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It's time. Time for the Burning river sports cast. With camp at the Greenbrier closing, the Browns will bring their talents back to the land to prepare for preseason week. One guess who just got back today? Them wide eyed boys that have been away the boys are back in town.
[00:01:28] Speaker B: Boys are back in town I said.
[00:01:29] Speaker A: The boys are back in town.
[00:01:31] Speaker B: Boys are back in town.
[00:01:33] Speaker A: That's right, the boys are back in Berea, holding fan attached camp days. Not only are we tracking practice and injuries, but a bevy of other Browns news that has Cleveland making headlines. And we'll break it all down for you next on the burning river sportscast.
[00:01:49] Speaker B: Whoo.
A diggity dam.
Yep. And actually you said, we'll get to it in a minute. That's my very next note. Here is sorry.
Why is everything slipped in my mind? Defensive end, are you broken? I glitched.
What an idiot.
[00:02:17] Speaker A: It's about damn time.
There's no reason for a grown adult in America to be a good dahl's Cowboys fan.
[00:02:25] Speaker B: Joe Burrow, by all accounts, is looking very good in camp.
[00:02:28] Speaker A: Disagree. He looks really stupid.
[00:02:31] Speaker B: I think that's still.
[00:02:32] Speaker A: I stink. You stink.
The stinky is mother. Relax.
[00:02:37] Speaker B: That's gonna be cut out. And being the sounders, Rodney stink. He said it himself.
I guess we should address the elephant in the room. This entire podcast, if you're watching the.
[00:02:47] Speaker A: Video version, you're calling me big like an elephant.
[00:02:49] Speaker B: I wasn't, but now I am. Yes, I am absolutely calling you a big elephant.
[00:02:52] Speaker A: Thank you.
[00:02:53] Speaker B: You are correct. Yeah.
[00:02:55] Speaker A: But basically, the day I got my hair cut, I looked like I came out of a vagina.
[00:03:00] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. You look like a newborn.
[00:03:02] Speaker A: I mean, they shaved me down. Too skinny.
[00:03:04] Speaker B: A giant newborn. Like a. I won't throw a poundage out there, but a large, large, large, large garage baby giraffe. Yeah, like a baby elephant. Yeah, like a baby hippopotamus.
[00:03:17] Speaker A: I now have two doves in my life. Big city living in a voodoo woman.
[00:03:22] Speaker B: Named Phyllis Bone says he's at a Jonas Brothers convention. He's actually at home penalizing his wife right now.
I really really? Really?
[00:03:33] Speaker A: Yeah. Whatever that means.
[00:03:34] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know.
[00:03:35] Speaker A: We have to talk about this differently because it's pissing me off, bro.
[00:03:40] Speaker B: Can I talk about what I'm gassed up about?
[00:03:42] Speaker A: Well, no, I'm just saying. I'm saying, seriously, in all the seriousness, you know, I'm gassed up on this.
[00:03:48] Speaker B: Hide your kids. Hide your wives.
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And we're gonna start off like we usually do with the burning river news story of the week.
All right, so last week. Last week we talked about the triathlon. You know, the Olympics are going on. In case anyone doesn't know, the Olympics are happening. So we talked about the triathlon. Athletes dealing with the pollution in the Seine river, right?
[00:06:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:06:43] Speaker B: Well, they have held and are moving forward with the triathlons as planned. And the river is being used, so it's officially a triathlon and not a biathlon.
[00:06:51] Speaker A: That's good news.
[00:06:51] Speaker B: Being called a triathlon.
So that. Yes, that's the good news. The bad news, people are getting very sick after competing in practice.
[00:07:00] Speaker A: I didn't see this one coming.
[00:07:01] Speaker B: Nope. So, first and foremost, Belgium was forced to pull out of the mixed triathlon relay after one of their athletes was hospitalized with an E. Coli infection. Claire Michel. I think that's how you pronounce her last name.
She's 35. She has been sick for the past four days, an illness that has now ruled her out of the race entirely. And so, with Belgium unable to replace her in their four person team, they have been forced to withdraw. And along with Michelle, swiss triathlete Adrian Briffid. Is that how you say that?
He has fallen seriously ill following the men's individual event. According to multiple reports, the Belgian Olympic and Inter federal committee released a statement saying the BoIc and belgian triathlon hope that lessons will be learned for future triathlon competitions.
[00:07:51] Speaker A: Is the lesson not to swim in polluted rivers?
[00:07:54] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, you think so? I hate shitting on the Olympics. Cause I love the Olympics. The Olympics, they get me going.
But France? Come on, man.
[00:08:03] Speaker A: Do better. I mean, they've known for so long that this was happening.
[00:08:06] Speaker B: $1.4 billion or whatever it was. And you didn't think to check the riverbanks?
[00:08:11] Speaker A: Clean the rivers, but not the riverbanks.
What an idiot.
Such an unbelievable story that it doesn't seem real. Yeah, but here we are.
[00:08:21] Speaker B: I mean, the best part is, like, all these news stories are, like, worst fears have been realized. Like, all right, well, if this was a serious concern, what are we doing here?
[00:08:31] Speaker A: We literally knew it was gonna happen. They considered making it a biathlon, and we were like, yeah, just get in there.
[00:08:36] Speaker B: If there was any question, we probably should have just went with it. Like, okay, biathlon this year.
[00:08:40] Speaker A: Just get in there. It's like swimming in the Hudson.
[00:08:43] Speaker B: E. Coli, man. Just like, I can't even imagine how miserable that is in the hospital either. Like, that's like, I can't imagine how.
[00:08:50] Speaker A: Miserable it is swimming in it. It probably just smells like poop.
[00:08:55] Speaker B: You get out, you take like, 14 showers, and you still smell, like, still on. You still smell like a porta potty. Go home.
[00:09:00] Speaker A: Smell like a porta potty.
[00:09:01] Speaker B: Ew. Back to ew.
It's just so bad. Do better, France.
[00:09:07] Speaker A: Do better.
[00:09:09] Speaker B: But with that, let's go ahead and get into the burning river rundown.
All right, so, as you mentioned, the boys are back in town.
[00:09:21] Speaker A: Boys are back in town.
[00:09:22] Speaker B: Boys are back in town.
Hell, yes. The boys are back in Berea for camp after mixed reviews at the greenbrier.
So, I mean, we talked about it last week. There were some issues.
[00:09:35] Speaker A: Yeah. It seems like all in all, like, it was fine. It just, the weather wasn't quite cooperating and some things.
[00:09:39] Speaker B: So that's not usually the word you want to use to describe camp. Nah, fine. No, not, it was fine.
[00:09:45] Speaker A: Not particularly.
[00:09:46] Speaker B: Like, we want it to be a good camp or, like, a great camp or, like, a fantastic camp. Not fine.
[00:09:51] Speaker A: I will say the best news that comes out of any camp is when there aren't, like, a billion injuries. We had a couple things we got to talk about, but, like, the good news is, coming out of the green brown, the team was mostly intact.
[00:10:03] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. The biggest surprise at camp has been the rise of wide receiver Matt Landers, though. So Landers was a late addition to the Browns roster. I think he signed in May, if I'm not mistaken, and he was kind of thought that, you know, we're going to bring this guy in as a camp body, see what he could do, whatever.
[00:10:19] Speaker A: Oh, they're seeing.
[00:10:20] Speaker B: I was going to say instead, this dude's made us, made a huge splash. Reports are that he has over 540 plus yard touchdown receptions from minicamp until now.
So, I mean, we've talked about it. We talked about it last week. I think we even talked about it once in the offseason. The wide receiver room, although there's not a lot of, like, I wouldn't call us like, the most loaded wide receiver room.
[00:10:42] Speaker A: It's a pretty good receiver room.
[00:10:43] Speaker B: Well, I was going to say, but it's got a lot of depth. And so the tail end of that wide receiver room, there's gonna be some big battles. And, I mean, he's making, making a name for himself. He's making a case to be on that roster. Final 53.
[00:10:56] Speaker A: The dude, six'four, 200 pounds, 25 years old, out of Kansas.
[00:11:00] Speaker B: Kansas.
[00:11:01] Speaker A: It's a big frame guy, which actually isn't in high supply. Right. I mean, you have Elijah Moore, Cedric Tillmandeh, and your favorite, the Venus flytrap. None of those guys are like, I.
[00:11:17] Speaker B: Think my boy's gonna. I didn't even put this in the show, but I think my boy's gonna get cut this year.
[00:11:21] Speaker A: None of those guys are necessarily huge. So six four is a good frame. And apparently he's just been catching everything, so.
[00:11:27] Speaker B: And the reason I think if he.
[00:11:28] Speaker A: Was in the river sin he'd catch E. Coli.
[00:11:30] Speaker B: He'd probably get E. Coli.
[00:11:31] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure.
[00:11:33] Speaker B: But the reason why I think my boy, the Venus flytrap is gonna get cut this year is because all reports. But if you're. If they're not talking about Matt Landers right now, they're talking about Cedric Tillman. Cedric Tillman has been a big name in camp. Apparently. He looks like a seasoned veteran out there. He looks, he. There's some places, I think ESPN actually was reporting it, that he looks like he might be like maybe the top receiver of this whole group, which is.
[00:11:58] Speaker A: Wild, what the drafted him for, right. They wanted a guy like that.
But, you know, I think David Bell was always going to kind of be on the outside looking in. He was. He was going to have to really earn it. And to this point, he hasn't had no.
[00:12:11] Speaker B: Yeah, to your point, he was a project when they drafted him. They knew that. They hoped they could develop him and not that he hasn't developed. I mean, he's flashed a couple times, you know, be at this camp, last camp or even in the season, he's flashed a couple, he's made a couple big plays and key moments for the Browns, but overall, it just hasn't come together for him. So probably on the outside looking, there's still time.
[00:12:34] Speaker A: Cuts. Cuts are still almost four weeks away, so true.
[00:12:38] Speaker B: Speaking of camp, Dante Foreman was placed on a backboard and carted off field in an ambulance. And then eventually life flighted to the nearest hospital. This was when they were at the greenbrier.
Now, he did go to the, to the hospital. They said it was due to a direct blow to the head that resulted in neck pain. But to be honest with you, like, this seems more of a straightforward, like, concussion, like maybe like, stinger situation, and it was more precaution than anything.
[00:13:03] Speaker A: Yeah, it sounds like a lot of it is more of a scary scene than anything else, especially being at the greenbrier. You're not like, you know, five minutes from university hospitals, like, if you were in Korea.
[00:13:12] Speaker B: One of those logistical hurdles, one of.
[00:13:14] Speaker A: The fastest way to get into the hospital was to put him on a helicopter.
[00:13:17] Speaker B: And I know we talked about this off air, but it was kind of like, I don't. It probably wasn't necessary. It was probably just the best way to get him to the hospital as quickly as possible for observation.
[00:13:27] Speaker A: Now, that being said, I mean, we always want to treat neck, you know, head and neck injuries with no fun. Not a good thing, deserve, because they can be dangerous, severe. But in this case, it seems like. It seems like hopefully he'll be back in pad soon. It won't be anything. That's too.
[00:13:42] Speaker B: And I know he tweeted out kind of shortly after the incident. He just kind of said, you know, thanks for the support and everything. I'm hoping to be back pretty soon. So, again, it just all points to maybe like a concussion or something like that, which is still, again, serious, but not, you know, we're not having a situation where it may be like a broken neck or something.
[00:14:02] Speaker A: Correct.
[00:14:02] Speaker B: So as for camp this week, the Browns are gearing up for preseason week one matchup on Saturday against the Green Bay packers.
So they did announce the first unofficial, actually, before we get to the unofficial depth chart that they announced for the game, the packers. What are you. What are you looking forward to? You looking to see out of. Out of them at all, anything, honestly.
[00:14:25] Speaker A: Like just being Cleveland, we haven't seen a lot of, like, Jordan Love play. I'd be interested to see if he gets a series or two.
[00:14:32] Speaker B: I was. I was right there with it. That was the main thing, I guess, is he won't.
[00:14:34] Speaker A: I don't know that. I mean, the thing is, is the second half of last year, Jordan Love turned that team into a contender.
[00:14:41] Speaker B: Yeah. So. And they were sold. They gave him. He's got the. Wasn't it the most money now? Is he's like, per year one of them.
[00:14:46] Speaker A: Yeah, he's got. Yeah. Some ridiculous 53 or $54 million a year. So.
So, yeah, I mean, that's the big thing is, like, is that guy really worth the money? I I wouldn't have guessed that coming into the season that they were going to give him that much money.
That would have kind of been like them giving Baker that money before. Like they were sure. But it seems like they're all in on Jordan Love. I don't know. I mean, it seems like if he can, you know, cover the, the holes on the defense on that, then, I mean, maybe they got themselves a winner, but that's really the only thing. I mean, we don't, you know, they're an NFC team, so I just, we just don't get to see him very often unless we're playing in primetime.
[00:15:22] Speaker B: I was right there with Jordan Love, though, just the fact of that, that huge contract. And it's funny because I have such a love hate relationship with these quarterback contracts because on one hand I hate them because we always talk about quarterbacks need to stop, but on the other hand, every time there's another big contract, my, what I had said when they first signed to Sean was in like three, four years, everybody's going to think this contract doesn't really look that bad. And it just keeps happening. More and more people are getting paid.
[00:15:51] Speaker A: More because you're going to make more salary caps, going to go up. There were still other circumstances around Sean that made it questionable.
[00:15:58] Speaker B: I mean, that's fair. I'm just saying, like, the money wise, like the fully guaranteed and everything, it.
[00:16:03] Speaker A: Won'T look as, more importantly to me is just like, if Jordan love pans out, what a job that front office has done to just, I mean, you think about the quarterbacks for the last, I mean, go back like 40 years. I mean, you had Brett Farr for like 16, Aaron Rodgers for like 18 or 16, and then Jordan Love could play and like, he could, they could.
[00:16:21] Speaker B: If he pans out for them and he's their quarterback for 15 years, I officially, that's my least favorite team in the NFL.
They get a three quarterback.
[00:16:29] Speaker A: They could have three quarterbacks over the span of like 45 years.
[00:16:32] Speaker B: Over the span of the Browns having like 57. Like fuck them. Like literally fuck them.
[00:16:38] Speaker A: Yeah.
The problem is you have to have a Hall of Famer to start with, right?
[00:16:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:44] Speaker A: Bet. To draft a guy to sit behind a Hall of Famer.
[00:16:46] Speaker B: Yeah.
I hate the packers. You just got me gassed up. Maybe I'll switch what I was going to talk about later with this.
No, the Browns did announce the first unofficial depth chart for this game. Did anything stand out out on that to you?
[00:17:01] Speaker A: Wide receiver room for sure. I mean, the biggest thing that stands out to me is actually like, it looks like a lot of the starters are gonna play.
[00:17:07] Speaker B: That was the number one thing that stood out to me is number of starters that look like they'll get playing.
[00:17:11] Speaker A: Time like this looks like a preview day, one roster more so than it does a preseason game, one roster, besides.
[00:17:19] Speaker B: Some weird peculiarities where it's like, unless.
[00:17:22] Speaker A: They'Re just literally gonna put all the starters out for the first series and let them play a series and then go away because, yeah, I mean, pretty much across the board like this, the starters are playing. So.
So we'll see outside of that, I mean, not a lot of big surprises here. I mean, I think the, we talked a little bit about the like, defensive line and how that's starting to stack up. So you see guys like Chris Williams kind of on the outside look again. Looks like the front four that they're going to go with with are probably Shelby Harris, Dalvin, Tomlinson, Mohurst, and Quentin Jefferson. Right now, Michael obviously is young, so he'll get playing time at some point here. But then Juan Briggs, obviously another rookie that we'll see what happens with him.
And then let's see, even on the defensive end side of things, which we'll get to in a minute, but looks like they have Isaiah Thomas, Isaiah McGuire and Jeremiah Martin kind of bringing up the rear there. So a lot of depth was on this line, but we weren't sure kind of who, how it was going to shake out. So those are the big things to me.
[00:18:31] Speaker B: Yep. And actually the. You said we'll get to it in a minute. That's, that's my very next note. Here is.
Sorry, why is everything slipped my mind. Defensive end, are you broken? I glitched Zidarius Smith.
He was carted off the field with a knee injury. They're listing it as a knee contusion now, but anytime you get carted off the field with a knee injury, that's pretty scary. That happened today?
Monday, August 5. Right. It can't but happen today.
And so we have yet to see what's going to happen with that. I'm sure by the time our podcast comes out on Thursday we'll know and hopefully it is just a neat contusion.
[00:19:13] Speaker A: Yeah, and I know that. I mean, the Browns posted an article just yesterday that was like Zidarius 10th year. He's bringing the juice like he's, he's, you know, all in and feeling great and all this stuff. So, so would be a big loss for them if he's to miss any significant time.
[00:19:28] Speaker B: 4 hours later, carted off the field.
[00:19:30] Speaker A: With an Ekan carted off the field.
I do look like that. I do like that. It looks like Devin Bush is healthy and ready to go. So they have him penciled in as a starter for this weekend.
And really, the backfield, the defensive backfield kind of played out like I think we had imagined. I mean, obviously Greg Newsome's out with the knee surgery right now, but, you know, delpit Ward, martin, Emerson, those guys.
[00:19:53] Speaker B: But it's like we always say, like, you get to this point in the preseason and now it's just getting through the preseason games without serious injuries. Like, that's the name of the game at this point.
[00:20:03] Speaker A: I'm interested in this. Kalief. Hi, alasi kid as a corner, just like I keep hearing his name and I heard it for two years and I just. I don't know that he's even gonna make the team. I'm real curious about that guy. But outside of that, nothing's really significant, I guess, unless you were to look at the fact that they have Pierre strong penciled in right now. Starting kick return. That's interesting.
[00:20:27] Speaker B: We'll get to kick returners in a minute.
[00:20:28] Speaker A: Pierre and Jerome right now is the starting kick returners and James Prochet is the starting pointer.
[00:20:33] Speaker B: Yep. So that was. That was actually my next point here. So, you know, with the new kickoff rules, we knew that it'd be kind of experimental. They're trying to figure out who can handle the kickoffs the best and who kind of fits in that position and gives us the most dynamic playmaker back there with the new rules. So all these guys have taken reps at returning kicks during camp.
Pierre Strong. Strong. James Prochet, John Kelly, Jerome Ford, Jalen Darden, Jamari Thrash and Amari and Brown. So of those, I mean, who do you think is. You know, we mentioned Pierre Strong and James Prochet, I think you said were the two listed at returning kicks and punts, respectively, currently. But who sticks out to you in that group?
[00:21:16] Speaker A: Well, I mean, from a punt, you know, James Prochet returned them last year and was basically all we were wanting out of someone was to be able to make a fair catch.
[00:21:24] Speaker B: Please don't put any of the other guys that you tried last year back there.
[00:21:29] Speaker A: I mean, which was a huge upgrade over having Donald people's Jones do it. But look, I know, we know Pierre Strong's a burner. They've got some other guys here with speed, Jamari Thrash, Amari on Brown, that I'm hoping that maybe they get some more reps. I would love to see Amarian Brown make this team with his speed out.
[00:21:49] Speaker B: Of wide receiver depth. That's what we talked about.
[00:21:51] Speaker A: It's really interesting. It's like they're all running backs and wide receivers. So the Browns are actively begging one of these groups to step up to be like, who's going to get the extra guy?
I'm interested in the fact that there's no defensive backs on this list just because most defensive backs have some experience returning kicks. So the fact that they have, like, limited this to running backs, wide receivers tells you they think they have all the speed and skill they need in that group. Like I said, that they just want one of those guys to step up so they can put them on a roster spot. But, but also, none of these guys are like game breakers, at least as far as we know.
[00:22:26] Speaker B: No, and I will say this, one of the names that sticks out to me here is actually Jerome Ford. I, because I know that your day.
[00:22:32] Speaker A: One starter probably, well, that, but I.
[00:22:35] Speaker B: Also know that he did do, if I'm not mistaken, he did return some kicks last year at some point throughout the season in our ever revolving door of kick returners.
But the fact that he's included in this group kind of tells you they.
[00:22:50] Speaker A: May be looking just way to keep him on the team.
[00:22:52] Speaker B: Yeah, and I've been saying pretty much all offseason, I think Jerome Ford might be a cut candidate this year. And to me, this points that direction. This points like, do something to make the team, please.
[00:23:04] Speaker A: Well, in fact, the Piers, they're with him. I mean, you know, Pierce got more speed than drone Ford, so it'll be interesting to see. I mean, and they also have that rookie in, Aiden Robbins, that's hanging out. So it's a busy, crowded running back room. I mean, the good news for those guys right now is that technically, Nick Chubb's not around.
[00:23:22] Speaker B: Yep. Although Nick Chubb news this week, it's been reported that he should be activated sometime this week and there's a possibility that he could play in the first three weeks of the season.
[00:23:33] Speaker A: See, as much as I'm excited about that now, I'm also kind of afraid because now I almost feel like, are we rushing, rushing it back? And I would rather have a healthy Nick Chubb come in twelve weeks instead of having the potential of like a disastrous injury early on.
[00:23:52] Speaker B: Yeah, I will say a lot of the reports have said, you know, temper your expectations, even though it's this transactional move has happened and it clears the way for him to return in the first three weeks.
A lot of people that have seen him actually running and cutting, and there's actually some, some doctors, you know, sports doctors that are on social media that are pretty popular. They've said that given the fact that he just started doing, you know, directional cuts and things like that this past week, they said based off of that and the normal timeline of recovery, they predict, for what it's worth, I mean, this isn't gospel or anything, but they predict week six to eight for his.
[00:24:30] Speaker A: Return should make sense. So, yeah, I just take that for what it is. We gotta be careful. The thing. The thing that works against us here is that, like, like you just mentioned, like, that's the normal course of recovery. Well, Nick Chubb's not normal.
[00:24:41] Speaker B: I was gonna say Nick Chubb's a freak.
[00:24:43] Speaker A: So. So you kind of throw those parameters out the window and, look, if Nick Chubb says before week one, I'm 100% I'm ready to go, then, hey, by all means, let's, let's. Let's do the damn thing. But, um.
But I also just hold my breath.
[00:25:00] Speaker B: I just. All I know is if he's out there week one, I'm gonna be full chubb.
[00:25:03] Speaker A: I mean, it's gonna be. I'm gonna be lit, that's for sure.
[00:25:04] Speaker B: I'm gonna be so full chub for Chubb.
[00:25:05] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:25:07] Speaker B: Call a doctor. I. It's lasting longer than 4 hours.
[00:25:09] Speaker A: Yeah. The Browns game lasts almost exactly 4 hours.
[00:25:12] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But next up here, for the third season in a row, the Browns midfield logo vote is back. I know this is your favorite time of year.
[00:25:22] Speaker A: You love this stupid.
[00:25:23] Speaker B: You love it.
So here's the options we have this year. So what has it been the last year? The first year it was the elf.
[00:25:30] Speaker A: Been brownie out the last two years?
[00:25:32] Speaker B: Did brownie win it again last year? I thought they went back to the helmet last year.
[00:25:36] Speaker A: No, brownie elf. Yeah.
[00:25:38] Speaker B: Okay, so brownie the elf has been at midfield for the past two years. This year, we have. First off, we have brownie the elf at midfield again with the helmet in the end zone. Zone. Or we have the helmet at midfield with brownie the elf in the end zone. Or the last option is the dog logo at midfield with the helmet in the end zone. So let's. Let's just start with you, Ken. It's just me and you this week. Bone can give us. We could touch on this next week if we want to, or bone's at.
[00:26:03] Speaker A: A Jonas Brothers event.
[00:26:04] Speaker B: Yeah, he's. He's really enjoying Jonas Brothers, so he's.
[00:26:09] Speaker A: The biggest Jonas Brothers fan.
[00:26:10] Speaker B: Yeah. So, I mean, of these three, what are you going with?
[00:26:14] Speaker A: Look, it just makes me angry. Cause they're gonna pick the stupid dog.
[00:26:20] Speaker B: Is that why it's back on there again, is cause they really wanna get this dog on midfield?
[00:26:23] Speaker A: Yeah, I like the elf. The elf is classic. The elf is different from.
I mean, let's be honest, the browns have the worst logo in pro sports.
[00:26:32] Speaker B: The helmet.
[00:26:33] Speaker A: It's literally our helmet. I love it.
[00:26:36] Speaker B: I love it.
[00:26:36] Speaker A: I would love for them to go with the football with a b in it, like they were for the Butch Davis era for like a year. Just something different. I hate the dog logo. So for me, it's the elf going.
[00:26:49] Speaker B: With the elf at midfield. I'm going to go with the helmet at midfield. I actually love the helmet logo because it's such a. At this point, since everybody, you know, it was like, in the nineties or whenever it was, everybody was a helmet logo and then everybody went away with it to their primary logos and the browns kept it, like, I don't know, it's just iconic now. Everybody knows the orange helmet, so I actually love the helmet.
I'm going helmet in midfield. I like the elf in the end zone is kind of just a nod to that. To where? Cause I've always been a fan of brownie the elf. I thought it was a cool piece of history for the browns. So I like that nod in the end zone. Even though the dog logo is the logo I picked, I don't want that at midfield.
[00:27:26] Speaker A: I will say the logo with the face mask being changed back to white is better because someone had pointed out somewhere along the line that the browns helmet with the brown face mask looks like a bunny rabbit pushing a shopping cart.
[00:27:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:44] Speaker A: And it. I really can't unsee it now. So at least with the white, it.
[00:27:48] Speaker B: Doesn'T look as much like, differentiates it a little bit.
[00:27:50] Speaker A: Yeah, it's more like a helmet. Again, that's fair.
[00:27:52] Speaker B: That's fair. All right, so, yeah, I mean, I don't know, you're. I am glad that we don't look like bunny rabbit pushing a shop as much anymore, but I do love that the helmet.
[00:28:03] Speaker A: I mean, especially, like, when you get to the primetime games and they, like, cut off, like, the back portion of, like, the helmet. Like, because it's just like, it doesn't all fit in the screen in the bottom ticker that.
[00:28:13] Speaker B: I know exactly what you're talking about. That does look like a bunny rabbit. Like, why is this bunny rabbit pushing a shopping cart playing a football game.
[00:28:19] Speaker A: But I'm more annoyed that they're gonna keep pushing this dog logo on us and it's gonna end up in midfield, and it's just gotta hate it.
[00:28:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree with that. I don't hate it like you hate it. I just don't want it at midfield. I agree with that part.
[00:28:32] Speaker A: If they were to put the old dog logo at midfield, I would be stoked.
[00:28:36] Speaker B: I will say that as much as I, you know, that the current dog logo, that is the one I voted for out of the two finalists, it wasn't my favorite. Overall is my favorite out of the two finalists.
We said this way back when, they should have just went with the original one and updated the colors and caught it a day.
[00:28:52] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:28:52] Speaker B: And I guess it wasn't the original as the second iteration. The original one was that old, like, just outline the one that they've used.
[00:28:58] Speaker A: For, like, 40 years.
[00:28:59] Speaker B: Yeah, that's the one. They should have went with the original, like, shadow on the side of the face, bulldog looking thing, the one they've used.
[00:29:06] Speaker A: It's like the actual dog pound was incorporated.
[00:29:07] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:29:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
Cause that's dope ass.
[00:29:11] Speaker A: Yeah. It's one of the best logos in all sports.
[00:29:13] Speaker B: We don't use it.
[00:29:14] Speaker A: We don't use it.
[00:29:15] Speaker B: It doesn't exist anymore.
[00:29:16] Speaker A: Looking in gift horse in the mouth.
[00:29:18] Speaker B: The only way it exists is for the browns to copyright it and say, you can't use it.
[00:29:21] Speaker A: That's true. If you try to use it, they will electrocute you.
[00:29:24] Speaker B: Whoa. I didn't think it was that far. But speaking of the field, though, this hair. Not that.
Speaking of the field, though, the city of Cleveland has made their offer to keep the browns downtown.
[00:29:38] Speaker A: It's about damn time.
[00:29:40] Speaker B: And so this offer includes $367 million in tax revenues over a 30 year lease term with a five year renewal option. 227 million of those taxes would come from increases in admission taxes, 120 million from Cuyahoga county sin taxes, taxes on alcohol and cigarettes, and 20 million.
[00:29:58] Speaker A: And gambling is included in that now as well, with the casino downtown.
[00:30:02] Speaker B: All right, well, so we'll include that and then 20 million in existing stadium capital reserves.
They will also give the revenue from the parking will go back to the Browns. Now, the city will turn the city owned Willard garage and munilot over to the Browns for their exclusive use on game and event days. That is expected to generate $94 million for capital repairs and improvements. And then here's the final one, which makes me laugh every time I read it. The rent has been waived. Under the current lease, the city covers $1.3 million in annual property taxes and insurance, while the Browns pay $250,000 in rent. So 1.3 million for the city, $250,000 for the team. Under the new lease, the city would waive the Browns rent so they don't have to pay $250,000, but the team would be responsible for insurance and tax payments. So you don't have to pay $250,000, but now you have to pay $1.3 million in taxes and insurance. Now, I will say this, this does align the Browns with the other major sports teams in Cleveland, the Cavaliers and the Guardians, as far as the terms of their lease.
But still, like, just to throw that, like, oh, by the way, we're redoing this part, so you have to pay more.
Yeah, like, what's the point of including that? So I guess with, with all of that kind of explained and what's coming out of that $367 million in tax revenue news over the least term, what are your thoughts on this?
[00:31:28] Speaker A: So I think the one thing that's kind of missing here from our breakdown is that the city is still saying they're committed to developing the lakefront.
[00:31:35] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. And that came out about a week. The renderings for that came out a few days later. As far as what their plans for developing the lakefront are, and they. They claim in this thing, regardless of if the Browns stay or not, that is their plans for the lakefront, which. Good luck developing that lakefront where the Brown stadium is without the Brown stadium. Stadium.
[00:31:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
It also seemed like that proposal had less specificity to it than the one for keeping the stadium.
[00:32:01] Speaker B: So there's a lot of question marks on it.
[00:32:03] Speaker A: Like, what if every other redevelopment plan for the lakefront that we've heard literally my entire lifetime?
So, look, I think good on the city for finally putting a proposal forward, because I think most of us have just become resigned to the fact that the city wasn't going to do anything and they were just going to move to Brook park, period.
Look, it's a nice offer. I don't think it's going to matter to the Haslams one bit. This is three $400 million of a project that's, even if they don't put, you know, rebuild a dome stadium there, it's still going to be upwards of a billion dollars in investment.
[00:32:42] Speaker B: And to be clear, it's basically been decided that this project just includes renovations to the current stadium. It is not. There is no dome. No, you know, anything like that? It's renovation.
[00:32:53] Speaker A: The existing stadium with no. No retractable dome, no anything which, look, I'm not totally against, like, having the stadium downtown. I think that's cool. I'm not against having the football being played in the elements. I think that that softball should be played.
I just have had my eyes open this year when I went to St. Louis and saw how cool that facility was with. With all the games.
[00:33:16] Speaker B: Comfortable.
[00:33:17] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Leisure and comforts that's around the stadium that. If you had that in Brook Park, I mean, wow, just what an experience you could go there for. You could use it for way more than Brown's games. People would be there all the time. It would just be a little brown's village. And I just think this is too little, too late from the city of Cleveland. It's not.
If it was double that, if you were saying the city was, then that's significant.
[00:33:41] Speaker B: I think the Browns would go for.
[00:33:42] Speaker A: 800 million of the, you know, 1.2 or $1.4 billion it's probably going to take to revive to revamp that stadium. Then I think you're probably talking, but this just to me, is too little, too late. It's again, dude, in the city of Cleveland for finally putting something together, being.
[00:33:59] Speaker B: In sales and dealing with customers that are constantly pricing you out. You know what this seems like to me, column fodder. Like, this is like, we threw this out there because we wanted it to be known like we were a player, but it's not a serious offer. Like, we don't expect you to bite on it. We just want it to. We want the optics to be good for us.
[00:34:19] Speaker A: And they were losing the pr battle on this. Oh, they had to come up with something, which, again, like, turning this demuni lod and stuff over to the kids, the Haslams. Like, that's all good and well and good, but, like, I just still don't think it's enough.
[00:34:31] Speaker B: No.
[00:34:32] Speaker A: And I mean, let's be honest, too. Like, what are the haslams gonna do at the Muni lot?
They're not gonna do it. It's just gonna be. Still be the muni lot. Right. So unless this.
[00:34:43] Speaker B: The only thing I think would come of that is, is there'd be more of, like, a game day like, event over there. Like, they'd probably have.
[00:34:49] Speaker A: Maybe they put a stadium in and have live bands play.
[00:34:52] Speaker B: Like, that's right. Like, up on the front of the. When you're. When you're walking. You know how when you walk from the munilot over to the stadium, like, that front end of it, they develop something down there to where it's, like, more of an event. But even then, like, maybe you get.
[00:35:03] Speaker A: One or two semi permanent buildings for hot dogs and things out there. But. But in reality, like, not a lot is changing.
[00:35:10] Speaker B: You know what also happens? All the rules around alcohol, the rules around everything else get much stricter, because the browns are probably gonna wanna control that. They're gonna wanna. They want a piece of that revenue.
[00:35:20] Speaker A: Yeah. All of a sudden, you're on private property.
[00:35:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:23] Speaker A: So that's interesting. Which, which, if they move it to Brook park, would be the same.
[00:35:28] Speaker B: Fair.
[00:35:28] Speaker A: So fair.
[00:35:29] Speaker B: It's a fair point. But I'm just saying, for all these people that are like, yeah, the Muni lot stays. Da da. Like, okay, but it's not gonna be the Muni lot that you remember. So I just say for anybody that's.
[00:35:38] Speaker A: On a fence here, like, make the day trip to St. Louis, just.
[00:35:42] Speaker B: Or google it, or really any of these other newer stadiums that have really redone everything and kind of made it a village, because it is a year.
[00:35:51] Speaker A: It's a year long open establishment. There are bars, museums, arcades, games, things. There's just stuff to do. There's outdoor space. I mean, it's. It's incredible. So.
And I would have. I would, you know, you say what you want about the Haslams. I can't imagine that they would screw that up if you had the chance to just build your. Your Browns village, like, from the ground up. I mean, look at what they've done. Even over at the. At the hall of fame. I mean, if it was similar to that. Right. We just had dinner over at Shula's in the hall of fame village, and it was. It was really neat. Like, I could see, well, just what.
[00:36:23] Speaker B: They'Re developing down there. I mean, there's. They got, like, a water park and all kinds of stuff coming in, so.
[00:36:28] Speaker A: But, like, just even a lot of the shops that they've built still aren't even occupied. But, like, I could just see that, like, having that restaurant a couple. They have a couple restaurants right now, but, like, having, like, shules right there. Like, I could. That place has probably been packed all weekend for hall of fame weekend.
People just, like, sitting out on the.
[00:36:46] Speaker B: Pad and I'm not even saying put a water park up in Cleveland. I'm just saying, like, the options that you have to do whatever you want with your village.
[00:36:53] Speaker A: Well, the thing is, is it wouldn't hurt them to not put a water park. But you could put a couple of kiddie rides up and a tilt a whirl, and, like, that stuff would get accessed all the time.
[00:37:01] Speaker B: Yeah. And, you know, one of the funniest things I've heard throughout this whole thing is all these people talking about how if you do it over in Brook park, it's just gonna be a parking lot on game days. Like, you're not. Their traffic's gonna be terrible. Parking is gonna be a nightmare. All this stuff, and it's like, have you been to a brown game?
Like, that's what it is.
[00:37:21] Speaker A: Especially leaving a Browns game.
[00:37:22] Speaker B: Yeah, like, that's what it is now. So what would be the difference?
[00:37:25] Speaker A: It's true. Like, if you go downtown and try to uber to Brown Stadium around game time, around noon, I mean, good luck getting within 25 blocks of the stadium. Can't do it. You can't even get to the stadium, so. And if you're going to the muni lot, you better be there at six or seven when they open.
[00:37:40] Speaker B: If you're not leaving the game early, you're gonna be in the muni, sitting.
[00:37:44] Speaker A: In a meeting lot. And even if you're not a meal, you're still in the back roads. You're on with 90 or whatever's over there. I mean, it's a disaster.
[00:37:50] Speaker B: So it's terrible.
[00:37:51] Speaker A: I think there's way more ways in and out of Brook park that people will find that it will. Traffic scenarios.
[00:37:59] Speaker B: It's like, people don't understand the fact that they will probably be consulting with, like, traffic experts and things like that, like, to develop this thing to make sure, okay, this road currently goes here, but we're actually going to build this and reroute it all the way over here on game days.
[00:38:12] Speaker A: So my guess is within ten years, you'd have have two lanes added to either side of Brook Park Road. You know, like.
[00:38:19] Speaker B: And that's, like, bare minimum. Like, there's probably so much more that they would add on to it look.
[00:38:22] Speaker A: Like Orlando, you know, like, just huge lanes back and forth, because they're going to have to accommodate the traffic one way. The other thing is, too, that you have the train runs down through Brook park, which is kind of nice. So depending on where that all ends up, you might be able to just take the train and get relatively close to the new stadium or something.
[00:38:40] Speaker B: Kind of like you do with the current stadium.
[00:38:42] Speaker A: Well, yeah, but it's weird, but just from the new stadium, you got to go. You're basically getting off of the tower at Tower City. And that's a decent walk over this.
[00:38:49] Speaker B: Yeah, well, you have the one. You have the one that's just up top of the munilot, too, that drops off down there.
[00:38:55] Speaker A: True, true. I just. It's still, like, even from the muni lot, though. Like, it's. That's the, like, that's the best walk you can get.
[00:39:02] Speaker B: And let's be honest, unless you're in the stadium parking, which is not as fun of a tailgate. So.
[00:39:07] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, you're not even tailgating if you're doing a stadium. Right. And if you're doing the stadium parking, like, what time are you going? Because again, if you're trying to get down there at noon and parking is stadium, it's almost impossible to get down.
[00:39:17] Speaker B: Any pay of it. All that stuff.
[00:39:19] Speaker A: Yeah, it's terrible.
So, yeah, I just, again, put a. Put a bow on. Like, it's just too little, too late, I think, from the city.
[00:39:30] Speaker B: I think we were all in agreement on the show, right, Brooke? Brook park dome. That's what we're going with.
[00:39:34] Speaker A: I'm ready. Yeah, I'm all in on the Brook park dome.
[00:39:37] Speaker B: Hell, think of this stuff, too. If the haslams fully control it and not like, the city of Cleveland having some say and stuff, like, and they're developing their own village. Like, what kind of collaborations can you do? You mentioned the hall of fame. Like, what kind of collaborations can you do with the hall of fame where it's like, you could create events where it's like northeast Ohio, like, full. Come to our village and then come.
[00:39:56] Speaker A: To our village and things like the draft again. Right. They'd have this huge area to build, like, an amphitheater would be able to.
[00:40:03] Speaker B: Have the Super bowl.
[00:40:04] Speaker A: Yeah, the Super bowl. You have all the events for media week for the Super bowl. It would just be.
[00:40:08] Speaker B: What's the next best thing to have in the browns in the Super bowl? Is to have the Super bowl in Cleveland.
[00:40:12] Speaker A: Sure. Yeah. Look, I mean, that would be huge for this also.
[00:40:16] Speaker B: What? Just, just, I mean, I know the chances are astronomical, but imagine if we did get a super. We built the thing in Brook. In Brook park. We built the dome in Brook park. We did get a Super bowl. And then the Browns made the Super bowl in Cleveland.
[00:40:28] Speaker A: The city would melt.
[00:40:29] Speaker B: The whole universe would melt.
[00:40:31] Speaker A: Yeah. They'd be building a new stadium the next day.
[00:40:33] Speaker B: So I guess maybe we shouldn't do this, but, you know.
[00:40:38] Speaker A: I'm ready for the dome.
Like, I'm just thinking about the walk from the munilot or even from Tower City to the stadium in September, it's hot and muggy and terrible to walk. You'll sweat your every living nuts off on that walk.
Once you get into October and November, it's 30 degrees or 25 degrees and it's freezing. There's no good time.
[00:40:59] Speaker B: Fall is very short lived in Ohio. Even though it's my favorite. You have two weeks favorite time of the year here. It really is. If you're, if it. You happen to be on a, like a, like a road trip during the time when we got great, great weather in Cleveland, like, you're screwed. You come back and like you said, it's 30 degrees and you're like, what the hell are we doing here?
[00:41:17] Speaker A: Best time to be walking around Cleveland is, like, from the end of April through, like, early June.
[00:41:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:41:22] Speaker A: Like, it's a walkable city at that point. The weather's not too crazy.
[00:41:26] Speaker B: Like you said, it's just so short lived in the fall.
[00:41:28] Speaker A: So, yeah, in the fall, you get about two good weeks. So, like, let's. Let's just put people inside. That'll become.
[00:41:34] Speaker B: I'm in. I'm all for it. But next up here, we do have some more somber news. Former Brown Ben Gay died this past week in a car accident in Colorado. He became a fan favorite in the early two thousands, and we're just hoping his family can find comfort in a difficult time here.
[00:41:52] Speaker A: Yeah, Ben Gaelic is a fan favorite.
Had a number of really good, memorable games.
He was in a long term Cleveland Brown by any stretch, but terribly sad news to hear. I mean, he was only, what, 44? I think so.
Just awful.
[00:42:09] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. And then also, we missed it in last week's episode when we came back from our break. But thoughts are with Bernie Kozar and his family as well. He announced recently that he was placed on a liver transplant list as he is being treated by university hospitals with liver failure. They say there's a 90% chance that he will need a new liver. And he also announced that he has Parkinson's disease. So going through a lot, obviously one of the greats for the Cleveland Browns, hoping for better news and for things to turn around for him here.
[00:42:41] Speaker A: And it just seems like, I mean, look, Bernie was a fan favorite while I was here. Had a stellar career as a Cleveland Browns quarterback to this day, still beloved by fans and media alike.
[00:42:52] Speaker B: And don't forget, he went down to Dallas and helped them win a Super bowl.
[00:42:54] Speaker A: Yeah, the other Super bowl ring.
But, like, it just seems like this guy just can't catch a break. You know, it's like his history with the Browns post career has not ever been that great in terms of, like, the relationship between the organization and him.
You know, a lot of people have always wanted him to be involved in some way or another and just, like, never materialized and then finally did, like, in later years and then the gambling.
[00:43:20] Speaker B: Thing, such a, like, technicality that he was fighting now to have his health.
[00:43:25] Speaker A: Failing him, and it's just this guy just can't catch a break. I mean, the one thing I guess he's got going for him is, like, this dude is an absolute fighter. I mean, he's always had some kind of obstacle in his way, and it seems like from just reading what he said about it, that's how he's approaching this again. It's just that, hey, everybody's got problems. This is mine, and I'm going to beat it somehow, some way. And I don't maybe know how that is yet. But, I mean, these are just terrible. I mean, these are things you wouldn't wish on your worst enemy. Things like liver failure, Parkinson's. These are awful, degenerative diseases.
So terribly sad. But, yeah, like you said, prayers, thoughts with Bernie and his family, for sure.
[00:44:02] Speaker B: And I will say I mentioned his time in Dallas there.
Everybody knows the story of Bernie Kozar and Cleveland, diminishing skills, all that stuff, whatever. I am lucky, or I guess, probably unlucky enough, that I grew up with an uncle who was a die hard cowboy fan.
And so I heard a lot about Bernie Kozar. He actually loved Bernie Kozar because it's not a really well known story. The fact that when he went down to Dallas, Troy Aikman went down with a pretty significant injury that year, that they won the Super bowl, and Bernie had to carry him for, like, six games, and I believe he won the first round of the playoffs for him. So, like, without Bernie, they literally, like, they don't win a Super bowl without Bernie, you know? So it's just a fascinating story to catch up on or look into, if you.
[00:44:50] Speaker A: If you haven't heard of before 2024. And I think our society has reached a point where we've become very inclusive. You can be pretty much anything. You can be different.
[00:45:02] Speaker B: I know where this is going.
[00:45:03] Speaker A: Different race, different gender. Hell, you could be a different species if you really wanted to be, like, a furry or something.
But it's still not right to be a Cowboys fan. There's just no excuse for it. There's no reason for a grown adult in America to be, like, a Dallas Cowboys fan.
[00:45:20] Speaker B: Yeah. You got to have something just seriously wrong in your head.
[00:45:23] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:45:24] Speaker B: To make you a Dallas Cowboys fan.
[00:45:25] Speaker A: There's just no excuse for it anymore.
[00:45:28] Speaker B: And they like to say they're America's team and yada, yada, yada. They're America's team because America loves to.
[00:45:33] Speaker A: See them lose their, America's bullshit.
[00:45:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:45:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:45:37] Speaker B: I hate the Cowboys.
[00:45:38] Speaker A: There's just, no, not as much as.
[00:45:39] Speaker B: The packers, though, after I just relived their, their quarterbacks over the past, you know, 40 years. Fuck them.
[00:45:44] Speaker A: We hate them more.
[00:45:45] Speaker B: Yeah, I hate the packers. They're so terrible.
But, yeah. So that'll do it for Brown's news right now. We will. We have a couple other topics we'll get into in the second half of the show. I do want to run around the AFC north real quick. That's a quick run all the way around.
Just, just a couple quick notes for each team. Actually, just one quick note for each team. First of all, we'll start with the Bengals. Joe Burrow, by all accounts, is looking very good in camp.
[00:46:09] Speaker A: Disagree. Really stupid. He has the dumbest terror speaker one.
[00:46:12] Speaker B: Well, yeah, there's that. But analysts, journalists are gushing over him right now. Like, it's all I hear when I turn on, turn on all these big shows.
[00:46:21] Speaker A: They love Joe Burrows so much that, that they ignore the fact that the Bengals made next to no off season moves and laud the offseason that the Bengals had.
[00:46:30] Speaker B: Listen, me and my, me and my uncle at a family party this past week, I may have talked about it on last week's show, I don't remember, but we made a bet that the Browns, I bet dollar 100 that the Browns would finish ahead of the Bengals this season. And according to him, which, this is a whole other problem, when I made this bet, I met regular season finishes better regular season, right?
[00:46:49] Speaker A: Sure.
[00:46:49] Speaker B: He comes back at me after we make the bet, and he says, whoever makes it further in the playoffs wins. And I'm like, well, that wasn't the bet, but sure, I'll go with that, too, because I'm not really worried. I don't think the Bengals are making the playoffs. So hot take there, I guess because most people think the Bengals are going to win the division. I asked him what moves the Bengals made this offseason that makes him so confident. He said, they made a ton of moves, ton of great moves. I said, well, what were they? He said, we shored up our offensive line. And I said, any starters? Well, mostly depth moves. I'm like, that's your, that's your number one that you go to is depth moves on the offensive line, and I'm supposed to be afraid of your team?
[00:47:26] Speaker A: Their biggest move in the offseason was getting rid of Joe Mixon.
So addition by subtraction, I guess.
[00:47:32] Speaker B: I don't, I don't know. I was just like, I mean, the only other thing his claim was now Joe Burrow won't be sacked eight times a game, which is probably a fair assessment, but okay, we also have, what we just talked about is he's coming back from his injury.
You know, AJ Hawk talked on Pat McAfee show about how he had the same injury and he only has, what, 75% mobility and his wrist or whatever it is. And so, and he actually, didn't he show it? Didn't he, like, start turning his wrist? He's like, I can only move it to, like, here and I can move to here.
[00:48:01] Speaker A: And not to mention they've got nothing but drama in that wide receiver room. Yeah, everybody, I'm out. Johnny. Everybody wants more money. You know, get, get in line. We all want more money.
[00:48:12] Speaker B: Yeah. So I don't know. I'm still. Everybody else is high on the Bengals. I think they're finishing, I honestly think they'll finish last in the division this year.
[00:48:19] Speaker A: I think Joe Burrow has the dumbest looking hair.
I don't even have any.
[00:48:23] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll talk about that in just a second.
Next up here. I haven't heard much out of Baltimore. That's literally my note. It's been very quiet, which is actually kind of scary.
[00:48:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:48:34] Speaker B: Because that means nothing bad is happening there. Their offense was already pretty solid.
You know, they have Derek Henry now.
[00:48:42] Speaker A: Their defense just got younger because they lost some key pieces.
[00:48:45] Speaker B: They got younger. But I do, I do think, I think they're going to struggle a lot more than a lot of people think because they don't have the defense they want they once had.
[00:48:54] Speaker A: They've always fielded a good one, though.
[00:48:57] Speaker B: I say struggle more than people think. That's because people think it's going to be them and the Bengals battling for the division. I think they'll finish, finish third.
I still think they finish above 500, probably get a wild card spot, but I think they finished third.
[00:49:10] Speaker A: Is wild, man.
[00:49:10] Speaker B: It is wild. It is wild. So that brings us to the Steelers, obviously, Steelers have Russell Wilson dealing with injuries so far throughout camp, and it's kind of opened the door for Justin Fields. And it's looking like this may actually turn into a full blown quarterback controversy because by all accounts, Justin Fields has taken advantage of every opportunity he's gotten and he's a looked very good in camp. So one of the things, this was.
[00:49:35] Speaker A: Always the fear, right? Is that you knew not my fear, but the fear of having beat both those guys there is that Justin Fields is the new shiny toy. He's way more athletic at this point in his career than, than Russell Wilson is or will ever be again or.
[00:49:49] Speaker B: Will ever be again or honestly probably ever was.
[00:49:52] Speaker A: So he has, he has all the intangibles in. Well, I guess he has all the tangibles. Russell probably has the intangibles, leadership and courage and those things.
[00:50:01] Speaker B: I would question that because they kind of gave up on him in middle of the season in Denver and.
[00:50:07] Speaker A: Well, I'm saying he's supposed to.
[00:50:09] Speaker B: Supposedly on his way out of Seattle, all his teammates just dogged himself.
[00:50:13] Speaker A: Is Russell Wilson a hall of famer when he retires?
[00:50:15] Speaker B: Probably, yes.
[00:50:16] Speaker A: So he has to have intangibles. You don't.
[00:50:18] Speaker B: That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. I get it to you. I love to hate Russell Wilson, so.
[00:50:23] Speaker A: I'm biased, but it's like, what I always say about, like, Eli Manning is people like, Eli's never going to make it. Like, if you look at Eli's numbers, they're better than guys like Kurt Warner that are in the hall of Fame. Fame. And he won two Super Bowls against Tom Brady. Like, you can say all I wanted about the mediocre years he had. He still threw for over 3500 yards in a lot of those years, and he's in New York record books forever. Russell Wilson, same thing. The numbers are as good as they can be. And whether we like him or think he's corny or whatever, I hate Russell Wilson. The dude was a winner for a long time.
[00:50:52] Speaker B: He's washed.
[00:50:54] Speaker A: But anyways, now you open the door to the Steelers and you go, well, you know, hey, we did make a lot of moves. We have this young guy that has a cannon for an arm and is super fast and can do a lot of things that this other guy can't. But we would rather have a veteran presence lead our team. You're really in a pickle because you got to go with one. And it's one of those probably where, like, with whichever one you go with, you're going to be like, should have done the other.
[00:51:20] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, absolutely.
[00:51:22] Speaker A: Good.
[00:51:22] Speaker B: Good position for us to be in. But. But the thing that bothers me is I'm actually much more scared of this offense. With Justin Fields under center than I am with Russell Wilson because I will stand behind. I fully believe that Russell Wilson is washed. I think he can still flash, you know, the talent that was has been there his entire career. I stink. I think that still.
[00:51:42] Speaker A: I stink.
[00:51:46] Speaker B: That's going to be cut out and be on the Sounders. Rodney stinks. He said it himself, but now I think that he still has the ability to flash that in short bursts. But I think overall, Russell Wilson is washed. He's at the tail end of his career. I'm not really scared of him as a quarterback for the Steelers. I'm kind of scared of Justin Fields and what he can do because I'm.
[00:52:10] Speaker A: Terribly afraid of Justin Fields.
[00:52:12] Speaker B: Yeah, he's way more dynamic back there, and there's a lot more to account for when he's under center.
[00:52:16] Speaker A: You can stand behind Russell Wilson. I'm going to stand behind the fact that Justin Fields didn't get a fair shake in since in Chicago.
[00:52:21] Speaker B: That's true. You said the entire time he was there that the best for him is.
[00:52:25] Speaker A: To get out and for him to end up in an organization like the Steelers. Speaking of which, ability and great coaching.
[00:52:30] Speaker B: Yeah. That was exactly what he needed.
[00:52:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:52:33] Speaker B: Speaking of the bears, I can't wait for this whole Caleb Williams disaster to finally blow up in their face. It's gonna be the biggest bus.
[00:52:40] Speaker A: I'm watching all the hall of famer stuff, and they're just talking these guys up like they are already a playoff favorite.
[00:52:45] Speaker B: Oh, my God, I can't wait till he's just the biggest bus.
[00:52:49] Speaker A: I mean, with his painted fingernails and his, like, what's.
[00:52:52] Speaker B: I don't even care about your painted fingernails. Whatever.
[00:52:55] Speaker A: NFL linemen are going to eat that guy up.
[00:52:57] Speaker B: Well, and I just think, like, mid season, you're still the bears. You still aren't very good. You, you, I mean, you, you made some, some moves in the offseason, but not enough to make you a contender in my eyes. And even though half of America has you as, like, one of the top two teams in your division, like, I just, I think he's going to go down as one of the biggest busts. And if, if he doesn't come back at me and, you know, show the receipts and tell me I was an idiot, whatever, but I just got bust.
[00:53:22] Speaker A: Written all over him for all the moves that, like, the bangles didn't make, and we keep hearing they made all these moves like Chicago did, at least make moves to try and put talent around him.
[00:53:32] Speaker B: Yeah, they're trying to build.
[00:53:33] Speaker A: That's like good on them for like trying to do the right thing. They're still the Chicago Bears. Yeah, they're still suck, so still suck. And now you have a quarterback that, yeah, I also don't have a lot of faith in. Now look, if you'd asked me before Patrick Mahomes played it down in the NFL, like, was he going to be the greatest ever, I might have said, I think he could be a good quarterback. I wouldn't have guessed he was going to be the best being a Super bowl every year. So I guess there's always that possibility. Caleb Williams could be like the second coming of a guy like Pat Mahomes.
[00:54:03] Speaker B: Fair.
[00:54:04] Speaker A: But I just don't see it. I don't see it.
[00:54:05] Speaker B: I don't see it.
[00:54:06] Speaker A: Agreed.
[00:54:08] Speaker B: And so I guess while we're talking about the AFC north here, I guess we should address the elephant in the room this entire podcast. If you're watching the video version, you.
[00:54:17] Speaker A: Calling me big like an elephant?
[00:54:19] Speaker B: I wasn't, but now I am. Yes. I am absolutely calling you a big elephant. Thank you. So if you're, if you're watching the video version of this podcast or you caught our video, that probably is, will be out shortly or is out by the time this comes out. Either way, it's any, any day, it's out already. Yeah. Okay, so by the time you're hearing this, it's out. Kenny's bald.
Kenny, our own Kenny thunder is extremely bald. Actually, a lot of your hair has grown back since this happened, which is impressive, but he's bald and his face is completely shaved.
[00:54:50] Speaker A: I've been nursing it.
[00:54:52] Speaker B: So why don't you tell our listeners what happened here?
[00:54:55] Speaker A: Yeah, well, this was my punishment for losing the AFC north king of the north race last year, whereas last season we did the eggs in the mini lot and I was hit with a gross of eggs, which wasn't a lot.
[00:55:08] Speaker B: Of fun, especially since they were half frozen.
[00:55:11] Speaker A: This was also not a lot of fun because this was the hair that had been growing essentially since the end of the pandemic. I, you know, went through all the awkward phases of like, having weirdly long hair and like in a bun at work, in a corporate environment, like trying to do like a.
[00:55:26] Speaker B: You really stuck it out through some.
[00:55:27] Speaker A: Hard times, big boy job and had this like really stupid long gray hair.
But like, it kind of become a part of me, you know, it's like I have long hair for the first time in my life.
[00:55:37] Speaker B: And second time in your life, middle school, your hair was pretty long.
[00:55:42] Speaker A: Well, it wasn't that long.
[00:55:43] Speaker B: No, it wasn't that long, but it was pretty long.
[00:55:45] Speaker A: My hair was almost 20 inches when it was, like, wet out of the shower and straight.
And so anyways, the story goes, red hot Ronnie jams and the bone man showed up at my house this week. Last week.
[00:56:00] Speaker B: We abducted you.
[00:56:01] Speaker A: Abducted me. Put me in a blindfold.
[00:56:03] Speaker B: It was an actual abduction because we had the permission from your wife.
[00:56:06] Speaker A: Shuffled me through town, dropped me off at a hair salon, Lady Jane's and Akron. Shout out to those guys and their crew over there while they took those ladies hair.
They were all very personable and very nice about it. Did a fantastic job making me a bald man.
But as I understand it, this punishment's still not even over.
[00:56:32] Speaker B: It's not.
[00:56:34] Speaker A: So I was told that I'm going to face further repercussions at our live events.
[00:56:40] Speaker B: Oh, you are correct. Yeah. Thank you for reminding me. How did that slip my mind? No. Yeah. So the second half of your punishment.
[00:56:47] Speaker A: Bald.
[00:56:47] Speaker B: Yeah. The second half of your punishment, which we'll talk about this event here shortly. I guess we could talk about it now since we brought it up. Burn ever. Sportscast does have multiple upcoming events. The very next event that we have is a pretty big event coming at the end of August here. Our first of what we hope to be many more season preview parties. So what we're going to start doing is we're hoping to partner with our, which we did this year, we're going to partner with our sponsor, topath Distillery, to have a, um, basically, uh, we're.
[00:57:16] Speaker A: Gonna season preview party.
[00:57:17] Speaker B: Yeah, we're gonna record our show on site at the distillery. Um, we're gonna bring in fans. Uh, we're gonna. We're gonna sell tickets to this thing. Uh, but what's included in it is party admission, front row seats to watch us record our season preview episode meet and greets with former Browns players. This year, it's John Hughes and Frank stams. Uh, meet and greets with, uh, Browns on field Mc Bridget Linton. Uh, autograph sessions with those former Browns players. A distillery tour spirit tastings, all kinds of fun stuff. And obviously, additional food and drink will be available for purchase on site. So, yeah, at that event is the second half of your punishment, which will be Topaz distillery has come out with. I think it's around eight spirits thus far in their lineup. They have their main four, but there's other ancillary products that they've come out with. And youre a job as we're recording our episode will be to take a shot of every single one of them. So you're gonna be pretty lit by the end of. By the end of this episode.
[00:58:20] Speaker A: Black out by the end of this episode. So this time I've done eight shots. Would have been a while ago.
[00:58:26] Speaker B: Yeah. And so needless to say, your wife will be driving that night.
[00:58:29] Speaker A: Yes. Yes. I will not be driving. I'll be driving for three days after this.
[00:58:33] Speaker B: But the main. The main gist of this whole thing is come have a kick ass time with us as we kick off brown season at topath distillery, located in the merchant tavern in the valley of Akron.
[00:58:44] Speaker A: Yes. I will be absolutely lit, so I probably won't remember it, but hopefully you guys all will. Merchant Tavern in Akron. Probably one of the best, nicest, classiest, just best food in greater Akron.
[00:58:57] Speaker B: Maybe say it every time.
My favorite restaurant, great restaurant.
[00:59:02] Speaker A: And then you have to. Path distillery is located right inside there to be able to tour the facilities, how they make the goods.
[00:59:09] Speaker B: And trust me, once you get. Once you have a tasting, you will find a spirit within that lineup. And you're going to say, I'm taking a bottle of this home tonight.
[00:59:15] Speaker A: Oh, they're all delicious.
[00:59:16] Speaker B: They're all fantastic.
[00:59:17] Speaker A: I just never anticipated having to drink all of them at once.
[00:59:20] Speaker B: Well, you're going to.
[00:59:21] Speaker A: Yeah. Thank you.
[00:59:21] Speaker B: So enjoy.
[00:59:23] Speaker A: Well, maybe you'll forget by then, like you forgot this time. No, I'll sneak.
[00:59:26] Speaker B: No, no. This is your fault. You. You brought it up again, and now it's going to be included.
[00:59:31] Speaker A: But basically, the day I got my hair cut, I looked like I came out of vagina.
[00:59:36] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. You look like a newborn.
[00:59:38] Speaker A: I mean, they shaved me down, too.
[00:59:39] Speaker B: A giant newborn. Like a. Like a. Like a. I won't throw a poundage out there, but a large, large, large baby giraffe. Yeah. Like a baby elephant.
[00:59:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:59:51] Speaker B: Baby hippopotamus.
[00:59:52] Speaker A: Baby narwhal.
[00:59:54] Speaker B: Yeah, there's something big.
[00:59:55] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:59:56] Speaker B: Yeah. That's what you looked like.
[00:59:57] Speaker A: Baby blue whale.
[00:59:57] Speaker B: So, yeah. And then another event that we have coming up that we want to just kind of highlight here is we are going to be traveling with true fan track to New Orleans this year.
[01:00:08] Speaker A: Hell, yes.
[01:00:10] Speaker B: So basically, true fan travel, in case you guys don't know who they are, they basically put together all inclusive trips to away games for your favorite NFL team. They are an official travel partner of the Cleveland Browns, and the event that we will be attending includes, it's an optional round trip private charter flight that we will be on a three night stay at Renaissance New Orleans. Peter Marquette French Quarter.
[01:00:37] Speaker A: I don't know if I'm saying it's Pete.
Pete Marquette.
[01:00:42] Speaker B: I don't know. I'm not french.
[01:00:43] Speaker A: Pet Marquette.
[01:00:44] Speaker B: I don't know what french people do.
[01:00:46] Speaker A: They rhyme.
[01:00:47] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know.
[01:00:48] Speaker A: The Marquette family was like, let's name him pet instead of Pete.
[01:00:52] Speaker B: Pete. I thought there was two tees in there at one point, and it got typo'd on this thing. I don't know. Either way, we're staying at the Renaissance in New Orleans.
There's a welcome party. It's an all inclusive cruise down the Mississippi river with the dog pound. That's everybody that's included on the trip. Fan crews Q and a with Kevin Mack. A pep rally the day before all inclusive tailgate, the day of tickets to the game at the Superdome, which is the site of the Super bowl this year.
[01:01:19] Speaker A: Sure is.
[01:01:20] Speaker B: So we might have to make two trips.
[01:01:21] Speaker A: Probably will.
[01:01:22] Speaker B: And then on site trip coordinators to handle any questions or issues that may arise. Not only do they take care of you all during the traveling process, but while you're down there, if anything comes up, they'll help you take care that as well.
[01:01:32] Speaker A: Basically, they're making an away game, a home game with all the comforts of a home game you can go put.
[01:01:40] Speaker B: Away, which means we're gonna get delicious New Orleans food.
[01:01:43] Speaker A: Yes. I've never been in New Orleans, so I am super excited about going to New Orleans. I've always heard good things, but I've never been myself.
[01:01:52] Speaker B: I'm a little scared. I know there's some sketchy. This is any major city. I'm not shitting on the city of New Orleans, but I hear. I listen to a lot of podcasts and a lot of murders down there. There's a lot of bad things that happen down there.
[01:02:03] Speaker A: Yeah. They have weird graveyards.
[01:02:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:02:06] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:02:06] Speaker B: A lot of haunted places in New Orleans.
[01:02:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:02:08] Speaker B: Maybe we should go on a haunted tour one night.
[01:02:10] Speaker A: A lot of voodoo stuff. Like, it's, like, real down there, though.
[01:02:14] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:02:14] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:02:14] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm in.
But this, too, is gonna be a super lit event. We're really pumped to be a part of it. We've, like you said, we've never been to New Orleans, never got to experience the culture down there, and it's very different from a lot of other parts of the US.
[01:02:30] Speaker A: Two loves in my life. Big city living in a voodoo woman named Phyllis.
[01:02:36] Speaker B: Find that sound bite? Hell, yes.
But, yeah. So if you're interested, check the show notes. You'll see the link for the season preview party at the Merchant tavern at Topaz distillery inside the merchant tavern, as well as a link for the trip down to New Orleans. So you can get tickets.
[01:02:54] Speaker A: All you gotta do is click them. Click them. Buy him.
[01:02:57] Speaker B: Get him.
We'll see you there.
But next.
[01:03:01] Speaker A: But anyways, that's why I'm bald.
[01:03:02] Speaker B: That's why you're bald. All of that to say, that's why Kenny's bald. Yes.
But next up, you know, it's time for.
[01:03:08] Speaker A: What is it time for?
[01:03:09] Speaker B: It's time for the hot three.
And so, as. As we talked about last week, the hot three is a new segment this year where we pick a category. Category. And we give our hot three or top three in that category. It's just the hot three. It's not that we don't like top three. No, we like the hot three.
[01:03:31] Speaker A: Everything here is on fire.
[01:03:33] Speaker B: Yes.
We have so many things on fire here.
[01:03:36] Speaker A: Every take of our.
[01:03:37] Speaker B: Eventually, the studio is probably gonna catch on fire.
[01:03:39] Speaker A: I worry about that all the time.
[01:03:40] Speaker B: Yeah, they put. They give us a new electrical box for that.
[01:03:44] Speaker A: Got a lot of lights in here now.
[01:03:45] Speaker B: Yeah. You guys don't know this, but it's hidden behind this Jersey new electrical box. Just for the studio, bro.
[01:03:51] Speaker A: Come on.
[01:03:51] Speaker B: It's back there. That's in case there's a fire, man.
[01:03:55] Speaker A: You can see. Start right there.
[01:03:57] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. If it starts somewhere, it's gonna start.
[01:04:01] Speaker A: Any of our overloaded extension cords or power supplies or.
[01:04:05] Speaker B: Listen, y'all at home would be so amazed by the number of cords that are just running your old outlets. In my basement, it was old knob and tube in here. We said, fuck it. Let's just. Let's just renovate this thing, make it a studio that's a little bit of behind the scenes into burning river sports cast and how we came to be. That's right. Tapping media goes hard.
[01:04:24] Speaker A: So hard.
[01:04:24] Speaker B: But anyways, this is the hot three.
[01:04:27] Speaker A: Hot and hard three.
[01:04:29] Speaker B: From there, from this, I will be posting it on social media as well, every week. And you guys tell us if we got it right, we got it wrong. What we missed, what your hot three is. Basically, we want this to become a fan interactive type of thing.
[01:04:43] Speaker A: Engagement. We'd like to talk with you.
[01:04:45] Speaker B: Exactly. So this week, Olympic events to watch. Ooh.
[01:04:50] Speaker A: Very timely, considering it is the Olympics.
[01:04:52] Speaker B: I think that's why we went with it. Okay, yeah, we'll start with bone, because bone is not here.
[01:04:56] Speaker A: But he boneless.
[01:04:57] Speaker B: He phoned in from the Jonas Brothers concert or whatever. He's at. Bone phoned in the Jonas Brothers convention.
[01:05:03] Speaker A: He boned in.
[01:05:04] Speaker B: He boned in his hot three. And so bone's hot three. Number three. Synchronized diving.
[01:05:11] Speaker A: I do love synchronized diving.
[01:05:13] Speaker B: Synchronized diving is a fun one. Cause it's pretty wild when they get just right.
[01:05:16] Speaker A: It's funny when you break down the Olympic. Because it's funny the things that we find interesting, like he didn't put the individual diving.
[01:05:22] Speaker B: No. Likes the secret.
We want the synchronize.
[01:05:25] Speaker A: Two people doing the same thing at the same time.
[01:05:27] Speaker B: Incredible. One person, way more incredible.
Next up here was actually a surprise for me. He put the 1500 meters. He put sprint. It's actually a race. I wouldn't call it a sprint. I guess they do run pretty fast, but the 1500 meters is individuals what he. What he put in here. So it's kind of surprising. It's a longer trek event for me.
[01:05:49] Speaker A: 1600. Is that the 1600?
[01:05:51] Speaker B: No, they do a 1500 of the Olympics.
[01:05:52] Speaker A: Oh.
[01:05:53] Speaker B: I don't know why. Probably because it's a round number, like, everywhere but America, where we do the 1600, because it's basically a mile.
[01:05:59] Speaker A: It is a mile. Yeah.
[01:06:00] Speaker B: Yeah. So. But the rest of the world measures, you know, in meters and not feet, so.
[01:06:08] Speaker A: So bone likes this event.
[01:06:10] Speaker B: Yeah, he loves it. He thinks it's great. 1500 meters. It takes a, uh, quite a bit of time running, but he loves it.
[01:06:16] Speaker A: Well, it'll take probably about four minutes.
[01:06:18] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, it's a lot longer than I want to watch.
[01:06:20] Speaker A: True.
[01:06:22] Speaker B: And then his number one is the four by 100 relay swimming event.
[01:06:26] Speaker A: So this is like the medley relay, right?
[01:06:28] Speaker B: Yeah. So where everybody does a different stroke and it's. It's. It's the four by 100, which I will agree with. This is a very exciting event. I didn't. Spoiler alert, I don't have it in my top three, but I do like to watch this one. This one's exciting.
[01:06:42] Speaker A: Maybe like top ten.
[01:06:43] Speaker B: Definitely top ten, but not my top three. Not my hot three.
[01:06:46] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:06:47] Speaker B: Kenny, we'll go with you next. Cause we're just changing up the order this week, so.
[01:06:51] Speaker A: Sure, sure. So, number three, the nomenclature here. So this, I think, is a new event this year that I've been break dancing, that I've been just absolutely enthralled with. And it's the kayak cruise cross.
Not necessarily specifically just the kayak cross, but all these kayak events, basically, they built. They dug a new river in Paris.
[01:07:22] Speaker B: Man made pumps putting water through this thing. It's actually not new. I believe this was in the last summer Olympics as well, at least some of the kayaking events were. I don't know about the whole.
[01:07:30] Speaker A: Well, I know specifically the kayak cross was a new event. But anyways, this kayaking is literally. Literally, they're kayaking in a man made river, and you have to.
[01:07:39] Speaker B: Which is wild to see through gates.
[01:07:42] Speaker A: Under gates, around gates upstream, around certain gates begin to color, and this thing gets wild.
[01:07:49] Speaker B: Man, you talk about the one with all four of them.
Is that the cross or is it. What's the cross?
[01:07:54] Speaker A: So the cross was with all four of them where they dump them out of the top?
[01:07:56] Speaker B: Hell, yes.
[01:07:57] Speaker A: And it's like an 18 foot drop into the river, which is wild with, like, four kayaks. And these people are, like, throwing elbows, like, trying to get position in this thing. Like, it's no holds barred. But even I found myself, like, just watching the individual timed events in this. The river itself is fascinating.
[01:08:16] Speaker B: That's the most fascinating part to me. To your point, I just wanted to say the kayak cross, you mentioned, like, elbows and stuff being thrown. My favorite part is when they all get, like, bunched up into, like, one.
What do they call them? Flag that they're trying to go. I don't know what their gate that they're trying to go around. And I saw.
Who knew this was just a, like a strategic maneuver. But, like, if two people are bunched up in a gate, the third person will come in and just like, kamikaze, ram them. Like, fuck you guys.
[01:08:44] Speaker A: Ram them because you ram them to the wall.
[01:08:46] Speaker B: Guys are getting stuck. And I'm going around this thing because you guys are fighting position over here.
[01:08:51] Speaker A: Ram into the wall, and you get the inside.
[01:08:53] Speaker B: Like, my thought would be, you go to the other one. So you're like, I'll just avoid that over here. No, fuck that. Both of them out. And then you take the lead.
[01:09:01] Speaker A: And my favorite part is, like, this apparently happens all over the world because before the race, they entered, they introduce everybody, and they're like, this is the number three kayak cross lady in the world. And I'm like, where do they even do this? Like, what? I'm talking to my wife. And I'm like, the amount of money and thought, like, they had to bring in architects and engineers and they were like, all right, we need to build this crazy ass river.
[01:09:24] Speaker B: I need you to build me super strong curves, dog house.
[01:09:28] Speaker A: But, like, it has to be deep enough that, like, if somebody gets tipped over, they don't get their decapitated or anything.
[01:09:33] Speaker B: Yeah, we can shut the whole thing off and get them out of there.
[01:09:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, I'm just like, the amount of thought, energy and money that was spent on building this synthetic river for this race.
[01:09:41] Speaker B: I agree with you. Just the fact that the engineering feat of the river is fascinating to me.
[01:09:47] Speaker A: And then you throw people in, and we're throwing bows and flippers at each other.
[01:09:50] Speaker B: Hell, yes.
[01:09:50] Speaker A: And I'm like, this is the craziest sport I ever saw.
[01:09:53] Speaker B: And you're not allowed to, like, take your. You have to have both hands on the. The paddle at all times. There's all kinds of weird rules.
[01:09:58] Speaker A: The way they. Like, you have to be like. It has to be like, the gate has to be above your chin, like, for it to count if it's under.
[01:10:04] Speaker B: So many weird rules.
[01:10:05] Speaker A: One guy got penalized, like, 58 seconds.
[01:10:07] Speaker B: Penalized? That's a funny word.
[01:10:08] Speaker A: Yeah, penalized like, 58 seconds in a race that took him 45 seconds to complete. I'm like, how do they even come up with that?
[01:10:15] Speaker B: Bone says he's at a Jonas Brothers convention. He's actually at home penalizing his wife right now.
[01:10:21] Speaker A: Number two.
[01:10:24] Speaker B: Hey, wait. Before we get off of kayaking, okay, I gotta just shout out to Cuyahoga Falls, where I used to live. They kayak there. I didn't, but they have. Some of the biggest kayak events in the entire state is on the Cuyahoga river in downtown Cuyahoga Falls.
[01:10:39] Speaker A: Well, I'm just like, how do you. Like. You probably just train by. Just swing. Like swimming.
[01:10:44] Speaker B: Oh, it's wild. Have you ever been down to, like, downtown Cuyahoga Falls? Where. Where, like, by the hotel there, where all the rapids, like, the crazy rapids are? Like. They just go down and there's, like, fucking full blown waterfalls in that thing.
[01:10:55] Speaker A: We stayed the night before my wedding. We stayed at the hotel the Sheridan they're overlooking. We had the balcony and the super supreme suite or whatever, looking the rapid, rapid.
[01:11:05] Speaker B: I didn't, because I lived two minutes from there, but. Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
[01:11:08] Speaker A: You didn't come over that night.
[01:11:09] Speaker B: I hung out with you guys for a while. I ended up going home because I was.
[01:11:13] Speaker A: And then Christine and I stayed there, and I got married. Yeah. Neither here nor there.
[01:11:17] Speaker B: Speaking of penalizing your wife.
[01:11:18] Speaker A: Yes. River.
Yeah. Kayak crowd. It's just crazy to me, anyways. What's number two crazy to me that it's, like, happening all over the world? It is, because there's a world ranking attached.
[01:11:28] Speaker B: There's just so many man made rivers. Yeah.
[01:11:31] Speaker A: Number two men's hunter meter bash.
Look, I mean, who doesn't want to know who the fastest person on the planet is?
Fair. You know, it's just, it's one of those that it comes along with every olympics. You want to see who the fastest mandev.
[01:11:47] Speaker B: I mean, forever we event was top notch nuts. Did you see the pictures were like, they showed every stage of the race.
[01:11:58] Speaker A: That was the coolest thing I've ever seen. Where everybody's even.
[01:12:02] Speaker B: Yeah. In the dude, the american dude that won it. What's his name? Lyles. Yeah. That was literally dead last up until the last like 10 meters.
[01:12:11] Speaker A: It's just an amazing thing, though. I mean, and like, I ran the hunter meter when I was in high school. Like, I certainly was no olympian, so pretty quick. So I have respect for that.
[01:12:20] Speaker B: Here's a fun fact for everybody. This guy, this big bald guy over here was faster than me in high school. So. And I ran just, just to be clear here. In college, I ran a 4540. Like, I was fast and he was faster than me.
[01:12:34] Speaker A: I was fast once upon a time.
[01:12:36] Speaker B: You would never guess it now, but.
[01:12:37] Speaker A: I just like, to me, it's such a fascinating race because of the variability with the top tier athletes. Like, I always knew, like, if I ran as fast as I can, like, my pr in 100 was like eleven one and I was like, I'm never going to run faster than eleven one.
That's just how fast I am. But, like, the fact that. And I guess these are, these races are decided on hundreds and thousands, sometimes a seconds, but .005 in this one, to be honest. But, like, these guys, guys will qualify at like 98981 and then run like nine six five in the final. I'm just like, if I'm running my.
[01:13:16] Speaker B: Fastest, I think it was like nine seven. Seven is what one it was.
[01:13:18] Speaker A: I'm running my fastest. Like, I'm always, I'm always running eleven one.
I don't run any faster. I can run slower if I didn't want to run as fast as I can, but if I'm in a race, I'm running as fast as I can.
[01:13:28] Speaker B: Like, how do these guys just get, like, I'm just going to shave two tenths of a second off of this one.
[01:13:32] Speaker A: Well, and like, sometimes they're like, I'll just shave two tenths of a second on my personal best. And I'm like, I don't understand. Like, how did that even. How do. How do you get a 10th of a second faster? Just because adrenaline and sport and combat, like, I don't know.
[01:13:44] Speaker B: I guess that just comes with being a world class athlete. You could just turn on a whole.
[01:13:47] Speaker A: Other variability and like, with the top two, it's just amazing to me because, like, I always knew my fastest was, was one speed. If there was a guy in the race that ran ten, nine or eleven flat, I was going to lose.
[01:13:59] Speaker B: I agree.
[01:14:00] Speaker A: How hard I tried.
[01:14:00] Speaker B: I ran as hard as I could.
[01:14:03] Speaker A: I was going to lose.
[01:14:04] Speaker B: It is funny because we actually, you know, you were fastest me in football season, we actually never really got to race in track season because you got involved with drama your senior year and you were in the play and missed a lot of practice.
[01:14:14] Speaker A: I did.
[01:14:15] Speaker B: Missed a lot of meets and I only ran the hundred when they needed me to run the hundred. I wasn't a.
I hated running in general, even though I was super fast. And I just remember I hated running. So I was like, I'll do the high jump and long jump. If you guys need me to sprint, I will. By the way, I won't do anything over 100 meters. I remember, I remember. Not that this is my proudest moment in my life, but this brought back a memory, is senior year, they wanted me to run the 400 or else we were going to have to withdraw because we didn't have enough guys that day, for whatever reason. We're a fucking high school. How you don't get enough guys is beyond me. And I told him no, I said, I don't run longer than 100 meters, so I'm out.
[01:14:54] Speaker A: The 200 meters was the worst race for me. I hated the 200 meters because I could run about 160 meters.
[01:15:01] Speaker B: That was why 100 was the most, because early on in the season they did have try the 200 twice. And I agree, that was about where I topped out. Was like 160 to 180 meters. And then I was like completely gassed and dead those last.
[01:15:12] Speaker A: Ran the 200 my whole way through high school. So I spent four years training to run this event and I still just 160. It's just like my time. If I ran my fastest, that was the fastest I could run.
[01:15:21] Speaker B: That's all. You gotta run my furthest as far.
[01:15:23] Speaker A: As I could run.
[01:15:23] Speaker B: Yeah, sorry, track tangent there.
[01:15:27] Speaker A: No, yeah.
And having some frame of reference for like, like eleven, 511 one in high school was really fast. Like you could qualify for like regionals and stuff.
[01:15:36] Speaker B: I don't even remember what my pr.
[01:15:37] Speaker A: Eleven one, like the state championship probably ran like ten seven was like a state champion. Ten eight was like state champion speed. So Alan Vanderink, I think, ran like ten nine, I think he won state's one year, so, yeah, just having some kind of frame of reference. Obviously not Olympic frame of reference, but just, I've always. I've always been a fan of sprinting, and I always thought that was just the coolest race.
[01:15:59] Speaker B: Vanity camp.
[01:16:00] Speaker A: I think maybe growing up, like, I think it was. What was it? Michael Johnson that was the fastest man in the world at the gold sneaker, the gold shoes.
[01:16:05] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[01:16:07] Speaker A: Spikes and stuff. So, like, I just, like, I don't know. In my mind, like, growing up, like, I was just always, like, the hunters is the coolest race.
[01:16:13] Speaker B: So here's a fun fact that I saw this week. I forget. Look up real quick who was the winner of the 1988 Olympic gold in the 100 meters.
Just look that up real quick. So while I'm telling the story. So the 1988 Olympic gold medal, nautilus, they compared. His time is a very well known name. It's an american. I just can't remember what it was off top of my head. Very well known name. But he ran his fastest.
And what was the time? 9.81, I think, or 9.82.
The guy that came in last this race from Jamaica, ran a 9.8.
[01:16:53] Speaker A: Carl Lewis ran a world record time of 9.79, but his record prior to that was the world championship record at 9.83.
[01:17:03] Speaker B: So maybe that's what it was. Either way, what happened was it was whatever it was. The winner of the 1988 Olympics, Carl Lewis, whatever he ran, the guy that came in last in this one, ran point one faster than he, like, oh, sorry.
[01:17:16] Speaker A: Carl Lewis was defending Benjen. Canada beat Olympic champion Carl Lewis, so.
[01:17:21] Speaker B: In 88.
[01:17:22] Speaker A: In 88, yeah.
[01:17:23] Speaker B: Yeah. So either way, though, the. The loser, that last place this year was 0.1. That was my point. It was point one faster than the Olympic gold medalist in 1988 or 1984, whatever.
[01:17:33] Speaker A: It's really crazy to go. Cause I've seen all kinds of comparisons, too, to, like, athletes in the early 19 hundreds. But, like, of course, those guys ran in, like, shoes without spikes on cinder blocks. Like, to see, like, how they could compete. There's a bunch of cool sports science stuff out there on that. But anyway, I've always just found it fascinating.
[01:17:51] Speaker B: Small track tangent turned into a big.
[01:17:53] Speaker A: One, but fascinating race.
[01:17:54] Speaker B: What's your number one?
[01:17:55] Speaker A: Number one?
Women's gymnastics.
Good stuff.
I watched the men, too, but the women, to me, have so much harder of a bar to reach to be.
[01:18:10] Speaker B: Champions because they're all more flexible, they're all better at.
[01:18:16] Speaker A: Because if you look at the women's floor, the women's floor routine versus the men's floor routine.
[01:18:20] Speaker B: The men's floor routine.
[01:18:21] Speaker A: So stupid. Routine is basically just tumbling. Yeah, well, the girls have to tumble, but they also have to dance.
[01:18:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:18:28] Speaker A: And they do that on the balance beam, too. So, like, everything they do, to your point, was like, it's more. It's more grace. It's more about grace.
[01:18:35] Speaker B: And don't get me wrong, palmer horse, impressive balance beam. Insane.
[01:18:40] Speaker A: Sure, all those things require, like, intense, incredible strength, like, across all gymnastics, but the fact that the women's gymnastics also incorporates balance and, like, dancing, to me, makes it so much harder. Like, if. Can you imagine these male gyms had to, like, dance during their floor routine? Like, it's just a whole nother like usage of your energy on top of Simone Biles jumping 12ft in the air.
And I'll say this, too, just while we're talking about women's gymnastics, like, how blessed we are to get to have the opportunity to watch someone biles do gymnastics in our lifetime.
[01:19:16] Speaker B: Like, she's.
[01:19:19] Speaker A: The athleticism.
[01:19:20] Speaker B: She's wild, so pure. She's so strong, she's so good. And I will say this. Whether she comes back or not, I know a lot of people are putting pressure on her to give an answer. If she's coming back for the next olympics, she'll be 31, which is older, ancient women's gymnastics. But if she comes back, man, and she's able to win some, it doesn't even have to be gold, any sort, sort of medal in LA, here in the US, the next time, that's going.
[01:19:46] Speaker A: To be, I just don't know.
[01:19:48] Speaker B: Insane.
[01:19:49] Speaker A: I mean, outside the fact that it's in the US, I don't know why it would come back. I mean, she's accomplished everything in the sport.
[01:19:55] Speaker B: She had the best, though.
[01:19:56] Speaker A: She had the issue in Tokyo and came back from that this time, and they won the gold and the all around all that. And if you still feel like you're.
[01:20:04] Speaker B: The best in the world, would you do it?
[01:20:05] Speaker A: Well, but I'm also like, she's newly married and she's 27. Like, you're not getting any younger. You're not getting any more flexible. She already talked to this Olympics about how, like, it's harder for her to do certain things than it used to be.
Like, I just wouldn't. I like, if she, if she was like, I'm gonna start a family, I wouldn't be like, damn it, kids.
[01:20:23] Speaker B: And I'll say this, you know, that's totally up to her. I don't whatever she does, she's more. She's the greatest gymnast. I'm not even saying female gymnast. She's the greatest gymnast in us history. So whatever she decides, good on you. You've done it all.
[01:20:39] Speaker A: I mean, if she came back, I'd be stoked. Cause that's what I'm saying. We are blessed to be alive at a time to watch the greatness it is. Simone Biles and the rest of that team. Look, they have tremendous athletes. SUNy Lee and those girls, like, are awesome. And they picked it up in 2020 when Simone was out. But watching Simone do things that no other gymnast on the planet can do.
[01:20:56] Speaker B: Yeah. The only place I was going with that is just nowadays, it seems like people are starting families a little bit later than they have in recent years.
31. Still perfect time.
[01:21:06] Speaker A: True. I'm just saying, like, it wouldn't surprise me if, like, she was like, I've done every gymnastic. I have nothing left to accomplish, and I want to have kids or whatever. Like, I just think. I think the training. Not that you can't have kids to be an olympian. There's a lot of Olympic sprinters and stuff.
[01:21:19] Speaker B: Serena Williams won a major when she was pregnant.
[01:21:23] Speaker A: I think it's a tougher road to go down, you know?
[01:21:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:21:26] Speaker A: Cause I think that these Olympians, people like Simone, people like Michael Phelps, like, they eat, breathe, and sleep their sport. They aren't taking. Like, I watched Michael Phelps recently talking, and he was like, I didn't most swimmers take a day off? Take a day off for rest and recuperation? He's like, I had 52 other days of training than every other Olympic athlete on the planet. You wonder why I was better. Like, that's so. And I think Simone's probably the same. Like, these people just live that sport, and that's what makes them great. And she's been doing it for her whole life. Like, I just don't see how. Why she would come back. I would love it. I think it would be great even if she came back and only did. Did, like, vault.
[01:22:03] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm with you. I would love it. If she doesn't, then I'm, you know, it. Not that it matters what I think anyways, but I would be content and I'd be happy just to have seen her compete.
[01:22:13] Speaker A: Like we. Like, we're fortunate, as sports fans, be able to watch people like Tom Brady have these long careers. Peyton Manning, you get Simone Biles. Like, in primetime, on tv, you get the world championships, a little bit, like ESPN stuff, but on prime time. On your cable tv once every four years. And so just to have her for the memories that we'll have of, like, watching the greatest units of all time. We're incredibly fortunate.
[01:22:36] Speaker B: Yeah. And so, I mean, while we're on that topic, though, I do one more shout out. Like, as far as things that are happening right now, what a time for women's sports right now. They're finally, like, kind of getting their, you know, their, the spotlight that they deserve. And a lot of these places be at the Olympics with the, the women athletes. Athletes, the WNBA right now, with the influx of talent that they have. Like, on top of the influx of talent, it seems like just as a, maybe it's as a society, I don't really know the answer to this, but we're just marketing these women better to be able to get them in front of people so you can see the amazing things that they're able to do.
[01:23:14] Speaker A: And that's been the problem for a long time, is, like, well, and a, the marketing dollars weren't there.
[01:23:18] Speaker B: Right.
[01:23:18] Speaker A: Nobody was watching. And b, like, we've done a shit job of marketing these athletes. I incorporate a related a little bit to, like, how baseball, like, the MLB, has done a shit job of, like, keeping their top athletes in front of people. And you wonder why people stopped watching baseball, like, women's sports for a long time have felt that same way. Like, they didn't do a good job of getting them out in front of you. Yeah. You know, certainly becoming more, I don't want to say mainstream, because women's sports been around for a long time, but, like, they're getting more, like, games in primetime on ESPN and, like, the networks and things that, hey, good, good for them. I mean, we've talked at length on this show about the pay gaps between men and women and this disparity. But again, all that comes down to money making and viewership. And so it's all, it's a good thing to have more eyes on women's sports, for sure. I mean, if nothing else, like, these Olympics are showcasing, like, some of these women that are just tremendous athletes from all these different, I mean, whether it's volleyball, beach volleyball.
[01:24:17] Speaker B: We haven't talked about, like, Katie Ledecky or what's the, the other swimmer? I think her last name starts with an H.
Hodge or hog or something like that. You know, I'm talking about. Yeah. And I apologize that I don't know her name. I've been catching the Olympics when I can. Olympics, I know, but, but she's, she's phenomenal swimmer. And, yeah, I mean, all these athletes, like, it's just what a time for. For women's athletics. And really, all these sports are taking off, so it's fun to watch. But we'll get into my top three. Here's an interesting thing. Our top three are the same.
Not in the same order, but the same. Same sports. So I had kayak racing down. I had no idea what it was called until you told me it was kayak cross.
[01:25:03] Speaker A: Well, that was just the one. That one race was kind of cross.
[01:25:06] Speaker B: But that's the one I was talking about, where they come down off the ramp and everybody just starts beating the shit out of each other. Yeah. It was my favorite. I was watching it the other day, and I was enthralled. Like, I was. I.
[01:25:15] Speaker A: It's like nothing I've ever seen.
[01:25:16] Speaker B: I was sitting there on the couch, right? And I'm just, like, watching it. Like, it comes on. That was the next event that was on, and I'm just like, oh, this sounds cool. And I started watching it, and literally, by, like, the third race, I was all the way at the edge of my seat, like, is anybody fucking seeing this? Like, are you watching? Like, this is nuts, man. And, like, I just start rooting for random people that I have no idea who they are.
[01:25:36] Speaker A: Like, I'm pretty sure, like, I was in the same way. I was just zoned in, and, like, the baby was crying. I was just like, christine, you're good to get that.
[01:25:42] Speaker B: I can't. I can't deal with this right now. Women's, men's, or women's or kayak crosses on whatever it was. Yeah. So, yeah, kayak cross was at number three for me. Number two is gymnastics. Women's gymnastics was number two for me. And I had all the same feelings that you had about the men versus the women. Don't get me wrong. The rings is one of my. It's up there in the events. The rings for the men is phenomenal.
But, yeah, their floor routine just doesn't do it for me. Their bars routine, which isn't just the 1 bar, like, whatever they have, like, I don't know, parallel bars.
[01:26:16] Speaker A: Parallel bars, yeah.
[01:26:17] Speaker B: Doesn't do it for me. The pommel horse. Every once in a while, there's a really cool moment, but overall, it doesn't really do much for me to see you spinning around on a pommel horse over and over again.
[01:26:26] Speaker A: Did you see the guy x ray, the guy with the glasses? That was just a pommel horse specialist.
[01:26:30] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
[01:26:31] Speaker A: That's all he does.
[01:26:32] Speaker B: The coolest thing that they do is when they hold onto the bar and they do, like, a full. Like, they just keep spinning on the same arm. And I'm like, whoa. How far can they go on that same arm? Yeah, but besides that, that's what I said. There's cool moments.
[01:26:43] Speaker A: Super incredible flexible wrists, cool moments in.
[01:26:46] Speaker B: The Palma horse, but overall, it doesn't really do much for me. No, the rings, though, is fantastic for the men.
[01:26:51] Speaker A: Yeah, except Vince Vaughn did it with a cigarette in his mouth.
[01:26:54] Speaker B: Well, true.
[01:26:54] Speaker A: Way too.
[01:26:55] Speaker B: The volt is awesome for the men, too.
[01:26:58] Speaker A: You know, I have a bone to pick with the vault.
[01:27:00] Speaker B: Okay, let's. Okay, bone's not here, so, you know, he's at a Jonas Brothers convention.
[01:27:05] Speaker A: The vault's probably my favorite gymnastics event if I had to pick one. But, like, when did we get on this table thing? You know, back in my day, you used to vote.
[01:27:15] Speaker B: You're officially a boomer. You used an old person. You're probably. You're not a boomer, but you're an old person.
[01:27:20] Speaker A: You used to vault over a pommel horse. When they took the bars off, you just bolted on the pommel. Like, when. When was it? Was Carrie strung? Was it. What? Was that the one that hurt her ankle? Yeah, she bolted over a pommel horse. Like, that's. That's way more impressive than whatever this table thing is.
[01:27:35] Speaker B: Yeah, you would have that occasionally. It was very rare, but I think it happened, like, twice that I can remember where somebody just, like, missed the vault. Just like. Yeah, just right into the size. Always.
[01:27:42] Speaker A: There was always a problem.
You had to make sure you hit the pommel horse.
[01:27:46] Speaker B: Yeah, like, when did we get this.
[01:27:47] Speaker A: Giant ass fucking table for, like, oh, in case you miss the Olympics, don't miss.
[01:27:51] Speaker B: Don't miss. She shouldn't have been standing there.
[01:27:54] Speaker A: I could see, like, kids gymnastics having a table for, like, safety, but, like, come on.
[01:27:58] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree, but, yeah, so I'll be brief with that. Women's gymnastics, just everything.
If you take into account their entire routine, all the different individual events that they do, it's just far superior to the men. It's so much more fun to watch.
[01:28:13] Speaker A: It is.
[01:28:14] Speaker B: In the women. Just seem like the competition is so much more fierce with the women. Like, the men, you always have, like, those couple front runners that you know are going to be the better guys, whereas I guess with Simone Biles, like, she's the best, but it's still a fierce competition. Like, that girl that. From.
Where was it? Brazil was. I mean, she gave. For a minute there, it was looking like she was going to give Simone a run for her money, and it was a outright battle for 2nd, third and fourth.
So, you know, I just. It's just so much fun to watch into your point. They're so much more graceful, so much more, like. It's just a more impressive floor routine. A more impressive. It's almost like balance beam. Everything else that they're doing, the. The bars for them, is insane. Like, just some of the stuff they do where they just, like, put their bodies up against the bars and, like, flip over. I'm like, what is happening?
[01:29:04] Speaker A: Dismounts are just insane.
[01:29:05] Speaker B: Nuts. So, yeah, I mean, it's actually amazing.
[01:29:08] Speaker A: To be that gymnastics isn't more mainstream, like, as a sport to just be.
[01:29:13] Speaker B: On tv fair, but, yeah, so, gymnast women's gymnastics is number two for me, and number number one is the 100 meters sprints for the men, specifically. And don't get me wrong, the women's is exciting, too, but just the fastest, like 10 seconds in sports is. It's just insane to see. And this year, like we already talked about, did not disappoint. It was just phenomenal to watch. It was fun when Usain Bolt was. Was running, but the fact that he was dominating so much and it wasn't really that fun to watch because he was so far out ahead of everybody. Like, this year, it was insane. And I was like, what the hell? Just had, like. And they announced the guy from Jamaica was the winner at first, and then they were like, wait, we checked the tape, and the guy from America actually won. And the guy from America actually went over to him, was like, you got me, man. Good job. And then he was like, just kidding. I win. I'm the best. I'm the best who ever was. Then he ran around, he said, america. I told you I got this.
And I was just like, what? Like, it was wild.
[01:30:10] Speaker A: I also just think it's amazing, too, because a lot of these guys that are sprinters will run in other events because they can run fast. Yeah, but some guys, like you, train your whole life to run that hundred meters.
[01:30:20] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:30:21] Speaker A: And you get to the Olympics, and in less than 10 seconds, your job is over.
[01:30:24] Speaker B: It's over.
[01:30:25] Speaker A: Your job, your whole job, everything. You get up every day and you run 100 meters over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. I mean, you do. You train on blocks, and I don't want to oversimplify it. Like, you train on your starts and your blocks.
[01:30:34] Speaker B: That's what? It literally takes less than 10 seconds to complete your event.
[01:30:38] Speaker A: Your Olympic. Your Olympic experience is done.
[01:30:41] Speaker B: It's wild, man. That's why I says the most. I don't care what you say. You could put that up against just about anything. And that's the most exciting 10 seconds in sports. It's. It's just.
[01:30:52] Speaker A: Make 10 seconds. You're really good.
[01:30:54] Speaker B: Yeah, but that doesn't really do it for me. The 100 meters sprints, that's exciting.
[01:31:00] Speaker A: Bull riding, taming a thousand pound bull isn't exciting for you?
[01:31:05] Speaker B: No.
No.
[01:31:07] Speaker A: All right.
[01:31:08] Speaker B: Fair enough. But yeah. So that'll do it for the hot three. It was a long winded hot three this, this week, but we're, in case you can't tell, we're Olympics fans. So Bone wasn't even here to go through his. This is going to be probably the longest hot three that we do, but that'll take us to the Nick Chubb football giveaway.
Do we have a sound over this?
[01:31:31] Speaker A: I don't think so. I think I just. I think we just talked about it.
[01:31:33] Speaker B: All right. We'll just talk about it. For the second offseason in a row, we are giving away some autographed Brown's memorabilia. And this year, for the second season in a row, we were giving away Nick Chubb autograph memorabilia. Last year was a jersey. This year it's a football. So it's sitting right here. Anybody watching the video version? It's. It's kind of tough to see the signature in the bright lights of the studio, but it is there. We have a football signed by Nick Chubb. It will be going to one of our lucky YouTube subscribers. YouTube. YouTube.
[01:32:01] Speaker A: YouTube.
[01:32:01] Speaker B: So go ahead and go to our social medias. There's a link you can click on to enter. There's quite a few ways to earn bonus entries, but the main thing is our winner will be chosen from our YouTube subscriber. So make sure you're subscribed.
And, yeah, I mean, get. Get entered for your chance to win this thing. It's pretty dope ass. We need to stop giving away Nick Chubb autographed memorabilia and keep it for ourselves.
[01:32:22] Speaker A: True.
[01:32:23] Speaker B: I keep it for myself.
[01:32:24] Speaker A: I keep it for myself.
You can't see on this football right now, but the other side is actually also very cool because it has, what do we call this? Like the indented font?
[01:32:37] Speaker B: Embossed.
[01:32:38] Speaker A: Embossed font on the back says Cleveland Browns and has not only their, you know, the date of establishment in 1946, but has all the years of their NFL championships on it as well. So just a very cool collector's item pieced altogether. And the fact that Batman signed it. Yeah, I mean, come on.
[01:32:55] Speaker B: Pretty dope ass.
[01:32:56] Speaker A: Dope ass.
[01:32:57] Speaker B: And not only on our social medias. Check the link in the show notes. That'll be there as well. So, but that'll take us to, we're going to do a quick revenue break here and then we'll be back to talk a little bit more about the Browns.
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All right. And so going into the second half the show here, you know, until we get into games and those types of things where we can really split the show up into our preview, our recap, all that stuff, we just have some topics here that we want to talk about more at length and more in depth. And number one here on my list is the Brandon Iook trade rumors.
[01:34:09] Speaker A: Yes. This weekend they were rampant.
[01:34:12] Speaker B: Yeah, they were. And so it's funny, we, you know, we talked to, talked about while we locked up Amari, at least for this year, he's going to be a free, free agent after this year. But we locked up Amari, got that all taken care of, so there's no drama. But that's the name that is flying around in the brand and I trade rumors. And so I guess it's the possibility of could we unload a 30 year old that's having his best seasons to a Super bowl contender for an ascending 26 year old coming off back to back, thousand yard seasons that seems to have all of his best years ahead of him.
[01:34:42] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, look, I think there's so there's some other nuance to there as well. If I was going to trade him straight up, like, I absolutely do this.
[01:34:53] Speaker B: Deal right now, and I hate to say that because I love Coop. Don't get me wrong, I love Coop, but it's ioox 26.
[01:35:00] Speaker A: It sounds like the 49 ers may be also interested in upgrading their offensive line to protect Brock Purdy fair. So I've heard, like, Wyatt Taylor's name.
[01:35:13] Speaker B: On the list, which is a huge salary cap hit.
[01:35:15] Speaker A: So initially it sounded like if draft picks were involved that it would be a first. But honestly, because of the money involved and having to make IU pay at one of the probably top five or ten wide receivers paid in the NFL, that they think that the draft capital cost would be much less, maybe a third or a later rounder if a draft capital involves so.
But I think this thing comes down to, like, one thing, honestly, and it's like, where do the Browns see the wide receiver position? Like, because you're good for this year with Amari, but are you going to resign Amari at 31 years old?
[01:35:55] Speaker B: No.
[01:35:56] Speaker A: Let's say he has a 1900 yard season. He just blows everybody out of the water.
[01:36:00] Speaker B: I don't care.
[01:36:00] Speaker A: Touchdowns.
[01:36:01] Speaker B: I mean, I care, but I don't care.
[01:36:02] Speaker A: The Browns going to pay Amari Cooper $32 million a year next year.
[01:36:06] Speaker B: They're way too analytics forward to ever pay a 31 year old wide receiver top, top tier money.
[01:36:12] Speaker A: No. To me, if you could unload Amari to a team that is thinking they're going to the Super bowl this year again, who would love to have a veteran presence in their locker room and bring in IuK and not have to give up anything significant in terms of personnel in your line, but maybe draft capital, like, I do this, I do this trade ten out of ten times.
[01:36:34] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[01:36:35] Speaker A: Because of the upside with Iuk. I think he's a tremendous athlete, 26 years old. You can justify paying him top tier receiver money going forward.
We know the cap numbers went up. We know the Browns did a ton of restructuring in the offseason this year to make ends meet.
Look, we all know this is funny money at the end of the day, would it be tough to do? Sure.
[01:37:00] Speaker B: It's kind of like real money made up. Nobody knows. Points don't matter.
[01:37:04] Speaker A: True.
To bring me down another tangent here, I won't talk about national debt.
[01:37:14] Speaker B: It's high. I won't go there.
[01:37:18] Speaker A: Funny story, real quick.
We keep saying the national debt doesn't matter.
Why? Because we just print money. It's like, well, then stop giving our money to other countries. Them just print it.
[01:37:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:37:31] Speaker A: Inflation isn't a thing like just, you know, let them have a national debt.
[01:37:35] Speaker B: We live in a social construct anyways.
[01:37:38] Speaker A: Neither here nor there. But to me, look, I think Brandon Ayuk would be a tremendous fit here. He's a great athlete. I seen that dude make some ridiculous catches.
Obviously, if you've ever had him in fantasy. Like, you're probably a big Ayuk fan.
But look, it's not like he's not productive. He's had thousand year seasons. Seasons last year, two years. It's 26 years old. Great athlete.
[01:38:00] Speaker B: Well, that's the biggest thing is you basically reset the clock, right?
[01:38:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:38:03] Speaker B: As far as receivers go, even if.
[01:38:04] Speaker A: He'S 95% of what Amari is, let's say, never even reaches as good as Amari is. Let's say he's just really close. He's 26.
[01:38:12] Speaker B: You have four years at.
[01:38:13] Speaker A: I know that we're not going to do anything with Amari pass this season.
[01:38:17] Speaker B: Right.
[01:38:17] Speaker A: Maybe, maybe they sign him to a one year deal and they make the money work because they, we think we're going to the Super bowl. But, like, I just look at the NFL as windows, right? And it's, you have small windows every now and then where you can make a run and.
[01:38:33] Speaker B: Well, and honestly, I think part of bringing in Jerry Judy and redoing his contract was to pave the way to be able to say, okay, Amari, we're putting you on a one year deal and it's it after this season.
[01:38:41] Speaker A: Well, yeah. And so I think a guy like iuk, though, keeps that window open a little bit longer.
[01:38:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:38:45] Speaker A: Whereas like, you know that you have a number one talent type receiver.
With Amari, though, like, this is it. Like, this is your window with Amari. It's right now. Right this year.
[01:38:56] Speaker B: I totally agree. And again, as much as, as much as I love coop, you're gonna be, you're gonna be 31, man. I don't.
Even if you had a 1900 yard receiving year this year. I get it. That's phenomenal. That's awesome. I would be. I would be super pumped. You'd be one of my favorite browns of all time. At the same time, it's just bad business in the NFL to pay a 31 year old receiver top money. Yeah, it's just bad business.
[01:39:21] Speaker A: And look, I'm not even against it personally myself to pay because Amari's been great here and I think Amari probably has more productive years ahead of him. But I just know that the Browns front office is not. No, they're not going to play there. So if we have the opportunity to Nyuke trade, I say pull the trigger because I don't know otherwise you're trying to replace a guy like Iook Annamari in the draft or not going to get another chance that like a guy like Iuke in free agency.
[01:39:49] Speaker B: Right. And here's the thing. So even what. Wyatt Teller is a huge show favorite for us. His wife has sent us a Christmas card two years in a row. Once here. I think the other one's. The other one's there. So they're, they're both up here.
We've kind of followed him along since he's obviously, since he's been a brown. You know, he's, he's got, his kid was born last year. They got another one on the way this year, which I think is wife's due. Literally, like any day. Seriously? Yeah. So again, fan favorite, like, we follow Wyatt Teller fairly closely and we really like Wyatt Teller, but if they want to include him in the deal, like, at this point, you're a big cap hit.
And we, we did pick up more depth on the offensive line in the off season.
[01:40:34] Speaker A: I think that's the question about. Right. Your left tackle is Jed Wills, maybe.
[01:40:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:40:39] Speaker A: Your right tackle is Jack Conklin. Maybe is always hurt.
[01:40:43] Speaker B: Big Thanos.
[01:40:44] Speaker A: Big Thanos also got hurt in his rookie year.
[01:40:46] Speaker B: Fair.
[01:40:46] Speaker A: So you have question marks kind of at both tackles that you're not sure if any of them are a good or can stay healthy.
Joel Batonio's. I mean, fight against father time.
[01:40:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:40:58] Speaker A: Pochek has been pretty good, but was, has been hurt the last couple of years. So, like, Wyatt's the one guy that's really been kicking an ass.
[01:41:04] Speaker B: Yep.
[01:41:05] Speaker A: Pretty much non stop.
[01:41:06] Speaker B: Fair. And again, we love Wyatt Teller. I just think that at this point in his career, with a, with a big cap hit and if, as far as maximizing returns, sure. The IUK trade is, is probably going to maximize your return.
[01:41:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:41:21] Speaker B: And look, and I hate to say that I love, again, Wyatt, Carly, if you're watching this, I'm sorry. We love you.
[01:41:29] Speaker A: We don't want to ship you to San Francisco.
[01:41:30] Speaker B: Yeah. But, but I'm just. As far as setting the Browns up for the future, like, that's the best option.
[01:41:36] Speaker A: I do worry about just the overall offensive line.
[01:41:40] Speaker B: If that's the trade, if he's not including the trade, even better.
[01:41:42] Speaker A: But to, to your point, to be fair, this offense sounds and should be more of a West coast passing offense. So guys like Wyatt Teller that can just blow holes through a defense maybe aren't as necessary. If, like, Nick Chubb's not here next year and your running game is in 80% of your offense, so maybe you can, you can survive with inferior interior linemen.
[01:42:11] Speaker B: We've got an inferior lineman running kind.
[01:42:13] Speaker A: Of that quick, that quick pass and go offense.
And in that case, someone like Ayuk is more important than a Nick Chubb and a Wyatt teller. So, yeah, I think it goes down to, like, philosophy going forward. We know that Kevin Stefanski wants to run this, you know, run and shoot or run and gun air raid offense. It's all we've heard since he's gotten here.
It's just you have the best running back on the planet. There's a problem standing in their way.
[01:42:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
But I do think we're in agreement. I think if you have a chance to make the IUK trade, you make the IUK trade. If you can make it work money wise and do everything that you need to do, then do it.
[01:42:50] Speaker A: Because in the money thing, it's just like you keep saying about Deshawn Scott contract. Like, we'll make. We would probably make iuk the number one top paid wide receiver in NFL. And then couple years, it won't be that bad.
[01:43:00] Speaker B: Especially because wide receivers are right in the middle of, like, they need to stop too.
[01:43:03] Speaker A: So then in the off season is gonna be Amari, chase. Jamari Chase. And it's like. It's just gonna keep going, right? Like, Jamar.
[01:43:10] Speaker B: Jamari, Jamar, Jamari.
[01:43:11] Speaker A: We've got Amari, they've got Jamar, Mario, Jamar, Chase. Like, it's just gonna be the next guy up. Next guy. How it is? So that's the pain is only temporary.
[01:43:23] Speaker B: Fair. And so next up here. I wanna, it's time.
[01:43:28] Speaker A: I wanna, I wanna. Is that like the Spice Girl song?
Tell me what you wanna be, my.
[01:43:34] Speaker B: Lover, you gotta get with my friend.
[01:43:36] Speaker A: I wanna, I wanna.
[01:43:37] Speaker B: I really, really, really.
[01:43:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Whatever that means.
[01:43:40] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know, but no. It's time. It's time to introduce everybody to the newest member of our team.
[01:43:46] Speaker A: Who's it gonna be?
[01:43:48] Speaker B: You wanna know?
[01:43:48] Speaker A: Is it a famous person?
[01:43:50] Speaker B: No. Oh. Right now we have someone that we'd like you to meet. So with the passing of SJ in the aftermath. R I p. Yes. In the aftermath of the dog pound logo competition last year, we decided that we wanted our own dog to represent the burning river sports cast. And thus river was born a dog sired by dogs. A dog whose lineage can be traced back beyond Charlemagne, he's often found sleeping on a bed of hot coals. He has one meal a day, breakfast for which he eats lightning and nothing else, just to establish his dominance over Kenny Thunder. He's hotter than red hot Ronnie jambs, and he is the bone man's greatest fear, as he doesn't just chew his bones he turns them to ash. River is the embodiment of all things burning over sports cast. And he is here to stay.
And he never poops.
[01:44:42] Speaker A: That's a huge bonus.
[01:44:43] Speaker B: Yeah. So when do you get your river merch? And wear it with pride, knowing that he vanquishes all enemies, both foreign and domestic, in search of his one true love, a. Brown's super bowl.
So join us and welcome. River. River. Burning river. Burning river.
[01:45:02] Speaker A: We're not gonna burn river. But he is. Burning river.
[01:45:05] Speaker B: He's got a. He's got some flames on his collar. Burning. His collar's on fire.
[01:45:09] Speaker A: Everything here has flames.
[01:45:10] Speaker B: Yeah, he's burning river.
[01:45:12] Speaker A: It's just the way it's gotta be.
[01:45:13] Speaker B: Do you get it? Burning river.
[01:45:15] Speaker A: Burning river.
[01:45:16] Speaker B: Burning river.
[01:45:17] Speaker A: Sports cast.
[01:45:18] Speaker B: Sports cast. Our official dog.
[01:45:22] Speaker A: Welcome to the dog pound.
[01:45:23] Speaker B: Yeah, but that'll lead us to. So. Oh, check it out. We do. That was what we were talking about earlier in the show. We do have merch that's dropping this week for him. That's important.
[01:45:33] Speaker A: Got Dustin. Dustin greater than Justin Merch.
[01:45:35] Speaker B: We got Dustin greater than Justin Merch.
[01:45:36] Speaker A: And all new stuff with our best friend river, on it.
[01:45:39] Speaker B: Yep. Hats, shirts.
[01:45:41] Speaker A: Just remember, a river runs through it.
[01:45:45] Speaker B: Ah. A river runs through it. Nice.
Good choice there. But that'll lead us to gassed up.
All right, so this is the segment of the show where we like to either vent about what's pissing us off or tell you about something that's making us super excited.
And so, Kenny, what's got you gassed up this week?
[01:46:13] Speaker A: I'm gassed up. I'm going back to the Olympics.
[01:46:16] Speaker B: Okay, let's hear it.
[01:46:18] Speaker A: We just got done talking about how great Simone Biles is.
[01:46:21] Speaker B: The best.
[01:46:22] Speaker A: Best of all time.
[01:46:24] Speaker B: Greatest of all time. Did you see your goat necklace? Pretty cool.
[01:46:26] Speaker A: That was cool.
[01:46:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:46:27] Speaker A: Greatest of all time, Michael Phelps.
[01:46:31] Speaker B: That guy's pretty good.
[01:46:32] Speaker A: Greatest of all time.
[01:46:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:46:36] Speaker A: I've had enough with the most decorated olympian of all time.
[01:46:41] Speaker B: There's like 14 different most decorated olympians of all time. Every time, they say a new one.
[01:46:44] Speaker A: Not only that, it's just. It's not even a fair game to play. Right, because LeBron James. James plays in one event.
[01:46:56] Speaker B: True.
[01:46:57] Speaker A: If there was a dribbling vent and you got a gold medal for dribbling or a gold medal for the.
[01:47:04] Speaker B: You get a gold medal for dribbling every day.
[01:47:06] Speaker A: You get a gold medal for the highest vertical leap or gold medal for.
[01:47:13] Speaker B: That's called the high jump.
[01:47:15] Speaker A: No, but in basketball, like, if you.
[01:47:17] Speaker B: Struggle, I got you okay? Yeah, go ahead.
[01:47:19] Speaker A: Or if you get, like, a 60 yard dash on the basketball court. And LeBron James had the chance to meddle in eight events every Olympics, he'd be the greatest, most decorated olympian of all time. The fact that swimmers and gymnasts get to compete in 65 different disciplines.
[01:47:36] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, you even take it to track and field. Like, if you run the. If you're a sprinter, you only do, like, 100, 200.
[01:47:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:47:42] Speaker B: If you're a mid distance, you do, like, 400, 800. Like, if you're a distance runner, you do, like, 1500 and up. Like.
[01:47:49] Speaker A: Like, I would die on the hill. That, like, Simone Biles is the greatest athlete I've ever seen in the Olympics, but, like, she's also just not playing a fair game. Like, there may be very good athletes, like, best athletes in the world to play beach volleyball.
[01:48:01] Speaker B: So you were. So, basically what we're getting at is you. You really built simone biles up throughout this whole show, and now you want to shit on her.
[01:48:08] Speaker A: I'm not trying to take her down, but I'm just trying. I'm more so trying to take down, like, Katie Ledecky and Michael Phelps, because you can't just.
[01:48:14] Speaker B: They swim a lot.
[01:48:15] Speaker A: They swim nonstop. They're just the best swimmers on the planet. Okay. Yeah, you're the best swimmer on the planet, but, like, you swim every event.
You. You can swim all the events. There's no other sport outside of, like, like, gymnastics, I guess. Cause you can do individual across all the different disciplines.
[01:48:33] Speaker B: But, like, the only difference is, like I mentioned, track, and you have sprinters mid distance and long distance. Uh, it's kind of that way in tra. In swimming, but it's only divided up into two. You're either a sprinter, which is like, the 50 and the 100, or you're Katie Ledecky, and you do everything, like, 400 and above.
[01:48:51] Speaker A: Well, yeah, like, Katie Ledecky, like, a helps playing, like, every race, basically.
[01:48:55] Speaker B: Yeah. But they don't do sprint, like, well, Phelps did, but Katie Ledecky doesn't do the sprints.
[01:49:01] Speaker A: She was in the four by 200, and she was her strongest leg.
[01:49:05] Speaker B: That's true.
[01:49:05] Speaker A: Caught him back up.
[01:49:06] Speaker B: That's true.
[01:49:06] Speaker A: I guess I just. I'm just like, if you're the fastest swimmer in the world, you have the ability to compete in so many more events. So, like, of course, you're the most decorated athlete of all time, but, like, LeBron James is going to go to, what, three or four olympics in his lifetime. The kid that specializes in pommel horse, x ray with the glasses.
[01:49:25] Speaker B: If he went to four Olympics, officially been nicknamed x ray.
[01:49:28] Speaker A: If he went to four Olympics and the men's team wonde, won gold and he won the pommel horse, he'd be more decorated than LeBron James. Is he a better athlete?
[01:49:37] Speaker B: No.
[01:49:37] Speaker A: No, no. So I just. We have to just. We have to just. We have to talk about this differently.
[01:49:43] Speaker B: Because it's pissing me off not to.
[01:49:46] Speaker A: Take anything away from Michael Phelps or Katie Ledecky. Great. You're the best swimmers in the world. I agree. But, like, we just. We put these guys on everything. Like they're the greatest Olympians of all time.
[01:49:58] Speaker B: I want to add something to that just. To just change how we talk about these things is, you know what? I get sick of us turning on the Olympics. And depending on which event, it's either the most decorated olympian of all time or the most decorated women's swimmer of all. Like, everybody's the most decorated something of all time. And that's all they talk about the entire broadcast. And it's like, all right, well, how many different most decorated can we have of all time? Like, yeah, I just. It just.
[01:50:23] Speaker A: It's overrun.
[01:50:24] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:50:25] Speaker A: Like, we get overrun with decorations.
[01:50:30] Speaker B: You need to tone down on the decorations.
[01:50:32] Speaker A: Decorating has to stop. And the best of all time, again, you can be the best all time in your discipline. Simone Biles is the best gymnast of all time. She's the be goat.
[01:50:46] Speaker B: The bego.
[01:50:47] Speaker A: And Michael Phelps can be the beast. Whoop.
He's the best swimmer of all time. But you can't just be the goat. You can't be the greatest of all time. You're not better. Simone Biles isn't a better swimmer than Michael Phelps.
[01:50:59] Speaker B: True.
[01:51:00] Speaker A: And Michael Phelps can't do.
[01:51:01] Speaker B: I venture to guess that Simone Biles, because she's four foot eight and is built like a gymnast, is probably a terrible swimmer.
[01:51:11] Speaker A: Probably.
[01:51:11] Speaker B: Yeah, she's probably not very good.
[01:51:13] Speaker A: She's straight muscle.
Her body is a muscle.
[01:51:16] Speaker B: She would just sing. Yeah, because she's just muscle.
[01:51:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:51:19] Speaker B: Not that those guys aren't just muscle too, but, like, they just. They're built for swimming. She's built for doing things on a balance beam and on the floor.
[01:51:26] Speaker A: Michael Phelps has built, like, three surfboards put together.
[01:51:29] Speaker B: Michael Phelps is a freak.
[01:51:31] Speaker A: He's just flat.
[01:51:32] Speaker B: He's a freak man. When he puts his arms out too. You're just like, what is this guy?
[01:51:36] Speaker A: He's basically a human fish.
[01:51:37] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:51:38] Speaker A: But I'm just. I'm just so sick of calling these people the greatest limb of all time. Like, there's. I don't know how many different shooting events there are, but, like, if a girl could win three shooting events. Ah.
[01:51:48] Speaker B: You brought up something that I just. I know that it's. He's been kind of going viral. The dude that just raw dogged the gear that they're wearing to, like, blind everything out in between, the dude's just like, fuck it. Both eyes open. Just, bam. Bullseye bitches.
[01:52:06] Speaker A: Like a former KGB agent or something. Like, I got this.
[01:52:09] Speaker B: What dude?
[01:52:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:52:11] Speaker B: When he came up to shoot, I actually watched that competition. When he first came up to shoot, I was like, there's no way this guy's gonna get shit on. And he just. Just stone face just. He did raw dog bullseye just done.
[01:52:22] Speaker A: And it was impressive.
[01:52:23] Speaker B: I was like, what is happening? What do you want a silver or bronze or whatever he wants.
[01:52:26] Speaker A: I think he wants silver, but. Yeah, like, if that guy.
[01:52:29] Speaker B: That was impressive.
[01:52:30] Speaker A: If that guy competes in the other shooters, greatest.
[01:52:32] Speaker B: Greatest shooter of all time, we call.
[01:52:33] Speaker A: Him the greatest olympian of all time. If he won three medals at every event.
[01:52:36] Speaker B: Like, you don't know.
[01:52:37] Speaker A: I just. How long? You're not in your prime of shooting. That guy could go to the next twelve olympics.
[01:52:43] Speaker B: That's another thing. That's not fair. Like, what about these guys that could play. They can play so much longer by.
[01:52:48] Speaker A: The time you're 22, as a gymnast, you're your grandma. Like, you're. You're shunned out of this sport.
[01:52:53] Speaker B: True, true. So you're gassed up, it sounds like.
[01:52:56] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm gas. Because everyone's the most decorated and best Libyan of all time based on the sheer number of medals you have. No, you have a sheer number of medals because you can compete in all the different events.
[01:53:06] Speaker B: Yeah, fair.
[01:53:07] Speaker A: Like, you could think about how many golf medals we could give out. We could give out short game medals, long drive medals, putting medals.
[01:53:14] Speaker B: That's another tangent we got on Scotty Scheffler. What a year that dude's having. Holy shit, bro.
[01:53:18] Speaker A: Win everything, $30 million, get arrested, jail, and the gold medal coming back.
[01:53:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:53:24] Speaker A: I mean, amazing.
[01:53:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:53:25] Speaker A: But, like, that guy. That guy should get just medals for his. I.
He could be the most decorated olympian of all time. Bro.
[01:53:32] Speaker B: Can I talk about what I'm guessed up about?
[01:53:34] Speaker A: No, I'm just saying, like, I'm saying. Seriously, in all the seriousness, you don't gassed up on this. In all seriousness, like, why not have a short game?
[01:53:42] Speaker B: I'm so dizzy. I think I'm gonna die right now. Why not have a. It's happening.
[01:53:46] Speaker A: Why not have a short game discipline? Why not have an eye closest to the pin? Why not have a bingo bango bongo in the Olympics?
[01:53:52] Speaker B: I don't know.
[01:53:53] Speaker A: Scotty Shelford could win ten of them in this Olympics. It'd be the most decorated olympian of all time. Yeah, that's what I'm guessed up about.
[01:54:00] Speaker B: I'm going through a fit right now where I'm literally dizzy. Like, it feels like I'm gonna pass out. You know what? I'm not gonna switch my gassed up completely, but let's talk about this. So that gets me gassed up is how come I know you get this? Because we've talked about it. How come just randomly, since I'm an adult now and I'm over 30, like, I just. I have dizzy spells where I just get vertigo and I'm like, what the fuck is happening to me right now? Am I gonna have an aneurysm? Am I gonna die? Like an 5 seconds? Like, it happened to me around lunchtime. There was an excuse that time because I was at a work event today and it was 90, 92 degrees out and we were in the sun all day. It was outside. So I was like, I'm just hot. I need to go get in the shade and get some water. And I did, and I was fine. Why is that again? Right now? I'm in an air conditioned studio just listening. I wasn't even gassed up. I was just listening to you get gassed up. And here I am just dizzy spell about to pass out. I don't really know what's happening.
[01:54:48] Speaker A: Need medicated maybe.
[01:54:51] Speaker B: I don't Medicaid.
[01:54:52] Speaker A: I've been Medicare.
I've been. I've been less. I've had less of those spells since I was medicated.
[01:55:03] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know. But anyways, I digress. My real gassed up is flash floods. The fuck, bro?
[01:55:09] Speaker A: Like, they're dangerous.
[01:55:10] Speaker B: I'm gassed up on these things for two reasons. One, I'm pissed off about them. They just destroyed everything.
[01:55:15] Speaker A: True.
[01:55:16] Speaker B: The one just hit. I know we were talking about this before the show. One just hit close to us in Portage county in Ohio and just like, took out a trailer park. Like, everybody's stuff was just done, flooded. It's over. Like, what the fuck?
[01:55:29] Speaker A: How does it just rain that fast, that quickly?
[01:55:31] Speaker B: Yeah, that's my second part of it. So not only am I pissed off that they just destroy everything I'm amazed at, like, yeah, how does it just rain so much, so fast that we have absolutely zero warning and everything's a flood.
[01:55:43] Speaker A: I can see, like, if you were in the Amazon. Cause I feel like it rains way different there.
[01:55:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:55:49] Speaker A: Like, I feel like it comes down so hard, you couldn't stand outside.
[01:55:52] Speaker B: We just live in, like, the. Like, most, like, most people, in case you aren't from Ohio and you're listening to this, which. Okay.
Other than brownsbackers, I don't really know what you're doing.
[01:56:02] Speaker A: Green Bay packers fans.
[01:56:03] Speaker B: Yeah. Idiots.
Yeah. I got a problem with you Green Bay packers fans. You three quarterbacks in 40 years. Fuck you.
Anyways, I mean, Ohio's pretty flat. Like, it's just. It's mostly just farmland.
[01:56:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:56:17] Speaker B: And so, like, what the fuck is happening here that there's just a flash flood that takes out whole communities?
Like, it's not like you live in a valley where you're just in a basin and everything's collecting there. Like, it's pretty hard for that to happen here.
[01:56:30] Speaker A: Well, that's what I never understand about a flash flood is because, like, my basement could flood because there's walls in here. There's no walls outside.
[01:56:37] Speaker B: Right.
Like, how did something just, like, that much stuff just, like, dump into this area right here?
[01:56:43] Speaker A: I remember working in Cleveland a couple times, there was flash floods that, like, filled the parking lot at, like, a Walmart.
[01:56:48] Speaker B: I'm like, the fuck happened there?
[01:56:50] Speaker A: How?
People were kayaking through the Burger King drive.
[01:56:54] Speaker B: Yeah, I remember that. That was wild.
[01:56:55] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:56:55] Speaker B: That's a few years ago in it.
[01:56:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:56:57] Speaker B: Like two or three years.
[01:56:58] Speaker A: But still, how does it happen? I mean, I get, like, the ground can't absorb all the rain that fast, but, like, why it does every other.
[01:57:05] Speaker B: Time, just not this time. Are you fucking me? Right? I'm really guessed up about this because it just doesn't make any sense. I'm just absolutely flabbergasted.
[01:57:13] Speaker A: Yeah. Flash floods are no good, man. And the thing is, is like, they come out of nowhere and you get the little warning on your tv. It's like, you got flash flood in your county. What?
[01:57:21] Speaker B: We're about to see a whole bunch of them because south florida is about to get hit with the hurricane. They. And they're literally. I heard it on the. This was the phrase they used on the. On the news today, is they said, yeah, it's a hurricane, but we're looking at this as more of a rain event.
[01:57:38] Speaker A: Excellent.
[01:57:38] Speaker B: Like, okay, what you saw flash floods? That's what you're telling me? It's gonna flash flood. And it's not even a flash flood at that point. It's just a flood because you guys have known about it for weeks.
[01:57:46] Speaker A: The worst rain happen of our lives was still Katrina.
[01:57:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:57:54] Speaker A: And we weren't even like in the epicenter. Like we just got Katrina like two weeks later. Like straight rain for two straight. It was so rainy and we missed like all of two days in camp and football and then every got hurts. We were practicing in the gym.
[01:58:06] Speaker B: Yeah. So. So bringing it back to our time in New Orleans, like I actually is one thing I'm, I'm looking forward to seeing is like, how much they've rebuilt the area like, like all of New Orleans after even been a ton of.
[01:58:19] Speaker A: Building down there to fix that.
[01:58:20] Speaker B: And I know there's still some problems down there because of that. And there's still some areas that are, you know, to this day completely devastated because of it.
[01:58:28] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, they got way worse than we did. But I'm just saying, like, from a rain event perspective, I remember, like, it rained for. It had to rain for at least ten days straight.
[01:58:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:58:35] Speaker A: Like hard rains.
[01:58:36] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[01:58:37] Speaker A: Like so hard you. We could not go outside. Everything was flooded.
[01:58:41] Speaker B: Fucking flash floods, man.
[01:58:43] Speaker A: Rain triple f.
Rain's crazy.
[01:58:47] Speaker B: Yeah, rain. Rain makes corn. Corn makes whiskey. Whiskey makes my baby frisky. Frisky.
[01:58:56] Speaker A: All right, so flash floods gets you up.
[01:58:58] Speaker B: Flash floods gets me up. You don't get me go. Don't get me started on flash floods. I could talk all day about flash floods.
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[02:00:24] Speaker B: I'm excited. I know we didn't preview it too much, but let's be honest, it's a preseason. I'm not going to preview a preseason game. I don't even really know who's actually going to play. Like, if that depth chart is legit or if it's just like what they released to release.
[02:00:35] Speaker A: I'm not gonna, like, break down the game per se, either. We'll break down individual performances and what we think there's football for us to dissect, but yes, there's football to talk about. So that's what you can expect next week.
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What do you got for us, Kenny? I want to hear these.
[02:01:37] Speaker A: It's time for facts for days.
[02:01:39] Speaker B: Facts for days.
[02:01:44] Speaker A: These are no particular theme today, just the potpourri. This is a potpourri effects for days.
[02:01:51] Speaker B: Sometimes these are the best days.
[02:01:52] Speaker A: This is like when you beat me.
[02:01:53] Speaker B: Cause you take. You take me in all different directions. I don't know what's happening.
[02:01:56] Speaker A: This is like when you beat me with the Gilgamesh.
[02:01:58] Speaker B: Is that the most devastating moment in your life?
[02:02:01] Speaker A: Today I lost a Nintendo jeopardy. Nintendo Entertainment center jeopardy.
[02:02:05] Speaker B: We were neck and neck down to final jeopardy.
[02:02:08] Speaker A: Epic of Gilgamesh, that was.
[02:02:10] Speaker B: That's what I wanted on the game.
[02:02:12] Speaker A: Came out in 1980.
[02:02:13] Speaker B: The oldest written story of all time.
[02:02:16] Speaker A: The game came out in 1986.
And so none of the answers were even really pop culture relevant to, like, our lives.
[02:02:23] Speaker B: Nope.
[02:02:24] Speaker A: But Epic of Gilgamesh, apparently was to you.
Hey, facts for days. Number one, snails. Oh, escargot. You had escargot go on a brown.
[02:02:35] Speaker B: Fan crew I did. It was good. And my. This is actually one of my favorite words that my daughter pronounces right now. She says snails.
[02:02:42] Speaker A: Well, you can let her know that snails have anywhere from $1,000 to 12,000 teeth in their heads.
[02:02:50] Speaker B: Wait, wait.
Yeah. Wait.
[02:02:56] Speaker A: Yeah, use the needles. They have 12,000 teeth.
[02:02:59] Speaker B: No way. How do they all fit in there? Like, how big are they? What the.
[02:03:02] Speaker A: Very small.
[02:03:03] Speaker B: I'm dizzy again.
[02:03:05] Speaker A: Gotta fit inside of his nails. Head.
[02:03:06] Speaker B: Oh, my God.
[02:03:07] Speaker A: Number two.
[02:03:09] Speaker B: Wait, wait. I'm just.
1000. Did you say 1000 to 12,000 or 1000 tons?
[02:03:15] Speaker A: 1000 to 12,000.
[02:03:18] Speaker B: That's a really big gap. Like, how do they depend on the snail?
[02:03:22] Speaker A: Depends on the snail?
[02:03:23] Speaker B: That doesn't even make sense.
[02:03:24] Speaker A: The snail makes it. The escargot. The teeth melt. No teeth.
[02:03:30] Speaker B: What?
[02:03:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[02:03:32] Speaker B: What's number two? I can't. I can't with number one. Number one has blown my mind. I'm already there.
[02:03:42] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm gonna pose this one as a question, just to let you guess.
[02:03:45] Speaker B: Okay. I don't usually guess things on facts for days, but I'm here.
[02:03:50] Speaker A: This american president had himself a pet hyena.
[02:03:58] Speaker B: Hyena, huh?
So we gotta be talking about a pretty eclectic fella.
[02:04:05] Speaker A: Fair, right? He's eclectic.
[02:04:10] Speaker B: I'm gonna go with Teddy Roosevelt.
[02:04:13] Speaker A: Wow. You win facts for how this works, but you win, I guess.
[02:04:19] Speaker B: Most eclectic president. It's just a weird thing that I know about Teddy Roosevelt. He had a lot of weird quirks about him.
[02:04:25] Speaker A: Teddy Roosevelt had himself a pet hyena.
[02:04:28] Speaker B: Nice, nice, brilliant portrayal of Teddy Roosevelt in night of museum by Robin Williams.
[02:04:35] Speaker A: Did he have a pet hyena? Is that why I screwed up?
[02:04:36] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't think he did. I don't think he did.
[02:04:39] Speaker A: Number three.
[02:04:41] Speaker B: That one wasn't exciting because I knew it. I'm pretty proud of myself. I would have beat you in final jeopardy again.
Yeah.
[02:04:49] Speaker A: Number three.
And then we'll bring it home to the Olympics.
[02:04:53] Speaker B: Okay.
[02:04:54] Speaker A: Well, at least to Paris anyway.
[02:04:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[02:04:56] Speaker A: The Eiffel Tower was originally proposed to be in the city of Barcelona in Spain.
[02:05:06] Speaker B: Ooh. Spain.
[02:05:11] Speaker A: Was rejected three times.
Thrice.
[02:05:17] Speaker B: Cockadoodle once.
I shall not deny him. Cockadoodle twice. I shall not deny him. Cock a doodle thrice.
I deny him.
[02:05:30] Speaker A: Spain rejected this thrice, fearing that it would become an unwieldy eyesore.
[02:05:36] Speaker B: What a bunch of idiots.
[02:05:38] Speaker A: Even after it was decided on Paris, it was still only supposed to be temporary for the Paris world fair in 1889.
[02:05:45] Speaker B: I did know that part of it.
[02:05:47] Speaker A: It was intended to be demolished in 1909 after a lifespan of 20 years.
But it's lasted considerably longer.
[02:05:57] Speaker B: A really long time.
[02:05:58] Speaker A: It proved to be incredibly important for communications, which is a good example of an original intention discovering a new purpose.
[02:06:07] Speaker B: Yeah, but there's so many 5g towers on that thing right now.
[02:06:10] Speaker A: Yeah. Anseline Dion.
[02:06:12] Speaker B: Anseline Dion. How do you think you can watch her so clearly? It's because there's 5g towers all over the place. Right next to her.
[02:06:20] Speaker A: Yeah. So it was almost a problem. But it wasn't like that. They fixed it.
But that's facts.
[02:06:28] Speaker B: For days, I thought you were good. I don't know.
[02:06:31] Speaker A: Don't just be a part of the problem, be the whole damn problem.
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[02:06:49] Speaker B: Www.tappittmedia.com shop did you watch any of SummerSlam? I didn't.
[02:06:55] Speaker A: Unfortunately, you missed. Missed a good show.
[02:06:58] Speaker B: I saw triple H come out and say, welcome to SummerSlam.
[02:07:04] Speaker A: I am the game.
[02:07:05] Speaker B: It's time to play the game. He knows it's time.
[02:07:08] Speaker A: It's time.
[02:07:10] Speaker B: It's time for the burning river sportscast. We're not. Oh, sorry.
[02:07:18] Speaker A: That's fine. That's it. That's all I got. That's the end.
That's the end of the show.
[02:07:24] Speaker B: Good night, Cleveland.
[02:07:24] Speaker A: Good night, Cleveland. I now have two loves in my life.
[02:07:30] Speaker B: Big city living in a voodoo world named Phyllis.
[02:07:34] Speaker A: Motorboat.
[02:07:35] Speaker B: You play the motorboat, you motorboat son of a bitch. You old sailor, you.
[02:07:40] Speaker A: You know, I was thinking during that interview.
[02:07:42] Speaker B: What? What were you think? Nothing. Because you don't have thoughts, cuz you're a brainless idiot.
[02:07:47] Speaker A: Wow.
[02:07:48] Speaker B: My name is Uhtred, son of Uhtred. By the way, I want my foreskin back. It doesn't matter what you think.
[02:07:54] Speaker A: Women's guide to. To anal sex. And it was the second edition who makes addition. The weather outside is weather.
[02:08:02] Speaker B: The other one, the finger. The finger. Eating food fingers. Oh, my God. My ass is full of shit. He's shit everywhere. Yes.
[02:08:11] Speaker A: Ejaculate all over my body. And my genitals.
[02:08:13] Speaker B: Yes. Oh, no. We suck again. You don't need fundamentals when you got heart.
[02:08:20] Speaker A: And Jesus.
[02:08:21] Speaker B: And Jesus.
[02:08:22] Speaker A: That's right.
[02:08:22] Speaker B: Touchdown. Anyway.
[02:08:24] Speaker A: What do you mean, funny? Funny how?
[02:08:25] Speaker B: How am I funny? It's going down. I'm yelling timber.
[02:08:30] Speaker A: Goddamn jets.
[02:08:32] Speaker B: Are we gonna.
[02:08:32] Speaker A: You're only in this.
[02:08:33] Speaker B: Did we start a meat podcast like the meat pod, slow roasted.
[02:08:42] Speaker A: The leads are weak. The leads are weak. Fucking leads are weak. You're weak.
[02:08:48] Speaker B: All I do is win, win, win no matter what. Erroneous. Erroneous both counts.
[02:08:53] Speaker A: Oh, Lord.
[02:08:53] Speaker B: I mean, when I. Last year when I went home, you know, my wife's pants hit the ground.
[02:08:58] Speaker A: Wow.
[02:08:58] Speaker B: But damn.
[02:08:59] Speaker A: I'm sorry. I hijacked your segment for a second to do some good podcasting.
You know why, mister? Cause you drove a Hyundai to get here tonight.
[02:09:09] Speaker B: I drove an $80,000 BMW.
[02:09:11] Speaker A: That's my name.
[02:09:13] Speaker B: I think we've officially lost all of our more conservative viewers, so I don't think they want to listen any longer. It's Mother Nature. I live my life a quarter mile at a time.
[02:09:24] Speaker A: Where's logo girl when you need her?
[02:09:25] Speaker B: I desperately want to make love this cheese girl.
[02:09:27] Speaker A: We need cheese girl now.
[02:09:29] Speaker B: Down, Joe Sanderson. Down, Joes Anderson.
[02:09:33] Speaker A: Who's canceled now? Who's canceled now?
[02:09:36] Speaker B: Probably me.
[02:09:36] Speaker A: You making it full of fat people.
[02:09:39] Speaker B: I'm not just you.
[02:09:41] Speaker A: We're a whole race, basically.
[02:09:44] Speaker B: No way. She's just straight. Just finger banging her salad like savior.
You first get shocked, and then you get the shocker.
[02:09:55] Speaker A: You like to see almost naked.
[02:09:57] Speaker B: That's cool, man.
[02:09:57] Speaker A: Whatever.
[02:09:58] Speaker B: No, no, no. Most people, like, they're driving along and they're like, in between meals. I'm a little hungry. I'm gonna have a granola bar, and it's like, I need a cheeseburger.
[02:10:07] Speaker A: Are you not entertained?
[02:10:09] Speaker B: Are you not entertained?
[02:10:13] Speaker A: Is this not why you're here?
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