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[00:01:59] Speaker C: Oh, no. They did it.
[00:02:02] Speaker A: We'll break it all down for you. Next on the burning river sportscast.
[00:02:12] Speaker D: Don't ever say that again.
Terrible.
[00:02:14] Speaker C: My ears are bleeding.
[00:02:15] Speaker D: Yeah, I know. Sean Payton looks like he's always eating a sour piece of candy.
[00:02:19] Speaker A: Sean Payton does not look like Kevin James.
[00:02:21] Speaker D: No, he does not look like Kevin James. I try and steer you in the absolute wrong direction at all costs, and.
[00:02:28] Speaker A: I straight cold cocked you right in the throat, like, so hard, like I hit her like I would hit a man. I mean, it was clearly an accident.
[00:02:37] Speaker D: There's no coming back from that. You hit a woman.
[00:02:39] Speaker A: That was the one time I hit a woman. What happened, Harry? Some little filly break your heart?
[00:02:45] Speaker C: No, it was a girl.
[00:02:48] Speaker A: Big ups to Andrew Barry's. To fancy and company for making that big dream come true. Big dream. Wet dream, nightmare. I don't know. Something bad when I just hate seeing it.
[00:02:56] Speaker B: I've been a part of the lines where they may change a quarterback, and it sucks, you know, you feel a part of. You feel like you're directly responsible because a guy's getting benched, and you're like, if I could have just done my job a little bit better. That's got to be the mindset.
[00:03:08] Speaker A: Moving forward, Percy suddenly felt a strange, sizzling sensation in his trousers. I know what you're thinking, startled?
[00:03:18] Speaker D: Smell that delicious, crispy smell. That's not your tailpipe.
[00:03:23] Speaker A: Jesse Burrow lived to be 96 years old and was just such a believer in Vaseline that he claimed to have eaten a spoonful of it every day.
He died in his house in lakes in Spring Lake, New Jersey, with a.
[00:03:38] Speaker D: Belly full of vaseline.
[00:03:39] Speaker A: A belly full of vaseline.
[00:03:41] Speaker D: What's new, pussycat? Whoa.
[00:03:45] Speaker A: What'S new, pussycat?
Welcome into the burning river sportscast, presented by the fine folks at Tappin Media. I'm Kenny Thunder, joined by a man who thought three's company was an instructional video on how to minaj etoire. He's red hot Ronnie jams. The Bone man is back today, fresh off his lifelong ambition, heavy petting and raw rubbing each of the Jonas brothers in the upcoming skin flick, three bros. One bone. Bone. Which Jones brother? Which Jones brother was the most sensitive and which one was the hardest lover?
[00:04:23] Speaker C: Nick is by far the most sensitive, and I don't know the names of the others.
[00:04:28] Speaker A: He didn't even get their names back to Red hot.
[00:04:31] Speaker D: Nice. Where can I look at huge dog?
[00:04:34] Speaker A: He just rolled out of bed and was like, peace, Jonas Brothers. Where can our listeners find the dopest dope they ever heard on a podcast? The number one ranked football podcast in all the good pods, as well as the unofficial podcast podcast of Cleveland browns backers everywhere.
[00:04:48] Speaker D: Before I get there, Bone, did you do like the sneak out or did you just let them know? Yeah, this is just a one time thing.
[00:04:56] Speaker A: Did you do the jackhammer or the Monty python?
[00:04:59] Speaker C: It was a sneak out and it was more powerbomb.
[00:05:02] Speaker D: Oh, nice. You can find our podcast wherever you get your podcast. So talk at Apple Podcast, Spotify, Stitcher, Amazon Music, YouTube Music, Pandora, iHeartRadio, podcast, Castro. Good pods, good pods. Follow us on good pods, good pods. And so many more. And don't forget to subscribe on YouTube, the only place that you can find our video podcast to check us out on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok. Our handle for all those socials is that burning over sportscast. We are an x as well with the handle at burning pod. While you're at it, check out our merch www.thetappinmedia.com backslash shop. We got all kinds of stuff in there. River gear, chubb line. Get your Chubb gear before Chubb comes back. Chubb gear, Brook Park, Brown's gear. Get whatever you want. I got a chubby right now, but today on the show, this is what you can look forward to. We got division roundup around the NFL. Our hot three. An interview with the Brownsbackers group today. The Philadelphia Brownsbackers, king of the north, gassed up the week six preview a segment of with our new offensive correspondent and oh, so much more. So break out the bibs, because the Browns are still serving up shit sandwiches week after week, and we all keep coming back for more. So let's get things started with the burning of our news story of the week.
Okay, so for today's burning river news story of the week, I think everybody knows that South Florida has been just continually pummeled by hurricanes lately. And I wanted to bring this up. I know that a lot of it's being politicized and whatever else, that's not where we're going with this. We have a lot of friends in South Florida.
[00:06:37] Speaker A: One, brownsbackers down there, a lot of.
[00:06:39] Speaker D: Brownsbackers groups for one and for two. Kenny and I actually went to school in Orlando, Florida, and know quite a few people that still live down there.
[00:06:47] Speaker A: The family down there.
[00:06:48] Speaker D: Yeah. So I just wanted to bring it up, let everybody know that do whatever you can to help these people, make sure they're getting what they need in their recovery efforts. I know there's quite a few places that you can go to online to donate supplies. I know you were talking about a. What was it?
[00:07:04] Speaker A: Yeah, this is. I mean, this is no paid partnership or anything, but I just saw that this was interesting. Life straws are one thing that you can get on and donate. To put life straws in perspective, a single life straw will filter the equivalent of 4.2 pallets of bottled water and only weigh 2oz. So four pallets of water weighs almost 8000 pounds. 4.2 pallets of water costs over $2,000. So a single life straw costs in the range of like ten to $17, depending on where you get it, and can be a huge help right now with people that are without power, without water, and are just desperate for basic survival needs.
[00:07:41] Speaker D: Yeah. And again, get out there, do whatever you can to help every little bit. You know, we're all banding together, and this country was built on the just helping your fellow man out.
[00:07:52] Speaker A: So it's just a lot at once. Right. Helene just, just ripped through there, and they're just kind of now coming out of that with the storm surge that was there, destroyed a lot of houses, even up in the coast, like in lower Appalachia, some of these towns that have just been devastated. And then to have hurricane Milton now coming straight through the gulf, I mean, they're, like, tracking it right now.
[00:08:15] Speaker D: It's like the biggest hurricane already looking at the golf scene. And since, like, the forties or somewhere.
[00:08:19] Speaker A: They'Re already looking at 180 miles an hour winds right now supposedly could make rainfall landfall as a category four storm, which I think is like 150 to 160 miles an hour winds.
So could just absolutely be devastated. I know they've evacuated, like, the Fort Myers area and some other areas that are right in the storm's path. But just, again, us saying, you know, we're praying for everybody, hope everybody stays safe, especially all of our family, friends, and brownsbackers down there.
[00:08:47] Speaker D: Yeah, absolutely. Give what you can. But one more thing. Before we get to the Browns, let me remind everybody to call the burger sports guest hot take over each call and leave your hot takes on the hot take hotline. Remember, these are hot takes. Everybody's pissed off takes.
[00:09:01] Speaker C: We want hot takes. We want hot takes.
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[00:09:24] Speaker D: Call now. Operators are not standing by, but we'll get the message. We'll put it on air. And if you're looking for the weekly recap that's not here, not here, you're gonna find it. Go back into whichever podcast platform you're listening or watching on and find our live episode from Sunday night. We're now doing live shows for the recap. Sunday nights after the games. We wanted more of a raw, instant reaction from us, and that's what you're getting. I mean, Sunday night was a shit show. We just literally shit all over the.
[00:09:50] Speaker A: Brown before we thought it through.
[00:09:52] Speaker D: Yeah, we just. It was irrational anger is what you're getting. Cause we know that's what everybody wants.
[00:09:58] Speaker C: We were mad. Yeah, everybody was mad.
[00:10:00] Speaker D: Everybody was angry. So with that, let's get into the burning river. Sportscast, dog of the week, baby.
Who? Ain't your tongue, son?
[00:10:10] Speaker A: Doesn't matter, man. You gotta play tough people in the national football League. You gotta be ready, and we gotta be the dogs that we are every.
[00:10:17] Speaker E: Time we step on there on Sunday.
[00:10:19] Speaker A: And be ready to attack and don't stop until we're in that locker.
[00:10:34] Speaker D: All right? So anybody who follows our socials will have noticed that there was no poll put out today for dog of the witch. No. And that was by design, because we can't in good conscious celebrate anyone on team that put forth such an embarrassing display on the field Sunday afternoon. It was pathetic. It was terrible.
[00:10:51] Speaker A: Not nominate anyone in good faith.
[00:10:53] Speaker D: Yeah. And so we all abstained from nominating someone this week. And we'll pick dog of the week up again when somebody's worthy.
[00:11:01] Speaker A: We did get a reasonable, honorable mention, which was brownsbackers that went to the game and the folks who went. The true fan travel trip. The people that tailgate for the Browns.
[00:11:11] Speaker D: Yeah. The Browns fans that traveled to the game. You're the dog of the week. You're the dog because you keep showing up. Even though this is what we get to see after week.
[00:11:19] Speaker A: You're welcome to be in dog of the week.
[00:11:20] Speaker D: That's where the actual Cleveland Browns would anybody, literally anybody, can anybody step up? Anybody?
[00:11:26] Speaker A: It could be anybody would be nice.
[00:11:27] Speaker D: Yeah.
But, yeah. In other Browns news here, Amari Cooper, his name keeps coming up in trade talks this week. So, boys, is there anything here?
[00:11:37] Speaker A: I've seen him all over the place.
[00:11:40] Speaker D: What do you think?
[00:11:40] Speaker A: Going to maybe even the Chiefs?
Look, I know the reports are like he's been frustrated by trying to compartmentalize, keep his.
Keep to himself, but obviously there's some frustration there. I can't imagine that Amara Cooper would be that sad if he had to go play for the Chiefs.
[00:11:58] Speaker D: No, no, absolutely. I also, I find it hard to believe that he's as disconnected and, like, like, as upset as everyone claims that he, as you're hearing from, like, sports writers and stuff out there because he's Amari Cooper. He's just the ultimate pro. I mean, we did him dirty by trying to float his name out there for trade talks in the off season, but at the same time, at the same time, he's like the ultimate pro. And I just don't see that changing just because of one trade rumor.
[00:12:26] Speaker A: He's just had a rough start. The whole team has had a rough.
[00:12:28] Speaker D: Start this year, so he's generally quiet anyway. So I kind of look at it.
[00:12:32] Speaker A: As, like, just one thing after the other, and he happens to be on the wrong side of it right now. Yeah, I mean, we like Amari, but the other thing is, we also know.
[00:12:39] Speaker D: The business wrong side of 30 is.
[00:12:41] Speaker A: That he's on the wrong side of 30. And Browns don't keep receivers past 30. So till the administration changes, he's going to be in a tight spot.
[00:12:48] Speaker D: So I guess, bottom line, none of us would be surprised, but not sure if there's really a story there yet.
[00:12:54] Speaker A: Well, I just think that the Browns probably would take next to nothing. I mean, if they're going to get any kind of draft cap compensation at all, they would probably make a move. I mean, a six round pick probably done.
[00:13:03] Speaker D: Yeah. Fair. Next up here, Nick Chubb. Most likely return day. As of now, still looks to be 1020. There's been a. So, you know, we're doing our normal recording night, Monday night. Um, this will come out on Thursday. So if anything happens between that now and then, awesome. But if not, um, as of right now, it looks like 1020 is still the. The targeted return. I mean, they return home.
[00:13:23] Speaker A: I think the question, though, is if you're Nick Chubb and do you want to come back, keep losing games, do you want to put your knee, surgically repaired knee on the line for a one in seven football team? One in six football team. That's not going anywhere. Um, especially considering his contract situation, depending on. On, you know, knowing, hey, I may not be here next year.
I just think it's going to be one of those things he has to talk about with his agent and his family because, I mean, yeah, I almost certainly wouldn't, you know, it's like, do you risk an injury? Yeah. In lieu of maybe getting another contract, playing somewhere else next year.
[00:14:01] Speaker D: True.
[00:14:01] Speaker C: I mean, I guess you got to see what happens in the next couple of weeks, but that's tough decision.
[00:14:06] Speaker A: But Nick Chubb's also another one of.
[00:14:08] Speaker D: Those guys that was going to be my.
[00:14:10] Speaker A: Just going to play his role. So I think if he's healthy, he's going to come back. I just, I don't think it's as simple as that. I think, I think someone somewhere is going to have to grab him and go.
[00:14:20] Speaker D: It's almost like a. Which is going to take priority is like, him being the consummate professional and loving football or him making the business move of like, this is probably the best thing for him or even the Browns.
[00:14:31] Speaker A: Right. If you're one in six, one and seven, about the time he comes back and they have any thought about resigning him for, you know, re upping his contract, like, do you want to put him out there right now? I mean, is it better if he just rests the whole season? I know that because of his career and where he's at in terms of all time rushing and things, it's one of the. He's not a guy that talked about stats a lot, but it's got to be in the back of his mind.
[00:14:56] Speaker D: That if I finish my career here.
[00:14:58] Speaker A: Well, just the more time that he misses the further. Are you away from being, you know, talked about in the pantheon of the all time greats? Because the way he started his career, I mean, he's over a thousand yards every season. He's averaging five yards of carry. Like, if he were to do that over a sustained period of time, I mean, he'll, he'll be in the top five, seven guys in the league history.
[00:15:18] Speaker C: His yards per carrier, still in the upper echelon of NFL.
[00:15:21] Speaker D: I think he's at 5.2, which I think is second all time behind was Darren Sprouls or somebody like that.
[00:15:26] Speaker A: Jamal Charles.
[00:15:27] Speaker D: Jamal Charles, that's who I knew it was one of those smaller, like, shifty backs.
[00:15:30] Speaker A: So he may be thinking along those lines where it's like he can post he, he one seven. Maybe there's still a chance he could get. He could hit close to 1000 yards in the season. Yeah, but I don't know, just a lot of factors to weigh there for, I think, before he can just say, I'm back.
[00:15:45] Speaker D: Yeah, for sure. And to round out the other Browns news, Deshaun Watson settled his civil suit, and it is officially deemed resolved.
[00:15:52] Speaker C: Dang it, Bones. Upset because I'm just a third voice. I was hoping for an out on that contract.
[00:15:58] Speaker D: Yeah. I mean, I'm. I think we're kind of with you. Not that, you know, the whole, the whole other side of it. You know, we don't want bad things to happen to people, but, yeah, we, I mean, we want Deshaun Watson out of here, play better football.
[00:16:10] Speaker A: Here's my final thought on this, is just how many more are out there?
[00:16:16] Speaker C: Sure.
[00:16:17] Speaker D: You never know. You never know.
[00:16:19] Speaker A: How many more times are we going to be having the same discussion, you know, when it changes, when he's no longer a braum?
[00:16:27] Speaker D: Well, yeah, that too. But I was going to say, what happens when inevitably somebody from Cleveland comes out, says this instead of somebody from Texas?
[00:16:36] Speaker A: Geez, let's not even go there.
[00:16:37] Speaker D: Yeah, just a thought.
But anyways, that'll take us to the division roundup.
All right. For the division roundup, we'll start with Baltimore in Cincinnati. That game went down to the wire. It went into overtime.
And I know we talked about this Sunday like the Bengals are one and four as well as the Browns. The Bengals are in a whole different league than the Browns.
[00:17:08] Speaker A: Well, the Bengals gotta be thinking we're the best one in four team of all time.
[00:17:12] Speaker C: For sure.
[00:17:13] Speaker D: Well, it is funny. It's like, does. I know they're one in four, but does Jamar Chase still think, like, we're the team to beat because they took the other team to beat, like, right to the wire.
[00:17:22] Speaker A: So, look, and the interesting thing is, too, and this is kind of what we talked about in the offseason, was everybody was high on this bangles team, and we said, hey, there's a bunch of rookies on this team. And lo and behold, it was your rookie punter who dropped the snap right before the game winning field goal.
[00:17:37] Speaker C: So that was a bad day for that dude.
[00:17:39] Speaker A: All those guys that they brought in, that they were like, oh, yeah, we definitely got better in the offseason. Already paying dividends. Cincinnati. Enjoy.
[00:17:47] Speaker D: So, yeah, Baltimore beat the Bengals in overtime. We were all right in that. We were almost all wrong, but we were all right.
[00:17:53] Speaker A: Yes. We were very close to all being wrong. That Baltimore team, though, I mean, even though this was a close game, and still, what did they score, 38 points in this game?
[00:18:00] Speaker D: That team is, they figured out Derek Henry, and it's terrifying.
[00:18:04] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:18:05] Speaker D: Yeah.
And then next up here, Pittsburgh lost to the Cowboys in a close one bone. And I were both wrong. And Kenny called this game down there in Dallas. So I think it was. No, it was in Pittsburgh.
[00:18:15] Speaker A: Right.
[00:18:16] Speaker D: It was in Pittsburgh. So Kenny called this game. Good job, buddy.
[00:18:19] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, this one came right down to the wire after a two hour weather delay. I stayed up to one in the morning watching this because of my rooting interest and was glad I did. I was almost really sad that I did, but I was glad.
[00:18:31] Speaker D: I wish you would have been really.
[00:18:32] Speaker A: Sad, given that I picked them to win. So, yeah, it literally came down to, like, the last play of the game on fourth and seven or whatever. They complete the pass, so.
[00:18:41] Speaker D: So.
[00:18:41] Speaker A: Go cowboys.
[00:18:43] Speaker C: Don't ever say, yeah, well, my ears are bleeding.
[00:18:46] Speaker D: Yeah, I know. And then Cleveland took another ugly l against the commanders this time.
[00:18:52] Speaker A: So, to be fair, it's always good to watch Pittsburgh lose.
[00:18:54] Speaker D: Yeah, absolutely.
[00:18:55] Speaker C: Good point.
[00:18:56] Speaker D: But so with the Cleveland game, I was the. The only one that was wrong. I said when I picked them, I said, it's a desperation pick. I just want the Browns to win. And it's. It's really, really biting me here, so. Feels bad. But you guys are both right. And Kenny, you swept them this week. The worst, the worst AFC north pick them picker in the history of Pickems was Kenny. And somehow you swept this week and got them all right.
[00:19:19] Speaker A: Don't call a comeback.
[00:19:20] Speaker C: Well done, Mister Thomas.
[00:19:21] Speaker D: If I wanted some comeback, I would have taken it off your forehead.
[00:19:23] Speaker A: Yeah, me too.
[00:19:26] Speaker D: But anyways, for the AFC north standings are as follows. Pittsburgh and Baltimore are tied at the top of the division at three and two, and Cincinnati and Cleveland are tied at the bottom of the division at one and four.
[00:19:37] Speaker A: How many games you guys pick the Browns to win this year?
[00:19:40] Speaker D: How many have we. I'm two and three on the season.
[00:19:42] Speaker A: I mean, how many games did you pick the Browns to win? But when we did our season.
[00:19:45] Speaker D: Oh, yeah, it's like over for us already. Like, I think I give him eleven.
[00:19:48] Speaker A: So everybody made fun of me when I said nine.
[00:19:52] Speaker D: It's not going to win the division, though.
[00:19:54] Speaker A: It might.
[00:19:55] Speaker D: It's not going to.
[00:19:56] Speaker A: It's possible.
[00:19:57] Speaker C: Nine game win stretch.
[00:20:00] Speaker A: Cincinnati could still win.
[00:20:01] Speaker D: Yeah.
Current King in the north standings, though. Bone is on top at eight and eleven. I'm right behind him at seven to twelve. And Kenny's getting closer. He's inching closer, but he's still in last place. Six and 13. And so with that, let's take a quick trip around the NFL.
All right, so just a couple quick stories here from around the NFL. Number one, all three top draft picks at quarterback have winning records currently.
[00:20:35] Speaker A: Didn't see that coming.
[00:20:37] Speaker D: No, not at all. And honestly, by the way, two of these teams have played. I still don't know how this is.
[00:20:42] Speaker A: Possible, but the commanders make sense. Jayden Daniels has been lights out.
[00:20:45] Speaker D: Yeah. So it's Jayden Daniels at four and one. And then Caleb Williams and Bo Nicks have both their teams at three and two.
So this is the first time that's ever happened where all three of the top drafted quarterbacks are above 500 at this point in the season.
[00:20:58] Speaker A: I still have a hard time believing Chicago can sustain that. I think Chicago's is probably a little bit of. Chicago's a little bit of luck right now.
[00:21:07] Speaker D: What about Denver's? Well, Denver's ass for 60 yards in a game.
Denver, though, at least has more passing yards than Deshaun Watson.
[00:21:15] Speaker A: Denver at least has a coaching staff that I'm. I feel like. Can we in games, um, with Sean Payton out there and Sean Payton liked Bo Nixon. Addressed to that. He was their guy from the start. So, um. And they're three and two, so I can't argue with them.
[00:21:29] Speaker D: Sean Payton looks like he's always eating a sour piece of candy.
[00:21:32] Speaker A: Sean Payton does not look like Kevin James.
[00:21:35] Speaker D: No, he does not look like Kevin James.
Next up here, uh, the wheels are falling off in New York with the jets.
[00:21:42] Speaker A: Uh, not good.
[00:21:43] Speaker D: Yeah. I mean, what's going on over there?
[00:21:44] Speaker A: Like interception pick party this week.
[00:21:46] Speaker D: Yeah, it was bad.
[00:21:47] Speaker A: Three picks for Aaron Rodgers.
[00:21:49] Speaker D: Yeah. That's the guy you got running your, your whole, your whole franchise right now.
[00:21:52] Speaker A: They, and they traveled across the pond for that.
[00:21:56] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:21:57] Speaker A: I feel bad. I do. Like, I forgot how much I liked.
[00:22:01] Speaker D: Maybe that's why he's so old. He's, he was jet lagged still. He can't, it's, he just can't do it like he used to.
[00:22:05] Speaker A: I'm telling you. I don't like, he can make some throws and you're like vintage Rogers. And then some of these other throws he's made, I'm just like, man, he's, he's starting to of, it's starting to like, be shades of like Peyton Manning when he couldn't throw the same velocity.
So I think they were really in real trouble in New York. I would not, if I was a Jets fan, I would not feel optimistic about the rest of the season. Even though they got their guy in the quarterback. I just, there's, I do not see that working out.
[00:22:32] Speaker D: They thought they would catch lightning in a bottle twice with Brett Favre and then now with, with Aaron Rodgers and it just didn't work.
[00:22:40] Speaker A: Didn't work out. Which I don't think was a problem with Brett Favre because he went to Minnesota and did spectacular.
I forgot how much I enjoyed the London series. Just because fans are wild. No, it's just football. From 930 in the morning. Literally last night was one in the morning. Like, I watched football all day. This is glorious.
[00:23:00] Speaker D: This is the reason why I can't wait for the 18 game schedule to happen because they've already talked about it. They're going to make football. NFL football will start on Labor Day weekend and it's just going to go Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Just non stop football for basically an entire week to kick things off.
[00:23:17] Speaker A: Yeah, it's gonna be glorious. So, yeah, even though it was jets and whoever who they played Sunday, jets and Vikings, I think I still just like you just wake up to football. It was glorious.
[00:23:30] Speaker D: Yep. Next up here, our boy snoop went down to Miami and won a game for the Dolphins.
[00:23:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Still surprising that like Baltimore didn't retain him or try harder to keep him. I mean, he seems to be a decent player. Obviously went down to Miami, went Pro Bowler.
[00:23:45] Speaker D: As much as that didn't mean he is a Pro Bowler. It's on paper.
[00:23:48] Speaker A: As a Browns fan, it's just sad to see guys that were in brown and orange play well.
[00:23:54] Speaker D: In case anyone's wondering, our quarterback, not Tyler Huntley has won as many games as Deshaun Watson this year.
[00:23:59] Speaker A: Yes. And Joe Flacco had another spectacular outing in Indianapolis. They lost a close game, but it wasn't because Jaflaco was bad.
[00:24:08] Speaker D: Tyler Huntley, though, he's only played one game.
[00:24:11] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:24:12] Speaker C: One in one.
[00:24:13] Speaker A: I mean, look, with hot tub and his concussion protocol, and Snoop, Huntley may be the future of the future.
[00:24:21] Speaker D: The future.
[00:24:23] Speaker A: He may be here to stay.
[00:24:24] Speaker D: Yeah, I like that.
And then finally here, Josh Allen got his head bounced off the field like a basketball, knocked unconscious, clearly handed smelling salts, and then was told to go back out there and keep playing.
[00:24:38] Speaker A: And he did.
[00:24:38] Speaker D: He finished the game, and I think.
[00:24:40] Speaker A: He missed one play.
[00:24:41] Speaker D: He did. Yeah.
[00:24:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:24:42] Speaker D: And guys, did you see this? This is wild.
[00:24:45] Speaker A: Yeah. This has been picked up by national news now that the NFL's got some questionable concussion protocol in place. Look, this was.
[00:24:53] Speaker D: It's been long enough now that they're softening again. They're like. It's like we started to go in the right direction.
[00:24:58] Speaker A: 510 years, and this all of a sudden was like. That was. We had quarterbacks getting pulled out of the game after every time they got hit. And you're like, gee, like, this is ruining the game to now it's like, well, if you're a quarterback that matters. We don't really care if you have CTE.
[00:25:12] Speaker D: New York will forget their jobs unless you keep playing. Yeah.
[00:25:15] Speaker A: Right.
Yeah, this was a bad one. I mean, this was a lot like the hot Tua concussion where.
[00:25:22] Speaker D: Oh, he was clearly unconscious. They, like, his teammates had to roll him over. He was completely limp. Like it was.
[00:25:28] Speaker C: Every team is still supposed to have, like, an unbiased brain doctor.
[00:25:33] Speaker D: That's what I was saying. They're actually. Even the neuro consultants are in New York now. Like, it's a replay thing. Like, as soon as they see something questionable, the people in New York are supposed to radio down and say, you gotta get that guy out of the game and get him checked.
[00:25:43] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:25:44] Speaker D: And they didn't even do it. Wow.
[00:25:45] Speaker A: And I mean, clearly, just even looking at his face, walking over on the sidelines.
[00:25:50] Speaker D: Oh, he was gone.
[00:25:51] Speaker A: A guy that was. Was asleep a minute ago and was just woken up.
[00:25:55] Speaker D: Wait, how'd I get here? I don't remember the last 12 hours of my life.
[00:25:57] Speaker A: Who the are you?
[00:25:59] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:25:59] Speaker A: You know, like. Yeah, that was not good. So not good. Look, you know, I think we all come from a place where, like, we played the game and sometimes think the NFL is probably a little soft on head injuries at times, but I mean.
[00:26:13] Speaker D: This was probably one of the clear cut ones.
[00:26:15] Speaker A: Probably deserved, like, at least maybe a series to, like, get your mind right before he figured out whether or not he could go back in the game. But one play is probably not nearly enough time.
[00:26:29] Speaker D: No, no, no. And, I mean, it is a good segue to an interview we're doing next week that I want to plug real quick, which is just, we're going to have the one of the top people from Q collar next week, as well as a physician that they have on staff to talk about their product and how cue collars can help reduce head injuries in the NFL and other contact sports. So make sure you tune in next week for that. But right now, we're going to go to the hot three.
[00:26:58] Speaker C: Hot three.
[00:27:03] Speaker A: Hot three.
[00:27:04] Speaker D: Yeah. This week on the hot three boys fears.
[00:27:08] Speaker A: Uh oh.
[00:27:09] Speaker D: I want to know what you're afraid of. Are you afraid of the dark?
[00:27:11] Speaker A: Are you a therapist? Yeah, you are today.
[00:27:15] Speaker D: I'll listen.
[00:27:15] Speaker A: Are you gonna talk me through it?
[00:27:17] Speaker D: I'll give you some good advice.
[00:27:19] Speaker A: You've never given good advice.
[00:27:21] Speaker D: Not to you, one guy not to.
[00:27:25] Speaker A: Go do advice for only if your name's Kenny.
[00:27:28] Speaker D: I try and steer you in the absolute wrong direction at all costs.
Bone, we're gonna start. Did we start with you last week?
[00:27:35] Speaker C: I wasn't here.
[00:27:36] Speaker D: You weren't here. We're starting with Bone. We did start with you. Cause you weren't here, but we're gonna start with you again. Cause you're here. So what are your hot three fears?
[00:27:45] Speaker C: All right, first and foremost. Well, this is number three, right? We'll count it down. So, public speaking. I'm terrified of it.
[00:27:52] Speaker A: Good one. You're public speaking right now?
[00:27:55] Speaker C: Yeah. I don't like it.
[00:27:56] Speaker D: There's no audience here. Yeah, no studio audience.
[00:27:59] Speaker C: When I first started doing this, I was scared, you know, just imagine the.
[00:28:02] Speaker D: Masses out there listening to our show.
[00:28:04] Speaker A: Has this helped you get over the fear a little bit?
[00:28:07] Speaker C: Maybe a little bit. Cause I didn't have a camera on me at first either.
[00:28:10] Speaker D: So we eased you into that.
[00:28:12] Speaker C: We just keep putting them on the.
[00:28:13] Speaker A: Spot, making it more uncomfortable.
[00:28:15] Speaker C: Right. Yeah.
[00:28:16] Speaker D: Like, earlier, if it's just a little bit at a time earlier, like, with.
[00:28:18] Speaker C: The whole Jonas brothers things in the back of my head, I'm like, damn it. Like, this is on the Internet for the rest of time, and, like, I gotta give an answer here.
[00:28:25] Speaker D: Deal with it.
[00:28:26] Speaker C: Dang.
[00:28:27] Speaker D: Yeah. Yeah. And now they know that you just accepted that you go to Jonas Brothers conventions and do sexual things with them.
[00:28:34] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, how many people are gonna believe you guys?
[00:28:37] Speaker D: All of them. Everyone believes us.
[00:28:38] Speaker A: I told Ronnie we're gonna get a season desist from the Jonas Brothers attorney. Stop making up lies about the Jonas brothers.
[00:28:45] Speaker C: And why does your friend just keep going along with it?
[00:28:49] Speaker D: He never denied it once.
Yeah, okay. Still not denying it. In case anyone's keeping score.
Number two.
[00:28:58] Speaker C: Number two. Open ocean water that is murky. You can't see, like, what's below you. I don't like that at all.
[00:29:05] Speaker A: Yeah, lake water, too. Even, like, with snakes in the water. Gets me, like, have you ever seen.
[00:29:09] Speaker C: A video of, like, somebody diving? I forget what the name of it is, but it's, like, in this abyss, like, hole in, like, belize or something, but it's like this black hole in the ocean that people scuba dive into. And it's like this ledge where you hit this ledge where it's, like, you see the sun and then you see darkness, and people will dive down into that. And I've seen video of it, and.
[00:29:30] Speaker A: It'S just like in the meg where they break the thermocline.
[00:29:34] Speaker D: I don't like that.
[00:29:36] Speaker C: Yeah. A friend of ours actually parachuted into this hole and then scuba dive down into it.
[00:29:42] Speaker D: I don't like that.
I don't want to do.
[00:29:44] Speaker C: He showed me a video of it, and it is wild. So look that up. The black hole of Belize, I think it's called, or something like that.
[00:29:51] Speaker A: Well, and you know about being underwater, too, because you used to scuba. You took in scuba diving?
[00:29:54] Speaker C: Yeah, but it was, like, in clear water, and it was cool.
[00:29:58] Speaker A: What'd you guys usually do that? The quarry? Like, Nelson's ledges?
[00:30:00] Speaker C: Yeah, Nelson's ledges. White star quarry and Gilbo in Ohio.
[00:30:04] Speaker A: The water's pretty clear all those places.
[00:30:05] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, it's pretty clear.
[00:30:07] Speaker D: You're not getting attacked by sea monsters.
[00:30:09] Speaker A: Yeah, no, no.
[00:30:09] Speaker C: You can kind of see what's. You can see what's happening.
[00:30:11] Speaker D: Not necessarily. Maybe. I guess probably not. Chances are much lower, but I can.
[00:30:17] Speaker A: Imagine, like, yeah, if you were in murky water. I mean, you see those videos, too, on Facebook sometimes where, like, there's just somebody looking around and all of a sudden there's a big monster shark or an animal.
[00:30:25] Speaker D: I don't like that.
[00:30:25] Speaker C: I was trying to scare you. Yeah, those are.
[00:30:27] Speaker D: Punch it in the nose.
[00:30:28] Speaker C: That's good. All right. So, number one, though, it's always been my. My worst fear is somebody standing over me while I sleep. That I don't know.
[00:30:35] Speaker D: Oh, man.
[00:30:36] Speaker C: And I will emphasize that this can be tragic by my own children waking me up in the middle of the night, like, standing over you, and you're like, what are you doing? Why are you just standing there?
[00:30:46] Speaker D: That is a terrifying thing to wake up to. Like, why are you doing this?
Nine times out of ten, I guess, unless it's a child, there's gotta be sinister thoughts.
[00:30:55] Speaker C: There's a monster outside my room. Can I have a glass of water? No.
[00:30:59] Speaker D: You're the monster inside my room.
[00:31:01] Speaker A: During my room. Yeah, that's fair. When I was first dating Christine, I was asleep in my room.
[00:31:09] Speaker D: I still can't believe anybody dated you, let alone married you.
[00:31:11] Speaker A: And I was taking a nap. I had a headache or something. I was taking a nap in my room after work, and she came in. I had no idea she was there. And kind of, like, gave me one of these on the shoulder, like, hey, I'm here. And I straight cold cocked her right in the throat, like, so hard. Like, I hit her like I would hit a man and just instantly took her down.
[00:31:33] Speaker C: Just say that on air.
[00:31:35] Speaker A: I had no idea it was her or what was happening. I just, like, remember being woken up out of a dead ass sleep. And I was just, wham. And she's like, it was not my finest moment.
[00:31:46] Speaker D: Again, I say, how did you get anybody to date you, marry you and have kids? It was an accident.
[00:31:51] Speaker A: I mean, it was clearly an accident.
[00:31:52] Speaker D: There's no coming back from that. You hit a woman. I know.
[00:31:55] Speaker A: That was the one time I hit a woman. I still feel bad about it. Yeah, I hit her good.
[00:32:00] Speaker D: Wow.
Incredible.
I never knew Christine. The level of respect for Christine just went up, like, 47 notches.
[00:32:11] Speaker C: She survived it, you know, Finny's very strong.
[00:32:13] Speaker D: I was gonna say I make fun of him. Cause he's a big dude, but he's got some strength. And I can only imagine she's not.
[00:32:19] Speaker A: Took her down to her knees, man.
[00:32:21] Speaker C: Dropped her.
[00:32:22] Speaker A: Dropped her quick.
[00:32:23] Speaker D: You ended her day.
[00:32:25] Speaker A: If that had been a burglar, I would have won.
[00:32:29] Speaker D: This is a citizen's arrest.
Anyways, I'm gonna go next year. I completely redid mine after bone mentioned the ocean. Because it made me think of other fears that I have. So I will say, I'll tell you what. My other two were as honorable mentioned when we get there. But number three, space.
[00:32:48] Speaker C: Nice.
[00:32:49] Speaker D: Space is terrifying. It just goes on forever.
[00:32:51] Speaker A: Space scares the fuck out of me.
[00:32:53] Speaker D: Like you been telling me. I just go out there and just float and float and float.
[00:32:57] Speaker A: I don't even know what they consider floating.
[00:32:58] Speaker D: Float.
[00:32:59] Speaker A: You're just moving through space.
[00:33:00] Speaker D: It doesn't even make sense to me. It doesn't even make. Space in general doesn't make sense.
[00:33:05] Speaker A: No.
[00:33:05] Speaker D: Like, you start getting, like, you can kind of get me to grasp, like, our solar system and even maybe, like, our. Our own galaxy. But you start telling me there's multiple galaxies, like, just all over the place. Like, an infinite number of galaxies to where there's just literally, like, we. If you. All the grain. All the grains of sand in the world, like, we're not even, like, a quarter of a grain of sand.
[00:33:25] Speaker C: Like, still expanding.
[00:33:26] Speaker D: Yeah. Wild.
[00:33:27] Speaker A: Constantly expanding.
[00:33:29] Speaker D: Doesn't make sense.
[00:33:29] Speaker A: Cosmic.
[00:33:30] Speaker D: Terrifying. Terrifying.
[00:33:31] Speaker A: What is? Nothing.
[00:33:32] Speaker D: Nothing.
And how did everything come from nothing?
So, number three, space. Number two is heights.
[00:33:40] Speaker A: You are scared of heights.
[00:33:42] Speaker D: I'm nothing, and I don't know if I'm afraid of heights or if I'm afraid of falling down and going splat.
[00:33:49] Speaker A: Yeah, that's probably what you're afraid of.
[00:33:50] Speaker D: Because I actually forced myself to do a lot of things that involve heights. Like, I really like roller coasters. We go hiking.
[00:33:57] Speaker A: Mountains.
[00:33:57] Speaker D: Yeah. Like, we climb mountain. We go hiking. And we, like, the. In Acadia, when we went to Acadia, we just talked about this a few weeks ago on our hot three.
We did several trails. Trails where you literally had to climb rungs that were just in the side of a mountainous to get up the trail.
[00:34:12] Speaker A: That ain't for me.
[00:34:13] Speaker D: Well, no, you'd fall off. Yeah, but, yeah, I mean, we did that, and I, like, forced myself to do it, and I was scared when I was doing it, but I was fine. Like, I was like, I'll be okay.
[00:34:24] Speaker A: Was that no harness?
[00:34:25] Speaker D: You were just no harness?
[00:34:26] Speaker A: Yeah, that's it for me.
[00:34:27] Speaker D: Yeah. And I mean, like, just a few years before that, like, it's rare that people die, but people have died on those trails.
[00:34:32] Speaker A: Christine loves that shit. And I would just be like, sorry, I guess I'm not seeing the summit.
[00:34:36] Speaker D: Another one that has a fun climb down. If you go to West Virginia just a few years ago became a national park. The lower gorge. Or, you know, I'm talking about the lower river gorge. Yeah, lower New river, though. Like, they have a big trail around the. The rim of the, like. Like, where the river is. There's the canyon.
[00:34:51] Speaker A: Shoot off the bridge.
[00:34:53] Speaker D: They do have the bridge. That's a really cool thing that you could do down there. We haven't done that yet, but Emily wants to really bad to do the.
[00:34:59] Speaker A: Jump off of it.
[00:34:59] Speaker D: No, go across the bridge. There's, like, a thing that they installed underneath that, you literally, like, walk under the bridge all the way across it. So she wants to do that. That sounds scary. But there's. If you're on the trail and you're walking on the trail, there's ladders that go from the top trail to the bottom trail, and it's literally, like, just sheer cliff. Like, you just go down these ladders on the side of a cliff. So. Not for me, those are pretty cool, but, yeah. So number two is heights, or at least falling off of things. And number one, the ocean.
And you mentioned it, and as soon as you said it, I was like, the ocean scares the fuck out of me, bro. Because here's the deal. Like, as scary as spaces. Like, space is scary. Like, space is scary.
Space is out there.
[00:35:40] Speaker A: There's. We don't know there's monsters in space, either.
[00:35:42] Speaker D: Space is out there. And here's the craziest thing, is we. We know more about space than we do about the ocean.
[00:35:49] Speaker A: We're pretty sure there's no monsters out.
[00:35:51] Speaker D: There in the ocean is here.
[00:35:52] Speaker A: And there are monsters in it.
[00:35:54] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:35:54] Speaker C: Big monsters.
[00:35:55] Speaker D: Yeah. And most of them, to your point, bone, you can't see them until they're, like, next to you, and then you're like, what was that? Yeah.
[00:36:04] Speaker C: What just touched me?
[00:36:05] Speaker D: Yeah. Even if you. We're not meant to be in water. We can't swim away. We will lose that fight. We'll lose that fight nine times out of ten, my friend.
[00:36:12] Speaker A: So even if you watch, like, the. Like, you watch, like, the deep sea expeditions that go down, like, without, like, unmanned craft videos of the ocean, and you see the animals that are down there before bed. Like, that will give me nightmares all night. I don't like that all the bioluminescent crabs and things that have sharp fucking fangs look like they would eat people.
[00:36:33] Speaker D: No, not a fan of the ocean. Every time someone's like, you know, you go on vacation, they're like, oh, should we do, like, a fishing trip? I'm like, that sounds cool, but no.
[00:36:41] Speaker A: You ever seen a perfect storm? Yeah.
[00:36:43] Speaker D: Yeah. The whole ship goes down, whole crew.
[00:36:45] Speaker A: Everybody dies.
[00:36:46] Speaker D: Yeah. Kenny, what are. Your hat three.
[00:36:49] Speaker A: My hat three are number three.
Gotta find my hat. Three.
My hat three. Okay, so this may be an irrational one, but I won't eat other people's food.
[00:37:02] Speaker D: That's fair. I hate eating after people are drinking.
[00:37:05] Speaker A: I hate a potential more than anything. I fear a potluck more than anything.
[00:37:09] Speaker D: That's it. It's. Number three is not eating after people. It's potlucks.
[00:37:12] Speaker A: It's potlucks.
Like, look, you don't know what these.
[00:37:15] Speaker D: People do in their kitchen.
[00:37:16] Speaker A: Well, that's the thing, right? And I'll be the first one to say, like, I'm not. We're not the most disciplined. Like, with. Like, sometimes we have dirty dishes in our sink or whatever. Or, like, if it's a Saturday and I make a fried bologna sandwich, I might use the same pan on Sunday to make another fried bologna sandwich without washing it. But I always think, like, if I'm making food for a potential luck, I always try to prepare my food as if the people.
[00:37:38] Speaker D: You clean the kitchen before you prepare the food, the people that are going.
[00:37:41] Speaker A: To eat it are with me. So, like, I'll make sure, like, that if my hands are washed and my everything, I wouldn't reuse the same pan. Like, I try, but I don't know what other people are doing, and that scares the hell out of me.
[00:37:52] Speaker D: Yeah. Everybody's like, the only time a potluck is good is, like, tailgating with close friends.
[00:37:56] Speaker A: Try these deviled eggs. And I'm like, you fucking mashed those jokes with your fucking fingers that I don't know what was in and could.
[00:38:03] Speaker D: Have mashed you with their penis.
[00:38:05] Speaker A: What did you match those yolks with?
[00:38:09] Speaker D: I mean, they could have.
[00:38:10] Speaker A: I am not eating those deviled eggs.
[00:38:12] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:38:12] Speaker A: Or I got this great haitian recipe my grandma used to make, and I'm like, I am not eating that rice. I got no idea what you cooked that on. Like, you know, they got the Blackstone outside. It's been sitting out there, and rats have been shitting on it, and squirrels been making love on it for months. And then you go take it out. You're like, I'm gonna make some rice for everybody. No.
[00:38:29] Speaker D: Whose Blackstone is this? We will make love in this Blackstone again.
[00:38:34] Speaker A: Yeah. That's eating. Eating food.
[00:38:36] Speaker D: Other people don't church it up. It's potlucks. You are afraid of potlucks.
[00:38:40] Speaker A: But, like, in the same token, like, I'll go to any restaurant because I trust that, like, there's at least standard. Some standard, like, government bureaucracy, at some point, someone's looking over you. And if I really wanted to know, like, I can get on and look at, like, the county inspectors reports and I can see, maybe donate at that chinese place or that mexican place. Cause they got a lot of violations, whatever the case may be. But I just trust that food more because at least there's someone supposedly checking those places out.
[00:39:06] Speaker D: My scariest thing is when you used to.
When you're working in an office setting and you have a potluck and you're like, Karen brought that in. And I know she's got 14 cats and she talks about letting them walk on the counters all the time.
[00:39:19] Speaker A: Potholes were all over everything.
[00:39:20] Speaker D: Yeah, I don't think so. Karen, your food will not be eaten today.
[00:39:24] Speaker A: No.
[00:39:25] Speaker D: You wonder why nobody touched your jello. Get out of here.
[00:39:27] Speaker A: And everybody's always like, oh, did you try this buffalo chicken diphthere?
[00:39:30] Speaker D: I'm like, I would love to, but.
[00:39:32] Speaker A: I'm not going to just, jeez, I can't do it.
[00:39:36] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:39:36] Speaker A: Number two, I also don't like being up high, but it's not so much high as it is flying for me.
And I know flying is supposedly statistically one of the safest methods of travel, but I just can't help but live in the reality that any more of these. A plane is a gigantic computer. And I don't know if anyone has had similar experiences to me with my phone, my laptop, my laptop, my home PC. But every once in a while I'll be making a word document and you click and the cursor just doesn't come up. Every once in a while you'll open an application and it just doesn't open up. You have to just turn it off and turn it on again.
[00:40:20] Speaker D: For whatever reason, you restart it.
[00:40:22] Speaker A: Computers just get that wherever. Like, you have to turn me off and turn me on to get me right. And I'm just like, what if I'm on that plane that turn on again? I just can't.
[00:40:33] Speaker D: Hopefully it reboots before you hit the ground.
I mean, it's the only solution.
So specifically, computers failing on planes.
[00:40:41] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:40:42] Speaker D: Which, and I know we've talked at length about this, because I'm scared of that, too.
[00:40:46] Speaker A: That scares the hell out of me.
[00:40:47] Speaker D: The plane itself, not so much the mechanical stuff, not so much the plane. The electronics on the plane failing.
[00:40:53] Speaker A: I mean, I'm kind of like. Like, admittedly I'm a bad christian in terms of, like, I probably don't pray every night, like those sorts of things. Like, religiously, you put me on a plane, I will pray there every day. Like, that is the one place that I am like, please pick up this plane and put it down with your own hands because I would lose my shit if the captain comes on and says, hey, you better make those phone calls.
[00:41:21] Speaker D: That's fair. That's fair, number one.
[00:41:23] Speaker A: Well, that's the other thing, too, about flying is just that, like, if something.
[00:41:26] Speaker D: Does go wrong, can't even tell anybody.
[00:41:28] Speaker A: Well, you kind of know, though, like, ahead of time, right? Like, you have. You're. You have zero to five minutes and you're dead, and you're gonna experience it all. They don't like that.
[00:41:38] Speaker D: No, no.
[00:41:40] Speaker A: Number one.
I don't really know how else to describe this one, but I'm going with street violence.
[00:41:49] Speaker D: Random street violence.
[00:41:50] Speaker A: Like, random acts of violence.
It keeps me up at night, everyone. Like, we live in a relatively safe area. Like, it's not like there's gangs roaming the streets here, but just every car that goes by at night, there are.
[00:42:03] Speaker D: Packs of rabid dogs.
[00:42:05] Speaker A: Every car that goes by at night, every car horn, I hear every. Anything that goes on, squirrels breaking a tree branch. Yeah, my ears just, like, immediately, I can't hear the baby wake up and cry worth of shit. Christina has to wake me up and.
[00:42:17] Speaker D: Be like, hey, can you hear anything else?
[00:42:18] Speaker A: But I hear anything else, and it just, like, I'm instantly like, I gotta clear the house.
[00:42:22] Speaker D: That's that.
[00:42:23] Speaker A: Get the gun out of the drawer, and I'm clearing rooms.
[00:42:25] Speaker D: That's that. There is that innate ability to, like, protect your family. Like, you know Christine's gonna take care of the baby so the baby doesn't wake you up, right? I'm the same way, and I feel bad about it every time. Emily's like, baby woke up in the middle of night, you didn't wake up. And I'm like, I don't even hear it. That's not even a. I'm sorry, but, yeah, I'm kind of the same way. Like, I hear something in the house, and I'm like, what the hell was.
[00:42:48] Speaker A: I mean, like, I strategize constantly. Like, thinking about, like, what room I'm in if someone were to break.
[00:42:52] Speaker D: I remember when I used to live with you, and you'd be like, I gotta clear the room.
[00:42:55] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I still do it. Christine's always mad at me. She's like, why are you walking around the house at 04:00 a.m. with, like, a handgun? Like, what is wrong with you? And I'm like, I heard something I didn't. Like, yeah, no, don't break in here. There's nothing in here worth. Worth your life. Cause I will. I will fire first and ask questions later. Like, I'm also terrified of, like, killing my mom that way. Like, she comes over the middle of the night, and I'm just. I'm just. I'm just emptying the chamber.
[00:43:17] Speaker D: Like, it's I don't know if this segment is going to make it on YouTube.
[00:43:22] Speaker A: I'm just saying, like, you break into this place, you better have said your prayers. Like, I got me on a plane.
[00:43:27] Speaker C: Hey, Kamala has said it openly, publicly. So I think I will defend this turf. Kenneth, under can.
[00:43:33] Speaker D: Yeah, I will defend this turf.
Well, you talk about street violence, and here's one thing is I just mentioned how strong you were. You're not good at using it. Like, you would get your ass beat, man. Like, you would get fucked up.
[00:43:45] Speaker A: Like, I'm also terrible. Yeah. I mean, just plain old street violence.
[00:43:47] Speaker D: If you're like, you have no. You have zero experience fighting, so you would get beat up.
[00:43:52] Speaker A: No, that's why I would.
[00:43:54] Speaker D: That's not a knock against you. I'd get my ass beat, too. Like, I have a little bit more fighting experience than you.
[00:43:58] Speaker A: That's why I.
[00:43:59] Speaker D: But not as much as people who fight. Like, I'd get my ass beat.
[00:44:01] Speaker A: That's why I carry a firearm. For self defense.
[00:44:03] Speaker C: But, no, I'm in the same boat.
[00:44:05] Speaker D: No bones. A Miller, he would be ass.
[00:44:07] Speaker C: I got beat up my whole life. I never gotten any, like, real fights.
[00:44:11] Speaker D: Okay, well, if you don't whoop ass, then your brothers are coming to take care of it.
[00:44:15] Speaker A: You always call the Miller brothers?
[00:44:17] Speaker D: Yeah, they'll take care of everything, so. But now that'll do it for the hot three. Random street violence beware.
Kenny, I think it's time for an interview. What do you think?
[00:44:27] Speaker A: I'm in. Let's do it.
[00:44:28] Speaker D: Yeah. So something we started last year, we're going to continue it this year. We're going to continue it as long as we're doing interviews, is our Brownsbackers interview series. Just want to highlight these groups, kind of travel around with the team. This week is the Philadelphia Browns backers because we're playing Philly, and so just kind of followed around the team, highlight these places for not only being huge Browns fans, but for all. All the charity work and good things they're doing in their community to raise money for different organizations and help them out. So with that, let's go ahead and get into the next interview in the.
[00:44:58] Speaker A: Series powered by Riverside F.
[00:45:10] Speaker D: All right, guys, so for this Brownsbackers interview, please help me welcome from the city of brotherly Love, even though they killed the president of the Philadelphia Brownsbackers, Nick.
Hey, Nick, how are you? Thank you so much for joining us.
[00:45:26] Speaker E: Hey, how you doing?
[00:45:27] Speaker D: Good, good. So, you know, first things first. Tell us about your chapter out there. In Philadelphia.
[00:45:36] Speaker E: So we're pretty lively bunch these days. We started in the early eighties, from what I hear. Bounce around a couple hotels back in the day before the Internet and all that.
Once the browns went away, when they came back, it was reimagined, moved to the city, got a little younger and we probably have close to 6700 members in the Facebook group. I would say 700 or 80 show up weekly.
[00:46:09] Speaker D: Okay, nice. Do you guys have just one viewing location or do you have multiple? Multiple.
[00:46:15] Speaker E: Yeah, we just have one for now.
You know, everybody says, hey, there's a thousand bars in the city. They'd love to have you. It's like, yeah, it's not as easy as it sounds with competing with eagles. So.
[00:46:27] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah, I can only imagine.
[00:46:29] Speaker A: So what is your viewing location?
[00:46:33] Speaker E: So we are at Jack steaks taproom. It's a neighborhood spot, south Philly, and it's a mile or two from the stadiums. So it's kind of one of those bars that kind of has garage doors and opens out in the street. So during the good weather, you know, you got a good community, a lot of walk up kind of stuff. So pretty good spot.
[00:46:56] Speaker A: How long have you been there?
[00:46:59] Speaker E: We've been here since the pandemic. Our original bar didn't make it through the pandemic, so the next year we had to move here.
[00:47:07] Speaker A: Nice.
[00:47:08] Speaker D: Sorry to hear that. I know it was tough for a lot of bars, so.
But I'm glad you guys were able to land on your feet and find a new viewing location, keep things rolling. And I know, you know, sometimes in tandem, sometimes on your own with those viewing locations, you know, you guys get involved with community service and charity work. What types of things are you guys involved with right now?
[00:47:31] Speaker E: So we have three charities we support other than the Browns foundation, two local and then one back in Cleveland. So locally we support war Philadelphia, which is Philadelphia center against sexual violence. It's the only rape crisis center in the city and it's one of the oldest ones in the state.
We also support Philadelphia Animal Welfare Society.
It's a spot for more than just a pound. They find homes for lost pets and provide veterinary care for people that may have struggle with cost of that kind of stuff. And then our charity at home, we support the kidney foundation of Ohio.
They support folks struggling with kidney disease and they also provide education for renal professionals in the region.
[00:48:40] Speaker A: Nice, nice. Those are great charities, let me ask you. So do you support the same charities every year or do you guys mix those in and out?
[00:48:51] Speaker E: We've had these same three the last few years, every couple years, we'll take a poll and see if you want to change up. But, you know, people pretty happy with. With where we are, so.
[00:49:03] Speaker D: And I know part of kind of raising money for these charities, a lot of that stems from people buying raffle tickets or 50 50 tickets or whatever the case may be. The events that you guys do be at weekly watch parties or other events. Do you have any big upcoming events? I know, I know the Browns are going to be in Philadelphia this weekend, so is anything going on for that?
[00:49:25] Speaker E: Oh, yeah. We got the packer bash. Give me all day Saturday, so should be a pretty, pretty good time. Hanford Dixon will be on hand. Sign autographs and hang out and talk to folks.
[00:49:38] Speaker A: Top dog.
[00:49:39] Speaker E: Yep.
[00:49:40] Speaker D: Yeah, he'll tell you, too. Ask him to tell you the story, like, the real story, his real story of how the dog pound came about. And he'll tell you.
[00:49:49] Speaker A: It's fun.
[00:49:52] Speaker D: But yeah. So how did you become a Browns fan? I heard you call Cleveland home, so I'm assuming you're from here.
[00:49:59] Speaker E: Yep.
Grew up there, came out here for college and just kind of got stuck. So here we are.
Then I found the chapter. Been going every week, and then eventually it whittled down to needed a president. Like, all right, well, I guess I'll do it.
[00:50:17] Speaker D: So did they. Did they just draw straws or were they like, who's been here the longest? And they went.
[00:50:24] Speaker E: Yeah, kind of more of a who wants to do it? And then nobody wants to do it. So.
[00:50:27] Speaker D: All right.
[00:50:28] Speaker E: Uh, you come every week. How about you come, you do?
[00:50:30] Speaker A: All right, well, we appreciate you stepping up.
[00:50:33] Speaker D: Yeah. I mean, uh, so how has. Has it grown? Uh, under. Under your tutelage?
[00:50:42] Speaker E: Yeah, I think so. Um, you know, the biggest part of that, that is browns had a couple years where they were decent there, made the playoffs. So that helps a lot.
And we are in the center of the city, so we got a lot of younger people, newer transplants, that kind of thing, people passing through, so.
[00:51:02] Speaker D: Yeah, for sure. And I know you got three new members today, so that should help with your numbers.
[00:51:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:51:10] Speaker D: All right. Yeah. Every time we do a brownsbaggers interview, we like to also become a member of that brownsbackers chapter. So if anybody doesn't know, make sure you go online to. What is it? Brownsbackersworldwide.com, get registered. It's free to register. And then sign up for whatever brownsbackers chapters you have locally, if there's one that you go to regularly or even if you're gonna be out of town. Sign up for these places when you go see them because it's a boost to their numbers and it helps them.
[00:51:40] Speaker A: With what they're doing, especially if you're traveling, too, because you can't see when the events are.
[00:51:44] Speaker D: Yeah, and they're everywhere.
[00:51:45] Speaker A: Nick, let me ask you, so are you from more like small town Ohio, or did you grow up in Cleveland? Just curious. Like, Philadelphia's big city you live in? Like, was that culture shock for you coming into there?
[00:51:57] Speaker E: A little bit. I mean, I'm from an in ring suburb, so from Cleveland. So you know, that not too different city wise, but, you know, the east coast pace and attitude is a bit different, but otherwise, not too much of a shock.
[00:52:13] Speaker D: Yeah. So, I mean, let's, let's get onto the football side of things here because that's kind of what, you know, the, obviously, you guys do a lot of good and you guys are helping out your communities and your charities, but we're all here because we love the browns. Maybe not as much right now, but we still love them. So, you know, what are your thoughts on this year's version of the Cleveland Browns?
[00:52:37] Speaker E: Man, it's tough. You know, it's.
Injuries are killing us, you know, and this is the, I feel like this is the year that the quarterback play was. You kind of had to have it or didn't. You got to make or break it, and doesn't look like it's coming out so good. But, I mean, you really can't argue with some of the other flaws there are on the team. But, I mean, I don't know, going forward, we gotta. Gotta make a change here somewhere.
[00:53:04] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:53:05] Speaker A: Do you think that changes is at quarterback, or is there other areas of the team that you're looking at that are just efficient?
[00:53:13] Speaker E: Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, quarterback helps.
That's one of those things, you know, he's the leader of the teams. When you change the quarterback, it, you know, good or bad, you know, it's going to jumpstart everybody else and get everybody's attention and focus, at least for a game or two, you know, to make sure. And then if, and then I know the other. The offense just isn't clicking either. So, you know, I don't. They change the coordinators, they change the offense this year, so they gotta do something different. Cause, you know, 13 points a game isn't gonna do it.
[00:53:43] Speaker D: No. And I think he kind of nailed it right there with they gotta do something different because it seems like every week we've been trotting this team out, doing the same exact thing, hoping something's gonna change, and it just doesn't change. So something needs to change.
[00:53:56] Speaker A: Very much so.
[00:53:58] Speaker D: So with that being said, I mean, what are your thoughts on the game coming up against the Eagles?
[00:54:06] Speaker E: Well, a little nervous because, I mean, the Eagles aren't, aren't playing that well. They, they also have a $200 million quarterback who's not exactly lighting the world on fire either. So, yeah, I think that keeps us in the game, but, you know, they, they do have, they're pretty good in the trenches and, you know, that's where our injuries are. So that's going to be the tough part to overcome, I think.
[00:54:29] Speaker A: What's, what's the temperature in the city right now? I know it sounds like Sirianni is getting some heat. I mean, are they still confident that that's a playoff team there? And do they look at the Browns as kind of a cakewalk this week?
[00:54:42] Speaker E: I mean, after the last two weeks, they haven't played well, so they're, you know, every, every week they're like, I don't know, you know, this is, you know, next opponent up, but, you know, they're not as confident as they were, you know, beginning of season. Season.
Yeah, but I think Sirianni seats starting to warm up, so.
[00:55:00] Speaker D: Yeah, I don't think, I don't think the Browns are as confident as they were at the beginning of the season either. So, you know, it's a battle of regression here.
[00:55:06] Speaker A: Goes around.
[00:55:07] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah. We'll see who's regressed less. But with that being said, I mean, so what, what are your actual thoughts? What do you, how do you think this game is going to go? What do you think the score is going to be in the end?
[00:55:21] Speaker E: I mean, I think Eagles defense isn't great, but our offense isn't great either.
They're struggling on offense. I think this is going to be a barn burner, like 1917 or something like that.
[00:55:33] Speaker D: So 1917.
[00:55:39] Speaker E: I think that's going to be Eagles.
[00:55:41] Speaker D: There it is.
I don't mean to cheer for that, but you were the first one, you're the first Brownsbackers president that was able to say, I'm going to be honest with you, I don't think we're going to win this game, and I salute you for that. I've gained a lot of respect for the Philadelphia Browns backers today. So, I mean, we're right there with you. So you don't feel bad for making that prediction? The Browns are about as low as they could be right now, they just. It's almost depressing to watch.
[00:56:12] Speaker A: It feels real bad. Hey, Nick, while we have you, I know we're getting near the end of our time here, but just being the fact that you are in Philadelphia, I just have to ask. I'm a big foodie. Do you have a favorite cheesesteak? Is it Pat's, Geno's? Or are you kind of one of the off the beaten path guys? Is there a local mom pa that does a better job?
[00:56:32] Speaker E: I'm a big fan of Tony Luke's. They're. They're in the city, but they're kind of a bigger one. But, you know, their original spot, you know, the parking lots underneath 95. So, you know, like walking up to a gas station. But it's a. It's a good spot and it's a good, you know, South Philly staple. So that's my. That's my go to nice Tony Luke shots.
[00:56:56] Speaker A: Put that on the list.
[00:56:56] Speaker D: I do love a good cheesesteak. Who doesn't?
But listen, Nick, it's been great having you on. We really appreciate it. Hopefully, hopefully when the Browns come to town, they can give your guys a chapter, and that entire brownsbackers bash, it'll pay off and you guys will have something to root for, something to be excited about on Sunday.
[00:57:18] Speaker A: Shot in the arm.
[00:57:18] Speaker D: Yeah, we can get back on track here. But again, thank you so much for joining us. We really appreciate it. And go browns.
[00:57:25] Speaker E: Yep, no problem, guys. Thanks.
Here are the Philadelphia Brownsbackers, and you're listening to burning river sports cast. Go browns.
[00:57:44] Speaker D: Good time. Talking to Nick from Philadelphia. Browns, huh?
[00:57:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Sounds like they have a nice little following out there.
I'm excited to go try his cheesesteak place.
[00:57:54] Speaker D: Yeah, I'm excited for this time I'm in Philly. I can't go wrong with a cheesesteak, which, I mean, mostly I try not.
[00:57:58] Speaker A: To go to Philly because I'm terrified of Philly in a street boiler.
[00:58:01] Speaker D: They killed Hitchbot.
[00:58:03] Speaker A: They did kill Hitchbot.
[00:58:04] Speaker D: Guy in a Randall Cunningham jersey.
[00:58:06] Speaker A: Yeah, that was not his finest moment.
[00:58:09] Speaker D: But I mean, his starting to. And it's not just Nick. I was surprised that he actually did it and made the prediction against the Browns, but I can't fault him for it. And, I mean, I'm sure everybody's going to see here, coming up here.
[00:58:21] Speaker A: I mean, the interesting thing is, like, we started doing these interviews when the Browns were. Were doing well, more so than they weren't. We weren't on the air, like when they were one in 31. So we don't know, like, what, how those conversations would have went. We're starting to see the pendulum swift switch swing now. I can't talk to where people don't have as much faith in this Browns team to win games.
[00:58:44] Speaker D: And we're. We'll touch more on this later in the show, but the. I'm here to say, and I think our show is here to say, like, it's okay to criticize the Browns. Yeah, it's okay. You're not a bad fan.
[00:58:55] Speaker A: It means you care.
[00:58:56] Speaker D: Yeah. And so, like, you want to see. That's why the problem. I could see it in his face and I encouraged him. I said, if you're going to pick against him, pick against him. It's no big deal.
[00:59:04] Speaker A: Just do it.
[00:59:04] Speaker D: It's no big deal.
[00:59:05] Speaker A: We pick against him every week.
[00:59:06] Speaker D: Yeah. But let's go ahead and take a quick revenue break and then we'll get back here and talk about the week six matchup with the Philadelphia Eagles.
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All right, so we got a trip coming up, guys.
[00:59:56] Speaker A: Hell yes, we do.
[00:59:57] Speaker D: And we can finally focus on it because here's the deal. True fan travel is going to send us to New Orleans.
[01:00:03] Speaker A: Yes, they are.
Couldn't be more excited.
[01:00:06] Speaker D: Yeah. All three of us are going on a private charter flight to New Orleans to party with a dog pound. And I know they had a trip this, this past weekend to Washington. Hanford Dixon was there. They had a huge tailgate. So they did two weeks in a row, first in Las Vegas and then out in Philadelphia. I'm sorry, out in Washington. And then the next trip up is our New Orleans trip in November. So I will say it's, you know.
[01:00:32] Speaker A: Browns fans travel well, because we have brownsbackers everywhere and all this stuff.
[01:00:36] Speaker D: All these trips are sold out.
[01:00:37] Speaker A: But true fan travel adds just a whole nother contingent of Browns fans helping to take over these stadiums, which is awesome to see.
[01:00:44] Speaker D: Absolutely. And so this event includes optional round trip, private charter flight, three night stay at Renaissance New Orleans paramarket, French Quarter, a welcome party. That's an all inclusive cruise down the Mississippi river with a dog pound, a Q and a with Kevin Mack. Probably some autograph signings there as well. I'm hearing some rumbling. Rumblings about potential other guests as well.
[01:01:03] Speaker A: Yes, we'll see.
[01:01:05] Speaker D: Bridget Linton will be there. There's gonna be a pep rally the day before all inclusive tailgate the day of. And obviously, your game, your tickets to the game at the Superdome, which is where the Super bowl will be this year. So gonna be a lot of fun.
[01:01:18] Speaker A: Will not be.
[01:01:19] Speaker D: And if you should have any issues whatsoever, there will be on site trip coordinators to handle all of your questions. So. Gonna be awesome. I can't wait to go. We keep talking about the food. I can't wait for that food. It's just gonna be great.
[01:01:32] Speaker A: Did you see? I don't know if you can tell in the video, there was some. Some spread from the tailgate. It looked freaking awesome. Just wings and all kinds of meatballs.
[01:01:39] Speaker D: And you can eat as much as you want.
[01:01:41] Speaker A: Delicious stuff.
[01:01:42] Speaker D: Yeah, I like that. But as a potluck. Are you gonna be okay?
[01:01:44] Speaker A: I trust the true fan travel.
[01:01:47] Speaker D: Do you trust catering companies?
[01:01:48] Speaker A: I don't think true fan had, like. I don't think true fan had. Karen and accounting make the meatballs.
[01:01:54] Speaker D: Well, you never know. I don't think they did either. This is top notch, quality stuff here. But with that, let's get into the week six preview brought to you by true fan travel.
Oh, we're ready. This week. This week we have the Philadelphia Eagles. Kenny, you know what it's time for?
[01:02:25] Speaker A: It's time for Kenny's Cliff's notes.
All right, Eagles. Cliff notes. Browns finish their road trip in the worst city in America. Yes, they killed hitch pot. Yes, they threw snowballs at Santa. And yes, their cheesesteaks are overrated. The Eagles are two and two coming off a by last week, where they watched the rest of their division go three and o steam feels like it is underperformed out of the gate. High criticism being aimed at head coach Nick Sirianni, who is 34 and 17 in his fourth season with the Birds. The Eagles also boast two top coordinators in Vic Fangio, who's considered one of the best to ever do it. Known for opportunistic and aggressive defenses, and perennial head coach in waiting, Kellen Moore as their offensive coordinator.
This team is only averaged 15.5 points over the last two games, but they have been nicked up with some significant injuries, but they're looking to get healthy as they eye down what is an easier stretch of their schedule starting with the Browns. Yes, folks, that's where we are at again. Teams view us as the easy part of their schedule. Big ups to Andrew Barry's, to Fansky and company for making that big dream come true. Big dream. Wet dream. Nightmare. I don't know, something bad. Back to the Eagles. As mentioned, this team is underperformed. Underperform starting with quarterback Jalen Hurts, who came into this league a bit of a question mark, became a star and lately it seems maybe he's a question mark again. However, the intangibles are there. He's got a strong, strong arm and he's a tough runner. Very different style than Lamar or Jaden Daniels. He will flat out run your ass over like a fullback if necessary. Saquon Barkley seems to be the biggest in this offense, being that it's a bit more dynamic than anything he had in New York. Currently third in rush yards and tied for third and rush touchdowns, averaging a career high six yards of carry.
[01:04:26] Speaker D: That's big.
[01:04:27] Speaker A: A stacked wide receiver room led by AJ Brown and DeVanta Smith, though they have missed four combined games due to injury already this year.
Spoiler alert for the injury report. They're both healthy for this week.
Good.
Rounding out this room, the former first round pick from the Commanders, Jhan Dotson and former Ohio State standout Paris Campbell. Oh, and let's not forget their lead leading receiver, tight end, long time Eagle Dallas Goddard.
[01:04:55] Speaker D: Oh, he's killing it in fancy football for me this year.
[01:04:57] Speaker A: He's pretty good, and he's got a lot of targets with those other number.
[01:05:00] Speaker C: One tight end right now.
[01:05:01] Speaker A: I believe it's got to be up there. Despite losing Jason Kelsey to podcasting, the offensive line remains one of the NFL's best, with Lane Johnson, Jordan Mulatto, Landon Dickerson, Mkhi betten coming over from the jets and former second round pick Cam Juergens stepping into the center roll. Though this defense ranks in the back half of the league in most metrics, they have plenty of playmakers on the field. Zach Bond, Nakoby Dean. Are their leading tacklers CJ Gardner Johnson and Darius Slayer, both dangerous in the secondary. Interesting note about their d. They only have six sacks through four games this year, and half of those belong to linebackers.
[01:05:39] Speaker D: Say that whole sentence again, please.
Interesting thing about their d. Start there.
[01:05:44] Speaker A: Interesting note about their d.
You just wanted me to say that part of.
[01:05:49] Speaker D: No, keep going this whole next part is good, too.
[01:05:52] Speaker A: They only have six sacks through four.
[01:05:54] Speaker D: Games, and most of them belong to their linebackers.
[01:05:58] Speaker A: Them belong to linebackers.
So this d line is at a slow start and has not gotten home consistently, although I'm sure that will change for them this week against the Browns.
Jake Elliot has been as solid as they come for his career, but has had a slow start, just four or five on field goals. His long for the season is 38 yards, and his lone miss is from beyond 50, which is typically a strength of his game. And former Jet Braden Mann at punter is averaging a career high 51.9 yards per boot.
Final note.
[01:06:35] Speaker D: He's no Cory before.
[01:06:36] Speaker A: No, no, no one is.
Final note. Just for fun, we may get to see the great white hope. Cooper DeGene, second round pick out of Iowa, has not seen much action to this point, but there may be a sighting Sunday of one of the NFL's only white corners.
[01:06:52] Speaker D: Fun note there.
[01:06:53] Speaker C: Wow.
[01:06:55] Speaker D: Yeah, I like that.
[01:06:56] Speaker A: And that's Kenny's Cliff's notes.
[01:06:57] Speaker C: Are we allowed to celebrate that? Is that not a good thing?
[01:07:00] Speaker A: I don't know. I mean, it's just a rare occurrence there. By most counts, there's only been 50 white corners who have ever started a game in the NFL and the history of its existence. And the last one was Jason Seahorn back in 2002, 2003.
[01:07:18] Speaker C: Did Dustin Fox never get a start?
[01:07:20] Speaker D: He's a safety.
[01:07:21] Speaker A: He played safe. Yeah, he ended up playing safety. He was listed as a DB. I don't know that he ever started a game at corner, though.
[01:07:28] Speaker D: Okay.
[01:07:28] Speaker C: Gotcha.
[01:07:29] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:07:29] Speaker A: Yeah. His starts were few.
[01:07:31] Speaker D: It's just an interesting stat is all.
[01:07:32] Speaker A: I think he was more of a nickelback guy anyways, when he played, but, yeah, so very few. There is one over in Denver, Riley Moss had an interception this week.
[01:07:41] Speaker D: Good job, bud.
[01:07:42] Speaker A: Guess he's also holding down the fort for us white fellas.
[01:07:46] Speaker C: That's cool.
[01:07:47] Speaker D: There's one thing I know growing up, it's that I wasn't going pro football because I was a corner.
Same with you. You want to guess that now? But you were a corner.
[01:07:57] Speaker A: This league is racist.
[01:08:01] Speaker D: Anyways, that'll lead us to Ronnie Jams, matchups that matter.
That's me.
[01:08:12] Speaker A: That's you.
[01:08:13] Speaker D: I'm Ronnie Jams. I got a sounder.
[01:08:15] Speaker A: It's your turn now.
[01:08:16] Speaker D: Nice. So, look, you actually threw out quite a few that are good. Like, you know, they're receivers against our secondary. Two strong points for both teams. Their quarterback's good. Their running game's good. We can't seem to stop the run. All that stuff is good things to look at, but I'm actually just kind of taking in this. I'm, I'm going back down to, like, the most fundamental things, and they'll, they'll, these will both look like cop outs, but it's because our team sucks.
[01:08:40] Speaker A: We suck.
[01:08:41] Speaker D: Our team is so bad. So you said it last week and it didn't happen is when the chips are down and your team is playing poorly, you look to the leaders to right the ship. You called out Miles Garrett last week. He proceeded to have not a single stat.
So I have Miles Garrett versus the Eagles offensive line again this week simply because, again, we got to get back to these fundamentals. Our best players need to play well, and Miles Garrett needs to have a big game for the Browns to have any chance in this thing, and he.
[01:09:09] Speaker A: Needs to catch up in the sack totals if he's going to repeat his defensive player of the year.
[01:09:13] Speaker D: Yeah, absolutely. So I, you know, I think, I know Miles Garrett is battling several injuries, including a feet injury, but he's just, he's got to come strong and he's got a, he's got to be a dominant player for the Browns. Miles feet, he's got to be a dominant prayer request.
And then next up here on the other side of the ball, Deshaun Watson versus the Eagles secondary. The, the Eagles do not have a good defense. It's not terrible, but it's not good.
They could be exploited in the run game or the pass game, but we have no run game or pass game.
With that being said, we'll continue to let Watson throw it 40 times a game. And so, and in this one, you know, we'll probably actually have to because we're probably going to be down big most of the game, so he's probably going to have to throw up 40 times this game.
So if we have any chance to win this thing on top of a big game for Miles, Deshaun Watson needs to throw for like 300 plus yards. Oh, and I'm not saying that's going to happen.
[01:10:14] Speaker C: Bold predictions.
[01:10:15] Speaker D: No, it's not. No, no, no, no, no.
It is not happening.
[01:10:19] Speaker A: Jim says Deshaun is back.
[01:10:20] Speaker D: I do not say Deshaun is back. I say if you don't think he's throwing for over 300 yards this week, do not pick the Browns to win this game. Don't do it.
[01:10:30] Speaker A: Fair enough.
[01:10:31] Speaker D: Don't do it. And so, in summary here as a team, the Eagles have a two and two record coming off, and they're coming off an early buy. They had the dreaded, like, week four by. It's the worst buy to have.
Nice.
[01:10:43] Speaker A: I missed.
[01:10:46] Speaker C: I'll get it later, guys.
[01:10:49] Speaker D: That's why we bring you.
No, but, yeah, they're coming off a buy. The early by in week four, board guy slash janitor.
They don't have a great defense so far this season. They don't have a great offense so far this season, but they have been competitive, and that's much more than the Browns can say. Who can't score 20 points. True.
And so, as a team, the Browns, they have a one in four record coming off a devastating. Getting lost to the commanders. This is one of the worst feeling losses I can remember.
[01:11:18] Speaker C: So bad.
[01:11:19] Speaker D: And the Cowboys game was only four weeks ago. The Giants game was two weeks ago, and the Raiders game was last week.
[01:11:26] Speaker C: Yeah, I only remember last week.
[01:11:28] Speaker D: Yeah. And the Commanders game, two games, one week. Wait, either way, we've had four losses are piling up. Four terrible losses in a row. I keep trying to add to this list as we go. They just keep, you know, it just keeps happening.
[01:11:42] Speaker A: Everyone feels worse.
[01:11:43] Speaker D: Yeah. It was supposed to be Giants three weeks ago, raiders two weeks ago, whatever it was supposed to be. I can't even keep them straight because we suck ass.
But it's just body blow after body blow after body blow after body blow after body blow after body blow to this entire fan base. Like, it's just like, I don't know what to do anymore.
[01:12:03] Speaker C: Eventually, your pancreas just can't take it anymore.
[01:12:06] Speaker D: Right. Pretty soon, none of us will be able to stand.
[01:12:09] Speaker A: This team sucks a million asses an hour, a minute. A million asses a minute.
[01:12:13] Speaker D: So I think the Browns are heading for some pretty eerily empty stadiums at the end of the season here.
[01:12:19] Speaker A: Not good.
[01:12:20] Speaker D: They've played poorly literally everywhere on the field all season long. Passing, rushing, blocking, defense, coaching. They literally don't do anything that would help you win a football game.
[01:12:28] Speaker A: They don't really resemble a football team.
[01:12:30] Speaker D: No.
[01:12:30] Speaker C: And so the mvp of the team is the punter.
[01:12:33] Speaker D: Yes, absolutely. And there's no question there so far.
[01:12:36] Speaker C: This season, and the only thing that's not even.
[01:12:38] Speaker D: I guess you gave a second thing.
[01:12:39] Speaker A: He's consistent.
[01:12:40] Speaker D: I guess you gave a second thing. But the only other thing that they're doing well this season is choreographed dances.
[01:12:44] Speaker A: Yeah. They do that really well.
[01:12:46] Speaker D: Yeah. While they're getting flags. So as right now, 20. Yeah. As of right now, this team is the worst in the league. They need a miracle to win well, they probably need some accountability, but also a miracle to win because accountability ain't happening.
[01:13:00] Speaker A: Accountability. Never heard of her.
[01:13:01] Speaker D: Yeah. So Kenny, you got the betting info for this?
[01:13:04] Speaker A: Yes. The line this week, it's a big one. This is the Las Vegas is finally out on the Browns guys line is a minus eight and a half for the Eagles.
[01:13:14] Speaker D: That's huge in the NFL. That means Vegas thinks you're getting beat soundly.
[01:13:18] Speaker A: Yes. Yes. With the over under at 44 right now, so.
[01:13:23] Speaker D: Jesus Christ.
[01:13:24] Speaker A: Yeah, they have this. I guess it's like a 20, 515 type game.
[01:13:34] Speaker D: But that'll take us to the injury report.
Kenny, tell us about the injury report. How many? Brown. Don't start with the Browns. Don't tell. Don't go into detail with the Browns because our injury report, I know, is like 14 pages long. So keep it brief.
[01:13:57] Speaker A: We'll start with the Eagles. Devin White, linebacker, questionable. Devonta Smith, AJ Brown currently listed as out, but both have said that this week they plan to be back, so.
[01:14:09] Speaker D: They just haven't updated that since the buy.
[01:14:10] Speaker A: Unless there is something unusual that happens.
[01:14:14] Speaker D: This week, it's not unusual to be loved by anyone.
[01:14:18] Speaker A: We would expect Devonta Smith and AJ Brown to be back. AJ Brown goes battling a hamstring and Devonta Smith had a pretty nasty concussion.
That was before the buy and missing a week, so he should be back. Lane Johnson also lists out, which would be good for us if that holds in terms of that offensive line losing a key piece. Wide receiver Johnny Wilson, questionable with concussion. Reed blankenship, questionable illness. I don't know, he might have Covid or something.
[01:14:50] Speaker D: That's what that means. He's sick.
[01:14:52] Speaker A: Yeah, and then a couple of just, well, really just one recent add to their injured reserve, which is Britton Covey, wide receiver, will not need surgery but does have a shoulder that is going to put him out for at least six weeks. So. Ouch. The rest of these guys were all like late camp injured reserve guys.
[01:15:12] Speaker D: What about the Browns?
[01:15:13] Speaker A: Nobody significant on the Philadelphia side.
Browns injuries right now. James Hudson, out. Jordan Hicks, out. Denzel Ward questionable. Was ruled out of the week five loss to the commanders after a hamstring injury in the third quarter.
[01:15:30] Speaker D: Soft tissue injuries, those are just great to have in a secondary player.
[01:15:33] Speaker A: Ethan pocic, questionable with a knee. David Njoku, questionable, also with a knee injury suffered on the Sunday loss to the commanders.
[01:15:42] Speaker D: As if the high ankle sprain wasn't.
[01:15:43] Speaker A: Enough, if the high ankle sprain wasn't enough. Grant Delpic, questionable. The head, his head fell off. This is evaluated for concussion. J ok, question. Questionable.
That was due to cramping, so he should be fine.
Agbo, Akron kwo questionable oboe.
[01:16:02] Speaker D: Oboe. Okaranqua. Oboe.
[01:16:04] Speaker A: Oboe.
Oboe. He left on his game with illness.
I don't know. Everywhere kind of illness makes you leave a game.
[01:16:13] Speaker D: The flu. If you start throwing pneumonia.
[01:16:16] Speaker A: Michael Jordan.
[01:16:17] Speaker D: Pneumonia is going.
[01:16:17] Speaker A: Michael Jordan played with the flu. Get over it. Rub some dirt on it, kid.
[01:16:21] Speaker D: Charlie Hewitt, have you seen the documentary? He actually played hungover. They just called it the flu game. Go on.
[01:16:27] Speaker A: Well, everybody knows that's called. That's the flu when you hungover.
[01:16:30] Speaker D: Oh, yeah.
[01:16:30] Speaker A: Charlie Hewitt, longsnapper. This is a big one for our special teams. He's got a rib injury, so he's questionable.
[01:16:37] Speaker D: No.
[01:16:37] Speaker A: Rodney McLeod, also questionable due to a face laceration.
And then Jack Conklin out. And then Alex Wright was the last one to be placed on injured reserve before the commanders game.
[01:16:51] Speaker D: So basically, half our team. Scariest environment imaginable. That's all you have to say?
[01:16:55] Speaker A: No. Naheem Hines missed the Washington game for a knee. And Nick Chubb also kind of remains on that reserve list as well for the knee.
[01:17:05] Speaker D: So we'll see the most likely. I said it earlier, the most likely return for Chubb is the 20th against the Bengals.
[01:17:11] Speaker A: Yes. And Wyatt Taylor still in injured reserve as well.
[01:17:13] Speaker D: Yeah. So, like I said, scariest vitamin imaginable.
[01:17:17] Speaker A: Yeah, we. We don't have a lot of things going well for us there in a terms in regard to team health.
[01:17:22] Speaker D: No, no. And that'll lead us to player to watch.
Kenny, we're gonna start with you this week.
[01:17:28] Speaker A: Oh, you are?
[01:17:29] Speaker D: Yeah. Who's your player to watch?
[01:17:33] Speaker A: All right. I mean, this may sound like a cop out, but my player to watch is Deshaun Watson.
[01:17:37] Speaker D: No, it's fair. I just used him in the matchup.
[01:17:40] Speaker A: Watch him for the train wreck that he is. He's 7th in attempts. He's last in the league in yards.
We've talked about it all year long. He's top ten to in time to throw.
This is not all on this offensive line. This guy is just a broken shell of a quarterback. This was the one that we were promised was going to come here and save the organization from the devastation that was Baker Mayfield that you couldn't win games with. And I don't know if you couldn't win games with Baker. I don't know what. How you care to characterize this team with the Sean Watson? Because they aren't winning games with Sean Watson, which is.
[01:18:12] Speaker C: Hasn't happened.
[01:18:13] Speaker D: It's different than what they did with this.
[01:18:16] Speaker A: So, yeah, I mean, my question at the end of Sunday's game was, like, people wanted Baker to pull himself out of action because he was hurt and hurting the team. If Deshawn's play continues to hurt the team, like, should Deshawn take himself out? Should he bench himself? Yes, because we all kind of agreed Baker should have had surgery and not played the rest of that season. He probably would still be the quarterback.
You know, if Deshawn's at a point where we're all watching it with our own eyes, like you can see by the eye test, a smell test, every test imaginable, he smells bad. I just cannot play. And he's ugly that he's supposed to.
So look at. Look at your bed. Look at your bed, Cleveland, that you made and sleep in it and enjoy it. I don't know how many more weeks we're going to get to enjoy the Deshaun Watson experiment. Hopefully, it comes to an end sooner rather than later for the sake of the team and the success of the team. But until then, enjoy your boy, Deshawn.
[01:19:12] Speaker D: Fair bone. Who's your player to watch?
[01:19:16] Speaker C: I want to say our defense get back on track, just be feared like they were last year. So it starts with Miles Garrett. We kind of touch on it. He's the leader of the defense.
[01:19:26] Speaker D: Everybody has the same idea. My matchups to matter. Miles Garrett, you guys pick him up.
[01:19:31] Speaker C: And he has to have a big play, a strip sack, whatever it is, Qb pressures, he needs to show up in the stat line this week. Whatever it is, even if the next gen stats say he pressured the quarterback the same time, whatever it is, he needs to show up in the stat line and make a difference this week.
[01:19:46] Speaker D: I agree. At this point, I'm so sick of hearing of next gen stats because, like, it was fine and dandy when you could tell he was, like, pressuring people and the Browns were winning, the defense was feared. But now that it's like, our defense sucks ass and we aren't winning any games, like, next gen stats are so empty. They're just so empty.
[01:20:03] Speaker C: TJ Watt shows up every freaking week.
[01:20:06] Speaker A: Just had a Sunday somewhere.
[01:20:08] Speaker C: He shows up and makes a difference on their defense, and I feel like Miles doesn't.
[01:20:13] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:20:13] Speaker C: And I want that to change. Maybe he is hurt.
[01:20:16] Speaker D: It's not that we don't think he can hurt.
[01:20:19] Speaker C: Maybe it's unfair.
[01:20:20] Speaker A: But I think we all think he's one of the best defenders in the game. But, I mean, you gotta. You gotta show up on the box score.
[01:20:27] Speaker D: Yep. And so finally for me, my player to watch this week, guys, Jamis Winston.
[01:20:34] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[01:20:36] Speaker A: We're taking prayer requests.
[01:20:38] Speaker D: Yeah. And I say James Winston, because if he gets in, then we have a chance.
As long as you're playing Deshaun Watson, it's. It's not going to work out for you.
And here's the other thing, and the reason why I put him, put him on my player to watch this week is because I think this might legitimately be the week that he gets a chance. Because on top of all of the bad things being said about Deshaun Watson right now, and all the questions first defense, give about, are we going to change quarterbacks? Even though he says no, there's more and more rumblings of Jameis Winston being the overwhelming vocal leader on this football team. We continue to talk about how nobody trusts DeShawn or is inspired by, by DeShawn Watson. They don't want to play for him.
[01:21:21] Speaker A: So Jamis is a guy that will get people to run through a wall for him.
[01:21:24] Speaker D: Yeah. Put him in for a half and just see what happens. Just see what happens. It can't be worse, I think. Just see what happens.
[01:21:31] Speaker C: There would be a fire under everybody's asses if Jameis Winston gets put in the game.
[01:21:35] Speaker A: He'd light it.
[01:21:36] Speaker C: He's the light. He's the spark.
[01:21:38] Speaker D: Yeah. And I think Jamus is the type of player that would ride that fire, too. Like, he'd be like, hell, yes. This is where. This is where it starts. And we're taking this burning river sports.
[01:21:46] Speaker A: Yes. We love fire. Jamis is riding in on fire to save the day.
[01:21:50] Speaker D: Yeah. But continue to help us break down this week's matchup and the brown struggles in general. We're going to bring in someone special, so let's go ahead and do that right now.
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[01:22:14] Speaker D: All right, guys, please help me welcome former Browns Ogden offensive correspondent and friend of the show, John Greco. Jon.
[01:22:27] Speaker B: How are you guys? Good to be with you again. It's been a while.
[01:22:31] Speaker E: Yeah.
[01:22:31] Speaker A: We missed you.
[01:22:32] Speaker D: Yeah, we did. We did.
[01:22:33] Speaker B: I know, I know. I wish we were meeting under better circumstances with the Browns starting the season, but here's what it is.
[01:22:41] Speaker D: Yeah. And so, I mean, you kind of. You're already taking us there, so let's go with it. Let's talk browns. What, what is going on with this offense? John?
[01:22:51] Speaker B: It's just been wildly inconsistent. And, you know, watching the game, I was at the Giants game, but I've been on my couch watching the other games, like. Like some of us, and I'm just trying to find what is their identity?
You know, they. Even though the stats last week against Washington, you had two running backs that were averaging an efficient average, and those were kind of cheap yards late in the game, but at halftime, I think they had single digit rushing yards. It looks like they've completely gone away from what Kevin Stefanski has done in the past. With one back, heavy sets, running downhill, pulling guards, getting guys moving in space, and having athletic and pull and block little guys. It just seems like the, you know, kind of identity of the offense is, you know, like that, that meme of Spider man, when there's, like, four spider men and everyone's pointing at one another. Yeah.
You know, it's like, what do we want to be? And I get it. They're trying to tailor it to Deshaun Watson and, you know, feed into some of his strengths, which are get in the shotgun, spread things out of little bit, and try to create favorable box counts with six men and try to, you know, run the ball that way. But it's been just wildly inconsistent. And when you couple that with, you know, lackluster offensive line play, quarterback play, that's been, you know, spotty, and then when it's. When it's, you know, accurate and Deshawn's delivering the ball, guys are dropping the passes or, you know, he's overthrowing them, missing throws, missing reads, guys aren't open, and then you have the penalty. So it's a lot right now, and, you know, they have to get things figured out and get it figured out quicker. The season's gonna be over.
[01:24:46] Speaker D: Yeah, absolutely. And I know that.
[01:24:49] Speaker A: Just hold that thing. Depressed all over again.
[01:24:51] Speaker D: Yeah. Just reliving it so succinctly made it that much worse, too. But no, so, I mean, you know, obviously, there's. There's a lot of problems. There's a lot of things going on. There's coaching. Like you said, there's literally top to bottom. We could talk about everything, but the O line has been a huge part of the struggles, and that's your specialty. And so, you know, this line looks night and day different between this year and last year, even though last year we had injuries as well, and there was, you know, multiple versions of the old line that they trotted out. So my next question is, kind of a three parter here, right? I'll let you tackle them as you will. But first of all, how big was the decision to let Bill Callahan out of his contract? How's that affecting the team now? And would things be different if he was still here?
[01:25:37] Speaker B: Yeah, this is, this is the million dollar question. And it was, it was something that, you know, concerned me in the off season, and it is what it is. You know, his son got a head coaching gig. Of course he's going to want to go coach, and the Browns, you know, kind of did the honorable thing and let him out of his contract to go join his son, which I thought was a high character move, but it's a business.
So putting all of that aside. Yeah. Anytime you lose a guy that's coached in the NFL for four decades, that's been in big plays, that has coached hall of Famers, that has coached all pros, Pro bowlers, turned guys, that really helped mold guys careers and made them into the great players that they are. Anytime you lose a figure like that in your staff and in your building, it's going to be a huge hole to fill a huge void. And I don't want to sit here and trash Andy Dickerson. I don't know him. He was part of a Seattle offensive line that was in the better third of rushing and the better third of pass protecting o lines in the league throughout his time in Seattle. So it's not like, you know, this guy just landed from outer space and they just gave him a job. He was qualified.
But, you know, unfortunately, right now they're, they're trying to play catch up and they're doing little things. They're doing little things that are uncharacteristic of the Browns offensive lines that I've seen these last few years, and it's just, they're not doing the little things correctly. They're having missed assignments, mental errors. They're not picking up twists. They've been getting beat on twists every single game. And anytime I've been a part of something like that in my playing career, if you see a one week and you can't pick it up, you're going to see it for at least three to four weeks until you shut it down. Teams are going to say we can twist and get home with four, four rushers or adding a fifth rusher, go five on five and put everybody else in coverage. Of course we're going to do that. So until the Browns consistently shut that down, you know, for two to three weeks in a row, they're going to still see it. So they have to get in, they have to rep it throughout the week. It's got to be a point of emphasis for each guy individually, physically, and mentally a practice, because until they shut those down, they're going to keep seeing it. So getting back to the whole coach Callahan thing, losing a guy like that, that's got so much experience, he's so talented, he's such a great offensive mind. It's gonna be big. But, you know, that's the reality is he's gone. I don't know what his influence on the run game, the pass protection, the game plan was, but. But certainly it looks like it's missed right now.
So they have to get it figured out and they have to get it figured out fast.
[01:28:23] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:28:23] Speaker A: So, John, it sounds to me, you know, like a lot of what you're saying is price scheme based with, with cow hand leaving and just doing some new things. But I think you kind of nailed the head nail in the head earlier. Talking about the identity looks different, right? I mean, even gone are like the simple play action things because you're just not running the ball the same way.
We've seen a couple of different iterations of this line. I mean, are you, are you still confident in the personnel group as a whole? And is this mostly scheme or are we starting to have questions now around, like, guys are getting older? You know, you hate to. We're all fans of guys like Batonio and these guys, but, like, from a personnel standpoint, do we still have the guys to get it done?
[01:29:03] Speaker B: I think so, yeah. You mentioned Joel. He's, you know, probably over the hill, as we like to say, in his career. He's been at the top of his game for a long time, and he's going to continue to do that. But you wonder, you know, he's not going to play six more years. I mean, I hope he does, but I think that we, we kind of see that his window as a brown and maybe as a pro is starting to close. I'm not saying that his play is deteriorating, but you just wonder how much longer he's going to play. So we're trying to take advantage of some of these guys that are veterans that are in their prime when their play is still at a high level. We have to take advantage of that because we have them now.
We can't think about the future. We have to worry about the guys that are in the building now. And to your point, when we first started, they've dealt with injuries. It's not like this is a new phenomenon. Every team deals with injuries, so I just thought that in years past they've been able to overcome those injuries and still put together a good product on the field. Look, losing Wia teller is big, especially in the inside. I played guard, I played center.
Stabilizing the middle and stabilizing the pocket is so huge and so vital to pass protection because it allows those tackles to get their depth. It allows Deshawn to get his drop, his depth in his drop, and then he can work up in the pocket and those tackles can run the rushers by at depth. But when the pockets collapsing and getting penetration from the middle, he has nowhere to go. He's trying to find lanes and gaps and squeeze through and he's getting hit left and right. So they just have to dig deep and find it, you know, find something that they have to say. Look, you know, it is what it is. We know it's coming. We're going to get pressure. We're going to get twists. There's blood in the water. We have to, you know, us five guys, or whoever's dressed on Sunday, we have to show up and put a stop to it because, you know, you're starting to talk six, seven, eight sacks a week. That's not good for anybody. I've been a part of lines that they're struggling and it's not fun. You have to get it corrected and it starts to in the meeting rooms and practice.
[01:31:11] Speaker D: Not to me, it kind of led right into it is, you know, we're all about solutions here, or at least we like to think we are. We try to be so, you know, we could talk at length about the problem and some of the things that they could try and work on. But in your opinion, is there, is there an actual, like, is there a tangible fix to this thing that they could go? And maybe it's as simple as going back to some of the fundamentals and things like that. Is there a tangible fix that you see to the problem?
[01:31:39] Speaker B: I do, and unfortunately, they're getting ready for Philadelphia now, and you don't have time to kind of go back to basics and go back to fundamentals in practice because you're getting ready for the game prep. You're working on that week's game plan. So it's not like we could say, hey, at practice, we have unlimited time to work on technique, work on fundamentals.
The minutes, the reps are so crucial at practice. That's why you mentioned, you heard me mention the mental reps, envisioning yourself picking up that twist. What do you need to do with your technique to pass one guy off to the lineman you're working in combination with to be successful? It's a lot of mental stuff, and right now, that's where they're falling short. It's a lot of mental errors, and if you're not right mentally, the snap, you know, how could he be right physically? So do I think he could get fixed? I do. Because. Because it's simple things that they're screwing up. So if they can get those ironed out, I think you'll start seeing a little bit better play. And they just have to work incrementally each week, get better on something each week. Let's pick up twists this week, let's be better in our combination blocks this week. Let's, you know, be better at identifying. Let's be more on the same page with the tight ends, with the running back, with DeShawn in pass protection. But they got to get it ironed out, guys, or you're going to continue to see a mess where it's like everybody's, everybody's trying to, you know, point the finger and figure out who's, who's at fault, when in reality it takes all eleven guys plus the coaches to put together a good king game plan and execute, and they're just falling short.
[01:33:16] Speaker A: Yeah, that's a great point. Jono, I'm curious to get your thoughts on this. I know that the offensive line has caught a lot of the blame early on just because I think we all see the sacks and we go, geez, that's not good. But if you look at, like, the next gen stats, I mean, this offensive line, despite the. The injuries, is still showing top ten and time to throw. So I guess just like, is that frustrating as a player where it's like everybody's kind of pointing the finger at you, but it may not be all the offensive lines fall at the end of the day. You know, there's, there's coverage, sacks and other things that go into that. I mean, how do you as a player just compartmentalize and just, just block out the noise, I guess.
[01:33:52] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, you hear Deshawn, you hear Kevin Stefanski in the press conferences when, you know, they're going jump on the grenade and say, hey, it's on me. I be better. We have to be better. It's on me. It's on us. You know, in that offensive line room, trust me, coach Dickerson, the assistants, the veterans, all the players are doing everything they can to try to right the ship. They're not saying, you know, what was me? And giving up. I've been in, I've been in those rooms where you're just like, hey, we just got to keep digging because we do not want to be part of the problem. We want to be part of the solution. And to your point, yes, statistically, with the time that they've been giving, you know, unfortunately, nobody's going to want to hear that. Is it a reality? Yes, but the fact of the matter is they're not seeing the results. So, yeah, everybody has to elevate their game. Guys have to get open. Guys have to catch the ball. The ball has to be on time and in the right spot. And if it's not someone who's got to make a play and elevate, you know, a less than perfect throw, you got to stick on your blocks a little longer. You gotta run a little bit harder, you gotta play a little bit, you know, tougher, better. Everybody's got to dig deep and try to turn this thing around, or it's gonna get really, really ugly. So, yeah, you know, as a fan now, it's different. When I was in those meeting rooms, you know, they've already turned the page. They're on to Philadelphia. They've, they've closed the book on Washington today after the film. It is slammed shut. It is ancient history. And we get to all talk about it and soon and, you know, just, oh, my gosh, what is going on? This person's to blame. We have to make this change. Is this guy gonna get fired? What's this guy done lately? Those are the things that fans and people in our situation we can do. And I'm removed now enough to where I'm like, wait a second, I'm falling into that trap. But when you play, when you play, you're on to the next team. They have Philadelphia try to get that 2nd, 2nd win, and, you know, you get that second win, and then you try to get a third win and hopefully prove everyone wrong. But it's got to start this week at practice. It starts, you know, they're off tomorrow. It starts Wednesday. They have to turn this thing around.
[01:35:59] Speaker D: Yeah, for sure. And, I mean, speaking of being on to next week, I mean, I wanted to ask you one more thing before we jumped off here this week. We have the Eagles, and as mediocre as they, they've been on defense this year, the Browns have been exponentially worse on offense. So, you know, being that it is a mediocre defense, is this a week that you see the Browns getting back on track, or do you, do you foresee the struggles continuing this week?
[01:36:27] Speaker B: Well, look, I, you know, Washington statistically had a bad pass defense, and they were not ranked very high in the defensive category. So, you know, I hate to look at things on paper anymore until I see the results. So, no, you can't take anybody for granted. This team has Saquon, Barkley. They're able to score a lot of points. They have an excellent run game. And defensively, if they're playing with a lead, any defense likes playing with the lead and can rush the passer. So we have to be able to, number one, eliminate mental errors and pre snap penalties. I mean, that has absolutely plagued us and it's just been mistakes at key times. And you saw a young player in Zach Zinter jump off sides down near the goal line and we all saw what happened after that with twelve men in the huddle and a timeout and then a delayed game and settling for a field goal. But it's just little things like that. They're unfortunately stacking up for these guys right now and it's causing them to lose games. So everybody has to be sharp. And you go in against Philadelphia, that's a fun environment to play in. It's one of the, it was always one of my most favorite stadium to play in because their fans are live and rowdy and they hate you and it's just a lot of fun to play in. So hopefully the Browns are able to feed off some of that negative energy and silence the silence the critics right now, but it starts up front with the guys. I'm always going to say that both sides of the line, of scrimmage need to control the line of scrimmage and recreate that line of scrimmage. If they can be efficient in those opportunities where they're running the ball early, there's a reason why there's only single digits in the running game in the, in the first half. It's because they're calling it, they're trying to get it established. It's not going anywhere. The more that they can establish the run game, the more they're going to be called. It won't be just a shotgun past. That's the whole game where you'll be seeing DeShawn run for his life. They have to be able to run the ball early, like, and that's what they've done in years past. That's, that was the recipe, that was the formula when they had playoff team run the ball, control the clock, take deep play action shots and pass them, getting the shotgun when you have to. So if they can be multidimensional and successful in the run game early, I think they can take this Philadelphia team down to the wire because I don't think at least guys, you know, Minnesota's having a great year. Obviously, Kansas City, we're going to see tonight.
There's some good teams, but I don't think any team is unbeatable. Just when you think you want to crown a team and say, oh, look, they're unbeatable, they give up 30 points or they, you know, have a couple interceptions or turnovers. That's what's the beauty of the NFL. It's every, any given Sunday, I hate to be cliche, but you can, you can show up and get your butt kicked week in and week out and then come out and just, you know, turn the table. So if this is the week to do it, it would be a great one when everybody's counting you out, show up, button everything up and get a win.
[01:39:20] Speaker D: Absolutely love it.
[01:39:22] Speaker A: I know, I know we're towards the end of time here, John, and I will say, at first you made me feel really bad.
I feel like a little bit better now. Like, I was all doom and gloom and like, I feel like there's some silver lining and some hope all of a sudden. But I did want to ask you just before we let you go because it kind of seems like today especially kind of all of a sudden, the national media has finally caught on and is asking questions about Deshawn.
How much longer can you kind of go down this road if the performance isn't there? I mean, obviously, like, we laid out, there's a bunch of problems, but the fact is he's 7th, I think, in the league in attempts and last in yards. This offense hasn't been doing well.
Like, how much longer can, can you ride that experiment out? And, like, where are you in terms of, like, would you like to see what this offense can do under Jameis Winston? Obviously, we've had success last year with Joe Flacco, DTR, PJ Walker, a number guys, and it just seems like for whatever reason, either Stefanski and him are on the same page, we just, we just haven't seen good, a good version of Deshawn yet.
[01:40:30] Speaker B: Yeah. Before I answer that, I'm sorry for being so gloom and doom when we started the call, but just, I'm trying to process everything that I just saw.
[01:40:38] Speaker D: You're a fan now, John, in that.
[01:40:40] Speaker B: Guardian, in that Guardians game. So.
But you. Yeah, to answer your question, look, if you were just to pull Deshawn and put Jamis in there in that last game, do we expect it to look night and day different? I don't know. I can't answer that.
Is Jamis miraculously able to avoid sacks and pressures on a lot of the throws? I don't know. Are guys all of a sudden going to start catching the ball when the ball is there? I can't say that for sure. Maybe he puts, you know, doesn't miss as many throws as DeShawn has or some of the throws that Deshawn's missed. Maybe Jamis puts on the money. Do they have the penalties? They do. Do they have the misalignments and the twelve men in the huddle and the procedural penny penalties? I don't know. So I think that's an easy thing for everybody to say, especially the national media. They're not paying attention. All of a sudden they smell blood in the water and they, it's, it's just bulletin board material for them. They want to jump all over it. But for me, I don't, I'm not ready to throw it away. I get it. That's, that's the, that's going to be the first move because when all else fails, you have to make a change. I would agree with that. But, you know, who's making that ultimate decision? I don't know if it's Kevin Stefanski. I don't know who it is in that building. I honestly can't say. I would think Kevin Savansky, coach of the year, twice in a row or two, time coach of the year. You know, he obviously understands that something has to change and that would, that's most likely, you know, in history, when somebody, that offense is, you know, sputtering, you make a change of quarterback, you know, you can't make a change at receiver, you can't make a change at left guard. You know, those are all little things. The quarterback is the obvious change you make. But right now, guys, I don't know if that, that's going to cure all of our issues. It might, it might help and at some point they're going to reach the point of no return and need a spark and look to someone else to provide that. But there's a lot of other glaring issues that are not Deshaun that are causing the problems and the issues that they're losing. Can Deshaun play better? Absolutely. Can we expect James to come in there and I have a magical second half of the year like Flaco? I don't know. Hopefully we don't have to find out. Hopefully they turn it around. But that is the obvious change.
When it happens that they're going to go to and I just hate seeing it. I've been a part of the lines where they make change a quarterback and it sucks. You feel a part of it. You feel like you're directly responsible because a guy's getting benched and you're like, if I could have just done my job a little bit better, that's got to be the mindset moving forward.
[01:43:24] Speaker D: Yeah. And now I'm not going to let you get out of it, Kenny, Kenny had to get one more question in, but I'm not going to let you get out of it. What's your, what's your score prediction for this week, John?
[01:43:34] Speaker B: I think they get over the, I get, I think they get over the 20 points, the hump this week. I mean, it's got to happen.
You know, I know Vegas has it somewhere around 40, 44, 45. So I'm thinking that we kick a late one and we win 24, 21.
[01:43:53] Speaker D: Nice. I like that. Our boardman, his favorite player is Dustin Hopkins. So he'll be excited to hear it.
[01:44:00] Speaker B: You know, I jokingly said I'm going to buy a Cory Borquez jersey and I said I might. And then this past week I said, actually, yes, now I am, you know, but same thing in special teams. There's, there's been, you know, flashes of brilliance and then there's been mistakes there. So it's, it's every facet of the team right now, you know, just needs to get on the right track.
[01:44:23] Speaker D: Well, I like how optimistic you are, so, and I, and I appreciate it. Again, you, you started there after the hangover from the Guardians. You started us low and then you, you continually built us up throughout this entire segment and I'm feeling pretty good. I might have to change some predictions.
Yeah, I feel like we're ready to go.
[01:44:42] Speaker B: It's funny. And that's, it's Monday. Why go through the week? Why go through the week and just stress yourselves out all week?
Now that I'm a fan and I do this for fun, I do your show, I do the radio, people get so angry at me. They're just like, how can you say that? You're nuts. And I'm like, look, this isn't my job. I used to play. It feels like it was 100 years ago. I'm just saying what I think and I, and having fun with it. Don't get mad at me. I'm not like, I got more, I get more hate now that I do things like this than I did when I played and I think it's hilarious.
[01:45:15] Speaker D: Leave John Greco alone.
[01:45:17] Speaker A: We love having you on, John. We appreciate your thoughtfulness and the candid responses to the questions. It's been awesome.
[01:45:23] Speaker B: I think it's funny that it's hilarious to me that when I played, I would get attacked, obviously, but it's way worse now. I'm like, why are you mad at me? My opinion?
[01:45:34] Speaker D: I will say Cleveland has the best fans, but they can also be ruthless.
[01:45:37] Speaker B: So it's the best fans there's hands down. I've played for other teams and through everything, it's always the best fans. I can say that for sure.
[01:45:50] Speaker D: And I will say it is one consistent with every alumni we've ever talked to that's played for the Browns. They say my time in Cleveland was a highlight of my career. Of course.
[01:45:58] Speaker A: We're big fans of you, John Greco.
[01:46:01] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm just messing around. I love having fun.
[01:46:04] Speaker D: No, but, hey, again, thank you for joining us. Once again, everybody, this has been former Browns offensive lineman, our offensive correspondent and dear friend of the show, John Greco. John, thank you so much, guys.
[01:46:17] Speaker B: Thank you for having me.
[01:46:31] Speaker D: God, I love having John Greco on the show.
[01:46:33] Speaker A: Greco is super insightful and thoughtful.
[01:46:37] Speaker D: Oh, my God.
[01:46:38] Speaker A: Just an exquisite breakdown of kind of where we're at today.
[01:46:43] Speaker D: Yeah. Like Fox Sports, all these other big, big networks. Like, get John Greco. Yeah. He knows what he's talking about.
[01:46:50] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. It's amazing.
I think that maybe he has some other reasons why he doesn't want to do it full time right now. But if there was anybody that was made for, like, primetime television, breaking down sports, John Greco is a guy that should be there sooner rather than later.
So obviously pointed out a number of things that to me, I guess, like, you can kind of point to.
It almost is, like, cultural. Right? I mean, he's talking about guys playing together, being on the same page. Everybody has to do their assignment.
Guys are looking out for each other and it's just like, it feels like that just doesn't exist on this team right now. He mentioned, like, they don't have an identity. When you think about the. The run game that this team used to have, the kind of zone play action passes passed up, that Stefanski. One, two.
[01:47:35] Speaker D: We don't do that anymore.
[01:47:36] Speaker A: The year awards doing doesn't exist in this offense anymore. And so really, truly, what is the identity this offense is? And it's. And it's a failed attempt at running a custom DeShawn offense is really what the identity has come to be, which is super unfortunate. And I just don't know what it takes to just be like, just. Just go back. And John had a good point during that interview, which is like, they're on the Philadelphia and don't have time to just go back and, like, reconfigure.
[01:48:05] Speaker D: I thought that was the most insightful thing, because you hear not just us, but, like, everybody, you hear them talk about, like, we got to get back to the basics. We got to get back to doing this right and whatever. And he's. He's like, there's no time for that. Like, it's bad.
[01:48:16] Speaker A: I'm.
[01:48:16] Speaker D: Yeah, we just have to work through it and kind of fix this thing on the fly.
[01:48:20] Speaker C: What do you say? We had, like, focus on the twist, the defense aligned twist. Stop that this week. Like, make that a point.
[01:48:28] Speaker A: And the thing is, it just sounds like it's just guys that are just being caught off, either off guard or not paying attention, where they're complacent. And then they just get these errors, these small errors just compound, and then you end up with the explosion. Was Deshaun Watson walking off the field.
[01:48:42] Speaker D: I loved when he talked about errors compounding to make, like, a bigger problem, because I have a customer. I used to have a customer, and his, one of his big sayings for, like, making his business a success was, we like to stack fractions here. And it's like every little thing matters. When little things, when you're doing little things right, it may not in the moment look like a big deal, but at the end of the day, when these, you stack these fractions, and that turns into bigger chunks, bigger pieces. The pie, all of a sudden, like, everything has synergy. It's got synergy. It's falling into place, and you're doing things well. You're a well oiled machine, and that's what the Browns need to work on, doing the little things right and stacking those fractions so they can get in a better spot to win football games.
[01:49:26] Speaker A: And I just fear that, like, this thing is cultural to some degree. Like, clearly. And just being somebody that grew up in sports, listen to coaches talk like, that's the hardest thing to change about any team, period. No matter what sports you're playing, whether it's work, whether it's sports, changing the culture of an organization is so hard to do.
[01:49:47] Speaker D: It's so easy to do it in the wrong direction and so hard to do it in the right direction.
[01:49:51] Speaker A: Right. Cause all it takes is one or two negative voices to completely bring it down if everybody's not bought in. And I think that's what Greco was kind of speaking about is like, everybody has to be bought into doing their job and looking out for the other guy.
You know, I think another interesting point was like, he's not really ready to pull a plug on Deshawn yet. I think he kind of alluded to, like, that's eventually you have to really affect any kind of significant change on your offense. But, but that, you know, the, when that does happen, it has a ripple effect throughout your team because the guys that are supposed to be protecting Deshawn and running the ball for Deshaun and catching the ball for Deshawn all feel like now that they've let a guy down, whether they like him or not, professionally, you feel like you didn't do your job because this guy got benched.
[01:50:37] Speaker D: For it right now. And I thought that was a great point, too, because we've talked about possibly the team not being inspired anymore, not trusting Deshawn. I just talked about it right before that segment, and according to John, at least everything he's seen in professional football is. That's just not the case because they take it so personally. As far as, like you said, if they get pulled, that's, that's on me, too.
[01:51:00] Speaker A: So I'd have done my job better, this guy.
[01:51:02] Speaker D: So it's almost like it's a non factor. Like, it doesn't matter if he inspires them or not. They're going to do everything they possibly can to play as well as they can. It's just, for whatever reason, it's not happening right now.
[01:51:11] Speaker A: Yeah, I will say, like, he did, he did kind of bring it. Like, it was a super reality check at the beginning of that conversation and I felt really bad. But, like, then he started to kind of like, like build it up and, and give us some.
[01:51:24] Speaker D: I thought he gave us a motivational speech. Like, I was ready to play this week. I was like, can I suit up? Can I help the Browns win?
[01:51:29] Speaker A: Like, it's not all as bad as it seems to be. My only criticism there is, and I think John was incredibly candid with us and, and very thoughtful. But, like, in terms of making that change to a new quarterback, I'm just. Of the mindset that I would rather do that before the season is lost.
[01:51:46] Speaker D: Yes.
[01:51:47] Speaker A: I don't want to wait until you're one and seven, one and eight, one and nine and you go, well, we're looking at the first pick in the draft. We're one in four right now.
If you, if you win three games, I mean, all sudden you're close to the. You're going in close to your buy at 500. You still have something to play for this year. So I'd rather find out now.
[01:52:08] Speaker D: I agree. Jamis isn't basically you lose, like, two more games before you win any. It's overdeveloped.
[01:52:13] Speaker A: And then you throw Jameson and it's kind of like, for what? Like, just to just approve a point. Like.
And maybe you get to that point, but I just. I would rather do it while it still means something.
[01:52:23] Speaker D: Yeah, I agree. I agree. Bone, you have any thoughts on Greco?
[01:52:27] Speaker C: I loved hearing his insight on the O line. Just his insider knowledge on things that we're not seeing because I don't know the game well enough to speak on that. So just hearing, especially from, like, the.
[01:52:37] Speaker D: Offensive line perspective, like, I've never played.
[01:52:39] Speaker C: And it's from a guydeh watched growing up, literally suit up in the, you know, the brown and orange. So it's just cool, you know, to hear from him. But.
[01:52:46] Speaker D: Yeah, but with that, let's go ahead and get our next segment here. It's time for gassed up.
All right. It's that time again, boys. Is there anything you're gassed up about? I'm gonna start with.
I'll start with me. I'll just keep this train rolling. I'm pissed off about Browns fans. I'm gassed up about Browns fans right now, specifically. I'm gassed up about Browns fans. That will come on all your social media posts on all of our stuff that we post, and they'll argue with you if you have any criticism of the team or any criticism of Deshaun Watson, specifically. And not to make this, like, a political thing, but, like, if you don't like Deshaun Watson, you're racist. Like, just because he's playing poorly doesn't mean I'm racist. Like, that doesn't make any sense.
[01:53:43] Speaker A: It doesn't compute.
[01:53:44] Speaker D: No, that doesn't make any sense. Like, and each week it actually just builds the argument. Like, maybe you are. No, no.
[01:53:50] Speaker A: You are a racist.
[01:53:51] Speaker D: I'm not. But I just.
[01:53:53] Speaker A: You're in denial.
[01:53:53] Speaker C: Deshawn was good at football. He now sucks at football.
[01:53:57] Speaker D: Yeah, right. Like, I fully acknowledge that he was a very good football player at one time. That time is not now. And so that just gets me gassed up. Cause I'm like, that's just a. It's just such a cop out as a argument for him. Like, there's actually not many of them, but there are a few stats that you can point to to say this isn't all his fault.
[01:54:16] Speaker A: Yeah, you can look at sacks and drops and all those things and like, yeah, some of these things would have gone differently.
[01:54:20] Speaker D: Right. And so use those.
[01:54:23] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:54:24] Speaker D: Like, don't use the other couple of.
[01:54:26] Speaker A: Long bottles that Amari dropped. I mean, he would have went from 180 yards in a game to 260 yards.
[01:54:30] Speaker D: Yeah. And then. Yeah, no, I. Absolutely. And on the other side of it, the criticism of the team, it's like if you criticize this team or start talking negatively about the coaching staff or any of the players right now, all of a sudden you're not a true Browns fan and you need to go.
[01:54:44] Speaker A: Follow somebody else, support the team no matter what.
[01:54:46] Speaker D: Yeah. Like, I'm sorry, I will never do that.
[01:54:49] Speaker C: Never.
[01:54:49] Speaker D: We've lost long enough. Like, I'm not going to sit here and just not voice my opinion about a team, that I am a diehard fan. Like, I watch the Browns every week, even when it's hard. Like, we have families, we have other things going on. And guess what? If it's on my phone in my hand, I'm sitting there, like, sneaking peeks at the Browns game even when they're losing 34 to 13.
Don't tell me I'm not a true Browns fan because I have some criticisms of what's, what's going on with the team right now. Like, they're, they're being poorly run right now. They're being poorly coached. They don't have an offense, they don't have a defense. They can't pass, they can't run.
[01:55:29] Speaker A: Like they're playing water polo.
[01:55:31] Speaker D: What do you mean? I'm not allowed to say those things out loud, and it makes me not a Browns fan. I still love the team. I'm going to show up for them.
[01:55:39] Speaker A: I just don't know, like, what other part of life that attitude is reflective of. Like, what other thing in your life that goes wrong that you're not? Like, let's point out the problem and come up with a solution or at least talk about it. Instead, you're just like, I will blindly follow this no matter what.
[01:55:55] Speaker D: Makes no sense. It drives me nuts.
And I could have got a lot more fired up right now, but I tried to keep it civil because Browns fans are our fans on here and not everybody, a lot of our followers are not the problem.
But there is a contingency of Browns fans don't just be a part of the problem that are the whole problem.
[01:56:15] Speaker A: Yeah, I had a number of run inside this weekend. I mean, just, I was just pointing out that, like, this team had a bad line last year with Jaron Christian, James Hudson, and Nick Harris and Joe Flacco was still successful, and they were like, well, Baker Mayfield's line is much better than ours. And I was like, that wasn't Baker Mayfield's line. Like, if, you know, we weren't even on the same page. You're calling me a bad fan. You don't even know who these guys play for, right? Get out of my mentions.
[01:56:36] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah. It's just crazy. But that's like I said, I'm going to stop now before I get.
I don't. I don't want to call names and stuff, but that's where it was gonna head, so. Kenny or. Nah, we'll go to Bone. Bone, what's getting you gassed up?
[01:56:51] Speaker C: All right, so it's kind of a cop out, but freaking traffic on route eight south.
[01:56:56] Speaker A: I thought he was coming home. I thought he was gonna say Jonas brothers.
[01:56:59] Speaker C: No, I love them.
[01:57:01] Speaker D: I was gonna say that maybe they're not too good when they're a. What's a foursome? Like, not a menagerie trois, but, like, menage quad. Menager quad? Yeah, when they're.
[01:57:11] Speaker A: Yeah, they're a massage quad.
[01:57:12] Speaker D: They're not very good at that. But Bone just reiterated that he loves them.
[01:57:18] Speaker A: He still didn't deny it.
[01:57:19] Speaker C: Still hasn't denied it.
[01:57:22] Speaker A: Sorry, Bone, we hijacked your segment.
[01:57:24] Speaker C: No, that's all right.
Yeah, everybody hates traffic, obviously, but route eight south is just terrible. And I've been driving it for seven years, and it's been under construction that entire time.
[01:57:36] Speaker D: The interchange is going to be so nice when it's.
[01:57:38] Speaker C: Wait, I watched that bridge.
[01:57:39] Speaker D: When it's done, it's going to be.
[01:57:40] Speaker C: So I'm just, like, looking out the window as I drive past that bridge being built next to me in a corn there, and I'm like, wow. They pushed out a little bit further today. They added some new pieces. I'm like, that's cool. I should probably watch the road.
There was a bunch of accidents, apparently today.
[01:57:55] Speaker D: My wife just got rear ended recently, so don't be. Watch the road, bone.
[01:57:58] Speaker A: It's okay. He's insured.
[01:57:59] Speaker D: That's true. You're insured. You're irresponsible, dude.
[01:58:02] Speaker C: No joke. A couple months ago, I'm driving through the underpass there, and I hit my brakes so hard and just rip them. And because somebody stopped in front of me, and I look in behind me, somebody got smashed behind me because they put their brakes on, and I drive out unscathed, and I'm looking back at the two lanes of traffic behind me that you have to go through this narrow corridor there under the route eight underpass there. And I'm literally the only one on the road now because everybody behind me got stopped. That's why I was like, that sucks for those people. But I made it home on time, right?
[01:58:32] Speaker D: South.
[01:58:32] Speaker C: Yeah. So I was just in a rush today. You know, I had a dentist appointment I needed to go to. I had to come here. I had to eat dinner. Just. It was a busy day, and everybody was crashing on the highway, and I was just at standstill traffic, and I ended up taking, you know, a roundabout way home down, you know, through Akron, down Arlington, blah, blah, blah. But I just. I haven't spoken out about route eight traffic, and it just made me mad.
[01:58:55] Speaker D: Today, you Akron people, you know what we're talking about.
[01:58:58] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. It's miserable. I live right by it.
[01:59:01] Speaker D: I come home that way every day.
[01:59:02] Speaker A: It's terrible.
[01:59:03] Speaker D: Yep.
[01:59:03] Speaker C: And everybody will tell you, oh, Akron, it's not. It's way better than any other city in the country. But I live here.
[01:59:09] Speaker A: Oh, no.
[01:59:10] Speaker C: So suck it.
[01:59:10] Speaker A: Especially the central interchange. And rush hour is just miserable and absolutely terrible.
Yeah, Kenny, I try to avoid route eight at all. Like, I'll go any other way, like, to and from Cleveland.
[01:59:22] Speaker D: I have noticed my.
I always have my Google maps on specifically to watch for speech reps.
And so I've noticed lately it started to take me through, like, Talmage area back to my house.
[01:59:36] Speaker A: So, yeah, yeah, I will avoid it all. Christine's always running the gps. If we go somewhere and she's like, why are you going this way? And I'm like, I am not getting on route eight. I just won't do it.
[01:59:45] Speaker D: You ain't tricking me, Kenny. What's getting you guessed up?
[01:59:48] Speaker A: What am I guessed about? Want to know for a change? It's not something I'm pissed off about. Okay, I'm excited. I'm excited.
[01:59:54] Speaker D: What are you excited about?
[01:59:55] Speaker A: This Saturday was an absolute bloodbath in the top football. Seven top 25 teams lose, including Alabama.
[02:00:05] Speaker D: Hell, yeah.
[02:00:05] Speaker A: Going down Van Dandy, van du side.
[02:00:11] Speaker D: All you people talking about how Ohio state's overrated. Just get the fuck out of here.
[02:00:15] Speaker A: Side. Guest up, notable about Vandy. I'm hopeful that with nil, like, come on, let's get some of these country music stars, like, invested there in Nashville and start bringing in, like, blue chip players there.
[02:00:26] Speaker D: I'm in.
[02:00:26] Speaker A: I mean, you got guys, like, all these beautiful campus. All these guys have bars and, yeah, Vandy is beautiful. Nashville is a great city. Like, this should be a, like a hotspot for nil, right? Like, all these guys that have bars, church and Blake Shelton, kid rock. And like, yeah, these guys should just be loading Vandy up with nil money to get the best players. Like, Vanderbilt should be a powerhouse.
[02:00:46] Speaker D: Yeah. One more thing. On the whole, you know, people's comparisons, Ohio State and Alabama, everybody talks about how soft Ohio State schedule been so far. At least we beat them all. Sure.
[02:00:56] Speaker A: Gotta play who's on a schedule I haven't lost?
And also, just like, the girls at Vanderbilt, like, super hot. Like, this should be like a bunch of college dudes lining up to go to Vanderbilt. But I digress.
[02:01:08] Speaker D: We made quite a few trips to Nashville. So Kenny was looking.
[02:01:12] Speaker A: I mean, just the fact that, like, they carried that goalpost into the Cumberland river, down Broadway and into the Cumberland river this week.
[02:01:18] Speaker D: Do you remember that time, you remember that time that chick asked you? Yeah.
[02:01:23] Speaker A: We're not gonna go there.
Anyway, I'm Ben Franklin.
So anyway, what I'm guessing about this week is Ohio State, Oregon, this two versus three. Yeah. Undefeated. The Buckeyes finally get a litmus test. The NCAA to Rice Point earlier has to fix this early season scheduling. I know there's some things, but, like, it's trash. Ohio State is 50 and it played like three quarters of meaningful football.
Like, I know the schedule.
[02:01:53] Speaker D: They did hump Michigan State.
[02:01:54] Speaker A: The schedule is the schedule and you can only be the teams in front of you. But look, I just like.
[02:02:00] Speaker D: And they just played the Hawkeyes last week. They were, they were four and one.
[02:02:02] Speaker A: They finally get in the Big Ten football. But, like, the schedule was a joke before that.
[02:02:06] Speaker D: Oh, yeah, absolutely. 100%.
[02:02:07] Speaker A: And like, as college football fans, we deserve better than to be watching them.
[02:02:11] Speaker D: Especially since it's a twelve team playoff now. Like, come on.
[02:02:13] Speaker A: Yeah, like, give us some big matches. We should be seeing Ohio State, Oregon, like matchups like this every week, all season long. Like, that would be entertaining football. Yes. But anyways, I digress. Again, by all accounts, this team has, is Uber talented. Will Howard, I think has been as good as he's ever had advertised. Jeremiah Smith is just absolutely lightning Mecca. Bucca. Probably a guy's going to play in the NFL. Kinshawn, Judkins Treyveon Henderson, James Peoples, Caleb Downs, Sonny Stiles, Jack Sawyer. Playmakers just all over.
[02:02:46] Speaker D: Jeremiah Smith might win a Heisman while he's at Ohio State.
[02:02:48] Speaker A: Yeah, very possible. He's gonna be nominated for one probably twice.
And we just. I think we've heard all offseason this, like, this might be the most talented roster of all time. And we just. At Ohio State and we just haven't seen them play anyone yet. So I am just super turned to see number two versus number three in what should be a classic ten matchup.
[02:03:09] Speaker D: Now with Oregon being a classic Big.
[02:03:10] Speaker A: Ten matchup, bucks open is a four point favorite against the woke snowflake. Oregon ducks just love just the dichotomy of, like, midwest, like, farm boys. Just. I know there's from all over now, but just let me have my moment. West farm boys just taking on, like, just the most woke state in the country. Just. And we're just. I just hope we pummel them girly men.
[02:03:33] Speaker D: Yeah.
So you're guessed up.
[02:03:35] Speaker A: I'm guessed. I can't wait. This is exciting as I've been about college football all year long.
[02:03:39] Speaker D: Nice. I like that. I like that. I also have this, like. Like, just weird, obsessive hate of Oregon for some reason. I don't know why. I just hate them.
[02:03:48] Speaker A: Probably just cause they suck.
[02:03:49] Speaker D: Probably cause when I really started getting a college football is, like, when they started, like, doing all the different jerseys and, like, they were really like. I just didn't like it. We're Ohio State. Like, we're. We have the most classic jerseys in the game.
[02:04:01] Speaker A: Their claim to fame is for nil is jerseys. Vanderbilt has hot chicks and super bars.
[02:04:07] Speaker D: Choose wisely.
[02:04:08] Speaker A: Choose wisely.
[02:04:09] Speaker D: Yeah. But with that, let's get into the king of the North.
[02:04:12] Speaker B: I don't know where you're getting your statistics.
[02:04:15] Speaker D: King of the north.
Okay. I know this is your favorite part of the show, Ken, so it's mine. Yeah.
[02:04:31] Speaker A: Great.
[02:04:32] Speaker D: In case anyone doesn't know by now, this is our year long AFC north pickup competition. At the end of the season, whoever comes in last place gets punished. In the preseason last year, Kenny had a gross of eggs thrown at him by fans in the muni lot before a game in the preseason. This year, Kenny had his head and beard shaved clean off.
[02:04:48] Speaker A: My head shaved clean.
[02:04:49] Speaker D: I did it again. Your hair. Your hair. Your hair and beard shaved clean off. That's a lot of hair donated, Kenny.
[02:04:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[02:04:56] Speaker D: You were looking.
[02:04:57] Speaker A: You were looking.
[02:04:58] Speaker D: You were looking like fat Jesus. So fat. Silver Fox Jesus. That's what you were looking like.
[02:05:03] Speaker A: What was it? Movie with Edward Norton. American history act. I could have been. I could have played a part in.
[02:05:06] Speaker D: That after it was done. Yeah. Yeah. You went.
[02:05:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[02:05:10] Speaker A: Yeah, I was.
[02:05:10] Speaker D: Yeah.
[02:05:11] Speaker A: After neo nazi after that.
[02:05:12] Speaker D: Yeah, it was terrible. You went from fat fat, Silver fox Jesus to Edward clean fat, fat, fat, fatty, fat, fat, fat.
Punishment this season will be you have to go to a public pool, get in, and then publicly announce that you have peed and said pool. Kenny, are you so excited to do it?
[02:05:30] Speaker A: Doing it? I'm not doing it. I'm not going to lose.
[02:05:32] Speaker D: All right, well, let's get into things. First. Things first. I want to remind everyone that bone is the reigning, defending king of the North.
[02:05:39] Speaker A: Kenny, your clown bone could suck it.
[02:05:43] Speaker D: Let's remind everybody of the current standings after week five.
Bone is sitting at top of standings at eight and eleven. We're doing well this year, boys.
[02:05:52] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Bringing it back.
[02:05:53] Speaker D: I'm right behind him at seven and twelve. And Kenny bringing up the rear, as always, at six and 13.
I know you're only one game back, but it feels like you're 100 games back.
So let's go ahead and get into this week's games.
We'll start with Cincinnati. Cincinnati heads to new York to take on the New Jersey. Right. East East Rutherford to take on the Giants.
[02:06:15] Speaker A: We'll start with Sunday Night Football, isn't it?
[02:06:18] Speaker D: Yeah, I think so. Kenny, who you got in this one?
[02:06:21] Speaker A: Look, I know the Giants have, like, won games somehow. I mean, they beat us two and three, but they're as fraudulent as can be. They kind of won in a goofy fashion this week, and they're just not good. Cincinnati, on the other hand, as we talked about earlier, might be the best one in four team ever.
Like 400 yards at four touchdowns.
[02:06:40] Speaker D: 392.
[02:06:41] Speaker A: I think that Cincinnati is riding the ship finally. The Giants are a bad team that look primed to be beaten by just about anyone in. Cincinnati's up next. So I'll go Bengals.
[02:06:54] Speaker D: Yep. And I'm going to go Bengals as well, for all the reasons you just said. Don't even have to explain it more. The Bengals are just better.
[02:06:59] Speaker A: Yeah.
[02:06:59] Speaker D: So, bone.
[02:07:01] Speaker C: Yeah, Cincinnati. I know Malik neighbors is out this week. I guess they still won, but I'm not sure his status. But if he doesn't play again, then.
[02:07:07] Speaker D: How do you win with.
[02:07:09] Speaker A: I don't know.
[02:07:10] Speaker D: I don't know that I felt weird.
[02:07:11] Speaker A: They had some goofy shit going.
[02:07:12] Speaker D: Yeah. Next up here, Baltimore hosts the commanders who just shit all over us.
Bone, who you got?
[02:07:18] Speaker C: Man? That's a hard one.
It's in Baltimore.
[02:07:22] Speaker D: It's in Baltimore, man.
[02:07:24] Speaker C: They're playing good. I got to go. Baltimore.
[02:07:28] Speaker D: Okay, Kenny, I'll go with you.
[02:07:31] Speaker A: Yeah. This was the hardest one this kick.
I would not be surprised to see the commanders win this game. They're playing that well. That being said, I think Baltimore is showing that they are the class of the AFC right now, along with teams like Kansas City.
That, that rushing attack between Lamar and Derek Henry is frightening to say the least. They've got a lot of young players on defense that seem to have embraced Ravens culture and are playing pretty well.
And I just, I just think that this team can score as many points as they need to win any game. So I'm going to go Baltimore.
[02:08:08] Speaker D: Yeah. And I'm going Baltimore, too. I just do it with them finally unlocking King Henry and him just running all over, just running wild on bitches. Like, it's just been crazy over there. These last two games have just been a sight to see. Like, that's the run game the Browns want to have and we never do.
[02:08:27] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, to me, this is like, if the Browns were good, like, they're going to probably play. They're going to do what the Browns should do to a team like the Commanders, which, which is like, beat them. Like, take advantage of that. They have a bad defense and be opportunistic about just score more points.
[02:08:40] Speaker D: Yeah.
[02:08:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[02:08:41] Speaker C: They'll find a way to find a. They'll find the Jaden Daniels weakness.
[02:08:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
[02:08:46] Speaker C: I don't know.
[02:08:46] Speaker D: I agree. So we all got Baltimore there, and then finally the Steelers traveled to Las Vegas to take on another team that beat the Browns, the Raiders. I will start here. I've got the Steelers in this one. I know they've had a couple losses back to back. The Raiders aren't good. They're without. Devontae Adams are working on trading him right now. Max Crosby still has a high ankle sprain.
I know.
[02:09:10] Speaker A: Didn't stop us from losing to them.
[02:09:11] Speaker D: No, no, no. But we're really bad. The Steelers, even though the Steelers, I don't classify as a great team by any stretch of the imagination, they're better than we are right now.
And so I like the Steelers in this one. I do think it'll be close, but I like the Steelers.
Kenny, who you got?
[02:09:31] Speaker A: Yeah, I think the Raiders are finally going to go with Aiden O'Connell as their starter going forward.
So that's all I need to know. Steelers will win this game and they're coming up a tough loss against the Cowboys team.
[02:09:45] Speaker D: Is that what you were just checking? So who the starting quarterback is?
[02:09:50] Speaker A: No, but I could check that if you.
[02:09:52] Speaker D: No, you don't have to. I thought that's what you were doing and you're like, oh, Aidan O'Connell. Yeah, I'm going Steelers.
[02:09:57] Speaker A: I think they might have benched Gardner during this game.
[02:10:00] Speaker D: They did.
[02:10:00] Speaker A: And they've kind of decided to go with a no connell going forward.
But the Steelers are coming up.
[02:10:04] Speaker D: The bold strategy captain. Let's see how that pays off for him.
[02:10:07] Speaker A: A close game against Dallas, and I know we all don't think a whole lot of Dallas, but like, there was a hard fought, emotional game that came right down to the wire.
I think this team, you know, rights their ship this week against the Raiders.
[02:10:18] Speaker D: Yep. Bone, who you got?
[02:10:20] Speaker C: Yeah, I can't pick against the Steelers. Really well coached team. Kind of all the same reasons. I know it's. It's west coast for them, too, but I don't think they have the same issues as we do.
[02:10:30] Speaker D: Yeah. And then, bone, coming right back to you. The final game here is the Browns continuing the road trip in Philly as they take on the Eagles. We got bone.
[02:10:40] Speaker C: I've continued to see nothing that points in the direction of Brown's win. Unless Jameis Winston comes in and lights a fire, Browns are going to lose. So Eagles, man, I'll go 25 ten today.
That's bad podcast right there.
[02:11:05] Speaker D: Awesome.
Awesome.
Kenny, what do you got in this one?
[02:11:10] Speaker A: Yeah, I know the Eagles have struggled to this point, have underperformed certainly in some aspects. I know the last two weeks they have not scored over 16 points, which makes them a lot like us. However, with Devonta Smith and AJ Brown coming back probably this week, I think this offense gets. It looks a lot more like it did early in the season when they were winning games and handily. I'm going to go. Eagles 29, Browns 1320, 913.
[02:11:37] Speaker D: So we all agree this is gonna be a blowout because I have the Eagles as well. The Browns are playing some of the worst football I've ever seen in my entire life.
To your point earlier, bar none, they don't even. They hardly look like an actual football team right now.
[02:11:52] Speaker A: No, just the pads and helmet. That's it.
[02:11:54] Speaker D: Yeah.
Yeah. Like, that's the only thing telling my, my two year old that she's watching football is that they have pads and helmets on.
But yeah, I got the Eagles and I don't think it's close. I actually have them scoring more points than both of you guys. I got 31 to 15 Eagles.
And you notice none of us have the Browns going over 20 again, so near feels bad.
So we're sorry to our listeners, but the Browns are going to get humps like as much as John Greco tried. As much as John Greco tried to build us up and give us some hope, and he thinks the Browns are going to win a close 124 21 one. We all disagree strongly.
[02:12:29] Speaker A: Yeah, this seems just not going anywhere fast. Unless, like Bone said, or you said in your player to watch, like, if James gotta step into this game somehow. Yes, I think, yeah, they absolutely have a shot. But until this team does something different, like, I'm just not. I have zero faith that they're going to play a competitive football game.
[02:12:50] Speaker D: Fair.
[02:12:50] Speaker A: Fair.
[02:12:51] Speaker D: And with that, let me remind you to call the burning of sportscast hot take hotline.
Leave your hot takes on the hot take hotline. Remember, these are hot takes. We want hot takes. We want hot takes. We want hot takes.
[02:13:01] Speaker A: We do want hot takes.
[02:13:02] Speaker D: We have a hot take.
[02:13:03] Speaker A: We do have a hot take. So we actually do have a hot take. It came in right before recording last week, so we missed it. So it would be a week old at this point, but we'd love to play it for you.
[02:13:11] Speaker D: It still tracks.
[02:13:12] Speaker A: Still tracks.
[02:13:13] Speaker D: So we'll play that for you.
[02:13:14] Speaker A: So, yeah, here we go. It's.
[02:13:19] Speaker D: Oh, this is Robin Crusher.
[02:13:20] Speaker A: I live in northwest Ohio.
[02:13:23] Speaker D: Damn it. That watch is starting fights.
[02:13:25] Speaker B: I heard he needs bench.
[02:13:28] Speaker D: He needs to go. He can't be fighting with teammates.
[02:13:31] Speaker A: That's not nice.
[02:13:33] Speaker B: And Flacco balled out against Pittsburgh.
[02:13:36] Speaker A: We still could have had Flacco. No, we want. We want the apest. So a couple of things still ring true. Deshawn Watson was starting things with teammates, on the field, with coaches. Flacco did ball out again this week, and we. We could have had Flacco, but we wanted the apist.
[02:13:55] Speaker D: That was the last point. Right. Like, Deshaun Watson, depending on who you ask, remains an apist.
[02:14:00] Speaker A: Yes, that's true. Allegedly.
[02:14:03] Speaker D: Allegedly.
[02:14:03] Speaker A: Yeah.
[02:14:04] Speaker C: Yeah, allegedly.
[02:14:05] Speaker D: Bone, how did you feel about the hot take that we had there?
[02:14:09] Speaker C: He was passionate.
[02:14:10] Speaker D: I liked it.
[02:14:12] Speaker C: You could feel his energy and his anger through the call.
[02:14:16] Speaker D: I could feel his drunkenness.
[02:14:17] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. He was hammered.
[02:14:20] Speaker A: Those are the takes that we want, though. We love that.
[02:14:21] Speaker D: I like it. If you get drunk and need someone to call to complain about the Browns, we're here for you.
[02:14:26] Speaker A: Yeah, that's.
[02:14:26] Speaker D: We're here for. And we like that take because that's. That's a passionate fan telling you exactly how he feels about this iteration of the browns, which is their trash.
[02:14:35] Speaker A: Good enough.
[02:14:35] Speaker D: Yeah, he said everything that we've said at length in this podcast. So, I mean, that guy was a lot sort of shorter take.
[02:14:42] Speaker A: He summed it up and he did our whole pocket in 24 seconds.
[02:14:45] Speaker D: Yeah, good job, buddy.
So with that, be sure to check out, oh, the number for the hot take hotline so you can call and complain. 3302-2780-8033-02 27 80 80 33 02-2780-8033-0227 80 call now. Operators are not standing by and be sure to check out our gear. Www.thetapinmedia.com shop that'll do it for us. Kenny, what can we expect next week?
[02:15:08] Speaker A: Next week we will be live on Sunday night, right? Join us Sunday evening. Brs that's us. For another live edition of the show. We will be recapping the Browns week six game against the Philadelphia Eagles.
They play one Sunday, so we should be promptly on around 08:00 you'll see the notifications across your socials live on YouTube, Facebook and X. We hope to see you there. Hopefully you guys get in on the conversation, comment, tell us what you like, what you don't like.
Hopefully Ronnie is able to function this week after the Browns let him down again and he remembers to plug in his mic.
Thank you. Next Thursday, we'll be back to preview the week seven game against the Cincinnati Bengals, the first division game, as well as another brownsbackers interview with the Muni lot.
[02:15:55] Speaker D: Brownsbackers, wild bunch there. So check us out on social media. Tapping media is on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. At the tap media. And bring every sportscast that's this. This podcast is on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube. At burning Riverscast. On X at burning Riverpod. You can find us wherever you get your podcast. I'm talking Apple Podcast, Spotify, YouTube music, Amazon Music, Stitcher, Pandora, iHeartRadio podcast. Good pods, good pods, good pods, good pods. Castro, so many, number one. And you know what that takes us to get a facts for days.
Kenny, what do you got for facts for days today?
[02:16:38] Speaker A: Facts for days.
[02:16:40] Speaker D: I love this part of the show.
[02:16:41] Speaker A: I got some facts.
[02:16:42] Speaker D: Let's hear em, number one. Okay.
[02:16:44] Speaker A: Oh, there's a theme today.
[02:16:46] Speaker D: Oh, what's the theme?
[02:16:47] Speaker A: Inventions.
[02:16:48] Speaker D: Inventions. You better be talking about Tesla Nair. Bad job out of you, number one.
[02:16:57] Speaker A: Elon Musk. Did you see Snoop Dogg asked for a. I know that's a different Tesla, but did you see Snoop Dogg asked for a discount on his Tesla? And Elon said, everybody pays full price for a Tesla, even me.
He said, everybody gets the family discount, and the family discount is you pay full price.
[02:17:14] Speaker D: Number one, solid business model.
[02:17:17] Speaker A: In the 1930s, swiss physicist Walter Jaeger. I know. He did not invite. Invent Jaeger bombs.
[02:17:24] Speaker D: Jaeger bombs.
[02:17:25] Speaker A: Walter Jaeger was trying to invent a sensor that could detect poison gas. Yes.
Instead, his device registered the smoke of his cigarette, a discovery that led him to the invention of the modern smoke detector. Today, nine in ten homes have smoked detectors because of this happy accident.
[02:17:45] Speaker D: Technically, by law, all of them are supposed to have them, but.
[02:17:48] Speaker A: Supposed to. But we understand, you know, fire departments do that whole thing every year where they're like, we want to raise awareness about smoke detectors because people don't have them.
[02:17:56] Speaker D: Do you got yours? Yours up to date?
[02:17:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Cause we just remodeled the house. We got all new ones.
[02:17:59] Speaker D: Good job, buddy. Bone, are you safe?
[02:18:01] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Dual folks. Dual function. It, like, it senses it. Both sides. CO2, EMT, or there's even, like, multiple ways it senses fire now, like, whether the smoke's building. Forget what it's hot, but it's able to sense both.
[02:18:14] Speaker D: Do you have the nest?
[02:18:17] Speaker A: No, I have nest.
[02:18:19] Speaker D: We have nest protect. The smoke alarm slash CO2 sensors. And they're real nice, and they all link up to each other. So, like, if there's a fire downstairs, they all go off. Like, everybody knows. Get out of the house.
[02:18:30] Speaker A: Interesting.
[02:18:31] Speaker D: It's one of my favorite smart devices. I put it on when we had our child. Like when my wife was pregnant. We put it on the baby register, and everybody told me I was insane. And then we got it, and Emily was like, this is fantastic.
[02:18:43] Speaker A: I love my nest because I'm terrified of street violence. So anytime I hear a noise, I look outside.
[02:18:47] Speaker D: You're talking about your doorbell is a nest? Yeah.
[02:18:49] Speaker A: Outside to see if there's a gang.
[02:18:50] Speaker D: We have a ring, but, yeah.
[02:18:52] Speaker C: Collapsing roofs.
[02:18:53] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[02:18:54] Speaker D: Nest protect. Look into those.
[02:18:55] Speaker A: Number two.
[02:18:57] Speaker D: This is not a paid advertisement.
[02:18:58] Speaker A: Not a paid advertisement. We just love our nest.
[02:19:00] Speaker D: Yeah.
[02:19:00] Speaker A: Number two. A man named Percy Spencer, orphaned at 18 months old, taken out of school at twelve to work in a paper mill, discovered that his local paper mill was soon to begin using electricity.
It's a concept little known in his rural home region, and he just began learning as much, much as possible about electricity when he applied to work at the mills. Young man, he was one of three people hired to install electricity in the plant. Despite never having any formal training in electrical engineering or even finishing grammar school. At the age of 18, he joined the US Navy. Became incredibly interested in wireless communications after learning about wireless operators on board the Titanic when it sank. At the Navy, he made himself an expert on radio technology.
Says he just got ahold of a lot of textbooks and taught himself anything he could while standing watch at night. He also taught himself trigonometry, calculus, chemistry, physics, and metallurgy.
After.
After World War one, he became an engineer at Raytheon, and he was known to all as an electronics genius.
Fiddling about with a microwave emitting magnetron, a piece commonly found in the innards of radar arrays. Percy suddenly felt a strange, sizzling sensation in his trousers. I know what you're thinking.
[02:20:27] Speaker D: Startled smell. That delicious, crispy smell. That's not your tailpipe. Startled. Your front pipe.
[02:20:34] Speaker A: Startled by his pants cooking, he took a pause and found that the chocolate bar in his pocket had started to melt.
[02:20:41] Speaker D: Oh.
[02:20:41] Speaker A: He figured to himself that the microwave radiation of the magnetron was to blame and immediately set out to reap the potential.
So, this led to the invention of the modern microwave. The first microwaves were approximately 500 pounds.
They cost.
[02:20:57] Speaker D: That's large.
[02:20:58] Speaker A: They cost something like $6,800, which is something like $70,000 in today's money.
[02:21:05] Speaker D: Basically something that you go to the store and get for, like, $40 now.
[02:21:08] Speaker A: Basically, some in an oven that cooks quickly.
That's.
[02:21:15] Speaker D: That's the fact. And the fact the amount of money that microwaves used to cost.
[02:21:22] Speaker A: So. But for his invention, Aratheon Spencer received no royalties. He was paid, however, a one time commission or a gratuity of $2, which was the standard token payment made to all company inventors on payroll at the time of patents.
[02:21:38] Speaker C: That's why that guy.
[02:21:40] Speaker D: That's a bad day.
[02:21:41] Speaker A: He invented the microwave and got $2.
[02:21:45] Speaker D: Feels bad.
[02:21:46] Speaker A: Yes.
[02:21:47] Speaker D: Feels really bad. You don't know something fun about microwaves. You know how they actually like how they work.
[02:21:53] Speaker A: Microwave technology.
[02:21:55] Speaker D: Yeah, but what does it do?
[02:21:56] Speaker A: They send microwaves into the food.
[02:21:58] Speaker D: But what does it do?
[02:21:59] Speaker A: It heats it up.
[02:22:00] Speaker D: How?
[02:22:01] Speaker C: Scrambles the molecule.
[02:22:02] Speaker A: They at them, heats them up, makes.
[02:22:04] Speaker D: Them vibrate really fast, and then the friction heats this, eats the food, and it can only do thing. Can only heat things up that have water in them. So if you ever wonder why a plate goes in and never gets hot, if it doesn't have anything on it, hmm. It's because there's no water in it.
[02:22:21] Speaker A: So the heat in the bottom of my plate is just coming from my food, radiating, yes.
[02:22:25] Speaker D: Has nothing, nothing to do with the plate being hot.
[02:22:28] Speaker A: Is not hot.
I'll tell it to my hand next time it burns. The plate is not hot. It's just the food.
[02:22:34] Speaker D: No, the plate is hot, but it got hot from the food transfer of energy at that point. Yeah, yeah.
[02:22:38] Speaker A: Transitive property.
[02:22:39] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah.
[02:22:40] Speaker A: Number three, interesting. All cause of a melting.
[02:22:43] Speaker D: I got so many facts, you know, I should just run facts for days.
[02:22:46] Speaker A: From now on, all because of a melted chocolate bar. I was looking up for facts for days today around inventions, and I saw a fact that said, Wifi means nothing. It's just a word made up by brand specialists. And I was like, no, wifi means wireless fidelity. So, like, I. I can't get my facts from here.
[02:23:00] Speaker D: That fact site is gone.
[02:23:02] Speaker A: This fact site has been removed from facts for days as an incredible site. Number three, Robert Chesapeake Chesborough. I always make sure I want to read Cheeseboro, but it's.
[02:23:12] Speaker D: I was going to say Chesapeake.
[02:23:13] Speaker A: Chesapero began his career as a chemist, clarifying kerosene from the oil of sperm whales. Sperm. The discovery of petroleum, however, rendered his job obsolete. So he traveled to Titusville, Pennsylvania, where petroleum was being researched and produced to research the new materials and what might be created from this new fuel. As he was strolling about the oil field, he found out about something the workers called rod wax. Also. I know what you're thinking.
The jelly like substance that was cleaned off of the pump equipment. Often Cheseboro was told it was a nuisance, except when someone had a cut or burn, they found that if neosporin, it was rubbed on an injury, it would lessen the pain and make the injury heal quicker. So by extracting petroleum jelly, he thought, I can go sell this. But he was having some trouble. People didn't believe it did what it said. So while he was unable to sell any in his stores, immediately, he began traveling to New York, demonstrating the miracle product on himself in front of an audience. He would burn his skin with acid or an open flame and then spread the clear jelly on his injuries while demonstrating past injuries, healed, he claimed, by his miracle product. Chesapero lived to be 96 years old and was just such a believer in Vaseline that he claimed to have eaten a spoonful of it every day. He died. He died in his house in lakes and Spring Lake, New Jersey, with a.
[02:24:43] Speaker D: Belly full of vaseline.
[02:24:44] Speaker A: A belly full of Vaseline. It was reported that he also went through a serious bout of pleurisy, which is like inflammation in your lungs that get, like, coated with, like, water in his mid nineties, and he had his nurse rub him from head to toe with Vaseline. Soon he recovered and credited his recovery to Vaseline.
[02:25:05] Speaker D: I'm gonna go get me some vaseline now. I'm gonna rub that all over.
[02:25:08] Speaker A: Yeah. So that's how Vaseline was invented.
[02:25:11] Speaker D: I'm officially in on, like, vaseline wrestling for days. Wow. That was incredible. What a wild ride we were just.
[02:25:18] Speaker C: On really, really good today.
[02:25:21] Speaker D: Yeah. Incredible.
Your storytelling there was top notch.
[02:25:25] Speaker A: I do. I do what I can. Try to keep you guys engrossed.
[02:25:28] Speaker D: Yeah. Clone. You have anything to say about the vaseline?
[02:25:34] Speaker C: I like using it.
Yeah.
[02:25:38] Speaker D: Do you eat it?
[02:25:39] Speaker C: I don't eat it. I do not eat it. But I put it on my lips.
[02:25:42] Speaker A: Do you use it as rod wax?
[02:25:43] Speaker C: I mean, I put it on my lips, like a version of it, essentially, you know.
[02:25:46] Speaker D: Yeah. Yeah.
[02:25:48] Speaker C: I mean, lip balm. What other products have, like, come out of, like, aquaphor? Preparation H. You know, like, all types of great things.
[02:25:55] Speaker D: Preparation H, that's your favorite.
[02:25:56] Speaker A: He thought, like, he would. He was like. If you read more about, like, this guy thought, like, this was the product of, like, future. He was like. He was like, this can be used for everything. And he wasn't really wrong. I mean, at that time, people got cuts and you get infections and die, basically. This helped, like, keep things clean and put a layer of film over top of it.
[02:26:15] Speaker D: So this guy was eating it. If somebody was eating this thing bone, what do you think they would say to him? What do you think you would say to them?
[02:26:21] Speaker C: I'm hungry talking about it, so bon appetit.
[02:26:23] Speaker A: Hungry, talking about Vaseline.
[02:26:25] Speaker D: That's weird, man.
[02:26:26] Speaker A: Don't just be a part of the problem, b. The whole damn problem.
[02:26:29] Speaker D: And only you can prevent. River fires.
[02:26:35] Speaker A: Burning river.
[02:26:36] Speaker D: Burning river.
[02:26:37] Speaker A: Burning.
[02:26:38] Speaker D: Burning. Burn.
[02:26:39] Speaker A: Burn. Burn, burning river.
[02:26:42] Speaker D: It's not unusual to be loved by anyone.
[02:26:46] Speaker A: Do we have any songs about vaseline?
[02:26:47] Speaker D: It's not unusual.
[02:26:50] Speaker A: Not unusual.
That's the song you went with? Does anyone even know the words to that song?
[02:26:56] Speaker D: What's new, pussycat? Whoa, whoa, whoa.
[02:27:00] Speaker A: What's new, pussycat?
[02:27:05] Speaker D: Burning river sports. Burning river. Burning river.
[02:27:07] Speaker A: Burning river. Burning rivers. Burning all the rivers.
[02:27:12] Speaker D: Good night, Cleveland.
[02:27:13] Speaker A: Burning river.
I'll wait for bonus to get Akron.
[02:27:19] Speaker C: Good night, Akron.
[02:27:21] Speaker A: Good night, Cleveland.
[02:27:22] Speaker D: Good night, Cleveland.
[02:27:22] Speaker A: Good night, Cleveland.
[02:27:23] Speaker D: I always go last quiet on set.
[02:27:25] Speaker A: I now have two loves in my life.
[02:27:29] Speaker D: Big city living and a voodoo woman named Phyllis. I didn't think we'd be getting into Brad Pitt's house.
[02:27:38] Speaker A: I can't even say I didn't think we'd be getting into Brad Pitt's ass.
[02:27:42] Speaker D: Yeah, I didn't think we'd get in there.
[02:27:44] Speaker A: We even talk a lot of analingus.
[02:27:45] Speaker D: On this, so put your right foot in and take your right foot out. Then put your right foot in and shut the hell up, because it's not time for the hokey pokey. It's time for the burning river sports cab motorboat. You play the motorboat?
[02:28:01] Speaker E: You motorboat son of a bitch.
[02:28:02] Speaker D: You old seal, are you.
[02:28:03] Speaker A: You know, I was thinking during that interview.
[02:28:05] Speaker D: What? What were you think? Nothing. Cause you don't have thoughts. Cause you're a brainless idiot.
[02:28:10] Speaker A: Wow. My name is Uhtred, son of Uhtred.
[02:28:13] Speaker D: By the way, I want my foreskin back. It doesn't matter what you think.
[02:28:17] Speaker A: Women's guide to anal sex. And it was the second edition. Who makes the second edition?
[02:28:23] Speaker C: The weather. Outside is weather.
[02:28:25] Speaker D: The other one, the finger. The finger eating food fingers.
[02:28:28] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[02:28:29] Speaker D: My ass is full of shit. He's shit everywhere.
[02:28:34] Speaker C: Yes.
[02:28:34] Speaker A: Ejaculate all over my body and my genitals.
[02:28:36] Speaker C: Yes.
[02:28:37] Speaker D: Oh, no. We suck again.
[02:28:40] Speaker C: You don't need fundamentals when you got heart.
[02:28:43] Speaker A: And Jesus.
[02:28:44] Speaker D: And Jesus.
[02:28:44] Speaker C: That's right.
[02:28:45] Speaker D: Touchdown number one.
[02:28:47] Speaker A: What do you mean, funny? Funny how? How am I funny?
[02:28:49] Speaker D: It's going down. I'm yelling timber.
[02:28:53] Speaker B: Goddamn, Jet.
[02:28:54] Speaker D: Do we start a meat podcast? Like. Like meat pod slow roasted?
[02:29:03] Speaker A: The leads are weak.
[02:29:04] Speaker B: Leads are weak.
[02:29:09] Speaker A: We should send a team of oil core drillers a la Armageddon to Mars to have them access the newly discovered reservoirs of water traps seven to 12 miles on the surface that, when released, will cover the entirety of everything on the planet less than a mile high.
[02:29:18] Speaker D: All I do is win, win, win no matter what. Erroneous. Erroneous on both counts. I mean, when I. Last year when I went home, you know, my wife's pants hit the ground. Wow. But damn.
[02:29:29] Speaker A: I'm sorry, I hijacked your segment for a second to do some good podcasting.
[02:29:34] Speaker D: You know why, mister?
[02:29:36] Speaker A: Cause you drove a Hyundai to get.
[02:29:38] Speaker D: Here tonight, I drove an $80,000 BMW.
[02:29:41] Speaker A: That's my name now.
[02:29:43] Speaker D: I think we've officially lost all of our more conservative viewers, so I don't think they want to listen any longer.
[02:29:50] Speaker C: It's Mother Nature.
[02:29:51] Speaker D: I live my life a quarter of a mile at a time.
[02:29:54] Speaker A: Where's logo girl when you need her?
[02:29:55] Speaker D: I desperately want to make love to.
[02:29:57] Speaker A: We need cheese girl now.
[02:29:59] Speaker D: Down, Joe Sanderson, down.
[02:30:03] Speaker A: Who's canceled now? Who's canceled now?
[02:30:06] Speaker D: Probably me.
[02:30:06] Speaker A: You making a full of fat people.
[02:30:09] Speaker D: I'm not just you.
[02:30:11] Speaker A: We're a whole race, basically.
[02:30:14] Speaker D: No way. You're just straight. Just finger banging their salad.
[02:30:20] Speaker C: You first get shocked, and then you get the shocker.
[02:30:25] Speaker A: You like to see almost naked.
[02:30:26] Speaker D: That's cool, man.
[02:30:27] Speaker A: Whatever.
[02:30:28] Speaker D: No, no, no. Most people like, they're driving along and they're like, in between meals, they're like, I'm a little hungry. I'm gonna have a granola bar. Kenny's like, I need a cheeseburger.
[02:30:37] Speaker A: Are you not entertained?
[02:30:39] Speaker D: Are you not entertained?
[02:30:43] Speaker A: Is this not why you were here?
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