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[00:01:10] Speaker B: It's time. Time for the Burning River Sportscast.
Shador Sanders gets his first start as an NFL rookie and very predictably looks leaps and bounds better than Dylan Gabriel ever has. Ask yourself, is this a coincidence or is it the result of careful planning and development of young talent? I would contest neither. From the moment they were drafted, all through OTAs, all through training camp, all through the preseason and all year long, what we witnessed on Sunday is what we have all known all along. Shador Sanders has the stature and the skill set to play in the NFL. What's his ceiling? That we don't know. But at bare minimum, we knew he was better than Dylan Gabriel. We knew it then, we know it now. In fact, we've always known. The only one who apparently had no idea is the guy whose job it is to decide who the best players are. And that guy is still here. He's wrong. He's a cancer and he's gotta go. We'll break it all down for you next on the Burning River Sportscast.
[00:02:17] Speaker C: Max Crosby can eat shit. Screw that guy. Max Cosby. Screw him, man. He's a bum. Man, screw it. Let's go, let's go, let's go.
[00:02:29] Speaker B: Jerry.
[00:02:30] Speaker C: Jeudy, what in the world are you doing? Just stopping, Taking a break. Waiting for. For. For, like, a bus to come and help him, like, get to the end zone.
[00:02:39] Speaker B: He doesn't have the same proclivity for strippers or in prostitutes, allegedly, but he's certainly in the conversation.
[00:02:46] Speaker A: Speaking of Shador, good segue, guys.
It's like you guys read the notes or something.
[00:02:50] Speaker B: I was riding one yesterday.
[00:02:52] Speaker A: Dylan Segway. Thank you.
I hate you.
[00:02:57] Speaker B: I guess this is good. I'm gonna definitely have diarrhea later.
[00:03:01] Speaker A: Next up here, Jamar Chase said last week he didn't spit on Jalen Ramsey, and this week he issued an apology for spitting on.
[00:03:08] Speaker D: So I actually have a little funko pop of Baker Mayfield that we got in our white elephant gift exchange. And he sits in my little breezeway and he haunts me.
[00:03:16] Speaker A: Pop it. Spin it. Pull it.
[00:03:19] Speaker E: Lick it.
[00:03:19] Speaker A: Tug it.
[00:03:20] Speaker B: Slide it.
[00:03:21] Speaker A: Push it.
[00:03:22] Speaker E: Whack it.
[00:03:26] Speaker B: Welcome into the Burning River Sportscast presented by the fine folks at Tap in Media. I'm Kenny Thunder, seated today beside a man who hasn't had a solid bowel movement in six years. He's red hot Ronnie.
Not on the board today. He's always regular. A regular Jabroni. He's the big bone man. Bone.
What's the best thing about Switzerland?
[00:03:47] Speaker A: More like Jaboni.
[00:03:48] Speaker E: Ah, the mountains. The Alps.
[00:03:50] Speaker B: It's a good guess. I honestly don't know. But I do know the flag is a big plus.
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All kinds of stuff in there. Some Shador stuff in there. Check it out. Get your Shador stuff today on the show. This is what you look forward to. Hot takes from the Hot Take hotline. The Browns brief.
More messages from Macho fan and Brownster. Not the division roundup. And King of the north with John Hughes, an interview with another Brownsbackers chapter. Unfortunately, the Northern California Brownsbackers couldn't join us as planned.
[00:04:59] Speaker B: They made me a liar.
[00:05:00] Speaker A: They did. But that's okay because tonight we've got the Bend Browns backers taking their place.
[00:05:07] Speaker B: Bend, Oregon.
[00:05:08] Speaker A: Yes. And of course, the week 13 preview for the game against the 49ers.
Wait, listen.
Do you guys hear that?
[00:05:19] Speaker E: What is it?
[00:05:19] Speaker A: You guys hear it?
Sounds like we're right on schedule.
Let's get. Let's get things started with the Burning river news story of the week.
All right, so this week's burning of a news story of the week. Apparently we've got Some news about art this week. Is that right, Kenny?
[00:05:50] Speaker B: We do, yeah.
[00:05:51] Speaker A: What is it?
[00:05:53] Speaker B: So I just thought this was interesting.
The Keelung Museum of Art. This would be in Taiwan, of course, is running a. An exhibition right now and it is called We Are Me, which features works made from building materials and household objects.
Apparently as a part of this exhibit, there is a mirror that has been collecting dust for 40 years. Over 40 years with a small kind of smudge wiped out in the middle and meant to in some way represent the distortion of the middle class globally.
[00:06:37] Speaker A: Are too deep for me.
[00:06:39] Speaker B: Economic art, I guess, but essentially. A janitor walking by, Do Gooder thought, there's a dirty mirror.
Clean this sucker.
[00:06:50] Speaker A: Oh no.
[00:06:51] Speaker B: Wiped it down with some toilet paper. And work of art has been ruined.
[00:06:56] Speaker A: The best part is two things. One, dude's just doing his job. Not everybody hates him.
And two, he didn't even do his job well.
[00:07:04] Speaker B: No, he just grabs.
[00:07:06] Speaker A: Let me clean this up a little bit. Even get Windex. Nothing like, come on.
[00:07:10] Speaker B: Keelan Culture and Tourism's bureau says it has apologized to the artist, but they do now face coughing up compensation for the damage.
[00:07:20] Speaker A: Oh, art gets expensive, man.
[00:07:23] Speaker B: I mean, this was even a mirror.
[00:07:24] Speaker A: That the dude just hung there.
[00:07:25] Speaker B: This was a 40 year project this guy's been working on.
Ruined in an instant by toilet paper.
[00:07:32] Speaker A: It feels bad. What does that amount to? What's the. Does it give you a dollar figure?
[00:07:35] Speaker B: There isn't one listed, but I mean, I have to imagine if you work.
[00:07:38] Speaker A: On something for four years. What's that museum called?
[00:07:40] Speaker B: Probably want some money back. The Keelung.
It's the Keelung shoot.
It's not actually called the Keelung Art Museum, but it's. There's a museum of art inside of like the Cultural Arts center, apparently.
[00:07:55] Speaker A: Well, get there while you can because I'm sure they'll be out of business in the next year or so once they pay damages. Yeah. So if you haven't been there, go there. I think it's got like three stars on.
[00:08:06] Speaker B: That was TripAdvisor.
[00:08:08] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:08:08] Speaker B: They said that the exhibits were not named and there was hardly anything going on there and it wasn't worth visiting. But they still gave it three stars strong. I guess the point of this story.
[00:08:18] Speaker A: Is the worst museum I've ever been to. Average. Average.
[00:08:21] Speaker B: I guess the point of this story is next time you walk past a dirty mirror, think twice.
[00:08:25] Speaker A: Don't wipe it off.
[00:08:26] Speaker B: Think twice before. Take action.
[00:08:27] Speaker A: I think I'm gonna use this in my household. I'm never gonna clean anything Ever again.
[00:08:30] Speaker B: And I'm gonna be like, tell your wife it's art. I'm just.
[00:08:32] Speaker A: This is my art.
If you touch it, I'll be mad at you.
[00:08:36] Speaker B: All that toothpaste back spray.
[00:08:37] Speaker E: Exactly. Years of toothpaste back spray.
[00:08:41] Speaker A: Think about how good that would be.
[00:08:42] Speaker B: And shaving bits from your face that gets stuck on there. Yeah, yeah.
[00:08:46] Speaker A: Art. Art.
Fine art.
[00:08:48] Speaker B: Fine art.
[00:08:48] Speaker A: Fart.
[00:08:49] Speaker B: Fart.
[00:08:52] Speaker A: One more thing. Before we get to the Browns, let me remind you to call the burning sportscast.
Don't forget to call. Leave your hot takes on the hot take hotline. Before you call and leave your hot takes on the hot take hotline, let's. Let's listen to some hot takes that we. I don't know how to take hotline. Kenny. What do you got? What do you got? What do you got?
[00:09:09] Speaker B: Let's do that. Let's do that.
[00:09:10] Speaker C: Gentlemen, guess who finally stayed for the entire game.
It's Kevin Wish.
Not angry Bobby. Not angry Bobby. And my boy Kyle.
Kt.
So we're calling in. Obviously, we had a win, so we're.
[00:09:31] Speaker A: In a pretty good mood.
[00:09:32] Speaker C: But I. I was. I was happy with your door.
My hot take is, though, does him holding the ball or. Or should I say him holding the ball for so long gonna affect his game in the long. The long run? Because he. He still. I felt like he still had a lot of time where he held the ball because he got rid of it. Could have rushed for a little bit of yards, but I felt like he really held onto the ball for a good amount of time. And I don't know where we go from here, but I wasn't mad at what I saw.
But my hot take is, what the hell was Jerry Judy doing on that freaking play? We were, like, so excited when he caught the ball, and then we have no idea what the hell he was doing.
It was 12 possessions in a row where we could not score a point.
Like we. We. I said to Scott a little time ago, somehow we're still up by 11 points. And that was like Abedi said, that was still. We needed to score more points.
All right, Kyle, any hot takes as an outsider?
Honestly, I think for a first start, Chidora did not do too bad. Obviously not a stellar performance, but by no means a bad performance. They got the job done. Then again, we're talking about the Raiders. They're not bad, and they kind of are bad, but they're not. They're not horrible. They're.
They're an average bad football team in today's NFL. I Think the Browns had some grit today, man. I will admit I liked what they did on offense.
I mean, there were some drives where it looked kind of an edict, but there was some drives where it looked good.
[00:11:20] Speaker E: Quinte.
[00:11:20] Speaker C: Sean Judkins, he actually got today. He was a dog today. Too much wildcat, though. I'm gonna add to that. Too much wildcat offense. There's definitely some pieces that can build upon. What about Dylan Sampson? Dylan Sampson, he had a huge breakaway run, man. Dylan Sampson looked great. Tennessee product.
I'm a big fan of that guy. Look, we'll see what happens the rest of the year.
This is a building block game for the Browns going forward.
[00:11:49] Speaker B: And I will say one more thing.
[00:11:52] Speaker C: Max Crosby can eat shit. Screw that guy.
Screw him, man. He's a bum, man.
[00:12:00] Speaker A: Screw it.
[00:12:00] Speaker C: Let's go, let's go, let's go.
Max Garncy. All right, Jay, Always a pleasure. We'll see you next week in Cleveland.
[00:12:09] Speaker A: Their message was so long, they got cut off this week.
I have a couple of. Couple things right out the gate that I was taking note of. One, I like how the first thing they say is, he's not angry, Bobby this week. And then everything he said was angry.
He's mad at everything.
Sucks. I hate Max Crosby. Crosby.
[00:12:27] Speaker B: The hell with that guy.
[00:12:29] Speaker A: So there was that.
Kevin, nice to see that your soft ass stayed for a whole game.
I'm glad to see that when the Browns win, you can actually watch them.
[00:12:40] Speaker B: I like just how that call built momentum. Like, it was just like they're. They're clearly, like, in the car, driving home, and just one guy's talking. Then. Then we had a second voice and a third voice, and then by the end of it, everyone is just yelling, and it's devolved into complete chaos.
[00:12:53] Speaker A: It's kind of like our show.
But no. So, Kevin, I'm glad you stayed for the whole game. Your question was him holding on to the ball. Is it gonna be a problem?
I think that was a gist of the question.
Two things. One, our offensive line is ass. Like, it doesn't matter how long he holds onto the ball, he's still going to get sacked multiple times every game. And two, the alternative is Dylan Gabriel.
[00:13:18] Speaker B: So I think there was marked improvement from the. The half against Baltimore to the. The game he played this weekend in terms of one of those things that he does need to clean up, which is holding onto the ball because he does do that, and that's what's going to get him in trouble. But that's also a part of his game. Right. The best plays we saw on Sunday were when the play broke down and he created and was imaginative with his offense because that's the type of player that he is. So a lot like, like a Ben Roethlisberger, like that's a part of his game. And so I think it's always going to be a potential downfall to his game too, because he is going to take sacks that way. But I think that hopefully is the, the good outweighs the bad and he's able to make enough plays when that happens that if he does get sacked a couple times a game and those are bad and those are drive killers, that he's also going to turn some of those high risk, high reward type of plays into points.
[00:14:12] Speaker A: Yeah. And yeah, I mean, I, I would agree with you and I think he did get better with it. But again, I just. Regardless, my point is the alternative is Dylan Gabriel.
[00:14:21] Speaker B: So I mean, frankly, like, to be fair, he only threw the ball 20 times and probably three to four, four of those were just throwaways where he threw it out of bounds or threw it at the ground because the play was covered up or the screen was busted or whatever the case is. So the, the amount of attempts that he had to even hold on to the ball too long.
[00:14:38] Speaker E: Minimal.
[00:14:38] Speaker B: Were minimal in that game.
[00:14:39] Speaker E: I think he only took one sack for the.
[00:14:41] Speaker B: Yeah, he did only take one sack. So for this offensive line being as bad as it is and Shador, you know, having that, that, that part of his game where he is holding onto the ball a little bit and drifting a little bit like it didn't hurt the BROWNS necessarily this week.
[00:14:54] Speaker A: 1. And I guess where I was going, my, that's my argument to pretty much everybody is like, that's the one knock I've seen on him that I would agree with. He does hold onto the ball a little bit too long. But again, what's the alternative?
[00:15:06] Speaker B: But I actually thought outside of the plays that broke down, I thought he did a good job of getting the ball out of his hand quickly.
[00:15:11] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:15:11] Speaker B: On. On the plays that are in Kevin Savansky's offense that require the time. I thought he did a good job of unloading the ball.
[00:15:17] Speaker A: Like you said, marked improvement.
[00:15:18] Speaker B: They had at one point during the game they had run a.
Basically a shot clock timer because they compared last week where he was holding the ball three and a half or so seconds long in the pocket to this week he was. He had launched a couple of them under two seconds.
[00:15:33] Speaker A: So I also maintain if it leads to some of the plays, like when he got outside the pocket and threw downfield for 50 yards, like, fair, whatever, fine.
[00:15:40] Speaker B: I thought it was interesting. The Bobby made the point about the successive drives, 12 drives, I think he said, where we had no points and he said we need to score more points. I guess I take umbrage with that because you didn't need to score more points because they scored enough to win.
So I don't need any more points. Would I have liked to see more points? Would I have liked to see a more aggressive offense? Do I think Shador is capable of a more aggressive offense? 100%, but I think that was intentional. I think they took their foot off the gas pedal basically from the time they were up 14 nothing early in the game.
The game plan was, we don't want to put too much on Shador, as evidenced by the fact that as soon as I got to the red zone, they went straight into the Wildcat. They didn't want him to have to play in those high leverage situations, so they weren't going to put a lot on his plate in terms of having to throw the ball a whole lot trying to push and score a bunch of points because they weren't in a dog fight. They were comfortable with the lead and they said, yeah, we're going to kind of just eat away a clock. I mean, let's be real. By the middle of the third quarter, that game was over. Las Vegas had no chance.
[00:16:39] Speaker A: Their offense, it didn't even look like they were trying anymore.
[00:16:41] Speaker B: Their offense couldn't get around our pass rush, so they weren't going to score.
[00:16:45] Speaker A: Defense had 10 sacks.
[00:16:45] Speaker B: The defense had 10 sec. I mean, that game was over for all intensive purposes. So, yeah, they didn't need to score a bunch of extra points. I would have. They could they have tried and scored four. I mean, geez, Kevin Stefanski put it on the 29 yard line.
[00:16:57] Speaker E: Yes.
[00:16:58] Speaker B: I mean, we talked about this.
[00:17:01] Speaker A: It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. And like, nobody's accusing you of running up the score if you kick a field goal right there. Like, what the. What the is wrong?
[00:17:08] Speaker B: That was the normal thing to do. It was like a 46 yarder. You put the three points on the board and give them a ball. The ball back. You don't have to expedite.
[00:17:14] Speaker A: It's things like that that just make me hate Stefanski even more because, like, is that a. Like I'm so smart and. And whatever.
[00:17:23] Speaker B: They asked him about that specifically in the press conference this week, and his Answer was he was. He was trying to accelerate the end of the game.
That. That was his answer.
[00:17:32] Speaker E: So why not get your young kicker another shot in the NFL?
[00:17:37] Speaker A: How does that make any sense? Like, you're just gonna kick it off and it's gonna be the same time, Bowman.
[00:17:42] Speaker B: I think that would be something you're trying to do if you're trying to develop young talent. Yeah, like, more reps, more game reps in a game that doesn't matter. Kick, that doesn't matter. But clearly that's not on Stefanski's list of priorities.
[00:17:53] Speaker A: I'm gonna be honest. Every time Kevin Stefanski gives an answer to anything, I go back to a couple weeks ago, and we said, did he cheat his way. Did he cheat his way through Ivy League education? Because that guy's a fucking idiot.
Like, I just. I can't stand him. He's just so stupid.
And then my final thing that I wanted to talk about was I like that they brought an outsider in. And he said, as an outsider, but what the hell is a average bad team in the NFL? What does that even mean?
[00:18:22] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, look, like, he was like, the Raiders.
[00:18:24] Speaker A: It's the Raiders. They're not bad. Well, they are bad, but they're average bad. What does all that mean? You sound like Kevin Stefanski.
Wow.
I'm sorry.
[00:18:35] Speaker B: Ronnie Jams is safety off right now on North Jersey. He is taking you guys out one by one.
[00:18:40] Speaker A: I gotta go down the line.
[00:18:44] Speaker B: I think that has been one of the criticisms coming out of this game. Obviously, it was a win. We're all happy about that. One of the criticisms has been, it was the Raiders. It was Las Vegas. They're not very good. So I don't. I don't know what the. What the retort is supposed to be. What, we're supposed to just roll over and lose because they're bad. And it doesn't. Doesn't do you any good to beat a bad team. Is it like, you know, beating up a smaller person, smaller than you were? Like, punching a girl? Like, is that. Is that supposed to be. Is that the connotation? Like, oh, well, you guys beat up on somebody that wasn't as good good? Like, can I remind you, this team lost to the New York jets, who weren't trying to win a football game.
[00:19:18] Speaker A: Two weeks ago, so remind you that our records were, like, the same.
[00:19:22] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:19:23] Speaker B: We are also a bad football team. So I'll take the wins where you can get them.
[00:19:27] Speaker A: Maybe we're good bad, but they were average bad. So, like, I Don't. I don't know. I don't know where the tier of bad teams falls. I don't know. I'm sorry.
[00:19:35] Speaker B: Great call, North Jersey.
[00:19:38] Speaker A: I'm sorry for taking you out one by one. I am jazzed up. Bone made a good pot of coffee tonight and I am jazzed the up right now.
So, yeah, I don't think I was too, too mean except for to the last guy outsiders get out.
[00:19:55] Speaker B: Was there anything else in that call?
[00:19:58] Speaker A: I did like they introduced. It might have been the outsider guy. They introduced him and when they introduced him, he was just like.
[00:20:04] Speaker B: I was like evil laugh.
[00:20:06] Speaker A: What is about to happen?
[00:20:07] Speaker B: Something sinister is coming.
[00:20:09] Speaker A: Besides that, I don't think there's anything else.
[00:20:12] Speaker B: What'd they finish with? What was the last part?
[00:20:14] Speaker A: Matt Crosby sucks.
[00:20:16] Speaker B: Max Crosby.
[00:20:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
Bone, where were you on that?
[00:20:22] Speaker E: I don't know that one.
[00:20:23] Speaker B: I got another one.
[00:20:24] Speaker A: Doesn't know our catchphrase.
[00:20:27] Speaker B: That's been from the beginning.
[00:20:29] Speaker C: Hey, guys, it's Menachem from the Browns backers of North Jersey. How you guys doing?
Let's start with the game. The game was.
Had a lot of excitement. Obviously everyone's going to talk about Shador.
A lot of people online are talking about him.
He played pretty well.
There's a cautious optimism on my part.
I'm happy with a lot of the things we saw.
Were there things that could be better? Yeah.
But considering fifth round pick, not a lot of practice time with the ones, all that stuff. I think we're on a good, good trajectory and hopefully he continues in terms of the not so good. Let's. Let's start there.
[00:21:11] Speaker B: Jerry.
[00:21:12] Speaker C: Judy, what in the world are you doing? Just stopping, Taking a break.
Waiting for.
[00:21:18] Speaker E: For.
[00:21:18] Speaker C: For like a bus to come and help him, like get to the end zone. Like, what in the world were you thinking?
[00:21:25] Speaker A: All right.
[00:21:26] Speaker C: Also the sacks last. The sacks, they're amazing.
Miles, 18 sacks on the season.
It's just dominance that we've never seen before.
I've always felt that Lawrence Taylor is the greatest defensive player, if not player in general in the NFL.
And Miles is definitely up there, if not pushing LT to. To the side.
Yeah, that's that.
For. For the other parts of the Angry Bobby part of the call. Here, here's.
[00:22:04] Speaker B: Here's the thing.
[00:22:06] Speaker C: Where was he last week? Where was his call?
I didn't hear him. I didn't hear his call. Did you guys hear his call? Did he call it? What's going on? And by the way, where were you guys giving him shit for not calling on Last week's episode. Episode. Come on, guys. You gotta do better. We could be better. We could all be better.
[00:22:26] Speaker D: All right?
[00:22:27] Speaker C: Anyway, have a great weekend. Happy Thanksgiving to everybody.
Hope everyone's doing well. And let's. Let's. Let's continue the. The fun, the excitement, and hopefully Angry Bobby calls this week, because otherwise I. You got.
[00:22:43] Speaker B: You really.
[00:22:43] Speaker E: You gotta.
[00:22:44] Speaker D: You gotta.
[00:22:44] Speaker C: You gotta take him to task, guys.
[00:22:46] Speaker E: All right.
[00:22:47] Speaker C: All the best. Bye.
[00:22:48] Speaker A: You listen here, man.
Nobody talks on the Burning River Sportscast hot tag hotline other than the Burning River Sportscast.
[00:22:57] Speaker B: I actually loved that call.
[00:22:58] Speaker A: Yeah, that was a great call. I. I liked it, too.
A little bit back and forth now. I like that we give each other.
[00:23:04] Speaker B: So, man, what I will say to you is this is. We did personally give Angry Bob.
[00:23:10] Speaker A: Oh, I was texting him.
[00:23:11] Speaker B: We texted him and said, where the hell are you? So.
[00:23:13] Speaker A: So keep going. I'll pull those texts up.
[00:23:16] Speaker B: Don't fret. We definitely did give him shit. I guess to your point, it's fair we didn't give him enough shit on the show because that's just unacceptable. I mean, look, I sent him a.
[00:23:27] Speaker A: Text and I said, dang, boys. No hot take hotline this week. And they said, this week, Kevin. This was from Kevin, of course, the guy that goes home early. He said, this week killed us.
And I said, felt bad. When we opened up the inbox, didn't see anything from you. And Bobby came back with, I think Menachem called in.
I'm. I'm like a broken record week after week. We will be back. Don't worry. Something new will piss us off.
[00:23:51] Speaker B: Bobby. Bobby was so defeated last week that.
[00:23:54] Speaker A: He forgot he put the onus on Menachem.
[00:23:58] Speaker B: Yeah, he left it.
[00:23:59] Speaker A: He said, I don't know. I'm not calling. Monocum's gonna call for us.
[00:24:02] Speaker B: North Jersey every week is keeping the Burning River Sportscast in business.
[00:24:07] Speaker A: Sorry. Something, man.
[00:24:08] Speaker B: We love these guys out there.
[00:24:09] Speaker A: So Manakum, though, you mentioned Jerry Judy. Yeah, I mean, we could talk about that all day. Jerry Judy sucks ass, so he's the worst.
[00:24:16] Speaker B: They really got to get that figured out. Yeah, I mean, it's starting to become evident why. Look, and I know Denver, he didn't have a lot of good quarterbacks there either. So it's. It's evident why they were comfortable letting go of him. The Browns paid him kind of sight unseen when they traded for him.
He's not a number one. No, he's not a number one.
That is. And. And he's. And he's trying Every single chance he's.
[00:24:40] Speaker A: Gotten to prove that he is a number one. Like, yeah, he had a decent season last year, but then every chance since then that he's gotten, he doesn't perform.
[00:24:48] Speaker B: Yeah. He's just not a number one.
[00:24:49] Speaker E: And.
[00:24:49] Speaker B: And that's really unfortunate because I think there were expectations there, but the reality is it's just not his. It's just not his role.
[00:24:56] Speaker A: He.
[00:24:57] Speaker B: He is a square peg and a rat round hole trying to. To fill that. And they got to do something at receiver. And Jerry may very well be a complimentary piece to this wide receiver core going forward, but he can't be. He can't be the number one.
[00:25:11] Speaker A: A lot of guys coming up in the draft. We got a high draft pick.
[00:25:13] Speaker B: Yeah. If you don't use it on a quarterback.
[00:25:16] Speaker A: Yep.
But, yeah, I was just gonna say, Menachem, thank you, because you are now the most consistent caller to the Burning River Sportscast Top Take hotline, overtaking the rest of the North Jersey Brownsbackers.
[00:25:28] Speaker B: And happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.
[00:25:29] Speaker A: Yes, absolutely. We appreciate that. Yeah, Menachem's a man.
[00:25:33] Speaker B: Menachem is the man.
[00:25:35] Speaker A: Yeah. You hear that, Angry Bobby? Suck it.
You too, Kevin.
[00:25:40] Speaker B: As always, we appreciate our friends in. In the Garden State.
[00:25:44] Speaker A: Is that all the hot takes?
[00:25:45] Speaker B: That is the hot takes this week.
[00:25:47] Speaker A: Oh, well, let me remind everybody else to call the hot take hotline. We want hot takes.
[00:25:51] Speaker B: We want hot takes. We want hot takes.
330-22780, 81330, 2278-081330-22780, 81330, 22780.
[00:26:03] Speaker A: We're not standing by. We'll put you on the air.
[00:26:05] Speaker B: Kick you in the Haslams.
[00:26:06] Speaker A: Kick you right in the Jimmies.
Speaking of hot takes, it's time for Dig it with the Macho fan.
Oh, yeah.
[00:26:21] Speaker B: Victory felt pretty good.
[00:26:23] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:26:24] Speaker A: Now we gotta turn our attention to the San Francisco 49ers.
[00:26:28] Speaker B: Yeah, that's right. You know, 49ers, you think you're coming here finding gold, a golden opportunity, you.
[00:26:35] Speaker A: Ain'T gonna find that. What you're gonna find, you're gonna find a hungry Cleveland Browns team.
[00:26:42] Speaker B: You're gonna find a dog bill that's loaded prowl.
[00:26:46] Speaker A: And those are two deadly combinations.
[00:26:48] Speaker B: So better back lightly because we're gonna.
[00:26:51] Speaker A: Send you back to the west coast.
[00:26:53] Speaker B: With that L. That's right.
[00:26:56] Speaker A: So let's go dog pound.
[00:26:58] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[00:27:00] Speaker B: Let's go Browns.
[00:27:02] Speaker D: Dig it.
[00:27:08] Speaker A: That guy sell macho.
[00:27:10] Speaker B: Macho. Macho.
[00:27:12] Speaker E: Machoist.
[00:27:13] Speaker A: I wanna be.
He's a dog. Dirty dog.
[00:27:20] Speaker B: Yeah, he is a dog.
Bobby the. Bobby the Brain was a snake, though.
[00:27:26] Speaker A: Yeah, he did tell you that. And then you tried to talk about his wife once.
[00:27:29] Speaker B: Did I send you the actual Macho man promo the other night? Did you listen to that? No, it was just the most gobbledygook. Like that guy was really all his rocker man.
[00:27:38] Speaker A: You talk about the actual, actual Macho Man. What are you talking about? The actual. This is the actual.
[00:27:42] Speaker B: You're right. I'm sorry.
[00:27:43] Speaker A: He's on our show.
[00:27:44] Speaker B: My bad.
[00:27:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:45] Speaker B: Macho fan.
[00:27:46] Speaker A: The hell's wrong?
[00:27:47] Speaker B: The original Macho.
[00:27:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:50] Speaker B: Randy Savage.
[00:27:50] Speaker A: Talking about dogs.
[00:27:51] Speaker B: Guy's name? Doug Smith.
[00:27:55] Speaker A: Speaking of dogs, it's time for the burger sports guys dog of the week.
[00:28:05] Speaker B: You got to play tough people in the National Football League. You got to be ready, and we got to be the dogs that we are. Everything Time we step on there on Sunday and be ready to attack. And don't stop until we're in that locker room.
[00:28:20] Speaker A: All right. We leave it up to our listeners and followers to determine the burning of a sportscast Dog of the Week each week on our live shows. On Sunday night, we each nominate a dog of the week candidate. From there, we turn it over to all of you on our socials to vote for and make the final decision.
This week's. That didn't make any sense, but whatever. This week's nominees. Kenny, that's a new thing. We just do that all the time.
I nominated Miles Garrett and Bone Quinshon Jenkins. He didn't get any votes, by the way. Bones.
[00:28:51] Speaker E: Unbelievable.
[00:28:52] Speaker B: Unbelievable.
[00:28:53] Speaker A: After the fan vote that was conducted today on our socials, this week's burning for sportscast Dog of the Week is.
Miles Garrett.
This is getting redundant.
[00:29:06] Speaker E: Yes.
[00:29:06] Speaker B: I'm surprised Shador didn't get more votes just because there's so many people.
[00:29:09] Speaker A: He didn't. He got about 20 of the votes overall. Between the.
[00:29:12] Speaker B: I mean, it's fair. I mean, Miles had three sacks and.
[00:29:15] Speaker A: Two forceful, five tackles, four solo tackles, four tackles for loss, six qb, six QB hits and three sacks and two force fumbles. And two force fumbles. Yeah, I missed that one.
[00:29:23] Speaker B: So, yeah, that's a pretty big step for defensive linemen.
[00:29:25] Speaker A: Yeah, that's pretty good.
[00:29:26] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:29:27] Speaker A: Not bad. Yeah, it's not bad.
[00:29:29] Speaker B: You get paid on forced fumbles.
[00:29:30] Speaker A: It's not bad.
[00:29:32] Speaker B: Speaking of the other nominees there, going back to the hot take hotline, somebody mentioned that Quin was a dog this week.
[00:29:40] Speaker A: I actually did mean to bring this up.
[00:29:42] Speaker E: Here.
[00:29:42] Speaker A: I'm glad you ain't here. Go ahead.
[00:29:43] Speaker B: He did have the two touchdowns, which.
[00:29:45] Speaker A: Is good, which is why Bo nominated him for dog.
[00:29:47] Speaker B: But he also had 16 carries, averaging less than 3 yards of carry again.
[00:29:52] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:29:53] Speaker B: So I don't know that hopped up on that performance.
[00:29:57] Speaker A: We talked about this. I'm starting to get pretty concerned about Judkins.
I understand our line is.
[00:30:03] Speaker B: Line is bad. That's true.
[00:30:04] Speaker A: True.
[00:30:04] Speaker B: And even our receivers blocking downfield are ass.
[00:30:07] Speaker A: But even in the first half of this season, like when, when Quinn Sean first started playing, for the first three games that he was in, whatever it was, he averaged like almost five yards of carry.
[00:30:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:17] Speaker A: So you can't tell me like it's the same line right now. You can't tell me that all of a sudden they got that much worse that he can't run the ball.
[00:30:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:25] Speaker A: And I don't know the. I understand there's reasons for it. It could be that they're stacking the box because it's rookie quarterbacks playing, whatever the case may be. But like, like, I just, I just.
[00:30:34] Speaker B: Think that when it's all said and done for the season, when you look at his production this year, I don't know that it will be as good as Trent Richardson's.
Not saying he is Trent Richardson. Not saying he's a bust. I'm just saying we all felt good about Trent Richardson after that first year based on he broke the rookie rushing record and had, I don't know, 10 or 13 touchdowns or whatever he had. He had a good year for rookie running back, but popped we all know Coleman's head off. He was the worst running back.
[00:30:58] Speaker A: That was the only highlight from his rookie.
[00:31:00] Speaker B: He was the worst running back ever after that.
[00:31:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:31:02] Speaker B: And. And right now, Quinn John's kind of pacing that. And, and the concerning is not the yards of the touchdowns that concern me, it's the yards per carry average.
[00:31:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:31:11] Speaker B: And maybe we're a little spoiled because we just came from Nick chubb who averaged five and a half yards of carry or 5.2 yards of carry for his entire career.
[00:31:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:31:20] Speaker B: So to go from that to watching anything else is a little painful.
But it's the NFL. If you're going to be a starting NFL running back, you got to average four yards of carry. You don't got to average the five and a quarter that Nick Chubb did. You have to average four.
[00:31:34] Speaker A: Yeah. My counter argument to what you just said though, about like the Trent Richardson analogy there, comparison, whatever you want to call it, is Nick Chubb, he didn't have the greatest rookie year. He didn't play as much, but he didn't have the greatest rookie year.
[00:31:49] Speaker B: Well, yeah, Nick Chubb wasn't brought in and immediately the focal point of that.
[00:31:52] Speaker A: But my point was just that, like, just because he's not going to break the record necessarily doesn't really.
[00:31:57] Speaker B: But the difference is in Nick Chubb's rookie year, he averaged five and a half yards of carry.
[00:32:02] Speaker A: Yeah, I'll give you that. I mean, I'm just, I'm just. My point was just that, like, if he doesn't break the rookie rushing record for the Browns, I mean, that doesn't really.
[00:32:09] Speaker B: Again, I'm less concerned about the yards and the touchdown yards per carry.
[00:32:13] Speaker A: If he average.
[00:32:13] Speaker B: If he gets the finishes with 800 yards, I'm not like his yards per.
[00:32:17] Speaker A: Carry will be worth. If he finishes at 2.9 yards.
[00:32:22] Speaker E: I know at one point in the year he was like second behind Derek Henry for yards. Guards after contact.
[00:32:27] Speaker C: I don't know.
[00:32:28] Speaker E: I don't know where that is now. I don't.
[00:32:29] Speaker A: Probably not there anymore.
[00:32:30] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:32:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:32:31] Speaker A: But, yeah, we should look up. Yeah, there's. There's concern.
Yeah, he's accepted his job finally.
[00:32:40] Speaker C: But.
[00:32:40] Speaker A: Yeah. So that'll do it for Dog of the week. Miles Garrett, once again, sorry, Miles, we.
[00:32:44] Speaker B: Interrupted your Dog of the week ceremony for.
[00:32:46] Speaker A: I think that's like Miles Garrett, fourth dog a week this. This season or something like that. Fifth. I don't know.
[00:32:51] Speaker B: Well, look, I mean, we've been. I've been saying this all year long. The only reason, the only reason to really watch. Not anymore at this point. And I mean, now we have with Shador. But to this point, up until this point, Miles has pretty much been the show.
[00:33:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
And with that, let's go ahead and get into the Browns brief.
All right, guys, we talked about this a little bit last week, but Bernie Kozar is recovering from his liver transplant. He was released from the hospital this week and doctors are saying he is a walking mirror miracle.
[00:33:27] Speaker B: So, yeah, they said that he could be recovering for up to a month and things went so well that he was able to get out this week, which is insane.
[00:33:34] Speaker A: Yeah. So great news for Bernie. I know there's a lot of happy Browns fans out there. I know the family of the, the kid that donated. We talked about this last week, the kid that donated the kidney, you know, they're all, all feeling good about the fact that they were able to help Bernie out. And so just a tragedy that kind of turned into A really good story.
[00:33:55] Speaker B: Modern medicine is a marble.
[00:33:57] Speaker A: It's a wild, wild thing.
Alex wright signed a three year, 33 million dollar extension this week and promptly got hurt. He did, he did. But he's been, he's been a pleasant surprise, I think, for everybody.
[00:34:11] Speaker B: I mean, I mean, this defensive front is good. I mean, they have a lot of young talent, a lot of veteran talent. It's a good, it's a, it's a good unit right now.
[00:34:18] Speaker A: It's mind boggling to me that the same guy that put together our offense, put together our defense.
Like, it's just fucking crazy.
[00:34:28] Speaker B: Well, you know, the insight comes from Jim Schwartz, though. Hey, here's my scheme, here's what I want, here's what I need guys to do.
[00:34:35] Speaker A: If you have a good scheme, you could do good things.
[00:34:37] Speaker B: Yeah, that helps.
[00:34:38] Speaker A: If you have the worst scheme in football, your offense is ass.
Yeah, yeah.
[00:34:45] Speaker B: I've, I've been thinking about this a lot actually, and I don't even know if this is the right time to bring this up, but just the Kevin Stefanski offense, which I think this whole like the west coast concept, it comes out of guys that are more traditional vertical downfield passers. And you're trying to reign that in, right? You're trying to say, hey, we can't just throw the ball down the field on every place. You're trying to rein that in with these timing routes and these short patterns, the extensions of the run. The problem is that should be a complimentary piece to your offense because here's how we, here's how we move the chains between the 30s. We need this part of our game, but it has to come at the compliment of a guy that can also throw vertically. And the problem is that's Kevin Stefanski's whole plan. That's the entire offense is this West Coast. Never throw the ball downfield, flats, underneath, crossers. Like that's the only offense. And I think that's really what has led to this, this, this year's offensive woes. Is that is the only plan? It's not a complimentary piece to the offense.
[00:35:53] Speaker A: No. And yeah, I mean it's what makes it so painful to watch is you never stretch the field. We just think that this is the way to do it. We. You call him Dylan Dinkin Dunk. We just want to do that all the way down the field every single time.
[00:36:04] Speaker B: Dunkin Donuts.
[00:36:06] Speaker A: He's got so many nicknames. What was the one that they gave him last night? Somebody gave him a pineapple Lollipop Guild.
[00:36:13] Speaker B: Lollipop Guild.
[00:36:14] Speaker A: Yeah, that was the one that he got last night. So.
But yeah, so, Al, I got a new contract. I don't know how that led to this, but here we are.
Miles Garrett is on a tear this season, which we all know. Here's a crazy stat for you NFL sack leaders this season. Miles Garrett at 18, which also ties his career high.
Pretty cool. And we're only through 12 weeks in second place for sacks this season. Miles Garrett in the last four games with 13, tied with Brian Burns for 13.
[00:36:43] Speaker E: So, yeah, that's Brian Burns total for the year.
[00:36:46] Speaker B: Pretty good.
[00:36:46] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:36:47] Speaker E: Got it.
[00:36:47] Speaker A: Miles Garrett at 18 for the whole season. A Miles Garrett tied with Brian Burns in the last. Just Miles last four games. Yeah.
[00:36:54] Speaker E: That's amazing.
[00:36:56] Speaker A: So we were. We were trying to figure out a way to really put into perspective how well Miles Garrett is playing this year. When we were on the live show, and. And I thought this one drove it home pretty good.
[00:37:07] Speaker B: Oh, 100%. I mean, like we said, Miles by himself has more sacks than some NFL defenses this year. So he's really good.
[00:37:15] Speaker A: He's pretty good at football.
[00:37:16] Speaker B: I'm out of superlatives for this guy. I don't know. I like. I don't. I don't know what else he can.
I mean, I think it might have been Wyatt.
[00:37:23] Speaker A: John. John, Tinchy. Just so you know, he's pretty good.
[00:37:26] Speaker B: It might have been Wyatt that joked in the locker room after the game that, like, Miles had a down games. He only had three sacks.
I mean, that's. That's the territory that we've entered into with Miles Garrett at this point.
And monochromatic call out. I mean, look. Lt is revered by most to be one of the most dominant defenders ever to play the game. And you have to kind of throw Miles into that conversation. Now, he doesn't have the same proclivity for strippers or in prostitutes, allegedly, but he's certainly in the conversation.
[00:37:55] Speaker A: Yeah. And I will say this. I'll call him out again. Our troll friend on Facebook, John Tenchi.
Every week you look like more and more of an ass. So just keep. Keep telling us how bad Miles Garrett is, how he's overrated, how he doesn't actually try, how he doesn't anything that you want to say. You just look like an idiot.
[00:38:13] Speaker B: I don't know what else you can. Like. What. What do you want him to do? What do you want to throw touchdown passes? Like, I. He's a defensive.
He has a role on the team, and he does it better than anyone ever has ever.
[00:38:24] Speaker A: Like, not just on the team, better than anyone ever has.
[00:38:27] Speaker B: He's pacing like 25 to 30 sacks. Like, I don't know. Yeah, that's a ridiculous. Those are. Those are video game numbers.
[00:38:36] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:36] Speaker B: And those are video game numbers. Like, when you go in and cheat and like, edit the player and like, make a speed 99, like, this is not a thing that happens.
[00:38:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
Next up here, Malik Collins said in his presser Monday when asked about the Browns offense giving the defense a lead to work with.
And I quote, yeah, that's what we've been praying for all season.
So, I mean, just a little bit of insight into how the. How the defense is feeling about the offense so far this season. I just thought this was a rare moment of just, like, off the cuff honesty instead of, you know, being buttoned up and saying what you're supposed to say in a press conference. He was just like, yeah, I would love to get some points here and there.
[00:39:12] Speaker B: And we continue to talk about this. Right. A part of your job as a quarterback is to elevate those around you. And I don't know what it is. I don't know that it can be measured. It doesn't show up on a box score, doesn't show up on a scouting report. But there is something about Shador Sanders, the way he talks to the guys, the way that he leads the offense, that has. Has gotten everyone else excited. I mean, look at the guys on the sidelines. Yeah. You had visible smiles from guys like Miles Garrett who were like, I don't. We haven't seen this before. It's been years since we had a quarterback that could throw the ball down the field and complete passes.
[00:39:48] Speaker C: He.
[00:39:48] Speaker B: He, at least on Sunday, is making everyone around him better. And everyone's enjoying it. Everyone's having fun.
[00:39:54] Speaker A: Oh, that was. You nailed it right there. That was the thing that's been missing from the Browns all season. I don't know a single game this season where the Browns sideline looked like they were having any fun at all, right?
[00:40:06] Speaker B: Yeah, they looked like they woke up and they realized they have a chance to win a game. And as a fan, it was the first. It was the most fun game I've watched all year long. It was the first time that I watched a game with an expectation that, like, we could and should win.
And it was enjoyable to watch. It wasn't the painful to, quote, bone boring ass football that we've been watching all year long. That has been. It's just. It's felt like A job to watch.
[00:40:32] Speaker A: Yeah. It was the first time all season that, like, when I got up to go to the kitchen and grab something or do whatever, I was like, rushing back. I was like, I gotta. I don't want to miss anything.
[00:40:40] Speaker B: Right.
[00:40:41] Speaker A: Every other time it's like, I don't give a shit.
So.
[00:40:44] Speaker B: And even with that, it was still the most conservative, like, like boring offense that could ever come out of the gate. Terrible scheme, but it was still more fun to watch than everything we've seen to this point.
[00:40:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
Bone your thoughts.
[00:40:58] Speaker E: I was gonna. I. I found some Quin information.
[00:41:02] Speaker A: I saw you itching to say something.
[00:41:04] Speaker E: We're gonna be getting into some, I guess some offensive guys on the Browns brief. So just answering the Quinchon.
This is a Sports illustrated article from the 17th of November and it says Judkins has rest for 620 yards so far this year. Good for 17th in the NFL. The more impressive part is that 555 of those yards have come after contact. Is 10th in the NFL now.
So that means 90% of his yards have been after contact, which, whatever, they're like, maybe that means he's not seeing the field well, but they basically said he has more stacked boxes than anybody in the NFL this year at 45%.
[00:41:40] Speaker A: Kind of what we said.
[00:41:41] Speaker E: So.
[00:41:41] Speaker B: Which, which all makes sense because there has been no threat to throw the ball to this point. Exact offensive line is really bad. So when there's penetration, you're going to get hit before the run starts.
[00:41:52] Speaker E: He's still turning. He's still turning it into something that's.
[00:41:55] Speaker B: That's fair.
[00:41:56] Speaker A: That's actually encouraging.
[00:41:57] Speaker E: Yeah. This writer from, from SI is basically saying he's having a sensational rookie year. He's like, if this is the, if this is what he's doing this year, he's like, imagine if we at least.
[00:42:07] Speaker A: From this, if we get a little bit of an offensive line and. Yeah, yeah, I like that makes me.
[00:42:11] Speaker B: Feel a little better.
[00:42:12] Speaker A: Yeah. And the fact that he's at 600 and some right now is they should theoretically, definitely break Trent Richardson's because Trent Richardson's at 900.
[00:42:19] Speaker B: So this, careful with that.
[00:42:21] Speaker E: And this, this article is before, I guess, this past game. Right, Right. So, yeah.
[00:42:25] Speaker B: I mean, how many yards did he have on Sunday?
46.
[00:42:29] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:42:30] Speaker B: So over six weeks, what's another 40 per game? I mean, if he's, if he's right.
[00:42:33] Speaker A: Well, I'm saying at that he's right there. So if he has one game where he gets like a hundred Yards.
[00:42:38] Speaker B: Well, he's going to have to have.
[00:42:39] Speaker A: A hundred yard game, I guess so.
[00:42:42] Speaker B: It's hard to do on 2.8 yards carry.
[00:42:44] Speaker A: That's fair.
[00:42:45] Speaker E: Maybe Shadora will open up the running game a little bit now.
[00:42:48] Speaker B: That's true.
[00:42:48] Speaker A: Yeah, that's true.
[00:42:51] Speaker B: Can save Quin Sean's season.
[00:42:52] Speaker A: Speaking of Shador, good segue guys.
It's like you guys read the notes or something.
[00:42:56] Speaker B: I was riding one yesterday.
[00:42:59] Speaker A: Dylan, thank you.
I hate you.
Dylan Gabriel has cleared concussion protocol.
And on the same day, and on the same day Shador Sanders was named the starter for the 49ers game this weekend. Yes.
[00:43:15] Speaker B: It had to be the most painful thing Kevin Stefanski has ever said.
And what's funny is he didn't even wait for the question. I mean it was kind of how he ended his, his initial briefing which was like, hey, here's who's injured, here's what's going on. That Dylan's had a concussion call concussion protocol, can't talk. And then very quickly it was like introder will start the this week.
Now let's open up for questions and Mary Kay's first question. Mary Kay literally says well I was going to ask you sure. Door where it's going to start this week. And I guess he is. So now I don't have any questions.
[00:43:47] Speaker A: She's just got all the most hard hitting questions. She's, she really, you know, she's really sticking it to Kevin Stapanski and trying to get answers out of it, really.
[00:43:55] Speaker B: Taking it to him.
[00:43:56] Speaker A: Oh, you answered the question that I was going to ask. I guess I won't ask anything else but I guess like I hate Mary Kay.
[00:44:03] Speaker B: Was there, was there any alternative possibility here? I mean if he had said, hey, Dylan's our starter, you don't lose your job to injury. Like we're going back to Dylan this week there would have been a riot not only, not only in the streets of Cleveland, but in the locker room.
[00:44:18] Speaker A: You know what's crazy is I think that's what he wanted to, I think that's what he would have done if somebody else was building dynamic.
[00:44:24] Speaker B: I think he would have liked that. I think he would have would elect to play Bailey's Appy last week. I don't think he wanted to put Shador on the field at all.
So I was a little surprised at it just because of how dumb Kevin Stefanski is. But, but from a logical standpoint, what reason would there have been on the planet to go back to Dylan Gabriel this week?
[00:44:46] Speaker A: There is None.
[00:44:46] Speaker B: It would have been totally nonsensical.
[00:44:48] Speaker A: There is none.
[00:44:48] Speaker E: I think that the defense, as you said, I think the whole defense would have quit it.
[00:44:52] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:44:52] Speaker E: If they could have like, I mean, how do you, how do you look past that?
[00:44:55] Speaker B: Right?
[00:44:55] Speaker A: Do we get a Rudy moment where they all start laying down their jerseys and they're like, no.
Yeah. And to your point, Kenny, about going, going back, you can't go back.
And the fact that if you do one, you just kind of prove everybody right. Like you were, you were a Dylan guy no matter what. And now we talked about this off air. But Kevin going forward, forward, he's kind of made his bed and he's going to have to lay. He looks, he's going to look worse and worse as the season goes on. Because here's the deal. Now you got Shadora in here and I'm sure Kevin, you know, because he likes to think he's the smartest guy in the room. I'm sure he's like, well, yeah, we could play him. He's going to be playing a better defense. He's going to have a horrible game. Well, guess what, Kevin, what happens when he comes out and he has maybe not even, he doesn't even have to have a great game, but if he has an okay game and they beat the 49ers, I don't even think it's.
[00:45:42] Speaker B: About like the okay game and the box score anymore. It's like, does he continue to show improvement week to week, week, whether they win or lose, like even that he getting better? Because that was the big difference between this game and everything we've seen to this point. Right. It's the eye test. We all know what we saw on Sunday, box scores. Statistically you look at it and go, it's kind of is whatever game. We all know what we watched and you watched a guy that looked like he belonged in the NFL for the first time all year at quarterback.
And so I think that's, that's, that's almost the measure going forward is like, does he continue to improve the things that are, people are, are critical about right now, the drifting in the pocket, the holding the ball too long, does he continue to get the ball out on time? Does he continue to show presence, step up into the pocket? Does he continue to like, do we eliminate some of those pre snap penalties as he getting guys aligned and things like are the pre snap reads there and is he making plays downfield? Is those things continue trending in the right direction whether they win or lose and whether what the box scores is. I don't know that it matters all that much. I mean if he goes out and throws four picks in a couple games, like, sure. So I do think that you can go back to Dylan Gabriel and I think Kevin is probably chomping at the bit too and he's hoping that Shador does go out and have some blow up game here and there.
I don't know. I, I think Shador is a gamer. I, I don't know that he's going to have one of those games. He's going to make mistakes, he's gonna throw picks, he's gonna fumble the ball. He's a rookie.
[00:47:01] Speaker A: Those things are gonna happen. He's gonna have a back.
[00:47:03] Speaker B: But I think that he's going to continue to show competence going forward.
[00:47:08] Speaker A: Yeah, and I, I would agree. I mean it is, it's just a lose, lose for Kevin the rest of season. And, and we talk about like I know you're, you're kind of resigned to the fact and I don't know if we were going to get into this later, but you're resigned to the fact that Kevin's getting another year no matter what.
I don't know. I'm of the thinking if Shador finishes the season from this point on, like that's almost a fireball offense for Kevin Stefanski. The fact that you pushed your guy, you pushed Dylan and said that he was the guy, he was the more NFL ready quarterback and you couldn't win with him. And then Shador comes in here, if he even shows that he's complimentary, shows more upside than Dylan Gabriel. Like we've said the whole time, like that's a fireball offense. You wasted however many games with Dylan Gabriel when we could have been developing Shador Sanders. You wasted the whole off season with Dylan Gabriel when we could have been developing Shador Sanders 100% well.
[00:47:54] Speaker B: And I think, and obviously this is one of those hard. You can't go back and do the what it could have, should have. But Cincinnati, Minnesota, New York jets, you're telling me that Shador playing is just as moderately good as he played on Sunday. Might not have made a difference in those three games. Games that puts you at six wins for the. All of a sudden it's a totally different conversation. You're the darling of the NFL. Shador Sanders is on every headline, every ESPN show and this team is looking at a wild card or a playoff birth.
[00:48:26] Speaker E: The NFL is in love with the Carolina Panthers right now. You know that we would have the.
[00:48:30] Speaker B: Same record yeah, And I just think, like, those are also bad teams, that those were very winnable games. Right. I mean, those weren't, those weren't games where you had. Had clearly a better opponent. You know, like you lose to Detroit and you go like, okay, well, like, Detroit's pretty good.
You know, New England has played really well this year. So, like, some of those games, you probably still lose those games.
[00:48:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:48:50] Speaker B: But like the New York Jets, Minnesota, like, those were games that you absolutely could have won.
[00:48:55] Speaker A: Yeah.
And you already said it, but. Yeah, I can't. My. One of my things that I wanted to talk about, just this whole situation is I. I can't believe that Stefanski is actually starting him. It's just like mind boggling to me. Like, there's no injury to Dylan Gabriel, his guy, and he's starting Shador Sanders. But again, it's. It's probably forced.
[00:49:13] Speaker B: Here's my question. Does Dylan Gabriel get practice reps this week?
[00:49:16] Speaker A: Probably. Oh, absolutely. He's definitely getting first team reps. No.
[00:49:19] Speaker E: He'S getting that dog. What is that, dog time or dog time?
[00:49:23] Speaker B: Dog party.
[00:49:23] Speaker A: Yeah. Where we go and we, we put all the practice squad guys out there for you to play against.
[00:49:28] Speaker B: I mean, I just. Again, like, you go back to the draft. We all know, we all. That's what's so frustrating. We all knew from the get that Dylan was not, was. Was a project backup.
[00:49:38] Speaker A: Even on draft night when they drafted him, the whole broadcast was like, Dylan Gabriel.
[00:49:43] Speaker B: Yeah. If you had put OTAs and training camp in all the preseason into Shador Sanders, I'm not saying his team would have won the super bowl this year, but imagine where his development would be in. Think about where this team might be. It's just, it's. It's a lost season and it was unnecessary.
[00:50:03] Speaker A: It was unnecessary for it to be so Stefans. He's not happy about this. But you know who is happy about this? Andrew Barry. Did you see that picture of them hugging?
[00:50:10] Speaker B: Like, it was quite an embrace.
[00:50:12] Speaker A: It was like Andrew Barry's proud dad, Miles Garrett, was happy. You saw him reacting on the sideline. We talked about that a little bit. The whole defense was happy. You saw them reacting on the sideline.
And then a lot of people in the media had things to say. So Rex Ryan came out and he said, which Rex Ryan was Rex Ryan?
[00:50:30] Speaker D: He's.
[00:50:31] Speaker A: He's an ass. Let's just throw that out there. He hates the Cleveland Browns.
[00:50:34] Speaker B: He's an ass and a half.
[00:50:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
And he said, did he play great? No, it was about the defense. Shador, I know you don't listen, but start saying we and us when you win, and I and me when you lose and watch your popularity rise. Listen, I don't. I don't. I could be wrong here.
I didn't check the numbers. I'll be honest. But if you look at Shador Sanders, Instagram followers, social media followers, I think they're higher than Rex Ryan, the highest.
[00:51:00] Speaker B: Paid college football player ever lived.
[00:51:01] Speaker A: I'm pretty sure he doesn't need popularity advice from Rex Ryan, who's one of the most hated analysts you know.
[00:51:10] Speaker B: You know why Rex Ryan does this for a living?
[00:51:12] Speaker A: Because he's clickbait.
[00:51:13] Speaker B: Because he loves football.
[00:51:17] Speaker A: I see what you did there.
He's a feet guy.
[00:51:20] Speaker B: He wishes it was speedball.
[00:51:22] Speaker A: Yeah, it's not.
[00:51:23] Speaker B: He loves feet on his balls.
[00:51:26] Speaker A: I didn't need that.
Skip Bayless is still all in on Shador.
[00:51:30] Speaker B: He's got a Shador.
[00:51:33] Speaker A: What was that, like a. Like a 23 minute, 15 minute clip? Yeah, it's so stupid.
[00:51:37] Speaker B: What I love about it, though, is it he has a Shador jersey, but it's not. Not just the one you order off. Like, he got the. The all white, the. The special alternative jersey with the orange trim and stuff around the numbers. Like he went all out.
[00:51:52] Speaker A: Yeah, of course, the door jersey. And a quote that I liked from that. Because everybody, everybody that's ever watched Skip knows that he's like, just loves the Cowboys. Everything Cowboys was I. Skip Baila said I got more satisfaction out of watching Shador than I got out of watching the Dallas Cowboys comeback.
Which historical comeback. They were down 21 nothing in the fourth quarter, I think.
[00:52:14] Speaker B: So sometime between now and next year, Skip will talk about Dallas trading Dak Prescott to Cleveland for Shador Sanders.
[00:52:23] Speaker A: That I'm pretty sure he already has.
[00:52:25] Speaker B: That will happen. He will be like, we need your door in Dallas in Big D right now.
Send them Dak.
[00:52:31] Speaker A: Not Dak. I'm pretty sure he's already talked about them getting Shador. But, yeah, I think you're right. I think that's probably coming.
[00:52:38] Speaker B: That is coming.
[00:52:39] Speaker A: Another guy that's all in on. On Shador. RG3 all in on Shador. He posted a much shorter rant about how Shador is the guy and the Browns need to go with him, and he's the guy they've been waiting for from the start. It wasn't Baker. It wasn't any of these other guys. It was Shador Sanders all along.
And then finally another guy that's all in On Shador. Kenny Thunder.
He's decided today he's all in on Shador.
[00:53:01] Speaker B: I wasn't even today. I've. I've always been a fan of his. I always thought that he could be an N quarterback.
I thought it's an interesting storyline. I. I appreciate the fact that I think he's had a unique upbringing that has, that has, you know, baptized him for this moment. That has. That has. He's always been taught to be a professional, a leader, and he has the skill set to go along with it. And I like his confidence. I like his swagger now. All in again. I don't know if he's a franchise quarterback long term or not. I'm all in on him right now. I think he's shown me enough that I want to see him the rest of the year. I don't think there's a quarterback in this draft class that is better today than Shador Sanders is today. So to me that means I don't need to waste a pick on a quarterback next year. I think you roll with Shador next year. Let him have a full off season under his belt. Make the plan to build that offense around him. And if he's terrible, the problem takes care of itself because you'll pick top five in the draft, you'll get your choice of quarterback and this whole thing is a footnote in history.
If he's not awful, that means you won some games and you're not picking top five.
Maybe he is a guy that has a longer term future in the NFL.
[00:54:20] Speaker A: Yep. And I will give you. I am also, I will say I'm all in on this season for sure. For sure. Sanders. I don't want anybody else playing quarterback for the Browns the rest of the way. Assuming Shador Sanders is healthy, I'll take.
[00:54:33] Speaker B: Him even when he's hurt.
[00:54:35] Speaker A: All right. And that'll do it for the Browns. Brief. Let's go ahead and get into the division round up.
All right, guys, so this week we'll start with Cincinnati. Cincinnati lost to New England. We were all right there. We knew that was gonna happen.
Probably Joe Flacco's last game ever, so feels bad that he lost.
[00:55:01] Speaker B: Legend of Joe Flacco.
[00:55:03] Speaker A: What do you go with them? One and five.
So something like that. One in five. One.
[00:55:07] Speaker E: He's not going to get a statue in Cincinnati.
[00:55:09] Speaker A: I don't think so.
If we would have just left it after the first one, we probably could have put one of him in Cleveland, but true.
Next up here. Oh, we were all right there. I Don't know if I mentioned that, but next up, Baltimore beat the Jets. We were again all right. The jets are ass.
[00:55:25] Speaker B: Jets are really bad.
[00:55:26] Speaker A: Baltimore's pretty good.
Something that did come out of this game though is Lamar Jackson's dealing with a.
Basically what I'm hearing is it's some. Some kind of like turf toe like injury.
And he's questionable for this week against the Bengals on Thursday night.
[00:55:43] Speaker B: Someone made the point earlier just off the show, just talking about how bad Lamar's looked the last two weeks, which is true. I mean, I don't think he's broke 200 yards the last two weeks and he hasn't looked like himself.
[00:55:52] Speaker A: So he's missing a toe.
[00:55:53] Speaker B: It's hard to do when you're missing a toe.
[00:55:55] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:55:55] Speaker B: And what.
[00:55:56] Speaker A: And would they typically turf toes in like your big toe too?
[00:55:58] Speaker B: So it's like they call that the great toe.
[00:56:01] Speaker A: Yeah, the great toe.
[00:56:02] Speaker B: Yeah. I keep seeing like the Darius Garland injury report and they keep calling it the great toe. I was like, it's a big toe, man.
[00:56:08] Speaker A: I don't know why you don't call.
[00:56:09] Speaker D: It the big toe.
[00:56:10] Speaker E: They just love Trump.
[00:56:11] Speaker A: Is that make toes great again?
It's just a great toe. It's the best toe. The best toe you've ever seen.
[00:56:21] Speaker B: You didn't mention that during the Browns brief that Donald Trump was shouting out.
[00:56:24] Speaker A: I didn't. He didn't. He. He said I told you so.
[00:56:27] Speaker B: Make Cleveland great again.
[00:56:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Next up, Pittsburgh lost to the Bears.
Surprisingly, we were all right on this because it's kind of a toss up game, I thought. I mean, both teams are frauds, but the Bears won and we all picked it. Right. So everybody, good job. Yep. And then Cleveland beat the Raiders. And once again, even though the Browns hadn't won in the Pacific time zone since 2012, we all picked this game. Right.
[00:56:50] Speaker B: I think that's something that hasn't been talked about enough. This whole Shador thing's got everybody all confused. They were talking about the. Oh, nobody is start. Started to had their debut, wanting their debut and all this stuff. The Browns historically don't travel west well. So Shador broke that court curse, which I think is worth something.
[00:57:07] Speaker A: I think it had something to do with the fact that it was week 12 and he's number 12 and like all the stars were aligned 144.
[00:57:13] Speaker B: He's a gross.
[00:57:14] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's gross.
He was right on schedule.
But yeah, we all picked all the games. Right. So we were all four and oh. So collectively we're 16. Zero this week, guys.
Good job.
[00:57:27] Speaker B: That's why you listen to the Benning River Sportscast. Take our betting info from us. Except for last week.
[00:57:31] Speaker A: Yeah.
For the AFC north standings are as follows. Baltimore is finally taking the lead in the in the standings. I guess. I don't know if they own the tiebreaker or not, but they're six and five. I think they do because they beat Pittsburgh, didn't they? So sure they're 6 and 5. Pittsburgh is 6 and 5. Cincinnati is at 3 and 8. But they're still ahead of us because they beat us and we are also three and eight. So we've. We've caught somebody though. We caught Cincinnati. That's pretty cool.
[00:57:56] Speaker B: If the Browns are good and Shador is still here, the new stadium will be the shadow Sh it.
[00:58:03] Speaker A: I love it. I love it. Current king of the north standings. We'll get back to these bone. You're still on top at 25 and 13. I'm right behind you at 24 and 14. John's right behind me at 23 and 15 and Kenny's somewhere back there at 19 and 19.
[00:58:15] Speaker B: You made it back to 500, baby.
[00:58:16] Speaker A: You did it.
You did it. With that, let's take a quick trip around the NFL.
All right, so I didn't think I talked about Cleveland enough. So I'm going to talk about Cleveland a little bit more here. Around the league, there were five ex Browns starting at quarterback.
[00:58:38] Speaker B: Cleveland is a quarterback factory.
[00:58:40] Speaker A: Yeah. They all lost though.
That's to Rod Taylor with the Jets. Baker Mayfield with the Bucks. Jacoby Brissette with the Cardinals. Joe Flacco with the Bango Bangles.
[00:58:50] Speaker B: The Bangos.
Bingo. Bango. Bango.
[00:58:55] Speaker A: And Jameis Winston with the Giants, which he had a phenomenal catch. It just juked the shit out of the other team probably.
Yeah.
[00:59:01] Speaker B: That was 10 plays in the NFL all time.
[00:59:03] Speaker A: Yeah.
But all of them lost.
All that to say Shador Sanders was the only current or former Browns quarterback playing on Sunday that won his game.
[00:59:13] Speaker B: You know, this hasn't gotten enough talked about.
[00:59:17] Speaker A: Tell me about it, Kenny.
[00:59:18] Speaker B: All the other Browns quarterbacks lost except for Shador. That's a big deal. He broke that curse, too.
[00:59:22] Speaker A: Yeah, he's breaking lots of curses.
[00:59:24] Speaker B: He's the only quarterback that wins here.
[00:59:25] Speaker A: Yep.
Next.
Next up here. Jamar Chase said last week he didn't spit on Jaylen Ramsey. And this week he issued an apology for spitting on Jaylen Ramsic.
Just thought this was funny.
[00:59:38] Speaker E: Tables after.
[00:59:39] Speaker A: Exactly how the tables turn. Once he saw the video footage, he Was like, how does really. I can't really tell people I didn't spit on him because it's pretty clear. Yeah, but he said there was a.
[00:59:51] Speaker B: Spitting incident in Kyle College football last week, too. I don't know why these people are spitting on each other. So stupid.
[00:59:56] Speaker A: The last few weeks, it's like every.
[00:59:57] Speaker B: Week somebody's spitting so trashy.
[00:59:58] Speaker A: Stop it. You guys are trash.
Next up here, J.J. mcCarthy.
[01:00:03] Speaker B: I think spitting should be a assault.
[01:00:08] Speaker A: It is in public. It's just not in a football game.
[01:00:11] Speaker B: It should be a, like, death penalty sentence for the game. Now they kill you, but you're not.
[01:00:15] Speaker A: Likable no more like, they disqualify you for the game.
[01:00:17] Speaker B: Yeah. No, like, forever done.
[01:00:19] Speaker A: Forever.
[01:00:20] Speaker B: You spit on somebody one time, you're not allowed to play no more. You pissed in the doghouse. You're out.
[01:00:24] Speaker E: I like it.
[01:00:26] Speaker B: No one would spit anymore.
[01:00:27] Speaker A: When you say pissed in the doghouse, it just reminded me of that thing you gave us a couple weeks ago where the picture where it was, like, the piss trough or whatever. It was.
[01:00:33] Speaker B: The piss wall.
[01:00:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
Dang.
Anyways, JJ McCarthy is in. Speaking of piss walls, JJ McCarthy is in concussion protocol and probably will be out again this week, so. This dude is so overrated. Like, he's just hurt all the time. What was the stat line this week?
[01:00:50] Speaker B: He was. He kind of played, like, 50% of his passes for 90 years and, like, two picks.
[01:00:54] Speaker A: Basically the same he did in every game in college ever.
[01:00:56] Speaker B: Yeah, his entire. That's his entire Michigan career right there.
[01:00:59] Speaker A: Oh, but he beat Ohio State. Okay.
[01:01:01] Speaker B: I think. I think he was. Because he didn't exhibit symptoms of a concussion until he was flying home on the plane. I think he was on the plane wi fi and saw the memes and stuff, and he was like, dude, I'm getting ripped. I can't play next week. I got to take it off. My head hurts.
[01:01:14] Speaker A: He finally had enough. He's like.
[01:01:17] Speaker E: Who'S their coach? Kevin o'.
[01:01:19] Speaker B: Connell.
[01:01:19] Speaker E: Is that right? I think he pulled us to fancy here. He's like, we're all in on this guy, and he's looking bad.
[01:01:24] Speaker B: Yeah, they're kind of stuck there.
[01:01:26] Speaker A: Yeah, he's not good. He's not good.
[01:01:29] Speaker B: Maybe Carson Wentz can save their season. I don't know.
[01:01:31] Speaker A: Probably not.
Speaking of not good, Raiders offensive coordinator Chip Kelly got fired after the game against Cleveland.
[01:01:37] Speaker B: See ya.
[01:01:37] Speaker A: More Cleveland talk here. I just love it.
Greg Olson, interestingly, was promoted to the interim offensive coordinator coordinator.
So. Yeah, that Greg Olson.
[01:01:48] Speaker B: Yes, Greg Olson, the commentator the tight end and commentator.
[01:01:53] Speaker A: Yep. I don't know.
[01:01:54] Speaker B: Are you sure?
[01:01:56] Speaker E: I saw that on the TV a little bit ago. Honestly.
[01:01:58] Speaker A: Greg Olson. Yeah, it's different. Greg Olson.
[01:02:03] Speaker B: You said that. Greg Olson.
[01:02:05] Speaker A: Well, you know, you win some, you lose.
[01:02:08] Speaker E: How many Greg Olson's are there in NFL football?
[01:02:10] Speaker A: Seven.
[01:02:13] Speaker B: Just kidding.
[01:02:14] Speaker A: Just kidding.
Geno Smith flipped a fan off when he was walking off the field because they were booing him. So that. That happened too. In the Raiders game or after the Raiders game?
So all this to say the Browns broke the Raiders this week? They absolutely. When you lose to the Browns, bad things happen to your franchise.
[01:02:30] Speaker B: This is the response we thought we were going to get after we lost to the Jets. Yeah, like ownership saying, guys, this ain't good enough. You lost to the jets like you lost to the Browns. Guys, you're. You. You're done. Get out of here.
[01:02:40] Speaker A: Yeah, we didn't get that, though.
[01:02:42] Speaker B: We didn't get that though. No, no stones.
[01:02:45] Speaker A: And while we're on the subject of the Raiders, Antonio Pierce said this week that if he was still with the Raiders, there was no way Shador was making it to the fifth round.
Instead, Shador came in and beat the.
[01:02:56] Speaker B: Raiders and yeah, they passed on him.
[01:02:58] Speaker A: And now they're firing everybody.
[01:03:01] Speaker B: Speaking of Antonio Pierce, the Giants also fired their defensive coordinator this week after they lost. Lost.
[01:03:06] Speaker A: Feels bad.
Lots of people getting fired, hot seats getting hotter. Yeah, except for Kevin's. Next up, Justin Tucker is getting a tryout with the Saints, his first since his suspension.
[01:03:17] Speaker B: I mean, if he's cleared to play, he's still a good kicker. I mean, I.
[01:03:21] Speaker A: He had a really bad last year and.
[01:03:23] Speaker B: Yeah, he did. He's getting older, but I was gonna say.
[01:03:26] Speaker A: How old is he? Is he like 42?
[01:03:27] Speaker B: I don't know. He's quite that old, but he's older.
It's hard to find kickers in the NFL.
[01:03:32] Speaker A: Know that's true. We. We know, we know.
[01:03:35] Speaker B: We've been through them.
[01:03:36] Speaker A: Remember when Zach's favorite. When Bone's favorite NFL kicker was.
[01:03:42] Speaker B: Who's that?
[01:03:43] Speaker A: Who's that?
Remember when Bones favorite NFL kicker was Dustin Hopkins? So much so that I got him a T shirt.
[01:03:50] Speaker E: Yeah, that's a really nice T shirt.
[01:03:52] Speaker B: You need to bring that T shirt back.
[01:03:53] Speaker A: Yeah, just wear it once.
[01:03:54] Speaker E: Hopkins International, baby.
[01:03:55] Speaker A: It's vintage.
[01:03:56] Speaker E: Just soaring out of there.
Soaring out of the NFL.
[01:04:01] Speaker A: Yeah. And then finally, I know this isn't NFL news, but it's. It's the week of the game. And I'm not. I don't mean like the game. Like any old game, it's the game.
The game. Osu, Ohio State versus that team up north that we all hate.
And I know they're all talking shit. I know Dave Portnoy is out there just talking shit.
[01:04:21] Speaker B: And every week on college game day.
[01:04:22] Speaker A: Yeah. Four in a row.
[01:04:23] Speaker E: You do that.
[01:04:24] Speaker A: Yeah. I wonder what's going to happen when they lose by 40. And then he's going to be like, ah, damn.
My. My reign of terrorizing Ohio State fans has come to an end.
[01:04:34] Speaker B: Speaking of Portnoy, did you happen to see. You know, obviously does. The pizza reviews.
[01:04:38] Speaker A: Speaking of Portnoy. Portnoy, call us.
[01:04:40] Speaker B: You want to.
[01:04:41] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:04:41] Speaker B: If you want us to be on your show, you want us to be a show on your network, call us.
[01:04:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:04:45] Speaker B: Speaking of Portnoy, did you happen to see. Because he was in Cincy this week for game day, did you happen to see his review of Skyline Chili?
[01:04:54] Speaker A: Did he call it ass?
[01:04:56] Speaker B: No, he gave it like. He's like, I don't. This is my first chili reviews. I don't really have anything compared to. But he gave it like a seven and a half or so.
But he was just so confused by it. Like, he had no idea what he was getting into. He, like, opened it and he's like, this is. This is just like spaghetti.
[01:05:11] Speaker A: It's the weirdest thing. I still don't. I live in Ohio, and I don't fucking understand. Understand Skyline Chili.
[01:05:16] Speaker B: He was like, I guess this is good. I'm gonna definitely have diarrhea later. I was like, you have no idea, Portnoy.
[01:05:23] Speaker A: If there's one thing you can be sure of, it's if you eat Skyline Chili, you will hurt later.
[01:05:30] Speaker B: It's just like. It was just Skyline.
[01:05:32] Speaker E: We're looking for sponsors.
[01:05:33] Speaker B: You should check out the real. Because it was funny, because he was trying to figure out, like, what to do with. He was like, there's cheese and oyster crackers in here. Like, I guess you just pour this stuff on it. He just, like, set it down on the sidewalk. Outside was dumping toppings on it, trying to figure out what to do with this thing. You might have to.
[01:05:48] Speaker A: Yeah, don't try Skyline Chili unless you want to bleed from the inside.
[01:05:53] Speaker B: Unless you want your insides to become your outsides.
[01:05:57] Speaker A: Nice. A Knight's Tale reference there. I love that.
[01:05:59] Speaker B: I thought he messed up because I. I will fong you. I always think the best thing to get at the Skyline is little hot dogs with the salt with the chili sauce on them. That's the way to go. If you're gonna. If you're gonna.
[01:06:08] Speaker A: Lots of cheese on top.
[01:06:09] Speaker B: If you're gonna ingest that stuff, that's the way to do it.
[01:06:12] Speaker A: I'll be honest with you. What we do, stop at Skyline every once in a while. There's one over there, Cuyahoga Falls, Stowe area. It has its.
[01:06:18] Speaker B: It has its time and place.
[01:06:20] Speaker A: Just.
[01:06:21] Speaker B: You will get diarrhea.
[01:06:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
But anyways, last thing about the. I don't know how we got here from Ohio State, but Ohio State game last year, we were wrong and we accept that. But this year, I just want to ask you guys, what do you think? What's going to happen? Kenny, Kenny, we're going to start with you.
[01:06:36] Speaker B: It's almost unfathomable to think that that team lost last year to them.
Ohio State is the best team in the country.
[01:06:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:06:48] Speaker B: Period.
The best team with the best players. I mean, shoot, they got two underclassmen that would probably go 1, 2 in the NFL draft this year if they were eligible.
I don't see any way they lose this game. And I think this is a game that.
[01:07:01] Speaker A: Especially because they rested their receivers this past week so that they can be ready for the. This game.
[01:07:06] Speaker B: This has to be a resounding, like, 30, 40 point difference.
[01:07:11] Speaker A: Like, I think if they get up, too. I think this is a statement game for Ryan Day.
[01:07:15] Speaker B: You can score 60, you score 60.
[01:07:17] Speaker A: It's the one thing Ryan Day hasn't been able to do is beat Michigan. And so.
[01:07:21] Speaker B: And he's heard it every year, he's.
[01:07:23] Speaker E: Going to pile it on if he.
[01:07:24] Speaker A: Because if the flip side of it is, if he loses, he's going to hear it again. Like, we don't. You know, you've done a lot of good things, but you can't beat that team. So.
[01:07:31] Speaker B: But Ann Arbor is a horse, so.
[01:07:33] Speaker A: Oh, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely.
[01:07:36] Speaker B: But I'll go. I'll go. Buckeyes in this. Let's go. Like 45, 10.
[01:07:40] Speaker A: Nice. I like that bone. Who you got?
[01:07:42] Speaker E: Buckeyes.
You want to score?
[01:07:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:07:45] Speaker E: That's got to be a high score, huh?
We'll go 30, 38, 17.
[01:07:54] Speaker A: Listen, guys, this is gonna get wickety.
I know it's a rivalry game, and typically these are. These are closed. Closer.
But I just. It's kind of like we just talked about. I just think it's a statement game. And I. I'm going to go. Buckeyes 56.
Yes to 14.
[01:08:14] Speaker B: I'd like to see it.
[01:08:15] Speaker A: So.
[01:08:15] Speaker B: I mean, they deserve everything they're going to get.
[01:08:17] Speaker A: I Just think, like. Like you might get a day from, like, Jeremiah Smith where he's got, like, four touchdowns.
[01:08:23] Speaker B: I hope so.
[01:08:24] Speaker A: So. And Carnell Tate's coming. They'll both be back. Julian Saying is the only quarterback in. In college football history to throw for on the season.
[01:08:34] Speaker B: Is he still, like. I feel like we had some drops and stuff this week.
[01:08:37] Speaker A: I think he's just over. Either just over it or just under it. But now he's got all his weapons back, so.
[01:08:44] Speaker B: I guess my final thought on this is, like, if they do lose again, that's gonna feel real bad.
[01:08:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
I mean, you thought it was. You thought it got crazy before last year's playoffs when everybody was calling for Ryan Day's job. It's gonna be even worse this year.
[01:09:00] Speaker B: I mean, I still don't think you can fire Ryan Day because his record is so incredible, ridiculously good, and he now has a national championship, but, man, that will feel bad.
[01:09:11] Speaker E: No Big Ten title game. I think he really playing Indiana.
[01:09:15] Speaker B: Right. And that's the one everybody wants to see, right?
[01:09:18] Speaker E: Yeah.
[01:09:18] Speaker A: I think he really hurt himself last year, just legacy wise, when he tried to say after the game that the game didn't matter and all the fans were like, I think if you win.
[01:09:27] Speaker B: I think if you win the game, I think people will forget about that.
[01:09:30] Speaker A: Yeah, but you can't keep going.
[01:09:32] Speaker B: 04.
[01:09:32] Speaker A: No, no, you can't keep doing that.
But, Kenny, you know what? It's.
[01:09:37] Speaker B: Tell me.
[01:09:37] Speaker A: It's time for another interview in our Browns backers interview series. Oh, boy.
[01:09:44] Speaker B: How much money do you make a year before taxes?
I'm actually not comfortable answering that.
[01:09:50] Speaker C: Come on.
[01:09:51] Speaker B: We're doing the interview now, not you.
[01:09:55] Speaker A: All right, so for this Brownsbackers interview, please help me welcome. Hailing from the Beach Hut Deli in Bend, Oregon, the press president of the Ben Brownsbackers, Chrissy.
Chrissy, thank you so much for joining us. How are you today?
[01:10:11] Speaker D: I'm doing great. How are you guys doing?
[01:10:13] Speaker A: Good. The Browns won this week, so we feel. We feel good.
[01:10:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:10:17] Speaker D: Happy victory Monday, you guys. We don't get to say that too often.
[01:10:20] Speaker A: We don't. We don't. We got to say it as often as we. When we get the chance to say it all day, you know?
[01:10:26] Speaker D: No, honestly, my parents got me a victory Monday shirt for Christmas, like, three years ago, and I think I've worn it maybe like three times, maybe four.
[01:10:34] Speaker A: Didn't take the opportunity to wear it today. Come on.
[01:10:37] Speaker D: I was cold and I did. I did forget. So fall break. Fall.
[01:10:43] Speaker A: You called yourself out. You know, I actually did, yeah. So listen, tell us about your chapter, Chrissy, out there in Bend. You know, how many, how many members do you have? What's your history and what do you guys involve with now?
[01:10:58] Speaker D: Yeah. So we are the Bend Brownsbackers. We are located in Bend, Oregon, central Oregon. We're in the high desert, located near the Cascade Mountain range. So it's literally like a one of a kind town. We have the Cascades, the Deschutes river through our town, which you can kind of see in our logo.
Our little Brownie elf is actually paddleboarding through the Deschutes River.
So, yep, that is our latest thing. We finally got a logo. We've been meeting for about a decade. Unofficially.
We actually met on the streets to be or Chrissy was passing people and it was actually a GV artwork shirt. And I'm like, you must be from Cleveland, Ohio if you are wearing that niche of a shirt.
And sure enough, they both were from Cleveland. And we started meeting every single Sunday. And it's evolved since then. Kept meeting and meeting and finding more people.
We've suffered through many tragic Cleveland things.
The Cavs championship, the Indians losing in 2017. I'll never forget walking home with my friends from the bar crying from that game seven loss.
But then again, like the Browns just hold us together. We've been through 00:16.
We've been through probably as many bars as quarterback. No, just kidding. Not that many.
But we have had our fair share of Brown's luck and you know, been through a different bars. But the Beach Hut Deli is amazing.
We're downtown.
It's so much fun. We have probably at least two dozen regular members and then anywhere up to 50 plus.
And then we actually are a destination town. So we get a lot of people visiting from Cleveland or other backers bars.
So that's pretty fun. But at the beach, at deli, I love to sit in a spot where I'm facing the door because people, people's faces when they see not only one but like a clan of Browns fans, the confusion is unreal. And there's multiple kids.
I have two littles and I knew I made it as a parent when I heard him at the breakfast table chanting two years ago, they're only two or three and a half and five and a half. But they were going, okay, when I say, here we go, Brownies, here we go, you Brownies go who?
[01:13:22] Speaker A: Who?
[01:13:24] Speaker D: And my husband's a Seahawks fan, so I'm happy.
[01:13:27] Speaker A: Nice. Nice.
[01:13:30] Speaker D: Yes, exactly. This past week, he's Like, I'm so confident I would bet our mortgage. Haven't you ever felt like that about your team? Haven't you ever felt so confident that you'd win a game?
[01:13:43] Speaker A: I'm like, deliver a swift headbutt straight to his face.
[01:13:48] Speaker D: Literally. I did. I'm like, why are you doing this to me?
[01:13:52] Speaker A: What a jerk.
[01:13:53] Speaker D: He's a closet Browns fan. He does rep with us every single Sunday. Watching with us, My fans, my backers, we all know each other.
They know him pretty well.
I say I'm the only. Only the president because I was the only one responsible of the friend group enough to file the paperwork.
[01:14:12] Speaker A: Yeah, that's how it goes, you know? Yeah. That's why.
[01:14:15] Speaker D: So here I am.
[01:14:17] Speaker A: I was the only one responsible enough to file the paperwork, and Kenny just came along with me.
[01:14:20] Speaker B: I'm busy, man.
[01:14:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:14:23] Speaker D: No, that's literally what it was. When my friends, like, I like how you called yourself the president. I'm like, you had so many opportunities to file the paperwork.
Like, you literally have our official backers sign the bars. Backers sign. I'm like, that's the ball's in your court.
[01:14:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah.
[01:14:40] Speaker B: So when were you officially incorporated?
[01:14:43] Speaker D: You know, we met. I think it was officially 2018. We were before COVID and then we obviously fell apart a little bit. During COVID I took a two year hiatus back in Ohio to flip a house and all the fun stuff that I couldn't afford to do in Bend.
I'm from Sandusky originally, so.
[01:15:02] Speaker A: Oh, nice.
[01:15:03] Speaker D: Not too shabby, you know, Cedar Point, obviously, but, you know, Bend is home and my home away from home. Like these back packers people, like, it's so fun. Somebody actually showed up a couple weeks ago. They're like, hey, who knows Susan from this random town in Ohio? And I'm like, that's my mom's cousin. Why are. Like, how does that happen?
[01:15:29] Speaker A: Yeah, but it is. I mean, it's such a small world when it comes to Browns fans and just Ohio people in general.
[01:15:37] Speaker B: We are everywhere.
[01:15:38] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. It's crazy.
[01:15:39] Speaker D: No, it's so true.
[01:15:43] Speaker A: No.
[01:15:43] Speaker D: And being a destination town, you know, I tried to come back and just like I said, my home away from home is here, but northeast Ohio is obviously, like, I'm obnoxious about it out here. Like, I'm known very thoroughly throughout my community, just especially because of the backers stuff.
But people are like, are you wearing that as a joke?
[01:16:05] Speaker A: Absolutely not.
[01:16:07] Speaker D: I would not be wearing this during Owen 16.
[01:16:09] Speaker A: Right.
So with your. With your chapter, what what kind of charities are you guys involved with? I know you guys. I think I saw just this past weekend that there were some raffles and some other things you guys were doing. So.
[01:16:20] Speaker D: Yeah, so we're finally getting our feet off the ground in that. Like I said, being the only one who's done anything up until this year, I had a lot of people finally be like, okay, I'm ready. Like, let's get some stuff rolling. So we finally got some merch going.
A bunch of people donated some raffles.
But I feel like the last two years were the first two years we really ramped it up, like, where we actually, like, tried to market a little more and, you know, had. I had more capacity to be involved throughout that. But we do that. We donate to the Browns foundation, and then we're also working to partner with a local group called Street Dog Hero. So we do want to do, you know, the Dogs for Dogs be able to bring some puppies in. I foster with that organization as well, so. It's just too fun. It's so fun. Our Beach Hut Deli, where we host. You go in the bathroom, and they literally have the dogs of Beach Hut Deli. Dogs are welcome there. It's full on open, like, open seating.
Like I said. Sean and Russ, the owners, are phenomenal.
They treat us great. One was our first week there. Wow.
Was when they played the packers, and he was actually a Packers fan, and he was cheering us on the whole time. He's like, we won, guys. I'm like, I know you won our business because it's 10am on a Sunday, but I love you. They already hung up our flag and everything they give us, you know, they treat us like royalty over there, and we just love the sense of community. Local businesses were, like, sending people downtown. My mom was shopping at halftime, and somebody was like, hey, you got to go down to beach at Deli. There's actually a whole clan of Brownsbackers down there.
So, like, it's just so fun that the community send us over over. Last week, we had people come from another bar that sent him over mid game. They were visiting from Texas, so that was pretty fun. They got to watch the last quarter with us and all that, so it's just so fun to be involved in the community and cry together most Sundays.
[01:18:23] Speaker A: Yeah. How many. How many people do you guys have typically showing up, did you say?
[01:18:28] Speaker D: Probably a dozen to two dozen. And then we just always have so many friends and family. Like, Bend doesn't. Oregon doesn't have an NFL team, so we do have, like, a good amount of Seahawks, we have some Niners, and then we actually have a pretty big Raider nation here.
But nothing is like, overwhelmingly like, we make a debt. We're noticed in our community with our fan group. So, like I said, I'm loud about it.
[01:18:53] Speaker A: Yeah. And the reason that I ask is just simply to a normal person, 12 to 24 people might not sound like a lot of people, but you think about how many Brownsbackers chapters there are. If I'm not mistaken, there's like 400 and some or 300 and some. So let's go on the lower end of that. Twelve times that many. And how many just Browns fans are in random bars around the country, around the world raising money for charity every single week? It's just phenomenal.
[01:19:20] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:19:21] Speaker A: So in.
[01:19:22] Speaker D: In seeing if we actually had, like, if we were winning, how many more consistent people? I think we have at least 100 people in our little tiny mountain town that I could probably name who has been to the group, just hasn't signed up and, you know, follows us or some of some sort. But we make a pretty big dent and it's just, it's so fun to do and like I said, have that home away from home and cry together and tell people, no, it's not a joke.
[01:19:52] Speaker A: Well, I'm sure all of Bend appreciates you guys, but let's get. Let's get to some football questions here real quick, but I think number one that we're going to start with, usually we just go straight into the game and the scores and those types of things, but I got to ask you, you know, you guys get more exposure. Everybody out on the west coast, towards the west coast gets more exposure than we did.
And I'm talking coming up through college to, like, Shador and now obviously starting for the Browns and aim of starter for this week as well.
Just thoughts on Shador, what you thought about this last game and how you think he'll do going forward.
[01:20:29] Speaker D: I'm excited, but it's just.
It's so hard to keep my hopes up. Like, honestly, like, I really do want to see the best, but I need to see a couple more games to get super excited. Like, I love his attitude and I, you know, love to see that he's excited about us. And yes, we're excited about him.
[01:20:51] Speaker C: But.
[01:20:51] Speaker D: We'Re a Browns fan. I got to be a realist. Like, it's just I. I have never bought a quarterback jersey because it's just like every time I do, there's somebody new yeah.
[01:21:04] Speaker B: You've seen this story play out before?
[01:21:06] Speaker A: No.
[01:21:07] Speaker D: Yeah, exactly. I studied sports communication in college and marketing and stuff. Like, I really. My professor, she was never from Ohio, so we had to write a paper a week, and I made it my life mission to make sure she got a new Cleveland sports history history story every single week.
[01:21:25] Speaker A: That's got to be. So that's like a dissertation paper for that class. Like, explain to us in a paper how the Browns are so bad, but you couldn't do it. You couldn't do it, you know?
[01:21:38] Speaker D: And this was over a decade ago. This was well over a decade ago, and it's only gotten worse.
[01:21:43] Speaker B: Still going.
[01:21:44] Speaker A: Still going.
[01:21:45] Speaker D: We were talking in our group last night. We're like, okay. Or at the game on Sunday, we're like, okay, well, we're on. Obviously, number 42, and somebody had a Baker shirt on. And we're like, what number was he? What number do you think he was? And I'm like, okay, maybe like 33. I was thinking mid-30s, 29.
Like, I don't feel like it's been that long.
[01:22:09] Speaker A: That actually hurt. So, you guys, it just crushed me.
[01:22:12] Speaker D: Yeah, I, like, cried a little. And so I actually have a little funko pop of Baker Mayfield that we got in our white elephant gift exchange change. And he sits in my little breezeway and he haunts me. And I'm not going to take him down until we have a quarterback last a season. It probably is. There's my little Browns fan right here. Ellie, you want to say, go Browns.
Here, take mine.
[01:22:37] Speaker A: Gotta love the little ease.
[01:22:39] Speaker C: Oh, man.
[01:22:40] Speaker D: Like I said, she supports me every Sunday. Oh, that's her favorite.
[01:22:44] Speaker A: Yep. Yeah. My daughter, too, so.
But yeah. So you're cautiously optimistic with Shador. You got to see some more. That's actually kind of refreshing. So polarizing right now with Shador. Either most people either love them or hate them. And that's why I had to ask the question is because I expected an answer on either end, and I got an answer in the middle, which is nice. So, yeah.
[01:23:05] Speaker D: And anybody who's in it, like, enthusiastic about us, like, don't get me wrong, I'm like, okay, I'm gun ho. Like, you can see when somebody hates their life playing in Cleveland. Like, yeah, we're like, okay, we get it. We hate our lives, too. We can't control it. Like, I was born in. Into this.
[01:23:23] Speaker A: Like, Mari Cooper, Jerry, Judy.
[01:23:27] Speaker D: No, there's just so many. So, like, the optimism is refreshing, and I do love seeing that.
But like I said, I Got a Seahawks fan tripping in one of my ears and.
Yeah, I got nothing.
[01:23:42] Speaker E: We.
[01:23:42] Speaker A: We get it. We get it. So for this week, though, they got the 49ers. You said you got some fans out there, close spot. So with too many, maybe you're getting a little bit exposure to how they're doing this year.
You know, what's the. How's the game going to go this weekend, you think? The Browns farewell?
[01:24:01] Speaker D: You know, I don't think we're going to win. I think we'll be able to get a couple touchdowns and a field goal, like.
Yeah, maybe like 17 to 24. I think we can hold them off a little bit, but I don't know. I just. Two wins in a row, like Wordy beating last year. That's.
[01:24:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:24:21] Speaker D: To be honest, I don't even think I wanted to wear the shirt because I just felt like I almost jinxed it a little. We had a party a couple weeks ago, and it was. You get to wear something you never get to wear. So most of the girls are wearing like ball gowns and stuff, and they're like, what are you wearing? And I'm like, victory Monday.
[01:24:40] Speaker B: I like that. So I like that the line in the sand is, even if we did have a chance to win, we definitely won't win back to back.
[01:24:47] Speaker D: Yeah. And don't get me wrong, I'm going to be screaming and yelling on Sunday and cussing all the Niners fans out, telling them we're going to win this.
[01:24:57] Speaker A: Perfect.
[01:24:58] Speaker D: So I do. Maybe I'm just feeling a little more realist because it's not Sunday. I don't have my beer in front of me.
[01:25:04] Speaker A: Like, yeah, I get.
[01:25:07] Speaker D: You know how it goes.
[01:25:08] Speaker A: Monday faces down a team that's got a much better record than we are. It's a little hard to get excited, but then come Sunday, most Browns fans are jacked up and ready to go.
[01:25:17] Speaker B: Little liquid courage.
[01:25:17] Speaker D: Well, and it's 10am for us.
[01:25:19] Speaker B: Why would she have you meet her in a bar at 10 in the morning?
I just figured she was a raging alcoholic.
[01:25:28] Speaker D: We wake up in all but two games this year, 10am so, like, we wake up and we go to the bar. They're like, hey, you guys want your normal ipa? We're like.
[01:25:39] Speaker A: Yep, of course. Some of the.
[01:25:41] Speaker D: The backers come in. They're like, it's a tequila kind of morning. I know this is going to bad.
[01:25:47] Speaker A: You guys get kegs and eggs every Sunday.
[01:25:50] Speaker D: Oh, literally, it's. It's brutal. But no, I actually love starting My morning off, like, waking up, hit the ground, run and like going, chrissy's getting crazy over here.
[01:26:01] Speaker A: She's like, I love starting my morning off an IPA, tequila and IPAs. That's how I get going.
[01:26:07] Speaker D: Our first bar used to do bottomless mimosas, and I don't think that was.
[01:26:12] Speaker B: Legal, but breakfast of champions.
[01:26:15] Speaker D: Yeah. They actually were there for us through 0 and 16, our first bar, and when we won that Thursday night game, they made us orange shots, orange jello shots. And they gave them out to us. And we were doing. I know it was baker shots of Baker. Bakers for Baker. And I worked in a bank at the time in business banking. And you bet your ass I showed up in my Browns jersey, slouched all day.
[01:26:41] Speaker A: What they didn't tell you was that they had made those jello shots a year before and they were waiting for us to win, to give them to you.
[01:26:47] Speaker B: They were in the fridge.
[01:26:48] Speaker D: They probably were. But we were so stoked that we didn't give a shit.
[01:26:52] Speaker A: Like, yeah, that's how it goes. That's how it goes. Well, listen, Chrissy, we really appreciate you've been a lot of fun.
We wish we could stay. Stay on and talk to you all night. Unfortunately, we have like a two and a half hour podcast that we put together every week.
[01:27:05] Speaker C: Week.
[01:27:05] Speaker A: Why we're still doing it because we.
[01:27:07] Speaker D: I get it. Hey, I'm surprised my kids left me alone this long, so we did great.
[01:27:12] Speaker A: Yeah. So get back to your kids and then if we're ever out in Bend, Oregon, we will definitely, especially on a game day Sunday, we'll stop by and see you guys and hopefully, please enjoy.
[01:27:23] Speaker D: Please. You got to get out. Yeah, it's an amazing little town. You got to look us up and like I said, come during a game. My parents make sure they fly out every single year to a least have one or two backers games with us.
[01:27:35] Speaker A: So absolutely, we'll make it a point. Thanks, Chrissy.
[01:27:38] Speaker D: Awesome. Great meeting you guys. Go Browns. Happy victory Monday.
[01:27:42] Speaker A: Go Browns.
[01:27:46] Speaker D: We're the Ben Browns Backers, and you're listening to the Burning River Sportscast. Go Browns.
[01:27:54] Speaker A: Good time talking to Chrissy from the Ben Brownsbaggers, huh?
[01:27:57] Speaker B: My wife's name is Chrissy.
[01:27:58] Speaker A: No, it's not.
[01:28:00] Speaker B: Well, everyone calls her that.
[01:28:01] Speaker A: Those people were idiots.
[01:28:02] Speaker B: I don't call her that.
[01:28:03] Speaker A: I sorry for anybody listening that calls her Chrissy.
I don't call her that either.
[01:28:09] Speaker B: Yeah, Chrissy was fun.
[01:28:10] Speaker A: Yeah, she was good.
Good interview.
She's doing a lot of things for that. That Club out there. I mean, it sounds like she's. She's. I like the enthusiasm, and she's just like, I'm gonna do it all.
[01:28:21] Speaker B: I meant to ask, because I always forget, Is it. Is it oregon or Oregon.
[01:28:27] Speaker A: They all pronounce it oregon.
[01:28:29] Speaker B: Is it orego?
I've never. I've never been, and I've never really had the itch to go. But the way she described bend makes it sound like a really nice place, Like, I would be interested in going there.
[01:28:39] Speaker A: I've never gone either, but I've heard really, like, from people that have been to bend. They're like, oh, it's a beautiful place to go.
[01:28:44] Speaker B: You've been. No, Oregon. Oregon.
[01:28:46] Speaker E: We drove. Yeah, we drove through. It was.
[01:28:48] Speaker A: That doesn't count.
[01:28:49] Speaker B: I mean, it's got.
[01:28:50] Speaker E: It was really nice.
[01:28:51] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:28:51] Speaker E: Yeah.
[01:28:52] Speaker A: You at least got to see it. Yeah.
[01:28:53] Speaker E: So, yeah, very scenic. I think she was talking to us, not during the interview, but she's like, oh, a big buck just walked right.
[01:28:59] Speaker A: By my windows after this. Yeah, Yeah, I heard of them.
[01:29:02] Speaker B: She said, I heard. I heard of them.
[01:29:03] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:29:03] Speaker B: Yeah, I do like that they go to a deli.
Yeah, I. I got to check that place.
[01:29:08] Speaker A: I like that, and I like that everybody in town just knows who they are. They're like, oh, those are browns backers.
[01:29:12] Speaker B: This is the browns bar. Yeah.
[01:29:13] Speaker A: Yeah.
But. Yeah. Good time talking.
[01:29:15] Speaker B: Thanks, chrissy.
[01:29:16] Speaker A: Oh, wait. What's that? I think. I think we got another incoming message from brownster knot. I think it's time for mission control with brown.
[01:29:28] Speaker C: T minus 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
[01:29:37] Speaker E: Zero.
[01:29:39] Speaker A: Ignition.
[01:29:41] Speaker B: Liftoff.
Liftoff.
This is braun schnock hauling on the burning river sportscast.
[01:29:50] Speaker C: Do you guys copy? Roger that.
[01:29:53] Speaker B: All right, y', all, buckle up.
[01:29:54] Speaker A: The brownies are back home this week.
[01:29:56] Speaker B: And they're about to shake up the 49ers orbit.
[01:29:58] Speaker C: San Francisco thinks they're heading for a smooth landing.
[01:30:01] Speaker B: Not here.
[01:30:01] Speaker C: Our gravity hits harder than an unblocked miles. Garrett, prepare to watch the 49ers get astronomically embarrassed. I call that perfect timing.
[01:30:17] Speaker A: Brownster knot is back.
He's back better than ever.
[01:30:22] Speaker B: If you say so.
[01:30:25] Speaker A: I don't know what that means.
I'm sorry.
[01:30:27] Speaker E: Brown.
[01:30:28] Speaker B: I love. I love brown.
[01:30:29] Speaker A: I don't know what kenny's trying to do here, but we love brown strip.
I guess with that, let's go ahead and get to the week 13 pre.
You guys do know that every time there's a preview, there's also another edition of kenny's cliff notes. This time for the game against the 49ers.
[01:31:00] Speaker B: Is it time for Kenny's Cliff Notes?
[01:31:01] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what I just said.
[01:31:02] Speaker B: Oh, okay.
[01:31:03] Speaker A: Let's go.
[01:31:04] Speaker B: Let's get to some Cliffs Notes.
[01:31:06] Speaker A: What do you got?
[01:31:07] Speaker B: What do I got? Kyle Shanahan marches his 49ers into town.
[01:31:11] Speaker A: He used to be at the Browns.
[01:31:12] Speaker B: Will they find gold?
I don't know.
They'll be 8 and 4 or 7 and 5 depending on how they finish out on Monday night. Clay Kubiak leads the offense and receipt keeper Robert Sala himself is back as their defensive coordinator.
[01:31:26] Speaker A: He really got me with the Jets.
[01:31:28] Speaker B: The Browns will certainly have their work cut out for them this week. Quarterback Mac Jones filled in admirably for the injured Brock Purdy early in the season, but Brock is back and healthy and looks pretty good. Christian McCaffrey is a five tool player. I don't really know what that means, but he's 13th in rush yards, 15th in receiving yards. Not a running backs of everyone, tied for fourth and total catches and has 11 all purpose touchdowns. Notwithstanding what happens on Monday night, I think he's already scored a couple bullets can't stop Ricky Pierce. All who's part of a capable receiving court with Juwan Jennings and demarcus Robinson. That's because he got shot. He's back though. He's good.
You guys looked like you didn't really get the joke, but.
[01:32:13] Speaker A: He'S doing good now.
[01:32:13] Speaker E: He's.
[01:32:14] Speaker B: He's out there playing.
[01:32:15] Speaker E: That was a good joke.
[01:32:17] Speaker B: I don't know George KD still.
[01:32:20] Speaker A: I was just letting our listeners enjoy the joke. I was trying to keep quiet over.
[01:32:24] Speaker B: Here but George KD still one of the best tight ends in the league and has five touchdown grabs on the year. This offensive line is one of the better units in the league led by stalwart Trent Williams. Browns were going to trade for him at one time they they didn't. Now we have a bad left tackle. They have struggled at times with consistency and pass blocking against premier and elite pass rushers with Nick Bosa and Fred Warner on the IR. The 49ers 25 25th ranked defense has struggled this year and is begging for a competent quarterback to put up some yards. Matt Gay is straight as far as I know but he is their kicker so who knows.
Just joke. Just jokes. Guys, don't cancel me. Just jokes. It's a podcast and Thomas Morad is in his 17th season punting and he probably should give it up after this year as he is currently ranked 28th across active punters It's a tough challenge, but it's also a chance to be legendary. Go Browns.
[01:33:22] Speaker A: Kenny's cliff notes are so thorough. You even get into the kicker and.
[01:33:25] Speaker B: The punter got to cover the specialists.
[01:33:27] Speaker A: They make difference. That's what we do on the Burning.
[01:33:29] Speaker B: River special, all three phases of the game.
[01:33:31] Speaker A: Absolutely. Absolutely.
And with every edition of Kenny's cliff Notes, you get another edition of row Jam matchups that matter.
[01:33:48] Speaker E: All right.
[01:33:48] Speaker A: For Ronnie Jam's matchups that matter. I got two of them for you. Two? Yeah.
[01:33:52] Speaker B: You don't say.
[01:33:52] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:33:53] Speaker B: Nice.
[01:33:54] Speaker A: Number one. I'm leaving this on here the rest of the season because it's Myles Garrett versus the offensive line.
Myles Garrett is doing something that's never been done before. And barring injury, Miles Garrett is going to shatter the sack record and it's going to be glorious. And I predicted this.
[01:34:14] Speaker B: So shattered sack is a bad thing to have.
[01:34:18] Speaker A: Yes. Unless you're the guy that shatters the sacks.
[01:34:21] Speaker B: I guess so.
[01:34:24] Speaker A: So Miles Garrett versus the offensive line. I want to see how many more you can get.
And then the second one, it's the obvious one, but it is what it is. Shador Sanders versus the 49ers secondary.
Quin, Sean Quinn, Shine should soften the D a little bit.
[01:34:40] Speaker B: Here we go.
We are off the rails. Here we go, boys.
[01:34:45] Speaker A: Free some things up for Shador against an already bottom tier secondary. So this game, I mean, honestly, I know the 49ers are a much better team record wise than the Raiders, but this really couldn't line up much better for Store Sanders as far as strengths and weaknesses of the opponent for his second start. So in summary here, the 49ers are coming off a Monday night matchup with the Panthers. It's happening as we're recording this.
So as Kenny mentioned, they'll either be 7 and 5 or 8 and 4 and it's still closer. It's only a one score game right now, so.
And I think we're in the third quarter.
[01:35:19] Speaker B: There goes Ricky Pearsall.
[01:35:21] Speaker E: Fourth quarter, fourth quarter.
[01:35:22] Speaker A: Okay.
On defense, overall they're number 25 in the NFL. Number 28 against the pass, number 12 against the run. On offense, they're number 10 in the NFL. Number 27 rushing game. And their passing game is number two.
So bring in a pretty good rushing game here.
And then the Browns.
I'm sorry, I flipped those. My bad. The rushing game is 27. The passing game is number two. They gotta go good passing game. Do not have a good rushing game. And then the Browns coming off A loss to the. To the confused.
[01:35:55] Speaker B: Their rushing game is 27th in the NFL with Christian McCaffrey.
[01:35:59] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:35:59] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:36:01] Speaker A: That's what I said.
[01:36:03] Speaker B: All right.
[01:36:03] Speaker A: That's what they told me.
I guess I'll have to fact check that again.
[01:36:08] Speaker B: I was confused.
Carry on.
[01:36:10] Speaker A: Okay. And then the Browns, coming off a win against the Raiders, we are now three, three and eight.
Defensively, we ranked number two in the NFL, number 14 against the run and number one against the pass.
And then offensively, we're still not good. We're getting better, though.
Number 31.
Actually, I think we stayed the same. Number 31 overall, number 26, rushing game. And our passing game ranks number 31. So the Browns are awful. Kevin Stefanski is still the coach. Bubba Ventrone is still our special teams coordinator, but Dylan Gabriel is no longer our quarterback. Shador Sanders is. So we have a sliver.
Sliver of hope, and there's always a way to win. So let's go ahead and bring in the big Bone man, because it's time for Bone man.
[01:36:58] Speaker B: Skeleton key to victory.
[01:37:05] Speaker E: Yeah, when I. I did quick check the. The Rock running game for San Francisco, the stat I saw said 28th, so I think you said 27th, so it's actually. Yeah, that's kind of surprising. There you go for them. But I got to go back to turnovers this week.
San Francisco is still a pretty good team, but they're traveling to Cleveland on a short week, and I think we're going to need to turn over some type of either defense touchdown or just putting us in position to get points. So Miles with another strip sack, whatever it is, interception, our defense is fully capable of doing that. So let's get some. Some turnovers that lead to some points.
[01:37:47] Speaker B: Add turnovers to the pressure.
[01:37:49] Speaker A: I like it.
[01:37:51] Speaker B: That's the skeleton key to victory.
[01:37:53] Speaker A: There it is. He's been Nostradamus this year.
[01:37:56] Speaker B: Turnovers.
[01:37:56] Speaker A: Yeah, I think that's like the eighth time he's used turnovers. But we won't go there.
[01:38:02] Speaker E: It's an easy one, folks.
[01:38:04] Speaker A: Kenny, what's the betting info on this game?
[01:38:07] Speaker B: I can tell you, and I would say these are probably subject to change based on tonight's performance.
Obviously, like, injuries and things haven't been factored into these. So these are preliminary lines, but the line right now is 49ers minus six and a half over under 41 and a half.
[01:38:23] Speaker A: Disrespect for Cleveland all season long is warranted.
[01:38:26] Speaker B: It is warranted.
[01:38:29] Speaker A: And so players to watch this week. I'll start because I'M keep again. I'm keeping this probably most of the rest of the season because I said he's breaking the sack record. So until he does, I'm going to stick with Miles Garrett. He's the most exciting thing on this team. I know. Shador Sanders. Pretty exciting now, sue, but Miles Garrett is the most exciting thing to watch because if we haven't said it enough, you're in the midst of a historical season.
He's going to break the sack record. He's going to not just break, he's going to shatter it. I mean, I predicted. I thought it was insane at the time. And I said this on our live show. I thought it was insane at the beginning of the season when I said he's getting 30 sacks.
[01:39:06] Speaker B: I think I made this face.
[01:39:09] Speaker A: Yeah. And to be in week 13 now, like we're getting towards the end of the season and we're talking about that's a real possibility.
That's just insane to think about. So I'm sticking with Miles Garrett. Kenny, who's your. Who's your player to watch?
[01:39:22] Speaker B: I'm sticking with Shador.
[01:39:25] Speaker A: Dudes.
[01:39:25] Speaker B: Legendary. That's it. That's it. No. He's gonna test this week. You win. You silence a lot of haters.
If you beat a team that's won seven, eight games this year. Like, you can miss me with the Shadur Sanders hate the rest of the way because this is a chance to, to really go out and make a statement and you can bring the whole damn place down. Yeah, the, the, the entire home crowd, the entire Kevin Stefanski house of cards comes tumbling down if you beat a team like San Francisco.
[01:39:55] Speaker A: Hell yes.
Bone who you got?
[01:39:57] Speaker E: All right, I'm going to go. Isaiah Bond. You know, we. We saw that connection between Shador and Boden this past week and it was freaking exciting.
So I want to see more of that. Just more opportunities down the field to the speedy wide receiver. And yeah, it's just exciting. So let's. Let's see Isaiah Bond get in the end zone.
[01:40:17] Speaker B: Isaiah Bond has been a non factor because Dylan Gabriel physically couldn't throw the ball far enough to get to him.
[01:40:21] Speaker A: True, true.
So with that, let's go ahead and get into another edition of. Can we talk about this?
All right. We use this segment when one of us has something that they feel needs to be talked about and explored further this week. It's a quick one. Bop it. Why the hell is that game so sexual? Who came up with that?
[01:40:46] Speaker B: It's a game for eight year olds.
[01:40:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:40:48] Speaker C: Bop It.
[01:40:48] Speaker A: Spin it.
[01:40:49] Speaker C: Pull it.
[01:40:50] Speaker A: Lick it. Tug it, Tap it.
[01:40:52] Speaker B: Slide it.
[01:40:52] Speaker A: Push it. Whack it.
Suck it.
[01:40:57] Speaker B: It's just whoever invented that, it was.
[01:41:01] Speaker E: Man, I love that game.
[01:41:02] Speaker B: The biggest per.
[01:41:03] Speaker A: It was a good game I played. We played that for hours when I was little. Like, you just got that thing. You're like, oh, you had no idea.
[01:41:09] Speaker B: That you were being groomed.
[01:41:11] Speaker E: Tap it.
[01:41:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
Wild. Wild. So anybody else think this game's sexual?
[01:41:16] Speaker B: Yeah, it was very sexual.
[01:41:18] Speaker A: Yeah. It's weird.
[01:41:20] Speaker B: It's weird for a kids game.
[01:41:21] Speaker A: That's it. That's all I wanted to talk about.
It's time for King of the North.
You ready?
[01:41:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:41:42] Speaker E: All right.
[01:41:43] Speaker A: In case anyone doesn't know by now, this is a year long AFC north pickup competition. At the end of the season, whoever comes in last place gets punished. At the end of the season, whoever comes in last place gets punished.
[01:41:52] Speaker B: Just gonna repeat yourself and you're stuck.
[01:41:54] Speaker A: In a Lou in the pres.
In the preseason two years ago, Kenny had a gross of eggs thrown at him by fans in the muni lot before a game. In the preseason last year, Kenny had his hair and beard shaved clean off a few weeks ago for losing. This past season, Kenny donned the pads for the first time in almost 20 years and got hit three times by our guy, big John Hughes.
Kenny, how'd that feel?
[01:42:13] Speaker B: One of the worst things that ever happened to me.
[01:42:14] Speaker A: You fully recovered?
[01:42:16] Speaker B: Mostly.
[01:42:17] Speaker A: So no.
And this year, the loser will be getting a Brazilian wax. Kenny, you excited about this?
[01:42:23] Speaker B: I might get a Hawaiian wax instead.
Just the Dylan Gabriel.
[01:42:27] Speaker A: We should have just went full naked. Mole rat. You should have just got shaved all over it. Like, not shaved, but like waxed.
[01:42:32] Speaker B: Shave my whole body?
[01:42:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:42:33] Speaker B: That would have taken hours. And I'm not even that hairy.
[01:42:36] Speaker A: Still would have been funny.
I'd have laughed at you. You'd have cried.
[01:42:40] Speaker B: That would have been terrible.
[01:42:41] Speaker A: But let's go ahead and get into this. First things. We have a weird thing about taking hair off of people.
[01:42:47] Speaker B: Quit taking my hair off.
[01:42:49] Speaker A: First things first. I want to remind everyone that Bone is the reigning defending King of the North.
Two time. Two time. He's back to back right now. So he went back to back with John Hughes, by the way.
[01:42:59] Speaker B: He did.
[01:43:00] Speaker E: Feels real good. Ronnie, jam in a urinal.
[01:43:03] Speaker A: Also, Kenny, you're a clown. Let's remind everyone of our current record through week 12, bone. 25 and 13. I'm at 24 and 14. John's at 23 and 15. And Kenny, you suck. You're at 919 and 19, at least. You're 500, though.
[01:43:16] Speaker B: Thank you.
[01:43:17] Speaker A: Let's go ahead and get into this week's games.
First up, the Ravens host the Bengals. Bone, what do you think, man?
[01:43:25] Speaker E: Joey B's back. Jamar's back.
Bengals still suck.
I think Lamar's hurt. God, he's played so bad the last two weeks.
They are home, though. I'll go Ravens. Their defense has picked it. Picked it up. Ravens.
[01:43:42] Speaker A: Kenny, who you got?
[01:43:44] Speaker B: The Lamar injury certainly is interesting, especially with Joe Burrow.
Most likely is coming back, I guess, this week.
[01:43:53] Speaker A: No, they confirmed it. He is.
[01:43:55] Speaker B: Thanks. Thanksgiving night, Right? This is Thursday night matchup.
I have to imagine this will be, you know, big platform, prime time. Joe Burrow, that defense is still really bad, and Baltimore just can't afford to lose. I'll go Ravens.
[01:44:12] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm. I'm.
I'm kind of right there with you guys. As far as the Bengals go, their defense, really bad. Their offensive line is really bad.
This one's hard, though, because Lamar is hurt. Now Joe Burrow is back. Jamar Chase is back, like you said.
[01:44:30] Speaker E: Yeah.
[01:44:30] Speaker A: Let's not forget the Raven. Even though their defense has picked it up lately, the Ravens defense still is not good. They're like a civ. They just give up points like crazy. So I think this is going to be, like, just an insane shootout. Like, I'm talking, like, you remember how the Browns, like, every couple years, used to have a shootout with the Bengals, and it would be like, 4239. Like, it's. It's one of those games to me.
[01:44:49] Speaker B: Bengals can score points.
[01:44:51] Speaker A: Yeah. So I'm. I'm going to go Bengals in this one. I think Joe Burrow comes back and gets it done on Thanksgiving. So I'm going to go Bangles.
[01:45:01] Speaker B: Well, you are a turkey.
[01:45:03] Speaker A: Thank you.
Next up, Pittsburgh hosts the Bills. But Bone, who you got?
[01:45:11] Speaker E: Pittsburgh at home. Let's do.
I guess the Bills had a rough week as well.
We'll go. I'll go Bills.
[01:45:19] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:45:20] Speaker E: I think Bill's. Get it done.
[01:45:21] Speaker A: Okay. Okay. Kenny, who you got?
[01:45:24] Speaker B: Yeah, Bill's coming off a loss to the Texans.
That's ugly.
But they're the better team here. I gotta go Buffalo.
[01:45:36] Speaker A: I'm right there with you guys. I really wanted to pick Pittsburgh just because they got. They're starting to get to the point where they got to win to stay above.500 for Mike Tomlin, but I just think the Bills are the better team. I think this. I think the Steelers are indeed frauds, and it's starting to show. I mean, what is this will be like their fourth loss in a row or something like that?
[01:45:55] Speaker B: Credit card fraud.
[01:45:56] Speaker A: Sure.
All right, so we all took the bills there. And then finally the Browns host the 49ers. Kenny, we're starting with you.
[01:46:06] Speaker B: The 49ers are a good football team.
They can score on offense at will.
Brock Purdy's looked sharp since coming back from injury, but Brown's got that X factor right now. I think Shador turns win into wins this week and makes the statement that he is indeed legendary.
I'll go Brown's 30, 20.
[01:46:34] Speaker A: Whoa. You think he steps it up? We score even more points.
[01:46:37] Speaker B: I know that this offense was capable of scoring more than 24 last week and that they took their foot off the gas. I think in this game you're going to have to keep pace. I think it will be a scoring.
I don't know if it's a high scoring affair, but it'll be a scoring affair. Cheating on your spouse with Shador Sanders.
[01:46:55] Speaker A: All right, listen, I'm going to be honest with you coming into to the show and I'm talking like before we got here and everybody sat down and, you know, we, we talk Browns as we finish prepping for the show.
[01:47:08] Speaker B: It's all we talk about.
[01:47:09] Speaker A: Yeah, I was set on taking the 49ers.
I just thought that this team is bad. Kevin Stefanski is still your head coach.
Bubba Venturon is still your special teams corps coordinator.
Offensive line is bad. Our receivers are bad.
[01:47:33] Speaker B: But our defense is really good.
[01:47:34] Speaker A: Our defense is so really, really good. They're so good. Brock Purdy hasn't looked like Brock Purdy since he's thrown three interceptions against Carolina.
Guys, I think you talked me into it. I think I'm going Browns in this one.
[01:47:51] Speaker B: What an idiot.
[01:47:54] Speaker A: And I agree with you.
I said it earlier. This, this game couldn't line up any better for Shador Sanders to follow up with another win because their, their past defense is poor.
They. They don't run the ball. I mean, they don't run the ball particularly. What did I say their rushing offense was like 27th, 28th. Yeah. So, yeah, I don't know. And our, our defense is just so good. They get after the quarterback like crazy. Brock Purdy's throwing three interceptions tonight. I think they're gonna. I think Miles Gary gets another, another two sacks or so.
I'm going Browns. There's a long winded way to say I'm going Brown. I'm trying to figure out a score right now. In my head.
[01:48:35] Speaker B: Good thing you're prepared.
[01:48:36] Speaker A: I'm going to go. Well, you guys swung me in the last like however many how long we've been talking about this. I'm going to go.
I'm with you, Kenny. I'm going to go. 31, 24 Browns.
[01:48:52] Speaker B: I like it.
[01:48:53] Speaker A: So Bone, who you got in this one.
[01:48:58] Speaker E: After. Yeah, after listening to the preview.
[01:49:02] Speaker B: Our preview.
[01:49:03] Speaker E: Yeah, yeah. And I don't know.
I'm definitely a Browns homer. So it also sways me.
We beat Pittsburgh two years ago with P.J. walker. I just, I continue to bring that up.
[01:49:16] Speaker C: Pittsburgh?
[01:49:16] Speaker A: You mean the 49ers.
[01:49:17] Speaker E: Sorry.
[01:49:17] Speaker B: Yeah, we be.
[01:49:18] Speaker E: Yeah.
[01:49:18] Speaker A: They were undefeated at the time, by the way.
[01:49:20] Speaker E: They were undefeated team. Nobody thought we would win and our defense just played stellar that game and I think they're going to do that again. I think our defense is even better than they were that year and we have a better quarterback than we did that year and I think the Browns pull it out. I short week for the 49ers coming to Ohio.
I think our team's going to want it more.
So I'm going. Browns 24, 49ers 17.
[01:49:48] Speaker A: Oh boy.
[01:49:51] Speaker B: This is wild.
Three of us picked the Browns against one of the better teams in the nfc.
[01:49:57] Speaker A: What are we thinking? What a bunch of idiots. People are listening to this are like, well, you just lost all credibility.
[01:50:02] Speaker E: I mean I admitted I'm a homer.
[01:50:03] Speaker A: Listen, here's the deal. Like you could. What really swung me is when you were talking about there's very few guys that come along that just have it and you can't, you can't quantify it. There's no way to describe it. It's just that the players around them get excited to play with them, respond to. And the fact that the Browns. We talked about it earlier, the fact that the Browns sideline had so much fun last game energy and it was before they were even up. I know they got up quick but like it was before that, like it coming out just as they started the game, guys were fired up, guys were involved on the sideline up, cheering, yelling, whatever the case may be. And it's just a completely different looking team with Shador Sanders starting.
[01:50:45] Speaker B: So they just think they have a chance. Chance.
I mean even going back to the Baltimore game, which wasn't a good day for Shador, you had a chance at the end of that game. Yeah, I mean it wasn't Shadora's fault necessarily. They lost at the end of the game.
[01:50:58] Speaker A: I mean his haters will tell you it was.
[01:51:00] Speaker B: He did his job. He put the ball on guys. I mean that was. That's all you can ask for is an offense. Is. Is an offense or a defense, we have a chance to win at the end of the game.
[01:51:08] Speaker A: Yep. So yeah, I mean it'll be wild to see what happens. But I think. I think right on schedule and I.
[01:51:16] Speaker B: Do think this defense can play with anybody. This defense is good enough to take on any offense in the NFL.
[01:51:21] Speaker A: Oh yeah.
[01:51:21] Speaker B: And make them look bad.
[01:51:22] Speaker A: Every week, every game we go in, I'm like, our defense is going to do their job.
[01:51:25] Speaker B: I mean this defense, this defense has almost beat several teams by themselves while Dylan Gabriel was the starter.
[01:51:32] Speaker A: That's what gives me.
[01:51:33] Speaker B: They just needed a little bit of help.
[01:51:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:51:36] Speaker B: And help has arrived. He is the one we have been waiting for.
[01:51:40] Speaker A: He is the one we've been waiting for. I hope so.
[01:51:42] Speaker D: He.
[01:51:42] Speaker E: He is the one. You need to insert Morpheus in here.
[01:51:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
But with that, let me remind everybody to call the burning sportscast.
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[01:51:54] Speaker B: We want hot takes.
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[01:52:07] Speaker B: Kick you right in the hassle Muslims.
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That'll do it for us. Kenny, what can we expect next week?
[01:52:19] Speaker B: We will be live on Sunday night. Look for us live on YouTube, Facebook and X and maybe Instagram as we recap.
[01:52:27] Speaker A: Couldn't get it going.
[01:52:28] Speaker B: Figure it out. You're not. Maybe that's your job.
As we recap the week 13 matches up against the 49ers should be right on around about 9:30. And then next Thursday we'll back with our week 14 preview episode for our game against the Titans. Another winnable game with another Browns backers interview, TBD and all the other things. You listen to the burner sportscast for like the same takes over and over and over and over and over again.
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[01:53:28] Speaker B: Wow. Was that all one breath?
[01:53:29] Speaker A: Yeah.
You know what that takes us to ks?
[01:53:34] Speaker B: Four days.
Thanks for days.
[01:53:50] Speaker A: What do you got?
[01:53:51] Speaker B: Here's the deal. I know everybody is on their way to Thanksgiving lunch or dinner. Make Thanksgiving lunch again.
So we're going to keep this brief. We're just going to run through these, get them out of the way so you can go have your turkey. Number one, Donald Duck. And you know Donald Duck?
[01:54:05] Speaker E: Yeah.
[01:54:06] Speaker B: Has appeared in the most Disney movies.
197 of them. Which is more it's quite a few than Mickey Mouse at 167.
[01:54:16] Speaker A: Oh my 30 is not even fucking close.
[01:54:18] Speaker B: We're moving along. Number two.
[01:54:19] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:54:20] Speaker B: The tallest.
Sorry, you can talk about it.
[01:54:24] Speaker A: Nope, nope. I got nothing.
[01:54:25] Speaker B: The tallest giraffe in the world.
[01:54:27] Speaker A: What's all this I'm hearing about not wearing the beauty rings?
[01:54:29] Speaker B: Is named Forrest and he lives in the Australia Zoo in Queensland, Australia.
He is a towering 18ft 8 inches tall.
[01:54:43] Speaker A: You mean forest. Doesn't live in the forest?
[01:54:45] Speaker B: He probably did at one point. Well, I don't know. He might have been born in captivity a lot of times.
Well, they see day, just not outside captivity.
[01:54:53] Speaker C: It does.
[01:54:53] Speaker B: It is daytime.
[01:54:54] Speaker E: Shut up.
[01:54:55] Speaker B: We're moving on time. Number three.
Cleopatra.
[01:55:00] Speaker A: I didn't know this.
[01:55:01] Speaker B: We were going there from here.
[01:55:03] Speaker A: I don't know how we got here. Everywhere got cats. Is this a cat thing?
[01:55:06] Speaker B: No, it's a Cleopatra thing.
[01:55:08] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:55:09] Speaker B: Cleopatra's lifetime sits closer to the moon landing in 1969 than it does to the construction of the Great Pyramid.
[01:55:19] Speaker A: Good fact. Everybody knows that one.
[01:55:21] Speaker B: Idiot. I didn't know that. The pyramid was completed around 2560 BCE and Cleopatra lived from.
Everybody knows it. What? How's that one?
Moon landing? Oh, yeah.
[01:55:34] Speaker A: It's like a couple hundred B.C.
[01:55:36] Speaker B: A couple hundred. It was actually 69 B.C. to 30 B.C.
[01:55:40] Speaker A: That'S what I said.
[01:55:42] Speaker E: I heard she was a real beauty.
[01:55:45] Speaker A: And that's Maxwell. For days.
[01:55:47] Speaker B: For days.
[01:55:49] Speaker A: What happened Here.
[01:55:50] Speaker B: I don't know. You ruined my facts for days.
[01:55:53] Speaker A: Well, feels bad.
[01:55:56] Speaker B: Does it though?
Feels good to be done.
[01:55:59] Speaker E: Yeah.
[01:56:00] Speaker B: We did it. We did it.
[01:56:01] Speaker A: We did it, boys.
[01:56:01] Speaker B: The Browns did it. Shador did it. We all did it. We did.
Bop it.
[01:56:06] Speaker A: Bop it. Pull it.
[01:56:08] Speaker B: Did it.
[01:56:08] Speaker A: Suck it. Crack it, do it.
Slap it, flip it.
[01:56:11] Speaker B: I'm out of things. I say slide it.
[01:56:13] Speaker A: Hump it, Touch it, Lick it.
[01:56:17] Speaker E: Bon appetit it.
See, I slip that in there.
[01:56:21] Speaker A: He slipped it in.
[01:56:22] Speaker B: Slipped it in the back door. Yeah, don't just be a part of the problem, B the whole damn problem.
[01:56:26] Speaker A: And only you can prevent river fires.
[01:56:30] Speaker B: Oh, burning river sports. Burning river sports Cat.
Give a damn for the whole state of Michigan the whole state of Michigan the whole state of Michigan we don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan Cuz we're from Ohio we're from Ohio oh, We're from Ohio IO. We don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan we're from Ohio Happy Thanksgiving, Cleveland.
[01:57:08] Speaker A: Good night, Cleveland.
[01:57:10] Speaker E: Good night, Akron.
[01:57:15] Speaker A: Quiet on set. I now have two loves in my life.
Big city living and a voodoo woman named Phyllis. I didn't think we'd be getting into Brad Pitt.
[01:57:29] Speaker B: I can't even say I didn't think we'd be getting into Brad Pitt's ass.
[01:57:33] Speaker A: Yeah, didn't think we'd get in there.
[01:57:35] Speaker B: We talk a lot of analingus on this show.
[01:57:38] Speaker A: So put your right foot in and take your right foot out. Then put your right foot in and shut the hell up. Because it's not time for the hokey pokey. It's time for the burning river sports cab.
[01:57:48] Speaker D: Motorboat.
[01:57:49] Speaker A: You play the motorboat.
You motorboat.
[01:57:53] Speaker B: Instead of a fish, you hold sealer.
[01:57:54] Speaker C: You. You.
[01:57:55] Speaker B: You know, I was thinking during that interview.
[01:57:56] Speaker E: What?
[01:57:57] Speaker A: What were you think? Nothing. Cuz you don't have thoughts cuz you're a brainless idiot.
[01:58:01] Speaker B: Wow.
[01:58:02] Speaker A: My name is Utred, Son of Utred, by the way. I want my foreskin back. It doesn't matter what you think.
[01:58:08] Speaker B: Women's Guide to To Anal Sex and it was the second edition. Who makes second edition?
[01:58:14] Speaker E: The weather outside is weather.
[01:58:16] Speaker A: The other one.
[01:58:17] Speaker B: The finger.
[01:58:17] Speaker A: The finger. Eating food. Fingers.
[01:58:19] Speaker C: Oh my God.
[01:58:20] Speaker A: God, my ass is full of he everywhere.
[01:58:25] Speaker E: Yes.
[01:58:25] Speaker B: Ejaculate all over my body and my genitals.
[01:58:28] Speaker E: Yes.
[01:58:28] Speaker A: Oh no.
We suck again.
[01:58:31] Speaker E: You don't need fundamentals when you got heart.
[01:58:34] Speaker B: And Jesus.
[01:58:35] Speaker A: And Jesus.
[01:58:36] Speaker E: That's right.
[01:58:36] Speaker A: Touchdown. Anyway.
[01:58:38] Speaker D: What do you mean funny? Funny how? How am I funny?
[01:58:40] Speaker A: It's going down. I'm yelling.
[01:58:42] Speaker B: Timber.
[01:58:44] Speaker D: Call them cats.
[01:58:46] Speaker A: Should we start a meat podcast? Like, like, like, like the meat pod Slow roasted.
[01:58:54] Speaker B: The leads are weak. Leads are weak.
[01:58:58] Speaker A: Leads are weak.
[01:58:59] Speaker C: You're weak.
[01:59:00] Speaker B: That we should send a team of oil core drillers a la Armageddon to Mars to have them access the newly discovered reservoirs of water traps 7 to 12 miles under the surface that when released, will cover the entirety of everything on the planet less than a mile high.
[01:59:09] Speaker A: All I do is win, win, win, no matter what. Erroneous. Erroneous on both counts. I mean, when I. Last year, when I won and went home, you know, my wife's pants hit the ground.
[01:59:19] Speaker B: Wow. But damn, I'm sorry I hijacked your segment for a second to do some good podcasting.
[01:59:26] Speaker A: You know why, mister?
[01:59:27] Speaker B: Because you drove a Hyundai.
[01:59:28] Speaker A: To get here tonight, I drove an $80,000 BMW. That's my name. I think we've officially lost all of our more conservative viewers, so I don't think they want to listen any longer.
[01:59:40] Speaker D: This is.
[01:59:41] Speaker C: This is.
[01:59:41] Speaker E: It's Mother Nature.
[01:59:42] Speaker A: I live my life a quarter mile at a time.
[01:59:45] Speaker B: Where's logo girl when you need her? I desperately want to make love. We need cheese girl. Now.
Who's canceled now?
Who's canceled now?
[01:59:57] Speaker A: Probably me.
[01:59:57] Speaker B: You making it for the fat people.
[02:00:00] Speaker A: I'm not just you.
[02:00:02] Speaker B: We're whole race, basically.
[02:00:05] Speaker A: No way. You're just straight. Just finger bang their salad.
[02:00:11] Speaker E: You first get shocked and then you get the shocker.
[02:00:16] Speaker B: You like to see almost naked.
[02:00:18] Speaker A: That's cool, man.
[02:00:18] Speaker E: Whatever. No, no, no, no, no.
[02:00:20] Speaker A: Most people like they're driving along and they're like in between meals, they're like.
[02:00:23] Speaker B: I'm a little hungry.
[02:00:24] Speaker A: I'm gonna have a granola bar. And it's like, I need a cheeseburger.
Entertained.
Are you not entertained?
[02:00:34] Speaker C: Is this not why you were here?
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