Episode Transcript
[00:01:09] Speaker A: It's time for the Burning river sportscast. And it's time for a very special live off season, off schedule, off calendar, offshoot, super duper draft special spectacular. That's right, a very special edition of the Burning river sportscast. We are live at Nico's bar in Gyro. The draft is live in Pennsyl Tucky, and we're here to cover every minute of it. And we're so glad you could join us this evening. This is our super bowl, or so we've become accustomed. The most important night of the ever, Browns fans. It's the only night we can't lose because no matter what happens tonight, no matter what happens tonight, the Browns can't lose for another 140 days.
[00:01:44] Speaker B: That's true.
[00:01:45] Speaker A: So hope springs eternal with the promise of new, dynamic young talent ready to spill their blood to refresh the tree of Liberia. Tea?
[00:01:54] Speaker B: That was terrible.
[00:01:55] Speaker A: That didn't land, did it?
[00:01:56] Speaker B: That was awful.
Well, what are the worst I've ever heard?
[00:01:58] Speaker A: We'll have every moment live reaction, special guests, giveaways, and much, much more as we've been welcomed in tonight by the friendly staff, our good friends at North Wellton Brownsbackers and the staff at Nico's. We are ready to go. So let's make some picks and stick with us all night long. We'll break it all down for you next right here on the Burning River Sportscast.
[00:02:16] Speaker B: Yes. And we are. I just throw it out there, Elephant in the room. We're a little bit late tonight. Yeah, we're a little bit late, but technical difficulties, getting set up. That's what happens with live shows.
[00:02:25] Speaker A: Anything can happen live.
[00:02:27] Speaker B: I'm just saying that now because we're going to be flying through this first part of the show, so just.
[00:02:30] Speaker A: Just bear with us. We got a lot to get through before the bread draft actually starts, so, like 15 minutes.
[00:02:36] Speaker B: So.
[00:02:37] Speaker A: And. And I do want to take a moment to let everyone know that we can't be held liable for anything that happens, like behind us or around us, because we're live.
[00:02:45] Speaker B: The good news is it's a little dark, so you can't. You can't see it back.
[00:02:47] Speaker A: These people have free will. So if a booby falls out or someone gives Andrew Barry the middle finger, just roll with it. Yeah, they're not part of our show or yours. In the words of the immortal Miley Cyrus, they're just here to party in the usa.
[00:03:01] Speaker B: Your jokes are awful tonight for the
[00:03:04] Speaker A: actual open of the show.
[00:03:05] Speaker B: Yeah, let's go.
[00:03:06] Speaker A: So it's My turn.
[00:03:07] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:03:08] Speaker A: Yeah. So with that, welcome into our very special live draft edition of the Burning River Sportscast, presented by the fine folks at Tapping Media. I'm Kenny Thunder. My partner over here once ate a whole pizza and then tried to send it back. He is Red Hot Ronnie Jams.
[00:03:21] Speaker B: If it comes on top, I send it back.
[00:03:24] Speaker A: I send it back. I don't know. I'm Rusty. Rusty, look at your face, Rusty.
[00:03:28] Speaker B: Thank you.
[00:03:29] Speaker A: I don't know. I'm still on vacation mode. The Bone man is not with us currently, but he is around here somewhere.
I mean, he gets around because he's the big Bone Man.
[00:03:38] Speaker B: Make you make an appearance here. Say hi to the fine folks at home.
[00:03:44] Speaker C: Hey, how's everybody doing?
[00:03:45] Speaker A: There's the Bone Man.
[00:03:47] Speaker B: Don't. Don't mind his adult beverage here. He's getting turntable.
[00:03:50] Speaker A: He's walking around here. You can have it.
[00:03:52] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm an adult.
[00:03:53] Speaker A: He's drinking, eating gyros or Heroes or Giro's. I don't know what they call them.
[00:03:57] Speaker B: Pronounce it in your native language. That's fine with us.
[00:03:59] Speaker C: Sure. Yeah, no problem.
Great bar. Great. Great. Gyros. I like to say Gyro.
[00:04:04] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm gonna go with Gyro.
[00:04:05] Speaker A: Yeah, I'll go with Gyro. We'll ask Nico later.
[00:04:08] Speaker B: He'll tell us.
[00:04:09] Speaker A: He'll tell us the real way.
[00:04:10] Speaker B: Nico. He's probably Greek.
[00:04:11] Speaker A: Yeah, we're already going there.
I mean, xenophobia as a stereotypes in the.
[00:04:18] Speaker B: You know, what could you do?
[00:04:19] Speaker C: Everything comes out on the burner.
[00:04:21] Speaker A: Yeah, that's right.
So anyway, back to red.
[00:04:25] Speaker C: I'm out here.
[00:04:26] Speaker B: Guess what? I ate a whole pizza and then sent it back.
[00:04:29] Speaker C: How'd you do that?
[00:04:30] Speaker A: I tried to send it back.
[00:04:31] Speaker B: Yeah, I tried to send it back.
[00:04:32] Speaker A: Couldn't send it back.
[00:04:32] Speaker B: That's all. Get out of here, Bone.
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[00:05:24] Speaker A: It's delicious.
[00:05:26] Speaker B: Today on the show this is what you can look forward to. A recap of all the offseason drama leading up to the draft including trades, free agency, comments from the Haslams on Watson stadium, updates and of course the state of the Browns. Then we'll focus on the draft. We got draft speculation, our ideal scenarios, live commentary and the Browns make their selections at 6 and 20, 24 and then.
[00:05:44] Speaker A: And that's the end of the show.
[00:05:46] Speaker B: That's the end of the show. It's gonna be so much more there. We got a lot of lots of guests, lots of things are gonna happen. So let's jump right in and get things started by get ready to call the burger sportscats.
[00:05:55] Speaker D: Call that.
[00:05:56] Speaker B: Don't forget to call. Leave your hot takes on the hot take hotline. If we get some while we're doing this, we might put them on air. Who knows?
[00:06:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
Post the link. Good, good, good idea.
I'm gonna post the link to the live callins also called.
Also call the burninger sports guest on the screen. Oh, you're right.
[00:06:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:06:13] Speaker A: 3302-2780-8133-0222-780-8130, 227-8081.
[00:06:20] Speaker B: It's called the hot take hotline and with that we're going to start out with a special guest, Tim.
Join us.
We've got Tim Rudnick from the North Royalton Brownsbackers, president of North Royalton Brown package. Go ahead and take a seat.
[00:06:35] Speaker A: Have a seat.
[00:06:35] Speaker B: My friend kept on talk right here. Make sure you talk into the mic
[00:06:39] Speaker E: because it's, it's a little loud in here.
[00:06:41] Speaker B: Little noisy. Yeah, yeah.
Real quick, Tim, I, I, I apologize. We, we lost one of our, this is part of the technical difficulties. We lost one of our headphones and microphones. So I know you have somebody else that you guys are partnering with this year that is here.
[00:06:56] Speaker E: Yeah, he will be here.
[00:06:57] Speaker B: Okay. So we'll bring him on later for now.
[00:07:00] Speaker E: Awesome.
[00:07:01] Speaker B: What I want you to do Tim is. I just want you to tell us a little bit about the North Rom brands.
[00:07:06] Speaker E: Well. Well, first, I appreciate you guys coming out.
[00:07:08] Speaker B: Oh, absolutely.
[00:07:09] Speaker A: Thanks for having us.
[00:07:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:07:10] Speaker E: Good party. I hope so far.
[00:07:12] Speaker B: It's great.
[00:07:13] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:07:13] Speaker E: So NRBB has been here since 2018. 2017. 2018. I don't know.
We work really hard with great partner here with Nico raising funds that stay right here in our community.
You'll talk to Empower Sports in a little bit where we're really focusing our efforts this year.
Brownsbackers here has been a real gift. I got real fortunate. I have a great member base in a great partner with Nico.
It's a hell of a game day event. So anybody who's out in board on a Browns day, come out.
Come out early because it fills up.
So that's. That's kind of us.
[00:07:58] Speaker B: Yeah, it is. It is crazy. There's. There's brownsbackers groups everywhere. So this isn't just a. I mean, obviously, if you're in the Cleveland area, come check out north, the north roads and Brownsback. But brownsbackers are all over the place. And I'm not talking just the United States. I'm talking the entire world.
[00:08:11] Speaker E: Thirteen countries.
[00:08:13] Speaker B: Absolutely. And how many. How many chapters are we up to now?
[00:08:16] Speaker E: Somewhere in the 340 to 350 range.
[00:08:19] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:08:20] Speaker A: That's a lot.
[00:08:20] Speaker B: It's a lot. It's a lot. I believe it still holds the world record for the biggest organized fan club
[00:08:28] Speaker E: in the entire professional sports. Yes.
Just imagine if we were good.
Yeah.
[00:08:33] Speaker A: I imagine that every day of my life.
[00:08:36] Speaker B: One day, maybe this is the draft. We turn it around. Maybe this is the one.
[00:08:39] Speaker E: This is the year.
[00:08:40] Speaker B: Yeah. So no. What excited. I know you guys, obviously there's this event. You have your draft special party.
What other events do you guys have coming up in the off season and into this coming year?
[00:08:51] Speaker E: So we always have a golf out and that's this Sunday after Father's Day this year down in Medina.
You can look on our Facebook page or on Nico's webpage for that. That's a great event.
We're partnering with Empower Sports this year.
They provide athletic and fitness opportunities for people with developmental disabilities.
It's going to be a great partnership and we're working with them not only the first weekend in May on their track and field day, we're also the title sponsor with Nico for their flag football program that they provide to the people they work with.
So really excited to be working with them.
And the whole member group is being getting involved through volunteering and such. It's, it's going to be a good year.
[00:09:43] Speaker B: It's an exciting new chapter for, for this chapter.
[00:09:46] Speaker E: Absolutely. And you know, the, probably the last then is over the last three years we raised about $25,000 that we donated to North Royalton to help them build a new safety town village that it looks like it's going to be finished probably before week one.
[00:10:07] Speaker A: Nice.
[00:10:08] Speaker E: So really excited about that too.
[00:10:10] Speaker B: Nice. Yeah. No exciting stuff for sure. I mean, I don't know. It sounds to me. Are you guys trying to make another run at chapter of the year? What's going on?
I know you guys have, you guys have been chapter year before.
[00:10:20] Speaker E: Yes, we were in 2019.
So up until a month ago I was on the Worldwide Leadership Council plc so we weren't eligible because I was on the council.
My term was up. So I am no longer on the council, which makes us eligible again.
[00:10:39] Speaker A: So they're in the running.
[00:10:41] Speaker E: It could be a thing.
[00:10:42] Speaker B: I'm not saying that we're like a good luck charm or anything, but I'm
[00:10:45] Speaker A: pretty sure we have the Midas touch.
[00:10:46] Speaker B: The last thing three and like four of the last five been prominently featured on our show. Yeah.
[00:10:53] Speaker E: Well, you know, we still have some great souvenirs from the last club of the year party here over there and the fire thing. And so we're ready to do that again. So we'll see stars align.
[00:11:07] Speaker B: Right. Fingers crossed. We'll be pulling for you guys. I mean, you guys are doing great things here and I know the community really appreciates everything that you guys are doing to raise money and donate to these good costs.
[00:11:17] Speaker E: All right, question for you guys.
[00:11:19] Speaker A: Sure.
[00:11:20] Speaker E: What's your top track when the Raiders trade the first overall pick?
[00:11:24] Speaker B: I think we just sit here in disbelief for a little while because prepared
[00:11:29] Speaker A: for just about every other scenario tonight, that one I do not know what to do with.
[00:11:34] Speaker E: Just in case.
[00:11:35] Speaker B: Yeah, Tim, listen, we, I, unfortunately we do have to speed things up just because we were behind.
Two questions. One, what do you want the Browns to do in the draft?
[00:11:45] Speaker E: God, I don't want them not to suck fair.
I'm a best player available guy, you know, so if, if Love's there or if Downs is there, I think you gotta take them. Right. You have to.
[00:11:58] Speaker B: Don't hate it.
We're not, we're not giving you much commentary on our end because we got some coming up here and if they're
[00:12:06] Speaker E: not there, I, I, I'm more a Tyson guy than a Tate guy. I love Carnell Tate, don't get me wrong, but I probably go wide receiver before I go offensive line in round one.
[00:12:19] Speaker B: Okay. Okay.
[00:12:21] Speaker A: I like it.
[00:12:22] Speaker B: Okay. And what I asked you what you want the Browns to do. What are the Browns actually going to do? Like, that's. That's what I want to know.
[00:12:27] Speaker E: They're going to trade down to 13, and they're going to take a backup long snapper.
[00:12:34] Speaker B: Isn't it wild?
This is what we've gotten to. This is like we just expect them to do something absolutely awesome.
[00:12:43] Speaker E: Welcome to the new. The new age of the Browns.
[00:12:46] Speaker B: Right? New age. Yeah. Basically everything since 1999.
[00:12:49] Speaker E: So that's.
[00:12:50] Speaker B: That's what it is.
[00:12:50] Speaker A: How long have you been a Browns fan?
[00:12:53] Speaker E: Since, let's see, I was born. We won't say that.
55 years.
[00:13:00] Speaker A: So you have seen it all.
[00:13:01] Speaker E: Oh, yeah.
[00:13:02] Speaker A: You've seen the Browns fail in everything.
[00:13:04] Speaker B: Go. Yeah, yeah.
[00:13:06] Speaker E: I saw good years. I saw bad years. I saw ups, downs, really good years. I saw them go on. Yeah, that sucked. But. But yeah, yeah, I've seen a lot now.
[00:13:15] Speaker A: You reminded me it could be worse, right? They could be gone.
[00:13:18] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:18] Speaker A: At least we do have a team here.
[00:13:19] Speaker B: We do have a team.
[00:13:20] Speaker E: There is that.
There is that. And we're going to have a new stadium.
[00:13:24] Speaker A: That's.
Are you excited about the new stadium?
[00:13:26] Speaker E: I actually got invited to the groundbreaking next week.
[00:13:29] Speaker A: Wow. Look at you, El Presidente.
[00:13:31] Speaker E: Well, I think what it was is they were out of people and they needed some bodies, so they started.
[00:13:37] Speaker B: Don't sell yourself short.
[00:13:38] Speaker C: You.
[00:13:38] Speaker B: You've got connections.
[00:13:40] Speaker A: There's a knee.
[00:13:41] Speaker E: Small Polish guy we can stick in here, so.
[00:13:44] Speaker B: Perfect.
[00:13:45] Speaker E: There you go.
[00:13:45] Speaker B: Yeah, we have that in common. I'm also Polish. Not. Not.
You're way smaller than me. But, you know, we won't go there.
[00:13:51] Speaker D: No.
[00:13:53] Speaker B: Tim, listen, we really appreciate you being on. Like I said, you will touch base at some point, I'm sure later on, but we're gonna jump into. Actually, it's about time for Nico to come over and bring us some food. I think so.
[00:14:04] Speaker E: All right, I'll go hunt him down.
[00:14:05] Speaker B: Yeah, go get him.
[00:14:06] Speaker A: Thank you for joining us. Thank you for having us.
[00:14:09] Speaker E: Glad you guys are here.
[00:14:10] Speaker A: Appreciate it. Thank you.
That's Tim.
Tim was here, so. And we're. We're about a couple minutes away here from the draft, so we're just waiting for things to get started.
Looking forward to another special guest. We got special guests all night long coming in, coming at you. And then obviously, as the draft gets underway, we will be giving you Our thoughts on everything. Because that's what you came here for.
[00:14:34] Speaker B: Yeah. And right now what we're going to do is we're going to do a quick off season recap. It will be interrupted by our food here shortly, but that's what happens when you're late.
[00:14:40] Speaker A: I was going to say this is going to be a really quick off season review. We're going to do everything in 64 seconds.
[00:14:44] Speaker B: No, we're going to do a couple things and then we're going to eat and then we're going to finish it up as we get through the first couple picks of the drink draft. So I don't know how I'm gonna
[00:14:50] Speaker A: go all night without peeing.
[00:14:54] Speaker B: It's gonna be good.
Anyways, let's get an offseason recap. The Haslams came out and said that it could still be a home run. Talking about Deshaun Watson if he plays this year and plays well.
[00:15:06] Speaker A: Are we still having this conversation?
[00:15:08] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:15:08] Speaker B: It's been zero days since we talked about Deshaun Watson.
[00:15:11] Speaker A: Where's our whiteboard?
[00:15:12] Speaker B: They said it. They literally about faced on the entire thing. They came out and said it was a big swing and a miss. And he used another. Not only did he say it, he used another baseball reference to bring it back home and say, yeah, it could be a home run.
[00:15:25] Speaker A: I just.
[00:15:26] Speaker C: I can't.
[00:15:27] Speaker A: I know.
[00:15:27] Speaker B: And I aspires to be the Guardians. He's like, I wish my team was good like the Guardians.
[00:15:31] Speaker A: And I keep seeing reports from. Wow. Let there be light.
[00:15:34] Speaker B: Yeah, see, I goto threw in the clutch.
I got you.
[00:15:39] Speaker A: I can see this now. See, luckily the light's more on you than it is on me.
[00:15:43] Speaker B: I'm much handsomer than you.
[00:15:46] Speaker A: I don't know about that. But you're not nearly as fat.
[00:15:48] Speaker B: That's true. You lost 120 pounds.
[00:15:51] Speaker A: Still fat. Yeah, that's right.
I keep seeing these reports that, especially with, you know, the mini camp going on, that he looks good and it's taking kind of the one reps.
So I don't know. I don't know if I can do this again.
[00:16:09] Speaker B: Guys.
[00:16:09] Speaker A: It's live. So, you know, people are gonna do. They're just gonna. They're here playing jukebox.
[00:16:15] Speaker B: Yeah.
But yeah, so that. That happened. Apparently desean Watson might be a home run still. I don't really know how. Even if he played phenomenal this year, was a Pro Bowler with the playoffs, like, how does that make this whole thing a success?
[00:16:27] Speaker A: Anything short of winning the Super Bowl I don't know.
[00:16:30] Speaker B: That's the only way.
[00:16:32] Speaker A: AFC Champions, maybe you get to the AFC champion.
[00:16:34] Speaker B: I guess if you want to get technical, sure, there's a chance it could
[00:16:36] Speaker A: be a home run, but that is a small minute possibility.
[00:16:41] Speaker B: Yeah. Slim to none.
[00:16:43] Speaker A: Slim to none.
[00:16:44] Speaker B: Stadium updates. We just talked about Tim going breaking.
[00:16:47] Speaker A: I can't talk.
[00:16:48] Speaker B: Great news for Browns fans. Even if you don't think so yet. The stadium is gonna be phenomenal. Like, I know everybody wants to talk about it and they're like, I don't know, it might not be good. It's gonna be great.
[00:16:56] Speaker A: We're counting down the days now to day one. Go live.
[00:16:59] Speaker E: Day one.
[00:17:00] Speaker B: Yeah. Once this thing is done, you'll see, you'll sit down in one of those seats for a game, you'll be like, I see why they built this.
[00:17:05] Speaker A: And I'm already starting to hear rumblings of like, some of the, maybe the neighbors that are going to be able to move into the plaza. So, like, it's going to be great for the entire community.
[00:17:13] Speaker B: Absolutely, absolutely. So just get ready for that because it's going to be good.
Next up here, key 2026 free agent signings and additions for the Browns. Sorry, I'm having trouble with my mic. We're live.
[00:17:24] Speaker A: We haven't done this in a while.
Yeah, it's a Super Bowl.
[00:17:30] Speaker B: We got Jenkins from bunch of offensive linemen. We basically tried to overhaul the offensive line between re signings, free agent pickups, and then our, our trade. So we got Jenkins as a center guard. He's coming over from the Packers. Two year, $24 million. Likely start at center or guard. One of the two positions. Zion Johnson, uh, from the Chargers. We signed into three years, 49 points.
[00:17:53] Speaker A: Probably overpaid for this one, but. Yeah, but, but, but they need a new offensive line.
[00:17:59] Speaker B: We literally had nobody, so we had to get somebody.
But yeah, strengthening the interior of the offensive line.
[00:18:05] Speaker A: And we're still not even sure about Joel Batonio. I mean, he's gone.
[00:18:08] Speaker B: Maybe he's kind of gone.
He might be gone. He could be back.
[00:18:11] Speaker D: He could be gone.
[00:18:11] Speaker A: He could be back.
[00:18:14] Speaker B: This is free agent signings and additions right now. So dj, keep the show on track. How do I say this?
[00:18:20] Speaker A: Nico is here.
[00:18:21] Speaker B: Oh, Nico.
Go ahead and throw your headphones on, Nico. And yeah, yeah, we're here.
We'll come back to the, the offseason recap.
[00:18:32] Speaker A: We'll pause that because we have a special guest. The special guest tonight.
[00:18:36] Speaker B: This is the Nico of Nico's Bar. And how do you Say it.
[00:18:41] Speaker A: Nico's bar.
[00:18:42] Speaker D: And Euros.
[00:18:43] Speaker B: Euros.
[00:18:43] Speaker A: Euros.
[00:18:44] Speaker B: We were saying gyros. Do you like.
[00:18:45] Speaker A: No, no, no, no.
And here it's euros.
[00:18:49] Speaker B: Okay. We've been. I stand corrected.
[00:18:53] Speaker A: Is that a year? Is that like Europe? Like a EU Euro? Is that the. So to explain it properly, euro in Greek means circular.
So we have it here on the spit. It goes circular. That's where we cut it. Interesting.
We might have to take a look at that later.
[00:19:15] Speaker B: I just want to see the spinning meat. Yeah, see, we gotta see what happens.
[00:19:18] Speaker A: Spinning. It's right behind us, guys.
[00:19:23] Speaker B: Yeah, and so no, the bar is fantastic. I understand you guys obviously are hosting the all the watch parties on Sundays for the Cleveland Browns, for the northern routes and Browns backers. How has that been?
[00:19:35] Speaker F: Awesome.
[00:19:35] Speaker A: I mean, I couldn't have picked a better president, better group of people. We do a lot of charity work for the city of North Rollton and it's. For me it was very professional.
So we picked the right people. You know, Tim is great. He's a great president.
He's engaged.
Everything we do, we do for the community here in North Ron and surrounding cities, to be honest with you.
[00:20:02] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And I know he just gave us a number. He said over the last three years, $25,000 for charity.
[00:20:08] Speaker A: I mean it makes me so happy.
[00:20:10] Speaker F: I.
[00:20:10] Speaker A: And the biggest thing that I love is the fact that we do these for college. We give thousand dollar scholarships to the local North Roton and we don't just give them out. I mean they have to do an essay. And then his group that they have, himself, the president, the vice president, everyone, they analyze everything. And it's a group of good people that take care of these kids.
And these kids are awesome. And we love the fact that they go to college and hopefully one day they can acknowledge us. Absolutely.
[00:20:45] Speaker B: Absolutely. Yeah.
Yeah. All these Browns backers groups, I mean the things they're doing are phenomenal. It's just a, a bunch of Browns fans getting together and, and watching the Browns and turning that into something good in every single chapter has been phenomenal. Like, I don't know, I mean really, everybody's just a copycat of them at this point. Is. Is they thought of this. It was, it was the brainchild of, of Cleveland Browns fans everywhere. So it's just a phenomenal thing that we could claim as our.
[00:21:13] Speaker A: Well, we're very passionate group.
[00:21:14] Speaker B: Yeah, very passionate. You got that right.
[00:21:17] Speaker A: Nico. How long, how long has Nico's bar in Euro been around here? Well, in north rolton, it's like 14 years. But June 1st will be a total of 34 years. Wow. That's awesome.
Wow.
[00:21:31] Speaker B: That's.
[00:21:32] Speaker F: You wanna.
[00:21:33] Speaker B: I'm. That's one year younger than me.
[00:21:37] Speaker A: All right, so I'm showing my age right now.
[00:21:41] Speaker B: I. I wasn't gonna go there, but I did.
[00:21:42] Speaker A: I was gonna say he looks like the youngest one on the. At the table.
[00:21:45] Speaker B: He really does.
[00:21:46] Speaker A: 56 years old, guys. He looks great.
Way better than me. I lost £120. I'm still fat.
[00:21:51] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah,
[00:21:54] Speaker A: yeah.
[00:21:56] Speaker B: So do you have any other locations, or is it just this one?
[00:21:59] Speaker A: So we have the. We have the satellite locations. The to goes. We have one in Bravview Heights, one in Brunswick, and one in Northridge.
[00:22:06] Speaker B: Nice. Nice.
And is there. What would you say to anybody that. Because I know, like, we got. We got Kenny over here who's, like, terrified to try a Euro. Like, he's like, I don't know. I don't like Euros.
[00:22:18] Speaker E: Why? Right.
[00:22:19] Speaker A: I just never had one. I don't know.
It'll change your life, brother.
I mean, I might give it a shot tonight. We'll see.
[00:22:27] Speaker B: So what would you say to somebody like Kenny? I mean, obviously, it'll change your life, but is there any, like.
[00:22:33] Speaker A: Well, you definitely got to try it. I mean, I'll tell you what I tell my kids.
[00:22:37] Speaker F: You don't.
[00:22:37] Speaker A: You don't like it, then don't eat it again. But try it. Give it a shot. Now, do you still love your Euros even though you.
[00:22:43] Speaker D: You.
[00:22:44] Speaker A: You spend all this time obviously selling them, making them? Absolutely.
[00:22:48] Speaker F: Yes. Is that.
[00:22:49] Speaker A: Is that your favorite food?
[00:22:52] Speaker B: My favorite food? No, I wouldn't say that.
[00:22:55] Speaker A: I wouldn't say that. But it's in the top. It's. It's in the top five. Top five. That's fair.
[00:22:59] Speaker B: Nice. So, listen, obviously, we're here for the draft.
It's. It's just started.
[00:23:05] Speaker A: The Raiders are on the clock.
[00:23:07] Speaker B: Raiders are on the clock right now, but what's your ideal draft scenario for the Browns here?
[00:23:11] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Listen, I'm a hardcore Browns fan. I always have in my whole life, so I just pray that they pick and do the right thing.
[00:23:20] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:21] Speaker A: I don't want them going down or when. 6, 6 and 20. 6 and 24.
So, listen, all of us, we love our Browns, good or bad.
So we just want the right pick. And obviously, I mean, these guys are coming out of college. They're young kids, so we. We want to pick the best person that we can to make the team better.
[00:23:45] Speaker F: Yep.
[00:23:45] Speaker A: For all of us.
[00:23:46] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:48] Speaker A: For the Fan base for the Browns themselves, you know, Raiders, unfortunately. I'm going to say this out loud. It's my secondary team so I mean is that going to be the right pick for them? I have no idea.
[00:24:01] Speaker B: It's going to be the pick though.
It's going to be the pick.
[00:24:04] Speaker A: I think so too.
[00:24:06] Speaker B: So I asked you what you want the Browns to do. Basically what, what I'm gathering is you, you want them to not mess it up.
[00:24:13] Speaker A: That's exactly what I'm saying. I'm very excited to be on site tonight because we've never done like one of these before. And when the pick comes in, here's going to be an audible either cheering or groaning based on what happens if the trade gets the pit, the pick gets traded or something.
[00:24:29] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. And so I guess my follow up question to you Nico is going to be what do you think the Browns are actually going to do in this draft?
[00:24:39] Speaker A: Well, I hope, I hope we get an offensive lineman.
I mean we listen anywhere you want
[00:24:45] Speaker B: it like a, like a good one.
[00:24:47] Speaker A: The little that I know about football played football in high school, non college.
It starts from the line, opposite line, defensive line.
If you, if you don't have an opposite line to protect your quarterback or your running backs and give the quarterback time to pass, then it's no good. Yeah, defense, same thing. Now we have an awesome defense we have the last couple of years which is great. We need an offensive line to protect the quarterback and give him time to throw the ball and to set up any scheme that they have when it comes to the running game.
Well, we know Fernando Mendoza is going to be the quarterback for the Raiders this year at least some point probably. Who's your quarterback? One for the Browns this year.
So I don't know if you guys
[00:25:37] Speaker F: noticed when you guys walked into this place.
[00:25:39] Speaker A: I still have a shrine of Baker Mayfield.
I, I do too.
[00:25:44] Speaker B: I sit on the opposite side of our studio. We stared at every, every not taking it down.
[00:25:50] Speaker A: All right. And the reason why I say that because we need heart.
You know since Bernie Kar we haven't had anyone so we need someone in the pocket.
Cleveland in my opinion, my opinion only. It's a blue collar so you need hardcore pound it, grind it, open up the offense for the passing game. It's we're cold weather team and we need to go to with the basics
[00:26:19] Speaker D: that we did back in the 80s
[00:26:21] Speaker A: when I was a kid and we were in the playoffs.
So we need a line, we need an offensive line to take care of the quarterback.
Establish the running game and then open up for the passing game to rip it.
[00:26:37] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[00:26:38] Speaker A: So you heard it here first. Nico wants the big uglies tonight. That's what he's looking for.
[00:26:42] Speaker B: Isn't it crazy that, like, you know, you started this. This.
Everything you just said there, you started with, you know, you played high school football, you got a little bit of football knowledge. You didn't play college, but doesn't matter the level of football knowledge that you have. Everybody knows you need an offensive line.
You can't ignore it for multiple seasons in a row.
[00:27:03] Speaker A: It's unbelievable. You can. You just win five and six games every year.
[00:27:07] Speaker B: That's what happens.
[00:27:08] Speaker A: Well, we don't want that anymore in Cleveland. Well, no, I agree. I don't want that in Cleveland.
[00:27:12] Speaker B: I mean, we want playoffs. We could. I can really get into this. Nico and I could say that it's probably not happening until Ab's gone, but, you know, so here's the thing.
[00:27:20] Speaker A: Here's the thing for me, I. I got. I get kicked twice a year, meaning on a personal level when it comes to the Browns fan, and then as a business level. So when they're not playing good. Yeah, business sucks.
[00:27:35] Speaker F: Yep.
[00:27:35] Speaker A: So they leave when they're doing good. You can't walk in this place.
Walk in this place. Yep. I open at 11 o' clock and I tell my. I write my regulars. I go, 10:30, the doors are open in the back and walk in and, you know, we interview brownsbackers on our show every week during the season, and we hear that it's a consistent theme. Right. As the team starts losing, the crowds kind of thin out a little bit. And it's a sad thing, but every time, the conversation always goes back to like, can you imagine what it's going to be like in this town when this team is good? Consistently, brother. Unbelievable. It would be unbelievable. So my high school friends and mine, my senior year, we put a pool
[00:28:15] Speaker C: together
[00:28:18] Speaker A: when the Browns are going to win the super bowl and go to
[00:28:21] Speaker F: the super bowl together.
[00:28:23] Speaker A: Still going on. So we have a pot.
Our pot is over $40,000.
Over $40,000. Every year we throw the money in. There's 15 of us.
So when they do go to the
[00:28:34] Speaker B: super bowl, we can afford a ticket.
[00:28:36] Speaker A: Well, yeah,
[00:28:39] Speaker B: back then it was cool, but now.
[00:28:42] Speaker A: Okay, so maybe we'll just go outside the stadium and have a couple beers in the parking lot.
[00:28:47] Speaker B: Still go.
[00:28:48] Speaker A: But we're good.
[00:28:49] Speaker E: We're good.
[00:28:49] Speaker A: You can take the plane ticket out there. Yeah, that's awesome.
[00:28:53] Speaker B: Our food just came and it finally.
[00:28:56] Speaker A: It looks phenomenal.
[00:28:59] Speaker B: And so far it is phenomenal. And I wish I could show you a close up.
[00:29:04] Speaker A: We did get the lights on though, so you can see a little bit. Oh, we got the first pack. Oh, there he is. Fernando Mendoza.
Bone is serving us. Thank you both.
Appreciate you. Nico, can I just say, since the moment that we got here and, and look, I know it's hard out there for small businesses all over hiring, it continues to be very difficult to do. Your staff has been so incredibly nice to us and just gracious and I was. And we don't deserve it.
[00:29:35] Speaker B: Yeah, we don't. Because, I mean, I was running around doing stuff and I was short with people. People. Not that I was trying to be rude or anything, but I was just like focused and why this was.
[00:29:42] Speaker A: In general, we're not important people. Like it's. And they were just flying around like doing anything that we asked for. Like, they were so nice and so on top of it tonight. Just incredible, incredible job putting together this, this restaurant. The staff.
[00:29:55] Speaker B: I can't stop eating this gyro.
[00:30:00] Speaker A: No gyro.
Say it wrong when he's sitting next to you.
[00:30:03] Speaker B: I know, I know.
I got. I got all caught up and it was delicious.
[00:30:08] Speaker A: But listen, I've been very fortunate with my staff. It's a great community all around. All around my staff. I mean, my average front of the house staff has been here for, with me for 12 years.
[00:30:19] Speaker B: Wow, that's amazing.
[00:30:20] Speaker F: That's unusual.
[00:30:21] Speaker B: Especially in the restaurant industry. We. I have family in the restaurant industry. And it's, you know, keep it.
[00:30:25] Speaker A: No, it's very good.
[00:30:27] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:30:27] Speaker A: So can I share a secret with you guys?
[00:30:29] Speaker F: Sure. So about the Browns. Yeah.
[00:30:31] Speaker A: It's not. It's not an official deal.
[00:30:34] Speaker B: But we're live right now. You're that right.
[00:30:36] Speaker A: We're live. Okay, so it's not official, but we might have a Nico's Bar and Girls outside the new dome stadium.
[00:30:45] Speaker E: Clark.
[00:30:46] Speaker B: Oh, hell yeah.
[00:30:47] Speaker A: That is incredible.
[00:30:48] Speaker B: Hell yes.
[00:30:49] Speaker A: That's breaking news. We just broke news.
Exactly. I just gave you the dime diamond right now. That might be the most pivotal moment in this show's history. When that is awesome news, when this
[00:31:01] Speaker B: I'm going to speak it into existence. I know you said it's not official, but when this happens, can we do a live show from your grand opening?
[00:31:09] Speaker A: Brother, if you guys are not there, I want to be upset. Oh, yes.
[00:31:13] Speaker B: We're coming back.
[00:31:14] Speaker A: We're coming back.
[00:31:14] Speaker C: We'll be there.
[00:31:15] Speaker B: We will be there.
[00:31:16] Speaker A: That's going to be Incredible.
[00:31:18] Speaker B: But listen, Nico, we are. I. We really enjoyed you being on. We appreciate it. We are going to have to move out of the show, unfortunately. Draft started and we're not really covering it right now.
But we do appreciate it. Like Kenny said, everything's been phenomenal. The food is awesome. I'm gonna be chowing down on this. Ken's gonna be doing a show by himself for a little while, but, yeah, we will check back in with you later. Thank you so much for the accommodation.
[00:31:42] Speaker A: I appreciate you guys coming. Appreciate it. Thank you very much.
You have no idea how much this means to me. And like I said, like you said.
Yeah.
Breaking news, breaking news. Pivotal moments happen here first. And Nico's at Nico. And I will promise you guys, when this does. When this does happen, I want you guys at Nico's at the stadium. Book.
[00:32:07] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[00:32:08] Speaker A: Grand opening, day one, first forecast. Nico's match made in heaven. Euros for everybody.
[00:32:13] Speaker B: I know what I'm doing in 2029.
Thanks a lot.
[00:32:18] Speaker A: Thank you very much.
[00:32:19] Speaker D: Thank you.
[00:32:20] Speaker A: Pleasure to meet you.
[00:32:21] Speaker E: Thank you.
[00:32:23] Speaker A: There it is, friends. Nico from Nico's. Breaking news on the show, Fernando Mendoza. That's old news.
[00:32:31] Speaker B: That's old news.
[00:32:32] Speaker A: It's old news.
[00:32:32] Speaker B: We're not gonna talk about it.
[00:32:35] Speaker A: We got way bigger fish to fry now.
[00:32:37] Speaker B: Absolutely. Wow. This is.
I didn't know we broke news.
[00:32:41] Speaker C: We.
[00:32:42] Speaker A: We officially are breaking news.
[00:32:43] Speaker B: I thought we were out of that game, but now we're back in.
[00:32:45] Speaker A: What do we. So what are we doing now? I got food here. Trying to eat.
[00:32:49] Speaker B: I'm so distracted. And we are live, and I don't
[00:32:51] Speaker A: give a no on the radio, guys. This isn't easy. Like, on the radio when this happens,
[00:32:56] Speaker B: like, 175 things going on at once.
[00:32:58] Speaker A: They go to commercial breaks.
[00:33:00] Speaker B: Pick us in. The jets pick us in.
[00:33:01] Speaker A: They go to commercial breaks. They step away. They can go to the bathroom. We are live and we're on the air. We're just for, like, four hours straight.
Like, an away message. Like, if you're at work and you need to put on your im. Out of office.
[00:33:14] Speaker F: Yep.
[00:33:14] Speaker B: You want to continue covering, come back in 15 minutes.
We're gonna come back an hour into
[00:33:20] Speaker A: the show, and I'm losing my voice.
[00:33:21] Speaker B: Yeah, you are. You're an idiot.
[00:33:24] Speaker A: I'm lightheaded.
[00:33:27] Speaker B: We skipped over a guest. We surprised the agenda.
[00:33:30] Speaker A: The New York jets pick is in.
Arvel Reese. It's coming.
It's gonna happen. Probably.
I kind of want to open Twitter to, like, see if I can get the early updates.
[00:33:45] Speaker B: Yeah, you do that.
[00:33:46] Speaker A: But I'm afraid to have Twitter open in public because it's such.
[00:33:49] Speaker B: Oh, man, this is the wild West. On Twitter.
[00:33:51] Speaker A: Anything.
[00:33:51] Speaker B: Ever since Elon took over Twitter. I'm sorry, X.
[00:33:55] Speaker A: Anything goes out there.
[00:33:56] Speaker B: Like I'm. I can't open. I can't open that anywhere in public because it's just the wildest thing. I don't even understand the algorithm because
[00:34:03] Speaker A: I'm just like, why would I want to see this?
I'm getting Shawn Michaels clips popping up here. Sexy man doing a dance. Yeah.
[00:34:12] Speaker C: All right.
[00:34:12] Speaker B: I don't know what we're doing here. We were covering the off season, so let's just try and speed through that some more. Some more pickups.
We got defensive end for. Did that actually go through the. The deal from the Bills? Wasn't that off?
[00:34:26] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't even know that that's legitimate.
[00:34:28] Speaker F: Is it?
[00:34:29] Speaker B: I think.
[00:34:29] Speaker A: I think I take that out of the note.
[00:34:30] Speaker B: Yeah, I think they called it off. My bad. Quincy Williams from the jets, two years, 13 million.
[00:34:37] Speaker A: Is he the Joker?
Huh? Is he the Joker?
[00:34:41] Speaker B: I don't know what that means.
[00:34:42] Speaker A: I think this is the guy that dressed up as the Joker for Halloween. They're calling him the Joker.
[00:34:46] Speaker B: David Bailey. Oh, Texas Tech.
[00:34:48] Speaker A: He plays a made up position.
[00:34:50] Speaker B: Okay, okay, hang on. This actually is really interesting because they go, David Bailey here.
I know all the Browns fans. Most of the Browns fans are homers for Ohio State, guys. I mean, it just is what it is. We're not trying to get around that.
[00:35:03] Speaker A: You think this is the start of the Arvell Reese drop?
[00:35:06] Speaker B: I think that this is where we're gonna. We're already starting to get into. There's three top guys on defense for Ohio State that are projected as top 10 picks.
[00:35:15] Speaker A: He's gonna slide in the fifth round. We're. We're.
[00:35:17] Speaker B: No, he's not. Just shut your mouth. We're two in, two picks in. She's only four picks to the Browns.
One of those guys is going to fall to us. And I think we've talked about before. I didn't want to get into draft scenarios just yet because we're all messed up. But we're.
[00:35:33] Speaker A: We're probably going to have to just start talking draft scenarios.
[00:35:34] Speaker B: Yeah. My idea.
[00:35:36] Speaker A: This happening right now.
[00:35:37] Speaker B: It is. We can do the offseason recap some other time.
So. Yeah, I mean, obviously, you know, we're. We're talking for. For draft scenario. We got the. I think it's the consensus across the board. Most people want it to go receiver, offensive Line or offensive line receiver, one of the two right.
[00:35:56] Speaker A: Positions of need.
[00:35:57] Speaker B: Positions of need. Right.
However, you heard Andrew Barry in his press conference.
[00:36:01] Speaker A: He said we don't need nothing.
[00:36:04] Speaker B: He said, he said the draft is for long term investments, not necessarily guys that you need.
[00:36:09] Speaker A: It was interesting because he actually clarified that, qualified that with positions of need are filled in free agency and we saw them take swings on offensive lineman in free agency.
[00:36:20] Speaker B: Right.
[00:36:21] Speaker A: So maybe there won't be any offensive linemen taken early in this draft.
[00:36:25] Speaker B: And so. Well, and what I was going to say is, reading between the lines there, what that tells me is that Andrew Barry, because he did address, Somewhat address the offensive line in free agency, it's not as.
It's not like he has to go and get somebody at the top of the draft right now. Like he. To me, he probably feels okay rolling with what he's got, getting some guys maybe at 24 or past 24 and then going from there. So I think it opens the door for best player available.
And a lot of people aren't going to like that. But, but I'm talking like a defensive player at the top of the draft.
[00:37:01] Speaker A: I don't even know if that's Andrew Berry's philosophy though, because he didn't say best player available. He said long term, what's best. What's best for the team long term.
[00:37:12] Speaker B: But what's best for the team long term is if you get. If you have a guy that's just a stud.
[00:37:16] Speaker A: And the interesting thing about that was the question was directed specifically to him about wide receivers being a position of need.
[00:37:24] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:37:24] Speaker A: To which he basically said, we don't really draft based on need. We draft for long term investment.
Which, like, understood. But if you never address the position of need, they just continue to be a position of need.
[00:37:39] Speaker B: Yeah, if.
Yeah, I mean, I have a hard,
[00:37:43] Speaker A: I have a hard time with that.
[00:37:46] Speaker B: I, I do. At some point you have to address the team.
[00:37:48] Speaker A: At some point you have to address the need. Yes.
[00:37:51] Speaker B: But. Yeah, so I just, I don't know what this means for the Brown. What I want to say is it opens the door, though.
That's okay.
It opens the door for us to go best available there and to get one of these defensive guys. So just talk about some of the prospects, the obvious guys on the top of the draft. You got offensive tackle Kaden Proctor. This is no particular order. So he's not the top guy. I'm just starting there from Alabama.
[00:38:17] Speaker A: No order whatsoever.
[00:38:18] Speaker B: No.
Can you imagine dejuan Jones and Kaden
[00:38:21] Speaker A: Proctor, big Big guys.
Proctor is a huge human.
[00:38:28] Speaker B: Dewand was asked, though, for us last year.
[00:38:31] Speaker A: Yes, he was ass.
Yes,
[00:38:37] Speaker B: he is a. It is.
[00:38:38] Speaker E: He.
[00:38:39] Speaker B: He is a big ass.
And I guess now if. If you did go Kane Proctor, you'd have two big asses. So those.
Eventually, if you have enough big asses, then you. You got an offensive line.
[00:38:50] Speaker D: You get enough.
[00:38:51] Speaker A: I mean, you got a rap video.
[00:38:52] Speaker B: You got a whole offensive line. Well, that too, yeah. I don't. I would not want to see a rap video with offensive linemen out there just. Just twerking.
I don't like that.
[00:39:02] Speaker A: I didn't know we were going there tonight.
[00:39:03] Speaker B: Neither did I. Offensive tackle Francis. I'm not even gonna try and pronounce his last name.
From Miami.
And this is the guy that. They just came out this past week and said he's got a herniated disc right now, so it doesn't hurt.
[00:39:18] Speaker A: Apparently asymptomatic. Symptomatic. Herniated disc.
[00:39:21] Speaker B: I don't even know what that means.
How can it be asymptomatic even if it is asymptomatic? You had a herniated disc.
[00:39:28] Speaker A: That's not good.
[00:39:29] Speaker B: No.
[00:39:29] Speaker A: You need your back for everything you do.
[00:39:31] Speaker F: Yep.
[00:39:32] Speaker B: Next up, Caleb Lomo Lomu from Utah.
Offensive tackle and. And we'll. We'll get further into some of these guys as they come up on the draft board here.
But you got the obvious for us, at least in my opinion, is Carnell Tate at the top of the draft board. Wide receiver, Ohio State.
[00:39:54] Speaker A: Here's the thing, right? If you draft Carnell Tate, no one's going to be mad.
[00:39:59] Speaker B: No one's mad.
[00:40:00] Speaker A: No one's mad.
[00:40:01] Speaker B: Arizona's biggest.
[00:40:02] Speaker A: No one's going to be mad for at least three or four years. Right. I mean, he would have to come out and really be bad.
[00:40:08] Speaker B: Like, never play.
[00:40:10] Speaker A: People to go for people to go. You spent a six round as a six pick on this guy.
[00:40:15] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:40:16] Speaker B: So to me, yeah. And because of all of this, to me, he's probably the safest bet at number six. It addresses a need, and he's one of the top players available.
[00:40:23] Speaker A: Can I upload a theory? Sure.
Andrew Barry might have a plan tonight.
He might have a lot of plans tonight.
Here's what I do know.
People around Andrew Barry are losing their jobs.
Pretty much everyone. It might not be a bad idea if the strategy turns to.
I'm not as worried about whatever my plan was. I need to make a goodwill pick for the fan base to keep people happy, to keep my Job.
[00:40:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:40:59] Speaker A: I mean, if for no other reason than that. I'm not saying Carnell dates bad. I'm just. I'm just saying that's a pick that pretty much universally will be Jeremiah Love
[00:41:10] Speaker B: to the Cardinals at 3.
[00:41:12] Speaker A: That's a big deal.
[00:41:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:41:14] Speaker A: There was a lot of talk. I mean, Andrew Barry talked extensively about Jeremiah Love during his presser last week.
[00:41:20] Speaker B: Can't have now
[00:41:23] Speaker A: either said or came very close to saying that he's a generational talent. Said you can use him in a lot of different ways.
[00:41:30] Speaker B: He said, I don't like to use that term, but this guy can do pretty much everything, so.
[00:41:33] Speaker C: Which.
[00:41:34] Speaker A: To which he called Travis Hunter a year ago, because he played both ways. He called him the Shohei Ohtani, essentially, of course, football.
[00:41:40] Speaker F: But.
[00:41:42] Speaker A: But I think there was a lot
[00:41:44] Speaker B: concerned about Andrew Barry's evaluation of talent.
[00:41:46] Speaker A: There was.
[00:41:47] Speaker B: There was a lot for that. I mean, I don't know.
[00:41:49] Speaker A: There was a lot of conversation in recent days, though, about at least they're being interested, so. Yeah, but that's a good. That's probably a good move for the Cardinals.
[00:41:59] Speaker F: Yeah, they.
[00:41:59] Speaker A: They have not. They've been in no man's land, really, since Larry Fitzgerald retired.
[00:42:05] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:42:07] Speaker B: Casey Concepcion, Texas A M wide receiver.
I'm speeding through these so we can get into some more things, talk about our answer.
[00:42:14] Speaker A: We're just gonna give you a list of names.
[00:42:16] Speaker B: Yeah. Ty Simpson, QB from Alabama, which I will stop here, though, because it's just. Just chomping out on that pizza.
[00:42:25] Speaker A: There's no plan.
[00:42:25] Speaker B: Yeah. We lost all our lights. Boom. Put that light right here.
Yeah.
This is live tv, guys, or whatever you call this podcasting.
[00:42:36] Speaker A: This is like, Bray Wyatt got a lantern.
[00:42:39] Speaker B: It's gonna go behind her helmet.
We don't have a lantern anymore. He dropped it.
Put it right here.
I don't know. Bone gave up.
[00:42:52] Speaker E: He's.
[00:42:52] Speaker B: He dropped it. He's embarrassed. He doesn't know what to do. How's that look?
[00:42:56] Speaker A: He's having a hard time with life.
[00:42:57] Speaker B: How we doing here?
[00:42:59] Speaker A: We look like we're at a campfire.
[00:43:01] Speaker B: That's what we're going for.
[00:43:02] Speaker A: We are campfiring at Nico's Bar. Nero.
[00:43:06] Speaker B: It's good tv.
It's good podcasting.
Ty Simpson, though. I wanted to stop here because Ty Simpson.
I don't. Talking about Andrew Barry's press conference. Unsolicited. He brought up Ty Simpson probably three times, like, out of nowhere. He was just like, well, Ty Simpson's a guy we got to know. We really like him. He's a good kid. And they're like, the question was about this over here and you just answered with Ty Simpson.
[00:43:30] Speaker A: So they draft another quarterback. You drafted two quarterbacks last year.
Can you draft another one? Not just another one. I think, I think everybody would probably expect or be okay with spending even a fourth, fifth round, six round pick.
[00:43:48] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:43:48] Speaker A: Can you draft another quarterback in the first round or even second round?
[00:43:55] Speaker B: Don't be surprised if they do. I mean, I'm just saying he, he brought it up unsolicited. He talked glowingly about how they love Ty Simpson. He's the son of a coach here. He studies harder than everybody. He waited his turn at Alabama behind two great quarterbacks and he did it the right way. And he's just extensively about Ty Simpson. Here's Mary Kay Cabot who we make jokes about all the time about what she's doing in the Brown facilities, which is relevant right now. But we won't go there.
[00:44:24] Speaker A: Oh, no.
[00:44:25] Speaker B: But anyways, new story of the week. Yeah. Mary Kay Cabot has been calling for them to take Ty Simpson at six for like a month now.
[00:44:34] Speaker A: She would love to see it.
[00:44:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:44:37] Speaker A: Here's, here's what I do know. I don't know a lot.
[00:44:41] Speaker B: No, you don't know anything because you're a brain lizard.
[00:44:43] Speaker A: I can't even cut this chicken tendy.
Here's, here's what I do know, Brownie James, is when I listen to Andrew Barry talk, he talks very intentionally about players, about draft picks, about cap money, all as resources, that they're finite resources.
Very methodically he talks about them being resources. Just kind of dehumanize the entire element of. It's just. These are real. Like you're playing catan.
[00:45:20] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:45:20] Speaker A: Andrew Barry's playing catan at the NFL.
[00:45:22] Speaker B: I get more stone, more.
[00:45:24] Speaker A: More iron or.
[00:45:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:45:27] Speaker A: And I just don't think you can make any sort of logical case that I can spend three picks on quarterbacks that I'm not sure about in a two year span. If that's how you're viewing, if that is your worldview.
[00:45:45] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I'm not disagreeing.
[00:45:47] Speaker A: I think you are because you've been telling me for a week's trade that they're gonna pick Tyson at 24.
[00:45:53] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I'm saying I don't disagree that you can't do that. But I also. What I think is Andrew Barry.
[00:45:59] Speaker A: I don't know what you think.
[00:46:00] Speaker B: Well, that's true. Andrew Barry is absolutely desperate at this point. I mean, everybody except for him got let Go.
And so if you go into this draft when your quarterbacks don't work out and you skipped over a quarterback that could have worked out, I mean, everybody's going to be pointing fingers again. Even though all of us are sitting here saying, don't take a quarterback, if you don't take him and he's good, we're all going to be pointing fingers.
[00:46:25] Speaker A: Is Ty Simpson this year's Jackson Darth?
[00:46:28] Speaker B: No, I'm not impressed with Ty Simpson, but I think they're taking him at 24.
[00:46:33] Speaker A: Are you impressed with Jackson Dart if
[00:46:35] Speaker B: he's there at 24? I'm not really that impressed with Jackson Dart so far.
[00:46:39] Speaker A: Well, if Ty Simpson doesn't impress you and Jackson Dart don't impress you, were they not the same?
[00:46:45] Speaker C: All right.
[00:46:46] Speaker A: I guess you said that with disdain, like there was a difference. And then you said that they're basically both the same.
[00:46:52] Speaker B: I guess I was just talking off the cuff, like, overall, I don't really think that. But he was good for a rookie. Jackson Dart was good for a rookie. Like, that's where I'm at.
[00:47:00] Speaker A: I guess I'm just saying, like, people. There was a lot of conversation, like, how. How could we pass on Jackson Dart? Like, a lot of people were high on Jackson dirt last year.
[00:47:09] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:47:09] Speaker A: He was another guy that the Browns missed.
[00:47:12] Speaker B: That's fair. I think that. I think that.
[00:47:13] Speaker A: Oh, Titans pick is in the board.
[00:47:18] Speaker B: We are definitely going defense with number six. You know what else this opens up, though? So if Carnell Tate is gone and
[00:47:25] Speaker A: Tyson's not your guy, has Arbel Reese been drafted?
[00:47:28] Speaker B: No, I'm just saying, like, we talk about ideal draft scenarios. Those are gone because I was going to say Tate and then a lineman later.
[00:47:36] Speaker A: You've got at least two more great Buckeyes on the board in the first round.
[00:47:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:47:43] Speaker A: And we are in the next two picks.
[00:47:45] Speaker B: Yeah, you've got three.
Larval Reese, Sonny Styles and Caleb Downs are all there.
[00:47:52] Speaker A: Well, true.
[00:47:53] Speaker B: And just seriously, I know people will hate on that. They don't want to see defense in the first round. They don't want to see defense at the top of the draft. But we're talking best player available. We're talking what makes this team better.
And I mean, think about an arvl. We'll start with the linebackers. Either Arvell Reese or Sonny Styles out there with Carson Schwessinger just tearing it up on the defense.
[00:48:19] Speaker A: It gives me whatever the opposite of nightmares is.
[00:48:23] Speaker B: Yeah, like. Like we give that to everybody else, but yeah. Yeah.
Are you having, like, a wet dream?
[00:48:34] Speaker A: Is that what's happening?
Is that the opposite of a nightmare? Has to be as bone, but what's
[00:48:40] Speaker B: the opposite of a nightmare?
A good dream.
[00:48:44] Speaker A: A good dream.
[00:48:45] Speaker B: I guess we used a different adjective,
[00:48:46] Speaker A: but it's way less wet.
[00:48:49] Speaker B: Yeah. Way less wet. But no, I. I just think. I, I think if you pair either of the Ohio State linebackers with Carson Schwezinger and that defense is going to be nasty. And then you talk about Caleb Downs, and again, you know, Angel Berry doesn't like to say generational talent, but this dude is, by all accounts, he's going to be the next Ed Reed.
And you. Or, Or, I mean, you use any of the great Palomalu, like any of these guys, you put that guy at the, at the back end of our defense with Carson Swessinger running around and Miles Garrett on the front end. You got me.
[00:49:21] Speaker A: You have three dynamic playmakers at every level.
[00:49:24] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. I mean, things get nasty, you thought.
[00:49:27] Speaker A: I guess I said that wrong. You have one dynamic playmaker at all three levels of the defense.
[00:49:31] Speaker B: You have three at every level.
[00:49:32] Speaker A: That would be nine difference makers on your defense.
[00:49:36] Speaker B: But yeah, you, You. You think that the defense was good this past year. I mean, imagine what adding one of those guys could do to it.
[00:49:44] Speaker A: I can't imagine it because it's not going to happen.
[00:49:48] Speaker B: It's not going to happen.
But yeah, I mean, I don't know. This whole Carnell Tate thing has me
[00:49:54] Speaker A: shook because something's blowing up.
[00:49:57] Speaker B: What's blowing up?
[00:50:02] Speaker A: I don't know what's happening.
You'll have to come here.
[00:50:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Bone. You. We can't hear you. We have headphones on.
I was hiding it behind the helmet.
[00:50:14] Speaker A: Bone is making our campfire brighter.
[00:50:16] Speaker B: Yeah, this is. This is good.
[00:50:21] Speaker A: I'm shocked right now.
[00:50:22] Speaker B: I. I know Carnell Tate has me kind of shook cuz they were talking about him falling out of the top 10. Like we could trade back to 12.
[00:50:27] Speaker A: They were. They were saying like 10. 12 would be reasonable.
[00:50:30] Speaker B: You think they'll take Jordan Tyson?
[00:50:33] Speaker A: That almost. That almost makes me feel really bad because now you. You didn't get Carnell.
The Titans obviously valued him at five.
[00:50:43] Speaker F: Yeah.
Yeah.
[00:50:46] Speaker B: Kenny, now that Carnell Tate is gone, what's your ideal draft scenario from here on out?
[00:50:52] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. Look, my idea. I mean, we're up against it now, right? So I guess we're not doing a whole lot of analysis here or talking.
My ideal draft scenario is you take one of the Buckeyes like, you don't.
[00:51:03] Speaker B: You don't have.
[00:51:04] Speaker A: You don't have to overthink this.
[00:51:06] Speaker B: You know what the craziest thing is? We've talked about this. If you did nothing but draft Buckeyes in this draft, if you knew nothing
[00:51:12] Speaker A: about football and you just drafted Ohio State Buckeyes because you were. You're in Ohio and you've seen them play, a lot of you couldn't possibly screw this draft up, at least this first round.
[00:51:22] Speaker B: No, no, no.
[00:51:25] Speaker A: Like, that's it. The show's over.
Exclamation point.
That's. That's my idea. I mean, literally, any one of those three guys provides such a lift. And I know it's not. It's not the, like, the sexy pick this year to go defense, but tell me which one of those guys makes you worse?
They don't.
[00:51:46] Speaker B: No, they don't.
[00:51:47] Speaker A: They make you way better, and they make you a scary defensive unit, which you already are. A really good defensive football team.
To be fair. We don't really know what Mike Rittenberg's.
[00:51:58] Speaker F: Rittenberg.
[00:51:59] Speaker A: What his defense is going to look like, but if you have those guys
[00:52:05] Speaker D: on it, it's going to be hard
[00:52:06] Speaker A: to screw that up, too.
[00:52:09] Speaker B: I'm going to get a guest on Kenny. I'm gonna get our guest on here. So you keep talking. Oh, give me just like five, two
[00:52:14] Speaker A: minutes around a jams. Needs two minutes.
So anyway, the Giants pick is in.
I guess we're not real sure where they're gonna go with their pick.
Do they. Do they make a reach here at 5, or do they go Buckeye and pick a. Make a safe pick?
Ryan James is eating.
[00:52:34] Speaker B: If they don't go Buckeye, I mean, somebody has to get fired.
[00:52:38] Speaker C: Right?
[00:52:40] Speaker A: Is that a fireball offense?
What is. What is your ideal draft scenario at this point?
[00:52:50] Speaker B: Mine right now. I mean, you take.
[00:52:52] Speaker A: You have a favorite Buckeye out of
[00:52:53] Speaker B: the three Arvo Reese. I would love to see him.
[00:52:56] Speaker A: I think that's a hard miss if you. If you take our. Like, it's hard to miss. Taking arvo, right.
There was a lot of people that had him going two or three.
[00:53:04] Speaker B: Right. That's what I'm saying. So to me now, with the way things have shaken up with all. Everything at the top of the draft, I mean, that's what I do is
[00:53:11] Speaker A: I go shake and not stirred.
[00:53:12] Speaker B: Yeah. I go Arvell Reese, and then I would probably go receiver.
We didn't address receiver, like, at all. In free agency. We at least got some linemen.
[00:53:20] Speaker A: We got Jerry Judy, Great, Great.
What did I say to you as we were driving over here? Because we were driving two Nicos.
I said the last time they really invested heavy draft capital in a wide receiver is Braylon Edwards.
[00:53:38] Speaker B: Braylon Edwards.
[00:53:39] Speaker A: I mean, I guess you drafted Corey Coleman, but that didn't count.
Braylon Edwards.
[00:53:45] Speaker B: I forgot. When they drafted Gary Coleman, who drafts a 5, 8 receiver and the 5, 7 receiver or whatever he was in
[00:53:53] Speaker A: the first round, I don't know.
But what I'm saying is the last time they drafted a receiver high, he ended up look like him or hate him. He wasn't. He isn't an all Pro or Hall of Famer. He's maybe one of the most prolific receivers the Browns have ever had, which is very sad, but it's the truth. In one or two decent years, which makes him one of the best since 99.
[00:54:14] Speaker B: It's bad that, like, the best two receivers the Browns ever had are Braylon Edwards and Josh Gordon.
That's what we got.
[00:54:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:54:23] Speaker B: Now, to be fair, they have changed the rules. Josh Gordon could have been superstar, but smoked a lot of weed so he
[00:54:30] Speaker A: could not stay off the dope.
[00:54:32] Speaker F: No.
[00:54:33] Speaker A: Do we have a special guest joining us or.
[00:54:35] Speaker B: Yeah, he's on his way.
[00:54:36] Speaker A: He's on his way.
[00:54:37] Speaker B: What is in for the Giants?
[00:54:38] Speaker A: Yes, the pick.
We've said this.
Look, I'll say this. I don't like Pittsburgh, but everything looks nice tonight for the draft.
[00:54:47] Speaker D: Looks like they.
[00:54:48] Speaker A: They picked up the trash, don't they?
[00:54:50] Speaker B: Actually have. I was there a few weeks ago, and they said they've spent an inordinate amount of money picking up tricks, picking up trash to make it look like it wasn't a trash hole in Pittsburgh. So all you. You know, we don't give a damn for the whole state of Pittsburgh.
[00:55:02] Speaker A: And the Giants pick is in.
[00:55:04] Speaker B: It got quiet.
[00:55:05] Speaker A: The whole bar is, like, on pins and needles.
[00:55:08] Speaker B: We're close now.
[00:55:09] Speaker A: It's gotta be sunny. No, it's. Who is it make the pick already?
Caleb Downs? It is.
[00:55:24] Speaker B: You think.
Sorry, we're not saying anything right now, but they're taking a long time. Not us.
[00:55:30] Speaker A: They drafted the Taps, a defensive lineman last year, didn't they?
[00:55:34] Speaker B: I believe so.
[00:55:35] Speaker A: I don't think they're gonna go edge again,
[00:55:39] Speaker B: y' all. Like they would.
[00:55:41] Speaker A: Was. I can't even think of that guy's name. I know everybody was making fun of him because he was kind of a crybaby later in the year, but he was somebody. The Browns were.
[00:55:47] Speaker B: Penn State guy.
[00:55:48] Speaker A: Yeah. I can't think of his name.
I'm really bad podcaster this moment.
Who do we got?
[00:55:58] Speaker B: Well, bones are our guy that gives us our facts, and he's sitting over there.
[00:56:06] Speaker A: They did it.
[00:56:08] Speaker B: Sonny Styles or Caleb Downs? Who you want?
[00:56:10] Speaker A: You can't not pick Orville Reese there, right?
Sunny Styles or Caleb Downs?
Look, it might be the DB in me talking, and I'm a long way away from being a db, But I was at one point. You were one.
[00:56:26] Speaker B: At one point, you were a db.
[00:56:27] Speaker A: I gotta go. Downs, you guys. Going down, down, down.
[00:56:33] Speaker B: It's going down.
Hey, special guest is here.
[00:56:37] Speaker A: He is.
Oh, my goodness.
John Hughes is on the show.
[00:56:46] Speaker F: What's going on, guys? How we doing?
[00:56:48] Speaker B: Good. How are you? We apologize. You can't see us. It's like we're in a campfire, but
[00:56:52] Speaker F: it's a little dark.
[00:56:54] Speaker A: Live at Nico's.
[00:56:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:56:55] Speaker F: Oh, nice. Nice, man.
[00:56:57] Speaker A: John, you look good. I miss you, my friend.
[00:57:00] Speaker F: Appreciate it. I miss you guys, man. How's everything been?
[00:57:02] Speaker B: We've been good. We've been good.
Is that a new hairstyle courtesy of King Culture?
[00:57:08] Speaker F: Yeah, it's. It's. It's a new hairstyle, man. I. I actually had it the first time I saw you guys on the. On the cruise.
[00:57:16] Speaker A: It looks spectacular.
[00:57:17] Speaker B: It does. It looks phenomenal.
[00:57:19] Speaker F: A little bit, man. Yeah.
[00:57:20] Speaker B: Oh, we traded, and we knew that was gonna happen. We traded with Kansas City. So we're down to. What does that take us to? 10, 11. 10 or 11, John, you know, if the Kansas City was picking 10 or 11,
[00:57:35] Speaker F: I'm not sure.
[00:57:36] Speaker A: John's frozen.
[00:57:38] Speaker F: Frozen.
[00:57:40] Speaker A: You're back. You're good.
[00:57:41] Speaker F: Cool, Cool.
[00:57:41] Speaker B: It's live. Just roll with it.
[00:57:43] Speaker F: Yep.
[00:57:45] Speaker A: 9, 74 and 148. 974 and 148.
[00:57:51] Speaker B: All right, so there's. There's our first reaction. John, how do you feel about the Browns trading down?
[00:57:59] Speaker F: I mean, it just adds more picks to the table, man. I think that just helps us out in the long run, man. If we can have a good. A solid draft like we did last year, man, and just build on what we're. We're doing, man. I think we're gonna be good.
[00:58:13] Speaker B: Yeah. I just. I'm so. I'm so sick of the Browns trading down. Like, it happens every year. The funny thing is, in his press conference, Andrew Barry was like. He made the comment.
[00:58:24] Speaker A: He taught at him, like, three times.
[00:58:26] Speaker B: Yep. And he made the comment. He was like, I like how everybody is. Everybody last year assumed we were going to stay at 2, and this year Everybody assumes we're going to trade down, and then he went and traded down.
[00:58:36] Speaker A: Do you think Carnell Tate was their guy at 6 and because he's off the board, they made the trade?
[00:58:43] Speaker F: I, I don't know, man. I mean, I think that's, that's obviously what everybody in the, in the, the mock drafts were saying, right?
To know if that was Cleveland's move. I think it is definitely receiver, in my opinion. Just off the moves that we did in the off season so far with O line, I think those are our two biggest spots between O line and in the receiver room. So I think that's, that's the next one. So either O line or receiver.
[00:59:09] Speaker B: Yeah, I think, I think that's what ends up happening. I think we have to go O line next.
[00:59:13] Speaker F: Right?
[00:59:13] Speaker B: So, yeah, I mean, right now, is
[00:59:16] Speaker A: there no, is there no lineman that's top 10? A nine.
Is one of these guys at top 10?
[00:59:22] Speaker B: I, I don't know. I mean, who's your favorite offensive lineman in the draft, John?
[00:59:29] Speaker F: It was the guy that they had talked about.
What's his name?
The guy from Miami.
[00:59:41] Speaker B: You know, the herniated disc thing doesn't, doesn't concern you?
[00:59:45] Speaker F: I mean, I, I've seen guys, you know, work, I have those kind of injuries and work through them, but it is, it is a concern, but I mean, he's the best guy on the board at offensive tackle. My.
[00:59:58] Speaker A: John, have you ever herniated anything?
[01:00:02] Speaker F: I'm sure I have at some point, but no, I'm just kidding.
[01:00:06] Speaker B: So, I mean, you said that it is a concern, but you've seen, you know, people kind of battle through you, seen injuries in your timeline and everything.
[01:00:14] Speaker F: So guys that I played with, you know, I know for a fact had had some issues going on back wise and I mean, it's something that you, you figure out, you know, unfortunately, you know what I mean? It's, yeah, you work through.
[01:00:25] Speaker B: So do you.
I guess. I mean, what I'm trying to get at is, is, is, does this linger his entire career? Do you think, do you think it's something that's gonna pop up every now and then and then cause him to miss time?
[01:00:44] Speaker F: I think it's always a possibility, but I don't, I, I, I'm not, I'm not 100% sure. I don't know. But it could, you can't, I guess
[01:00:53] Speaker B: you can't really draft on possibilities, right? Well, I guess that's the whole point.
[01:00:56] Speaker F: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, everybody's a possibility, but when you throw that. In. I mean, you know, at. At the. At that pick, I think we go. Best offensive lineman on the board, right?
[01:01:08] Speaker B: Which.
[01:01:08] Speaker F: Whichever the Browns, you know, have on the board. Yep. Yeah.
[01:01:12] Speaker B: Kenny, you got a favorite offensive lineman here because.
Or you think we're still going receiver? I mean, you might still be able to get one of these defensive guys we're just talking about, but.
[01:01:20] Speaker A: Oh, man,
[01:01:24] Speaker B: Kansas City really wanted a cornerback.
[01:01:29] Speaker A: Yep. Look, I'm not saying. I mean, he's a good player.
[01:01:32] Speaker B: I.
But again, feels reachy again. I mean, I know John, you know where we live, you know what's going on. You live even closer to it than we do. There's a couple Buckeyes that are still out there on the board right now.
[01:01:45] Speaker A: I mean, maybe they moved nine thinking they could still get one of those.
[01:01:49] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:01:49] Speaker E: Do you.
[01:01:49] Speaker B: Do you think that's part of the strategy here?
[01:01:52] Speaker F: It possibly could be, man. I mean, there's definitely a couple Buckeyes left on the board.
Okay.
[01:01:59] Speaker B: Between Caleb Downs and Sonny Styles, who do you like?
[01:02:03] Speaker F: Oh, I like Sunny Styles, man. Just his overall size and.
[01:02:07] Speaker E: And.
[01:02:07] Speaker F: And athletic ability together. It reminds me of a Miles, but kind of a more lean, like. Like we're talking about that outside linebacker kind of deal. Right.
[01:02:14] Speaker B: I think he's almost a hybrid safety.
[01:02:17] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:02:19] Speaker F: At the combine, that for sure.
[01:02:21] Speaker B: And then you put you partner him with Carson Schinger, and it's just tearing defenses up all over the place, so. Tearing offense, tearing defense. Tearing offense, whatever.
But, yeah, I mean, I'm so off my game right now because ever since Carnell Tate, I just don't even know what to say.
[01:02:39] Speaker F: It did throw a wrench and everything, man.
[01:02:41] Speaker A: Right?
[01:02:41] Speaker B: It did. It did.
[01:02:42] Speaker A: John, do we over sensationalize the draft? I mean, does. I mean, it's exciting because it's the first football and, you know, since the super bowl, it's the first kind of, like, TV event. But, like, you played, you were drafted. Like, you've been through this process. Does it matter? Does it matter at all? Like, once you get into that locker room, like, everybody's got an NFL contract, you're all there trying to win. Does any of this matter?
[01:03:05] Speaker F: Well, so for the drafted guys, I feel like there's kind of levels to it. You know what I mean? But as far as, you know, the playing field, like, everybody's kind of starting from scratch. Right. But kind of like the overall kind of.
What are you talking about?
Just what the potential is. Like, they're looking at those. Those first picks a little bit different, but I think overall, as, as, you know, as fans watching, I think I look at it a lot different now, especially after I got drafted, but even different after I got done playing. And I, you know, watched the draft and kind of watched the process leading up to the draft.
It's, it's analysts and, you know, fans jobs to create the scenarios. Right. But at the end of the day, out of all the stuff that we talk about, the, the, the different places, you know, the different teams have their own kind of mindset of what they're going to do. Right. So everything we're talking about now is speculation. Right. So anything can happen. So who knows that this wasn't part of the plan in the beginning?
[01:04:04] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I just, to me, it's like, you know, I think we all get excited about it as fans.
[01:04:12] Speaker F: Oh, yeah.
[01:04:13] Speaker A: But I'm just like. And I know that there's, there's money involved. Right. I mean, the first rounders have better contracts and things, as in the kind of as you go down, but.
[01:04:21] Speaker F: Yep.
[01:04:23] Speaker A: But it's like. Well, I feel like once you're, you're playing ball and you're just with your team.
[01:04:28] Speaker F: Oh, yeah.
It's just, it's kind of like how you gel to the team. So, you know, guys gel different to the team. Right. And it might be different for the higher picks compared to the lower picks.
[01:04:40] Speaker A: Right.
[01:04:40] Speaker F: It's just all about kind of who you are at that point. Right. So the picks pretty much what you're saying, right? The picks go out the window once you get on the field.
Yeah.
[01:04:49] Speaker A: And we find good players all over the draft, that's for sure.
[01:04:52] Speaker F: Yeah, most definitely.
[01:04:54] Speaker B: So again, John, you've been through this. Obviously you were a third round pick, but you've been through this entire process. Can you kind of walk us through that? Can you tell us, like, what it's like to be a draft prospect? Like, you know, everything I'm talking, just start to finish last college football game, going to all your offseason stuff, the combine, everything else leading up to this. Can you tell us what it's like to be that draft prospect and how you feel kind of waiting to hear your name called?
[01:05:21] Speaker F: Yeah. Every guy has their own kind of experience, Right. Going through the draft process because, you know, we all had those predictions of where you're supposed to go from, like the end of your college season. But, you know, before the combine, before everything else.
[01:05:35] Speaker D: Right.
[01:05:35] Speaker F: So off of that, I didn't know if I was going to get a combine invite. So for me to get a combine Invite, man. It was like, you know, the best thing in the world for me. So the way I approached my training, you know, was, was, you know, out of this, out of the roof, man. Like I, I trained twice a day and leading up to the combine, I actually tore my hamstring maybe like two weeks before the combine and I was running the 40 and like the last, maybe like three yards, I popped my hammy. So I tried to look at it half, you know, glass half full and still went to the combine. But I did everything I could do outside of the workouts and I actually get myself an advantage, you know, in the interviews because when you go to the combine, this, it's a whole three day process and you barely sleep, but you're expected to perform at your absolute best, right?
[01:06:24] Speaker A: On all aspects.
[01:06:25] Speaker F: Between the testing you do, physical, your, your actual like written test that you do, waking up and being like on your level or being on your game for interviews with GMs and head coaches, right?
So that process is, you know what it is, three days in Indy, right?
And then after that, man, it's just kind of playing the waiting game, you know, continuing to work out the same. And then at that point you start going on different depending on the guy you are, who you are, depending on where you're supposed to get drafted. But for the most part, you know, the top mid round guys, for the most part, they get flown out to different places to different teams and you'll do like kind of interviews with different teams that are potentially going to take you, right? So for me, I went to Cleveland, I went to Pittsburgh, and my last stop was New Orleans.
And they were all cool visits, man. I had a great time. It's really nice like actually being able to like go in and meet the players. You know, again, coming from college, it's a little bit different, right? Like you're gonna see all these players for the first time. So it's pretty cool.
And for me, I was a big Will Smith, depending on how I'll say I was a big Will Smith fan. And I got to sit in a meeting with him and like study film with him. It's pretty cool.
And so after that, man, you're kind of just playing the waiting game still draft day, man. So for me, I was to go like late sixth round, first round to like strange and pick. And the day of the draft I got a call from the Bear saying that they're, that they're looking at me in the third round.
Then New Orleans, that said the same thing. They were like, if you're available with our first pick, we want to take you 89 in the third round. And this was during the whole bounty thing, so.
First two round picks, but their first pick was in the third round.
So I ended up going to Cleveland. 87.
And.
Yeah, that's my draft story.
[01:08:32] Speaker A: It's.
[01:08:32] Speaker B: Yeah, it's just. It's crazy because, you know, hearing it from you, it's like, it makes it more human. We see these guys, it's almost like they're superheroes to everybody. Oh, yeah. They're these all star college players that come out and they get drafted. It's. It's like the dreams come true. And the funny thing is a lot of the. A lot of the guys in the draft don't pan out, but like, that's like the, you know, that's the end of the story for a lot of people.
And it's. It's just interesting to hear how you came up through it. You had a human element to it, and we got to see you all the way through your career because you were here in Cleveland, and then obviously now we've become friends with the afterwards. So it's just. It's just neat to see the journey kind of start to finish and hear from somebody that's been through it.
[01:09:12] Speaker A: And while John was on his journey, Sonny Stiles was picked.
[01:09:15] Speaker B: Yep.
[01:09:16] Speaker A: By the Washington Commanders.
[01:09:18] Speaker F: I was. I was into it, man. I didn't see it. Dang.
[01:09:22] Speaker A: Okay, another Buckeye off the board.
[01:09:26] Speaker B: Well, so basically there's one Buckeye left on the top of the draft board, and then we're into the. The tackles, like you were saying. And then Jordan Tyson. That's pretty much who we got to choose from.
[01:09:36] Speaker A: Pretty impressive. Just from the Ohio State program this year, I mean.
[01:09:40] Speaker F: Oh, yeah.
[01:09:41] Speaker A: If you have four. Four players go in the top 10
[01:09:44] Speaker F: picks, you're doing something right.
[01:09:47] Speaker B: That's not bad.
They also. They also have a DB that's supposed to go right around like 25.
[01:09:53] Speaker A: I think they've got a lot of guys that are gonna get this weekend.
[01:09:56] Speaker B: Oh, hell, they. I mean, 10 bit.
[01:09:58] Speaker A: I mean, that's. That's 40% of the.
[01:10:01] Speaker B: You got Lorenzo Styles, Sonny Styles, brother, that ran a 4, 240.
[01:10:05] Speaker A: So yeah, that guy's real fast.
That was some good genes, right, John, speaking of just over sensationalizing the draft, are a lot of the measurables that come out from the combine and just redraft. Is that all. Is that overrated? I mean, how much is your difference from like game speed to like Just guys that are just fast. Like.
[01:10:31] Speaker F: Yeah, I. I think it. It matters to a certain extent, but I think you. You got to take them, take the measurables, like, with a grain of salt, right?
Because some guys have different game speed and like, the way they play and the way they move on the field doesn't really translate or compare how they're kind of their measurables to how we measure people. Look, you know, I've seen guys that, you know, measured small hands, right? But he was, he had the best, some of the best pass rushes you've seen.
So, I mean, it's. It's like at the end of the day, I mean, I. You can, you can look at the measures, like, you know, just to kind of base yourself, but yeah, you got to watch how guys play and really understand, like, what you're looking at.
[01:11:12] Speaker A: Yeah, I just think we get so caught up sometimes in these numbers. It's like if 41 inch vertical, 43 inch vertical. Dude, if you can jump 40 inches, like, it didn't like 40, the difference between 41, 42, 43, you're just an impressive human
[01:11:29] Speaker F: at the same time, right? It's like, how does that 40 inch vertical translate on the field? Right? Yeah. Are you actually using your, your different, you know, measurables, you know, to your advantage out there?
[01:11:41] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, and I think, like, especially when you think about wide receivers, right, it's like, okay, you can jump high.
[01:11:46] Speaker B: The most recent example.
[01:11:47] Speaker A: And can you go up and get the ball, like, because that also matters.
[01:11:51] Speaker B: An example of specifically what you were talking about with speed translating is Anthony Schwartz. He's the worst receiver I've ever seen in my life.
[01:11:58] Speaker A: Well, I think every year we see these John's like, come on, man.
[01:12:04] Speaker B: Every year we, yeah, our, our views are not the views of John Hughes.
[01:12:08] Speaker A: Every year we get. We see these guys who run a 42 and a 4 3, and we all get just taken aback by their speed.
[01:12:14] Speaker B: That's impressive.
[01:12:15] Speaker A: But how many of those four two guys end up being NFL greats? All time greats. Like, I think it's just some of the big names in the last couple of years, like, you're like John Ross, like, look, like. I'm not saying not making it to the NFL and playing for a couple years isn't an accomplishment. It is. It's a huge accomplishment. You're in the top 0.0001% of athletes in the world that you're craft, like, really good. It's incredible. But like, he's also not a Hall of Famer. So that, what is, what did that four, two, five or whatever he ran? Like what did that do for you at the end of the day? Because there was a lot of guys that were drafted in that same draft that probably ran 4, 4, 4, 5, 4 five and a half that got drafted later that went on to be very productive in the NFL and play for eight, 10 years.
[01:12:59] Speaker F: Right. So, and I was gonna ask Kenny, so like what's, what's your, your, your marker for a first round being successful? Like what does success look like for a first round pick?
[01:13:11] Speaker B: So subjective.
[01:13:14] Speaker F: I mean as far as like amount of years played or like what, what is that? What does that look like success wise? Like do you have.
[01:13:20] Speaker A: Varies by.
I think it varies by position a little bit. Because you know, if you're taking a quarterback, I think, you know, especially like a top ten quarter, have you taken a top five?
Like you're expecting that guy to be the franchise. So you're expecting longevity. You're expecting, you're expecting it all. Distant production.
[01:13:40] Speaker F: Right.
[01:13:40] Speaker A: And, and leadership. He's also kind of the CEO of your team. Like there's a lot of expectations on that guy.
Whereas, you know, if Carnell Tate was drafted in the first round, if he goes out and has five or six thousand yard seasons, like pick worth it, right. He could retire after five or six years probably. To win a thousand years and you go, this guy was incredibly productive. Even though he didn't play that long. Yeah, he was, you know, awesome. Like I don't know that you have to be. I think sometimes our expectations are way too high, Especially the first runners.
[01:14:16] Speaker F: I agree.
[01:14:16] Speaker A: We're expecting all of them to be a savior of a franchise. And making it to the NFL is hard. Playing in the NFL is hard. Playing at the NFL at a high level through injuries, through like all. And I'm not telling you anything you don't know you did it. But like all those things are hard.
[01:14:31] Speaker B: I like how you're telling the NFL player. You're like, do you know how hard it is to make it to the NFL?
[01:14:36] Speaker A: Talent also is like a whole nother level. I don't know that it's a reasonable expectation to have.
[01:14:43] Speaker B: No, especially when so many of these
[01:14:44] Speaker A: guys are coming out of your May 122 years old. It's like, yeah, so much.
[01:14:48] Speaker B: It's completely unreasonable. In addition to that, I think that the average fan just truly does not understand how unreasonable the expectations are in like hit rate on first round picks. Like the hit rate on a first round Pick is like less than 30%. Like they don't. Not a lot of guys work out. Like, they just don't.
[01:15:06] Speaker F: Yeah.
[01:15:07] Speaker B: And people don't understand that. They, they think that if you have a first round pick, you need to, you need to nail the first round pick every time.
[01:15:14] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:15:14] Speaker F: I mean, and that's just like you said, it's impossible to get it right every time. Right. Some. Some teams, some, you know, GMs or whatever have, have better percentages than others, you know, but, but it is, it is, it is a change.
[01:15:28] Speaker B: Barry had one good draft.
[01:15:31] Speaker F: Yeah. You about to have another one?
[01:15:33] Speaker B: I hope so. I hope so.
[01:15:36] Speaker A: I love the optimist.
[01:15:38] Speaker B: That's why we bring John Hughes out.
Jordan Tyson just went to the Saints at number eight. So the, the Browns are officially on the clock again.
[01:15:45] Speaker F: Yep.
[01:15:47] Speaker B: And you're basically at this point now both the top receivers are gone. So you're sitting it. You're either taking Caleb downs or you're taking one of the offensive line.
[01:15:56] Speaker F: Yeah, I agree.
[01:15:57] Speaker B: Who would you take? John?
[01:16:00] Speaker F: Oh, man, I think.
I, I think I'm gonna go with the corner from Ohio State downs.
Just because, I mean you can't, you can't teach speed, man. And, and the way he, he plays on the field, man, he's solid. I.
And I feel like with an O line, I mean, you could still go.
Is it Maluga?
Yeah, from Miami. He hasn't been picked up yet. So I mean, I think it's between those two guys, in my opinion.
[01:16:35] Speaker B: I just feel like at this point you can't pass up on. You can't pass up downs because you up twice.
Right. Like you can't. This is a guy that was legitimately when, when draft process all started, you know, after the college football season ended on a lot of people's boards, he was the number one guy.
He was the guy.
And he's fallen a little bit since then just because some of the other guys stock has risen. And I know everybody knew Fernando Mendoza was going first. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying as just a pure draft prospect, he was number one.
And I know I've seen him anywhere between one and like five. So you're getting a top five player at nine right now. That's like, you know, Andrew Barry preaches value.
He talks about it all the time. You mentioned it. He talk. He completely takes the human element out of it. And he says he talks about everything like it's an asset.
[01:17:27] Speaker A: Pick is in.
[01:17:28] Speaker B: Yeah, the pick is in for the Browns but he talks about everything like it's an asset. And to me, if you're trying to. What was his term that he used? Maximize.
[01:17:37] Speaker E: Long.
[01:17:37] Speaker A: Long term.
[01:17:39] Speaker B: He used a specific. It's like maximize value, but he used a specific term. If you're trying to do that here, the best way to do that long term is by going Caleb Downs. I don't know how you pass him on.
[01:17:50] Speaker F: Yeah, yeah.
I like the pick, man. I think it'd be a solid pick.
[01:17:55] Speaker B: I mean can you imagine a Troy Palomalu or a Ed Reed or one of those types of guys at the back end of our secondary right now?
[01:18:03] Speaker F: Yeah.
[01:18:04] Speaker A: I mean I will say this, like as the draft got closer and closer, the more I thought about it and as more as much as I wanted in one of the top light wide receivers, they're gone.
[01:18:13] Speaker B: They're gone. You don't even have to worry about it.
[01:18:14] Speaker A: As much as I know we need offensive line.
I've been thinking Eminem would had told you probably a week ago. I was like, what if they did get like a doubts like that would be incredible like that. And it's not. No one is thinking about the defense right now because the defense is already so good. But if you add another dynamic playmaker like you're that much better.
[01:18:35] Speaker F: Yeah, yeah.
[01:18:38] Speaker B: I just. We've, we've talked about this at length, Kenny, not on air, but I guess we'll talk about it right now because you know, we're way behind. But offensive linemen, none of these guys to me are worth A top 10 pick.
[01:18:49] Speaker A: I just think like to me, offensive lineman, if you are going to pick a guy in the top 10 at offensive line, that guy has to be a 1012 restart. When, when John asked about like how would I define a successful first round pick? Yeah, because you need longevity out of that pick. Right? You're, you're spending, you're telling me Jedrick Wills 1 Nick Jeff Wills probably was not. Not that. So
[01:19:15] Speaker B: I like how John just laughs every time I call someone out. He's just like, I'm not saying nothing
[01:19:19] Speaker A: but I just think the, the bar is actually almost for those guys because you know, you can watch wide receivers make freak plays, make one handed catches, you can watch running backs, you can make watch defensive guys get sacks.
[01:19:30] Speaker B: Offensive lineman's got to be offensive linemen.
[01:19:32] Speaker A: You don't, people don't pay attention to offensive lineman unless you're like an offensive line guy. Clear offensive line, you don't pay attention to them.
[01:19:40] Speaker B: It's especially skewed here because we had Joe Thomas and we had Joel Batonia,
[01:19:44] Speaker A: and most people looking at kickstarting technique, like, they don't.
[01:19:48] Speaker C: They don't.
[01:19:48] Speaker A: They aren't. They aren't thinking about those things. So I don't know if most people can even analyze offensive line. The one thing that I know that I need that guy to do is be available every week for a long time.
[01:19:59] Speaker F: For offensive line, you're almost looking for just that. That grit, like, the guy that just, like, plays through it all. You know what I mean? Like. Like Joe, man. Like, he probably like his career, man. Like, how many snaps was it again that he played like that? That's the kind of guy you needed. O line, the guy that, you know, plays through it all.
What are we talking about?
[01:20:20] Speaker B: To hear it.
[01:20:20] Speaker F: Yep.
[01:20:21] Speaker A: See what the bar does. Quiet down, Win tackle.
Mixed. Mixed reaction at best here in the bar.
[01:20:39] Speaker B: Oh, no, no, not mixed. We're hearing the booze come out
[01:20:45] Speaker F: there, guys.
[01:20:46] Speaker B: It's not too mixed.
[01:20:47] Speaker D: It's.
[01:20:48] Speaker A: It's. Look, it's a safe pick. It is a safe pick.
[01:20:51] Speaker B: We're gonna bring bone in here.
[01:20:54] Speaker C: Yeah, I can talk for a little bit.
[01:20:56] Speaker F: What up, Bone?
[01:20:59] Speaker A: I want to say hi to John.
[01:21:00] Speaker B: He said what? He said, what up, Bone? He said, what up, bone?
[01:21:03] Speaker C: Hey, John. How's it going, man?
[01:21:05] Speaker F: Good, man. How we doing?
[01:21:07] Speaker C: Not too bad.
[01:21:09] Speaker F: Okay.
[01:21:09] Speaker B: How do you feel about the pick, Bone?
[01:21:13] Speaker C: I. I thought this was gonna happen.
Really? I wanted. I wanted Tate or I wanted Jordan, the other receiver out of Arizona State.
[01:21:24] Speaker F: Yeah.
[01:21:25] Speaker C: But that didn't happen.
I figured we were getting the. Whatever. Whatever offensive lineman they wanted, they picked the best that they thought was the best, so.
[01:21:33] Speaker B: I just can't believe they left Caleb Downs on the board twice.
[01:21:36] Speaker A: Yeah, that would have been exciting to.
[01:21:38] Speaker C: To stack our defense.
[01:21:41] Speaker F: What. What was the. What was the trade for again?
[01:21:44] Speaker A: 974 and 130 or something.
[01:21:47] Speaker F: 74.
[01:21:48] Speaker B: Okay. 70.
[01:21:50] Speaker A: It wasn't one that made a lot of sense.
[01:21:53] Speaker B: No, it didn't.
Anna.
Oh, my God. I just.
[01:21:58] Speaker C: Spencer Fano, a Samoan?
[01:22:01] Speaker A: I think.
[01:22:01] Speaker C: So you saw, like, the. The Hawaiian shirts and stuff? I was just.
[01:22:07] Speaker A: I would guess it's a pretty safe bet.
[01:22:13] Speaker B: Spencer. No. So, like, here's the deal. Spencer Vano, he. He tested really well. Athletic blocker.
He could play every position. But this is. This is what scares me, is we didn't take.
We didn't take probably the best offensive lineman necessarily. We took the guy that has versatility. This is one of those things like we talked about just a minute ago, Kenny, like a value Pick to me, like they didn't necessarily pick the best guy available. They picked the guy that they think that he could help us along the way in multiple areas. And to me, that's not good.
[01:22:45] Speaker C: So is he not projected to be like a left tackle or is he just like somebody who can play anyone?
[01:22:51] Speaker A: He's a five tool lineman.
I just think, you know, look, we just went through this experiment last year with Travis Hunter and I know that it was. That's a little different both sides of the ball.
But I think this goes right back to the heart of everything that I was saying, which John knows very well. The NFL is really, really hard.
And I think when you get to that level, if you don't specialize in something, it's so hard to move from the left side of the line to the right side of the line. From the right side of line. Like, I don't think there's a lot of guys that are super successful hall of Fame type talents that spend their career going back and forth playing inside, outside, left, right.
There's not a lot of those guys.
[01:23:36] Speaker F: No.
[01:23:37] Speaker A: You know, when you think about the stalwarts that have played 10 and 15 years in this league that were hall of Fame guys, they were specialists, that was fine. You need that in that because you have to be so good on every play.
I don't know, I'm mixed on it.
[01:23:53] Speaker F: Well, so, I mean, kind of what you're talking about, right? So like for guys like that, they, they have a, a strong side, right? So they'll probably play him on his strongest side. And then they know having the ability, you know, with that value of being versatile, being able to go play guard on the other side. Right. That, that gives them a lot of value.
But they're going to play a strong hand, though, whatever it is.
[01:24:17] Speaker A: But didn't we try Jed Wills's strong hand?
[01:24:21] Speaker B: Yeah, I was muted. I was laughing though.
Yeah. Jed Wills was that guy. He could play anywhere, except he could play nowhere.
[01:24:30] Speaker A: And look, look, guys, I get it. As a Browns fan who has seen, you know, we've had some really great offensive linemen come through Cleveland in the last 20 years.
Tonio Thomas, Alex, like some of these guys. Like really good players.
[01:24:44] Speaker F: Oh, yeah.
[01:24:45] Speaker A: I've also seen a lot of, you know, depth guys, backup, and we've seen a lot of permutations of, you know, hey, how many, how many different offensive lines can we go into a game with this year?
[01:24:58] Speaker B: There's about be 40 more this year.
[01:24:59] Speaker A: Right?
[01:25:00] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:25:00] Speaker A: So I get the need to be Able to have versatile guys that are able to be able to play in different spots.
But I think you're almost planning through worst case scenario instead of planning to win, right? You're like, yeah, I know I'm gonna need this guy at two or three positions potentially. So let's take this one.
[01:25:19] Speaker B: And, and it is funny because it doesn't mesh at all with the press conference from Andrew Barry. He says, we want to draft not on need, but on long term investment. Well, you to me. I'm with you. It sounds like he drafted because he's like, we have a lot of holes on the offensive line. This guy can fill all of them.
[01:25:35] Speaker A: Wherever the hole is, that's where this,
[01:25:39] Speaker B: that has to be on a T shirt somewhere, right? Wherever the hole is this guy goes.
I mean, I don't know.
John, we are going to keep you here all night. We don't need to keep you to 24 because you don't want to hang out with us that long. Let's be honest.
[01:26:00] Speaker A: If you have a pick you want to see at 24, John.
[01:26:03] Speaker F: Huh? You said what?
[01:26:04] Speaker A: Do you have a pick you want to see a 24 or at least a position group. You want to see him address at 24?
[01:26:09] Speaker F: I. I would say receiver. At this point, I feel like offensive line has been addressed at least, you know, before other knees need to be addressed. So, yeah, receiver for me.
[01:26:19] Speaker A: Will you be disappointed if they go tackle again?
[01:26:23] Speaker F: Surprise. No.
Hurt a little bit.
[01:26:28] Speaker B: Yeah, you.
[01:26:29] Speaker A: That's why we love John. He's always keeping it real with us.
[01:26:32] Speaker B: What? The sexy pick diamond just ain't it?
[01:26:36] Speaker F: Yeah.
[01:26:37] Speaker B: John, one more thing before you go.
Just, just a quick free plug here. Why don't you tell us a little bit about King Culture and all the exciting things you guys have going.
[01:26:46] Speaker F: Yeah, man. So King Culture Barber Studio, It's a barber shop my business partner and I started back in 2019. Been open for almost seven years now in June. But it's a multicultural shop.
We serve multi. Multi textures of hair.
And it's. It's been, it's been going great, man. We have barbers and cosmetologists and we're continuing growing, man.
[01:27:10] Speaker B: John, I believe. I don't.
I know you have some news coming up. Is that news that can be shared yet?
[01:27:16] Speaker F: Not yet, but. But I would, I would love to talk about it on here with you
[01:27:20] Speaker B: guys when it does soon, when the time comes.
[01:27:22] Speaker A: The bottom line is that if you want to look as fresh as John,
[01:27:26] Speaker B: John Hughes always looks so good on
[01:27:28] Speaker A: his show, the King Culture, man.
[01:27:30] Speaker F: Appreciate it.
[01:27:30] Speaker B: I mean, you gotta. You got like three foots here and then you got John Hughes. How the other.
I don't know why I call them foots instead of
[01:27:41] Speaker A: John. You're as handsome as ever. Thank you so much for joining us today. We appreciate all your insight. Oh, we got something else.
John, you can't leave yet.
[01:27:48] Speaker B: Nope, you can't leave. You talked about King Culture speaking. Speaking of grooming, when are we going to schedule to get Kenny's Butthole west, man?
[01:27:57] Speaker F: Well, whatever you guys figured out, man, let me know.
[01:28:00] Speaker D: And
[01:28:02] Speaker A: it's all about God is gonna
[01:28:05] Speaker B: be here for that.
[01:28:07] Speaker C: Does John really want that at his shop?
[01:28:09] Speaker B: Oh, no, it's not. It's not happening.
They stay above the shoulders, you know, I don't know.
[01:28:15] Speaker A: That might be something to learn at
[01:28:16] Speaker F: the barber college, man. Like.
[01:28:18] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's it, John. I don't. You know, I. You probably have horrible images in your head right now, so I'm just going to leave you with those and I'm sure we'll have you on again soon.
[01:28:28] Speaker A: John, we love you.
[01:28:29] Speaker F: Thank you, guys. Talk to you.
[01:28:32] Speaker A: Take care.
John Hughes, defensive tackle John Hughes. Big John Hughes joining us on draft night here.
[01:28:44] Speaker B: Love John Hughes.
[01:28:45] Speaker A: So John has left us now. We'll go back to our campfire.
[01:28:48] Speaker C: It's like an episode of Goosebumps.
[01:28:50] Speaker A: This does feel like an episode. Are you afraid of the dark?
[01:28:52] Speaker C: Yeah. Are you afraid of the dark?
[01:28:54] Speaker A: Except for the food is much better.
[01:28:57] Speaker B: I can't stop eating it.
[01:28:58] Speaker A: Although I wonder if they have, like a s' more dessert, because that would go great with our campfire.
[01:29:02] Speaker C: I actually ate a piece of your pizza behind the camera.
I didn't. I just ate it.
[01:29:07] Speaker A: That's fine.
It's got the cup and char pepperonis. I didn't even know that.
[01:29:11] Speaker C: It was really good bone.
[01:29:13] Speaker B: You know, I gotta say, this Bone is maybe the best friend that anyone could ever have.
Kenny is definitely not you.
But Bone wasn't even in the.
No, no. Absolutely not. Bone's one of the best friends you could ever have. But then every once in a while, he does like this. He's like, I'm gonna eat your piece of pizza.
[01:29:30] Speaker C: You know what?
[01:29:30] Speaker A: Ordered a whole pizza.
People would have a.
[01:29:34] Speaker B: Wait, that whole pizza is yours and we're not eating it.
[01:29:37] Speaker A: Owner eating it.
[01:29:38] Speaker B: Shut up. A. I take.
I take back what I said about you, Bone. And this all goes back to Kenny being the worst friend ever.
[01:29:44] Speaker C: You know what? I felt weird, like giving you a slice of Kenny. Thunderstorms Good friend again.
I'll eat it personally, but I'm just not going to be giving it away.
[01:29:53] Speaker A: I'll eat it personally, but I'm not giving it away.
[01:29:56] Speaker B: That's fair. That's fair. I understand. I understand.
[01:29:59] Speaker A: Oh, man.
[01:30:00] Speaker B: We're gonna have you back on in just a minute.
[01:30:02] Speaker C: Sure.
[01:30:02] Speaker B: Can you go fetch our, our other guest?
[01:30:05] Speaker C: Absolutely. I think he's behind me.
[01:30:07] Speaker B: Yeah, I think he is too. All right, go ahead and grab him.
[01:30:10] Speaker A: All right, I'll go, I'll.
[01:30:10] Speaker B: I'll go grab him, actually. Grab him.
[01:30:13] Speaker A: Grab him by the throat.
[01:30:18] Speaker B: Oh, man.
I am.
[01:30:19] Speaker A: Caleb Downs is off the board to the Cowboys. Wow.
[01:30:27] Speaker B: Wow. In case anyone's wondering, at number 10 offensive tackle from Miami. So I don't think we even talked about that, but Caleb downs at number 11.
[01:30:37] Speaker A: Who even did the Giants have? So The Giants had two picks in
[01:30:41] Speaker B: the five and 10, I think.
[01:30:43] Speaker A: Five and 10. Wow. That's a good draft for them.
You address the offensive line, get Jackson dart some help.
[01:30:51] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what you do.
[01:30:52] Speaker A: You add Arvl Reese, who's just going to be a game wrecker.
[01:30:58] Speaker B: The Giants are.
[01:30:59] Speaker A: Giants are here to play.
[01:31:01] Speaker B: The, the Giants are over the last two drafts. They're. They're making it happen.
[01:31:06] Speaker A: Hey, you know what? Just speaking of the draft, I'm, I'm. Look, I'm not a big Notre Dame guy. Right.
[01:31:11] Speaker B: I hate.
[01:31:11] Speaker A: Not very clearly, but one of my
[01:31:15] Speaker B: least favorite people in the entire world likes Notre Dame.
You know who I'm talking about?
[01:31:20] Speaker A: Gotta go there.
Good for running backs. Running backs all over should be proud tonight. They should feel good about themselves and their life choices, especially if you're a young, if you're a young running back.
Because the NFL has devalued the running back position over probably the last decade and for back to back years now, high running back draft picks. I think that's great.
Good for the running backs tonight.
[01:31:50] Speaker B: Sorry, we got another guest in here. Kenny. I'm coming back to that because the last draft, the last running back we took high was Trent Richardson. He's ass.
[01:31:56] Speaker A: Well, not talking about him.
[01:31:58] Speaker B: Well, that's fine. No, we got another guest here.
Yep. Let's try and talk in the microphone there. All the, all the noise behind us is getting us. Yep.
[01:32:08] Speaker D: It's all right. Zach didn't prep me at all, but here we are.
[01:32:11] Speaker B: He's the worst sound man we've ever had. He's the only sound man we've ever had.
[01:32:15] Speaker D: He's the best sound man.
[01:32:16] Speaker B: Look at this.
[01:32:17] Speaker D: He's an awesome guy.
[01:32:17] Speaker A: Yeah, it's an awesome guy round. Jims. Who do we have sitting here? Do you want to introduce our guest?
[01:32:23] Speaker B: I. This is my first time.
[01:32:24] Speaker D: Spencer Phantom.
[01:32:26] Speaker A: I'm the first one.
[01:32:26] Speaker B: We've got Browns first round draft pick Spencer Fano joining us here at Nico. He actually chose to celebrate the draft here at Nico's.
[01:32:34] Speaker A: We've broken so much news tonight.
[01:32:36] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. No. Why don't you go ahead?
[01:32:39] Speaker E: I am.
[01:32:39] Speaker D: I'm Diana.
[01:32:41] Speaker A: Oh, no.
[01:32:42] Speaker B: No.
[01:32:43] Speaker A: We're breaking so much news.
[01:32:46] Speaker B: Will you be filing for divorce?
[01:32:51] Speaker A: I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it.
[01:32:53] Speaker F: Keeper.
[01:32:55] Speaker B: Even though. Even though the firstborn is not. Not yours.
Michael. Andrew Vrabel.
[01:33:04] Speaker D: Shout out to Mike Rabel though.
[01:33:05] Speaker A: Cleveland guy.
[01:33:07] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:33:07] Speaker F: That counts.
[01:33:08] Speaker B: Yep. Yeah, It's. It's wild. No.
[01:33:11] Speaker C: Here.
[01:33:11] Speaker B: Before we go any further with. She's morbid.
Probably.
Yeah. Go ahead. We're getting off track.
[01:33:25] Speaker D: Nico.
[01:33:25] Speaker B: What's up?
He's introducing us on our podcast.
[01:33:29] Speaker D: I'm Tom.
[01:33:30] Speaker B: This is Tom. Tell us who you're with, Tom.
[01:33:33] Speaker D: I was invited by Browns backers. Tim. With Empower Sports.
[01:33:39] Speaker E: Okay.
[01:33:40] Speaker A: Nice.
[01:33:40] Speaker D: Programs for individuals with disabilities. Year round activities all over northeast Ohio. Browns backers. And Nico's Bar and Grill, one of our generous sponsors. They subsidize everything that we do. So grateful to be here with a couple of our donors to watch the Browns do their inevitable trade back. We did get a lineman. I'm pleased with that.
[01:33:59] Speaker B: But happy you left Caleb Downs on the. On the table though.
[01:34:02] Speaker D: We did. We did. And I. Best player available. I actually thought they'd go downs there.
[01:34:06] Speaker A: I am.
[01:34:07] Speaker D: I love to talk about the drafts because, like.
[01:34:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:34:09] Speaker A: I'm very interested. Yeah.
[01:34:11] Speaker B: That's what we talk about. Yeah. Here. Let's do this. Let's do this, Tom. We'll do it. Tell us about Empower Sports. Everything you guys have going on. Let's get that out. Let's do that and then we'll talk draft.
What do you got for us? Nico? Real quick.
He's coming to say, hey.
We knew it was gonna happen.
We knew it was gonna happen.
How do you feel about him?
We didn't.
True. Was that the one you would have taken?
But we got one.
[01:34:45] Speaker A: We got one.
[01:34:46] Speaker B: There you go. Nico's checking in with us. He said we got an offensive lineman. It wouldn't have been who he chose.
[01:34:51] Speaker D: All right, so the pick is in. Do we want to wait till after
[01:34:53] Speaker A: the pick Is we. Let's announce the pick and then we'll announce it.
[01:34:57] Speaker B: The Miami Dolphins here at 12 so Kaden Proctor, I saw his mouth move.
[01:35:04] Speaker A: There's the guy.
[01:35:05] Speaker B: Katie Raptor is off the board. That's somebody everybody thought we might be able to get at 24.
[01:35:08] Speaker A: So it's a big, big human.
[01:35:10] Speaker B: You get enough big asses, eventually have
[01:35:12] Speaker A: an offensive, eventually have a rap video.
[01:35:14] Speaker B: Yeah.
All right. So, Tom, tell us about Empower Sports and what you guys are all about and how you guys got hooked up with the North Royalton Browns.
[01:35:22] Speaker D: Yeah, for sure, sir.
[01:35:23] Speaker B: Your name actually? Tom. I feel like you're punking me.
[01:35:25] Speaker E: No, I.
[01:35:26] Speaker B: Okay.
Spencer Fano.
[01:35:30] Speaker D: I'm Mike Brayblock.
I'm not Braybull. I'm Rossini's husband. I'm Tom. I'm the director of Empower Sports. We do year round sports and exercise programs for athletes with disabilities. So one of the only fully inclusive programs in Northeast Ohio. We serve kids, adults with intellectual physical disabilities just trying to provide opportunities to play sports and enjoy the, the same games and, and sports that they're typical, make friends, develop self esteem communication skills and just have an opportunity to be at the start of the show. So we make those opportunities accessible and we integrate typically developing peers to help foster relationships between diverse groups of people.
So just bringing all of the benefits and great things about team sports to people with disabilities.
[01:36:14] Speaker B: And how did you get hooked up with. With North Royalton and Nikos, bro?
[01:36:19] Speaker D: I don't know.
[01:36:21] Speaker A: Good question.
[01:36:22] Speaker D: Tim Rudnick just called me out of the blue and he said, hey, I'm, I'm Tim and I'm with the Browns backers and we want to support you guys. And I said, hell yeah, man. I love the Browns and I love support for Empower Sports. So no, Tim, Tim saw a video that we had on with the Cleveland fans. We did an event at Progressive Field last year. Tim saw that while, while watching the game. And Tim has or had a brother with disabilities and said, hey, this is something that's important to me and I'd love to link up with you, try to do something, bring the Browns backers, get us behind you, volunteer with the program, meet some of the kids, sponsor what you're doing.
So those are. The calls are fewer and far between, but just Tim, what an awesome guy, just reached out out of the blue and we met here for a beer or two, talked about what we're all about, and threw his weight behind us. So super grateful for Tim and Nico, of course.
[01:37:17] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely awesome.
[01:37:18] Speaker A: I.
I was involved in the Special Olympics quite a bit. We did, we coached like the swimming teams and things back when I was in college. Just very special programs and those are. Those are all.
[01:37:29] Speaker B: It's in the name.
[01:37:30] Speaker A: So we appreciate all the work you do.
[01:37:33] Speaker D: Yeah, no, thank you so much and thanks for your time supporting the kids and the families that we love.
[01:37:37] Speaker A: Oh, my College. What. Where'd you go to school?
I was at Kent State at the time and can't read, can't write Kent from there, but I was at Kent State while we were involved in the program.
[01:37:48] Speaker D: Yeah, Good for you, man.
[01:37:50] Speaker B: Yeah, he got into college. It's hard to believe.
[01:37:55] Speaker A: Now I'm here at Nicos, you're telling
[01:37:59] Speaker D: us how do we feel about pick number nine?
[01:38:02] Speaker B: How did you, like. Do you want me to be honest? I haven't given, like, a raw reaction. I'm just kind of like. I guess I kind of did because I groaned when it happened. But I do not like that pick at all.
Not that it's anything particular against Spencer Fano. I know he was one of the top offensive tackles, if not the top offensive tackle for some people in the draft, but he just doesn't score touchdowns. Well, he doesn't.
[01:38:25] Speaker A: Does not score touchdown.
[01:38:26] Speaker B: That's a. That's a big deal. But he's been still like, he's. He's now.
I don't know. Like, I would have rather taken Caleb Downs, first of all, because he's available.
And honestly, like, you get to that point and you don't want to go with Caleb Downs.
I know this is probably unpopular. I might have traded back again.
[01:38:47] Speaker A: Here's.
[01:38:47] Speaker B: Here's what else to me, like, all those linemen, they're kind of interchangeable. Like, the top four linemen in this draft are kind of interchangeable. So if you drop down to like, like somewhere between now, where we're at 13 right now and like 17, and you accumulate more draft picks, like, you're going to get one of those linemen anyways.
[01:39:03] Speaker A: Here's what I'll say, though, is, and I know it just happened, but I think this trade is actually aging well already or the, the pick, the trade in the pick. Because if you look now at 9, 10, and 12 offensive tackles, and there was a lot of conversation leading up to the draft that maybe you could get that tackle at 24, maybe you could trade back deeper into the draft and acquire picks.
[01:39:30] Speaker B: Now they got their guy.
[01:39:31] Speaker A: And what we've seen now is that other teams valued all these guys high.
[01:39:36] Speaker B: Yeah, we had said.
[01:39:37] Speaker A: We had said coming into the draft, like, we weren't sure any of these guys were top 10 guys. Well, now three NFL programs that said, hey, all three of these guys, we believe in them at least up through 12.
[01:39:47] Speaker B: Yeah. No, I. So I guess to answer your question, though, I don't really like it.
I probably would have done something different, but to be honest, like, at that point, a trade down almost doesn't make sense. You already traded down once, so, like, what else are you gonna do?
[01:40:00] Speaker A: Like, yeah, I'm no Mel Kiper.
[01:40:03] Speaker D: I'm no Todd McShay.
[01:40:04] Speaker A: No, you're Tom.
[01:40:06] Speaker B: You're Tom. You're Martin.
[01:40:15] Speaker D: I don't hate it, man. I. I don't know enough about the. The various linemans and what their skill set is, but at the end of the day, they got to run the ball like 40 to 45 times a game next year. And whether that's, you know, a mix of Quin, Sean and Dylan Sampson or other playmakers they're going to bring in, I don't know if you're getting a. A top end receiver and going to get a lot of value over that out of that in the next couple of years. And you. I don't know, maybe at 24, you go, Lemon, get a slot guy. But they gotta be able to.
[01:40:44] Speaker B: We got a couple listeners that are, if we get Lemon, he's gonna be so excited.
I talked about him all season long, commented on everything we had, and yeah, just. There's some guys out there that like Lemon. I'm not Lemon, to me, though, is. It gets a little dicey because he's just small. He's that small, quick guy that the Browns seem to draft every single year.
[01:41:06] Speaker A: I think this pick feels in real time worse than it is because Caleb Downs going after that feels really bad because Caleb Downs is a game record.
He's a guy that instantly makes an impact and a difference on this defense. As good as they are, this guy can play with that crew. So that hurts.
[01:41:27] Speaker B: But I think that's what it is,
[01:41:29] Speaker A: a position of need. And we've been all over Andrew Barry about not trying to outsmart everybody else and play the long game and, you know, whatever. Invest in long term futures of the team playing stock market to just pick positions of need. And that's what he did here. And this is a safe one, right? Just like last year. Mason Graham, safe pick.
So, like this. This draft right now does not get Andrew Berry fired, at least not next year.
True.
[01:41:55] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, I mean, I guess it's still good. He could completely wreck the rest of the draft.
[01:42:00] Speaker C: But.
[01:42:01] Speaker B: But as of now, he's not.
[01:42:02] Speaker A: As of now, as of now.
[01:42:04] Speaker B: As of now, he's not getting fired.
Yeah, I just.
I think you're exactly. I think you hit the nail on the head. I think it's. It's simply that Caleb Downs with the very next pick.
Most Browns fans are homers for Ohio State. We don't try and hide that. We know it.
[01:42:19] Speaker A: I wasn't even a homer about it, though. All I said was. And clearly, again, the four players in the top 10, like the Ohio State players were really good this year.
[01:42:26] Speaker B: I'm just saying it heightens, like, that whole feeling of like, oh, you got Caleb Downs there.
[01:42:31] Speaker D: He's the best player available. City right there.
I don't hit it. I don't hate it. You got to be able to protect your quarterback, whoever that is. Now for the next six months, we can talk about showing lots of machine.
[01:42:42] Speaker A: Oh, God.
[01:42:43] Speaker B: Who do you like?
[01:42:43] Speaker A: Here we go.
[01:42:44] Speaker B: Who do you like?
[01:42:54] Speaker D: It's gotta be.
It's gotta be Deshaun Watson.
[01:42:58] Speaker B: You don't like. You're not a Shador fan.
[01:43:00] Speaker D: I'm not a. I don't know.
[01:43:02] Speaker B: It sounds like you're a hater.
[01:43:03] Speaker A: It sounds like you're a hater.
[01:43:04] Speaker B: This guy hates your door.
[01:43:06] Speaker D: So polarizing. It's gotta be.
[01:43:07] Speaker E: You love him.
[01:43:08] Speaker D: I think he did some nice things last year.
[01:43:10] Speaker A: You can't sit on the fence, Tom.
[01:43:12] Speaker D: I think he's okay.
[01:43:13] Speaker A: I think he's a good.
[01:43:14] Speaker D: He's a good backup level.
[01:43:17] Speaker A: I could be wrong.
[01:43:17] Speaker D: Shador, if you're out there, man, prove me wrong. I mean, I love everything that you're doing. I think he's carried himself extremely well.
The spotlight's always on him. He's a really mature kid, and he played well in spots last year. I don't care who plays quarterback next year. Just hand the ball to Quinon Jenkinson.
Don't throw it to the other team. And let's. Let's keep things interesting.
[01:43:37] Speaker B: Ty Simpson won't be Ty Simpson. Ty Simpson gone at 13 to the Rams.
[01:43:42] Speaker D: Sooner or later, Matthew Stafford's coming.
[01:43:44] Speaker B: That actually is probably going to work out.
[01:43:47] Speaker A: I mean, who had Ty Simpson going top 15 a year ago, right? Like, who had Ty Simpson on their card to say, this guy's, you know, borderline top 10 pick.
[01:43:58] Speaker B: Seriously, though, Ty Simpson is probably in the best situation you could possibly imagine
[01:44:02] Speaker A: for a quarterback coming out under McVeigh.
[01:44:05] Speaker D: Sit around for a year or two, learn from Stafford. That's a great spot.
[01:44:09] Speaker B: Yeah, I. I wasn't real high on Ty Simpson for the Browns, but going to the Rams, I Foresee him being pretty successful.
[01:44:16] Speaker A: That's a pick that makes sense. Right? Like they can play in the same offense. Not that they're identical player but like they can play.
[01:44:21] Speaker B: They do a lot of the same style of game.
[01:44:23] Speaker D: Orlovsky's fired up some in his in
[01:44:26] Speaker A: his nude tan pants.
[01:44:35] Speaker B: You would have wrecked him.
[01:44:38] Speaker A: I'm just glad that he went because now I don't got to have the conversation for the rest.
About 24 tom. Were you a big fan of the Tom Green show?
This is the Tom Green show. This is my favorite Rich Joe bone. You know the song Green had a good run there.
[01:44:56] Speaker D: He had a couple of his road trip.
[01:44:58] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:44:58] Speaker B: Freddie got fingered.
I can see through wooden doors for the cheese.
[01:45:08] Speaker A: He was married to like Drew Baror.
[01:45:09] Speaker B: Right.
Some weird on his I'm the backwards man. The backwards man. I can see backwards fast as you can.
[01:45:16] Speaker A: It's kind of amazing that he kind of fell out of Thomas. He was a cultural phenomenon come from it's I'm next to Tom.
[01:45:25] Speaker B: Tom Green.
Tomi Brable greens just shape shifter.
He's also Spencer Phantom New York after campfire here.
[01:45:38] Speaker A: So there's a lot of shapeshifters running around.
[01:45:40] Speaker B: What do we got going on here?
[01:45:41] Speaker A: So Bray Wyatt.
[01:45:43] Speaker D: I'll get off the pod before I I'm kind of a loose cannon. I can jump off before I say something. Anything else you guys want to know about in power sports or my draft picker.
[01:45:52] Speaker B: What do you want at?
[01:45:58] Speaker D: I mean what are receivers are a million lemon? Maybe Denzel. Denzel Boston.
[01:46:04] Speaker A: That's the guy.
[01:46:05] Speaker D: Big guy.
[01:46:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:46:07] Speaker A: I like that. I like that. Or Omar Cooper.
[01:46:09] Speaker D: Maybe this. That's not Omar. That's someone from Alabama. Omar Cooper I think would be a good pickup.
[01:46:14] Speaker B: David Boston. Was that his name?
[01:46:16] Speaker A: David? Yeah.
[01:46:17] Speaker D: Was David Boston the Ohio Staters?
[01:46:20] Speaker B: Yeah.
I keep getting the names. I know I'm not I'm only. Well I probably Stenzel boss.
[01:46:27] Speaker A: That's how I said trust in Tom Green Rossini.
[01:46:30] Speaker B: This is the Tom Green show.
[01:46:32] Speaker A: It is my favorite red show. We're gonna get copyright and desist honestly.
[01:46:38] Speaker D: Yeah that was Tom was hilarious.
[01:46:41] Speaker A: I have a question for you Tom before you leave the pod.
Where can people go find more information about Empower Sports and how can they get involved and help through come through
[01:46:51] Speaker D: Find us at Nico. No. Thank you for that question.
Visit our website empowersports.org you can find more information on the get involved page. You can sign up to volunteer. You can figure out how to sign up for our golf outing.
We Just want more people to surround the kids and families we serve. So we'd love for anyone that's listening right now, check out our website. We're on social media on Instagram, Facebook.
What is this called now? Twitter, X, Whatever that is. Whatever Elon Musk is doing, we're on it.
[01:47:17] Speaker B: Have you been on there? We just talked about this a little while ago. You've been on. You've been on X lately.
[01:47:20] Speaker A: I don't have an X.
[01:47:22] Speaker B: Good, good call.
It's wild. It's just a wild, wild west. It's like they've taken all precautions, like completely off.
[01:47:29] Speaker D: Just.
[01:47:30] Speaker B: It's just you go on there and you don't know what you're gonna see.
[01:47:33] Speaker D: Don't just strip them. He's like, wall man.
Yeah. No, find us, find us on social media. Come to the website. Call me on my cell phone. I don't care. But we want to support around.
[01:47:44] Speaker A: We'll post your cell phone here.
When, when is the. The golf outing?
[01:47:52] Speaker D: June 19th, Fowler's Mill.
[01:47:53] Speaker A: Oh, it's coming up.
[01:47:54] Speaker D: It's a close or two. Yeah, a couple of months here. It's a great outing. A lot of bang for your buck. Everything that we do, fundraiser event wise, the entry fee to be here that you are offered, the ratio there is out of control. You know, it's a pretty, pretty light.
[01:48:10] Speaker A: Can't beat that on the registration, but
[01:48:12] Speaker D: we're gonna have beer tents all over the place. We got a cigar bar out there.
[01:48:15] Speaker B: Hell yeah.
[01:48:15] Speaker D: So we take care of our people.
So, yeah, look us up, get involved, come volunteer, Come see the programs. That's the main thing that I could ask people like, hey, just come and cheer on the kids. Volunteer on the football field, basketball court with us, wherever it is. We just. We need good people to surround the kids and families.
[01:48:32] Speaker A: Sounds like an awesome.
[01:48:33] Speaker B: Stay here real quick. Baltimore's picking.
[01:48:36] Speaker A: Tom, you can't leave.
Don't move.
[01:48:47] Speaker B: Never heard of her guard.
[01:48:52] Speaker A: Tom, do you have your own.
[01:48:53] Speaker B: Do you have your own podcast?
Do you want one?
[01:49:00] Speaker D: I know loose can and I've said at least three things today that I'm ashamed of.
[01:49:05] Speaker A: It's okay. It was just live.
[01:49:07] Speaker B: It was just right. Yeah, yeah. So no big deal. Oh, Angry Bobby's here. So hang on.
[01:49:12] Speaker F: Stay here.
[01:49:13] Speaker B: I actually want to introduce you to Angry Bobby.
[01:49:15] Speaker A: Tom is not allowed to leave this show. This is the time show.
[01:49:19] Speaker B: Listen, I'm making business deals right here. I'm gonna hook him up with the. The Brownsbackers of North Jersey all over the local.
[01:49:27] Speaker D: Is everyone we Are Northeast Ohio, but
[01:49:29] Speaker A: we are ready to launch. This guy's from New Jersey.
[01:49:31] Speaker B: Yeah. You're going tell him we're doing business
[01:49:34] Speaker A: in New Jersey tonight.
Is this Angry?
[01:49:41] Speaker B: What's up, Angry Bobby?
You got to go somewhere quieter, man.
[01:49:46] Speaker A: I can hear you now.
[01:49:47] Speaker B: Can you hear me?
[01:49:49] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:49:50] Speaker B: Angry Bobby from the North Jersey Brownsbackers.
[01:49:53] Speaker A: How are you Browns backers of New York Jersey
[01:50:00] Speaker B: Browns backers are here.
Listen, Angry Bobby, you can't tell me that anymore because you sent me a hat that says North Jersey Browns back.
[01:50:11] Speaker A: What's going on, boys?
[01:50:12] Speaker C: Not much.
[01:50:13] Speaker B: So real quick so that we can let Tom Green leave.
We. We have to introduce you to Tom here. Tom is with Empower Sports, and.
And we just. You guys are gonna hook up. You guys are gonna do some stuff together.
[01:50:32] Speaker A: I don't know what that means.
[01:50:35] Speaker B: Turn your camera sideways, Bob.
[01:50:38] Speaker A: Ocean County.
[01:50:39] Speaker D: Is he this guy in Ocean County?
[01:50:44] Speaker C: Okay.
[01:50:44] Speaker D: I got an email today.
[01:50:45] Speaker B: Turn it the other way, Bobby.
[01:50:48] Speaker C: How many?
[01:50:49] Speaker B: Keep going.
I don't know. Just keeping it how it was, Bob. Angry Bobby. Just leave it that way.
[01:51:01] Speaker D: Yep.
[01:51:02] Speaker B: No, I just.
[01:51:04] Speaker A: Again, I always put a portrait mode. I don't want to put it in portrait mode.
Here they come. Here comes my technical.
[01:51:11] Speaker B: We are live.
[01:51:12] Speaker A: Here comes my technical team.
[01:51:16] Speaker B: Is it Kevin?
Timmy.
Landscape mode.
[01:51:27] Speaker A: Can't do it. Can't do it.
[01:51:29] Speaker B: All right.
[01:51:30] Speaker A: We're live in Jersey.
[01:51:32] Speaker D: Yes.
[01:51:34] Speaker B: Brownsbackers group.
[01:51:35] Speaker A: This isn't just a Brownsbaggers group. This is chapter of the year.
It's so important.
Wait, wait. Hold it. Hold it. The other way.
[01:51:50] Speaker B: I don't know what's happened.
[01:51:52] Speaker A: Oh, it doesn't work.
Doesn't work.
You guys, it's a draft. Quit playing with your phone. Tell us about the draft. What's going on over there in Jersey? What's up, gents? We had a good show out. I took over for him because he's can't handle it. We had a good show out.
No one is really disappointed, but once the Titans took tape, everyone was like, what's going to happen now?
Tyson with. I. I was going to be happy with Tyson, but I'm happy that they're beeping off the line. So I can't complain.
But. All right, here's Bobby D back.
I'm glad he took over the
[01:52:39] Speaker B: Angry Bobby. I think you guys are having a pretty hardcore party over there, so I'm gonna let you guys get back to it. But here's the deal. I wanted you. I wanted to introduce you to Tom. We'll get you guys together.
You guys are gonna raise Some money for charity and do some great things. Brown's backers, North Jersey and empower sports here.
[01:52:55] Speaker D: Let's make it happen.
[01:52:57] Speaker A: We're gonna make it happen. Let's do it. So we're coming out to. We're coming out to Ohio in June for the TUS brands back.
[01:53:07] Speaker B: Oh, nice. We're doing a show there.
[01:53:11] Speaker A: Yes, we'll be there. Oh, boy.
[01:53:13] Speaker B: We're gonna be there.
[01:53:15] Speaker A: Me and send me your comments.
Well, we. We'll see you then there as well.
[01:53:19] Speaker B: The greatest of the family, the wife.
[01:53:23] Speaker A: And where's our boy Monaco tonight?
[01:53:26] Speaker B: Nakam's right here.
[01:53:29] Speaker C: Hey,
[01:53:33] Speaker D: it's.
[01:53:33] Speaker A: It's over all now. Tell us about the pick. Come on.
We're excited.
We're excited.
We're gonna stay here until 24 and see what happens.
[01:53:48] Speaker B: Hey, it's hard to hear. We're live and everything's getting great.
We're gonna call. We'll have you on later and we'll take. We'll do this, guys.
[01:53:57] Speaker A: Got to get a little more light. Yeah, we're here.
[01:54:01] Speaker B: You can't see us. Look, See, guys. Angry Bob, Angry Bobby.
[01:54:09] Speaker A: We love you. Thank you.
No, guys, just wanted to say thanks
[01:54:19] Speaker D: for having me on. Appreciate you.
[01:54:21] Speaker B: Yeah, sorry that went long.
[01:54:24] Speaker A: Tom, thank you so much for joining us.
[01:54:26] Speaker B: We're going to be responsible for empower sports going nationwide.
[01:54:28] Speaker A: I'm in. We're going to launch chapters everywhere.
[01:54:31] Speaker D: That's the vision. That's the long term vision.
[01:54:38] Speaker A: Elon Musk launches. Rockets Burning river Sportscast launches and powers. Let's go. Let's do it.
[01:54:44] Speaker B: Hell yeah. So, Tom, thank you again so much. We appreciate it. Go enjoy the rest of the dream.
All right.
[01:54:53] Speaker A: All right. Where are we at in this draft? The Buccaneers pick is in.
[01:54:58] Speaker B: It got wickedy here for a while
[01:54:59] Speaker A: and things were getting a little out of control.
[01:55:02] Speaker B: I just let it happen. What's worse, again,
[01:55:06] Speaker A: I like that they brought Tom Green a beer. They were like, oh, you're on the show now.
[01:55:12] Speaker B: You want something?
[01:55:23] Speaker A: Reuben Bane. There's a big name.
Reuben Bain. Caught a lot of felt like energy, momentum this week. I'm in brown circles.
[01:55:36] Speaker B: Bone serving me.
[01:55:37] Speaker A: I think we might. We thought he might have went a little earlier, but. Good player.
That's a good pick for Tampa.
[01:55:45] Speaker B: It's hard for him to go earlier when there's a run on tackles.
[01:55:48] Speaker A: True. There were tackles all over and then a quarterback.
[01:55:58] Speaker B: You know what I like about the draft so far?
[01:56:00] Speaker A: What do you like about the draft so far?
[01:56:02] Speaker B: I mean, we could say this pretty much every year, but Once again, proven the draft is completely unpredictable.
[01:56:10] Speaker A: You can't predict it.
[01:56:15] Speaker B: Like, honestly, Tate went at what. What was it? Four? And it threw. It threw everything off. Nobody knew what to do. Now he went at 4 because 5 was Arvel Reese to the Giants.
[01:56:27] Speaker A: You're right. He went at 4.
[01:56:28] Speaker B: So he went at 4 and nobody knew what to do from that offense.
[01:56:33] Speaker A: That's true.
The jets pick is in. I like that. The draft is picking up steam now. Yeah, I think we're getting pixie quick.
[01:56:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:56:41] Speaker A: Because the sooner it's over, the sooner I can go to bed.
[01:56:44] Speaker B: I'm pretty tired.
[01:56:45] Speaker A: To steal a line from Bone.
I'm pretty tired. Time to go to bed.
And the faster these picks go, the faster we are to seeing who the Browns pick at 24.
[01:56:54] Speaker B: Listen, I just wanted to tell everybody at home, if you could see our outline for this show, we covered none of it. None of it. It was planned out to the minute.
Live shows are difficult.
[01:57:06] Speaker A: Well, it didn't help that we started almost an hour late.
And that was not a Nico's problem. That was a burning sportscast, technical problem. Trying to get everything hooked up.
But, you know, we'll do better next time, you know, live and learn, then get loves.
[01:57:21] Speaker B: We'll be back next month with a live show.
[01:57:23] Speaker C: Actually.
[01:57:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:57:25] Speaker B: Well, no, Two months, June.
[01:57:27] Speaker A: We'll try really hard to get that one started on time.
[01:57:29] Speaker B: Yeah, and. And yeah, we get better every time. You know,
[01:57:35] Speaker A: that's what she said.
Why Reuben Bain can bench press £400.
[01:57:43] Speaker F: That's a lot.
[01:57:44] Speaker B: Bone.
Bone.
We're bringing Bone back on the show.
[01:57:50] Speaker A: Bones trying to grown's trying to sustain himself. He's eating. He's eating my pizza.
[01:57:55] Speaker B: Bone doesn't stay up this late.
He served me your pizza.
[01:58:00] Speaker A: It was good pizza. The. The food here has been top notch. Oh, yeah, my wings were spectacular. I know you had a euro.
[01:58:06] Speaker B: Don't say the other way.
[01:58:08] Speaker A: You had a euro.
But I had the pizza as well. And a couple slices there was really, really good.
This place is. This is really cool. Look, I. I will be honest. Like, I live south of Akron, so I don't spend a lot of time up in these parts unless I'm working.
So I. I wasn't super familiar, but this is a place that I will come back to again.
I like Nico's and I like Nico.
It helps when the place is run by a swell dude.
[01:58:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
Bone, you're back in.
[01:58:42] Speaker A: Bone is back in. We're tagging him back in.
First we talked to Tom Green.
Tom Green show It is my favorite.
[01:58:53] Speaker B: We gotta stop singing that and not our song.
[01:58:56] Speaker A: And now we're bringing the bone man back in for some, for some bone action. Bone bone on bone action.
[01:59:03] Speaker B: What are your thoughts so far in the draft? I mean, this thing's been wild
[01:59:08] Speaker C: the entire draft, huh?
[01:59:10] Speaker D: Wow.
[01:59:12] Speaker B: Give it to us straight.
[01:59:13] Speaker C: Pick her.
[01:59:13] Speaker B: Pick, though. Well, full analysis. We're gonna take a break here and
[01:59:18] Speaker C: let you talk to this Ruben Bane. Wasn't he projected to possibly be like a top five pick?
[01:59:22] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what we were just talking about that we thought. A lot of people thought he would probably go a little bit earlier.
[01:59:27] Speaker C: I was kind of amused that I just saw that. I can't really hear the TVs in here, but I, I just looked at the screen and it goes, this guy had the shortest arms ever drafted by defense end or something.
I was like, wow, that's nice to be known as, you know, is this. I just thought it was kind of funny that that's the headline they had for him.
[01:59:45] Speaker A: But that was a big part of the reason why they thought that. I mean, that he fell a little bit and there was a lot of talk about his arm length or whatever. Yeah, little arms. Little arms. You know, little arms means little gloves.
[01:59:59] Speaker C: Yeah.
Short sleeves.
[02:00:01] Speaker A: Short sleeves.
The Jets. Oh, Kenyon Zadiq.
[02:00:06] Speaker B: I'm just a boy in a short sleeve shirt. I wouldn't.
[02:00:09] Speaker A: Look, I.
I would not have minded Sadiq here in Cleveland. I thought that would have been a cool pick. I think a lot of people were like, shut up. Why do we. We don't need him. We got Fanning.
[02:00:19] Speaker C: Just stack our tight ends.
[02:00:20] Speaker B: But Fanning phone calls him.
[02:00:23] Speaker A: Sadiq's a playmaker, man.
[02:00:24] Speaker C: Harold Fanning.
[02:00:26] Speaker A: Harold Fanning.
[02:00:27] Speaker D: Jean
[02:00:30] Speaker A: Ruben Bane, though, just going back to him, also was in the news a lot this week around the car accident.
So he was.
[02:00:38] Speaker C: He was in a car accident?
[02:00:40] Speaker A: Yes.
[02:00:41] Speaker C: Okay. Again, I didn't hear about this.
[02:00:45] Speaker A: I don't know a lot of it, but there was. I think there was like someone passed away. So. Okay. It was not, you know, good press before the draft.
So maybe that's part of the reason why I kind of fell out of that.
[02:00:58] Speaker D: Yeah,
[02:01:00] Speaker A: but in that, in the short arms.
[02:01:03] Speaker C: Yeah, he's got short arms.
[02:01:04] Speaker A: But really a problem.
[02:01:07] Speaker C: I don't know. I.
I'm really hoping we get a receiver with our 24th pick.
I don't know who is who. Who that's going to be.
[02:01:14] Speaker B: You kind of have to. What else are you gonna pick him?
[02:01:17] Speaker C: Andrew Barry just doesn't address It. He just doesn't.
[02:01:21] Speaker A: Well, there's at least 24 positions,
[02:01:26] Speaker D: so
[02:01:26] Speaker A: he could pick one. Any of the other 23.
[02:01:29] Speaker C: That's. That's very true. And he probably will, he probably won't address it because everybody and their mother wants a receiver, and he just won't do it.
He just has strong faith in Jerry Judy or he wants to lose this year.
[02:01:45] Speaker A: I don't think he wants to lose this year because I have to imagine if they have another really poor season that he is probably gonna line.
[02:01:52] Speaker C: But I mean, we thought that last year. I thought, well, that's true.
[02:01:56] Speaker B: Well, he successfully pinned the whole thing on.
[02:01:58] Speaker C: Yeah, he.
Kevin Spansky.
[02:02:01] Speaker B: Yeah, true.
[02:02:02] Speaker A: So let's talk receivers. I mean, who's left out here? That's like first round worthy. You've got Makai Lemon, Denzel Boston, Omar Cooper out in Indiana. Casey Concepcion was a lot of talk on him during the week.
[02:02:18] Speaker C: Body size, like the two first guys. You said, Lemon and Boston. Those are two bigger sizes.
[02:02:22] Speaker A: No, Lemon, Lemon's five listed at 5 11. Austin is 6 4.
[02:02:27] Speaker C: Okay.
[02:02:27] Speaker A: Boston's a big body, 6 4, 2 12.
And Omar Cooper is another guy that's on the shorter side. Six foot around 200 pounds. So.
And then Casey Concepcion is another.
He's kind of same size, 6 foot, 196.
[02:02:43] Speaker B: I'd go, Denzel Boston.
[02:02:45] Speaker A: I thought Concepcion was smaller than me. I don't know if he, just because it's fast, he plays like a small guy.
[02:02:50] Speaker B: 511, 198.
[02:02:54] Speaker A: I haven't been six 1, 196, but six in one hand and half a dozen in the other.
[02:02:59] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, that's what she said.
[02:03:01] Speaker C: I guess I, I, to be honest, like before the draft weeks ago, and, and I said, okay, they go interchangeably. Offensive line and then wide receiver or wide receiver, offensive line, line. I believe. I, I thought that I would be happy. So I guess if that's the case, then right now, not really, because we haven't got the receiver yet. But if I'm going back to my, my past self, you're like, I can't
[02:03:23] Speaker B: really be upset about this.
[02:03:24] Speaker C: Yeah, I, I wouldn't be. But we still haven't picked that, you know, 24th pick, so.
[02:03:28] Speaker B: Yeah. So of the receivers, though, I mean, do you have a favorite bone?
[02:03:32] Speaker A: A favorite bone? Do you have a favorite bone?
[02:03:33] Speaker C: I want a bigger guy. So I would say Boston. He's more of a familiar name.
[02:03:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[02:03:38] Speaker C: I haven't honestly looked at a lot of the receivers besides the top, you know, five guys or whatever it's been. So I would lean towards Boston at this point.
[02:03:47] Speaker B: Yeah. 6, 4, 2 12.
[02:03:50] Speaker A: We just haven't had a lot of those guys.
[02:03:52] Speaker B: What was his 40 time?
[02:03:53] Speaker A: I was actually just looking for that
[02:03:55] Speaker B: because he did not run a 40 at the combine. Top. His top metric at the combine was a 6.82 second three cone drill. Just. I mean, I know that doesn't mean much to anybody, but what that translates to is he's. He's very shifty. He's got a ton of agility. So especially for a taller receiver like that, it's rare to find a tall guy like that. I can move that. So you. You couple that, you know, his, his height, his size, his. His physicality with the fact that he's shifty as well. And I can see this guy getting open fairly easily. Yoke is what's the biggest problem the receivers have had for the Browns last two years?
[02:04:31] Speaker A: Catching the football.
[02:04:33] Speaker B: Not getting the second biggest.
[02:04:35] Speaker A: Yeah, they run next to each other on every play. They run in bunches.
[02:04:38] Speaker B: That's a Kevin Stefanski problem.
[02:04:40] Speaker A: They all run the same route.
[02:04:42] Speaker B: All right, let's keep going down the list.
They don't get open. There's no separation at all. And I think Denzel, Boston is going to give you.
[02:04:50] Speaker A: Well, they're just not very good. That's part of the problem. I mean Jerry Judy we expect to more of, but the rest of that room is just not super strong. I mean it's a lot of like young like. We hope they get it together. Guys, what Tman.
[02:05:04] Speaker C: Is he on his fourth year now or is he on his third year?
[02:05:06] Speaker A: Yeah, we just keep waiting for him to do anything.
So I don't know. I would just did a quick look and at least from a draft grade standpoint they have Boston plugged in at a 45 to 46 estimated on the 40 because he didn't run one at the combine. He did do 42420 in the short shuttle, so that's pretty fast.
[02:05:34] Speaker E: Yeah.
[02:05:34] Speaker A: Also put up a 35 and a 37 inch vertical.
[02:05:39] Speaker B: Not bad.
[02:05:39] Speaker A: Which of your six four is usually enough?
[02:05:42] Speaker B: Yeah, you can throw down some pretty wild dunks at that point.
[02:05:45] Speaker C: And we're still looking at six other teams picking before us at this point. So yeah, who knows if he's there but that'd be. I think that'd be a solid pick.
A pretty good first round for the Browns if they were to able to land that their top lineman and then a solid receiver.
[02:06:01] Speaker B: You know, it's wild. Is Even after the, the draft is over, like for the, for the next several months, everybody's gonna be talking about the draft. Who won, who lost. Ain't nobody know. Ain't nobody know. Nobody will know until halfway through next season.
[02:06:17] Speaker C: Man, we, we had the defensive rookie of the year and I don't think anybody, nobody would have thought that.
[02:06:22] Speaker A: No, no, no. We were, I mean, we were all mildly excited. Like, we were like, we feel like this is a good pick, but we had no idea what we were in store for the Lions. Pick is in Bone. Who are they going to take?
[02:06:34] Speaker B: Is that. Is that Mendoza on stage to do the thing?
[02:06:38] Speaker C: Cousin. His youngest cousin.
[02:06:40] Speaker A: Little Mendoza, Little dozer.
[02:06:45] Speaker B: Who are they going to take?
[02:06:46] Speaker C: I think they're going to pick a lineman.
[02:06:48] Speaker B: There's been a run on them.
They run all over.
[02:06:52] Speaker A: Run all over.
Detroit Lions selects.
[02:06:59] Speaker B: We were really trucking along here. Now Detroit's slowing everything.
[02:07:03] Speaker C: Yeah. This is the slowest pick in the first round.
[02:07:10] Speaker B: Tackle, I think. Yeah.
[02:07:11] Speaker A: Blake Miller.
[02:07:13] Speaker C: Ah, he's out of. I think I heard Strongsville or something like that. He's right around our area.
[02:07:17] Speaker B: No way.
[02:07:18] Speaker A: Nice. Bone has been scouting.
[02:07:21] Speaker C: Heard it on the radio. Blake Miller from Clemson and my last. Well,
[02:07:30] Speaker B: What was that?
[02:07:31] Speaker A: Blake Miller is a 17 pick in the draft.
[02:07:34] Speaker C: I want to say Strongsville. I believe he's from Northeast Ohio.
[02:07:39] Speaker B: Well, you're the fact checker.
[02:07:41] Speaker C: I mean, we're literally right next to Strongsville right now. Is it North Royalton next to Strongsville?
[02:07:45] Speaker A: It's like one in the same.
[02:07:49] Speaker B: Strongsville, Ohio.
[02:07:51] Speaker A: Nice. How'd you know?
[02:07:53] Speaker C: Heard it on the radio.
[02:07:54] Speaker B: On the radio.
[02:07:55] Speaker C: I just retained that information. Like, like a wild mongoose.
[02:07:59] Speaker A: It's interesting that he wasn't in the top echelon of tackles that were talked about, like to go in the top 10.
This guy had 54 career starts. That's a lot. I mean, that's one of the big things that like Nil has changed and things have made it hard for scouts is that you have these guys that have like a Ty Simpson that play for a year and you really kind of don't know what you have.
[02:08:21] Speaker C: He's a, he's a left tackle too, right. Like he played left tackle in college.
[02:08:26] Speaker A: It looks like they're looking at him
[02:08:27] Speaker C: for right for right tackle. Okay.
[02:08:30] Speaker A: He's 67372, big boy, kind of finished product. Played a lot of ball. It's a good pick.
[02:08:36] Speaker B: High floor tackle is what they call him. So they're thinking he's not necessarily high ceiling, but you're gonna get a solid player.
[02:08:42] Speaker A: That is indeed what the high floor means.
[02:08:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
[02:08:44] Speaker A: Your ceiling is. May not be high, but the floor
[02:08:47] Speaker C: he's made it is high.
[02:08:49] Speaker B: Yeah.
Which to me, like, honestly, it's 17. Like that's what you pick, right? You pick a guy that's going to be consistent. Consistent.
[02:08:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[02:08:58] Speaker C: Oh, Minnesota sped things up for yo.
[02:09:00] Speaker B: Minnesota. That's what I'm talking.
[02:09:01] Speaker A: Calu Banks.
[02:09:04] Speaker C: Is that who he already knows? Kenny's on like.
No, it's like in the future on his laptop over here.
[02:09:13] Speaker A: I'm just out here. Breaking news, guys.
First, Nico broke the news. Did you hear Nico?
[02:09:19] Speaker C: No.
[02:09:19] Speaker A: Tell us about. He broke news tonight.
Told us that when the Browns.
[02:09:23] Speaker B: I like how Kenny's just recapping our show.
[02:09:24] Speaker A: On our show, Brown Village goes in. He's in talks to put a Nico's in the Brownsville really stadium. He broke that news right here on our show tonight.
[02:09:34] Speaker C: I think that makes a lot of sense because his food is dope. It's really good here.
[02:09:39] Speaker A: I'm saying, like, I. I'm not really from this area further south, so I have not been in this. I didn't know it was here.
[02:09:45] Speaker C: Yeah.
[02:09:46] Speaker A: Thing. You know. But I would come back to.
[02:09:48] Speaker C: Yes. Very.
[02:09:49] Speaker A: Everything was very good. The people.
[02:09:50] Speaker C: I had a. I had their Cuban special. It's like their monthly special. And it was probably the best Cuban sandwich I've ever had. It was.
[02:09:57] Speaker A: It was awesome. He told us he's got spinning meat back there. Gave us the whole etymology of the year.
[02:10:02] Speaker B: That's why it's called a Euro spins.
I forgot we were on podcast for a second.
[02:10:06] Speaker A: Yeah.
[02:10:07] Speaker B: He's tried to actually talk to you.
[02:10:09] Speaker C: And I want to say one more thing about the food is they don't just offer you food. Fries. They. They have this Greek pasta salad that I got as my side and it was banging. Bees knees. It was banging. Yeah, it was.
[02:10:22] Speaker A: They have a lot of like dipping sauces and stuff. I think they do like pita bread and pita chips and like dipping sauces.
[02:10:28] Speaker C: Yeah. I think Jay and Michael had something like that. They had some pita and some other dish that looked really good.
[02:10:33] Speaker A: That would be camera operator four.
[02:10:34] Speaker C: Yeah, camera operator four.
[02:10:38] Speaker B: Before you guys keep talking about the draft, I'm gonna go give away some shirts.
[02:10:43] Speaker A: Okay. Ronnie Jim is going to give away some shirts.
I guess we won't talk to Ronnie Jams anymore. It does look like the Panthers pick is in.
So Bone, what would be your best case scenario if we don't go wide receiver at 24 if we don't go
[02:11:02] Speaker C: wide receiver, honestly wouldn't be opposed to like another top tight end or something like that.
I don't know. Najoku, I just think is out the door at some point very soon.
[02:11:17] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't think.
[02:11:18] Speaker C: They seem to love their. Their two, you know, tight end sets, and I just feel like it's been a staple for the Browns for a long time, I guess. I don't know if Monk. That's anything for Monkin, but having two good tight ends is not a bad thing to have. So I want to stick with the offense.
[02:11:34] Speaker A: I was going to ask, do you think it's possible to go defense here in the first round and add another playmaker?
[02:11:40] Speaker C: I guess so, but, man, our defense is good. We started this show enough depth.
[02:11:47] Speaker A: I mean, we started the show kind of late. Obviously we had some technical difficulties getting things set up because we suck.
So we missed a lot of the pre. Conversation. A lot of things have been going on.
We've seen Todd Monkin now for a couple of months. I mean, obviously I haven't seen him coach a game, so we don't know that. But, like, what's your initial read on this guy? Just seeing how he's interacted with players, interviews, some of the things that he's talking about. What's your gut. What's your gut say right now on draft night?
[02:12:18] Speaker C: My gut is he's. He's a little less reserved than I feel like Stefancy ever was. As far as he talks a little more, which is somewhat refreshing.
[02:12:30] Speaker A: It does feel like he's maybe telling you the truth a little more.
[02:12:32] Speaker C: Yes, yes.
[02:12:34] Speaker A: Coach speak.
[02:12:35] Speaker C: Exactly. And I.
At this point, it's like I feel like he doesn't have to deliver the Browns message yet.
I think he there.
From my perspective, Browns PR is like, just be yourself right now. We don't. We haven't won a game yet. We haven't lost a game.
You don't have any wins. You don't have any losses. It's just like, you know, whether that
[02:12:54] Speaker A: go out there and not lose.
[02:12:55] Speaker C: Yes.
[02:12:56] Speaker A: Don't lose the press conference. You don't have to win it, but don't lose it.
[02:12:59] Speaker C: Yes.
And I don't know, he was straightforward with the whole Miles thing. They're trying to make a big deal about him not being at the three practices or the voluntary stuff. And he's just like, you know, we wish it was here, but it's like he's Miles Garrett too. So, yeah, you guys are making a big deal about this.
[02:13:16] Speaker A: And I think it's all. That's always a tough spot for coaches to be in. Having to answer that question.
[02:13:21] Speaker C: Yeah.
[02:13:22] Speaker A: Because on the service you go, he's a leader on the team. Maybe the best player on the team. Maybe, maybe, maybe at the end of the day he'll be the best player in Browns history.
[02:13:32] Speaker C: Sure.
[02:13:33] Speaker A: And he's not here.
When you feel like it matters or feels like you're bringing along like a lot of young guys and use a lot of mentoring and coaching. Like you need those types of guys in the building, but they're also the, you know, I mean, Miles has been in the top like five players in the league conversation for the last five years. So you know what? Can you really hold him accountable? Can you force him to do those things? Does Miles need those reps?
[02:14:01] Speaker C: Right.
[02:14:02] Speaker A: He doesn't need them. People might benefit from him being around, but I think it's always a tough spot for coaches to be in because what do you want? What do you want him to say? Yeah, you know, you wanted to be like, I'm going to call him the guy that I pay the most money on the team and force him to do something he doesn't want in the off season.
[02:14:17] Speaker C: Exactly. And it's a brand new coach and he's. They ask him all these silly questions and it's just like, I don't know, he has to answer him a certain way at the same point, but also be real and probably do give coach speak a little bit and fall in line with the organization, but. Which is kind of what I said he wasn't doing. But he has to do it in.
[02:14:36] Speaker A: Miles isn't the first veteran leader to not show up to these types.
[02:14:40] Speaker C: Well, he even said that he's like, well, Miles isn't the only player not here. Right. Right now you guys aren't even mentioning any other player that's not here, which I don't think Denzel was there.
Honestly didn't really look into it because I'm not that worried about it because I think he's going to be there when it matters and he's going to be another top defensive end in the NFL this year no matter what. So. Unless barring injury.
[02:15:02] Speaker A: But what about Todd Monken missing the coaches photo?
[02:15:05] Speaker C: That was hilarious.
What was he getting a haircut or something for the photo?
I guess that doesn't speak well to time management, but clock management might be an issue.
[02:15:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[02:15:17] Speaker C: Miles gonna be like, well, coach, like, how can you hold me accountable?
[02:15:20] Speaker A: It's a picture.
[02:15:21] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. You didn't Even schedule your, your haircut on time.
[02:15:26] Speaker A: I don't begrudge a guy a haircut. I think that's fine. My problem with it was it wasn't
[02:15:31] Speaker B: even a good haircut.
[02:15:32] Speaker A: Doesn't have any hair to cut, even a nice haircut.
[02:15:35] Speaker B: He's, his hair is thinning so much.
He literally just seen straight through his hair to his head.
[02:15:40] Speaker A: When they asked him about it, he said something like, I was trying to get a dope haircut for the picture. I was like, sweet. He said, you don't even have a good haircut.
[02:15:48] Speaker B: He's trying to get a sweet haircut.
[02:15:50] Speaker A: If he would have came in and had a sick haircut, I would have been like, I respect it.
[02:15:54] Speaker B: Can you imagine him coming with like, the lines cut into the side of his head and like all kinds of stuff going, going on? He's just like, I got a sweet haircut.
[02:16:00] Speaker C: I was honestly like, is this, how is this even real? Like, I, I guess every other coach, all the other 31 coaches are like, we got a timetable too, man. Like, we got to take this picture,
[02:16:09] Speaker A: but we can't wait for time.
[02:16:10] Speaker C: Like, right. You're one of 32 coaches in the entire world in the NFL and they didn't wait for you.
[02:16:17] Speaker B: I just, I just think it's wild that the way he explained it, he's like, well, they changed the time. I was just trying to get a sweet haircut.
They changed the time and you still chose to go get a haircut.
[02:16:30] Speaker A: You know what's funny about that bone?
[02:16:31] Speaker B: Like, I doubt they changed it five minutes before it was going to happen.
[02:16:34] Speaker A: Now that you mentioned that, because that whole week, the play, the coaches are in town.
[02:16:39] Speaker B: There's a lot of Kai Lemon gone
[02:16:41] Speaker A: to the Eagles, Kyle Lemon and Monroe Freeling just went as well.
There's, there's all kinds of, you know, obviously the coaches are in town. There's a lot of NFL execs in town. There's a lot of media members in town. And that whole week on, like if you turned on, you know, ESPN or NFL Network, like, it's kind of just a playground for those guys. Like, yeah, it's, it's their, almost like their social time together where they're not really working.
It's just kind of very light hearted and fun and to your point, like, they couldn't wait 15 minutes and somebody.
[02:17:16] Speaker B: No, absolutely not.
[02:17:17] Speaker C: He's one of 32 NFL coaches in
[02:17:20] Speaker A: the world, the newest guys in the fraternity, and we can't wait. Nobody can find him. What happened? No one was Even worried. They weren't even like.
[02:17:27] Speaker B: It just seems like there's so much. There's just so much respect there.
[02:17:30] Speaker C: I would think, like, at those guys ages and their profession, it's just like, they're probably not going down a checklist of, like, who's here and who's not. So everybody's got. Is everybody here?
[02:17:39] Speaker A: Like, okay, get together. Let's snap this football mentality. Like, yeah, yeah. You would think, like, maybe Harbaugh, who's worked with them for a long time, might have been like, hey, where's my buddy that just got hired to be one of 32 NFL head coaches?
Not even Harbaugh. I wonder if he's still sour that he came and took the Cleveland job and didn't go New York.
Well, that was. That was a fun deviation from the norm.
[02:18:07] Speaker C: Yeah, we got Steelers on the clock.
[02:18:08] Speaker A: Steelers on the clock in Pittsburgh. The place is probably going to go crazy there, so might not watch TV for a while.
[02:18:15] Speaker C: Yeah.
[02:18:16] Speaker A: Makai Lemon off the board. That he was. He was, I mean, by most accounts rated as the next best receiver to go.
But that puts your guy, Denzel Boston right in the crosshairs then for being maybe the next guy to go.
And we are at pick, what, 20.
[02:18:37] Speaker C: 21. Yeah, 21. We got the Steelers, we got the Chargers, who's after that. And then it's us, I believe.
[02:18:46] Speaker A: Steelers, Chargers, Cowboys.
[02:18:48] Speaker C: Okay. And Cowboys already did Downs. Yeah, they took down.
[02:18:52] Speaker A: So, I mean, if they. If they make a good pick at 23, they could have themselves a really, really nice first round. I'm a. Hey.
[02:19:02] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[02:19:03] Speaker A: I'm sad about missing out on Caleb Downs. That's.
It's a great pick.
[02:19:08] Speaker C: It would have been nice to get an Ohio State guy, just a guaranteed.
Just stud player.
[02:19:14] Speaker A: I just think he. Out of the other guys that were available, like Arabell Reese, really good.
[02:19:19] Speaker C: Yeah.
[02:19:19] Speaker A: Sonny Styles, really good. Caleb Downs offers something to this team that you didn't really have. Right. You have Miles on the front, you have Swish in the middle. Caleb Downs in the. In the secondary would have, like.
[02:19:32] Speaker C: Yeah.
[02:19:32] Speaker A: Just changed all three levels.
[02:19:34] Speaker B: You got another. Different positions, but you would have been able to, like, kind of pass the torch. Denzel Ward's getting up there. It's going to be. It's probably, you know, who knows how many more years he's going to be as dominant as he is. And so it's. It's. Is the leader of the secondary. It's. Denzel Ward can pass the torch over to Caleb Downs.
[02:19:54] Speaker C: Yeah.
[02:19:54] Speaker A: Ronnie James has Joined us after his sabbatical.
[02:19:58] Speaker B: I was running around. Sorry.
[02:19:59] Speaker C: Did people like their free T shirts?
[02:20:00] Speaker E: They did.
[02:20:01] Speaker C: Nice.
[02:20:02] Speaker A: Nice.
Welcome.
So the Steelers pick is in. They're about to pick in Pittsburgh.
[02:20:12] Speaker B: Let's see what the crowd does there. Because they've had to sit in that trash hole all night.
[02:20:19] Speaker A: Smell like trash.
[02:20:21] Speaker C: Pittsburgh. What a dump.
[02:20:23] Speaker A: Huge dump.
[02:20:24] Speaker B: There's nothing good about Pittsburgh except for the brownsbackers that are there.
[02:20:28] Speaker A: Seriously. I traveled to Pittsburgh one time, like, for pleasure.
Pleasure?
[02:20:33] Speaker B: What does that mean?
[02:20:34] Speaker C: The roads just go everywhere. You don't know where they're going.
[02:20:37] Speaker A: And it's just one place. I have no. And it wasn't even. Like, I tried to go with an open mind. Obviously, I hate Pittsburgh, but, like, who doesn't? I tried to go think because I know a lot of people that have traveled. They'll go. A lot of people like to go to the ballpark over there. They have a really nice stadium.
A lot of people like the rivers and all that. Like, I know a lot of people that go to that area regularly. So I tried to be open about it, but it just was not a place that I would go back to. I have, like. I have zero desire to go back there. And there's not a lot of places that I've been to that I just really.
[02:21:07] Speaker B: Cincinnati.
[02:21:07] Speaker E: That.
[02:21:07] Speaker A: In New York City. Oh, in Cincinnati, for sure. Cincinnati is the worst. Because that's in Kentucky.
[02:21:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[02:21:13] Speaker A: New York City, too. Just because.
[02:21:14] Speaker B: It's just.
[02:21:14] Speaker A: I. Like, at once was enough for me. Like, I experienced Manhattan and the city and the whole thing.
It's just. It's just really busy. A lot of people. Too much smells bad.
You can't drive there. It takes an hour or two to get anywhere.
So you have to walk, and I hate walking.
[02:21:32] Speaker B: They're playing your song.
[02:21:38] Speaker A: Oh, it sticks.
[02:21:38] Speaker D: Nice.
[02:21:39] Speaker A: Good job. I was like, I have my headphones on. I can't really hear.
But that makes sense because they play.
[02:21:44] Speaker B: We grew up on.
[02:21:45] Speaker A: They play Renegade Stadium.
[02:21:47] Speaker C: This is the Steelers first pick, right?
[02:21:49] Speaker D: They.
[02:21:49] Speaker C: They have one.
[02:21:49] Speaker A: Yeah, that's correct.
That's correct. Fact check bone.
[02:21:54] Speaker B: I do want to talk about something here. Now that the Steelers are on the clock and they're about to make your pick here.
Will Howard. I don't know if you guys have been following this, but basically they said he's, like, stepping up in the off
[02:22:03] Speaker A: season so far, and he's.
[02:22:05] Speaker B: He's the guy.
[02:22:06] Speaker C: I. I believe it.
[02:22:07] Speaker B: They said that he's carrying himself like a QB one. All the veterans are backing him. They're like, this guy is legit.
[02:22:14] Speaker A: It's easy to say that, though, in April. Look, I'm not. I'm not against Will. Like, I am a huge Will Howard fan, and I think he'll be good when he gets the chance to be a starter. But it's really easy to say that
[02:22:27] Speaker B: before he's played any other football.
[02:22:28] Speaker A: Really well, just to say that in April, because it's minicamp, right? We were just talking about this bone and I. About Miles not being at any of the minicamp stuff.
[02:22:35] Speaker B: I just think I, like, you guys probably talk about this. Everybody makes a big deal about it. Here it is, like, if.
[02:22:39] Speaker A: Well, right.
[02:22:40] Speaker B: Doesn't mean.
[02:22:40] Speaker A: Because the. The idea is, like, you've never been there in minicamp and, like, helping young guys, mentoring guys, and, like, everybody getting better. Like, it's a kumbaya team thing. So I think it's easy to back Miles.
[02:22:50] Speaker B: They've been in, like, five years.
[02:22:51] Speaker A: It's. It's easy to back a Will Howard in April and go, well, this guy's showing up every day. This guy's doing all the right things.
But when Aaron Rodgers steps back into that building in August, right?
You go, here's a Hall of Famer. We're standing next to a Hall of Famer.
[02:23:08] Speaker B: This is what I'll tell you.
[02:23:09] Speaker C: Aaron Rodgers probably put him up to this.
[02:23:14] Speaker A: Aaron Rodgers is playing the long game. It's all a conspiracy.
[02:23:18] Speaker B: Miles Garrett, like I said, hadn't been at those things in, like, five years. He just won defense player of the year again. So thank you.
[02:23:26] Speaker A: Well, and that's what you're just talking about is, like, you know, Miles doesn't need those practices.
They're not. They're not four, Miles.
Miles is consistently voted by his peers
[02:23:37] Speaker B: most dominant player in the NFL, like,
[02:23:38] Speaker A: for the last at least five years. Between one and five.
[02:23:41] Speaker F: Yeah.
[02:23:43] Speaker A: Is that the bus?
[02:23:44] Speaker B: Yeah, it is.
[02:23:44] Speaker C: I mean, he's back.
[02:23:45] Speaker A: Boy, the bus is in town. We're at the bus stop.
Everybody honk your horns on the bus. Go.
[02:24:00] Speaker B: Did you stop talking?
[02:24:01] Speaker A: Way too long bus.
[02:24:03] Speaker C: This whole intro for their pick has been forever.
[02:24:05] Speaker A: It's a long bus ride.
[02:24:06] Speaker C: They just overtook the Detroit Lions for the longest pick in the first round.
[02:24:09] Speaker A: I feel like he's never changed sizes.
[02:24:13] Speaker B: I've never thought of it that way.
[02:24:14] Speaker A: A lot of guys, like, either get skinny after they play or they get real fat. He says, always exact same.
[02:24:19] Speaker B: I keep working out and I look like this.
I don't change.
[02:24:22] Speaker C: You're not sure, you offensive tackle.
[02:24:26] Speaker A: It's so funny. Like being here in real time now, watching this transpire. Because all of these names we've all been talking about for like a week. Like, I don't know, you're not like any of these guys could go in the. At six for the Browns.
[02:24:38] Speaker F: 24.
[02:24:40] Speaker B: Yeah, this was. This was one of those guys that they talked about taking on the tail end at 24.
[02:24:45] Speaker A: Big offensive line draft. This is a lot of.
[02:24:48] Speaker F: Lot of.
[02:24:49] Speaker B: They said it was super deep.
[02:24:50] Speaker A: A lot of frontline guys.
[02:24:56] Speaker B: We can finally see us on the screen.
[02:25:00] Speaker A: What's really interesting, Ronnie Jams, you said this really deep at offensive line. It's very interesting because going back to Andrew Barry, looking at everything as a commodity and a resource, a lot of his draft, like strategy, at least what he told the media on. On his pressure was about so like supply and demand. And so it's interesting that they. Interesting that we go a position that had ample supply.
[02:25:26] Speaker B: It's weird.
[02:25:27] Speaker A: And used a premium pick on it.
[02:25:28] Speaker B: Yeah, it is weird, though, because you can look at it both ways. I mean, you talked about it earlier is you almost look like a genius on one hand because they don't ever
[02:25:38] Speaker A: look like a genius.
[02:25:39] Speaker B: Well, I'm just like, on one hand, you traded back and you still got the best. Like your guy attack, like that was their guy.
[02:25:47] Speaker C: Because Lyman picked. Right.
[02:25:49] Speaker B: Right. So you get your guy still after trading back.
But then on the other hand, I'm with you. I mean, like, he talks about it like you gotta. Gotta maximize value or whatever that phrase was that I can't think of right now. That was in his presser. And this seems to be the opposite where you're saying there's like a 14 other offensive lineman I could have picked from in the first round.
That's an exaggeration, but you know what I'm saying.
[02:26:13] Speaker A: Yeah.
[02:26:15] Speaker B: And I mean, I'm sure there's at least a few more still available that are. That are top 30.
[02:26:21] Speaker A: So how many picks have there been? 21.
Seven offensive linemen. A third of the first round has been offensive line.
[02:26:30] Speaker B: And think about this. Not a single one went until number nine.
[02:26:33] Speaker A: And not a single one went till nine. Yeah, so that's a. That's a lot of offensive linemen in
[02:26:39] Speaker B: what, 10 in 12 picks. Seven out of the last 12 picks.
[02:26:43] Speaker A: That's wild.
[02:26:47] Speaker B: I bet. I bet everybody in Pittsburgh is so turned down right now, though. They're like, we waited here and partied all night for an offensive lineman.
[02:26:57] Speaker C: His very unevention.
[02:26:59] Speaker A: You go to the bar. New shots.
[02:27:00] Speaker B: No, I should have maybe Later, I drove Kenny Thunder. So no long drive home. Yeah.
[02:27:10] Speaker A: If.
If Aaron Rodgers is going to play again, though, you do have to protect him.
He can't get hit.
[02:27:18] Speaker B: It doesn't matter who's playing quarterback. You probably got to protect.
[02:27:20] Speaker A: He's older than King Tut.
[02:27:21] Speaker C: He's gonna be slower than ever this year.
[02:27:24] Speaker A: Slower and older than anyone.
[02:27:25] Speaker B: I don't know, than everyone. Tom Brady runs faster now, and he did at the combine.
[02:27:30] Speaker C: Well, that's impressive.
[02:27:31] Speaker A: Yeah, that's true.
[02:27:32] Speaker C: How's he been doing?
[02:27:34] Speaker A: But I'll bet if he got hit today, it would hurt a lot worse than when he got hit when he was 20.
[02:27:39] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. At what point do you become Tom Brady where you're just like, I do every possible thing I can to be in the most peak physical shape ever?
[02:27:49] Speaker A: I don't even know how to answer that question. At what point do you become.
[02:27:51] Speaker C: You gotta have a lot of money.
[02:27:52] Speaker B: Wait, wait. No, no, hang on. Listen, let me finish. You become that Tom Brady and not the Tom Brady. When he came in the draft, he was like, I'm just. I'm just like, chubby guy.
[02:28:01] Speaker A: The point at which you married Gisele Bunde.
[02:28:04] Speaker B: Fair.
[02:28:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[02:28:04] Speaker B: You got to know when your wife's
[02:28:06] Speaker A: a model, you become one.
[02:28:09] Speaker B: Get lots of plastic surgery.
That's what Tom Brady did anyways.
[02:28:16] Speaker A: That's why you're such a girl. You married one.
You are one.
[02:28:20] Speaker B: There, that explains a lot that came.
[02:28:24] Speaker A: There he is. Oh, boy. Boys, we're getting close to pick number two. Look, we're way.
We're way behind schedule. The draft is way ahead of schedule. I thought it would be closer to like 11 o' clock before the Browns made their second pick.
[02:28:36] Speaker B: I agree. I'm excited. We get out of here in a reasonable hour.
[02:28:38] Speaker A: We can get out of here.
[02:28:40] Speaker B: I just hope to God the Browns don't go for another offensive lineman just simply because I want some excitement, something to cheer about. Yeah, if we get another offensive lineman, I'm just going to be like, why'd we do a live show?
[02:28:56] Speaker A: Any chance of Garrett Nessmeyer or Carson Beck at 24? Oh, God, I hope they started Drew all our pick.
[02:29:03] Speaker C: I don't think so.
[02:29:04] Speaker B: Drew. I don't think Drew Allers. I don't even think Carson Beck would
[02:29:06] Speaker A: go in the first round.
[02:29:07] Speaker B: They're both like, what are they like? Third round projection, fourth number.
[02:29:10] Speaker A: Oh, I'm not saying they should go in the first round. I'm saying sound.
[02:29:14] Speaker F: Surprise.
[02:29:14] Speaker B: Yes, there is a chance.
[02:29:16] Speaker C: There's always a chance.
But they could always trade back into the second round, their extra draft capital.
[02:29:24] Speaker B: All of these receivers that we talked about are still available.
Like all of them.
[02:29:29] Speaker A: I like how we spent days preparing for this show and we built out that whole everything and we basically just spent the last hour and a half watching Bone Drink Beers.
[02:29:39] Speaker C: You know what? I did zero prep work.
[02:29:44] Speaker B: I think once we got to the point where we had our technical difficulties before the show, we were off schedule. It just. Everything went out the window.
[02:29:50] Speaker A: Everything went out the window because it wasn't.
[02:29:51] Speaker B: Because it wasn't like we could catch up.
[02:29:53] Speaker F: We weren't.
[02:29:53] Speaker B: We weren't 15 minutes off schedule.
[02:29:55] Speaker C: We were.
[02:29:55] Speaker B: We were almost an hour.
[02:29:56] Speaker A: When you're loud, anything can happen.
[02:29:59] Speaker B: So we probably should have, just before we started, trimmed like half the show.
[02:30:03] Speaker A: We ended up trimming 80 of the shooting.
Actually more than that. Yeah.
[02:30:07] Speaker B: We had a lot of fun things to talk about.
[02:30:09] Speaker A: Even. Even Angry Bobby's interview we couldn't do because we couldn't even hear him. So, yeah, even that got clipped. Yep.
[02:30:15] Speaker B: Sorry, Angry Bobby.
[02:30:16] Speaker A: So we. I promised that we did have a really cool show planned for you. We were going to cover a lot of things and talk about it.
[02:30:21] Speaker B: We also. We also don't have a light.
[02:30:23] Speaker A: And then we ended up at a campfire.
[02:30:25] Speaker B: Yeah, there's a lot of things you're watching at home. I'm breaking. We're really breaking the fourth wall here.
[02:30:31] Speaker C: The helmet get moved? Did you guys move that?
[02:30:33] Speaker B: Nah.
[02:30:33] Speaker A: Freaking time. Green routine.
[02:30:35] Speaker C: Okay.
[02:30:38] Speaker B: He's right behind us.
[02:30:39] Speaker C: Yeah, that was a nice guy.
[02:30:43] Speaker B: Looks even cooler now because it's like an outline of the helmet.
[02:30:45] Speaker A: I thought he said Tom was looking cooler. I was like, what are you, sexy?
[02:30:48] Speaker C: Let's even bring up Facebook, Tom. Or not Facebook, but MySpace time.
[02:30:52] Speaker A: Oh, MySpace time. Even better. What was that? What's his last name?
[02:30:54] Speaker B: Tom.
[02:30:55] Speaker A: Tom.
[02:30:55] Speaker B: Tom Times.
[02:30:56] Speaker C: But maybe he kind of looks like.
[02:30:58] Speaker A: Maybe that's what I was thinking, that maybe that's what happened to Tom from MySpace.
[02:31:01] Speaker C: Okay.
[02:31:02] Speaker A: Yep.
[02:31:03] Speaker C: Moved to Northeast Ohio.
[02:31:05] Speaker B: Started in power sports. Yeah.
[02:31:12] Speaker A: Guys, the Browns pick next. Not next, but after the video.
You know, if I still on the
[02:31:20] Speaker B: clock, you know, it's crazy. So, like coming into the draft, all these scenarios, we had these, these crazy trade down scenarios that they talked about. We had all these different things with. With. Who are they going to like at the end of the day.
This is a pretty Browns draft so far. Like, we traded back, which we all kind of. Me and Kenny have been saying this for a couple days now. Like, it became increasingly clear that they were definitely going to trade back.
[02:31:44] Speaker C: The teams were not really in talks, though, as being somebody that they were partnering with, were they?
[02:31:49] Speaker A: Hey, I saw it part somewhere, like once or twice, but it was not getting. It was not getting the same traction that, like the jets trade or the Cowboys trade was.
[02:31:58] Speaker B: I'll tell you this. It's in my show notes.
[02:32:00] Speaker D: Is there really?
[02:32:00] Speaker B: It is in the show notes. Yeah, it is in the show notes.
[02:32:02] Speaker A: And it was in.
There was one other team, too, maybe San Francisco was the other.
[02:32:09] Speaker B: Specifically, we called the Dolphins.
[02:32:10] Speaker A: Was the other the Dolphins. That's right.
[02:32:11] Speaker B: It was the Chiefs or the Dolphins squeeze deal.
And basically it was the chiefs picking at nine. Dolphins are at 11. They may want to jump up for an elite edge rusher like Arvell Reese or David Bailey if they fell, which neither of them fell that far, but that's what happened. And who'd the Chiefs take?
[02:32:31] Speaker C: It's a corner.
I think that's the only cornerback.
[02:32:36] Speaker B: So we. We had the position wrong, but that's what happened. Chiefs saw somebody that they felt they needed.
[02:32:43] Speaker A: He's the only defensive back taken.
[02:32:45] Speaker C: It's kind of crazy.
[02:32:46] Speaker B: No, the Caleb downs.
[02:32:47] Speaker A: Well, Caleb downs.
[02:32:48] Speaker B: Yeah, that doesn't count. Only corner taken.
[02:32:50] Speaker A: Doesn't count because we didn't get him.
[02:32:52] Speaker B: Yeah, only corner taken.
[02:32:53] Speaker A: That's what I mean.
[02:32:54] Speaker B: Yeah, I. I know what you mean.
[02:32:55] Speaker A: Yeah.
Yeah.
Ty Simpson at 13 is still a little bit surprising to me.
[02:33:00] Speaker C: Yeah.
[02:33:01] Speaker A: It just feels early. I. I mean, it makes sense for. For la, but feels early.
[02:33:07] Speaker C: Yeah.
[02:33:11] Speaker B: I don't know.
[02:33:12] Speaker A: Like, this maybe has been one of the more boring drafts, I think, in years.
[02:33:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Not a lot of big things.
[02:33:16] Speaker A: I mean, we knew Fernando was going number one.
[02:33:20] Speaker D: Yeah.
[02:33:21] Speaker A: A little surprise at three with Jeremiah Love going. I think most people had a Pennsylvania.
[02:33:24] Speaker B: The biggest surprise was Carnell Tate going at 4.
[02:33:27] Speaker A: Carnell Tate going 4 is a bit of a surprise. Arvel Reese, I think, falling to five. Maybe people had it going earlier, but not a ton of surprises after that. You know, the Buckeyes went.
[02:33:39] Speaker B: Guys, is there any chance they go Caleb Lomo and they literally pick Utah?
[02:33:45] Speaker C: I think there's a chance.
[02:33:46] Speaker A: I'm in. I'm in.
What are you.
[02:33:49] Speaker B: Are Utah.
[02:33:50] Speaker A: We're the Cleveland.
[02:33:51] Speaker C: Just going big boys.
[02:33:52] Speaker A: The Cleveland Utes.
[02:33:53] Speaker B: You've. You've missed all that every time we talked about you. Eventually you put enough big asses up
[02:33:57] Speaker A: there, you get a rap video.
[02:33:59] Speaker C: Yeah.
[02:33:59] Speaker B: You have an offensive line or.
[02:34:00] Speaker C: Yeah, it's very true. Especially with Shador. You get enough big passes, he puts out his own rat.
[02:34:06] Speaker A: Yeah. He's saying Shador is a big
[02:34:12] Speaker B: Cowboys. Take.
Malachi Lawrence. Well, our edge, Kenny. Talk about edge again. I know you love that term.
[02:34:26] Speaker A: We were just. I mean, we were just talking about, like, when did that become a position?
[02:34:31] Speaker C: Yeah. When did that change?
[02:34:32] Speaker A: You're either a defensive end or you're an outside linebacker.
[02:34:34] Speaker C: Like edge.
[02:34:35] Speaker A: You know, when I hear edge, I just think of, like, what are you?
[02:34:39] Speaker B: A.
[02:34:40] Speaker A: Literally, just a pass.
[02:34:42] Speaker B: I see. Clear.
[02:34:43] Speaker A: He's the cash rush specialist. You only play.
[02:34:46] Speaker B: Nobody got that joke. Except for apparently you said, when I hear edge, all I think of.
[02:34:52] Speaker A: I get it. Adam Copeland. He's edged. That's his song on this day. I get it. It wasn't funny. I remember.
[02:34:59] Speaker B: Remember when he was a vampire?
[02:35:01] Speaker A: He was a vampire. Him, Christian and Gangrel. Those were good times. Blood pass for everyone.
[02:35:08] Speaker C: Boston. He's on the board still.
[02:35:10] Speaker B: I know. I'm going. Come on.
[02:35:12] Speaker A: Just bring us back on Boston.
[02:35:14] Speaker B: Boston.
[02:35:15] Speaker C: Does Andrew Berry like Denzel? Boston.
[02:35:19] Speaker A: I don't think so.
[02:35:20] Speaker C: We'll see. Probably not.
[02:35:22] Speaker B: What do we always say about Kevin Spansky? He doesn't have the stones.
No stones.
That's Andrew Barry. No stones.
[02:35:31] Speaker D: Yeah.
[02:35:31] Speaker A: Caleb Lomu is probably the next offensive lineman.
[02:35:36] Speaker B: Yep.
[02:35:37] Speaker A: So I could see him going. That would be something.
Take all the Utonians or whatever they're called.
[02:35:43] Speaker B: We told him, take Buckeyes and you can't get fired. He's like, how about I take Utah?
[02:35:48] Speaker C: What about you, John?
[02:35:50] Speaker A: What about you?
[02:35:51] Speaker B: I know what you're thinking. Powerhouse football, guys.
[02:35:54] Speaker A: I do know what you were thinking. Who's the top rated fullback in this draft class? You know who it is.
There's not one.
[02:36:01] Speaker B: There's no.
[02:36:02] Speaker C: There's not one.
[02:36:02] Speaker A: Not a single full pack that's rejected
[02:36:04] Speaker B: to be drafted as we finally reach that point exist.
[02:36:10] Speaker A: The pick is in the other Notre Dame running back to Darian Pierce. Price.
Well, at least we picked and we didn't trade it away. I'll take it.
[02:36:19] Speaker B: Are you sure?
Tackle nice. The Browns are gonna get their pick on a commercial.
That's the first round. They would. They would have picked during a commercial on the first round, would they?
It's the Browns. They probably.
[02:36:43] Speaker A: Guys, Yo. I think there's a high chief. They picked the Utah lineman.
[02:36:47] Speaker C: You're going with the lineman?
[02:36:48] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm going.
[02:36:49] Speaker B: I'm going. Boston.
[02:36:51] Speaker A: Caleb Lomu.
Then you would have just great symmetry on your line. You'd have four letter last names on each.
[02:37:01] Speaker C: Is he another tackle or. He's an inside guy.
[02:37:04] Speaker A: He's a tackle.
[02:37:05] Speaker C: Okay.
[02:37:05] Speaker B: Four letter last names on each side.
[02:37:09] Speaker C: I mean, we.
[02:37:10] Speaker A: It's important. That might be the key. That's the one thing Angie Barry has.
[02:37:13] Speaker B: We haven't had symmetries.
[02:37:14] Speaker C: How many did we bring in in free agency? It was like four, right?
[02:37:17] Speaker A: A lot. Yeah, yeah.
[02:37:18] Speaker E: Couple.
[02:37:19] Speaker C: Okay.
[02:37:19] Speaker A: At least two big ones.
[02:37:20] Speaker C: Two big. Two big names than another guy.
[02:37:22] Speaker A: Maybe it was at least because.
[02:37:25] Speaker B: Zion Jenkins. Johnson. Zion Johnson.
[02:37:30] Speaker A: Elton Jenkins.
[02:37:31] Speaker B: Titus Howard.
[02:37:32] Speaker C: Yeah, Titus Howard.
[02:37:33] Speaker A: Titus Howard here with the Texans. So.
[02:37:34] Speaker B: And then the trade. The trade.
[02:37:37] Speaker A: You get the Utah guy, the Loos and the Fanos, and you have a whole line now.
[02:37:42] Speaker C: I got six new lines.
[02:37:43] Speaker B: Oh, wait, I'll tell you. Howard was a trade. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[02:37:45] Speaker A: That's a lot of linemen.
[02:37:46] Speaker C: Texas.
[02:37:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[02:37:47] Speaker B: You resigned Tevin Jenkins, too?
[02:37:50] Speaker A: Yeah. Great.
[02:37:51] Speaker C: Yeah. Let's get Boston. Let's get a receiver.
[02:37:55] Speaker B: You know how many receivers we've gotten?
[02:37:57] Speaker A: I.
One I would like. I like the idea.
There's almost been no talk of him going to Cleveland, so.
[02:38:05] Speaker F: Who?
[02:38:06] Speaker B: Boston?
[02:38:07] Speaker E: Not.
[02:38:07] Speaker A: Not at the same level that I've heard anyone else.
[02:38:10] Speaker D: Yeah.
[02:38:10] Speaker B: Really, Where I've heard Boston's name is. Actually, a lot of the local radio is the only ones talking about it because they're like.
[02:38:16] Speaker A: But I think that's just because they like his size. I don't know that.
[02:38:19] Speaker C: That.
[02:38:19] Speaker A: That's coming from inside.
[02:38:20] Speaker B: Maria, we all know that we don't draft big receivers and we want one real bad.
[02:38:28] Speaker A: Heard a lot about KC Concep.
[02:38:32] Speaker C: I heard his name a lot on the radio today. He's a little guy, though, right?
[02:38:35] Speaker A: Who would you say he's six foot?
[02:38:36] Speaker C: Six foot?
[02:38:37] Speaker B: I have been five' eleven.
[02:38:38] Speaker A: He's probably five' eleven, but he probably, you know, combine measured in his cleats at six foot.
[02:38:49] Speaker B: What? What? Of course it would go to the commercial field grounds.
[02:38:53] Speaker C: I mean, there's a lot of commercials right now.
[02:38:56] Speaker B: It's been like eight minutes.
[02:39:04] Speaker A: Maybe they could go. Kaden McDonald.
[02:39:06] Speaker C: Yeah. He's an. Oh, yeah. First round projection.
Another Buckeye.
[02:39:12] Speaker A: I wouldn't hate that pick.
[02:39:13] Speaker C: I wouldn't either.
[02:39:15] Speaker A: I mean, that's this pretty steady engine of big guys to fill up the middle between him and Mason Graham.
[02:39:22] Speaker C: Now, our D line would be so stacked if you added him.
[02:39:29] Speaker B: I just don't want them to go offensive lineman again.
But I think we're going to be just stacked full of utes here in a second.
[02:39:37] Speaker A: I'm all in on the utes. Utes and symmetry.
Two Utes, right?
[02:39:44] Speaker C: Oh, this is the Travis Hunter return the 24th overall pick.
[02:39:48] Speaker A: Let's get a guy that goes both ways.
Plays both ways.
[02:39:53] Speaker C: Plays both ways. Of course we all know what you meant.
[02:39:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm sure we do know.
[02:39:58] Speaker C: Nobody went there.
[02:40:01] Speaker B: Kenny always goes there,
[02:40:06] Speaker A: go nowhere.
I was clarifying that I didn't go.
[02:40:15] Speaker B: Who is it?
Casey Conception.
[02:40:22] Speaker A: Oh boy.
[02:40:24] Speaker B: Kenny. That you caught it.
[02:40:27] Speaker C: Playmaker.
[02:40:27] Speaker A: There was. There was assuming much smoke.
[02:40:31] Speaker C: Heard of his name a lot on the radio today.
[02:40:33] Speaker A: Yeah. There was so much smoke and everyone
[02:40:35] Speaker C: I heard talk about it was like I do not want them to get him.
[02:40:39] Speaker B: All right. So 511, 1986 foot. According to Kenny. Top metric 441 in the 40.
He's listed as a gadget style playmaker with elite. Elite suddenness.
[02:40:51] Speaker A: An elite yak.
[02:40:53] Speaker C: The Tyreek.
[02:40:54] Speaker A: The problem is and why so many people. Why this was controversial. The problem was he can't catch the football.
[02:41:02] Speaker C: He has really bad hands.
[02:41:03] Speaker B: Perfect.
[02:41:04] Speaker A: So that sounds like a perfect Andrew Barry drafting wide receiver. Right. Because he's really. He's. He's got good speed.
[02:41:10] Speaker C: Fastest guy in the draft. Swartz.
[02:41:12] Speaker A: He's got great playmaking ability but he can't catch the football.
[02:41:18] Speaker C: Great.
Look, is he gonna be a punt returner?
[02:41:21] Speaker A: Hopefully we need to return those.
[02:41:24] Speaker C: That could be a part of why they, why they picked them.
I don't think we've had a punt returner since Andrew Berry's been gm.
[02:41:30] Speaker A: No.
[02:41:31] Speaker B: Guys, his, his, his career drop rate depending on which source you look at six and a half to nine percent.
[02:41:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[02:41:42] Speaker C: It's pretty high. Right?
[02:41:43] Speaker B: That's really.
[02:41:43] Speaker C: Yeah.
[02:41:45] Speaker A: Yes.
Good route runner. Very versatile player. Guys, I, I think this is going to be,
[02:41:56] Speaker B: this is a pick 19 career drops.
[02:41:58] Speaker A: I don't think is going to be super popular.
[02:42:02] Speaker C: Could be sneaky. Good.
[02:42:04] Speaker A: Because of the drop rate.
I don't hate this pick. Right. This team is devoid of playmakers.
[02:42:11] Speaker D: Yeah.
[02:42:11] Speaker A: And I think what if you read about the inconsistency with the drops.
What a lot of people.
It's not a skill level thing. It's lack of concentration.
So at the pro level as you refine your, your talent, your skills, maybe that's something that if Todd Monken is worth a damn.
[02:42:32] Speaker C: Yeah.
[02:42:32] Speaker A: Can fix.
And then you have a tremendous playmaker. This team needs guys that can make things happen and you have kind of this. The starting point, the foundation. With Quinn Sean and with Dylan Sampson having a receiver that can do a number of things, play out of the slot, maybe maybe return kicks. Like I think this is a, this is a good move. Look we just went through a lot of the guys that are left on the board. You had the Utes.
Yeah, the. You know, the. The defensive tackle from Ohio State. There weren't a lot of other, like, really sexy names out there right now. Denzel Boston, we talked about because of his size.
But this is a guy that I think can do a lot for the Browns.
[02:43:16] Speaker B: Yeah, I would have rather had Boston.
Yeah.
[02:43:22] Speaker F: Yep.
[02:43:23] Speaker C: Yeah.
[02:43:25] Speaker B: Tom's okay with it.
[02:43:26] Speaker A: Tom from MySpace. It was good to see you.
[02:43:31] Speaker C: Sorry, go ahead.
[02:43:32] Speaker B: I was just gonna say I'm gonna read part of his letter to coaches here. He wrote a long letter.
[02:43:37] Speaker A: He did write a long letter.
That's the kind of thing that would swing. Andrew Perry, too.
[02:43:43] Speaker B: Yeah, among other things. He explained a lot of things. There's been some. Some question marks about his maturity, whatever else, like, all kinds of stuff. So he did. He wrote this long letter in the Players Tribune addressing all that.
[02:43:55] Speaker C: It's.
[02:43:55] Speaker F: It's.
[02:43:56] Speaker B: It's addressed to NFL GMs. And I'll just read the first couple paragraphs here through the part that's the most important.
By now, you've probably heard that I st. That I stutter. Everyone has. And look, I get it. It's a good story. I'm not mad at it, and I appreciate the love, but every time I've sat down for an interview, that's where we start and that's where we end. The stutter. The stutter, the stutter. My stutter is part of who I am, but it's not all of who I am. So I figured, since I've got the pen this time. Let me tell you more. Tell you the more complete story. Here's who I also am. I'm the best receiver in this draft, period. I run crisp routes. I catch everything thrown anywhere near me. I work my tail off every practice, every drill. I get in and out of my breaks fast, and I will outwork anybody you put in of front.
[02:44:39] Speaker D: Front of him.
[02:44:40] Speaker B: So, I mean, he literally, he. He just put everyone on notice and said, I'm the guy, so if you want a receiver in this draft, you need to go get me.
[02:44:48] Speaker C: He typed it out, put it on the pen and paper there. So.
[02:44:51] Speaker B: Yep. So I. I don't know it. It to me, like, you can go both ways on this. I know some people love this, some people hate this, but to be an NFL wide receiver, you've got to have confidence.
But I'll say the fact that he put it out there, he knew there was some. Some claims that were. That were floating around and he didn't like him and he addressed them and you know, faced them head on and, and, and said what he had to say. Like, I don't know, I, I like it. I hope he's right.
He is 511 at 190 some pounds.
[02:45:24] Speaker C: So I mean guys do it at receiver who are smaller, smaller bodies.
I mean it happens all the time.
[02:45:33] Speaker A: You know what I took away from that letter?
[02:45:36] Speaker F: What?
[02:45:38] Speaker A: The guy has a problem with drops and he says I catch anything thrown.
[02:45:42] Speaker B: Near got that, huh?
[02:45:44] Speaker A: Poor Marcel Reed, his quarterback at Texas A and M. Like I feel like that's a dig directly at that guy. You think I got problems with the drops. This guy can't put the ball on me. Yeah, that's why I can't catch it.
[02:45:55] Speaker B: Read between the lines.
Either that or just a complete lack of self awareness.
Like I catch everything. What are you talking about? I didn't drive anything.
[02:46:05] Speaker A: He doesn't.
[02:46:06] Speaker C: Confidence, it's that confidence.
[02:46:07] Speaker A: He has a problem with drops.
[02:46:08] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[02:46:12] Speaker C: That's what you need is a short term memory at that position.
[02:46:14] Speaker B: So Bone, I, I, you know, we're gonna close this out here just because we gotta get rolling. It's, it's almost 11. Well, it's 10:30, but we're gonna get packed up, we're gonna get going. I think I don't even really have to ask you your opinion. I think this is exactly how you wanted the draft to go.
[02:46:30] Speaker C: Yeah, I guess I said if we get a re alignment receiver or receiver, lineman in that order, I'd be, think about it, I'd be happy. But I'm not really all that happy. But at the same point I understand that we don't know yet. Just like as is last year. We don't know. Quinshawn was exciting last year. Right.
I don't think we have that this year. But in a year's time maybe we'll be saying what a great draft.
[02:46:53] Speaker A: So you know what else we don't, we don't know. You know what else I find interesting is Andrew Barry went out of his way to talk about not drafting positions of need. That's exactly what we did tonight. We went exactly what we did. Offensive line, wide receiver, the two probably
[02:47:09] Speaker B: most needed positions, like, yeah, glaring.
[02:47:14] Speaker A: I mean, look, I can't, I can't, I can't say like this was a bad draft,
[02:47:23] Speaker D: guys.
[02:47:23] Speaker B: I'm gonna say there's another white, white defensive back in the NFL.
[02:47:28] Speaker C: First rounder.
[02:47:29] Speaker A: Yeah, things, look, I'll say this changing things could have went Way worse.
[02:47:33] Speaker B: Oh, it could have been.
[02:47:35] Speaker A: It could have been better. Yeah, it could have been better.
[02:47:37] Speaker B: Agreed. I'm not mad at this, but this isn't a.
[02:47:40] Speaker A: This isn't a problematic draft. I don't. So far, I don't think any of us are looking at Spencer Fano in the same way that we would look at Jed Wills if he. Let's say he doesn't pan out.
It's draft night, and I don't think any one of us is looking at this. A guy that was rated as maybe the top tackle coming out.
[02:47:57] Speaker C: Yeah.
[02:47:58] Speaker A: And was like, that's a gamble. He was the first offensive lineman off the board.
So, like, I can't. Even if he fails, I can't look at this and go like, Andrew Berry missed this and this should have been glaring. Yeah.
Concepcion is a playmaker. We'll see if he can catch the ball if he does. Could be really good for the Browns.
[02:48:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[02:48:21] Speaker A: So this draft is not a failure on draft night.
[02:48:24] Speaker B: Nope.
[02:48:26] Speaker A: I will tell. But I think this was a very safe draft for Andrew Berry. I think you pick positions of needs. I think Jimmy might have told him, hey, I don't care what your plan is. We have some needs on this team and we continue to not address the needs.
We'll continue to not address you.
[02:48:44] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
[02:48:46] Speaker A: Don't try and out. Think everyone here just do. Do the smart thing. Do the safe thing.
[02:48:50] Speaker B: My only takeaway here, I would have. I would have reversed them, but once those two receivers were gone, this is kind of the route yet, so.
[02:48:56] Speaker A: Well, only Kevin Stefanski runs reverses.
[02:48:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
Multiple a game.
So with that, let me remind everybody to call the burger sportscast hot take. Hotline.
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That's it because draft is over for the Browns. Well, the first round anyways. At least right now. So Bone, what do you think?
[02:51:28] Speaker C: I think it's time to go to bed and clean up, get home. So bone up a deep I like that thought.
[02:51:33] Speaker A: Good draft tonight, boys.
Thanks.
[02:51:36] Speaker B: Well done. Well done in the war room.
[02:51:37] Speaker A: Thanks to the North Royalton Brownsbackers for having us out. Thanks to Nico and Nico's staff. Everyone was tremendous.
[02:51:44] Speaker B: Great.
[02:51:45] Speaker A: We appreciate all the help tonight. Everything was awesome. The food was great.
Had a good night with you boys. I. I kind of like bus. I think this is a good like draft night.
[02:51:54] Speaker B: We learned a lot of things. Next year's draft party is gonna be way better.
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[02:52:03] Speaker B: And only you can prevent river fires
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Bye, Cleveland.
[02:52:11] Speaker B: Good night, Cleveland.
[02:52:12] Speaker C: Good night,
[02:52:20] Speaker A: Sam.
