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[00:01:10] Speaker B: It's time time for the Burning River Sportscast.
So the Cleveland Browns finally won a football game. Great.
Don't get me wrong, we waited 300 days for this. If I had a victory fridge, I'd have busted it open. It was a very exciting five minutes of football and I certainly don't aim to diminish a win.
But I also can't ignore what I saw on Sunday, which was an offensive line that consistently broke down around my quarterback and struggled to establish the run. Receivers who couldn't get open and were unable to make plays, and a signal caller who looks apprehensive to push the ball down the field because he doesn't trust his protection, his receivers, or worse, both. And on top of that, looks like his feet are planted in cement. The win is good, but let's not kid ourselves. This wasn't a building block to something sustainable. This wasn't proof of concept. This was an alarming illustration of ineptitude that sheer resiliency was was able to outlast. This was simply a temporary stay of execution for a team that can hear the hangman cometh. And we'll break it all down for you next on the Burning River Sportscast.
I'm alone with you When I'm alone with you Everything's all right.
[00:02:26] Speaker A: Didn't know we were getting some sticks in here tonight.
[00:02:28] Speaker B: Yeah, sorry.
[00:02:29] Speaker C: Anytime you can throw sticks in.
[00:02:31] Speaker A: Jump, clap, spin, stomp, stomp.
[00:02:33] Speaker B: Hey, whoa, whoa.
[00:02:37] Speaker C: He's just not ready. We wouldn't give him more time. I'm like, well, you named him the backup quarterback.
[00:02:42] Speaker B: Yeah. If he's not ready.
[00:02:43] Speaker C: Now you're telling us that he is ready. He's supposed to be ready.
[00:02:45] Speaker A: Starter is not one play.
[00:02:48] Speaker C: He should be ready to go into the game.
[00:02:49] Speaker B: That's pretty alarming. And never forget, Lance, that it's always the dog that chases the cat. Bird, bird, bird, bird, bird is the word.
[00:02:59] Speaker C: Bird, bird, bird, bird, bird is the word.
[00:03:01] Speaker B: Have you heard?
[00:03:02] Speaker A: I don't know that for sure. So my Fact checker is over there.
[00:03:05] Speaker C: So I'm not gonna check that.
[00:03:09] Speaker A: He'S having performance issues.
[00:03:10] Speaker B: Te, you're having PE in the bedroom.
[00:03:13] Speaker A: We're reading Charlie and the Chocolate Factory to my daughter right now. She gets a chapter every night.
[00:03:17] Speaker B: I'll give you a chocolate factory.
[00:03:18] Speaker A: Thank you.
[00:03:18] Speaker D: My dad grew up in Cleveland area, so when I was a little kid, I'd see him get all excited on Sunday afternoons and yell and scream and it wasn't at me. So I figured that's a good thing. So that's how I got to be a Browns fan.
[00:03:31] Speaker B: Has 27 years of NFL experience, 16 years as a coach and 11 as a. And he'd sooner do your mom than punt on fourth down.
[00:03:40] Speaker A: Same takes over and over and over again.
[00:03:45] Speaker B: That's why you listen to the Burning River Sportscat.
Welcome into the Burning River Sportscast, presented by the fine folks at Tappin Media. I'm Kenny Thunder, joined today by a man whose very existence can only be described as an insult to humanity. He's read out Ronnie Jams in the control room today. He's light as a feather, but he's stiff as a board. He's the big bo bone.
[00:04:11] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:04:12] Speaker A: He did a worm thing.
[00:04:15] Speaker B: When is a door no longer a door?
[00:04:18] Speaker C: When it becomes a window.
[00:04:21] Speaker B: I had a feeling you were gonna say that. That's wrong.
When it's a jar.
[00:04:28] Speaker A: Got him back to red hot.
[00:04:30] Speaker B: Where can our listeners find the dopest dope they ever heard on a podcast? The number one ranked football podcast. And all good pods. As well as the unofficial podcast of Cleveland Browns backers everywhere.
[00:04:41] Speaker A: The official podcast of some Cleveland brownsbacker somewhere and growing. Every time you open the show, you hurt my feelings. By the way, you always say something so mean.
[00:04:48] Speaker B: It's intentional.
[00:04:49] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't like it. Thanks. Don't like it. You can find a podcast wherever you get your podcast. I'm talking Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Amazon Music, YouTube Music, Pandora, iHeartRadio podcast, Castro, Good Pods. We're number one ranked football podcast and so many more.
[00:05:03] Speaker B: And leave a review every time you open your mouth. It hurts my feelings.
[00:05:07] Speaker A: And leave a review in your preferred podcast app. This is the best way that we can grow. And don't forget to subscribe live on YouTube, the only place you can find your video podcast. Check us out on Facebook, Instagram and Tick Tock. Or handle for all those socials at Burning Verse Sportscast. We're on X as well. Handle at Burning Riverpod. While you're at it, check out our merch www.thetepinmedia.com backslash shop all kinds of stuff in there Today on the show. This is what you can look forward to. Hot takes from the Hot take hotline. Browns news so far this week. More messages from macho fan and Brownster Knot, the division roundup and King of the north with John Hughes. An interview with another Brownsbackers chapter this week, the the Southeast Michigan Brownsbackers and of course the the week three preview.
Week four preview.
[00:05:46] Speaker B: Week three, Week four.
[00:05:47] Speaker A: It's week four, Week four preview for the game against the Lions.
[00:05:50] Speaker B: Good one.
[00:05:51] Speaker A: But fellas.
[00:05:53] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:05:53] Speaker A: I'm so happy.
I'm so happy.
[00:06:00] Speaker B: Bring me down today.
[00:06:01] Speaker A: Kenny ruined it. Kenny wrecked it.
[00:06:03] Speaker B: Sorry.
[00:06:04] Speaker A: You're the worst, worst that ever lived.
[00:06:05] Speaker B: Do we try again?
[00:06:06] Speaker A: Let's just get things started with the bring of a news story.
All right. For the new story of the week this week, the Cleveland Guardians.
On July 6, the Cleveland Guardians were one strike away from beating the division leading Tigers and snapping a nine game losing streak only to somehow allow seven runs across the ninth and tenth innings and lose seven two and fall to a season high 15 and a half games back. Of those Tigers, it was the darkest of times. It was the worst of times. Yes.
However, however, however this week with their thrilling 5 to 2 comeback win over the reigning Cy Young winner, Tariq Skuba, Scubal, Skubal and the rest of the Tigers, obviously that was on Tuesday night at Progressive Field.
They came all the way back and they are now a top of the division.
And if they keep this going and they're able to complete the job because they do hold the tiebreaker, by the way, it will break the record set by the 1914 Miracle Boston Braves who are 15 games back for the largest deficit overcome by a league or division champion in a season in MLB history.
[00:07:36] Speaker B: It is now the best of times.
[00:07:38] Speaker A: It's the best of times.
[00:07:39] Speaker B: The best of times are when I'm alone with you. When I'm alone with you Everything's all right.
[00:07:53] Speaker A: Didn't know we were getting some sticks in here tonight.
[00:07:55] Speaker B: Yeah, sorry.
[00:07:56] Speaker C: Anytime you can throw sticks in, just throw them in.
[00:08:01] Speaker A: Yeah. So the Guardians are playing really good baseball and it's fantastic to watch, especially this weekend.
You know, the Browns won and then if Tuesday the the Guardians followed up by taking the division lead the whole Michigan week.
[00:08:17] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, that's. No, look, this is just, it's just been such a pleasant surprise. Right. I think we had a lot of us had kind of written the Guardians off several weeks back.
[00:08:26] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:08:26] Speaker B: It just wasn't in the cards this year. And it was, you know, it's been a fun team to watch all year. They've been played competitive ball, but we just kind of chalked it up to, like, yeah, you know, next year.
[00:08:35] Speaker A: Next year.
[00:08:36] Speaker B: But then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, like, this team just got.
[00:08:38] Speaker A: Hot, and it's so sexy.
[00:08:41] Speaker C: They got a great chance of making the playoffs now, either division winners or wild card. I believe they hold the. They hold the tiebreaker. Astros as well.
[00:08:47] Speaker A: Well, either of these teams, though, they're probably not making the wild card since they're playing each other right now. So unless they, like, split the series, like, if somebody. If. If the Guardians were to sweep, or even if. If Detroit won the next two games, like you're.
[00:09:00] Speaker C: I'm saying, either way, we have a chance of. Of making.
[00:09:04] Speaker B: Yeah, but if they just take care of business against.
[00:09:06] Speaker A: Yeah. If they beat Detroit, I mean, basically, they just got to win one of the next three games and they're in. So.
Yeah. I mean, just a fantastic story.
[00:09:13] Speaker B: So just another example of, like, getting. Getting right at the right time.
[00:09:18] Speaker A: Yeah. And the fact. The fact that they are so hot right now, like, if they make it into the playoffs, they're a dangerous team.
[00:09:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:09:24] Speaker A: So, Yeah.
[00:09:25] Speaker B: I mean, anything. It happened in October, right?
[00:09:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, I. We're gonna draw the Yankees again, probably, but. Yeah. So congratulations to the. To the Guardians.
Thanks for giving us something to watch when the Browns usually can't. We won this week.
Look, See, I told you. You got me depressed. And now I'm talking about how the Browns suck even though they won the game. I hate you. You're the worst friend.
[00:09:47] Speaker B: It's supposed to be a happy week.
[00:09:48] Speaker A: One more thing.
[00:09:49] Speaker B: So happy.
[00:09:50] Speaker A: Jump.
[00:09:51] Speaker B: I'm so happy.
[00:09:53] Speaker A: Jump clap.
I'm so happy today. Jump, clap. Spin, Stomp, stomp. Hey, anyways, one more thing before we get to the Browns, let me remind everybody. Call it Burger Bear sports. Guys, don't forget these. Call it hot takes. Leave hot digs on hot take.
[00:10:09] Speaker B: We want a hot takes. Give us the hot takes. We want the hot takes. We want the hot takes. We want the hot takes. We want the hot takes.
[00:10:13] Speaker A: You got some hot takes for us?
[00:10:14] Speaker B: I do have some hot takes for us.
[00:10:15] Speaker A: Let's play the hot takes.
[00:10:16] Speaker B: Are you ready?
[00:10:17] Speaker A: Are you ready to hear them?
[00:10:19] Speaker B: I'm ready.
Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. Oh, dear gosh. This is Bobby D from the New Jersey. I just did the Yo's for running jams, and I'm not talking to him anymore. I'm only talking to Kenny Thunder. That's it. Because he bashes me too much every week.
So everyone else, we got.
Hey, dog. He didn't leave angrily this week.
[00:10:50] Speaker A: What's up?
[00:10:50] Speaker B: We got Timmy. Yo.
And we got some newcomers who are Brown fans. Put your cheeks on top of them.
We got some Giant fans. Sorry, I said Brown fans. Giant fans. Well, this is a hot take.
[00:11:06] Speaker C: Highlight.
[00:11:06] Speaker B: All right, gentlemen, my hot take is how much longer do we actually put up with Joe Flacco? Because, yes, we won the game today, but that man is immobile.
You can put him in a wheelchair and he'd probably move quicker. That was atrocious on his part. Defense is amazing, but, like, it's. There's still. We won, but something still hasn't changed, I think Mr. Negative over here.
Mr. Negative. Oh, they're probably talking about the same thing on their toes today. So no negative kids. No negativity today. All right. None. This is.
Let's showing this up. They're not gonna play this whole thing.
[00:11:50] Speaker A: Start Gabriel.
[00:11:51] Speaker B: He's too old.
But honestly, I'm happy we won.
[00:11:55] Speaker C: Thank God for our kicker.
[00:11:59] Speaker B: We're like, on, like, a five minute timer here. Like, do the Giant fans want to say anything?
Nice to see you win.
I haven't seen that since we were in Cleveland. Oh, fuck you.
Whoa, whoa, Andy. All right, gentlemen, Always a pleasure.
[00:12:17] Speaker A: All right.
[00:12:18] Speaker B: There's always so much to unpack from North Jersey.
[00:12:21] Speaker A: Yeah. First of all, we'll start from the top.
I like how Bobby introduces himself. Like, we don't know who he is. Like, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. There's Bobby. D. This is.
[00:12:32] Speaker B: This is becoming my favorite part of the show every week when I roast everyone. No, just.
[00:12:35] Speaker A: Just hearing from Hobby D. Yeah.
[00:12:38] Speaker B: And friends.
[00:12:39] Speaker A: Second of all, the thing that stood out to me, I like that Kevin's trying to hurry everybody up. He's like, they're not going to play this whole thing, Kevin. We're. We're playing the whole thing. We want everybody to know just how you call into us.
[00:12:48] Speaker B: There was so much going on here. There's a car door open.
[00:12:50] Speaker A: Digging in the background real quick. Giants fans, you're no longer welcome. Don't ever talk on our show again.
If I was in North Jersey, I'd. I'd take you in the Jimmy's. Yeah, I took you right in the Jimmy's. Thanks.
Yeah. And Kevin was right, though, about Flacco.
[00:13:08] Speaker B: He's like, Kevin brought it back around. He was like, this is the hot take hotline.
[00:13:10] Speaker A: He's like, my hot take. How much longer are we gonna put up with Joe Flacco? Just so you know, listeners, the. The wheelchair comments were his, not ours.
[00:13:19] Speaker B: We're ada accessible here.
[00:13:21] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah.
And yes, you were correct, Kevin. That's what we talked about on Sunday on our show is that you still got to make the change. So. But the answer is now. The answer's right now.
Right, Bone?
You weren't on the show, so we'll let Bone take this one. Actually, Bone, when. When do we hang up Joe Flacco and bring in Dylan Gabriel?
[00:13:40] Speaker C: I think you just got to do it. You got to do it right now.
I heard a good. I heard a good point today there. You'll hear, well, he's just not ready. We wouldn't give him more time. I'm like, well, you named him the backup quarterback.
[00:13:52] Speaker B: Yeah. If he's not ready.
[00:13:53] Speaker C: Now you're telling us that he is ready. He's supposed to be ready.
[00:13:56] Speaker A: Starter is not one play.
[00:13:58] Speaker C: He should be ready to go into the game.
[00:14:00] Speaker B: That's pretty alarming. Yeah, he's not ready to play. I was like, why is he the backup?
[00:14:05] Speaker C: I heard that on the radio. I was like, wow, that is very profound.
[00:14:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:09] Speaker B: That might be the point of the show today. That needs reeled right now.
[00:14:14] Speaker A: Yeah. And then, oh, how times change.
We had.
There's so many names in the North Jersey Brownsback. Somebody said, thank God for our kicker. Just in a matter of two weeks. We went from cut him. And I know. Bobby D. Bobby D, I'm going to call you out right here because you were on board with us and you said cut him immediately.
So, you know, it goes from North Jersey, goes from cut him to thank God for our kicker.
[00:14:39] Speaker B: That's Browns fans. That's what we do.
[00:14:41] Speaker A: It's fair. We did it, too. I'm not. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not singling them out.
[00:14:44] Speaker C: Did you guys make your Schmidt is the T shirts yet?
[00:14:49] Speaker B: Bones is coming up with new birds on the fly.
[00:14:52] Speaker C: I mean, I'm not the first one to say that.
It could go on a T shirt.
[00:14:56] Speaker A: I think we should let Bone talk more often.
[00:15:00] Speaker B: We don't stop him from talking. Yeah, the mic gets.
[00:15:03] Speaker C: For all the listeners out there. They put their hands up and let me know when I can speak.
[00:15:07] Speaker B: Yeah, we cubo.
[00:15:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
Was there anything else in that?
[00:15:14] Speaker B: I don't know. I just. I always.
[00:15:15] Speaker A: We appreciate you, North Jersey Brownsbackers. Thanks for calling again. We got any more?
[00:15:19] Speaker B: We do have one more. This one's Actually, a little special.
Not like special, like in a bad way. Like special like special. Like.
[00:15:26] Speaker A: Not like special like North.
[00:15:27] Speaker B: This is like. This is a good call.
Not that the last one was a bad call. And North Jersey is always good, but.
[00:15:32] Speaker A: Kenny's just called North Jersey. Brownsbacker special.
[00:15:36] Speaker B: Shut up.
Hey, guys. Tyler Schmoozing. You guys have responded to an email about my dad. I first wanted to say thank you for that. It was greatly appreciated by my family.
Also, that was a hell of a game the Browns played against my Packers. That one hurt.
But I know you guys are happy about it. I'm sure dad is happy about it as well.
[00:15:58] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:15:58] Speaker B: So just wanted to say congratulations on the win. Hopefully you guys can do that to the rest of the NFC north for me, ideally the Lions and maybe even the Viqueens. I don't really care about the Bears. They're not worth much. But. Yeah, Just wanted to call and say congrats on the win and been enjoying listening to your show.
Have a nice day.
[00:16:19] Speaker A: Yeah, this one is special because Tyler, I don't know if the listeners remember or maybe they didn't catch that show, but a few.
A few shows back. Early in the season this year, we talked about Tyler's dad, and he passed away this past year, earlier this year. And Tyler wrote us an email and just let us know that his dad was a regular listener and that, you know, they would always. He would use points from our show against Tyler and arguments and things like that, and just that it helped bring some joy to his dad.
[00:16:50] Speaker B: Tyler's a big packers fan.
[00:16:51] Speaker A: And Tyler's a big packers fan, so. So, Tyler, thank you for the kind words.
You know, it means a lot to us that we were able to, you know. You said it meant a lot to your family. Well, it means a lot to us.
That sounds weird, but it means a lot to us that it means a lot to your family. Like, it's just a really nice moment and things like this, when they come up on our show, it's just. I mean, this is all the more reason why we continue to do what we do. I mean, it is a labor of love. We spend a lot of time doing it. We don't usually get into this and try and make it sound like, you know, how hard it is or whatever. It's. It's. We spend a lot of time doing this. A lot of time that we take away from our families to do it. So the fact that it means this much to somebody else helps make it all worth it. So we really Appreciate you calling in Tyler.
[00:17:40] Speaker B: And we hope we beat the rest of the NFC north too.
[00:17:41] Speaker A: Yeah, I agree and I agree with you. The Bears aren't worth shit, so.
But yeah, hang in there, Tyler. I don't. You know, your. Your prediction earlier this year may be coming, right? The packers may be winning a Super bowl.
[00:17:53] Speaker B: So, yeah, they're pretty good.
[00:17:55] Speaker A: Yeah, but we beat them. But the Browns beat them. So sorry.
And was that all of them?
[00:18:01] Speaker B: That was what we had this week.
[00:18:02] Speaker A: All right, so with that, just one more time, let me remind you, call the hot take hotline. These are hot takes. We want hot takes. We want hot takes. We want hot takes. 3302-2780-8133-0227-8081-3302-2278-0810, 1330, 227-881 call now. We are not standing by.
[00:18:22] Speaker B: We're not here.
[00:18:23] Speaker C: Nobody's.
[00:18:24] Speaker A: But we'll put you on air like we just did.
[00:18:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:25] Speaker A: Speaking of hot takes, it's time for T with the Macho Fan.
[00:18:35] Speaker B: I told you, this whole season it's going to be full of practices last week with no joke. I can tell you that now. Going through Detroit, you think you're the baddest city in all the land. But no way. When the Browns come to town, we're gonna show you what we're the baddest. That's right. And never forget Lions. And it's always the dog that chases the cat. And when we catch you, oh, when we get ya, you're gonna feel the pain. You're gonna feel the wrath. You're going to feel the madness. Cuz we are the best city in all the land.
[00:19:17] Speaker A: Oh yeah.
Gold Browns D.
Man, the macho fan is so intimidating. Like other fans have to be afraid of him, right?
[00:19:30] Speaker B: I'm afraid of him.
[00:19:31] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:31] Speaker B: That was because he threatened me, though.
[00:19:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:34] Speaker C: Shouldn't talk about his woman.
[00:19:35] Speaker A: Yeah, don't Mr. Thunder.
Well, listen, he's not wrong. It is the dog that chases the cat.
[00:19:43] Speaker B: That's. That's true.
[00:19:44] Speaker A: So speaking of dogs, it's time for the Burning River Sportscast Dog of the week.
[00:19:50] Speaker B: Is that a metaphor?
You gotta play tough people in the National Football League. You gotta be ready. And we gotta be the dogs that we are every time we step on there on Sunday and be ready to attack. And don't stop until we're in that locker room.
[00:20:08] Speaker A: All right. So we leave it up to our listeners and followers to determine the Burning River Sportscast Dog of the Week. Each week on Our live show on Sundays, we each nominate a dog of the week candidate. From there, we turn it over to all of you on our socials to vote and make the final decision. This week. I'll preface this with Kenny tried to nominate the entire defense and I told him no. So, Kenny, who was your pick?
[00:20:28] Speaker B: The entire Browns defense.
[00:20:30] Speaker A: Kenny's pick was Quinch on Judkins bone, who's your pick?
[00:20:33] Speaker C: It was the defense. And then he picked an offensive player.
[00:20:35] Speaker A: That he told me before the show started. And then he was like, just kidding. I'm going with the defense.
[00:20:40] Speaker B: I wasn't just kidding. I thought about it during the show and I was like that. The defensive.
[00:20:43] Speaker A: We both picked defensive players, though. So I told him he wasn't.
[00:20:45] Speaker B: Effort was just outstanding across the board.
[00:20:47] Speaker A: I told him he wasn't allowed.
[00:20:48] Speaker C: So his is Quinch on joke apparently broke Carson Schwinger.
[00:20:53] Speaker A: Yeah, Carson. Carson Schweizzinger.
[00:20:55] Speaker C: Schweisinger, man, when he came and hit Jordan. Yeah. On the. Kind of on the sideline. I don't know, I just.
[00:21:01] Speaker B: It was one of those plays where typically the quarterback unloads the ball.
[00:21:04] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:21:04] Speaker B: And for whatever reason, he didn't popped him.
[00:21:07] Speaker A: Blasted.
[00:21:08] Speaker C: I just loved it. So much fun.
[00:21:10] Speaker A: And then.
[00:21:10] Speaker B: And Schweisinger also got himself nominated for what player. It wasn't just Rookie of the week. Right. It was player the week.
[00:21:16] Speaker A: It might have been player the week. I didn't. Yeah. And then I. I nominated Grant Delpit. So after the fan vote that was conducted today, conducted this week on our social media, this week's Burning river sportscast Dog of the week is Grant Delpitz. And guys, this song was by far the closest vote we've ever had. Delpit won by one vote.
Now, we've had. We've had people win by one vote before, but this is significant because both Schwiesinger and Judkins tied behind him.
So it was tight.
[00:21:49] Speaker B: I think it just goes to show.
[00:21:51] Speaker A: It'S not good, but it's tight that.
[00:21:52] Speaker B: The real dog of the week was the Cleveland Browns defense.
[00:21:55] Speaker A: Judkins got a lot of votes.
[00:21:57] Speaker B: I mean, that's fine.
[00:21:59] Speaker A: All right. Delpit had. It's Delpit, though. So he had nine total tackles, six solo, one tackle for loss, one pass defense, and one interception. And then I didn't put this in there, but one truck stick on Jordan Love.
[00:22:13] Speaker B: So that's a good stat.
[00:22:15] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, you hip toss the. The quarterback at the end of the run. That's always good.
[00:22:18] Speaker B: That was my favorite play of the day.
[00:22:20] Speaker A: Yeah, but you know what I want to do, Kenny? Let's give something away.
[00:22:24] Speaker B: What's going on there? Sorry, that was distracting. There's a naked man on tv.
[00:22:28] Speaker A: Kenny can't help himself when he sees a it man. Pick that up and show everybody.
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[00:22:46] Speaker B: Bird, bird, bird. Bird is the word.
[00:22:48] Speaker A: Bird, bird.
[00:22:50] Speaker B: Have you heard?
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[00:23:21] Speaker B: Kenny, you better be subscribed on YouTube or I'll kick you in the Jimmy's.
[00:23:24] Speaker A: Kick it right in the Jimmy.
[00:23:25] Speaker B: Right at Jimmy's.
[00:23:25] Speaker A: Right at Jimmy's.
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[00:23:50] Speaker B: Do it or kick you in the jimmies.
[00:23:51] Speaker A: And good luck.
[00:23:52] Speaker B: I gotta admit, you're always threatening people.
I'm a threatening figure. I gotta admit, I would be a terrible like meteorologist because this isn't even green screen. Like I was being a whiting, like showing this off and it's just like backwards to me. But I still couldn't do it.
[00:24:07] Speaker A: All right, another Browns news.
Oh, we have a sounder for that.
ODOT has approved the stadium plans and the dome is back on track.
[00:24:20] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, the dome is back.
[00:24:23] Speaker A: Now that it was going anywhere. We said this on the show before. We're like, this is just a hiccup.
[00:24:26] Speaker B: We have a shirt that says give me dome or we're getting dome.
[00:24:29] Speaker A: We're getting that shirt.
[00:24:30] Speaker B: We.
[00:24:30] Speaker A: I've designed it. It wasn't a very good design. I want to redesign it. But yeah, we're gonna have a shirt Soon. That says give me dumb.
[00:24:35] Speaker B: Give me dumb.
[00:24:36] Speaker A: Now that you've announced it on this show. Yeah.
Dwan Jones out for the season with the knee injury that will require surgery. So feels bad.
[00:24:46] Speaker B: Yeah. Look, I never want to see a guy go down, but honestly, like this might be addition through subtraction. To be honest, I don't. He wasn't playing that well to begin.
[00:24:54] Speaker A: Well, they're gonna have to go out and get somebody. I think what this does is it definitely puts the nail in the coffin as far as him ever being like the full like our left tackle of the future.
[00:25:02] Speaker B: Well, yeah, especially. Here's the other thing too. People don't understand I think about like online O line injuries. Like these guys are big. Like it's hard to rehab in a single year and really get back to full strength. These guys that have that much weight and especially a guy like the one, he's a really big human. Like it's gonna take a while before he's right.
[00:25:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
But assuming he does come back and he is able to get healthy, what this does do is it allows us to actually search for a legitimate left tackle and maybe move him back to right tackle because he played well when he was at right tackle. He did not play well when he was at left tackle. So we'll see.
And then finally, Andre Schmidt walk off field goal. Holy Schmidt. Yeah. On Sunday was the longest walk off field goal in Brown's history.
[00:25:46] Speaker B: He was glorious.
[00:25:47] Speaker C: Really?
[00:25:48] Speaker A: Yeah. So that's. We're talking which Phil. Phil was a great kicker for us. Phil never really had like a. He wasn't.
[00:25:54] Speaker B: He didn't have a huge different game though. Like when Phil played 50 yards was a long field goal. Game has evolved in the last couple of years.
[00:26:01] Speaker A: That's kind of what I mean is like he just. They didn't kick 50 yard field goals back then. Like that wasn't. They did, but it was rare.
[00:26:07] Speaker B: Well, it was just. That was long, right?
[00:26:09] Speaker A: I mean 55 was like unheard of at that time.
[00:26:11] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean 50, like 52, 53 is. I mean what was the Patriots venator? Wasn't it like a 48 yarder? And that was like when they won the first Super Bowl. Like it was like a big deal. Like that was longer than Cade York's in Carolina.
[00:26:24] Speaker A: Yeah, it was the longest one ever. I think. I think it was a 53.
Was Kate Yorks in Carolina?
I don't know that for sure. So my fact checker is over there.
[00:26:33] Speaker C: So I'm not gonna check that.
[00:26:39] Speaker A: But yeah, we didn't we?
[00:26:40] Speaker B: Did not cue you there.
[00:26:43] Speaker A: Don't ever speak again.
But that'll take us to the division roundup.
58 yards.
[00:27:01] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what I thought. I thought that was a long one.
[00:27:04] Speaker A: It was a game winning field goal. It wasn't a walk off because there.
[00:27:07] Speaker B: Was eight seconds left. That's fair.
[00:27:09] Speaker A: Yeah. So that's. That's where the.
[00:27:11] Speaker B: That's the distinction.
[00:27:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:12] Speaker B: Walk off.
[00:27:13] Speaker A: So not the longest in Brown's history. The longest, longest walk, walk off in Brown's history.
[00:27:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:18] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:18] Speaker B: It was a fun celebration.
[00:27:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:20] Speaker B: Good, Good moment. Redemption moment for. For Schmidt, though.
[00:27:23] Speaker A: Good for him. So in the division roundup here. Cincinnati got humped by the vikings this week, 48 to 10.
[00:27:30] Speaker C: Serves him right.
[00:27:32] Speaker A: We all picked this game, right? That wasn't. That wasn't a tough one to pick.
[00:27:36] Speaker B: The battle of the girlfriends went to Carson Wentz.
[00:27:42] Speaker A: Yeah. Cincinnati is not good. They weren't good before they. They were starting their backup quarterback and they're not good with their backup quarterback. So they're just not good.
[00:27:49] Speaker B: No, they are.
[00:27:50] Speaker A: They legitimately will challenge the Browns for who's got the worst record in the division this year.
[00:27:55] Speaker B: I. I said that early on in the season. I didn't think they were going to be that good.
[00:27:58] Speaker A: And we say this every year. Nobody listens to us. Bengals aren't good.
[00:28:02] Speaker B: Cincinnati is like the definition of a pretender. Right? Like, they have, like, all, you know, Jamar Chase and T. Higgins. Like, they got these guys that you're like, oh, this is going to be a great team, but there's just nothing else around them.
[00:28:12] Speaker A: Yeah. They should be. The case study for why you shouldn't prioritize wide receivers so high in the draft is because, like, they're. They're really good. But are they going to win you a championship? No. They got, like, the best receiving core in the league and they suck.
[00:28:23] Speaker B: I don't really want to go there because I would like some nice receivers.
[00:28:25] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, at least.
Yeah. I'm just saying, like.
[00:28:30] Speaker B: But I get your point. Which is like, building.
[00:28:32] Speaker A: Maybe, maybe, maybe we don't build the offense around some receivers. I mean, it's technically built around Joe Burrow, but he's never on the field, so.
[00:28:39] Speaker B: That's true.
[00:28:40] Speaker A: Anyways, Baltimore, we all got that one right. By the way, Baltimore Lost to Detroit 38. 30.
[00:28:47] Speaker B: Did not see that one coming.
[00:28:48] Speaker A: I did not either.
[00:28:49] Speaker B: Turns out Detroit is pretty good.
[00:28:51] Speaker A: Matter of fact, none of us saw it coming because we all got it wrong.
[00:28:53] Speaker B: We all got it wrong.
[00:28:56] Speaker A: And Then Pittsburgh beat New England 2114. And this is where it started getting bad for. For all. All of us.
Brsogs, Analytics.
Yeah. Me, you, Kenny, and Bone all got this one wrong. And. And Big John, I was. I was letting you. I was letting you know who I was talking to. Well, Bones over there, me, Kenny, Ronnie, Jams, Kenny, Thunder, and the Bone man all got this one wrong. And Big John got this one right.
[00:29:30] Speaker B: Camera operator four.
[00:29:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
And then finally, Cleveland did the unthinkable and took out the Packers 13 to 10. We were all wrong.
[00:29:39] Speaker B: We should have saw.
[00:29:39] Speaker A: Nobody saw this coming.
[00:29:41] Speaker B: We should have saw this coming because at one point, I think.
[00:29:44] Speaker A: Bones, at one point, they said, let's get it on.
[00:29:47] Speaker B: At one point, Bone, I think, said, pretty sure we're going to all be picking the same teams this week. That should have been our cue to know we were wrong.
[00:29:56] Speaker A: Nobody. Nobody wanted to go against it, though. They were like, how can you pick the Browns?
So for the AFC north standings are as follows. Pittsburgh and Cincinnati atop the division at two and one.
[00:30:09] Speaker B: The two worst team. I mean. I mean, I guess Cleveland's bad, too, but I wouldn't. I wouldn't have guessed that they would have been 2 and 1 after.
[00:30:16] Speaker A: And then Baltimore and Cleveland at 1 and 2.
Current king of the north standings, Bone and Big John are tied at five and five, and me and Kenny are right behind him at four and six.
[00:30:26] Speaker B: Big Bone and Big John.
[00:30:28] Speaker A: Big Bone.
Let's take a quick trip around the NFL.
[00:30:32] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:30:42] Speaker A: The Giants will be benching Russell Wilson this week. Russell Wilson no longer tussles.
[00:30:50] Speaker B: No, he.
[00:30:50] Speaker A: Russell does not tussle. Bone, how do you feel?
[00:30:54] Speaker C: I moved on. Although my fantasy team is still Russell. Still tussles.
[00:30:59] Speaker A: Wasn't it just last week that he said russell tussles? I think it was last week on our show.
[00:31:02] Speaker B: Well, Russell did tussle.
[00:31:03] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:31:04] Speaker B: This week.
[00:31:04] Speaker C: Well, from last week to this week, I moved on.
[00:31:06] Speaker A: Oh, that was the time that it finally happened. He's moved on.
They're gonna start Jackson dart. So, guys, I'm not. They get it.
[00:31:13] Speaker B: I'm not gonna lie because I'm terrified about Jason Jackson Dart.
Not because, like, he's gonna wreck the Browns plants, but, like, he was. He was my number one quarterback coming out in the draft. I was really hoping the Browns would pick him.
[00:31:24] Speaker C: I liked him.
[00:31:26] Speaker B: And, like, if he comes out and balls for New York, like, it's just gonna be Big Mayfield all over again. Like, I'm gonna feel just bad for the rest of my life that, like, we Missed the opportunity. We had chances to pick him and didn't.
[00:31:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:31:35] Speaker B: And we went with two guys that, who knows that they're not even. They're not even prepared to see the field.
[00:31:41] Speaker A: Apparently you'll probably be saying, oh, balls.
[00:31:43] Speaker B: Oh, balls.
[00:31:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
All right.
Yeah. I mean, that would be bad.
But. But the Giants get it. They're like, we're not going anywhere. We might as well start a rookie well.
[00:31:59] Speaker B: Yeah, Well, I think Jackson dart looks promising. I mean, I think he had a good, a good camp and a good preseason, so he probably does. In the words of the great Kevin Stefanski, gives them the best chance to win.
[00:32:09] Speaker A: Yeah. So is our rookie, but he's not ready. Apparently.
[00:32:12] Speaker B: He's not ready. He's not prepared.
[00:32:13] Speaker A: Yeah.
Yeah. Next up here, Mike Evans out three to four weeks. Feels bad. But now, you know what this gives us chance to do, though. I'm actually excited about this.
[00:32:22] Speaker B: Yeah. If Baker continues to play really well without Mike Evans. Because we keep hearing that apparently Mike Evans is the only guy he throws to. Even though he threw for almost 4,000 yards to all the other receivers. Not.
[00:32:31] Speaker A: He threw for 100 yards less than, than Josh Allen to receivers. Josh Allen's total last year.
[00:32:38] Speaker C: Now he has a buka to throw to who's like, looks like he's like a perennial all star.
[00:32:44] Speaker B: Did you see, did you see the clip of Baker talking about.
[00:32:46] Speaker A: Yeah, he's like, don't you disrespect.
[00:32:47] Speaker B: Don't you disrespect my football. You catch it with two hands. Hands.
[00:32:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:32:50] Speaker B: And then he made that sick one handed grab and he was like, he disrespected my ball.
[00:32:56] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I saw it. But yeah. So Mike Evans out three to four weeks.
[00:33:00] Speaker B: That's the worst.
[00:33:00] Speaker A: I think, I think that's the worst.
[00:33:01] Speaker B: Part I miss about Baker. Just the swag and the stupid, like.
[00:33:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:33:06] Speaker B: Funness of Baker Mayfield.
[00:33:07] Speaker A: I will say this. They got a lot of work to do with Mike Evans if he's going to miss three to four weeks to get him to that thousand yard mark again.
[00:33:13] Speaker B: That's. That's true. Because he doesn't miss a thousand yards.
[00:33:16] Speaker A: Right. Right. So, I mean, that guy can catch.
[00:33:17] Speaker B: For 200 any week though, so.
[00:33:18] Speaker A: True. True. CD Lamb hurt. Being a running back.
[00:33:21] Speaker B: So stupid and totally probably torpedoed my fancy football season.
[00:33:26] Speaker A: You texted me immediately, you're like, oh, no.
[00:33:29] Speaker B: I mean, what was he doing in the backfield? Like, this is.
[00:33:32] Speaker A: You don't put receivers in the backfield and make them run up the gut.
[00:33:34] Speaker B: No, no, no, you don't. Because a guy.
[00:33:37] Speaker C: Josh Cribs did it.
[00:33:38] Speaker B: But Josh Cribs was a versatile guy. Right.
[00:33:41] Speaker A: Josh Cribs is built different.
[00:33:43] Speaker B: Yeah, built different. Ten toes down, whatever that means.
[00:33:46] Speaker A: Standalone business.
[00:33:48] Speaker B: But CDs. A guy that. Not that he's fragile, but he's a. He's a longer, lankier body that is used to being hit by dbs. Right. You're. You're used to being hit by guys that are your size. You put me in the backfield and hand me the ball, all of a sudden I'm getting crushed by defensive linemen. That's not a normal thing to have happen to you.
[00:34:05] Speaker A: No.
[00:34:06] Speaker B: Especially when you're the most important piece. Piece of their offense.
[00:34:08] Speaker A: Well, they just read like. Like, don't get me wrong, they have running ability and they have field vision, but it's. It's different because you don't.
[00:34:15] Speaker B: Right.
[00:34:15] Speaker A: Like you don't get the ball until you're past all those big guys.
[00:34:18] Speaker B: And it's one thing, you know, to get a ball on an end around or reverse where there's some misdirection or some, you know, mystery about who's getting the ball to just line you up at tailback and hand you the rock power. Right. Like, what are we. What are you doing?
[00:34:31] Speaker A: I mean, this is a good idea.
I don't know. I don't know.
Good luck to your fantasy team. Thank you.
The Panthers beat the Falcons 30 to nothing.
[00:34:41] Speaker B: What happened?
[00:34:42] Speaker A: Kenny, I know you have some thoughts on that, specifically about the quarterback in Atlanta.
[00:34:46] Speaker B: The interesting thing about Mike Penck is on one hand he sucks, but on the other he just blows.
So it's really a toss up between. What are you going to do there?
[00:34:56] Speaker A: I don't know.
So many blocked kicks this week. The. There were four big blocked field goal attempts in week three.
In addition, there were four walk off field goals, including one that sent the Broncos to their second straight loss despite Denver never having trailed in the fourth quarter of either game.
[00:35:14] Speaker B: Feels bad.
[00:35:15] Speaker A: That feels real bad. It's a real.
[00:35:17] Speaker B: It's a real Browns way to go.
[00:35:18] Speaker A: Yeah, that has to be. That's like the Browns are probably like, oh, we should do that next.
[00:35:22] Speaker B: We should do that.
[00:35:23] Speaker A: Yeah, that looks. Let's do it. Let's do it three times in a row.
[00:35:26] Speaker B: That looks like a fun way to lose.
[00:35:27] Speaker A: Yeah.
Yeah. That's wild.
Next.
[00:35:31] Speaker B: I. I think that Denver team is pretty good, so I think they'll bounce back. That defense is really good. And. And B, Knicks has had you love Bo Nicks.
[00:35:38] Speaker A: You love his hair.
[00:35:39] Speaker B: I don't think he's that good, but he's. Apparently he's better than I thought he was.
Does he have good hair? I've never even seen.
[00:35:45] Speaker A: No, it's terrible.
[00:35:46] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:35:47] Speaker A: Trouble in Nashville. Question mark. Head coach.
Head coach. Callahan over there. What's. What's the younger cat? What's the baby Callahan.
[00:35:54] Speaker B: Little Callahan.
[00:35:55] Speaker A: Little Callahan. Bill's son. Bill's son. He has cedar needed play calling after an Owen 3 start. So.
I mean, first year head Coach, they're Owen 3. They had the top draft pick. They're not winning any games. I hope he gets fired because if he gets fired, maybe Bill Callahan might come back.
You guys think that'll happen?
[00:36:15] Speaker C: No, no.
[00:36:16] Speaker A: Dang it.
[00:36:17] Speaker C: But it, you know, it could.
[00:36:19] Speaker B: It's possible.
[00:36:20] Speaker A: All right, thanks for on my idea.
[00:36:22] Speaker B: No, it's not gonna happen.
[00:36:23] Speaker A: I mean, appreciate it.
[00:36:24] Speaker C: He basically left and said like, it's my son, guys. Like, I. I gotta go.
[00:36:28] Speaker A: Yeah, but if his son gets sound.
[00:36:29] Speaker C: Like it sounds like he had a good relationship with our staff. If they keep our staff.
[00:36:32] Speaker A: No, that's what I'm saying. And you're on it.
[00:36:35] Speaker B: Okay.
I. This feels a little premature to me. Premature?
[00:36:42] Speaker A: He's having performance issues.
[00:36:44] Speaker B: You're having pee in the bedroom.
This feels premature to me. The Titans weren't good, right?
[00:36:51] Speaker A: They're terrible.
[00:36:52] Speaker B: Again with you drafted a rookie quarterback first overall.
[00:36:55] Speaker A: He's actually not playing. I mean, I don't know if he's playing great, but I don't think he's playing.
[00:36:59] Speaker B: And you have a first year head coach, like he started 0 and 3. I know that feels bad in the moment, but like, I don't think that's shift course.
[00:37:06] Speaker A: Yeah, the Browns are better than you.
[00:37:07] Speaker B: I don't think that's shift course bad. Right. I mean, you look at other teams just in the history of football, like Troy Aikman didn't start out really well. What'd they go 1 in 15 or something? Like Peyton Manning through 30 interceptions his rookie season. Like if you would have knee jerk reaction to that, you might have missed out on literal hall of Fame talent and just an outstanding future with some of these guys. So I just. To me this just feels like way preemptive to be like hitting the panic button for Tennessee.
They're just not that good. Right. Like a year or two from now, this stays the same. Like maybe, but I don't know. I guess I don't care. I'm not a Titans fan.
[00:37:44] Speaker A: Thanks for giving us that big analysis.
[00:37:46] Speaker C: Hey, maybe this maybe this guy just has great leadership qualities that maybe we don't see in our own coach. He's like, you know what? I need a little help.
[00:37:55] Speaker B: Man enough to admit when he's wrong.
[00:37:57] Speaker A: Sure fair there.
By the way, we're now a Tennessee Titans podcast.
Welcome to Tighten Up Titan.
[00:38:06] Speaker C: I like that.
[00:38:06] Speaker A: 10 toes down.
10 toes down. Tighten up, yeah.
Finally went to a game there, I guess. Not finally, but. Former Bengals running back Rudy Johnson unfortunately took his own life this week at the age of 45.
Family close to him said he had been struggling with mental illness and things had gotten especially bad lately.
In his final days, though, he did spend most of his time helping others overcome their own mental health struggles. He was involved in a lot of different things and trying to help others. So rest in peace, Rudy Johnson. I remember some of the games in the early 2000s against the Bengals where it was just like the most high scoring, ridiculous, like ever. It felt like every two years we'd have a game where it was like 48, 45. And he was a part of a lot of those games. So yeah, he was a player.
[00:38:54] Speaker B: Sad story for sure.
Look, I think a lot of this goes, you know, obviously opens up the conversation around long term impact of the game, these guys, head injuries, all that sort of thing. So. But just tremendously sad. And so young.
[00:39:08] Speaker A: Yeah. 45, man.
[00:39:09] Speaker B: Unfortunate.
[00:39:10] Speaker A: Yep. So rest in peace and ever. You know, we're all thinking about your family and close friends and everybody else that was affected. So not, not. Not in the NFL for our final story. But robot umps are coming to the MLB in 2026.
[00:39:27] Speaker B: That's a funny word.
[00:39:28] Speaker A: Robot umps. Umps, umps.
We're reading Charlie and the Chocolate Factory to my daughter right now. She gets a chapter every day.
[00:39:38] Speaker B: I'll give you a chocolate factory.
[00:39:39] Speaker A: Thank you.
[00:39:45] Speaker B: I don't even know what that means.
[00:39:47] Speaker A: That did not sound good.
But yeah, robot I'm. So you're gonna get two challenges. It's. It's either the.
The catcher, the pitcher, or the batter can initiate a challenge and you get two challenges a game. Every challenge that you win, you retain.
So look, I'm, I'm.
[00:40:08] Speaker B: I mean, I might be in the minority here, but like, I'm all for.
[00:40:12] Speaker A: I don't want to use them part time. I want to use them full time.
[00:40:14] Speaker B: Lasers, whatever they can for. For really awesome sports. Right? Like how many games are decided on bad calls near the end of the game where it's a foot out of bounds, a toe here, there, blade of.
[00:40:24] Speaker A: Grass, don't make it subjective.
[00:40:25] Speaker B: Like it's literally just be definitive about it. Like the game is good enough to stand on its own. We should at least get the calls right because it sucks when they get it wrong. And I mean, even this week, I mean, there was in the Buccaneers game, I mean, there was a catch down the sideline that would have put him in the field goal range that was very clearly a catch. Catch under two minutes. They never even reviewed it. Yeah, the Buccaneers took a timeout because they kept playing it on the jumbotron. They were like, can anybody just look at this? Because it's very clearly a catch. And the NFL just said, no, we're just not going to do it.
[00:40:55] Speaker C: So they'll come out three days later. Oh, yeah, we missed that call.
[00:40:58] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, so thanks. I'm all for whatever they can.
[00:41:01] Speaker A: Thanks. We all saw it in real time.
[00:41:02] Speaker B: To get things right.
[00:41:04] Speaker A: Yeah, I agree. I mean, I'm. I don't think you're in the minority. I think it's probably split 50, 50 now, but it, yeah, definitely bring in AI robots. Whatever you got to bring in.
[00:41:13] Speaker B: Well, like, at least then, like, I don't feel as bad. Like if you get screwed on a call. Like if I get screwed on a call now I'm like, was the ref betting on the game? Or I'm like, this guy just hates Cleveland. At least if it's a robot. I'm just like, this is the Browns being bad.
[00:41:26] Speaker A: Yeah, well. And I would say, damn it, Alexa.
I would say this, especially in baseball, though. Like, the strike zone.
The strike zone seems like such, such a no brainer to me. Like, those guys get balls and strikes wrong every time, all the time.
[00:41:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:41:42] Speaker A: Like, why not just take that part out of it?
[00:41:44] Speaker B: Right?
[00:41:45] Speaker A: But anyways, I digress.
[00:41:46] Speaker B: People, people that are traditionalists love the whole subjective umpire guy. He calls him inside or he likes to see him high, whatever.
[00:41:54] Speaker A: Like, they have to adjust to the umpire. That's not baseball.
Like, what?
[00:41:59] Speaker B: This isn't golf. You don't adjust to the outside surroundings.
[00:42:02] Speaker A: I don't. That's stupid.
Ken. You know what it's time for?
[00:42:05] Speaker B: What is it time for?
[00:42:06] Speaker A: It's time for another interview in our Browns time Browns backers interview series.
[00:42:11] Speaker B: I'm in.
How much money do you make a year before taxes?
I'm actually not comfortable answering that. Come on, we're doing the interview now, not you.
[00:42:25] Speaker A: All right, so for this brownsbackers interview, please help me welcome Halo, calling from the sports den in Northville, Michigan. An officer of the Southeast Micha the Southeast Michigan Brownsbackers. Dave, thank you so much for joining us. How are you today?
[00:42:43] Speaker D: Wonderful, wonderful. Especially after Sunday.
[00:42:46] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. It's always, it's always good to follow up, you know, either one that follows.
[00:42:51] Speaker B: A win, it's always a fun week after they win.
[00:42:53] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. So. So, Dave, tell us, I know you're an officer of the Southeast Michigan Brownsbackers. Can you tell us a little bit about your chapter?
[00:43:03] Speaker D: Yeah, well, we started in 2005 and we were very, very active. We had up to three viewing locations and well over 100 weekly visitors.
We supported charities like Toys for Tots and Pickerington School for the Blind up here.
And so it was quite a great thing. We had a VP from Domino's was our founder and put a lot of energy into the club over the last few years. It's diminished somewhat for a lot of reasons, you know, but we still have a solid core at the Northville Sports Den, which is a western suburb of Detroit. And we still chant every time they score a touchdown, assuming they make the extra point, too.
And, you know, occasionally have raffles like we'll be doing this Sunday, you know, to help raise money for our efforts.
[00:43:54] Speaker A: Absolutely.
And do you guys. I know you said it's diminished a little bit, but are you guys still doing any, any sort of events?
I know you said you have a raffle this week, but do you have anything else coming up?
[00:44:05] Speaker D: Not specifically.
I'm still this hat I got, I got it at the draft when they had it at Detroit last year.
So that was cool. To be able to see an Ohio State guy and a Michigan guy get drafted on the second day and be up there with the, with the, you know, Brown supporters right up near the front row is a great experience. So that's, you know, one of the things that Browns backers clubs get to do when they have drafts in their cities, they invite them to be part of that contingent.
[00:44:37] Speaker A: Oh, nice.
And yeah, I mean, I will have to agree to disagree a little bit. I don't ever like the Browns drafting guys from that team up north. But, you know, you're from, you guys are from up there. So I'm not, I'm not going to hate too hard, you know, I'm not going to hate too hard.
[00:44:50] Speaker B: Hard.
Dave, have you always been in Michigan or did you grow up in.
[00:44:55] Speaker D: I actually grew up in Toledo was right across the border. My dad grew up in Cleveland area, so when I was a little kid, I'd see him get all excited on Sunday afternoons and yell and Scream. And it wasn't at me. So I figured that's a good thing. So that's how I got to be a Browns fan. Kind of took on a life of its own from there. You know, we followed them through the Cardiac kids and the great teams of the mid to late 80s.
And then of course, through the Betrayal.
[00:45:21] Speaker B: Betrayal.
[00:45:22] Speaker D: The rebirth and everything since.
[00:45:25] Speaker A: And you. You know, we mentioned college football there just a second ago.
Growing up in Toledo, were you a fan of the team up north or are you a fan of Ohio State?
[00:45:34] Speaker D: Interesting you should say that. My parents were Ohio State fans because they say that's where we pay our taxes. We support that school. Me, I was a Michigan fan because one of my very first football memories was an Ohio State head coach punching an opposing player during a bowl game and getting fired for it. So me being a Catholic schoolboy, I'm like, I can't root for them. So that made me a Michigan fan many years later.
[00:45:58] Speaker A: So let me get this straight. You guys were literally living the war. The. The. The. The only two states that ever declared war on each other. You guys were living it in Toledo, in the. In the city that the war was literally over.
[00:46:10] Speaker D: That's right. And there was all these stores called Buckeye Wolverine Shops where you could get gear from both teams, you know, depending on your. On your preference. But many years later, my mom ended up taking a job with the University of Michigan, so they finally came over.
Amazing blue.
[00:46:26] Speaker A: I just be sick, I gotta say.
[00:46:29] Speaker B: To be honest, most people that, you know, grew up, Michigan fans here that, like, were part of our generation.
[00:46:36] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:46:36] Speaker B: Like, they don't really have a good reason to be Michigan.
[00:46:38] Speaker A: True. That's good.
[00:46:39] Speaker B: This is actually a pretty legitimate, like.
[00:46:41] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, I mean, that wasn't a good look.
Punching a player is not a good look. Yeah. It is what it is.
[00:46:47] Speaker B: I forgive you, Dave.
[00:46:48] Speaker D: Yeah, thank you. And my girlfriend who lives with me now, she's a born and bred Ohio State fan as well.
[00:46:55] Speaker B: There we go.
[00:46:56] Speaker D: Member of our Browns backers chapter, even longer and stronger than I have been.
[00:47:01] Speaker A: So nice. Nice.
[00:47:02] Speaker D: We have both, you know, alliances and friendly rivalries over the weekends.
[00:47:07] Speaker A: Well, listen, college football aside, it's like politics. We just won't talk about it right now.
You are a Browns fan, so obviously we're friends.
But, you know, you. You are a pretty big Browns fan. I hear that you actually have done something special that not many people have done when it comes to the Cleveland Browns. Can you tell us about that?
[00:47:29] Speaker D: Well, back in 2002, there was this new thing on the Internet called blogs. And so I figured, I'll start a blog. I didn't see any other blogs about the Cleveland Browns, and so I adopted a pen name called Ace Davis and I started a blog and it got picked up by a website that was called Bernie's Insiders. Now it's, you know, Scout. It's in the Scout Out Network, 247 Sports.
And so I did that. Now it lives at Brown's plainly. And then after years of doing that, I'm like, I'm going to take some of the research I've done and create a book of Cleveland Brown's lists. You know, like, when I was a kid, there was this book called the Book of Lists, and it was just listicles, you know, and so I, I did that for the Browns and had an experiment in self publishing that in 2015, and it was a great experience and it's been a giveaway at our club and. And things like that. So it was a. It was a fun project.
[00:48:24] Speaker B: That's awesome.
[00:48:25] Speaker A: There is that. Where's that book available?
[00:48:27] Speaker D: Oh, it's called Brown for the Count, A Compendium of Clinton Brown's Lists. You can find it on Amazon still. I have a few boxes still in my closet, so.
[00:48:36] Speaker A: Nice. Nice.
[00:48:37] Speaker B: Dave was one of the original pioneers of social media blogging and that we now live in.
[00:48:46] Speaker A: If you really think about it, like, blogging is basically what led to podcasts. Like, that's where it started.
[00:48:51] Speaker B: It was our predecessor.
[00:48:52] Speaker A: So. Yeah. Thank you.
[00:48:53] Speaker B: So are you still blogging today, Dave?
[00:48:56] Speaker D: Not actively.
[00:48:57] Speaker A: The.
[00:48:57] Speaker D: The site is still
[email protected] and we, we have, you know, we have feeds of, you know, latest Brown's news and podcasts and everything like that. But I've moved on to other things. I. I'm a journalist and I have another business and the. The blogging is kind of like, you know, it's really.
The ecosystem has changed with social media and the immediacy of it. I don't have inside contacts with the team, so it's kind of hard to find the energy and the ideas to produce content and in that format on a regular basis anymore.
[00:49:35] Speaker A: Yeah, it gets tough in today's world.
[00:49:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Very cool, though.
[00:49:38] Speaker A: We know.
[00:49:39] Speaker B: Very cool.
[00:49:40] Speaker A: Well, listen, let's. Let's turn our attention to this weekend's game. Obviously, the Browns are coming off a huge win.
Who do you think is going to win the game this weekend, and why?
[00:49:50] Speaker D: Well, my. My heart wants the Browns to win. Of course.
I've seen A lot of both of these teams, though, and I have to pick the Lions as the stronger team right now on both sides of the ball especially. They have a great offense and so I think probably something like 26 to 12 sounds about right.
[00:50:14] Speaker A: I mean, it's hard to argue that with how we're.
And it's really frustrating and I know we're going to spend a lot of our show talking about it, but that defense is so good and we're just squandering it.
[00:50:26] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah, it's.
I'm pleasantly surprised with our rookie class overall, you know, and especially on defense. So they've been fun to watch and it's good to be back where we're having first round picks again, so there's hope for the future.
So we, you know, we kind of dug ourselves a hole over the last couple of years and we're still, to some extent, I think, feeling the hangover from that.
[00:50:50] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:50:51] Speaker B: Dave, obviously, as our boots on the ground there and behind enemy lines.
Dan Campbell's pretty cantankerous. Is he well beloved in that city right now? I mean, obviously they've had success there, but are his antics, you know, growing tired at all or is it pretty much all love there for.
[00:51:08] Speaker D: For coach as far as I can see, you know, if the team's doing well, you know, it seems like he's a players kind of coach and if he's getting the most out of his squad, you know, the. The town is behind him. You know, at some level, the shtick runs thin, you know. But I really have to applaud their late game call there to throw the ball and fourth down to put that game away. And I was just looking at Susan, my girlfriend, said that that's just the way they roll. I mean, that he's got, you know, he's got cojones.
[00:51:43] Speaker B: Yeah, that he does.
[00:51:45] Speaker A: He's got something our coach lacks, but that's a whole other story.
Well, listen, dav, would. We would love to stay on and talk to you all night. Unfortunately, you know, in order to get to the rest of our show, we only got like 10 minutes for this, so.
We really appreciate it. We hope to catch up with you if we're ever up in Michigan during a game. I hope to never go to Michigan, but if we're ever up in Michigan during a game, then we will definitely come and find you guys and hang out with the Southeast Michigan Brownsbackers, so.
[00:52:15] Speaker D: All right. We'd love to have you.
[00:52:17] Speaker A: You all right? Thanks, Dave. Appreciate it.
[00:52:22] Speaker D: We're the Southeast Michigan Brownsbackers. And you're listening to the Burning river sportscast. Go, Browns.
[00:52:33] Speaker A: Ah, good time talking to Dave from the Southeast Michigan Brownsbackers, huh?
[00:52:36] Speaker B: Dave's a G.
Look, we don't have a lot of friends.
[00:52:39] Speaker A: No, he's a d. His. Dave.
[00:52:41] Speaker B: Dave. I get it.
[00:52:42] Speaker A: He.
[00:52:42] Speaker C: It.
[00:52:42] Speaker B: Yeah. It feels like a mean thing to say to someone.
[00:52:45] Speaker A: I'm sorry, Dave.
[00:52:46] Speaker C: I thought Dave had a nice chill voice. He was just.
[00:52:49] Speaker B: Dave was a real chill guy.
[00:52:51] Speaker A: He's just a real chill guy.
[00:52:52] Speaker B: I mean, I think that's probably what made him a really successful blogger, is like, his ability to just take thoughts and words and put them down to be digestible by everyone around. Right.
Very thoughtful guy.
[00:53:02] Speaker A: I'll give you something digestible.
[00:53:04] Speaker B: I'll take you to the chocolate factory.
[00:53:07] Speaker A: What is happening, Right?
I don't know. Listen, you already heard from the macho fan at the top of the show. Now it's time to hear from brownster. Not it's time for mission control with Brownstronaut.
[00:53:19] Speaker B: T minus 10, 9, 8, 7, 6.
[00:53:24] Speaker A: 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
[00:53:29] Speaker B: Zero.
Ignition.
Lift off.
What's up, Burning river sportscasters?
[00:53:41] Speaker A: This is the brown Chinook calling in from the dog ship.
[00:53:44] Speaker B: Cleveland launches into orbit this Sunday to.
[00:53:46] Speaker A: Face the Detroit Lions. These cats may roar, but they sure don't bark.
The Browns are fueled, locked in, and ready for liftoff. Victory formation, boys.
[00:53:54] Speaker C: It's time for another upset.
[00:54:02] Speaker A: Good stuff from brownstronaut.
[00:54:04] Speaker B: I always wanted to be an astronaut.
[00:54:06] Speaker A: Who doesn't?
[00:54:06] Speaker B: I didn't have the eye.
[00:54:07] Speaker A: That's like the first. Like, isn't that the first dream of most little kids?
[00:54:10] Speaker B: Like, I felt like I was kind of alone in that.
[00:54:14] Speaker A: Like, when I was little, none of.
[00:54:15] Speaker B: My friends were like, I can't wait to grow, be an astronaut. And I was always like, I really want to go in space.
[00:54:19] Speaker A: Yeah, I did when I was little. And then I started to be afraid of heights, and I was like that.
[00:54:23] Speaker B: Space is the highest.
[00:54:24] Speaker A: It's way up there.
[00:54:25] Speaker B: It's way higher than being in a building. Bungee jumping. It's even higher than being a plane. It's as high as you can get.
[00:54:31] Speaker A: Yeah.
Up there. There's no gravity, though, so you can't fall.
[00:54:34] Speaker B: That's true. Well, you're actually. You're always falling if you're in lower Earth orbit. But that's why you stay in it, because of gravity.
[00:54:40] Speaker A: Yeah, but I'm talking in space.
[00:54:41] Speaker B: But that's. But that's. But that's what creates the weightlessness is the fact that you are free falling. You're always falling back towards the atmosphere.
That's why you get your weightless.
Oh, backs for days.
[00:54:55] Speaker A: With that, let's get into the week four preview.
[00:55:14] Speaker B: This show is so stupid.
[00:55:18] Speaker A: I don't know. Facts for Days.
What are we doing here? The best part is only people that watch our show regular, like, if tuned in the first time, they're like, why is he talking about facts for days?
All right, all right, guys. This week we've got the Detroit Lions. Kenny, give us the Cliff Notes.
[00:55:35] Speaker B: Is it time?
[00:55:35] Speaker A: It's time for Kenny's Cliff Notes.
[00:55:37] Speaker B: Kenny's Cliff's notes.
[00:55:38] Speaker A: Oh, man.
[00:55:42] Speaker B: Time for Kenny's Cliff Notes. Are you ready?
[00:55:44] Speaker A: I was going to act like I was on my phone and disrespect you the whole time.
[00:55:47] Speaker B: I would love you to disrespect me.
[00:55:50] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:55:52] Speaker B: The Browns travel to the Motor City to take on the Loins.
You get it? Like, it's like I'm dissing them.
[00:56:01] Speaker C: Is that lion switch?
[00:56:03] Speaker A: The O and the I like.
[00:56:04] Speaker B: They're just loins.
[00:56:06] Speaker A: It's the Fruit of My Loins.
[00:56:07] Speaker B: I don't think anybody else thinks it's funny, but I think it's funny.
[00:56:11] Speaker A: Do you know what movie that was from?
[00:56:13] Speaker B: What'd you say?
[00:56:14] Speaker A: He's the Fruit of My Loins.
[00:56:17] Speaker C: Stepbrother.
[00:56:18] Speaker A: No.
[00:56:19] Speaker B: Knight's Tale.
[00:56:20] Speaker C: Anchorman.
[00:56:20] Speaker B: No.
[00:56:21] Speaker A: It's Meet the Fockers.
[00:56:24] Speaker B: Good one.
The Browns travel to the Motor City to take on the Loins. Dan Campbell has 27 years of NFL experience, 16 years as a coach and 11 as a player. And he'd sooner do your mom than punt on fourth down.
[00:56:38] Speaker A: Holy. Quarterback.
[00:56:39] Speaker B: The Lions.
[00:56:40] Speaker A: Dang.
[00:56:43] Speaker B: The Lions have three, count them, three, NFL quarterbacks on their offensive coaching staff. Mark Brunel, Bruce Gradkowski and Marquez. Tuya Sapo. I remember that guy.
[00:56:52] Speaker C: No.
[00:56:53] Speaker B: You think they've prioritized to put in critical mass into that part of their game?
[00:56:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:56:58] Speaker B: Bit different than what the Browns are doing. Stacking the room with Ivy League nerds. Like, they got football players and football guys coaching up the most important position on the field.
[00:57:07] Speaker A: Look what's happening. They're, like, winning games and stuff.
[00:57:09] Speaker B: Maybe they're on to something. I don't know. Speaking of quarterbacks, Jared Goff has enjoyed a resurgence in Detroit. 4,600 yards and 37 touchdowns a year ago. Seven touchdowns to just one pitch pick so far this year, the Loins Boast a solid one two punch at running back in Jameer Gibbs. 1400 yards and 16 tighties last year and veteran punisher David Montgomery, who's averaged 4.2 yards per carry over his career and banked 25 touchdowns on his first two seasons in Detroit. I'm on Ross St. Brown as a stud at receiver Jameson Williams who caught for a thousand yards a year ago and the diminutive one Khalifa Raymond topping the charts at a whopping 558 with cleats on round out the receiver room. Sam Laporta is serviceable at tight end and the O line is anchored by two of the best tackles in the league at Taylor Decker and Penne Sewell. But the Browns may find opportunity with the inexperience in the interior. The Loins defense is consistent and one of the better units in the league. Loins I distum again. Studs all over led by Aiden Hutchinson. DJ reader Alex Anzalone. I love that name. And back Iowa high school basketball state champion Jack Sawyer lead the way. The secondary is considered one of the best in the league and Rakya Sin might rock your world.
All right, maybe not. He's not that good. I mean, he's fine, but it's mostly just a dope ass name.
Jake Bates is One of the NFL's best young kickers. Started his career with 19 straight field goals. And their punter is a Jack in the box. I mean, his name is Jack Fox. He rounds out the special specialists. Jack and Jake went up a hill to fetch a pail of, I don't know, Go Browns.
Lovely best Kenny's club notes.
[00:58:47] Speaker A: Well then that means it's time for rotting jams matchups that.
[00:59:08] Speaker B: How do you. How do you create a. A podcast? Well, you talk and you add a bunch of sounders. That's it.
[00:59:13] Speaker A: Simple.
You're welcome.
You owe us 40 bucks.
[00:59:18] Speaker B: Everybody who's listening, they gotta pay for it now.
[00:59:21] Speaker A: He can't pay. He got no. You got to pay for that type of advice.
[00:59:26] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:59:26] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:59:27] Speaker B: Oh, really? Not a podcast.
[00:59:29] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah.
Ronnie Jam's matchups that match matter. I bet you can't guess how many I got for you. Is it two? It's two.
[00:59:36] Speaker B: Oh boy.
[00:59:37] Speaker A: Number one here. Browns front seven versus Detroit's O line.
The Browns front seven is getting after this year.
[00:59:45] Speaker B: Getting after it.
[00:59:46] Speaker A: They just have five sacks this past week against Jordan Love and the Packers.
Detroit's pretty good on offense.
[00:59:53] Speaker B: Pretty good.
[00:59:56] Speaker A: We'll get to that in a minute. But they're in both facets of the game. Running and, and passing. They're. They're pretty good. So yeah, we'll.
[01:00:03] Speaker B: We'll I cover that in Kenny's.
[01:00:04] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why it leaves me nothing to say here. I just have to say what you said, but say it differently. Same takes over and over and over again.
[01:00:14] Speaker B: That's why you listen to the Burning river sportscast.
[01:00:17] Speaker A: But yeah. So I just want to see if they can continue the tear that they've been on these last couple of weeks. Miles Garrett. I'm hoping for another couple sacks.
So many sacks.
And I want to see if Mason Graham can. Can stop the run against this offensive line because is Detroit's just pretty good offensively.
[01:00:36] Speaker B: There's pretty good.
[01:00:37] Speaker A: So, yeah, they got a big task ahead of them. We'll see how it goes. And then next up here, Denzel Ward vs. Amon R.A. st. Brown.
Obviously a big matchup. Big name at wide receiver, big name at cornerback. You mentioned that they have one of the best secondaries in the league.
So do the Browns. So true. I think Denzel shuts him down.
Denzel tends to shut everybody down that he plays against.
[01:01:03] Speaker B: Lockdown on the lake.
[01:01:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
Those are my matchups that matter. In summary here, the Lions coming off a great win against the Ravens. 2. They're 2 and 1 right now.
On defense, they're number 13 overall in the NFL. Their past defense is number 15. Their run defense is number 11. On offense, they're number 3 in the NFL this year. Their running game is number 4. Their passing game is number 8.
And on the flip side, you got the Browns. We are coming off a fantastic and emotional win over the packers, but we still have a 1 and 2 record. Still not that great of a team, unfortunately.
But maybe they got some juice right now because I said last week they just seem like they have no juice. But then they won, so maybe they got some juice. I don't know.
[01:01:47] Speaker B: They didn't have it for most of the game.
[01:01:48] Speaker A: No. No.
Little bit of juice.
Yeah, he's got the juice.
And defensively, the Browns, they have the number one defense in the NFL right now.
[01:01:59] Speaker B: Number one. Number one. Number one. Like us on good pots.
[01:02:01] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. The run defense is number one. They're giving up 57.3 yards per game. And their past defense is number four, giving up only 147 yards per game.
And mind you, they just played Jordan Love in the packers and they still are only giving up 147 yards per game through the air. So true.
Offensively, still not good.
Somehow they're. They're 22 overall in the NFL. I didn't think there could possibly be 10 teams worse than the Browns on offense offenses.
[01:02:29] Speaker C: Surprising.
[01:02:30] Speaker A: It was legitimately a shocking stat to me, especially given the facts of this next thing that I'm going to say, we're averaging 13.1 points per game over the last nine games.
[01:02:38] Speaker B: So is some of that just NFL teams coming into the season just unprepared? Like, they've, like, we've shortened the preseason and we've taken out so many days of like camp and everything else from player safety.
[01:02:49] Speaker A: And I do think it. It takes.
[01:02:51] Speaker B: It's almost like the first five, six weeks of the season now are almost like get right. Like you just practice. Like they're just figuring things out before they decide if they're good or not.
[01:03:00] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. No, I think you're right. I was. You know, it just seems like since they did shorten the preseason that you're exactly right. It's like five or six weeks before we really figure out who all these teams are in the NFL, so.
But anyways, the Browns, their run game on offense, number 29 in the NFL, the passing game, number 16, which was a lot higher than I thought it would be.
But, yeah, they no longer hold the longest active losing streak in the NFL, so that's good news. True. It did not end up being a full Countdown calendar year before we got our win, so we're grateful for that. But I.
[01:03:36] Speaker B: If there was one thing I took from your entire segment, it was when you said they were on a tear.
Because I've never been wrong in my life. But there was one time I was.
And I really thought that whole sentence.
[01:03:50] Speaker A: Didn'T make sense, but go on.
[01:03:50] Speaker B: There was only one time. I grew up my whole life thinking that someone was on a terror. And one time you did point out to me, you're like, no, man, it's a terror. And like, I googled it. And I was like, shit, that was the first time I was ever wrong.
[01:04:03] Speaker A: Wait, I was the one that made you wrong?
[01:04:04] Speaker B: Yeah, you. You told me the terror was. You really explained the terror. And I was like, that can't be right. I was like, I'm never wrong.
[01:04:10] Speaker A: I didn't even know I did this. But I accept that that was the.
[01:04:12] Speaker B: Only time I was ever wrong.
[01:04:13] Speaker A: I've bested him.
[01:04:15] Speaker B: Well, one time. I mean, you. You. This is like the reverse Andrew Barry scenario. I punch you in the face every single time I see you. I'm always right. But the one time you brought me chocolate, you were. You got me. You got me on the tear. I really thought it was terror.
[01:04:27] Speaker A: Well, you Were wrong for whatever that's worth. And you're an idiot with that. It's time for bone, man.
Key to victory.
Bone.
[01:04:41] Speaker C: All right.
I got a new one.
[01:04:45] Speaker A: This is a good day.
[01:04:46] Speaker B: I'm excited.
[01:04:47] Speaker A: People are not going to listen anymore because they come here for the same takes over and over and over again.
[01:04:52] Speaker C: All right. I went back and looked at how the Green Bay packers beat the Detroit Lions in the first week of the season. You know what they did?
[01:04:59] Speaker A: Wait by the transitive property. We're definitely winning this week.
[01:05:02] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Exactly.
[01:05:03] Speaker B: I have to be. Although they beat Baltimore, who beat us. Property in reverse.
[01:05:07] Speaker A: Oh, no. We're stuck in. We're stuck in a space time continuum.
[01:05:11] Speaker B: Yeah. Tangents.
[01:05:13] Speaker C: They held Detroit under 50 yards rushing and they also got four sacks on Jared Goff.
[01:05:17] Speaker A: Will you do that?
[01:05:18] Speaker C: Which I think is something that our defense is completely capable of doing.
[01:05:21] Speaker B: That's fair. That's a good skeleton key.
[01:05:23] Speaker C: That's my key to victory.
[01:05:24] Speaker A: We have to hold them under 50 yards and get four sacks.
[01:05:27] Speaker C: Yes.
[01:05:27] Speaker A: That's not a tall task.
[01:05:29] Speaker B: We could probably get six sacks.
[01:05:31] Speaker A: We. We could.
That's a. That's a. That's pretty tough.
[01:05:35] Speaker B: But Miles could have three.
[01:05:36] Speaker A: I would agree with you. If we do that. We're probably at least answering the.
[01:05:38] Speaker C: You have a shot.
[01:05:39] Speaker A: Yeah, I'd agree. Good job. Good. This is a boat. This is a good. This is a day.
[01:05:43] Speaker B: A good day for Bone.
[01:05:44] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Kenny, you got the betting info for us?
[01:05:47] Speaker B: Yeah. What do I look like an idiot?
[01:05:50] Speaker A: You a brainless idiot.
[01:05:53] Speaker B: Line loins minus nine and a half.
[01:05:57] Speaker A: Wow.
Even after we beat the packers like that, they still come and just shit all over us.
[01:06:01] Speaker B: Over under 44 and a half.
[01:06:03] Speaker A: Why do they keep putting those up there? They probably think the Lions are going to score 44 and a half by themselves.
[01:06:10] Speaker B: Well, they. Then the line would be 44.
[01:06:14] Speaker A: Players to watch. Bone, who's your player to watch?
[01:06:18] Speaker C: Ooh. Player to watch. I am.
Oh, goodness.
[01:06:22] Speaker B: I didn't prepare.
[01:06:23] Speaker C: I'm gonna do.
You guys touched on him earlier. But I'll say Denzel Ward just matching up with Aman Raw St. Brown.
[01:06:30] Speaker A: Nice.
[01:06:32] Speaker C: Yeah. I hope Denzel just continues to lock down the best receivers in the NFL. I think he will fair.
[01:06:36] Speaker A: Kenny.
[01:06:37] Speaker B: I've got Dylan Sampson this week. We've seen that Judkins can handle the lower, but I'm still seeing way too much Jerome Ford out there. Yeah.
[01:06:49] Speaker C: Yes.
[01:06:49] Speaker A: I hope you're right here. I hope they just give the ball to Dylan Sampson.
[01:06:52] Speaker B: I liked what I saw to Sampson's hands early on in the season. I like.
[01:06:56] Speaker A: You like the way he moves his hands?
[01:06:57] Speaker B: I like his explosiveness. Oh, no.
[01:07:02] Speaker A: Sorry. We're watching the Guardians game right now and they had a for sure out and the catcher just dropped it. The. The tiger's dead. Wow, that feels bad.
[01:07:09] Speaker B: Mid sentence interruption for a game is going to be three days old by the time people.
[01:07:12] Speaker A: I'm sorry about it. Go on, Go on.
[01:07:15] Speaker B: I like his explosiveness and toughness. And I want to see more. I want to see more because we need to see Samson step up so we can finally bid adieu to Jerome Ford. To Jerome Ford.
[01:07:27] Speaker A: Fix a repair daily.
So let me get this straight.
You love how Dylan Sampson uses his hands and you love his explosiveness.
[01:07:37] Speaker B: Jack.
[01:07:38] Speaker A: And he's a jack. He's a jacker. He's a jack.
[01:07:41] Speaker B: I don't know where you're going.
[01:07:43] Speaker A: Jack of all trades.
[01:07:44] Speaker B: Something in your coffee.
[01:07:45] Speaker A: Anyways, my player to watch is Andre Schmidt.
[01:07:48] Speaker B: Schmidt.
[01:07:49] Speaker C: Schmidt.
[01:07:50] Speaker A: I think this game once again comes down to, like, we're gonna win by field goals.
[01:07:53] Speaker B: He's gonna go toe to toe with Jake Bates.
[01:07:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
You know whose kicker didn't make their first 19 field goals?
[01:08:01] Speaker B: Browns.
[01:08:02] Speaker A: That's true.
[01:08:04] Speaker B: But it is a redemption arc, my friends.
[01:08:06] Speaker A: He's on track now, so we'll see what happens there, but. All right, guys.
[01:08:09] Speaker B: Well, he's not on track to 19 of this.
[01:08:11] Speaker A: No, no, no, no. He's. He's just back on track.
[01:08:13] Speaker B: Fair.
[01:08:14] Speaker A: All right, guys, I'm excited.
It's time for Hot 3.
[01:08:19] Speaker B: Turn it up, turn it up in your lungs I'm the smoke in the sky I'm the gas in the tank.
[01:08:27] Speaker A: Going to turn it up, turn it.
[01:08:28] Speaker B: Up I'm hot to the touch.
[01:08:33] Speaker A: Burning up, burning up Half burning up.
Guys, Hot three is back.
We're back with another edition of Hot three.
[01:08:40] Speaker B: The first hot three in a while.
[01:08:41] Speaker A: First hot three of the season.
[01:08:43] Speaker B: Oh, boy.
[01:08:44] Speaker A: Hot three is simple. Everybody choose a topic. Give us your hot three or top three. Whatever you want to call. We call it Hot three for the burning sportscast. Yes, Hot three this week. Odest movies.
[01:08:54] Speaker B: Yeah, so just movies that are just like a little bizarre, a little out there, not real sure why they made it or who the target audience is.
Like somebody believed in this project at some point and made it, and we're not real sure why.
[01:09:07] Speaker A: There's a lot of those movies. So bone will start now. Do you want to start?
[01:09:12] Speaker C: I don't care. I'll start.
[01:09:13] Speaker A: You want to start? Who wants to start?
[01:09:14] Speaker B: Bone could go first.
[01:09:15] Speaker A: Bone.
[01:09:17] Speaker C: All right.
[01:09:18] Speaker A: Number one. Bone.
[01:09:20] Speaker B: Well, shoot Cubone.
[01:09:21] Speaker C: Okay, so number. This is my three. Number three.
[01:09:24] Speaker B: Yeah. We count down from three.
[01:09:26] Speaker C: Hubie Halloween.
It's also a terrible movie. It just wasn't funny. But it's an Adam sailor movie made for Netflix. I guess that's.
[01:09:36] Speaker B: I was like, what is. That Is.
[01:09:38] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:09:39] Speaker C: I thought he had to fulfill a requirement, basically. He had to make so many movies for Netflix, and I think this one was just thrown in there as a Halloween.
[01:09:45] Speaker A: I thought people like this one released.
[01:09:47] Speaker C: This movie in October, and it was so bad.
[01:09:50] Speaker B: People eat up Halloween, man.
[01:09:52] Speaker C: Yeah. I don't know if that turned into just, like, a terrible movie, but I think they even made a second one, so I don't.
[01:09:57] Speaker A: They did. It was so bad.
[01:09:59] Speaker B: They did it twice.
[01:09:59] Speaker C: Yeah. Pretty sure.
[01:10:01] Speaker A: Classic Adam Sandler.
[01:10:03] Speaker C: I had some help. I looked this one up, but I would agree with it. The happening.
[01:10:08] Speaker A: Oh, I forgot about that one.
[01:10:09] Speaker C: I just feel like the hype for the movie, it. It seemed like when I was a kid, I was just watching Mark Wahlberg's in it. Yeah.
[01:10:16] Speaker A: Oh, man. I could do Mark Wahlberg's voice in that one. Just the entire movie. What do you mean? What's going on?
[01:10:22] Speaker B: You don't sound anything like Michael.
[01:10:23] Speaker A: It's the trees.
[01:10:25] Speaker C: I don't know.
[01:10:26] Speaker B: That's a Shyamalan.
[01:10:27] Speaker A: You can't just leave us here.
[01:10:27] Speaker C: Was.
[01:10:29] Speaker A: Was M. Night Shyamalan.
[01:10:30] Speaker C: Okay.
[01:10:30] Speaker A: You can't just leave us here. What are you doing? Doing, like, the entire movie? That's how he talks.
[01:10:34] Speaker C: Yeah. Just people jumping off buildings, stabbing himself in the eyes.
[01:10:37] Speaker A: You probably like it, though, because you got to. You got to see Zoe Deschanel the whole movie, so.
[01:10:41] Speaker B: Ah, whatevs.
[01:10:42] Speaker A: You're a fan.
[01:10:43] Speaker B: I am a fan.
[01:10:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:10:44] Speaker B: Yes, man.
[01:10:45] Speaker C: All right. And I got the newer movie here that I. I saw on Amazon Prime.
I even feel just dirty saying that I watched it, but it's salt burn. And I. I've. I've talked about this with multiple salt.
[01:10:57] Speaker A: That it burns highly.
[01:11:01] Speaker C: I don't know why I kept watching. There was just multiple scenes where I'm like, this is the most disgusting thing I've ever seen in my life.
[01:11:06] Speaker A: I've got a couple of those on my list.
[01:11:08] Speaker C: Why is this happening? But it just enticed me a little bit more to keep watching, so I just kept watching. And then there was the next absurd scene where it was just like, let's just do the most disgusting thing two humans can do together. And then I'm gonna Go ahead. Or maybe not even two humans. Just a human in a pile of dirt. And you know what? And then we'll just end the movie with him running around naked. There's a schlong flopping around.
[01:11:29] Speaker A: Perfect.
[01:11:30] Speaker C: And that's how the movie's gonna.
[01:11:31] Speaker B: We should have prefaced this with spoiler alert.
[01:11:33] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:11:34] Speaker A: With his schlong flopping around.
[01:11:36] Speaker C: And then I just. I'm. I get done watching it and I'm just, yeah. Why did I watch this movie? And now everybody knows that I watched it. I feel ashamed.
[01:11:44] Speaker A: He feels ashamed. Listen, we. We talk about in the NFL, we're all for the dong throwing, but that's me and Kenny.
[01:11:50] Speaker B: I guess Phone's not for the dong flopping.
[01:11:53] Speaker C: No. It might appeal to some people.
[01:11:58] Speaker B: I feel like I need to see this movie now.
[01:12:00] Speaker C: Right?
[01:12:00] Speaker A: I'm definitely putting it on my list.
[01:12:02] Speaker C: I described this movie to a guy at work just like this. And he went and watch it. And he comes back the next day. He's like, I don't know why I watched that movie.
[01:12:10] Speaker A: It's like a train wrecks.
[01:12:11] Speaker C: You not to watch it.
[01:12:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
Yeah. Wow.
[01:12:15] Speaker B: That's awesome.
[01:12:16] Speaker A: Wow.
You wanna go last? You wanna go next?
[01:12:18] Speaker B: I can go next.
So my first one might be a little controversial because I think it's become mainstream in lighter latter years, but I'm gonna go Donnie Darko, the first one.
[01:12:31] Speaker A: I actually enjoyed that movie, but it was really fucking weird.
[01:12:34] Speaker B: Gyllenhaal, Barrymore, Gyllenhaal, sister.
[01:12:38] Speaker A: I don't know all the Gyllenhaal's tangent.
[01:12:40] Speaker B: Universes, scary bunnies, planes explode, predetermined fatalistic outcomes. Like it just was so all over the place. And very.
[01:12:48] Speaker A: I think especially for his time around me are familiar.
[01:12:54] Speaker B: But just very especially in the time it was made, like way out there.
So I don't know, like, I do enjoy it, but it's just like every time I watch it, I'm like, who came up with this?
[01:13:04] Speaker A: Did he die?
[01:13:06] Speaker B: I don't know. Do we. Do we know? Is there. Is it. Is it determined definitively?
[01:13:11] Speaker A: I don't know. I think it's. I think it's one of those movie endings. It's just like you're supposed to.
[01:13:14] Speaker C: It just became like a cult classic for like early 2000s kids who were kind of on the edge.
[01:13:19] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:13:19] Speaker A: Like.
[01:13:19] Speaker B: Oh yeah, Darko, like very hipster or I guess I don't straight edge.
[01:13:23] Speaker A: That being said, I. I wasn't any of those things. But I. I actually enjoyed that movie. It was weird. As weird as hell, but I enjoyed it.
[01:13:30] Speaker B: But very odd. So dying Darko number one or number three? Number. Number two.
Vivarium. You guys seen this? The Jesse Eisenberg vehicle.
Him and his wife, a couple moves into like an idyllic suburb. Turns out it's just a labyrinth of houses and streets that all look exactly the same.
They wake up one morning and are gifted a baby. Like a humanoid baby.
It turns out it's like a parasite eats children.
I don't know. It's just a very wild ride.
[01:13:59] Speaker A: That's messed up to package a child eating parasite as a baby.
[01:14:04] Speaker B: I just remember watching it and I felt like it was two hours of just. I don't know what happened.
Maybe I missed the point. I don't know.
[01:14:12] Speaker A: Probably did.
[01:14:12] Speaker B: Number one.
[01:14:13] Speaker A: You're not very smart.
[01:14:15] Speaker B: Number one. I gotta go with the lobster. You guys seen the lobster?
[01:14:20] Speaker A: No.
[01:14:20] Speaker C: I would add that to my list. I did not think of that. That was another one. I was like, why did I keep watching this movie?
[01:14:27] Speaker B: Just one of the most outlandish, like, where's this available?
[01:14:31] Speaker A: I got to see it.
[01:14:32] Speaker B: It's on Netflix, I think.
[01:14:33] Speaker C: Colin Farrell in that, right?
[01:14:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:14:35] Speaker C: Some other. Who's the chick in it? They're both pretty big name actors, but.
[01:14:38] Speaker B: It was one of those, like, had to be like independent film that they were like, oh, this is very artistic because it was just the. The whole premise is like a bunch of singles move into a hotel and you have to find love within 45 days. And it'd be, you don't, you're gonna get turned into an animal. And he was gonna be turned into a lobster. But from there it just devolves into absolute debauchery. A bunch of weird sex stuff. Like masturbation is banned, but you have to have sex with the maid. They go to all these weird swinger parties. There's a lot of weird naked stuff going on. Dancing.
They move out into the woods and do battle. Like a dog eats a lady.
[01:15:13] Speaker A: And I'm really not understanding this sounds like. This sounds like the type of movie you would love.
[01:15:18] Speaker C: Maybe I didn't finish this movie.
[01:15:19] Speaker B: Very bizarre all the way around.
It was just. It's just the strangest movie I've ever watched.
[01:15:26] Speaker C: And on top of it, I believe it was super slow.
[01:15:28] Speaker B: It was so slow. It was so slow. So I think it was a long. I don't remember the exact actual runtime, but I think it was longer than two hours. And it was just way too long for the premise of this film. But just very Odd. And a film that probably no one should ever watch.
[01:15:41] Speaker A: All right, great list. Yeah.
All right, I'll start mine. Number three. This also will probably be controversial because it has also become mainstream, and a lot of people point to it as a super classic movie.
A Clockwork Orange.
[01:15:58] Speaker B: That is a trippy one.
[01:15:59] Speaker C: I almost brought that up as an example for the Donnie Darko, like, acclaim.
[01:16:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:16:03] Speaker C: Just like Clockwork Orange.
[01:16:05] Speaker A: Stanley Kubrick just, like, way out there. And most of the movie. That's like, all the thoughts that you guys had during all these movies. That's kind of what I was like, why is this happening? And why. Why am I watching this? Oh, this got real graphics.
[01:16:18] Speaker B: What is.
[01:16:19] Speaker A: Is happening right now?
So, yeah, I mean, I. I.
A weird movie. I didn't necessarily hate it, but I also didn't fully understand it. So.
Can you understand it? That's the question. Probably not.
Probably not.
Number two for me. Buried. Have you guys seen this?
[01:16:38] Speaker C: That was Ryan Reynolds.
[01:16:39] Speaker A: Ryan Reynolds just in a coffin. He was a. He's a civilian truck driver in a movie. And. And the movie opens with. With him in a coffin with nothing but his cell phone and a lighter. And he calls and, like, he's trying to get help. And they're like, we don't know where you're at. And he's like, I'm buried. I'm buried. And it's two and a half hours of him just buried in a box. Like, nothing. You literally can't see anything. It's just him in a box.
[01:17:05] Speaker B: Another one where somebody was trying to be way too artistic. What if we do a whole movie? You in a box.
[01:17:10] Speaker A: Now, I will say this. I actually watched it start to finish. Finish. And. And his acting is phenomenal in this movie because he held my interest at least for two and a half hours.
[01:17:21] Speaker B: I mean, nobody said Ryan Reynolds couldn't act.
[01:17:23] Speaker C: Yeah, I was gonna say I actually watched this movie and I didn't not, not like it.
[01:17:27] Speaker A: But. But since it was.
Since it was the oddest movies, like, why was this made? That's why I included it, because I was like, I don't understand what the point of this was. Like, by the end of it, I was like, should I have watched that?
[01:17:39] Speaker B: Like, was it a giant waste of my time?
[01:17:41] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, yeah, good acting, terrible movie.
And then finally, number one, Human Centipede.
[01:17:51] Speaker B: My favorite of all time.
[01:17:52] Speaker A: The entire trilogy. Not just, like, one of them. Like, all of them. Like, why not only did they make one, they made three.
And they just kept getting weirder and weirder. I Liked specifically the second one. The guy that they kept doing the close up on his face. The fat guy. That's big, sweaty, fat.
[01:18:07] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:18:07] Speaker A: And he's just like.
Yeah, like that guy was wild. But that just. Just why? Why. And the whole time you're watching every single one of those, you think at some point you're gonna get the why. You never get the why.
[01:18:20] Speaker B: The why is so you can watch someone in someone else's mouth. That's why.
[01:18:25] Speaker A: Ew.
[01:18:26] Speaker B: That is the entire reason.
[01:18:27] Speaker A: Spoiler alert.
[01:18:29] Speaker C: Yeah, that's gross.
[01:18:30] Speaker A: Yeah, that's gross.
Yeah. So those are. Those are my. That's my hot three. I do have have a honorable mention.
The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus, which was Heath Ledgers. It was released posthumously. Heath Ledger's final movie. And they actually had to bring in all these big names, Jude Law, Colin Farrell and Johnny Depp to like be his personalities when he went into this Imaginarium because he had died. So he couldn't be. He couldn't do like all the different roles.
[01:18:59] Speaker B: That sounds like something you shouldn't even say.
[01:19:01] Speaker A: Yeah, it was. It was. It was a bad word. It was just weird.
[01:19:07] Speaker B: I was gonna say honorable mention. Pound Town Moms. That was a bad one.
[01:19:14] Speaker A: With that, let's get to the King of the North.
All right, in case anyone doesn't know by now, this is our year long AFC north pick them competition at the end of the season. Whoever comes in last place gets punished. In the preseason two years ago, Kenny had a gross of eggs thrown at him at the by fans at the in the muni lot before a game in the preseason last year, Kenny had his hair and beard shaved clean off.
Coming up for losing this past season, Kenny. Yeah, Kenny is going to get hit a few times by John Hughes. We're talking full pads, helmet, everything. You're going to get hit.
[01:19:49] Speaker B: This has to be the lowest thing that's ever happened to me. Just losing to you guys in anything three times in a row.
[01:19:57] Speaker A: How does it feel?
[01:19:58] Speaker B: Like I've. That has to be the lowest point in my life.
[01:20:01] Speaker A: Speaking of which, coming up for losing this season, somebody will have to get a full Brazilian wax. Kenny, you excited? Ain't gonna be me right now. You're. I mean, I know I'm tied with you, but we're in last place.
[01:20:13] Speaker B: My money's on Big John.
[01:20:15] Speaker A: I accept that.
But let's go. Go ahead and get into it. First things first, I want to remind everyone that Bone is the reigning defending King of the North. Where's Your crown, Bone, you never have it.
[01:20:27] Speaker C: It doesn't fit on these head.
[01:20:28] Speaker A: Just hold it up and be like, I got. I got a crown. This is my crown.
[01:20:32] Speaker C: There it is.
[01:20:33] Speaker A: It's not excited about it.
[01:20:35] Speaker B: The headphones is a good point. When I get my crown for winning this year, I need to somehow figure get it in my headphones.
[01:20:41] Speaker A: Yeah, well, you'll never get a crown. So. Second reminder, you already mentioned it. John Hughes is joining king of the north this year. He's in Mexico on an anniversary trip with his wife right now.
[01:20:51] Speaker B: Happy anniversary, John.
[01:20:52] Speaker A: Yeah. So he won't be here today. He was.
And he wasn't able to film his record a video before he. Before he left. So I'm going to be reading his pics that he sent in. I'm going to say them all wrong so he gets them all. You know, this is where the sabotage comes in. And you're talking about John losing. We're going to sabotage him today.
[01:21:10] Speaker B: John bigs the Browns in all four games.
[01:21:12] Speaker A: Yeah, you can't do that.
Lose 04. And then final reminder, Kenny's a clown.
[01:21:17] Speaker B: Thank you.
[01:21:19] Speaker A: Let's remind everybody of the current standing.
[01:21:21] Speaker B: So many reminders.
[01:21:23] Speaker A: I didn't realize there was four of them.
[01:21:24] Speaker B: Bone is the king of the North. Kenny is a clown. Let's remind everybody of the standings.
[01:21:29] Speaker A: The. The records. After week three, Bone and Big John both tied at five and five, and me and Kenny bringing up the rear at four and six as hell.
[01:21:39] Speaker B: You remind me of what I really am.
[01:21:43] Speaker A: You love Nickelback.
[01:21:45] Speaker B: I get you a quarterback, I'll take you to the jogger factory.
[01:21:50] Speaker A: I don't even know what to say to this anymore. Let's get into this week's games. The Ravens travel to Kansas City.
Bone, who you got?
[01:22:00] Speaker C: I'm gonna go KC at home.
They are 1 and 2.
[01:22:06] Speaker A: I just been doing this lately. I don't really know.
[01:22:08] Speaker C: I don't think they're gonna be one and three. I. I think they're gonna be two and two after this week.
[01:22:12] Speaker A: All right, Kenny, here you go.
[01:22:18] Speaker B: For whatever reason, just Kansas City just kind of looks a mess right now. They do. They're in Kansas City and that's a tough place to play. I'm going Baltimore. I just think Baltimore is really good. They're one and two right now. That's a. That's a team that shouldn't be one and two for as good as they are.
I think they get right first over before Kansas City does. I think, you know, Kansas City is one of those teams that can recover from one in three, but I. They're headed there.
[01:22:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
Yeah. This one's hard because the Chiefs have not been playing hard.
But the Ravens defense sucks.
Like, they're not good. True.
And so far this year in these games where it's. It's high scoring, they've lost to the. The Lions because they can't stop them. They've lost to the Buffalo. The Buffalo Bills because they can't stop them. So I think I'm with Bone. I think I'm going Chiefs in this one, which is shocking to me because I was in my head, I was like, I'm going Ravens. And then I just thought about that. I was like, they cannot stop anybody. So I'm going Chiefs in this one.
And they get back on track before the Ravens do.
And then Big John, he agrees with Kenny. He's going Ravens. He said probably the toughest pick of the week. We're seeing the magic fade from Kansas City, and he feels like the Ravens are going to take full advantage. So good pick, John.
[01:23:38] Speaker B: Good pick.
[01:23:38] Speaker A: Yeah, we're split on that as things are getting wild here.
Next up, Cincinnati travels to Denver. Kenny, who you got?
[01:23:45] Speaker B: I think Denver is a pretty good football team. The Bengals are not.
Browning is. Jake Browning is not very good, even though his girlfriend is.
The Broncos, I think, are not as bad as their record. I think they're going to be a pretty good team the rest of the season. So I'll go the Broncos over the Bengals.
[01:24:04] Speaker A: I mean, what. What else can I say? You pretty much said it all. So I'm going Denver.
Big John's also got the Broncos. He said we saw how the Bengals struggled offensively without Burrow last week. And the defense giving up almost 50 points to the Vikings backup quarterback.
[01:24:19] Speaker B: Yeah, I guess.
[01:24:20] Speaker A: True.
[01:24:20] Speaker B: Strike true.
[01:24:23] Speaker A: So he's got the Broncos. Bone, who you got?
[01:24:25] Speaker C: Also going Broncos. I'm hoping JK Dobbins gets me like 20 spot for my fantasy.
[01:24:32] Speaker A: Fair. Fair.
Next up here, Pitts hosts Minnesota. This one's also tricky because I think Pittsburgh are pretenders, but they're at home. They're playing a backup quarterback.
I'm going Pittsburgh in this one.
And it hurts to say that. Cause they're just not that good.
But that's what I'm going with. I'm feeling really. I'm not feeling confident in my picks.
[01:24:58] Speaker B: This feeling really indifferent.
[01:24:59] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
Big John, he's got the Steelers as well. He said this comes down to which team shows up ready to play and, oh, it's not at home. Oh, yeah, that's a 9:30 Ireland game in Ireland.
A lot of.
A lot of distraction comes with overseas games. That's also true. And Pittsburgh has Mike Tomlin.
[01:25:18] Speaker B: Are you second guessing yourself?
[01:25:20] Speaker A: I have since I made the pick, but I'm going to. I'm going to stick with Pittsburgh. Bone, who you got?
[01:25:26] Speaker C: Man, this is a tough one.
Carson Wentz, huh?
[01:25:32] Speaker B: Famous last words.
[01:25:33] Speaker C: Yeah, I'll go. I'll go pick Pittsburgh.
I just. I think they'll be more ready.
[01:25:39] Speaker B: Kenny, who did John pick?
[01:25:41] Speaker A: Pittsburgh.
Go Minnesota. Do it. You can flip the script this week.
[01:25:47] Speaker B: You know, Pittsburgh is who we thought they are, right? Like, we thought like, not that good.
Aaron Rodgers is trash and washed, but here they are two and one.
[01:25:58] Speaker A: That's the problem.
They find ways to win games where the Browns find ways to lose games.
[01:26:04] Speaker B: Go.
I'm going Vikings overse in their. In their homeland.
[01:26:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
Think about that.
[01:26:13] Speaker B: They are.
[01:26:13] Speaker A: They're the home team now, Eric.
[01:26:16] Speaker B: The Red and all. I'll go Vikings.
[01:26:18] Speaker A: Dang. It's gonna get wiggity this week.
I was considering changing, but I didn't. I'm. I'm keeping my pick. I'm going.
I feel really bad.
I feel really bad.
And then finally the Browns head to Detroit to take on the Lions. Big Giants. John says this game is going to be one in the trenches. And it will be the Browns defensive front's biggest test yet this year.
And he's going with the Browns.
I believe he said 13 to 10. Let me check his.
He's going with the Browns 1613. I apologize.
That's shocking. I'm shocked.
[01:26:58] Speaker B: I'm shocked. Cotton, It's a bold strategy. See if it pays off.
[01:27:04] Speaker A: Yeah. Kenny. I'm sorry, Bone. Who you.
[01:27:08] Speaker C: I can't do it. Detroit's at home.
I think the Browns will play. Play them really tough, especially just because our defense is going to. They're going to show up.
They've shown up every week.
I think our offense will do a little bit more this week. So I'm going Detroit 2217.
[01:27:28] Speaker A: Kenny, who you got?
[01:27:30] Speaker B: Look, Detroit is really good.
They just beat Baltimore, who pretty well dismantled us.
They have a high potent offense.
Defense is. Is really good.
Even their kicker is really good. They're playing in the dome in Detroit.
I don't see any other way that this goes. Except for Brown's defense is really good and super legit. And they hold that running game to under 60 yards and Jared Goff to under 200. And the Browns win this thing 2320, baby.
Whoa.
[01:28:12] Speaker A: Whoa.
Is it.
[01:28:15] Speaker B: It's a game they have no business winning, so that's why they'll win it.
[01:28:18] Speaker A: This is wild.
Yeah, I don't think so. I'm going to go Detroit in this one, and I do think it's going to be a low scoring game.
I think it's going to be fairly close.
But I'm kind of right on track with Bone. He actually picked my score that I was going to take, so I'm not going to take that score. And I'm going to go 21:17 Detroit.
So. And I do want to amend something that we said in the last few episodes because I went back and checked our notes from last year. The scores are not the first tiebreaker.
The first tiebreaker is your Browns record.
[01:28:53] Speaker B: Fair.
[01:28:54] Speaker A: That's why it's on the plaque on the lower third when we do True King of the North. So.
But scores are still important because that's the second tiebreaker. Yeah.
But. Yeah. So I got Detroit 2117.
This is. I. I agree. I mean, they've got momentum right now, and momentum is a hard thing to judge in the NFL. But so does Detroit. Detroit just beat the Ravens. So I don't know.
[01:29:15] Speaker B: I think we're going to see.
[01:29:16] Speaker A: We're going to get the four sacks that Bone talked about and there's going to.
[01:29:19] Speaker C: I think so.
[01:29:20] Speaker B: I think there's going to be six. Six? Hell, yeah, there's going to be six.
I think the wild card in this is Cleveland Browns corner quarterback. I think there's a lot of pressure right now and I think Stefanski is terrified to make that move for a thousand reasons.
One of those being maybe apparently Dylan Gabriel isn't. Isn't ready.
[01:29:41] Speaker A: But I am getting good vibes from Cleveland right now, though, because we're watching the Guardians game as we do is, and they're up 5:1. So.
[01:29:48] Speaker B: Yeah. Just feels like a Cleveland sweep of Michigan this week.
Hate Michigan, but I think that obviously could change things in a lot of different directions. But I think this is going to be the best offensive performance that you're going to see out of the Browns this year. Because it has to be.
[01:30:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:30:04] Speaker B: This offense has to get right and they're going to. They're going to do whatever changes. Like this is your last chance to make a change with Joe Flacco, make it work and prove to everybody that you're not.
[01:30:13] Speaker A: If he throws for 130 yards again, he has to be done. You can't go any other direction.
[01:30:18] Speaker B: Joe's going to be ready. I think Kevin's going to be ready to mix it up. I think this offense is going to do more than they have all year this week because it's the last chance you got.
[01:30:26] Speaker A: Yeah, that's fair.
If they don't and they don't make the switch. Yeah.
[01:30:30] Speaker B: If you score 13 points again and Joe Flacco looks terrible like you're just, you're going to be on, you're going to be on the hot.
[01:30:35] Speaker C: If you score 13, you're going to lose your defense.
[01:30:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:30:37] Speaker B: You're going to lose your job.
[01:30:39] Speaker A: Yeah. If you score 13 points again and Joe Flacco looks like garbage, our show next week is going to be lit.
So tune in for that.
But with that, let me remind everybody to call the burner sports guys, don't forget to go and leave your hot takes on the hot take hotline. Remember, these are hot takes.
[01:30:57] Speaker B: We want hot takes. We want hot takes.
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[01:31:21] Speaker B: We will be live on Sunday night. Look for us live on YouTube, Facebook and X as we recap the week four big victory against the loins.
[01:31:30] Speaker A: You love that joke. It just going to the well over.
[01:31:34] Speaker B: And over and over again.
We'll probably be on around 9:30 and then next Thursday we'll be back with the Week 5 preview for the big London game against the Minnesota Vikings.
[01:31:46] Speaker A: Oh you're from London. Utah.
[01:31:51] Speaker B: Colonial America.
[01:31:53] Speaker C: Wait, so are we is Minnesota playing in London two weeks in a row?
[01:31:57] Speaker A: Yeah, I didn't even talk about this. Bonus around the NFL the Minnesota Vikings are going to play in Ireland this week and then London the following week. They become the first NFL team to play back to back games not only abroad but in different countries.
[01:32:13] Speaker B: That is a trial balloon. An absolute trial balloon because they're trying to see trying to see if we can put a team over there expansion if we could do because could this work?
[01:32:22] Speaker C: I mean I imagine they're staying there the entire two weeks.
[01:32:24] Speaker A: Yeah, they are.
[01:32:25] Speaker B: You know which lines up perfectly for this Browns team to win three games in a row with Minnesota just jet lagged and eating Irish sausage and Guinness all week.
[01:32:36] Speaker A: Yeah. Tell them about our brownsb group smashed oh yeah.
[01:32:39] Speaker B: We're going to talk to the British bulldog Brownsbackers. British. British Bulldog.
[01:32:43] Speaker A: A Brownsbackers group based in London.
[01:32:45] Speaker B: Based in London or alliteration aside.
[01:32:48] Speaker A: Yeah, I'll take my chances.
[01:32:51] Speaker B: The floor.
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[01:33:19] Speaker B: Four facts for days.
[01:33:34] Speaker A: Let's hear them.
[01:33:34] Speaker B: Are you ready?
[01:33:35] Speaker A: I think so.
[01:33:36] Speaker B: Number one.
[01:33:37] Speaker A: Wait. Should I prepare more?
Are you scared sometimes?
I'm not scared right now. Go ahead.
[01:33:45] Speaker B: I don't think you should be scared.
[01:33:46] Speaker A: Okay. Go ahead.
[01:33:47] Speaker B: They're just facts, man.
[01:33:48] Speaker A: They're just facts.
[01:33:49] Speaker C: Just the facts.
[01:33:49] Speaker A: You already gave us one today. Something about gravity. I don't know.
[01:33:52] Speaker B: Hey, you're always in free fall.
[01:33:53] Speaker A: I don't know. Gave me a bunch of crap about not listening. I wasn't really paying attention.
[01:33:56] Speaker B: Number one.
Alaska.
Home to the venerable Sarah Palin.
[01:34:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:34:05] Speaker B: Is the largest US State.
That's a fact for you.
You weren't sure.
[01:34:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:34:11] Speaker B: It is so vast and sparsely populated that the population density is roughly equivalent to if there were only 29 people living in all of Manhattan.
Consider that.
[01:34:28] Speaker A: Wow.
[01:34:29] Speaker B: Wow.
[01:34:31] Speaker C: There's a lot of land up there.
[01:34:32] Speaker A: That's a good fact.
[01:34:33] Speaker B: Does that blow your mind a little?
[01:34:35] Speaker A: Blow something.
[01:34:37] Speaker B: I'll take you to the jogger factory.
Number two.
[01:34:42] Speaker A: I don't know why you keep taking me there.
[01:34:49] Speaker B: If the Earth doubled in size.
[01:34:51] Speaker A: That's big.
[01:34:52] Speaker B: Imagine that.
But just in an instant. It doubled in size.
[01:34:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:34:57] Speaker B: All the trees on Earth would immediately fall over.
[01:35:02] Speaker A: Why?
[01:35:03] Speaker B: Because the surface gravity.
[01:35:06] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:35:06] Speaker B: Would double.
[01:35:08] Speaker A: Is this where you got your free fall factor?
[01:35:09] Speaker B: This is how you knew it.
[01:35:10] Speaker A: You were looking up gravity and then you came up with this one.
[01:35:12] Speaker B: I watched a lot of stuff. Star Talk with Neil Tyson degrasse.
[01:35:14] Speaker A: Yeah. This is not an ad.
[01:35:16] Speaker B: Would also mean that. Yeah. Not an ad.
Any dog sized and larger animals would not be able to effectively move without breaking their legs.
That's how strong the gravity would be.
[01:35:30] Speaker A: Ow.
[01:35:32] Speaker B: That includes us. Because we're bigger than dogs.
[01:35:34] Speaker A: That's not. That's not. That wouldn't be good.
[01:35:36] Speaker B: Crushed number three real bad.
[01:35:39] Speaker A: I hope that doesn't happen.
[01:35:40] Speaker B: This is my favorite fact of the day, by the way.
There is a actually a word for someone who gives their opinion about something they know nothing about.
Ultra crepidarian is someone who voices thoughts well beyond their expertise.
[01:36:00] Speaker A: That's what Bone does all the time.
[01:36:01] Speaker B: I was gonna say that's a Burning river sports game.
[01:36:04] Speaker A: Sorry, Bone, I called you out personally.
I always on Kenny. I had to change it up for a minute, you know.
[01:36:09] Speaker B: Yeah, that was mean.
[01:36:11] Speaker C: Yeah, I didn't even know I did that.
[01:36:12] Speaker B: Bow's the most thoughtful person on the show.
[01:36:14] Speaker A: Bone, you should be a better friend like Kenny. Cuz when I on you, he said that was mean. Don't do that. Bonus, when I on Kenny, he's just like, I don't know so often.
[01:36:25] Speaker B: Bone has the longest tenure in college football out of anyone on the show.
[01:36:29] Speaker A: That's fair. Yeah, yeah.
[01:36:30] Speaker B: True college football stud.
And then, my friends, is facts for days.
[01:36:37] Speaker A: All right, Bone, what do you think about that?
It's an awkward ending to the show.
[01:36:43] Speaker C: Well, here we go.
You told me I was wrong earlier about the. The. The Tigers and the Indians being in the postseason one as a wild card team.
That is incorrect, my friend.
Everybody today was talking about how the if the Cleveland wins the division. Division. They are most likely going to be playing the Detroit Tigers in the first round of the playoffs.
[01:37:01] Speaker A: Oh, well.
[01:37:04] Speaker C: Who doesn't know what they're talking about?
[01:37:06] Speaker B: You've been fact checked.
Finally fact checked. You.
[01:37:10] Speaker A: We backed this guy.
[01:37:12] Speaker B: He wasn't gonna actually look up any other facts that we need to fact check.
[01:37:14] Speaker A: But that one he was on, he's definitely fired.
[01:37:18] Speaker C: I didn't. I actually didn't fact check that. That was just from like personal experience. Just think I heard today.
[01:37:22] Speaker A: Oh, this is just anecdotal astute obstacle.
What is. What is that word you just used?
[01:37:30] Speaker B: Ultra crepidarian.
[01:37:31] Speaker A: He's an ultra crappian. I was right.
[01:37:33] Speaker C: You're an.
[01:37:34] Speaker A: Ultimately it came true.
[01:37:35] Speaker B: You're an ultra crapper.
[01:37:36] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know what that means, but Bone.
[01:37:42] Speaker C: Ah, you.
[01:37:43] Speaker A: You pretty tired?
[01:37:44] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm worked up now, so I'm not going to bed. But no coffee. Bon appetit. Good night. Good night, my friends.
[01:37:50] Speaker B: Don't be a part of the problem. B. The whole damn problem.
[01:37:54] Speaker A: And only you can prevent river fires.
[01:37:59] Speaker B: Burning River Sports kids.
Burning river.
[01:38:03] Speaker A: Burning River Sportscast.
[01:38:05] Speaker B: Join us. Oh, we don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan.
[01:38:10] Speaker A: The whole state of Michigan.
[01:38:12] Speaker B: The whole state of Michigan. We don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan. Cause we're from Ohio. Oh, yo, you didn't finish the song.
[01:38:24] Speaker A: We only give a damn for the Browns backers in Michigan. That's it.
[01:38:27] Speaker B: That's fair. We like that guy.
[01:38:29] Speaker A: Everybody else.
[01:38:33] Speaker B: Good night, Cleveland. Good night, Cleveland.
[01:38:36] Speaker C: Good night there, sir.
[01:38:39] Speaker A: Quiet on set. I now have two loves in my life.
Big city living and a voodoo woman named Phyllis. I didn't think we'd be getting into Brad Pitt's ass.
[01:38:53] Speaker B: I can't even say I didn't think we'd be getting into Brad Pitt's ass.
[01:38:57] Speaker A: Yeah, didn't think we'd get in there.
[01:38:59] Speaker B: We talk a lot of analingus on this show.
[01:39:02] Speaker A: So put your right foot in and take your right foot out. Then put your right foot in. In and shut the hell up. Because it's not time for the hokey pokey. It's time for the burning river. Sports cat. Motorboat. You play the motorboat?
You motorboat?
[01:39:17] Speaker B: Son of a. You old seal. Are you. You know, I was thinking during that interview.
[01:39:21] Speaker A: What? What were you think? Nothing. Cuz you don't have thoughts? Cuz you're a brainless idiot.
[01:39:25] Speaker B: Wow.
[01:39:26] Speaker A: My name is Utred. Son of Utred, by the way. I want my foreskin back. It doesn't matter.
[01:39:31] Speaker B: What Women's guide to to anal sex and it was the second edition. Who makes that second edition?
[01:39:39] Speaker C: The weather outside is weather.
[01:39:41] Speaker A: The other one. The finger. The finger. Eating food. Fingers. Oh my God. My ass is full of.
[01:39:48] Speaker B: Everywhere.
[01:39:49] Speaker C: Yes.
[01:39:49] Speaker B: Ejaculate all over my body and my genitals.
[01:39:52] Speaker C: Yes.
[01:39:52] Speaker B: Oh no.
We suck again.
[01:39:55] Speaker C: You don't need fundamentals when you got heart.
[01:39:59] Speaker B: And Jesus.
[01:39:59] Speaker A: And Jesus.
[01:40:00] Speaker C: That's right.
[01:40:01] Speaker A: Touchdown.
[01:40:02] Speaker C: Number one.
[01:40:02] Speaker B: What do you mean funny? Funny how? How am I funny?
[01:40:04] Speaker A: It's going down. I'm yelling.
[01:40:07] Speaker B: Timber.
[01:40:10] Speaker A: Should we start a meat podcast? Like. Like, like the meat pod Slow roasted.
The leads are weak leads are weak leads.
[01:40:23] Speaker B: A week that we should send a team of oil core drillers a la Armageddon to Mars to have them access the newly discovered reservoirs of water traps 7 to 12 miles under the surface that when released will cover the entirety of everything on the planet. Less than a mile high.
[01:40:33] Speaker A: All I do is win, win, win, no matter what. Erroneous. Erroneous on both counts. I mean, when I last year when I won and went home, you know, my wife's pants hit the ground wow.
[01:40:44] Speaker B: But damn, I'm sorry I hijacked your segment for a second to do some good podcasting.
[01:40:50] Speaker A: You know why, mister?
[01:40:51] Speaker B: Because you drove a Hyundai to get here tonight.
[01:40:54] Speaker A: I drove an $80,000 BMW. That's my name. I think we've officially lost all of our more conservative viewers, so I don't think they want to listen any longer.
[01:41:06] Speaker C: It's Mother Nature.
[01:41:07] Speaker A: I live my life a quarter mile at a time.
[01:41:09] Speaker B: Where's logo girl when you need her?
[01:41:11] Speaker A: I desperately want to make love this cheese.
[01:41:12] Speaker B: We need cheese girl now. Down goes Anderson. Down goes Anderson. Who's canceled now?
Who's canceled now?
[01:41:21] Speaker A: Probably me.
[01:41:21] Speaker B: You making a photo of fat people?
[01:41:24] Speaker A: I'm not just you.
[01:41:26] Speaker B: We're a whole race, basically.
[01:41:29] Speaker A: No way. You're just straight. Just finger bang their salad.
[01:41:35] Speaker C: You first get shocked and then you get the shocker.
[01:41:41] Speaker B: You like to see almost naked.
[01:41:42] Speaker A: That's cool, man.
[01:41:43] Speaker B: Whatever.
[01:41:43] Speaker C: No, no, no, no, no.
[01:41:45] Speaker A: Most people like they're driving along and they're like in between meals, they're like, I'm a little hungry. I'm going to have a granola bar. It's like, I need a cheeseburger.
Are you not entertained?
Are you not entertained?
[01:41:58] Speaker B: Is this not why you were here?
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