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It's time.
[00:01:12] Speaker B: Time for the Burning river sportscast. At 1 and 3. The time has come. No more delusions, no more dreams. This team is headed nowhere. While Joe Flacco will always have his place in Brown's lure, the time to make the change is now. Joe is the established veteran and on paper gives this team the best chance to win. But that's not what this year is about, is it? This is a reloading year. We've seen promising performances from the other rookies and now at the most important position in all of sports, it's time to make the final transition to put the old dog out to pasture. His decision making is poor, his accuracy is mid and the offense is stagnant. Dylan nor Shador offer the promise of improvement, but at the very least they offer the chance for it, which at this point is unfortunately beyond Joe Cool's capacity. We won't do it though, and we'll tell you why when we break it all down for you next on the Burning River Sportscast.
You came to the wrong place. If you want to feel something besides.
[00:02:08] Speaker C: Pain, I'm the bartender and people didn't drink because the Browns did so bad.
[00:02:13] Speaker A: What an idiot.
[00:02:14] Speaker B: Did you drop a pee bomb on?
[00:02:16] Speaker A: Yeah, I did. Oh, wow. Oh, fish and chips.
[00:02:18] Speaker B: Oh, give me something fish.
[00:02:20] Speaker A: Oh, you're from London. You talk like this.
[00:02:22] Speaker B: Oh, God save the queen.
[00:02:25] Speaker A: Might touch tips. Who knows?
Kevin Stefanik has no stones.
[00:02:29] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, Ballist Kevin. That's what they call him.
[00:02:32] Speaker A: Come through and suck me. Sorry, baby. That's true. Just how I roll.
[00:02:36] Speaker C: We have a tradition in Cleveland. It goes. Here we go, Brownies. Here we go. And they were all like, yeah, no.
[00:02:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:02:45] Speaker D: I'm just excited for Charlie. You know he's still in the NFL. I didn't even know.
[00:02:48] Speaker A: Hey, this is time for Kenny's Cliff notes. Let's shut up. Let's shut up now.
[00:02:51] Speaker B: Been chewed bone. Because the Browns passing attack has been non existent and is struggling more than red hot. Ronnie Jam's Hairline. I mean, honestly, fighting for its life at this point.
[00:02:59] Speaker E: But I've been wearing Cleveland Browns gears for about 25 years, not even knowing what the team was, just because my name's Paul Brown. My favorite taco place in Cleveland is in Lakewood. There's a supermarket and they got some dodgy tacos.
[00:03:14] Speaker A: What does that mean?
[00:03:16] Speaker E: Sorry.
[00:03:25] Speaker B: Welcome in to the Burning River Sportscast, presented by the fine folks at Tappin Media. I'm Kenny Thunder. My partner today is a dusty old.
He's red hot Rowdy Jams not on the board today. He's more cunning than a lingus. He's the big bone man.
Bone what has one eye but can't see?
[00:03:43] Speaker D: The monocle man from Monopoly.
[00:03:45] Speaker A: Monopoly?
[00:03:46] Speaker B: What the hell is Monopoly?
[00:03:48] Speaker D: Monopoly.
[00:03:51] Speaker A: Maybe.
[00:03:52] Speaker D: I can't say it.
[00:03:55] Speaker B: We're off to a fast start, boys. It's a needle. Duh. Back to red hot.
[00:04:00] Speaker A: What an idiot.
[00:04:02] Speaker B: Where can our listeners find the dopest dope they ever heard on a podcast? Number one football podcast and all good pods. As well as the unofficial podcast of Cleveland Browns backers everywhere.
[00:04:11] Speaker A: Official podcast of some Cleveland Browns backers somewhere. I can't believe you just went with. You just. I'm not even going to repeat it. You just called it. You just said that's what you went with.
[00:04:21] Speaker D: Getting censored.
[00:04:22] Speaker A: That's the only time I've ever been called that on the show. I hope it doesn't happen again tonight.
I'm shocked.
[00:04:29] Speaker B: Are you gobsmacked?
[00:04:30] Speaker A: A little bit.
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Hot takes from the Hot Take hotline. Of course, Browns news so far this week. More messages from Macho Fan and Brownster Knot the Div Roundup and King of the north with John Hughes. An interview with another Brownsbackers Chapter this week, the British Bulldogs, Browns backers, BBBB Alliteration aside, that's.
And of course, the week five preview for the game against the Vikings in London.
But we're here, we're there, we're every where The Cleveland Browns. The Cleveland Browns. We're here, we're there, we're every where. The Cleveland Browns.
[00:05:37] Speaker B: The Cleveland Browns.
[00:05:39] Speaker A: Let's get things started with the burning story of the week.
[00:05:54] Speaker B: I was not ready for that.
[00:05:55] Speaker A: You weren't? Were you scared? You look scared.
[00:05:57] Speaker B: I. I was frightened.
[00:05:59] Speaker A: Well, listen, the burning of renew story of the week this week is the Cleveland Guardians once again.
Yeah, I like to have Bone excited. I've got a hat on today. Bone's got a shirt on.
Not any old shirt, just he's got a Tribe shirt.
[00:06:14] Speaker B: Sometimes he just doesn't wear a shirt into the recording studio.
[00:06:17] Speaker A: That came out wrong. But anyways, doesn't wear a shirt. We already talked about him last week because they were attempting to make the biggest comeback in MLB history. But we're talking about him this week because the mission, the regular season mission has been completed. And they won a division. So they were 15 and a half games back and they came all the way back and won the division.
[00:06:35] Speaker D: They did it.
[00:06:35] Speaker A: They did it.
[00:06:36] Speaker B: By the time this airs, they could be out of the playoffs.
[00:06:39] Speaker A: They won't be out by Thursday. It's Tuesday.
Isn't it? Tuesday? Thursday would be the games or Tuesday? Wednesday. I don't know.
[00:06:45] Speaker D: Playoff. Rokio's here. We're not losing a game.
[00:06:48] Speaker A: He's here.
[00:06:49] Speaker B: He's here.
He's everywhere.
[00:06:51] Speaker A: I think he's Rokio.
[00:06:53] Speaker D: He didn't have a. He didn't have an RBI for like 15 games and he got four yesterday.
[00:06:57] Speaker A: He was like, playoffs are here.
[00:06:59] Speaker D: Yeah, playoffs are starting.
[00:07:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:07:01] Speaker B: He hit the dinger at the end, didn't he?
[00:07:02] Speaker A: Yeah, the walk off. Yeah.
[00:07:04] Speaker D: I love sack fly earlier.
[00:07:06] Speaker A: I love the Mario sound effect that they play every time a run crosses plate and it's like, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
[00:07:12] Speaker B: Power up.
[00:07:13] Speaker A: Yeah.
I just wanted to talk about the Guardians, though, because the Browns make me really sad and the Guardians make me really happy. So I wanted to be happy. I wanted to feel something besides pain.
[00:07:23] Speaker D: That was a good start to the.
[00:07:24] Speaker A: Show, you know, I mean, you came.
[00:07:26] Speaker B: To the wrong place if you want to feel something besides pain.
[00:07:28] Speaker A: I know it's kind of. I'm taking my upper before my downers.
[00:07:31] Speaker B: We bring. We bring the pain.
[00:07:33] Speaker A: Yeah. Just like I had my coffee before we got started. I'm Having my upper before my downers. Where. And here we go.
[00:07:39] Speaker D: Drink coffee and talk about the track.
[00:07:41] Speaker B: Is that one? I thought it was a two. Look at me.
[00:07:42] Speaker A: Yeah, you're an idiot. Oops.
One more thing. Before we get to the Browns, let me remind everybody to call the burning sportscast hot take hotline.
Don't forget to call and leave your hot takes on the hot take hotline. Remember, these are hot takes. We want hot takes. We got a few hot takes.
[00:07:55] Speaker B: We got some hot takes.
[00:07:56] Speaker A: What's this? The hot takes.
[00:07:58] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:07:59] Speaker A: Yeah, this is Nate Edwards from Gilbert, Arizona. My hot take is. Yeah, I believe Jim Schwartz should be the Browns head coach considering he has a stellar head coaching record of 29 and 52. Exactly what the Cleveland Brown need right now, a 29 and 52 head coach. Great take, Ronnie. I would love to see it happen.
Go. Lions.
[00:08:26] Speaker D: Got roasted.
[00:08:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. So I actually know Nate pretty well. Nate is one of our good friends, like you said out there in Arizona. Listen, this comes from a place of hatred with Nate because he's also from Michigan, so I'm sure he's a Detroit fan. He holds a lot of ill will towards Jim Schwartz because Jim, that record that he just gave was all with the Lions.
So he didn't do them any favors. And let's be real here, this is when the Lions. Nobody could fix the Lions.
So you talk about the Browns being bad. They were just as bad.
[00:08:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
Look, I like there's a lot of coach retreads in the NFL also.
[00:09:05] Speaker A: That was 10 years ago.
[00:09:06] Speaker B: Defined success with another team.
I'll point to one in Cleveland Browns history. How about Bill Belichick was 36 and 44 as a Cleveland Browns head coach and now is in the pantheon is the greatest head coach of all time. Was seven Super Bowls fair?
[00:09:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:09:21] Speaker D: Pretty good comeback.
[00:09:21] Speaker A: He just needed the right situation.
[00:09:22] Speaker B: Or was it six? Six or seven?
[00:09:25] Speaker A: Nate, I will give you the. The Browns probably isn't the right situation for anybody.
So you got me there. But I stand by it. I don't care. I'll double down. I would much rather have Jim Schwartz as our head coach, a guy that holds his players accountable than Kevin Stefanik. And yes, Bone, you weren't on the live show last night, but we are back to calling him Stefanik. If you refer to him as anything else, I'll punch you square in the face. All right.
[00:09:47] Speaker B: In the. Jimmy?
[00:09:48] Speaker D: Yeah, I'm in.
[00:09:49] Speaker A: So, Nate.
Yeah. I know you thought that was going to land better, but I don't think it did.
[00:09:58] Speaker B: I Mean, what is Kevin Stefanski's record? 42 and 50.
[00:10:02] Speaker A: Yeah. At the end of this year when. When they win three to five games like we've predicted. Yeah, he's going to be about. He's going to be approximately 12 to 14 games under.500 over six years. So, yeah, five, six years, whatever it is. So.
[00:10:15] Speaker B: Not to mention, we know the only games he did win was because he had Baker and Chub.
[00:10:19] Speaker A: So again, I stand by it. Jim Schwartz over Kevin Stefanic.
[00:10:22] Speaker B: Poor take, Nate. Poor take.
[00:10:25] Speaker A: My guy's got my back.
What's next?
[00:10:29] Speaker B: But thanks for calling the hot take hotline.
[00:10:30] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, call again. Call again. We want to hear your hot takes.
[00:10:34] Speaker B: Don't let's discourage you.
Hey, Bobby died.
[00:10:39] Speaker A: Tim, got your favorite.
Kayla's here. Our bartender. Our bartender.
[00:10:46] Speaker C: C.
[00:10:48] Speaker A: Okay, guys.
[00:10:51] Speaker B: I don't know what to say.
[00:10:52] Speaker A: I mean, too many mistakes. Too many mistakes. That's it. I don't know what to say anymore. I think this is. Tim. I can get Joe Flack on his team. Ben soon. Some Gabriel season.
That's my opinion. Joe Flacco's too old.
I think there were a bunch of penalties on.
On the Lions that should have been called that weren't, especially in that one interception. And I think Flacco needs to.
[00:11:18] Speaker E: Flacco needs to sit.
[00:11:19] Speaker A: Kerry, anything. So, Terry, Terry, Colin. Nothing. I have nothing intelligent to add.
It's usually. Usually that's my mo. I'm the bartender.
[00:11:33] Speaker C: And people didn't drink because the Browns did so bad.
[00:11:36] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. AKA Kevin left and he didn't drink at all. So roast him for that.
[00:11:42] Speaker C: And.
[00:11:43] Speaker A: And Kayla's gonna roast him right now.
[00:11:45] Speaker C: He's a loser and he has a tummy ache.
[00:11:47] Speaker A: So what? The Browns ran out of steam in the first half of the first quarter.
Alrighty. This is the Brown Doctors North Jersey starting out timeout.
I predict the Browns are going to win the next four games.
[00:12:01] Speaker B: How about that for a hot take?
[00:12:05] Speaker A: Jesus Christ. All right, bye.
Wow.
First of all, I love it every week. Love it when North Jersey brings the goods. I like that they call in as a group. They're just like, everybody, let's get together, give our hot takes. Now put it on speakerphone.
First of all, we're going to end this with Bobby D's hot take at the end there. That was actually a hot take.
[00:12:26] Speaker B: So there's always a lot to unpack.
[00:12:28] Speaker A: But first of all, the first thing I noticed throughout this whole thing, I love when they start getting worked up a little bit and the Jersey accent really starts Coming out. Like it's just, it just builds and it's. You can really tell like, oh, these guys are. They're from Jersey. Yeah.
And then. Yeah, I mean, I think North Jersey is starting to figure out that they're kind of like the Burning river sportscast. They got the same takes over and over and over again. Because you can't say anything else right now because nobody with the Cleveland Browns will fucking listen.
[00:12:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know about the Joe Flacco being too old. Like that feels ageist to me. I'm more on the, on the bandwagon of he's just not good anymore because he's too old.
But way to be. You're woke my snowflake take. Yeah, yeah, he's just not good anymore, which is the problem because he's old.
I also, you know, feel bad for the bartenders all around the country that had too depressed to drink.
[00:13:29] Speaker A: That was the other thing is, is Kevin. First of all, that was where I wanted to go with this. Kevin, quit being a little bitch and stay at the bar and drink. For the bartender. She. They prepare that bar. They, they prepare the, the Black. Was it the Black Rabbit Saloon? I think. I'm sorry if I got that wrong.
[00:13:48] Speaker B: I thought that was the local one. I don't remember now.
[00:13:50] Speaker A: But anyways, they, they prepare the bar for all you Brownsbackers every week. And you just go in there and you get pissy because the Browns suck and you go home. Kind of Browns fan, are you? Kevin, you're coming to Cleveland. You're moving to Cleveland at some point and you're. You're telling me that this is how you act?
[00:14:05] Speaker B: I will say, grow up.
[00:14:06] Speaker A: Grow up, Peter Pan.
[00:14:07] Speaker B: I will say, Kevin, if you are going to storm out of a place and drive home, very responsible of you not to drink. So fair.
[00:14:14] Speaker A: Fair.
Next time, drink a lot more and call an Uber.
Yeah.
[00:14:21] Speaker B: Kevin single handedly keeping bartenders and Ubers in business.
[00:14:25] Speaker A: And then finally, Bobby D. First of all, I thought he was gonna stay quiet this whole time. He's like, I don't want Ronnie to talk shit about me anymore. And then at the very end, he comes in with the heat saying the Browns are gonna win the next four games.
[00:14:39] Speaker B: Is there, is there a buy in there?
[00:14:41] Speaker A: There's gotta be. Yeah. So first of all, you're insane, Bobby D.
Absolutely not. They won't. And second, I mean they might have a chance at one or two in there, but that's only if they go to the rookies.
[00:14:53] Speaker B: I would say as much as I would love to jump on that bandwagon. My question is with, like, how. With what offense? Like, so you have to score points.
[00:15:02] Speaker A: In order to win. You would legitimately.
[00:15:05] Speaker D: Vikings, Steelers, Dolphins, Patriots.
[00:15:08] Speaker B: I mean, this softens up. That's true.
[00:15:11] Speaker A: It is doable.
[00:15:12] Speaker D: Jets. That would be the fifth game. The jets would be the fifth game.
[00:15:14] Speaker B: Bobby, why didn't you say five?
Well, they are in North Jersey, so I guess jets are probably.
[00:15:24] Speaker A: Excuse my language. That was a little far, even for me. But Bobby D, did you drop a P bomb on. Yeah.
[00:15:30] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:15:31] Speaker A: That was weak, Bobby.
[00:15:32] Speaker D: He's not gonna like that.
[00:15:34] Speaker A: The next time we see Bobby D, it's just gonna be fight on site. He's gonna be like, we're throwing down right now.
[00:15:39] Speaker B: Here's the deal. Bobby D is the kind of guy that could kick your ass.
[00:15:42] Speaker A: Oh, I don't doubt it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he's got that old man strength.
[00:15:46] Speaker B: Well, I was gonna go with. I think he has probably like five to said.
[00:15:50] Speaker A: I wasn't. I wasn't going to roast Bobby D. And then you guys brought me into it and got me worked up. Here we go.
[00:15:57] Speaker B: Bobby D roasted himself. Yeah, he said the Browns are going to win four games.
[00:16:00] Speaker A: What an idiot.
What an idiot.
[00:16:04] Speaker B: That reminds us.
[00:16:05] Speaker D: Call into the husband.
[00:16:07] Speaker A: Don't keep them coming. Don't.
[00:16:08] Speaker B: Don't let that discourage you, Bobby.
[00:16:09] Speaker A: Yeah. We love hearing from you, but as you again, a theme. We've got each other's backs anymore. Is that. Is that the hot takes?
[00:16:19] Speaker B: That's what we got this week.
[00:16:20] Speaker A: Fair. Okay. Yeah.
[00:16:22] Speaker B: Call now so we can roast you on Cliff.
[00:16:24] Speaker A: Cliff, where the hell were you? Yeah, Cliff, bad job out of you.
[00:16:27] Speaker B: You were wearing Cliff's shirt and everything.
[00:16:29] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm supporting the Mile High Brownsbackers. Come on, Cliff, you get a failing grade for the week.
[00:16:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Where's our other Browns backers at? Come on. I mean, let's see. Bowling Green. Where you at? Where you been? Give us.
[00:16:41] Speaker A: Well, they just. They just started as the official, so.
[00:16:43] Speaker B: That'S okay that we've been. We've been friends for a long. They should be calling all the.
[00:16:47] Speaker A: All the Browns back. We're up to like. Like 60 something that we've interviewed.
[00:16:50] Speaker B: So what happened to Paul from last two weeks ago?
[00:16:54] Speaker A: I don't know. I'm gonna get on these guys. I didn't send out all my reminder texts this week, so maybe it's my fault.
[00:16:59] Speaker B: Come on.
[00:17:00] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know.
[00:17:00] Speaker B: Act like you've run a podcast before.
[00:17:02] Speaker A: I don't, but make sure you call us and leave your hot takes. Don't let us discourage you. Call and leave your hot takes on the hot take hotline. Remember, these are hot takes. We want hot takes. We want hot takes. We want hot takes.
3302278, 0813302278, 081330227808, 13302278, 08133302278, not standing by, but we'll put you on the air, make fun of you.
[00:17:24] Speaker B: I like how this used to be a place to call and drop hot takes. Now it's just a place to call, get made fun of. That's probably why I know our calls.
[00:17:31] Speaker A: Should we do better?
[00:17:32] Speaker B: We should be nicer to people when they call.
[00:17:34] Speaker A: I don't think so.
[00:17:35] Speaker B: When they frequent the hot take hotline.
[00:17:37] Speaker A: I don't think so.
[00:17:38] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:17:39] Speaker A: Speaking of hot takes, it's time for dig it with the MA International game. Oh, yeah.
[00:17:50] Speaker B: Gonna bring the dog pound across the pond.
[00:17:53] Speaker A: The whole world is gonna be watching. That's right. Oh, Vikings.
[00:17:57] Speaker B: You really want us to bring a fight?
[00:17:59] Speaker A: Well, don't worry.
[00:18:00] Speaker B: We'll bring a bite to the fight, and the whole world's gonna see it.
[00:18:04] Speaker A: So everyone.
[00:18:05] Speaker B: Everyone that's gonna be there is gonna be flying around in the orange and brown.
[00:18:11] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Let's go, brim.
Oh, yeah.
You think British people even know who the macho fan or, like, macho man is?
[00:18:27] Speaker B: They're gonna know.
It's true.
[00:18:29] Speaker A: He's gonna be there.
[00:18:30] Speaker B: They're gonna be like, oh, look, it's a macho fan. One of TM Biscuits.
[00:18:33] Speaker A: He's gonna go out for bangers and mash.
[00:18:35] Speaker B: Bangers and mash with the macho fan.
[00:18:36] Speaker A: Oh. Oh. Fish and chips.
[00:18:38] Speaker B: Oh, give me something. Fish and chip.
[00:18:39] Speaker A: Oh, you're from London. You talk like this.
[00:18:42] Speaker B: Oh, God save the queen.
[00:18:45] Speaker A: We're sorry. To all of our British followers.
[00:18:48] Speaker B: All of our British followers.
[00:18:51] Speaker A: I don't know.
Here's the deal, though, Followers. Here's the deal, though. After watching macho Fan do these week in and week out, all I can say is the Browns have the best fans.
Like this. This.
It's just great. Every single week that he drops one.
[00:19:05] Speaker B: Of these macho fans. Probably en route to London right now. That's a big of a fan. He is.
[00:19:09] Speaker A: He's a dog.
[00:19:11] Speaker B: Dog.
[00:19:11] Speaker A: Speaking of dogs, it's time for the Burning River Sportscast Dog of the week.
[00:19:20] Speaker B: You gotta play tough people in the National Football League. You gotta be ready and we gotta be the dogs that we are every.
[00:19:27] Speaker E: Time we step on there on Sunday.
[00:19:28] Speaker B: And be ready to attack and don't.
[00:19:31] Speaker E: Stop until we're in that locker room.
[00:19:39] Speaker A: All right. We leave it up to our listeners and followers to determine the Burning River Sportscast Dog of the Week. Each week on our live shows on Sunday night, we each nominate a dog of the week candidate. From there, we turn it over to all of our socials to. For. For the followers to vote and make the final decision. This week's nominees.
[00:19:54] Speaker B: Kenny George Steinbrenner.
[00:19:56] Speaker A: No, it wasn't. Who was it?
[00:19:58] Speaker B: Quinn shot Jenkins.
[00:19:59] Speaker A: Sorry, Bone.
Isaiah Bond and I went with Denzel Ward.
And after the fan vote that was conducted on our socials today, this week's Burning River Sportscast Dog of the week is Quinn Shawn Judkins.
Quinjo Judkins had 21 carries for 82 yards and a touchdown for. He added four catches for 33 yards. A very good game from him, especially when there's no offense. I was shocked. I will say. Before we talk more about Quinshon. Denzel Ward didn't get a single vote, and he almost scored points for us.
[00:20:32] Speaker B: He almost had our only other points, but, yeah, he didn't.
[00:20:34] Speaker A: Well, it's true he didn't. So I guess that's why I didn't get any votes.
But, yeah, another solid game out of Quinn Sean Judkins. And I'll say this, especially given the turn that Nick Chubb has taken. I hate to say that, but the. The fact that, I mean, he's really good. Who's the guy starting over him now?
[00:20:50] Speaker B: Woody Marks.
[00:20:51] Speaker A: Yeah. And somebody you've never heard of. I guarantee it. Yeah.
[00:20:55] Speaker B: Unless you're deep in fantasy circles.
[00:20:57] Speaker A: Yeah. And so I'll take you deep with circles that I don't want to go there, but. Yeah, with the turn that Nick Chubb has taken, you know, Quinn Shawn Judkins, that pickup is looking better and better, considering.
I don't want to know what you're going to say right now.
[00:21:14] Speaker B: I'll take you to the chocolate factory.
[00:21:17] Speaker A: We're bringing this back.
This is going to be a running thing the whole season. Nobody knows what it means. But you're taking everyone to the chocolate factory anyways. Quinn Sean Judkins was the dog of the week, I guess. I don't know.
[00:21:28] Speaker B: I mean, he. He's been the only bright spot on offense. I mean, Isaiah Bond was fine, but I laughed.
[00:21:34] Speaker A: I laughed when. Sorry, Bone, but I laughed on air when you sent that in last week.
[00:21:37] Speaker D: Did he have like one long catch.
[00:21:39] Speaker A: He had three catches for 56 yards. I was like, dang, it's really out there. Lighting it up today.
[00:21:44] Speaker D: I was gonna say Judgins, but I figured one of you guys already said.
[00:21:46] Speaker B: Tyreek, you'll go down.
[00:21:48] Speaker D: Yeah, I think he broke his leg or something.
[00:21:49] Speaker B: That ain't good.
[00:21:50] Speaker A: Good.
[00:21:50] Speaker B: Feels bad for Tyreek.
[00:21:51] Speaker A: Was he in an air cast?
[00:21:52] Speaker D: Maybe he did and he's smiling.
[00:21:53] Speaker B: They're walking him off the field. And that cart's bad. Walking them off the cart.
[00:21:57] Speaker A: They're definitely done anyways, Quinton Judkins was the dog of the week. Kenny, let's give something away. Let's do it. Hold it up. Grab it.
So in case you have not heard, we're doing our second giveaway of the season right now.
[00:22:12] Speaker B: Bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird.
Have you heard?
[00:22:19] Speaker A: Bird is the word. I said a bird. Bird, bird, bird, bird, bird.
[00:22:23] Speaker B: I said bird.
[00:22:24] Speaker A: I don't know why we're singing this. We're talking about a Miles Garrett giveaway here.
[00:22:26] Speaker B: Because you keep asking me, have you heard?
[00:22:29] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I know why we're singing it, but we should stop singing it this time.
[00:22:32] Speaker B: Why would you say you know if you just said, I don't know why?
[00:22:35] Speaker A: I do know this time. In partnership with Primetime sports and framing, we're giving away an autographed Miles Garrett game day poster with locations in Hartville, Streetsboro, Belden Village, Great Northern and Kent. Primetime sports and framing is easily accessible wherever you are in northeast Ohio.
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[00:23:00] Speaker B: You name it, they frame it.
[00:23:02] Speaker A: Yes. And the winner will be chosen from following the entry directions on our social media posts. You can also earn 50 bonus entries by subscribing to our YouTube channel at Burning River Sportscast. And if you don't have a YouTube account, make one. Because it takes about five minutes, you get all those bonus entries. The entry period ends 10:26 Sunday. 10:26. Around 11:59 I think is what I have a set for. Seems odd, but it's like an hour before the game is basically what it where it ends. Smart. And then the winner will be announced that evening on our live show. So 1026 is when you have until to enter and then we'll announce the winner.
[00:23:42] Speaker B: That day I almost knocked over the whole studio.
[00:23:44] Speaker A: Trust don't do that. But enter now and good luck.
But with that, let's. Let's dig into some other Browns news.
[00:23:51] Speaker B: Other Browns news.
[00:24:00] Speaker A: In other Browns news this week, I had a couple kind of like housekeeping things from the game this past week. I know that this isn't the recap, but I just wanted to throw them in here because they had to be said.
Number one here, Aiden Hutchinson was matched up with Brown's right tackle, Cornelius Lucas 17 times in this game and they were all one on one matchups.
Hutchinson in those matchups had two sacks, one strip sack and five pressures when facing Lucas. Kevin Stefanski after the game was asked about it and he said, well, he's a very good player. Obviously we had a plan, but we need to do better.
[00:24:33] Speaker B: What the fuck was your plan to do better?
[00:24:38] Speaker A: You matched him up one on one with. With Cornelius Lucas 17 times. That was your plan?
That was your plan?
[00:24:46] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a good plan.
[00:24:48] Speaker D: He's supposed to block them.
[00:24:49] Speaker A: This is why I had to bring this up. You guys don't seem as upset as me. I think you guys are just reserved to. This is. This is what we do.
[00:24:55] Speaker D: They want to lose.
[00:24:56] Speaker B: This is not what we do.
[00:24:57] Speaker A: It is what we do.
[00:25:00] Speaker B: Name me one other thing the Browns have done this year that makes sense.
[00:25:03] Speaker A: I don't know.
[00:25:03] Speaker B: And then ask yourself why you're surprised.
[00:25:05] Speaker A: I don't know. This is just. This is. People question us all the time for saying, you know, he wants to fan it gone. But like, this is the. I'm talking about, like, are you kidding me? You had a plan. Your plan was to match him up with Cornelius Lucas 17 times, one on one. You're the worst coach of all time.
[00:25:22] Speaker B: This is the same team that drafted two quarterbacks in this year's draft class.
[00:25:27] Speaker A: Yeah.
Fuck.
Anyways, next up here, Kevin Stefanik earlier this week came out and said Cedric Tillman and DeAndre Carter both suffered multiple week injuries and they will be out for week five.
Subsequently, DeAndre Carter was also put on IR on Monday, so getting thin at.
[00:25:49] Speaker B: That wide receiver spot.
[00:25:50] Speaker A: I think we legitimately have what, three.
[00:25:52] Speaker B: Left reactive wide receivers currently. I mean, unless they.
[00:25:55] Speaker A: Luke Florio, they signed to the practice squad earlier this year. Is he back yet?
[00:25:58] Speaker B: Unless they do something.
[00:25:59] Speaker A: He was hurt, so I don't know if he's back.
[00:26:01] Speaker B: No, he's not on the active roster right now. I mean, it is literally Jerry Judy, Jamari Thrash and Isaiah Bond. Because Cedric Tillman is out, we are.
[00:26:09] Speaker A: Incapable of running a four wide receiver set.
[00:26:11] Speaker B: David Bell is out, DeAndre Carter's on IR and Cade McDonald's on IR. What happened to Gage Laverian had a Nice camp, practice squad.
[00:26:18] Speaker A: He'll probably be elevated this week.
He'll probably get elevated.
[00:26:21] Speaker B: Probably gonna have to do something. Cause I don't think you can come into the game with just three healthy wide receivers. Not good.
[00:26:25] Speaker A: Harold Fannin Jr. Is a wide receiver now.
[00:26:29] Speaker B: Well, he's got to catch the ball then.
[00:26:30] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:26:31] Speaker B: Can't drop it like he did last week.
[00:26:34] Speaker A: Did you have something?
[00:26:35] Speaker D: No.
[00:26:35] Speaker A: Oh, I thought.
[00:26:36] Speaker D: Yeah. I think you should catch the ball though.
[00:26:38] Speaker A: Fair.
Another area where we are thin offensive line. The Browns traded for Houston's Cam Robinson early this week.
[00:26:46] Speaker B: Those guys aren't Thomas. Then came Robinson's £335.
[00:26:50] Speaker A: No, they're. Never mind.
But Cam Robinson was a second round pick of the Jaguars in 2017. He comes into the Browns as an instant starter. Y and the Browns, basically what they did is they swapped their 2027 six round pick for Cam Robinson and Houston's 2027 seventh round pick. So they basically gave him nothing.
[00:27:11] Speaker B: Yeah, that's important because we need an offensive lineman.
[00:27:14] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:15] Speaker B: We can't go into the game with four.
[00:27:17] Speaker A: Yeah. And then probably the. The biggest news this week so far is in his press conference on Monday, Stefanik refused to outright name a starter.
He kind of hinted that it was going to be Joe Flacco, but he would not actually say it. Weeks leading up to this, he came out and he would be like, Joe Flacco is our guy. He gives us the best chance to win. You guys have all heard it.
And that's who they rolled with this week. When asked about it, I don't have the quote in front of me, but it was basically like, we don't need to talk about that. Well, you know, know, we'll. We'll kind of look at things and we'll figure out who it's going to be.
[00:27:51] Speaker B: Immediately after the game, he basically said like there was multiple problems on offense and we had to do better across.
[00:27:57] Speaker A: The board and that it wasn't all Geo Flacco boilerplate.
[00:28:01] Speaker D: There was no injury on Flacco or anything, right?
[00:28:03] Speaker A: Nope, nope, nope.
[00:28:04] Speaker B: No, just the fact that he's 42 years old.
[00:28:08] Speaker A: That's ages. Kenny. That is so ageist.
[00:28:11] Speaker D: He's gonna need two weeks to recover.
[00:28:12] Speaker A: Cover.
[00:28:14] Speaker B: Here's the thing. I mean, look, I think this is important because we should talk about the quarterbacks here.
It's the one, the one storyline that's worth talking about here in Cleveland because we have two guys that we would love to see play and love to see if they're any good. Because we could be staring down the Lenora Sellers train here in the spring of next year. So I think as much as, like, I talked about in the open, like, Joe Flacco is done. He's washed, he's got to go. This team needs a change at quarterback. There's no chance they'll make it for this week because I think they've been so conservative in how they want to actually let these guys play. This week is kind of a short week from a practice standpoint because they had to travel to London. So there's no way Kevin Stefanski is going to make that change this week with and put a rookie quarterback out there just because of the distractions, the time change, and everything else the team's dealing with. So while it's the right move, I just. I don't see a world in which that's a possibility.
[00:29:19] Speaker A: You know what else that you missed?
Kevin Stefanik has no stones.
[00:29:24] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Balless Kevin. That's what they call him.
[00:29:27] Speaker A: He's balless.
Completely balless.
[00:29:30] Speaker B: Yeah. Like a cat that's been spayed and neutered. Both. Both of those things.
[00:29:36] Speaker A: Both done. Yeah. Wow.
Both. Both. Wow. No stones.
[00:29:39] Speaker B: No stones.
No reproductive organ.
[00:29:45] Speaker A: Here's the deal. Like, I'm even fine with. Just go straight to Shador Sanders if. If. If the argument's going to be that, well, they're not ready. Okay, we'll throw Shador Sanders to the wolves because if he can't figure it out, then you guys get what you want. You say he's not the guy. We got to get rid of him.
[00:29:57] Speaker B: Well, it's like we just. Like we've been talking about, like, that we're not. He's not ready.
Rings hollow. Because clearly neither is Joe Flacco.
This offense is not ready to do anything. This offense has been anemic. It's terrible.
[00:30:10] Speaker A: I actually want to hear Bones take on this last in. In the live show on Sunday. Yeah.
Basically what I said was, the question that I posed was the argument is they're not ready or you don't want to throw them to the wolves behind a bad offensive line. Wide receivers that can't catch.
[00:30:27] Speaker B: You don't want to damage them.
[00:30:28] Speaker A: You don't want to damage them.
A couple points that I made. Wide receivers and offensive line aren't getting any better.
So if you're waiting for that, you're not going to see any. Either of the rookies.
[00:30:37] Speaker D: What's going to be different in two games?
[00:30:39] Speaker A: Exactly. And the other part of it was, what does this do for Those quarterbacks confidence level when their, their head coach is looking at them every week and saying, I don't think you can score 10 points.
Sure, I'm going to sit you on the bench because I don't think you can score 10 points.
[00:30:55] Speaker D: They're NFL football players. Like, you're going to like, protect them. Like you're, they're your children.
[00:30:59] Speaker B: These are grown men.
[00:31:00] Speaker D: What is going on?
[00:31:01] Speaker A: Right.
[00:31:02] Speaker D: Like, just play them.
[00:31:03] Speaker A: They, they're in the league. They made it to the big time.
[00:31:05] Speaker D: Like, you named them. Your, your second string starter. You traded Kenny Pickett.
[00:31:09] Speaker A: Like, and the, the, the whole kind of saying that gets thrown around a lot for all backups is we prepare like we're a starter. Okay, well, apparently not ours because our.
[00:31:22] Speaker B: Backups, they ain't ready. The only backups in the league that.
[00:31:25] Speaker D: Aren'T ready, Joe Flacco could literally, his arm could fall off at any point and our guys are not ready to back him up.
[00:31:31] Speaker A: Yeah, we're the only team whose backups don't prepare starters.
[00:31:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Frankly, I'm terrified.
[00:31:36] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:31:37] Speaker B: If that's the case, I mean, here's the thing. If Dylan Gabriel is who they keep telling us he is, which is he's.
[00:31:45] Speaker A: Going to process that information so fast.
[00:31:47] Speaker B: He's, he's processes information quickly. He's great on the whiteboard. He's so much more mature than Shador. Like, if he's all these things, why is he not ready to play?
[00:31:55] Speaker D: He's going to rise to the occasion.
[00:31:57] Speaker B: How can he not think?
[00:31:58] Speaker A: How can he think? I don't know.
We're just a bunch of idiot podcasters.
[00:32:03] Speaker B: It's just so frustrating because this team is playing for nothing. Like, at least get a gauge on what you have at the position.
[00:32:11] Speaker A: And while we're on the subject, I just want to once again say, welcome, fans, welcome, welcome media, Browns media, to the shit show that we've, we've been witnessing for. I don't know how long. How long have we been saying Kevin Stefanik hasn't shown you anything. Andrew Barry hasn't shown you anything. This team hasn't shown you anything thing like, what are we doing here?
[00:32:30] Speaker B: People love Stefanic, man.
[00:32:33] Speaker A: I'm glad it's, I'm glad the, the shine is finally starting to wear off. You can't, you can't shine up a turd and tell me it's gold.
[00:32:41] Speaker B: I think it's because he's just so handsome.
[00:32:43] Speaker A: He's just, he's got a great beard, so we got to keep him on the sidelines got a great beard, he's well built.
[00:32:49] Speaker B: It's a nice looking man.
[00:32:50] Speaker A: You are sexually attracted Kevin Stefanik.
[00:32:55] Speaker B: Somebody is. Because they keep letting them coach.
[00:32:57] Speaker A: That's true.
Ms. Haslam, you heard it here first. Bone with the hot take. Breaking news with that, guys. Let's get into the division roundup.
All right, guys, Cincinnati plays tonight. We're recording on Monday night. Cincinnati plays tonight so that that game will be added to next week's games. We all picked the Broncos, though, so it shouldn't change much.
Baltimore got handled by Kansas City, 37 to 20.
Lamar Jackson got hurt in that. More. More on that soon.
I was right. Kenny, you were wrong. Bone, you're right. And John was wrong. Big John was wrong.
So thank you.
Good start so far, Kenny. Appreciate it. Next up, Pittsburgh beat Minnesota and Ireland, and I was really reluctant to pick him, but I ended up going with Pittsburgh, and I'm glad I did because I was right. Bone was right. Kenny, you were wrong. Big John was right. So over two so far for you.
[00:34:05] Speaker B: Thank you.
[00:34:06] Speaker A: You're welcome.
And then finally, the Cleveland Browns. The Browns is the Browns. They lost the Lions in typical Browns fashion, 34 to 10. No fight whatsoever.
I was right. Bone was right, and Kenny and Big John were wrong. So you're over three.
[00:34:24] Speaker B: Thank you.
[00:34:25] Speaker A: Yeah, you're welcome. You're gonna get Cincinnati, right? At least you know they're winning right now. Yeah. So Denver is for the AFC north this season. Standings are as follows. Pittsburgh still on top at 3 and 1. Cincinnati at 2 and 1 pending what happens tonight.
Regardless, they'll stay in that. That spot in the standings because even if they go to 2 and 2, Baltimore is 1 and 3 and Cleveland is 1 and 3.
And current king of the north standings, which we'll get back to in a little bit. Bone on top by himself at 8 and 5.
I'm one game behind you at 7 and 6. John Hughes, big John Hughes at 6 and 7. And Kenny starting to put some distance between us at 4 and 9, so feels bad.
[00:35:11] Speaker B: Thank you.
[00:35:11] Speaker A: I'm just letting it simmer. Let's take a quick trip around the NFL.
[00:35:15] Speaker D: Really, really letting it simmer.
[00:35:20] Speaker A: This is Kenny's least favorite part about the podcast. He's like, I just get punished all the time.
All right, so we actually have a lot of stories here. I'm going to add one because it just happens. Happened. I'll start with that one, actually. Tyreek Hill, some sort of gruesome lower limb injury. I'm not exactly sure what happened. Bone, you saw it better than I did from your vantage point.
[00:35:45] Speaker D: So, yeah, he's carted off the field and it looked like his leg kind of buckled under him.
[00:35:49] Speaker A: So we talking like broken leg, like, like completely blown out knee type thing?
[00:35:53] Speaker D: Something like that?
[00:35:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:35:54] Speaker D: But I don't know if it was. I don't know if it was his ankle or his knee, but it looked like his ankle was out in the air. Casters on his knee.
[00:35:59] Speaker A: The aircast. Yeah, it looked like it was. The brace was all around his knee.
[00:36:02] Speaker B: So the hits just keep coming for the Miami Dolphins. Who.
[00:36:05] Speaker A: And that. That'll be the.
Of Tyreek Hill in Miami, we all think. Right.
[00:36:09] Speaker B: So probably cost a lot of money for a receiver with a bum leg.
[00:36:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
Also receiver getting hurt this week. Malik Neighbors is done for the year with a torn acl. Kenny, how's that feel for your fantasy team?
[00:36:20] Speaker B: He wasn't on mine, but as many guys keep getting hurt, yeah, you would think they were mine.
But it does feel bad for Malik Neighbors because, you know, one of the promising young wide receivers in the league. That's been a lot of fun to watch. Honestly, I was just thinking the same thing.
[00:36:35] Speaker D: He was fun.
[00:36:35] Speaker A: The only highlight. It is crazy the parallels between him and like young Odell. Yeah. You know, obviously when Odell Beckham came to Cleveland, like, we're all not fans of him because he was ass here, but he, his stardom burned bright, like early. Like he just. He came out and was on fire the first few. Few years out of. Out of college.
[00:36:53] Speaker B: And then Beckham's dad literally got Baker fired.
[00:36:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
But yeah, I mean, hopefully, hopefully Malik Neighbors comes back strong and healthy and is able to get back to what he was doing because I don't want to. Another Odell story where he just falls off after that.
Next up here, Lamar Jackson. I mentioned just a minute ago, but he pulled a hammy torpedo. My fantasy season, he pulled a hammy in the game against Kansas City. And it's weird because you got a lot of people and this is probably just social media warriors, but everybody's saying that he faked the injury because he was just sick of this game.
[00:37:26] Speaker B: I don't know that the insinuation is totally that he faked it. I think it's that he tweaked it and probably could have kept playing if the game were closer, but I don't know, chose to come out of the game.
[00:37:36] Speaker A: All I know is I saw him kind of walking across the field to give like the handshakes after the game and he was limping pretty good. So, yeah, as I'm saying, I think.
[00:37:45] Speaker B: He legitimately hurt himself, but it's. It. Was it an injury that he could have played through? I guess is the question. And. And Harbaugh has been pretty dismissive around the whole conversation, so I don't know that we'll ever know for sure, but.
But certainly makes for interesting tv.
[00:38:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
Next up, Brock Purdy had a setback, and his status for this week is up in the air.
[00:38:07] Speaker B: They 49ers not having a good time out?
[00:38:09] Speaker A: No, they're having a bad time. They just lost to Jacksonville, so.
[00:38:12] Speaker B: And they ass.
[00:38:13] Speaker A: They ass.
Phone's been quiet over there. I was just seeing if he was still.
[00:38:18] Speaker B: We haven't queued him to talk yet.
[00:38:19] Speaker D: You want me to say they asked, too?
[00:38:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
We had some wild jerseys this week in the NFL. We'll start with the Cardinals. Looked like tortillas.
[00:38:29] Speaker B: They sure do, because that's not.
[00:38:32] Speaker D: It was supposed to be the desert sand blowing in the wind.
[00:38:34] Speaker A: Looks like a tortilla.
[00:38:36] Speaker D: I think that's what the commentary.
[00:38:37] Speaker B: Turns out it was something like that.
[00:38:38] Speaker A: It's just a tortilla. If you just zoom in really far on a tortilla, that's what it looks like.
[00:38:43] Speaker B: That's the jersey making a quesadilla later.
[00:38:45] Speaker A: They thought nobody would catch that, but they did. And then Miami's jerseys look like throwback Cavs jerseys. Yeah, we're watching those right now. That's pretty dope.
[00:38:52] Speaker B: Pretty dope. I like the matte black helmet.
[00:38:55] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:55] Speaker D: Yeah, they cool.
[00:38:58] Speaker A: Next up here, Ashton Genty returned to the, quote, Halloween or Michael Myers stance this week.
There was a big deal about this in the preseason because Pete Carroll was like, you're not going to do that here.
[00:39:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:39:10] Speaker A: And then for whatever reason. Yeah. I don't know why, but he started doing it this week. And he proceeded to rush for 21 carries, 138 yards and a touchdown and two receptions for 17 yards and two touchdowns. They still lost. Lost, but.
Well, he did really well.
[00:39:24] Speaker B: Geno Smith threw for, like, 117 yards and three picks.
[00:39:27] Speaker A: So that'll do it to you.
[00:39:29] Speaker B: That'll do it to you.
[00:39:31] Speaker A: Yeah. So keep letting him do his Michael Myers stance. Plus, it's dope. He's the only one that does it. He's just, like, stands out there.
[00:39:36] Speaker B: I just don't know what the.
Like, I get, like, being in a ready position and being able to explode off the line and that. But, like, if you have a player that has an idiosyncrasy like that.
[00:39:48] Speaker A: That.
[00:39:49] Speaker B: That's.
[00:39:49] Speaker A: It just gets him in the right space.
[00:39:51] Speaker B: Their game.
[00:39:51] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:39:52] Speaker B: Why would you try and change it?
[00:39:53] Speaker D: That's exactly what I was just thinking. You literally drafted him for how he played in college, that you want to change how he plays when he gets in the NFL.
[00:39:59] Speaker B: Yeah, you're just putting him in an uncomfortable position to start.
[00:40:03] Speaker A: Why?
[00:40:03] Speaker B: Why?
[00:40:04] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't. I don't know. It seems crazy to me, but, yeah, I mean, played well this week. Hopefully it continues to play well. We talked about next up here. We talked about the 49ers being asked. Well, Cam Ward actually said that his team was asked this week. He said, I quote, we asked.
[00:40:23] Speaker D: That's the best quote ever.
[00:40:26] Speaker A: So, you know, he had to let him know that we asked.
[00:40:30] Speaker B: He did let him know.
[00:40:31] Speaker A: So I wish one of the Browns players would finally come out and be like, we ass.
Because we are ass.
[00:40:39] Speaker B: I don't know that you're gonna get there.
[00:40:40] Speaker A: No, probably not.
Next up, Giants co owner John Mara revealed this week that he's being treated for cancer. He said he's still feeling strong and optimistic and as of now, he'll continue to remain involved with the team for as long as possible. So when you. When you start getting those caveats at the end, as long as possible, that tells me that it's probably an advanced stage cancer, which is not good. So, you know, well wishes to John Mara and the Mara family.
Hopefully he's able to beat this and continue to be around for quite some time.
And then not NFL News, but Drew.
[00:41:18] Speaker B: Soon to be NFL.
[00:41:19] Speaker A: Yeah, Drew Aller.
Not only did he lose the big game again this week, one of the.
[00:41:24] Speaker B: Guys that's been talked about in the conversation for Brown's potential quarterback, all the.
[00:41:28] Speaker A: People here love him because he's from Medina. I mean, sorry to any of our Medina locals that are out there listening, but I'm just not a huge Drew Aller fan.
[00:41:38] Speaker B: Being from Medina doesn't make you a good quarterback.
[00:41:40] Speaker A: Correct.
[00:41:40] Speaker B: So would it be a great story if he were?
[00:41:42] Speaker A: Absolutely, yeah.
[00:41:43] Speaker B: Great hometown kid. But if you're not that good, I don't care.
[00:41:46] Speaker A: Right. And if he does get drafted by the Browns, I hope he turns out to be amazing. But that's. I'm not even talking about football right.
[00:41:51] Speaker B: Now, so I feel like what you're about to share will get him drafted by the Browns.
[00:41:56] Speaker A: Hell, yes. That's why I'm sharing it.
[00:41:58] Speaker D: Yeah, that's a good point.
[00:41:58] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, I know it's going to endear him to you. Too, Kenny. So with the degenerate that you are. Anyways, after he proceeded to lose the big game to Oregon, again, the white out game, it was big deal. All the. They lost a girl. I don't know who a girl, but outed him for his Snapchat conversation he had with her. I'm. I'm going to read this line for line here. So here we go. So Drew Aller.
It doesn't show what was said before this, so I have no idea. Drew Allar said to her, yeah, next time she responds, what are you doing tomorrow night? Night, Drew Allar. Practice till five, then I'm free. Come through and suck me.
And she says, whoa, okay. You take things fast. And he said, sorry, baby, that's just how I roll. Show me what I'm working with.
And she said, what do you want to see? The roommate just left. So you know.
And he says, spread your cheeks and bend over.
Her response, the fuck would I even take? How the fuck would I even take that picture?
His response, use the timer on your camera. So a couple things here.
One, pretty, pretty freaky text messages from Snapchat. Messages from a seemingly unfamiliar girl that, that Drew Allers. Texting now a couple. I. I mean, I guess. Is this okay, Kenny? I don't know. You're the degenerate in this show. So tell me where we're at here.
[00:43:26] Speaker B: Well, I think first off, it's not illegal.
[00:43:29] Speaker A: No, no, no, no. He didn't do anything wrong.
[00:43:31] Speaker B: It's a good head start when you're thinking about the brown spot.
[00:43:33] Speaker A: I mean, he did do something wrong. He was pretty dis.
[00:43:36] Speaker B: Well, I. Okay, I didn't say that. I said it was. It wasn't illegal.
[00:43:39] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:43:40] Speaker B: Is it not the gentlemanly way to talk to a lady? Yeah, probably on that chart. It's probably off the charts.
[00:43:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
This is not a good way to court somebody.
[00:43:49] Speaker B: Not a good courtship. No, but very modern.
[00:43:54] Speaker A: He's just trying to be open. Open with his sexual expectations.
[00:43:59] Speaker B: Points for transparency. A lot of girls are like, oh, I want a guy that'll tell me the truth. Oh, I want a guy that'll be honest with me. Well, here it is.
[00:44:05] Speaker D: I will say I had a friend about 20 years ago in middle school that kind of went with this technique with any random girl he met. And surprisingly, it worked for him. Often he's just very blunt.
[00:44:16] Speaker A: Or his. You guys probably know his initial cr. Yes. I knew it. I knew it. Yeah, I knew it.
This is exactly how he talks, actually. But no, just like CR Drew Aller.
[00:44:29] Speaker B: Is a potential NFL fan.
[00:44:30] Speaker A: Yeah, it just. That was. That's where I was going. Just a bad look to start things out as far as, one, you lose your first big game, where everybody's asking the question, can you win a big game? The answer is no.
And then this comes out the very next day. So impeccable timing by this lady, dropping this, dropping these.
[00:44:47] Speaker B: And it wasn't even screenshots, just the big game. Right. This was a year that a lot of people had picked Penn State not just to win the big game, but to win all the games. They were talking about them.
[00:44:57] Speaker A: They were ranked number two, I think, at the time. Right.
[00:44:59] Speaker B: Weren't they number two going into that game? Number three, championship.
[00:45:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
Oh, my gosh.
But I know this, like I said, this endears them to you because this is the stuff that you appreciate. So you're probably like, draft him number one.
[00:45:10] Speaker B: Well, here's what I can appreciate is you always want to draft a guy that has all the answers and he saw a problem and he fixed it, and he came up with an immediate, very sensible solution to that problem.
[00:45:23] Speaker A: Yeah. Based on this. Convert the screenshot of the conversation. There's no time between these. He just. Yeah, right back at her.
[00:45:29] Speaker B: Spread your cheeks and bend over. How would I take that picture? Set a timer. Duh.
I mean, problem solution, problem solved.
[00:45:37] Speaker A: Yeah. Fair. Yeah.
Do I. Like you said, is this the gentlemanly way to say things? No.
[00:45:44] Speaker B: Can't condone that.
[00:45:45] Speaker A: No. Problem solved.
[00:45:46] Speaker B: But did solve the problem. And next time you're thinking about taking a picture of your bum hole now.
[00:45:52] Speaker A: You know how so. Yeah. That's the Drew Aller story. So before we get in any more trouble, before we get any more trouble, Kenny, it's time for another interview in our Browns backers interview series.
[00:46:03] Speaker B: We're gonna have to clean it up a little bit, I think.
[00:46:07] Speaker A: What do you mean?
[00:46:08] Speaker B: Just our show. I got really natty nasty there.
[00:46:10] Speaker A: Oh, it was bad. Yeah.
[00:46:13] Speaker D: That's just verbatim. Just reading.
[00:46:15] Speaker A: I just read most of it. We said he was not gentlemanly.
[00:46:19] Speaker B: Time for a Brown backers interview.
[00:46:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:46:25] Speaker B: How much money do you make a year before taxes? Yeah, I'm actually not comfortable answering that.
[00:46:31] Speaker A: Come on.
[00:46:32] Speaker B: We're doing the interview now, not you.
[00:46:35] Speaker A: All right, so for this Brownsbackers interview, please help me welcome, hailing from the Hippodrome casino in Leicester Square in London, the president of the British Bulldogs, Brownsbackers, Kelly. Kelly.
Kelly. Thank you so much for joining us. How are you today?
[00:46:52] Speaker C: I'm really good, thank you. It is Browns Week in London. And we have got so much planned. I'm very excited. I can't wait.
[00:46:59] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, everybody we've talked to that's. That's even loosely involved with this thing is like, this is going to be a packed week over in London, so.
[00:47:06] Speaker B: It'Ll be an event.
[00:47:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
So tell us. Yeah, I mean, I know that you guys are going to be involved with some of those events. Tell us about your chapter and also kind of the things that you guys have planned for this week.
[00:47:20] Speaker C: So our chapter started in 2001 by a group of people who are Brown Spanish, who'd gotten interested in the Browns in, like, the 1980s. They decided to form a Brownsbackers chapter. I joined it a few years later when I moved over to the uk, and we've just grown and grown with the advent of social media and streaming services, and it's just grown and grown and grown. This is the second time the Browns are playing over here in the uk. So we played them. We had them over here in 2017.
It's been eight years now. It's been a long time coming. And so we're have just put everything on for this. We've got a pub quiz, we've got a whiskey tasting, we've got a charity event, we've got Parkrun, we've got welcome party, we've got tailgates. I mean, it's gone a little bit mental. I'm questioning my life choices, if I'm completely honest.
[00:48:11] Speaker A: So you're telling us we should have been there?
[00:48:14] Speaker C: Yeah, you should be here. There's still time.
[00:48:17] Speaker A: Yeah. We both have young children. It's just.
[00:48:20] Speaker B: It's hard to get out.
[00:48:21] Speaker A: We probably could make it happen. Our wives might not let us live to make it over there, so wouldn't.
[00:48:28] Speaker B: Be real happy with us.
[00:48:28] Speaker C: Well, you have to bring them with you, then. It's a family. Family event.
[00:48:32] Speaker A: True, true.
[00:48:34] Speaker B: Next time.
[00:48:34] Speaker A: I don't. I don't know if.
[00:48:35] Speaker B: Well, next time when the kids are older.
[00:48:37] Speaker A: When they're older. Yeah.
What is that? Eight years apart? So another eight years. Yeah, we're coming. I promise we'll be there.
But no, listen, I know that the Browns backers all over the world, they're doing charity work and I'm sure that's no different overseas with you guys. What kind of charity work or what kind of community service are you guys involved with?
[00:48:56] Speaker C: So every year we do a swear jar. Because our chapter is international, it's really hard to do local events where we actually do something together. So we do a swear jar every year. Whether the Browns make us say hell yeah or hell no, you know, we ask people to drop a few pennies into the swear jar every week. We raise charity, raise money for charity for different charity every year. We pick one charity each year.
We've done everything from a cancer research charity, we've done the Kidney foundation, we've raised money for Dogs for Autism, who provide dogs for children with autism as support dogs.
We've done a charity called Evans Bears which provides teddy bears to sick children at Ronald McDonald House. And this year we're doing a charity called Safa, who they look after veterans and their families here in the uk.
But this year, because of the event that we're doing here, we're actually able to put together an actual event that we're going to build Christmas boxes for kids who are attached to the SAFA charity. So we're doing that on Saturday, this weekend and it's really exciting. We're building 270 boxes and there's so much stuff. It's all in my living room right now. It's like insane how much stuff, how many boxes I've got right now. But we're really looking forward to it.
[00:50:15] Speaker A: Oh, hell yeah. Is that what you said? That that's probably the. The least that the Browns make you say. Let's be honest, I didn't know how.
[00:50:23] Speaker C: Family friendly I needed to be today.
[00:50:25] Speaker B: We let it loose here.
[00:50:26] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yes.
Now it's a party.
[00:50:33] Speaker B: Just joined the party.
[00:50:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
So I was gonna say, you guys, you seem very reserved for being over in London, but, you know, you know, there, nobody wants to swear unless we.
[00:50:45] Speaker C: Give them the green light. This side and I've got the party side.
[00:50:47] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:50:48] Speaker B: I love it.
[00:50:48] Speaker A: Well, make sure you put an extra dollar in the swear jar when you get back.
[00:50:53] Speaker C: That's a pound over here.
[00:50:55] Speaker B: A pound pound.
[00:50:56] Speaker A: Yeah. I forgot.
[00:50:56] Speaker B: Ten quid.
[00:50:57] Speaker A: Ten quid? What's it. What? We won't go. I don't. I don't know.
[00:51:00] Speaker B: So, not to put my. My ignorance on full display here, but I noticed you said Christmas is.
[00:51:05] Speaker A: Is there.
[00:51:06] Speaker B: Is Christmas a thing there or. I always thought it was. Was Boxing Day.
[00:51:11] Speaker C: We have both. So Christmas is the same as Christmas for the States. It's Christmas Day, 25th December, then Boxing Day is the day after. Just like Canada. It's like a second holiday.
People kind of over here treat Boxing Day a lot more casually, where it's kind of like the more relaxed day, you know, you do like your big Christmas meal on Christmas Day. And then Boxing Day is like, all the leftovers. There's a lot of sport on unboxing day. It's a big, big day for sport.
And then. Yeah, people just basically drink for about a week straight, so.
[00:51:44] Speaker A: Nice.
[00:51:45] Speaker B: Interesting.
[00:51:47] Speaker A: Speaking of drinking for a week straight, why did. Why. Why do you say you're going to hospital and not going to the hospital?
[00:51:54] Speaker C: I don't know. Because. And I just used another one, which is sport instead of sports.
[00:51:59] Speaker A: Yeah, I noticed that. That's what made me think of it. I was like, wait, there's a couple of these different.
They're pretty close to the same, but not quite.
Yeah.
[00:52:06] Speaker C: And then they say, like, the subject in school is maths, not math.
[00:52:11] Speaker A: Got to do my maths.
Yeah.
[00:52:13] Speaker C: My math so much.
[00:52:14] Speaker A: That was my terrible British accent, by the way. Yeah, that's good. Yours is. Yours is not quite British.
What would you call that?
[00:52:22] Speaker B: What's going on there?
[00:52:24] Speaker C: I've been over here for 22 years, and when you're here that long, you kind of start to assimilate, and it's not so much the individual words, it's more the inflections of how I say things. Things is a bit more British. But then I was in Cleveland at the beginning of August for Brown's training camp, and I took with me one of the English guys who is part of our club. He's one of our committee members. And loads of the Americans kept saying, God, you even sound British. And he was like, no, she doesn't. So it's like, the Americans think I sound British. The British think I sound American. I'm just, like, hovering over the Atlantic somewhere with my accent. That, to me sounds really weird.
So I.
I don't know how to change it. It's what it is, what it is.
[00:53:06] Speaker A: That's too. We think it's great. Yeah.
[00:53:08] Speaker B: Kelly, how does one end up there? I mean, where did you grow up? Here in the Cleveland area, rooting for the Browns? Or. What's your. What's your story?
[00:53:14] Speaker C: How does one end up there? I like that.
The royal one.
[00:53:18] Speaker A: I'm trying.
[00:53:18] Speaker B: I'm trying to do some.
[00:53:19] Speaker A: It sounded. I'm reading. Listen, nerd comment here, but I'm reading Lord of the Rings over again right now. And that's a very Tolkien.
That's, like how he says everything thing.
[00:53:29] Speaker B: So no one cares about you. Ronnie, I'm talking to Kelly.
[00:53:31] Speaker A: I know. I'm sorry. I ruined the interview.
[00:53:34] Speaker C: Start over.
[00:53:37] Speaker A: So, for me.
[00:53:40] Speaker C: I'm quite lucky because my dad was born over here. So I've got dual citizenship. I didn't even find out that I had dual citizenship until I was about 23, I think I was.
And so I applied for my passport, just thinking, if I ever want it, I'll have it. I had family who lived here who said, if you want to come over here and. And live with us while you get on your feet or just do like six months here, you can.
The week that my passport came in the mail, my job in Ohio announced they were doing redundancies.
And so they said, we'll pay you, like a redundancy package if you want to go. And I was like, wait, I was thinking about going, and now you want to pay me to go? And my hand couldn't go fast enough.
So within three months, I think of getting my passport. I was on an airplane over here with no job, you know, bit of family.
[00:54:27] Speaker A: And.
[00:54:28] Speaker C: Yeah, it's been 22 years now, so.
[00:54:30] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:54:31] Speaker C: Yeah. Kind of stuck.
[00:54:32] Speaker A: Good thing your arms didn't get tired.
[00:54:37] Speaker C: That reminds me of typically when somebody says to me, so what brought you to England? And if they ask me in that way, what brought you to England? My really quick fire, sassy responses. An airplane.
[00:54:47] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:54:48] Speaker B: Otherwise you'd still be over the mid Atlantic, right?
[00:54:51] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:54:53] Speaker C: That's where I picked up the accent.
[00:54:56] Speaker A: Oh, man. Listen, real quick. I do have some questions about Sunday's game.
First of all, who's going to win this Sunday?
[00:55:05] Speaker C: The Browns are definitely going to win. I know that's like default president answer, but the Vikings didn't look good last week. The Browns, I think as long as they can catch some passes, I think we've got a good chance of it.
I. I'm eternal optimist, the Browns.
[00:55:21] Speaker A: Well, God love you, because on the show here, we are not eternal optimists. Seems like every time somebody picks the Browns, they get burned. Kenny just picked the Browns this past week, so ask him how that went.
[00:55:31] Speaker B: Feels bad.
[00:55:31] Speaker A: Yeah, but no, we have. We.
Wow. Yeah, we do.
[00:55:36] Speaker B: We had momentum, Kelly.
[00:55:39] Speaker C: I mean, after the first touchdown. Yeah, so did I.
[00:55:44] Speaker B: All went downhill from there.
[00:55:45] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. But with the Browns winning, what do you think the actual score is going to be to the game?
[00:55:50] Speaker C: I don't think it's going to be a high score. I'm going to say 17, 13.
[00:55:55] Speaker A: Oh, man.
Another one of these.
I probably agree with you, Kelly. It's not if I'm just so sick of his seeing the Brown score less than 20.
[00:56:05] Speaker B: Allergic to points.
[00:56:06] Speaker A: Yeah, we don't like it.
No, but so what? I guess to Close. Before we close this thing out, what's some things that you want the Americans over here to know kind of about. About what you guys are doing as Brownsbackers?
[00:56:23] Speaker C: I think one thing that, like, Americans probably don't realize about the British Browns fans is how much they know about the Browns and the history.
I think, you know, we get people who join our Facebook group and, you know, they come in as an American saying, oh, I'm a Browns fan over here, and you know, I thought I'd join your group and tell you about some of our traditions. And people are like, yeah, we know. Like, we had a guy who came to watch. He was on business or a vacation. And like, so I was. I missed this game. I was on vacation. But somebody told me that this guy, he like, stood up after like the first touchdown. He's like, guys, we have a tradition in Cleveland. It goes. Here we go, Brownies. Here we go. And they were like, yeah, no shit.
I think people don't realize, like, the Internet is a thing and we learn stuff really easily.
So that's. That's what I want people to know about our culture club.
[00:57:15] Speaker A: That's fair. Actually, you know, when I was. When I was just reading over some. Some just common misconceptions from Americans, one of the things that kept coming up is that apparently Americans think British people don't know how to use a computer. Like, exactly what you're saying. Like, like, like they don't know. They have nowhere to get information from. Like, you guys just had. Don't know the things we know.
[00:57:38] Speaker B: And they're the dark age.
[00:57:39] Speaker A: So it's funny that that was the. That was the number one thing because I did read that. I was like, like, don't we all have the Internet?
Yeah, and I will.
[00:57:47] Speaker C: We just got color TV about three years ago, but the Internet we've had for at least five years now.
[00:57:53] Speaker A: Well, yeah, it's. It's a game changer.
[00:57:56] Speaker B: I love unfiltered Kelly. This might be my favorite interview ever had a drink?
[00:58:02] Speaker A: And Kelly, I. I will say your guys social media presence is phenomenal.
You know, we. We follow everybody that we interview you. I'll be joining your guys's. Well, me, Kenny, and our sound man Bone will all be joining your. Your Brownsbackers chapter at some point in the near future. I'm a little behind on those, but we'll get to it.
And yeah, your social media presence is awesome. I know there's a lot of clubs out there that, that don't do as well on social media. As you guys do. And they're really missing out on a huge tool to just kind of bring exposure to their clubs. So kudos to you guys for using it the right way.
[00:58:41] Speaker C: Yeah, thank you very much. I mean, some of the credit goes to our committee member, Dan. He runs our Twitter account or X account, so he helps out a lot with a lot of that. So sometimes he'll write a post, he'll share it with me, and I'll share it to Instagram or vice versa.
And then all of our committee guys look after our Facebook page as well. So we've got a really good Facebook group, people.
You know, it doesn't get toxic in there, and when it does, we kind of have a word with people and it calms down. So it's a really nice, Nice group to run.
[00:59:09] Speaker A: Yeah, it's always good to keep it.
[00:59:10] Speaker B: Civil, which is hard with the Browns sometimes.
[00:59:13] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah.
Kenny, you got anything else?
[00:59:17] Speaker B: I just love. Love the accent, love unfiltered Kelly, and love to have you back sometime.
[00:59:24] Speaker A: Yeah, definitely.
[00:59:25] Speaker C: And happy to come back.
[00:59:26] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. And if we are ever out that way across the pond, we'll definitely be stopping in and looking you guys up.
Hopefully catching a Browns game with the British Bulldogs, Brownsbackers.
[00:59:38] Speaker C: I mean, hopefully it's not going to be eight years again. We were meant to come over in 2020, but we all know how that ended. So hopefully it'll just be another couple of years and then we'll do it again.
[00:59:47] Speaker B: No more global pandemics, Kelly.
[00:59:50] Speaker A: Yeah, we don't want any more of this.
[00:59:51] Speaker C: Yeah, sorry. Sorry about that pandemic.
[00:59:55] Speaker A: Well, listen, Kelly, we appreciate it so much. Thank you for joining us. Thank you.
[00:59:59] Speaker C: Thank you for having me.
This is Kelly from the British Bulldogs, Browns Backers, and you're listening to the Burning River Sportscast. Go Browns.
[01:00:14] Speaker A: Man, good time talking to Kelly from the British Bulldogs, Browns Backers, huh?
[01:00:17] Speaker B: Kelly was fun.
[01:00:18] Speaker A: She was fun. I just like, as soon as she realized that it. There's no sense, there's no rules on a podcast, she was like, oh, it. Hell, yeah.
[01:00:25] Speaker B: Our podcast on ours.
[01:00:27] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:00:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Anything goes.
[01:00:29] Speaker B: We let it. We let it all hang out here.
[01:00:31] Speaker A: Right before that, we talked about Drew Allar and his. All his stuff. So anyways, we go deep into the nasty here. Yeah. Hey, what's that?
I think. I think we got an incoming message. I think it's time for mission Control with Brownster KN.
10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0.
Ignition.
[01:01:02] Speaker E: Liftoff.
[01:01:04] Speaker A: Liftoff.
[01:01:10] Speaker B: Mission control, this is Brown Chinook calling In on the burning river sportscast.
[01:01:13] Speaker A: Do you guys copy?
[01:01:14] Speaker B: Roger that. The dog ship is crossing galaxies and oceans this Sunday in the London. The Browns invade Vikings territory.
[01:01:21] Speaker A: Skull won't echo in space, but the.
[01:01:23] Speaker B: Sounds of barking and cleaving victory will.
[01:01:25] Speaker A: Time to go 2 and 3.
Brownstronaut is one optimistic astronaut.
Yeah, he's always got faith.
[01:01:44] Speaker B: He's a super fan.
[01:01:45] Speaker A: Super fan.
Thanks, Brown straw. Thanks for. Thanks for bringing some positivity to the show. We need it.
[01:01:50] Speaker B: Thanks for believing in the Browns when no one else does.
[01:01:53] Speaker A: I don't with that, let's get into the week five preview, guys. This week we have the Minnesota Vikings in London. In London. In London.
Mash. Pip pip. Ch. We're. We're doing it again.
They're so mad at us.
[01:02:22] Speaker D: It's so t. Because it's the same.
Do the same thing every time.
[01:02:26] Speaker A: You shut your mouth, bone tottenham.
[01:02:29] Speaker B: T him. Hot spoors.
[01:02:32] Speaker A: With the Week 5 preview comes another edition of Kenny's Cliff Notes.
[01:02:37] Speaker B: Is it time?
[01:02:38] Speaker A: It's time.
[01:02:39] Speaker D: It's time.
[01:02:42] Speaker B: Kenny's Cliffs Notes.
Are you ready?
[01:02:46] Speaker A: I'm listening.
[01:02:48] Speaker B: Okay.
We're gonna go a little London this week.
London.
[01:02:54] Speaker A: Oh, London.
[01:02:56] Speaker B: Save the queen.
All right, here we go.
Forget 2024 head coach of the year Kevin O', Connell, who's been at the helm since 2022.
The Browns are in danger this week because of, well, well, one Brian Flores and his defensive mastermind. But most importantly, Vikings assistant head coach Mike Petton and former Heisman trophy candidate and University of Akron alum Charlie Fry.
[01:03:25] Speaker D: Charlie.
[01:03:25] Speaker B: Both of these guys have vendettas against the Browns. Petton for the gift of Johnny Manziel, and Charlie for the Browns ruining his quarterback career and turning him into a defensive assistant for the Minnesota Vikings.
[01:03:37] Speaker A: How do you end up on the defensive side of the ball?
[01:03:39] Speaker D: Yeah, I'm just excited for Charlie, you know, still in the NFL. I didn't even know this.
[01:03:43] Speaker A: Time for Kenny's cliff notes. Shut up. Shut up. Now.
Don't you ever talk again.
[01:03:49] Speaker B: Alas, coaches, coach and players play. Speaking of Michigan quarterback JJ McCarthy is still rolled up like the little punk he is. And veteran Carson Wentz will be the play caller who put up 350 yards and two touchdowns a week ago against the Steelers in a loss. With all star running back Aaron Jones banged up with a hand, Miami and fourth year running back Jordan Mason will carry the load. He's averaged an impressive 4.8 yards of carry thus far this season.
This offense boasts one of the best receiver rooms in the NFL with Justin Jefferson, Jalen Naylor, Adam Thielen. He's back and the return of Jordan Addison. Fresh off suspension for a Dewey but already making his presence felt with four catches for 114 yards in Week 4.
Former Detroit Lion TJ Hawkinson is a standout at tight end in this offensive line for was supposed to be improved after remaking the interior over the off season, but has struggled with injuries and consistency in 2025. This defense is one of the better units in the league with key additions in Jonathan Allen, Javon Hargrave, Grave I can't talk in the off season.
[01:04:57] Speaker A: The.
[01:04:57] Speaker B: Front seven is formidable. Grenad and Ben Ginkgo provide consistent pressure and as a unit have given up just the third fewest Ginkgo made you.
[01:05:06] Speaker A: Laugh, the whole sequence a giggle I guess. They've given up just the third fewest.
[01:05:12] Speaker B: Runs of 10 or more yards this season. And you know Brian Flores is always looking for ways to create turnovers. There are questions about their depth in the secondary. However, that doesn't matter because the Browns passing attack has been non existent and is struggling more than Red Hot Ronnie Jam's hairline. I mean honestly fighting for its life at this point.
[01:05:31] Speaker A: No it's not.
It's honestly not.
[01:05:35] Speaker B: Will Reichard, a real hobbit looking, became just the second became just a second kicker all times elected out of Alabama joining David Ray who was drafted by the Cleveland Browns in 1966 and 6 foot 3, 245 pound lumbering punter Ryan Wright will hopefully will be wrong on Sunday as the Browns desperately need good field position to even sniff the end zone. Also this dude.
[01:06:05] Speaker A: Excellent deliver.
[01:06:08] Speaker B: Also this dude's about me page screams self made Wikipedia.
It's the longest bio page I've ever seen for a punter and it reads something like this. Punted three times in Week 8 at the Los Angeles Rams on Thursday Night Football 1024, all of which landed inside the 20. He averaged 50.3 yards per punt in Week 4 at Green Bay 929 recorded five punts for a total of 225 yards, 45.0 yard average hitting three inside of the 20. Bro, you a punter.
[01:06:36] Speaker A: We're going deep on punters here.
[01:06:38] Speaker B: No one needs to know anything about you. Why do you even have a bio?
[01:06:42] Speaker A: It's just for I kicked the ball.
[01:06:43] Speaker B: It's for random podcasters.
[01:06:45] Speaker A: I fixed it for you.
[01:06:46] Speaker B: For random podcasters like me looking for tidbits of information to make their life seem more interesting.
Go Browns.
[01:06:54] Speaker A: That was one of your Longer ones.
[01:06:56] Speaker B: Incredible.
[01:06:57] Speaker A: You had to read the whole bio for a punch.
[01:06:59] Speaker B: Yeah, it was a really long bio.
[01:07:02] Speaker A: With every edition of Kenny's Cliff Notes also comes a new edition of Ronnie Jams. Matchups that matter.
[01:07:11] Speaker B: Why do you say it like that?
[01:07:12] Speaker A: You said it.
[01:07:13] Speaker B: No, I say it the right way. You said Ronnie. Jim's Matchups that matter.
[01:07:16] Speaker A: Oh, you said Ronnie. Yes. Match.
I bet you can't guess how many matchups I have for you.
[01:07:32] Speaker B: Oh, let me guess. This is gonna be two in London.
[01:07:34] Speaker A: No, it's three.
[01:07:35] Speaker B: God save the queen.
[01:07:36] Speaker A: I've got three for you this week. Number one, Denzel Ward versus just Justin Jefferson.
[01:07:41] Speaker B: I'm Gobsmack.
[01:07:42] Speaker A: One of the best receivers meets one of the best DBs in the league. So you gotta highlight that one. I mean, that's the easy one, right? True.
Next up, Miles Garrett. It's. There's not much else to say there. It's just going to be a good show.
Miles Garrett vs Christian Darasaw for the next one. Darasol is one of the top blindside defenders in the entire league. Miles Garrett's from another planet.
[01:08:04] Speaker B: So what planet is he from?
[01:08:07] Speaker A: Not here.
[01:08:08] Speaker B: Planet Miles.
[01:08:09] Speaker A: Yeah. So we'll see. He's again, just another huge matchup there. And then finally, the last one you talked about a little bit in the Cliff Notes, in the interior offensive lineman for the Vikings versus Mason Gore.
[01:08:23] Speaker B: You don't have the punter on your matchups that matter?
[01:08:24] Speaker A: No.
The interior offensive lineman for the Vikings are. Donovan Jackson. Will. Freeze. Is it Fries? Freeze.
[01:08:31] Speaker B: Freeze.
[01:08:32] Speaker A: And Ryan Kelly.
The Vikings, as you said in Kenny's Cliff Notes, completely remade their interior line in the off season. However, Donovan Jackson was out this past week, may not be back this week, and if he does not come back this week, we'll see Joe Huber, whoever the hell that is.
So Mason Graham's been playing good football this season. I think he's got a really good chance to have a kind of a statement game here and build on what he's done so far.
[01:08:59] Speaker B: So somebody's going to have to.
[01:09:01] Speaker A: In summary here, the Vikings coming off a loss to The Steelers are 2 and 2.
They have one of the. You mentioned it. One of the top defensive units in football. They're a top 10 defense in the NFL. They're much better against the pass than the rush. They're just kind of average against the rush. Rush. They're. They're really good against the pass, though, which is not what you said, but that's what the defensive rankings show.
[01:09:22] Speaker B: They are good against the pass. Because.
[01:09:25] Speaker A: Because they give us pass rush. Yeah, Yeah, I gotcha. And then on offense, they're. They're in the end being ginkgo. Yeah, they're in the upper.
In the upper half of the league so far on offense this season.
And you mentioned that they. They will be going with Carson Wentz, but Carson Wentz, you threw for 350 yards last week. You know who hasn't thrown for 350 yards this. This year?
[01:09:48] Speaker B: Our quarterback, the Browns.
[01:09:49] Speaker A: In total, I think we might have a total of 350 yards. Yeah. So they're doing a lot better than us on offense. The Browns, they're coming off an abysmal showing against Detroit. They've got a one in three record. Still not a good team. Who knows who's going to play quarterback? Defensively, they still have one of the top units in all of football, but offensively they just don't have one. So no offense. Yeah, none whatsoever. Zero last week. I'm talking not this past Sunday, but last week before that against the Pack.
The Browns won a game, so they want to have the longest losing streak in the NFL. But on Sunday against the Lions, they promptly started a new losing streak. So to help us avoid another loss this week, we need bone, man. Skeleton key to victory.
[01:10:31] Speaker B: Can they go 10 games?
[01:10:35] Speaker D: All right, here's my.
[01:10:36] Speaker A: Wait for the Sounder.
[01:10:45] Speaker D: All right.
[01:10:46] Speaker A: Got bone.
[01:10:46] Speaker D: My key to victory is we need to stop the Minnesota's punter.
[01:10:50] Speaker A: No, I'm just kidding.
[01:10:52] Speaker D: All right, I just.
[01:10:52] Speaker A: I just.
[01:10:53] Speaker B: I just snorted the ew.
[01:10:56] Speaker A: I'm.
[01:10:57] Speaker D: All right, listen, you made.
[01:10:58] Speaker A: You made Thunder laugh. It was bad.
[01:11:01] Speaker D: I'm back on the turnover train. Okay?
[01:11:04] Speaker A: The same takes over and over and over again.
[01:11:07] Speaker D: All right, so Cincinnati, we had two interceptions. They weren't Joe's fault. We all remember that.
And then we had no turnovers around Baltimore. One fumble, one interception. All right, so now we're at minus four on the turnover differential. Green Bay, we had. We had one interception. They had an interception. So nil and void there, but we won the game, right? We had a turnover.
Detroit, two interceptions, one fumble, and we caused one interception, so minus two. So we're now minus six on the turnover differential. League worst. We're at the very bottom.
[01:11:38] Speaker A: I was going to say it's got to be nobody.
[01:11:39] Speaker D: Nobody is even tied with us. We're dead last.
And just for reference, Jacksonville's +9. They're 3 and 1, although they haven't played the best teams. But who would have thought Jacksonville would have been three and one at this point.
[01:11:51] Speaker A: So turnovers, that's the key.
[01:11:53] Speaker D: Yeah, we need. We need a turnover. If we have any shot at winning this game, we need to.
[01:11:58] Speaker A: Which we're in a pretty bad position because we don't cause a lot of turnovers. And you said that's Brian Flores's specialty, so it's.
[01:12:04] Speaker B: It always comes back to just needing Miles to do more. Like, it's not enough to just get a sack. We need you to strike.
[01:12:08] Speaker D: Strip sack, Strip sack. Pick it up, run it in.
[01:12:10] Speaker A: It sucks because we do. We always put it on Miles, but, like, you're the only hall of Famer on the defense, so.
Sorry, buddy. Like, we love Miles and we. We have said, like, this year, like, it's official. Like, we're. He can do no wrong. He's the best there is.
[01:12:24] Speaker B: Kind of like those Cavs runs where you're just like LeBron. You're just gonna have to do a little more. That's the only way you're gonna carry Mo Williams, right?
[01:12:34] Speaker A: All these guys, Mo Williams, Sasha Palskis. Yeah, yeah. That's an actual starting lineup along with LeBron in the 2007 NBA Finals.
But, yeah, I mean, is it fair? No, but that's where we're at.
[01:12:49] Speaker B: The only way you can win games.
[01:12:50] Speaker A: Sorry, Miles, this is. You're the guy.
[01:12:53] Speaker B: We're not saying you're not doing good. We're just saying we need you to do more if we're going to win.
[01:12:57] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
Kenny, betting info. This one.
[01:13:01] Speaker B: Ah, do you have the betting info for this one? You know what it is?
[01:13:04] Speaker A: Sure. I mean, that's why I asked.
[01:13:07] Speaker B: Oh, Vikings minus three and a half.
[01:13:09] Speaker A: Oh, somebody put some respect on our.
[01:13:11] Speaker B: Name and the neutral site.
[01:13:13] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:13:13] Speaker B: Over, under.
[01:13:14] Speaker A: You got to remember, the last few games that we've had at home, we've been like six and a half point underdogs, so.
[01:13:19] Speaker B: Well, yeah, well, and, and, and. And Vegas, frankly, had the over under exactly right last week at 44 and a half, so there was a 44 point point game this week. They. They've learned that the Browns don't score on offense. The over under is down to 36 and a half.
[01:13:32] Speaker A: 36 and a half. That's pretty low.
[01:13:35] Speaker B: And. Well, the Vikings are struggling on offense, too, because they're without their starting quarterback and without a starting quarterback.
[01:13:41] Speaker A: Defensive battle.
[01:13:43] Speaker B: Yeah. If there was ever a game for the Browns to win, like, this one's teeing up pretty well for them, outside of the fact that they got to travel a thousand miles away.
[01:13:50] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[01:13:55] Speaker B: How far Is London from Cleveland?
[01:13:56] Speaker A: How far is London? I don't know.
[01:13:58] Speaker B: How far is London from Cleveland?
[01:14:00] Speaker A: Probably a long train ride.
[01:14:02] Speaker B: It's a way long train ride.
[01:14:07] Speaker A: While you're looking that up, we're going to go to players to watch Bone. Actually, I'm going to start my player to watch this week. I already talked about him a little bit, but I'm going to go with Mason Graham.
He has a chance to have, like I said, a big statement game. Hoping he does for our sake. I don't know if I'm going to pick the Browns or not. We'll see in a minute. But yeah, I'm going with Mason Graham as my player to watch this week. How far is it?
[01:14:27] Speaker B: 3,700 miles.
[01:14:28] Speaker A: That's a long way, Bone. Who do you got this week?
[01:14:32] Speaker D: I'm going to go Jerry Judy and I just want to see him catch the ball consistently.
[01:14:36] Speaker A: That's fair. That's fair. It shouldn't have to be the player to watch because you should catch the ball.
[01:14:40] Speaker B: But when I first googled that, I got London, Ontario, Canada and it was only like 400 miles. I was like.
[01:14:47] Speaker A: Who wants to know how to get there?
[01:14:49] Speaker B: Yeah, why is that even a place? I don't know. God, said the Queen.
My player to watch this week is Jamari Thrash. So with just three healthy receivers. I keep asking this every week because that's what you come to the Berner sportscast for. The same takes over and over and over again.
[01:15:04] Speaker A: I keep asking, I can't wait till we're good so we can get back to FM F them all. Instead we go with the same takes over and over again.
[01:15:10] Speaker B: I keep asking who's going to step up and make an impact on this offense. Jerry Judy can't catch the ball and Joe Flacco can't find Isaiah Bond when he's open. So I guess maybe Jamari Thrash will be the guy. Let's. Let's see what happens.
[01:15:20] Speaker A: All right, I like that.
[01:15:21] Speaker B: We'll just throw that out into the ether and see. See if it comes back to us.
[01:15:26] Speaker A: I like it. All right, guys, it's finally time for King of the North.
All right, in case anyone doesn't know by now, Kenny, get ready.
[01:15:40] Speaker C: Ready.
[01:15:40] Speaker A: Strap in. Here we go. This is our year long AFC north pick' em competition. At the end of each season, whoever comes in last place gets punished. In the preseason two years ago, Kenny had a gross of eggs thrown at him by fans of the Muni lot before a game in the preseason last year, Kenny had his hair and beard shaved clean off.
Coming up soon, very soon, for losing this past season, Kenny is going to get hit a few times by John Hughes. We're talking, like, full pads. He's just taken a hit from a former defensive tackle straight to the face to at least two of them, maybe three. We'll see how many we want to get. We don't want to kill you, but we just want to get close, Get.
[01:16:17] Speaker D: A good shot of this.
[01:16:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:16:18] Speaker B: Are you excited, Kenny F. Big John Hughes.
[01:16:20] Speaker A: Let's dance, big boy. That's what you keep telling John Hughes.
[01:16:23] Speaker B: You ain't.
[01:16:24] Speaker A: Oh, I'm definitely turning this into a real.
And then this year, the loser will be getting a Brazilian wax. Kenny, you excited for that?
[01:16:33] Speaker B: Whatever. I guess so.
[01:16:35] Speaker A: You've been needing it. So let's go ahead and get into this. First things first. I want to remind everybody that Bone is the reigning defending King of the North.
Second, John Hughes has joined King of the north this year. And finally, Kenny, you're a clown.
[01:16:51] Speaker B: They don't call me George W. Bush for nothing.
[01:16:53] Speaker A: Yeah, fair. I don't think anybody's ever called you that, but I accept. Let's remind everybody of the current record for. For all of us after week four. Four. Bone on top at eight and five. I'm right behind him at seven and six. Big John Hughes, six and seven, and Kenny nowhere close at four and nine.
We got, like, at least three weeks of cushion now, so we're. I'm feeling good.
[01:17:13] Speaker B: More cushion for the pushing.
[01:17:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
So let's. Let's get into this week's games. We'll start at the Ravens. They host Houston. Kenny, who you got?
[01:17:25] Speaker B: Well, I guess we aren't sure what the status of Lamar Jackson is.
[01:17:29] Speaker A: Is.
[01:17:30] Speaker B: But the Titans is ass.
So Ravens.
[01:17:34] Speaker A: The. The Titans is ass. Aren't they playing Houston?
[01:17:37] Speaker B: Oh, did I write that down wrong?
Might. Might be. I might have wrote that down wrong.
[01:17:45] Speaker A: I'm just waiting for you to correct yourself.
[01:17:46] Speaker B: Ask me again.
[01:17:47] Speaker A: All right.
[01:17:48] Speaker D: The Texans beat the Titans 26 to 0.
[01:17:50] Speaker A: Yeah, they play the Texans. Man.
[01:17:53] Speaker B: Scratch that.
[01:17:54] Speaker A: Does that do anything for you?
[01:17:59] Speaker B: No, I'm gonna go Ravens over Houston.
[01:18:04] Speaker A: All right. And I also have the Ravens over Houston, even if they play a backup quarterback, which that reminds me. Backup quarterbacks for the Ravens. I bet Shador Sanders is feeling pretty bad right now.
[01:18:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Who would have thought that Baltimore would have given him a chance to play well before the Browns.
[01:18:19] Speaker A: Week five. That's when he would have been able to play, which might coincidentally be the. The week that we see Dylan Gabriel.
[01:18:26] Speaker B: Who even is the Ravens backup quarterback.
[01:18:29] Speaker A: That's probably a good point. We'll go to. We'll go to John right now while you're looking that up.
[01:18:33] Speaker F: I've got the Ravens beating the Texans this week at home.
With a loss on the road last week and a slow start to the season, Ravens going to be looking to get back on track and I feel like Harbaugh's to going going to definitely want to get Henry back in the mix.
He's had this kind of slow production these past few weeks, so getting him going again. And just overall the Ravens play a lot better ball in my opinion at home. So this will be a good game for them to get back on track against the Texans. Texans defense has been playing well, but with all the weapons that Lamar has and just himself, I feel like the Ravens are going to take care of business at home this week.
[01:19:15] Speaker B: Oh, it's Cooper Rush. He's pretty good.
I'll stay Ravens.
[01:19:20] Speaker D: He's got some experience.
[01:19:22] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Bone, who you got?
[01:19:24] Speaker D: I'm also going to go Baltimore battle of the one in three teams and I think Baltimore is going to go get to two and three.
[01:19:31] Speaker A: Yeah, fair. I don't. I don't think the Ravens are an actual 1 and 3 team. They just have had some bad luck so far. But they also don't have a defense though.
But not the Houston can put up any points and I'm with you, Cooper Rush. Thanks for looking that up. It just solidified that for me. But next up, Cincinnati is going to host Detroit. I got since. No, I'm just kidding. I got Detroit in this one.
Detroit is a pretty good football team. Cincinnati is not enough. Said John who you got?
[01:20:02] Speaker F: All right, next up we got the Bengals versus the Lions. Lions and the same kind of situation I got going on in Minnesota with Burrow in Cincinnati you can tell the lack of production the past few weeks on offense with Burrow being out and the Bengals defense also giving up 30 plus points a game. At this point I feel like the Lions offense is just going to be too much for him and the Lions defense is going to figure out against this backup with Browning. So I got the Lions on this one.
[01:20:30] Speaker A: Bone, who you got got.
[01:20:32] Speaker D: I'm also going Detroit.
[01:20:34] Speaker A: All right.
[01:20:35] Speaker D: They're just a way better football team.
[01:20:36] Speaker A: And Kenny, you going to start picking opposite you is it that time?
[01:20:40] Speaker B: It's pretty early in the season for that. But the Lions gave the Browns a proper humping which I believe they will.
[01:20:49] Speaker A: Not be over quickly return the favor.
[01:20:51] Speaker B: To the Bengals this week as well.
Jake Browning gonna be a rough day for you.
[01:20:56] Speaker A: I bet you'll be tuning in to see what his girlfriend's wearing.
[01:20:59] Speaker B: That I always do.
[01:21:02] Speaker A: So far everybody's picked the same teams for both games, so.
[01:21:08] Speaker D: Yeah, I feel like this week's going to be across the board.
[01:21:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
Finally we got the Browns. Well, Pittsburgh's on by, so there's only three. Three games this week.
[01:21:18] Speaker B: I'll take Pittsburgh this week.
[01:21:20] Speaker A: It doesn't count.
And it was a tie. So you lose. You lost another one. Good job, buddy.
[01:21:26] Speaker B: There was a tie last night.
[01:21:27] Speaker A: See Cowboys, we would all lost that one. Yeah, see, technically you can pick a tie. If you call a tie, great job.
[01:21:33] Speaker B: If you call it tie, you win automatically.
[01:21:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I think so. Anyways, John, who you got for the Browns taking on the Vikings in London?
[01:21:40] Speaker F: With the quarterback situation they have in Minnesota, McCarthy being out, I feel like the Browns defense is going to take advantage of it. And with our offense starting to get a little bit of steam. See. Starting to seeing some glimpses of some stars coming out with Vaughn and Judgins carrying the ball. Well, I'm hoping that our Browns figure out a way to get it going on offense and our defense takes care of business and I'll pull out a win. I got Browns 21, Vikings 17.
[01:22:07] Speaker A: All right, so big John going with the Browns. Bone, who you got?
[01:22:11] Speaker D: I'm going with the Vikings. There's just zero evidence that the Browns offense can do anything.
[01:22:17] Speaker A: So going Vikings and what's your score?
[01:22:19] Speaker D: Oh, man, let's do Vikings 27, Browns 3 13.
[01:22:25] Speaker A: Okay, Kenny, who you got?
[01:22:28] Speaker B: I'm going. Tie.
[01:22:29] Speaker A: Are you going?
[01:22:30] Speaker B: Because we said if you get a tie, right? You win the whole thing might be worth it.
[01:22:34] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, that's your only guess.
[01:22:35] Speaker B: I'm gonna guess every week somebody's bound to die and then I can't lose.
[01:22:40] Speaker A: It's a bold strategy. Let's see if it pays off for him. Cotton.
[01:22:44] Speaker B: Fuck it. Let's go Browns.
He's doing it.
We'll go Browns. Because. Because I want to root for the Browns this week. Weekend. That's. That's the only reason I can think to pick the Browns in this game. Because everything empirically would tell you that the Vikings are going to win this game.
But. But it is in London. It's a goofy week to. Vikings are on a two week trip. I'll go Browns.
[01:23:09] Speaker A: What's the score?
[01:23:10] Speaker D: Nice.
[01:23:17] Speaker B: 23. 21.
[01:23:18] Speaker A: One. Oh, close one. Nice. Is this gonna be a Schmidt kick?
[01:23:25] Speaker B: New.
[01:23:26] Speaker A: Okay.
Just. Okay.
This One's actually really tough because the Vikings.
Again, all empirical evidence says the the Browns should lose this game and the Vikings should win.
However, the Vikings have been over there already.
They played in Ireland last week, so there's not a huge time change for them.
[01:23:44] Speaker B: They're probably really drunk.
[01:23:46] Speaker A: That's a fair point. They might be really drunk. So it's going to goes one in each direction. Now the Browns have a long trip. 3,700 miles to get there.
[01:23:55] Speaker B: Way longer than I anticipated.
[01:23:57] Speaker A: Now, the Browns do really bad on the west coast, but we went really far east. Maybe they'll do better.
[01:24:02] Speaker D: Oh, that's a great point.
[01:24:03] Speaker A: Yeah. So Brian Flores, known for turnovers. The Browns don't force turnovers ever.
There's really a lot of weird things going on here. So who. I'm gonna go Vikings in this one simply because they've been there and they don't have the huge time jump to worry about. And I'm gonna go with a familiar score.
23, 21.
So.
[01:24:30] Speaker B: But it's the other way.
[01:24:32] Speaker A: Yeah, smart.
[01:24:33] Speaker B: Yeah, that's probably the one. It will be.
[01:24:35] Speaker A: Yeah, probably. Yeah. Before we close the show out, we've got a special guest this week coming to us from London.
[01:24:43] Speaker B: From London.
[01:24:44] Speaker A: So let's go ahead and do a quick what do do we. We want to call this?
[01:24:48] Speaker B: This is just a super special spectacular episode of the Burninger sportscast. With special guest.
[01:24:54] Speaker A: With a special guest.
[01:24:55] Speaker B: With a special guest powered by Riverside fm.
[01:25:09] Speaker A: All right, please help me welcome our special guest. He is a die hard Browns fan that lives across the pond. He started the first ever international Browns podcast. He also runs kick off on YouTube and he is a London foodie and food blogger all the way from the uk. Paul Brown.
Paul, how are you today?
[01:25:27] Speaker E: Yeah, I'm very good. It's the start of the Cleveland Browns week in London.
[01:25:31] Speaker A: It is, it is. And I'm not gonna lie, we're a little nervous about it. We hope it goes well, but first.
[01:25:37] Speaker E: Of all, why are you nervous?
[01:25:39] Speaker A: Why are we nervous? Did you.
[01:25:40] Speaker B: We're one in three, Paul.
[01:25:44] Speaker E: We're playing Wentz this weekend. Don't worry.
[01:25:46] Speaker A: Chill. That. That's true.
[01:25:47] Speaker E: You.
[01:25:47] Speaker A: Yeah, you give me hope. You give me hope. But before we get into some of the Browns questions, I have to ask.
Are you like, are you the real Paul Brown? Are you like the Paul Brown?
[01:25:59] Speaker E: I think I've got a wallet here somewhere. Yeah, I haven't got a wallet on me, but yeah, my name is really Paul Brown. Yeah.
[01:26:04] Speaker A: So nice. I didn't know but you're, you're, you're a different Paul Brown. You're not like the Paul Brown of started the Browns, right?
[01:26:10] Speaker E: No, I'm a little bit younger, but not, I do wear a fedora hat bit like Paul Brown used to wear, so.
[01:26:19] Speaker A: Oh yeah, very nice.
So how does, how does somebody living over in London, how do you become a Cleveland Browns fan?
[01:26:27] Speaker E: First of all, There is about one to 2,000 Cleveland Browns fans in London or the UK and you know, we get, get given NFL on TV on our cable service.
So it's quite a fast growing sport over here. I've been a fan for the last 10 years.
[01:26:46] Speaker A: Nice.
[01:26:48] Speaker E: I was over in Cleveland in 2016 where bizarrely my brother bought a Bernard Doodle from an Amish family. Family.
So I went down to Mansfield into Amish country, bought the dog, then drove it through Cleveland and then flew it back to London. But I've been wearing Cleveland Brown skiers for about 25 years, not even knowing what the team was just because my name's Paul Brown.
I don't know, I don't know where Raiders, you know, hat. I wanted to wear Brown's hat. So. Yeah.
[01:27:18] Speaker A: So nice.
And you mentioned Mansfield. We actually, I got my black lab about 11 years ago. I got my black lab from a farm in Amish country down in Mansfield.
[01:27:28] Speaker B: A lot of puppies in that area.
[01:27:30] Speaker A: Yeah. So no. And so I guess that that begs the follow up question, why do you stay a Browns fan?
[01:27:37] Speaker E: Okay, this is a good point actually, and I may offend some American listeners here.
[01:27:41] Speaker A: That's okay. That's what we're here for.
[01:27:43] Speaker E: Yeah, yeah.
I think you're going to upset the British culture thing later on anyway. But so basically when you're British, you're loyal to your die.
So in America you may have two teams you support. Never in England you only have one team. If they get relegated, they go down, you still support that team just as hard.
Kind of like being a Browns fan is. I've never been a glory fan. I'm sporting the Cleveland Browns after the 016 season.
Yes, very easy to change teams. But no. Cleveland's in my heart. Cleveland's in my blood. I'm 100% Cleveland Browns fan.
[01:28:24] Speaker A: No, that makes a lot of sense. Just, just, just from the little that I know about, like how you guys watch your football over there. I said football, but yeah, but yeah, no, that makes sense. I feel like I might be more in that line because people ask me all the time, don't you have another team that you kind of Pay attention to. I'm like, no, why would you pay attention to another team? So.
So with, I mean, with that being said, what do you think about this year's team and is there anything that you'd like to change forward, especially since we're at kind of a critical juncture with the team this season?
[01:29:00] Speaker E: Well, we've just signed a tackle.
[01:29:02] Speaker A: Yes. Yep.
[01:29:03] Speaker E: Or traded a tackle.
Yeah. He seems like a six round.
[01:29:11] Speaker A: Yeah, we now swap.
[01:29:13] Speaker E: I think he was drafted late second round.
[01:29:15] Speaker B: Right.
[01:29:15] Speaker E: I think or something.
[01:29:16] Speaker A: Yeah. Cam Robinson from the Texans is who we picked up. Swapped late round picks for him.
[01:29:21] Speaker E: Yeah. So who knows? Hey.
Yeah. I think looking at the Cleveland brands at the moment, running back room looks great.
Our defensive line looks great.
Our linebackers look good.
Our two starting cornerbacks look great.
Maybe we lack a bit of depth there.
Our safeties look great. So yeah, I think on the defense side probably wouldn't change a lot.
On the offense, Well, O line, we've got no. 1, if I'm correct, rejoining the Browns next year. So I think the whole.
Maybe Domin, John Donwan, D. Jones maybe, but otherwise.
Yeah, Jack Conklin, what's going on with him and his injury miss? Is it two, three games now in a row?
[01:30:12] Speaker A: Yeah. Yep. I don't think he's played yet, has he?
[01:30:14] Speaker E: Yeah.
[01:30:15] Speaker A: So push. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
[01:30:17] Speaker E: So I think definitely O line.
A lot of people are going for the wide receiver coach at the moment. Like, you know, why can't he get that wide receiver room? Right. Yes. We've got a, a great wide receiver one, but then the, the depth once game falls off. But yeah, I don't know.
Tight end room looks great. Except for Fanny. Should have catched a few balls yesterday, I think.
[01:30:44] Speaker A: Yep. Yep. And you, you mentioned the receivers. Obviously Jerry Judy's having his, his drop problems right now too, so.
[01:30:52] Speaker E: Yeah, I think, I don't know.
You know, look at the court. Quarterback. I think the Cleveland Browns number one priority is getting the quarterback.
[01:31:02] Speaker A: Right.
[01:31:03] Speaker E: And now we're seeing a big deficit in the O line. Just because we've gambled on Deshaun Watson. We've missed out on. On three first years of first round picks.
Is that correct? Three years. I think we missed.
[01:31:16] Speaker B: Yeah, we have to update our board here too now because we've now gone zero days without mentioning Deshaun Watson.
[01:31:23] Speaker E: Sorry.
[01:31:25] Speaker A: It's okay. We try to, we try to mention. Mention him as little as possible. It was, to be fair, it was only at one day before so.
[01:31:33] Speaker E: And yesterday you didn't speak to each Other.
[01:31:35] Speaker A: So yeah, yeah, it just happens to come up. So no.
Yeah, there's a lot that needs to be done with the quarterback robe. Do you have a preference if they, if they turn to the rookies here soon? Which one do you want to go with?
[01:31:52] Speaker E: Yeah, look, question for you first and then I'll answer the question. Do you think Joe Flacco is going to start in London?
[01:31:59] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:32:00] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:32:01] Speaker E: Yeah, I think so too.
Number two is obviously going to be Gabrielle.
And yeah, you know, look at yesterday. Yesterday I think to myself, okay, we have lost to the Lions.
This is the game where we bring Saunders in.
Like you say, you're an NFL first round quarterback, go and do it today and shock us that I know he wasn't active, but that's what I kind of like to have seen yesterday. Keep Gabriel in Cornwall, keep him safe. But in that game yesterday, you got a fifth round rookie.
Chuck him out there and I think he could swim, but you know, he could also sink as well. We saw him in that last preseason game where he didn't play too well, but the first game he owned it. He stood up well and I thought there's some real high, high ceiling in this guy.
[01:32:57] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. To your point, I mean it's an interesting concept, is like you get some of these, especially some of these blowout games because unfortunately I think we might have a few more. If you throw Sanders out there, then you're right, he might sink, he might swim, but at least you start getting some of these questions answered. Right.
[01:33:15] Speaker E: Yeah.
I don't follow college football that well, but like everyone's saying Manning, next year, Browns get Manning. But I don't think he's doing too well. Is that correct?
[01:33:26] Speaker A: That's correct. He's not only not doing too well, he's doing really poorly.
[01:33:30] Speaker B: I would say he's been underwhelming. I think if you look statistically, I.
[01:33:34] Speaker A: Think he's bounced back back against lesser teams these last couple weeks.
[01:33:37] Speaker B: Throw nine touchdowns to three picks this year and a little shy of a thousand yards. So it's early this season, so we'll see what the rest of the year looks like. But certainly has been underwhelming and obviously he played Ohio State in week one and that did not go well for him at all. So. And that's the most NFL ready defense he's going to see all season long.
[01:33:53] Speaker E: Yeah. So look, I don't know what the solution is. People are saying go for trade for, you know, Cousins.
It just seems like doom and gloom and then, sorry, mate, you can change this to days, to hours or to minutes.
Deshaun Watson is potentially coming back in, in a few days time in next month, you know, in October. So I think the Cleveland Browns know this and even though the owners have said look, we're sorry, they've actually said we're sorry for it.
But they're still going to roll the dice again, I think with desean Watson.
[01:34:34] Speaker A: You think so? I, I'm. The more the season goes on and the reluctance to go to the rookies, I'm actually starting to agree with everybody that we are going to see desean Watson.
[01:34:45] Speaker B: I fear that we will see him play again this year.
[01:34:48] Speaker E: What were your views when we signed him?
[01:34:49] Speaker A: Honestly, my views were I under. I, if, if you think that's what gets you over the hump, then I understand the movement move. But I, I was, I was cautiously optimistic. But with all his baggage and everything else he brought along with it, I think everybody was apprehensive.
[01:35:06] Speaker B: Well, I would say I was.
[01:35:08] Speaker A: He was totally against, against the move.
[01:35:09] Speaker B: Because I thought you had a pretty good quarterback sitting here already that you could win games with. But we know how that worked out.
[01:35:17] Speaker E: Yeah, I'm a, I'm a Baker fan still now.
But you know, when we signed to Sean Watson, I thought to myself, okay, we've got a potential top 10 quarterback here coming to the brands.
Part of the politics. I thought, you know, this guy can go out and win some games.
But yeah, well, he had a great game against the Ravens if I think I remember correctly.
[01:35:43] Speaker A: Great half.
[01:35:44] Speaker B: Great half.
[01:35:45] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[01:35:46] Speaker E: But yeah, I think there's still some stuff in the locker. I think that he can be good. But yeah, let's just, let's just see, see. But yeah, I, yeah, we've got five quarterbacks on this roster. Four.
Four that we can talk about now.
You know, all four of them could start any game really, couldn't they? To be honest.
[01:36:08] Speaker A: Yeah, Yeah. I mean that kind of sums it up. It's a mess right now and we're just going to try and get through it and get through the. I mean, don't get me wrong, we're excited still for the season. We love this season. We love watching the Browns evil when they're not very good at football, which is usual. Yeah. But we still love watching them. I mean, like you said, we're all die hard fans. We want them to obviously bounce back and do well. So let's just. We'll have to see how it plays out through the season.
[01:36:36] Speaker E: And we've got.
We've got in front of us some easier games now.
[01:36:43] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:36:43] Speaker E: Vikings without their starting quarterback.
Steelers are looking better than we thought they were. But who knows against the Steelers. Yeah, the Dolphins, Patriots. Okay. They got. I think they got a win yesterday, a comfortable win yesterday. But then we got the jets.
You know, they're games we can win. And then we've got maybe, I don't know what Lamar Jackson, I heard he got an injury last night. But then we've got Lamar Jackson and Ravens. We've got the Raiders, 49ers, Titans, Bears.
You know, you start believing that that.
[01:37:19] Speaker A: Could be a good season.
[01:37:20] Speaker E: We look at them fixtures.
[01:37:21] Speaker B: Do you have the schedule on your wall, Paul, or is that all from memory?
[01:37:25] Speaker E: No, no, I have it behind me.
[01:37:27] Speaker A: That's fine. I was like, damn, he's just. This is running them off.
[01:37:31] Speaker E: Yeah, chat, chat. GBT is working overtime here.
[01:37:34] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah.
So, you know, with that question for you, just you've seen more and more football obviously being played in Europe with the NFL kind of doing their overseas game games. Do you foresee in the near future a team coming to Europe?
[01:37:52] Speaker E: It's a big question.
It could happen. I think the NFL you can see is getting really global now.
I think next year game in Australia.
So they're really trying to globalize the NFL.
The thing that once again, Americans don't understand about the British is they think they bring the Jacksonville Jaguars over to London. They think they're going to sell out a stadium with Jaguar fans. And me as a NFL fan, I'm going to support the Jags and drop the Browns. That's not happening in a million years.
And most NFL teams who've got UK fans will just stay with their. Will stay with the fan base they support for whatever reason.
So NFL are having a bit of a shock at the moment because they haven't sold out the game in London.
They haven't sold the game out here in London for the Vikings. They haven't sold the jets game and the Broncos. I think it is.
I don't think the Steelers doubling game also sold out. So they've put their prices up really high this year and yeah, having a little bit of a negative effect.
So you may see some empty seats in the stadium where three years ago the stadium would sell out within an hour.
[01:39:13] Speaker B: Well, I haven't personally traveled internationally like that. I mean, do you think that's a reasonable toll to put on the players to have to. If there was a team in London to have to go back and forth to get through an NFL season, there's.
[01:39:28] Speaker E: So many questions about this, like how they going to get taxed because they're spending so much time in the uk.
You know, are you gonna play two games in back to back home games in the UK and then you're gonna do two games on the road? You know, like, yeah, it's.
It could happen. I think what they would do, listen to Roger Goodell is maybe try and get four teams over and start like a division over here and then like fly over, back in between and try and get it, like get it going like that. I think.
[01:40:14] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean that would be interesting. It would at least keep them over there for a little bit of time.
[01:40:18] Speaker B: Well, and they did have like that NFL Europe. I mean, way back, probably nearly 2,000. Yeah, yeah.
[01:40:23] Speaker E: So Joe Thomas was coaching in Munich last year in the Europe League League.
You've also got your Canadian League above you in America.
[01:40:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, it'll definitely be interesting to see how they expand and they kind of keep talking about it and it's almost like inevitable at this point. It's just like you said, there's a lot of questions, how do they make it work?
And you answered. My follow up to that is would you stay a Browns fan or jump ship and yeah, absolutely. Stay a Browns fan.
[01:40:53] Speaker E: Yeah, I think that's the, you know, that's the problem with the American culture. They think, okay, we're going to franchise you a team with a load of Brits. Our spritz are just not going to change teams.
To give you an idea, when you go to watch jets vs Broncos, it's a unique experience because you'll see 20% jets fans and 20% percent Bronco fans than a sea of every other jersey in the NFL.
So yeah, you're gonna, it's, it's.
I don't think it's gonna stay. And like the million dollar question is, when do you think they'll have a Super bowl outside of the usa? Look, it will never happen, but you know, maybe in 100 years they're trying to make it happen, you know.
[01:41:47] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
And then so next up here, I just, I, I know you, we talked about it a little bit, but you have your own Browns podcast I mentioned in the opening. Can you tell us a little bit about your podcast?
[01:42:01] Speaker E: Yeah, sure. We've been going since 2017.
Me, a guy called Jack Duffin who does a lot of the analytical stuff, and another guy called Ian Wright. Every Monday night we just get on the podcast, have a chat. We don't really push it out anymore. We've got like a nice little.
Nice little following and. Yeah, just.
[01:42:22] Speaker A: Good. Just.
[01:42:22] Speaker E: Just catching up. Sometimes I give a little. Few little snippets about what I'm hearing in. In the Browns camp with friends and people, but otherwise just.
Yeah, just basically talking Cleveland Browns from an international view.
[01:42:39] Speaker A: Nice. And then from there, you've actually become somewhat of a food blogger or critic online. How'd you make that trans transition?
[01:42:48] Speaker E: Yeah, so I've always been into my food. I'm a little bit chubby.
[01:42:53] Speaker A: Kenny knows.
[01:42:54] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a problem, Paul. It's a problem.
[01:42:57] Speaker E: Yeah. But, yeah, Wednesday night I'm taking Joe Thomas out for a steak.
[01:43:03] Speaker A: Oh, nice.
[01:43:04] Speaker E: Yeah, so we're going out for steak on Wednesday night. And then Thursday night I've got about eight Cleveland Browns fans coming over for dinner, so I'm gonna cook him a beef Wellington.
And yeah, I've actually just had fish and chips. That's why I was late. Sorry. I just done a video telling all the Cleveland Browns fans where the best fish and chips are in central London.
[01:43:27] Speaker A: So nice doing a service out there.
[01:43:30] Speaker B: Beef Wellington, that's a hard one to nail. Is that something you. You make regularly over there?
[01:43:35] Speaker E: I knew we did for New Year's Eve, but as the Cleveland Browns fans are coming, I'll do a little special one for them.
[01:43:40] Speaker A: You.
[01:43:41] Speaker B: Nice.
[01:43:42] Speaker A: Nice. Well, listen, Paul, to finish things up here, I got a. I got a list of about 10 questions that I just want to fire off to you randomly.
Here's the deal. We know that us Americans are very obnoxious. We know nothing about your culture because we're pretty self absorbed. With that in mind, I'm going to ask you these questions. If any of them offend you, I apologize ahead of time.
[01:44:03] Speaker E: No, nothing offends me.
[01:44:05] Speaker A: But I'm just going to throw these out here. You answer them as quickly as you can. Feel free to expand a little bit as we go, though.
So, number one, Downton Abbey or Peaky Blinders?
[01:44:17] Speaker E: Peaky Blinders.
[01:44:19] Speaker A: Number two, Kate or Pippa Middleton?
[01:44:23] Speaker E: Pippa.
[01:44:24] Speaker A: Number three, how do you take your tea?
[01:44:28] Speaker E: You know, I don't drink tea, but if I was to drink tea, I'd have it milky and sweet. So lots of sugar, lots of milk.
[01:44:34] Speaker A: Okay. Number four, the Monarchy. Yay or nay?
Yes.
Number five, when is Tuesday? I don't see it on my calendar.
[01:44:46] Speaker E: Is that. See you next.
[01:44:50] Speaker A: I gotcha. I got. Yeah. Number six, most baffling American custom for you.
[01:44:56] Speaker E: Most American, Thanksgiving.
[01:45:02] Speaker A: It's my favorite holiday.
[01:45:05] Speaker E: You have a Christmas meal a month before Christmas. And you don't have any presents.
[01:45:09] Speaker A: Presents.
That's why it's my favorite holiday.
[01:45:12] Speaker B: There's no obligation to give anyone anything.
[01:45:14] Speaker A: Yeah.
Next up, number seven. How often do you say, mate?
[01:45:21] Speaker E: 20 times a day.
[01:45:23] Speaker A: Eight. Why is everything so cheeky?
[01:45:28] Speaker E: We have. The English culture is very cheeky. We can always be messing around. The more you like someone, the more fun you have with someone.
[01:45:37] Speaker A: Okay.
Number nine, why is the AC over there so bad?
[01:45:42] Speaker E: True fact.
I've got a house has no ac. We just.
We're not AC fans. You know, we just.
[01:45:49] Speaker A: No, you're fans. You like fans?
[01:45:51] Speaker E: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we like fans. Yeah.
[01:45:58] Speaker A: And then number 10, is London really that rainy?
[01:46:05] Speaker E: No, not really. It's a similar weather. Similar weather to Cleveland. Look, look out the window now.
Classic London weather. It's gray, it's cloudy, but it's not always wet.
[01:46:17] Speaker A: Yeah, it is pretty much Cleveland weather. And then bonus question.
Polo. Is that a shirt or a sport?
[01:46:24] Speaker E: Both.
[01:46:25] Speaker A: Okay, fair enough. Fair enough. Do you have any questions you want to throw? Are we.
[01:46:31] Speaker E: Okay? Let's go. Americans. Yeah.
Yeah.
[01:46:37] Speaker A: Why?
[01:46:37] Speaker E: Why?
You have, like a long holiday season, don't you?
You have like. Yeah, yeah.
[01:46:45] Speaker A: End of the year.
[01:46:47] Speaker E: Yeah. So we don't have that in England. We have a very small Halloween.
Then we go into everything prepared for Christmas.
[01:46:54] Speaker A: Christmas.
So you're asking why do we do that? The answer is pilgrims. The Thanksgiving.
[01:47:02] Speaker B: I think the answer has now become the commercial.
[01:47:04] Speaker A: Yeah, it's all commercialized. Consumer.
[01:47:06] Speaker B: Consumer economy. Because we can sell things for a longer period of time.
[01:47:10] Speaker A: Exactly. And it has just. In the last probably 15 years, Halloween has blown up into this huge thing that it never used to be like it was.
People got into Halloween, but not like they do now. So it's huge.
Yeah, it is. It's basically October, mid October through the end of the year.
[01:47:25] Speaker B: Yep.
[01:47:25] Speaker A: So the.
[01:47:26] Speaker E: The World Cup's coming up in your country.
How much are people talking about it?
[01:47:33] Speaker B: I had no idea.
[01:47:33] Speaker A: It was little to none. I was going to say not much.
[01:47:37] Speaker E: Football, Soccer. So next year you got the biggest ever World cup and it's coming to America.
There used to be 32 teams, but it's been expanded to 48 national teams, which is a massive thing. And it's coming to America and it's like a huge thing for us.
But I believe in America, no one really cares about it. Is that right?
[01:48:01] Speaker A: Pretty much.
[01:48:02] Speaker B: I mean, there is a small. I mean, I wouldn't say. I mean, it's millions of people, but it's.
[01:48:06] Speaker A: It's.
[01:48:06] Speaker B: It's dwarfed by the populations of people that enjoy football, baseball, basketball.
[01:48:12] Speaker A: Yeah. My. So my wife. I know a little bit about this stuff. My wife grew up playing soccer and she still follows along. Don't ask me who her team is. I have no idea.
They're red and yellow. I know that.
But she, she still follows along and she's very excited for the World Cup. So, like, to Kenny's point, there's. There's a few million people here that are very excited for it, but overall.
[01:48:33] Speaker B: And I. I would say that it's growing in popularity now.
[01:48:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:48:37] Speaker B: Especially because of the concerns with like, head injuries and things in football. We see a lot more parents now opting to have their kids start in youth soccer programs as opposed to youth football programs. So I think it's going to continue to grow here.
[01:48:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:48:52] Speaker E: And what's your local football team? Soccer team here?
[01:48:57] Speaker A: Cleveland doesn't have one, but Columbus Crew. True.
[01:49:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:49:00] Speaker E: Do you ever go and watch any games or not. Not bothered.
[01:49:03] Speaker A: I haven't seen any games. I. That's it. But it's not because I don't want to. Like, I actually really do want to go see one of those games.
[01:49:09] Speaker B: It's a pretty rowdy atmosphere. Yeah.
[01:49:11] Speaker A: Yeah. But it is. I mean, it is two hours away, so it's like. Not that that's all that far, but it's just. It's far enough to where it's like it takes a whole day. Day to. To go watch a game. So.
Damn, we're die hard Browns and. And Buckeyes fans, so that stuff comes first. So.
[01:49:27] Speaker E: And what about the. The Guardians? They're winning at the moment.
[01:49:29] Speaker A: Hell yes.
[01:49:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:49:31] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:49:31] Speaker B: We're looking forward to a playoff run here.
[01:49:33] Speaker A: Yep. Yep. So biggest comeback ever in MLB history, so it's pretty cool.
[01:49:38] Speaker E: And explain to me how that's going to work now the next few days. Like, you got games coming up soon with the Guardians or I think Tuesday.
[01:49:45] Speaker A: Yeah, Tuesday.
[01:49:46] Speaker B: Tomorrow.
[01:49:47] Speaker A: Tuesday. Yeah, yeah, we got them tomorrow. And Detroit again in it.
[01:49:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:49:55] Speaker A: Yep.
[01:49:55] Speaker B: So host Detroit. So we'll see. Anything can happen in October. Baseball here. So.
[01:50:01] Speaker E: So, yeah. So what does that mean? And is there like five games now or seven games?
[01:50:07] Speaker A: The first round is five games, I believe. Correct. So, yeah, it's best of five to start.
Hopefully it's done by the weekend. Yeah.
[01:50:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:50:16] Speaker E: So is there any risk that the Gardens will be playing this weekend or not? No.
[01:50:21] Speaker A: Yes, there's some risk. I mean, in all honesty, they only beat. They only beat Detroit for the division by a game. And it took.
[01:50:28] Speaker B: Well, they kind of act into it anyway.
[01:50:30] Speaker A: Right. So, yeah, I mean, there is a.
[01:50:31] Speaker B: Possibility it'll be a competitive series.
[01:50:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:50:35] Speaker E: Last question for you guys.
Cleveland, downtown, where's your favorite food spots?
[01:50:43] Speaker B: So I actually just had my anniversary dinner at Red the Steakhouse downtown this weekend.
That's really up there. They're one of the few places you can get certified Angus. Certified Angus beef. And Marble Room is always spectacular. Spectacular venue, great food.
Can't beat Marble Room.
[01:51:03] Speaker A: If you wouldn't have said, I probably would have forgot about it. Even though it's the best one up there, I'm going with Marble Room.
[01:51:08] Speaker E: What about Fahrenheit with Rocco?
[01:51:12] Speaker A: Fahrenheit's good.
It's.
[01:51:18] Speaker E: You're not a fan?
[01:51:20] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, I could take it or leave it.
[01:51:22] Speaker E: Yeah.
[01:51:22] Speaker B: I mean, it's good. It's not. I just. When I think of, like, the top restaurants, I'm usually thinking more like the top, Top echelon. Like fine dining, I guess.
[01:51:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
What about you?
[01:51:35] Speaker E: When I'm in Cleveland, obviously lunchtime, I always get a Slimmans.
[01:51:41] Speaker A: Good choice.
[01:51:41] Speaker B: Good choice.
[01:51:44] Speaker E: And then I just like exploring Tremont or the Flats and just like, new little spots here, there, and everywhere.
So, yeah, there's a lot of good.
[01:51:52] Speaker B: Foodie spots in that area. Good taco shops and things where you can get all kinds of good stuff. For sure.
[01:51:58] Speaker E: My favorite taco place in Cleveland is in Lakewood. There's a supermarket and they got some dodgy tacos.
[01:52:06] Speaker A: What does that mean?
[01:52:08] Speaker E: Sorry.
[01:52:12] Speaker A: I'm just trying to educate. I'm just trying to educate all the Americans listening here. What? Seriously, what does that mean?
[01:52:17] Speaker E: Dodgy means like, 50.
[01:52:19] Speaker A: 50.
[01:52:19] Speaker E: You probably may get food poisoning. You may not, but.
[01:52:22] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:52:22] Speaker B: Those are the best.
[01:52:23] Speaker E: Good.
[01:52:24] Speaker A: Yeah, I got you. Yeah. Okay.
[01:52:26] Speaker B: Well, Paul, you may be across the pond, and I don't know if anyone's ever made you a. An honorary Clevelander before, but I feel like we. I feel like you're definitely an honorary Clevelander. I don't have the ability to bestow that upon you. I can't knight you like you do over there, but I feel like the Burning River Sports cast at least bestows that upon you.
[01:52:44] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. If nothing else, you're an honorary Burning river sportscaster.
I don't know. I don't know what they call us.
[01:52:51] Speaker E: We need to get. I'll get something British for you for the. The backdrop of the podc.
[01:52:56] Speaker A: That would be perfect. Absolutely. That would be awesome. But no, Paul, thank you so much. I wish we could keep talking to you all day. This has been a blast so far, but we've already run basically twice as long as I said we were going to, so.
[01:53:07] Speaker E: Sorry.
[01:53:08] Speaker A: No, you're good. It was a good conversation. We enjoyed every minute of it. And again, we hope to have you back on sometime soon.
[01:53:15] Speaker E: Go Browns.
[01:53:16] Speaker A: Thanks, Paul.
[01:53:17] Speaker B: Thanks, Paul.
[01:53:22] Speaker E: I'm Paul Brown and. And you're listening to the Burning River Sportscast. Come on, the Browns. Let's do this.
[01:53:33] Speaker A: Yeah, it was awesome talking to Paul Brown, wasn't it?
[01:53:36] Speaker B: Paul was a good sport.
[01:53:37] Speaker A: He was a good sport.
[01:53:39] Speaker B: That's a guy that, you know is. Fellow industry men.
[01:53:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:53:43] Speaker B: Doing the podcast thing.
[01:53:45] Speaker A: Yeah. His food stuff's pretty. Pretty fun to watch. I mean, it's all short, like reels and like, quick things. He did a. He mentioned. Mentioned it in the interview, but he did a. A best place to get fish and chips for Browns fans.
[01:53:57] Speaker B: Oh, fish and chips.
Wellington. I'm impressed that he's gonna be.
[01:54:04] Speaker A: Yeah. He's also having dinner with. He's having steak with Joe Thomas. Joe Thomas.
[01:54:09] Speaker B: So sweet.
[01:54:10] Speaker A: That's.
[01:54:11] Speaker D: That's pretty cool.
[01:54:12] Speaker A: Just flexing on us. But yeah, we appreciate Paul Brown. That was a good interview.
[01:54:17] Speaker B: I mean, to be fair, he's the only international Browns podcast around. So true. Or at least he was the first. There might be others now, but.
[01:54:23] Speaker A: But with that, let me remind everybody to call the Burning R Sportscast hot take hotline. Nobody gets call and leave your hot takes on hot take Highline. Remember, these are hot takes. We want hot takes.
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[01:54:47] Speaker B: Of it just like Drew.
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[01:54:58] Speaker B: What can we expect next week?
I will tell you.
[01:55:04] Speaker A: I'm going to show you.
[01:55:09] Speaker B: She was a bartender.
We will be last live on Sunday night. Look for us live on YouTube, Facebook and X as we recap the Week 5 matchup against the Vikings in Tottenham.
Should be on around 9:30, even with the time change in England and all that.
[01:55:25] Speaker A: Yeah, they're going to miss it.
People over.
[01:55:28] Speaker B: Sorry and next are the Browns on at 9:00am?
[01:55:31] Speaker A: Yeah, nine. Nine, 9:00am Nine or 9:30am I think.
[01:55:34] Speaker B: Oh, man.
[01:55:35] Speaker D: It'll be broadcasted locally, right?
[01:55:36] Speaker A: For us. Yeah. It's still on your normal channels.
[01:55:39] Speaker B: That'll be an interesting day.
[01:55:40] Speaker A: Yep.
What else are we going to do next week?
[01:55:43] Speaker B: Next Thursday we'll be back with the week six preview for the game in Pittsburgh against, you know, the Steelers.
[01:55:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:55:51] Speaker B: And another Brownsbacker interview, of course.
[01:55:53] Speaker A: Don't know who it is yet, but tbd. Yeah.
[01:55:55] Speaker B: Oh, tbd. Going to Pittsburgh.
[01:55:57] Speaker A: London.
[01:55:58] Speaker B: London Banging.
[01:55:59] Speaker A: And M. And don't forget to check us out on social media. Tap Media is on Facebook X and Instagram at the tab. Media Burning Sportscast. That's this podcast on Facebook. Instagram made me laugh.
Instagram, he made me laugh. He said podcast.
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[01:56:56] Speaker D: Hold it.
[01:57:09] Speaker A: What do you got for us today, Kenny?
[01:57:10] Speaker B: Facts for days, friends.
[01:57:11] Speaker A: I'm here for the facts.
[01:57:12] Speaker B: Time for facts.
[01:57:13] Speaker A: We're going across the ocean. Are you doing whale facts?
[01:57:16] Speaker B: How did you know we were going across the ocean?
[01:57:18] Speaker D: Oh, that's a good time to do it.
[01:57:19] Speaker A: London. We're going to London. We're going across the ocean. Are you doing whale facts?
[01:57:23] Speaker D: It's like a 106 day swim.
[01:57:28] Speaker B: Now there's a fact. For days.
Why was going proverbially across the ocean for facts for days.
[01:57:37] Speaker A: Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, I get what you're saying. Go ahead.
[01:57:39] Speaker B: Like to Europe.
[01:57:41] Speaker A: You were so mad at me for saying. How did you know that?
Why did you look at my notes before?
[01:57:46] Speaker B: You were creeping in my brain.
[01:57:47] Speaker A: No, you don't. You're the only one.
Let's break the fourth wall here. Kenny's the only one that doesn't put his notes in the notes. Like we have no fucking idea what Kenny's gonna say at any given moment. None.
[01:57:58] Speaker B: I like to keep you on the toes.
[01:57:59] Speaker A: Yeah, you like to keep me on the toes.
Ten toes. Down number one.
[01:58:05] Speaker B: Napoleon Bonaparte.
[01:58:08] Speaker A: He was short.
[01:58:09] Speaker B: He was short indeed. And was once.
[01:58:12] Speaker A: Is this where you're going?
Hell, yes. I'm two for two today.
[01:58:18] Speaker B: He was short and was once attacked by a swarm of rabbits.
[01:58:26] Speaker D: Is that what rabbits do? They're swarms?
[01:58:28] Speaker B: Not particularly, no.
[01:58:30] Speaker A: Is that the proper terminology for a large pack of rabbits is a swarm?
[01:58:35] Speaker B: I believe it is, yes.
[01:58:36] Speaker A: Okay. I take your word for it. This is facts for days.
[01:58:39] Speaker B: After all, a group of stingrays is called a fever.
[01:58:43] Speaker A: Bonus fact.
But yes.
[01:58:46] Speaker B: Was once attacked by a swarm of rabbits. In July of 1807, during the celebration for the treaties of Tilsit, his chief of staff organized a rabbit hunt with domesticated farm rabbits, which instead of fleeing because they were domesticated and used to.
[01:59:02] Speaker A: Seeing people, they just wanted to come.
[01:59:04] Speaker B: Towards, swarmed Napoleon and his guests, mistaking them for a source of food. The chaotic attack forced Napoleon to retreat to his carriage as the rabbits continued to attack him, humiliating the French emperor.
[01:59:17] Speaker A: Everybody thought he had a Napoleon syndrome because he was, you know, he was short. It was because he actually got embarrassed by a swarm of rabbits. Yeah.
[01:59:26] Speaker B: Rabbits are vicious.
[01:59:27] Speaker A: Also just a psa.
[01:59:30] Speaker B: Get a random PSA by ry in the middle of.
[01:59:33] Speaker A: Swarms of rabid domesticated rabbits are taking over inner cities across America.
France at this time. France. Yeah. Anyways, go on.
[01:59:42] Speaker B: Number two.
The Brits.
[01:59:45] Speaker A: The Jackhawk 9000. Sorry. Go on.
[01:59:47] Speaker B: Drink a lot of tea.
[01:59:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:59:50] Speaker B: It's a fact most of you probably knew.
[01:59:52] Speaker A: Yeah. So we said we're gonna have the British tea party.
[01:59:55] Speaker B: It was the Boston Tea Party.
[01:59:57] Speaker A: That's what I said. That's British tea. Was thrown in the Boston Harbor. The Boston Harbor. I don't know where I'm going.
[02:00:04] Speaker B: Are we doing British accent?
[02:00:05] Speaker A: I'm really. My coffee's hitting hard.
[02:00:07] Speaker B: North Jersey. What is this?
[02:00:08] Speaker A: I don't know.
Start over.
[02:00:10] Speaker B: The Brits drink a lot of tea.
[02:00:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[02:00:12] Speaker B: Which is a fact most of us knew. But do you know how much tea they drink?
[02:00:17] Speaker A: At least three times what the Americans drink.
[02:00:21] Speaker B: I guess. I have no way to know that they drink.
[02:00:27] Speaker A: It's the worst fact.
[02:00:28] Speaker B: Approximately. Approximately 150 million cups of tea daily, which is roughly 36 billion cups of tea each year.
[02:00:42] Speaker D: That's a lot of tea.
[02:00:43] Speaker B: Bonus fact about the tea. 98% of Britain drinks their tea with milk, which is basically unlike any country in the world.
[02:00:51] Speaker A: What Was that number?
[02:00:53] Speaker B: 150 million cups of tea day.
[02:00:57] Speaker A: That's a lot.
I was just wondering.
[02:00:59] Speaker B: I'm trying to compare 36 billion cups.
[02:01:02] Speaker A: Of tea every year that's a lot.
[02:01:05] Speaker B: Number three, forget football and even football, or soccer as they call it.
[02:01:12] Speaker A: Football.
[02:01:13] Speaker B: Across the pond, the UK is home to one of the eldest sporting traditions in the world.
[02:01:21] Speaker A: What is it?
[02:01:22] Speaker B: Cheese rolling.
[02:01:23] Speaker A: Hell yes.
[02:01:24] Speaker B: Is a sport on espn.oo estimated that the sport started in the 15th century. Once a year, competitors compete in a cheese rolling competition at Cooper's Hill in Glester Shire.
[02:01:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[02:01:42] Speaker B: During these competitions, participants chase a.
This is where things get stupid because London. 3.2 kg gram wheel of double Gloucester cheese.
[02:01:53] Speaker A: Why that size?
[02:01:56] Speaker B: Why? We can't just say £7 like we do in the real world.
We want to measure a cheese wheel that's 3.2 kg heavy.
Anyways, they push this 7 pound wheel of cheese down a steep hill.
The winner for crossing the finish line first wins a wheel of cheese.
[02:02:16] Speaker A: Hell yeah. Yes. Nice. Every time you talk about weights and measures, it just reminds me of Nate.
[02:02:20] Speaker B: Bargetsy when he was George Washington.
[02:02:25] Speaker A: I dream of a country where we have our own measure weights and measures.
Will that make sense? No, no.
[02:02:34] Speaker B: I feel like ours makes more sense. In the cheese rolling competition though, seven pounds is an even, like a nice even number. Like it's a full number.
[02:02:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Like in that point, like you can pick and choose. Like, okay, it's seven pounds because it's just seven.
[02:02:45] Speaker B: Or like why would have been a three kilogram wheel of cheese or a four kilogram wheel of cheese?
[02:02:51] Speaker A: I don't know. Bone. You can talk, why don't you?
[02:02:54] Speaker D: I, you know, I think it's up in the air, the cheese debate.
[02:02:58] Speaker B: It's actually rolling down a hill.
[02:03:00] Speaker A: The cheese debate.
[02:03:01] Speaker D: Does it lose any cheese as it goes down the hill?
[02:03:04] Speaker B: Does it lose any cheese? By the time it gets to the bottom, it has to be 3kg, at.
[02:03:08] Speaker A: Least half the size it wants was.
[02:03:11] Speaker B: They, my friends, is facts for days.
[02:03:13] Speaker A: Those were interesting.
Not good, but.
[02:03:16] Speaker B: Oh, thanks.
[02:03:17] Speaker A: I'm just kidding. They were fine. They, they weren't your best, but they were all right.
[02:03:20] Speaker B: I was trying to be.
[02:03:22] Speaker A: I've had better European centric trying to.
[02:03:25] Speaker B: Assimilate to the culture.
[02:03:28] Speaker A: After you spent the whole show saying, oh, London the Queen. Yeah.
[02:03:33] Speaker B: Is that offensive?
[02:03:33] Speaker E: I don't know.
[02:03:34] Speaker B: Maybe.
[02:03:34] Speaker A: I don't know.
[02:03:36] Speaker B: Apologies, I guess.
Wasn't trying to be offensive. We were just having some fun. Just good natured.
[02:03:42] Speaker A: You know who I'm offended by today?
[02:03:43] Speaker B: Just good natured.
[02:03:44] Speaker A: Ribbing bone. Bone offended me today.
[02:03:46] Speaker B: Drew Aller.
[02:03:47] Speaker A: Yeah, Drew Aller. He's just not a gentleman.
[02:03:49] Speaker D: I came in here with an attitude, so I get it. I completely understand.
[02:03:52] Speaker A: Yeah. I just wanted you to come in and do your job. Instead, I just got attitude. You talked when you weren't supposed to.
Oh, you can talk now.
[02:04:06] Speaker D: Is it time to go to bed?
[02:04:08] Speaker A: Yeah, it's time.
[02:04:09] Speaker B: Okay.
[02:04:10] Speaker D: Well, yeah, I'm going to sleep, Akron, so. Bon appetit.
[02:04:13] Speaker A: I'm not really this mean to Bone. I just. It became a thing on this show today.
[02:04:16] Speaker B: You've just been mean to everyone today.
[02:04:18] Speaker A: Well, I was in some type of mood because the Browns suck ass.
[02:04:24] Speaker B: Don't just be a part of the problem.
Be the whole damn problem.
[02:04:28] Speaker A: And only you can prevent river fires Burning river Sports gas Burning, burning river.
[02:04:34] Speaker B: River Burning river down Burn, burn, burn it down London bridges falling down Burn them down Falling down Falling down Burn.
[02:04:43] Speaker A: Them down London bridges falling down My fair lady does anybody know the second verse?
[02:04:50] Speaker D: No.
[02:04:50] Speaker A: No. Let's sing that one again.
[02:04:51] Speaker B: London Bridge London Bridge is falling down Falling down, falling down London bridge is falling down My fair lady Good night, Cleveland.
[02:05:02] Speaker A: Good night, Cleveland.
[02:05:03] Speaker D: Good night, Akron.
[02:05:05] Speaker A: Quiet on set. I now have two loves in my life.
Big city living and a voodoo woman named Phyllis. I didn't think we'd be getting into Brad Pitt.
[02:05:18] Speaker B: I can't even say I didn't think we'd be getting into Brad Pitt's ass.
[02:05:22] Speaker A: Yeah, didn't think we'd get in there.
[02:05:25] Speaker B: We talk a lot of analingus on this show.
[02:05:27] Speaker A: So put your right foot in and take your right foot out. Then put your right foot in and shut the hell up. Because it's not time for the hokey Pokey. It's time for the Burning River Sports Cast. Motorboat. You play the motorboat.
You motorboat. Son of a.
[02:05:43] Speaker B: You old city.
You know, I was thinking during that interview.
[02:05:46] Speaker A: What? What were you? Nothing. Because you don't have thoughts. Because you're a brainless idiot.
[02:05:50] Speaker B: Wow.
[02:05:51] Speaker A: My name is Uhtred. Son of Uhtred, by the way. I want my foreskin back. It doesn't matter what you think.
[02:05:58] Speaker B: Women's Guide to. To Anal Sex. And it was the second edition. Who makes that second edition?
[02:06:04] Speaker D: The weather outside is weather.
[02:06:06] Speaker A: The other one. The finger. The finger. Eating food. Fingers. Oh, God. My. My God. My ass is full of he.
[02:06:13] Speaker B: Everywhere.
[02:06:14] Speaker D: Yes.
[02:06:15] Speaker B: Ejaculate all over my body and my genitals.
[02:06:17] Speaker D: Yes.
[02:06:17] Speaker A: Oh, no.
We suck again.
[02:06:20] Speaker D: You don't need fundamentals when you got heart.
[02:06:23] Speaker B: And Jesus.
[02:06:24] Speaker A: And Jesus.
[02:06:25] Speaker D: That's right.
[02:06:26] Speaker A: Touchdown. Anyway. What do you mean, funny? Funny how? How am I funny? It's going down. I'm yelling.
[02:06:32] Speaker B: Timber.
[02:06:33] Speaker A: God damn.
Should we start a meat podcast. Like, like, like the meat pod.
Slow roasted.
The leads are weak. Leads are weak.
Leads are weak. You're weak.
[02:06:49] Speaker B: Then we should send a team of oil core drillers a la Armageddon to Mars to have them access the newly discovered reservoirs of water traps 7 to 12 miles under the surface that when released, will cover the entirety of everything on the planet. Less than a mile high.
[02:06:58] Speaker A: All I do is win, win, win, no matter what. Erroneous. Erroneous on both counts. I mean, when I. Last year, when I won and went home, you know, my wife's pants hit the ground.
[02:07:08] Speaker B: Wow.
[02:07:09] Speaker A: But damn.
[02:07:10] Speaker B: I'm sorry I hijacked your segment for a second to do some good podcasting.
[02:07:15] Speaker A: You know why, mister? Because you drove a Hyundai.
[02:07:18] Speaker E: To get here tonight, I drove an $80,000 BMW.
[02:07:22] Speaker A: That's my name. I think we've officially lost all of our more conservative viewers, so I don't think they want to listen any longer.
[02:07:31] Speaker D: It's Mother Nature.
[02:07:32] Speaker A: I live my life a quarter mile at a time.
[02:07:34] Speaker B: Where's logo girl when you need her?
[02:07:36] Speaker A: I desperately want to make love to this cheese.
[02:07:38] Speaker B: We need cheese girl now who's canceled now?
Who's canceled now?
[02:07:46] Speaker A: Probably me.
[02:07:47] Speaker B: You making it for the fat people.
[02:07:50] Speaker A: I'm not just you.
[02:07:51] Speaker B: We're a whole race, basically.
[02:07:55] Speaker A: No way. You're just straight. Just finger bang their salad. Why save your.
[02:08:00] Speaker D: You first get shocked and then you get the shocker.
[02:08:06] Speaker B: You like to see almost naked.
[02:08:07] Speaker A: That's cool, man.
[02:08:08] Speaker B: Whatever.
[02:08:08] Speaker A: No, no, no, no, no. Most people, like they're driving along and they're like in between meals, they're like, I'm a little hungry. I'm going to have a granola bar. It's like, I need a cheeseburger.
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