Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Kenny Thunder: Tapping media.
It's time. Time for the Burning River Sportscast.
First place was nice while it lasted, but back to the bottom of the barrel and in a competitive AFC North.
As quickly as the jubilation swept across northeastern Ohio, reality set in and reminded us all what it can feel like to be a Browns fan. Unfortunately, this is what happens when your quarterback is trash. You can't run the ball, you commit silly penalties, and when you can't stop big plays on defense. This season's a long way from over, and as we've already seen, anything can happen. But I gotta be honest, I'm not overly optimistic at the moment.
We'll break it all down for you next on the Burning River Sportscast.
[00:01:11] The Bone Man: Who wrote the nude scene for John Goodman?
[00:01:14] Ronnie Jams: Kenny.
[00:01:16] Kenny Thunder: Who wouldn't want to see John Goodman nude?
[00:01:18] Ronnie Jams: That's a fair point.
[00:01:19] Speaker D: Oh, by myself.
Now that Matt and Bobby are BFFs and I'm the odd man out, I'
[00:01:30] Ronnie Jams: I think Menachem's the new favorite again.
[00:01:32] Kenny Thunder: Yeah, Menachem's back up on top because he's the only one that consistently calls every day.
[00:01:35] Ronnie Jams: He's consistent.
[00:01:36] Speaker D: Finally, remember this important lesson.
One cheek equals two feet.
[00:01:42] Speaker E: We're coming, we're coming.
[00:01:44] Speaker F: But then you take my 75% chance of winning. If we used to go one on one and then add 66 and 2/3 percents, I got 141 and 2/3 chance of winning. Creasy.
[00:01:58] Ronnie Jams: That's a great impression.
Still a lot of smoke around that name, so we'll see what happens.
[00:02:04] Kenny Thunder: Where there's smoke, there's a burning river.
[00:02:07] Ronnie Jams: Yeah, they look like John Goodman's ass.
[00:02:12] Speaker G: Down in the flats, we used to have our tailgate parties. We'd get there in the morning and the girls used to come out from Caesar Circus. Back then, that's what it was called. And party with us.
[00:02:27] Kenny Thunder: Is Cliff a person or is Cliff Amount?
[00:02:28] Ronnie Jams: I've heard a lot of different things. That's why I was asking. But I trust you.
[00:02:32] Kenny Thunder: Ergotism typically causes severe gangrene or physical incapacitation rather than coordinated dancing.
[00:02:39] Ronnie Jams: If we do that, you guarantee a win.
[00:02:41] The Bone Man: I'm guaranteeing it. It's the key to victory. You
[00:02:44] Kenny Thunder: heard it here.
[00:02:44] Ronnie Jams: It's the key to victory.
[00:02:45] Kenny Thunder: It's the key to victory.
[00:02:46] Ronnie Jams: Hear that, guys?
[00:02:47] Kenny Thunder: Yo soy, sucko Stefanski.
Realizing their mistake, authorities banned music and public dancing. Yeah, that one. Yeah. Alchemy. They loaded the random words so off the rails.
Welcome in to the Burning River Sportscast. Presented by the fine folks at Tappin Media I'm Kenny Thunder. My partner today is a lot like a software update. Every time I see him, I just think to myself, not now. He's Red Hot. Ronnie jams. And on the board today, he's more put together than I furniture. He's the big Bone man.
[00:03:28] Ronnie Jams: Whoa,
[00:03:29] Kenny Thunder: Bone. You see Elon's new restaurant on the moon?
[00:03:33] The Bone Man: No. Is it open yet?
[00:03:34] Kenny Thunder: Apparently the food is great, but there's no atmosphere.
[00:03:38] Ronnie Jams: I get it
[00:03:40] The Bone Man: cold.
[00:03:42] Kenny Thunder: Back to Red
[00:03:42] The Bone Man: Hot.
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All right, for this week's burning of our news story of the week, Thad Mata revealed this past week that J.J. sellinger recently donated a kidney to his former Ohio State basketball teammate, Terrence Dials. I don't know if you guys remember this team. It was like right around the time. I think it was like late high school for us or maybe, maybe college years, but it was.
[00:05:16] Kenny Thunder: We're pretty old.
[00:05:17] The Bone Man: They got beat in the national championship by Florida, right?
[00:05:19] Ronnie Jams: Yeah. And they had. It was a stretch of even before and after, like the main, like when they were in the national championship, they were in like Elite Eights Sweet 16 almost every year. So it was a stretch of five or six years. But both Guys from. From those teams. And Thad Mata said maybe the greatest thing that he's ever seen in his coaching career.
It's
[00:05:42] Kenny Thunder: a pretty nice gift.
[00:05:42] Ronnie Jams: Yeah.
[00:05:43] Kenny Thunder: Would you like a kidney?
[00:05:44] Ronnie Jams: Yeah. I mean,
[00:05:45] Kenny Thunder: I'd never give you my kidney.
[00:05:46] Ronnie Jams: Thank you.
[00:05:47] Kenny Thunder: I might give Bone my kidney.
[00:05:48] Ronnie Jams: Thanks.
[00:05:49] Kenny Thunder: But not you.
[00:05:53] The Bone Man: Yeah. We have different blood types, so we can't.
[00:05:57] Ronnie Jams: All right.
[00:05:58] The Bone Man: I don't really know how that works. It's got to be something to do with that, right?
[00:06:01] Ronnie Jams: I don't know. I. I don't. I don't know.
I just know that I hate Kenny.
But. No, I just. I. I thought this was a good story. There's not really much more to go with it. I mean, it's just one of those things where just some things are bigger than sports.
And clearly there was a brotherhood on that team, and there's a reason why those teams went so deep. Into the playoffs every year, playoffs into the tournament every year. Because
[00:06:27] Kenny Thunder: strong kidneys.
[00:06:29] Ronnie Jams: Yeah, strong kidneys, maybe, but. Yeah. Just a good story, a good Ohio State story to throw out there right now.
[00:06:38] Kenny Thunder: You don't want to talk about the bad Ohio State story?
Nope.
[00:06:42] The Bone Man: Yeah. What happened this past weekend?
[00:06:43] Kenny Thunder: Yeah, what happened this past weekend?
[00:06:45] Ronnie Jams: Well, the Buckeyes football team lost to usc.
[00:06:49] Kenny Thunder: How'd that go?
[00:06:50] Ronnie Jams: Not good. They lost?
Yeah.
[00:06:52] The Bone Man: You travel across the country and then you lose.
[00:06:56] Ronnie Jams: I don't understand why I'm being asked questions right now.
[00:06:59] The Bone Man: Oh, wait. We're High State fans, too.
[00:07:01] Ronnie Jams: Yeah. Yeah. You guys like them, too, right? Yeah.
[00:07:04] The Bone Man: It was a really disappointing weekend.
[00:07:05] Ronnie Jams: It was bad.
It was between that and Browns game, it was like, the worst football week.
[00:07:11] Kenny Thunder: Are they done?
[00:07:15] Ronnie Jams: I wouldn't say they're done. I mean, if they went out, they'll be in the playoffs.
[00:07:18] Kenny Thunder: I mean, can they win out?
[00:07:19] Ronnie Jams: That's a different question.
I don't know. The. The thing is, though, I know you. I know you were texting during a game and you said Fahey was garbage. I actually. The more I watched that game, I
[00:07:31] Kenny Thunder: think I said that.
I think I said this.
[00:07:34] The Bone Man: Fact checked in.
[00:07:35] Kenny Thunder: I think I said that he didn't look that bad, honestly, but that he wasn't getting a lot of help.
[00:07:40] The Bone Man: He's a little guy.
[00:07:41] Ronnie Jams: He is not big.
I like this. Sorry. I'm going through our text right now, and I like this one that you text us that. I really hope my fantasy team doesn't shit the bed this week. My fantasy team. And it's Amber. Heard one of the greatest texts all week.
[00:07:57] Kenny Thunder: Yeah, I mean, my bigger problem was with the way they Approached the game, which was looking like there was literally no urgency at any point and you're playing from behind and it just felt like they were just plotting along.
[00:08:09] Ronnie Jams: Oh, I'll give it to you. You said, you said this Fahey kid doesn't outright suck, but he sure is unlucky.
[00:08:15] Kenny Thunder: Yeah, like, he was having a really tough day. They got every bad break.
[00:08:19] Ronnie Jams: I heard a lot from a lot of people though, that he was really bad. And I was like, I don't think he was bad at all. I think his team let him down. There were so many drops in this game that would have extended drives and given us a chance to score. And like, you gotta give a kid making his first start every chance that you possibly can.
[00:08:36] Kenny Thunder: And it's a tough play. I mean, you. Look, USC isn't what they used to be, but they're not a bad program.
[00:08:41] Ronnie Jams: And I know they were unranked, but they had only lost two games.
[00:08:44] Kenny Thunder: Yeah, I mean, they're still a good program and it's a. It's a big place to go play.
So, I
[00:08:49] Ronnie Jams: mean, they hadn't won. They haven't won there.
[00:08:51] The Bone Man: It rained the whole game too, and
[00:08:53] Ronnie Jams: something stupid like 60
[00:08:54] Kenny Thunder: years. Weather wasn't great and just prime time audience. Right. Like it's. It was a big moment for a kid making his first start that really otherwise shouldn't be playing right now. I do think to some extent it validates a little bit of Julian saying. And just like we were, a lot of us, I think, were questioning, like, how good is Julian saying, and even if he isn't the best quarterback in college football, I think the offense obviously ran a lot more smoothly under his.
[00:09:22] The Bone Man: Is the team around Julian Saint just not as good as maybe we thought?
[00:09:25] Kenny Thunder: Well, I think that's a good question. Right. So it's like, how good is Julian saying maybe he was better than we were giving him credit for.
[00:09:30] Ronnie Jams: Yeah, I think that's a fair assessment. I also think. I think the biggest story that comes out of this is the fact that there's no such thing really in college football because of the transfer portal and everything. It's become as a good backup quarterback, because if you're a good backup quarterback, you're going to transfer somewhere and make a bunch of money on nil somewhere else.
[00:09:49] Kenny Thunder: Yeah, I mean, it's hard. I mean, it's hard to imagine that a program like Ohio State still can't even get guys in though, to be backups. Right. Because it's a huge program and you're a sprained ankle away from playing on national TV in front of a huge audience. So
[00:10:03] Ronnie Jams: you look at Ohio State, though, right? So they have, they typically at the beginning of any given year,
[00:10:08] Kenny Thunder: typically you'll have two, three and four recruits at every position.
[00:10:11] Ronnie Jams: Yeah. And that includes quarterback. Like, they'll have two, three guys on the roster that are phenomenal. But then every year you have one or two of those guys transferring out because they're like, you know, Julian saying is the guy right now, I'm not going to play for a while. So
[00:10:23] Kenny Thunder: I, despite the fact that it's, it's hurting Ohio State right now, I actually like what's happening in college football for the first time in a long time. Just the fact that there's, there's real parody there.
[00:10:34] Ronnie Jams: That's why all these teams have losses.
[00:10:36] Kenny Thunder: And it sucks, like, as an Ohio State fan, because we're just used to just running the table every year. But. And maybe those days are gone and behind us because as schedules get tougher and they pick up some of these out of conference matchups that are premier matchups for TV deals and just the kind of super conferences being built now, but also the nil situation with good players kind of going all over and you start looking at what the, you know, college football committee is going to have to be for the top 12 and maybe top 24 soon. But, but you're going to have a lot of teams that maybe have two, three, even four losses. Maybe like being a part of this conversation now over the next five to 10 years, which you pretty much had to go undefeated at least in your conference in the past and really be one of the top 12 teams. But like it was, it was the same top 12 teams. A lot,
[00:11:29] Ronnie Jams: a lot of controversy, too. The first rankings for the College Football Playoff were released on Sunday.
And Alabama once again getting the benefit of the doubt over every team in America for whatever reason, even though, like their, their argument was strength of schedule. But then when you dive further into it, like, it doesn't make any sense. Like a team that they lost to by 16 points is ranked like four spots behind them. So.
[00:11:53] Kenny Thunder: Well, I think that's why they're now talking about going to 24, because even at 12, like, they can't figure it out,
[00:11:58] Ronnie Jams: we're well on our way to the Division 3 football playoff that I've been talking about for years. 10 game regular season, five games to win it all.
[00:12:06] Kenny Thunder: Everybody makes the playoffs.
[00:12:09] The Bone Man: Yeah,
[00:12:09] Ronnie Jams: it's going to be phenomenal,
[00:12:12] Kenny Thunder: I
[00:12:12] Ronnie Jams: think. I think national championships would mean so much more if he
[00:12:15] The Bone Man: I'm into that. I think that'd be great.
[00:12:16] Kenny Thunder: Is there. Is there a chance Jeremiah Smith calls it.
[00:12:19] Ronnie Jams: No,
[00:12:19] Kenny Thunder: just done.
[00:12:20] Ronnie Jams: No,
[00:12:21] Kenny Thunder: I mean, thinking about, hey, I'm going to be the top one, two or three picks. Look
[00:12:24] The Bone Man: at Dante Moore. No,
[00:12:25] Ronnie Jams: he just actually made a post on social media this week about, like, not going anywhere. We got things to do, whatever. Like, he's not. He's fine. He's staying. He's going to play. If he gets hurt, that'd be really sad for him, though.
[00:12:37] The Bone Man: I wouldn't if I was him.
[00:12:38] Kenny Thunder: That's what I was kind of just thinking. Like,
[00:12:40] Ronnie Jams: you guys got to remember that he's making a lot of money now, too, so.
[00:12:43] Kenny Thunder: But you're talking about generational money. When you get to the NFL, for a guy that goes in the top five picks, I mean, that's a different.
[00:12:49] Ronnie Jams: If he performs. Marvin Harrison Jr. In the top five. Now he asks.
[00:12:53] Kenny Thunder: He still got paid
[00:12:54] Ronnie Jams: for a minute. Now he won't
[00:12:56] Kenny Thunder: for a minute. Yeah, you
[00:12:57] Ronnie Jams: can make that same money in college and then postpone it.
[00:13:00] The Bone Man: He still got another. And
[00:13:01] Ronnie Jams: then make that team for another five years.
[00:13:03] Kenny Thunder: Jeremiah Smith gonna be bad in the NFL.
[00:13:05] Ronnie Jams: No, I'm not saying that. Jeremiah Smith is gonna be fine. I think he's a completely. He's just a completely different level from
[00:13:11] Kenny Thunder: machine.
[00:13:11] Ronnie Jams: Yeah. It's insane. Anyways, I don't know how we got here. J.J. solinger.
Good on you. Yeah,
[00:13:17] The Bone Man: nice work, Solinger.
[00:13:20] Kenny Thunder: Sully. It's a lot of heroes named Sully.
[00:13:23] The Bone Man: Yeah.
[00:13:24] Ronnie Jams: Yeah.
[00:13:24] The Bone Man: Just one.
[00:13:26] Ronnie Jams: An
[00:13:26] Kenny Thunder: airplane guy.
[00:13:27] The Bone Man: Yeah, the airplane guy.
[00:13:28] Kenny Thunder: Well, now,
[00:13:29] The Bone Man: now, J.J.
[00:13:29] Kenny Thunder: yeah,
[00:13:31] The Bone Man: a lot of heroes names.
[00:13:32] Ronnie Jams: Two, to be exact.
[00:13:34] The Bone Man: Two.
[00:13:35] Ronnie Jams: Sully from Monsters, Inc. 3.
[00:13:37] The Bone Man: Oh, there you go.
[00:13:38] Kenny Thunder: Yeah,
[00:13:38] The Bone Man: he's a hero.
[00:13:39] Ronnie Jams: Yeah. I try to tell you, he saved. What's her name?
The little girl in Monsters, Inc. What's her name?
[00:13:45] The Bone Man: I have no idea.
[00:13:46] Kenny Thunder: I gotta be honest, guys.
[00:13:46] The Bone Man: Eleanor.
[00:13:47] Ronnie Jams: No, it's not that.
[00:13:48] Kenny Thunder: I've never seen my
[00:13:49] The Bone Man: Lily.
[00:13:52] Ronnie Jams: What's happening here
[00:13:52] The Bone Man: isn't solely John Goodman. Or is he?
[00:13:54] Kenny Thunder: Yes, he is John. Greatest American actor of all time.
[00:13:57] Ronnie Jams: True, Bones. Finally getting it.
[00:14:02] Kenny Thunder: I was just reading about John Goodman, who turned down a nude scene in Righteous Gemstones because of his extreme weight loss he feels has ruined his body. I'm also, like. You're, like, 70 years old. Like, I.
[00:14:15] Ronnie Jams: That never crossed his mind. It was just the fact that.
[00:14:17] The Bone Man: Who wrote the nude scene for John Goodman?
[00:14:20] Ronnie Jams: Kenny?
[00:14:22] Kenny Thunder: Who wouldn't want to see John Goodman nude?
[00:14:24] Ronnie Jams: It's a fair point. Ladies out there creaming just thinking about it.
[00:14:27] Kenny Thunder: There Was a
[00:14:28] The Bone Man: churn and butter.
[00:14:33] Kenny Thunder: There was a chicks of cream. We're not going to go there.
[00:14:36] Ronnie Jams: Yeah. All right. Well, now let me remind everyone to call the burning sportscast.
[00:14:42] Kenny Thunder: Don't
[00:14:42] Ronnie Jams: forget to call. Leave your hot takes on hot Take outline Kenny,
[00:14:44] Kenny Thunder: that number. Because we want your hot takes.
[00:14:47] Ronnie Jams: We do. But do we have any hot takes for this week?
[00:14:49] Kenny Thunder: We've got at least one.
[00:14:51] Ronnie Jams: Maybe two.
[00:14:54] Kenny Thunder: Yeah, one. Like an extension of. Of one.
[00:14:57] Ronnie Jams: One and half.
[00:15:14] Speaker D: Hey, guys. This manakum from the Browns backers of North Jersey all by myself now that Matt and Bobby are BFF and I'm the odd man out. I'm lonely.
No, Mr. Lonely.
I have no body on my own.
Okay, guys, what is up? I'm Paul and Saga for the before. Before the Steelers game.
I heard the show. I just want to say I would make a terrible official.
I would be the worst. First of all, my depth perception. Lousy.
Second of all, I would still be biased for the Browns against the Steelers for guys who played it. Four guys who played for Ohio State against guys who played for. For Michigan. Unless they're on the Browns. I would be a terrible, terrible official.
Can't wait to hear all the rest of the hot takes. I'm sure. I'm going to call after the game. Here we go, Brownies. Here we go.
[00:16:17] Kenny Thunder: So that was the before picture.
[00:16:19] The Bone Man: Okay. Yeah. Pregame.
[00:16:20] Ronnie Jams: Okay. Yeah.
[00:16:21] The Bone Man: It sounded sad at first, but yeah, I guess it was.
[00:16:25] Kenny Thunder: The
[00:16:25] The Bone Man: game hadn't even been played yet.
[00:16:26] Kenny Thunder: Just sad because he's been left out of the circle.
[00:16:28] Ronnie Jams: Yeah, it feels bad.
Feels bad.
Let's go on that. I have a feeling Menachem probably calls back
[00:16:36] Kenny Thunder: one.
One thing I would say about Menockum is the fact that he doesn't have a good depth perception. Doesn't surprise me at all. No, the least surprising thing we've learned about Menachem.
[00:16:45] Ronnie Jams: Oh, and sings a lot better than I thought he would. You know,
[00:16:49] Kenny Thunder: that was a pretty. Yeah, that was pretty good. That was impressive.
[00:16:52] Ronnie Jams: He had a nice Falsetti in there.
[00:16:53] Kenny Thunder: Yeah, a little Falsetti.
[00:16:55] Speaker D: This is Kevin Harlan, Angry Bobby's favorite announcer, pulling the hot take hotline. Bobby was thrilled to hear that it was windless and 66 degrees out in Pittsburgh on Sunday. Unfortunately, the Browns, on the other hand, were winless with just six points.
When the Browns are victor, Happy Bob can rejoice.
But this week, Angry Bobby was landlocked, experiencing an earthquake of emotions.
Finally, remember this important lesson.
One cheek equals two feet.
[00:17:32] Ronnie Jams: That's it.
[00:17:35] The Bone Man: Interesting.
[00:17:36] Kenny Thunder: I mean, so we got Menockham and Kevin Harlan. That's. That's the hot take hotline this week.
[00:17:41] Ronnie Jams: So I guess that
[00:17:43] Kenny Thunder: was a pretty good Kevin Harlan.
[00:17:45] The Bone Man: I was gonna say that. I thought it was
[00:17:46] Ronnie Jams: actually. I thought it was him.
[00:17:48] Kenny Thunder: We're learning a lot about Menockum today. Bad depth perception. Good singer. Great Kevin Harlan impression.
[00:17:52] The Bone Man: Yeah.
[00:17:53] Ronnie Jams: Starts bad, gets better.
Yeah. Listen, you said that's all the hot takes this week.
[00:18:00] Kenny Thunder: That's all the hot takes.
[00:18:01] Ronnie Jams: So, man, you like to say that Matt from Nashville is on a pedestal, but I want to tell you, I think man's the new favorite again.
[00:18:10] Kenny Thunder: Yeah. Man's back up on top because he's the only one that consistently calls every day.
[00:18:13] Ronnie Jams: Consistent Angry
[00:18:14] Kenny Thunder: Bobby. Angry Bobby
[00:18:15] Ronnie Jams: was so angry, he couldn't call into the hot take. Hot.
[00:18:17] Kenny Thunder: Angry Bobby literally said last week that he was going to make time to call every week for from now on.
[00:18:22] Ronnie Jams: Yeah, I call it.
[00:18:23] Kenny Thunder: And. And now he's like, I'm not gonna. You know what? I'm gonna play that right now. I'm gonna play it just so we can remember. I'm gonna call in as much much as I can now. Yeah. Angry Bobby said he's gonna call every. Every week. He
[00:18:34] Ronnie Jams: didn't call,
[00:18:35] Kenny Thunder: and then he didn't call.
[00:18:36] Ronnie Jams: You son of a. Come
[00:18:37] Kenny Thunder: on, Angry Bobby.
[00:18:38] Ronnie Jams: Mrs. Angry Bobby probably puts up with this nonsense all the time. She's probably like, he tells me this, and then he doesn't follow through.
[00:18:45] Kenny Thunder: Mrs. Bobby's a saint.
[00:18:46] Ronnie Jams: She is a saints.
But. Yeah. So, Matt. Matt from Nashville.
[00:18:50] Kenny Thunder: Yeah. Where the hell is Matt from Nashville?
[00:18:51] Ronnie Jams: Off the pedestal.
You and Angry Bobby are probably off gallivanting doing whatever you guys do. That's
[00:18:57] Kenny Thunder: the problem. They're together.
[00:18:58] Ronnie Jams: Yeah. And Monum staying true to the Burning river sports cast, calling in, leaving us hot takes. And. And he even left us with a gem there at the end. One cheek equals two feet.
So.
[00:19:12] Kenny Thunder: Yeah.
[00:19:13] The Bone Man: Yeah.
[00:19:15] Kenny Thunder: Menachem's a number one.
We love monogam.
[00:19:19] Ronnie Jams: We love Monaco.
[00:19:20] The Bone Man: He didn't even talk about the game. It was just so pathetic and sad. It was. I'm not even gonna touch it.
[00:19:25] Kenny Thunder: I
[00:19:25] Ronnie Jams: mean, that was kind of our show on Sunday, right? Like, we. We went through it real. That was our shortest live show, I think actually
[00:19:30] Kenny Thunder: had a lot more to say. And Ronnie James was like, we're just not even. We're done. He's like, we're cutting it off.
[00:19:35] Ronnie Jams: I. I just was so deflated. I was. It was like 37 minutes. Like, we usually. That's usually an hour show, easy. And it was 37 minutes.
[00:19:43] Kenny Thunder: I had at least Another hour in me.
[00:19:45] Ronnie Jams: That's probably why I cut it off. I could see it in your eyes. And I was like, we can't do this. It's gonna get ugly.
[00:19:50] Kenny Thunder: We can't keep talking about this.
[00:19:51] Ronnie Jams: Yeah, but we do want your hot takes. So please call into the hot take hotline. Remember, these are hot takes. We want hot takes. We
[00:19:56] Kenny Thunder: want the hot take. 330-2278-0813302278081330227800813302278,
[00:20:05] Ronnie Jams: 081 call now. Not standing by. We'll put you on the air. And speaking of hot takes, it's time for Dug it with the Macho
[00:20:16] Kenny Thunder: Fan.
[00:20:27] Speaker E: Not the way we wanted it. No one said it would be easy until. But we're going down to the Big Easy. We're gonna take care of our business by the bayou. So watch out, new Rolling Saints, because we're coming. We're coming, and we're not gonna play so nice. We're gonna come and we're gonna take care of our business.
So you better watch it because the Browns are gonna flip it around.
Oh, yeah. Let's go, Browns. Dit.
[00:21:08] Kenny Thunder: Put my thing down, zip it and reverse it.
[00:21:11] Ronnie Jams: Macho.
[00:21:12] Kenny Thunder: Macho fan.
[00:21:14] Ronnie Jams: I want to
[00:21:15] The Bone Man: be
[00:21:16] Kenny Thunder: a macho fan.
[00:21:18] Ronnie Jams: Bone.
[00:21:19] Kenny Thunder: According to the macho fan, we're gonna. We're doing a lot of. Everybody's coming. Everybody's
[00:21:25] Ronnie Jams: coming in. We're gonna put our thing down, flip it in reverse.
[00:21:27] Kenny Thunder: Everybody's coming for you.
[00:21:28] Ronnie Jams: I' you're coming. We're all coming. It's coming, coming.
[00:21:31] Kenny Thunder: I love the. I mean, one, I love Macho Fan and the fact that he gets us pumped every week. But two, I just love the, like, sequitur, non sequitur. Like, the things that he ties together that have literally nothing to do with each other.
[00:21:42] Ronnie Jams: It's a true WWE promo. Like, it makes no sense.
Like, do you. Have you ever listened to, like,
[00:21:50] Kenny Thunder: Dusty Rhodes or
[00:21:51] Ronnie Jams: Macho man or Macho or the Rock or anybody, Any sense?
[00:21:56] Kenny Thunder: Scott Steiner.
[00:21:57] Ronnie Jams: Yeah.
[00:21:57] Kenny Thunder: You're going to get 75% of my 35.
Going to be 200%.
[00:22:04] Speaker F: Yeah. But then you take my 75% chance of winning if we used to go one on one and then add 66 and 2/3%.
I got 141 and 2/3 chance of winning
[00:22:16] Ronnie Jams: those. Those promos are nowhere near as good as Macho Man. So. Macho fans. So, yeah, one more thing. Before the Browns brief, there's
[00:22:25] Kenny Thunder: always one more thing. I feel like we need a segment.
[00:22:27] Ronnie Jams: There's actually two more. We need another
[00:22:29] Kenny Thunder: segment called in, called One more Thing.
[00:22:31] Ronnie Jams: Okay.
But we're not gonna have it right now. Right now, it's the Burning River Sportscast dog of the week.
[00:22:39] Speaker H: Doesn't matter, man. You gotta play tough people in the National Football League. You gotta be ready. And we gotta be the dogs that we are every time we step on there on Sunday and be ready to attack and don't stop until we're in that locker room.
[00:22:55] Ronnie Jams: All right? We leave it up to our listeners to determine the Burning River Sportscast dog of the week. Each week on our live show on Sunday night, we each nominate a dog of the week Candid. From there, we turn it over to all of you on our socials to vote and make the final decision. Kenny, your nominee,
[00:23:09] Kenny Thunder: Dakota Fanning.
[00:23:10] Ronnie Jams: Harold Fanning, Jr. Bone, your nominee,
[00:23:13] The Bone Man: Denzel Ward.
[00:23:15] Ronnie Jams: And mine was Dylan Sampson. After the fan vote that was conducted on our socials, this week's Burning river sports guest dog of the week is Harold Fanning, Jr.
I'm the only one that said that, right? You guys both said Fanning.
[00:23:29] Kenny Thunder: Fanning,
[00:23:30] The Bone Man: I think
[00:23:31] Kenny Thunder: Dakota Fanning, Jr.
[00:23:32] Ronnie Jams: Yeah. 10 receptions, 154 yards. Harold Fanning, he's the leading receiver for the Cleveland Browns this year.
[00:23:38] Kenny Thunder: Yeah, no joke. He's the best. He's the best weapon they have.
[00:23:41] Ronnie Jams: We talk about the. The how good the young receiving core is in our leading receiver as a tight end.
[00:23:48] Kenny Thunder: Yeah. Two years running. That's what. That's what happens. Because he's really good. And look, and it's nothing even against the. The rookie receivers. Right. They are good and they're going to be really good. I think, though, Denzel, Boston's fallen off a little bit of recent weeks, but, like, they're going to be fine.
[00:24:01] Ronnie Jams: You know this all too well. He's on your fantasy
[00:24:03] Kenny Thunder: team. Yeah, he's been trash, but, like, those guys are going to be. But the fact of the matter is, Harold Fannin has a whole other year under his belt. So, like, he's seen and played more football than those guys. By default. He's going to be better. You
[00:24:16] Ronnie Jams: know
[00:24:16] Kenny Thunder: what? And he is a really great weapon. Like, he's got good speed, he's got good hands. He's strong as I'll get out. Like, he should be a focal point of this offense. And the offense in the last couple of weeks has moved the best when it's run through Harold Fannin Jr.
[00:24:30] Ronnie Jams: And you know what the craziest part about this is for Literally like three to four weeks. We were just like, why aren't we getting him the ball?
[00:24:36] Kenny Thunder: Yeah.
[00:24:36] Ronnie Jams: And he's still the leading receiver on the team.
[00:24:38] Kenny Thunder: Didn't like to throw him the ball. And
[00:24:39] Ronnie Jams: mind you, we're in week nine, so we've only had eight games, and for about half the season, we were begging them to throw him the ball.
[00:24:44] Kenny Thunder: I mean, the other thing is this right now with the play that you're getting out of Deshaun Watson, he has been wildly inaccurate downfield passing. So what is working is short, intermediate throws. And that's right where Harold Fannon's going to play. Like, I don't know why we are not. That. That isn't. The whole offense is like, how do we scheme open? Harold Fanning Jr. You don't mean to scheme. He's open anyway.
[00:25:04] Ronnie Jams: He's open. He's always open. Like, all receivers say they're always open. This guy's literally
[00:25:09] Kenny Thunder: always open.
[00:25:10] The Bone Man: And he breaks the first two tackles every
[00:25:12] Kenny Thunder: time.
[00:25:13] Ronnie Jams: It is. That is the craziest thing, watching him. Like, you know, we. We love David Ninjoku when he was here, but legitimately, Harold Fannin is everything David Njoku is supposed to be. Like, he
[00:25:24] Kenny Thunder: gets the
[00:25:25] Ronnie Jams: brawl. I got no coral with
[00:25:27] Kenny Thunder: coral. David Joku, he was fine,
[00:25:29] Ronnie Jams: but like, Harold Fanning catches the ball and just guys bounce off there, but he's keeping running.
[00:25:32] Kenny Thunder: Harold Fannin has the potential to be a. A top probably five tight end in the league.
[00:25:38] Ronnie Jams: David Ajoku had that his entire career here. Never. David
[00:25:41] Kenny Thunder: and Joker had the potential to be a top. The top tight end in the league. Unquestionably just out of sheer athletic potential, But.
But yeah, never again.
[00:25:49] Ronnie Jams: We. We love. He got
[00:25:50] Kenny Thunder: a lot of bad quarterback play in his
[00:25:52] Ronnie Jams: time. Yeah. It's fair.
[00:25:53] Kenny Thunder: Not that Harold Fanon's had good quarterback play, but.
[00:25:55] Ronnie Jams: No, no but, yeah. So, Harold Fanning Jr. This week's Burning for Sportscast Dog of the week.
[00:26:01] Kenny Thunder: Speaking of Dakota Fanning, what's your favorite Dakot Fanning role?
[00:26:07] The Bone Man: Man on Fire.
[00:26:09] Ronnie Jams: Oh,
[00:26:09] Kenny Thunder: I know, I know, Bones. A big Dakota Fanning fan.
[00:26:14] Ronnie Jams: That's a great impression.
This is great.
Is she here?
[00:26:21] The Bone Man: I work on that voice.
[00:26:23] Ronnie Jams: Kenny. What's yours?
[00:26:24] Kenny Thunder: Bone Bone practices it all the time.
You know, quite honestly, I really love the Twilight series.
Nobody likes Twilight but me.
[00:26:35] The Bone Man: She was Twilight.
[00:26:36] Kenny Thunder: She was one of the.
What do they call them? The
[00:26:41] The Bone Man: bad vampires.
[00:26:42] Kenny Thunder: Yeah, the Illuminati vampires.
[00:26:44] The Bone Man: Okay. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Like in Italy.
[00:26:47] Kenny Thunder: I can't remember what they're called. Yeah,
[00:26:48] The Bone Man: I know you're talking about.
[00:26:50] Kenny Thunder: I'm just a sucker for that. That whole series that
[00:26:55] Ronnie Jams: all checks out. My wife's gonna listen to this. She'd be like, you love Twilight. Twilight
[00:26:58] The Bone Man: was like.
[00:26:59] Ronnie Jams: That's like a running joke for her because if I pause at the TV when she has it on, she's like, you love Twilight.
[00:27:04] The Bone Man: It was a. It was a bonding series for me and the wife back in the day. Yeah, it was one of those. That's
[00:27:09] Ronnie Jams: one
[00:27:09] The Bone Man: word. We go. We watch them in the. In the theaters and,
[00:27:12] Kenny Thunder: well, it kind of like
[00:27:13] The Bone Man: go home and get busy.
[00:27:14] Kenny Thunder: It kind of like encompassed the. Like the probably end of our high school years. Right. Like through the beginning of college. So, like, we watched that whole series when we were like, becoming adults. So I think part of that is, like, just gets burned into your brain and through adolescence.
[00:27:28] The Bone Man: Am I a werewolf? Am I a vampire? What would I be if I could be?
[00:27:32] Ronnie Jams: I'm gonna go man on fire. Well,
[00:27:34] Kenny Thunder: you're going to go with the same one as Bone.
[00:27:37] Ronnie Jams: Yeah.
[00:27:37] Kenny Thunder: Come on.
[00:27:38] Ronnie Jams: That's the best one.
[00:27:39] Kenny Thunder: That's so lazy. That's lazy. Podcasting.
[00:27:41] The Bone Man: War of the Worlds.
[00:27:43] Kenny Thunder: Yeah, War of the Worlds.
[00:27:45] Ronnie Jams: No, I'm going man on fire.
[00:27:46] Kenny Thunder: Okay. I
[00:27:46] Ronnie Jams: mean, he nailed it. You're an idiot.
[00:27:48] The Bone Man: Sign.
[00:27:48] Ronnie Jams: So
[00:27:49] Kenny Thunder: Signs.
[00:27:50] The Bone Man: She. She's Signs Girl, right?
[00:27:51] Kenny Thunder: I don't know. I
[00:27:52] The Bone Man: don't think so.
Yeah,
[00:27:54] Kenny Thunder: they're doing the thing on tv.
They're doing the thing. They're doing
[00:27:58] Ronnie Jams: this Disney tv.
[00:28:04] Kenny Thunder: Yeah, there's. There's a couple things that I will always turn on the tv.
[00:28:06] The Bone Man: Town Girls. I mean, you got Brittany Murphy and Dakota in one film.
[00:28:11] Kenny Thunder: Brittany Murphy, R.I.P. gone Too Soon.
[00:28:13] The Bone Man: Yep.
[00:28:13] Kenny Thunder: She was. She was really something.
Twilight is one of the few things that I will always turn on when it's on just the TV channels. Twilight, like if Twilight comes on or if we
[00:28:24] Ronnie Jams: were
[00:28:24] Kenny Thunder: once a Brown podcast.
[00:28:26] Ronnie Jams: Kenny Thunder has lost
[00:28:27] Kenny Thunder: all
[00:28:27] Ronnie Jams: credibility.
[00:28:28] Kenny Thunder: Hunger Games.
[00:28:29] Ronnie Jams: Hunger Games.
[00:28:29] Kenny Thunder: Hunger Games. And Twilight will always be turned on when it's on. Team
[00:28:33] Ronnie Jams: Hunger Games. Way better than Twilight.
[00:28:35] The Bone Man: All right, now we're on Hunger Games. When is it okay to let your kids read Hunger Games or read it to them?
[00:28:40] Ronnie Jams: How old are your kids?
[00:28:41] The Bone Man: 12 and 8.
[00:28:42] Kenny Thunder: I think
[00:28:43] Ronnie Jams: they're good.
[00:28:43] The Bone Man: You think so?
[00:28:44] Kenny Thunder: I think our like pseudo adopted children are like, like 10, 11ish, and I think they're reading them.
[00:28:54] The Bone Man: Okay,
[00:28:55] Kenny Thunder: so
[00:28:56] Ronnie Jams: maybe you're older one and
[00:28:58] The Bone Man: I like reading to the
[00:28:59] Kenny Thunder: my kids mature themes. We
[00:29:00] The Bone Man: did
[00:29:00] Kenny Thunder: the
[00:29:00] The Bone Man: Harry Potter and I'm like, I need a good series again to read with.
[00:29:03] Ronnie Jams: Have you Read them the Hobbit?
[00:29:05] The Bone Man: No, but I don't think they would. I don't. I don't think that's a go. Not. Not with these girls.
[00:29:10] Kenny Thunder: I think
[00:29:11] Ronnie Jams: you're
[00:29:11] The Bone Man: probably good with the older one would be pretty good. I
[00:29:13] Kenny Thunder: think we do
[00:29:14] Ronnie Jams: them together at the same time. That's right. That's where it gets tough.
[00:29:17] Kenny Thunder: I think the general rule of thumb is. Is when they're old enough to compete in the Hunger Games. Sure.
[00:29:21] The Bone Man: Usually. It's a good point.
[00:29:22] Ronnie Jams: That's true.
[00:29:23] The Bone Man: So five.
[00:29:24] Ronnie Jams: Five. Yeah.
[00:29:26] The Bone Man: Or maybe it was six. I don't know.
[00:29:27] Ronnie Jams: Yeah, that's fair.
I volunteer as tribute
[00:29:32] The Bone Man: the
[00:29:32] Kenny Thunder: moment. You can volunteer.
Right.
[00:29:36] Ronnie Jams: Anyways, we're still on the dog of the week.
Let's move this along. It's
[00:29:43] Kenny Thunder: time
[00:29:43] Ronnie Jams: for the Bone Zone.
[00:29:44] Kenny Thunder: Bone Zone.
[00:29:55] Ronnie Jams: That's right. It is time to enter the Bone Zone.
[00:29:57] Kenny Thunder: Everyone's favorite segment.
[00:29:58] Ronnie Jams: Y' all heard from me and Kenny on Sunday night after the game.
This
[00:30:02] Kenny Thunder: is
[00:30:02] Ronnie Jams: the time for Bone to give his thoughts.
[00:30:04] Kenny Thunder: Kenny, Thunder and Ronnie jam. Shut up. And Bone takes the stage.
[00:30:07] Ronnie Jams: Somehow we end up talking a lot during this segment, but go on, Bone. Do your thing.
[00:30:12] The Bone Man: Ah, well, I mean, what can I say?
The worst thing I've seen since the Jacksonville game.
[00:30:20] Kenny Thunder: I thought you were gonna say the Jackson 5.
[00:30:22] Ronnie Jams: I thought you were gonna say the
[00:30:23] The Bone Man: Jets 5 was great. That
[00:30:24] Ronnie Jams: was the worst thing I've seen since the Jacksonville game.
[00:30:25] The Bone Man: I mean, the jets game. They at least competed, you know, parts of the team. I just feel like this game. Zero. Part of the team besides Harold Fanning competed in this game.
Did I say Fanning?
[00:30:37] Kenny Thunder: I love that. It just. It just slips at it. Like.
[00:30:40] The Bone Man: I cannot say
[00:30:41] Kenny Thunder: it. It's always. You
[00:30:42] The Bone Man: cannot not say it. But
[00:30:43] Ronnie Jams: I always. I always just kind of
[00:30:46] Kenny Thunder: like we've become numb to it. But
[00:30:48] The Bone Man: I'm sure you guys already said it was hard to watch. It was. It was boring. They sucked. They got manhandled. A
[00:30:53] Ronnie Jams: live show is 37
[00:30:54] The Bone Man: minutes.
Every aspect of the game. They got beat.
Pittsburgh just destroyed them.
[00:31:00] Ronnie Jams: Yeah.
[00:31:01] The Bone Man: And
[00:31:01] Ronnie Jams: they looked uninterested pretty much the entire game until the last, what, like 30 seconds?
[00:31:05] Kenny Thunder: Yeah. They just never matched their intensity at all at any point.
[00:31:08] The Bone Man: And it's not even like I could even be like desean. No, it was. The entire team looked terrible.
[00:31:14] Ronnie Jams: Defense was bad,
[00:31:15] The Bone Man: disinterested, weak. They look like boys. The other team looked like men.
[00:31:19] Kenny Thunder: Were you disappointed in Jared Verse for talking about the Steelers being a dirty team and then getting body slammed on his head?
[00:31:25] The Bone Man: No, I feel like the. The Nast national Media or whatever, local media made such a big deal about that, but it's just. I wasn't.
[00:31:32] Ronnie Jams: I thought that was pretty funny, and I'm a Browns fan, but I was like, oh, man, he got choke slammed.
[00:31:35] Kenny Thunder: I do. I feel like it more like validates the fact that he was saying, like, that these guys take. This is what
[00:31:40] Ronnie Jams: happens.
[00:31:41] The Bone Man: Yeah. Yeah. That's kind of. I never even saw the video. Honestly, I. I don't know.
[00:31:45] Ronnie Jams: It's pretty. Well, he jumps up
[00:31:47] The Bone Man: in
[00:31:47] Ronnie Jams: the air to try and block a field goal or whatever he's doing,
[00:31:49] The Bone Man: and
[00:31:49] Ronnie Jams: the guy literally picks him up, turns him on his head and then throws him,
[00:31:52] The Bone Man: drives him into the ground.
[00:31:52] Kenny Thunder: Reverse suplex. Yeah,
[00:31:54] Ronnie Jams: it was pretty wild.
[00:31:56] Kenny Thunder: Like, tombstone pile driver.
[00:31:58] The Bone Man: I don't know. It's the NFL. People talk as it happens every week.
[00:32:01] Ronnie Jams: It's funny that.
It really is funny to me that they talk about, like, bulletin board material in the NFL. Like, these dudes are paid millions of dollars. They don't give a. What you say. Like, they might. I know it was a rivalry, and they kind of talked back and forth afterwards and, like. But really it was the media that blew it up, and they're just responding to it. Like, they probably would have never heard of it if
[00:32:20] The Bone Man: the
[00:32:20] Ronnie Jams: media didn't ask him about it.
[00:32:22] The Bone Man: Last thing I'll say, at the end of the day, we all picked them to lose. I think we all thought they were going to lose, but I thought it would have been competitive. It was not.
[00:32:30] Ronnie Jams: Yeah, we all picked them to lose. Close. And they didn't. So,
[00:32:33] Kenny Thunder: yeah, that was the most disappointing thing, was it felt like it was a game they should have been in. Like, the Steelers are. I'm not saying the Steelers are even a bad team. Like, they're pretty. They're a decent team. But it felt like it should have been competitive.
[00:32:44] Ronnie Jams: I said they were fraudulent on Sunday after the game, and I actually am going to walk that back a little bit because the more I went back and watched a little bit more of the game and I've watched. I've just kind of caught up on some more of their stuff. The rest of the, like, from other games this season. Their. Their defense is pretty solid this year, and their offense is a respectable offense, at least. I mean, it's literally what the Browns want to be. You want to have a good defense with a respectable offense and that wins games.
[00:33:10] The Bone Man: I feel like teams in the NFL have lost like this every single week this year, too, where it's just like, what. Like what happened this week? Like, how does that happen in the NFL, where one week you're like, all right, this team played this good, and then the next week it's that. That. I mean, Atlanta lost in Atlanta, Mayfield completed three or through three passes.
It was
[00:33:28] Ronnie Jams: the first time ever, I think, that somebody completed zero pass,
[00:33:31] The Bone Man: and they just got bodied the entire game by the running game, so.
[00:33:35] Ronnie Jams: And then at same team, Atlanta beat the 49ers the week before that.
[00:33:39] The Bone Man: Exactly.
[00:33:40] Ronnie Jams: It's.
[00:33:41] Kenny Thunder: It's a little bit like the college football mess we were just talking about. Right. Like, there's. There is good parity right now, and it seems like even the teams that you think are good are vulnerable at different points. So
[00:33:52] The Bone Man: game plan. Right. And have good coaching or whatever it is that week,
[00:33:55] Ronnie Jams: it definitely proves that while over the course of the season, it will play out and the good teams will be good, the bad teams will be bad. On any given Sunday, like, it's a cliche for a reason. It's any given Sunday, anything could happen. If the team puts. They're all professionals. If they put together the right game plan and execute, they can beat any team in the NFL.
[00:34:14] Kenny Thunder: Well, and even going back to the Steelers, like, I know no one likes to talk any. Say anything nice about Aaron Rodgers because he's become a caricature of himself, but, like, he's having a ratchet, and he didn't particularly do anything in the Browns game, but up until then, like, he's had a good season.
[00:34:28] Ronnie Jams: Yeah.
Yeah. So there's the bone zone.
Let's go ahead and get in the Browns brief.
[00:34:34] Kenny Thunder: Thanks, Bone.
[00:34:35] The Bone Man: Oh, yeah, no problem.
[00:34:48] Ronnie Jams: All right. Kicking off the Browns brief this week. Audrick Estimate got cut by the Browns this week.
It's okay. It's okay.
[00:34:56] Kenny Thunder: Where'd
[00:34:56] The Bone Man: he go?
[00:34:56] Ronnie Jams: He found a new home. He was immediately signed by the Saints.
[00:35:00] Kenny Thunder: Bone, what are your thoughts on this?
[00:35:02] The Bone Man: He's probably gonna run for 150.
[00:35:06] Ronnie Jams: I mean, we have trouble stopping
[00:35:08] Kenny Thunder: instantly be promoted to the starter.
[00:35:11] Ronnie Jams: Their starter's not hurt or anything, but he's gonna be the guy.
[00:35:14] The Bone Man: They cut me.
[00:35:17] Ronnie Jams: No, I think this was, like, one of, like. Like a classic case of, like, intel in the NFL. They were like, I
[00:35:23] Kenny Thunder: wonder how much of that really happens? Like, one. How much does Odric estimate really know? Because he was with the Browns for, like, two hot weeks.
[00:35:31] Ronnie Jams: That's fair.
[00:35:31] Kenny Thunder: And, like, two. Like, do they. Like, I wouldn't put it past anybody in the NFL. It's a highly competitive league, and we've seen teams literally cheat. But, like, the
[00:35:38] Ronnie Jams: Browns only had him for two weeks. I'm just saying the Saints could have him for two weeks,
[00:35:41] Kenny Thunder: too. And they're like, we
[00:35:42] Ronnie Jams: got a roster spot. We're playing the Browns.
[00:35:43] Kenny Thunder: The timing on this is suspicious. How much of that actually, I wonder, is, like, legitimate and, like, what are you actually getting out of a guy like that?
[00:35:50] Ronnie Jams: Yeah, I mean, that's all fair. I mean, how much can you learn the entire playbook in two weeks, and they make you turn the playbook in and everything before you go. Any
[00:35:58] Kenny Thunder: probably would have, I guess, something, right? Like, he probably has, like, their hot calls and stuff for, like, different things.
[00:36:04] The Bone Man: Listen for this.
[00:36:05] Kenny Thunder: And even the NFL, every little
[00:36:06] Ronnie Jams: bit helps.
[00:36:07] Kenny Thunder: And even formations that you like, you know, are going to be run plays. There's probably something you can get out of that. But
[00:36:12] The Bone Man: do you think our offense has to change lingo, you know what I mean? Just because he may know it.
[00:36:16] Kenny Thunder: I think you probably
[00:36:18] The Bone Man: take down language to that check down.
[00:36:20] Kenny Thunder: Probably have to take that precaution. Right?
[00:36:22] The Bone Man: Yeah,
[00:36:22] Kenny Thunder: I would imagine this is
[00:36:23] Ronnie Jams: one of those times.
[00:36:23] Kenny Thunder: Front offices watch. And this isn't a
[00:36:25] Ronnie Jams: teaser because we don't have him today, but I wish we had our buddy John Hughes.
[00:36:29] Kenny Thunder: Yeah, where's John Hughes when you need
[00:36:30] Ronnie Jams: him? I'm gonna have to give him a call. We'll have to ask this question again next time we have him on.
[00:36:34] Kenny Thunder: He's probably getting his own bikini wax.
[00:36:36] Ronnie Jams: Ah. Because he knows yours is coming up and he wants to match,
[00:36:40] Kenny Thunder: according to Macho Man. We're all coming up.
[00:36:42] Ronnie Jams: We're all coming.
All right, next up here, Deshaun Watson.
[00:36:47] Kenny Thunder: That guy's pretty good.
[00:36:49] Ronnie Jams: Has entered concussion protocol on Wednesday after reporting symptoms on Tuesday night.
Shador Sanders is likely to start in the event that Watson cannot go on Sunday.
Thoughts here, guys.
[00:37:11] Kenny Thunder: Look, after the Steelers game,
[00:37:13] Ronnie Jams: that was a very pregnant pause.
[00:37:15] Kenny Thunder: Things were. Were pretty bleak, and people were feeling really bad about the Browns, and it felt like perfect
[00:37:20] Ronnie Jams: opportunity to bail and lay on your couch for a while.
[00:37:23] Kenny Thunder: There wasn't a lot to talk about. And then all of a sudden, this story falls in our lap.
Couple things on this one. So, I mean, we all watched the hit. It was early in the game on desean.
[00:37:37] Ronnie Jams: I know he got cleared. He definitely had a concussion.
[00:37:40] Kenny Thunder: He got clocked. So one we know right now, if he's in the concussion protocol from the hit, that means he played entire game with a concussion. So I think the first thing is you start to call into question, like, even if he wasn't symptomatic on the sideline, you know, the guy played with a Head injury. The NFL can't be happy about this because imagine, like, worst case scenario, something happened to him, right? Like, and then it's like we put him back out there with a concussion or even after the fact, if something bad had happened to the Sean on Monday or Tuesday after the game, it's like, you guys let him play with a concussion. It's a bad look.
[00:38:15] Ronnie Jams: Not good
[00:38:16] Kenny Thunder: for the NFL.
Secondly, the timing here is immensely convenient.
One, coming out of a bad loss.
Two, and I'm not accusing the Browns of circumnavigating rules or bending things to their. To their desire, because they would never do something like stash an extra quarterback on the roster and put him on IR just to keep him because they didn't want to cut him.
[00:38:43] Ronnie Jams: No,
[00:38:44] Kenny Thunder: they would never do something like
[00:38:45] Ronnie Jams: that. Absolutely not.
[00:38:47] Kenny Thunder: But as DeSean has continued to play kind of poorly, but the Browns keep winning and we get further onto the season and you start having questions and conversations about the reality of what we're going to do with Deshaun Watson. And I think the coaching staff probably has a much better idea after playing seven, eight games, what DeSean Watson could be in this offense.
And you can't really justify just sitting Deshaun Watson, but if he can't play due to injury, you have an opportunity now to see Shador Sanders, and you might even be able to stretch that into a trial balloon of two weeks, three weeks before desean is fully cleared medically to play and at least get a window, at least get a glimpse into what Shador Sanders could do.
It just. It's just very convenient timing, it feels like. And again, not saying that's what's happening here, but it does feel awful, awfully convenient because otherwise there's no justification for sitting Deshaun Watson at this point.
[00:39:56] The Bone Man: Sure.
[00:39:57] Ronnie Jams: So scenario number two for you is, could this possibly be where. Where the, the animosity, the trials are kind of mounting here, right.
With the Steeler loss and how bad it was and everything.
What if this was Deshaun Watson saying, you know, no symptoms all weekend long, he got cleared, no symptoms Monday, no sympt, Tuesday at practice. And then all of a sudden, Tuesday is like, I could go home and
[00:40:26] Kenny Thunder: feel a little fuzzy.
[00:40:27] Ronnie Jams: I could go home and collect a paycheck for a few weeks here.
[00:40:30] The Bone Man: What do you think he thinks? Maybe I have enough tape put down this year?
[00:40:33] Ronnie Jams: I don't think he cares. He's got his paycheck through the end of the year.
[00:40:36] The Bone Man: Yeah,
[00:40:36] Ronnie Jams: well. And I'm not. I. I guess I shouldn't
[00:40:38] The Bone Man: say. Did you have to play a certain number of games this year to. Nope.
[00:40:41] Ronnie Jams: It's all guaranteed. And I'm not saying that that's actually what happened. Let me. Let me be clear there. I know I kind of just did right there. But that's not what I'm saying. I
[00:40:48] Kenny Thunder: agreed.
[00:40:49] Ronnie Jams: What I'm saying is it's just another option out there. It' there's only one or the other. Right. Either.
[00:40:56] Kenny Thunder: Can I throw a third scenario at you?
[00:40:58] Ronnie Jams: And I'm not a doctor. Maybe he did have things start after.
[00:41:04] Kenny Thunder: Let's be clear. None of us are medical professionals. Just in case anyone was wondering.
[00:41:08] Ronnie Jams: Yeah. Just
[00:41:10] Kenny Thunder: in case you were listening to the Burning river sportscast for health advice. We are not doctors.
Can I throw a third scenario at you?
[00:41:16] Ronnie Jams: Sure. See we're coming up with a bunch of them. At first you were like this is bad. But then now we got a bunch of scenarios. So. So
[00:41:21] Kenny Thunder: trade deadlines approaching.
[00:41:22] Ronnie Jams: True. Shut them
[00:41:24] Kenny Thunder: down. DeShawn has played maybe well enough to be a candidate for someone else. That's a really quarterback needy team. Or also if you can get a two or three week look at Shador Sanders, at least a two week look here before the buy. Could you shop him if he looks good?
[00:41:43] Ronnie Jams: Well trade deadlines Tuesday so you can't shop him
[00:41:46] Kenny Thunder: well if he plays this week.
[00:41:47] Ronnie Jams: Well yeah, but
[00:41:48] The Bone Man: it. So yeah, you got. That's fair. You guys get one
[00:41:50] Ronnie Jams: start to look at it.
[00:41:51] Kenny Thunder: Yeah. I mean could you shop either one of those guys?
I just think there's a lot of. There's a lot of questions around the timing here.
So I don't know ultimately like who's going to start something.
[00:42:04] Ronnie Jams: That's the biggest thing is it is very odd the timing of all of it especially the way it's come about where nothing Monday, nothing Tuesday.
That I think I should go into. Well
[00:42:14] Kenny Thunder: because it's almost a story that writes
[00:42:16] Ronnie Jams: and they've left it completely open to the fact he might play on Sunday. We don't know. Nobody knows what's going to happen.
[00:42:21] Kenny Thunder: I. I guess the fourth scenario is it could be gamesmanship. Hey, we don't you have to prepare for two quarterbacks.
[00:42:27] Ronnie Jams: Are we at that stage like we're.
[00:42:29] Kenny Thunder: Well the Saints signed dodric estimate. Maybe the Browns are playing their own game.
[00:42:32] Ronnie Jams: 40 chess, baby. We're back to being just like this Stefanski Browns 40 chess every week.
[00:42:39] Kenny Thunder: I just think it's really interesting because how else were you going to get a look at Shador Sanders this year unless desean went down
[00:42:47] The Bone Man: Which I think most people would have taken that bet.
He would get hurt at some point and we would see Shador.
[00:42:53] Ronnie Jams: Oh, we said it all off season. There's no way to show place the whole season. There's no way.
There's no way.
[00:42:58] Kenny Thunder: It's just very, very convenient.
[00:43:01] Ronnie Jams: Speaking of all this, though, did you guys see Shador Sanders?
Did you guys catch his interview when they. They were asking some questions about this? The. The one question that stuck out.
[00:43:09] Kenny Thunder: Most awkward press conference of all time,
[00:43:12] Ronnie Jams: which we'll get to a second. But the. The question. The one question that stuck out to me is they asked him, you know, when you go out there on Sundays, how do you get a rhythm as a quarterback? And he's like, you guys are asking me questions I never even thought of. Like, I. I don't know.
[00:43:25] Kenny Thunder: They asked him a bunch of really dumb questions. One of the questions was, how do you think you've helped desean as a backup quarterback this year? And he was like.
Like, I just think practically about how you would even answer that question. Right. Like, I'm a guy that's been in the NFL for a year and a half. DeSean's played in the NFL for 10 years.
[00:43:45] The Bone Man: Yeah.
[00:43:45] Kenny Thunder: Like, I can hand him a tablet.
[00:43:47] Ronnie Jams: I. I haven't helped him.
[00:43:49] Kenny Thunder: Like, I. And. And he was kind of like, I don't even know how to answer. He's. He kind of brushed it off as, like, I can't take credit for anything DeShawn's done. So I don't know what you want me to say.
Like, just some really dumb questions. I think Grossi asked him just in the middle of the press conference.
[00:44:04] Ronnie Jams: That guy's a good.
[00:44:05] Kenny Thunder: Why.
If he could talk about why he had signed an agent now and didn't have one before, and Shador, like, rightfully put him in his place and was like, what does it have to do with the game on Sunday? I
[00:44:15] Ronnie Jams: think there's been a couple of times he's put grossly in his place the last year and a half,
[00:44:18] Kenny Thunder: which is, like, fair. It's a dumb question to ask, especially on. On the heels of the news that you might be starting Sunday.
[00:44:25] Ronnie Jams: Yeah. Like, let's focus on something that happened two and a half weeks ago.
[00:44:29] Kenny Thunder: Yeah. You're not preparing to be the backup Sunday. Now you are all of a sudden now preparing to be the starter, and you want to start asking questions about what I'm doing with my career. Like, what are we doing? We have a football game to play. Play.
[00:44:40] The Bone Man: Oh, it's. That's A fair question. It's their job. They're just doing their job
[00:44:44] Kenny Thunder: on a team that's won five games this year. I
[00:44:46] The Bone Man: mean, if
[00:44:46] Ronnie Jams: you're wondering where, like, the. Not
[00:44:47] Kenny Thunder: like the season has already lost. If
[00:44:49] Ronnie Jams: you're wondering where the Grosses and the Mary Kay Cabots of the world stand, just listen to the questions that they ask these guys. They serve up softballs to Deshaun Watson all the time, and then they come back with. With dumb like this for Shador. But they
[00:45:00] Kenny Thunder: just
[00:45:01] Ronnie Jams: try and trip him up and get a sound bite out.
[00:45:03] Kenny Thunder: Well, and I think that's why he's reluctant to answer any of those questions. Why
[00:45:06] Ronnie Jams: he's so awkward.
[00:45:07] Kenny Thunder: And he kind of said, yeah. He was like, I'm just going to smile, cuz. Like, I don't know. He's like, yeah, I don't know what to tell you. Like, I can't answer. Because he knows everyone is looking for a sound bite because it's going to lead to clicks and downloads and views. And he doesn't want to be. He doesn't want. Like, to his credit, he's mature enough and has grown enough to know, like, he doesn't want to be that sound bite.
[00:45:26] Ronnie Jams: Honestly, if you go back to his days in college, too, when he would interview every once in a while, like, he's always been kind of awkward in front of the camera. Like, he's not a very good interview, to be honest with you. It gives kind of weird answers.
I think he's just kind of. His personality is a little bit silly. And I mean that just like, in general, like, he just kind of like, he's just like, yeah, whatever.
[00:45:49] Kenny Thunder: Why shouldn't he be? He's 24 years old. He's a quarterback in the NFL.
[00:45:52] Ronnie Jams: No, and I'm not.
[00:45:53] Kenny Thunder: And. And Dad's rich. Like, if nothing works out for him, like, he's never gonna go hungry.
[00:45:57] Ronnie Jams: I'm not knocking it at all. I'm just saying, like, he has a level of. Of. Of.
I don't know what I like carefree that I. I could never imagine.
Like, I can't live that life. I just. I wasn't born, raised or whatever that, like, I just. I can't. Like. And
[00:46:15] Kenny Thunder: you
[00:46:15] Ronnie Jams: can't even imagine that.
[00:46:16] Kenny Thunder: And you're not gonna get a paycheck this week for $712,000. No,
[00:46:20] Ronnie Jams: not even close. No. Maybe $712
[00:46:23] Kenny Thunder: whether you play or not.
[00:46:25] Ronnie Jams: I don't know. Yeah, so. But that's what I'm saying. Like, and. And none of this is a Knock on Shador. I'm. I'm just saying, like, I. People harp on this stuff, and it's like, who cares? Like, he hasn't said anything wrong.
[00:46:38] Kenny Thunder: Press conference, dumb questions.
Bad. Just bad. Look, by the Cleveland media,
[00:46:42] Ronnie Jams: we mentioned it a little bit here, but the trade deadline is next Tuesday, 11:10.
The Browns are at the center of a lot of speculation specifically regarding two people, number one, Jerry Judy, maybe on his way out.
The Browns are indicating that he's not. That they'd like to keep him as the number three. We've talked to about it a lot, that he's a great number three option, decent number two option, not a very good number one option. So he's. I think he's played well in his role this year. He's kind of kept his head down. He's. He's done, you know, hasn't caused any issues this year. I don't know that they're going to move on from him, especially because you're not really going to get a huge return for him at this point.
[00:47:20] Kenny Thunder: I don't see any reason to move on for. From him unless he's
[00:47:23] Ronnie Jams: only 27 people.
[00:47:24] Kenny Thunder: Unless internally he was causing disruption that we're not seeing. Seeing. But I don't. I'm not here. I don't think the Browns would have said that
[00:47:31] The Bone Man: way.
[00:47:31] Ronnie Jams: I don't think the Browns would have publicly said, we don't plan on moving on from him. If he was causing issues, they would have said nothing.
[00:47:38] Kenny Thunder: So I don't. I don't see Jerry Judy is. And honestly, look, you've got your top two options at wide receiver are both rookies, and one of them's wildly undersized. So the fact. The probability that one of those guys picks up some kind of lingering one
[00:47:53] Ronnie Jams: that's wildly undersized. Already got hurt once.
[00:47:55] Kenny Thunder: Yeah, the probability that one of those guys gets dinged up between now and the end of the year is probably pretty high. Jerry Judy is not a bad insurance policy for a week or two if one of those guys gets dinged up.
[00:48:05] Ronnie Jams: Yeah, I agree with that. I think Jerry Judy's probably staying put. But still a lot of smoke around that name, so we'll see what happens. Where
[00:48:12] Kenny Thunder: there's smoke, there's a burning river.
[00:48:15] Ronnie Jams: See, now you're getting it. We got to add that to our taglines.
And then the next one here is actually a pretty big one. Justin Herbert is apparently.
[00:48:25] Kenny Thunder: Here we go down the rabbit hole.
[00:48:26] Ronnie Jams: This started out as rumors everywhere. Like, like, just like fan rumors everywhere. It' gaining some Traction, apparently with the chargers being what, 06 now or 0 and 7 now, whatever they are, they. They may be ready to kind of blow everything up and start over.
So Justin Herbert may actually be available.
The trade speculation that's been surrounding him with the Browns is some variation of the Browns giving up one of their first round picks this neck this coming year and then another later pick either in 2027 or 2028.
So I just want to see what you guys think about Justin Herbert in general. I mean, I can start this.
College quarterbacks look like ass so far.
What
[00:49:10] Kenny Thunder: does ass look like?
[00:49:11] Ronnie Jams: Not a good ass. Like a badass. Like they look like a badass. And I know what everybody
[00:49:15] Kenny Thunder: knows. John Goodman's ass.
[00:49:17] Ronnie Jams: Yeah, like
[00:49:20] Kenny Thunder: 80
[00:49:20] Ronnie Jams: year old big guy ass. Like that's what they look like.
[00:49:25] Kenny Thunder: Not Rihanna.
[00:49:26] Ronnie Jams: No, Rihanna.
Not. Not Rihanna.
Yeah, they look like John Goodman's ass.
And then you turn to like what is available as far as quarterbacks in the NFL and basically you've got older veterans as far as if you wait till free agency, you've got Shador Sanders on our roster. Deshaun Watson is not going to be here next year given the amount of money that we're going to have to pay him to be here, apparently.
But I don't know, like, to me, Justin Herbert honestly seems if this is legitimate, and I'm not saying that it is, I don't know for sure, I don't have any sources that tell me that this is legitimate.
But if this is an option and it takes one of our first rounds next year, which is. They're both going to be. I think right now we're projected at 14 and 19 is what the latest projections have us at.
If that's where our picks are. Yeah, go ahead and throw one of those first rounders in a later pick the following year at Justin Herbert. I'm in.
[00:50:25] Kenny Thunder: What did Jeffrey Simmons just get traded for?
[00:50:28] Ronnie Jams: 2 first. Wasn't
[00:50:29] The Bone Man: it 2 first.
[00:50:30] Kenny Thunder: Was it just 2? Because I thought it might be.
[00:50:32] Ronnie Jams: I think it was a. I think it was two firsts in a late round swap.
Like, like a fifth for a seventh or something
[00:50:38] Kenny Thunder: like that. Is Justin Herbert less valuable than Jeffrey Simmons?
[00:50:43] Ronnie Jams: No.
[00:50:45] Kenny Thunder: I mean, I guess that's my question is like I. This, this
[00:50:47] The Bone Man: feels like,
[00:50:48] Kenny Thunder: this feels like pipe dream to me that you could get him just by like swapping out one of your. Some of the other
[00:50:53] Ronnie Jams: ones are saying two first rounders, but I just, to me, like, if it is two first rounders, like, that's kind of where I draw a Line, I'm probably not going with it because we have a lot of other thing, a lot of other needs where we could spend those picks. But I, I just think option wise, this is specifically where I'm coming from. Option wise. Justin Herbert's the best option of everything that I've heard, be it Shador Sanders, one of the quarterbacks in college or an older veteran in free agency next year to just have for two years.
[00:51:25] The Bone Man: I, I would do it for two first rounders.
[00:51:30] Ronnie Jams: You do it for two first rounders.
[00:51:32] The Bone Man: But I also, I'm like, remember two years ago when they were like, oh, Trevor Lawrence is on the trading block. Jacksonville might be looking to move on from him. I would have done that then too.
[00:51:42] Ronnie Jams: I like his voice there.
[00:51:43] The Bone Man: That was also just fake.
[00:51:45] Ronnie Jams: Fake news.
[00:51:46] The Bone Man: Fake news.
[00:51:46] Ronnie Jams: Yeah. And this very well made.
[00:51:48] The Bone Man: I just feel like NFL teams don't move off of quarterbacks like this who, who have proven it in the league.
[00:51:53] Ronnie Jams: There's not a lot of times
[00:51:54] The Bone Man: where they don't come with all the baggage, like DeSean Watson.
[00:51:57] Ronnie Jams: There's not a lot of team, not a lot of times where you get to 07 though.
[00:52:01] The Bone Man: Sure.
But I feel like he's already proven it in the league and he just, he doesn't have anybody.
I don't know. His top option is Thad or lad or McConkey.
[00:52:14] Ronnie Jams: Thad McConkey. He's just a fad.
[00:52:16] Kenny Thunder: Imagine if we had Thad McConkey and Harold Fanning.
[00:52:20] Ronnie Jams: Oh, man. Make it happen, Browns. Kenny, you've been oddly quiet. I gotta, I gotta list excited. I think I know where this is going, but I'm gonna let you, Let you say it.
[00:52:29] Kenny Thunder: I don't, I don't hate the idea of Justin Herbert.
[00:52:32] Ronnie Jams: I actually wasn't expecting that.
[00:52:34] Kenny Thunder: What, what worries me is one, the draft capital that you'd have to give up. And I think we've seen in recent history now the way that giving up that draft capital has hamstrung this team. And all of a sudden it's like, wow, we're starting to build something again.
And I think what you'd have to give up for him is a lot.
And I also look at like his coaching staff now and I wonder if.
Are you. Are we. Would we be putting him in a better situation? Because if he's not successful in the one that he's in, I don't know that I see a lot changing once he gets here.
You know, put him behind a poor offensive line, give him some good young receivers, but no running game. Like, let him get sacked eight times a game. Like is, is he going to throw for 5,000 yards? Is he going to win 11 games? I have a hard time believing that those things come to fruition. I think this team needs to continue to invest up front.
Not sure we've figured out the running game and what we're going to if we need to maybe add it back somewhere along the and I don't think that Justin Herbert is good enough to overcome those things on his own.
So I think you pay a tremendous price for something that maybe doesn't fix the problem.
[00:53:55] Ronnie Jams: To back up some of what you're saying, the Chargers right now have the 13th ranked defense. The Browns have the 14th ranked defense.
So like to your point, like they have pretty much just as much as the Browns have as far as help around them.
Obviously like Bone said, there's probably not as many weapons on offense.
I'm looking up the offensive. I
[00:54:19] Kenny Thunder: mean let's, let's rewind the clock to January of this year. If you would have told me we could have had Harbaugh and Mike McDaniel here to run this team, would you have, would you have signed up for that?
[00:54:29] Ronnie Jams: Yeah,
[00:54:30] Kenny Thunder: probably.
[00:54:31] Ronnie Jams: I don't know. I don't really like hardball. I mean I know Harbaugh's a
[00:54:33] Kenny Thunder: goofball, but like as a football coach he's been pretty successful at every level. Like I would think
[00:54:38] Ronnie Jams: until things start to go south and then he leaves and runs.
[00:54:41] Kenny Thunder: Well, true, I guess until he gets caught cheating.
[00:54:43] Ronnie Jams: Yeah. See
[00:54:44] Kenny Thunder: but I, but I think if you would have asked probably 10 Browns fans in January of this year, if you want Mike McDaniel and Harbaugh here to run this organization like you probably would have had nine or 10 out of every all the Browns fans
[00:54:57] Ronnie Jams: to further supplement your claims, they have a better run game than the Browns by a decent amount.
They rank 18th as far as rushing in the league. Browns are 24th.
The only thing that they're worse at is passing right now because of the lack of weapons that he has to throw to. So I don't know like I don't know, better situation or worse.
[00:55:21] Kenny Thunder: And look again, we all feel really good about our young wide receiver core. But let's bear in mind like the season is long. Denzel Boston started strong and hasn't done a lot since Casey's already been banged up. Not that either of those guys are busts or they're not going to be good. I am optimistic about both of them but you know, it's not like they're bonafide all pros.
[00:55:40] Ronnie Jams: I understand building the team and everything and we're going in the right direction here. I guess the biggest question for me and the reason why I would say I would absolutely do this in a heartbeat. I actually, as we're talking about this now and thinking about it more Bone, I'm with you. I would give up two first rounders for him right now. Because if you tell me
[00:55:55] Kenny Thunder: you're all in.
[00:55:56] Ronnie Jams: Yeah, I actually am. Because if you tell me we have Justin Herbert going down the stretch this year, I actually feel fantastic about our team. I think the running game gets better. I think.
I think the passing game gets significantly better because for the simple fact that he does have more weapons here as far as receiver and that takes pressure off the running. And right now we can't throw the ball. Like, we can't. Like. DeSean's had two games where he's thrown the ball decently. This last one was mostly in the end of the first fourth quarter. Before that, he didn't really do much.
I just think it makes the offense that much more dangerous.
Couple that with the defense being solid and it's literally what we just talked about a little bit ago with the Steelers. Steelers or we're going to be talking about, I guess.
But anyway, it's. It's exactly what the Steelers are right now, what the Browns really want to be. You have a solid defense and you have a decent, solid offense. I mean, like your, your defense is in the top 10 to 15 and then your offense can play well enough to score points. And that's a recipe for success in the.
[00:57:04] Kenny Thunder: Here's my final question mark.
I know everybody's high on Todd Monken right now because he's won five games to start the year.
[00:57:11] Ronnie Jams: If he could win five games with DeSean Watson, he could win more with Justin Herbert.
[00:57:15] Kenny Thunder: What if they don't win another game for the rest of the year? I mean, are we sold that Todd Monken is the guy that's going to lead this team for the next three to four years? Because if you're telling me we're going to give up what we're going to give up to go get that guy, we better damn well have our shit figured out so that, like, Justin Herbert is working with the same team. Because you're telling me if you go get a guy like Justin Herbert, then you see a window right now, a window to win right now.
And I'm not convinced that Todd Monken is the guy that's going to win with this team long term.
It's not to say he can't be, but I think you better pre be pretty damn sure.
[00:57:49] Ronnie Jams: That's fair.
That's fair. I'm come. I'm just coming at it from. We have Justin Herbert the rest of the season. I like. I like where this is going, going.
So Bone,
[00:57:59] The Bone Man: I don't know. I guess we got to wait and see how the team responds this week. You know, after getting boat race against the Steelers just like. Just like they did in Jacksonville, I was like years over and then
[00:58:11] Ronnie Jams: year
[00:58:11] The Bone Man: wasn't over, didn't lose. The team I think we talked about before was pretty impressive at the time.
[00:58:17] Ronnie Jams: Yeah.
[00:58:18] The Bone Man: Let's see what happens. I. Yeah,
[00:58:20] Ronnie Jams: that's fair. That's fair. That'll do it for the Browns. Brief, though. Let's go ahead and get into the division roundup.
All right. This week for the division roundup, Cincinnati escaped with a win over the Titans 43 to 36 in overtime.
[00:58:44] Kenny Thunder: It was a close one.
[00:58:45] Ronnie Jams: It was. They have no defense.
[00:58:48] Kenny Thunder: Yeah,
[00:58:48] Ronnie Jams: yeah. We were all right, though. We said Cincinnati would win.
Next up, Baltimore got humped by the Bills 36 to 2:10. We'll get to their quarterback situation and around the NFL, but they are in big trouble this season. Big, big, big trouble.
[00:59:01] Kenny Thunder: T R O U B L E.
[00:59:03] Ronnie Jams: That's right. We were all right on that one.
And then Cleveland got on by the Steelers 276 and we were all right here. We. We thought it'd be closer, but we were right on the
[00:59:13] Kenny Thunder: outcome. Succinct.
[00:59:14] Ronnie Jams: Yeah.
Nobody picked the correct score. And so for the AFC north standings are as follows. Pittsburgh is on top at six and two, Cincinnati five and. And five and is it five and two because they had a bye week. So five and two in second place. Cleveland's in third place at five and three and Baltimore
[00:59:32] Kenny Thunder: dwindling fast.
[00:59:33] Ronnie Jams: They're in last place and back down to 500 at four and four. Current king of the north standings, Bone and Kenny still tied on top at 17 and 9. We all went all in three and oh this week in case anyone didn't catch that
[00:59:47] Kenny Thunder: coming up.
[00:59:48] Ronnie Jams: And then I'm trailing at 13 and 13, but I did make it back to 500. So that feels. Feels good.
[00:59:53] Kenny Thunder: I've been there.
[00:59:54] Ronnie Jams: Yeah.
[00:59:54] Kenny Thunder: Yeah,
[00:59:55] Ronnie Jams: yeah.
Every time. Almost every time you've lost, though, you finished well under 500. So.
[01:00:01] Kenny Thunder: Yeah. Your mom.
[01:00:02] Ronnie Jams: Thank you. I got somebody with that in our comments this week.
He got him
[01:00:07] The Bone Man: good.
[01:00:08] Ronnie Jams: I don't even remember what he said, but he told me something. I said, your mom.
[01:00:11] Kenny Thunder: He was like he commented on the macho fan post. Like he was calling out macho fan for like doing a promo for the Browns game. And he was like this aged one. Well,
[01:00:21] Ronnie Jams: and I said just like your mom.
It's
[01:00:23] The Bone Man: like his shtick. He does it every week.
[01:00:25] Ronnie Jams: And he said, and he said back to me, I can see that you guys are a low level of intelligence by this comment. And I said, just like your mom.
[01:00:34] Kenny Thunder: I mean you literally commented on the one part of the show that is, is literally just fun, light hearted and has no analytical or like material basis.
[01:00:46] Ronnie Jams: Idiots. And
[01:00:47] Kenny Thunder: you were like, oh, good take. Yeah, it's just a hype video, man.
[01:00:50] Ronnie Jams: Steelers fan hands. He's
[01:00:51] Kenny Thunder: the worst.
[01:00:52] Ronnie Jams: Yeah.
Talk
[01:00:53] Kenny Thunder: about low iq.
[01:00:55] Ronnie Jams: Yeah. Let's take a quick trip around the NFL.
[01:00:57] Kenny Thunder: Room temperature.
[01:01:00] Ronnie Jams: It was a sick burn.
[01:01:04] Kenny Thunder: I'm Bernie Sanders over here.
[01:01:20] Ronnie Jams: All right. First
[01:01:22] Kenny Thunder: bad night for the Republicans.
[01:01:24] Ronnie Jams: Oh, let's not go there.
First up in around the NFL Lions. Jack Campbell was taken to the hospital after scary hit on Sunday that left him with no feeling or movement in any of his extremities.
Since then he has taken a social media to announce that he has regained feeling and movement in his lower extremities.
He said they need to wait and see if he will what level of movement and feeling he will get back in his upper extremities. He's still hoping to make a full recovery.
But Campbell, in case anyone doesn't know, all pro selection last season after becoming the first NFL player in seven years to have 150 plus tackles and at least five sacks and three forced fumbles.
So you know, this guy was very early in his career. I think he's only in his third, fourth year and just terrible, terrible injury to have happen to somebody.
[01:02:16] Kenny Thunder: Yeah, it was, it was definitely a frightening video to watch.
Anytime somebody goes limp like that.
Real concern.
Not related to Jack Campbell, but did you guys see the was a Spanish soccer player that died.
[01:02:29] Ronnie Jams: Yeah. Meat in the chest.
[01:02:31] Kenny Thunder: Yeah.
I don't know what they call that. Not really a slide tackle in soccer but like. Yeah, like.
[01:02:37] Ronnie Jams: Well, it was just a collision. It was, it was, it, it was essentially an accident. They were both going for the ball.
[01:02:41] Kenny Thunder: It was pretty aggressive though.
[01:02:42] Ronnie Jams: And, and the guy got kneed in the chest. Cardiac arrest
[01:02:46] Kenny Thunder: right there on the, on the pitch.
I mean just super rare that something like that happens. Terrible.
[01:02:52] Ronnie Jams: Yeah. But yeah. So you know, thoughts with Jack Campbell. Hopefully he makes a full recovery, football aside at this point just for recovery and he's able to, to get back to, to normal life.
[01:03:05] Kenny Thunder: I mean, I think the. The terrible part about these stories, too, is just the impact to the game as well. Like, we've had now Ryan Shazier. J. Okay. Now Jack Campbell. Like, every time something like, something serious like this happens, I think everybody kind of takes stock. Like, do I want my kids playing this game? Like, it's. It's bad for. For the game. It's. It's. It's scary.
I think it's just. Just really unfortunate when this kind of stuff happens because no one. No one. One. You know, you put your body on the line for your team, but no one thinks about it like you're gonna die or have some kind of really serious injury doing it.
[01:03:41] Ronnie Jams: And you can protect all. You know, there's ways to lessen the chance of things like concussion.
We've talked about cue collars, we've talked about the skull caps, whatever they have, but you can't really protect your neck. And just the way it compresses when you're hitting somebody if you happen to catch them right on the top of the crown of your helmet, so.
[01:04:01] Kenny Thunder: And truthfully, like, even when we were playing, like, there really weren't any. There wasn't any stories like that, at least not that that I was aware of when I was playing.
[01:04:10] Ronnie Jams: We may have been blissfully. Yeah.
[01:04:13] Kenny Thunder: Just, like, it was never something that even crossed my mind. Like, it was always just a game we played from the time we were little.
[01:04:18] Ronnie Jams: Yeah.
No, I totally agree.
But, yeah. Praying for. For a full recovery for Jack Campbell. Next up here. Cardinals have named Gardner Minshew their starter at the time of the announcement. Brissette was then relegated to QB3. And this all comes after Gardner Minshew replaced Jacoby Brissette mid game against the Cowboys and led the Cardinals to a come from behind 33 to 30 victory.
And Brissette will become important here in a minute. But what do you think about Gardner Minshew taking over for the Cardinals?
[01:04:52] Kenny Thunder: When it rains, it pours out there. I think I saw Jeremiah Love just got moved to the IR too. So, yeah, I mean, they're in a really unfortunate place. Look, we've been there as Browns fans. Like, it's
[01:05:02] Ronnie Jams: not
[01:05:02] Kenny Thunder: good, not fun when that stuff happens. I mean, I don't know what they're doing with Gardner Minshew. Like, Gardner Minshew is one of those guys that, it feels like always puts up a lot of, like, stats but never meaningful ones and doesn't win a lot and just can't really catch on anywhere. So I can't imagine that'll be long lived out there. But good for Gardner for now, I guess. You
[01:05:19] Ronnie Jams: mean he's not the future?
[01:05:20] Kenny Thunder: I don't think so. I don't think he's anyone's future.
[01:05:23] Ronnie Jams: Has he got a mean stash going still?
[01:05:25] Kenny Thunder: I haven't seen him in a minute, but he always did have a mean stash. Got copied pair.
[01:05:29] Ronnie Jams: Yeah, you look like a cop.
Next up here. The Ravens lost not one but their top two quarterbacks for the season this week. Lamar Jackson's, I guess, is speculation. They said he's going to miss significant time. When asked if he will miss the rest of the season, Jesse Mentor said, we'll see. Which typically means yes.
[01:05:51] Kenny Thunder: Yes.
[01:05:52] Ronnie Jams: On top of that, Snoop Huntley. Snoop found out that his turf toe will require surgery. That will end his season.
[01:05:59] Kenny Thunder: Dreaded turf toe
[01:06:01] Ronnie Jams: sucks, man.
And so they immediately traded
[01:06:07] Kenny Thunder: for
[01:06:08] Ronnie Jams: Jacobe Brissette. So. Which actually I think is a really good fit for the Ravens. I think that this will. Not that they're going to be good the rest of the season, but this will mitigate a lot of the big issues. Just because he plays a similar style to these two guys. Obviously not nearly as athletic as either of them, but he still plays a similar style and can run the offense the way that. Pretty much the way they were running it beforehand.
[01:06:30] Kenny Thunder: So.
Well, yeah. I mean, look, anytime you lose your top two options at quarterback, who's
[01:06:37] Ronnie Jams: the guy that they even had planned for him?
[01:06:39] Kenny Thunder: Joe Feniano,
[01:06:41] Ronnie Jams: of course.
[01:06:42] Kenny Thunder: Rookie from.
[01:06:43] Ronnie Jams: Everybody knows that guy.
[01:06:44] Kenny Thunder: Rookie from Yukon. Like they were going to be like, it's, it's, it's bad for them. Right. Like things aren't good. It's bleak. But it would have been way more bleak if Joe Fagnano is your quarterback.
[01:06:55] Ronnie Jams: Yeah. Not good. I mean, as Brown fans that actually, not that you want people to get injured, but it's like, thank God somebody else in the AFC north is going through this because that
[01:07:05] Kenny Thunder: was going to be my, my final point on this was just like, you know, you never want anybody to get hurt. But for a team to be in turmoil, believe me, no tears shed for the Baltimore Ravens. Like, I
[01:07:17] The Bone Man: love
[01:07:17] Kenny Thunder: to see them struggle.
[01:07:20] Ronnie Jams: It does give me a little bit of pause, though. We got to face him again this year and they've got Jacoby Brissette now who.
Not a bad quarterback.
[01:07:27] Kenny Thunder: It's kind of like in that Gardner Minshew territory. I guess that's kind of why they were the options for the Cardinals. But Jacoby is. Has always been very.
[01:07:36] Ronnie Jams: How many journeyman quarterbacks can we get on our team.
[01:07:38] Kenny Thunder: He's always been very steady.
His just ceiling is so limited. It's like he.
[01:07:43] Ronnie Jams: We talked about this often.
[01:07:44] Kenny Thunder: He's so
[01:07:45] Ronnie Jams: good. His ceiling is slightly above average. NFL quarterback.
[01:07:49] Kenny Thunder: Yeah. Like, he's a good backup. He's a good backup and. But that's unfortunately all he is because. Because truthfully, he's like, a really good dude. Like, he was here for a minute. I think I always appreciated the things he had to say. Seemed like a good
[01:08:01] Ronnie Jams: well for the
[01:08:02] Kenny Thunder: Browns.
[01:08:02] The Bone Man: I've always kind of felt like the year that Baker had that hurt shoulder, if they would have just sat him and played Jacoby.
[01:08:07] Kenny Thunder: Yeah.
[01:08:08] The Bone Man: Probably would have won a few more games and went to the something.
[01:08:10] Kenny Thunder: Yeah.
[01:08:11] Ronnie Jams: Yeah.
[01:08:12] Kenny Thunder: Yeah. I always liked Jacoby. I just. He's. He's. He's woefully inadequate, unfortunately.
[01:08:18] Ronnie Jams: Woefully.
[01:08:19] Kenny Thunder: As far
[01:08:19] Ronnie Jams: as adequate
[01:08:20] Kenny Thunder: as far as a starter goes.
[01:08:22] The Bone Man: Yeah.
[01:08:23] Ronnie Jams: Next up, Kirko. Change was Kirko Chains was back this week on the Raiders flight to Las Vegas. You like that? Yeah.
I don't know if you guys saw the pictures. He was literally just. They. They had him in his little, like, pod on the private jet or whatever he had and just covered in all the chains from the entire team. So we mentioned this before. It's probably his chains because he's got the best agents in the game, makes
[01:08:47] Kenny Thunder: a lot of money.
[01:08:47] Ronnie Jams: Yeah. He always makes really nice
[01:08:50] Kenny Thunder: chains.
[01:08:51] Ronnie Jams: Like, do you think that's been the. The, like, whole goal, his career? He's like, guys, I
[01:08:56] Kenny Thunder: want to buy.
[01:08:57] Ronnie Jams: I'm not a. No, I'm not a legitimate. Like, I'm not the guy. But get me as much money as you can with every team I ever play with.
[01:09:05] Kenny Thunder: He's the best survivor I've ever seen because again, like, he's never going to be a top five guy, top ten guy, but, like, he keeps places. He keeps finding places to play and. And start in the league. He's not terrible. He's a little like Jacobe Brissette and like, he. He's just good enough.
You
[01:09:21] Ronnie Jams: like? That is one of the quotes of all time. Doesn't make a
[01:09:24] Kenny Thunder: ton of mistakes, but he's also just not exciting to watch.
[01:09:27] Ronnie Jams: It's also just kind of not excited to listen to. But. But you like, that was one of the best quotes ever.
[01:09:32] Kenny Thunder: He's just. I
[01:09:33] Ronnie Jams: think it's especially because it came from him, who's mostly quiet all the time, and he's just, like, kind of awkward in. In interviews. I
[01:09:40] Kenny Thunder: might.
[01:09:40] Ronnie Jams: That's what he came back
[01:09:41] Kenny Thunder: I might be the only person that plays this game in my head, but sometimes I just wonder, like, if they weren't playing NFL football, what would they be doing? And I kind of see Kurt Cousins as like, I don't know, like a kindergarten teacher.
[01:09:51] The Bone Man: Yeah.
[01:09:53] Ronnie Jams: This is a segment in the show. Like, let's just pick a player every week. And you're like, this is what he would be doing if he was in the NFL.
[01:09:59] The Bone Man: Who's going to be the Kirk Cousins of our two quarterback draft class?
[01:10:05] Kenny Thunder: Or we.
I thought you meant we were taking two quarterbacks in this draft.
I think. I don't, I don't. I think it's apples to apples. I don't know that anybody is on Kirk's level.
[01:10:17] Ronnie Jams: No.
[01:10:17] The Bone Man: Yeah, I don't. I don't think we have Kirk.
[01:10:19] Ronnie Jams: Kirk Cousins is. He's. He's one of one.
[01:10:22] Kenny Thunder: Because in order to have a Kirk, you'd have to have an RG3. And who's
[01:10:25] The Bone Man: our
[01:10:25] Kenny Thunder: RG3?
[01:10:26] Ronnie Jams: We don't have one of those
[01:10:30] The Bone Man: trying to be the next coach of Baylor. You know, he has been out of the league for years.
[01:10:34] Ronnie Jams: Yeah,
[01:10:34] The Bone Man: Kirk's still out there just slinging it and making money wearing chains.
[01:10:38] Kenny Thunder: RG3 does have a lot of hot takes. Takes.
[01:10:40] Ronnie Jams: He has hot takes every day.
[01:10:42] Kenny Thunder: He should call the hot take outline.
[01:10:43] Ronnie Jams: He should.
Finally, in our quick trip around the NFL, the slumping Eagles are turning to Joe Milton at quarterback, moving on from Tanner McKee.
The Eagles are in really bad shape now.
[01:10:57] Kenny Thunder: The league's kind of in bad shape, man. At the quarterback position. Like, I don't know.
[01:11:00] Ronnie Jams: The Eagles are open to trading Saquon right now. Like, that's how bad it is.
[01:11:04] Kenny Thunder: I mean, you go back to that draft draft of like Josh Allen.
I think that was Lamar Jackson, like bigger Mayfield, like, it seemed like, like the next phase, next round of like good quarterbacks was coming and then like, man, it seems like they've just fallen off.
[01:11:19] Ronnie Jams: They're not good.
[01:11:20] Kenny Thunder: Like
[01:11:21] Ronnie Jams: quarterback play in general is down. We. We talked about this off air too.
You know, gone are the days where you have like the Tom Brady's, the Peyton Mannings, the Patrick Mahomes. Like, I know Patrick Mahomes still playing, but Drew Brees, all these guys throwing thousand yards every season. Like that doesn't happen anymore.
[01:11:40] Kenny Thunder: Justin Herbert did once,
[01:11:41] Ronnie Jams: it sounded like, it seems, it really did seem like that was just been going to become the norm. Like, like quarterbacks just throwing 5,000 yards every season
[01:11:49] Kenny Thunder: seemed like defenses couldn't stop them.
[01:11:51] Ronnie Jams: And now all of a Sudden,
[01:11:52] Kenny Thunder: now you can't do it at all. No one's even good.
[01:11:55] Ronnie Jams: Like, who would. Who would have thought that too high safety was the key to just shutting quarterbacks down non stop?
[01:12:00] Kenny Thunder: Like, what's interesting is the, is the, the gap between the best quarterbacks in the NFL and the worst, like, has gotten substantially scored smaller. It feels like.
[01:12:09] Ronnie Jams: Yeah.
[01:12:10] Kenny Thunder: I mean, Sam Darnold won a Super Bowl.
[01:12:12] Ronnie Jams: Well, I mean, let's just continue with this conversation. As much as we say Deshaun Watson isn't doing anything special this year and this is
[01:12:18] Kenny Thunder: five games.
[01:12:19] Ronnie Jams: Well. And this isn't an endorsement for Deshaun Watson, I still think he's not playing that well.
Statistically, he's playing better than Patrick Mahomes right now.
[01:12:26] Kenny Thunder: Yeah.
[01:12:27] Ronnie Jams: So, like I don't know. And nobody's. Nobody has any questions on how good Patrick Mahomes is.
[01:12:34] Kenny Thunder: Yeah. I mean, he's got the rings to prove it, so.
[01:12:36] Ronnie Jams: But I'm just saying, to your point, like, the gap between top and bottom is much smaller than it ever was.
[01:12:44] Kenny Thunder: So many more bottoms than there used to be.
[01:12:45] Ronnie Jams: Yeah. So many bottoms. Bones
[01:12:48] Kenny Thunder: about them.
[01:12:48] Ronnie Jams: Speaking of bottoms, Kenny, you know what it's time for?
[01:12:50] Kenny Thunder: I don't know.
[01:12:52] Ronnie Jams: It's time for another interview in our Browns backers interview series. I
[01:12:56] Kenny Thunder: don't know where this show went.
[01:13:01] Speaker F: What do you say we interview you? All right. Yes. That's a sometimes useful exercise. Please put your hand down.
Go ahead. How much money do you make a year before taxes?
I'm actually not comfortable answering that. Come on, we're doing the interview now, not you.
[01:13:22] Ronnie Jams: All right. For this Brownsbackers interview, please help me. Welcome. Hailing from Juana's Pagoda in Navarre Beach, Florida, president of the Navarre Beach Brownsbackers, Anthony. Anthony, Thank you so much for joining us today. How are you?
[01:13:38] Speaker G: I'm doing great.
Doing great.
[01:13:41] Ronnie Jams: Good, good. So tell us a little bit about the.
Lost my spot here. Tell us a little bit about the Navarre Beach Browns backers.
[01:13:49] Speaker G: Well, Navarre Beach Browns backers started in 2015 in a dive bar on Navarre Beach. It was a wanted yet and we just had our 10 year anniversary last year and basically Davar Beach Brownsbacker started before that, around 2020 when I was the. I used to go to the bar and they used to throw me in a corner. I always used to ask them if when I wanted to watch the Browns game what team the Browns were playing. So they would turn on the TV thinking because nobody even knew about the Browns down here.
And then it grew.
Then we were at a Dive bar up on the mainland and we grew and that place got closed down.
The owner had a little tax problem.
Then we,
[01:14:45] Ronnie Jams: that's a nice way to put it.
[01:14:47] Speaker G: We moved onto the beach, that's where Juana's was. And we weren't really receptive because the owner, owner is a Pittsburgh fan.
So.
So anyways, but when our members started growing, we have like 150 members right now. And we would get the, we're near an Air force base, so we get.
Air Force would come in from like all over the world and I would be getting a call or an email and they're going, hey, you guys watching the Browns game? We go, yeah. And so then people just started showing up and we had our 10 year anniversary last year and usually for the Pittsburgh games we have a, a big dog hot dog party. That's what we call it.
And we give away prizes and stadium mustard. They. Otis.
We always get a case of stadium mustard. So everybody likes that. And we have a hot dog. So stand.
And that's always a lot of fun.
We, we, we don't charge anything to join.
And then when we have parties, it's just if anybody wants to pitch in, the reason is, is that we have, because we're a military area, we have like some Vietnam vets, golf war vets and stuff like that. And they would, they would come in and they enjoyed the.
Watching the game and so. And you know, you know, some of them are, they're not, you know, they're, they, they're on fixed incomes. And so, you know, so hey, just come on in there.
Juan gives us some specials there, which is really, really nice. And like he always tells us he's the, he's a Browns fan until we, we play Pittsburgh.
So last.
[01:16:54] Ronnie Jams: Everybody has bad days.
[01:16:58] Speaker G: So last.
So last for the Pittsburgh game we had the big dog hot dog party. We had a really big turnout, A lot of fun. Gave away prizes. Yeah, of course we lost, but the party was.
It's always great. Everybody comes in a lot of local.
We got a lot of people moving into Florida, as you probably know, and we're located up in the panhandle, so it's, it's more of more southern Alabama like that.
[01:17:33] Ronnie Jams: Nice. And you guys, you, you mentioned people pitching when they can. Is there any charities that you guys are involved with or anything?
[01:17:40] Speaker G: Well, yeah, yeah. Toys for Tots.
And matter of fact, is the girl that runs the Toys for Tots has the military come there? And we get pictures with the military with the Browns, you know, giving away toys Other. Other small local charities, if somebody needs. Needs something done, we'll have a 50, 50 drawing especially.
Well, you know, we do have beach injuries, and with the locals, if we know them or if somebody asks us, we'll have a 50, 50 drawing. Basically, they're just 50, 50. We don't have a big, big thing happen.
Mardi Gras parade, that's going to be a charity setup. We're going to have a Navarre Beach Brownsbacker float for the Mardi Gras parade, which we have one on Navarre beach in Florida, which is very big. Last. Last year we had about a million people down here, so that's going to be the first year.
So looking for volunteers and anybody who wants to come on down, just look up Navarre Beach. Go on Brownsbackers worldwide. Look up Navarre Beach Brownsbackers. You're all welcome. And we have
[01:19:02] Ronnie Jams: lots of jambalaya and gumbo being served.
[01:19:04] Speaker G: Oh, yeah.
[01:19:05] Ronnie Jams: Nice.
And.
[01:19:08] Speaker G: And crawdads.
[01:19:11] Kenny Thunder: Nice,
[01:19:12] Ronnie Jams: Nice.
[01:19:13] Speaker G: A lot of beer.
[01:19:14] Kenny Thunder: So you said you're. You're panhandle. I was trying to place where Navarro. So that's near, like, Gulf Shores area, is that right?
[01:19:19] Speaker G: That's. That's. It's east of Gulf Shores by east of Mobile, east of Pensacola.
[01:19:26] Kenny Thunder: Okay, so Pensacola is probably the military area.
[01:19:30] Speaker G: Yeah. And then Fort Walton beach
[01:19:32] Kenny Thunder: in
[01:19:32] Speaker G: between Naval Air Station and Herbert Field and Eglin.
[01:19:37] Kenny Thunder: I apologize if I missed this because I was trying to place where Navarre was, but
[01:19:41] Speaker G: nobody knows Navarre.
The hurricane. The hurricane hit us.
That's what we're doing now. We're. And they're saying it hit Destin and hit Pensacola. No, it hit us.
[01:19:53] Kenny Thunder: We're
[01:19:53] Speaker G: still. We're still cleaning up.
[01:19:56] Kenny Thunder: Oh,
[01:19:56] Speaker G: that's another thing, too. Yeah, we do. We. We with you talk about charity stuff. We help. Help with the cleanup.
[01:20:05] Ronnie Jams: Nice.
[01:20:05] Kenny Thunder: Very nice. So I apologize I missed this, but how did you become a Browns fan? And did you. Were you from here and then moved there, or did you grow up down there?
[01:20:15] Speaker G: I. I grew up in. Oh, I got stories about.
Oh, the Browns. I. I've been going to the Browns since late 60s. I. I'm from Cleveland, Ohio, originally from Richmond Heights, which is a suburb. Went to school then.
Cleveland, Ohio. I lived on 100, 185th and Lakeshore Boulevard down there.
And we. We go back all the way to, you know, it wasn't. It was like, for the bleacher seats. It was 10 bucks for the bleacher seats. You know, and the. Back then, we're a lot of wheeling a light little pony, kegs and stuff like that.
And behind, down in the flats, we used to have our tailgate parties. We'd get there in the morning and the girls used to come out from Caesar Circus. Back then, that's what it was called. And, you know, party with us.
[01:21:12] Kenny Thunder: So you
[01:21:12] Speaker G: do got
[01:21:13] Kenny Thunder: stories.
[01:21:15] Speaker G: Yeah, I could tell you about going across the railroad tracks and. And then they locked us until we couldn't go. Then we used to cut the bolts. Used to hide bolt cutters there to cut. Go across.
And then, well, the cops knew us, and we used to go we. Right where the bleacher seats in. And this was before we were called the dog pound. And I think they were like 10 bucks a piece. 5 or 10 bucks. Nobody would go there.
And then we'd be sitting there and, you know, and drinking, having fun.
And then I was there when.
When Hanford Dixon called us the dog pound.
And then the dog food started flying.
And it was funny for a while, but then it. Then it got pretty crazy. And then. Then.
And then the.
Then the.
They raised the prices on the. Oh, I could tell. Then they stopped letting us bring in beer. And that
[01:22:19] Ronnie Jams: was the first thing to go. Yeah,
[01:22:20] Speaker G: yeah, yeah, yeah. And then. And then they put cameras up there. And then that's when we had toilet paper. We're nailing the cameras. You remember wrist rackets?
[01:22:30] Ronnie Jams: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I didn't have one when I was little, but I remember hearing about them.
[01:22:35] Speaker G: Well, you know, you hit the. And then we hit the cameras with the toilet paper. But anyways.
But anyways, then those. Well, you know, then. Then they got crowded, got expensive. Then we. We got season tickets. The top roll, top row, right above the. In the State Stadium. The old stadium above the dog pound and that. And that's a whole nother thing we had.
We had TVs hanging so we could see the instant replay. And we put Visqueen over the vents in the back because it used to freeze during the winter, you know, Used to freeze. So they let us leave the Visqueen there, and then we would put it over there so we wouldn't get the draft.
Then we had the beer guy. He would just sit there, watch the game. We'd buy his beers.
[01:23:27] Ronnie Jams: Nice.
[01:23:30] Speaker G: Yeah.
[01:23:30] Ronnie Jams: Guaranteed to sell out every game. That's
[01:23:32] Kenny Thunder: awesome.
[01:23:33] Speaker G: Oh, yeah. Two times.
[01:23:35] Ronnie Jams: She's like, hang on, it's half time. I gotta go get a refill.
[01:23:39] Speaker G: Yeah, exactly.
But, you know, and then one thing. When I. When I moved. I moved down there about 25 years ago. Go. But one thing I wish I did before they Tore down the stadium was. Take a picture of. They had a sign. They had a sign saying no bottles.
What was it? No bottles, no cans, no dog bones.
They had a sign up there that we couldn't bring in. I wish I got a picture of that. I wish I got the sign.
[01:24:12] Ronnie Jams: Apparently, nobody listened to that during Bottlegate, but, you know, that's a whole other story.
No, those are stories the other day. It sounds like you have a ton more. I wish we could get to all of them.
[01:24:22] Speaker G: Yeah.
[01:24:23] Ronnie Jams: But I do need to ask you. I mean, obviously the game this week is against New Orleans.
Obviously, you've already basically said that your. Your Marty Gr. Party is better than theirs. So with that being said, who's winning the game this week?
[01:24:38] Speaker G: I always go with the Browns by three.
[01:24:42] Ronnie Jams: You always go with them by three or you always go with them in this? I'm going with
[01:24:46] Speaker G: Cincinnati because we're going to win by three with a F. Field goal.
[01:24:53] Ronnie Jams: Nice.
So what's the. What's the final score then? Obviously, we're winning by three, but what's the final score?
[01:24:59] Speaker G: It's going to be low score. Oh, that. Well, that's right. Watson isn't playing. He has a concussion.
[01:25:05] Ronnie Jams: Yeah, we don't know yet. Nobody knows what's happening. He's just in concussion protocol.
[01:25:10] Speaker G: Okay. All right. Well, I. I just read that. I just read it.
[01:25:13] Ronnie Jams: He is in concussion protocol. We just don't know what. Oh, that's right.
[01:25:16] Speaker G: Concussion protocol. Concussion protocol. Right. Okay, then I'm gonna. I'm gonna Change it. I'm gon 6. 18.
I'm gonna go 21. 24. Browns 24, 21.
[01:25:32] Kenny Thunder: I like us.
[01:25:34] Ronnie Jams: Right? So is that a last second field goal or is that.
[01:25:39] Speaker G: Yep.
Cardiac kids.
[01:25:41] Ronnie Jams: Schmidt does it again.
[01:25:42] Speaker G: I could tell you about. I could tell you about those stories.
[01:25:46] Ronnie Jams: I.
[01:25:47] Kenny Thunder: I believe you could.
[01:25:50] Ronnie Jams: And we'll. We'll have to have you. If we had time, we would go over all of them. We'll have to back on because we definitely want to talk about some of these stories.
[01:25:57] Speaker G: One more. Real quick thing. The best game in the 80s with KAR, when they kicked Pittsburgh's ass. 0, 48, 0.
Browns shut them out.
[01:26:12] Ronnie Jams: That would feel good.
[01:26:13] Kenny Thunder: Those were the days.
[01:26:14] Ronnie Jams: Maybe one day. Maybe one day.
[01:26:16] Speaker G: Yeah, one day.
[01:26:17] Ronnie Jams: But listen, Anthony, hey, thank you so much for being on with us today and telling us the Navarre Beach Browns back.
And if we're ever down there during a game, we're definitely gonna stop by and grab a beer. Oh,
[01:26:29] Speaker G: yeah. Oh,
[01:26:29] Ronnie Jams: yeah. And then who knows, maybe for May you know, maybe one of these Mardi Gras will be able to get down there. It's 80
[01:26:35] Speaker G: degrees. Cleveland
[01:26:36] Ronnie Jams: Brown's float,
[01:26:38] Kenny Thunder: you say it's 80 degrees today?
[01:26:39] Speaker G: It's 83.
[01:26:41] Kenny Thunder: I might have to go down this weekend.
[01:26:42] Ronnie Jams: Yeah,
[01:26:45] Speaker G: a lot. A lot of them are going over. They're driving over to Mobile for the. Or New Orleans for the.
They're going to the game over at the stadium there in New New Orleans.
[01:26:57] Kenny Thunder: Nice.
[01:26:57] Ronnie Jams: Yep.
[01:26:58] Speaker G: Now, that's a party.
[01:27:00] Kenny Thunder: There's
[01:27:01] Ronnie Jams: no party like a Navarre beach party, though. That's exactly.
But again, Anthony, thank you so much for joining.
[01:27:07] Speaker G: You're welcome.
We're the Navarre Beach Browns backers, and we're listening to Burning Rivers Sports cast.
[01:27:22] Ronnie Jams: Good time talking to Anthony from the Navarre Beach Brownsbackers, huh,
[01:27:25] Kenny Thunder: Anthony? He
[01:27:27] Ronnie Jams: has so many stories.
[01:27:27] Kenny Thunder: All the stories.
[01:27:28] Ronnie Jams: I wish we could have listened to all the stories, but
[01:27:30] Kenny Thunder: there
[01:27:30] Ronnie Jams: was too many of them.
[01:27:32] Kenny Thunder: I think that's probably one of the best things that's come out of the Browns backers interview series is just getting to hear from so many people from all over, like, their path to where they ended up and how they became Browns fans, and just some of the stories and memories that they have. It's been a whole awesome.
[01:27:47] Ronnie Jams: Clevelanders move everywhere, man.
[01:27:49] Kenny Thunder: Ain't nobody want to stay.
[01:27:52] Ronnie Jams: I mean, some people want to stay. I
[01:27:54] Kenny Thunder: mean, look, it has. It has its perks. Lower cost of living. There's very few venomous things that can kill you.
[01:28:00] Ronnie Jams: That's true. Not a lot of natural disasters.
[01:28:03] Kenny Thunder: Natural disasters? Yeah. I mean, you get the occasional hurricane. It tears through, or the microburst
[01:28:07] Ronnie Jams: hurricane season was over,
[01:28:09] Kenny Thunder: but you don't have some of the other things that other places have. Have, so.
But in return, you get lots of flatland and cornfields, lots of cityscape. Like, just gray. Just unexciting things.
[01:28:25] Ronnie Jams: Fair. Okay.
[01:28:26] Kenny Thunder: Lots of gray skies.
[01:28:27] Ronnie Jams: Gray skies. We're actually, like, number two in the nation as far as cloudy days.
[01:28:33] Kenny Thunder: I think that's why so many millennials paint their houses gray,
[01:28:36] Ronnie Jams: because all they saw was gray.
[01:28:38] Kenny Thunder: The only palette that we were familiar with.
[01:28:39] Ronnie Jams: Look at that sky. Gray
[01:28:41] The Bone Man: again. Everything. Is the
[01:28:43] Kenny Thunder: inside of my house that color?
[01:28:44] Ronnie Jams: Yeah.
[01:28:45] Kenny Thunder: My house is gray.
[01:28:45] Ronnie Jams: Your house is real gray. I don't like it.
[01:28:47] Kenny Thunder: Yeah,
[01:28:48] Ronnie Jams: I don't like your house.
[01:28:48] Kenny Thunder: We painted it that way intentionally.
[01:28:51] Ronnie Jams: Idiots.
[01:28:51] Kenny Thunder: Because of the gray.
[01:28:52] Ronnie Jams: Because the gray.
Yeah.
[01:28:55] The Bone Man: Mr. Gray.
[01:28:56] Kenny Thunder: Every new build looks like that inside.
[01:28:58] Ronnie Jams: It does. It's the worst McDonald's.
[01:29:00] Kenny Thunder: What's. What's a
[01:29:01] Ronnie Jams: better. What's a
[01:29:02] Kenny Thunder: better color? Like what. What's the. What's the modern color? Like, what's the modern millennial gray? Because I. Because I feel like the gray is starting to fall out of favor, but because like, that was from probably. Probably 2005 to 2020, like, every new build was gray inside.
[01:29:17] Ronnie Jams: I just think that people are starting to really consider color palettes more. So you get a lot more of, like, the warmer tone. Like, like, we're going back to, like, some of the warmer tone beiges and, like, gray. But, like,
[01:29:31] Kenny Thunder: some of that stuff aged so poorly. Like, I
[01:29:33] Ronnie Jams: mean, I agree. I don't think there's anything that's, like, foolproof. The only thing. The only thing that stands the test of time typically is, like, white and, like, pure oak.
[01:29:40] Kenny Thunder: My kitchen growing up,
[01:29:41] Ronnie Jams: pretty much, it
[01:29:42] Kenny Thunder: was yellow and red. It was like a damn McDonald's inside.
[01:29:45] Ronnie Jams: Hell, yeah.
[01:29:47] Kenny Thunder: And, like, the house, like, the house that we moved into, like, a lot, some of the walls were, like, pink.
[01:29:50] Ronnie Jams: Yeah.
[01:29:51] The Bone Man: And my parents bedroom had a lot of yellow and red.
[01:29:54] Ronnie Jams: Our entire house that we moved into is covered in wallpaper.
Like, flowery, weird wallpaper.
[01:29:59] Kenny Thunder: I'm pretty sure that's where Tuna got the idea to paint her kitchen
[01:30:02] Ronnie Jams: from you guys,
[01:30:03] Kenny Thunder: from your parents
[01:30:04] Ronnie Jams: bedroom.
[01:30:05] Kenny Thunder: I don't know why she was in your parents bedroom a lot, but
[01:30:08] Ronnie Jams: you guys had some stuff.
[01:30:09] The Bone Man: Big open doors.
[01:30:10] Ronnie Jams: Yeah.
But anyways, good time. What are
[01:30:13] Kenny Thunder: we talking about again? Good
[01:30:14] Ronnie Jams: time. Talking to Anthony. Anthony.
[01:30:16] Kenny Thunder: Anthony was the real one.
[01:30:18] Ronnie Jams: We talked about a little bit with Anthony. But I think it's time to dive into this week's game with the Week 9 preview.
All right, this week we've got the New Orleans Saints in with the preview. We all know what happens. First we get another Kenny's.
[01:30:41] Kenny Thunder: Cliff's notes.
[01:30:45] Ronnie Jams: Go ahead, go ahead. Say the thing.
[01:30:49] Kenny Thunder: Is it Cliff notes or Cliff's notes?
Is it apostrophe guess or is it cliffs notes? Just cliffs. Like, plural. Lots of cliffs.
Cliffs. Got notes.
Notes on a cliff.
[01:31:03] The Bone Man: Cliff. One note.
[01:31:04] Kenny Thunder: Is cliff a person or is cliff a mount?
[01:31:07] Ronnie Jams: There's a mountain on the thing,
[01:31:09] Kenny Thunder: right?
[01:31:10] Ronnie Jams: See?
[01:31:10] Kenny Thunder: So is it cliffs?
What is the. I
[01:31:14] Ronnie Jams: mean, there's apostrophe s right there. What is the
[01:31:16] Kenny Thunder: etymology here? Is it supposed to be like notes hanging from a cliff, or is it a guy named Cliff?
[01:31:21] Ronnie Jams: This is the most digression we've ever done on a show.
[01:31:23] Kenny Thunder: We haven't heard from Cliff in a while. We should check in on him.
[01:31:25] Ronnie Jams: Yeah, we should.
[01:31:26] Kenny Thunder: Yeah,
[01:31:27] Ronnie Jams: we should. Cliff, I'm giving you a call.
[01:31:28] Kenny Thunder: Yeah. Cliff's notes. Here we go. Jenny's club Notes from the Caesars Kaiser Superdome In Nola the 5 and 3 Browns take on
[01:31:37] Ronnie Jams: did he really live here?
[01:31:38] Kenny Thunder: Is this really his his palace?
The 5 and 3 Browns take on the 2 and 5 Saints with the Browns thoroughly outplayed a week ago in Pittsburgh and the Saints coming off a bye, Ooh, it looks like I was it was given a peace sign, like an emoji. It just placed itself in my notes because I wrote by like peace out. That's funny. One thing is for certain, someone will play quarterback for the Browns. We just don't know who.
Head coach Kellen Moore, who once got cut for that guy that ran out of the back of the end zone. It's clear he was a quarterback because the Saints entire offense is throwing football.
Yeah,
[01:32:19] Ronnie Jams: 2014
[01:32:20] Kenny Thunder: Lions I think he got cut.
The Saints entire offense is throwing the football and they have struggled to get anything going on the ground. Doug Nussmeier is the offensive coordinator and Brandon Staley Perry, Ohio native, former coach at John Carroll, leads a struggling defensive unit that has been victimized by the run all season long, which is an ideal matchup for them actually, because we can't run, won't run.
Quarterback Tyler Shuck is becoming the focal point of the Saints offense. 17 according to Google it is
[01:32:54] Ronnie Jams: all right, well, I've heard a lot of different things, that's why I was asking. But I, I, I trust you.
[01:32:58] Kenny Thunder: Regardless of how you say it, he's becoming the focal point of the Saints offense. 1700 suck.
It's true, that's true. Also rhymes with duck and cluck.
[01:33:11] Ronnie Jams: Keep going going.
[01:33:12] Kenny Thunder: Buck
[01:33:12] Ronnie Jams: Kenny's Cliff notes where we get
[01:33:13] Kenny Thunder: Duck 1700 passing yards, 13 touchdowns, six interceptions on the year. Once a Titan, a saint, but titan like titan of industry Alvin Kamara still dangerous as both a runner and receiver, particularly when the Saints get him into open space. Kendra Miller is another option in the backfield, although his production has been quite limited. New Orleans has struggled to establish its ground game. The Saints are averaging just 86 rushing yards per game.
Ohio State may be bad now, but we have no quarterbacks. But our wide receivers aren't. Chris Olave is unquestionably the headliner with 639 yards and two touchdowns on the year and Devon Bailey is reliable. I guess we may have a Cedric Tillman sighting this week. A guy who didn't catch many balls in Cleveland hasn't caught any in New Orleans. But there's always but
[01:34:04] Ronnie Jams: we may have a
[01:34:05] Kenny Thunder: first. Yeah, this is quietly one of the better tight end rooms in football between Juwan Johnson and Noah Fant. Fant Font Fant I can't talk Johnson is a mismatch against linebackers and safeties and Fant gives New Orleans another athletic out option when they don't throw the ball to Chris Olave.
Despite the established pieces up front, the O line performance has been middling. At
[01:34:25] Ronnie Jams: least they don't have taste. Some Hill still,
[01:34:27] Kenny Thunder: that guy really, he
[01:34:28] Ronnie Jams: killed the Browns every time he ever played them.
[01:34:30] Kenny Thunder: He really banged us. The offensive line performance has been middling this year, better in pass protection than in run blocking and have held PFF grades between 8 and 22 throughout the year. This defensive front is probably the most recognizable portion of the Saints defense. Chase Chase Young is explosive and athletic and Cam Jordan the experienced veteran Pete Warner and Kaden Ellis headline the linebacker group. Ellis is a particularly valuable weapon for his versatility and can contribute as a pass rusher. Still the best name in football. Kool Aid McKinstry is an intriguing talent while Julian Blackman provides experience at safety. You know what they say about Blackman?
Don't go back man.
Justin Reed is is pretty good. Although he did make the injury report early in the week.
Former Brown Martin Emerson Jr. May also make for an interesting reunion this week.
[01:35:26] Ronnie Jams: The Browns.
[01:35:27] Kenny Thunder: That's why they're so bad. Kicker Daniel Carlson is an established veteran with a strong leg. Ryan so wrong. He's right is the punter. He's a big boy. What would you do if you were 6 foot 3, 250 pounds? You might there be enough cookies?
Kick a ball 5 times on a Sunday, obviously. Box Bottom line the Saints have struggled defensively and with running the ball and the Browns have a secondary capable of making life difficult for Shuck. This game may hinge on the run game on both sides. Can the Browns make the Saints one dimensional? Pollard and Warren have heard us in back to back weeks. Letting Camara get loose is a surefire way to give up the fort. Cleveland surrendered eight sacks against Pittsburgh and regardless of who plays quarterback this week, that simply cannot happen again.
That's all I got. Go Browns.
[01:36:13] Ronnie Jams: All right. Well, with every Kenny's Cliff Notes comes another edition of
[01:36:17] Kenny Thunder: Ronnie Jams Match.
[01:36:27] Ronnie Jams: All right, I got two matchups that matter. Two?
That's all you get? That's
[01:36:32] Kenny Thunder: all we got.
[01:36:33] Ronnie Jams: Number one, Mason Graham versus is Eric McCoy. McCoy is an elite center.
Barring the injuries he's had the last couple years, he's been an elite center throughout his entire career. Mason Graham is a rising star.
Saints can't run the ball Browns can't stop the run, so we're going to need to do that in order to win this week though. So I just like to see who wins this matchup. That's
[01:36:55] Kenny Thunder: what I said.
[01:36:57] Ronnie Jams: You know, it's. It is interesting that there's a really good player on the interior defensive line for the Browns and a really good player on the interior offensive line for the spring Saints.
Yet that's like where we struggle. But anyways, I digress again.
Next up, Denzel Ward versus Chris Alave.
Another Ohio State matchup here. Want to see more man going forward? I don't know that we will. We've played a ton of zone this year and honestly it's. It like to me especially when we get into clutch situations where we need to shut people down, it seems like we don't because we let teams find the soft spot in the zone instead of making Manning him up and letting Denzel Ward do what he's done his entire career.
[01:37:36] Kenny Thunder: Why is there so many sexual euphemisms in football?
[01:37:39] Ronnie Jams: I don't know.
Getting
[01:37:41] Kenny Thunder: that soft zone. Just man him up.
[01:37:43] Ronnie Jams: Yeah, but. Yeah, so we know the warden can shut guys down. Let's just. Let's let him do it.
But you know, I'm not defense coordinator, so I don't know if we will
[01:37:54] Kenny Thunder: also not a doctor.
[01:37:55] Ronnie Jams: Yeah. No, not.
In summary, the Saints have a 2 and 5 record coming off a bye week and before that a loss to the Steelers. Steelers so far this season on defense, they are number 28 overall. 320 or 372.7 yards per game. Given up their past defense, number 23 at 233 point yards per game. Run defense number 29, 139.4 yards per game.
On offense, they're the number 23 ranked offense in the NFL with 315.7 yards per game. 28 in the running game, 86 yards per game. That's even worse than the Browns. It's
[01:38:32] Kenny Thunder: not very
[01:38:32] Ronnie Jams: good.
And then the passing game, number 14, the NFL at 229.7. The Browns have a 5 and 5 and 3 record coming off a loss to the Steelers. So both teams obviously the buy for the really both teams coming off a loss to the Steelers so far this season, the Browns Overall number 14 in the NFL on defense, 323.5 yards per game. Given up their past defense, number six, 196.6 yards per game. And run defense is number 24 at 126.9 yards per game. Offense, we are number 20, 24 in the NFL. We finally made it over 300 yards per game. 301.9 yards per game.
[01:39:12] Kenny Thunder: Look at us go juggernaut.
[01:39:15] Ronnie Jams: Our running game ranks 24 at 97.6 yards per game. And our passing game is number 22 at 204.3 yards per game. And in every game there's that one thing that if executed properly, unlocks the path to victory. So let's bring in the big Bone man. We like to call that thing Bone man. Skeleton key to victory.
[01:39:39] The Bone Man: Ah, well, I'm going to keep it simple Once again,
[01:39:42] Ronnie Jams: if there's anything we know about Bone, he likes to keep it simple.
[01:39:46] The Bone Man: All right, so
[01:39:48] Ronnie Jams: he likes to kiss.
[01:39:49] The Bone Man: As you guys mentioned, their run game is 28th in the NFL and we seem to give up 200 yard rushers weekly.
I would. I would like to see us not let them get over 100 yards rushing this game. I think that would be a step in the right direction and maybe we don't miss so many tackles
[01:40:06] Ronnie Jams: if we do that. You guarantee a win?
[01:40:08] The Bone Man: I'm guaranteeing it. It's the key to victory.
[01:40:11] Kenny Thunder: You heard it here first.
[01:40:12] Ronnie Jams: The key to victory.
[01:40:12] Kenny Thunder: It's the key to victory.
[01:40:14] Ronnie Jams: Hear that guys?
Nice. Short and simple. Keep it simple, stupid.
[01:40:19] Kenny Thunder: Kiss.
[01:40:20] Ronnie Jams: Kiss. Bone likes to kiss.
[01:40:22] Kenny Thunder: When in doubt, kiss.
[01:40:23] Ronnie Jams: Yeah, Kenny, what's the betting info on this one?
Didn't I have it this week? You son of a.
[01:40:29] Kenny Thunder: No, I have it,
[01:40:30] The Bone Man: Adam.
[01:40:30] Kenny Thunder: I just was ready for my player to watch line is actually eights minus three over under 40. Three and a half.
[01:40:37] Ronnie Jams: 43 and a half. Now it's time for the player to watch Bone, who you got?
[01:40:41] The Bone Man: I'm gonna go Carson swinger.
I think our D line will step it up this week. And especially here is going to have another 15 game test tackle, 15 tackle game.
[01:40:53] Ronnie Jams: 15 game tackle,
[01:40:54] Kenny Thunder: 15 games and one tackle.
[01:40:56] Ronnie Jams: Dang.
[01:40:58] Kenny Thunder: Didn't think we're getting there.
[01:41:00] Ronnie Jams: Kenny, who you got?
[01:41:02] Kenny Thunder: I'm going to add an S to this. Like Cliff's notes.
No apostrophe players to watch. I'm going the offensive line.
Self inflicted wounds and penalties. Eight sacks last week.
[01:41:14] Ronnie Jams: That's a lot of sacks.
[01:41:15] Kenny Thunder: Running game, doa.
Everything starts up front. They got to start creating holes and they've got to protect
[01:41:21] Ronnie Jams: holes.
[01:41:21] Kenny Thunder: Whoever. Whoever's playing quarterback.
Especially if it's Deshaun. Cause he's not good and he needs all the help he can get. So offensive line.
[01:41:28] Ronnie Jams: Yep.
I'm gonna go with.
Being diagnosed with a concussion on Wednesday is pretty late in the week to start a game. So I'm going to assume that he's starting here and I'm going to go with Shador Sanders just for the simple fact that I, I think there's a large contingent of Browns fans and this isn't even, this really isn't even the, the, the shit Shador fans themselves. This is just Browns fans in general that want to see Shador for the curiosity fact.
There's two things. Curiosity and the simple fact that it's what we've been talking about all season. It's really hard to root for desean Watson given who he is.
You get mixed feelings every time the Browns win games, especially on top of the personal stuff, knowing that he's not going to be a part of the future. So I've got Shador Sanders. If he does get the opportunity to start, I hope that he goes out there, improves that we are just as he is, just as good behind center as Deshaun Watson is and we can kind of hopefully move on from DeSean Watson and play Shador Sanders the rest of the season if that's the case. So
[01:42:37] Kenny Thunder: that's a low bar.
[01:42:38] Ronnie Jams: I know, I know, I know. So
[01:42:42] Kenny Thunder: he'd be just as good as Sean Watts
[01:42:45] Ronnie Jams: who ranks number 28 in like EPA. So.
Yeah. But anyways, with that, time for King of the North.
In case anyone doesn't know by now, this is our year long AFC north pick' em competition. At the end of the season, whoever comes in last place gets punished.
[01:43:06] Kenny Thunder: Punished.
[01:43:07] Ronnie Jams: In the preseason three years ago, Kenny had a gross of eggs thrown at him by fans in the meeting lot before a game. In the preseason two years ago, Kenny has hair and beard, shaved clothes clean off. Last season, Kenny donned the pads for the first time in almost 20 years and got hit three times by our guy, big John Hughes. Still to come this season for losing last year, Kenny will be getting a Brazilian wax.
[01:43:24] Kenny Thunder: Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
[01:43:27] Ronnie Jams: The bye week is coming up quick. We need to really book that.
[01:43:31] Kenny Thunder: You know anybody that waxes.
[01:43:33] Ronnie Jams: Waxes buttholes?
[01:43:36] Kenny Thunder: Well, who does that? An esthetician. What does that. What does that mean?
[01:43:39] Ronnie Jams: I don't know.
[01:43:40] Kenny Thunder: Waxer.
[01:43:40] Ronnie Jams: We're way behind on planning this thing. But you're going to get waxed.
[01:43:44] Kenny Thunder: It's the worst thing we do is playing these pun
[01:43:46] Ronnie Jams: and the loser of this season's this season. The punishment is to be decided still because we keep kicking this can down the road.
[01:43:53] Kenny Thunder: I just can't wait to stop talking about waxing buttholes.
[01:43:55] Ronnie Jams: Yeah, but stay tuned. It's sure to be entertaining and it sure to happen to Kenny. Let's get into it. First things first. I remind everyone that I am the reigning defending king of the north. Also Kenny or clown. Let's remind everyone of our current race records after week eight.
[01:44:09] Kenny Thunder: Yeah, let's remind everybody that you're in last place.
[01:44:12] Ronnie Jams: Reigning defending king of the north,
[01:44:14] Kenny Thunder: current loser.
[01:44:16] Ronnie Jams: You guys have a 17 and nine record and I have a 13 and 13.
[01:44:20] Kenny Thunder: Look what I've done is loser or king of the North. Every year is unprecedented
[01:44:25] The Bone Man: talent.
[01:44:26] Ronnie Jams: It is a talent. You're going to find a way to lose this year too.
Let's get into this week's games.
Ravens host the Jaguars.
I'm going to start on this one.
I'm going to go Jaguars.
The Ravens are getting Jacoby Brissette and I think that there will be an improvement on offense. The problem is they're getting them halfway through this week. So I don't think that improvement comes this week. I think they're going to struggle again. I like the Jaguars. They're playing well this season.
Bone who you got.
[01:44:55] The Bone Man: I'm also going with the Jaguars. Their, their offense is pretty talented and Baltimore defense is not so good this year.
[01:45:03] Ronnie Jams: Kenny,
[01:45:03] Kenny Thunder: the Jaguars might be one of the only teams that's been really like consistently good all year and the. The Ravens are a disaster. I think this is a Thursday, this is this Thursday night game. Right. So even the fact that Baltimore signed Jacoby Brissette, like he's going to be literally there for 24 hours. So I don't even know if he'll be able to have any grasp of the offense in order to play. So I think Joe Fagnano is probably going to make his first
[01:45:29] Ronnie Jams: start. It is the Thursday night night game.
If
[01:45:33] Kenny Thunder: Jacobi Brissette plays in this game, like I'll be shocked.
I don't know what. I'm actually looking at this right
[01:45:38] Ronnie Jams: now and it says they're finalizing a trade for Jacobe Brissette. So I.
[01:45:41] Kenny Thunder: He may not even be in Baltimore. Yeah. So chances are undrafted rookie.
[01:45:45] Ronnie Jams: The deal is expected to be completed this weekend. Okay.
[01:45:48] Kenny Thunder: So chances are or so almost assuredly then undrafted rookie Joe Fano is going to make his first career start. Jacksonville
[01:45:55] Ronnie Jams: assuredly not.
[01:45:56] Kenny Thunder: Yeah, Jacksonville's been good.
This is I think a pretty easy one that the Baltimore is going to lose. So Jacksonville
[01:46:05] Ronnie Jams: all that to say Jacksonville is going
[01:46:07] Kenny Thunder: to win. They're going to win.
[01:46:09] Ronnie Jams: Next up we got Cincinnati heading on down to Hot Lana to take on the Fighting Stefanskis.
[01:46:17] The Bone Man: It looks like, this game's in Spain.
[01:46:20] Kenny Thunder: Madrid.
[01:46:21] Ronnie Jams: I guess they're not heading down. Yeah,
[01:46:22] The Bone Man: but they're
[01:46:22] Ronnie Jams: going to Madrid to take
[01:46:23] The Bone Man: on the fighting. Yeah, the changes a little bit.
I feel like Stefanski has had success against Cincinnati in his career, but it's like, man, yeah, they go from beaten the Atlanta, beat what's their face, San Francisco, and then lost to Tampa Bay, who didn't throw a pass.
I. I guess I got to pick some Cincinnati.
Their offense is really good. So, yeah, Cincinnati. Sorry for the long winded answer.
[01:46:57] Ronnie Jams: That's okay, Kenny.
[01:46:59] Kenny Thunder: Bengals are 5 and 2. I think they've won three in a row. They've ripped off.
Joe Burrow's been playing really good football, and they're in Spain. So instead of everyone saying that Stefanski sucks in English, they can hear it in Spanish. This week.
I'll go Cincinnati.
[01:47:20] Ronnie Jams: So you guys both have the Bengals.
[01:47:21] Kenny Thunder: Yo soy sucko. Stefanski.
[01:47:27] The Bone Man: I almost. I almost picked Atlanta. Don't
[01:47:29] Kenny Thunder: think about it too much. I
[01:47:31] The Bone Man: almost picked Atlanta when I thought I was in Atlanta, but the. The Spain changed it for me.
[01:47:36] Ronnie Jams: Oh, man.
Bengals defense isn't good. Bajan Robinson's really good.
[01:47:43] Kenny Thunder: True international setting ads unpredictability.
[01:47:49] Ronnie Jams: It does. It does.
[01:47:54] Kenny Thunder: Bengals almost lost to the Titans.
[01:47:56] The Bone Man: It's a good point.
[01:47:57] Ronnie Jams: Man, I'm really stalling here.
Whatever. I'll do it.
I'm gonna go with Atlanta in this one. I think Bajan Robinson Johnson has a big day.
The Bengals have won several in a row, too. So it's kind of like it's. It's what we've been talking about. It's. Any given Sunday, you can't win them all. All those things. I'm going Atlanta in this one.
[01:48:22] Kenny Thunder: Buenos Diaz.
[01:48:24] Ronnie Jams: Yo soy mucho.
[01:48:29] Kenny Thunder: Yeah,
[01:48:36] Ronnie Jams: I'll go Falcons in this one.
[01:48:37] Kenny Thunder: 4. Four years of high school Spanish right there. In the United States public education system,
[01:48:42] Ronnie Jams: it just takes me a while. I can't process fast.
Anyways, Browns head down to New Orleans. Head on down to New Orleans to take on the Saints. Kenny, who you got?
[01:48:51] Kenny Thunder: The devil went down to Georgia looking for a soul to steal.
I should have thought about this.
Gosh, man, I'd almost like to go, like, if desean plays, I think the Saints win. If Shador plays, I think the Saints win.
No.
To hell with it. Let's go Browns in this one. Maybe they get things back on track. The Saints are just bad enough that the Browns defense might be able to keep them in this thing.
I'll go Browns 23 17.
[01:49:23] Ronnie Jams: Bone, who you got?
[01:49:25] The Bone Man: Yeah, I'm kind of on the same line of thought with our defense back or bouncing back this week after getting manhandled.
I think maybe they got a little chip on their shoulder and they won't want to show the NFL that they're. They're still good units. So I'll go Browns.
Let's go. Brown 18. New Orleans 15.
[01:49:45] Ronnie Jams: Ooh, nice.
I really disappointed that you guys both picked the Browns. Cause I thought for sure you got at least one of you guys was going to pick the Saints and I could come back some more. I
[01:49:54] Kenny Thunder: really think the Saints are going to win, actually. I almost want to revise my pick, but
[01:49:58] The Bone Man: do it.
[01:49:58] Kenny Thunder: I think it's the homer in me.
[01:50:00] Ronnie Jams: Yeah, I'm going Browns as well. I think they bounce back. I think if Shador Sanders does play, which I just said a little bit ago, I assume he is going to play.
I think the offense actually moves better than it does with desean Watson. Agreed.
Simp for the simple reason that you can run under center a lot more and not have to sit back in a shotgun, which, sure, you can read the field a little bit better, but the defense can also read you a little bit better.
So, yeah, I, I think the Browns are going to win this and I think the Saints are giving up 27 points a game. So I think we score a little bit more than we usually do. I don't think we get into the 30s, but I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Browns 27, Saints 20.
No, I'll go Saints 17.
[01:50:48] Kenny Thunder: I do think. What I do think could be interesting is I think the offense to your point, may look a lot better if Shador is under center. I think the question is like, does Shador make the big mistake during that game
[01:50:59] Ronnie Jams: there?
Fair.
But yeah, I got Browns 2717. So with that, that'll do it for King of the North. Let me remind everybody. Call the breakers.
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[01:51:52] Kenny Thunder: Foxford.
[01:52:05] Ronnie Jams: What do you got for us, Ken?
[01:52:06] Kenny Thunder: I have a fact. We're going to go back to the year 1518.
[01:52:10] Ronnie Jams: That's far.
[01:52:10] Kenny Thunder: And we're going to talk about the dancing plague of 1518.
[01:52:15] Ronnie Jams: The dancing plague
[01:52:17] Kenny Thunder: in which hundreds of people in Strasbourg reportedly danced uncontrollably for days. Some accounts claim people dance themselves to death. Authorities actually hired musicians to encourage the dancing at one point. How did this all begin? In July of 1518, a woman named Frau Trofea.
[01:52:32] Ronnie Jams: Like Frau Far Bissna.
[01:52:33] Kenny Thunder: Like Sound of Music.
[01:52:35] Ronnie Jams: No,
[01:52:35] Kenny Thunder: no,
[01:52:36] Ronnie Jams: no.
Is from Austin Powers
[01:52:42] Kenny Thunder: secret Losing bone. Bones starting to fall.
Anyway,
[01:52:47] Ronnie Jams: he's growling at us.
[01:52:48] Kenny Thunder: This frau stepped out onto the street and straw.
[01:52:51] Ronnie Jams: It was a tele.
[01:52:54] Kenny Thunder: And began dancing uncontrollably. She danced for days without music or rest. I mean, that's the weirdest part, that she just started without any. Just. She starts dancing until she collapsed.
[01:53:04] Ronnie Jams: I just gotta dance.
[01:53:05] Kenny Thunder: Within a week, 34 people had joined. And by August, the crowd of compulsive dancers grew to roughly 400 people.
[01:53:12] Ronnie Jams: Oh, my God.
[01:53:13] Kenny Thunder: Dancers suffered from bloody feet. Bloody fingers. Bloody fingers.
Exhaustion, hunger and dehydration. Historical accounts report that several people died from heart attacks, strokes, or physical collapse. Local physicians and civic authorities made the problem worse. At first, believing the dancers suffered from hot blood Blood.
[01:53:32] Ronnie Jams: Hot blooded.
[01:53:33] Kenny Thunder: No, not that hot blood. Blood is an early medicine. The. The four humors flood. Black bile, yellow bile, and phlegm. Those
[01:53:40] Ronnie Jams: aren't humorous.
[01:53:40] Kenny Thunder: So they built a wooden stage, hired musicians, and brought in professional dancers. Thinking more movement would cure them.
[01:53:46] Ronnie Jams: That. That checks out logic.
[01:53:49] Kenny Thunder: Realizing their mistake, authorities banned music.
[01:53:52] Ronnie Jams: Did they bring in one of those guys with the long bird mask? I
[01:53:55] Kenny Thunder: think
[01:53:55] Ronnie Jams: so. And they were like, you need to dance more.
[01:53:57] Kenny Thunder: V for Vendetta.
[01:53:58] Ronnie Jams: Yeah,
[01:53:58] Kenny Thunder: yeah. Realizing their mistake, authorities banned music and public dancing. Yeah, that one, yeah. Alchemy. They loaded the random words. So off the rails. They loaded the afflicted into carts and took them to a mountaintop shroud shrine dedicated to Saint Vitus, the patron saint of dancers for absolution.
Waiting for an absolution and prayer that will
[01:54:20] Ronnie Jams: never
[01:54:20] Kenny Thunder: come. And the plague finally faded away by September 1518. So what happened here? Possible theories include mass psychogenic illness.
John Waller suggested that extreme regional stress, including famine Poor weather, poverty and diseases like syphilis.
[01:54:38] Ronnie Jams: Let me get this straight. They're blaming the dancing plague on syphilis?
[01:54:41] Kenny Thunder: That's usually what happens when I get syphilis. I start dancing on uncontrollably. Combined with superstitious beliefs about a curse from St. Vitus created by created a collective psychological breakdown. Ergot poisoning. An older theory proposed that eating damp rye bread contaminated with a fungus. Ergot.
[01:54:59] Ronnie Jams: Okay.
[01:54:59] Kenny Thunder: Contained or caused hallucinations and spasms. Though many modern historians doubt this because ergotism typically causes severe gangrene or physical incapacitation. Rather than coordinated dancing,
[01:55:12] Ronnie Jams: the literal opposite of dancing
[01:55:14] Kenny Thunder: or religious or cult activity, contemporary accounts suspect a religious sector curse. But to this day, no one really knows.
You just started dancing.
[01:55:24] Ronnie Jams: You're not me, right? Like everybody
[01:55:26] Kenny Thunder: was dancing.
[01:55:28] Ronnie Jams: Everybody cut foot
[01:55:30] The Bone Man: dancing
[01:55:30] Kenny Thunder: in the street.
[01:55:32] Ronnie Jams: I was. I went with footloose.
[01:55:34] Kenny Thunder: Footloose
[01:55:36] Ronnie Jams: Sunday.
[01:55:37] Kenny Thunder: That's number one. The dancing plague.
[01:55:38] Ronnie Jams: I don't believe this fact.
[01:55:40] Kenny Thunder: Okay, you don't have to. You could Google it. Google has all the facts.
[01:55:44] Ronnie Jams: Yeah.
[01:55:44] Kenny Thunder: Number
[01:55:45] Ronnie Jams: two, always tells the truth. Always.
[01:55:47] Kenny Thunder: I. Australia once lost a war.
[01:55:50] Ronnie Jams: They got big spiders there
[01:55:52] Kenny Thunder: against birds.
[01:55:53] Ronnie Jams: I was almost there.
[01:55:54] Kenny Thunder: In 1932, Australia deployed soldiers.
[01:55:57] Ronnie Jams: Ostriches, wasn't it?
[01:55:58] Kenny Thunder: With machine guns to deal with thousands of crop destroying. Emus.
[01:56:02] Ronnie Jams: Emu, same thing.
[01:56:04] Kenny Thunder: During the Great Depression, around 20,000 EMUs migrated to the wheat belt Wheaton of Western Australia, destroying wheat crops and knocking down fences on Farms. In November 1932, the Australian government sent soldiers from the emergency Royal Australian Artillery armed with Lewis machine guns and 10,000 rounds of ammunition to call the birds.
[01:56:24] Ronnie Jams: Seems excessive, but who am I?
[01:56:26] Kenny Thunder: Unfortunately it wasn't enough. The emus proved fast enough, agile and difficult to hit because they scattered into small groups. When machine guns began jamming and bullets had minimal impact, the military withdrew.
After failing to control the population, the government abandoned direct military calling and instead responded relied on a system of farm level bounties and exclusion fencing which proved far more effective, thus ending the great emu war.
[01:56:54] Ronnie Jams: Don't ever rely on Australia for military help.
They can't even
[01:56:59] The Bone Man: defy the great emu.
[01:57:01] Kenny Thunder: They can't even fight birds.
[01:57:03] Ronnie Jams: What a bunch of idiots.
[01:57:04] Kenny Thunder: Number three,
[01:57:05] Ronnie Jams: like, do you think that comes up every time, like a war almost happens in Australia?
You guys lost the birds?
I mean I would tell them,
[01:57:14] Kenny Thunder: yeah, I would say
[01:57:15] Ronnie Jams: people don't forget.
[01:57:16] Kenny Thunder: We don't forget.
Number three, Boston.
[01:57:21] Ronnie Jams: Boston
[01:57:23] Kenny Thunder: was once hit by a tsunami.
[01:57:26] Ronnie Jams: It was
[01:57:27] Kenny Thunder: of molasses.
[01:57:29] Ronnie Jams: What?
[01:57:30] Kenny Thunder: In 1919, a take burst and unleashed molasses. Into Boston's streets. The giant wave killed 21 people and injured around 150 more.
Basically, a large storage tank containing
[01:57:45] Ronnie Jams: literal disaster.
[01:57:46] Kenny Thunder: Roughly 2.3 million gallons of Lord in Boston's North End neighborhood burst open, unleashing a wave of molasses roughly 40ft high, traveling at roughly 35 miles an hour. What the fuck?
Sticky Surge.
The Sticky surge crushed buildings, knocked a firehouse completely clean off its foundation, and derailed an elevator elevated train car. Many victims.
This is like two
[01:58:14] The Bone Man: truths in a lie.
[01:58:17] Kenny Thunder: Like what? Many victims simply suffocated in the thick syrup.
[01:58:21] Ronnie Jams: Well, yeah. How the do you get out?
[01:58:23] Kenny Thunder: This is
[01:58:23] Ronnie Jams: the most ridiculous thing I think I've ever heard in my life. And you just said that other fact about the dancing plague like five minutes ago.
[01:58:31] Kenny Thunder: The disaster led to a landmark class action lawsuit against the US Industrial Alcohol Company and triggered major changes in the US Structural engineering and building code regulations.
It sounds like a bad cartoon.
[01:58:50] Ronnie Jams: I'm just trying to like
[01:58:52] Kenny Thunder: picture a way
[01:58:54] Ronnie Jams: and it doesn't even make any sense to me.
[01:58:56] Kenny Thunder: What was that movie with the rock where the. The water took over San Francisco, I imagine. Talk
[01:59:00] Ronnie Jams: about John Cudesack. California is going down.
[01:59:02] Kenny Thunder: That was a different, different disaster movie.
[01:59:06] Ronnie Jams: California is going down.
[01:59:08] Kenny Thunder: Imagine the rock driving a speedboat, San
[01:59:10] Ronnie Jams: Andreas
[01:59:11] Kenny Thunder: through molasses. Yeah, that one. Oh man, I will save you. But it's delicious.
Let me scoop this up while I'm getting through. Put it in the baked beans.
[01:59:22] Ronnie Jams: What I.
[01:59:24] Kenny Thunder: That, my friends, is facts. I think Bone is googling. He's like, what is this? I
[01:59:28] The Bone Man: was just curious how big a 2 million gallon tank would be. How big? It was like three Olympic swimming pools.
[01:59:35] Ronnie Jams: That's not even that big.
[01:59:36] Kenny Thunder: That doesn't seem big enough.
[01:59:37] Ronnie Jams: How. How is it big enough to kill 150 people or something? Or 22 people and murder or. Or maim 150 more.
[01:59:45] Kenny Thunder: Just one big wave down one street, I guess.
[01:59:47] Ronnie Jams: What the.
This makes it sound less cool when he googles it and realizes it's only three Olympic swimming pools. Like, that's still a
[01:59:54] Kenny Thunder: lot, I guess. Yeah, I guess it's
[01:59:56] The Bone Man: a lot. But that's 30ft tall.
[01:59:59] Kenny Thunder: Well, you gotta think I
[02:00:00] The Bone Man: don't know how wide and long and
[02:00:03] Kenny Thunder: I guess the swimming is getting
[02:00:04] Ronnie Jams: sexual again.
[02:00:04] Kenny Thunder: Swimming pool is pretty big. An Olympic one.
[02:00:07] The Bone Man: It's big.
[02:00:08] Kenny Thunder: Yeah, I mean they, they like buildings contain them. It's not like a pool in your backyard.
[02:00:13] Ronnie Jams: No, but like
[02:00:14] Kenny Thunder: they build whole arenas. But I'm just saying.
[02:00:16] Ronnie Jams: I'm just saying, like,
[02:00:17] Kenny Thunder: so imagine like an arena collapsing Full of molasses.
[02:00:20] The Bone Man: I'm just thinking of like. Well,
[02:00:21] Ronnie Jams: no, you're getting a little crazy now because these arena
[02:00:23] The Bone Man: storage.
[02:00:24] Ronnie Jams: Like, you tell me an arena fool. That tells me like, the whole thing.
[02:00:27] Kenny Thunder: Think about an Olympic arena when you watch Michael Phelps swim. Like, there's multiple pools inside that arena. We don't see the pool underneath. We only see the above. So, like, think about if a pool was flipped upside down.
Like, you would be as big as an arena with three pools in it.
[02:00:43] The Bone Man: Stack them on top of each other.
[02:00:44] Kenny Thunder: Stack them.
Big tanks, big molasses.
[02:00:48] Ronnie Jams: I still am a little more turned down now. I thought it was like, literally
[02:00:51] Kenny Thunder: San Andreas.
[02:00:52] Ronnie Jams: Yeah.
And then
[02:00:54] Kenny Thunder: whole city.
[02:00:56] Ronnie Jams: It wasn't the whole city. It was literally like one block. Probably got
[02:00:59] Kenny Thunder: hit
[02:00:59] Ronnie Jams: with a wave of molasses.
[02:01:01] Kenny Thunder: Enough to suffocate 30 people and hurt
[02:01:03] Ronnie Jams: me. That's wild. You could. I maintain. What a bunch of idiots. They couldn't get out of the way. I hate to be just a good.
[02:01:11] Kenny Thunder: Yeah. Not. Yeah. Not
[02:01:13] Ronnie Jams: sympathetic. Keep going. But like.
[02:01:15] The Bone Man: But run.
[02:01:16] Ronnie Jams: Yeah, like, get out of the way. It's malass.
[02:01:18] Kenny Thunder: How fast is 35 miles an hour? Accent? It's pretty fast. Can you imagine just being hit by
[02:01:23] Ronnie Jams: molasses? Can't run 35 miles an hour.
[02:01:26] Kenny Thunder: I mean, think about a car hitting you at 35 miles an hour. If you're standing still, it doesn't seem fast. 3
[02:01:30] Ronnie Jams: Olympic swimming pool size of molasses all at once. It probably weighs a lot more than a car.
What if you were the guy that didn't drown in it? You just instantly dead because you were just. And just
[02:01:43] Kenny Thunder: people
[02:01:43] Ronnie Jams: knocked on your ass by
[02:01:45] Kenny Thunder: people. Can't run 35 miles an hour. So you
[02:01:47] Ronnie Jams: knocked on your asses by molasses.
[02:01:49] Kenny Thunder: You physically could not outrun a wave of molasses. No,
[02:01:52] Ronnie Jams: you could.
[02:01:52] Kenny Thunder: A rhino could.
But people extra fat. But people cannot.
[02:01:57] Ronnie Jams: That was a previous fact, I think.
[02:02:00] Kenny Thunder: You know, you hear about, like, big tech and big pharma. This is what happens when big molasses goes
[02:02:05] Ronnie Jams: rogue.
This is why there was reform.
[02:02:09] Kenny Thunder: Start cutting.
[02:02:09] Ronnie Jams: Molasses was out of out of control, and we needed to rein them in.
[02:02:13] Kenny Thunder: That, my friends, is facts for days.
[02:02:16] Ronnie Jams: Wow. We went on an adventure there.
[02:02:18] The Bone Man: Yeah. It's time to go to bed.
[02:02:20] Ronnie Jams: I agree.
[02:02:21] Kenny Thunder: Bones out of here.
[02:02:22] The Bone Man: I'm out. Bon appetit.
[02:02:25] Kenny Thunder: Don't just be a part of the problem. Be the whole damn molasses problem.
[02:02:30] Ronnie Jams: And only you can prevent river fires.
[02:02:32] Kenny Thunder: Burning river. Sports Sportscast.
Everybody was surfing.
Surfing USA
[02:02:44] Ronnie Jams: Everybody was
[02:02:46] Kenny Thunder: surfing
[02:02:47] Ronnie Jams: untied
[02:02:49] Kenny Thunder: in the usa.
Good
[02:02:51] Ronnie Jams: night, Cleveland. Good night, Cleveland.
[02:02:53] The Bone Man: Good night, Akron.
[02:02:54] Kenny Thunder: Goodbye, Boston
[02:02:57] Ronnie Jams: gone. Wiped out by the molasses crisis of 1919.
Good
[02:03:04] Kenny Thunder: night.
[02:03:05] Ronnie Jams: Quiet on set.
[02:03:06] Speaker F: I now have two loves in my life.
Big city living and a voodoo woman named Phyllis.
[02:03:15] Ronnie Jams: I didn't think we'd be getting into Brad Pitt's ass.
I can't even say
[02:03:20] Kenny Thunder: I didn't think we'd be getting into Brad Pitt's ass.
[02:03:23] Ronnie Jams: Yeah, didn't think we'd get in there.
[02:03:25] Kenny Thunder: We talk a lot of analingus on this show.
[02:03:28] Ronnie Jams: So put your right foot in and take it your right foot out. Then put your right foot in and shut the hell up. Because it's not time for the hokey pokey. It's time for the Burning river sports cast.
[02:03:38] Speaker F: Motorboat. You play the motorboat.
You motorboat. Son of a. You old seal. Are you. You know, I was thinking during
[02:03:45] Ronnie Jams: that interview. What? What were you? Nothing. Because you don't have thoughts. Because you're a brainless idiot.
[02:03:51] Speaker F: Wow. My name is Uhtred, Son of Utrid,
[02:03:54] Ronnie Jams: by the way. I want my four star him back. It doesn't matter
[02:03:57] Kenny Thunder: what you think.
Women's Guide to To Anal Sex and it was the second edition. Who makes that second edition?
[02:04:04] Speaker F: The weather outside is weather.
[02:04:06] Ronnie Jams: The other one. The finger. The finger eating food. Fingers.
[02:04:09] Speaker E: Oh, my God. My ass is full of
[02:04:14] Speaker F: everywhere.
[02:04:15] The Bone Man: Yes.
[02:04:15] Kenny Thunder: Ejaculate all over my body and my genitals.
[02:04:18] The Bone Man: Yes.
[02:04:18] Speaker F: Oh, no.
We suck again.
[02:04:21] The Bone Man: You don't need fundamental when you got heart.
[02:04:24] Kenny Thunder: And Jesus. And Jesus.
[02:04:26] The Bone Man: That's right.
[02:04:26] Ronnie Jams: Touchdown. Anyway.
[02:04:28] Speaker F: What do you mean funny? Funny how? How am I funny?
[02:04:30] Ronnie Jams: It's going down. I'm
[02:04:32] Kenny Thunder: yelling. Timber.
[02:04:34] Speaker F: Godamn. Should
[02:04:36] Ronnie Jams: we start a meat podcast? Like, like, like, like the meat pod Slow roasted.
[02:04:44] Speaker F: The leads are weak. Leads are weak.
Leads are weak. You're weak.
[02:04:50] Ronnie Jams: What?
No browns, baby. All I do is win, win, win, no matter what.
[02:04:55] Speaker F: Erroneous. Erroneous on both counts. Oh, Lord.
[02:04:58] Ronnie Jams: I mean, when I. Last year, when I won and went home, you know, my wife's pants hit the ground. Wow. But damn,
[02:05:04] Kenny Thunder: I'm sorry I hijacked your segment for a second to do some good podcasting.
[02:05:10] Speaker F: You know why, Mr. Cuz? You drove a Hyundai to catch here tonight. I drove an $80,000 BMW. That's my name.
I live my life a quarter mile at a time.
[02:05:22] The Bone Man: You guys immediately insulted him.
[02:05:26] Speaker F: I desperately want to make love to
[02:05:27] Ronnie Jams: cheese.
[02:05:28] Kenny Thunder: We need cheese, girl. Now.
[02:05:29] Speaker F: Down goes Anderson. Down goes Anderson.
[02:05:33] Kenny Thunder: Who's canceled now?
Who's canceled now?
[02:05:36] Ronnie Jams: Probably me.
[02:05:37] Kenny Thunder: You making it for the fat people.
[02:05:40] Ronnie Jams: I'm not just you.
[02:05:41] Kenny Thunder: We're a whole race, basically.
[02:05:45] Ronnie Jams: No way. You're just straight. Just finger banging their salad.
[02:05:50] The Bone Man: You first get shocked and then you get the shocker.
[02:05:56] Speaker F: You like to see almost naked. That's cool, man. Whatever. No, no, no, no, no.
Are you not entertained?
Is this not why you were here?
