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[00:00:00] Speaker A: Hey, Browns fans, this is your chance to join the company of some of the Browns all time greats on the first ever Browns fan cruise. Picture this for five unforgettable days, you're sailing across the beautiful caribbean sea, reliving the Browns'greatest moments, getting autographs, snapping photos and celebrating on the beach with your favorite Browns alumni like Josh Cribs, webster slaughter, Aaron Metcalf and a dozen others. Book now and take advantage of our easy, budget friendly payment plans on this once in a lifetime, all inclusive cruise adventure. The clock's ticking, Browns fans. To book your cabin and for more information, visit brownsfancruise.com or call 216-284-6472 today Browns fan cruise, where diehard fans and Browns alumni come together for the trip of a lifetime. Don't wait. Secure your spot today and go Brown.
[00:00:55] Speaker B: Media.
[00:01:15] Speaker C: The it's time. Time for the burning river sportscast. It's gonna be hot, it's gonna be sticky. It's gonna be a hell of a good time because it is time for the Cleveland Browns fan cruise put on by seaside events. That's right, the Burning river sportscast is about to take our talents to South beach ahead of five unforgettable days at sea with 16 Browns alumni with stops in the Bahamas and Jamaica. And we couldn't be more proud to be invited to help mc some of the events on board. We'll be live streaming and putting out content all week long to bring you right along with us on to share in this once in a lifetime event. Lest we forget, the combine is wrapped and draft boards are being set ahead of free agency, which opens in just a few days. Who do we like? Who do the Browns like? We'll break it all down for you next on the Burn river sportscast.
[00:02:21] Speaker B: On the wrong salami.
[00:02:25] Speaker C: Should we stop digging up bodies?
First off, have we seen the mummy?
[00:02:30] Speaker B: Man, we went from being so happy for this. This high priestess buried face down in a woman to keep saying priestess.
[00:02:38] Speaker D: It's a priest.
[00:02:39] Speaker B: Priest.
[00:02:42] Speaker C: It was a lesbian priest, chief. Muffed down for eternity.
You're right over there, bone man.
[00:02:50] Speaker D: Sorry, a spider crawled on me.
[00:02:52] Speaker C: I was trying to kill it.
[00:02:54] Speaker B: We just heard rustling over there and we're like, what's happening?
[00:02:57] Speaker D: The Aldi cashiers, as you know, are the fastest cashiers in the world.
[00:03:02] Speaker C: I'm pretty sure I have bipolar or schizophrenia. And they're like, no, you have a peanut allergy.
[00:03:08] Speaker B: College bone, what's your take on this guy? I would like to know.
[00:03:11] Speaker D: He's too small. If the browns draft him.
[00:03:13] Speaker B: I'll be pissed.
[00:03:14] Speaker C: Very good.
Marvin Harrison Jr. Is my wet dream. Smaller guy. Six, 8180.
[00:03:25] Speaker B: Smaller guy.
[00:03:26] Speaker C: 6866 foot, 186.
I've been drinking a lot of koolaid lately.
[00:03:31] Speaker D: It's busting through the wall.
[00:03:32] Speaker B: Disagree. As an adult, I hate koolaid.
[00:03:36] Speaker D: Use the koolaid.
[00:03:37] Speaker C: We're no longer friends.
[00:03:38] Speaker B: It feels bad.
[00:03:39] Speaker C: Maybe you haven't had any good koolaid sailing the Caribbean looking for strippers and cocaine.
[00:03:44] Speaker B: Okay, maybe not.
[00:03:45] Speaker D: Is that what they advertise?
[00:03:47] Speaker B: I don't think so.
[00:03:50] Speaker C: 500Ft.
[00:03:52] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:03:54] Speaker C: About the height of a 40 story office building.
[00:03:57] Speaker D: Saltwater tastes terrible.
[00:03:59] Speaker B: That's what you got out of that?
[00:04:00] Speaker D: Yeah. That's why it tastes so bad. So thick.
[00:04:03] Speaker C: There's so much salt.
[00:04:05] Speaker B: So much salt. How does it even get to the point where it's at least dissolved enough that we can't see it very well?
[00:04:11] Speaker C: Very fine grain off of, like, rocks and minerals and just shifting in the ocean tides forever.
[00:04:16] Speaker B: Bro, you blew my mind.
[00:04:24] Speaker C: Welcome in to the burning river sports gas, presented by tapin'media and brought to you by seaside events. As the official cruise event provider of the Cleveland Browns and organizer of the Browns fan cruise, I'm Kenny Thunder, the man who watches hunger games every time it's on tv. Seated. Besides tryptococcus survivor and amateur DJ red hot Ronnie jams, may the ods be ever in his favor. Back on the board today, the future of artificial reality adult entertainment, the big bone. Man bone. How does it feel to walk around knowing the whole planet wants to sleep with you?
[00:04:55] Speaker D: Wow.
I guess I feel good.
[00:05:00] Speaker B: He just learned this news.
[00:05:04] Speaker C: Where can our listeners find all the burning river sports guest content, including our exclusive interviews with Browns backers and former Cleveland Browns players to rev up their engines as we prepare to depart for the Cleveland Browns fan cruise, put on by our good friends at seaside events, the official cruise event provider of the Cleveland Browns.
[00:05:21] Speaker B: You can find our podcasts wherever you get your podcasts, I'm talking Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, Pandora, iHeartRadio, podcast, Castro, good pods, and so many more. And don't forget to subscribe on YouTube. The only place that you can find our video podcast, as well as all of those interviews that you just said.
We are on YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok. Our handle for all those socials is at Burning River Sportscast, and we are on X, the artist formerly known as Twitter, as well with the handle at Burning river pod. And while you're at it, check out our merch ww thetapinmedia.com backslash shop we've got all kinds of stuff in the shop, the cruise line. That's all that matters right now. So go check out the cruise line. You could check out everything else if you want, but we're kind of past cold weather gear season.
We got some warm weather gear.
[00:06:05] Speaker C: We got to get some tanks out there.
[00:06:06] Speaker B: Yeah, some tanks. We're going to sell a tank.
[00:06:08] Speaker C: I'm a tank.
[00:06:09] Speaker B: You are a tank. But make sure you check everything out and buy something if you like it. But on today's show, we've got for you part three of our three part series. That's right. We are wrapping things up with our series about what the Browns need this offseason, and today's discussion will be centered around the NFL draft and what areas of need the Browns should be worried about most, as well as our realistic players that we want to see the Browns target this year. So this is kind of like who we really want them to draft.
[00:06:38] Speaker C: Like our pre draft episode before the draft.
[00:06:42] Speaker B: Uh, even though the draft isn't for.
[00:06:44] Speaker C: Because the draft months, because things could change over the next month.
[00:06:46] Speaker B: Well, we got a sabbatical once we get back from the cruise.
[00:06:49] Speaker C: Yeah, we'll do the fan cruise show when we get back and talk about the fan cruise, and then we'll be on sabbatical probably until the draft, I would say.
[00:06:56] Speaker B: Yeah, probably like six weeks.
No alumni interviews today. The ship is about to set sail, so alumni interviews have set sail with it. But go back and catch a few of the old ones. Great stories to be heard. Just a taste of what you'll get on the cruise. We've also started, I mean, if you follow us on social media, you've seen those real shorts, TikToks, depending on what platform you're on. But small little morsels from each of these interviews that we've kind of started to cut up. And they're out there and they're good.
[00:07:25] Speaker C: We get most of the alumni.
[00:07:27] Speaker B: Just Hanford Dixon stood us up. Well, to be fair, he literally makes, like, every event for the Browns.
[00:07:34] Speaker C: And we're going to corner his ass on the fan group.
[00:07:36] Speaker B: Oh, you're going downhill.
Bone is going to come find you and drag you to the conference center. That's right.
[00:07:43] Speaker C: Artificial reality, adult entertainment stuff to him.
[00:07:46] Speaker D: You're going to like it.
[00:07:47] Speaker B: That's right. But with all that said, I've got to say, all aboard because the party barge is leaving the station and you don't want to be left behind. So let's get that party started with the burning river news story of the week.
All right, and so for the burning river news story of the week, in Panama, an ancient tomb was found full of gold, treasure and sacrificial victims. This past week. I think it was this past week. Bone, is that right?
[00:08:27] Speaker D: It was sometime, yeah, it was a recent story.
[00:08:30] Speaker B: The tomb is approximately 1200 years old. It was filled with gold bracelets, belts, beads, crocodile shaped earrings, gold covered sperm whale teeth earrings, and a lot of dead people. And so the grave most likely belonged to a high status chief from the Cokele culture, if I'm saying that right. Probably not.
[00:08:51] Speaker C: But I hope the name for a Cleveland t shirt company Co. Cleave.
[00:08:55] Speaker B: I like it.
31 other bodies were found that were sacrificial victims. So this high priestess or high chief was not buried alone.
And the chief, it turns out, was buried face down on a body of a woman. Hell, yes. Muff diving for eternity.
Yeah.
Good job, buddy.
[00:09:18] Speaker D: There may even be more bodies. They said they're not even done excavating this place. So there might be even more than 31 dead bodies.
[00:09:24] Speaker B: What's the over under on dead bodies? For a high priest, I would say 50 50.
[00:09:29] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:09:29] Speaker C: How high was the priest?
Like ayahuasca high.
[00:09:33] Speaker B: Alahuska.
[00:09:35] Speaker D: I was looking at some of these pictures, like, of all the gold they found. It's pretty remarkable. If anybody looks these pictures up, there's tons of gold. It's just layering the floor bones, telling.
[00:09:45] Speaker B: Us it was substantial.
[00:09:46] Speaker D: Yeah, substantial.
[00:09:47] Speaker C: I was actually just reading that if we found all of the gold from shipwrecks and stuff, like pirate gold in the ocean, each person on a plant could have, like, nine pounds of gold.
[00:09:55] Speaker B: Hell, yes. That's actually a lot of money.
[00:09:57] Speaker C: Yeah, it's a lot of gold. There's been, like, 3 million shipwrecks in history. So there's a lot of gold down there.
[00:10:02] Speaker B: Guys on the fan cruise. Should we just split off and just go on a treasure hunt?
[00:10:07] Speaker C: I don't think so. First off, I'd like to say, should we stop digging up bodies?
First off, have we seen the mummy?
Nothing good comes of that.
[00:10:18] Speaker B: We're not talking about that new one with Tom Cruise. That one was trash. We're talking about the original, the 1999 Brendan Fraser here. You keep going.
[00:10:27] Speaker D: I'll bring Rachel Weiss.
[00:10:28] Speaker C: Yeah, smoke show. But haven't we learned anything? That's probably not a good idea to just uncover the secrets of the past. Sometimes things that are meant to be buried should stay buried.
Secondly, this was their final resting ground, right? We're just disturbing graves at this point. Can you imagine in war torn Boston, 1500 years from now, some guy is like, hey, look, it's Ben Franklin. He was like one of their best guys. Like, let's dig him up.
[00:10:57] Speaker B: No way.
[00:10:58] Speaker D: They could learn so much about our.
[00:10:59] Speaker C: Culture from egyptian journalists. Unbury Ben Franklin. Take it back to Egypt, put him in a case. Look at Ben Franklin.
[00:11:09] Speaker D: Well, this is kind of cool because a lot of graves like this were robbed, right? So a lot of times this stuff isn't found. True, to find an intact tomb with all the artifacts and stuff.
[00:11:20] Speaker C: But if you found George Washington and all his wooden teeth, wouldn't that be cool to untune?
[00:11:23] Speaker B: That would be dope ass. I couldn't find my bumper sticker that I usually carry around with me for some od reason. But it says, honk if you'd rather be watching the 1999 cinematic masterpiece, the mummy, starring Brendan Fraser and Rachel White.
[00:11:36] Speaker C: Supposed to be up here somewhere. Yeah, we haven't got our brand new studio.
[00:11:40] Speaker B: You don't fuck with mummies.
[00:11:41] Speaker C: Finished yet, but don't fuck with mummies. I'd also like to add. Do you know the sperm whales sleep vertically?
This gets even creepier when you think about a single sperm whale sleeping vertically. They also sleep in pods so that they are protected from animals.
[00:11:56] Speaker B: Top view, you're flying around drone style. And then you just see, like. You just see, like, a bunch of.
[00:12:02] Speaker C: Circles, just, like, mouth open. Like, just flirtically laying there. But then they sleep in, like, pods of, like, 30. So there's just, like, 30 vertical sperm whales.
[00:12:10] Speaker B: That'll be wild. What if you're driving a boat out there and you submarine son of a bitch. And then you're like, all right, we better go around this, and we hit another one.
[00:12:17] Speaker C: It's like an old Mario game. Yeah, Mario. That's my fault. Mario.
[00:12:21] Speaker B: Half me, half you. Half me, half you.
So we're not going treasure hunting?
[00:12:27] Speaker C: Look, I said there's plenty of gold to be found.
[00:12:30] Speaker B: Yeah, but you also told me not to. Not to mess with mummy.
[00:12:33] Speaker C: Well, I do think that is a bad idea. I think we should. What if we buried a thousand years ago?
[00:12:38] Speaker B: A shipwreck or something? Where there's no bodies, there's always bodies.
[00:12:42] Speaker D: They're always hiding the treasure.
[00:12:43] Speaker B: Both shut me down so fast. There's always bodies.
I thought they went to Davy Jones Locker.
[00:12:50] Speaker C: Yeah, 20,000 leagues under the sea for sure.
[00:12:54] Speaker B: So many literary and cinematic references.
[00:12:57] Speaker C: Look, it's also dangerous to do this for a couple of reasons.
[00:13:01] Speaker B: Speak for yourself. I laugh in the face.
[00:13:03] Speaker C: There's other pirates out there that want pirate gold that might kill you.
[00:13:07] Speaker B: We're not near somalia.
[00:13:09] Speaker C: It doesn't matter. Pirates are everywhere. It's anyone that doesn't follow the rules of international waters.
[00:13:15] Speaker B: That's the life we should have lived.
[00:13:16] Speaker C: Maritime law. They're like f. Maritime.
[00:13:18] Speaker B: I wouldn't have made it very far as a pirate.
[00:13:20] Speaker C: No.
And actually, some of this stuff is really far down. And when you think about it, there's been more people that have.
[00:13:27] Speaker B: You've officially talked me out of it, because I am terrified of the ocean.
[00:13:31] Speaker C: There's more people.
[00:13:31] Speaker B: Hence why I'm going on a cruise.
[00:13:33] Speaker C: There's more people that have set foot on the moon than have explored, like the.
[00:13:36] Speaker B: Marianne, don't go down this rabbit hole. This isn't something I want to talk about right before we leave for.
[00:13:41] Speaker D: There's that big submarine story not too long ago.
[00:13:44] Speaker C: Right?
Yeah.
[00:13:46] Speaker B: Ocean gate.
[00:13:47] Speaker C: Yes. Yeah. The more that comes out about that, the worse it even is. Like I was reading about that thing.
[00:13:52] Speaker B: Was literally held together with popsicle sticks and bubble gum.
[00:13:57] Speaker C: It collapsed faster than the pain receptacles can get to your brain, like if you're injured. So they were already dead when they floated into a pink mist and never knew anything.
[00:14:07] Speaker D: That's wild.
[00:14:08] Speaker C: In milliseconds of. Milliseconds collapsed upon.
[00:14:12] Speaker B: That's why I don't like that you called it a pink mist. Because now it's just stuck in my head. That's pretty much. I know you're not wrong. I'm just saying. Thank you.
[00:14:20] Speaker C: It's not good, man.
[00:14:22] Speaker B: We went from being so happy for this high priestess buried face down in a woman.
[00:14:28] Speaker D: You keep saying priestess, it's a priest.
[00:14:30] Speaker B: Priest.
[00:14:33] Speaker C: It was a lesbian priest. Chief muffed down fraternity.
[00:14:39] Speaker B: It was good all around.
[00:14:41] Speaker C: That takes us to the burning river rundown.
[00:14:43] Speaker B: Burning river rundown.
[00:14:59] Speaker C: That.
[00:15:01] Speaker B: I don't know why I kept saying priestess, kind of get it out of my head.
[00:15:05] Speaker D: He was buried on top of the priestess.
[00:15:07] Speaker B: He was on the priestess. He was a priest.
It was a man.
[00:15:11] Speaker C: It was not a priest. On priestess. On priestess. Action.
[00:15:14] Speaker B: He was a man. He had a beard.
[00:15:16] Speaker C: Beard.
[00:15:19] Speaker B: Oh, man.
[00:15:20] Speaker C: Packs of rabid dogs controlling our major cities.
[00:15:22] Speaker B: Yeah. All right, so to start the burning river rundown, we're going to start with all the Browns news we have, which isn't much.
Not a lot happened. This is the offseason.
[00:15:32] Speaker C: That's why we're going on a cruise.
[00:15:33] Speaker B: But the Browns have once again been linked to Justin Fields. As his trademark. It seems to be cooling off significantly after the first round of nobody wants him because we know you guys are going to release him and we're not going to pay your high price. So the ringers, Benjamin Soleick, I think is his name, had this to say. He said, we know that Cleveland is interested in mobile quarterbacks. He listed Josh Jobs, PJ Walker, Dorian Thompson, Robinson. All is either playing games for them or on their roster at some point last season, he said, we know that their analytically minded general manager, Andrew Barry should always be interested in high upside gambles at the quarterback position. And we know that offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey has worked with a big bodied, physical QB runner before in Buffalo with Josh Allen. So this is just a good fit.
[00:16:19] Speaker C: Is Justin Fields as big as Josh Allen?
[00:16:22] Speaker B: Not bulk wise, I don't think. But I mean, he's not small. He's like 220 some pounds.
[00:16:27] Speaker C: Is he that heavy? I thought he was like six. 2210.
[00:16:30] Speaker B: No, I think he's like 200 some pounds. Bone that's you.
[00:16:33] Speaker C: Look it up.
[00:16:34] Speaker B: Justin Field stats.
But he prefaced that by saying, if there's no clear starting path for Justin Fields, it makes sense for the Browns as a backup, which I agree with. I mean, he's like your prototypical. Like that's the guy.
[00:16:48] Speaker C: It's hard to imagine Justin Fields is at a point in his career where he's going to be a backup already.
[00:16:53] Speaker D: I got 227 pounds.
[00:16:55] Speaker C: Oh, wow.
[00:16:55] Speaker D: I mean, that's the first dead he.
[00:16:57] Speaker C: Still lighted Josh Allen, but yeah, I.
[00:16:59] Speaker B: Mean, not as 63.
[00:17:03] Speaker C: That alone, I'm surprised that he's relegated to potential backup already.
[00:17:07] Speaker B: But just think of how many starting quarterback positions are not available right now.
[00:17:14] Speaker C: Well, yeah, and it's going to be that market is just going to get muckier because there's six quarterbacks taken in the first round.
[00:17:21] Speaker B: So there's going to be at least three rookie starting quarterbacks. There always going to be, I would say two minimum. Three at least, probably, yeah.
[00:17:30] Speaker C: I mean, there's going to be at least three starters that come out of this like day one.
[00:17:34] Speaker B: Just think of how many starting quarterback jobs there are.
[00:17:37] Speaker C: Not, I would have to say if Justin Fields ended up here, he would give Deshaun a run for his money.
[00:17:43] Speaker D: I agree.
[00:17:43] Speaker B: I would agree with you. And maybe that's what we need.
[00:17:46] Speaker C: And maybe you go play him.
[00:17:48] Speaker B: Maybe you go into it, though, and you say, look, you're the starter, but.
[00:17:52] Speaker C: Do they want his quarterback competition with a $230,000,000 guaranteed contract quarterback?
[00:17:56] Speaker B: We'll get to it, but Russell Wilson just is in the process of getting, you know, it's nothing's off the table with this. I mean, wilder things have guess, but yeah. So I mean, just an interesting, you know, we all love Ohio State, so I'm sure we'd all be ecstatic to have an Ohio State guy in the locker room. Just in.
[00:18:15] Speaker C: Mean, Fields is electric. He's just in a bad situation in.
[00:18:19] Speaker B: You said all last year, just get out of Chicago.
[00:18:21] Speaker C: I would love to see him go anywhere else. I think the Browns would be a tough spot for him to land because of Deshaun, but I'm just so excited.
[00:18:26] Speaker B: To see Chicago land on their faces when they draft Caleb Williams number one overall and he's terrible. I'm not get into Caleb Williams right now. Yeah, I'm not going to get into Caleb Williams right now. Maybe during draft talk, but I think he's a bust. I've said it for weeks. But anyways, just when you thought the Browns coaching staff was all set, more changes are coming. Offensive assistant Jonathan de Costa is set to join the Florida Gators staff in Gainesville to work closely with their OC and be their co offensive line coach. This marks this team's 7th coaching staff change in the offseason and 6th on the offensive side of the ball. Obviously, none of know he's not a big name around the Browns organization. It's not a guy that you just rattle off his name. You're like, ah, that coach.
[00:19:06] Speaker C: No, but he's been around the organization for a while and he spent eight years in college football prior to coming to the just it's, it's tough to continue to lose guys and have to replace them, especially this late game.
[00:19:17] Speaker B: True. I will say if the offense doesn't look drastically different this year, then that tells you all you need to know about who's really running the offense.
[00:19:25] Speaker C: Yeah, that's for sure.
[00:19:27] Speaker B: But yeah, I mean, another coaching change, like you said, coaching changes in general, just it's, there's going to be an adjustment period early in the season when everybody's getting used to each other. Hopefully they get through it by the time the season starts in training camp and preseason and everything else. But I mean, well, it's also just.
[00:19:42] Speaker C: Like this late in the game, you're thinking, you're right over there, bone man.
[00:19:47] Speaker D: Sorry, a spider crawled on me.
[00:19:49] Speaker C: I was trying to kill it.
[00:19:50] Speaker B: We just heard wrestling over there and we're like, what's happening?
[00:19:54] Speaker C: There wasn't a ton of information about why he left necessarily, but it just kind of makes you wonder, is this somebody that lost faith in the leadership of the Browns for an office and thought, I need to find a better.
[00:20:04] Speaker B: Well, to be fair, I mean, you think basically the whole offensive staff is turned over. So he's like, I don't know anybody here, I don't care. True, but yeah.
Next up, former Browns wide receiver, Braylon Edwards.
[00:20:18] Speaker C: My dude saved an 80 year old.
[00:20:20] Speaker B: Man from an assault in a Michigan YMCA locker room. The 20 year old suspect fled on foot, but was later apprehended by police. And the 80 year old man had a head injury and other minor injuries, but should be okay. And Braylon Edwards is like being like, they're saying he's like a hero. He walked in like it was a vicious attack, like the kid was just beating the shit out of him. And Braylon Edwards stopped it. So you don't fuck with Braylon Edwards. I mean, he walks in, he's like six, 3230 pounds, and you're like, all right guy, look, I like to see.
[00:20:51] Speaker C: Ex browns in the news for being heroes. That's a good thing.
Him and Peyton Hillis, maybe they could form like a charity, like superhero group.
[00:20:58] Speaker B: Oh, nice.
[00:20:59] Speaker D: Brown's Hero foundation.
[00:21:00] Speaker B: Yeah, I like it.
[00:21:01] Speaker C: We stop crime, death.
[00:21:03] Speaker B: Maybe we could start it and they.
[00:21:04] Speaker C: Could be co founders, they could be our employees.
[00:21:09] Speaker B: No, we're going to do good. They'll just be the face, okay? They'll be the face. We'll run everything so they don't have to.
[00:21:14] Speaker C: I love it.
[00:21:15] Speaker B: Yeah, we're going to do good things around the community.
[00:21:18] Speaker C: Sounds good, but I mean, that's pretty.
[00:21:20] Speaker B: Much it for Browns news guys. That's what happened this week.
[00:21:22] Speaker C: That is it.
Outside the fact that they were at the combine and looking at players.
[00:21:27] Speaker B: Yeah, and we'll talk about that later in the show. But in other NFL news here, Chris Mortensen, longtime ESPN reporter for the NFL, died this week at age 72.
He had a battle with cancer, throat cancer, throat cancer, I think it was last year. He said he's taking some time off to focus on his family health and faith. And unfortunately, he did lose that battle to cancer this week.
[00:21:54] Speaker C: After a valiant know, it's one mean, a guy who has been an NFL reporter and kind of absolute legend, led the transition from paper journalism to tv journalism like we have today. We take for granted ESPN just same way we take like CNN for granted and Fox News like 24 hours news, 24 hours sports news. He was a pioneer in kind of being the face of that. Certainly the Mort report is something that I think everybody had kind of gotten accustomed to seeing weekly on sports center and things and what's also just like watching ESPN over the last 24 hours or so, just listening to the guys that knew him, worked with him. I mean, he just seemed to be a genuine guy that always was looking to help somebody and help others in their career, which is cool.
[00:22:43] Speaker B: Yeah. It truly is the end of an era because I just remember him and all the other guys growing up. They're all gone now.
Stuart Scott, there was like the four main guys that did, like, all the shows and they're all gone now.
[00:22:58] Speaker C: Yeah.
Truly an end of an era, but more was one of the good ones, for sure.
[00:23:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
Next up here, the NFL is pushing the NFL PA to expand the season to 18 games as early as this next season.
[00:23:11] Speaker C: I don't know why this hasn't been done yet. I don't know why it wasn't done the first time around. 17 games is an OD number for us.
[00:23:16] Speaker B: It seems like just like we're settling for this now, but we all know it's going to be 18 games eventually.
[00:23:20] Speaker C: It makes sense. People want more football. Get rid of a preseason game, go down to two. They don't play players in those games anyways. They don't matter or mean anything. People hate paying season ticket prices for those preseason games. Give them an extra game. We'll still another by week in there and stretch the season out as long as we can. 18 games seems like a fair final number. Like, I don't see a world where we're going to get to 20 or 22 games.
[00:23:45] Speaker B: That's a lot of games.
[00:23:45] Speaker C: The game is too demanding.
[00:23:47] Speaker B: Well, you start talking about just a calendar year. You only play one game a week and then you're starting to look like the NBA or like some of these other ones that people are just like, we don't watch half the games because.
[00:23:57] Speaker C: There'S too many, but 18 seems like a fair number.
All around the board is an even number, which makes things for scheduling a lot easier. 17 always was just kind of OD. So I would love to see this.
[00:24:09] Speaker B: Season get you ran into so many games, so many more OD tiebreaker things. I feel like with the OD number.
[00:24:15] Speaker C: It'S just a dumb season. It's a dumb thing to have. I don't know why I just wasn't moved to 18 to begin with.
[00:24:20] Speaker B: 18 just sounds so much better. Bone, what do you think? 1817? What do you like?
[00:24:24] Speaker D: I like 18, and I like the idea of the extra by week. I think that's something the players, I.
[00:24:29] Speaker C: Think you have to have the extra by.
[00:24:30] Speaker B: Yeah. As much as I don't like the idea of the extra by week because it's another week that, I mean, sucks having.
But yeah, the extra bye week is great for players. Like, imagine if the Browns had an extra bye week this last season with all the injuries and stuff.
[00:24:42] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Early buy is the worst.
So, yeah, 18 games, two buys.
I think, again, it's a fair number. It's a fair number for the.
Again. And this goes right along with Andrew Barry's ask to extend the trade deadline as well.
I think all those things should happen, and it should be done. This.
[00:25:07] Speaker B: Yeah. So next up here, the Broncos. Oh, boy, this one makes me so happy.
[00:25:12] Speaker C: Let's ride.
[00:25:13] Speaker B: Because I love talking about how washed Russell Wilson is. And the Broncos are officially set to cut ties with, you know, honestly, this is actually extremely relevant for Browns fans just because of the comparisons that can be drawn with Deshaun Watson's contract and Russell Wilson's contract and the fact that they were traded, both teams gave up a bunch of.
[00:25:33] Speaker C: I don't like that you're comparing this to the Deshaun Watson contract.
[00:25:37] Speaker B: But I'm just saying that's why. I'm just saying that's why it's relevant. But everybody likes to say the Browns made a terrible trade. I think we're in a little bit different situation. We're still trying to see what we have, which is an OD thing to say three years in, but that's where we're at.
But with the Broncos, they obviously saw what they had and moved on. And so this trade, legitimately, I mean, depending what happens with Deshaun Watson, I guess, will go down as, like, the worst trade in NFL history, given the fact that they cut ties with him now. Because in order to get Russell Wilson, the Broncos gave up two first round picks, two second round picks. Drew Locke, Noah Fant, 165,000,000 in guarantees to Russell, and they will officially eat $85 million in dead money when they cut him post June 1.
[00:26:30] Speaker C: They're cutting him sooner than that. They're cutting him in March before the.
[00:26:33] Speaker B: Well, regardless. $85 million dead money. Yeah.
[00:26:35] Speaker C: $85 million, Demi, that's the most dead money in the history of the league ever.
[00:26:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
Just wild.
[00:26:43] Speaker C: Terrible. I mean, I think the interesting thing is, at least going forward, I think it signals that the Broncos are definitely drafting a quarterback in the first round.
[00:26:52] Speaker B: Yeah, I would say so. The good news is they're far enough back. They'll probably dodge the bullet of Caleb Williams.
[00:26:57] Speaker C: I know.
[00:26:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:26:57] Speaker C: They're picking twelveth, so I know that they signed Jared Stidham to a two year deal. I think Sean Payton likes Stidham a little bit, but Stidham is just not an NFL starter, so they're going to have to get somebody. And it looks like there's three guys that are going to go early, right? Caleb Williams, Drake May, Jaden Daniels, or whoever from LSU.
[00:27:16] Speaker B: Can you imagine hating a quarterback so much that you literally just give up $85 million just to get rid of him?
[00:27:23] Speaker C: And, I mean, the thing is, the guys that are going to be available then at that, like ten to twelve pick from a quarterback standpoint are Bo Nicks from Oregon and JJ McCarthy from Michigan isn't.
[00:27:32] Speaker B: Bo Nick's like 30. Now. I don't know how old he's been in college football for like six years.
[00:27:38] Speaker C: But can you imagine? Is one of those guys really ready to lead a franchise?
[00:27:43] Speaker B: Bo Nicks is Brandon Whedon 2.0.
He's probably better than him. Brandon Whedon wasn't very athletic.
[00:27:49] Speaker C: Brandon Whedon was the worst draft pick in the history of the world.
[00:27:52] Speaker D: He's 24.
[00:27:55] Speaker B: He's not quite 27.
[00:27:59] Speaker C: I hope Brandon Whedon never ends up on a fan cruise because I just called him the worst brown strap.
[00:28:03] Speaker B: I guess I hope he does.
I'm actually going to put that name in the heads of the organizers for next year. You know who would be really good to have on here? It's Brandon Whedon. Fans loved him, especially this guy.
[00:28:13] Speaker D: You really sling it.
[00:28:17] Speaker C: I was just telling Ronnie I'd like to do like a brown segment of forgotten Browns. Where are they? With our luck, they'll end up on the right.
[00:28:26] Speaker B: Yeah, we probably should stay away from.
[00:28:27] Speaker D: Get beat up in the back room of a cruise ship.
[00:28:30] Speaker B: Yeah, we probably should stay away from that one for now.
[00:28:32] Speaker C: Yeah, probably.
[00:28:40] Speaker B: Also this week in the NFL, Jason Kelsey, during his retirement speech, finally retired. Finally retired. It's official. It's officially official.
[00:28:48] Speaker C: Official.
[00:28:49] Speaker B: Even though everybody knew, but it's official. During his retirement speech, he mentioned his hometown near Cleveland multiple times.
One of the quotes from it that I really liked growing up in Cleveland, I watched all my favorite athletes leave the city.
[00:29:03] Speaker C: You really like that one?
[00:29:04] Speaker B: No, just the fact that we feel that it was a moment where I was like, you really are from Cleveland.
[00:29:11] Speaker C: Fair enough.
[00:29:12] Speaker B: He said, I watched all my favorite athletes leave the city. And then he went on to say, hell, a whole team left the city. It's always been a goal of mine to play my whole career in one city, and I couldn't have dreamt of a better one or a better fit if I tried.
I can. Cleveland.
[00:29:27] Speaker C: Cleveland would have been good.
[00:29:29] Speaker B: But no, I mean, I understand.
[00:29:30] Speaker C: 13 years in all pro center, we could have used that.
[00:29:31] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, I understand what he said last time we had an all pro center for multiple years. We shipped them out of here. That's right. But no, I understand what he's saying as far as, like, I think it's really cool that he saw that happen to the Cleveland Browns, and it had a big impact on him to where he was. Like, I don't want to do that to whoever I end up with. I don't want to do that to my fans and whatever else.
[00:29:53] Speaker C: It's just something old school about a guy that respects and that cares about, that cares about playing in one town, one city, and having fans in one place.
[00:30:01] Speaker B: And I will say this is why Cleveland fans constantly celebrate the Kelsey's is because basically, every chance they get, they're given props to their hometown. They both talk about Cleveland all the time.
[00:30:12] Speaker C: Even their podcast is named kind of after new heights.
[00:30:15] Speaker B: Named after Cleveland Heights. Yeah.
And they still know and appreciate the Browns culture and history, as he mentioned here.
It kind of resonates with us that regardless of where you might move on to or where life might take you, I still have that soft spot there.
[00:30:35] Speaker C: For the Browns are the honorable Cleveland Browns.
Yeah, I think an honorary degree.
[00:30:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I think they kind of are. Name me more than a couple Browns fans. I feel like Browns fans that don't like the Kelsey's are just, like, nitpicking. They're just like, I don't like Travis Kelsey because he wins Super Bowls. I don't like Jason Kelsey because he wins Super Bowls. Which, I mean, fair.
[00:30:57] Speaker C: They're so good.
[00:30:58] Speaker B: But seriously, I don't really know any Browns fans are like, I just hate the Kelsey brothers.
[00:31:03] Speaker C: No, I mean, if you hate Travis Kelsey, you hate him because you have some weird animosity against Swift.
[00:31:08] Speaker B: Like, yeah, that's been going really. I still don't understand bringing dads and daughters.
[00:31:13] Speaker C: Like, these are two guys, two brothers that are from Cleveland, went to Cleveland high schools, ended up playing college ball at Cincinnati, still give a ton back.
[00:31:21] Speaker B: To the community, to their high school.
[00:31:23] Speaker C: And played in the NFL at the top of their. Yeah, for a long.
[00:31:28] Speaker B: Like, when everybody talks about NFL players and what they could be and what they could mean to their community, like, all that stuff, they should talk about the Kelsey brothers because one.
They're just great guys. I mean, like I said, we just talked about they give back to their community still here in northeast Ohio, they talk about us all the time. But on top of, like, they went from just like regular dudes. Have you seen the pictures from them at? Yeah, they just look like regular dudes that were going to be like nobodies.
[00:31:54] Speaker C: In the Chelsea is the sexiest man alive and Travis is dating Taylor Swift.
[00:32:00] Speaker B: Yeah. And they are arguably the greatest player of all time at their respected each of their positions. True. It's just wild. I love the Kelseys. Thought it was awesome to hear him talk about Cleveland so much.
[00:32:14] Speaker C: I'm excited to see what they do next because I believe that they'll come back to Cleveland in some form or fashion and do agree. So, I mean, Travis probably has a year or two, three if he really wants to stretch it of playing, depending on how the Chiefs continue to.
[00:32:27] Speaker B: I think he's out after next year, but that's just my own personal theory. We could talk about that, but in.
[00:32:31] Speaker C: The next five years, I would imagine they have some plans of whatever they want to do and I would imagine it wouldn't involve Cleveland in some way. So excited to see what they do.
[00:32:39] Speaker B: Bone, you like the Kelseys?
[00:32:41] Speaker D: Yeah, I like them. I got no problem with great, great football players. Hometown boys.
[00:32:46] Speaker C: Got no coral with the Kelsey.
[00:32:48] Speaker B: I got no coral with the Kelseys. All right, so the Jacksonville Jaguars wish defensive tackle folerenzo Fadacasi happy birthday. On Monday morning, team's official ex account went in, made him a graphic. It was real nice. They celebrated. Awesome.
Several hours later, the team released.
I don't know, maybe the front office should communicate with the social media department, be like, hey, guys, we're going to cut him today on his birthday, so don't think you should drop a happy.
[00:33:25] Speaker C: Birthday today feels real bad.
[00:33:26] Speaker B: Either that or, like, just wait a day. We'll cut him tomorrow.
Doesn't really hurt.
[00:33:31] Speaker C: The front office could have waited.
[00:33:33] Speaker B: Oh, it's his birthday. We'll cut him tomorrow.
[00:33:35] Speaker C: The league year hasn't started yet. There's no harm in waiting.
[00:33:37] Speaker B: So I don't know who it's worse on, the people running their social media or the front office. Probably front office fail on both parties. It's a bad job out of everybody.
It feels real bad for full of Runzo Vadaku.
[00:33:50] Speaker C: I mean, you feel like there has to be some kind of connection, like marketing has to talk to personnel with some level because we wouldn't wish Deshaun Watson a happy birthday. The day he was going to court.
[00:34:06] Speaker B: Unless it's just court day, happened to be his birthday.
[00:34:09] Speaker C: They have to have some kind of communication, right?
So whatever broke down in that loop feels bad.
[00:34:16] Speaker B: I mean, does this just go to show you how transactional the NFL is? It really is a business. Those coaches don't give a shit what.
[00:34:23] Speaker C: Birthday is bigger than the NFL.
[00:34:25] Speaker B: Right.
[00:34:25] Speaker C: It's just like big business in general.
[00:34:28] Speaker B: Don't get me started on big business. I can talk all day.
[00:34:31] Speaker C: We're all just pawns about big business.
[00:34:33] Speaker B: We are. And it's unfortunate. You're getting my blood boil.
[00:34:37] Speaker C: You put in hard work and 60 hours a week, and if you died tomorrow, they'd replace you in two weeks and wouldn't remember your name.
[00:34:44] Speaker B: You're really getting my dander up.
Not yet, anyways. Mike Evans, who I know was last week when I was out with streptococcus, it was bone man's pipe dream of a free agent. And bone man, sorry to burst your bubble, but Mike Evans has resigned with the Bucks. For two years. 52 million.
[00:35:04] Speaker D: He's off the table. I thought we were going to get him.
[00:35:06] Speaker B: Just a matter of. He's off the table.
[00:35:08] Speaker C: He was a pipe dream.
[00:35:09] Speaker B: Yeah, he was. Because I don't think we have $26 million a year to give.
[00:35:14] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:35:15] Speaker C: I mean, I'll say this. I think that's a pretty reasonable price for him. Smart move to go two years.
[00:35:20] Speaker B: Ten straight thousand yard seasons.
[00:35:22] Speaker C: Yeah.
If another team had overpaid from infrared agency, they probably would have paid close to 30 million a year. And you probably sign him to a three to five year deal. So the Bucks made out with a really nice deal getting him back for two years, assuming Baker is going to end up there again. So, big target for him coming into a new contract. But, yeah, I think that's a really team friendly deal. It feels like he took a kind of a hometown discount to stay.
[00:35:50] Speaker B: Yeah. And so congratulations. Mike Evans staying a buccaneer. Potentially retiring a buccaneer.
[00:35:58] Speaker C: He's the next Travis Kelsey.
[00:35:59] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll see.
I mean, that's pretty much it around the NFL, like, we know combine was the big news, which we'll talk about the draft stuff in the second half, the show. Besides that. Relatively quiet around the league.
[00:36:14] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:36:15] Speaker B: We'll move on to the WWE and WWE news right now. They are currently finalizing a deal for Cleveland Brown Stadium to host SummerSlam 2024. That's right. This summer, SummerSlam may be coming to Cleveland. What do you guys think?
[00:36:31] Speaker C: SummerSlam was the very first pay per view I ever ordered.
[00:36:34] Speaker B: Was it good?
[00:36:35] Speaker C: It was so good. And the theme song that year was how way to hell. It was great.
[00:36:41] Speaker B: Nice. Good choice.
[00:36:42] Speaker D: Is this, like, back when I used to watch?
[00:36:43] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[00:36:44] Speaker D: Okay. I kind of remember this.
[00:36:45] Speaker C: This is the very first pay per view we ever bought.
[00:36:48] Speaker B: Nice.
[00:36:49] Speaker D: We'd had, like, wrestling party nights.
[00:36:50] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[00:36:52] Speaker B: We had those all the way up till we were, like, in college.
It was usually.
[00:36:58] Speaker D: I kind of dropped off.
[00:36:59] Speaker B: Yeah, it was usually wrestlemania. It's entertaining stuff even now when it's become weird because it's like two day wrestlemanias now, which is OD. But wrestlemania is still pretty exciting.
[00:37:10] Speaker C: It's hard to have a party for two straight days.
[00:37:12] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know why they did that. I hope they go back to one.
[00:37:14] Speaker C: Day wrestlemania, wrestlemania, rave.
[00:37:16] Speaker B: They think they're the NFL, but they're not.
[00:37:19] Speaker C: It's pretty big business. I mean, look, this would be good for the city if they could get this.
[00:37:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I agree with that.
[00:37:26] Speaker C: But it begs the question, like, I remember years ago, Kenny Chesney had his tour stop at Cleveland Brown Stadium.
[00:37:33] Speaker B: I remember it well.
[00:37:38] Speaker C: I thought that was at the Indians field.
[00:37:40] Speaker B: No. Yeah. You're talking about, do we want to tell the fun story now?
[00:37:46] Speaker C: When he fell out of the.
[00:37:47] Speaker B: Yeah, so, no, that was at Florida Georgia line at Progressive Field. And it was the same day that the kid fell down.
Well, they found out later it was murder when he was thrown down the trash chute. It was that same concert. And I'll just tell a story real quick. So I was there with a bunch of our friends.
We were all drinking, but, I mean, I was fine. I wasn't hammer drunk like we tended to get at most of those contracts. I was like, sure, we're in downtown Cleveland.
I'm the one driving. I'm the one doing everything. I got to stay somewhat level, and so I was okay, but we were going down the steps. We were way up at the top because we're poor, and we're coming down the steps to. At the time, I was a single man, so we were trying to holler in a chick.
[00:38:35] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:38:35] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. I had enough in me to have some liquid courage and go talk to all the ladies. Sure. But anyways, I'm coming down the steps to follow one of our other friends to go talk to a group of ladies and up the steps on the same side. They're on the wrong side of the steps. First walks, it's divided in the middle by a railing. They're on the wrong side.
[00:38:53] Speaker C: You could follow traffic rules, right?
[00:38:55] Speaker B: They're on the wrong side. But anyways, it's a group of, like, five just hammered drunk dudes. Like, just frat boys, which is fine. I got nothing against frat boys, but you could tell how they were dressed. And I was like, oh, God, here we go. So I was like, I'm not dealing with the whole jostle back and forth between these guys. I just leaned back on the railing. I'm like, you guys go ahead. So 1234 go by. The fifth guy is the drunkest guy I've ever seen in my entire life. Literally, drunkest guy I've ever seen. And just completely falls into me, not prompted, like, there's nothing going on. And he just completely fell into me, hit my chest, and he was a big dude. And long story short, you went flying. Yeah. Like I said, I was leaning on the railing, so my feet came up off the ground, and I started sliding down the railing, and then my feet eventually went up over my head. I fell backwards over the railing and hit the arm of one of the upper bowl, or whatever you want to call it. Upper section seats in progressive field. If nobody knows the seats in progressive field. The arms are iron.
[00:40:01] Speaker C: They are. Yeah.
[00:40:02] Speaker B: And so I hit this thing, and just dead in the middle of my back, I was like, okay, that hurt real bad. So I got up. I was embarrassed, obviously. So I got up, and I'm like.
[00:40:11] Speaker C: Anytime you fall down the stairs, I was walking off.
[00:40:13] Speaker D: Anybody see that?
[00:40:14] Speaker B: Yeah, I kind of got up real fast. I ran over and sat with my friend, acted like nothing happened. He started talking to these girls, which his way of talking to girls was throwing popcorn at him.
And I sat there, and he looks over at me. He's like, you all right, man? I was like, something bad's happening.
And so I said, we got to find a medical tent real fast. We went to the medical tent. I collapsed. As I walked through the door, ended up being. They rushed me down, all the things on a gurney, into an ems, and I got in, they closed the doors. Friends riding in the front seat with me. And the last thing I remember is this lady's telling me, she's like, you got to stay with me. You got to stay with me. And I was like, this is it. It's over.
[00:40:58] Speaker C: Shadow time.
[00:41:00] Speaker B: I'm done. I'm going to die today. This is how it ends, really. I didn't even see the concert, but I ended up waking up on a bunch of painkillers, and I was fine, but I ended up. Puncture. I broke a rib. The rib broke. Punctured the liquid filled part of your lungs, put an air bubble in it. And I was in excruciating pain for quite a while. Every time I sneezed, I felt like I was going to die. That was a long story, but that's what happened.
[00:41:27] Speaker C: That was the day we almost lost Ronnie Jams.
[00:41:29] Speaker B: It was the day we almost lost Ronnie Jams. Where did we start with this?
[00:41:34] Speaker C: I was saying, I remember years ago, Kenny Chesney had blockbuster concert.
[00:41:37] Speaker B: I remember that one for a different reason, but not to do with me.
[00:41:40] Speaker C: The point of the conversation was, you have an open air stadium, and it's really only good for football, but you do have may through the end of August, really, before the stadium is used. It begs the question, like, why we don't do more of have you have this stadium there on the lakefront? It's a prime opportunity for events like the WWE to come in.
[00:42:04] Speaker B: Just put a cover over the stage in case it rains.
[00:42:07] Speaker C: Sure.
[00:42:07] Speaker B: I mean, fans will deal with rain. They don't care.
[00:42:10] Speaker C: I don't understand why we never, like. There wasn't more of that. It feels like other venues across the country get used for things, like.
[00:42:15] Speaker B: So it's funny you bring that up. So I kind of put in the notes here. Do you think this is anything to do with the current chess match between Brown's ownership in the city? Do you think the city reached out and was like, hey, why don't you have SummerSlam here? So they could be like, see, we use the stadium for other events besides just browns games.
[00:42:31] Speaker C: Or the Browns could be doing it to show how much money.
[00:42:34] Speaker B: Imagine being able to do Wrestlemania in the middle of March.
[00:42:38] Speaker C: Yeah. Imagine doing ten of these a year, whether it's concerts or whatever.
[00:42:44] Speaker B: That's true. Yeah. It could go either way.
[00:42:46] Speaker C: I mean, Taylor Swift sells out 100,000 seat stadiums.
[00:42:50] Speaker B: That's true. I just thought it was OD that this came up right in the middle of this whole back and forth between the. Because you're right, they don't host events very often.
And the Browns has announced the big concert with. Who the hell was it.
[00:43:06] Speaker C: Recently?
[00:43:07] Speaker B: Yeah, it's this summer concert.
[00:43:10] Speaker D: It's like an older band, isn't it? But popular in their own day.
[00:43:15] Speaker C: I don't remember Zeppelin.
[00:43:18] Speaker B: No, it wasn't Zeppelin. Go on, keep going, Kenny.
[00:43:21] Speaker C: Either way, I just think, again, it begs the question, like, why we don't do more of this with having this facility available, whether or not you can sell it out or not. You can still sell more tickets pride than people could fit in the queue.
So it just doesn't make any sense.
[00:43:35] Speaker B: Why we don't use the station this summer. The one I was talking about, they announced Billy Joel and Rod Stewart.
[00:43:38] Speaker C: Oh, Billy Joel.
[00:43:39] Speaker B: Yeah. But they also have the Rolling Stones playing there in 2024.
[00:43:45] Speaker C: But that should be like every other week downtown Cleveland. There should be like a huge concert coming through. Those guys. Every band does tours in the summer because it's nice. They should have big name bands in that place all summer long, but we don't. So hopefully we get SummerSlam.
[00:44:05] Speaker B: Yeah, hopefully we do.
In NBA news, LeBron James last real quick, too.
[00:44:11] Speaker C: SummerSlam would be big, too because the rock has come back. For those that maybe don't follow wrestling really closely, the rock has come back and is a part of a lengthy storyline that's going to probably be still going on with Cody Rhodes and roman reigns.
[00:44:26] Speaker B: What are your theories on this? Let's go ahead and jump into that real quick.
I know you followed enough to at least know the story.
[00:44:32] Speaker C: I just think there's a lot of interesting things happening because of the leadership in WWE at the know. Cody Rhodes had come back to WWE after being in AEW for a while and kind of setting the course for them.
And there was a big push, at least from the fans perspective, that it was Cody's time.
And then he was so over synchronized with that is then the rock kind of being appointed to fill like Vince McMahon's shoes as the head of WWE with their new ownership.
[00:45:08] Speaker B: That's a whole other thing. What do you think triple h feels about that? But anyways, and then all of a.
[00:45:12] Speaker C: Sudden the rock supplants Cody Rhodes in this Roman Reigns Cody Rhodes feud. And now it's all about the rock. And roman reigns are related, a part of the know wrestling family. So now it's all about the bloodline and who sits at the head of the table.
[00:45:28] Speaker B: Do you think the rock ultimately turns and he ends up, well, look, the.
[00:45:32] Speaker C: Rock'S at a point in his career where his job at this point when he shows he gets people over is to put other guys over. So I feel like at some point, on some level, this will help Cody Rhodes.
[00:45:43] Speaker B: This is my theory.
[00:45:44] Speaker C: But it was like the fan base wanted it now and then they didn't get it kind of happened.
[00:45:50] Speaker B: The reason this is what I think is going to happen, as you talked about the fan base wanting Cody Rhodes at the time, and he was never more over than he was at that point. He was so popular at that point, he was the face of the WWE. He still kind of is, but it's kind of dimmed a little. Well, I think they're going to build this storyline up and up and up and up and up, and Cody Rhodes at some point is going to end up being against the rock, not against.
[00:46:14] Speaker C: And it could be at SummerSlam.
[00:46:16] Speaker B: Yeah. And I think that's what, you know, we. Maybe we missed our opportunity, but the next best thing that we could do is put you over against the rock.
[00:46:24] Speaker C: Yeah.
Oh, I mean, if rock ends Roman.
[00:46:26] Speaker B: Because I think the rock ends Roman's thing because I think there's going to be some sort of turn. He might get disqualified and maybe not end it, but somehow it exchanges hands. I don't know. But have you noticed when they do the family thing, they all point the same way and the rock puts his hand up different?
And the rock, his entire career has been all about details and in storylines and stuff like that. He finds little things like that to.
[00:46:49] Speaker C: Like, I feel like the rock has to win outright because he's the like, if the rock wins outright against Roman Reigns and then Cody Rhodes beats the rock, you can't be more over than.
So that. Anyway, that'd be my short term prediction, but that may very well happen at SummerSlam, which would be huge.
[00:47:06] Speaker B: We really dove into WWE, huge WWE audience for that.
I actually apparently followed WWE more than I thought I did.
But anyways, from one goat to another, in NBA News, LeBron James hit 40,000 points last week. Just phenomenal, mammoth accomplishment. Just a kid from Akron out there doing big things.
[00:47:27] Speaker C: For all those people that want to say within the GoAt debate, like, well, Michael's got six titles.
LeBron's got 40,000 points. Now that goes up there. Now with LeBron's three titles and the fact that he did in three different cities, when you think about did it in three different cities, greatest of all time. Nobody's had that kind of longevity.
And at the age of almost 40, he's still putting up 25, 26 a night.
[00:47:53] Speaker B: Well, and everybody likes incredible to completely glass over the fact that the Golden State Warriors, a 73 win team, lost to LeBron and literally had to go get Katie in order to beat them the next year. Yeah. That, to me tells me you're the GOAT.
They were the best team in NBA history. The Cavs, led by LeBron, came back from a three one deficit and won in the finals. And then you had to go get Katie in order to beat him the next year. Come on.
[00:48:19] Speaker C: I hate to relive that whole LeBron experience. I love the championship, but it just feels bad because if the things that were going on at Golden State weren't going on there, this would have been.
[00:48:30] Speaker B: We would have won like four titles in a row.
[00:48:32] Speaker C: If Katie never went there, you'd have won the next year. They should have won the year before, but you had the injuries with.
I mean, that should have been a three or four peat for the Cavs.
[00:48:42] Speaker B: But they had a lot of bad luck.
[00:48:44] Speaker C: Ton of bad luck.
[00:48:45] Speaker B: And then Kyrie went off the deep.
[00:48:46] Speaker C: End, and then Katie going to Golden State just really screwed everything up. Yeah. And then Kyrie literally lost his mind.
[00:48:53] Speaker B: It's funny hearing him talk about it now because you can almost see and hear the remorse. Like, I didn't realize what I had going at that mean.
[00:49:01] Speaker C: Yeah, I don't know how you didn't, but he was a part of it. But, yeah, he thinks the world's flat. He's got to feel real dumb pretty much every day of his life now.
[00:49:11] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree.
[00:49:13] Speaker C: But 40,000 points, huge accomplishment, mammoth accomplishment. He's going to play probably another two, three years, and if he keeps playing above 20 a night, that number is going to be 43, 44,000, and it's just never going to be touched.
[00:49:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree. So we talked about two goats so far. We're going to talk about another one. Caitlin Clark became the all time NCAA leading scorer in basketball this past week.
[00:49:38] Speaker C: Look, I'm not going to pretend to be, like, a women's basketball super fan, but Kaylin Clark has got me watching.
[00:49:45] Speaker B: College.
[00:49:48] Speaker C: For the first.
[00:49:50] Speaker B: I watch highlights just to see what she did.
[00:49:52] Speaker C: I'm a transient basketball fan at best. Anyway, I kind of tune in and out of March madness a little bit, and I follow the NBA pretty closely. Transient human being, our old transient grandpa.
But for the first time, I'm invested now in watching women's college basketball, and she's phenomenal.
[00:50:14] Speaker B: It doesn't hurt that Ohio State's women's team is awesome.
[00:50:18] Speaker C: Also very good. I mean, the game that they just played was the most expensive tickets ever in the history of a women's basketball event.
[00:50:26] Speaker B: They were.
[00:50:26] Speaker C: The average ticket price is like $491. To get into that Ohio State game, who knows what happens? I mean, obviously, you get into March Madness in the tournament and anything can kind of happen. There's a very vocal minority of folks that say, like, if she doesn't win a championship, does any of this matter? And it's like, this girl's changed.
[00:50:50] Speaker B: I mean, it matters. She's got the most points in NCAA history. It matters.
[00:50:54] Speaker C: And her game should translate to the next level, because even though she's smaller in stature, like she's Steph Curry, she just shoots it from anywhere.
[00:51:02] Speaker B: That's all it is. Now.
I say that's all it is, but, I mean, it's a skill, and she's got it.
[00:51:08] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, she's just incredible. So fun to watch. I mean, she's putting up 35 points on a regular basis. She just is an absolute killer. All the things that you love about sports and the personalities and just the traits that we love in our favorite athletes, she has every one of them.
[00:51:26] Speaker B: I hope she's not an actual killer.
[00:51:28] Speaker C: No court.
[00:51:31] Speaker B: Okay?
[00:51:32] Speaker C: Sorry. And the risk of sounding a guy, she's not, like, bad on the eyes in a basketball jersey. She's all sweaty and hot. But you see her pictures of her outside of basketball. She's a nice looking girl, too.
[00:51:43] Speaker B: You had me worried there, because I'm listening to a podcast on Aaron Hernandez right now.
So I was like, oh, no, she's.
[00:51:51] Speaker C: Not an actual murderer. She's a murderer on the hardwood.
[00:51:55] Speaker B: Got it. You got to be more clear.
[00:51:56] Speaker C: It's a sniper, an assassin.
She hits it from deep, from long range.
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Guys.
Yeah, the fan cruise is almost.
[00:53:03] Speaker C: If you don't know what that is by now, you haven't been paying attention, because that is the official signal to remind you that the Cleveland Browns fan cruise is just four days away. That's right. Single digits for us. If you're listening to the podcast, watching the podcast for us, it starts tomorrow because we start our trek down to the port of Miami.
[00:53:21] Speaker B: That's right. Monday, Monday, Monday, Monday. We set sail for five unforgettable days at sea with 16 Cleveland Browns alumni. This is going to be dope ass.
[00:53:32] Speaker C: I was just checking the weather forecast.
[00:53:34] Speaker B: You sent it to us today. You said, just look at it.
[00:53:36] Speaker C: In Jamaica and in Nassau, glorious. Just eighty s and sunny.
[00:53:39] Speaker D: Glorious.
[00:53:40] Speaker C: Can't wait. It's funny, like, you look at the.
I didn't even send you guys the one from the Bahamas. But the high every day is like 79 and the low is like 76.
It's just like a constant 80 degrees every day, night, day, doesn't matter. It's just beautiful out.
Can't wait. Hopefully we don't end up with any weird weather on this thing, but all systems seem to go for now. It looks like it's going to be beautiful the whole time we're down there, but just cannot wait for five days at sea with my bros, bros, bros and my alumni.
[00:54:13] Speaker B: Hell yes. It's going to be so awesome.
[00:54:15] Speaker C: It's going to be a hell of a time.
[00:54:16] Speaker B: I can't wait, guys. You know what that takes us to.
[00:54:19] Speaker C: I wasn't done talking about the fan. You're still talking to us.
[00:54:22] Speaker B: Let's keep going.
[00:54:23] Speaker C: I was just going to say some programming notes. Oh, please.
[00:54:27] Speaker B: These are important.
[00:54:28] Speaker C: We don't know really what the Wi Fi situation is going to be.
[00:54:31] Speaker B: No, we're going to try and stream stuff.
[00:54:33] Speaker C: Our intent is to try and share as much of this maiden voyage on the Cleveland Browns fan cruise with you as humanly possible.
[00:54:41] Speaker B: It'll get out to you one way or another. If we can't get anything out to you while we're on the cruise, it'll.
[00:54:46] Speaker C: Definitely come out when we get back. But we'd like to try and share some of the moments and some of the cool things that we're doing while we're out.
So it's like having you with us.
[00:54:54] Speaker B: Yeah. If nothing else, we'll snap some pictures and hopefully those will.
[00:54:57] Speaker C: Yeah, we'll get some of those posted and then we will follow up, as we mentioned earlier in the show with our last show of this season period, which we'll just talk about the fan cruise and all the cool things that happen and kind of break that all down for you as well as covering any browns news.
But hopefully we'll have good enough Wi Fi that we can get some stuff out while we're there. Hopefully we'll do a little podcasting while we're there as well. We're definitely going to get tons of.
[00:55:21] Speaker B: Player interviews, I'll be honest.
[00:55:23] Speaker C: Fan interviews while we're there.
[00:55:24] Speaker B: It was explained to me by Kenny earlier today, that Wi Fi on cruises up until recently was completely non existent, and now it's slightly improved. So it's slightly improved from non existent. So, I mean, we'll see what we could do.
[00:55:40] Speaker C: Yeah, we'll see what we end up with. But like I said, our intent is to share as much as we can live while we're at it. And if not, we'll get it all out.
[00:55:47] Speaker B: Guys, this is all of our first cruise.
[00:55:49] Speaker D: Maybe you should reach out to Elon and see if you can send Starlink.
[00:55:52] Speaker C: That's actually what they said it was. The biggest improvement is Starlink. A lot of cruise lines have gone to Starlink, and that's made a huge difference in the ability to get some kind of Wi Fi on.
[00:56:02] Speaker B: Man, can you imagine when Starlink is, like, really up and running?
It's going to be wiggity. Yeah.
[00:56:08] Speaker C: I mean, it's going to control all the AI and it's going to end mankind.
[00:56:13] Speaker B: Elon's the guy.
[00:56:16] Speaker C: But anyways, that was my programming notes.
[00:56:19] Speaker B: So I guess now those are important.
[00:56:20] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:56:22] Speaker B: And now it's time for what gets your dander upload.
All right, everybody, so this is a segment where we like to vent about what's pissing us off in the world today.
[00:56:50] Speaker C: They said last week we don't have enough time to complain on this show. We needed to actually create a segment for us to complain about things.
[00:56:56] Speaker B: Yeah. So I'm going to start with Kenny. Kenny, what do you got for us today? What gets your dander up?
[00:57:00] Speaker C: What's been getting my dander up lately is today's commercials. And I'll explain.
Why are all the commercials on tv for big pharmaceutical companies?
Like, when I was growing up, so many. There was, like, cereal commercials or, like, super soaker commercials.
Even, like, cruise line commercials. Like, come join Royal Caribbean. I swear, 90% of the commercials that are on tv today are for trim, fire, Zizal, Jardians, Skyrizzy. Secondly, Skyrizzy and Jardians commercials with the music doesn't have to go that hard. It goes way too hard to like where I'm singing it. Nothing is everything.
[00:57:44] Speaker B: Don't advertise for them.
[00:57:45] Speaker C: I don't have Plaque psoriasis, but that song is stuck in my head all day long.
[00:57:49] Speaker B: You asked me earlier if I had plaque psoriasis because it's kyrizzy, and Jardians is just out there lowering your a.
[00:57:55] Speaker C: One c. But why is that every.
[00:57:57] Speaker B: You know, my favorite thing about pharmaceutical commercials is they always say, do you have moderate to severe plexoriasis yeah, that's how I explain it to everybody. Yes. Hey, just so you know, I have moderate to severe plexoriasis.
[00:58:09] Speaker C: That's what I'm saying. Why are we advertising this stuff? Because if you talk to doctors, not even about the commercials here, but if you talk to doctors, the one thing they all hate in common is the fact that we, WebMD, diagnose our everything. We walk into a doctor and we're like, I'm pretty sure I have bipolar or schizophrenia. And they're like, no, you have a peanut allergy.
We think because we can read WebMD that we can just diagnose ourselves with whatever we want. But doctors don't have time for that. They went to school for ten years not to have you come in and go, I think I need skyrizzy because I think I have moderate disappoint psoriasis. The doctor will diagnose you with that. And the doctors talk to these pharmaceutical companies every day. They know what's out there. You're not showing up at the doctor's office going like, did you hear about this new allergy drug?
[00:58:59] Speaker B: And they're probably so excited when you come in and say, I think I.
[00:59:01] Speaker C: Need skyrizzy, I want to know what the conversion rate of patients coming in saying, I think I need this new prescription pharmaceutical drug that I saw in between reruns of everybody loves Raymond. I think it's what they actually, the physician's like, you know what? Hadn't thought of that. Let's put you on and see how it goes.
[00:59:23] Speaker B: Let's try it out.
[00:59:24] Speaker C: Not to mention, every one of these drugs has side effects that include, like, severe diarrhea, bloody diarrhea and death. So what are we advertising here? Who's going to the doctor saying, like, I think I want slightly bloody diarrhea and maybe death because my black, potentially.
[00:59:40] Speaker B: Not my Severe black psoriasis.
[00:59:42] Speaker C: Is that bad? If you have severe plaque psoriasis, your doctor probably already had you on a regimen for something.
[00:59:47] Speaker B: Maybe it's skyrizzy.
[00:59:49] Speaker C: It might be skyrizzy, but I'm just like, why is that every commercial?
[00:59:54] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:59:54] Speaker C: Why are these the only companies that have money for marketing?
[00:59:56] Speaker B: That's fair. I agree. I see them all the time. I know exactly what you're talking. Which is funny, because I don't see my dandruff. I don't even see very many commercials because I'm mostly streaming everything.
The only thing that I really watch, like, live tv for where I see commercials is, like, browns games.
[01:00:10] Speaker C: Yeah. Like, sports in between every browns game is.
[01:00:13] Speaker B: You know what else I see them in? And there's a lot of them during this. My wife watches, like, bachelor and bachelorete, and I'm like, oh, God, there's so.
[01:00:20] Speaker C: Many commercials all there.
[01:00:22] Speaker B: Yeah. Feels bad, bone.
[01:00:25] Speaker D: I thought about this one long and hard, and I settled on a experience I had at Aldi twice in, like, the last month. Big Aldi shopper. I love it. So the Aldi cashiers, as you know, are the fastest cashiers in the world of all time. Yeah. They're so fast.
[01:00:39] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. You ever been there?
[01:00:41] Speaker C: I stopped shopping at Aldi.
[01:00:42] Speaker B: Yeah. You don't like Aldi because you have to brand everything.
[01:00:45] Speaker C: Brand and expired.
[01:00:46] Speaker B: You're weird. Expired food doesn't happen. That must have been anecdotal experience.
[01:00:51] Speaker D: I've never had that happen at Aldi.
[01:00:53] Speaker C: That was literally everything that we bought at Florida was expired.
[01:00:57] Speaker B: That's anecdotal, then, because that must have.
[01:00:59] Speaker C: Been that Aldi anecdotal every time I go there.
[01:01:01] Speaker B: No, I'm just saying we've shopped at Aldi for years. Besides, when we lived in Florida, apparently I never had expired food.
[01:01:09] Speaker D: Ohio Aldi's are awesome. They're fantastic.
[01:01:13] Speaker B: That's why I said that it's not.
[01:01:14] Speaker C: Look, I wouldn't shop at Aldi, but go on about your.
[01:01:18] Speaker D: You know, they took away all the people who check out your food, whatever, and they put most of them, the robot ones, in where you do it yourself.
So there's, like, six of those open, and there's only one cashier girl checking your food out, which she's so fast, and people just ignore her. And her tabletop there sits empty. And I walk up and I'm like, what in the hell are all these people doing? Don't they know how fast she is? And I'm like, you're wasting your time doing it yourself. First of all, she'll do it in half the time.
[01:01:46] Speaker C: They don't pay you for that, right?
[01:01:48] Speaker D: So, I mean, if there's an option, if there's a huge line for that girl, I'll go do it myself. Right. But I was a cash register person in my day, so I know what I'm doing a little bit.
[01:01:57] Speaker C: That's true. You got your starting grocery, didn't you?
[01:02:00] Speaker D: Yeah, exactly.
Dairy. Frozen.
[01:02:02] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:02:02] Speaker D: Cart pusher, whatever. Shout out to acme.
It gets my dander up when I see people ignoring that poor girl over there and her skills.
[01:02:13] Speaker B: That's fair.
[01:02:14] Speaker D: Yeah, that's fair.
[01:02:15] Speaker B: You guys want to know what gets my dander up?
[01:02:17] Speaker C: Yeah, I do want to know what.
[01:02:18] Speaker B: Gets your dander up, especially when you're in a hurry. But really, anytime you're getting ready to walk out the door, you're like, okay, we're good to go.
Forgot my wallet.
Okay, I got my wallet. We're good to go. Forgot my hat or whatever. Like anything. Literally anything. But when you forget that one tiny little thing, and then you're like, oh, shit, I got to go back in the house. It could be anything. It happens to me almost every time I leave the house.
[01:02:41] Speaker D: Have you ever been sitting in your car and you reach to put your key in and there's nothing in your hand?
[01:02:45] Speaker B: No, because my car doesn't push it.
[01:02:48] Speaker D: Or it tells you there's no key.
[01:02:49] Speaker B: Yeah, I've had that happen. But no, I mean, just forgetting anything because it's one of these things. Like, as I'm getting a little bit older, it's the first thing that's going. My wife's like, you forget everything. I'm like, son of a bitch. I am my mother's son. But anyways, it just really pisses me off. I get so mad. I'll be sitting in the car. I'll be like, why can't you just take inventory before you go? And this is more me. I get my own dandruff.
[01:03:15] Speaker C: This is no one else's fault. Besides you.
[01:03:17] Speaker B: 100% me. I need to play more of those games. And they're like, play this game and then you can have your memory back.
But no, it's me. I get my dander up because I can't remember shit.
[01:03:27] Speaker C: My wife forgot her wallet today.
[01:03:28] Speaker B: Actually. She actually did. That was what got me thinking about it, because I'm like, I've been there. Been there far too many times for me to. That's the worst, is when you actually leave the house and realize you forgot something.
[01:03:38] Speaker C: See, now you got. And you got me all hot and bothered now with my dander up. Because the thing that I am terrified of is forgetting something for the fan cruise.
[01:03:48] Speaker B: If we forget something, I'm blaming bone.
[01:03:50] Speaker C: And we're going to get on the boat and we're going to be like, who grabbed the. Oh, no.
[01:03:55] Speaker B: Nowhere to shop for.
[01:03:56] Speaker C: You can't just Amazon. It's the cruise ship.
[01:03:58] Speaker B: No, it's literally the only place in the world you can't Amazon.
[01:04:01] Speaker C: It's the only place we can't get anything.
[01:04:02] Speaker D: You know what I did read? You can bring drones on the ship.
On the ship.
[01:04:08] Speaker C: We looked into that, but the drones that we would need are roughly, like $3,000 bone.
[01:04:14] Speaker B: Don't give it away.
That's like something down the road for burning over sports.
[01:04:19] Speaker D: Okay.
[01:04:20] Speaker C: But they're just so expensive. And I was like, if redhead Ronnie Jams is flying our drone around on, like, it's going down in Jamaica and it gets lost in a tree, we spent $3,000 on it. I'm pissed.
[01:04:31] Speaker B: No, it wouldn't be in a tree in Jamaica. Mine would be like, we're flying it around on the cruise, and we're not supposed to. It's just lost in the ocean forever.
[01:04:39] Speaker C: Yeah.
They're also kind of dangerous. Remember who was the Indians pitcher?
[01:04:45] Speaker B: Cut his hand.
[01:04:45] Speaker C: Cut his whole hand. I mean, if you're not. If you don't.
[01:04:47] Speaker B: Trevor Bauer. But he's got all kinds of other problems.
[01:04:49] Speaker C: Yeah, we don't talk about him. But if you're not careful, you can really yourself up with this.
[01:04:54] Speaker B: It could get bad.
[01:04:55] Speaker C: It's a whole art to flying. It threw up a finger, especially flying it for video. It's one thing to just fly a drone around for fun, and it's another to try and capture an event. It's very difficult. So it's more money than we have right now to spend on a camera on a drone, but someday.
[01:05:13] Speaker B: Yeah. And so now that all of our dander is up, let's go ahead and get into the draft day dossier.
So you're telling me you don't like the name of this segment.
[01:05:31] Speaker C: I do. I'm just getting hungry. Let's wrap this sucker up.
[01:05:35] Speaker B: All right, well, we'll start this thing off with the browns area of need, and this will be quick. We're just going to go. This is our opinions. Some of these differ depending on which publication you're looking at or whatever, but in our opinion, this is how it goes. Number one wide receiver. We need wide receivers, guys. We got, like, none. You got Amari Cooper, and that's basically mean.
[01:05:55] Speaker C: It's actually kind of a crowded room because you have Elijah Moore there, and you have.
[01:05:59] Speaker B: You have a lot of guys that.
[01:06:00] Speaker C: Are like David Bell but backups. But are those guys good enough to be? And we saw once Amari got hurt at the end of the season, like, the depth that we had in terms of starting caliber players is not there. So while there are some names there, it's like they have to remake that wide receiver room.
[01:06:15] Speaker B: So, wide receiver. Number one, number two linebacker.
We talked in past episodes, simply the attrition.
[01:06:22] Speaker C: I mean, every one of your linebackers is a potential free agent. Anthony Walker with his injury history. S-I-G. Okay. Anthony Walker with his injury history. Jacob hills with injury history. I mean, they're going to be lucky to maybe get like Sioni Takitake back.
[01:06:35] Speaker B: Yeah. So linebacker number two. Number three is a tie between offensive line and defensive line, specifically defensive tackles.
I mean, we need both defensive tackles and defensive ends. But defensive tackle is a bigger need.
[01:06:48] Speaker C: And you need an interior offensive lineman because Dewan is going to come back and you have jed wills for now at the tackle. And we even have, what you call it, blanket on Jaron Christian as a left tackle. But Wyatt Teller is getting older, Joe Batonio is getting older. And you had some injuries at center last year.
[01:07:08] Speaker B: We don't know what Luke Whipler is going to do yet. He didn't playing time to really.
[01:07:12] Speaker C: So you really kind of need one of those guys that can play all three positions as like a depth piece going into this year.
[01:07:17] Speaker B: And then finally we round that out with. So this is technically a top five, even though I'm going to number four because there was a tie at three, but number four, running back, critical for.
[01:07:27] Speaker C: The beginning of the season because Nick Chubb's not going to be healthy.
[01:07:30] Speaker B: Yeah, we know that for sure. Nick Chubb will not be ready whether.
[01:07:32] Speaker C: He'S a brown or not. He won't be at the beginning of the season.
And then that begs the question, what do they do with Nick Chubb? Which we don't know. We expect him. He very possibly could be cut or traded. He could be cut and then resigned by the Browns at a lower number.
And you have Jerome Ford sitting there kind of as your starter from last year, which was a bit underwhelming. This to, you have to, you have to add something to that.
[01:07:57] Speaker B: Look, I know Jerome Ford is like a Cincinnati guy. He's like Ohio guy, but I've seen enough of Jerome Ford. I'll be honest with you.
[01:08:05] Speaker C: I just think he's very average.
[01:08:06] Speaker B: He is. He's very average and people like to point to his. He's got great pass catching. I don't even think he's got that great. He's an average pass catcher to me, too.
I've seen enough of him for.
[01:08:17] Speaker C: And the running backs, one of those positions that quarterbacks develop. Pass rushers develop moves, offensive linemen develop moves. Your running backs are kind of what they are.
[01:08:30] Speaker B: Well, you either have vision or you.
[01:08:31] Speaker C: Don'T have vision, largely about vision.
[01:08:34] Speaker B: You either know how to be patient and let the holes open up or you don't. Those are the two things. And that's probably the only thing you could work on is your patience.
[01:08:41] Speaker C: That and the fact that you have to have the physical ability, too. You have to be fast and strong.
[01:08:45] Speaker B: The only thing you could actually work on out of all that stuff is probably your patience.
[01:08:48] Speaker C: Well, it's the thing. Most backs, they don't go, like, training to say, like, I ran a four, four, seven last year, I'm going to run a four, three, five this year. That's just not how running backs train. So most running backs instead focus on things like balance and strength training, as opposed to speed anyway, because as you get older, you just have to be able to take hits and absorb those. So, yeah, running back is a definite area in need.
[01:09:13] Speaker B: You agree with all this, bone?
[01:09:15] Speaker D: Yeah, absolutely. Wide receiver, linebacker, I think would be huge to bring in a stud.
And then more depth on the O line, I think would be important. I think the playoff game, we were down two or three, and I think that really hurt as far as flacco and pressure and everything.
[01:09:33] Speaker B: And so the Browns draft selections in this one, obviously no first round draft pick, but they do have pick number 54 in the second round. So tail end of the second round, pick 85 in the third round, no picks in the fourth round, pick 134 from Carolina in the fifth round, pick 154 from Arizona in the fifth round, pick 204 from Houston in the 6th round, pick 207 from Baltimore in the 6th round, and pick 227 from Atlanta in the 7th round. So 1234-5767 picks in this one, including two in the top three in the first three rounds. So we're hoping to at least get some production out of this. I know a lot of them are lower round draft picks, and that's tough to get production year one, but hopefully they can hit on one of the guys in those first two picks.
[01:10:22] Speaker C: Well, and the thing is that this draft is considerably deep at positions like wide receiver, offensive line, and defensive line. So there should be guys available on day two and three that are going to be difference makers to any organization.
[01:10:37] Speaker B: Yeah. And so given the fact that the Browns don't know that first round draft pick, obviously we're going to skip over. We're not going to talk about a lot of these big name players that the Browns have no chance of getting because they also really don't have a lot to work with as far as trades.
I mean, I wouldn't put anything past Andrew Berry. He's done some magical things in the.
[01:10:55] Speaker C: Past, but I actually was just thinking this is that given the Deshaun situation, it wouldn't surprise me to see Andrew Berry do something crazy to move up if there was a guy they wanted.
Because it's win now, right? I mean, if Deshaun is bad again, this mean there's going to be hell to pay. They're going to have to do something.
[01:11:14] Speaker B: You'Re saying like a dynamic, whether it's.
[01:11:16] Speaker C: A wide receiver or running back, like a playmaker that they love.
[01:11:20] Speaker B: And at this point you literally have to sell the farm, though because.
[01:11:24] Speaker C: But I think that's the position you're in. Right? Because you're like, what can I give? I'll give you whatever you want. Regardless, we have to win.
[01:11:30] Speaker B: Regardless, though, for this segment, I think it's kind of we're playing what we got. Yeah, we're not going to talk about those guys because chances are they're not going to do that. They're going to stick with what they've got and they're going to roll the dice and hope they hit on somebody. So we're going to talk about guys that have been tied to the Browns so far in the position that they're in the draft and just highlight a few of those guys and make them known to you so that you get familiar. We're going to start this thing off with Xavier Leggett, wide receiver from South Carolina. He's six 1221 pounds, finished in the top ten and 40 for wide receivers at 4.39. So a quick guy. His vertical was 40 inches, which was 6th among wide receivers. And his final year at South Carolina, 71 receptions for 1255 yards and seven touchdowns and finally has a prospect grade of 6.17, which basically what that means is they have him grading out to be a good backup with potential to develop into a starter.
[01:12:34] Speaker C: Yeah, I think it's worth pointing out, too, as we go through these names, that range of grade is kind of what we're looking at, right. Because of the nature of our picks, we're looking at guys that are going to be picked day two.
[01:12:45] Speaker B: Almost all of them are going to be somewhere around that same.
[01:12:47] Speaker C: We don't have anybody. We don't have it as a for sure starter, day one starter because we.
[01:12:52] Speaker B: Just don't have a for sure potential Pro bowler. We don't have any of those.
[01:12:54] Speaker C: Yeah, those just their pipe dreams for us. I mean, sure, there's some guys you'd love to have, but we've tried to narrow this down to guys that are realistically on the Browns radar.
[01:13:06] Speaker B: Xavier Leggett's one to one to keep an eye out for. Tied to the Browns a few times, he was mid to late second round.
[01:13:13] Speaker C: He was impressive in the combine for sure. Just like physically, I think the knock on him is some of the fundamentals of the game. This guy's super athletic. He gets 50 50 balls. Sounds like his route running needs some work.
[01:13:31] Speaker B: Yeah. And I mean, the 50 50 balls is big, though, because we really don't.
[01:13:36] Speaker C: And Joker is really your only target for that, right?
[01:13:38] Speaker B: Yeah. And sometimes it's important to have that guy that you're at the end zone. We need to throw, like a fade in the corner of the end zone and see what happens.
[01:13:48] Speaker C: His kid's got ups, and he's fast, so he's somebody that certainly fits the bill of what the Browns would be looking.
[01:13:53] Speaker B: And that's something you can't coach a size. So, I mean, the fact that he's already that big and that fast, that's pretty impressive.
[01:13:59] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:14:01] Speaker B: Next up here, we got Chris Jenkins, DT, from Michigan. And I hate saying that because I hate Michigan. I don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan.
[01:14:08] Speaker C: I know this was one that I said popped up.
[01:14:10] Speaker B: Yeah. But six foot, 3299 pounds, pretty decent size. Finished in the top five for dts in the 40 at 4.91. Finished 6th among dts with an 83 athleticism score. He's noted as a strong run defender. 113 tackles in three seasons at Michigan. Four and a half sacks, fumble recovery and a pick his last season there, I think.
Or was that career? Either way, four and a half sacks, fumble recovery and a pick. And he has a 6.3 prospect grade, which is actually pretty high for where we're sitting. That grade. Starter is an eventual plus starter. Not just a starter. An eventual plus starter.
[01:14:52] Speaker C: The knock on him really is just his pass rushing pros. I mean, he's noted as a strong run defender, a guy that clocks up the middle. A little bit undersized for the position, but I'm okay with having an athletic DT. When you have Davin Tomlinson next to him, right?
[01:15:08] Speaker B: Yeah. It just eats everything up that comes up the middle.
[01:15:10] Speaker C: Yeah, eat everything.
[01:15:13] Speaker B: Now, as much as I hate the school, I don't hate this because he is somebody that's athletic there.
What he was known for is kind of wearing teams down over the course of a game. You mentioned he's a little bit undersized.
[01:15:29] Speaker C: Not for college.
Right.
[01:15:32] Speaker B: Not for college. But overall, he's a little bit undersized for his position. But what he does have is he's noted for his motor. He just keeps going and going and going, and by the end of the game you see him kind of chasing those quarterbacks down and getting home or at least disrupting plays. So don't hate this one. I hate that he's from Michigan, especially with them coming off a national championship.
[01:15:54] Speaker C: He's probably one of those guys, too, that I think he had a good combine, obviously.
I think that he's probably one of those guys that you may end up losing out on just because he's going to ascend on draft boards. So I think we don't pick till 54. It's very possible he could be a 30 to 50 guy.
[01:16:11] Speaker B: You like him? You like him, bone?
[01:16:14] Speaker D: I like him. I like the way you described him. Just high motor, wearing teams down, going to be in your face, stopping the run.
More depth on the d line. You can't go wrong with that.
[01:16:23] Speaker B: When those are the type of guys you want with depth, right? The guys that are like, yeah, I just keep it going the entire game. So when we need to give this guy a break, this guy comes in and he's just full go.
[01:16:33] Speaker C: And I always like getting linemen, whether it's offensive linemen or defensive linemen from top tier programs, right. Those guys aren't nobodies. Those guys get recruited and brought to those programs for a reason. They're taught by NFL guys that have NFL head coaching experience.
[01:16:49] Speaker B: The size difference between guys at top tier schools like you're talking about versus the smaller schools is typically drastic as well.
Yeah, the coaching and the size.
I like to stick with those big schools defensive line as well, and not the two nine.
[01:17:07] Speaker C: Nine is small. I think some of the things that they mentioned around his size were like his arm length and things weren't as he's not as long as players at his position. He's probably ten pounds shy of maybe the average for the position.
[01:17:18] Speaker B: But I'm saying you go to smaller schools and you see him. He's like a monster on that team.
[01:17:23] Speaker C: Yeah, there's defensive tackles at smaller schools that weigh in at 260.
[01:17:28] Speaker B: Next up here, another defensive tackle, Braden Fisk from Florida State. 64 292. Top five prospect grade among all DTs.
He had the fastest DT 40 time at four seven eight. He played four seasons at Western Michigan before he transferred and played his final season at Florida State. In that final season, he tied a career high with six sacks. He also added 43 tackles, nine tackles for loss, and he finished with a 6.28 prospect grade after the combine. So that grades out as an eventual average starter, which is also pretty high for this range.
[01:18:03] Speaker C: Yeah. Another guy with a high engine, quick feet, and was productive in the college game. So certainly somebody that would be an acid to the Browns.
[01:18:15] Speaker B: You know what's funny is looking at kind of the scouting reports on these guys, it didn't come up anywhere that this guy was small.
[01:18:23] Speaker C: He's seven pounds lighter, actually, if you go in depth, it actually says below average mass and length, but he makes up for it with his speed, so.
[01:18:33] Speaker B: That sound like the next level. But that was like the first thing they said about Chris Jenkins. So it was kind of OD.
[01:18:40] Speaker C: If you go through his weaknesses, it's like bigger linemen can stick to him. Gets overtaken by hand resets and things.
But again, Braden Fisk was the fastest in the 40 for his position group.
[01:18:52] Speaker B: There's one thing we love on this show, speed.
[01:18:56] Speaker C: It's actually funny you say that, because I was actually just thinking how overrated the 40 is.
[01:19:04] Speaker B: Not that kind of speed. I'm just talking like.
[01:19:07] Speaker C: I know, but I found this fascinating because the 40 is one of those things that is universally used as a metric for identifying talent. Right.
[01:19:19] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:19:21] Speaker C: If you go back, literally, listen to these names. Xavier worthy. That was this year, fastest all time.
[01:19:27] Speaker B: Talk about them momentarily.
[01:19:28] Speaker C: 4.21 seconds in the 40. John Ross. Kalon Barnes. Chris Johnson. Okay, maybe there's a name. DJ Turner II. Rick Woolen. Dre Archer. Henry Ruggs II.
[01:19:40] Speaker B: Dre Archer. Kent State guy. Okay.
[01:19:42] Speaker C: But did nothing in the NFL.
[01:19:43] Speaker B: True.
[01:19:43] Speaker C: Marquise Goodwin. Okay. Nate Wiggins. Taekwond Thornton. Jalen Muric. JJ Nelson. Jacoby Ford Javelin. Geidry. Zedrick Woods. Jacorian Bennett Jamal Dean. Darius Hayward. Bay Bellows Jones. Paris Campbell. Andy Isabella. Curtis Samuel Keith Marshall and Trey Waynes. Those are the fastest.
[01:20:00] Speaker B: Forty s. You literally only even in the know, I'm not saying know who they played for and some of their stats, like you only heard of, even have heard of like five of those guys.
[01:20:09] Speaker C: Yeah. Those are the fastest 40 times ever in combine history. All those names.
[01:20:14] Speaker D: Chris Johnson is the only one who did anything significant.
[01:20:16] Speaker C: Yeah. And he had really just that short period of time where he was really good. He had a 2000 yard year.
[01:20:22] Speaker B: Like I said, there was only probably three or four other guys that I even knew who they were.
Is one of those ones that nobody else knows who he is. Drea Archer just went to Kent State, so he was right down the street there.
[01:20:33] Speaker C: Like Paris Campbell, Curtis Samuel. Like we know them because they're at Ohio State. But if they went to Boise, we.
[01:20:39] Speaker B: Probably wouldn't even know who they are.
[01:20:41] Speaker C: Yeah, true. So, yeah, I mean, those are the fastest to ever do it, and hardly any of those guys have made a dent in the NFL.
[01:20:48] Speaker B: Right there. Should tell you what the 40 actually means.
[01:20:51] Speaker C: Should just tell you they shouldn't do it anymore.
[01:20:53] Speaker D: This dude's way too small. If the Browns draft him, I'll be upset.
[01:20:57] Speaker C: Which guy?
[01:20:58] Speaker B: Which guy?
[01:20:59] Speaker D: Xavier Worthy.
[01:21:03] Speaker B: We haven't made it to him yet. I was just complaining about mentioned him in the 40 time because the 40.
[01:21:08] Speaker C: Time because he was the fastest 40 yet.
[01:21:10] Speaker B: We'll get to him, though. I'll give you a whole minute.
We'll come back to the next guy and we'll go straight to Xavier Worthy, wide receiver from Texas, 511, 165 pounds. Yeah, he's tiny. Fastest 40 at the combine ever at 4.21. Three seasons at Texas, he has 197 receptions, 2755 yards and 26 touchdowns. So he actually was pretty productive.
[01:21:36] Speaker C: Very productive.
[01:21:38] Speaker B: May have pushed him out of the Browns range, though, with his 40 time, because we all know how overvalued 40 times are now. Right? And so that might be a good thing for the Browns to maybe avoid a bust, but 6.16 prospect grade, that is equivalent to a good backup with potential to develop into a starter. So even they don't think he's a starter or anything.
[01:21:57] Speaker C: Right. It's purely speed here with this guy. Right? I mean, productive college bone, what's your.
[01:22:03] Speaker B: Take on this guy? I would like to know.
[01:22:05] Speaker D: He's too small. If the Browns draft him, I'll be good.
[01:22:08] Speaker B: Very good.
[01:22:09] Speaker C: He's very, very small, but he is a guy that can stretch the field, which is an area the Browns have struggled with.
[01:22:16] Speaker B: Now, Marquise Goodwin is probably going to be gone because he's 30 now, so 31.
[01:22:20] Speaker C: I think to me he's like the next Marquise Goodwin, right? He's one of those guys that you.
[01:22:26] Speaker B: Draft him as a literally go run as fast as you can.
[01:22:28] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, he runs five fades a game, and it's just purely to keep the defense off balance.
[01:22:34] Speaker B: I hope to God we got a good wide receivers coach, because how do you get off of Denzel Ward across from you in tight man coverage?
What are you going to do when.
[01:22:45] Speaker C: You'Re the size of a big girl?
[01:22:48] Speaker D: Does this guy return punts?
[01:22:51] Speaker C: I think he is listed as, like a receiver kick returner as well. So that's another reason why they might be having to look at him.
[01:22:59] Speaker B: It's not even like a big one.
[01:23:04] Speaker C: Average. It's a large sized woman. I don't know.
[01:23:08] Speaker B: That's like normal.
[01:23:09] Speaker C: I mean, there's not a lot of women run around. They're 511.
[01:23:13] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, that part of it, yeah. I thought you were talking about him throwing his weight around at 165. I was like, that's not even that big.
[01:23:20] Speaker C: It's like an average tall girl.
[01:23:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:23:23] Speaker C: Does an average tall girl play in the NFL?
[01:23:25] Speaker B: No.
[01:23:26] Speaker C: That was my point.
[01:23:27] Speaker B: Yeah, that's fair.
[01:23:29] Speaker C: Nothing against girls.
They're big enough. They could play. But I don't know, I just wasn't.
[01:23:34] Speaker B: Looking at the 511 part. I was like, 165 is like a normal girl.
511 is tall for a lady, anyways.
[01:23:42] Speaker C: But incredibly fast and incredibly productive at a top school. I mean, Texas is not the worst school in the country.
There's some potential.
[01:23:52] Speaker B: I bet Eric Metcalf's pulling for him to be drafted by the Browns.
[01:23:55] Speaker C: Absolutely.
Yeah. We'll see what happens there.
[01:24:00] Speaker B: All right, so since we skipped over him, we'll come back to him. Peyton Wilson is the last guy here. Linebacker out of NC State. Six, 4233 pounds. Fastest 40 among linebackers at a four, four, three. Played five seasons at NC State. Two of five of those seasons, he had over 100 tackles, 138 tackles his senior season, six sacks, six pass defense, one forced fumble, two fumble recoveries, three interceptions and one touchdown in his career. So that's probably the highlight of his life, is getting that one touchdown.
[01:24:30] Speaker C: I mean, it's amazing with his measurables, his production that he's not getting looked at more that they have him listed as a good backup potential.
[01:24:40] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. 6.16 prospect grade, which is good backup potential development.
[01:24:45] Speaker C: To me, this kid looks like would be amazing to pair with J-O-K. The speed and the productivity.
[01:24:52] Speaker B: Hell, they would be flying around doing. Can you imagine Jim Schwartz, like, swarming defense with these two?
[01:24:56] Speaker C: You can put either one of those guys anywhere on the field and they're going to make a play.
[01:24:59] Speaker D: He's actually size is, I mean, a six four inside linebacker.
[01:25:03] Speaker B: I think that's a little bit bigger than J. Okay. Is even.
[01:25:06] Speaker D: I believe so.
[01:25:08] Speaker C: J-O-K is light a frame for being a linebacker.
[01:25:12] Speaker B: I mean, 233, he's got some heft.
[01:25:14] Speaker C: 233 is not bad.
[01:25:15] Speaker D: That's like.
[01:25:15] Speaker B: I know.
[01:25:15] Speaker D: J-O-K added some mass this year. He seemed significantly bigger than we drafted.
[01:25:19] Speaker B: Yeah, but I mean, yeah, those two guys together would be dangerous.
[01:25:24] Speaker C: And I mean, 138 tackles, that's a try hard guy. That's not a guy. That's just showing up to be there.
[01:25:32] Speaker B: Yeah. I like this one for them because I think that's a guy that could be a sneaky. Like, I don't know how up to.
[01:25:39] Speaker D: Date this is, but they have j okay at six. 2221.
[01:25:44] Speaker B: This guy paired with J okay could be pretty exciting.
Bones throwing things over there.
[01:25:50] Speaker C: He's pissed.
[01:25:53] Speaker B: That's all the draft.
[01:25:54] Speaker C: I think he's a really intriguing one.
[01:25:56] Speaker B: Yeah, that's all the draft prospects that have been like, I've seen these names come up multiple times, and that's why we put them in this list here. But a couple of honorable mentions that I've seen here and there. Kieran.
Kieran Tamagotchi, left tackle from Yale. The athletic has him as the most interesting prospect in the draft, for whatever that's worth. Don't know what that means even he's there. He's six. 5326.
[01:26:23] Speaker C: I think they had made mention about the fact that he had the athletic ability to go anywhere, and he went to Yale, and there was some other weird stuff. But anyway, six. 5326. Great size for a left tackle.
[01:26:35] Speaker B: In the end, he's still where we all thought he'd be.
[01:26:39] Speaker C: Looks like a guy that would fit in on this line.
[01:26:42] Speaker B: Next up here, Ray Davis, running back from Kentucky. Five. 8211, a four, 5240, and a 6.14 prospect. Grade again, good backup with potential to develop into a starter. So we're going to be hunting for running backs.
[01:26:55] Speaker C: Yeah. He was productive at Kentucky as mean.
[01:27:01] Speaker B: You hate Kentucky, though.
[01:27:02] Speaker C: I love Kentucky. Tim couch went to Kentucky.
[01:27:05] Speaker B: Oh, the school. You like the school.
[01:27:06] Speaker C: I hate the state.
[01:27:07] Speaker B: Yeah, that's true.
[01:27:09] Speaker C: Cincinnati south.
[01:27:10] Speaker B: Yeah. I disagree with you because Kentucky is where all the bourbon comes from, or most of it, at least, and I like that.
[01:27:16] Speaker C: But I'm five years sober.
[01:27:18] Speaker B: No, you're not. That's not a fact. You can't say that because there's people that actually are five years sober. What's wrong with you?
[01:27:24] Speaker C: I take it back.
[01:27:26] Speaker B: Come on, man.
[01:27:29] Speaker C: Tommy Eichenberg.
[01:27:32] Speaker B: I like this name.
[01:27:33] Speaker C: There's a name?
[01:27:34] Speaker B: Yeah. Tommy Eichenberg. Linebacker, Ohio State. Six. 2239, St. Ignatius grad. So he's a home.
[01:27:40] Speaker D: Bring him home.
[01:27:41] Speaker B: Yeah, we saw him make plenty of plays at Ohio State. I'm sure a bunch of people that watch high school football up in Cleveland saw him make a ton of plays at Stnatius. This could be like the Ronnie Hickman type impact from last year. Obviously, Ronnie Hickman ended up being an undrafted free agent, but he was somebody that everybody kind of glanced over. Ronie Hickman had a big preseason, but then he kind of fell off because everybody was healthy at the beginning of the season and playing, but when Ronnie Hickman got into the end of the year, he produced and he played well.
[01:28:10] Speaker C: Yeah, look, I think he's a good one. Another one that I know is not on our list that I would also throw in here that I've seen tied to the Browns even, is steel chambers from Ohio State.
[01:28:21] Speaker B: Great name.
[01:28:22] Speaker C: Six, 1226. This is the kid that played linebacker for us last year, but was a running back prior to and then turned linebacker.
[01:28:29] Speaker B: Phenomenal name.
[01:28:30] Speaker C: Tremendous athleticism.
[01:28:32] Speaker B: Great name.
[01:28:33] Speaker C: Noticeable football.
[01:28:34] Speaker B: Great name.
[01:28:35] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, my favorite name in this draft is Koolaid McKintrick. I don't know that he's going to fall to us.
[01:28:40] Speaker B: We ain't going to get Kool Aid.
[01:28:41] Speaker C: But we're gonna get Steele Chambers. I mean, that would be a cool jersey to have. Actually, I'm Steele Chambers.
[01:28:46] Speaker B: Yeah, that's good.
[01:28:47] Speaker C: He's got good hair, too.
[01:28:49] Speaker B: So I like both those. Those are both interesting ones. Next one up here. You have any more on those two?
[01:28:54] Speaker C: No.
[01:28:55] Speaker B: Jalex Hunt, which I already don't like his name, but that's neither here nor there. I'm not a big fan of adding a random letter on the front of an already existing name and just be like, new name.
But anyways, Jalex Hunt. Ed Rusher. You're over here talking about people being sober, and I'm over here just making fun of people's names. So we're canceled after today, but Ed rusher from Houston Christian University, which this part is really cool because he ran a 4.64 40. He's got a 5.97 prospect grade, which is average backup. They're special teamer. And this guy, he was on nobody's radar, literally nobody's radar, but had a very strong senior bowl, a very strong combine, put up great numbers, and now people are taking notice, and he would be the first player in his school's history to be drafted, which would be awesome.
[01:29:43] Speaker C: Yeah, he loves stories like that. I mean, that's a kid that kind of comes out of nowhere, and all of a sudden you're looking at maybe having an NFL dream. Awesome.
[01:29:52] Speaker B: That is mean. That'll wrap up all the players that we have kind of tied to the Browns. But I do want to get into our biggest kind of draft pipe dreams and talk about who we really want to see the Browns draft.
So, yeah, I want to preface this part of the segment here by saying these have to be realistic.
We're not going out here picking Marvin Harrison Jr. Thinking that that's our biggest draft pipe dream, even though it is because we know there's probably no way the Browns are getting Marvin Harrison, Jr. Love.
I would get his jersey the day he was signed.
[01:30:32] Speaker C: Marvin Harrison Jr. Is my wet dream.
[01:30:34] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, that would be phenomenal. Ferrari, his father, Marvin Harrison, was actually my favorite all time receiver in the NFL.
[01:30:43] Speaker C: It's a good.
[01:30:47] Speaker B: I mean, I would love to have Marvin Harrison Jr. Too, but he doesn't make the list because there's no way the Browns are getting agreed he's going.
[01:30:53] Speaker C: To go fourth or fifth, probably.
[01:30:54] Speaker B: Right. And so instead, we're looking at something that would make sense for the Browns that maybe in that mid to late second round again.
[01:31:02] Speaker C: Days two and three.
[01:31:03] Speaker B: Yeah. Or even like a third round or a late flyer guy that you would want to know something like that.
[01:31:08] Speaker C: There's good names to be had in the second and third round.
[01:31:10] Speaker B: Right? The guys, like I said, even later than that with tons of upside, you just don't know what you're getting.
I'll go ahead and start this thing. I'm going to start with. I like Keon Coleman from Florida State.
Dude, six, 4215 pounds. He did run a little bit of a slower 40 time at four six two. But as you mentioned earlier, the 40 time doesn't necessarily mean anything.
One thing that he did have, as far as speed goes, though, he did have the fastest top speed in the gauntlet drill. So I kind of look at that as like, maybe he's got football speed.
You guys both know what I'm talking about when I say football speed. Maybe he's got football speed, but not necessarily straight line, just 40 time speed.
[01:31:53] Speaker C: That gauntlet drill is what got puka drafted.
[01:31:55] Speaker B: Yeah. And we all saw how that turned out.
He was originally slated to go kind of before we would have a chance to get him, but that 40 time may drop him far enough to where he's in our range. Dude's got excellent ball skills, tough to defend in the red zone, great at getting separation with his size, excellent ability to track the ball at its highest point, and a very low drop rate at just 3.8%, which as a team, I don't know if you guys know, the Browns last year had it. Yeah, they had trouble catching the ball. It was pretty high. It was up there at 6.7. So somebody that is real sure handed is somebody who could come in handy for the brown. Get it handy for the Browns this season given handies. Yeah. And so for me, it's Keon Coleman out of Florida State, wide receiver out of Florida State.
[01:32:40] Speaker C: Excellent. Kenny, who you got?
I'm going to preface this by saying I didn't understand the assignment. I thought I was just picking a bunch of guys that I liked in the combine that I thought would be potentially there when the Browns pick and potential fits for them. So I'm going to run through mine a little more quickly because I have several.
My first is Tanner Bordelini, center, Wisconsin, 6430.
Love, love.
A big man coming out of a school, especially like Wisconsin, which is just an offensive lineman factory.
[01:33:14] Speaker B: Great. You want him to supplant the Ohio State? I mean, I guess if he's better, I don't really care.
[01:33:19] Speaker C: Well, look, I'm just saying, you never know who's going to be there. So this is one of those guys that's fair.
[01:33:23] Speaker B: I mean, take who's the best, you.
[01:33:26] Speaker C: Know, I thought was impressive in the combine. And the thing is with Tanner, he has that flexibility to play center and guard. He's got good size, and I just think that he's somebody that fits what the Browns are doing.
Another name I have here, I'm going to save this one because that's going to be a late round pick anyway.
This is my wet dream.
If I could have anybody, he may end up going earlier than the Browns can get there, but lad McConky, wide receiver, Georgia. Smaller guy, six, 8180.
Smaller guy, six eight, six foot, 186. Sorry.
[01:34:10] Speaker B: Holy hell.
[01:34:11] Speaker C: Misspoke there. Ran four three nine in the 40, and this guy's change of direction is unbelievable.
[01:34:19] Speaker B: Next level.
[01:34:22] Speaker C: Like I said, he'll probably end up going before 50 before we can get to him because he was.
[01:34:27] Speaker B: But maybe this is what you were talking about. Maybe we don't make a move into the mid first round. Maybe you at least stretch a little bit up to like 37 picks, right?
[01:34:36] Speaker C: If they trade one of those fifth rounders, maybe you get up to like.
[01:34:38] Speaker B: 35 and say, we need this guy.
[01:34:40] Speaker C: This is a guy that's an absolute game breaker and a game changer I think would be awesome to have.
In that same vein.
Luke McCaffrey. Yes, that McCaffrey. Christian McCaffrey's brother, six, 2198.
[01:34:55] Speaker B: Is he also a running back?
[01:34:56] Speaker C: Wide receiver at Rice?
[01:34:57] Speaker B: W receiver.
[01:34:58] Speaker C: Just based on genetics alone, I would.
[01:35:00] Speaker B: Draft this guy fair.
I have no argument.
[01:35:03] Speaker C: He can't be bad. He ran four four six in the 40, which is faster than still athletic, which is faster than Christian McCaffrey ran his.
[01:35:11] Speaker B: Did he do the bench press?
[01:35:13] Speaker C: He did not do the bench press. That was the only thing he did not partake in 36.
[01:35:17] Speaker B: Hang on. Real quick. 36 inch vertical. Since I mentioned the bench press, I just want to take a moment to remember the year that Jay Cutler, who ended up with a long career with the Bears before it all fell apart. Jay Cutler, the year that he was coming into the draft. Quarterbacks don't do the bench press, but he just volunteered. And then he threw up 23 reps at 225 a day, where he was like, yeah, okay.
[01:35:41] Speaker C: Jay Cutler is a living legend. Yeah, dude.
[01:35:43] Speaker B: Dude was phenomenal. He had the best interviews. Best. He was just so funny. But anyways, go on.
[01:35:48] Speaker C: But anyways, he's bigger and faster than his brother, so he went to rice.
[01:35:55] Speaker B: I'm sold. We should draft him. Number one overall.
[01:35:58] Speaker C: Agree.
[01:35:59] Speaker D: I like it.
[01:36:00] Speaker C: And he's somebody. I mean, his prospect grade is only.
[01:36:02] Speaker B: 5.96, and he doesn't play running back, so we don't have to get rid of Nick Chubb.
[01:36:07] Speaker C: Yeah, he's in everything.
[01:36:08] Speaker B: I love it.
[01:36:08] Speaker C: But his prospect grade is only 5.96. He's going to be one of those guys that's around in the later rounds. Yeah, she's listed as an average backup special teamer. I like it, but genetics alone tells me, like, if you give this kid a chance, he'll probably be worth it.
[01:36:21] Speaker B: I'm in.
I've never been sold so hard on a late round draft.
[01:36:25] Speaker C: Steel chambers, we already talked about, and this was another interesting one that was actually tied to the Browns that we didn't mention already. Notre Dame running back Audrick estimate. What I heard was that the Browns front office said, I want somebody that looks like Miles Garrett but plays running back.
[01:36:43] Speaker B: Bam.
[01:36:44] Speaker C: That's the guy that they went to see. 511 221. He's described as a thickly muscled runner.
He only ran four seven in the 40, which was the slowest out of all the running backs participating in the combine. So he's a fullback, but he apparently is just a tank. Beast of a man.
[01:37:04] Speaker B: We already talked about tanks on this episode. He's a tank.
[01:37:06] Speaker C: He's an absolute tank. So I think it would be dope to have, like, a Brandon Jacobs size. Just like Jerome Vettis, big, beastly man.
[01:37:15] Speaker B: Like, we get down to the one, instead of QB sneaking, we just put this guy, and you're like, go. Just run through a wall. Just get in there.
[01:37:22] Speaker C: Like this guy. When you see him, it's like DK Metcalf.
[01:37:26] Speaker B: If he tried to go up over the top, it's a literal torpedo.
[01:37:30] Speaker C: Absolute specimen. 38 inch vertical jump for a guy that weighs 221.
[01:37:36] Speaker B: Remember, some strong legs.
[01:37:38] Speaker C: So, yeah, he put up 23 on the bench press like Jay Cutler.
[01:37:44] Speaker B: I just want to stop right there and say this guy who you're talking about is a physical specimen. Put up 23 reps. Jay Cutler. That Jay Cutler from the Bears put up. Not Jay Cutler the bodybuilder. Jay Cutler from the Bears put up 23 reps at 225.
[01:37:59] Speaker C: That's right. Go on. And then my final interesting prospect here that I have is running back Frank Gore Jr.
[01:38:10] Speaker B: One of the most productive running backs of all time.
[01:38:12] Speaker C: Genetics alone. Tell me you can't miss here.
This has enlisted at 510, 201. I think he's actually five. 8201. I think he's a little more like a bowling ball. I think this is wrong. So anyway, just stout, productive runner, played southern myths.
[01:38:30] Speaker D: He's got to be just like a tough, hard nosed dude.
[01:38:34] Speaker C: Just know that his dad wasn't raising no weenie. Right.
This kid's going to play.
[01:38:40] Speaker B: All you do is work out your whole life.
[01:38:42] Speaker C: But the fact that he was ranked out of all the running backs, like 19th out of like 21 running backs, tells me he'll be available in later rounds.
[01:38:51] Speaker B: Wasn't Frank Gore a later. Was he a high draft picker? Was he like a third, 4th rounder?
[01:38:57] Speaker C: I would have to look that up. I don't know.
Frank Gore. The only thing is Frank Gore Jr. Did not run the 40. So we don't really have a look at his speed, but he can't be that slow. He's Frank Gore's son and he's five 8200 pounds. So I think he's another intriguing option that, I mean, hell, he could be Nick Chubby or a parent that you might steal in the later round.
[01:39:20] Speaker D: He's a third round pick.
[01:39:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:39:22] Speaker D: So Frank Gore, 49 ers.
[01:39:23] Speaker B: Yeah. Frank Gore wasn't like a high draft pick by any means. No, but he was one of the most productive running backs in NFL history for sure.
Are those your guys? So basically you're telling us anybody we take in the draft should be happy with.
[01:39:36] Speaker C: It's got to be one of them.
[01:39:37] Speaker B: It's got to be anybody we take. Kenny's okay with it.
[01:39:40] Speaker C: Any of those guys? Look again, my wet.
[01:39:43] Speaker B: Except for that super fast receiver, he's too small.
[01:39:45] Speaker C: My wet dream here is Lad McConkey. I think he's the biggest game changer out of all these guys. I think he's a day one starter on this browns team. I've heard him compared to Elijah Moore in terms of his ability to play the slot. And I've also heard him compared to Antonio Brown in terms of just his athleticism and way to change direction, bro.
[01:40:03] Speaker B: Lad McConky is so excited that he's your wet dream.
[01:40:06] Speaker C: Yeah. And his name is lad. Like, that's a dope name.
[01:40:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:40:09] Speaker C: I don't know what it's sure for.
[01:40:10] Speaker B: But fair lady, speaking of wet dreams, bone, who do you have for your pipe dreamer? Wet dream, as Kenny calls it, nocturnal emissions here.
[01:40:21] Speaker D: I do feel they're going to go wide receiver, but I have an inside linebacker, Edgar and Cooper. He's 63, 230 pounds, played at Texas A and M. Okay. He was a consensus all american, highest graded inside linebacker at the combine, 4.51 in the 40 yard dash. He had 17 tackles for a loss, 84 total tackles, eight sacks, two force fumbles. He says he models his game after Fred Warner.
[01:40:44] Speaker C: Love it.
[01:40:44] Speaker D: And they pretty much have the exact same body size.
[01:40:47] Speaker B: Warner is pretty good.
[01:40:49] Speaker D: The only problem is I have read that the Cowboys and the Steelers are talking to him. So if the Steelers are talking to him, I'm like, he's a badass linebacker. Because that's what they do. They take good linebackers.
[01:41:00] Speaker C: That sounds like a guy that the Steelers would draft.
[01:41:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:41:03] Speaker D: So I don't think he'll be there at 54, but it's a stretch.
[01:41:07] Speaker B: It could be a little bit of a stretch. It's not like.
[01:41:09] Speaker D: And the Browns taking an inside linebacker with their first pick in the second round, if he's Fred Warner, yeah, I would be pumped. I'd be so excited.
[01:41:17] Speaker B: Well, it goes back to what we said before. I said it about, what's the dude's name? Peyton Wilson from NC State. Like, imagine that guy, jlk, the damage they could different.
Like makes and different, but still, I mean, a fast guy, a big, like, you could wreak havoc back there.
[01:41:36] Speaker C: Yeah. All in all, I think it's a really interesting draft class. I think the browns can do talent there. There's talent to be had out here even in the later rounds.
[01:41:44] Speaker B: We just don't have a lot of draft picks in the first three rounds. We've got to be very selective and very careful with who we're taking. But the thing is, you don't take with question marks. That's like, we don't know about his work ethic. Like, don't take that guy in this.
[01:41:58] Speaker C: But if you can come out of this with a guy like this, Adrian Cooper, or the linebacker from NC State that we talked about, Peyton Wilson, I mean, if you can come out of that with a starter and maybe a couple of guys that are on the cusp of, like, this could develop into a starter. You've done pretty well.
[01:42:15] Speaker D: And just the way the draft goes, sometimes people fall. I remember we got jlk with our second pick, right? And I couldn't believe he was still there. They didn't pick him with the one before it. And I was like, he's still there.
[01:42:26] Speaker C: Yeah. Big name played for.
[01:42:27] Speaker D: And then they waited and got know with that second.
[01:42:30] Speaker C: So maybe Kool Aid McKinrick will fall to us.
[01:42:34] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. I just want to say that because Bone said it earlier.
As soon as he's drafted, we're definitely putting a Kool Aid meme up.
[01:42:41] Speaker D: I would like draft.
[01:42:41] Speaker C: I've been drinking a lot of Kool Aid lately.
[01:42:43] Speaker B: It's busting through the. It's just as an adult, I hate Kool Aid.
[01:42:47] Speaker D: Use the Kool Aid.
[01:42:48] Speaker C: We're no longer friends.
[01:42:50] Speaker B: It feels bad.
[01:42:51] Speaker C: Maybe you haven't had any good Kool aid.
[01:42:52] Speaker B: Maybe you're not putting enough sugar in it.
[01:42:54] Speaker C: Maybe you should try my Kool aid.
[01:42:55] Speaker B: Maybe. But with that, let me remind you to call the.
[01:43:00] Speaker C: What did you even say there?
[01:43:02] Speaker B: Did you even make words? No, I didn't. But don't forget to call my son. Leave your hot takes on the hot take hotline. His son is like six months old, by the way. It's like eight months old.
[01:43:12] Speaker C: Eight and a half.
[01:43:12] Speaker B: Yeah. Remember, he doesn't talk. These are hot takes.
[01:43:15] Speaker C: We want hot takes.
[01:43:17] Speaker B: We want hot takes.
[01:43:18] Speaker C: We want hot takes.
[01:43:20] Speaker B: 3302-2780-8033-0227 8080-3302-2803-3022 780 call now. Operators are. No, not standing by.
[01:43:33] Speaker C: Not here, not there.
[01:43:34] Speaker B: It's just an answering.
[01:43:34] Speaker C: Not here, not there.
[01:43:35] Speaker B: And be sure to check out our gear at ww thetapandmedia.com backslash shop. And that'll do it for us. Kenny, what can we expect next week?
[01:43:44] Speaker C: Next week? Absolutely nothing. All right. Oh, you'll be able to have something again. This is all determined basically by how good our wifi connected we can be to the rest of the world.
[01:43:54] Speaker B: It could be great. It could be awful.
[01:43:56] Speaker C: We will be doing podcast interviews. We'll be having probably our own podcast just to talk about the fan cruise. Certainly if there's any NFL or browns news that breaks, we'll jump on and record it. We have a conference room all to ourselves, so we have the ability to work on this cruise. We just may not have the ability to upload some of these things. So anything that you don't hear from us next week, you'll hear from us the week after when we jump in and do our kind of recap of the Browns fan cruise, along with, again, any NFL news that breaks, obviously, which we'll cover, but no podcast officially, like on Thursday or Friday, where we'd normally release. It'll just kind of be like a hodgepodge of anything we can get out whenever we get it out.
[01:44:35] Speaker B: Long story short, we're going to be in the Caribbean having a hell of a time with 16 Browns alumni sailing.
[01:44:42] Speaker C: The Caribbean looking for strippers and cocaine.
[01:44:44] Speaker B: Okay, well, maybe not.
[01:44:46] Speaker D: Is that what they advertise?
[01:44:47] Speaker B: I don't think so.
Maybe not.
[01:44:51] Speaker C: Check with our sponsors.
[01:44:52] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll see.
But with that, don't forget to check us out on social media.
[01:44:57] Speaker C: Oh, sorry, I didn't finish. When we get back, we're going to be taking a much needed break before we get back into the swing of things.
[01:45:03] Speaker B: Oh, yes. We'll have one more episode to recap the fan cruise, and then we will.
[01:45:06] Speaker C: Be taking sabbatical, probably four to six weeks, for planning for the rest of the year next brown season.
[01:45:12] Speaker B: Make sure we can bring you top quality product. Next season?
[01:45:14] Speaker C: Hell, yes. But, yeah, this is the thing that happens. Pat McAfee just took two weeks off, so don't look at me like this. Weird.
[01:45:20] Speaker B: Yeah, he. Sons of bitches. I'm sorry. I didn't mean that.
[01:45:22] Speaker C: Come back, please.
[01:45:23] Speaker B: Watch our show anyways, you can find us on social media. Tapin'media is on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram at the Tapin'media, tapin'media, and burning river sportscast. That's. This podcast is on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube at River Sportscast, and on X at Riverpod. You can find our podcast wherever you get your podcast. Talking to Apple podcasts, Spotify, Google podcasts, Amazon Music, Pandora, iHeartradio, podcast, Castro, Goodpod, Stitcher, and so many more. And you know Kenny.
All right, what do you got for us, Kenny? Ooh, I got hot there.
[01:46:18] Speaker C: Hot Mic, hot Mike, red hot Ronnie.
[01:46:19] Speaker B: Jams on the hot mic facts for days.
[01:46:23] Speaker C: I went with ocean facts this week since we'll be exploring the ocean.
[01:46:27] Speaker B: I'm so scared right now.
Listen, before you get started, I really have to reiterate this. It's really od that I'm going on a cruise because there is nothing in the entire world or universe that I am more terrified of than the ocean.
[01:46:41] Speaker C: These, thankfully, aren't very scary, but I thought they were quite interesting.
[01:46:44] Speaker B: Fair.
[01:46:45] Speaker C: Number one, there is enough salt in the ocean to cover the entire surface of the earth.
[01:46:55] Speaker B: How thick?
[01:46:57] Speaker C: If the salt in the ocean could be removed and spread evenly over the Earth's land surfaces, it would form a layer of more than 500ft.
[01:47:07] Speaker B: Wow.
[01:47:09] Speaker C: About the height of a 40 story office building.
[01:47:12] Speaker D: Saltwater tastes terrible.
[01:47:14] Speaker B: That's what you got out of that.
[01:47:16] Speaker D: That's why it tastes so bad.
[01:47:17] Speaker B: So thick, so much salt. How does it even get to the point where it's at least dissolved enough that we can't see it very well?
[01:47:26] Speaker C: Very fine grain off of, like, rocks and minerals and it's just shifting in the ocean tides forever.
[01:47:31] Speaker B: Bro, you blew my mind. It's just number one.
[01:47:34] Speaker C: That's what I'm here for. This is the first time you guys were like, that was kind of.
[01:47:38] Speaker B: You usually start off slow. You went right at it, man. I like it. Yeah. What's number two?
[01:47:43] Speaker C: Number two, we're excited. We're going. Thanks to the ocean, most of our planet is dark. The Earth's oceans have an average depth of 12,100ft. Because of that.
[01:47:56] Speaker B: Now you're scaring me again.
[01:47:57] Speaker C: There's rarely any significant light beyond 600ft, so everything below 600ft in the ocean, seeing as water makes up most of the planet, means that most of the earth exists in absolute darkness all the time.
[01:48:10] Speaker D: Yeah, there's people out there who go, like, night scuba diving.
[01:48:15] Speaker B: Gosh, all of these things that you guys are talking about just make me itch.
Did you say the average depth of the ocean is over 1200?
[01:48:24] Speaker C: Average depth of 12,100ft. Yeah, it's really deep.
[01:48:29] Speaker B: Yeah, but only floating on top of it. As big as that ship is going to be, which is what I'm most excited about for the cruise.
[01:48:37] Speaker C: If the ship ends up at 12,000ft below sea level, we're in trouble.
[01:48:40] Speaker B: No, but I'm just saying, you look at that ship and you're like, holy hell. This thing's, like, as tall as there is salt on the earth. If you stack it up, probably even a little bit shorter, but shorter. But I'm just saying it's, like, really tall. So you're like, holy hell. But then you think about that and it's like, I don't know, roughly like 14,000 of those makeup.
[01:48:57] Speaker C: I think most of those boats have between 15 and 30 stories and they skip number 13 because. Scary. Yeah. Obviously, italian cruise ships skip number 17 because they have the same fear. Anyway, bonus fact, most of the earth exists in complete darkness. And in number three, I thought this was absolutely fascinating because there's so much talk about trees, plant activity, like, we were deforesting the trees to get paper and it was ruining the world. The ocean is the number one, is our greatest source of oxygen. Most of the oxygen in our atmosphere comes from tiny marine plants in the ocean, specifically phytoplankton, kelp and algae plankton. Scientists estimate they're responsible for over 70% of the atmosphere's oxygen.
[01:49:51] Speaker D: Wow. I feel like I've heard something like this before, but that's a big number.
[01:49:55] Speaker C: Huge number. You think of all the trees and we're like, yeah, there's a lot of oxygen trees, but, like, the ocean.
[01:50:00] Speaker B: I do want to say real quick, I don't think Kenny's advocating for not helping with deforestation or doing your part or anything. I'm just saying that's crazy. I've never heard that the ocean is.
[01:50:11] Speaker C: It was like the end of the world because we were cutting down all the trees and it's like the trees aren't even really a main source of.
[01:50:17] Speaker B: We. We use bamboo, like, everything.
[01:50:19] Speaker C: But anyways, I mean, we're replanting trees. Now that we've learned, we got to replay the trees so we can do them.
[01:50:24] Speaker D: Also profitable to replant your acreage. So then you can.
[01:50:30] Speaker B: We're trying to do better.
[01:50:32] Speaker C: Yeah, but the earth, the greatest source of oxygen, I would have never known that.
[01:50:37] Speaker B: That's phenomenal.
[01:50:38] Speaker C: Pretty fascinating. So, yeah, those are my facts for days.
[01:50:41] Speaker B: Those are good ones. Before we wrap, make me too scared. Although I start thinking about, like, phytoplankton and stuff, and then I start thinking about all the whales that eat the plankton and if I fall in the ocean, one might swallow me and the.
[01:50:52] Speaker C: Sperm whales asleep vertically.
[01:50:53] Speaker B: Yeah, I might fall into a sperm whale. What if you died that way? There's just a whale sleeping in the ocean. I'm looking over the edge. Oh, no, I fell over. I didn't hit the water. I hit a whale right in the face.
[01:51:06] Speaker D: Don't fall on it.
[01:51:07] Speaker C: I will say the worst thing that can happen is if one of us falls overboard.
[01:51:10] Speaker B: That's going to be bad. I've heard that no man left behind unless it's part of burning river sportscast.
[01:51:15] Speaker C: Crew members speaking code. So if you hear Oscar, that means man overboard, because they don't want to scare the people around them. So Oscar's the word to hold out for. If you hear that, get your dander up.
Somebody's in the water.
[01:51:27] Speaker B: Start checking to make sure our whole.
[01:51:28] Speaker C: Team, make sure our alumni are still aluminum.
[01:51:30] Speaker D: We're going to be late to Jamaica.
[01:51:32] Speaker C: I guess it's like, really a bad thing when somebody falls over. This happens not all the time, but frequently enough that some of the protocols are like, you'll see the team members just like, throwing things in the water to kind of help track where it is. Because it's a boat, it doesn't just stop and turn.
[01:51:48] Speaker B: It probably takes like an hour to slow that thing down.
[01:51:50] Speaker C: And then you got to turn around and go back for them. I got coast guard. It's a whole mess. Don't fall overboard. It's bad for everybody.
[01:51:57] Speaker B: That's not even talking about the injuries you sustain because he fell overboard of a cruise ship.
[01:52:00] Speaker C: Well, yeah. You got to also be able to tread water in the deep ocean for. Until somebody can throw you some waves.
[01:52:06] Speaker B: Could be like 30ft high. Who knows?
[01:52:08] Speaker C: Yeah.
It would be a bad, bad deal to fall in the ocean. At least, though, if you fall in the Caribbean, the water is warm. You won't freeze to death immediately. You might get eaten by a Shark out there. That far out. But you won't freeze to death immediately.
[01:52:19] Speaker B: Wow.
[01:52:22] Speaker C: That'll do for vaccine dates. I did have a question for Bone that we talked about two weeks ago before we finished the show. Bone is our resident historian and biblical historian.
[01:52:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:52:34] Speaker C: Fair and adult entertainment star.
[01:52:37] Speaker D: Uncredential on every aspect.
[01:52:40] Speaker B: Especially.
[01:52:40] Speaker C: You're a history major. You have a history degree.
[01:52:43] Speaker B: You were a Chippendale once.
[01:52:44] Speaker C: That's true.
I'm bringing that to the boat, baby. Hell, yes.
[01:52:48] Speaker B: I'm not excited for it. I'm just excited for you guys to see it.
[01:52:51] Speaker C: But I was more just thinking along the lines like this the other day.
We can all agree that a monarchy is probably, like, one of the worst forms of government.
[01:53:02] Speaker B: It's bad.
[01:53:02] Speaker C: We hate the monarchy.
[01:53:04] Speaker B: You shouldn't just be appointed because your.
[01:53:05] Speaker C: Bloodline isn't that kind of like what heaven is. Like. God's the king and we're just all deples.
What's to stop God from becoming a dictator if he wanted to be?
[01:53:19] Speaker D: His nature, his love, his grace, his divine nature.
He's omniscient, omnipresent, omni.
[01:53:32] Speaker B: Omnipotent.
[01:53:32] Speaker D: Omnipotent.
[01:53:33] Speaker B: But just thinking about, like, he's omni everything.
[01:53:35] Speaker C: The order of society in heaven. Right? Like, if it is a monarchy, like, God's word goes, no matter what.
[01:53:40] Speaker D: Sure.
[01:53:40] Speaker C: And the only person that ever really questioned God's word is Lucifer. So the divine omnipotence didn't work out so well for him.
[01:53:46] Speaker D: Yeah, well, he wanted to be like, uh, he was prideful as his pride.
[01:53:52] Speaker B: Pride was his downfall.
[01:53:53] Speaker C: But what does that do for us? That we're like, I kind of have enough pride that I want to make my own decisions. And God's like, no, not here.
[01:54:00] Speaker D: Well, people choose that way of life every day. And that's why he gives everybody the option to live a life absent of him and a future life not on this earth absent of him.
And that comes from his love, because he's like, you don't want anything to do with me in this life. That's your choice. I'm not going to force myself on you in the afterlife. So that's a big reason why people question hell. And like, well, how can God be loving and send everybody to Hell who doesn't follow him? He lets you have that choice. And a loving God, if you look at it that way, he provides a place for you to be without him.
[01:54:37] Speaker C: But, like, wouldn't Marcus Aurelius or comedists say they were a loving emperor?
[01:54:42] Speaker D: Yeah, but it's their actions, though.
[01:54:45] Speaker B: Actions to be glad of the words, Kenny.
[01:54:47] Speaker C: I mean, the God of the Bible, though, has waged a lot of war.
[01:54:51] Speaker B: I have a question, actually along these same lines. While we're into it, I might as well throw it in the mix here, baby. How come we used to teach, like, you have to be fearful of God? And not that we don't still teach that, but that was like, the main point was like, you have to fear God. And now when you go to church, at least in my experience, maybe anecdotal again, but all these food is expired.
It's all about love and how your God loves you.
They've just changed.
[01:55:23] Speaker C: There's still a fear mechanism, though, because fire and brimstone is still there.
[01:55:27] Speaker B: But I mean, most sermons now, if you go and you go to church and listen, they focus more on the love aspect rather than the fear aspect.
[01:55:34] Speaker D: Sure.
A good, I guess church follows scripture like the love of God, the love of Jesus. They stick to scripture. They're not adding human elements as best they can in tradition or blah, blah, blah, but they're looking to what the Bible says and they're following that.
So like a fearful God, you're supposed to have a fear of God because he is the creator of the universe.
[01:56:02] Speaker C: Good end you.
[01:56:03] Speaker D: Exactly.
Oftentimes in scripture, if you read any prophet or anybody who experienced God face to face, they die, right. Because their sinful nature, they can't stand before him.
Moses's face turned bright white when he came down from the mountain after he received the ten Commandments. His face was glowing. And the Israelites cowered in fear of Moses just because he was exposed to God. Like, his reverence. And his majesty was almost, like, glowing through his face.
[01:56:34] Speaker C: This guy says he's uncredentialed.
[01:56:36] Speaker B: He knows everything.
[01:56:37] Speaker D: And then we've been here.
So I'm just trying to look at examples in scripture of people who are like, they will bow down for angels. And they're like, oh, my gosh, I can't even look at you. But they're like, to stand up, peasant. I'm not God. Don't bow down to me. But there's like this reverent fear.
[01:56:58] Speaker B: Even the angels know.
[01:57:01] Speaker D: He's so powerful. Creator of the universe. I don't know. It's just majesty and his grace.
[01:57:09] Speaker C: Majesty. Monarchy.
So you wouldn't debate that it's a monarchy? Your point would be that he's a loving God and he wouldn't. Yeah. He's still king on the evidence that we have, which is in the Bible, which is what?
[01:57:24] Speaker B: He's still king.
[01:57:26] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:57:26] Speaker C: He wouldn't become a dictator because he loves.
[01:57:30] Speaker D: Correct.
[01:57:30] Speaker C: All of the people that.
[01:57:32] Speaker B: Well.
[01:57:32] Speaker C: And that's why heaven.
[01:57:33] Speaker D: That's why he sent Jesus. That's the ultimate testament of his love for us, because he gives us an option. Because none of us can stand before him. Right.
When God sees us in heaven, he's going to see Jesus right beside us. Jesus puts his arm around us and says, he's with me.
He's not looking at our sinful nature. He's looking at Christ's blood, which washes us clean as the final sacrifice.
[01:57:58] Speaker C: But ultimately, there's no voting in heaven.
[01:58:00] Speaker B: No.
[01:58:01] Speaker C: There's no democracy.
[01:58:01] Speaker D: I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think so.
[01:58:04] Speaker B: This has been another religion lesson. Religion and history lesson with individual freedom.
[01:58:09] Speaker C: Is a totally human selfish, like prideful.
[01:58:13] Speaker D: Yeah. Like free will, essentially.
[01:58:16] Speaker C: Yeah. Just a human thing.
[01:58:17] Speaker D: Very human. That's why we have.
[01:58:19] Speaker B: It's gone.
[01:58:20] Speaker D: Terror and awful things.
[01:58:21] Speaker B: When you get into the afterlife, it doesn't exist.
[01:58:23] Speaker C: Maybe we should go back to the monarchies.
[01:58:24] Speaker D: Maybe I'll keep going. We got 20 hours in the car together.
[01:58:29] Speaker B: We do have 20 hours in the car together, Sarah. That'll be fantastic.
[01:58:32] Speaker C: There's no voting, no democracy, no individual liberty, nothing.
[01:58:35] Speaker D: But it won't be needed.
[01:58:37] Speaker B: Won't be needed.
[01:58:37] Speaker D: I would say won't be needed.
[01:58:38] Speaker C: That's what King George said.
[01:58:39] Speaker B: That's what Hitler said.
I'm not comparing God to hit. Well, I guess I did, but it was an accident.
[01:58:48] Speaker C: What do you got to say? About what? Bone.
[01:58:51] Speaker D: Anything more?
[01:58:52] Speaker B: No. I mean, what's your final word on the day?
[01:58:54] Speaker D: I don't know. Bone appetite?
[01:58:55] Speaker C: Bone appetite. Don't just be a part of the problem, be the whole damn problem.
[01:58:59] Speaker B: And only you can prevent river fires. Burning river sports care. Burning river.
Burning. Burning.
[01:59:10] Speaker C: Burning river. Burning river.
[01:59:13] Speaker B: Not the ocean.
[01:59:14] Speaker C: Not the ocean. We're going to be in the ocean.
[01:59:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:59:17] Speaker C: We're going to be in the ocean.
[01:59:18] Speaker D: On a non burning river.
[01:59:19] Speaker B: You know what's going to be funny is when a giant image of body of water on fire is on a.
[01:59:27] Speaker C: Bunch of large screens on the ocean.
That would be this one. That one.
[01:59:34] Speaker B: You're welcome.
[01:59:34] Speaker C: You're welcome. Burning river sports.
[01:59:36] Speaker B: Burning river. And river sports. Leaving on a cruise line. Don't know when I'll be back again.
[01:59:45] Speaker C: My bags are packed.
[01:59:46] Speaker B: Leaving ready to go on a cruise line.
Don't know when I'll be back again. Leaving on a cruise. Burning river sports cast. I'll be back again.
[02:00:00] Speaker C: Burning river.
Good night, Cleveland Browns fan cruise and the burning river sports cast. What better combination could you possibly think of? Motorboat. You play the motorboat, you motorboat son of a bitch.
[02:00:18] Speaker B: You old sailor, you.
[02:00:19] Speaker C: You know, I was thinking during that.
[02:00:20] Speaker B: Interview, what were you. Nothing. Because you don't have thoughts. Because you're a brainless idiot.
[02:00:25] Speaker C: Wow. My name is Uhtred, son of Utrid.
[02:00:28] Speaker B: By the way. I want my foreskin back. It doesn't matter what you think.
[02:00:32] Speaker C: Women's guide to anal sex. And it was the second edition. Who makes second edition? The weather outside is weather.
[02:00:41] Speaker B: The other one, the finger eating food.
[02:00:43] Speaker C: Fingers ejaculate all over my body and my genitals.
[02:00:46] Speaker D: Yes.
[02:00:47] Speaker B: Oh, my God. My house is full of shit everywhere.
[02:00:52] Speaker D: You don't need fundamentals when you got heart.
[02:00:55] Speaker C: In Jesus.
[02:00:56] Speaker B: In Jesus.
[02:00:57] Speaker D: That's right.
[02:00:58] Speaker B: Touchdown. Anyway. Oh, no.
[02:01:01] Speaker C: We suck again.
[02:01:02] Speaker B: It's going down. I'm yelling timber.
[02:01:06] Speaker C: What do you mean, funny? Funny how?
[02:01:07] Speaker B: How am I funny? You were at Chippendale once.
[02:01:10] Speaker C: That's true.
I'm bringing that to the boat, baby. Hell, yes.
[02:01:14] Speaker B: I'm not excited for it. I'm just excited for you guys to see it. Goddamn jet. All I do is win, win no matter what.
[02:01:21] Speaker C: The leads are weak. Leads are weak? Fucking leads are weak. You're weak.
[02:01:27] Speaker B: I mean, last year when I won, I went home, my wife's pants hit the ground. Erroneous. Erroneous on both counts.
[02:01:35] Speaker C: Wow.
[02:01:35] Speaker B: But damn.
[02:01:36] Speaker C: I'm sorry I hijacked your segment for a second to do some good podcasting.
You know why? Mr. Because you drove a Hyundai to get here tonight. I drove an $80,000 BMW. That's my name.
[02:01:50] Speaker B: I live my life a quarter mile at a time. Now, I think we've officially lost all of our more conservative viewers, so I don't think they want to listen any longer.
[02:02:00] Speaker D: It's mother Nature.
[02:02:01] Speaker C: Where's logo girl when you need her?
[02:02:02] Speaker B: I desperately want to make love.
[02:02:04] Speaker C: We need cheese girl. Now, who's canceled? Now who's canceled now?
[02:02:13] Speaker B: Probably me.
[02:02:13] Speaker C: You making a photo of fat people?
[02:02:16] Speaker B: I'm not just you.
[02:02:18] Speaker C: We're a whole race, basically.
[02:02:21] Speaker B: No way. You're just straight. Just finger bang their salad.
[02:02:27] Speaker D: You first get shocked, and then you get the shocker.
[02:02:32] Speaker C: You like to see almost naked. That's cool, man. Whatever.
I'm going to preface this by saying I didn't understand the assignment. Are you not entertained?
Are you not entertained?
[02:02:46] Speaker D: This is not why you were.
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