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It's time.
[00:01:12] Speaker B: Time for the Burning River Sportscast. Another week, another winnable game, another loss. 1 and 4 has a familiar ring to it as Kevin Stefanski continues his all gas, no brakes transition into Hugh Jackson.
Until this week, I was convinced that Kevin could punch a nun in the face on live television and there'd be a strong contingent of Browns fans staunchly defending Kevin's right to extend his arms anywhere he damn well pleases. But something has finally stirred this fan base and the tide seems to be turning for the first time. It's a tale as old as time in Cleveland, and once you lose the fan base, that locker room can't be far behind. And once both are gone, Jimmy's hand might finally be forced to release the Stefanski Berry chokehold on power in Berea. So do the right thing, Jimmy. Deliver us from this evil. But most importantly, save the nuns. And we'll break it all down for you. Next on the Burning River Sportscast.
[00:02:13] Speaker C: Now he's. Yeah. He's got butt. Fumble and beats up old people.
[00:02:16] Speaker A: Go Browns.
[00:02:17] Speaker B: My mother. We're gonna bring the bang. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
[00:02:23] Speaker A: Let's go on, Browns.
[00:02:24] Speaker B: See, it was a better joke than you gave it credit for.
[00:02:26] Speaker A: Yeah. See.
[00:02:30] Speaker B: Is that what you want to hear? Rounds nation.
Did you enjoy that?
[00:02:39] Speaker C: I've never seen a dead body, like, randomly before.
[00:02:42] Speaker B: Y' all want to see a dead body? I would love to see some desperation from Kevin Stefanski. Act like your job is on the line.
[00:02:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:02:49] Speaker B: Let's get this dog, Cleveland. Send this dog shit back home.
[00:02:52] Speaker A: Did you just call him Dylan Dinkin dunk?
[00:02:54] Speaker C: I like that.
[00:02:56] Speaker B: Is that not fair?
[00:02:57] Speaker C: Dylan Dinkin dunk.
[00:02:58] Speaker A: We all have sacks. We know how much sweat really gets in there and how disgusting that gets.
[00:03:03] Speaker B: Like the offense is dastardly. Puka is the tops.
[00:03:08] Speaker A: What are you saying right now?
You like that?
[00:03:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:03:13] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:03:14] Speaker A: It ends tonight.
[00:03:17] Speaker C: It ends tonight.
[00:03:25] Speaker B: Welcome in to the Burning River Sportscast, presented by the fine folks at Tappin Media. I'm Kenny Thunder, joined today by a man who wouldn't know federalism if he wrote the Federalist Papers himself. He's red hot. Ronnie Jams.
[00:03:39] Speaker C: What an insult.
[00:03:40] Speaker B: As someone who's actually read all 85 of the Federalist Papers, I knew that one would gut you.
[00:03:45] Speaker A: I have read that.
I mean, I just accepted. I was partying the whole time you were introducing me. I just, I don't fight back anymore. That's good. It felt bad, but I just. I just accepted.
[00:03:55] Speaker B: Bullied into yeah, on the board today, he's filled with more rage than a coyote on cocaine. He's the big bone man. Bone. Did you hear about the kidnapping in Akron over the weekend?
[00:04:06] Speaker C: No, I didn't.
[00:04:07] Speaker B: It's okay. He woke up.
[00:04:09] Speaker A: I knew it was coming. I've told that joke so many times.
[00:04:12] Speaker B: Back to red hot. Where can our listeners find the dopest dope they ever heard on a podcast? The number one ranked football podcast and all the good pods as well is the unofficial podcast of Cleveland Browns backers everywhere.
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But on today's show, this is what you can look forward to. Hot takes from the Hot take hotline. Browns news so far this week, there's a lot of it.
More messages from Macho fan and brownstronaut Division roundup and King of the north with John Hughes. An interview with another Brownsbackers chapter, the Belmont Dog Pound this week and of course, the week six preview for the game against the Steelers. And now, Kenny, usually you tell the jokes here, but I've got one for you.
[00:05:32] Speaker E: Ready?
[00:05:32] Speaker B: I'm ready.
[00:05:33] Speaker A: What's the difference between jelly and Jam.
[00:05:37] Speaker B: I'm not sure, Smuckers.
[00:05:38] Speaker A: You can't jelly your wiener into a butthole.
Yeah, he likes it.
[00:05:43] Speaker C: Straight to the point.
[00:05:44] Speaker B: Fair enough.
[00:05:45] Speaker A: All right, let's get things started with.
[00:05:46] Speaker B: The Burning river news story of the week.
[00:05:59] Speaker A: All right, this week's Burning Renew story of the week. Mark Sanchez. What the up with that guy?
[00:06:06] Speaker B: Dude, this story just gets more and more bizarre the more. And it gets tales that come out.
[00:06:10] Speaker A: And it's worse and worse for him at every turn.
Like, so basically he just was belligerently drunk and wandered onto a loading dock and started harassing a. A 69 year old truck driver.
[00:06:25] Speaker B: Body slamming him, right? Like he was like manhandling.
[00:06:29] Speaker C: Is there a video of the fight?
[00:06:30] Speaker A: Yeah, they have the whole start to finish.
And yeah, he's just like, starts roughing him up and finally the guy is like, I'm gonna die. It just pulls his knife out and stabs him three times.
And he's in his interview, he's like, he kept coming at me. I almost had to stab him again. And then he finally got a look of shock in his face and just ran away.
[00:06:50] Speaker C: That is wild. You think there is more than alcohol involved? Probably PCP or something.
[00:06:55] Speaker B: I mean, he was definitely blazed out of his mind.
I just. It's just like the, the evolution of this story was when it first came out.
[00:07:02] Speaker A: They're just like.
[00:07:03] Speaker B: It was like o. Mark Sanchez in the hospital, was stabbed. And I'm like, whoa, that's crazy. And they're like, he's gonna miss the game. And I was like, all right. And then the next thing it was like, Mark Sanchez is being arrested in the hospital.
[00:07:15] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:07:15] Speaker A: Well, then the cops went like the, the story as it keeps developing. The cops went in there to ask him what happened. He's like, I have no idea.
[00:07:22] Speaker B: Right.
[00:07:22] Speaker A: I got, I got nothing. I have no idea where I was. I have no idea who did this. I just know that I'm stabbed.
[00:07:28] Speaker B: I was trying to explain this to my wife who doesn't know who Mark Sanchez is. And I was explaining like real clean cut guy. Like, I was explaining like, you know, he fumble like a dream, dream job, right? Like this is, this is it. Like in the sports world to get a job talking about football, you 20 weeks a year and you get paid a ridiculous amount of money to do it and be on tv. Like, you don't get a better gig than that anywhere.
[00:07:51] Speaker A: Nope.
[00:07:52] Speaker B: But then to like, to devolve into this, like, it's just like so quickly like, what are you doing with your life?
[00:07:58] Speaker A: Nobody expected this, so it was. It just happened like instantly.
[00:08:02] Speaker B: Like, burn it to the ground. He was always a pretty clean guy. Like, he didn't really have anything in his background that was questionable. He was always a nice guy. Fumble. I mean, the butt Fumble.
[00:08:12] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:08:12] Speaker A: And you should have known there was something wrong with him when he butt fumbled.
[00:08:15] Speaker B: And to be fair, even after all the embarrassment of this story, the Butt Fumble is still probably the worst thing that's ever happened to him.
[00:08:20] Speaker C: I would. I would agree. I actually wanted to ask that question, but I would agree with that because now he's. Yeah, he's got butt Fumble and beats up old people.
[00:08:28] Speaker B: Yeah. So.
[00:08:31] Speaker A: And they get stabbed.
[00:08:32] Speaker B: What an idiot.
[00:08:32] Speaker A: What an idiot.
Bonus news story here.
The Meow Mix podcast for the Carolina Panthers caught it after six seasons because the Panthers are just so damn bad.
[00:08:45] Speaker B: They ass just.
[00:08:48] Speaker A: Just weak move there.
Try being a Browns fan. Try having a Browns podcast.
[00:08:52] Speaker B: Podcast.
[00:08:53] Speaker A: Yeah.
Do you want to feel pain? Yeah.
[00:08:56] Speaker B: Rude. For the Browns.
[00:08:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Just. So I just had to throw that out there. You guys are weak.
[00:09:00] Speaker C: I mean, how long ago did Cam Newton take him to Super Bowl?
[00:09:04] Speaker A: Right? You've been to a Super Bowl?
[00:09:05] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:09:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Get real, Meow Mix.
[00:09:07] Speaker A: We haven't even been to a Super Bowl. And you guys have only been a team since what we. What year did the Panther start? It wasn't that long ago.
[00:09:15] Speaker B: We literally have to build a 3 billion dollar dome just to give fans sniff the Super Bowl. Just to have one.
[00:09:23] Speaker A: Just to have one.
[00:09:23] Speaker B: As close as we'll ever get to it.
[00:09:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:09:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:09:26] Speaker A: Just weak.
[00:09:27] Speaker B: Bad job out of you.
[00:09:28] Speaker A: Yeah, real bad job. 95. 90. They've only been a team since 95.
[00:09:32] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, it's. It's just weak sauce.
[00:09:36] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:09:36] Speaker A: Piss poor. That's just. That's just a bad look. Grow up, Peter Pan.
[00:09:39] Speaker B: Grow up, Peter Pan.
Bonus. Bonus.
[00:09:42] Speaker A: Bon.
[00:09:43] Speaker B: News story of the week.
[00:09:44] Speaker A: We tell so many news stories of the week, we're not even gonna do a show.
[00:09:46] Speaker D: Just.
[00:09:47] Speaker A: Just the news.
[00:09:47] Speaker B: Just the news. Welcome to the News on the Burning river sportscast.
[00:09:50] Speaker A: I'm kenny Thunder.
[00:09:52] Speaker B: At 9 o', clock, we'll have the weather.
At the risk of getting overly political.
[00:10:01] Speaker A: Tyler, you already attacked me on the Federalist paper, so we're there.
[00:10:04] Speaker B: Tylenol has been in the news lately and. Yeah, pregnancy and the whole thing and the FDA stuff.
So I asked my mom if she ever took Tylenol when she was pregnant with me. She said only if she had a really bad hangover.
[00:10:22] Speaker A: Was that an actual quote from your mom? Or are you just telling a joke here?
[00:10:27] Speaker B: Oh, Tina, that's what's wrong with me.
[00:10:33] Speaker A: Checks out. Checks out.
I guess with that, let's remind everybody to call the Bern River Sportscast hot take hot.
I don't recall. Leave your hot takes on the hot take hotline. We want hot takes, and we have some hot takes, I think, don't we?
[00:10:50] Speaker B: We have some hot takes. So let's. You want to hear them?
[00:10:53] Speaker A: I want to hear the hot takes.
[00:10:55] Speaker B: Can you guess who called us first?
[00:10:57] Speaker A: I bet our. Our. Our family from North Jersey called us.
[00:11:02] Speaker C: Angry Bobby and the boys.
[00:11:05] Speaker A: Dirty Mike and the boys.
[00:11:06] Speaker B: Dirty Mike and the boys.
[00:11:07] Speaker A: Angry Bobby and the boys.
[00:11:09] Speaker C: Thanks for the Prius.
[00:11:13] Speaker B: Hi, it's Kevin Brown's back in North Jersey. I'm here with the rest of the family, including my mother and my good friend Kyle.
[00:11:23] Speaker C: We should have won that game.
[00:11:25] Speaker B: Right tackle on the Vikings. False started it. Didn't even show the replay.
Personally, though, I think Dylan Gabriel looked decent for some reason. Our defense folded more than her offense this week.
So, boys, I guess my question and hot take is, is the defense a problem now?
Anyone else want to say anything?
Bobby D. Nothing.
[00:11:50] Speaker A: Nothing.
[00:11:51] Speaker B: Bobby D.
All right.
[00:11:54] Speaker A: Mistakes.
[00:11:54] Speaker D: Too many mistakes.
[00:11:55] Speaker B: Okay, okay.
[00:11:56] Speaker A: Kevin Stefanski.
[00:11:57] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:11:57] Speaker C: Kevin Sapanski.
[00:11:58] Speaker A: I'm frustrated. I'm frustrated.
[00:12:00] Speaker B: No, actually, is he frustrated?
[00:12:04] Speaker C: You know what?
[00:12:05] Speaker A: We have new offensive lineman Cam Robinson.
[00:12:08] Speaker B: Levinson, like, done with him, bro.
What game?
[00:12:14] Speaker C: That's it.
[00:12:16] Speaker A: Yeah, I know.
[00:12:16] Speaker C: Yeah, he got.
[00:12:17] Speaker A: He did.
[00:12:18] Speaker B: I dance.
[00:12:19] Speaker C: I dance.
[00:12:20] Speaker B: He's killing Gabriel. Killing Gabriel. Could be.
[00:12:23] Speaker C: Sucks. All right.
[00:12:24] Speaker B: It's coming from a Rams fan, but I. Always a pleasure. Can't wait to hear myself.
Mom, you want to say anything, at least I.
[00:12:32] Speaker C: Go brown.
[00:12:33] Speaker A: Go brown.
[00:12:34] Speaker B: My mother. All right, peace out, Jen. Enjoy the rest of the week.
Rare cameo by mom.
[00:12:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
First of all, I will say you guys are not good enough to that woman. She puts up with so much.
[00:12:48] Speaker B: She's a saint.
[00:12:49] Speaker A: Yeah, she is a saint.
We'll start with Kevin. Since he decided that he was actually gonna grace us with his presence this week.
[00:12:55] Speaker B: He didn't run out of the bar crying.
[00:12:57] Speaker A: Yeah, for the first time in three weeks, Kevin didn't run out of bar crying. Oh, I went home. I can't take it literally.
[00:13:09] Speaker B: Our hot takes are just making.
[00:13:10] Speaker C: I can't believe they keep calling the calls.
[00:13:12] Speaker A: No, we'll start with Kevin. I actually disagree with Kevin's take. I don't think the defense folded. Here's the deal. The. The defense had to stop on the sixth try after we had the lead.
Carson Wentz and that offense finally got in the end zone. And, yeah, it was a bad last drive, but again, it was on the sixth try. We had 15 possessions in between there for the offense to just score a few more points, to give them a little bit of a cushion, and they couldn't score anything.
I know we talked about this at length. Like, what was the stat for the drive the last couple drives before?
[00:13:44] Speaker B: They had four or five drives there in the second half, and they gained a total of 29 yards on offense.
[00:13:48] Speaker A: Yeah. And the last drive beforehand, when all we needed to do is get one first down and end the game, we had a total of.
[00:13:55] Speaker B: What was it, like, 11 yards?
[00:13:57] Speaker A: Well, it wasn't a let. Well, because we needed a first down to get to. To win the game, was what we needed. Or do we need two first downs?
[00:14:03] Speaker B: Well, you needed to chew the clock either way.
[00:14:05] Speaker A: We had. We had 11 yards, and we took off, like, 27 seconds or something like that. Like, that was what we did.
[00:14:11] Speaker C: Fastest three now in the history of the NFL.
[00:14:13] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:13] Speaker B: I mean, not even Kevin Stefanski thought the Vikings were going to drive 80 yards down the field and score a touchdown.
[00:14:18] Speaker A: Right.
[00:14:19] Speaker B: I mean, they just.
[00:14:20] Speaker A: They.
[00:14:21] Speaker B: That was uncharacteristic of the defense. And the defense held up all game long, really, other than that.
[00:14:26] Speaker A: And it's an NFL game. You held them to 21 points, and, like, you should be able to win that game, especially the amount of opportunities you gave our offense. You should have won that game.
[00:14:36] Speaker B: And then turnovers. I mean, we.
[00:14:39] Speaker A: We forced two turnovers.
The Browns didn't turn the ball over at all, and our defense forced two turnovers for us, and the offense couldn't capitalize.
[00:14:47] Speaker B: So I have a hard time blaming the defense on that one.
[00:14:49] Speaker A: Yeah. So I'm gonna. I'm gonna disagree with you, Kevin. I think it was 100% of Kevin Stefanski loss or Stefanik, like we like to call him. I don't know why I've been calling him.
[00:14:57] Speaker B: Between the conservative offense and the just shit poor clock management down the stretch.
[00:15:02] Speaker A: Like, that was the problem.
[00:15:04] Speaker B: That was the problem.
[00:15:04] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Not to mention, Kevin, the defense wasn't the ones that called a timeout to let them decide what play they wanted to run there at the end of the game.
[00:15:12] Speaker B: 50 seconds left on the clock and the clock running.
[00:15:14] Speaker A: Yeah. With. With.
With the Vikings having no timeouts left.
[00:15:18] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:15:19] Speaker A: So I'm gonna disagree 100% there, Bobby D. I don't even know what he said.
[00:15:23] Speaker B: He's frustrated.
[00:15:24] Speaker A: He's frustrated. So.
[00:15:25] Speaker B: Yeah, Bobby D was frustrated, which is fair.
[00:15:29] Speaker A: When isn't Bobby D frustrated?
[00:15:30] Speaker B: You know, I mean, look, it's the life of a Browns fan. True stuff.
[00:15:36] Speaker A: True.
Is that everything? From there. And again, your mother's a saint.
Go. Go buy her flowers or something. Nice.
[00:15:45] Speaker B: Yeah, do something nice for mom for one.
[00:15:47] Speaker D: Once.
[00:15:49] Speaker B: Are you ready for number two?
[00:15:50] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm in.
[00:15:56] Speaker B: Come on, dude.
[00:15:57] Speaker A: Wasting two timeouts at the end of that game. Oh, my God. You suck. You. You are done.
I'm done. With Kevin Spanski as our head coach, we need to do something. And we got a tour right now.
This is ridiculous. He cannot coach an NFL football team.
[00:16:19] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, this Cliff here at a mile high.
[00:16:22] Speaker A: 150 Browns fans at Stoney's today. Unbelievable. Doors open at 7am 150 Browns fans made their way.
[00:16:31] Speaker B: Unbelievable.
[00:16:33] Speaker A: But still.
[00:16:34] Speaker E: Come on.
[00:16:40] Speaker A: Now, that's a take I can get on board with.
[00:16:41] Speaker B: Good to hear. Cliff fired up.
[00:16:43] Speaker A: Yeah, Cliff is very even keeled. So to see him get wild like that was.
Is pretty awesome to hear him, I guess I should say.
[00:16:51] Speaker B: I can't disagree with a single thing you said, Cliff.
[00:16:53] Speaker A: No. Yeah. Good take. I like that.
[00:16:56] Speaker B: Kevin's gotta go.
[00:16:56] Speaker A: He's a disaster.
[00:16:57] Speaker B: It's been too long.
Time to bounce his ass.
[00:17:02] Speaker A: Kevin, take notes.
[00:17:04] Speaker D: That's.
[00:17:05] Speaker A: That's a good take.
[00:17:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Well done, Cliff.
[00:17:07] Speaker A: Well done, Cliff.
Do we have anything else?
[00:17:13] Speaker B: That's it for this.
[00:17:13] Speaker A: That's what we got this week. So call us. Remember, we want hot takes. We want hot takes. We want hot takes. We want hot takes. 3,30-2278-808130-81330, 2278-081330-22780, 81330, 22780.
We're not standing by, but we will do this.
[00:17:31] Speaker B: And if you call with takes we agree with, we won't make fun of you.
[00:17:35] Speaker A: Yeah, even if your take is like a. Like a solid take that doesn't necessarily.
[00:17:41] Speaker B: Agree with us, we'll probably still make fun of it.
[00:17:43] Speaker A: Okay? Yeah, you're right.
Speaking of hot takes, it's time for dig it with the macho fan.
[00:17:53] Speaker B: All right, no more fun and games. Time to write the ship. And it starts with you, Pittsburgh. That's right. Steelers week. You know what that means? That means we're gonna play nasty. Means we're gonna play with more attitude than we ever have all season.
Now, we are gonna take that Steel City and we're gonna melt it down. And then we're gonna take over. We're Gonna supplant why the Browns are here. Stay. And now we are going to go from worse to worst in home stories with you squealers. Can't wait for Sunday because we're gonna bring the band. Yeah. We're gonna bring the bang. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
[00:18:33] Speaker A: Let's go Braille.
[00:18:36] Speaker B: Let's go.
[00:18:44] Speaker A: Do super fans become extra super when we play division rivals?
[00:18:49] Speaker B: I think he got bit in the neck by a macho fan.
[00:18:56] Speaker C: You did or he did?
[00:18:57] Speaker B: Oh, he did. That's why he turned into the macho.
[00:19:00] Speaker A: Oh, okay.
[00:19:02] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't know. Superheroes.
[00:19:04] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know.
[00:19:06] Speaker C: I see what you're.
[00:19:07] Speaker B: I saw Toby Maguire as Spider man once.
[00:19:09] Speaker A: Yeah, he was.
[00:19:12] Speaker C: He's still my Spider Man.
[00:19:13] Speaker A: Speaking of which, wasn't Macho Macho man in or. No, was that. That was Randy Savage. He was Bone Saw.
[00:19:20] Speaker B: Yeah, he was bones. Yeah.
[00:19:22] Speaker A: Yeah. Anyways, I thought about that. Yeah.
A good tie in there. I like that.
[00:19:26] Speaker B: See, it was a better joke than you gave it credit for.
[00:19:28] Speaker A: Yeah. See, a macho fan's just a dirty dog.
[00:19:31] Speaker B: I mean, macho fan literally went to London.
[00:19:33] Speaker D: London.
[00:19:34] Speaker B: Oh, I went to London.
Bangers and mash.
[00:19:39] Speaker A: God saved the queen.
[00:19:40] Speaker B: God save the queen.
[00:19:43] Speaker A: Like I was saying, macho fan is just a dirty dog. And speaking of dogs, it's time for the Burning River Sportscast Dog of the week.
[00:19:55] Speaker D: You gotta play tough people in the National Football League.
[00:19:58] Speaker B: You gotta be ready and we gotta.
[00:20:00] Speaker D: Be the dogs that we are every time we step on there on Sunday.
[00:20:03] Speaker B: And be ready to attack and don't stop until we're in that locker room.
Can we just make noise?
Is that soothing to people after a Browns loss?
Is that what you want to hear? Browns Nation?
Did you enjoy that?
[00:20:25] Speaker A: I'm just trying to do dog of the week.
All right. So for dog of the Week, we leave it up to our listeners and followers to determine the Burning River Sportscast Dog of the week. Each week on our live shows on Sunday night, we each nominated dog of the week candidate. Well, Bone doesn't. He just sends it in because he decided he doesn' want to do live shows anymore.
From there, we turn it over to all of our. All of you on our socials and you guys vote and make the final decision for us. So this week's nominees, Kenny.
[00:20:55] Speaker B: David, the Chief and Joku Bone.
[00:21:00] Speaker C: Malik Collins.
[00:21:01] Speaker A: And I had Quin Sean Judkins. And after the fan vote that was conducted today on our socials, the bur.
The Berber Sportscast Dog of the Week.
[00:21:10] Speaker B: Is.
[00:21:13] Speaker A: Quin Judkins.
I mean, I've seen how long he could do the drum roll.
[00:21:19] Speaker B: I. We do need to pause longer for the drum roll because sometimes we do it too quick and it messes up the sounder. But I'm surprised Malik Collins didn't get more love here.
[00:21:28] Speaker A: He only got like three votes between all of our socials.
[00:21:31] Speaker B: Yeah, it feels bad because he had a bang up game.
[00:21:33] Speaker A: Quin John Judkins got like 95% of the votes.
[00:21:35] Speaker B: I mean, everything to be fair. I mean, like, I. I was going to nominate Quinn Sean, but Quinn Sean keeps winning every week because he's the only thing on this offense that's remotely watchable.
[00:21:43] Speaker A: I think this is his second one in a row.
No, I think it's the second one in a row and I think it might be three out of four.
[00:21:51] Speaker B: Yeah, right.
[00:21:52] Speaker A: What are they? I mean, to be fair, Miles Garrett won the other one.
Grant Delpa one. So. No, he's won two in a row. Just two in a row. He was nominated the first week.
[00:22:02] Speaker B: He's the only remotely watchable thing on this offense right now.
[00:22:05] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. 23 carries, 110 yards, one catch for 18 yards.
[00:22:09] Speaker B: And he's getting better every week.
[00:22:11] Speaker A: And I just throw this out there. He also had 70 yards and a touchdown called back due to penalties. So I should have had 180. 180 yards and a touchdown on. I mean, if he didn't have those.
[00:22:23] Speaker B: Runs called back, there's no telling what he would have finished with because, I mean, who knows?
[00:22:27] Speaker A: We would have just kept. We just kept pounding the rock the whole game. Yeah, well, we have Kevin Stefanik. We wouldn't have done that.
[00:22:32] Speaker B: Yeah, he probably would have gave up on.
[00:22:32] Speaker C: You guys. Feel like he was faster this week. He just looked faster. Like his decision making was quicker. Like his understanding of the playbook was just like his vision three weeks in.
[00:22:40] Speaker B: Instead of, you know, way better.
[00:22:41] Speaker A: What I will say this. We've always said side to side, the dude's like lightning quick.
[00:22:45] Speaker D: Well.
[00:22:46] Speaker B: And what I love is his explosiveness from his first couple steps. I mean, he is so fast through the line and through that first level of defenders.
[00:22:53] Speaker A: I still say he loses it a little bit on the top end, but basically, yeah. Once you get all the way through to the second level, he's extremely explosive.
[00:23:02] Speaker B: Yeah. So fun to. Fun to watch. Excited to see what the rest of the year has in store for him.
[00:23:07] Speaker A: And he does remind me a lot of Nick Chubb where he. He's patient. It.
[00:23:10] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:23:10] Speaker A: But then he makes a decision. Foot in the ground and he goes straight down.
[00:23:13] Speaker B: Once he makes a decision, he's out of there.
I mean, the only thing that just is not Nick Chubb, like, is just Nick Chubb's ability to break away once he was in the open.
[00:23:22] Speaker A: Right, Right.
[00:23:23] Speaker B: I mean, it was like. It just gives me goosebumps to think about because it was so fun to watch.
[00:23:29] Speaker A: Oh, and you would think because he was a thicker back, so you would think like he'd get hawked or something. No.
[00:23:33] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't think any of us put distance between. I don't think any of us anticipated how fast he was, especially with the knee stuff he had in college too. So, like, like, I mean, what an amazing player he was. And I mean, yeah, is.
[00:23:46] Speaker A: But this moment's about Quinn. Sean Judkins. True. So we'll give him his flowers. Way to go. Burning your sportscast dog of the week.
[00:23:52] Speaker B: Quin John's the future.
[00:23:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Kenny, let's give something away.
[00:23:55] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:23:56] Speaker A: Grab it.
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[00:24:58] Speaker B: I'm just admiring this frame, actually. This is actually really, really, really high end.
[00:25:03] Speaker A: Yeah, it's dope.
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Enter now and good luck. And with that, let's get into other Browns news.
All right, so in other Browns news this week, Joe Flacco was traded to the Bengals.
[00:25:28] Speaker B: He was?
[00:25:29] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:29] Speaker B: I missed this.
[00:25:30] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:30] Speaker B: Happened.
[00:25:31] Speaker A: Well, funny you should ask. The Browns swapped a six. A six rounder in Flacco for a fifth rounder with the Bengals. But here's where it gets weird.
Which in case anybody just is didn't know the obvious, you're. You're trading a captain to a division rival in Week 6 of the season.
[00:25:49] Speaker B: Not just a division rival, an in state division rival.
[00:25:52] Speaker A: Like, what are we doing here?
[00:25:55] Speaker C: Seems. Seems a bit odd.
[00:25:56] Speaker B: And, and it's not like you got a haul in the trade, right? No. You swapped late round picks up 25 or 30 picks. Great.
[00:26:04] Speaker A: And let's be honest, everything after like the third round is like, they might be good. We don't know.
[00:26:10] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I mean, it's not like it's cataclysmic. Flacco wasn't playing anymore, but it's just.
[00:26:18] Speaker A: I just find it extremely. It's very crazy, especially with. With the state of the AFC north right now with. With Lamar Jackson being hurt and Baltimore struggling and the Steelers, even though they're on top of the division statistically, they're not a good team.
So the division's wide open right now and the Bengals are in second place. And so what do we do? They're needy at quarterback, so we give them a quarterback that could potentially make their team better.
[00:26:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:26:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:26:45] Speaker B: I mean, we're In a position where 500, a little over 500 might win this division.
[00:26:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:26:51] Speaker B: Like, I mean, and this is where schedule softens up here. So like.
[00:26:54] Speaker A: Right. This is one of four.
[00:26:55] Speaker B: Is not a good. Is not good. But like, if things did go right, you could at least be competitive again.
[00:27:00] Speaker A: Yeah. This is where you're supposed to like, step down harder on their throats and not let them have our quarterback.
[00:27:05] Speaker B: You know what I worry most about, to be quite honest, with this whole Flacco trade is he balls out and just.
Well, that will make the Browns look really bad. If we have like a Baker Mayfield 2.0 scenario where like he leads them to the playoffs and they make a run, that would be terrible. But what's worse for this organization is you had a guy in Joe that I think was well liked in the locker room that was a longtime veteran in the NFL that with two rookie quarterbacks on your roster, would have probably been a good mentor type guy to have in your locker room. And now the option is not Joe Flacco bringing the young guys along.
It's desean Watson. He's the veteran on the roster.
[00:27:54] Speaker A: Well, they got Bailey Zappy.
[00:27:57] Speaker B: For all intents and purposes, Deshaun Watson is the guy. Now that is going to be if anyone's taking anyone under their wing. This is the new role model for your young quarterbacks that are supposed to be the future of your franchise.
[00:28:08] Speaker C: Changing the signs because we're back to.
[00:28:10] Speaker B: Zero days without mentioning Sean Watson. Oops.
[00:28:16] Speaker A: Put that up there.
[00:28:18] Speaker B: But that's troubling to me because that's not a locker room guy. That's not a mentor, we want to be like you type of guy.
[00:28:25] Speaker A: No.
[00:28:26] Speaker B: If anything, that guy is a pariah in Cleveland and we all can't wait for him to be out of here. So I don't need him mentoring and shaping the young minds of tomorrow.
[00:28:35] Speaker D: You sure?
[00:28:36] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm sure. I mean, he can tell him where to get a good massage, I'm sure. But I don't need him helping them quarterback because even when he did play, he was God awful here.
[00:28:47] Speaker A: Ass.
Ass.
[00:28:50] Speaker B: Super ass.
[00:28:51] Speaker A: Yeah. And I mean, I was going to say this a little bit later, but it goes with what we're talking about right now and the fact that they traded Joe Flacco. Did. Did Stef distance himself from Andrew Barry this week?
[00:29:03] Speaker B: It was an interesting presser this week, certainly.
I think in a rare, candid moment, when they initially asked the question of Stefanski about it, he. He said, and I quote, I'd tell you that the Joe trade took us by surprise. That's not something that we saw coming.
[00:29:23] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:24] Speaker B: And then he kind of very quickly realized that that probably wasn't the company line and I shouldn't.
[00:29:30] Speaker A: I should not.
[00:29:30] Speaker B: And said, you know, O.B.
[00:29:32] Speaker A: Obviously, A.B.
[00:29:33] Speaker B: Makes those decisions, and I trust A.B. and we talk about every decision that we make.
You know, they wanted Joe, they made a phone call, whatever. But rare for Kevin to fall off the. The company line mantra of things to have that rare moment of that rare Freudian slip of maybe we weren't on the same page. Maybe there was some disconnect here.
[00:29:54] Speaker A: And, I mean, that's what I read into it, is he walked into the office and they were like, by the way, we're trading Joe. And he was like, oh, oh, well.
[00:30:01] Speaker B: Which. Which again, from like a game plan standpoint, I guess doesn't matter all that much. But as a locker room guy and a guy that I think was very well liked by everyone in the front office and in the locker room, like, it doesn't make. I mean, the team voted him captain.
You only get to pick a handful of those guys.
[00:30:18] Speaker A: Right.
[00:30:18] Speaker B: So very, very strange. And then you throw in the whole in state rival thing. Yeah. It's just a bizarre move overall.
[00:30:26] Speaker A: Yeah. Boom. Thoughts on this?
[00:30:28] Speaker C: It was as far as I know that was the first time we've ever traded with the Cincinnati Bengals. Right.
[00:30:33] Speaker A: Ever.
[00:30:33] Speaker C: I'm pretty sure.
[00:30:34] Speaker B: Ever.
[00:30:35] Speaker A: You're the fact checker so I, I mean that's accurate. I, I don't, I can't remember another.
[00:30:40] Speaker C: One somebody brought up.
[00:30:41] Speaker B: Why would you.
[00:30:42] Speaker C: A fax didn't go through and like I forget what.
[00:30:44] Speaker B: Yeah, it was like 2000 AJ McCarron.
[00:30:45] Speaker C: Or something like that.
[00:30:46] Speaker B: And we didn't trade the AJ McCarran deal. That fell through. Yeah.
[00:30:50] Speaker C: So I, I, I, I had heard this is the first trade we've ever done with.
[00:30:54] Speaker B: This is true. That would make sense because that's kind of bizarre.
[00:30:56] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:30:56] Speaker B: Just that was Manziel and they wanted McCarran and that fell through.
[00:31:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
Just, just wild. But yeah. And so I guess this leaves us with Dylan Gabriel will be the starter going forward. However, Ian Rapaport did report this past weekend that it's not an if but a win. As far as Shador Sanders playing this season, he said that he had the whole story about they want to give him a full week as the, as the guy in the offense and make a game plan that's specifically for him.
And they, they understand the need to see both quarterbacks play this this season.
[00:31:33] Speaker B: So it's certainly closer now than ever because now you're a sprained ankle away so.
[00:31:38] Speaker A: Well, we don't know that yet because that's true.
[00:31:39] Speaker B: They in the press named a QB2.
[00:31:41] Speaker A: Yeah. In the presser Stefanik also said we're not sure if it's going to be Shador or if we're going to bring up Bailey Zappy to be the backup quarterback.
[00:31:49] Speaker B: Well, he didn't even rule out bringing someone in out external altogether.
[00:31:53] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:31:53] Speaker B: So.
[00:31:54] Speaker A: So we'll see. And then he got Watson looming like we talk.
[00:31:58] Speaker B: I, they cannot put him back on the field this year.
[00:32:01] Speaker A: I don't know.
[00:32:01] Speaker B: They can't do it. I don't know. Can't do. You can't apologize in the off season for bringing him here and being a disaster and then try to sell that back to your fan base. The people that are paying to sit in your stadium, your crumbling, decrepit stadium.
[00:32:12] Speaker C: You admitted your mistake.
[00:32:14] Speaker B: Yeah. And now you're putting him back out.
[00:32:16] Speaker A: Here's the deal guys. When, when people get desperate, they do some wild things. And as this season progresses and we rack up the losses. I can see Stefanik doing something crazy. Crazy.
[00:32:26] Speaker B: I would love to see some desperation from Kevin Stefanski. Act like your job is on the line.
[00:32:31] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:32:31] Speaker B: Do something.
[00:32:32] Speaker A: But don't. Don't ask for it.
[00:32:33] Speaker B: Don't.
[00:32:33] Speaker A: You're gonna get to Sean Watts.
[00:32:34] Speaker B: Don't keep doing the same thing that you keep doing, which sucks and leads to losses week after week after week. Act like your job is on the line. Be desperate. Do it. I dare you, Kevin. Punch a nun.
[00:32:46] Speaker C: He may even call. Play over 10 yards a pass. Play over 10 yards.
[00:32:51] Speaker B: Throw the ball down the field.
[00:32:52] Speaker A: Jesus. Yeah, but, yeah, from there, the city of Cleveland appeals ODOT's decision on the height of the stadium. So we've renewed this whole fight.
[00:33:02] Speaker B: So, I mean, this is almost comical at this point. This just political.
[00:33:06] Speaker A: And that's kind of where I was going. I'm like, at what point does Cleveland say, like, we're not going to win this? Just. Just give up. Like, now you're just wasting resources because there's people that have to hear the appeal and do all this shit. Like, you're looking bad now because you want to talk about them and taxpayer money and all. Who's wasting taxpayer money now?
[00:33:22] Speaker B: Yeah. And here's the thing is, like every city, when you think about city planners, politicians, like, you want investment in your area? It's going to do. It's going to bring in more people, it's going to bring in more tax revenue, it's going to gentrify the area. Like, there's going to be a bunch of new businesses and all kinds of things. Like, there's a lot of good that's coming from this. And I know that it's not downtown, it's not on the lakeshore, and I'm sure that hurts for. For the people running the city office in Cleveland. Cleveland. But they could be moving to Wyoming.
They're moving down the road.
[00:33:54] Speaker A: Right?
[00:33:54] Speaker B: Right. Like this. They're still.
[00:33:55] Speaker A: Literally, see downtown from the stadium.
[00:33:57] Speaker B: They're still going to benefit from people coming into Cleveland to watch concerts and football games and things all year long that are going to stay in hotels downtown and frequent restaurants downtown and bars. Like, on no level is this a bad thing for Northeast Ohio. Right. It's a huge capital investment that is going to pay dividends for the next three decades.
[00:34:19] Speaker A: And I've been saying it the whole time, and I still maintain this, that they actually will finally develop the lakefront sometime in the next 10 to 15 years. And when it's all said and done, they'll Be like, damn, I'm glad that the Browns moved so that we had this whole. We could demo the stadium and have this whole space to renovate the lakefront.
[00:34:36] Speaker B: Put a nice man made beach up there. Yeah, it'll be a resort style casino, hotel, something.
[00:34:40] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. It's going to be awesome. And guess what, Guess what's going to partially pay for it. Probably, you know, something of the stuff that they get from the stadium.
[00:34:47] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:34:48] Speaker A: But I don't know. I digress.
Browns offense, let's see here. Brown's offense is really bad. But let me, let me, let me read these to you and you tell me.
[00:34:58] Speaker B: Oh, we're playing a game here.
[00:34:59] Speaker A: Yeah, we're going to play a game. I'm going to read you the stats for two different offenses.
[00:35:04] Speaker B: I won't look at the notes.
[00:35:05] Speaker A: Yeah, don't look at the notes. They're in there. But.
And you tell me if you can spot a noticeable difference between them.
[00:35:14] Speaker B: Okay, so should we talk about the two, the, the. The teams that you're comparing here?
[00:35:18] Speaker A: No, I just want you to. I just want to see if you. If there's a big difference to you.
[00:35:22] Speaker B: Fair enough.
[00:35:24] Speaker A: Okay, so I'll, I'll actually even tell you the first one. The first One is the 2025 Browns, right? The current team.
[00:35:29] Speaker B: Right.
[00:35:30] Speaker A: 14.6 points per game.
That's number 31 in the NFL. 288.4 yards per game. That's number 27. 0.22 points per play, which I don't even know is a stat, but apparently it is. That's number 32. That's dead last. 34.21% on third downs. That's 28, 1.6 touchdowns per game. Number 34.3 yards per play. Number 30.
[00:35:56] Speaker B: This is this year's Browns team.
[00:35:57] Speaker A: That's this year's Browns team. Okay, now I'm gonna read you another team here and you tell me, just take a wild guess at who it might be. Okay. Okay.
So first of all, 14.6 points per game. Same. This one was ranked 32 instead of 31.308.9 yards per game. So if you're keeping track, that's 20 more yards per game. That's number 24.2. Three two points per play. That's number 32.
But still better than current.
33.8% on third downs. That's number 28 in the league. Still better than the current.
[00:36:31] Speaker C: Or.
[00:36:31] Speaker A: Or just under the current team. 1.7 touchdowns per game. That's better than the current team. But rank 30 that year and 4.9 yards per play, which is better than the current team ranked number 24 that year. Do you know.
[00:36:45] Speaker B: Do you know what am I guessing here?
[00:36:47] Speaker A: Who is this team?
It's a. I'll give you a hint. It's a Browns team.
[00:36:53] Speaker B: The.
[00:36:53] Speaker A: And not a good one.
[00:36:54] Speaker B: The Johnny Manzel Browns. The Brian Hoyer Manzel Browns.
[00:36:58] Speaker A: No Bone. You got a guess?
[00:37:04] Speaker C: Brandon Weeden Brown.
[00:37:06] Speaker A: No, they were actually pretty good on this.
Gordon.
[00:37:10] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:37:11] Speaker A: No, this is the 2017 Browns.
[00:37:13] Speaker B: This would be the oh and 16.
[00:37:14] Speaker A: This is the Owen 16 Browns under Hugh Jackson and nice. Most stat categories ranked better than the current offense through five weeks.
[00:37:26] Speaker C: We have an offensive guru as our coach.
[00:37:27] Speaker B: Hugh Jackson was an offensive guru.
[00:37:30] Speaker C: You know he was. And he started in hard knocks.
[00:37:34] Speaker A: You guys got a lot of good points.
[00:37:35] Speaker B: And he dove into the lake.
[00:37:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:37:37] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:37:38] Speaker C: Kept his promise.
[00:37:39] Speaker A: He did. He did.
[00:37:39] Speaker B: So promise is kept. So look, welcome to the hard land.
[00:37:42] Speaker A: I just bring this up because again, for all these crazy, idiotic Stefanic defenders out there, at what point are you going to accept that this offense, this terrible offense is the problem? And I know all week long I've been getting people telling me, well, it's because his players are bad.
It doesn't matter what combination of players he's had, they've always been bad. The only time that Kevin Stefanik had a good offense was the six games that Joe Flacco played absolutely out of his mind a couple of years ago. Even people will point to the first year in 2020 when Baker took him to the playoffs.
That team, we've talked about this a lot. That team should have been way better on offense than it was given the talent that they had.
[00:38:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:38:28] Speaker A: That team made it to the playoffs and won a playoff game in spite of Kevin Stefanik. He held them back. And that's evidenced by the fact that he didn't coach the first playoff game and they completely let loose and destroyed the Steeler and then he probably came back from COVID and they lost.
[00:38:45] Speaker B: That was the Mike. Mike prefer game.
[00:38:46] Speaker A: Yeah. So I just let that sink in. We went oh and 16 that year in this. In that offense statistically is better than the offense they have this year.
[00:38:57] Speaker B: What are you, Elon Musk?
[00:38:58] Speaker A: I don't know why.
[00:38:59] Speaker B: Let that sink in.
[00:39:00] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Yeah.
[00:39:02] Speaker B: When he carried the sink into Twitter headquarters.
Let that sink in.
[00:39:07] Speaker C: Let that sink in. Speaking of tweets, some type of analytics guy or something now.
[00:39:12] Speaker A: Brs. Brs. ESPN.
[00:39:14] Speaker B: ABC.
[00:39:16] Speaker A: Pff.
Yeah. Speaking of tweets, the Browns tweet on 7622 was, we have agreed to trade QB Baker Mayfield to the Carolina Panthers for a conditional 2024 draft pick.
Since that tweet, they are 15 and 25.
Nick Chubb is no longer here. They're the butt of every sexual assault joke known to man. Baker's an MVP can't candidate, and our, our team is just an absolute mess.
So, yeah, I just, just had to bring that up because everything leads back to Baker.
[00:39:53] Speaker B: Yeah. Since 2024, Baker has scored 17 more touchdowns by himself than the entire Browns organization.
[00:39:59] Speaker A: And that tweet was that whole summary I just gave. I have to give credit. That was Nick Karns on on Twitter or on. On X that put that out there. And I was just, just like, damn, it feels bad.
[00:40:11] Speaker B: I've seen a lot of bad takes recently. There was a local publication that posted like, the people are rewriting the history of Baker Mayfield and that he wanted out and the situation was toxic and that, you know, he had to leave to mature. And that feeling a certain way about that is akin to still being upset that you didn't marry your promise date. And I'm kind of like, I get, I get the reference, but this isn't just like pining after a long lost, you know, sweet 16 love. Like, this is like if you took a girl to prom and then she ended up writing a self help book for moms and becoming a beloved public figure and like running for president and winning and everyone loved her and was a great mom and a great wife life. And you married a coked out street walker that beats you, beats her kids, took half your things and left and like, is a pariah of all society. Like, that's, it's, it's, it's.
[00:41:17] Speaker A: I never thought Deshaun Watson would be compared to that. But, you know, here we are.
[00:41:21] Speaker B: That's the situation. I mean, everything they've done since Deshaun Watson got here, and what do we say? Absolute mess.
[00:41:27] Speaker A: What do we say every time we bring up Baker Mayfield? Everybody, all the, the Baker haters, they get pissed about it, but it's like, this discussion will never go away until the Browns are relevant.
[00:41:37] Speaker B: No, no. And every year now that Baker Mayfield is in the conversation of being an MVP league now and put, you know, maybe they could be a playoff or a Super bowl type team. It just makes the Browns look all that much worse.
[00:41:52] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:41:53] Speaker B: And I keep going back to like, oh, Baker had to mature, he had to leave. Like, there's no reason why he couldn't have Matured here with the right coaching staff, right? And I always go back to, like, he threw 41 touchdowns last year.
There is a. A handful of guys in the NFL that have ever thrown for 40 or more touchdowns in a season. The names are guys like Dan Marino, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers.
[00:42:19] Speaker A: You know, who didn't throw 40 touchdowns last year like the Browns combined.
[00:42:23] Speaker B: Those guys are hall of Famers.
If you can't work with a guy that has that kind of talent, if you can't figure out how to make him work, what hope is there that you can develop a Dylan Gabriel or a Shador Sanders or a Lenora Sellers or an Arch Manning next year? There's zero.
What, are you gonna get pissed off because he's too immature, he has a bad attitude, he doesn't carry himself the way you want him to. Oh, this guy's just too hard to work with.
[00:42:49] Speaker A: Grow up, Peter Pan Bony. You've had a thought that you've been waiting on for a minute.
[00:42:53] Speaker C: Well, he touched on it a while ago, but the whole idea that it was bake. It was mutual. There was a problem there. You never heard that shit the first two years that he was off the team. It never came up until Brown's media started putting that crap out there and trying to smear Baker as this, like, enemy. Like, oh, Miles Garrett didn't even like him. And people like, why didn't I ever hear that before? I was in that news three years ago.
[00:43:16] Speaker B: It's hard to believe that when you look back at the highlights of Baker, you know, high five. You know, chasing down Nick Chubb after a run and doing bad bumps in the end zone and dong flopping on the side, sideline. Like, those guys all loved that. That was fun. They loved that side. The moxie of Baker and. And I think, you know, there's a lot of talk about the last season that Baker was here, which was, oh, he was. Statistically, he wasn't good. He was injured, he was hurt, and of course he wanted to play.
[00:43:43] Speaker A: You know who.
[00:43:43] Speaker B: Any player in their right mind that's a competitor wants to be out there on the field and wants to help their team. It was up to the coaching staff to be the adult in the room and say, we don't believe that you're in a position right now that you can help the team.
[00:43:55] Speaker A: We want.
[00:43:56] Speaker B: We're going to sit you. And because we're going to sit you, we would advise you just have the surgery now to get better so we can come into next year with you. At full strength. That was their decision to make, not Baker Mayfield's. If anybody needs to grow up and mature, it's the goddamn Cleveland Browns.
[00:44:10] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. And just to add on to it, we're talking about coaching and poor coaching and how bad Kevin Stefanik is.
He couldn't get it done with Baker Mayfield. And then we bring into Sean Watson.
Desean Watson, by all intensive purposes at the time, was a top five quarterback in the NFL and we wrecked him. We just wrecked him. And I'm not saying that he might have done. I'm not even saying that he would have done well under somebody else. I'm just saying at the time, he was a top five quarterback in the NFL. And now he's not even bottom five. He's like, like, if you look at his stats, he's like number like 38, which is beyond the starters.
[00:44:50] Speaker B: Maybe we're being too hard on desean. Maybe it's really not. Not his fault. It's just Cleveland is this. Well, you know, one will know of incompetence.
[00:44:59] Speaker C: Kevin Stefani, you are going to play my offense right the way I want you to play it.
[00:45:03] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:45:03] Speaker A: And you know when we'll know is when Deshaun Watson goes to another team. If he instantly plays even, even decent.
[00:45:10] Speaker B: Would that be the worst thing ever?
[00:45:11] Speaker A: If he even plays decent?
[00:45:13] Speaker B: Sean goes to New Orleans next year and has them in the playoffs.
[00:45:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
Yeah. So buckle up.
[00:45:19] Speaker B: This thing.
[00:45:20] Speaker A: Yeah. For all you guys saying that we. We got to stop talking about. It's not done. And it won't be done for quite some time because the Browns are going to be really bad for at least the next three years.
[00:45:28] Speaker B: This depressed me worse than one in four.
[00:45:30] Speaker A: Yeah. Sorry, Bruce. Bruce Arians also this week said he's unsure how Stefanik still has a job. So that was fun. And then Garrett Bush said the Browns are running the most rudimentary, rudimentary offense he's ever seen.
[00:45:43] Speaker B: Not wrong.
[00:45:44] Speaker A: Here's a couple of quotes from. From his take. You think top flight receivers want to play in this high school playbook?
And he also said the Cleveland Browns offense is not imaginary.
They run stick routes, random out patterns and random flat routes. They, they got guys turning around, sitting down for four or five yard passes.
[00:46:01] Speaker B: I didn't even know they were running stick routes and out patterns. I thought they were all flat routes.
[00:46:05] Speaker A: Yeah, but I mean, this is, this is what you have the national media saying about you. And I'm glad that they finally come around. We've been saying this for three fucking years.
God damn it.
[00:46:16] Speaker B: It's terrible.
[00:46:17] Speaker A: Yeah. But enough about the Browns this week. Let's go ahead and get into the division round up.
All right, so Cincinnati lost to the Broncos on Monday night last week. So we'll add that in here. We were all right on that game. And then Cincinnati. Cincinnati promptly lost again to the Lions this weekend.
[00:46:45] Speaker B: You know, the bad thing is.
[00:46:46] Speaker A: And we were all right again.
[00:46:47] Speaker B: Cincinnati loser.
[00:46:48] Speaker A: Losing what?
[00:46:49] Speaker B: Well, I guess Joe Flacco being traded to Cincinnati is. We're not going to see Stephanie Niles anymore.
[00:46:54] Speaker A: Feels bad.
[00:46:55] Speaker B: Feels bad.
[00:46:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:46:56] Speaker B: Did you see her custom leather outfit that had Jake Browning's girlfriend written down her leg?
[00:47:00] Speaker A: I didn't.
[00:47:01] Speaker B: Pretty special.
[00:47:03] Speaker A: She was tagged. In case anyone was.
In case anyone's wondering. I give. According to Kenny. You need to go look that up.
But we were. We were all right on the Cincinnati games, and then Baltimore got Destroyed by Houston 44 to 10. We were all wrong here. And I will say, all of us at the time didn't know we were. We recorded pretty early in the week, and we didn't know Lamar Jackson was going to be out for the week, so.
[00:47:27] Speaker B: Well, but we did talk about it, and we talked about the fact that Cooper Rush had been a viable backup.
[00:47:32] Speaker A: That's true.
[00:47:33] Speaker B: If he had to play that, they would probably still win.
[00:47:36] Speaker A: That's. That's true. And they didn't.
[00:47:37] Speaker B: This Ravens team is just way worse than we thought.
[00:47:40] Speaker A: Their defense is so bad.
[00:47:41] Speaker D: Terrible.
[00:47:42] Speaker A: Same thing with the Steelers. Their defense is so bad. But Pittsburgh was on by.
[00:47:45] Speaker B: They do have a lot of guys out right now. Baltimore does. So if they can get healthy, maybe things will change. But they're really bad right now.
[00:47:51] Speaker A: Yeah, we were all wrong with the. With the Baltimore game. Pittsburgh was on buy, and then Cleveland lost to the Vikings in London. Obviously, Bone, you and I were right. Good job, buddy. Kenny, you and John were wrong.
[00:48:02] Speaker B: Thank you.
[00:48:02] Speaker A: Feels bad. So for the AFC north standings are as follows. Pittsburgh at 3 and 1, Cincinnati at 2 and 3, Baltimore at 1 and 4, and Cleveland at 1 and 4. We at least still have the same record as Baltimore.
[00:48:14] Speaker B: I mean, as bad as things are, you're still technically not out of this division race.
[00:48:18] Speaker C: I mean, it's sweet, sweet Pittsburgh.
[00:48:21] Speaker B: I mean, two. Two games. I mean, you're right back in this thing.
[00:48:24] Speaker A: Yeah. You win this week, you're only one game back.
[00:48:26] Speaker B: Right.
[00:48:27] Speaker A: But, yeah. Current king of the north standings.
[00:48:29] Speaker B: Who am I kidding? Am I talking about the Browns winning ever anything?
[00:48:33] Speaker A: We'll get there.
[00:48:34] Speaker B: Jeez.
[00:48:35] Speaker A: Current king in the north standings. Bo, you're on top at 11 and 6. I'm right behind you at 10 and 7. John is at 8 and 9, almost to 500. And Kenny, you're at 6 and 11.
[00:48:44] Speaker B: I want to recount. I think you're doing the math wrong.
[00:48:46] Speaker A: I'm not.
Now let's take a quick trip around the NFL.
All right, so this week in the NFL, the Jaguars beat the Chiefs and Trevor Lawrence fell down twice and then got up and scored to win the game.
[00:49:07] Speaker B: Is the Chiefs reign over?
[00:49:09] Speaker A: I think, I don't know. They started slow the last couple years and then they find, they find a way to make the playoffs and then make a run. But on that play with Trevor Lawrence, Chris Jones just stood there and watched him walk in and afterwards had to deactivate his social media due to backlash.
[00:49:25] Speaker B: Feels bad.
[00:49:26] Speaker C: It almost, it almost looked like to me he thought the play was over, so he just stopped. Like Trevor Lawrence was ground.
[00:49:32] Speaker B: Generally when someone falls down, the play is over.
[00:49:34] Speaker C: I, I, I feel like he just thought like, this is going to be reviewed, like this play is going to be replayed.
[00:49:39] Speaker A: He'll never not play to the whistle again.
[00:49:41] Speaker C: Yeah, then they lost. Yeah, it looked really, really bad.
[00:49:44] Speaker A: Yeah. The. What about the Jaguars? Man, there goes our pick.
[00:49:47] Speaker B: There goes the pick.
[00:49:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:49:48] Speaker B: Wave goodbye to that. Yeah, it's going to be number 25.
[00:49:50] Speaker A: Wave goodbye to juice box.
[00:49:51] Speaker B: Wave goodbye to juice box.
[00:49:53] Speaker A: Next up here, Mac Jones saw a dead body.
[00:49:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Apparently out the balcony of his hotel room saw a dead body in the river near their team hotel before the game. So that's interesting.
Apparently people saw it and called it in after he had seen it himself. And the team had reported that they seen a coroner's van and investigators out there and according to the local authorities, it's under investigation.
[00:50:20] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:50:21] Speaker C: I've never seen a dead body like randomly before.
[00:50:24] Speaker B: Y' all want to see a dead body?
[00:50:25] Speaker C: I've seen one like in the hospital, but not, yeah, not randomly.
[00:50:30] Speaker B: I seen one in the hospital.
[00:50:32] Speaker A: Sound like a great place to live, you know, California.
Next up, Bucks versus Seahawks. They each wore their throwbacks this weekend. Why can't those just be the jerseys for those teams?
[00:50:45] Speaker B: They just need to go back. I mean those so much better than their current jersey. Just so classic. The look of the, the creamsicle jerseys, especially in Tampa Bay and, and the old school Seahawks colors are just, just like way better than the, the deep blue and lime green and stuff that they got now. They just look so clean and so crisp.
[00:51:02] Speaker A: Yeah, they were dope. And speaking of the The Bucks. Baker Mayfield led another game winning drive at the end of this one.
[00:51:07] Speaker B: Only four incompletions in that game, just.
[00:51:09] Speaker A: Further cementing MVP status.
[00:51:12] Speaker B: 380 yards.
[00:51:13] Speaker A: I don't know.
[00:51:14] Speaker C: He just keeps doing it.
[00:51:15] Speaker A: Yeah, it's weird. Mike Evans isn't even playing.
[00:51:17] Speaker B: So that game was a shootout actually. 3835. Sam Darnold also played really well in that game. So a couple of quarterbacks thrown on the scrap heap. Teammates in Carolina, everybody's like, oh, these guys were in the. In the quarterback desert and couldn't find a home. Newsflash, Carolina's a shit organization too. That's why neither one of those guys could find a home there. Because they're also awful.
[00:51:38] Speaker A: They make podcasts quit.
[00:51:39] Speaker B: Yeah, they're so bad their podcast retired.
[00:51:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
Yeah, it's.
Becky Mayfield's pretty good.
You know who's not good? Kyler Murray. He had the ball snapped off his face and got a concussion and the Cardinals lost the the game.
[00:51:54] Speaker B: If he was a normal sized human, it probably would hit him in the hands.
[00:51:57] Speaker A: Yeah, feels bad.
You know who is tall, though? Daniel Jones.
[00:52:01] Speaker B: He's walking tall right now. Like the Rock.
[00:52:03] Speaker A: Yeah. Daniel Jones and The Colts are 4 and 1. Put up 40 on the Raiders this week. Yeah, did you guys see that coming?
[00:52:08] Speaker B: Another quarterback left four dead that found a home with an organization that actually wanted to build around the guy and has. Has a decent organization, a decent team around him.
[00:52:17] Speaker A: I bet if he would have came to the Browns, he'd be just as bad as all the other quarterbacks.
[00:52:21] Speaker B: Worse than desean.
[00:52:22] Speaker A: Yeah. And then finally, finally Cam Newton at his ninth baby. A regular Philip Rivers or Tyree Kill out there.
[00:52:29] Speaker B: Nine's a lot, man.
[00:52:30] Speaker C: It's a lot of kids.
[00:52:31] Speaker B: That's.
[00:52:32] Speaker A: That's a lot.
[00:52:32] Speaker B: I mean, I guess if you have that kind of like NFL money, like NFL fu money, like you can do that, but. Yeah, that's a lot.
[00:52:38] Speaker A: That was a lot of kids. I don't. I don't want nine kids.
[00:52:40] Speaker C: You're gonna have some grandbabies.
[00:52:42] Speaker A: At least one.
[00:52:43] Speaker B: A couple.
[00:52:44] Speaker A: Kenny, it's time for another interview.
[00:52:46] Speaker B: Let's do it.
How much money do you make before taxes?
I'm actually not comfortable answering that. Come on, we're doing the interview now, not you.
[00:53:01] Speaker A: Okay, so for this Brownsbackers interview, please help me. Welcome, hailing from Route 40 lumberjacks in Belmont, Ohio, the president of the Belmont Dog Pound, Dre.
Thanks for joining us. How are you today?
[00:53:16] Speaker E: I'm fantastic. Thanks for having me. Having me really, really excited to be here.
So, yeah, it's kind of. With us, you never know who might call you up and say, hey, join me for the day.
[00:53:27] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, we like to. It's not a typical practice to call you up day of, but we appreciate you answering the call.
[00:53:34] Speaker E: So little spontaneity never hurt anybody.
[00:53:39] Speaker A: So listen, tell us a little bit about your chapter, Velma.
[00:53:44] Speaker E: Dog Pound is new. We are only in our second year, so. So we kind of started out, there was a conversation had among our host for our bar for Route 40 lumberjacks. They're like, gosh, you know, there's a lot of Browns people in the area. And the next thing you know, a little conversation turned into us applying to be a chapter.
And they're like, well, we need someone to lead that. Well, here I sit.
Which led to quite the introduction with Corey because we were kind of scooting under the wire for getting our membership. And then we like proved our point point with complete massive inundation sign up. We had about 40 people in probably three days. We're like, we can do it.
[00:54:21] Speaker A: Nice.
[00:54:21] Speaker E: And so our chapter now has started for our second year. I went for my first Brownsbackers summit this year, which was very educational.
And as far as our chapter, a lot of it's pretty kind of low key. We've got some different experiences there. We embrace everybody. We are not a backers only. We have everything from Dallas to Steelers to the Bills and. And everybody shows up, everybody participates. So it really is kind of a neat experience.
[00:54:49] Speaker A: Then all the Browns fans talk shit to them.
[00:54:52] Speaker E: Yes. I tell you, it does get a little ugly on occasion. But I think one of the best things about choir chapter, we wanted to start for fundraising and kind of looked into that from a different phase of my life when I was doing fundraising when my kids were in high school. And so we started at this point what is effectually known as the Browns Backers quack.
So we sell ducks, we throw it half time. We actually toss on a turf. We have a massive piece of turf that we painted Belmont Dog Pound. Whoever gets the closest gets half the pot. The other half either goes to charity or helping support the club since we're brand new. So the backers quackers took flight. Corey actually kind of got wind of those. We made a little blip in the newsletter at one point last year.
So that was kind of a great way to start that. That and you know, all clubs have their thing. What do they like to do? So we do a lot of tailgating hardcore we, you know, you confiscate the pool tables with a piece of plywood, and in comes the smoked ribs, all the crock pots, all the good, good. And it's kind of become. That's the thing. That's how we tailgate.
[00:56:02] Speaker A: Nice.
Man, your guys club sounds like fun.
[00:56:05] Speaker B: Yeah, that does sound like a lot of fun.
[00:56:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
I mean, yeah, you guys are new, but you said you're up to how.
[00:56:14] Speaker E: Many members now on our actual role? I think we're a little over 60 this year. Kind of, you know, paying attention to the backers forum. Different things. We definitely are down. Like, our attendance has not been as great, but what I've seen from a lot of people, it's. We're all kind of there with that.
But, you know, we still have some loyal faithful. And we actually changed up this year a little bit. We rotate. I kind of put out a plea for a call that different Sundays, people kind of run it to see how it goes like that they'll do different things. I know the next one coming up, there's a taco bar that somebody's doing and different things just to.
Yes. So we are not a huge, massive chapter. I know some of the older ones that have been around for years have quite the following. It was really impressive this year at Summit to not only as far as our fan of the year from London and as well then for Denver for their chapter, things that they do. So that could be a Sunday. But for right now, we're still kind of, I would say, in infancy.
[00:57:12] Speaker A: Yeah, we're good friends. Kelly won fan of the year from the British Bulldogs, and. And Cliff Coulson out there won chapter of the year with Denver. So he's actually. It's very, very nice that you mentioned it because he's wearing her T shirt.
[00:57:25] Speaker E: I got some good rep there.
[00:57:28] Speaker A: See? See?
But no, it sounds like you guys.
[00:57:31] Speaker B: Are well on your way, though.
[00:57:32] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some of the things you guys are doing is incredible. Incredible. So.
[00:57:36] Speaker E: Well, you have to keep in mind, too, for Belmont, so for people who might not know where we are, we are very near Saint Clairsville, Ohio. And if people still blink at that, I would say we're as close as you can get to being in West Virginia and Wheeling and still be Ohioans.
So we are also down in the heart and soul of Steeler Country. So we have some good friendly competition and banter there. That is excessive sometimes.
[00:58:02] Speaker A: Yeah. And that was. I mean, just to be honest with you, we try and follow the team around as they go, and they're they're playing the Steelers this week, obviously. And there's only so many Browns backers groups in Pennsylvania. So that's why we started to branch out a little bit. Moved into Ohio, but still in that kind of Steelers territory where it's that, that whole eastern edge of Ohio. Everybody likes to root for the Steelers over there.
[00:58:25] Speaker B: So yeah, obviously I think it'll probably be an exciting week at the club, obviously with the Steelers week. So should be fun, right?
[00:58:33] Speaker E: Because you are right. There's only so many clubs down here in this area and then you wander right over to Steelers territory and I said can't remember the name of the club. So sorry for the backers. I know there's one up towards Boardman Youngstown area. You had north. They're up there also. But yeah, you get real close to the edge over here. It gets kind of spicy and competitive.
[00:58:53] Speaker A: Good. That's how we like it.
[00:58:55] Speaker B: A little spicy.
[00:58:55] Speaker A: Yeah.
But listen, let's, let's Dre, let's change gears here. We're going to actually get into the game a little bit. So we're going to start with a simple question. Who's going to win the game Sunday?
[00:59:06] Speaker E: You know, I know that I'm supposed to say the Browns, but I'm feeling a little.
[00:59:11] Speaker A: You don't have to.
[00:59:13] Speaker E: I'm feeling a little stressed out about it. And I mentioned to you my, my, my plus one for my backers forum and my other massive fan who is a huge Browns fan would be my son. And we referenced. He actually sent his feedback back on this one. So I know you guys can, can edit it will, or be like, oh, that was too much. But I've got some good analysis to share from you with my son who's sitting over here.
Well, yeah, this is his 20, my 28 year old's take on this because let me tell you, when I told him I was going to do this when I called him, he about jumped through his skin.
All right, we're ready.
[00:59:47] Speaker A: Exact words, just quote him. Just quote him.
[00:59:50] Speaker E: Are you right? You go ahead. You just sit there. Be prepared. We good? Okay, here we go.
Rookie quarterback Dylan Gabriel heads into the second start of his young career against an in division opponent, the Pittsburgh Steelers. Pittsburgh, 31 on the year finds itself atop the AFC north coming out of their bye week. This is thanks to solid overall play from Aaron Rodgers and a recent resurgence from the Steelers defense. After a rough initial two weeks, Pittsburgh's defense has forced seven turnovers, 11 sacks in the last two weeks. As a unit they're more susceptible to the pass than the run as they rank near the bottom of the league and passing yards allowed and around middle of the pack. Regarding the run, Kevin Stefanski will need to dial up some open looks and Gabriel will need to trust his eyes and arm to hit receivers on time. Also, while using his legs to extend plays and add extra time in the pocket, expect Gabriel to be under duress during the game. From T.J. watt, Cam Heyward and Co. The key matchup of the game Browns tackles Jack Conklin, a new addition Cam Robinson vs. The Steelers Pascal Rush this positional battle will play a large part in the Browns ability to push the ball through the air downfield, an aspect of our offense which has been dreadful so far this year.
Other Browns offensive personnel to keep an eye on would be Isaiah Bond, who has seen an uptick in targets due in part to Cedric Tillman's injury. Of course, Jumpins will resume his workhorse role. Sixteen to 20 carries, if not more, seems likely.
The Browns defense will face a new and improved defensive personnel grouping in Pittsburgh.
Najee Harris is gone along with George Pickens. New faces include DK Metcalfe, Jonu Smith and of course quarterback Aaron Rodgers. Jalen Warren, back from injury, will most likely resume his role as the lead back in this offense. Although Kenneth Gainwell performed admirably two weeks ago, Browns will need to pressure Rodgers early and often in this game to keep this score close. Also, look for Browns rookies Carson Swetzinger and Mason Graham to have major impacts once again. You can expect Miles will be very motivated to get after Rogers too.
Overall, this is a difficult but winnable matchup for the Browns. The game will most likely be decided by the outcome of our offense versus Pittsburgh's defense. Will Gabriel and the Browns passing attack be able to push the ball to the deep and intermediate parts of the field?
Success will require time, clean pockets and a strong running game to lean on play action.
Unfortunately, while I do think our defense keeps things close, I think Pittsburgh comes out on top in this fun. They're coming out of their buy with multiple weeks to prepare and simply put have looked to be a better team so far this season. Final score round 17 Steelers 24 so.
[01:02:28] Speaker A: Well that's the end of the show.
[01:02:29] Speaker B: I was gonna say I'm done. I there's no reason for us to.
[01:02:32] Speaker A: Be here we the entire show Tell tell your your 28 year old son tell him we didn't know he was going to be sending in a broadcast quality analysis of the matchup here so We. We just ended our show as soon as this interview was doper. It's the shortest show we've ever done.
[01:02:48] Speaker B: Go home now.
[01:02:49] Speaker A: We can go home. Everything was nice and easy.
[01:02:52] Speaker E: You ever need fil it or somebody else you want to chat with, you hook yourself up with him?
[01:02:56] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. We might have to give this guy a call. Do we need another correspondent?
[01:03:00] Speaker B: That was fantastic.
[01:03:01] Speaker A: Yeah. I just. Every time I thought I was gonna, like, wrap up, he's like. And there's this. I was like, whoa.
[01:03:08] Speaker E: I warned you. I'm like, it was coming. So there's no part to edit out of that. Like, you can't.
[01:03:15] Speaker A: No, I won't. We won't.
[01:03:16] Speaker B: It was.
[01:03:18] Speaker A: I meant him.
[01:03:19] Speaker E: I could. My text scrolled a little bit there, and I had a brief panic moment.
[01:03:25] Speaker A: I'm flabbergasted at how well that was done. So this is. This might be the best take we've ever had from a Brownsbackers.
[01:03:31] Speaker B: Absolutely. It's definitely the deepest analysis we've ever had.
[01:03:34] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. Are you sure he doesn't want.
[01:03:36] Speaker E: I don't have anything to compare. I just went with it.
[01:03:40] Speaker A: You sure he doesn't work for a radio station down there?
[01:03:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:03:45] Speaker E: We'll put you guys all in touch.
[01:03:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
Well, there you have it. The Browns are going to lose 24 to 17.
[01:03:53] Speaker E: So I know when you ask me, I'm like, the heart says, you know, it's almost like a Lee Corso moment and Buckeyes, but, like, I'm like, here's where we are.
You know, that's kind of like when we all sat around and watched Green Bay and we won. And I'm like, what just happened?
[01:04:11] Speaker A: Yeah, that's how we felt.
That was fantastic.
[01:04:16] Speaker E: Watching London. We were in Columbiana on a huge outdoor pavilion, watching the Browns on a massive big screen, and I was with another Browns fan, and she was having a moment, and we got in the vehicle, we drove away in the last two and a half minutes were on my phone on Hulu, and we all know how that works. I was like. I just couldn't get over it. I'm like, what happened?
[01:04:38] Speaker A: You can't count on the Browns to close games out. No, listen, Dre, that was fantastic.
I wish. I wish we had more time to. I wish we had more time to continue to explore this and dive deeper into the analysis that was just given to us. Unfortunately, we do have a show to do.
Somehow. I don't know how we're going to top that, but we're going to try and do our own show.
But, hey, listen, I really. I really appreciate you joining us. It's been fantastic. We enjoyed having you tell your son. What's your son's name?
[01:05:12] Speaker E: Dylan. Dylan Ker.
[01:05:14] Speaker A: He probably loves Dylan Gabriel because they got the same name.
Dylan. That was fantastic.
Like your mother said, if you would like to get in touch with us, send me an email.
We could talk about giving you your own segment, you know. Love to have you on the show. Thank. But you.
Thank you.
Yeah. Thank you. Thank you so much. And if we're down in Belmont during. On a game day anytime, we definitely will be stopping in to join in on these barbecues or taco bars that you got going on.
[01:05:43] Speaker E: So, hey, the smoked cream cheese is totally worth the trip, too.
[01:05:48] Speaker A: Absolutely. Dre, thanks again. We'll talk to you soon.
[01:05:52] Speaker E: Okay, thanks.
We're the Belmont Dog Pound, and you're listening to the Burning River Sportscast. Go Brown.
[01:06:07] Speaker A: Well, after that, we could just end the show.
[01:06:08] Speaker B: It's over.
[01:06:09] Speaker A: It's over.
[01:06:09] Speaker B: Bon appetit.
[01:06:10] Speaker A: Yep. We're done. We're done to go home. No, seriously, good time talking to Dre from the Belmont Dog Pound.
[01:06:17] Speaker B: And thanks for Dylan for the breakdown.
[01:06:19] Speaker A: Yeah, Dylan, good job, buddy.
[01:06:20] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:06:21] Speaker A: If you ever want a guest spot on a show, just give us a call.
[01:06:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:06:24] Speaker A: We get rid of Bone.
[01:06:25] Speaker B: Yeah. Come run the bone. Yeah.
[01:06:27] Speaker C: I wouldn't mind having some weeks off.
[01:06:28] Speaker A: Hey. Nope. We take it back. I instantly regret saying that.
I don't.
[01:06:33] Speaker B: Maybe. Maybe Dylan can join the live show since Bone refuses.
[01:06:36] Speaker A: Yeah. Dylan, chime in here.
[01:06:39] Speaker B: Drave is. Dre was fun, though. She was spicy.
[01:06:41] Speaker A: Yeah, she was spicy.
[01:06:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:06:42] Speaker A: She also. They have great parties down there. Like, that sounds dope.
[01:06:45] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:06:46] Speaker B: I mean, it's dope that they could just bring in their own stuff.
[01:06:48] Speaker A: There's like, we. We do full barbecues or we do taco.
[01:06:51] Speaker B: Taco bars or theme nights.
[01:06:53] Speaker A: Yeah, I like that. I like that she just turns it over to random people. She's like, that are members there, and she's like, here, you do it this way week.
[01:06:59] Speaker B: I mean, I just like. Like, it's like it sounds like they're doing it right.
[01:07:02] Speaker A: Right.
[01:07:02] Speaker B: Like, she's. She's growing the group. They've got a nice following already. They've got a nice. Nice location as a viewing location. They're, you know, doing the. What you call it, quacks for quacks.
Snacks and quacks.
[01:07:14] Speaker A: Or the quackers. Duck talker backers.
[01:07:16] Speaker B: Quacker backers.
[01:07:17] Speaker A: Yeah, something like that.
[01:07:17] Speaker B: Some fun going on.
[01:07:19] Speaker A: Yeah. Bone you were. You. Whatever.
[01:07:22] Speaker C: I'll have to listen. I didn't. I didn't hear it.
[01:07:24] Speaker A: Yeah, I wasn't here. They throw ducks into a certain. Into a big. They gotta make it in the. In the spot. In the bullseye.
[01:07:29] Speaker B: I love.
[01:07:30] Speaker C: I love a up game.
[01:07:31] Speaker B: Whoever's closer. 50. 50.
[01:07:33] Speaker A: Yeah. Whoever's closest wins.
[01:07:34] Speaker C: That's cool.
[01:07:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:07:37] Speaker B: But.
[01:07:37] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, it was. It was awesome. So.
But listen, before we get into the week six preview, I. I think we've got another incoming message from the Brownster knot. Yeah. So it's time for mission control with Brownster.
[01:07:50] Speaker B: T minus 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
Zero.
Ignition.
[01:08:04] Speaker D: Liftoff.
[01:08:06] Speaker A: Liftoff. 30 minutes after the hour.
[01:08:11] Speaker B: Mission control, this is Brown Schnautt calling out on the burning river Sportscast. Do you guys copy? Roger that. The dog ship just passed through Pittsburgh's orbit, and I detected high levels of rust coming from the Steel Curtain. My boosters are locked and loaded, and I'm ready to turn them terrible towels to dust. Let's get this dog, Cleveland. Send this dog back home. Peace.
[01:08:36] Speaker A: Once again, a lot of positivity coming from that guy.
Let's kill it.
It's time for the Week 6 preview.
[01:08:43] Speaker B: Later, Brownstron.
[01:08:58] Speaker A: I've got to apologize a little bit to the Brownster.
[01:09:01] Speaker B: Not. That was unnecessarily mean.
[01:09:03] Speaker A: I'm sorry, Brownster. We appreciate you getting us hyped up for the game. It's just.
[01:09:07] Speaker B: It's.
[01:09:08] Speaker A: It's.
We're realists, so it's a little hard to keep that enthusiasm as we get into the preview.
[01:09:13] Speaker B: Don't listen to him, Brownster.
[01:09:14] Speaker E: Not.
[01:09:14] Speaker B: He basically just on you.
[01:09:17] Speaker A: Yeah. Sorry, buddy.
[01:09:18] Speaker B: Buddy.
This week, guys, I don't know why anyone listens to our show, joins it.
[01:09:23] Speaker A: Or shit on everyone.
[01:09:24] Speaker B: All we do is they're mean to people.
Yeah.
[01:09:27] Speaker A: So this week, we have the Pittsburgh Steelers. And with another preview comes another edition of Kenny's Cliff Notes.
[01:09:36] Speaker B: Oh, boy. Kenny's Cliff Notes.
[01:09:38] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:09:38] Speaker B: Oh, boy.
[01:09:43] Speaker A: All right, what are they. What do you got?
[01:09:45] Speaker B: Kenny's Cliffs Notes.
Browns v Steelers. Entering his 19th year as head coach, Mike Tomlin is doing the unthinkable as he has his Steelers 3 and 1, and atop the AFC North. Arthur Smith returns as the OC and Terrell Austin is in his third season as the defensive coordinator. Very little to write home about across the rest of their coaching staff, although they do have a tight ends coach named Alfredo and a secondary coach.
[01:10:14] Speaker A: Like the noodles.
[01:10:15] Speaker B: Yeah, like the.
[01:10:16] Speaker A: Like the dish.
[01:10:17] Speaker C: Sauce.
[01:10:18] Speaker A: Yeah, the sauce.
[01:10:19] Speaker B: You know, like Fettuccine is the noodle.
[01:10:20] Speaker A: Fettuccine Alfredo.
[01:10:21] Speaker B: Yeah. And they do have a secondary coach named Anthony Midget, although I do believe the accepted vernacular is little person.
[01:10:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:10:29] Speaker B: 41 year 41 year old Aaron Rodgers is completing nearly 69 69% of his passes and has eight touchdowns to just three picks in this first four games. Don't worry though. If he gets too old during the game, we won't see Ohio State production Will Howard as he's on IR along with recently mugged 4 stringer Skyler Thompson, meaning perennial backup Mason Rudolph would see action in the event of a geriatric setback. Jay Jaylen Warren and Kenneth Gainwell are young but capable runners and newcomer DK Metcalf is a tough matchup for anyone since he's built like Arnold schwarzenegger in the 60s. With the attention DK draws, Calvin Austin and Ben Square Onic are sure to see Buku targets. Johnny Smith adds some athleticism to their tight end unit along with veteran Pat Fly. Friarmouth.
The Steelers offensive line is currently a work in progress. Showing early promise in pass protection but struggling to establish consistent run blocking. Currently ranks in the bottom third of the league.
Statistically, this Steelers defense has underperformed, but don't kid yourself, they have plenty of players across this unit that will definitely wreck Kevin Stefanski's impotent offense. Cam Hayward and T.J. watt lead a strong pass rush. Patrick Queen and Alex Highsmith are high end line. Linebackers Darius SLAY, Joey Porter Jr. And Jalen Ramsey bolster a formidable secondary. Sure to find a duck or two from Dylan Dink and Dunk. Chris Boswell doesn't miss. And Corliss Weightman has one of the best names in football. Not a fantastic punter, but his name looks cool in calligraphy. Go Browns.
[01:11:59] Speaker A: Did you just call him Dylan Dinkin Dunk?
[01:12:01] Speaker C: I like that.
Is that my fair Dylan Dinkin?
[01:12:05] Speaker A: Is that what's better, Dylan Dinkin dunk or Hawaii 59?
[01:12:09] Speaker B: He's all those things.
[01:12:11] Speaker A: Dylan Dinkin.
[01:12:12] Speaker B: I feel like there you could monetize Dylan Dinkin dunk. You could get a Dunkin Donuts commercial or something.
[01:12:16] Speaker A: I think Hawaii 59 you could do the same thing with. That's pretty good.
[01:12:20] Speaker B: That's Kenny's Cliff's Notes.
[01:12:21] Speaker A: Thank you. And with every edition of Kenny's Cliff Notes comes another edition of Rowdy Jams Matchups.
I had three matchups that mattered last week, but you can't guess how many I have this week.
[01:12:46] Speaker B: Is it two?
[01:12:48] Speaker A: It's two.
Number one Here is Miles Garrett versus Aaron Rodgers. And I know that seems obvious, but Miles Garrett, if you guys remember, before the season started, when they asked him about Aaron Rodgers going to the Steelers, he was excited about it and he said he was going to add him to the graveyard.
[01:13:01] Speaker B: Put him in the graveyard.
[01:13:02] Speaker A: So I think he's going to be extra motivated to do that. It's also Halloween season, so you know, the Miles Gary gets a little wickety around this time.
[01:13:10] Speaker B: Is that it is expert analysis there.
[01:13:14] Speaker A: No.
[01:13:15] Speaker C: Miles loves Halloween.
[01:13:16] Speaker A: He loves Halloween.
[01:13:17] Speaker B: Miles gets a little wiggity around the holidays.
[01:13:19] Speaker A: Yeah. So I just think he'll be extra motivated to get a sack and hopefully he gets more than one because he didn't have any this past week.
[01:13:26] Speaker D: Week.
[01:13:26] Speaker B: That's what we call analytics.
[01:13:27] Speaker A: Yeah.
Brs.
Next up, TJ Watt versus Jack Conklin and KT Leviston or Cam Robinson or whoever plays here, I don't know. But here's the deal. T.J. watts, pretty good. He always seems to play well against the Browns and our offensive line, who knows who it's going to be and how good they're going to be, so.
[01:13:49] Speaker B: Oh, they won't be good.
[01:13:50] Speaker A: Yeah. So know they're going to at least have to slow him down for us to have a chance in this game.
[01:13:55] Speaker B: It's going to be a long day for dg.
[01:13:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Our offensive line is ass.
Expert analysis, Miles.
[01:14:03] Speaker B: A little wiggity. And our offensive line is ass.
[01:14:05] Speaker A: Yeah. So in summary, the Steelers are coming off a buy. They're fully rested. They're three and one. This is where things get a little surprising. Given they're 3 and 1.
The defensive unit ranks 28 overall in the NFL. Their pass defense ranks number 30 and their run defense is number 19. And so. So you think, okay, their defense isn't good. That means their offense has to be really good, Right? No, you're wrong. Overall, they ranked number 29 in the NFL. Their running game is number 31 in the NFL and their passing game is number 27. So they literally don't do anything.
[01:14:36] Speaker B: Well, I think that's why even at 3 and 1 and that the Browns at 1 and 4, we look at it and we say like this division is actually wide open because.
[01:14:47] Speaker A: Oh yeah, I still really bad.
[01:14:48] Speaker B: The Bengals are without their starting quarterback and the steals Steelers are winning games beyond comprehension at this point.
[01:14:56] Speaker A: Yeah. I still maintain the Steelers are ass. So. But so are the Browns. So let's talk about the Browns coming off another bad loss in London.
They got a 1 in 4 record. Still not a great team. Dylan Gabriel's playing quarterback now. Not that that matters.
Defensively, they rank as the number two overall defense in the NFL, the number one run defense and the number four pass defense. Offensively, still not good. Overall, number 27. Not as bad as the Steelers, but overall, number 27. They're number 26 in the running game and number 24 in the passing game.
Do the Browns have a chance? I don't know.
I was just gonna go with it. I don't know, but you can say no. But you know who can tell us what they have to do to get a win here?
The big Bone Man. It's time for Bone Man. Skeleton Key to Victory.
[01:15:51] Speaker C: I don't really got anything good here, guys.
[01:15:53] Speaker A: Nothing.
[01:15:55] Speaker B: Over and over.
[01:15:56] Speaker A: Yeah. How did. How did turnovers work out for us?
[01:16:00] Speaker C: Did not work. We had plus. We were plus two on the turnover battle last week, and we didn't even turn the ball over at all. We still lost.
And you know why? Because we don't score enough points. So I'm just going to say it simply. We just need to score over 17 points. Let's put on up 20. Let's put up 20 against these old squealers, and we'll win the game.
It's asking a lot. I know.
[01:16:24] Speaker A: I'm shook.
[01:16:25] Speaker B: I'm so is bold.
[01:16:26] Speaker C: I mean, it's.
[01:16:27] Speaker A: He basically. He basically is saying the Browns are going to lose because we're not putting up 20 points.
[01:16:31] Speaker C: I know it's bold, but I'm going there. We need to score 20 points.
[01:16:36] Speaker B: So officially, is the skeleton key to victory. Score more points than the other team.
[01:16:39] Speaker C: That's basic. Basic as it gets, yes.
[01:16:42] Speaker A: I don't even think it was that. I think it's just score 20 points, just score 20. Yeah.
[01:16:47] Speaker C: I mean, that's all there is to it.
[01:16:48] Speaker A: All right.
[01:16:48] Speaker C: And we probably will still lose.
[01:16:50] Speaker A: I accept that. Kenny. Kenny, Give us the betting info.
[01:16:54] Speaker B: Oh, the betting info. I'll tell you what the betting info is, line. Steelers minus five and a half.
[01:17:00] Speaker D: Over.
[01:17:00] Speaker B: Under 38 and a half.
[01:17:03] Speaker A: Low scoring game.
[01:17:05] Speaker B: Two teams trying to score 20 points.
[01:17:08] Speaker A: Yeah, neither can do it. No problem.
[01:17:10] Speaker B: Under is not 40.
[01:17:11] Speaker A: Yeah. Player to watch. We'll start with Kenny. Who you got?
[01:17:15] Speaker B: Oh, geez.
[01:17:16] Speaker A: Yeah, I came right back to you.
[01:17:18] Speaker B: You know, I was. I was gonna go Quinson, just because this. He's the only thing that's remotely watchable in this offense, but that's too obvious because he's the dog.
[01:17:26] Speaker A: They have the number 31 every week. Number 30. No, they're number 19 against the run.
[01:17:31] Speaker B: Am I gone? So I'm actually gonna go play around to watch this week. Denzel Ward, questionable with a hip injury, but draws a tough matchup with Aaron Rodgers and DK Metcalf. So if the Browns have any chance at all to win this game, it's going to be that defense, you know, making an interception, a return, pick six, scoop and score some kind of ridiculous defensive play that supplements the offensive production. So if the Browns got a shot, maybe Denzel Ward can do something.
[01:17:56] Speaker A: Bone.
[01:17:58] Speaker E: I like it.
[01:17:58] Speaker C: I'm going to stick with the defense. I'm going to go Miles Garrett. Garrett and Kenny or Mr. Thunder already kind of touched on it. But yeah, it's just against the Steelers, he. He always seems to show up, get a sack or two.
And he. Like we said, we need to get Mr. Rogers in the graveyard.
[01:18:17] Speaker A: I think I talked about that.
[01:18:19] Speaker C: Was that Ronnie?
[01:18:20] Speaker B: Mr. Rogers is in the graveyard?
[01:18:22] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:18:22] Speaker A: What a dick, man.
Mr. Rogers.
That was funny. It took me a second. No, I'm. I'm really mad at Bone right now, though, because he gave you credit for this and I was the one that talked about.
Talked about what? Miles Garrett. Putting him in the graveyard.
[01:18:36] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Short term, long term memory is not great.
[01:18:40] Speaker A: It's a bad friend. I literally talked about it. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:18:43] Speaker B: Ash Gaga.
[01:18:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
My player to watch is David and Joku.
It was pretty encouraging, actually. The first game Dylan Gabriel started, he had a pretty good rapport with David and Joku. We finally saw a big game out of him. So, you know, we don't really have an offense. And you called him Dylan Dinkin Dunk. So who's he gonna be Dinking and Dunkin, too.
[01:19:04] Speaker B: That's the guy.
[01:19:05] Speaker A: Dylan Dinkin dunks to David.
[01:19:06] Speaker B: Flat routes, dunks to David.
[01:19:09] Speaker A: So I'm going David a joke.
All right, guys, it's time for another edition of can we talk about this?
Okay, so in case anyone doesn't know, this isn't a regular segment for us, but we do. We use this segment when one of us has something that they feel needs to be talked about or explored further. So with that being said, Kenny, I think you have something for us today.
[01:19:35] Speaker B: Yeah. So thanks to the Browns and the Browns fan cruise, I've become somewhat of a cruiser.
[01:19:44] Speaker A: That's true. You've been on, like three since then.
[01:19:46] Speaker B: Yeah, I enjoy. I enjoy the cruise vacation. The cruise life now.
[01:19:49] Speaker A: And which is funny because I want to go all the way back to. To our. Our episode right after the cruise. And you're like, I don't know if I like cruises.
And then you proceed to be a cruiser.
[01:19:59] Speaker B: Turns out I really like cruising. I like boats.
[01:20:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:20:02] Speaker B: So anyway, one of the interesting things about cruising is you are often in leisure wear or a swimsuit. And for men, that's really not a problem because our shorts and even our swim trunks always have pockets.
But for women especially, that are in, like, bikinis, you don't always need to have your wallet or a credit card on you, but you do need to have your cruise card on you. And so if you're a woman in a bikini, you really don't have a place to put your cruise card. So you can buy drinks or candy or whatever else that you might need to do.
And so I seen this come up a few times on some of the cruise boards that I follow.
And what a lot of women do is they keep their cruise cards in their lady brief, which would be like, you know, the upper boob.
[01:20:51] Speaker A: I wouldn't have went there if you told me lady briefcase under the.
[01:20:55] Speaker B: Under the.
[01:20:55] Speaker A: I would have thought something else under.
[01:20:57] Speaker B: Under the bra strap, you know, on a. Like a bikini top.
[01:21:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:21:00] Speaker B: Okay.
And it's. It opened up a very heated debate on, is that gross and unhygienic to have to hand someone working on a cruise ship your sweaty boob sweat card to purchase things or get around on the boat?
[01:21:18] Speaker A: So before we dive into this, because I think this is gonna be a good conversation, I just have to say, you know how I know you're old. You follow cruise boards.
You know, you get.
[01:21:27] Speaker B: You get tips and tricks for, like.
[01:21:28] Speaker A: What do you bring? Just trying to explain it away, buddy.
[01:21:31] Speaker B: You know?
[01:21:31] Speaker A: Yeah.
To me, I'm like, why is it any for. To answer your question, like, on the surface, like, yeah, maybe that's a little gross, but, like, it. Like, whatever you guys are. Do you realize you're on a. You're on a cruise?
[01:21:47] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:21:47] Speaker A: Like, it's like, one of the most unhygienic places. Is that a word? I don't know. It's one of the dirtiest places you could be.
Like, everything gets transmitted to everybody on a cruise. So, like, are you really worried about that?
[01:22:00] Speaker B: I guess if you're a worker, though, and you have to accept the boob sweat card out of the, you know, Twin City bank or the granny purse, like, is that gross?
[01:22:08] Speaker C: I feel you should already expect it. I mean, you're. You're passing off a form of currency for. From someone you don't know.
[01:22:13] Speaker E: Right.
[01:22:14] Speaker A: You know how dirty money is, regardless of where they're keeping it before you get it. All the places it's been before that.
[01:22:22] Speaker B: I guess the question is, is your sweaty boob any more dirty than, like, your hands?
[01:22:30] Speaker A: No.
[01:22:30] Speaker C: I would say.
[01:22:32] Speaker A: I would say it's probably cleaner with all the stuff you're touching.
[01:22:34] Speaker B: Or are we, like.
[01:22:35] Speaker A: It's just also, I'm going to say this.
You think that that worker would rather have their. Their boob sweat or gross big man sweat from you coming out of your pocket?
[01:22:46] Speaker C: I mean, how many people don't wash their hands after they go to the bathroom?
[01:22:48] Speaker D: Right?
[01:22:48] Speaker C: It's just like.
[01:22:49] Speaker A: Yeah, well, Kenny never does. Kenny's never washed his hands in his life.
[01:22:53] Speaker B: Where does that come from?
[01:22:54] Speaker A: I don't know. I.
I made that up.
[01:22:57] Speaker B: Part of the segment.
[01:22:58] Speaker A: I made that up.
I have no idea how many times he's washed.
[01:23:02] Speaker C: Practice, frequent hand washing, psa.
[01:23:05] Speaker B: I didn't know we were supposed to wash our hands until Covid, but after that I've been doing it.
So. So patient zero. So I. I guess it sounds like we are in almost unanimous agreement here that, like, it's just skin and it's no more gross than your hands. No, but I guess my next question would be, instead of using a lady briefcase, what if I started using the sack wallet?
[01:23:28] Speaker A: That's a little.
[01:23:29] Speaker B: Is it different, though, or is it just skin?
[01:23:31] Speaker A: No, it is different.
[01:23:32] Speaker C: Because slower body.
[01:23:34] Speaker A: Well, yeah, lower body, first of all. And second of all, we all have sex. We know how much sweat really gets in there and how disgusting that gets. Like, so you're saying, like, right here on, On. On. On a girl's chest, like, while it may get sweaty, like, it's not. You're not. You're not even talking, like, under boob sweat. You're talking like, sweat right here. Like, sweat down there gets pretty under boob sweat worse.
[01:23:55] Speaker B: If the lady briefcase was under the boob.
[01:23:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:23:58] Speaker B: So you wouldn't.
[01:23:59] Speaker A: I would be less inclined to take that one. I be that if they kept it.
[01:24:02] Speaker B: In the actual boostier, you wouldn't. You wouldn't accept that. That's officially gross.
[01:24:06] Speaker A: I think that would be worse.
I, I probably. I mean, you got to still accept it because it's the cruise card. What are you going to do?
[01:24:14] Speaker B: So the consensus is lady briefcase is fine. Sack wallet is not.
[01:24:18] Speaker A: You can't use the sack wallet.
[01:24:19] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, I agree with that.
[01:24:21] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. There's. There's also to bone's point, there's just something about lower half private parts that are just way more. More gr. Intimate and gross. Than your. Your right here on your.
[01:24:36] Speaker B: What if it was in the front of like the bikini? Bottom on top in the pelvic area.
[01:24:41] Speaker A: Yeah. Now you're probably starting to get pretty. That's. Yeah, that's gross.
[01:24:45] Speaker B: But is that skin dirtier than your hands? You probably got out of the shower and put on your bikini and it hasn't touched anything.
[01:24:50] Speaker A: I mean, probably point. Probably not, but the perception.
[01:24:55] Speaker B: Well, that's what I.
[01:24:56] Speaker C: Right.
[01:24:56] Speaker B: Is it actually grows or is it just the perception? Because it's probably perception. That's what this whole debate is about. Right.
[01:25:02] Speaker A: I'm still sticking with. If you put it down in your sack wallet, like that's. That's.
[01:25:06] Speaker B: You're.
[01:25:06] Speaker A: That's not good.
Like that's probably the grossest one that you've given. Other than maybe you go in the back pocket. But yeah, yeah.
[01:25:19] Speaker B: I mean, look, I don't really have it. I just. What.
[01:25:21] Speaker A: What are your thoughts on.
[01:25:22] Speaker B: This was an interesting take because at first. At first my first instinct was, yeah, boob sweat is gross. No one should have to handle the card that's held in boob sweat. But then the more I thought about it, the more I was like, well, your boobs probably actually pretty clean compared to like your hands. Especially on a cruise ship where everybody's touching everything. Elevator buttons and everything else and buffets.
[01:25:38] Speaker A: Right. Is it like norovirus, like a super common thing?
[01:25:41] Speaker B: Everybody gets sick on cruise ships.
[01:25:42] Speaker A: That's what you get when you go on a cruise.
[01:25:45] Speaker B: But. But then I was like, is there a difference between my boob skin and my hand skin? And then I was like, well, is there a difference between my hand skin and my sack skin?
[01:25:53] Speaker A: Skin, big difference. It's also, especially your sick.
[01:25:56] Speaker B: Also potentially very clean.
If it's just skin.
[01:26:02] Speaker C: Doesn't different parts of your body sweat differently? Like under your armpits or your butt crack or.
[01:26:07] Speaker A: That's getting way too scientific. I don't know.
[01:26:09] Speaker B: Well, you said the under boob is unacceptable.
[01:26:11] Speaker C: I mean, we don't put deodorant all over our entire body, right?
[01:26:14] Speaker A: Maybe we should.
[01:26:15] Speaker B: I don't put deodorant on my sack, that's for sure.
[01:26:17] Speaker A: Yeah, maybe we should. Let's start doing it. Kenny, you're the. You're gonna start this. Let's see how it goes.
[01:26:21] Speaker B: Maybe I'll do my Brazilian. We'll see how that goes.
[01:26:23] Speaker C: When I was a kid that you did that. Cuz it didn't make sense.
[01:26:26] Speaker B: You put deodorant on your sex.
[01:26:28] Speaker C: I was like, I sweat everywhere. All over my body. Why do I only put it under my arms?
[01:26:32] Speaker A: So for years, Bone was just putting all over his body.
[01:26:36] Speaker B: Mitchum deodorant sticks. He was going through deodorant so fast.
[01:26:39] Speaker C: Just painting it on.
[01:26:39] Speaker A: How do you use a stick of deodorant in a week?
How do you use a sticky deodorant.
[01:26:44] Speaker B: On your, your sack?
[01:26:46] Speaker A: Wow, man. This, this one places I didn't think it would go. And that's why we have this segment.
This has been another edition of can we talk about this?
[01:26:53] Speaker B: Can we talk about it? We talked about it.
[01:26:55] Speaker A: I like that the graphic says, let's talk about this.
[01:26:58] Speaker B: You get it wrong every time.
[01:27:02] Speaker A: With that, I think I'm gonna bring in our defensive correspondent, John Hughes.
[01:27:08] Speaker B: Powered by Riverside FF.
[01:27:13] Speaker A: All right, guys, please help me. Welcome to the show, former defensive tackle for the Cleveland Browns, our defensive correspondent, the one, the only, the baddest.
Big John. Big John.
Yeah. So listen, we're going to do things a little different today because there's some scheduling conflicts. Things got weird this week, so I know usually we have you on for King of the north and we just kind of run with it. What we're going to do today, though is, is kind of lean a little bit into your defensive correspondence.
[01:27:42] Speaker B: It.
[01:27:42] Speaker A: And just correspondent in general knowledge, have a quick conversation about the team and then we'll get your picks for King of the north before we get off here. So get off here.
[01:27:51] Speaker D: Anyways.
[01:27:54] Speaker A: So. Yeah, so let's go ahead and get into it. The first, first question here, John, what the hell is going on?
[01:28:01] Speaker D: No, that's a million dollar question, man. I, I wish I could give you a great answer that could solve everything, but that's, that's definitely a big question to ask.
[01:28:11] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, well, let's start with the obvious. Like what? Joe Flacco traded to the, to the Bengals. You trade your, your team captain to a division rival less than halfway through the season. I mean, is this a good move? What do you think?
[01:28:25] Speaker D: Honestly, I was really surprised when I saw that trade go through just because you see a lot of guys, you know, after the season and free agency, they might get picked up by a team in the division because that, that team has, has the most film on you. Right? They've seen you twice a year and, you know, they, they've seen you the most. But to see a trade within Division I, it's. That's kind of crazy to see.
[01:28:46] Speaker A: Right?
[01:28:46] Speaker D: I mean, you know, if, if it does work for, for Cincinnati and, and Joe Flacco does well, you know, what does that say about us in Cleveland?
[01:28:56] Speaker A: Right?
[01:28:56] Speaker B: Yeah, that's kind of what does it say about us?
[01:29:01] Speaker D: I mean, in, in the fact is, you know, trying to, you know, we're trying to do, you know, still at 104, we still have room to win the division and there's. Everything's still out there. Right. But it's like we're almost helping our arch nemesis in a way, and it's kind of weird to see a trade in the division.
[01:29:21] Speaker A: Well, I can understand if they would have been like, we're gonna give you a second round or for him, I'd have been like, hell yeah, let's do it. But like, really all you're doing is swapping late round picks, so you don't get much from it.
[01:29:30] Speaker B: I mean, they moved up what, like 30 spots or something based, basically.
[01:29:34] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:29:34] Speaker A: And it's, and it's. Regardless whether it's the fifth or the sixth round, it's all basic. I mean, there's a lot of flyers at that point. Right? Yeah, but I, I don't know. I just, it, it just seems odd that for that, that's.
[01:29:46] Speaker B: They're.
[01:29:46] Speaker A: They're going to trade their team captain to a division rival mid season, but. Yeah.
Critical.
Right?
[01:29:53] Speaker D: Yeah. No, I was just gonna say how much confidence they have in Dylan Gabriel already after one game.
You know, I was looking up some stuff and saw his numbers compared to Baker's first game and they.
Right. So I mean, I guess, I guess the upper, upper management has that much confidence with Dylan going forward to, to, you know, get flack of the boot.
[01:30:16] Speaker B: Yeah, I think that's where numbers don't always tell the whole story though. Right. Because in that game that Baker started and won.
[01:30:25] Speaker A: Well, he didn't win his first start.
[01:30:28] Speaker B: He came well against.
[01:30:29] Speaker A: You're talking about the. When he didn't start. But I know what you're saying.
[01:30:32] Speaker B: Yeah, his first game in the NFL.
[01:30:34] Speaker E: Yeah.
[01:30:34] Speaker B: When he came in, he threw two, two touchdowns for 200 yards starting in the second quarter in a win.
[01:30:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:30:41] Speaker B: Where they were battling back the whole time. This was very much a conservative dink and dunk kind of offense. And I mean, 40 of those yards came in Hail Mary time on the final drive there with 25 seconds left. So statistically comparable. But I mean, to be honest, John, like, what was your grade on him? Obviously with the first start just being overseas tough and environment. How do you think he actually fared?
[01:31:08] Speaker D: Yeah, I, I think he did. He did well for his first start. I mean, and like you were saying with, with Baker's first, first time getting in, getting in the second quarter, you know, Dylan had the whole week to prepare as the starter coming into this game and obviously going into a different atmosphere or a different environment with playing in London, but you still have the whole week to prepare. So, you know, you, you would almost expect him to be more prepared for this game than, you know, than anything.
[01:31:35] Speaker A: Yeah. And, and another thing here, like, we've been hyper critical of Kevin Stefanski and I think it's, I think it's warranted. I think he's been pretty God awful for the last year and a half, so, you know, not to get started on the hyper criticality. Is that a word of that right now? But I just, you know, what are your thoughts on Stefanski? There's a lot of defenders that are still out there, but the fact remains that he is currently 41 and 48. And the way this team is going, by the end of the year, he's going to be about 16 games under.500 through six years.
[01:32:12] Speaker B: Oh, and he's 4 and 18 in the last 22.
[01:32:14] Speaker A: Yeah, and, and, and he's. Yeah, in the last 22. And he's 4 and 20 in the last 24. So it's, it just keeps getting worse.
So.
Yeah, since 2000, like, no coach has ever survived that type of record through five or even six years. Where do you see things going by the end of the season?
[01:32:38] Speaker D: I think time will tell, depending on how the rest of the season goes, but I feel like a big part of it is us.
I say us, but, you know, just the, the people making the big decisions in Cleveland, they're hanging on to Kevin Samanski. You're not making a big decision.
[01:32:52] Speaker A: Decisions, John. Yeah.
[01:32:53] Speaker B: Come on, John.
[01:32:56] Speaker D: Pay grade would have to be a little bit higher for those decisions.
[01:32:59] Speaker A: Right.
[01:32:59] Speaker D: But it's.
But, but, but to be able to hold on to what Savansky's done in the beginning. Right. And, and having that kind of, that hope and belief that things going to turn around because he has had success in Cleveland. Right. And that's one thing we can take from all the other coaches and him. Right. That's the biggest difference that he has, you know, had success in Cleveland. So we're hoping to get that same type of success, that same ball rolling at some point.
[01:33:30] Speaker A: Yeah. And I, I understand the hope and whatever of getting that back, but I'm going to use a phrase that my mom taught me growing up, and it was hope in one hand and in the other, and see which one fills up faster?
[01:33:42] Speaker B: Yep.
[01:33:43] Speaker A: So, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just.
I find it. I'm getting increasing. It's getting increasingly hard to not just ask to be. And this is not. This is not pointed at you in any way, John, because I know you're trying to be optimistic. You were a former Brown. It's a little different with you. But these fans that are. That are optimistic or whatever that Stefanski is going to somehow regain this form, I'm just like, at what point. Point does he get so far under.500, he loses so many games that you finally accept, well, maybe this ain't our guy.
[01:34:19] Speaker D: Yeah, no, like I said, I feel like time will tell, right? We'll have to see how the rest of the season plays out. So. And I guess the question would be if.
If he wins, you know, X amount of games, we make the playoffs. Right. Are we having the same conversation? You know what I mean?
[01:34:35] Speaker B: So is.
[01:34:36] Speaker D: Is it really what he does this season or is it the. The body of work that he's kind of built or hasn't built over the past couple years?
[01:34:44] Speaker A: Yeah, well, if he did make the playoffs this year, he wouldn't be 16 games under.500 and he would have taken a. I mean, I mean, let's face it, he would have taken a really, really bad team this year to the playoffs. So that warrants another season, I would say. I just don't see it happening.
[01:34:59] Speaker B: Absolutely. Yeah. We'll have to wait and see there, John. Always appreciate your insight on those things, but let's, let's jump into your picks for this week. Let's see, what do you. Who do we have first on the docket there?
[01:35:10] Speaker A: All right, so, yeah, so the first game for King of the north is going to be Cincinnati at Green Bay. Who you got there, John?
[01:35:19] Speaker D: I think I'm gonna have to take Green Bay on this one.
Just going off of what we've seen the past few weeks in Cincinnati and their lack of production. Kind of the same conversation we had, you know, last week or the couple weeks, weeks before with Burrow being out, I think that. That mystery they have at quarterback and, you know, with Flacco coming in this week, you know, the offense is going to be. It's had to be pretty simple if he's starting. Right. So it's like, you know, maybe, you know, in a couple weeks they'll get things going, but I don't think, you know, coming in this week, they're going to be able to solve their. Their issues. So I got Green Bay on that one.
[01:35:57] Speaker A: And Cincinnati is really bad, so. Yeah, there's that.
[01:36:03] Speaker D: So.
[01:36:03] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Next up here, we've got the Rams visiting Baltimore.
[01:36:11] Speaker D: I'm gonna, I'm gonna go with.
I'll go with Baltimore on this one. I'll go with Baltimore.
And just simple fact that I'm, I'm, I feel like Henry's got to get going at some point. I mean, we're talking about, you know, the top, top back in the league last year and rush rushing yards. One of the top backs in the league in rushing yards. It's, it's almost, you know, the past couple weeks, what we've seen from him isn't, you know, characteristic of, of Henry. So I feel like he's going to get it going soon.
Yeah. So I'm going to say I'm going to take Baltimore with this one.
[01:36:45] Speaker A: Okay. And then finally, the reason for the season, why we're here.
We got the Browns visiting the Steelers. Who you got?
Just do it. Go Browns.
[01:37:02] Speaker D: I have to, right? I mean, I would, I wouldn't be a former Brown star if I picked the Steelers in any situation against Cleveland.
But, but what I will say is it's, I feel like our defense matches up well against any, any offense in the league. Right. It's all, it's all about what we do on offense or what we're able to do on offense.
I think it's going to be a low scoring game. I'm going to have Brian Browns, let's say 14, 10.
We have, we haven't scored over, what, 20, 21 this year.
[01:37:32] Speaker A: We haven't scored over 17 points, I don't think. Did we?
[01:37:35] Speaker D: 17, right. Okay, 17.
[01:37:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:37:37] Speaker D: So I, I say we find the end zone twice and we'll, we'll go, we'll go 1410 Browns.
[01:37:44] Speaker A: That's bold.
[01:37:44] Speaker B: Very bold, John.
[01:37:45] Speaker C: That is.
[01:37:47] Speaker A: Well, listen, John, we appreciate you being on. We'll, we'll insert those picks into the King of the north segment and we'll talk about them. We might make fun of you a little bit, you know. We'll see. We'll see.
One, I have two, two things left to tell you. One's a question, one's. One's just a fact.
First, I guess it starts with the fact you and Kenny are at the, at the tail end of King of the North. Who's gonna come out on bottom this year.
[01:38:16] Speaker D: Man, for what the punishment is, man, I'm hoping it's Kenny. I'm really hoping it'.
[01:38:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't really have a dog in this fight because I'm. If it. If it's Kenny, then he gets punished for a fourth time. If it's you, you get punished in your inaugural year, which is also funny. So, you know, it's. It is what it is.
We'll see. The other thing I wanted to tell you is our shirts.
Say that again. Oh, okay.
[01:38:50] Speaker D: I like it. I need one of those.
[01:38:53] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, our shirt. Our shirts have arrived. Yours is sitting in my office. So that'll be.
[01:38:58] Speaker B: That is fine.
[01:38:59] Speaker A: It'll be going this week, so you should be able to wear it next time you're on the show for sure.
So. But again, John, I appreciate you being on. I know, you know, like I said, schedules got weird this week. We appreciate your time and we'll see you next time.
[01:39:14] Speaker D: Yeah, no worries, man. I'm glad we can make it happen, man. I'll talk to you guys. All right.
[01:39:22] Speaker B: Powered by Riverside fm.
[01:39:29] Speaker A: Good time talking to John. A lot of good insight there.
He's, you know, it's. He's in a tough position. He's a former Brown.
[01:39:37] Speaker B: Look, I don't want to talk about John right now because he's about to annihilate me next week.
[01:39:41] Speaker A: So it is coming up. Yeah. In case anyone. Well, we'll get into it in a second.
It's time for King of the North.
Okay, you ready, Kenny?
[01:40:02] Speaker B: Here we go.
[01:40:03] Speaker A: In case anyone doesn't know by now, this is our year long AFC north pick em competition at the end of the season, whoever comes in last place gets punished. In the preseason two years ago, Kenny had a gross of eggs thrown at him by fans of the muni lot before a game in the preseason last year, Ken, Kenny had his hair and beard shaved clean off. Coming up next week, as you just mentioned, for losing this past season, Kenny is going to get hit a few times by John Hughes. We're talking full pads, helmets, everything. You're getting hit.
We're not sure how many times. It just depends on how many you could take.
[01:40:34] Speaker B: What am I, a punching bag?
[01:40:36] Speaker A: Yes.
And then coming up for losing this season, whoever loses this season is going to have to get a Brazilian wax. Kenny, are you excited to get a Brazilian wax?
[01:40:50] Speaker B: I can't wait until you lose. It's going to be the greatest day of my life. I don't even care if I win. As long as you lose, you're going.
[01:40:56] Speaker A: To have to wait a long time. Basically, when you quit the show, that's when I lose. So let's get into things. First things first, I want to remind everybody that Bone is the reigning defending king of the north.
Second, John Hughes has joined king of the north this year. On top of hitting you, he's also going to watch you get a Brazilian.
[01:41:21] Speaker B: I don't know what's worse, me getting a Brazilian wax or John Hughes watching me get a Brazilian wax.
[01:41:26] Speaker A: Like we brought on former defensive tackle John Hughes to our show. Former Cleveland Browns defensive tackle. You. Did you think to yourself, this dude's going to watch me get a Brazilian wax?
[01:41:35] Speaker B: Not at the time, no.
[01:41:36] Speaker A: Well, now you're thinking about it. And then finally, Kenny, you're a clown. Let's remind everyone of our current records after week five. Bone, you're at 11 and 6. I'm at 10 and 7. John is at 8 and 9, and Kenny, you're at 6 and 11.
[01:41:48] Speaker B: Thank you.
[01:41:50] Speaker A: So for this week's games, first off, Ravens host the Rams.
Kenny, who do you got?
[01:41:58] Speaker B: Ravens who host the Rams.
The Rams are quietly a really good football team.
The offense is dastardly. Puka is the tops.
[01:42:10] Speaker A: What are you saying right now?
[01:42:14] Speaker B: Devonte Adams has been a nice addition. Solid running game, pretty stellar quarterback when healthy, and the Ravens are ass right now. Looks like Lamar misses another week. Cooper Rush was dreadful, and that defense is a sieve. I'll go Rams over Ravens.
[01:42:26] Speaker A: Thanks for giving us Kenny's cliff notes on this. I'm gonna go Rams. I'm gonna go Rams as well. For all of the reasons that you said and mainly because Lamar Jackson is probably not playing again.
[01:42:37] Speaker C: Fair.
[01:42:39] Speaker A: We'll remind everybody that John, we did his picks in his defensive correspondent segment, which he became just the correspondent of the. Of everything.
[01:42:47] Speaker B: He's. I don't even think.
[01:42:49] Speaker A: I don't think we really talked about defense. We just talked mostly offense.
[01:42:52] Speaker B: Well, it was all quarterbacks this week.
[01:42:54] Speaker A: But he picked the Ravens. Bone, who do you got?
And yes, he. That's not a typo. He picked the Ravens copy.
Bone, who you got?
[01:43:04] Speaker C: I'm not picking the Ravens. I'm going Rams. Their. Their offense is dope.
I got. And I got Puka on my fantasy team.
[01:43:09] Speaker A: He's just a. Dastardly.
[01:43:11] Speaker B: Is the tops.
[01:43:12] Speaker A: And Puka is the tops. You got mad at me for saying hundred. The other Puka is the tops.
[01:43:18] Speaker B: I don't even know if that's a thing the kids say. I just said it. Is that a thing?
[01:43:21] Speaker A: Puka is the tops.
[01:43:24] Speaker B: I thought I was making it up myself.
[01:43:25] Speaker A: That just sounds like Puka is the bee's knees.
[01:43:27] Speaker B: Might just be osmosis.
[01:43:29] Speaker A: All right, so Bones. Bones got the ram. So Everybody except John picks the Rams. Next up, we got Cincinnati traveling to Green Bay. Kenny, who you got? Wait, did you start last time?
[01:43:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:43:38] Speaker A: That means it's my turn. I'm gonna go with Green Bay in this one because Green Bay is a good football team and the Bengals are a bad football team.
That's my analysis.
[01:43:49] Speaker B: Expert analysis.
[01:43:51] Speaker A: Yeah, we'll. We'll remind everybody that John went with Green Bay as well. Bone, who you got?
[01:43:56] Speaker C: Green Bay. Cincinnati is not good.
[01:44:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:44:00] Speaker A: This is a fantastic show. Like, this is what you come to us for.
[01:44:04] Speaker B: Takes over and over and over.
[01:44:06] Speaker A: Kenny, who you got?
[01:44:08] Speaker B: Bengals are starting Joe Flacco, who I'm pretty sure still leads the league. You think those options.
[01:44:12] Speaker A: Are they starting him? You think?
[01:44:13] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, they've already said they have. Yeah, he's going to play this week. No way.
And the packers are really good. Bengals suck. Packers win.
[01:44:23] Speaker A: What if he comes out and throws like 350 yards this week and they just win?
[01:44:27] Speaker B: It could happen.
[01:44:29] Speaker A: Especially after he came out with the Browns and only threw for, like 130 yards on 56 attempts.
[01:44:35] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:44:36] Speaker A: Against Green Bay earlier this year. Anyways, pitch. Pittsburgh's not on by. Pittsburgh is playing the Browns.
The Browns will visit the Steelers this week.
And John went with the Browns in this one, 14 to 10.
Bone, who you got?
[01:44:55] Speaker C: I said earlier in the year, the Browns are going to sweep the Steelers.
[01:44:58] Speaker A: You sticking with it?
[01:44:59] Speaker C: And I am sticking with it.
[01:45:00] Speaker A: No, we're going to.
[01:45:01] Speaker C: We're beating the Steelers this week, 22 to 20.
[01:45:06] Speaker A: We're going to score more than 20 points. We're going to win a game.
Kenny Shook right now. He doesn't even know what to think.
Kenny, who you got?
[01:45:16] Speaker B: I mean, don't listen to me. I'm 6 and 11 this year.
The Browns are 1 and 4 and going nowhere fast. So as much as I'd like to see the Browns beat Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh, your coach is Stefan. Kevin Stefanski. And your quarterback is Dylan Gabriel. Yeah. Winning Browns lose 31, 13.
[01:45:30] Speaker E: Nice.
[01:45:34] Speaker A: Man.
[01:45:35] Speaker B: Expert analysis.
[01:45:37] Speaker A: You made a really compelling argument there. The whole Kevin Stansky thing. Once you said that, I really listen. This whole listening to all the statistics that I rattled off earlier, I'm like, dang, the Steelers really aren't good, even though they're four and one. But then you reminded me that Kevin Stefansky is our coach, Stefanic is our coach, and they've got Mike Tomlin, and it's at home for them.
[01:45:59] Speaker B: Just go, Browns. Just do it. I need to make up some Browns.
[01:46:02] Speaker C: Do it.
Do it.
[01:46:06] Speaker B: Just do it.
[01:46:08] Speaker A: What should I do, guys?
[01:46:09] Speaker B: Just do it. Everybody's picked the Browns besides me, so that means they're going to win.
[01:46:14] Speaker A: That's another trump card.
Oh, God. You guys are. You guys are really LeBron.
[01:46:20] Speaker C: I mean, they, it didn't look that bad last week.
[01:46:22] Speaker B: I'm glad you thought about this before the segment.
[01:46:24] Speaker A: I did, but I still couldn't figure it out. I actually just typed in Steelers, and now I'm going Browns.
[01:46:29] Speaker C: Hell yes.
[01:46:31] Speaker A: So I'm gonna go Cleveland Browns in this one. I, I, I'm gonna go 2017. 20 to 17.
And I think it's on the back of the defense again.
Aaron Rogers may be having a good year or at least a semi good year, but Miles Garrett gets to him three times in this one. Three.
[01:46:50] Speaker C: I love that.
[01:46:50] Speaker A: Three times in this one.
So Browns 2017.
You like that?
[01:46:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:46:57] Speaker C: Yes.
[01:46:57] Speaker A: All right. Now let me remind everybody to call the Burninger Sportscast hot take hotline. Hot take, no call. Leave your hot takes on the hot take hotline. Remember, these are hot takes. We want hot takes. We want hot takes. We want hot sticks. 3302-2780-8133-0227-808-1330-222780-81330, 2278-133202-27881 call now. We're not standing by. We'll put you on the air and probably make fun of you.
[01:47:20] Speaker B: Other than the Browns playoff game in Pittsburgh, do you know that the Browns have not won a regular season game in Pittsburgh since the year 2003? That's 20 straight years of losing in Pittsburgh. Wow.
[01:47:35] Speaker A: It ends tonight.
[01:47:38] Speaker C: It ends tonight.
[01:47:41] Speaker A: Just a little is happening here.
[01:47:43] Speaker B: I did not see that going that way.
[01:47:47] Speaker A: That's. That's the closing song tonight, boys. Be sure to check out our gear. Www.thetab media.com back shop. That'll do it for us. Kenny, what can we expect next week?
[01:47:56] Speaker B: Oh, that's me.
[01:47:58] Speaker A: That's you. You're the guy.
[01:47:59] Speaker B: I will tell you what you can expect next week.
Are you ready to hear it?
[01:48:06] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:48:08] Speaker B: We will be live on Sunday night. Look for us live on YouTube, Facebook and X as we record Cap. The week six matchup against the Steelers should be on right around 9:30. And next Thursday we'll be back with the week seven preview for the game against the Dolphins and another Brownsbackers interview. Tbd.
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[01:48:56] Speaker B: Pause for one second.
[01:48:58] Speaker A: That's not good.
[01:49:00] Speaker B: Oh it's fine.
Breaking News Browns trade quarterback Greg Newsom to Jacksonville Jaguars for cornerback Tyson Campbell.
[01:49:14] Speaker C: What a swap.
[01:49:18] Speaker A: That seems like an odd trade. Like it's.
[01:49:23] Speaker B: Any draft capital just breaking. So I don't it doesn't look like we have details yet. It looks like a straight switch swap.
[01:49:32] Speaker C: They must have really been tired of him dancing.
[01:49:35] Speaker A: It really annoys the out of me.
[01:49:37] Speaker B: Especially when we're losing Jaguars get Greg Newsome and the Jets 2026 six round pick from the Browns Browns get Tyson Campbell and the Eagles 2026 seventh round pick from the Jaguars.
[01:49:52] Speaker C: What is happening? Some type of like cap money thing or something?
[01:49:59] Speaker B: Not sure. Facts for days.
[01:50:01] Speaker A: Facts for days.
[01:50:17] Speaker B: Anyway, facts for days.
[01:50:19] Speaker A: What do you got today?
[01:50:21] Speaker B: New cornerback facts for days number 1432 Park Avenue is a residential skyscraper at 57th street in Park Avenue in Midtown Manhattan in New York City.
A part of Billionaires Row has some of the most expensive residences in the city, with the median unit selling for tens of millions of dollars. At the time of its completion in 2015, it was the third tallest building in the United States.
[01:50:48] Speaker C: However.
[01:50:49] Speaker B: However, this is where the facts come in. The trash chute runs the entire 1,396ft of the height of the building without any significant brakes, offsets or other features designed to slow the falling trash. With waste being dumped from higher floors, garbage often accelerates rapidly until reaching terminal velocity, leading to loud detonating thuds when the refuse slams into the concrete. Concrete floor below has led to several noise complaints and even a lawsuit alleging this and several other design flaws.
[01:51:23] Speaker A: That's so far.
[01:51:25] Speaker C: That is wild.
[01:51:27] Speaker A: How did they not see that that was a problem?
[01:51:31] Speaker C: I wonder how many floors it takes to reach terminal velocity.
[01:51:34] Speaker B: I don't know, but that's a lot of floors.
[01:51:35] Speaker A: So trash like I'm just imagining how loud that is if you're live the on the bottom floor said it sounds.
[01:51:43] Speaker B: Like a bomb going off, just dropping.
[01:51:44] Speaker C: Full cans of pot.
[01:51:45] Speaker A: Well, you should have. You should have spent tens of millions more to live on the top floor.
[01:51:48] Speaker B: In the penthouse, baby.
[01:51:49] Speaker A: Yeah, the penthouse, penthouse. Pissing on floors and floors.
[01:51:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:51:54] Speaker A: Number two.
[01:51:56] Speaker B: Crickets squeak my voice there. Crickets? What are you, 12?
Crickets are often called nature's thermometer. Did you know this?
[01:52:07] Speaker A: No.
[01:52:07] Speaker C: I think I've heard something like this.
[01:52:08] Speaker B: Because their rate of chirping.
Because their rate of chirp changes with ambient temperature.
[01:52:16] Speaker A: Oh, of course.
[01:52:16] Speaker B: A phenomenon described by Dolbear's law. The warmer it is, the more frequently crickets chirp and vice versa. You can estimate the air temperature in Fahrenheit by counting a cricket's chirps in 15 second spans and then adding 40 to that number. The law is more accurate for the snowy tree cricket, also known as the thermometer cricket.
And what's interesting is this equation actually holds up to temperatures that crickets can't survive at. So if you just do the math, you can see that, like a model of, like, a thousand degrees or 1800 degrees Fahrenheit, crickets would be chirping at 6970 chirps per minute, which is around 116 chirps per second.
But obviously, no cricket can survive at that temperature to chirp or even chirp that fast. But the math works out.
[01:53:06] Speaker A: My head's spinning a little bit from everything you just said. I don't really.
Okay, next.
[01:53:13] Speaker B: But did you know that you could tell the temperature from a cricket's chirp?
[01:53:16] Speaker A: I did not.
[01:53:17] Speaker C: That's neat.
[01:53:17] Speaker B: That's pretty neat.
[01:53:18] Speaker A: I didn't know.
[01:53:19] Speaker B: And number three, I'm not even real sure how this one fits into facts for days. It's fact or conspiracy theory. We're not really sure.
1995. A caller to Art Bell's syndicated radio show coast to coast amed named a man named Mike Markham.
Mad Mike claimed to have discovered a means of time travel using a Jacob's ladder. In attempting to build a larger version of this device, Marcum admitted that he had stolen several power transformers from the local power company, St. Joseph Light and Power in King City, Missouri. In using them to power his time machine, he caused a local blackout that brought attention to the authorities. Police records confirmed that he had been arrested for this theft and sentenced to 60 days in jail, plus a suspension. Suspended sentence. He called the radio show again in 1996, stating he was building a second time machine, this time from legally acquired parts, and was 30 days from completing the device. He claimed to have sent already around 200 items and small animals through this device and announced he was ready to go through it himself.
Marcum then disappeared in 1997, claimed that he had been transported two years into the future and 800 miles away, landing near Fairfield, Ohio, but suffered amnesia from the ordeal. While living in a homeless shelter, Marcum slowly remembered his name, Social Security number, and other memories that enabled him to reenter society.
There was no missing persons report ever filed.
And so the question remains. Time traveler or psychotropic, drug induced comma.
[01:55:00] Speaker C: I'm still stuck on the fact that he stole Transformers.
[01:55:04] Speaker B: Local power.
[01:55:05] Speaker A: Yeah, I find that amazing.
[01:55:07] Speaker C: Yeah, very heavy. He would have had to have a lot of specialized equipment.
[01:55:10] Speaker A: You, you probably don't understand. This like, Transformer is really big.
[01:55:13] Speaker B: I, I've seen a Transformer before. I. I'm not a lineman, but I've seen a Transformer.
[01:55:17] Speaker A: Like, do you know what Transformers we're talking about though?
[01:55:19] Speaker B: Like, like, I mean, it was obviously something he could steal and build a time machine with.
[01:55:24] Speaker A: Cuz I'm. Are you thinking they're like, maybe they're just pole type or you think they're.
[01:55:28] Speaker C: Like, well, maybe they weren't active. Maybe they're just in a yard somewhere. I don't know.
[01:55:32] Speaker A: I don't know, guys.
[01:55:34] Speaker B: The question is, did this man travel through time?
Not how did he steal the Transformers?
[01:55:38] Speaker C: I mean, I could buy that, but.
[01:55:41] Speaker B: Time traveler, I think he was crazy. That, my friends, is back for days.
[01:55:45] Speaker E: Crazy.
[01:55:48] Speaker A: We were split on that bone. Said he was crazy. I said he was a time traveler. I don't know.
[01:55:53] Speaker B: Some good ingenuity there.
[01:55:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
I can't believe he stole Transformers.
[01:55:57] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah, it's impressive. Very impressive.
[01:55:59] Speaker B: When I first read it, I thought.
[01:56:00] Speaker A: It was Transformers, like More Than Meets the Optimus Prime. Yeah, that's a good Optimus prime voice.
[01:56:08] Speaker B: It was pretty good, but I don't.
[01:56:09] Speaker A: Know why I said that with an accident. That's a good Optimus prime video. Oh, he's from London.
God save the queen.
[01:56:19] Speaker C: Too many, too many voices. I'm going to bed.
Bon appetit.
[01:56:27] Speaker B: Don't just be a part of the problem. Be the whole damn problem.
[01:56:29] Speaker A: And only you can prevent river fires.
[01:56:37] Speaker C: Burning river.
[01:56:40] Speaker A: When darkness turns to light it ends tonight it ends tonight Just a little lints. I don't know.
[01:56:52] Speaker C: I don't really know a lot of the words.
[01:56:54] Speaker B: I've never even heard this song before.
[01:56:55] Speaker C: It's kind of like punkish.
[01:56:57] Speaker A: Yeah, it was real big when we.
[01:56:58] Speaker B: Were in high school or something that's what she said.
Good night, Cleveland.
[01:57:05] Speaker C: Good night, actor.
[01:57:06] Speaker A: Quiet on set. I now have two loves in my life.
Big city living and a voodoo woman named Phyllis. I didn't think we'd be getting into Brad Pitt's ass.
[01:57:20] Speaker B: I can't even say I didn't think we'd be getting into Brad Pitt's ass.
[01:57:24] Speaker A: Yeah, didn't think we'd get in there.
[01:57:26] Speaker B: We talk a lot of analingus on this show.
[01:57:29] Speaker A: So put your right foot in and take your right foot out. Then put your right foot in and shut the hell up. Because it's not time for the hokey pokey. It's time for the Burning River Sports C. Motorboat.
[01:57:40] Speaker C: You play the motorboat.
[01:57:43] Speaker B: You motorboat. Son of a.
[01:57:44] Speaker A: You old seal.
[01:57:45] Speaker B: Are you. You know what I was thinking during that interview?
[01:57:47] Speaker A: What? What were you? Nothing. Cuz you don't have thoughts, Cuz you're a brainless idiot.
[01:57:52] Speaker B: Wow.
[01:57:53] Speaker A: My name is Utrit. Son of Utrit, by the way. I want my foreskin back. It doesn't matter what you think.
[01:57:59] Speaker B: Women's Guide to. To Anal Sex and it was the second edition. Who makes that second edition?
[01:58:05] Speaker C: The weather outside is weather.
[01:58:07] Speaker A: The other one. The finger. The finger. Eating food. Fingers. Oh my God. My ass is full of she.
Everywhere.
[01:58:16] Speaker C: Yes.
[01:58:16] Speaker B: Ejaculate all over my body and my genitals.
[01:58:18] Speaker C: Yes.
[01:58:19] Speaker A: Oh no.
We suck again.
[01:58:22] Speaker C: You don't need fundamentals when you got heart.
[01:58:25] Speaker B: And Jesus.
[01:58:26] Speaker A: And Jesus.
[01:58:27] Speaker C: That's right.
[01:58:27] Speaker A: Touchdown. Anyway, what do you mean funny?
[01:58:30] Speaker B: Funny how?
[01:58:30] Speaker A: How am I funny? It's going down. I'm yelling. Timber.
Should we start a meat podcast? Like. Like, like, like the meat pod Slow roasted.
[01:58:45] Speaker B: The leads are weak from.
[01:58:47] Speaker A: Leads are weak.
Leads are weak. You're weak.
[01:58:51] Speaker B: That we should send a team of oil core drillers a la Armageddon to Mars to have them access the newly discovered reservoirs of water traps 7 to 12 miles under the surface that when released, will cover the entirety of everything on the planet. Less than a mile high.
[01:59:00] Speaker A: All I do is win, win, win, no matter what. Erroneous. Erroneous on both counts.
[01:59:05] Speaker B: Oh, Lord.
[01:59:05] Speaker A: I mean, when I. Last year, when I won and went home, you know, my wife's pants hit the ground.
[01:59:10] Speaker B: Wow.
[01:59:10] Speaker A: But damn, I'm sorry.
[01:59:12] Speaker B: I hydrated your segment for a second to do some good podcasting.
[01:59:17] Speaker A: You know why, mister? Because you drove a Hyundai to get here tonight, I drove an $80,000 BMW. That's my name. I think we've officially lost all of our more conservative viewers, so I don't think they want to listen any longer.
[01:59:32] Speaker C: It's Mother Nature.
[01:59:33] Speaker A: I live my life a quarter mile at a time.
[01:59:36] Speaker B: Where's logo girl when you need her?
[01:59:37] Speaker A: I desperately, desperately want to make love to this cheese.
[01:59:39] Speaker B: We need cheese girl. Now who's canceled now? Who's canceled now?
[01:59:48] Speaker A: Probably me.
[01:59:48] Speaker B: You making it for the fat people.
[01:59:51] Speaker A: I'm not just you.
[01:59:53] Speaker B: We're a whole race, basically.
[01:59:56] Speaker A: No way. You're just straight. Just finger bang their salad.
[02:00:02] Speaker C: You first get shocked and. And then you get the shocker.
[02:00:07] Speaker B: You like to see almost naked. That's cool, man.
[02:00:09] Speaker C: Whatever. No, no, no, no, no.
[02:00:11] Speaker A: Most people like, they're driving along and they're like in between meals, like, I'm a little hungry. I'm going to have a granola bar. And he's like, I need a cheeseburger.
Are you not entertained?
Are you not entertained?
[02:00:25] Speaker B: Is this not why you?
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