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What did we learn in week 1? Cade York is officially must see TV, York Peppermint Patties for all, Baker comes up short, Chubb being Chubb, and we break down the week 2 matchup against the God D*** Jets!
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[00:00:00] Speaker A: Tangible city of Cleveland has looked for a savior, and to no avail. 7898 days, 21 years, seven months, one week and six days ago, on a cool night in McKinney, Texas, a child was born. There were no wise men, but there was a golden leg. And on Sunday, in the midst of high drama at bank of America Stadium, from the logo with the hopes and dreams of the faithful all the way from shocked into Cuyahoga Falls, we were delivered. It was must see TV when Cade F. York Peppermint Patty drills a 58 yard field goal to end the streak and give the Browns a huge opening day victory. And we break it all down for you, next in our week one recap.
I have real concerns about this guy's mental fitness.
[00:01:13] Speaker B: The Queen just died. And.
[00:01:17] Speaker A: Any Anthony Schwartz.
I don't think he dropped every ball at camp, but could come down to a Cade York field goal. That would be nice, because he's must see TV.
Welcome into the Burning river sports cast. I'm Kenny Thunder alongside Red Hot Ronnie Jams, covering our week one victory here with the Cleveland Browns.
[00:01:42] Speaker B: Yep, and don't forget, everybody, you can find our podcast, the Burning River Sportscast, on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, Pandora, iHeartRadio, Pocketcast, Castro, and many, many more.
[00:01:58] Speaker A: All right, now we got that out of the way, let's get right into this. How about the Browns?
[00:02:03] Speaker B: Hell, yeah.
[00:02:04] Speaker A: We win an opening day game.
[00:02:06] Speaker B: Kate York is must see, must see TV.
[00:02:09] Speaker A: The most must see superstar in the NFL.
[00:02:12] Speaker B: There he goes.
[00:02:13] Speaker A: Cade F. York. His middle name starts with F. I looked all over. I couldn't find what it is because it's F. And Cade F in York.
[00:02:21] Speaker B: Cade F in York.
[00:02:23] Speaker A: No one knows what his middle name is, but his initial is F because he's Cade F in York.
[00:02:27] Speaker B: Let's go. All right, let's jump into this. We're going to start on the Carolina side. Obviously, everybody was watching Baker Mayfield. So what did we learn in this game? We learned that there were so many balls deflected at the line for Baker. Five of them, actually. And maybe they were correct. Maybe Baker Mayfield is too short.
[00:02:49] Speaker A: Look, I don't know that it was necessarily Baker's too short, but it was certainly intentional. Right? The game plan was for the D line to get their mitts in the air. They knew that's something that he struggled with.
[00:03:01] Speaker B: It was almost like the defensive line knew he was too short to play.
[00:03:04] Speaker A: It's like they've seen him before.
[00:03:05] Speaker B: Yeah. So, beyond the five deflected balls at the line. He also fumbled the ball four times.
[00:03:13] Speaker A: Yeah, that was weird because, I don't know. That's not something that. And they were mostly shotgun, although there was one late in the game that he dropped, just muffed under center.
[00:03:23] Speaker B: So of the four, I will say three of them were his fault. The other one, the center, basically just rolled to him.
[00:03:29] Speaker A: One of them hit him like in the head, like right in the face mask. I don't know what he was doing.
[00:03:33] Speaker B: It wasn't good. So it got so bad in the first half for Carolina that Baker and the offense started getting booed with eleven minutes left in the second quarter.
[00:03:43] Speaker A: Which, look, Baker or not, was kind of cheap from the Panthers fans because it would be like us booing Deshaun in his first game back after two years. Like, here's a guy new to town picking up the offense, coming off an injury and a surgery, and they're struggling early on and you're just booing them.
[00:04:04] Speaker B: Did Carolina just expect to come out and be world beaters?
They're the team to beat.
[00:04:09] Speaker A: They forgot who they were.
[00:04:11] Speaker B: They are who we thought they were.
[00:04:13] Speaker A: Temporary lapse of judgment, momentary insanity.
[00:04:16] Speaker B: So again, booed with eleven minutes left in the second quarter and then booed again at halftime. And if you watch the halftime show on CBS, there was some good clips said there they were covering the Browns game, and Phil Sims actually said at halftime that Baker needs to take a zannies. He followed it up with, and I quote, this dude's all over the place. Get him a gummy JB.
Not only that, from Quincy Avery, who, if you don't know, is the personal passing coach of Deshaun Watson. He tweeted, that's the Baker we know and love. So some shots fired from Deshaun's camp for who Knows what reason.
[00:04:55] Speaker A: There were shots fired all. I mean, social media was an absolute cesspool for. I mean, this has just been such a polarizing, divisive issue for Browns fans especially. I've never seen anything like it. And we've seen a ton of bad quarterbacks. We've seen a lot of position battles, a lot of head coaches, owners. At no point have I ever seen anything that's divided our town quite like this.
[00:05:16] Speaker B: No, it's pretty wild. But Baker must have been paying attention at halftime to his social media because he came out in the second half and played.
[00:05:23] Speaker A: He found that chip on his shoulder.
[00:05:25] Speaker B: He did. So while he still didn't get the job done when he was off the leash, he did go 16 to 27 for 235 yards, a touchdown and interception, four fumbles.
But he did play well in the second half, and he brought him back.
[00:05:39] Speaker A: And he found himself on the ground a few times.
[00:05:41] Speaker B: He did. We'll get to that. We'll get to.
[00:05:45] Speaker A: Yeah. I think overall, Baker, it's funny because I think watching that game, it was almost a microcosm of everything that we've seen over the last four years with Baker.
[00:05:55] Speaker B: It was like we replayed the entire four years in one single game.
[00:05:59] Speaker A: There was some bad, some mediocre, some really good, and none of them were really a consistent theme throughout. But ultimately, I think he did his job right. He had them in position to win the game, had the big throw to Robbie Anderson to get them back into, you know, as much as social media was kind of all over him early on, I think as we watched the Panthers drive down the field there towards the end of the game, I think every butthole in Cleveland was probably puckered going. I know mine was Baker's. Found it. This isn't good. He's into a rhythm. They're moving the ball.
[00:06:37] Speaker B: It's literally what you come to expect from Baker. Right. He has three really God awful quarters, and then all of a sudden he puts it together for a minute, and just like that, you're back in the game.
[00:06:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:06:47] Speaker B: So besides Baker Mayfield, obviously, we've covered Baker Mayfield beyond what we really needed to over the offseason because we knew we were playing in week one leading up to the trade. All that good stuff. So let's move on.
[00:07:03] Speaker A: I'm excited to put the Baker Mayfield talk to bed.
[00:07:06] Speaker B: Me, too.
Next up for the Panthers, Christian McCaffrey was basically non existent, and it wasn't his fault. It was play calling. They didn't even get him the ball.
[00:07:17] Speaker A: Yeah, play calling was weird, right? I think we all expected them to come out and probably run the ball 30, 40 times just because. But they didn't get a new quarterback.
[00:07:29] Speaker B: New offense, specifically, ran the ball ten times for 33 yards.
[00:07:34] Speaker A: Yes. I actually had in my game notes, just watching the game, that the biggest news on Panthers O to that point, which was just before halftime, was Christian McCaffrey's hairline. Really looking thin, dude. Looking just like Prince Harry. Next in line for the throne.
[00:07:50] Speaker B: Dang. Prince Harry. By the way, your dreams can come true. At 73 years old, he finally has his first job.
[00:07:57] Speaker A: No.
[00:07:59] Speaker B: Never stop dreaming, guys.
[00:08:00] Speaker A: That's Prince Charles. Prince Harry's the younger bald one.
[00:08:04] Speaker B: He's more bald.
[00:08:05] Speaker A: Kate Middleton.
Pip is the real star.
[00:08:09] Speaker B: Anyway, so CMC, like I said, ten rushes 33 yards.
He also had four receptions for 24. So basically nothing.
[00:08:20] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know what. He's been injured so much in the last couple of years.
I don't know what to expect from him the rest of the year. He obviously didn't show anything that special Sunday, but.
[00:08:37] Speaker B: It is what it is.
And then Robbie Anderson, Kenny's impact player, huge game. Five receptions, 102 yards and a touchdown.
[00:08:46] Speaker A: He did show up.
That was one of those lapses on the Brown side, certainly. I think as a defensive back, you learn that in youth football, right deep is the deepest. Never let a ball go over your head.
But Robbie Anderson found his way back there and made the Browns pay. So unfortunate for us. And that was really probably the galvanizing moment, I think, for the Panthers towards the end of the game that said, like, okay, we're back. We can do this. We can get back in. So everything about that was bad.
[00:09:16] Speaker B: It was bad. So that's the Carolina side. Their defense didn't really do much.
Not that our offense played great, but their defense didn't really do much to slow us down.
[00:09:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, you look at the time of possession, it was two to one or more.
[00:09:31] Speaker B: I've got it down here.
[00:09:32] Speaker A: Hang on, Browns.
[00:09:33] Speaker B: Yeah. So the time of possession, we have the Browns 38 26 and the Panthers 21 34.
[00:09:38] Speaker A: They weren't stopping us. We were stopping us because. And we'll talk Jacobi here in a sec. But we just couldn't sustain anything.
[00:09:45] Speaker B: Correct. So on the Cleveland side of things, let's start with the offense. So, Nick Chubb.
[00:09:52] Speaker A: Nick Chubb looked faster than I've ever seen.
[00:09:54] Speaker B: I would agree with that.
[00:09:55] Speaker A: I don't know what.
[00:09:55] Speaker B: A couple of times he got out in space, and I was like, wait a second.
[00:09:58] Speaker A: I literally texted you at the beginning after his first, like, three runs. And I was like, he is so fast.
[00:10:05] Speaker B: He really did look fast.
Chubb was just out there being Chubb. So, I mean, 22 carries, 141 yards. In case anyone's keeping track, that's a 6.4 yard average.
[00:10:16] Speaker A: Just a real professional effort there.
[00:10:18] Speaker B: 20 plus carries. He's averaging 6.4 yards.
[00:10:21] Speaker A: He just runs so angry. It's so violent.
[00:10:24] Speaker B: The best part is they show him on the sideline and he's just all business. Serious face, not barking, not yelling at anybody. Just, I'm Nick Chubb, and I run.
[00:10:34] Speaker A: Speaking of Mindset and focus real quick, I don't want to Belabor the Baker point, but I do think that that had a lot to do with his slow start. I think Baker was trying to be something that he wasn't. I think he was trying to be calm, cool, collected. The sideline reporters kept remarking during the game that Baker's just taking it one play at a time, and he's just even keeled. That's not Baker.
[00:10:54] Speaker B: Do you remember the few times that he attempted to do that in Cleveland? Didn't work out.
[00:10:58] Speaker A: Yes. It's not him. So I think that's probably what led to his slow start.
[00:11:03] Speaker B: I thought you were ready to put the.
[00:11:04] Speaker A: I am. I'm done. Baker's going to bed. He's asleep.
[00:11:07] Speaker B: Next up, Kareem Hunt. Let's pay the man. Give him an extension. Good Lord. I mean, we can win games with anyone under center as long as we have both these running backs.
[00:11:18] Speaker A: Maybe, but it certainly helps.
[00:11:20] Speaker B: It does help.
[00:11:21] Speaker A: Certainly helps.
[00:11:22] Speaker B: One big note for the game, I'm pretty sure Kevin Stefanski was listening to our podcast last week because we begged him.
[00:11:30] Speaker A: You begged him.
[00:11:31] Speaker B: I literally begged him to put Chubb and Hunt on the field together more often, and he did it.
[00:11:36] Speaker A: Stefanski literally took your advice and put them on the field.
[00:11:39] Speaker B: I think in his postgame presser, they asked him about it, and he said, you know, I saw on the Burning.
[00:11:43] Speaker A: River sportscast, red hot Ronnie jams.
[00:11:45] Speaker B: I heard Red hot Ronnie jams tell me, just get on his knees and beg and say, chubb and Hunt on.
[00:11:52] Speaker A: The field together gave him the blueprint. I was shocked to see that.
[00:11:56] Speaker B: I was, too, asking for it for.
[00:11:58] Speaker A: Two years now, and we saw it a little bit during the Fredie Kitchens era, but it hasn't been meaningful since then, where they were on the field together at the same time. No, but I do think that it does add a dimension of the offense, especially with Jacoby back there, that you have both of them, the potential for runs from both of them, both adequate pass catchers out of the backfield. So you just have a ton of think, um, you know, they cut. Was it.
Johnny Stanton was a fullback or whoever, so we don't really have a true fullback on the team. It makes sense to have at least Kareem Hunt back there. He's an adequate run blocker as well.
[00:12:35] Speaker B: Right. I know you remarked last week on the podcast, there's only one ball.
[00:12:41] Speaker A: Only one ball.
[00:12:42] Speaker B: But they have no idea who we're giving that ball to when both of them are back there.
[00:12:45] Speaker A: Four balls between them.
[00:12:46] Speaker B: Yeah, well, that's true.
[00:12:48] Speaker A: We think so.
[00:12:50] Speaker B: Anyways, allegedly, Kareem Hunt eleven rushes for 46 yards in a touchdown, and he added four catches for 24 yards and another touchdown.
[00:12:58] Speaker A: Quick note on Kareem Hunt because you said, pay the man. Is he more valuable getting paid resigned or is he more valuable as trade bait? We don't have any draft picks coming up.
[00:13:11] Speaker B: I know, but I think that him and Chubb in the backfield together, even if they're not together, just the fact that we have both of them on our team, it gives you so much insurance that I think he's much more valuable on the team. That's just my opinion.
[00:13:25] Speaker A: I wish that we could just mesh their names together into something cool, like Hub Chunt.
[00:13:34] Speaker B: That's starting to sound okay. So moving on here, we had DPJ. That was my impact player, and he made some pretty big catches in the first half early on to sustain some of those scoring drives. And then he really came alive late in the fourth quarter. He had a big diving catch on third down, another big catch on the final drive that set up the field goal.
[00:13:56] Speaker A: DBJ looked good. He was being mauled all game long and caught every ball in traffic.
I think when you look at the way that Brissette was delivering the ball, a lot of them weren't great. There was a lot of low ducks and things, but he was snagging them.
[00:14:11] Speaker B: There's two complete misses. We'll talk about that soon. But, yeah, he was gobbling everything up and he was a force out for.
[00:14:20] Speaker A: A guy that needed to have a good game.
[00:14:22] Speaker B: He showed up last week. I talked about setting the tone, and that's kind of what he did. I mean, if he's doing this every week, that's somebody that other defenses are going to have to watch.
[00:14:30] Speaker A: And it's just nice to know. And obviously, this is one game, right? He has to continue to do that. But if he does this all year long, we can feel really comfortable about having a solid number two. Right?
[00:14:42] Speaker B: Yeah. We're not so panicked anymore behind Amari now, number three. Well, that guy, by the way, DPJ. Six catches, 60 yards. So solid. But the number three, Anthony Schwartz. Kenny hates this guy, and for good reason. Two drops in the first half. Can we just make this dude a running back? That seems to be all he's good for.
[00:15:01] Speaker A: I don't hate anyone except for Anthony Schwartz. It would be like if I was doing a podcast and I was a mute. It's not a good skill set to have.
[00:15:12] Speaker B: Should we give it a try? Go.
You're right. This is bad.
[00:15:18] Speaker A: Did the listeners enjoy that?
[00:15:20] Speaker B: No.
[00:15:20] Speaker A: Me, finally, nobody enjoyed that.
[00:15:21] Speaker B: The only good thing Anthony Schwartz did the entire game is he did had one big catch in the second half to keep a drive going.
[00:15:28] Speaker A: He had one catch.
[00:15:29] Speaker B: Oh, it was his only catch.
[00:15:31] Speaker A: One catch in the.
[00:15:31] Speaker B: It was his only catch. So it was a big catch, but it was his only catch.
[00:15:35] Speaker A: One catch and he did. That was true. I wrote that down. Like, that was a big moment. That was a big conversion to get done. It was helping us run clock, one catch, 19 yards. He had two carries for 20.
[00:15:48] Speaker B: I told you, let's make him a running back.
[00:15:50] Speaker A: I don't disagree. I wrote that down, too.
[00:15:52] Speaker B: Have five running backs on the roster.
[00:15:56] Speaker A: Now we have six.
[00:15:56] Speaker B: Selton is actually a receiver and Schwartz is actually a running back. So they just swap places.
[00:16:01] Speaker A: I'm not ready to talk about Demetrik Felton just yet, but Anthony Schwartz. Yeah.
It was funny to me that they kept trying to get him on the end around because they want to get him involved because his speed is a weapon. But he just.
[00:16:16] Speaker B: I mean, if you ask me. So, one dimensional, what does Anthony Schwartz do? Well, they try and give him the ball in a reverse.
[00:16:22] Speaker A: That's his play. That's his MO, man, the old 22 trip.
[00:16:25] Speaker B: So next up we got Jacobi Brissette. Very underwhelming.
[00:16:30] Speaker A: Underwhelming for sure.
I think.
Be honest. He was what I expected.
[00:16:40] Speaker B: He is who we thought he was.
[00:16:42] Speaker A: He is who we thought he was.
He doesn't have the strongest arm. He's not the most mobile guy.
He's relatively poised.
[00:16:52] Speaker B: He got away from that one tack in order to pick up a few yards. Did you see it?
[00:16:57] Speaker A: Tremendous straight line speed.
He got hawked down by a guy that probably weighed 400 pounds. I don't know who that guy was. He was a defensive tackle.
He hawked him down, but he was a backup quarterback in the NFL. He was exactly what I thought he would be. He didn't make a lot of mistakes, which is good. He didn't turn the ball over, but he's just not able to make the big play when you need it.
[00:17:26] Speaker B: So his stat line for the day, his underwhelming stat line, 18 of 34. So just above 50% there for 147 yards. Piss poor. And one touchdown. And then four rushes for ten yards. But as Kenny mentioned, he did protect the ball. And just a Note here, Jacobi Brissette now has more week one wins for Cleveland than Baker Mayfield.
[00:17:48] Speaker A: Here we go. I thought we were done talking about Baker.
[00:17:50] Speaker B: I had to throw one more in there.
[00:17:52] Speaker A: Here's the other thing that I would note about Jacoby in his first game out as a Brown.
If the outcome was different.
I think a lot of us are probably singing a different tune this week. If you put up that stat line and you lose to Baker Mayfield and this whole thing just falls apart. I 100% agree with everybody would have been like, I don't know if we can survive. If we can survive the next ten.
[00:18:18] Speaker B: Somebody else is starting to home opener. But because the queen just died and she was around for 59 starting quarterbacks for the Browns, she just missed number 60 in Jacoby Brissette. And if he would have lost this game, she would have missed 61 as well. Fun. Well, I mean, she's going to miss all the rest.
[00:18:36] Speaker A: Fun. Stat. The queen just died.
[00:18:39] Speaker B: That's not a stat. But she was around for 59 quarterbacks.
[00:18:42] Speaker A: R-I-P. Yeah.
[00:18:43] Speaker B: So, man, two royal family references.
[00:18:46] Speaker A: Who are we?
We fought a war over this. We cover the Browns and geopolitical conflicts.
[00:18:55] Speaker B: No.
And then finally for the Browns, we paid in Joku big money in the offseason. What did we pay him big money for? To get his first target with three minutes and 30 seconds left in the third quarter.
[00:19:08] Speaker A: If he's going to have 1000 yard season, he has at least 993 yards to go.
[00:19:14] Speaker B: His per game average, he's going to need to pick it up. He now has one catch for seven yards. In case anyone was curious, this was.
[00:19:22] Speaker A: One of the more shocking developments to me, just the fact that the tight ends were involved so little.
[00:19:28] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. I mean, Jacobi Brissette, you figured there's going to be dump offs left and right.
[00:19:33] Speaker A: He probably needed to, to be honest, get that completion percentage.
Yeah, that was, that was a little shocking. I know Harrison Bryant got involved on a couple catches as well, but I think we need more out of Njoku. I think overall, when you look at the offensive game plan for the better part of three quarters, three and a half quarters, this was a good blueprint, right? Jacoby not making mistakes, doing just enough and just running the rock. And they knew it was coming, the defense knew it was coming, but you were still able to get behind that offensive line and make things happen because Chubb just runs so angry, so violent. And Kareem Hunt is just an absolute stud.
[00:20:16] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. So that's the offensive side of the ball for the Browns on defense here.
Miles Garrett really came alive in the second half.
[00:20:26] Speaker A: How about back to back sacks?
Hello, Baker Mayfield.
[00:20:31] Speaker B: He had two sacks on the game, and the first one he absolutely ripped Baker. And then the second one was a little bit of a strip sack, unfortunately, couldn't get the ball back, he had it in his hands and it popped out. But, yeah, back to back plays and he made his presence known there.
[00:20:48] Speaker A: You feel bad when we talked about the rookie left tackle going up against Garrett and, yeah, you just feel for.
[00:20:54] Speaker B: That guy, especially in that series. He actually played a lot better throughout the game than I thought he would. So Miles Garrett's full stat line, two sacks, one tackle for loss, two QB hits and one deflected, mean, that's a pretty good stat line. But that being said, that left tackle, being a rookie, played much better against Miles Garrett than I would have thought.
[00:21:17] Speaker A: Yeah, I just think he's not going to see anybody that looks like Miles the rest of the year.
[00:21:21] Speaker B: No.
So on the other side, we had clowny. He had two deflected passes early on, and it kind of set the tone. We came out and it was that first drive, they were back to back.
[00:21:31] Speaker A: Plays, I think big Mitts. That was one of the things, too.
[00:21:34] Speaker B: Or at least in the same series. I think it was.
[00:21:37] Speaker A: That was one of the things that stuck out to me early on in this game. Just in general, a lot of emotion going into this game. Everybody expected Baker, obviously, to bring that. I thought the Browns defense especially did a tremendous job of matching that intensity, of matching the energy coming out, deferring the kickoff, giving Baker the ball and just coming out and absolutely just getting after him.
[00:22:01] Speaker B: Yep. And then adding on to those deflected passes. Clowney also ended up with half a sack. Later on, he helped out John Johnson.
[00:22:08] Speaker A: I believe, get that full Clowney, so.
[00:22:11] Speaker B: And then next up, Grant Delpit with an interception. So that set up our first point to the game. That was a pretty big interception. A good play for him. I mean, it was kind of gift wrapped to him. Baker threw it directly at him.
[00:22:24] Speaker A: That was a bad throw. That was the old Baker.
[00:22:27] Speaker B: That was the one. I was like, where was that was. The answer is directly into Grant Delpit's hands.
[00:22:35] Speaker A: We've seen that.
[00:22:36] Speaker B: Yep. So. And then a couple other notes here. Tommy, Togi, Johnson, Ronnie Harrison all got a half sack each.
And then the Browns did do a really great job of keeping Carolina in third and long situations. I think that was a big reason why we ended up winning the game, is because they just made it so hard for them to convert average third down yardage, nine plus yards.
[00:23:02] Speaker A: Yeah, that's huge. Again, thinking about Blueprint to success here, how do we make this sustainable? How do the Cleveland Browns continue to win football games over the next ten weeks until Deshaun comes back? That's got to be a part of it, right? Keep the offense behind the sticks.
Tremendous job there. Just putting from pressure coverage.
Baker did them some favors, too. Dropping a couple snaps. Well, that helps you lose it down there and you don't get to go anywhere.
[00:23:35] Speaker B: Not to mention, I mean, even though we did say the coaching staff for Carolina, for whatever reason, didn't give Christian McCaffrey the ball enough. I mean, when they did give it to him, he made some plays, but overall we did a pretty good job of containing him.
[00:23:47] Speaker A: Yeah, all over him. The run defense looked pretty stout.
[00:23:51] Speaker B: Really.
[00:23:51] Speaker A: The defense played pretty well outside of the busted coverage.
[00:23:55] Speaker B: And everybody's going to gripe about that. I went into work this morning and people are telling me, well, their secondary was so bad. And I'm like, look, every team, every week has one or two busted coveRages. The offense on the other side has to take advantage of it and Baker happened to do that. So, I mean, it makes them look bad, but really two busted coverages in one game and that's pretty much all that they gave up was, I don't.
[00:24:21] Speaker A: Well, what would Billy Bob Thornton say in Friday night Lights?
[00:24:25] Speaker B: What would he say?
[00:24:26] Speaker A: Can you be perfect?
[00:24:27] Speaker B: That's true. We weren't perfect.
[00:24:29] Speaker A: We weren't perfect. We need to be perfect.
Permian, those two busted coverages need to.
[00:24:34] Speaker B: Get down to zero. Denzel Ward, Greg Newsom talking to you guys, mostly Greg Newsom, he thought that safety was coming.
[00:24:40] Speaker A: Outside of that, though, the defense played pretty, you know, I think, again, just blueprint for success. Just got to eliminate the mistakes. I think it was early in the season. I think when the cameras panned over to the sideline, you saw Miles grabbing for air a few times. Clowny.
[00:24:59] Speaker B: I feel like Miles. It's strange. It's almost a regular occurrence for him, though, like throughout the season. I think what you get is, I think Miles does occasionally take some plays off, but then when he goes hard, he goes hard.
[00:25:13] Speaker A: When he wins a sack you twice in a row, he can do.
[00:25:16] Speaker B: He goes hard and he gets tired at will. Yeah, but, yeah, I agree with you overall, I think the defense played very well in this game.
[00:25:26] Speaker A: A couple of weird penalties in this game on both sides. Early on the roughing the passer, I think it was Taven Bryan maybe that got caught.
[00:25:34] Speaker B: It was just a normal tackle.
[00:25:36] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm not real sure how they.
[00:25:38] Speaker B: Said that he drove his weight into him when they landed on the ground, but, I mean, he literally just tackled him.
[00:25:44] Speaker A: Put yourself in the position of being like a six foot three or six foot, 4280 pound man that's horizontal in the air. Where are you going?
[00:25:53] Speaker B: Let me just spin it midair and roll off of this guy so I don't land on him.
[00:25:57] Speaker A: Where are you going?
[00:25:59] Speaker B: Down.
[00:26:01] Speaker A: And then Jacoby, when he threw the punt in the air into the end zone and we got the Pi. That was a huge play on a pedal. One of the worst throws I've ever.
[00:26:14] Speaker B: I actually commented on it to my wife while we were watching the game. I said, look at this. He threw it so bad that the DB tackled our guy.
[00:26:23] Speaker A: When he put that, I just closed my eyes. I was like, what am I watching right now?
[00:26:29] Speaker B: Luckily, the DB tackled our receiver.
[00:26:32] Speaker A: I mean, bad job out of that guy.
[00:26:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:26:34] Speaker A: He had so much time to reset himself and make a play on the.
[00:26:38] Speaker B: Let me throw it straight up in the air, see what happens.
[00:26:40] Speaker A: That was awful.
[00:26:41] Speaker B: Yeah, so those were know. I know. All the Carolina fans are complaining and saying the roughing the passer call at the end of the game wasn't roughing the passer. The one they called against Carolina on mean, it was, if you look at the rules, they hit him in the head and neck area.
Like the rule or not, it's pretty clear cut.
[00:27:05] Speaker A: I think it was light. I think it was soft, especially at that point in the game. But, hey, here's the thing. For 22 years, that call went against us. So I'll take it.
[00:27:14] Speaker B: Yeah, 100%. And I would agree with you, it was probably pretty soft. But I think most calls in the NFL today are pretty soft.
[00:27:21] Speaker A: That's fair. And then I think the other interesting one was at the very end of the game.
[00:27:25] Speaker B: Oh, we definitely broke the rules.
Yeah, we broke the rules. You are not allowed to fake Spike and then Spike it. That is intentional grounding. 100%.
[00:27:35] Speaker A: Yeah. And if that's the reason you lost the game, I can't wait for the.
[00:27:39] Speaker B: NFL to release their statement saying, yeah, we missed this one.
[00:27:42] Speaker A: Combine that with the stat line, like if that was the reason you lost the game.
[00:27:47] Speaker B: Sorry, Jacobi. Like I said, we have a new starter for week two.
[00:27:50] Speaker A: Yeah, they would have just rolled out anybody.
Anybody but Jacoby.
[00:27:54] Speaker B: I'm available.
[00:27:55] Speaker A: That would be on every bumper sticker.
[00:27:56] Speaker B: I'm available. Red hot Ronnie Jams coming in to play quarterback for the Cleveland Browns.
[00:28:00] Speaker A: That was, man, that was bad.
[00:28:03] Speaker B: What was he doing?
[00:28:04] Speaker A: I was going to stroke out.
[00:28:06] Speaker B: What was he doing? All right, so that's kind of the offense and the defense. Now let's move on to the special team. Cade F. York. Cade York. Baby.
[00:28:19] Speaker A: Cade F. And York.
[00:28:20] Speaker B: Listen, we drafted this guy. And this is exactly why you draft kickers.
[00:28:25] Speaker A: So much talk around drafting a kicker. Fourth round. Don't do it. And the question is, like, then how do you find a kicker? I guess if not in the draft.
[00:28:35] Speaker B: But look, if he's a sure thing, you draft him. And this guy, listen, just listen to stat line. In his first game of his career, four for four field goals, a game winner from 58 yards, and he breaks the streak for the browns of opening day losses.
[00:28:52] Speaker A: I think that was one of the last things we said on our opening podcast. It was that Cade York might. Cade York is must see T. No, not just that. He might hit the game winner from deep. Listen, we said 70.
[00:29:01] Speaker B: We said 70. It was only 58, but we're a little off.
[00:29:05] Speaker A: But if they would have called the intentional grounding like they should have, by.
[00:29:09] Speaker B: Rule, would have been 70.
[00:29:10] Speaker A: It would have been 70. And let me tell you, that kick was good from Akron.
That would have been good from 70.
[00:29:16] Speaker B: It was like three quarters of the way up the upright.
It was like routine for him.
[00:29:22] Speaker A: It had just started its descent.
[00:29:23] Speaker B: Yeah, he had another 20 yards in him, easy.
[00:29:27] Speaker A: That was a powerful, powerful kick.
[00:29:30] Speaker B: Just sending a message to the AFC North. Like, if it comes down to a field goal, you guys are done, and.
[00:29:35] Speaker A: You just can't help but be anything but excited and happy for this guy. I think there were probably thousand Cade York jerseys sold in the last 24 hours.
[00:29:45] Speaker B: Well, you know why Cade York Peppermint patties all around, baby.
[00:29:49] Speaker A: If York Peppermint patties doesn't find this guy and run an ad campaign about how cooled.
[00:29:55] Speaker B: Cool.
[00:29:57] Speaker A: I can't talk.
How cool?
[00:30:02] Speaker B: Are you ever going to say this?
[00:30:03] Speaker A: How cool Cade York is? It's a disservice to mankind.
[00:30:08] Speaker B: Oh, I would agree with that.
[00:30:10] Speaker A: Cade York must see TV.
[00:30:13] Speaker B: Must.
[00:30:13] Speaker A: Absolute must see TV. Super excited for him.
The thing that worries me about kickers, though, is they fall out of favor so quickly. Like, we're all excited about Cade York today. I hope that when he misses a kick, the world doesn't come down on him.
[00:30:30] Speaker B: I don't think it will. I mean, you don't spend a draft pick on a guy I don't know.
[00:30:35] Speaker A: Evan McPherson is like, public enemy number one right now in Cincinnati, and he didn't turn the ball over five times.
[00:30:41] Speaker B: I actually disagree with that. I mean, I know he really shanked that last one, but, hey, Lace is out, man. Lace is out. Everybody knows that.
But, yeah, Cade York definitely must see TV. We tried to tell you guys, and nobody listens.
[00:30:56] Speaker A: Cade effing York.
[00:30:58] Speaker B: He's the man.
[00:30:59] Speaker A: I think I have to get myself a Cade York jersey.
[00:31:01] Speaker B: I might. That might have done.
[00:31:03] Speaker A: Know, in most towns, everybody wears the quarterback jersey, and no one wants to wear a Deshaun jersey just with everything that's going on. But that's a jersey you can wear proudly.
[00:31:12] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. I mean, listen, we've been begging for a good kicker since Phil Dawson left.
[00:31:18] Speaker A: And they ran that guy out of town.
[00:31:21] Speaker B: You're right. I shouldn't say he left. He definitely got. They just got rid of him. We've been begging for a good kicker since then, and I think we finally found one. I know Kenny talked about him looking at the flags that, you know, put in the stadium in the offseason and learning how to kick in the wind and all this stuff. So I think we finally have a kicker with the leg that can really deliver some big kicks.
[00:31:42] Speaker A: And that's the thing. We could probably talk all day about Cade York, but we shouldn't.
[00:31:45] Speaker B: The long segment.
But good Lord, I am excited about him.
[00:31:50] Speaker A: The thing is, he has a leg. He has the leg talent, right? And he's young. At 21 years old, he's only going to get more accurate.
[00:31:57] Speaker B: Have you heard all the interviews? Like, with the players, he's so good.
[00:32:01] Speaker A: On a camera or on a mic.
[00:32:03] Speaker B: But with the rest of the coaching staff and the players, they ask all these guys about Kate York, and they're like, this guy's just got dead eyes. He just comes in here and all he worries about is kicking. You ask him what he's doing. I kick field goals.
[00:32:16] Speaker A: He's a kicker born to kick.
[00:32:17] Speaker B: I kick field goals.
[00:32:18] Speaker A: I think he has that tattoo on the back of his neck. Born to kick.
[00:32:21] Speaker B: I kick field goals.
[00:32:22] Speaker A: I kick field goals. Yeah.
[00:32:23] Speaker B: So that's all he does. And he doesn't worry about anything else. But anyways, we'll move on. We've spent a lot of time on Cade York.
[00:32:29] Speaker A: Cade in York.
[00:32:31] Speaker B: Pepper must see TV.
[00:32:34] Speaker A: Peppermint patties for everyone.
[00:32:35] Speaker B: All right. But Jorquiz, he actually did a pretty good job keeping them in tough field position for the game.
But he's a punter. I'm not talking about the punter, but we will talk about Demetrius Felton.
[00:32:48] Speaker A: Just complete liability from the very first kick. Just iffy the second one. Iffy. And then straight up muffs the third one.
[00:32:59] Speaker B: I was worried right off the rip. I mean, the first punt to him, he literally fell down forward catching it, and he didn't even call a fair catch with probably three or four guys around him. And I was just like, what is. That's not good. And then he does it again. And then he does it again.
[00:33:13] Speaker A: I almost wonder if he looks so uncomfortable back there. I almost wonder if it's a situation where obviously the running back room is deep and so loaded, and Stefanski went to him and said, you're an athlete. We want to get you on the field. You're going to return kicks.
[00:33:33] Speaker B: You ever returned kicks before?
[00:33:34] Speaker A: And I think it's one of those where when your boss asks you to do something and you're like, I don't know how or I don't want to, or I'm not good at that. But you just accept it and say, yes.
I'm sure he has a positive attitude about it. He's excited that he gets to be a part of the game and wants to be on the field. Sure, Coach. I'll do anything to help the team, but sometimes you're just not comfortable.
[00:33:58] Speaker B: Yeah. Quick story about my college football days at Mount Union. My sophomore season, they decided that they needed more kick returners. They put me in a kickoff is fairly easy to catch. It's not that tough a punt. A punt is hard to catch.
[00:34:15] Speaker A: Much harder.
[00:34:16] Speaker B: It's so bad. I lasted probably 40 minutes as a punt returner in college because I could not catch a punt to save my life.
[00:34:24] Speaker A: It's not fun.
[00:34:25] Speaker B: Oh, it's not fun at all, especially when those guys know how to kick well. And I'm guessing that's kind of what's going on with Demetrius Felton right now is kind of what you said. They threw him in and they said, you're going to be our kick returner because you're an athlete and he's like.
[00:34:40] Speaker A: You can't be honest, right? You can't be like, I don't know about that one, Coach.
[00:34:43] Speaker B: How does it look if you just.
[00:34:44] Speaker A: Tell him, no, you're not on the team anymore, Demetrius.
[00:34:48] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:34:48] Speaker A: But anyway, absolute liability. Stefanski came out today and said no plans to change direction there as of right now. So for now, he remains a liability.
[00:34:58] Speaker B: Hopefully they're seeing something we're not.
[00:35:01] Speaker A: I don't know. They keep throwing the ball. Anthony shorts so well, there's that.
[00:35:04] Speaker B: So overall, this game was all about the Browns running backs. They ran the clock, they controlled the game, and then our defense, they bent a little bit at times. Obviously, the Panthers were able to get back into the game late, but overall, I think they got the stops when.
[00:35:24] Speaker A: They needed so, yeah, again, blueprint for success. Control the clock, run the ball, don't turn it over. And the Browns are going to have to win ugly a lot this year.
[00:35:34] Speaker B: Yeah, especially this first half.
[00:35:36] Speaker A: Yeah, we talked about probably the first.
[00:35:38] Speaker B: Few games after Watson comes back, too.
[00:35:41] Speaker A: Just the Browns remaining buoyant. I mean, winning week one is a huge start because you can't take for granted any of the next ten games.
[00:35:49] Speaker B: You predicted we would lose.
[00:35:51] Speaker A: Yeah, I did.
[00:35:52] Speaker B: So winning week one is huge.
[00:35:54] Speaker A: It's really big because you just don't know how many of those you're going to get over the next ten weeks. And if you can remain semi just competitive, well, it's the old adage, until.
[00:36:06] Speaker B: December, every win in the NFL is a win.
[00:36:09] Speaker A: Is that an old adage?
[00:36:11] Speaker B: I don't know. It is now. The other big notes from the game.
Yeah, so some other big notes for the game. Like we had mentioned, CMC was held in check, 54 yards rushing. Anytime you hold CMC a 54 yards rushing, Carolina is probably losing that game.
Then we go down here. Total yards for the Browns, 355. Total yards for the Panthers, 261. We mentioned time of possession. Browns 38 26, Panthers 21 34.
So recipe for success, control the running backs, controlling the ball, moving the ball, controlling the clock and defense getting stops when they need to.
[00:36:59] Speaker A: Here's the biggest thing.
[00:37:01] Speaker B: What's the biggest thing?
[00:37:03] Speaker A: 26 24. Browns win week one for the first time since 2004.
[00:37:08] Speaker B: That is the biggest thing. You know, what's a bigger thing?
[00:37:11] Speaker A: Oh, I'm scared.
[00:37:13] Speaker B: Cade York. Peppermint patties all around.
[00:37:14] Speaker A: Peppermint patties all around.
[00:37:16] Speaker B: Let's go. Cade York.
[00:37:18] Speaker A: Cade York. Peppermint patties. Cade fan York.
[00:37:20] Speaker B: All right, so around the AFC north, there were some wild things that happened around the AFC North.
[00:37:26] Speaker A: Week one was weird.
[00:37:28] Speaker B: Yeah, it was. I mean, the Steelers, the Steelers beat the Bengals in that wild overtime finish.
[00:37:35] Speaker A: Joe Burrow, was Oprah out there? Just, you get a turnover, you get a turnover, you get a turnover.
[00:37:41] Speaker B: Oh, man. Not only did he have four interceptions, but he also lost a fumble. He fumbled it twice, but he lost one.
[00:37:48] Speaker A: Five turnovers for the game.
[00:37:49] Speaker B: Good Lord.
[00:37:50] Speaker A: No one saw that coming by the.
[00:37:53] Speaker B: All everybody talked about for the Bengals all offseason is how they. I mean, I'm not saying that Joe Burrow's not a good quarterback, but he had a terrible, terrible game. So you would have never guessed that coming out of the gates. He's just five turnovers and they lose to the lowly Steelers, who are in full rebuild mode.
[00:38:07] Speaker A: No, not at all. I mean, he was the darling of the offseason because of last.
[00:38:12] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And then other big notes in that game for the.
They. They limped to the finish line. TJ Watt, potentially done for the year with a torn peck. He's out there getting second opinions right now, but I don't really know what the second opinion on a torn peck is. Yep, still torn.
[00:38:31] Speaker A: Still torn.
[00:38:32] Speaker B: So TJ, you know, obviously his brother JJ Watt had a torn peck in his career, and he actually was able to come back in like three months. So we might still see TJ later this year, Christmas. But, I mean, yeah, he's missing significant time.
[00:38:47] Speaker A: Can we say Christmas? Or is it like holiday festival time?
[00:38:52] Speaker B: We might see him around.
Uh, and then, you know, he said he was over his foot injury. He had that Liz Frank thing going, you know, the fourth quarter foot injury. I believe it was the same foot. You see him walking in a boot after the game. So those are huge losses. I mean, that's basically the Steelers best two players. Right.
[00:39:11] Speaker A: But they still won. And I don't know, Mike Tomlin, just Evan McPherson. That team scares.
They're just, they just find ways to win.
[00:39:21] Speaker B: They do. Mike Tomlin is a great coach. I mean, as much as we all hate the Steelers.
[00:39:26] Speaker A: Oh, I hate the Steelers.
[00:39:27] Speaker B: F those guys.
[00:39:28] Speaker A: If you're from Pittsburgh. F you. Yeah, all of you, take your yins and take your yins and yangs and.
[00:39:36] Speaker B: Get out of here.
[00:39:36] Speaker A: Get out of here.
[00:39:37] Speaker B: Yinzers. But no, Mike Tomlin is a great, great football.
You know, they're always going to be in the game and have Mike Tomlin.
[00:39:45] Speaker A: Trubisky played pretty well. I mean, he led to.
[00:39:47] Speaker B: I was surprised he didn't light anything up, but he played well.
[00:39:52] Speaker A: He was adequate. Right?
[00:39:54] Speaker B: He was better than Jacob.
[00:39:55] Speaker A: Yeah. He played better than Jacoby, that's for sure.
Yeah. And Jacoby wasn't.
[00:40:02] Speaker B: No. So the Steelers end up beating the Bengals in overtime. Nobody picked that. So obviously, as far as our tallies go, we both picked that, so picked it wrong.
[00:40:13] Speaker A: I'm glad that that game did end, though, with a winner because if they would have got a tie, that just kind of helps both of them. In terms of the AFC north battle.
[00:40:22] Speaker B: At the end of the, the division. What division are the. Who was it that tied this week?
[00:40:28] Speaker A: The AFC South.
[00:40:29] Speaker B: There was no single winner. Not a single winner played each other. There was not a single winner.
[00:40:34] Speaker A: This is a bad job out of.
[00:40:36] Speaker B: So no, the Ravens. Me and know, I think everybody, the whole world knew that was going to be a.
Did the jets managed to keep it close for a half, but the Ravens.
[00:40:47] Speaker A: Really ran away with so, yeah, too much firepower in Baltimore, Lamar, too much.
[00:40:53] Speaker B: Suck in New York.
[00:40:54] Speaker A: Lamar played well and way too much stock in New York, which we'll get into here in a moment. But quick note about the Ravens jets game. I'm in, like, a survivor's pool, and I was like, clearly the jets are going to lose week one. They're the worst.
I thought it was a loser's pool, and so I picked the jets to lose. I was like, yeAh, this is great. And I get a text this morning from the group, and they say half of the league is out after week one. It was a wacky week one, and I was like, let me check the standings and see which poor bastards got cut.
It's a winner's pool. I was like, guys, I swear I didn't pick the jets to win. Why would I pick the jets to win? It's the most easily. And they were like, thanks for your donation, bud.
[00:41:42] Speaker B: Feels bad after week one. At least you don't have to pay attention anymore.
[00:41:47] Speaker A: I guess so.
[00:41:48] Speaker B: But we have a podcast, so you should probably pay attention.
[00:41:50] Speaker A: So tally for week one. I'm in the hole.
[00:41:54] Speaker B: Basically. You suck.
[00:41:56] Speaker A: One, two. Ronnie's up to one. I'm a genius because I also picked the Browns to lose, which I'm happy to be wrong about, by the way.
[00:42:04] Speaker B: But you're still an idiot. So let's get into a quick revenue break here. That'll do it for the week one wrap up, so we'll get into a revenue break.
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[00:42:58] Speaker A: Family owned Topath Distillery get some. Get some.
[00:43:03] Speaker B: All right, now that we made our revenue, let's move on to the week two preview. So we're going to start here with opposition research.
[00:43:12] Speaker A: Opposition research.
[00:43:14] Speaker B: All right, so the matchup preview here, obviously we're playing the Jets. The goddamn Jets. The damn the goddamn jets.
Oh, man, I hate them.
I don't know, I don't care about the Jets.
[00:43:27] Speaker A: Edit that. I don't care about the Jets.
[00:43:29] Speaker B: Yeah. So let's get into this here. We'll do some physician matchups first.
[00:43:36] Speaker A: No, we won't.
[00:43:37] Speaker B: Oh, we won't. I'm actually going to send it over to our resident historian, Kenny Thunder, for some info, some opposition research on the Jets.
[00:43:50] Speaker A: Just no one even knows what you're talking about anymore.
All right, so just recap real quick. Jets, Ravens, jets get blown out. Just no emotion in that game. I don't think they converted a third down until the second half. Essentially scored three points. Garbage touchdown at the end.
So what do we have in the Jets? What do we have to look forward to here? Second year head coach Robert Sala, four and 13 in the 2021 campaign, has called this team, quote, ridiculously young.
[00:44:25] Speaker B: That sounds like code for trash.
[00:44:28] Speaker A: It's code for something. I think it's code for please don't fire me after year two. Certainly New York is a tough market to survive in.
Already we've seen after week one, Joe Flacco did not play all that well. Threw the ball 59 times, 60 times.
[00:44:44] Speaker B: 59 times. When Joe Flacco throws the ball 59 times, you lose.
[00:44:48] Speaker A: There was already a lot of conversation today about bringing in Mike White, who had some fireworks last year.
[00:44:55] Speaker B: Not only conversation today, he was being cheered for in the true true.
[00:44:59] Speaker A: And Robert Salah came out today and said there was still film to watch and that basically all options were still on the table.
[00:45:06] Speaker B: Basically a ringing endorsement for Joe Flacco.
[00:45:08] Speaker A: Ringing endorsement.
[00:45:10] Speaker B: And in case anyone can't recognize the.
[00:45:12] Speaker A: Sarcasm in our voice, I did hear, I was listening to some New York radio briefly today and heard one of the hosts of his show refer to the problems with Joe Flacco, just not being able to move in the pocket, that he looked like a cigar store.
[00:45:28] Speaker B: Bad, huh?
[00:45:29] Speaker A: That bad?
[00:45:29] Speaker B: That bad.
[00:45:30] Speaker A: So obviously, I think it'll be interesting to see as the week develops whether they continue to stick with Joe Flacco or if they decide to roll with Mike White.
So thinking about the jets in general, ranked dead last in 2021 in defense, allowing 397 yards a game, 29.6 points per game. So that was obviously a priority for them in the offseason, 30 points a game. I didn't realize that historically, like Owen, 16, Browns bad.
[00:46:02] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:46:03] Speaker A: Yeah. So spent some time and money there in the offseason, bringing in DJ Reed from Seattle, Jordan Whitehead from Tampa Bay.
Had three first round picks in the 2021 draft, spent one of those on sauce Gardener, a little up and down in week one. Had a big sWAT in the end zone on Marky Andrews early in the game, but also got burned late on a Lamar Jackson touchdown pass to Rashad Bateman. That being said, he has all the tools and looks like a player. So maybe one to keep an eye on this week.
Jermaine Johnson, defensive end, 26th overall in this year's draft. Just overall. A lot of youth on this team, a number of rookies playing key positions there.
So that kind of rounds out at least what they were looking to add to the defense to really bolster that for this year. But let's talk Derek Wilson, too, right? Yeah, but he doesn't play defense.
[00:47:02] Speaker B: True.
[00:47:02] Speaker A: We're going to talk about him.
[00:47:03] Speaker B: You mentioned the draft. I just got excited because I just.
[00:47:05] Speaker A: Like Ohio State because we didn't have any draft picks.
[00:47:08] Speaker B: We never had draft picks ever again.
[00:47:10] Speaker A: Never again.
So let's talk offense. Offensive line, I think is one of the biggest matchups to watch this week. Certainly we've talked at length about the Browns defense and Miles and Jadavion and just the havoc they can wreck on a team.
Mackay Beckton went out in August. I think they brought in Dwayne Brown to shore that up, and then he got hurt. So they're now starting a rookie at left tackle, Max Mitchell, who really was the only offensive lineman that played well at all in the Ravens game.
[00:47:45] Speaker B: If the Stars could align any better for Miles Garrett to start off the season for what I've predicted as a record breaking year for Miles Garrett, in case I didn't say that last week, I believe Miles Garrett gets Defensive Player of the Year this year and breaks.
[00:48:04] Speaker A: The Sacks record 600 sacks.
[00:48:06] Speaker B: Whoa, whoa.
No, I don't think he gets that many, but I do think he breaks the record and this is a good way to start the season against two rookie left tackles.
[00:48:18] Speaker A: So, yeah, Max Mitchell, as I said, played pretty well in the first week, but I think struggled as the game wore on and not a good sign before Miles and Davion show up. So Flacco, just under constant pressure, offensive line did not play well at all. They've shuffled that offensive line quite a bit. George Fant was originally slated to play left tackle. They moved him to right tackle after the injuries and after moving Max Mitchell over to left. So just a lot of shake up there guys that have not played together a lot.
[00:48:56] Speaker B: You mentioned the pressure on Joe Flacco. He did get sacked three times last week and there was multiple QB hits and pressures.
[00:49:03] Speaker A: It was ugly. It was pretty bad in terms of weapons I think you mentioned Garrett Wilson.
[00:49:11] Speaker B: Yeah. So the jets wide receivers versus the Browns DBs, I think is a good matchup to watch here.
[00:49:17] Speaker A: Yeah, I might disagree with you. I don't know if this is going to be a good matchup, but they do have a couple athletes.
[00:49:24] Speaker B: I say it's going to be a good matchup because we should win it. Well, we should win it. But like we talked about, there was some broken coverages last week.
And really for the jets, this is one of the only bright spots on their entire team is their wide receiving core.
[00:49:41] Speaker A: Yeah. Garrett Wilson, he didn't play a lot early, but got involved later in the game. Ended up with, I think, four catches for 52 yards. So I think they tried to get him the ball as the game went on. They realized quickly, obviously their offense had some gaps and they were trying to find something anywhere. And he's one of those. That certainly is a tool.
[00:50:02] Speaker B: You could just call Garrett Wilson.
[00:50:06] Speaker A: He has all the tools.
[00:50:07] Speaker B: There you go.
[00:50:08] Speaker A: Elijah Moore, and I'll slate this in and I don't even know if this is the right segment, but I'll slate this in as my guy to watch this week. I think if the jets, not the.
[00:50:17] Speaker B: Right segment, quit getting excited.
[00:50:19] Speaker A: Sorry. I'm there. I'm in.
I already went there, so I can't take it back now. Elijah Moore, I think is probably their biggest weapon. Didn't have an overwhelming rookie campaign, 40 catches, 500 yards or so last year, but draws a lot of comparisons to Steve Smith. I think just due to stature, they're both littler guys.
[00:50:38] Speaker B: Didn't have an overwhelming campaign because they're the Jets.
[00:50:42] Speaker A: Right?
[00:50:43] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't care about the jets, but.
[00:50:44] Speaker A: In terms of being an athlete and having good hands, being a good route runner, I think he's one of the lone bright spots that if the jets do accomplish anything on offense, he's going to be the beneficiary there.
CJ Uzama, brought in from the Bengals this year, was looking forward to being a big part of the offense. Goose egg in week one. Not a catch.
[00:51:08] Speaker B: How'd that work out for you?
[00:51:09] Speaker A: Not very good.
[00:51:11] Speaker B: No. But you mentioned the receivers, Elijah Moore, Garrett Wilson, and then also Corey Davis. They all had decent games, but I guess that's going to happen when your quarterback throws the ball 59 times.
[00:51:20] Speaker A: Yeah, I hope they throw the ball 59 times against us if they're throwing.
[00:51:24] Speaker B: The ball 59 times against the Browns because we'll win. I'm feeling pretty confident.
[00:51:28] Speaker A: We touched on the running back battle last week a little bit. Michael Carter, Bruce Hall.
[00:51:33] Speaker B: I don't know why, but we did.
[00:51:36] Speaker A: Because we don't care about the jets, but nobody cares about nothing really to report after week one. Michael Carter still seems to be the leader in the clubhouse in terms of their starting running back, which I think.
[00:51:51] Speaker B: It got solidified a little bit more because they tried to get breeze hall going early and he fumbled and they backed off of that.
[00:51:59] Speaker A: He looked a little lost out there. He looked like a rookie in the NFL.
So he did rack up 61 yards.
[00:52:06] Speaker B: But not to be outdone, did not. Michael Carter went ahead and dropped a wide open touchdown pass that literally nobody.
[00:52:12] Speaker A: Around him sure did. So he averaged six yards of carry, which is good. Caught seven passes out there. So he has some skills, but obviously in crunch time was not able to deliver.
[00:52:24] Speaker B: So I think there's, I think he puts up the better stats simply because he's the better pass catcher and they will be Passing a lot.
[00:52:30] Speaker A: Yeah. So I think some question marks around that running back room in New York.
So that's kind of the offensive recap.
[00:52:44] Speaker B: Know they're not built to play from behind. So I think the game plan for the Browns is going to be the same as the game plan last week. It's going to be we got to lean on our running backs, run that clock, get up and let our defense do their thing.
[00:52:57] Speaker A: Yeah, and we talked a little bit about the defense already. I think that's the matchup in terms of what's another strength for the jets is that defensive front. Well, first sauce gardener I think is somebody to watch out for.
[00:53:11] Speaker B: Name sauce.
[00:53:12] Speaker A: Got all the sauce. Sauce. But on defense just got the sauce. Glad to have Carl Lawson back after he tore his Achilles in 2021. Missed the whole season. CJ Mosley was productive last week. Led the team in tackles. Quan Alexander, former Pro Bowler, bounced around the last couple of years just due to injuries. SAN FRANCISCO, New Orleans but that defensive line has some athletes there with Lawson, Jermaine Johnson, Quinn and Williams. So that matchup and the Browns running game I think is going to be.
[00:53:44] Speaker B: Luckily, our offensive line played pretty well first game.
[00:53:49] Speaker A: And if you're looking at special teams, they have Greg the leg who did not play very well in week one.
[00:53:55] Speaker B: He missed some kicks, wasn't it? Multiple kicks?
[00:53:58] Speaker A: I think he missed a field goal attempt from 45 and missed an extra point late in the game.
[00:54:03] Speaker B: Multiple kicks. So basically what we're looking at is dropped passes, missed kicks and turnovers from the jets in week one. And they looked bad.
[00:54:12] Speaker A: They looked really bad.
Also have in my jets notes. For some reason, Joe Burrow refused to shower after the game. Just wants to sit in his own stank after turning the ball over five times.
[00:54:23] Speaker B: Why is that in your Jets?
[00:54:26] Speaker A: I don't know, but there it is.
[00:54:30] Speaker B: A good note.
[00:54:31] Speaker A: He wants to sit in his own stank.
[00:54:33] Speaker B: So for the Browns jets game for week two, this is where we talk about your player to watch. Kenny already mentioned his Elijah Moore. So his is Elijah Moore. He's going with that. WHat do you think he does?
I didn't think that far ahead.
[00:54:49] Speaker A: No, I did. I think he's probably in the seven to eight catches range again for around 100 yards. And I think if they have a score on offense, I think he's the one that gets in fair.
[00:54:59] Speaker B: So for me, my player to watch in game two is actually Amari Cooper.
We tried to get him involved throughout the game.
It didn't go real well. He only had three catches for 17 yards in week one.
But the Ravens were able to pass pretty easily on the Jets. So even with Jacoby back there, I see Amari having a much bigger game in week two. I would say probably somewhere in the range of six to eight catches for, I would say just shy of 100 yards. And I'm hoping for a touchdown for him, too.
[00:55:35] Speaker A: We need him.
We got to find a way to get him the ball. They were creative in trying to find ways to get Anthony Schwartz involved for some reason.
[00:55:43] Speaker B: Let's get creative to get Anthony Schwartz involved, but not, you know, it doesn't.
[00:55:47] Speaker A: Have to be overly complex. Right. I think you can get him involved early with some timing routes, some quick inside things. He's such a good route runner. I know they tried to force him on the out and up in the end zone on a short route early in the game, and it just didn't work.
[00:56:02] Speaker B: But I will say that Jacoby missed him on a wide open.
He beat a DB bad. Dude, almost fell down, missed him so bad, just wide open. And Kobe decided, let me put some air under this one and sail it five yards over his head.
[00:56:17] Speaker A: And I think that's the problem with Jacoby, right. I think that's just a throw he can't make.
[00:56:21] Speaker B: Why? Once he's beat, you just laser it in there and say, there's nobody around him right now. Let me just throw him the ball real quick.
[00:56:27] Speaker A: Moment's too big.
[00:56:29] Speaker B: Jacoby, Jacoby, Jacoby. You want to keep your job, you make those plays.
[00:56:34] Speaker A: He knows he's got it for the next ten weeks.
[00:56:36] Speaker B: What else are we going to do Josh Dobbs.
I'm not calling for him, but. All right, let's move on. King of the North.
[00:56:45] Speaker A: King of the North.
[00:56:47] Speaker B: So the AFC north week two preview and picks. Let's remind you of the tally here.
[00:56:54] Speaker A: YOu have to let it breathe if we're going to play a sounder.
King of the North.
[00:56:59] Speaker B: Cut it and then go.
[00:57:00] Speaker A: It's easier if you just let it breathe.
[00:57:02] Speaker B: All right, well, now you have to cut all this out.
[00:57:04] Speaker A: No, I'm going to keep it in there. I'm just letting you know that we have to pause.
[00:57:09] Speaker B: You can't keep all this in there.
[00:57:10] Speaker A: In order to play a sounder. Oh, it's staying in. It's fine.
[00:57:12] Speaker B: You're the worst. So the AFC north week two preview.
[00:57:16] Speaker A: And picks here still didn't let it breathe.
All right, we're good.
[00:57:22] Speaker B: Now the AFC north week two preview and picks. Let's remind everybody of the tally. I'm up. I'm two and one. Kenny's one and two.
[00:57:34] Speaker A: Worst run I ever had.
[00:57:36] Speaker B: So predictions for this week, Miami at Baltimore. So Baltimore looked good against a really bad jets team.
[00:57:45] Speaker A: Really bad.
[00:57:45] Speaker B: Really bad.
[00:57:47] Speaker A: And Miami looked good against a New England team that I'm not sure what to make of yet.
[00:57:52] Speaker B: I think they're overrated. But it is what it is.
[00:57:56] Speaker A: It's just one of those things, though, right?
Can you overrate Bill Belichick at any point?
[00:58:02] Speaker B: Because it's almost like back to the Mike Tomlin conversation. He's just a really good coach.
[00:58:05] Speaker A: It's almost like the Tom Brady thing, right? Like for years I hated Tom Brady because he was so good. And after seven Super Bowls I'm just like, I don't know.
[00:58:14] Speaker B: He just does things that we got to watch it all.
[00:58:16] Speaker A: He just does things that I can't explain. It doesn't make sense.
[00:58:20] Speaker B: But Baltimore did look pretty good against a really bad jets team. Lamar's betting on himself. It was reported this week that he turned down a $250,000,000 for five years extension with 135,000,000 guaranteed.
[00:58:34] Speaker A: Yeah, but that was 100 million less guaranteed than he wanted.
[00:58:37] Speaker B: That's true. A funny note on this, too. In his post game presser. They were asking him about the contract and he started to get into details and they asked him, they said, we heard you turned down a guaranteed contract. He said guarantees. I didn't turn down any guarantees. The rep for the Ravens came in and swept them away real fast before they could get into details.
[00:58:59] Speaker A: What are they waiting? Right? He's a Former NFL MVP of the league. He's young. They've built their whole offense around him. I know there's always going to be a concern with injury with him, but what else are they going to do?
Are you going to let him walk and start over with someone else?
[00:59:21] Speaker B: I mean, I won it.
I'm actually not a huge believer in Lamar long term, but he's already done it longer than I predicted he would. So at this point, who else are you going to get that's better? He's proven, like you said, he's a former MVP. He puts up stats they're just waiting for. Every time people tell him he can't pass, he goes and pops off for 450 yards.
[00:59:43] Speaker A: They're just going to wait for Archie Manning.
[00:59:46] Speaker B: That's a bad plan if you ask me. That's a bad plan. Good pedigree, though.
[00:59:52] Speaker A: Pedigree dog food.
[00:59:54] Speaker B: Yeah. So who do you got in Miami? Baltimore.
[00:59:58] Speaker A: Miami. Baltimore.
Look, I think Miami new coach Tua played pretty well.
[01:00:09] Speaker B: Tua Tago Lavo.
[01:00:11] Speaker A: I can't say his name.
[01:00:13] Speaker B: Nobody can.
[01:00:13] Speaker A: Tago Val.
[01:00:15] Speaker B: You should have heard him on the broadcast yesterday. It was my favorite part.
Every time they said his name, it was something different.
[01:00:22] Speaker A: Tyreek showed out, played pretty well in that offense yesterday.
[01:00:25] Speaker B: Well, you know, Tagovolu is more accurate than Patrick Mahomes, according to Tyreek.
[01:00:32] Speaker A: I think this is going to be one of the better games of the week and I'm really interested to see how it plays out.
I'm going to go Baltimore here as much as I don't want to. I do think Miami is much improved. I do think they're going to make some noise this year, but I think there's more cohesion in Baltimore. I think Lamar played really well in week one and I think that defense is probably better than Miami's defense at the end of the day. Baltimore.
[01:00:58] Speaker B: All right, well, for me, like we talked about, Baltimore looked good against a bad jets team. Lamar's betting on himself right now, but that jets team is bad. Their defense was trash.
[01:01:10] Speaker A: They were bad.
[01:01:11] Speaker B: And Miami defense, Miami's defense is much, much better. So I think Miami's defense is too much in this one. And I've got Miami.
[01:01:18] Speaker A: Sorry, Baltimore split again.
[01:01:21] Speaker B: It's going to get interesting quick.
[01:01:22] Speaker A: New England at.
[01:01:28] Speaker B: Know. I want to say it's interesting, but to me it's really not for me. Here's the deal. Pittsburgh did take out Cincinnati.
New England looked pretty defeated in week one against a pretty stout Miami defense. I mean, they didn't look good, but TJ Watt and Naji Harris just got hurt and they're definitely missing this game. So I think New England wins it pretty easily.
[01:01:55] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm with you.
I don't think Bill Belichick can afford to start Owen. Two. I think he really wanted that game in Miami because they've had so much difficulty in Miami over the last couple of years and they went down like a full week early. Usually they travel a day or two before the game.
They went down on like Tuesday and spent the entire week in Miami and still lost. So I have to imagine that that locker room is absolute hell.
So I have New England take losses.
[01:02:28] Speaker B: Like that under Bill Belichick and not bounce back because he's in there ripping every single one of you a new one. No.
[01:02:35] Speaker A: And I think it's the NFL, and I think we see week to week desperate teams just play harder. And I know it's week one, but.
[01:02:43] Speaker B: I'm telling you, that's the only league where every single game matters.
[01:02:47] Speaker A: And Bill Belichick knows that more than anyone.
[01:02:50] Speaker B: He does. So Bengals at Dallas.
What do you got?
[01:02:54] Speaker A: Did you watch that Sunday night game?
Man, Dallas looked bad.
[01:02:58] Speaker B: Real bad.
[01:02:59] Speaker A: Really, really bad.
[01:03:00] Speaker B: Real bad.
[01:03:02] Speaker A: Yeah, that Dallas team looked bad.
Missing some receivers. I don't know what happened to Zeke.
Ezekiel Elliott was. He does that sometimes Ohio State guy, one of those like, hey, one of your favorite players.
[01:03:18] Speaker B: Just because he's got a personality and he's fun to watch.
[01:03:22] Speaker A: Yeah, he's Zeke.
[01:03:23] Speaker B: You know, he jumped into a pot one time.
[01:03:25] Speaker A: He had that super cool helmet on. Yeah, I don't know what that was, but he looked like VR Trooper or Power Ranger.
[01:03:32] Speaker B: He jumped into the Salvation army pot.
[01:03:36] Speaker A: Yeah, it was great. But that was back when he was good because now he looks bad. Basically non existent father time has caught up with him. I don't know if he's just disiNterested. I can probably eat too much.
They were saying that in camp and the offseason that he came in, was focused and was working out a lot and was in great shape and all the stuff that he was fast, I didn't see it last night.
[01:03:57] Speaker B: He's really going to have to focus up now because Dak Prescott went down, too and needs thumb surgery.
[01:04:02] Speaker A: Yeah, he's going to be out a while, so I would guess that means Cooper Rush is your quarterback for a while. And Cooper Rush played well in the one game he's played in outside of last night.
But I think they are just. They're bad on offense, they're bad on defense. CD Lamb and Dalton Schultz are good players, but they're going to need more than those two guys to mount anything this year, and they just looked ugly last night. So I'm going.
Even though Joe Burrow turned the ball over five times and was handing out cherry pie turnovers like it was his.
[01:04:37] Speaker B: Job, you get a turnover and you get a turnover.
[01:04:40] Speaker A: I think the Bengals bounce back in week one.
[01:04:43] Speaker B: Week two?
[01:04:43] Speaker A: Week two?
[01:04:44] Speaker B: Week.
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I agree 100%. Joey B. Through four picks, he fumbled the ball twice, gave one over. The Bengals played poorly, but Dallas is garbage, man. And especially with that going out. I mean, that was their lone bright spot, right? They don't got them anymore. I think the Mangles winning a snoozer.
It might get ugly.
Who are we talking about for Dallas in week two?
It might get pretty ugly for onto the, onto the game jing of the, uh, the jets versus the Browns.
[01:05:29] Speaker A: Who you got?
[01:05:29] Speaker B: Who do I got?
[01:05:31] Speaker A: That's what I said. Do you need me to repeat it?
[01:05:34] Speaker B: Please.
[01:05:35] Speaker A: Who do you got?
[01:05:36] Speaker B: All right, so Miles Garrett and company continue to get pressure and sacks while manhandling the Jets L line in this one. That rookie left tackle is. He's going to have a long day. The running backs continue to dominate and do what they do, and the jets are also trash. So I've got the Browns winning easy 20, 413, and I'm being generous with that. 13 for the Jets.
[01:06:01] Speaker A: The jets aren't good.
[01:06:03] Speaker B: No, they are not.
[01:06:07] Speaker A: Look, I know it's the NFL, and I know week to week, anything can happen.
Certainly we're without our quarterback, and Jacoby didn't do a lot to instill confidence for this week. But I think that also rarely weeks come along where you're just clearly the better team.
Our running back room is better, our offensive line is better, our defensive line is better, our secondary is better. Our kicker is certainly better. Quarterback can be a wash, and I don't think it matters. I think this is the one week this year that the Browns can kind of count on a win. I think they win going away. I think this is. Don't tell them that. I think this is a proverbial blowout. I think the Browns win this game, 31 631 ten. I think that it's the one game that we all kind of go, okay, there's something maybe here, but I think it's just because the jets are so bad, I don't think it's going to be even a reflection of how good the Browns are. I think it's just the jets are bad.
[01:07:12] Speaker B: Yep. All right, so we've got the Miami Baltimore game split. We both got New England against Pittsburgh, we both got the Bengals against Dallas, and we both have the Browns against the Jets. So that'll do it for the week two preview. And before we get into the closing, let's go ahead and do one more quick ad. Read here. Got to make some money.
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All right, so for the land here.
[01:08:24] Speaker A: For the land.
[01:08:27] Speaker B: Let's take it around and we'll talk about some of the other Cleveland teams. The Guardians, still in first place, been playing much better.
All dubs this weekend, in case anyone.
[01:08:38] Speaker A: Was wondering, you played Minnesota, right?
[01:08:41] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know. Yeah.
Anyways, all dubs this weekend, Guardians went three and O. The Buckeyes won, and the Browns won as well.
[01:08:52] Speaker A: Oh, the Buckeyes. Now, this is a Cleveland podcast. We're doing college football.
Are we doing.
[01:08:57] Speaker B: Akron scores no.
[01:08:59] Speaker A: Toledo scores no. Kent State no. Bowling Green? No, just Ohio State.
[01:09:03] Speaker B: Okay, I have to throw them in there. We love the Buckeyes.
[01:09:06] Speaker A: I like the Buckeyes.
[01:09:07] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:09:07] Speaker A: I don't like the jets for the Cavs.
[01:09:10] Speaker B: Still got Donovan Mitchell.
[01:09:11] Speaker A: Still have them, baby.
[01:09:12] Speaker B: Still got them.
[01:09:13] Speaker A: Still there.
[01:09:13] Speaker B: Ready to compete.
[01:09:14] Speaker A: Getting ready for the preseason.
[01:09:15] Speaker B: Let's go. All right, let's close this thing out here. What to expect next week. What do we got for him, Kenny?
[01:09:22] Speaker A: We'll do the same thing next week. Jets, Browns recap, and then we will preview our Cleveland Ed Yinzer Pittsburgh matchup. Hopefully Pittsburgh gets beat up pretty good this week, and we can look forward to another blowout.
[01:09:38] Speaker B: We can all get on board with that.
[01:09:39] Speaker A: I'm in.
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