker A: Rest of the team let him down.
[00:43:56] Speaker B: We all feel bad because A, the team let him down, and B, it was just an impossible situation to begin with because he knew there was no future here, but he knew that this was his best shot to put his name out there and get some tape. And I think he's played himself into maybe not a quarterback one role next year, but he's going to get another contract. True.
[00:44:18] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I would agree with that. I think that there's an outside chance he lands somewhere as a starter or at least competing for a starting job.
[00:44:24] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[00:44:26] Speaker A: But at the very least, he earned a solid. People forget quarterbacks get paid a lot, so they don't forget that part of it, but they forget that backups still get paid a decent amount. So I think he played himself into a solid contract for a backup quarterback at the very least.
[00:44:40] Speaker B: And I think this year showed you that there's a lot of questions about quarterbacks in this league still, because a lot of the old guard has maybe taken that step towards either, a, not playing anymore, they could retire, and B, some of them weren't as effective or on good teams even if they played okay.
So they may just end up being moved because of that.
[00:45:05] Speaker A: And talk about just the asset that Jacoby pursette would be for anybody because how many teams in the NFL outside of maybe the 49 Ers, have multiple good quarterbacks, like solid starting quarterback, and.
[00:45:20] Speaker B: Even the roster 49 Ers didn't have enough of them.
[00:45:23] Speaker A: Yeah, everybody got hurt, obviously. But I'm just saying they're probably the only other ones I could think of. Obviously, Jimmy Garoppolo is probably going to be gone and they'll have Trey Lance and Brock Purdy who are both starters. Well, yeah, I think outside of them, who else?
[00:45:36] Speaker B: When you think about quarterback, two solid starters. And, you know, there's 32 NFL teams, there's one quarterback preseason, there's 32.
There's a big difference between the guy who's the 33rd best quarterback in the league and the guy that's the 64th best quarterback in.
[00:45:50] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:45:50] Speaker B: And Jacobi is probably right on that line. You could make better that he's better than some starters, but if he's not a starter, then he's 33.
[00:45:58] Speaker A: The crazy thing about that stat that you just threw out there is how many quarterbacks this year started more than twelve games started twelve games or more for their team this year?
[00:46:11] Speaker B: Probably not very many.
[00:46:12] Speaker A: Twelve?
[00:46:13] Speaker B: Yeah, twelve.
[00:46:15] Speaker A: So you're talking about all these teams having to go to their backups. That's why I'm saying Jacobi is going to get paid, because that's such an asset to have a Jacoby Brissette that can come in and you aren't necessarily worried, like, oh, God, this is our liability now. It can come in and be a.
[00:46:32] Speaker B: Solid starter for, especially on a team kind of like the Browns were this year, where we thought, hey, if we can kind of get through the Muck, we're a playoff team.
[00:46:38] Speaker A: He was like a perfect fit for.
[00:46:39] Speaker B: Us, but we wasted it. But for a team next year, maybe that either has a quarterback that's coming off of injury or just stacked roster behind them that needs that kind of insurance. I mean, you could lose your QB one on a good team and Jacoby could take you into the playoffs.
[00:46:55] Speaker A: Absolutely. And then I'm just going to move on here. We love Jacoby. Hope he lands somewhere and gets paid a little bit here. But the final guy on my one and done list is Ethan Pochick. It's not because of anything negative. Dude played himself into a major payday that the Browns are not going to be willing to pay him.
Especially they're going to have Nick Harris coming back, if I'm not mistaken. So that was technically your starter this year at center, and then Ethan Pochick came in after the fact as the backup.
And so I think Ethan Pochick is going to get paid big time, and I think he's going to go somewhere and be a solid center for somebody else.
[00:47:33] Speaker B: And they've got other options too, because Pochick was really like the third or fourth option, even third, because what's his name?
[00:47:41] Speaker A: We had him retire. Why am I what our center retired after we didn't resign him?
[00:47:55] Speaker B: JC. Treader.
[00:47:56] Speaker A: Yeah, I drew a blank. JC treader. No, but there was resigned and then he retired. I'm done.
[00:48:03] Speaker B: There was somebody else that didn't because Nick Harris got hurt in the preseason during training camp. So there was somebody else that they had slated that then also got hurt, like the week before the season started or something.
[00:48:14] Speaker A: Either way, it doesn't matter.
[00:48:15] Speaker B: But yeah, you're right. Doesn't matter.
[00:48:16] Speaker A: I mean, Ethan Pochick played himself into a big contract.
[00:48:20] Speaker B: I do think that there's still injury concerns with Pochick, and I think he had those coming into Cleveland. That was kind of why no one knew who he was. So I do think maybe there's opportunity for them to try to resign him. Someone's taking you do have to pay someone, right? I mean, we don't have a lot of assets and cap space, but with.
[00:48:41] Speaker A: Everything you just said, you do have.
[00:48:42] Speaker B: To pay some of these guys.
[00:48:44] Speaker A: Everything you just said about injury concerns and those types of things, analytics, which our team is run by, would tell you that he's not the guy that you're paying that money to. So he's somebody else is probably going to pay him.
[00:48:54] Speaker B: Well, again, I think to your point that is he replaceable because what we just talked about, right. If you can find a guy that maybe isn't Ethan Pochick, but is he a solid pass blocker? I don't know.
[00:49:05] Speaker A: Nick Harris.
[00:49:06] Speaker B: Is he a solid pass blocker and is he an okay run blocker? Because I can survive with that.
[00:49:10] Speaker A: It's probably Nick Harris.
[00:49:12] Speaker B: Maybe we haven't seen Nick Harris play. I feel like Nick Harris is one of those guys that it was like not nepotism, but he was just next in line and everybody's just like, yeah, well, Nick Harris obviously will be the center. Sure.
[00:49:27] Speaker A: That's it for the one and done guys, though. That's all that I think are going to be one and done. Chase Winovich taven Bryan Jacoby Brissette and Etha Pochick. To wrap up Brown's Talk here for the week, fun fact, andrew Barry's twin Adam is leaving a finance job to join the NFL and follow in his brother's footsteps. So you think we could have whoever he signs with have a parent trap situation going on? They're just going to trade places? Just trick us all.
Fooled you.
[00:50:00] Speaker B: Pneumonia.
Yeah. Look, I don't know. I mean, bizarre, the state that we find ourselves in with the way that they're pulling talent into front offices at this point because it's kind of like the Drew Carey Show. Like, we just make up the points and nothing really matters, and we're just.
[00:50:19] Speaker A: Like where the points are made up.
[00:50:21] Speaker B: Did you go to Ivy League school? Okay.
[00:50:22] Speaker A: Where everything's made up and the points don't matter. There it is.
[00:50:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:50:26] Speaker A: I mean, it's just pretty crazy that twin brothers are going to be in front offices in the NFL, because even.
[00:50:31] Speaker B: If you're a guy that is supportive of injury, barry and you say, like, oh, the analytics and academia. These guys are really smart.
We tried to swiss brown too. He was also an acclaimed lawyer and very smart. Was in the organization for years. So he had good football background, and he was able to burn this thing, man, I don't know.
[00:50:55] Speaker A: All right, so that'll take us to the Cavaliers.
[00:50:58] Speaker B: The Cavaliers.
[00:51:00] Speaker A: The Cleveland Cavaliers.
You feel like you're in the arena right now?
[00:51:05] Speaker B: I'm at Crump.
[00:51:07] Speaker A: Do you feel like you're in the arena?
[00:51:09] Speaker B: Fire flames burning river sports, guys.
[00:51:12] Speaker A: So the Cavaliers, they find themselves at 31 and 21 right now. They're kind of keeping pace while people are injured. Still fifth in the east, second in the Central.
Continue to struggle on the road. They are, fun fact, the best team in the NBA at home this year.
[00:51:26] Speaker B: I was just going to say 21 and five. They are literally the best team in.
[00:51:30] Speaker A: The NBA at home and on the road. They're ten and 16. It's just wild.
Can arenas be that different? Really? It's the same basketball hoop. It's the same height, the courts all the same size.
It can't be that different.
You played at that level, but you played sports in some pretty high pressure situations.
[00:51:50] Speaker B: I think that it is, actually, because I was actually just listening to them talk about there was a controversy a few weeks ago when they changed the floor because they did like, a throwback floor. And because they did that, they had put the new floor, like, just on the old floor, and so everything was off a little bit. They had readjusted the hoops and stuff, so they write regulation, but they were saying just even in the arena, like.
[00:52:15] Speaker A: Sit on top of the floor, man. So it would have just been the same. But go on.
[00:52:21] Speaker B: Regardless.
I'm just saying, look. Threw them off completely, but their line of sight and things were different. For shooting free throws, all of a sudden you're in the same building, but now the things that you're used to seeing aren't there anymore, so you're like.
[00:52:38] Speaker A: An inch and a half up. So, like, the next chair up in the stands is there is all of.
[00:52:41] Speaker B: A sudden now in your sight line.
And I don't know if that's the same, but I could see that that could be enough to throw you off, maybe in a game where it's a precision approximation game.
[00:52:57] Speaker A: And to be honest, I don't really care.
I was just asking the question, is it really that different? But I guess it is. You've made the argument, and I accept your argument.
[00:53:07] Speaker B: And I do think that they've fallen victim to some back to backs games that sometimes are scheduled losses just because they were on a road trip.
[00:53:17] Speaker A: Well, hell, they play the warriors in a back to back, and the warriors sit their entire team, and we still lose to them.
[00:53:23] Speaker B: Fair. Well, it's also a young team I.
[00:53:30] Speaker A: Think it's kind of funny because around Cleveland, you listen to the radio and you listen to a lot of these fans with the Cavaliers right now, and it is all doom and gloom. They're like, oh, my God, what is going on? We need to make a move. We need to do something. It's like, guys, the whole team hasn't played together but like, ten games this year.
[00:53:46] Speaker B: Yeah, the one thing that did that is a little bit concerning is if you look at their offensive numbers, they're one of the from like a point, just a pure points scored. They're in the bottom, like five of the league.
[00:53:57] Speaker A: They play defense.
[00:53:59] Speaker B: But that's the thing, is they play.
[00:54:00] Speaker A: Defense, have played for a long time.
[00:54:04] Speaker B: They play slow ball. So I know that that sounds concerning on the surface, but the way that they play the game, the pace is dictated by the defense that they play and the offense that they run.
[00:54:19] Speaker A: Guess what? What happens in the NBA playoffs every year? Everybody clamps down, and all of a sudden the points per game go down by like, 20.
[00:54:28] Speaker B: Yeah. So it could be said that the Cavaliers are just already playing playoff basketball.
[00:54:31] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I don't know about that, but yeah, I'm just saying the defensive teams get more defensive in the postseason, so maybe at least style wise, they're playing more like that than a lot of other teams. But anyways, we mentioned last week that Donovan Mitchell went down with a groin strain. Groin. He came back last week but re aggravated the injury and has missed some more games since then. Others are kind of trying to have to step up, and overall, they're just treading water until they can get him healthy. And some of these other guys healthy, I know, like Kevin Love had a back strain or whatever he had, and he just started practicing again. But anyways, some of these other guys have had to step up, and Chetty Osmond was one of those guys. And he had a career high 29 points and tied a career high in that same game, going seven of seven from three. And that was on Sunday, which would have been 129 29 January that he did this. And it was pretty impressive performance by him. And they won that game easily against the Clippers. Granted, you talked about back to backs. The Clippers sat their whole team.
[00:55:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:55:37] Speaker A: So in the process of that game and making all seven of those threes, he passed Booby Gibson for 6th all time on the Cavs three point list, and he's two makes away from tying Jr Smith. So those are some pretty well known names, part of teams that went to championship series.
[00:55:57] Speaker B: It's hard to believe that he's played that many games with the Cavs already.
[00:56:01] Speaker A: You looking ahead to my next.
[00:56:03] Speaker B: No, just from a sheer Amassing stats, my next doesn't seem like Chetty's been here that long.
[00:56:08] Speaker A: Yeah. My next point, though, was what's wild about Chetty passing these guys and specifically Jr. Smith. Jr. Smith is on the list. Like I said, he's sitting at number what did I say? Five. So he passed booby Gibson for six. Yeah. So Jr. Smith sitting at five right now on the Cavs all time. Three points made, list with 585.
Chetty right now has 583 just past Booby Gibson, who had 582.
Booby Gibson played in 397 games for the Cavs.
Chetty Osmond has played in 377 games for the Cavs.
J. R. Smith played in 255 games for the Cavs and made 585 threes.
[00:56:53] Speaker B: Well, Jr is a sharpshooter.
[00:56:56] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, he's just built different, man. Dude just came in, and I remember some of just the most ridiculous threes that he would take on our run to the championship.
And not just the championship year, but, like, those years that we were going to the championship every year. And dude, he would just take the most ridiculous shots and he would make them.
[00:57:16] Speaker B: Jr. Is definitely one of the most fun and engaging sports personalities that we've had in the last several years. Even though you have the really bad finals. Goof up. It is what it is. And then things kind of went sour from there, and he was throwing stupid people in a cafeteria.
That wasn't good. But I think we all remember the good days, right? We remember Shirtless Jr. At the parade.
[00:57:39] Speaker A: He's kind of been forgiven for all that stuff talked about. I mean, people still welcome him back here and like to see him around.
[00:57:46] Speaker B: Incredible that those numbers, though.
[00:57:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
My favorite highlight from Jr. Smith wasn't even a three pointer, a wild three pointer that he, um I don't know if you remember I forget who was the point guard at the time. It might have been Kyrie, but I think it was whoever was coming off the bench for us.
[00:58:03] Speaker B: Delvedova?
[00:58:04] Speaker A: No, it wasn't Delvedova. But anyways, they came down the court and point guard Ali OOPT him, and he caught it. And he was, like, midair spinning and was, like, off balance. And he just did a complete, like, brought it down between his legs, went backwards with it, and dunked and just the most athletic play I think I've ever seen in my life. I was like, I don't even know how that was possible. And he did it. And then you get to looking at some of Jr. Just dunks throughout his career, and they're the most ridiculous things you've ever seen.
[00:58:31] Speaker B: Yeah, he's a flashy guy.
[00:58:33] Speaker A: And then I know he isn't a cavalier anymore, but we mentioned LeBron James, chasing the all time scoring record last week. Currently needs 117 points to get there. We're filming this on January 30, recording this on January 30. So he needs 117 points to get there. And he's projected still to get it on the 9 February in his last five games, 4120-4637. We said it last week. We'll say it again, just so impressive. In your 20th career or 20th career? 20th career. He's had 20 careers. And in your 20th season of your NBA career.
And then also he got robbed this week by the refs, in case anyone didn't catch that.
[00:59:18] Speaker B: Yeah. Real quick about LeBron and the countdown that we're going to just keep doing all the year.
I was just looking, what's LeBron James's career assist number?
[00:59:39] Speaker A: Like 8.7. You're talking about per game or his.
[00:59:42] Speaker B: Total just for a career? Because it's a lot. Okay, 10,000. 10,000 number I was looking for, when you consider the amount of points that he has scored and the fact that he has over 10,000 assists, and you compare that to Kareem Abdul Jabar's numbers and the point total, I think he had like 5600 assists. So this isn't just a guy that was just, like, just chucking up the rock every chance he had, but he has double the amount of the impressive.
[01:00:18] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, he's definitely responsible for far more points. It's not even close. And LeBron has always said he said, this was never on my radar. I'm a pass first guy, which I mean, the numbers actually bear that out.
He's got a lot of assists.
But he did get absolutely robbed by the refs in their game against Boston the other day.
[01:00:41] Speaker B: Yeah, he did.
[01:00:42] Speaker A: And I just wanted to bring that up because it's amazing to me that in year 20, he's consistently not getting calls. I think this is the second or third time this year where he's had a final possession and he's been clearly hacked.
You could screenshot these things and he's clearly hacked.
[01:00:57] Speaker B: I'll put a picture up here.
[01:00:58] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm sure you could find a montage of that. But it's just hacked and doesn't get a call.
They never did that shit to Jordan.
[01:01:07] Speaker B: True.
[01:01:07] Speaker A: Jordan always got his.
[01:01:10] Speaker B: And I know that he got a lot of shit this week about kind of his reaction to getting hacked and not getting the call. And look, you can say what you want about LeBron being a baby, and that's all fine and fair. Like, I've seen enough LeBron flops in my life to where my favorite is.
[01:01:31] Speaker A: When he thinks when he acts like he got poked in the eye when nobody touched him.
[01:01:33] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, it's fair that LeBron has cried wolf a number of times, but this was the one time that I was like, how did that even get missed?
[01:01:42] Speaker A: Well, and all you people that are sitting here complaining about LeBron flopping, if you don't want LeBron to flop, the ref should probably make that call because LeBron flops. Because they don't make that call. So if he would have sold it and fell on the floor in process of the shot, not after complaining about it, maybe he would have got the foul call.
[01:02:01] Speaker B: And I think the other thing that's an interesting wrinkle right now for us here in Ohio is the fact that they've just legalized sports betting.
And so I think there's a lot more money on these games because there wasn't just Ohio that's passed legislation for this. So there's a lot more money on these games and a lot more I don't know what you call them, like commonplace or retail gamblers now that are just putting money on games randomly because they can.
[01:02:26] Speaker A: If you got a gambling problem, call 1800 Gambler, by the way.
[01:02:29] Speaker B: Great. Thank you.
I'm done.
[01:02:33] Speaker A: I got you.
So that's it for the calves, though. We're going to go ahead and talk about the Guardians. Here some terribly sad news for the Guardians this week. Longtime drummer for the team in the Bleachers, John Adams, passed away this morning, actually, January 30, 2023. So he will be missed. He will be remembered. And I think for generations, they will be pumping that bass drum sound into the stadium for everybody to hear.
[01:03:01] Speaker B: Yeah. Certainly a fan favorite.
That was one of those things that just became normal about going to an Indians. Now, Guardians game was, and I will.
[01:03:11] Speaker A: Say this, if you've ever been to an Indians or Guardians game, you know exactly what we're talking about. Whether you're a fan of the team or not, you know exactly what we're talking about.
[01:03:22] Speaker B: It became such a part of the experience.
Just an incredible legacy. This would have been or this was his 50th season as an Indians Guardians fan.
More than 3700 games in his lifetime.
And in August, he was actually the 12th person to be inducted into the team's distinguished hall of Fame for non team members. So, bronze drum and Bleacher seat, they were moved to Heritage Park in his.
[01:03:51] Speaker A: Honor, which is a pretty awesome sculpture. What am I trying to say?
Memorial.
[01:04:01] Speaker B: Memorial. Yeah.
[01:04:03] Speaker A: It's really cool. So check that out if you get a chance.
[01:04:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Just good guy. Seen a lot. Three all star games, eleven playoff series, three World Series and Len Barker's perfect game. So when you think about just a life well lived and doing what you love, this guy was it, man.
[01:04:22] Speaker A: Yeah. So he definitely will be missed this season and every season going forward, but his bass drum will continue to be played over those speakers.
With that being said, spring training does open for the Guardians this month. This coming month, February 17.
[01:04:39] Speaker B: It's already here. I know.
[01:04:41] Speaker A: It's crazy. February 17. Pitchers and catchers report. Everyone else reports for the first full squads workout on February 21. And then the first spring game is against the Reds on February 25. So it's almost time.
[01:04:54] Speaker B: Almost time for the Guardians. My MIM.
[01:04:59] Speaker A: Let's go, guards.
[01:05:00] Speaker B: Mims.
[01:05:04] Speaker A: Sorry, I got excited.
[01:05:05] Speaker B: MIM asked me yesterday. She's asked if she could be a sidekick. When we talk about the guards on the show, she's passionate. She's like, I'm the biggest Indians fan of all time.
[01:05:16] Speaker A: Did you tell her that's not their name anymore. So you can't be that big of a fan.
[01:05:20] Speaker B: She loves her baseball, but I was like, we don't really have sidekicks.
[01:05:26] Speaker A: No. Maybe we'll do a Mom's Day because my mom actually is a huge Guardians fan as well.
[01:05:31] Speaker B: We'll write the outline and let them do the show.
[01:05:34] Speaker A: We could get some views. All right. So don't forget call into the Burning River sportscast, hot take hot take outline.
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[01:06:12] Speaker B: Playoffs. Playoffs. Don't talk about playoffs. You kidding me. Playoffs. I just hope we can win a game.
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[01:07:14] Speaker A: I had something in my throat there that I couldn't get out while I was reading that. All right, up next, we got the NFL Conference championship recap.
All right, so we'll start this thing off with the AFC Championship. You had the Bengals at the Chiefs. This was a good game to watch.
[01:07:38] Speaker B: This was a good game to watch. That's hard hitting analysis.
[01:07:43] Speaker A: This was good.
The Bengals and the Chiefs both played well in this one. And I'm going to call this out right away because I know this was like the hot topic coming out of the game is there were some questionable calls against the Bengals. There was like a clock stoppage, a no holding call. The Chiefs were given an extra down at one point and there was a few more. And I'm no conspiracy guy, but it really seemed like the NFL wanted the Chiefs to go to the Super Bowl here.
[01:08:15] Speaker B: I'll say just like the LeBron thing. I think there's a lot more people with money on the game now than there used to be.
[01:08:19] Speaker A: So I think there's a lot more people paying attention.
[01:08:21] Speaker B: There's a lot more people paying attention. And when things don't go your way, you want a reason.
[01:08:27] Speaker A: So here's the thing, though, and this is why, you know, I'm not a conspiracy guy is they can say that there was bad calls against the Bengals all they want, but really, what cost the Bengals?
No one play ever costs you the game. But what cost them the game?
[01:08:43] Speaker B: Pretty close.
[01:08:44] Speaker A: Yeah, this is about as close as it gets was the final play before the game winning field goal by the Chiefs when the defensive end hit Pat Mahomes while he was going out of bounds for God knows what reason, he knows it was a bad mistake. Oh, yeah.
[01:08:59] Speaker B: I mean, you feel terrible for that guy because he knows it as soon as he did.
[01:09:02] Speaker A: Like, it wasn't even like an Egregious one. Pat Mahomes sold it, but it was.
[01:09:07] Speaker B: Clearly out of bounds.
[01:09:08] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. It was definitely enough for a penalty. You can't hit can't even if you're just shoving a guy, you can't shove him when he's out of bounds. Especially a quarterback. Especially Patrick Mahomes. Especially Patrick Mahomes when he's got a high ankle sprain.
[01:09:20] Speaker B: Yeah, I'll say this. I'll say Patrick Mahomes played like he didn't have a high ankle sprain.
He was phenomenal, except for those few.
[01:09:29] Speaker A: Times that he did take off and run.
[01:09:31] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, he didn't have the same kind of mobility that he had, but it didn't seem to affect him throwing the ball.
So he played phenomenal.
And watching this game, like you said, it was a really was a good game to watch. And it was almost like when you pick a movie on Netflix and you're really into it, and then the whole thing was a dream. It's just like a real terrible ending because we were robbed by onassis or whatever his name was that hit Pat Mahomes out of bounds. Because at that point, that would have been a really long field goal, which they could have still made it. But I think you're talking like it.
[01:10:08] Speaker A: Wasn'T like a 60 63 cold there.
[01:10:11] Speaker B: So it was a long field goal to try.
[01:10:14] Speaker A: And we got robbed of extra football.
[01:10:16] Speaker B: We got robbed of extra football in a game that was a good game, that was back and forth to watch. So I was totally disappointed that we didn't get that overtime because it was a joy to watch. It was a back and forth game.
[01:10:29] Speaker A: Yeah. I'll say this. When the Bengals got the ball with like a minute and a half left and proceeded to go three and out and gave the Chiefs the ball with 30 seconds left, I was like, this is it. They're going to lose. They're going to kick field goal. Those are the times that Patrick Mahomes seems to show up, and against all ODS, he goes just far enough to get you that field goal to win.
[01:10:50] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, look, here's the thing is that the Bengals, for all the conspiracy theorists out there, the Bengals had their moments. They had opportunities to win this game.
And according to our TikTok comments, they have a lot of support. So they had everything going for them.
[01:11:09] Speaker A: We took a big shit on Cincinnati this week in our social medias, and people were not happy about it.
[01:11:15] Speaker B: More on that later.
But yeah, I mean, hit everything going for them. I did find interesting in this game, and probably just because of the caliber of the teams, was that neither team was able to really run the ball well.
[01:11:29] Speaker A: It was almost like they were content with just being like it was just we'll try it a couple of times, but let's just start throwing it.
[01:11:36] Speaker B: Yeah, it was just strength on strength football, which it was like, you guys.
[01:11:38] Speaker A: Are going to throw in it. We're good at throwing.
[01:11:39] Speaker B: Was fun to watch. But I think what was surprising to me was that Joe Mixon got so little work. I mean, he only had eight carries.
[01:11:48] Speaker A: For 19 yards, especially coming off of one of his best games as a Bengal besides the five touchdown explosion earlier this year.
[01:11:56] Speaker B: And I just think in a game like that, where it is strength on strength, like that's the one wrinkle you have that they don't well and you.
[01:12:03] Speaker A: Start controlling the clock. You start yeah, right. You keep Patrick Mahomes off the field.
[01:12:07] Speaker B: Especially once they tied the game up in the second half.
[01:12:10] Speaker A: Zach Taylor. Call Kevin Stefanski before the game.
[01:12:12] Speaker B: Must have. So that's why I still don't really trust Taylor. I know he's going to be in two Super Bowls or no, he's only in one. But I know he went to the Super Bowl last year and then the ACC Championship, but I still don't trust the guy because that seemed OD. But outside of that really good game, pat Mahomes was end.
[01:12:31] Speaker A: In the end, the Bengals lost and are not going to the Super Bowl. We don't care why or how it happened because they play in the AFC.
[01:12:39] Speaker B: North and FM FM.
[01:12:42] Speaker A: So we were both wrong and we couldn't be happier about it.
Oh, man. So that'll take us over to the NFC Championship. 49 ers at Philadelphia Eagles. Look, once Brock Purdy got hurt, this game was pretty much a snooze fest.
Even when they brought in what's his face, the old brown brown's, former great Josh Johnson. Yeah, when they brought in Josh Johnson, he didn't do much, and he went down shortly after with a concussion. And Christian McCaffrey was your quarterback, for God's sake. And he was throwing to you, you know, the Clip in shit Adam Sandler movie. What's that?
[01:13:20] Speaker B: Water boy?
[01:13:21] Speaker A: No, where they're in jail playing football.
[01:13:25] Speaker B: Oh, longest yard.
[01:13:27] Speaker A: Longest yard.
Where he's like, why can't I be quarterback? And he's like, Here, hit me. And he throws away over his head. That was Christian McCaffrey.
Now sit down and shut up.
[01:13:37] Speaker B: The one pass either. I mean, there was nobody.
[01:13:39] Speaker A: He just that's the one I'm talking mean, on top of their quarterback woes when Purdy went down. And Purdy, by the way, came across today complete tear of his UCL. So never good when you tear a CL.
[01:13:53] Speaker B: Never.
[01:13:54] Speaker A: They said that he's looking at a six month recovery.
[01:13:56] Speaker B: You never want that, you know, in real time as you're watching the game and you're like, how bad can you be hurt? It's the NFC championship. And for them to even when he had to come back in the like, they were not going to let him throw the.
[01:14:15] Speaker A: Much. I was already pretty amazed by what Brock Purdy has been able to do this year before this. But after that game, I'm just kind of in awe of that guy that he even went back out on the field, especially knowing today that he had a complete tear of his UCL and he still was like, yeah, I can barely hold the football, but I'm going to go out there and give it a go.
[01:14:33] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, games and for sure and just fortitude by that guy.
[01:14:38] Speaker A: Also, what does that say about Christian McCaffrey? I know he's a phenomenal athlete, but you're that bad that a guy with no arm is better than you.
[01:14:45] Speaker B: And you kind of just feel bad for the 49 ers because they've had.
[01:14:48] Speaker A: They had such a good run and they had a good season, something like that.
[01:14:51] Speaker B: Well, they had a good season. And you literally were down to your third string quarterback that dominated was working. And you get to the final game before the Super Bowl and it's over. I mean, you lose both quarterbacks in that game, go down with injury and you're down to your running back as.
[01:15:08] Speaker A: Your quarterback on top of their woes, on their side of the ball for offense. Jalen Hurts on the other side, did whatever he wanted in this game.
[01:15:17] Speaker B: The Eagles in general, I mean, they ran the ball all over whenever they wanted.
[01:15:23] Speaker A: And to be fair, the 49 ers defense was completely run down because they were literally on the field the entire game.
[01:15:30] Speaker B: Entire game.
[01:15:31] Speaker A: After those quarterbacks were gone, they just were out there all the time.
Eagles went easy 31 to seven. Kenny was right. I was wrong. I didn't see Brock Purdy. And this was Josh Johnson.
[01:15:43] Speaker B: This was a disappointing game to watch because I was looking forward to the matchup.
[01:15:48] Speaker A: I wish this would have been the later game so I could have went to bed earlier.
[01:15:51] Speaker B: Right. I thought this was going to be the better game out of the two. And it just ended up being a snooze fest because of the injuries. So really unfortunate. Congrats to the eagles. Still trash city. Damn.
[01:16:04] Speaker A: Hey, real quick, this just in.
Shirley from Laverne. And Shirley died today.
[01:16:09] Speaker B: Oh, no. That's just another in a long line of celebrities that died this year.
[01:16:14] Speaker A: Name another.
I do this to you every time and it's always terrible, but yeah, another celebrity goes down. That feels bad.
[01:16:25] Speaker B: Feels bad. Anyways, we'll do our Laverne and Shirley tribute next week.
[01:16:29] Speaker A: Yeah. Anyways, updated playoff picture. Here.
[01:16:36] Speaker B: The best segment of the week.
[01:16:38] Speaker A: I was just laughing because you love this segment. So the AFC champs are the Chiefs. This year. The Bengals have been eliminated.
[01:16:46] Speaker B: Eliminated.
[01:16:47] Speaker A: And the NFC champs are the eagles. The 49 ers have been eliminated. So Super Bowl 57, Heinz 57 has been set.
Okay, Chiefs versus Eagles in Glendale, Arizona. Let's go.
[01:17:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
Love Super Bowl. Love Super Bowl week. Even the week leading up to it, just because the pageantry, the interviews, the questions, everything.
[01:17:16] Speaker A: One of the Browns will be there. The most glorious thing of all times.
[01:17:19] Speaker B: It's just everything on ESPN. It's football. 24/7 leading up till the game fair. I love it. So love that. Wish we were there. So that feels bad. But I think this will be a good game.
I will make our predictions and stuff next week. But do you have early thoughts on advantage one way or the other?
[01:17:41] Speaker A: I like the Chiefs.
[01:17:42] Speaker B: Yeah, they've been there before.
[01:17:44] Speaker A: They've been there before.
I know the Eagles are on an impressive run, but I think the Eagles have had a much easier road to get there.
The Chiefs, because they've been up against they had this close game against the Bengals, faced a little bit of adversity with Patrick Mahomes ankle, that type of thing. And they've been there before. Like, you mean I just think experience really does play a part when it comes to Super Bowls.
And I like the and this can't be overstated enough. Patrick Mahomes has two weeks to true, true.
[01:18:18] Speaker B: He also has two weeks to re injure it.
[01:18:21] Speaker A: He'll probably be in a boot the entire two weeks.
[01:18:23] Speaker B: What if he falls down his steps?
[01:18:25] Speaker A: He might.
[01:18:25] Speaker B: What if he's doing a TikTok dance with Brittany and Jackson Mahomes?
[01:18:29] Speaker A: He might, but Jalen Hurts might do a TikTok dance and re injure his shoulder. And then where are we going?
[01:18:33] Speaker B: What if he gets the stanky leg?
[01:18:35] Speaker A: I don't know what that means, but as much as we love the Super Bowl, let's change gears here, and we're going to get our thoughts on the Pro Bowl.
[01:18:47] Speaker B: Does this have its own sounder?
[01:18:49] Speaker A: You put it in all caps.
I figured it was a sounder.
[01:18:53] Speaker B: Oh, okay. I mean, I guess this is like one of those you only have this segment once a year, just the Pro Bowl.
[01:19:00] Speaker A: So no sounder?
[01:19:01] Speaker B: No, we'll do a sounder. All right.
[01:19:02] Speaker A: Sounder. Pro bowl. So yeah. So like Kenny mentioned, the Super Bowl preview will be next week. Right now we're going to talk about the event coming this weekend, which is the Pro Bowl, or as it is now called, the Pro Bowl Games.
So, Kenny, I'm going to let you lead this one. I know that you were our resident guy that learned all about the new formats in all the games that the Pro Bowl has to offer. So I just want to know what you have to say about the Pro Bowl and what's going on there.
[01:19:37] Speaker B: Should we just skip this segment and go home?
I mean, I don't think anybody really cares, but I do have some details that just run through them. This is going to be quick, rapid fire. Clearly, the old probable was a liability for players to engage in. And so this will be our first crack at the new format, as Ronnie stated. Pro bowl games. Question mark. So stupid, because there won't be an actual football game. Well, there will be a flag football game, but even that has its own wrinkles. So real quick, because I think this is of note. Anyway, so we've had the Pro Bowl historically was in Hawaii, which was a nice so much better for a lot of the players. And they moved it to Orlando.
[01:20:25] Speaker A: That's what all the players say, too. They're like, when it was in Hawaii, like, I wanted to go, it's kind.
[01:20:30] Speaker B: Of like something extra to play.
[01:20:34] Speaker A: Is it where is it? This nevada.
[01:20:36] Speaker B: So, yeah, I was going to get there, but you did that's just like.
[01:20:39] Speaker A: It'S just a normal place. I don't want to go there.
[01:20:41] Speaker B: I mean, Las Vegas, though, is exponentially cooler than Orlando.
[01:20:46] Speaker A: That's fair. But it's still, like, somewhere that they could and it's warmer even though they're rich and stuff. They don't just go to Hawaii all the time.
[01:20:53] Speaker B: Well, true. And you would think that as long as we played the Pro Bowl in Hawaii, that the NFL would have heavily invested in that stadium down there. I mean, that was part of the reason that stadium was unsafe for an event that size, that the NFL couldn't have come up with money to help build a new stadium. They could have built, like, a stadium, like InfoCision and act like the NFL.
[01:21:14] Speaker A: Pays for anything on their own.
[01:21:16] Speaker B: That's true.
[01:21:16] Speaker A: They count on the taxpayer.
[01:21:17] Speaker B: You know, it there's no tax base in Hawaii for a new stadium fair.
[01:21:21] Speaker A: But I digress.
[01:21:22] Speaker B: Pro bowl.
[01:21:22] Speaker A: We're talking about the Pro Bowl.
[01:21:23] Speaker B: Yes. The Pro Bowl is in Las Vegas. Or I guess in Paradise, Nevada, technically at the Raiders Allegiance Stadium.
Voting ended on December 21. So Ronnie went through the Browns that are in earlier, but all the rosters are pretty much set now given the conclusion of the Conference Championship games, because there were a number of guys that were in the Pro Bowl that won't be now. Yeah.
[01:21:52] Speaker A: You don't find out who actually is playing until after the Conference Championship games.
[01:21:57] Speaker B: Yeah. Because it's very watered down now that we have alternates and alternates to alternates and alternates to alternates. So not only is it not a prize to go to Hawaii anymore, you're also, like, just the fifth man that was good enough to be available.
[01:22:12] Speaker A: Still counts.
[01:22:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
And the funny thing is, I mean, it does still count for, like, hall of Fame, right?
[01:22:18] Speaker A: Teller, he got one.
[01:22:18] Speaker B: They'll be like, well, he was a.
[01:22:19] Speaker A: Ten time knocking down Wyatt Teller. He should have got one anyways. But he got one.
[01:22:22] Speaker B: He was a ten time Pro Bowler.
[01:22:24] Speaker A: Second year in a row.
[01:22:27] Speaker B: Yeah. So the points are made up and the games don't matter.
But this will be I'm sure the NFL is going to roll out the red carpet for this thing. This will be they're going to make.
[01:22:42] Speaker A: You so excited for the least exciting football game you've ever seen in your whole life.
[01:22:46] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, they're going to be I think it's the second and the fifth.
[01:22:49] Speaker A: I think that the NFL is the only organization that thinks this thing's going to work.
Like everyone else. I talk to people and they're like, it's a flag football game.
[01:23:00] Speaker B: There's more. We're going to get to it in.
[01:23:02] Speaker A: A just, I'm so turned down for this thing.
[01:23:05] Speaker B: But who are the coaches? Let's start with that. Let's start with the fact that Peyton and Eli that part's pretty cool. Are always fun to watch. Are the coaches of these teams.
[01:23:15] Speaker A: That part is pretty cool. But did you see the promo that they cut where they're talking about, this is going to be such an awesome flag football game. Like, this is what they used to play in their backyards when they were younger.
[01:23:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:23:27] Speaker A: Come on.
[01:23:29] Speaker B: Yeah, we can skip this.
[01:23:34] Speaker A: No, keep going.
[01:23:36] Speaker B: Real quick, again, they're going to roll out the red carpet. Herb street is going to be there. McAfee RG three. Marcus Spears, laura Rutledge, ryan Clark Orlovsky Orlovsky is one of those guys that's come on as like, sneaky, funny, and clever over the last couple of years.
[01:23:51] Speaker A: He's coming to his own. I think it took him some time to grow into his role ever since.
[01:23:56] Speaker B: He ran backwards out of the end zone.
[01:23:58] Speaker A: Like, now he's no longer known as Mean. It's still a little bit, but look.
[01:24:04] Speaker B: I like think, uh, I like a lot of his, um but here's where things get interesting. Because this will be a multi day event out in Las Vegas. And it will be a combination of skills competitions and the flag football game that Ronnie keeps dumping on.
And it will have a cumulative score to determine the winner of said Pro Bowl games. So it's not just the game, the Pro Bowl flag football game that matters here. Because the points that you earn in your skills competitions are actually going to be a part of the flag football game on Sunday. So here's how this works.
The winning conference of each skill competition earns three points towards their team's overall score, with total of 24 points available across the eight skills events.
The winning conference from each of the first two flag football games on Sunday will earn six points for their team for a total of. Twelve available points and then points from the skills competitions in the first two flag football games are then added together this is important. Added together and will be the score at the beginning of the third and final flag football game, which will determine the winning conference for the Pro Bowl games.
[01:25:26] Speaker A: Jesus Christ.
Like, talk about taking something that you're going to have trouble getting people interested in anyways. Make it as convoluted as you possibly freaking can and just lose everybody and say, why are we starting? Like, I don't know what the hell the score would be. Why are we starting like eleven to seven?
That's probably not an actual score, but why are we starting with these random scores? Are you kidding me? You just ran through that. And the only reason that I have any idea what's going on is because it's actually written on the screen in front of me. If you would have just said it, I would have been completely lost.
[01:26:04] Speaker B: So the people that are driving in their cars right now, oh, yeah, they're.
[01:26:06] Speaker A: Like, what the hell did that guy.
[01:26:11] Speaker B: Wow.
Okay, let's try to finish this up as quick as possible.
Events in the skills challenge is this.
[01:26:20] Speaker A: One literally called the Epic Pro Bowl Dodgeball presented by Bud Light?
[01:26:25] Speaker B: Yes, that is actually what it's called. So a multi round classic dodgeball tournament.
[01:26:32] Speaker A: That's how you know they're desperate to get you excited when they had to add epic to their title.
[01:26:37] Speaker B: Epic dodgeball, man.
Lightning round. This is like a catching competition. They'll do some different catches, jugged machine and stuff.
Longest drive, you can watch some players play topgolf, I guess. That sounds like a lot of fun.
[01:26:49] Speaker A: This is actually probably going to be the most exciting one of all of them is the long drive, because I know there's some athletes out there on the football field that can just bomb it.
[01:26:59] Speaker B: Here's the thing. I don't think this is going to be that exciting. And you know why? Because these guys aren't.
[01:27:03] Speaker A: There's also a lot of bad golfers.
[01:27:05] Speaker B: These guys aren't golfers. So even the guys that everybody knows, a guy that's like, I can hit it 300. Okay, well, that guy hits it straight about one out of every 300 times. So these guys that are going to be just absolutely annihilating the golf ball are probably never going to have a ball that even lands in whatever their grid is to measure these guys. I mean, hell, if you watch a long drive competition, those guys hit it about half the time.
[01:27:29] Speaker A: They need to just use track, man, and say, wherever this goes, we're measuring it. You could hit it 370 yards that way. I don't care.
[01:27:37] Speaker B: I mean, here's the thing. You. And I like golf. We have a history and we used to work in golf, so I think this is something that is appealing to us. But if you're the casual fan and you don't really watch golf and you don't care about the PGA Tour and live golf and all this stuff. Are you excited to watch four football players play top golf?
[01:27:56] Speaker A: Probably not.
[01:27:57] Speaker B: Probably not. How about this one? This one's going to be super exciting. Precision passing. Presented by EA Sports Madden NFL 23, Mobile. You're just going to watch the mobile version.
[01:28:07] Speaker A: Make sure that you get that in there.
[01:28:09] Speaker B: You're just going to watch a couple of quarterbacks play an accuracy target competition inside of Madden.
[01:28:16] Speaker A: Great.
Wait, did you just say inside of Madden?
[01:28:24] Speaker B: Was it not in madden. I thought it was the Madden 23 competition. I thought they were playing video games.
[01:28:31] Speaker A: No, it's not a video game. It's a real competition. Real quarterback competition. Thrown at targets, moving targets and stuff.
[01:28:35] Speaker B: Well, that's cool, I guess.
[01:28:37] Speaker A: Robotic dummies that are zooming across the field.
[01:28:39] Speaker B: I thought they were digital robotic dummies.
[01:28:41] Speaker A: No, that would have been even funnier. It would have fit better with the overall game so far. But go on.
[01:28:46] Speaker B: Best catch. So I think this is going to now be the NFL's version of the dunk competition. And it's going to extend both days. They're going to have the first round on Thursday and then the final round on Sunday.
[01:28:57] Speaker A: I think I feel like best catch competition, you will get some pretty epic dragging your feet inbounds and some crazy Odell Beckham style catches. But I think you're also going to get a lot of really corny, just dumb ass catches out of this. Like where they're trying to do tricks and stuff and it's just dumb.
[01:29:14] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, how many tricks? I don't know. The dunk contest doesn't really excite me that much anymore because ultimately they're just throwing a ball and hoop. But I digress. So they will have this best catch competition. That will be their dunk competition. They will have a gridiron gauntlet, which is a side by side relay race.
So that should be fun.
[01:29:38] Speaker A: Do the people have to be fast in this? Or will they put somebody like one of these quarterbacks that has like a five flat 40 in this? Are they going to be in it too?
[01:29:45] Speaker B: I don't know exactly. Because this is like a multi component gauntlet where some of it's like a blocking sled or running under obstacles and stuff.
[01:29:55] Speaker A: So exciting.
[01:29:56] Speaker B: They might have like one lineman on each team for pushing the blocking sled. I don't know. And then finally, probably the most exciting game of all.
Oh, wait, sorry, I skipped one move. The change.
[01:30:09] Speaker A: That's not the most exciting.
[01:30:10] Speaker B: That's not it. They're going to pull heavy things cool. Ten yards as quickly as possible. Cool. Using first down chains. That sounds great. This is probably the in terms of just like does this fit the format? Is this something that you would watch? Is KIC TAC toe, very punny.
[01:30:28] Speaker A: I'm actually a fan of this one. This one sounds really cool.
[01:30:30] Speaker B: Where kickers and long snappers will compete in a tic TAC toe competition.
[01:30:35] Speaker A: If I'm not mistaken, because I've seen this elsewhere, it's literally don't they put a tic TAC toe board up in the field goal?
[01:30:43] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:30:44] Speaker A: And then they have to kick it.
[01:30:46] Speaker B: I don't know if it's going to technically be in a field goal post, but yes, that's the general idea, is they're playing a game of tic TAC toe with kicking the ball.
So when you think about just, like, skills competitions in general for these, this one actually kind of makes sense in the old quarterback, you're throwing the ball through the hoops and stuff.
[01:31:03] Speaker A: I missed the good old days when the quarterbacks threw as far as they could.
[01:31:06] Speaker B: That was a good one. I do fear that this gridiron gauntlet is probably to match your terms from earlier. A one and donener here because this sounds like the most dangerous. This is a side by side relay task showcasing strength, speed, and agility. Six players from each conference compete to see who finishes first.
We talked about breakaway walls and climbing over walls, under tables, tire run, blocking, sled.
[01:31:37] Speaker A: One guy busting his head open on a table, and it's like, all right, that one's done.
[01:31:40] Speaker B: Or just the fact that, I don't know, like a non contact.
Can you tear your CL doing with some of these? Like running through tires in a game that doesn't matter to anyone. So I feel like that's a one and donener. But anyway, that's the games. I know. No one cares. Here's the deal.
[01:31:55] Speaker A: I have never been more excited that I cut the cord several years ago, because I don't have to sit there and flip to the sports channels and see this plastered all over it for four straight days.
[01:32:05] Speaker B: I mean, you have to watch it, right?
[01:32:06] Speaker A: Because I'm going to have to watch it because I have a goddamn football podcast.
[01:32:14] Speaker B: Yes, you can't not watch it.
[01:32:15] Speaker A: But I'm just saying, like, if I choose not to, I cannot watch it. I could watch it on my terms. I want to watch sports. And this is all that's on, I guess.
[01:32:24] Speaker B: So what does that do for you?
[01:32:27] Speaker A: Not much. Okay, that was fun.
End of segment. All right, so that'll take us to a much more exciting segment. This is a new one for this week. We're rolling out Troll Patrol.
[01:32:38] Speaker B: You're a funny guy.
Funny how? He's a big boy. He knows what he said. What'd you say? Funny how? I mean, funny like I'm a clown. I amuse you. What do you mean, funny? Funny how? How am I funny?
[01:32:48] Speaker A: All right, so you may be asking yourself, what the hell's Troll Patrol?
[01:32:51] Speaker B: What is Troll Patrol?
[01:32:52] Speaker A: Well, I'll tell you what Troll Patrol is. Troll Patrol is a new segment for us here at the Burning River Sportscast.
And I actually wrote down Kenny, but I'm going to explain it. Basically, what we're doing is we're scouring our social medias. We get pretty good engagement on social media and we just want to highlight some either funny or clever or just good quips out there on all of our socials.
[01:33:18] Speaker B: Yeah, you won't call the goddamn hot take hotline, but you'll call me fat 16 times a day on TikTok.
[01:33:24] Speaker A: So many people think you're fat.
[01:33:25] Speaker B: As if I don't know that I'm overweight. Thank you.
[01:33:29] Speaker A: He's a big guy. So without further ado, I'm going to read these off. Kenny, you chime in and let us know how you felt about them because.
[01:33:37] Speaker B: They'Re mostly people calling me fat. Yeah.
[01:33:40] Speaker A: So number one here, we've got Phantom Luke 66 on TikTok. He commented on a video that we posted just shitting all over the city of Cincinnati. We just dumped on him hard because.
[01:33:53] Speaker B: It'S not a cool place to go, especially Kenny.
[01:33:56] Speaker A: I said I wasn't going to really bash the city, but Kenny was like, no, I am. They're the worst city.
[01:34:00] Speaker B: Look, I've been there several times and it's just a miserable place to go. Anyway, I'm going to double down Phantom Luke 66.
[01:34:09] Speaker A: So his comment, Phantom Luke 66 on TikTok says, wow, Cincinnati is great. I'm not a Bengals fan, but I hope the Bills fall off because of this guy. Kentucky is great, too. Mind you, Kenny was wearing a DeMar Hamlin jersey in the last episode in.
[01:34:23] Speaker B: Tribute to something that we've all agreed is bigger than football.
[01:34:26] Speaker A: Yeah. Supported his charity.
We wanted to make sure that we touched on that and let everybody know that, like you said, bigger than football. So I said that back to him. I told him no Buffalo fans in this clip and he came back with, yeah, but there's a lot of cholesterol, though.
And I just had to give it to him. I just went back to him and said, fair.
[01:34:48] Speaker B: That was definitely the retort of the week.
[01:34:51] Speaker A: Yeah. So that was a pretty good one.
[01:34:53] Speaker B: Good job.
[01:34:54] Speaker A: Phantom Luke 66. Next one up, we've got Straw hat Luffy underscore 91 on TikTok. This might be the best part of our show. Is reading these people's names more entertaining than we are? He commented and said, bro, big mad in a Bills jersey? Who even is this guy? And then Crinkle Cuts came in and said, a nobody. To which I responded, yet you took the time to comment, which is so true. I just don't understand all these people that are like, I don't care about these guys.
[01:35:21] Speaker B: They're nobody.
[01:35:22] Speaker A: What are you doing on our stop.
[01:35:24] Speaker B: Their day and tell us how they feel.
[01:35:26] Speaker A: So straw hat, luffy 91 and crankle cuts. Thanks for the view and thanks for the engagement. We appreciate it.
I thought this one was funny. Bowling Funko on TikTok came in and said it was a typo, but he says it has the best bowling alley for Cincinnati.
[01:35:43] Speaker B: Here's the thing. Can we proofread these tweets or whatever comes out? It have the best bowling alley.
[01:35:48] Speaker A: That's the point.
[01:35:49] Speaker B: You're trying to come at me and you're not even literate.
[01:35:54] Speaker A: Alliteration aside.
No, I wanted to highlight this one because actually, Kenny is a big bowling fan.
[01:36:00] Speaker B: I'm a big bowling fan.
[01:36:02] Speaker A: I thought he would appreciate this comment. Like, a good bowling alley is hard to find nowadays.
[01:36:06] Speaker B: That's true. Bowling Funko and I probably would get along more than bowling funko knows.
[01:36:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
And then next up, we've got I'm going to flip these next two. So rup the Pug 3116 on TikTok said Cleveland is basically Michigan. To which I replied, he spelled Toledo wrong. Because in case this idiot doesn't know, cleveland's way closer. We're nowhere near to Pennsylvania than it is Michigan. Like, we're not even close to a he must have went to field high.
[01:36:36] Speaker B: School and not had geography illiterate and no.
[01:36:39] Speaker A: Yeah, so and then finally we've got Ed Meek. Via Facebook, he told us, don't tell fans they are not fans.
[01:36:47] Speaker B: This is in reaction to us saying you shouldn't root for a division, correct?
[01:36:51] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, because there's a lot of case anyone's living under a rock. There's a lot of Browns fans that were jumping ship and rooting for the Bengals last week. So he said, don't tell fans they are not fans. To which I replied, don't root for division rivals.
He came back with, first of all, I didn't. Second, don't tell me what to do. And third, kiss my ass. To which I replied, Ed Meekser, that's an all day job, bro, and we ain't got the time. So that has been Troll Patrol. These are the comments of the week. We thought they were pretty funny. Keep them coming. We like it when you guys go at us.
[01:37:25] Speaker B: Yeah, this is fun.
[01:37:27] Speaker A: We didn't get into the podcasting and the social media game thinking that nobody was going to take a shot at us.
[01:37:33] Speaker B: Some of you might hate us and truly wish us ill will, but I think for the most part, a lot of this was in good nature and fun. So we picked these out because we thought they were funny.
[01:37:47] Speaker A: Actually, one of my favorite parts, I.
[01:37:48] Speaker B: Appreciate the engagement with anyone that listens to our shows or our clips.
And for all these out there, like I said, just to reiterate, I know I'm fat.
I'm not a Bills fan, but Cincinnati is a trash city and Philly is Scum city as well, because they killed hitchBOT.
[01:38:10] Speaker A: Yeah, I didn't even put that guy in here. Some guy claimed that hitchBOT wasn't yeah.
[01:38:13] Speaker B: He claimed that we were part of the illuminati media because we philly killed hitchBOT. The city that has to grease their light poles because people can't stay off of them after they win a football game.
[01:38:25] Speaker A: Good talk, bro.
[01:38:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:38:28] Speaker A: But yeah, this might be one of my favorite parts about what we do is I just like the interaction. Whether it's good, bad, or indifferent, I just like hearing what people have to say about what we have to say.
[01:38:37] Speaker B: Well, I think at the heart of it, right, this is what this is all about, right, is the human connection that sports brings you. And you're right, this is the fun part, getting to actually interact with somebody outside of your ugly mug.
[01:38:52] Speaker A: I hate talking about terrible.
[01:38:53] Speaker B: It's fun. So appreciate the comments. Thanks for the burns, thanks for the rips. And for those of you that actually respect us and told us we did a good job, we appreciate you, too.
[01:39:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
Going from the Internet to the phone lines, we want to remind you one more time to call the Burning River Sportscast hot. Take a line.
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[01:39:22] Speaker B: We're doing the hot take hotline thing.
[01:39:23] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:39:23] Speaker B: Okay, hotline.
[01:39:25] Speaker A: Just say the number.
[01:39:26] Speaker B: 302-27-8080.
[01:39:31] Speaker A: You have to excuse my friend. He's a little slow.
[01:39:33] Speaker B: Sorry, there was a lot going on. I'm running a lot of machines here.
[01:39:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Call us, though.
[01:39:36] Speaker B: Tell us what people are calling me.
[01:39:38] Speaker A: What are your opinions about the Browns? What are your opinions about the Guardians? What are your opinions about the Calves? What are your opinions about you know, just let us know. We want to know what you have to say.
[01:39:49] Speaker B: Hit me with your diet.
[01:39:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:39:50] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:39:51] Speaker A: Dietitian needed.
[01:39:53] Speaker B: Have a piece of broccoli once in a while, man.
[01:39:57] Speaker A: Anyways, Kenny, what can we expect next week? Because that'll do it for this show.
[01:40:03] Speaker B: 330-2270. No, sorry. Wrong bit. Wrong bit.
So we will watch this atrocity that's going to be the Pro Bowl Games. The Hunger Games.
[01:40:17] Speaker A: Now, that would be exciting. They just had the Hunger Games with the NFL players.
[01:40:24] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:40:25] Speaker A: Now we're talking.
[01:40:26] Speaker B: That would be good. And in order to minimize casualties, just the first one to die loses. Everybody else wins. That's how you win.
[01:40:35] Speaker A: What did you win? Your life.
[01:40:36] Speaker B: Your life. So we will react to the Pro Bowl. Hopefully something funny happens, someone's dong falls out, I don't know, something good.
And then we will wow.
Hopefully my pneumonia goes away by then.
And then we will get into the nitty gritty of the Super Bowl and preview that, break down all the matchups. And we will, of course, bring you the Burning River Rundown, featuring all Browns news, including pending free agent discussions and other local sports news.
Nice.
Thanks.
[01:41:14] Speaker A: I like that. So, on social media, make sure you check us out. Tap in Media is on Facebook and Twitter at the Tap in Media and on Instagram at Tap in Media official and burning river sportscast. That is this podcast.
[01:41:28] Speaker B: I'm awake now.
[01:41:29] Speaker A: We are on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and YouTube at Burning River Sportscast and on Twitter at Burning River Pod.
So go listen to our podcast. You can find it wherever you get your podcasts. Apple Podcasts. Spotify google Podcasts. Amazon Music. Stitcher Pandora iHeartRadio Pocketcast Castro and so many more Kenny, what's it time for?
[01:41:50] Speaker B: It is time for facts. For days.
[01:41:57] Speaker A: What do you got for us?
[01:41:59] Speaker B: Let's let them sounder play.
[01:42:01] Speaker A: We got a sounder for that. Oh, yeah. Very nice.
[01:42:04] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't got nothing today. No facts. No facts.
[01:42:08] Speaker A: That's it?
[01:42:08] Speaker B: Just kidding. I wouldn't leave you all with no facts because that would just be mean.
So who's ready for the first fact?
[01:42:18] Speaker A: Me. Me.
[01:42:20] Speaker B: Nice. Okay.
So the human brain has, boy, an estimated storage capacity of 256 exabytes. That's two and a half billion gigabytes. Basically, that's the equivalent of 1.2 billion average hard drives in your computer, 256 exabytes.
Yet sometimes I'm silent.
[01:42:48] Speaker A: Over here, I'm flabbergasted.
[01:42:49] Speaker B: Sometimes we forget what we had for breakfast, where we're going, when we're driving, and just basic math because there are.
[01:42:56] Speaker A: Glitches in the computer.
[01:42:58] Speaker B: Yeah. So next time your phone isn't working right or your laptop's running slow or it's not working as expected, give it a break. Because we have way more going on in our brains than they do. And we don't get it right most of the time.
[01:43:12] Speaker A: More often than not.
[01:43:14] Speaker B: Speaking of big brains oh, boy, this sounds good. Nick Tage, my favorite actor.
Everybody knows my favorite actor is John Goodman.
[01:43:27] Speaker A: But greatest American actor of all time.
[01:43:30] Speaker B: Nicholas, fight me.
[01:43:33] Speaker A: John Goodman is the greatest American actor of all time. Fight me right now.
[01:43:36] Speaker B: He was Fred Flintstone.
Flintstones. Big lebowski roseanne.
[01:43:42] Speaker A: Arachnophobia.
[01:43:43] Speaker B: Arachnophobia, all the hits.
[01:43:46] Speaker A: Evan Almighty.
[01:43:48] Speaker B: We'll save John Goodman for another day because we could do a whole show on just I could literally do a whole show. In the off season. We might just do a whole John Goodman show. So stay tuned for the John Goodman show. Johnny G fans get whole we'll just do a whole show on our Mount Rushmore of actors.
[01:44:04] Speaker A: Just shut up and give me more facts.
[01:44:05] Speaker B: Led by John Goodman. Nick Cage. Big time actor. Right. He's known to have a proclivity, to spend money on a lot of things in his career, he's been known to buy beach houses, a castle, a bunch of yachts. He's had over 50 cars, a jet, an island.
Those are pretty cool things. But he's also had some uncommon assets.
Like, he's a collector of dinosaur skulls and exotic animals. So he might have, like, a megalodon tooth. Megalodon.
[01:44:46] Speaker A: This just sounds about right for Nicholas Cage, but go on.
[01:44:50] Speaker B: Two king cobras that cost almost $300,000.
But most unique of all, he owned an octopus that he named Cool that he bought for $150,000.
[01:45:08] Speaker A: How did octopi come up again?
[01:45:10] Speaker B: In this and this podcast, he claimed that this octopus, Cool, made him a better actor.
[01:45:19] Speaker A: How so?
[01:45:20] Speaker B: Oh, that's unclear.
[01:45:24] Speaker A: You were baiting me, weren't you? You wanted me to ask the question. Nobody knows. But it made him a better actor.
[01:45:32] Speaker B: I said, look, it's his words, not mine.
[01:45:34] Speaker A: Again, this sounds like something Nick Cage would say.
[01:45:37] Speaker B: He never went into depth or detail.
[01:45:39] Speaker A: Nick Cage, the man of many expressions. Can you do like, just put like four or five pictures of his crazy faces up there.
[01:45:45] Speaker B: I hate montages. They take so much work.
Enjoy the montage.
If you're driving in your car, you'll have to wait for the YouTube clip to hit. All my Nick cages here. You're still going up there.
[01:46:00] Speaker A: You're the one making I said do.
[01:46:03] Speaker B: Four or five all the Nick cages.
[01:46:05] Speaker A: All right, what else you got?
[01:46:06] Speaker B: And then finally, finally this is maybe the most mind blowing fact of the day. Of all days. All your days.
[01:46:19] Speaker A: You've got my attention.
[01:46:21] Speaker B: I'm going to have more than your attention in a minute.
[01:46:23] Speaker A: That sounds sexual.
[01:46:25] Speaker B: The density of the average human being is 985. Okay.
[01:46:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
Metric system.
[01:46:40] Speaker B: Humans are almost entirely what?
[01:46:43] Speaker A: Water.
[01:46:43] Speaker B: Water.
Which has a density of 1000 kg/m³.
[01:46:49] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:46:52] Speaker B: That being said, the average human weighs 62 kg.
So you could technically squeeze about 16 humans into a cubic meter if you mushed them all together.
[01:47:08] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:47:10] Speaker B: So imagine you had a people blender.
[01:47:16] Speaker A: I'd rather not imagine I had a people blender.
[01:47:19] Speaker B: You have a people blend. You have a really big blender. You're just tossing people in.
[01:47:22] Speaker A: You'd be the first to go with you.
[01:47:25] Speaker B: You can toss 16 people in before you make one.
[01:47:27] Speaker A: Can I just toss 16?
[01:47:29] Speaker B: Use in 1. Right, okay. So therefore, if there are 7.88 billion people in the world, you could mathematically squeeze all the people in the entire world into your blender. Into 496,000,000. Sounds like a big number, doesn't it?
[01:47:55] Speaker A: Sounds pretty big.
[01:47:55] Speaker B: Sounds pretty big.
The volume of a sphere, 1000 meters across, 1000 meters is 523,000,000 m³.
So the point of this whole equation is that if you took all the humans on the planet, threw them into a blender, smashed them into a meatball.
[01:48:21] Speaker A: This is getting graphic.
[01:48:22] Speaker B: That meatball would fit, it would literally be a meatball would fit inside of Central Park in New York.
That's roughly it'd have to be a.
[01:48:34] Speaker A: Thousand meters tall, too, though.
[01:48:36] Speaker B: It's a sphere. Yeah. Okay. It's a big meatball.
[01:48:40] Speaker A: I mean, it's still a mind blowing.
[01:48:42] Speaker B: Fact, but relatively, you could fit all of the people in the world, all of them, into basically a pinhead on the Earth's surface.
[01:48:51] Speaker A: It's incredible.
[01:48:54] Speaker B: World's largest meatball.
[01:48:55] Speaker A: If you stood all the people next to each other, isn't the saying for that one, that you can fit them all inside of the state of Texas?
[01:48:59] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, you can. Yeah. You could actually do more than that. You can actually give them a boundary in a place that they could live. Like, you could build them like a small townhouse. Build me a small dog house. Now what I want can do is build me a small dog house. I'm bored by famine.
[01:49:17] Speaker A: I need you to build me small dog house.
[01:49:20] Speaker B: I don't know if I can find that clip.
Maybe Nick Cage has it. But you can actually give everybody a homestead in the state of Texas and there'd be enough room, but most people don't know that. But what's scarier, though, is that a meatball made of humans fits in Central Park. Like, not all of Central Park, just across.
But if you had a meatball made of humans, that would be a problem. And if you're going to be a problem, don't just be a part of the problem. Be the whole damn problem.
[01:49:53] Speaker A: And only you can prevent river fires.
Play the clip.
[01:50:00] Speaker B: Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Okay, a simple wrong would have done just fine, but burning river sports cat, do you know how you tell the story?
No, I don't know. You said it. How do I know? You said I'm funny. Get the zombie playoffs. Don't talk about playoffs. You kidding me. Playoffs? Samsonite, I was way off. I knew it started with an S, though.
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