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It's time. Time for the Burning river sportscast. Pay attention. Listen close. The next few weeks of football might be the most important you'll ever see. At one in six, things have officially gotten ugly. Fans calling out fans, players calling out a city. It would seem there is a large desire for accountability amongst everyone except I, for the Cleveland Browns themselves. But rest assured, it's looming. As a culture, we've become accustomed to living in a microwave. We want it and we want it now. And while the NFL is trending that way, some organizations just move more slowly than others. But that doesn't mean there won't be consequences. Football this bad in a league where we see one and two year turnarounds regularly, believe me, the sheriff is coming. So open your eyes and close your mouths. Watch and listen. The players who want to be here, they're going to start to show you they want to be here. And the ones that don't simply won't listen to what the coaches and staff are saying. Read in between the lines. They're going to tell you everything you want to know. And as for our red meat, there will be plenty. But it won't come without collateral damage. So watch closely. Listen closer. The eve of deliverance is upon this football team. And if you thought it was ugly now, just wait. It's about to get much, much worse. We'll break it all down for you next on the burning river sportscast.
You have to be the world's biggest douche to be a Yankees fan.
[00:02:39] Speaker B: Yeah, you probably like it when men hit women, too.
[00:02:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:02:42] Speaker B: You can't cover somebody to save your life. And you're gonna sit here and tell the fans what they can and can't say.
[00:02:46] Speaker C: Did he do a dance after he said that?
Still throws a real nice ball. He hit some highlights thrown to George Pickens. He hit some highlights thrown to George Pickenshenhe.
[00:02:55] Speaker B: Bone loves Russell Wilson's balls.
[00:02:58] Speaker A: If Brandon Ayuk wasn't such a dick.
[00:03:00] Speaker B: He'D be in Cleveland. Anywhere in Cleveland.
[00:03:02] Speaker A: Butterfly effect.
[00:03:03] Speaker B: Yeah, he seems.
[00:03:05] Speaker C: When I was a kid, they were scary. I shouldn't have been watching them.
[00:03:09] Speaker A: Nick Nolte loses his absolute shit.
[00:03:12] Speaker C: Thanks for the ride, lady.
[00:03:13] Speaker D: We had a Steelers country banner that was there, and about a month into us owning the bar, somebody ripped it down. And we really don't know who, but somebody ripped it down, and they peed on it nice.
[00:03:27] Speaker B: And it was one of the worst feeling losses that I can remember. And the Cowboys game was seven weeks ago. The Giants game was five weeks ago. The Raiders game was four weeks ago. The Commanders game was three weeks ago. The Eagles game was two weeks ago. Ding, ding, ding.
[00:03:42] Speaker C: And I couldn't figure out how to turn the thing off.
[00:03:44] Speaker B: Like, good job, deadbeat dad cleaning up.
[00:03:46] Speaker C: Leaves took a dark turn.
[00:03:54] Speaker A: Welcome into the burning river sportscast, presented by the fine folks at Tappin Media. I'm Kenny Thunder, joined today by a pioneer in the world of foreskin prosthetics, the one and only red hot Ronnie jams on the board today. No bones about it. He's got skeletons in his closet. The big bone. Man bone. Let's drop the science for a moment and step into a little fiction. If you were stranded on a deserted island and could only have one drink for the rest of your life, what would it be? You have a magical cooler that perpetually generates cold, delicious. What?
[00:04:26] Speaker C: Bone chillin cold beer.
[00:04:30] Speaker A: Stays in character. I love it. Back to red hot. Where can our listeners find the dopest dope they ever heard on a podcast? The number one ranked football podcast and all the good pods, as well as the unofficial podcast of Cleveland brownsbackers everywhere.
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[00:05:31] Speaker A: Yeah, don't forget to get that shirt.
[00:05:33] Speaker B: Did you wear that for the game this week.
[00:05:34] Speaker C: Nice.
[00:05:35] Speaker A: I did nice.
[00:05:36] Speaker B: Nice. Bony, you got a new hat this week, too. Could you show that off? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Kids wonder. This is a white trim dad hat. It's completely white.
[00:05:44] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[00:05:44] Speaker B: With river on it, so it's pretty, pretty fantastic.
[00:05:48] Speaker A: That's our dog, river.
[00:05:49] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. River's our mascot, in case anyone didn't know. Sorry. I figured I'd describe this for the listeners at home.
[00:05:56] Speaker A: He tried to put it on over his headphones.
[00:05:57] Speaker C: Yeah, it didn't work out.
[00:05:58] Speaker B: It's a bad job out of you, but, yeah. On today's show, this is what you can look forward to. Dog of the week division roundup around the NFL hot three interview with the Brownsbackers group this week. The bowling, bowling green brownsbackers bowling for soup. King of the North. I may be in trouble here. Spoiler gassed up the week eight preview. An interview with none other than superfan brownstranaut and oh, so much more. So.
I don't know. Let's just do this.
Let's start with the burger news story of the week.
All right, so for the burning river news story of the week, our guardians had their season come to an end against the New York Yankees this past weekend. They lost to the Yankees four to one as far as games go, and unfortunately, ran into the team whose payroll is more than the rest of the american league teams combined.
[00:06:58] Speaker A: And then the playoffs.
[00:06:59] Speaker B: So, yeah, that made the playoffs. So real quick. Thank you for the Guardians for a fantastic season. This team's future is bright. A lot of good players on that team. A lot of guys that are going to be here for a while continue to improve that pitching. And I think they have good things coming, man.
[00:07:16] Speaker A: Just bizarre, though, the way that they were able to hit class A in the playoffs. I mean. I mean, regular season, no one could touch him.
[00:07:23] Speaker B: Start diving into conspiracy theories. There's all kinds of things about them stealing, potentially stealing signs. I mean, whatever.
[00:07:28] Speaker A: You almost have to be right.
[00:07:30] Speaker B: Well, and especially the fact that they weren't just making contact, they were crushing him.
[00:07:36] Speaker A: I mean, it was unhittable all year.
[00:07:38] Speaker B: Which actually kind of leads into what I wanted to talk about here, like, yes, thank you, guardians. This was an awesome season. We had a lot of fun watching you. But I wanted to talk more about the Yankees and just the fact that they're the worst all around.
They beat the Guardians, sure, or whatever, but they got the worst fans, they got the worst organization. They had the worst everything. And you're gonna say, oh, they win World Series. They do this, blah, blah, blah. Like, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking, the only reason you win is because you spend more money than anybody else. Like, you're not actually good.
[00:08:06] Speaker A: You just buy your team, bought and paid for every year.
[00:08:10] Speaker B: So it's just, it's just complete bullshit. I wanted to get your guys takes on.
[00:08:13] Speaker A: You just have to be one of the lowest, low lives of fans to root for the Yankees. I mean, you just have to absolutely root. Like, you probably root for the boys on the playground. Like, oh, yeah, took that kid's lunch money. Yeah, look at that poor kid.
[00:08:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:08:25] Speaker A: Like, you just love bullies. You have to be the world's biggest douche to be a Yankees fan.
[00:08:30] Speaker B: Yeah. You probably like it when men hit women, too.
[00:08:32] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, you have to. That's the mentality of, like, we can, we have the biggest, strongest, fastest everybody, and you don't. Because we can pay for them and you can't.
[00:08:40] Speaker B: Yeah, there's a bunch of douche canoes.
[00:08:43] Speaker A: Like, you just really have to be just a, just an ugly type of person to get joy out of that.
[00:08:49] Speaker B: Well, especially, like, the fans that are, like, beating their chests, like, yeah, I'm a Yankees. Good job, buddy. You spent twice. Twice. That was, that was generous. You spent 40 times as much as the team that you beat in the playoffs. Good job.
[00:09:04] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, in fact, like, they haven't been to the World Series, I think, since 2009. Like, what an embarrassment. What an absolute embarrassment of a franchise that you spend that amount of money on your team each year and it took you 14 years, 15 years to get back. Like, you're just absolutely max.
[00:09:18] Speaker B: It should take you like, four.
[00:09:20] Speaker A: You should be there every other year. I mean, with what they spend, you get the best players of the entire major league every year coming to your team.
[00:09:28] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:09:29] Speaker A: It's just, just, it's annoying.
[00:09:31] Speaker B: You know what I say?
[00:09:32] Speaker A: Baseball needs a salary cap.
[00:09:33] Speaker B: It does need a salary cap. That. I mean, that's a good point. Let's just, let's go there for just a minute here. I know we could talk all day about it, but let's go. Let's go there for just a minute. Why is it fair that a team can, one team that makes a playoff can spend the rest of the more than the rest of the teams that made the playoffs in that league combined?
[00:09:48] Speaker A: It just makes baseball unwatchable.
[00:09:50] Speaker B: And it's not just them, like, on the opposite side, like the Dodgers over there that are just, they literally went and got 2200 or whatever $2 billion players in the offseason.
[00:10:01] Speaker A: Like, yeah, I mean, what's Shohei's contract worth? $700 million?
[00:10:05] Speaker B: Yeah, it's insane.
[00:10:08] Speaker A: That.
[00:10:09] Speaker C: Unbelievable.
[00:10:10] Speaker A: What, do you even comprehend it? No. And yeah, I mean, he's a perfect.
[00:10:15] Speaker B: Example because he makes more than the Guardians entire roster combined, right?
[00:10:19] Speaker A: Yeah. Every year.
[00:10:21] Speaker B: That's just one player on your nine man baseball team. And that's just the starters.
[00:10:25] Speaker A: Like, there's also, it's just trash every way you look at it. And I know, like, the shitty thing is, is the players union is usually the hang up in terms of, like, salary cap conversations because the best players don't want to have their salaries restricted. But guys, like, it's about the sport. Like, I'm sure the NFL players, I'm sure Patrick Mahomes would love to make a billion dollars. I'm sure all these guys would. But, like, when you lose parody in your game, no one wants to watch.
[00:10:51] Speaker B: Like, there's a reason the NFL is the highest rated thing on tv ever.
[00:10:54] Speaker A: Yeah. And it continues to. There's a reason why NBA ratings continue to climb and NHL ratings continue to climb and baseball's up, what, 1% year over year. Like, you're trash.
[00:11:04] Speaker B: Yeah. You know what I said? The Yankees and all the Yankees fans.
[00:11:08] Speaker A: F them f theme. And with that, Yankees fans are the worst.
[00:11:13] Speaker B: With that, let me remind everybody to call the burning river sports guys that they got live.
Don't forget to call and leave your hot takes on the hot take hotline. Remember, these are hot takes. We want hot takes. We want hot takes.
[00:11:23] Speaker C: We want hot takes.
[00:11:24] Speaker B: We want hot takes.
[00:11:24] Speaker A: I mean, if you ain't got hot takes, now there's a problem.
[00:11:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. We could also use some hotcakes.
[00:11:29] Speaker A: Ah, I like hotcakes.
[00:11:30] Speaker B: Ooh, hot.
[00:11:30] Speaker C: Like molten lava cake.
[00:11:32] Speaker B: I was thinking I was gonna pancakes.
[00:11:36] Speaker A: I'm speaking my language, my love language.
[00:11:38] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, I like that. Yeah.
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[00:11:44] Speaker C: 0803-3022-7808-0330 two 2780 80.
[00:11:49] Speaker B: Call now. Operators are not steering. Listen, please call us. We want to put your takes on the air. Like, I don't, I can't stress this.
[00:11:56] Speaker A: We just want to hear from fans.
[00:11:58] Speaker B: We had a call a couple weeks ago and it was fantastic to talk about that. Cause that guy was drunk after a game and was pissed off and he called in and let us know that.
[00:12:05] Speaker A: But he was every one of us.
[00:12:07] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
[00:12:08] Speaker A: It's like, that's what we want.
[00:12:10] Speaker B: That could be you, but you playing.
[00:12:11] Speaker A: That could be you, it could be us. But you playing.
[00:12:15] Speaker B: Yeah, but, yeah. If you're looking for the weekly recap, the week seven recap, you're looking in the wrong place.
[00:12:23] Speaker A: Looking for love in all the wrong places.
[00:12:25] Speaker B: Yeah. We now do live shows every Sunday night after the game. And this past week was no different. So if you're looking for that week seven recap, then go back into whichever podcast platform you are listening or watching on and find our week seven recap.
[00:12:39] Speaker A: This week was a little different. There was a lot of emotion this week.
[00:12:42] Speaker B: There was. I just mean, like, it was no different as far as like, oh, scheduling. Scheduling.
[00:12:47] Speaker A: Sure.
[00:12:47] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:12:48] Speaker A: Fair enough.
[00:12:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:12:48] Speaker A: You want to piece all the action?
[00:12:49] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely.
So, yeah, check it out. Week seven recap is on there anywhere that you get your podcasts. And then if you want the video version, go to YouTube, Facebook or X, and that'll take us to the burning river sportscast dog of the week. Who is awesome.
[00:13:09] Speaker A: Doesn't matter, man.
[00:13:10] Speaker B: You gotta play tough people in the national football league.
[00:13:13] Speaker A: You gotta. We gotta be ready and we gotta.
[00:13:15] Speaker B: Be the dogs that we are every.
[00:13:17] Speaker A: Time we step on there on Sunday and be ready to attack and don't stop until we're in that locker room.
[00:13:26] Speaker B: That's making the show, isn't it?
Oh, man.
Listen, guys, after the fan vote that was conducted today on our socials. That's right. We now leave it up to our fans, our listeners, to pick the dog of the week. We wanted this to be more interactive.
[00:13:45] Speaker A: We love the fans.
[00:13:46] Speaker B: Yeah, we love the fans. We could pick Dog of the week every week, but where's the fun in that?
[00:13:49] Speaker A: Not fun.
[00:13:50] Speaker B: Not fun.
[00:13:50] Speaker A: More fun for you.
[00:13:52] Speaker B: So after the fan vote that was conducted on our social media today, we do have a winner for Dog of the week. The nominees this week, Kenny, you nominated Nick Chubb.
[00:14:02] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:14:02] Speaker B: In his return.
[00:14:03] Speaker A: Glorious return.
[00:14:04] Speaker B: He did score touchdowns as well.
[00:14:05] Speaker A: Glorious reappearing of Nick Chubb deserved.
[00:14:08] Speaker B: I nominated Cedric Tillman. And bone nominated David Najoku. So this week's burning river sports cast, dog of the week is Nick Chubb.
[00:14:21] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[00:14:22] Speaker B: Yeah, that's right. In his return. Not the biggest stat line we've seen from Nick Chubb. And his yards per carry was definitely lower than what we're used to. But he got in the end zone, got meaningful touches. He got meaningful touches. He got in the end zone. His total was eleven rushes for 22 yards, one catch for ten yards and one touchdown. And I'll tell you again, I was at the game. Absolutely erupted when he got his touchdown, like, for, for what seems like an entire quarter by that point, everybody just, anytime we got anywhere close, just start a chanting chubb.
[00:14:52] Speaker A: Yeah, I think the, the important thing, too, is we had touched on this during the recap last night, which is not only the stat line, but to see him out running the full offense, running pass pro, making blocks on pass pro, you know, the things that don't show up in the stat sheet. You know, he, he was still doing those things which we all know and love about Nick Chubb.
[00:15:11] Speaker B: Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, yeah, the, the pass block where he. There was a broken play and he just laid out, laid the dude out was phenomenal. So, yeah, hopefully he continues to, to kind of ramp things up, get back to the Nick Chubb that we all know and love. But it was just, it was fantastic seeing him on the field.
[00:15:29] Speaker A: Love Nick Chubb.
I'll say it again that, you know, Cleveland does not deserve Nick Chubb. Just that, that classy of a guy.
[00:15:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:15:39] Speaker A: We are incredibly fortunate to have him.
[00:15:41] Speaker B: Nobody deserves him.
[00:15:42] Speaker A: Nobody deserves Nick Chubb. Yeah, that's right.
[00:15:44] Speaker B: But we've got him. All right. And so in other browns news here, multiple players on the trade block right now. I mean, obviously, the season's incomplete, succumbing. Yeah, it's. We're spiraling and we're spiraling hard.
[00:15:57] Speaker A: Death spiral. So, top gun, when you start going.
[00:16:00] Speaker B: In circles, that's not good.
[00:16:01] Speaker A: Not good.
[00:16:02] Speaker B: So multiple players on the trade block. There's rumors about Miles Garrett. There's rumors about Zidarius Smith. There's rumors about Jerry Judy. It seems like no one is safe.
There's rumors about Denzel Ward. So, guys, what are your thoughts here? Just who do you think, just off the top of your head, I want you to give me somebody that you think is probably going to be gone before the end of the year.
[00:16:25] Speaker A: Well, I'm going to go with two on your list, I think.
[00:16:27] Speaker B: No, just one. Cause we all got to give one.
[00:16:29] Speaker A: Okay. Zidarius, I think, is an easy one to go.
[00:16:32] Speaker B: True. I mean, they started talking about the Lions this week, and he was like, yeah, I'd like to play for the Lions.
[00:16:36] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:16:37] Speaker C: I was honestly surprised he was back on our team this year.
[00:16:40] Speaker B: True.
[00:16:41] Speaker A: The Lions need to pass rusher with a nutrient going down.
[00:16:43] Speaker B: We need draft capital because our season.
[00:16:46] Speaker A: Shot anyways, honestly, I wouldn't, I'm not, I'm not to pick home. I'm only on the pick one. But I wouldn't say I wouldn't count miles out of that discussion to go to Detroit.
[00:16:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Especially if somebody's willing to give us a couple first round picks for him. I think he's probably gone. I mean, that'll be mine. I'm going to take that. Cause that's what I was going to go with anyways. If you get two first round picks out of Miles Garrett, you trade him tomorrow.
[00:17:06] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:07] Speaker B: I love Miles Garrett. I don't want them to trade him. I'm not saying that at all.
[00:17:11] Speaker A: But we love all these guys. We're, we're fans of Denzel ward of Miles Garrett, of, of all these guys on the team. The fact is you're one in six.
[00:17:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:17:21] Speaker A: And you're headed nowhere. No, there's no. You can't run this back again, specifically with Miles.
[00:17:28] Speaker B: You talk about recouping draft capital, like, immediately.
[00:17:32] Speaker A: Well, that's the thing.
[00:17:33] Speaker B: I think somebody out there is desperate enough and has the assets to be able to give you two first round picks for him.
[00:17:40] Speaker A: You're not going to rebuild this team trading guys like Juan Thornhill and Greg Newsome.
[00:17:44] Speaker B: No.
[00:17:45] Speaker A: You're just not going to get the capital back.
[00:17:46] Speaker B: Greg Newsome is another one.
Just to point out that was your player to watch from last.
[00:17:53] Speaker C: Will he get burnt?
[00:17:54] Speaker B: And you said he needs to cover somebody. Well, he didn't cover, so. And then again.
[00:18:01] Speaker A: Yeah, ugly again.
[00:18:02] Speaker B: And then after the game, for him to like, I get the players all having Deshaun's back. I'm not going to get back into that too far. But Greg Newsome specifically rubbed me the wrong way because I'm like, you can't cover somebody to save your life and you're going to sit here and tell the fans what they can and can't say.
[00:18:17] Speaker C: Did he do a dance after he said that?
[00:18:21] Speaker B: I don't know. He's got the best choreographed dances. That's the only thing I'm going to miss.
[00:18:24] Speaker A: Look, I'm just never a fan of players calling out fans in general. I think it's a bad look. You're the, you're the professional. You're getting paid to do that. You can have your guys back without talking down to fans.
You can say, look, we're praying for him to get better. This was a huge loss for us. We feel really bad about it. It was awful. Like, there's a lot of things you can say. It's a bad look anytime fans are coming at players, period, it doesn't matter what the circumstances. It's a bad look.
[00:18:52] Speaker B: Absolutely. And then bone. Who's somebody that you think is going to be gone.
[00:18:57] Speaker C: I don't know if, like, Jerry Judy's in motion on the sideline this weekend where he was, like, throwing his helmet, which I kind of thought it was, like, rightfully so. Like, he wasn't targeted to the fourth quarter, but, I mean, we just got him. But I'm like, if somebody like the Chiefs comes a calling, then, you know, wide receiver, needy team that's going to look at another Super bowl run or something like that. I don't know what you get for Jerry Judy. Could you get a third rounder for him? I don't, I don't know, but I think so. I don't know.
[00:19:23] Speaker B: We haven't thrown the ball.
[00:19:24] Speaker C: I feel like, I feel like emotionally he's still involved in the team. I don't think he's been an issue. But is like, will that progress? Like, his emotions on the sideline? Is he going to be, you know, upset and is he going to be kind of.
[00:19:37] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, I just look at it as, like, I just, I think that it's going to be, it's all capital.
[00:19:43] Speaker B: Right.
[00:19:43] Speaker A: So, like, what do we try to get you? Do you want a six round pick or something? Like, they can get a fourth or a fifth back?
[00:19:47] Speaker C: Okay. Yeah, I was way off with the third. I didn't remember what we got for him.
[00:19:50] Speaker A: But, um. So, and look, I mean, it pains me to say that somebody like Nick Chubb could be like, if you're thinking about a rebuild, are you rebuilding with a guy that's all coming off his second major knee surgery in almost third?
[00:20:03] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, I don't agree with you.
[00:20:05] Speaker A: I want Nick Chubb to retire brown, but I'm just being realistic. Like, if you could get something back for Nick Chubb, I'm a second rounder at this point. Like, for a team that is looking at Nick Chubb for the next one to two years, thinking this could help me win a Super Bowl.
[00:20:18] Speaker B: I mean, I don't disagree with you and the entire thing that you just said, I would love Nick Chubb to retire a brown. That's my hope. But I just, just, I don't know. I don't know. I agree. It's, it makes sense real quick.
[00:20:33] Speaker C: Like, from an Andrew Berry perspective, are you like, let's get all this trap capsule and let Andrew Berry make these picks again?
[00:20:39] Speaker B: No, Andrew Barry.
[00:20:41] Speaker A: Well, that's what I'm saying.
[00:20:42] Speaker B: He misses all the time.
[00:20:43] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:20:43] Speaker A: That's what makes this quarterback conversation. And then we're going to probably talk about at some point here. But this quarterback conversation really interesting over the next few weeks, because if this team goes one in 16, Andrew Barry and Kevin Stefanski aren't here next year. So all this draft capital they'd be amassing isn't going to be theirs to play with. With.
[00:20:58] Speaker B: You said we'll go there event. Let's go there now. So that my next thing here was going to be, obviously, the news confirmed Deshaun Watson ruptured his achilles is done for the season, potentially most of next year.
And so his time as a Cleveland Brown is potentially over. But on top of that, we won't go there yet. We'll discuss the entire, all of that.
[00:21:22] Speaker A: I mean, he's got a long road ahead of him.
[00:21:24] Speaker B: What I want to talk about right now is, is where do the Browns go? Do they go to. Do they, do they go with Jameis Winston the rest of the season who has some experience, who has proven that he could be a gunslinger and put up a lot of yards and, you know, get your offense rolling, or do you go DTR to see what you have?
[00:21:41] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, they got cute last week with the demotion from second string to third string with Jamis, but if these guys want any chance of sticking around next year, I mean, again, unless they have this back pocket from Haslam, that said, we're going to play Deshawn no matter what. I don't care if we lose every game. I'm guaranteeing your jobs next year, which, again, I think goes out the window now. Deshawn's gone. And I think if you don't play Jamis and try to win some games, if you don't win six games this year and make it respectable, I don't see any reason why we'd have you back. If you, if you win two, three games this year, there's, there's no chance because every year we watch teams like, like the commanders this year that were asked last year. You turned around in one season, Houston the year before. They were asked the year before, and you bring in D'Amico, Ryan's and those guys, and, and they made the Deshaun Watson move. And also, they have a new team. You go from worst to first overnight there. There's no way that these guys can afford to keep losing games. I know they want to see what they have in DTR, and I agree. I want to see what you have in DTR, too, but I don't think it's time for some point.
[00:22:44] Speaker B: You got to start coaching.
[00:22:46] Speaker C: He's a fifth round draft pick, too. You know what I'm saying?
[00:22:48] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. So, I mean, unless they. So they have in the back of their minds whether or not they think DTR can be a franchise quarterback or not, as fans, we want to see it, and I'm sure they want to see something as well, but I just think they have to go Jamis first. Cause you got to try to win games now. You got to try and, and bring this thing to a respectable number before you get the bye week.
[00:23:08] Speaker B: And I'll say this, I actually am a huge fan of DTR. I think the kid's got a lot of grit. I think he shows week in and week out when he gets in the game that he plays hard for this team. He wants to be good. He has a fairly good grasp of the offense as a whole. But at the end of the day, from what I've seen so far, I don't see a franchise quarterback. So I'm.
[00:23:28] Speaker A: Sean Kaiser wanted to be a good quarterback, right?
[00:23:30] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, that's a pretty good example, actually. Like, it's. He tried real hard. Some guys aren't meant to be franchise.
[00:23:37] Speaker A: Quarterbacks, and I. Cody Kessler wanted to be a good.
[00:23:40] Speaker B: Yeah, I just, I really don't know that DTR has that ability in him. As athletic as he is, as smart as he is. Like, I just don't know that it's there.
[00:23:49] Speaker A: He's certainly got some athleticism. I think the big question is, like, what are his, like, does he have the ball skills? Does he have the.
I think he's tough. I think he has the grit to stand pocket and throw the ball. Can he make an accurate throw, is the question.
[00:24:02] Speaker B: Well, here's, here's the other thing. On the, on the other side of the argument with, with the other quarterback is you got Jameis Winston sitting there, and I would actually argue that Jameis is good. Good enough to be a franchise quarter. Sure.
[00:24:12] Speaker A: He's been one.
[00:24:13] Speaker B: And people will say, you're crazy. He's been traded from two different teams. Whatever.
To me, he's proven that he can throw for a lot of yards. He can help an offense. Almost every offense that he had the chance to lead for, like, the entirety of a season was in the top ten in, like, every passing category. They score a lot of points. So you're putting your team at least in a position to win. Whether or not they capitalize on everything and do it is another story.
[00:24:39] Speaker A: And, and Jamus threw a lot of interceptions, but a lot of those interceptions over his career came in Tampa Bay early on. Yeah, I mean, I think, I think one year he had something like 30 touchdowns on 30 picks in the same year.
[00:24:50] Speaker B: The only person ever to do it.
[00:24:52] Speaker A: So, like, when you look at his career numbers and you go, he likes to throw picks. Like, yeah, a lot of those were like, he's, he's older now. He's a veteran guy.
[00:24:58] Speaker B: Well, and I just got talent. I go back to Joe, Joe Flacco last year. Like we've, the Browns have proven that if you have a stout defense, you can get away with throwing picks sometimes because you have a good defense that'll help you out when it happens. So it's like if you build a good defense and you have a Jameis Winston running the ship, like, okay, you're going to throw some interceptions, but the defense is going to pick me up and I'm going to come back there and I'm going to throw for 300 yards a game or 2275 a game and give you guys a shot to win.
[00:25:26] Speaker A: And what was missing from this offense was any semblance of risk. Right. It was, everything was. So the thing was, is even on the most conservative circumstances, DeShawn couldn't make those throws.
[00:25:36] Speaker B: Nope.
[00:25:37] Speaker A: I'm not going to dog on Deshaun. He's done. He's probably won't play down to brown, but, like, like, that's what this offense needs is somebody that can let loose, rip the ball down the field. We saw with Joe Flacco last year, like vertical passing and you have the personnel to do it. You compliment with a solid, you know, zone, zone run scheme, and this offense can go right back to being pretty good. Yeah, but, yeah, again, I just think, look, I. Everybody's going to want to see DTR. I want to know before you head into the draft whether or not he's somebody that you can. Can you can, can he be a bridge quarterback? I. Maybe. Maybe he's good enough to be a bridge, but I, to your point, like, I would argue you have a guy on the, on the roster right now that you could sign for another year or two and be that bridge.
[00:26:16] Speaker B: And how old is James Winston? James Winston, he's 29 or 30.
[00:26:20] Speaker A: 30 or 31.
[00:26:21] Speaker B: I mean, like, right there. Right around 30.
[00:26:23] Speaker A: He's, he's got good football ahead of him.
[00:26:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:26:26] Speaker A: And, and maybe he can be in between a bridge and a franchise quarterback. And, and that's good enough for right now.
[00:26:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:26:33] Speaker A: Cause what you had was the worst quarterback play in the league.
[00:26:36] Speaker B: Listen, I understand wanting high draft picks and everything else and the allure of tanking and getting the highest pick possible. But I just want to win games, and because I want to win games, I want them to play Jamis the rest of the season.
[00:26:50] Speaker A: Well. And again, I would argue that, like, either one of these guys then becomes a bridge, because even if you get a top pick in a draft and you come away with Cam Ward or Quinn Ewers or one of these guys, I don't see any sense in starting those guys right now as you're rebuilding this team. Let's get it. Let's bring in some more picks next year and bring us some more free agents and things and reshake the deck here at head coach and GM and let's see what you got. You don't have to throw Quinn Ewers out there day one and ruin the kid.
[00:27:18] Speaker B: Yeah. Bone, if you were running the team, who'd be starting a quarterback?
[00:27:21] Speaker C: I want to see Jamis. I would rather watch some entertaining football this year. And I think DTR, I don't know if he saw the field that well. You know, he doesn't, that was my, he doesn't step up in his pocket. He was running around going backwards, panicking. And I, I feel like the guys you see, like, even the rookies who come in who almost settled down into the league, you can almost tell almost like right away you're like this kid or Jalen.
[00:27:46] Speaker B: Jalen Darcy, he doesn't get, he doesn't.
[00:27:48] Speaker C: Get razzled, even though he may have a bad game. Even Justin Fields, I was like, he never looks like he gets razzled. Like, he's not the best quarterback, I feel like, but he's an NFL quarterback. CJ Stroud games.
[00:27:59] Speaker B: That was like the best thing about CJ Stroud, entire rookie years. He never got overwhelmed with the game. He just was like, right. It is what it is.
[00:28:06] Speaker C: I feel you can kind of just see players who get overwhelmed and it's.
[00:28:09] Speaker B: I think he's one of them.
[00:28:10] Speaker C: You get exploited in the NFL pretty quickly if you're one of those guys.
[00:28:13] Speaker A: Yeah. I also think, though, that I don't, you know, I think that if the game plan was a DTR game plan and, and he is athletic. He's athletic as hell. I mean, if they were to run more of a Lamar Jackson style offense this week and start him and say, hey, you're going to get ten to 15 carries of just you running the ball, you know, that's an offense. Maybe he can be really successful one.
[00:28:36] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. Last, last thing on this whole situation. QB situation is if you do go with DTR, in my opinion, if he looks God awful for a few games straight, you just go to Jamis, you say, that's fine, we're going to move on and we're going to start another quarterback. And then we're up to like, what, 35 on the, on the jersey.
[00:28:55] Speaker C: Either one gets you more excited to watch Brown's game this weekend.
[00:28:58] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, I think the other component, too is do you look to see who's out there?
[00:29:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:29:05] Speaker A: A guy like Ryan Tannehill has said he doesn't want to come back unless he's playing to be the, unless he's going to be the starter. Could Ryan Tannehill be that guy that comes in and is your Joe Flacco from last year fair?
[00:29:14] Speaker B: Yep. All right, so that'll take us to the division roundup.
Okay, so this week for the division roundup, we'll start with Baltimore. They're currently playing on Monday night. They, as we're recording, they are winning 14 to ten.
So they have a lead right now. But either way, we'll add that game to the standings next week when we do the division roundup. Onto Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh beat the jets this week.
[00:29:46] Speaker A: Russell will tussle.
[00:29:47] Speaker B: Russell was back.
[00:29:48] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, he's back, man.
[00:29:49] Speaker A: Steelers offense didn't miss a beat with, with Russell in the, in the lineup.
[00:29:53] Speaker B: What was the final score of that game?
[00:29:56] Speaker A: 37 to 15.
[00:29:59] Speaker B: Oh, they scored that many points. I didn't think Russell Wilson had it in him.
[00:30:02] Speaker A: 30.
[00:30:02] Speaker C: 415. 37. Yeah.
[00:30:04] Speaker B: Listen, bone, you're going to find out real quick that Russell's washed. And by the end of the season. Nonsense.
They'll be back. They'll be back to Justin Fields starting.
[00:30:13] Speaker C: You guys are laughing at him. Last night. You're like, look, Russell is like one for nine right now. And then we woke up this morning and what happened?
[00:30:19] Speaker B: That's, that's fair. That's fair.
[00:30:21] Speaker A: 30 37 to 15. Russell was 16 at 29 264 and two touchdowns.
[00:30:25] Speaker B: So that's a good day.
[00:30:27] Speaker A: Not bad.
[00:30:27] Speaker B: It's better than anything we've gotten this year.
[00:30:29] Speaker A: It's way better.
[00:30:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:31] Speaker C: Still throws a real nice, nice ball. Hit some highlights there. Highlights thrown to George Pickens.
[00:30:37] Speaker B: Bone loves Russell Wilson's balls.
[00:30:40] Speaker A: They did point that out in the broadcast last night was, that was kind of the one thing that you don't get with Justin Fields is that Justin Fields has a strong arm and is athletic in the pocket. But Russell throws just such a nice touch pass and can throw it all over the field and, you know, as DB is like, that was the. That was the one rule that you live by, is like, it doesn't matter how good of defense you play. Good pass, perfect route, perfect pass, perfect. Like, that beats good defense, that beats.
[00:31:11] Speaker B: Perfect coverage every time. Every time.
[00:31:13] Speaker A: And Russell can still thread the needle that way.
[00:31:15] Speaker B: Yeah, that's fair. I think he's washed.
But we were all right with this pick, so that's plus one for all of us. And then Cleveland obviously took another ugly. This time against the Bengals.
[00:31:28] Speaker A: Who picked them to win?
[00:31:29] Speaker B: I did. Idiot. I know it feels bad. I said they'd get over 20. They didn't. No, they didn't know. They didn't.
[00:31:37] Speaker A: They didn't even get the normal 16.
[00:31:38] Speaker B: No, they didn't. So I was wrong. You were both right. And so for the AFC north standings right now, before Baltimore finishes their game, Pittsburgh is on top at five and two. Baltimore is at four and two.
Cincinnati in third place at three and four. And Cleveland is in the basement still at one and six.
[00:31:59] Speaker C: Man, it feels bad.
[00:32:00] Speaker B: And so the current king of the north standings, which we'll get into more later, but we'll talk about him a little bit. Right now, bone is at 14 and eleven.
[00:32:08] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[00:32:09] Speaker B: Kenny and I are both at twelve and 13, but Kenny technically holds the lead over me. Both tiebreakers, because he has the tiebreaker. The tiebreaker for anybody listening at home, home. Number one tiebreaker is the number of your record and Browns games picked. Currently. Kenny, I believe, is four and three. And I'm three and four. And then the second.
The second tiebreaker is the number of correct scores you picked on the season. And Kenny has won. So.
[00:32:38] Speaker A: For Brown's games.
[00:32:39] Speaker B: For Brown's games. And so even though we both have the same record, I am. I am in last place.
[00:32:44] Speaker A: You are officially the asshole of the north.
[00:32:47] Speaker B: That feels bad.
[00:32:48] Speaker A: Feels real good.
[00:32:50] Speaker B: But with that, let's go ahead and get into around the NFL.
All right. So this week and around the NFL, we make these trips quick. Now, they used to be. We used to talk about the entire NFL and we figured you guys probably don't want.
[00:33:15] Speaker A: They're like one tank trips.
[00:33:16] Speaker B: Yeah. Um, so first off, Aaron Rodgers loses again.
[00:33:20] Speaker A: Legits are dumpster fire.
[00:33:21] Speaker B: Yeah, that. I mean, just as far as expectations versus reality, they're the only ones that are right there with the Browns.
[00:33:28] Speaker A: I never thought they were going to be good, though.
[00:33:30] Speaker B: Everybody else did, though, even with Aaron. Roger and I agree with you. We've actually talked about it on the show like none of us thought they were going to be great. Like they were going to be. I didn't even think they were going to be playoff contenders.
[00:33:39] Speaker A: I mean, Bruce hall is good, Garrett Wilson's good, but I just like the rest of that team.
[00:33:46] Speaker B: Garrett Wilson's on the trade block, apparently now that they've got Devontae Adams and.
[00:33:50] Speaker A: Aaron Rodgers is 100 years old. Like.
[00:33:53] Speaker B: Yeah. And he's not Aaron Rodgers of all. Like, that we. That we came to love and.
[00:33:58] Speaker A: Yeah, I feel like. Like he's streaky Aaron Rodgers. He's good, like, half the time and.
[00:34:02] Speaker B: It'S because it's still there, but your body can't move like it used to, so sometimes you just can't get it done.
[00:34:06] Speaker A: I'm watching him miss easy throws that he. That he has made a thousand times in his life, you know, but, like, like, in a game scenario, all of a sudden he's not able to make them. So dumpster fire for his receivers are dropping balls, so.
And when your defense gives up 37 points to Russell Wilson, that's not good.
[00:34:25] Speaker B: Yeah. And then next up here, Brandon Iuk. Obviously, Deshawn tore his, ruptured his achilles this week. Brandon Ayuk had a nasty ACL tear this week as well. And if you watch the replay, I mean, this was Nick Chubb esque, I.
[00:34:41] Speaker A: Which doesn't bend that way.
[00:34:43] Speaker B: Yeah. I go back to. I don't think the Nick Chubb hit was dirty at all, and I don't think this one was dirty. A lot of people were saying it was dirty hit because he was. Somebody hadn't had him engaged and was taking him down and somebody else came in and hit his leg. And it's like, until they're on the ground, you do whatever you can to get them down.
[00:34:59] Speaker A: I mean, they're going to outlaw gang tackling. Now.
[00:35:01] Speaker B: If somebody's touching one person's allowed the.
[00:35:03] Speaker A: Tackle, only one person's allowed to engage off a defender.
[00:35:06] Speaker B: Right. So I just kind of figured this was a normal football player is the way that I saw it.
[00:35:11] Speaker A: I was shocked to see anybody call this dirty, but it was still gross. This is today's NFL. You can't hit him anywhere else but low.
[00:35:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:17] Speaker A: So even though he's engaged with the defender, you're still trying to take him down and what are you left with?
[00:35:22] Speaker B: Knees.
[00:35:22] Speaker A: Knees.
[00:35:23] Speaker B: Knees and lower knees and lower.
[00:35:24] Speaker A: I will say this. If Brandon Ayuk wasn't such a dick.
[00:35:28] Speaker B: He'D be in Cleveland. He went, Cleveland.
[00:35:30] Speaker A: Butterfly effect.
[00:35:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
Maybe. Maybe Deshawn wouldn't have ruptured his achilles.
[00:35:35] Speaker A: But he was like, I don't want.
[00:35:36] Speaker B: To go to Cleveland.
[00:35:36] Speaker A: Fuck you, Brianna. You guys are torn ACL field.
[00:35:39] Speaker C: That's what happens.
[00:35:40] Speaker A: Enjoy it.
[00:35:40] Speaker C: Strong words for apparently it happens here, though, too.
[00:35:44] Speaker B: Kenny thunder shows no mercy.
But with that maintain.
[00:35:48] Speaker A: If we hadn't traded Baker Mayfield, Deshaun Watson wasn't here, Nick Chubb wouldn't have torn his leg in half. Butterfly effect.
Thanks.
[00:35:56] Speaker B: Thank you, Andrew Bear. Another reason why he might be gone after this season. Yeah, but that'll do it for the trip around the NFL. Let's go ahead and get into our hot three.
All right, boys, so it is spooky season.
Spooky season. As you kind of played on during your opening of this week's show.
[00:36:26] Speaker A: Oh, no, that was just all about the Browns.
[00:36:28] Speaker B: Oh, oh, oh.
[00:36:30] Speaker A: Next week will be my spooky season intro.
[00:36:32] Speaker B: Yeah, but last week we did Halloween candy. I wanted to continue on the trend. Right? This week we're gonna do Halloween movies. And by Halloween movie, that could be horror.
[00:36:43] Speaker A: Any horror genre movie.
[00:36:44] Speaker B: Well, I know it could be horror. It could be comedies. Just movies that you watch around Halloween time. So typically, mostly, yes, horror movies, but it could be, like, beetlejuice, for example. Not scary, but funny. But it's a Halloween movie.
[00:36:56] Speaker A: Fair enough.
[00:36:56] Speaker B: You get. I'm saying. Yeah, yeah.
[00:36:59] Speaker A: Tim Burton's.
[00:37:00] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nightmare before Christmas, those types of things. Yeah.
So with that, who started last week? Do we remember?
[00:37:07] Speaker C: I don't remember.
[00:37:08] Speaker B: I don't care.
[00:37:09] Speaker A: You started last week.
[00:37:10] Speaker B: Oh, did I? Yeah. That was. What a nice fellow I am. Bone, you're gonna start this week.
[00:37:14] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:37:15] Speaker B: All right, what do you got?
[00:37:16] Speaker C: All right, so, man, I have, like, seven list here, so I'm gonna list three, right?
[00:37:20] Speaker B: Yeah, it's only a hot three. We don't do the hot seven.
[00:37:23] Speaker C: I just throw a few out there, you know? I'm like, yeah, cube from honorable mention.
[00:37:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:37:27] Speaker C: You know? Okay, so number three, I'm gonna go creep show.
I don't know if any of it. This is, like, from the eighties, but when I was a kid, I. The creepy, talking about tales of tales.
[00:37:39] Speaker B: From the crypt show. Or else I might have put on.
[00:37:42] Speaker C: My list, like, based on a comic, kind of like a comic book, I guess. Some scary comic book from the past. I was, like, looking it up because I always get tales of the crypt and creepshow mixed together. Like, I think I always thought they were the same thing, but Creepshow is actually kind of based roughly on comic books, too, but it was actually a movie. Creepshow was a series of shows or something like that, but it's just something.
[00:38:02] Speaker B: Tales from the crypt was a series of shows. You got it mixed up again.
[00:38:04] Speaker C: Did I?
[00:38:05] Speaker B: Yeah.
So often.
[00:38:13] Speaker A: Three.
[00:38:13] Speaker B: But it's. It's in his hot three. Somehow he doesn't know what it is.
[00:38:16] Speaker C: It was one of those.
I can name you some of the skits that were in the show. All right. There's, like, the guy who, like, grew a bunch of, like, asteroid stuff on his skin. And there was, like, the beach one where the.
[00:38:31] Speaker B: How do you grow space matter on your skin?
[00:38:34] Speaker C: But they're, like, scary. But I think they were kind of be funny. But when I was a kid, there's. They're scary. I should have been watching them.
[00:38:43] Speaker B: Throw me for a full fucking loop on the very first one. Like, I don't even know what the hell you're talking about. But now I'm intrigued. I'm probably gonna go watch it.
[00:38:50] Speaker C: This is Halloween. It is the creep show, my friend.
[00:38:53] Speaker B: Nice.
[00:38:53] Speaker C: Yeah. Thanks for the ride, lady.
[00:38:55] Speaker B: No idea what that.
[00:38:59] Speaker C: My brother will appreciate that.
You know it. So, number two, I'll go more modern. I'm gonna go the 6th sense. Ooh, sense. That movie scared me when I was a kid because I didn't. I fell for the whole thing. I didn't. I didn't know the twist. And it was all very real some years old. It was all very real to me. The ghosts and whatnot. So. And the spirits or whatever was in the movie. I was just like, a scary little kid. It's just.
[00:39:28] Speaker B: Yeah, I think the fact that that movie came out when we were all younger and so, like, you. You really related to the kid. You're like, oh, God, these are all this. All the ghost stories that I have in my head.
[00:39:38] Speaker C: And just the stuff you hear in your own house when you're walking around.
[00:39:40] Speaker B: That's what I mean.
[00:39:41] Speaker A: What was that? Yeah.
[00:39:42] Speaker B: Like, you create these stories in your head, and they put them into a movie with a kid as the.
[00:39:46] Speaker A: You get that cold wind across your neck.
[00:39:48] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:39:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:39:49] Speaker C: Yep. It feels like somebody's sitting on your bed when there's nobody.
[00:39:52] Speaker B: Fantastic. M. Night Shyamalan has really fallen off, though. His movies are kind of trash now, but that was in his heyday when, like, he was the king of the. The big twist at the end of the top notch.
[00:40:03] Speaker C: Yeah, man, there's so many I want to talk about, but I'll go on another modern one. Number one, I have a few older ones, too, that you guys probably don't know.
[00:40:10] Speaker B: This is your number one.
[00:40:11] Speaker C: I won't bore you with this, but my best one is the strangers. The one that came out in 2000.
[00:40:15] Speaker B: Ooh, that was a good one. Yeah.
[00:40:16] Speaker A: Oh, God.
[00:40:17] Speaker C: With like the.
[00:40:17] Speaker B: Didn't even think about that one.
[00:40:18] Speaker C: So the flour sack over there. Their heads.
[00:40:21] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:40:21] Speaker C: And it just related with me because I'm like all these other ones. I'm like, this isn't real. I don't believe any of this crap. But the strangers struck me because they, the characters in the movie who were getting killed by these people.
They're like, these people show up at their house, they're like, why are you doing this to us? And they're just like, you were home.
[00:40:40] Speaker A: Yeah, just.
[00:40:40] Speaker C: And it just creeped me out, you know, just some psychos, just like, they just target you because they're your home bomb. I got terrorized them.
[00:40:46] Speaker A: That was actually my, when I was thinking about this last week, that was my number one because that was the scariest to this day. Like, I. It's super creepy and scary to me.
[00:40:56] Speaker C: The new ones I haven't seen, they looked not that good. But that old one from zero eight, I guess, was.
[00:41:01] Speaker A: That was terrifying. Terrifying. That's my number one fear from our old bard. Fears at three is like home invasion and, like, street violence. Like random violence, random acts of violence. Yeah, that's what that movie.
[00:41:11] Speaker C: That movie fits that perfectly.
[00:41:13] Speaker A: What if she's that guy gets, like, stabbed in the belly with something, like.
[00:41:17] Speaker B: Right in the belly.
[00:41:19] Speaker C: I don't even know if I rewatched that movie. I don't like this.
[00:41:22] Speaker A: That was one of the worst things I've seen.
[00:41:25] Speaker B: Nice. That's a good. That's a good hot three. Other than that one that, I don't even know what it is.
I'm gonna watch it now. Keep your other ones for honorable mention. All right, Kenny, what's your hat three?
[00:41:36] Speaker A: My hat?
[00:41:37] Speaker B: Halloween movies.
[00:41:38] Speaker A: How.
[00:41:40] Speaker B: I want to know what your hat three Halloween movies are.
[00:41:42] Speaker A: I gotta be real honest here. Like, I'm not a fan of, like, scary movies or Halloween movies.
[00:41:47] Speaker B: You are a little bitch.
[00:41:48] Speaker A: I would rather. I would rather watch rom coms every day of the week. Like, throw me a good, like, fever pissed or along came Pauly's friends or. Yeah, like, I'm all about those movies. I hate horror movies mostly because they scare the shit out of me.
[00:42:06] Speaker B: Again, you are a little bitch.
[00:42:09] Speaker A: Going back to my hot three.
Number three, the original scream 96.
Again, we were little when that came out. I vividly remember that movie freaking myself. And the bone man out so bad that we had to go pee together. In the bathroom together.
[00:42:27] Speaker B: Like.
[00:42:30] Speaker A: Not like as, like, as you would as adults. Like, let's go to the bathroom and just be in the same room together. Nah, we went full out peeing together. We were like, we gotta go in the toilet at the same time.
[00:42:39] Speaker B: You take your eye off the other one, something could happen. Yeah.
[00:42:42] Speaker C: I mean, that was usually, like a weekend thing for us. That happened a lot.
[00:42:46] Speaker B: That's true.
[00:42:47] Speaker A: You took a lot of baths together, too. Those things happen. But, yeah. I just remember just being terrified by that movie when I was little. Number two.
Another one that I refuse to watch ever again because it scared me so bad. The first time is dawn of the dead.
[00:43:01] Speaker B: Wait, hold on.
[00:43:02] Speaker C: Good one.
[00:43:02] Speaker B: Rewind.
[00:43:03] Speaker C: Great zone.
[00:43:03] Speaker B: You refuse to watch scream ever again. It was. It scared you so much.
[00:43:07] Speaker A: No, I just don't like horror movies.
[00:43:08] Speaker B: Okay. I was gonna say, like, at this point, like, you're an adult now, so you should be able to say, like, understand. That scream is like. It's very, very. What's the word I'm looking for when they, like, break the fourth wall and just, like, talk shit about themselves? It's very.
I'm doing you from last week. Like, how you couldn't think of the word.
[00:43:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know what you're thinking of, but come to me. But I still probably wouldn't want to scream again because I just. I don't get. I don't derive enjoyment from trying to somebody scare me. Like, anxiety, just like, it just makes me breathe heavy. I don't like it. Number two is dawn of the dead. This movie was terrifying because it wasn't your typical zombie flick. These zombies were fast as hell and athletic and just like, from the get go, this guy wakes up and, like, his daughter's infected, and she's like, I don't know, five, and just comes and, like, eats mom, and it's just terrifying. Just so much blood and gore in that. And just the most ferocious, vicious, athletic zombies I've ever seen. Not the zombies like, from walking dead that you can just, like, you can blend into the crowd and they won't eat you.
So, yeah, I don't like Donna the dead. I. And then number one for me, this is one that I'll rewatch over and over again. This is one of my favorite movies of all time. I think it's a remake, and I've never seen the original, but Scorsese's 1991 Cape Fear with Nick Nolte, Jessica Lanez, Juliette Lewis, and of course, Robert De Niro, who's just an absolute menace in this movie.
I don't know if you guys are super familiar or not, but essentially Robert.
[00:44:39] Speaker B: De Niro is another one I'm putting on the list.
[00:44:42] Speaker A: Robert De Niro is like, I'm surprised.
[00:44:44] Speaker B: You'Ve seen this, and I haven't because you hate horror movies. And I actually really like, like horror movies.
[00:44:48] Speaker A: So, yeah, Robert De Niro is like a rapist, and his defense attorney is disgusted by him, and so withholds evidence, gets Robert De Niro put away. So when Robert De Niro gets out, it's his mission to destroy this guy's family. And it's just, I mean, he's just an absolute menace in this movie. And I mean, the creepy all the way. Like, the daughter's 14, and there's a love thing going on with her, and just Nick Nolte loses his absolute shit.
It's just a terrifying.
[00:45:15] Speaker B: You had me, Nolte and Robert de Niro. Like, I'm in. I'm watching this.
[00:45:19] Speaker A: It's a great movie. So, yeah, I have some honorable mention. I have one honorable mention as well that I'll wait for, but those are. Those are my top three. And strangers, like Bone said, is terrifying as well. I hate that movie.
[00:45:30] Speaker B: All right. And so for my hot three, I'm going to start out number three here, Sleepy Hollow. It's a good movie.
[00:45:36] Speaker A: I like that movie with Johnny Depp.
[00:45:38] Speaker B: With Johnny Depp.
[00:45:39] Speaker A: Think about Crane.
[00:45:41] Speaker B: Yeah. It's just because it's not, like, super scary, but it's just scary enough. They did a very good job of taking a, what's more or less a children, what's been turned into a children's story at this point about the headless horseman.
But they gave it just enough of a scare factor to where it was like, ooh, this is pretty cool. And it was Tim Burton. So it's like, it's in Tim Burton style. It's kind of that whole thing going on. And this is before I feel like Tim Burton got to Tim Burton, if that makes sense.
[00:46:10] Speaker A: Tim Burton's really out there now. Like, way out there. Way more out there than he was.
[00:46:14] Speaker B: Yeah. And I think this is more in the vein of, like, you think of Edward Scissorhands and those instead of Alice in Wonderland. Yeah. Yeah. So really good movie. And just well done. I mean, they had what's our boy's name from Joe Dirt.
[00:46:33] Speaker A: Clem.
[00:46:34] Speaker C: Dennis Miller.
[00:46:35] Speaker A: Not that.
Walken. Christopher Walken.
[00:46:38] Speaker B: Christopher Walken as the headless horseman doesn't talk at him, which is crying shame. But because I just love for the headless horse and walk up. What do you mean? Is my head, you're talking to my boy all wrong. You do it again, I'll cut your head off. But, you know, I mean, yeah. Christopher Walken as the headless horseman, it's just, just a good movie. But number two for me is it the made for tv movie with Tim Curry as it.
The new one was actually, the remake was actually very well done and very well acted. The special effects were fantastic, all that stuff. But there's just like, this nostalgia thing with Tim Curry as it, and he's just like, so creepy, goofy.
[00:47:24] Speaker A: That was another one that scared the whole.
[00:47:27] Speaker B: Yeah. And again, it came out when we.
[00:47:28] Speaker A: Were like, I saw that at Bone's house.
[00:47:30] Speaker B: Yeah, we watched that when we were young. That was one of the first, I.
[00:47:33] Speaker C: Don'T think I ever finished it when I was a kid.
[00:47:34] Speaker B: That was one of the first, like, real scary things that I watched. And I was like, oh, my God. I like, you know, it comes up through the drain or through the gutter on the street or whatever the case may be, and he takes on the form of your worst fear. And it was just like, this movie's awful.
[00:47:49] Speaker A: Like, my, the street that I grew up on had a couple of, like, sewage drains like that on it. And, man, I never went by, riding my bike by him every day. Just like, that was my only, you're.
[00:47:59] Speaker B: Like, what's down there?
[00:48:00] Speaker A: It's terrible.
[00:48:01] Speaker B: Yeah. So it was a classic one. And then my number one movie. It's why I got the sweatshirt on today, which is the original movie poster from Halloween. The original Halloween movie launched the career of Jamie Lee Curtis. But just a fantastic scary movie, fantastic slasher movie. It actually launched the genre is credited with launching the genre of slasher movies.
And it's where a lot of the classic tropes come from as far as horror movies go. Because it wasn't intended for slasher movies to be like, the Virgin never dies and like, if you're seen having sex, like, you're definitely dying in the movie. Like, that wasn't the intention.
[00:48:42] Speaker A: Black guy dies first.
[00:48:45] Speaker B: Does a black guy die first in Halloween?
[00:48:47] Speaker E: That's the stereotype.
[00:48:49] Speaker B: I mean, yeah, he never, yeah, but I'm just saying, like, I don't know if that one was Halloween, but, like, but a lot of them came from Halloween because it was the first time it had really been done to that scale. And so, so the big one is Friday, the 13th immediately wanted to capitalize off the success of Halloween, and they played up all of those things and, like, made it a big deal and, like, talked about it. And meta is the word I was looking for earlier. Scream is very meta where, like, they just, they basically play on the fact that, like, this is a movie and they, like, wink at the camera and stuff like that. Like, they don't actually wink at the camera, but they make jokes to let you know that they know they're a movie.
But, yeah. Anyways, Halloween's where a lot of these slasher movie things came from because so many Halloween movies. Yeah, there are now.
And I have my own thing on that and the whole series in general.
[00:49:37] Speaker A: I think the last one I saw was Halloween age two. I saw that in theaters in like.
[00:49:40] Speaker B: 17, probably the next best one besides the original one, by the way. But it just, the Halloween was originally the babysitter murders, and they didn't think that would sell anything, so they made it Halloween because it's contrary to what most people know about Halloween. In the original Halloween, Jamie Lee Curtis wasn't his sister. So it was literally, he showed up and was just murdering random babysitters is how it started. So nice.
Yeah. So Halloween is my favorite for all of those reasons, and that'll do it for my hot three. Let's hear these honorable mentions, guys.
[00:50:13] Speaker A: What's bone got? Bone had like six of them.
[00:50:16] Speaker C: All right, haunting in Connecticut.
[00:50:18] Speaker A: Ooh, I thought that was another scary one.
Hated that.
[00:50:23] Speaker C: People under the stairs. That was one of the ones I didn't think anybody would.
[00:50:26] Speaker A: That was another one that we watched at your house.
[00:50:28] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:50:28] Speaker A: Another scare.
[00:50:29] Speaker C: Creepy. It was a weird, like, using kids, like, lock them in the cages in the basement and then one of them escapes and it's like, in the walls and you just hear creepy things in your house. Roaches in the walls? Like, yeah, I don't know.
[00:50:43] Speaker A: Children of the corn. Children.
[00:50:45] Speaker C: I have children of the dam down on my list here, guys.
[00:50:48] Speaker B: Children that corn I showed my wife a few years back, and, like, as an adult, you know, things aren't, they don't, they don't feel the same. And she saw children in the corn.
[00:50:55] Speaker C: And a lot of them are really cheesy.
[00:50:56] Speaker B: She was like, this is literally worst movie I've ever seen. Like, this is like, I've seen a lot of bad movies, and this is it. This is the worst.
I agree. And I'll still rewatch it. If I see that it's on, I'll be like, ooh, that's there's. A good one. That's a classic. Anymore, I.
[00:51:12] Speaker C: The Leprechaun series is always interesting. When I was a kid, launched the.
[00:51:15] Speaker B: That'S the other thing about horror movies. They launched the career of like, all these actors. Like Halloween, you can point to Paul Rudd was in one of the Halloween.
[00:51:22] Speaker A: A lot of pretty girls that got.
[00:51:23] Speaker B: The Jennifer Aniston and Leopard work on you go back to Friday the 13th and you've got Kevin Bacon.
[00:51:30] Speaker A: Wasn't Terry Reed and scary movie to start a slasher film?
[00:51:34] Speaker B: I'm not sure.
I'm not sure. But Jimmy Lee Curtis we already talked about. There's a number of them. A lot of well known actors got their starts in a big horror movie.
[00:51:45] Speaker C: Jessica Beale was in the Texas Chainsaw massacre.
[00:51:48] Speaker A: It's always funny to go back when you're watching a movie or like a well respected actor or actress, and you go back and like, that's, like, that's in their credits. Like something like leprechaun three.
[00:51:57] Speaker B: Kenny, you have any honorable mentions?
[00:51:59] Speaker A: My honorable mention is final destination.
[00:52:01] Speaker B: The good one.
[00:52:03] Speaker A: Good one. Those ones I'll go back and watch. Cause they aren't.
[00:52:06] Speaker B: To this day, I can't drive behind fucking log trucks.
[00:52:10] Speaker A: Every time you see the log truck on the road, just like, because it takes all of your worst fears, like even the newer one where the girl's getting, like, Lasik surgery and laser goes haywire in her eyes, like, burns her face.
[00:52:21] Speaker B: The guy gets stuck to the drain at the bottom of the pool.
[00:52:25] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. The girls that get in the tanning bed, that get fried alive.
[00:52:28] Speaker B: Even the weightlifting accident.
[00:52:30] Speaker A: Even the big accidents, right? Like the airplane crash, the car crash, the NASCAR event, the bridge collapse. Like all these things. And the roller coaster. The people are flying off the roller coaster. It just takes, like, your biggest fears and plays on them and then makes these gruesome deaths and just this idea of, like, death has a plan for you and you can't outrun it.
[00:52:51] Speaker B: It's just, it started getting crazy for me when they started, like, playing onto that too much, though. Like, it should have just been like, it's coming for you and you can't stop it. Instead, they were like, but unless you, like, kill somebody else or somebody has.
[00:53:02] Speaker A: A child in all those movies, even when they cause it to skip, they eventually end up getting their upcomings.
[00:53:08] Speaker B: Yeah, that's true. Anything else?
[00:53:11] Speaker A: Even the. I think the new one ends up. You think it's a sequel, but it turns out it was a prequel to the whole series because they were getting on playing 180 for Paris at the very end.
[00:53:22] Speaker B: Nice. Do you have any other honorable mentions?
[00:53:24] Speaker A: No, that's mine. All the final destinations?
[00:53:28] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm not gonna throw any out there. I like a lot of horror movies, and I could take all day on honorable mentions, so I'm just gonna abstain instead. Smart. But that'll do it for our hot three. Kenny, time for another interview.
[00:53:40] Speaker A: I love interviews.
[00:53:41] Speaker B: Obviously, this is the time of the show when we do our brownsbackers interview series. The Brownsbackers interview series started because we wanted to highlight Brownsbackers chapters everywhere, not only for being great Browns fans, especially when the team is what they are right now, shitty, but also for all the great community service work, the great charity work they're doing, and just building a sense of camaraderie wherever Brown's fans are located. So, with that, let's go ahead and get into the next interview in the series.
[00:54:14] Speaker A: Powered by Riverside.
[00:54:21] Speaker B: All right, so for this Brownsbackers interview, please help me welcome one of our good friends that we met at the Brownsbackers president summit this year. The president of the Bowling Green Brownsbackers, Lauren.
Hey, Lauren, how are you? Thanks so much for joining us.
[00:54:37] Speaker D: Good. I'm glad to be here. Excited?
[00:54:41] Speaker B: Absolutely. It's going to be a good time. I mean, I wish the Browns were better so we could be more excited, but it's going to be a good time nonetheless.
So before we get into the Browns, though, I want to hear about your chapter. Just tell me everything that you can about them. Viewing location, when you were established, number of members, those types of things.
[00:55:01] Speaker D: All right. So I'm located in Bowling Green, Ohio, by BGSU.
We were established in 2010.
Our viewing location, I actually own. It's a bar here in town, campus court.
My husband and I own that. We bought that in zero five.
[00:55:23] Speaker B: And that's the queue. Yeah, that's the queue. Kenny was asking before we got started what the queue and your logo was. That's the queue.
[00:55:32] Speaker A: That makes sense.
[00:55:33] Speaker D: Quarters. Yep, that's us. The viewing location.
And when we bought the bar, the previous bar manager was a Steelers fan, so there was a lot of Steelers gear in there. And my husband, I think I mentioned this when we met, is a Steelers fan.
It was, yeah. So that's been a journey in and of itself. But I had to work really hard to get it via Brown's bar.
And so, little by slowly, customers helped me by stealing signs of. Just kidding. But that did happen. I'm not gonna say, but, uh, however.
[00:56:17] Speaker B: You gotta do this, you know.
[00:56:18] Speaker D: Yeah, we slowly built up our brown's gear, I guess, in the bar. And I applied to be a brownsbackers bar. My husband was a little frustrated, but he is a Cleveland in general fan. He's guardians, cavaliers, all of that. So he understood the benefit and the appeal, and I didn't give him much choice. So 2010, we became an official chapter with an official viewing location.
Right now, I think we're at, like, 434 as far as online portal members.
My club's a little unique because it is a college town. So a lot of our members are only here for a few years at a time.
They still maintain membership, and they come back. Homecomings are always fun because we get some crew in there for the games.
Some old faces I haven't seen, which is really unique, because we don't. You were right earlier, we don't have a stadium near us. We're about two and a half hours from Cleveland, and so it's different trying to lure people out to come and watch with their friends and families and fellow Browns fans.
So, yeah, it's been a unique experience. But 14, almost 15 years in, we're stoked and still going nice.
[00:57:56] Speaker B: A couple of things real quick. One, at least we know that some Steelers fans do have a small amount of brainstor, and he understands happy wife, happy life, and, yeah, and there's. There's a brownsbacker's bar because of it. So we really appreciate that part of it. And the only downside there is, I was really hopeful that you were gonna say there was a bunch of Steeler stuff in there, and we burned it.
[00:58:21] Speaker D: Well, I will say a nice story is we had.
We have, like, a pretty big back section of, like, indoor cornhole and stuff. And on one of our really high 30 foot walls, we had a Steelers country banner that was there. And about a month into us owning the bar, somebody ripped it down, and we really don't know who, but somebody ripped it down and they peed on it.
[00:58:46] Speaker B: Nice.
[00:58:47] Speaker D: I was like, it's pretty much the world telling us we just need to be a Browns fan.
[00:58:52] Speaker B: Yeah. The other part of this is that it was a Steelers bar and it closed. So, I mean that, you know.
[00:58:58] Speaker A: Right.
[00:58:58] Speaker B: Just. Just saying.
Yeah.
[00:59:02] Speaker A: So you mentioned, obviously, a lot of the folks brought coming through the bar, students. Do you get a lot of, like, I guess, family coming in to maybe visit students during, like, family weekends and things?
[00:59:11] Speaker D: Yeah, we just had a family weekend this past weekend, and so you get a lot of parents with their kids coming out, which is fun. Our bar is kind of set up for that, like where the bar you could take your family to, too.
[00:59:25] Speaker A: Nice.
[00:59:27] Speaker D: And we get a lot of crowd, and it's nice to see. They're always impressed that there is a brownsbackers bar out there, that this is something that we provide for the community, and it's a big hit.
[00:59:43] Speaker B: Nice. And so I know brownsbackers in general just, I mean, everybody knows you guys are all huge fans of the Browns, and, you know, the fact that you have Browns backers bars and locations speaks to that. But what a lot of people don't realize, I think they're starting to realize. We tell them about it all the time, but every week is just the amount of charity work or the amount of community service that all the brownsbackers chapters are involved with. So are you involved with any charity or community work?
[01:00:13] Speaker D: Yeah. Since 2012, we've worked with the Autism Society of Northwest Ohio.
It's called ASNO for short. You can find
[email protected] dot.
They're a local northwest Ohio based autism resource for the community. They help connect caregivers and parents and family with resources that they may need. They help guide them through the diagnosis process and transitions from little kid work to high school, transitioning to college, transitioning into adulthood. So they're doing a lot of good work for the autism community in particular, and it means a lot to us. My son was diagnosed with autism. I have twin boys that are 13. One of them was diagnosed with autism when he was about 18 months old, which is kind of young for a diagnosis, but he had regression, which is scary, but it basically means, like, he was the first one that would shake your hand as a baby and be like, very nice to meet you and do all these cute, clever things. And he just went silent one day, and we call it his quiet time. And he was diagnosed with autism. He didn't speak again from about, I would say, 1415 months, is when he stopped. And the only sounds he made was laughing or if he was crying.
No eye contact, all the signs.
But because he stopped, because he was progressing, and then he stopped and regressed, it really alerted us right away that something was going on and allowed us to reach out right away to the doctors, the autism society, all those places, and get him started with therapy. And he's like a thriving middle schooler now that does quiz bowl and knows every single flag of every single country in the world. So they were a huge part of his development. So I felt like that was a good way for you, for us to give back to the community, which is something that the brownsbaggers worldwide organization really focuses on, is, you know, promoting, obviously, the Browns in a positive way, but also we as fans, giving back to our community and recognizing that we in this role have an ability to organize and fundraise or volunteer and help out.
So this really was one that we did the first year, was kind of fly by the seat of your.
And still I feel like it's like that sometimes. But we went, I think our first fundraiser, we raised about 500 or $600, and we just finished our 12th one. It was on the 13th. And we've raised this year's tallies over 8000 already.
[01:03:48] Speaker A: Wow.
[01:03:48] Speaker D: We're waiting for a few last minute donations, but, yeah, it's been amazing being able to give back and really having the support of the Cleveland Brown. A lot of people don't realize that the Cleveland Browns kind of created this opportunity for Browns fans. I think they realized that Browns fans were doing that already, coming together and watching together, celebrating together, and they really encourage it.
And they are so massively supportive of our fundraising goals. You know, we can send in a request to get autographed items to help our raffles or auctions.
They provide contacts for getting players and alumni to events. It's a great resource for fans, and no other football team in the league is doing as much for their fans in a capacity like this. I mean, if you think about it, we're all over the world. I think our club or our chapter tally is 370 or close to it. So there's a huge fan base out there. And all of these backers chapters are raising money for charities of their choice. And it's amazing how much the Brown spec worldwide organization, as well as the Cleveland Browns organizations really encourage and support that and how much they do to give back to their communities wherever they're located in the world.
[01:05:33] Speaker B: Absolutely. And I know you have a particular story we talked about at the Brownsbackers president summit with your charity and something that you were able to do for them during COVID that we'd like you to share if you could.
[01:05:47] Speaker D: Yeah. So what a lot of people may not realize is places like the autism Society and other charities, they rely on continual donations in order to fund their events, pay their employees, who don't make much to begin with but do all the hard work.
And really they operate on a grant, essentially, and everything else for them, all the money they need for them to operate fully and really impact the community comes from donations. And during COVID not only were people out of work, but businesses were closed, income was down, and people stopped donating. They didn't have the luxury of the expendable money to give to others. They may have lost work, but donations were down, and we held during COVID we actually had to postpone our autism fundraiser, which was heartbreaking. But when you can't have more than 15 people in a space, it's hard to do events like that. So the year after, we went really big and really wanted to have a great example of us giving back to support them since we missed a year.
And that year, we ended up donating, I think, just over $7,000. And when I spoke with the director, Kate Schwartz, who's an amazing woman who busts butt every day, every week to apply for grants, she's literally a one man show, that, and she was like, we wouldn't have been able to cover payroll and to cover our events without this donation. That's how much their donations decreased or stopped over Covid, and that's a huge thing. There are tons of families that rely on them for support, meeting groups. They have all these things, functions for children with autism, for teens with autism, and all of that was at risk. They had already minimized, gotten rid of events for that year, and it was amazing as a club chapter to come together and be able to not just raise money for them like we typically do, but to do so in a significant way that really allowed them to continue operating that year and give them that space. They needed to build back some of their donations to get people back into the swing of donating. And, you know, the director was, like, in tears that year.
She's very humble and works very hard, and it's just a great source of pride for myself as the president.
But in my chapter, in the members that come every year that show up regardless, a funny fact is we've done. This was our 12th in all twelve years. The Browns have only won one time during one of our events. That was last year.
So I, you know, we don't have the best record on that, but we have a good time, and we raise a lot of money and a lot of awareness, and so it's worth it.
[01:09:39] Speaker B: For sure, to be fair, things like that. I don't think the Browns have a good record for anybody for anything last 25 years now. Yeah, I mean, we're the best fans in the world. I didn't say it was the best team in the world, but ups and.
[01:09:55] Speaker D: Downs, ups and downs.
[01:09:57] Speaker B: We just.
Absolutely. Yeah.
[01:10:02] Speaker A: What an incredible story, though. I mean, that just goes to show you the direct impact that these groups have on their local communities. And it sounds like you got a really nice relationship there with them just over several years, helping them out. Sounds like they've been there for you, too, and your own kind of personal journey. So just, just an awesome story all around. We appreciate you sharing that.
[01:10:21] Speaker B: Yeah. So, yeah, it's just, I mean, it does show just how, how much brownsbackers groups are giving back to those charities and what they mean to those charities, just as far as operations and everything they, that they do throughout the year. Just amazing. Amazing story.
Yeah, you should be. But the other thing, you know, obviously, you know, we talk about the charity side of it, and that's what we're, you know, you and us as Browns fans, we're most proud of, but we also do root for this team. So we're going to switch gears here a little bit, talk more on the football side of things.
And to start that, one more thing for your chapter. Do you have any events coming up?
[01:11:10] Speaker D: We do weekly watch parties.
We also do a weekly 50 50 that I have.
Members suggest different local charities. On the November 21, we'll be raising money for the Bowling Green schools foundations. This helps with the elementary, middle and high school students in our area. Helps provide, you know, their, the school's ability to donate items. They do things like backpacks for those in need, similar to what we did at this past year's function.
They provide resources, pizza parties, all these things that really keep the kids ready and willing to be in a school environment, having a good time and learning.
So we're really excited about that one. That's November 21, if that's the Sunday, I think.
But we try to get input from our club members. So anybody out there that's looking for some money raised in the VG area, contact us. We love to help out and support.
[01:12:30] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[01:12:31] Speaker A: You know who to call.
[01:12:32] Speaker B: Yeah.
And so more on the football side of things before we get into the actual team and how they're playing and those sort of things, try and postpone this as much as we can this season.
What are your thoughts on the stadium decision? I mean, obviously they've announced that they intend to move to Brook park. I know there's some politicians up here trying to sue them, but that's not going to go anywhere. They're not leaving Cleveland. They're just moving to Brook park. So what are your thoughts on this?
[01:13:01] Speaker D: You know, I love that stadium. That was like, what gave us our football team back, you know, and it really was a big thing. But as a fan, we've all been to a game in December by the lake with the wind and the snow, and it's hard to watch games there, regardless of the football because it's cold and it's, you know, a wind tunnel. We've all. Anyone that's ever been to a game in the winter can attest to that. So I think the idea of. Of a more covered. I would love a retractable dome, but having a cover really does provide a lot more options. I think it will help with attendance, people knowing they can go to this game regardless of what the weather ends up being, and be able to enjoy themselves and stay dry and watch the game. Think location.
It's different. It'll be weird not having it by the rest of the Cleveland City life stadium, you know, the Cavs arena, all those places. But it's such a great area. And if you consider how many more things we'll be able to host at that stadium, whether it be concerts, fundraisers, you know, stand up, comedians, games, other things, it really, I think, will end up being beneficial for Cleveland, having these options available that we didn't really have with our current state stadium.
[01:14:48] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. And one of the things we noticed is the Browns, when they put out the renderings of the stadium, the new stadium, it was clearly geared toward, like, the one photo showed, like a pop concert, and it was clearly, it was Taylor Swift that they were saying they were trying to bring, but they said it without saying it. And so, yeah, I mean, to your point, all of the events that they can bring in that they could never have before are phenomenal.
[01:15:13] Speaker A: Well, and I think, to your point, too, just around business development, what this is going to ultimately lead to, I believe, is just like an urban sprawl towards that area. So you're just going to see more and more businesses, restaurants, hotels, bars, those sorts of things kind of pop up on the way to stadium.
[01:15:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
And so on to the. The team that we all love to root for.
I think that's why I have such a bad cold, is I went to the game and I watched him Sunday, Sunday afternoon. And it made you sick.
It really did. And I hate to say that, but it was. It was. That. That was an interest. The most interesting football game I've ever been to in all the wrong ways. So, you know, this, obviously, this past Sunday, fan favorite Nick Chubb came back. So let's. Let's start out with the positive. How excited were you to see Nick Chubb return?
[01:16:09] Speaker D: Man, it's. I've been waiting. It seems like, for longer than he's been injured for him to come back. And I think. I think, you know, first game back, he's got 22 run yards, ten yard reception and touchdown. For someone that was that injured for that long, to come back in and step up like that is just a credit to his character that Browns fans, I think, all understand.
He puts in the work, you know, and it really feeds the fan base. He really knows what we want, knows what we like.
He just keeps chugging.
He's the best.
[01:16:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:16:55] Speaker A: I love chubb.
[01:16:55] Speaker B: Yeah, it was, it was.
I said on our live show Sunday night, I said that was the loudest during player introductions. You know, there's not that many people, not everybody's ready to go in the stadium yet. Like, everybody's still filing in, you know, getting their seats, those types of things.
But that was the loudest I've ever heard a crowd during a player introduction. Everybody nuts.
[01:17:17] Speaker D: Yeah. I feel like he's, you know, the city has kind of embraced him as, like, a representation of us, someone that wants to get in there, do the work, you know, have some fun, but really focus on the winning. And his drive is just unbelievable.
[01:17:36] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. And so on the flip side of that coin, you know, a guy that completely. That has the fan base completely divided and went down in this one, what were your thoughts to Sean Watson and kind of how the crowd reacted when he went down with that injury?
[01:17:53] Speaker D: So you never want. I never want to see at least a professional athlete get injured in a season ending or career ending. It's tragic. And so the booing and or the cheering at his injury was a little harsh, I think.
I think it probably stems from just overwhelming frustration at how this year's gone with him and his performance.
But again, it's pretty tacky to be cheering for anyone to get injured.
[01:18:28] Speaker A: But.
[01:18:29] Speaker D: I feel like I'm looking at this like a positive. I feel like he was in the game, kept in the game, because it was a principal type of thing. Like, we're paying you this money.
You're supposed to be our quarterback. You need to be out there working, building this team. And I feel like fans never really saw him embrace that. They didn't really feel like he was going out there and giving his best and trying to win, and he has potential, but there's no delivery. So I feel like ultimately, this opens up an avenue for at least this season to get, you know, DTR or Winston in there and hopefully build some team camaraderie. I feel like this year, especially used to see them go out there and they look like they're having fun and they're excited to be on the field and ready to get back to work. And I feel like so far this season, we've seen, we've seen a team that is frustrated and doesn't feel like they have a good leader in there, that's rallying them together and getting them to go in there and play the game of football that they love. And I feel like at least the Browns always play the best when the team is like a cohesive, getting along, enjoying each other, valuing each other's contributions. And we haven't really seen that this year. So I'm excited.
You know, hopefully we can, depending on DTR's injury, his finger, you know, maybe we can get some consistency in there, even if it's not, you know, Tom Brady level quarterbacking, somebody that can, you know, bring this team together, give them things to catch on a consistent base, you know, set them up the way that they're supposed to.
So it's unfortunate that he's injured and out for the season, but I feel like it kind of gives us a second chance on the season as far, as far as mentality goes.
[01:20:52] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, honestly, that's kind of where we landed on it.
[01:20:54] Speaker A: I think that was the most since succinct analysis of Deshaun Watson we've heard from anybody all year long was that there's tremendous potential, zero delivery, and that's it. That's the story on Deshaun Watson.
[01:21:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
[01:21:08] Speaker D: I feel like Cleveland will rally behind someone that's struggling if they're making the effort and if they're building that team, and he just never gave that.
[01:21:20] Speaker A: Yeah, I think to your point, like, we saw, we saw that last year, right when Deshawn went down and we're looking around going, we don't really have a good option at quarterback. Like, to your point, like, the team came together, there was camaraderie. They were playing for each other because they knew they were alone in that foxhole, that all they had was their brothers in arms, and. And that was fun football to watch.
[01:21:39] Speaker B: That was some of the most fun football to watch.
[01:21:41] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:21:43] Speaker B: So, yeah, yeah. And so, you know, kind of moving on to this week's game, but a follow up to that question, and you mentioned DTR and Winston and kind of what's going on there? Who do you think going to start between those two?
Assuming DTR is healthy?
[01:22:01] Speaker D: Assuming DTR is healthy.
I don't know. I'll say personally on my fantasy football team. I've been starting Winston for the last two weeks.
[01:22:12] Speaker B: Just hoping. Yeah. Yeah. I like that.
[01:22:17] Speaker D: You got me ten points yesterday.
[01:22:20] Speaker B: I've been saying the past two weeks on our show that I think this was this week. I didn't have him, but two weeks prior to that, I had Jameis Winston as my player to watch, because if he got into the game, we had a chance.
Yeah.
[01:22:34] Speaker D: I feel like I'm a big fan of DTR. I think it was the first year that we signed him. We had our Brown packers event out there, and you got to see him on the field, and he's really talented, throws money, passes, at least at practice, you know, but I feel like either one of those two, when they step in, they have.
They have enough respect from their team that they're able to set things up. They're younger. I feel like they read the field different, and I feel like they fit our type of offense a little bit better than Watson has. I feel like we've been trying to work around Watson instead of finding a quarterback that fits our strengths and our abilities. And so I'm a big fan of DTR and Winston. I feel like he goes in and he performs, you know? So.
[01:23:40] Speaker A: So it sounds like you're okay with either one.
[01:23:42] Speaker D: Yeah, I'm okay with either one, I think.
[01:23:45] Speaker A: Fair enough.
[01:23:48] Speaker B: Yeah. And so one of the things, you know, you mentioned, I just thought this was funny, and I had to point it out, was you mentioned that either of these guys seem to be able to run the offense better than Deshaun Watson, even though in the offseason, that's what the Browns did, is they built this offense completely around Deshaun Watson skillset and what he was supposed to be able to do.
So it's just. It's just interesting, and you're not wrong, and that's. That's the problem. And to just go back to what you were saying before about a lot of potential. No delivery.
Yeah. We built an offense around a guy based on his skills that other people run better than he does.
[01:24:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:24:26] Speaker B: So it's. I mean. I mean, it is what it is. I know this. This whole thing's been. Been talked about at not ad nausea himself for this game, regardless of who plays Winston or DTR. What is your score prediction for this game against the Ravens?
[01:24:46] Speaker D: I'd really like the Browns to squeak it out here, and I think there's.
[01:24:52] Speaker B: Don't be afraid to pick against the Browns.
[01:24:54] Speaker D: No, I don't want. I never. I never. I'm not kidding. My fantasy team is full of Browns players because you don't win a lot of fantasy football.
In my fantasy football, the Browns are on top. And so I'll say, hmm, let's do.
I think we can squeak out a good 37 points and maybe they'll have. Have 30.
[01:25:31] Speaker A: Dang, I mean, I like it. I mean, they're going to have to probably score 37.
[01:25:35] Speaker B: That's going to be like, as much offense as we've produced the entire season so far. I like where your head's at, Lauren. This is, this is going to be a fun game to watch.
[01:25:44] Speaker A: I love the veg team is all Browns. That's true dedication there.
[01:25:48] Speaker B: Absolutely. You know, I don't care about winning. I just love the Browns.
[01:25:54] Speaker D: Everyone in my league loves when they play me.
[01:25:59] Speaker B: That's okay, that's okay.
But one last question before, before we go, we usually ask this. I was, you know, having a cough attack, having a cold, doing all kinds of things here, trying to make it through.
Yeah. And so what. How did you become a Browns fan?
[01:26:16] Speaker D: I grew up just east of Cleveland, about 30 minutes in Madison, Ohio, right up on the lake. And obviously being close to Cleveland, we were Brown's fans. I remember as a child of like seven, eight, making signs like poster board that we'd hunt down go Browns and hanging them around my house, like off the staircase before every game. You know, my dad was a fan, my grandpa was a fan, my mom as a fan, my grandma, who's 93, she was going to every home game. I mean, it's just built in us, I guess. And I was, you know, a part of the people that cheered for the old Browns before we went away.
And so during that gone time, I. I didn't really watch football. And then as soon as they were back, I was back. And I don't think you can. It's very hard, as most Browns fans will admit, it's very hard to be a Browns fan, but it's also very hard not to be a Browns fan. Literally every year I get this feeling like, I think we've got it. Like, we could do it this year.
[01:27:44] Speaker B: And we know exactly what you're talking about.
[01:27:46] Speaker D: Yeah. It makes us a unique breed of fans, I think, you know?
[01:27:51] Speaker B: Yeah, no, and that's great. I love the stories of you, you guys making homemade banners and hanging them up and stuff. That's awesome.
[01:27:58] Speaker A: That's how you end up with a fantasy football team full of Browns.
[01:28:00] Speaker B: Yeah, but I mean, you put it.
I think every Browns fan can relate to what you just said is it's hard to love the Browns sometimes, but the minute you get it into your head that you want to root for somebody else, you're like, I'm fed up with this. I want to try and go a different direction. Maybe I'll pick a new team. Then you start looking at me like, but I hate that team because they're not the Browns. I hate that team. And then you come back to, well, I guess I'll just keep being a Browns fan. It's like, I love. I love to love them, even though they break my heart so often.
[01:28:34] Speaker A: I think that's what's so unique about Browns fans is that it's really in the heart. Your head can be telling you that this is wrong. Yeah.
[01:28:44] Speaker D: Yourself. But. Yeah.
[01:28:46] Speaker B: Yeah, agree. That's fantastic. But, hey, Lauren, listen, we had a really good time talking to you. We could talk all day long about the browns and about chapters like yours that make the brownsbacker such a unique and wonderful, wonderful organization.
But unfortunately, we do have to get to the rest of our show. So, listen, we really appreciate you being on with us. Um, and hopefully we'll see you again soon. I know there's a. We'll probably be at the Brownsbackers presence I'm gonna get next year, but maybe even before then, so.
[01:29:17] Speaker A: For sure.
[01:29:18] Speaker D: Perfect. It was great being here with you guys. Good to see you again.
[01:29:21] Speaker B: Thanks, Lauren.
[01:29:22] Speaker A: Absolutely. Thanks so much.
[01:29:23] Speaker D: See ya. Go, Browns.
This is Lauren Kostelnik from the bowling green brownsbackers in Bowling Green, Ohio, with the burning river sports cast.
I hope you enjoyed go, browns.
[01:29:43] Speaker B: Good time talking to Lauren from the bowling greens. Brown. Bowling green brownsbackers, huh?
[01:29:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Except for you can't breathe or talk.
[01:29:49] Speaker B: That was awful, man. I had like a, like, I don't know what it's like to have asthma. I know you do, but I feel like that's what it felt like. I could not breathe all of a sudden. That was. That was wild.
[01:30:02] Speaker A: Yeah. Outside of that, Lauren was great. Lauren at the president's summit this year, and she was a lot of fun.
A lot of great things.
[01:30:09] Speaker B: Very unique situation. Because she owns her own bar.
[01:30:11] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:30:12] Speaker B: That is the brownsbackers viewing location, correct?
[01:30:15] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, it sounds like this has been good for their business and sounds like their business doing well, so good for them.
But, yeah, she was a lot of fun at the president's summit and a lot of fun here today.
[01:30:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
So with that, let's go ahead and take a quick revenue break and then get back here and talk about the week eight, match up with the Ravens.
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All right, guys, it's getting closer and closer to that time. Burning river sportscast will soon help the dog pound takeover. New Orleans.
[01:31:32] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:31:33] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Can't wait.
[01:31:34] Speaker B: Are we excited?
[01:31:36] Speaker A: I'm a little scared. Cause I was just talking about a plane blowing up.
Final destination.
[01:31:40] Speaker B: I don't think we'll talk about it during this.
[01:31:43] Speaker A: Let's not think about it.
[01:31:45] Speaker B: So this event includes optional round trip, private charter flight, three night stay at Renaissance New Orleans Pere Marquette French Quarter welcome party, which is an all inclusive cruise down the Mississippi river with dog Pound Q and a with Kevin Mac. Some autographs there as well. Most likely pep rally the day before all inclusive tailgate, the day of tickets to the game at Superdome, which is the site of the Super bowl this year, and on site trip coordinators to handle any questions that may arise. We also have a few more friends. Bridget Linton. I hear there's. There may be rumblings about some other alumni that possibly could make it. But, yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun. And I think the one upside to the browns not being very good this year, people are gonna party extra hard.
[01:32:27] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I plan to.
[01:32:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:32:29] Speaker C: For sure.
[01:32:30] Speaker A: Cuz I don't wanna be awake during a game.
[01:32:32] Speaker C: Been doing. I've been doing some food research for our spare time.
[01:32:36] Speaker B: Nice. I like that.
[01:32:37] Speaker A: Good.
[01:32:37] Speaker B: This is why we bring bone.
[01:32:38] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[01:32:39] Speaker A: Nice.
[01:32:39] Speaker B: This is why we bring bone.
[01:32:40] Speaker A: Now I don't have to do it.
[01:32:41] Speaker B: Yeah. Are you gonna be like our boy? T wobbles?
[01:32:45] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Carry me out of there.
[01:32:46] Speaker B: Yeah, nice. I like that. I mean, I'm not gonna carry you. I'll just leave you there.
[01:32:50] Speaker A: I don't care.
[01:32:51] Speaker B: No, I won't.
[01:32:52] Speaker A: I gotta get back on that plane, man.
[01:32:54] Speaker B: We can leave you there. If you stayed in New Orleans, it'd probably be better for everybody.
[01:32:58] Speaker A: Hopefully there's food service in the hotel room.
[01:33:01] Speaker B: Cause you're gonna be dead.
[01:33:03] Speaker A: Room service?
[01:33:04] Speaker B: Yeah, with that. Let's get into the week seven preview brought to you by true fan travel.
All right, guys, this week we have the Baltimore Ravens. Kenny, you know what it's time for?
[01:33:22] Speaker A: Oh, is it time for Kenny's Cliff's notes?
[01:33:24] Speaker B: Yeah, it's time for Kenny's Cliff notes.
[01:33:26] Speaker A: Time for Kenny's Cliff's notes.
Why did I use such a small font?
Ravenscliff notes what else is Marilyn known for? About a football and crab kicks Ohio zone John Harbaugh in his 17th season.
[01:33:47] Speaker B: Is that a trick question?
I get it now. I missed. I missed the I'm connecting it now. Bad job. Out of me.
[01:33:58] Speaker A: Plains, Ohio zone John Harbaugh in his 17th season at the Ravens helm, making him the second longest tenured coach in the NFL, going 100 as a head coach.
[01:34:11] Speaker B: Join longer Mike Tomlin only one is.
[01:34:13] Speaker A: Mike Tomlin, but in 2019 he was the NFL coach of the year and has led Baltimore to playoff births in eleven of their 16 previous seasons.
[01:34:21] Speaker B: And that's a good percentage.
[01:34:22] Speaker A: And 2012 captured the franchise's second Super Bowl. Harbaugh's defense has allowed the NFL's fewest overall touchdowns, the fewest points per game and the second fewest net yards per game under his and leadership. That's his career, not just for one season.
Wow. Oh, and they run the ball. The Ribbons have restaurant NFL high 16,668 yards since Lamar Jackson's rookie campaign in 2018. A familiar face at offensive coordinator and Todd Monken, who was with the Cleveland Browns during the 2019 campaign and produced Oda Beckham's last thousand yard season. Zachary, or former player forced to retire due to congenital neck and spine spine condition, is in his 8th year as NFL coach and his first as the Ravens. DC Lamar Jackson and Derek Henry lead the nation's top rushing attack. Henry first and Lamar 15th. It's 15th of all rushers, not quarterbacks. That's 15th in the whole league.
So yeah, they're pretty good. Lamar also no slouch, ranks 9th in pass yards and has thrown ten touchdowns to two interceptions on the season, which may have already changed tonight. Justice Hill is a speedy spell to King Henry, who is a gifted pass catcher. Ze flowers and Rashad Bateman are underwhelming as a top threat as a receiver duo, but Lamar Jackson seems to elevate their gameplay by being decisive and accurate. Isaiah likely has seemingly taken over as the top pass catching tight end over Mark Andrews, and he is their third leading pass catcher on the seasons. But Mark Andrews has still been very active on the season and both essentially are kind of overshadowed by the revolutionary rushing attack.
But that being said, these may be the past, the two best past catching tight ends in the NFL. Oh, and let's not forget Patrick Ricard, their fullback, who is one of the best in the league and also receives tough carries in short yardage and goal line sets.
The Ravens overhauled their offensive line this offseason, moving on from three starters, bringing in younger players bolstered by Tyler Linderbaum, a first round pick in 2022. He was been a standout veteran utility man Patrick Makari and Roger Rosengarden, second round rookie making a name for himself at the position, and former first round pick Ronnie Stanley is one of the best in the NFL left tackle. The defensive line is stout and veteran laden. Despite the exodus of talent a year ago, there are still several high impact players in this defensive lineup, including Roquan Smith, Kyle Van Ness, Adafe Owa, Marlon Humphrey and Kyle Hamilton. Each of these guys has the ability to impact the game on their own and one of the biggest and best legs in the NFL. Round out their special teams with Justin Tucker, though, at ten and 13 on the year, it has some wondering if father time may be catching up to the historically reliable boot.
[01:37:07] Speaker B: Speaking of Justin Tucker. Well, first of all, I have two things to say right now.
[01:37:12] Speaker A: Sam.
[01:37:13] Speaker B: I like Kenny's Cliff notes. It just runs for like four minutes. It gives me time to get my life right. I think I might start, like, building a. Like. Like a tower of cards or something. Like, while you're doing Kenny's Cliff notes, by the time you're done, I'm like, look what I built.
[01:37:25] Speaker A: There you go.
[01:37:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
Number two. Speaking of Justin Tucker, listen, we came out with shirts that said, they say Dustin is greater than Justin.
[01:37:37] Speaker C: Hmm. Those have aged.
[01:37:40] Speaker A: Aged poorly.
[01:37:41] Speaker B: Do you guys think it's time to retire our shirts from our shop? Because he's definitely not better than Justin.
[01:37:48] Speaker A: No, I'll still take Dustin over Justin.
[01:37:50] Speaker B: Oh, you would?
[01:37:51] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:37:51] Speaker C: He's our guy.
[01:37:52] Speaker A: He's our guy.
[01:37:53] Speaker B: Bone, you literally text us this weekend and said on the show on Sunday, I don't love him anymore.
[01:37:59] Speaker C: Well, yeah, that's.
[01:38:00] Speaker E: That's true.
[01:38:01] Speaker B: I said, yeah, we.
[01:38:03] Speaker C: I expect things for my kickers. He's. He's not.
[01:38:06] Speaker B: You remember we said your love with. With Dustin Hopkins is not a Jonas Brothers love.
[01:38:11] Speaker C: Very superficial.
[01:38:13] Speaker B: Yeah. So, I don't know. I guess we don't have to discontinue the shirts, but they just don't. They're not as good anymore.
[01:38:18] Speaker A: They don't sell well.
[01:38:20] Speaker C: You know, he's not kicking field goals, he's not making them. He's not kicking game winners, which he hasn't had opportunities to not make an extra point is, you know, the basic things that kickers do.
[01:38:29] Speaker B: Do you think it's because he sits on the side so long, he's just cold? He's just like. I don't know.
[01:38:33] Speaker A: I think they got issues with the whole, with just the package. I think with Charlie Hewitt being out, I think they've, they really miss him. I mean, that guy played in like 7000 straight games as a long snapper before he got hurt, so. And we hadn't, hadn't had an issue in years.
[01:38:46] Speaker B: That's fair.
I had to talk about those things. But anyways, that'll take us to Ronnie Jam's matchups that matter.
All right, so this week, for Ronnie's. Ronnie jam's matchups that matter, first one, I'm going Browns front seven versus Derrick Henry. And you could actually throw Lamar Jackson in this as well. Cause this is more of just like, the rushing attack.
[01:39:12] Speaker A: We should probably just put Brown's front eleven, the rushing attack.
[01:39:16] Speaker B: That's fair. But you mentioned it already. Derek Henry is first in the league in rushing yards. Lamar Jackson is 15th in the league in rushing yards. They have the top rushing offense in the league. They're averaging 205.3 yards per game.
[01:39:33] Speaker A: It's not bad.
[01:39:34] Speaker B: That is not a typo. I said that correctly. 205.3 yards per game.
[01:39:40] Speaker A: They average more rushing yards per game than DeShawn Watson has ever thrown for as a Cleveland Brown.
[01:39:45] Speaker B: Not ever. But, like this year.
[01:39:47] Speaker A: Yeah, this year.
[01:39:47] Speaker B: Yeah.
That's a fair. That's a true stack.
[01:39:51] Speaker A: I mean, I would almost say ever. How many of the Sean Watson games went over 200 yards?
[01:39:54] Speaker C: Not many.
[01:39:55] Speaker B: Not many.
[01:39:55] Speaker A: Can't be very many.
[01:39:56] Speaker B: No, he definitely never threw for 300 yards.
But they also have ten touchdowns on the season, so not bad to start. I'm not saying you're going to contain them, because you're not. They're going to the Ravens.
I'll be honest, I'm willing to venture the Ravens are going to feast on the Browns defense, but if the Browns have any chance in this, they're going to have to slow down that rush defense or that rush offense just a little bit. So. Just a little. So that's a matchup that matters. The next one here, our backup QB, whoever that ends up being, whoever the starter ends up being, I should say they're the backup as of this moment until the starter is announced, how they do against the Ravens secondary so even though they are first in the league in everything, rushing the Ravens secondary, on the other side of the ball, they rank 31st against the pass. Now, I say the backup quarterback, whoever ends up starting this game, because the Ravens also ranked number one against the rush, and they're only giving up 59 yards per game on the ground.
[01:41:01] Speaker C: Wow.
[01:41:02] Speaker B: Again, not a typo. You heard that correctly. They are giving up 59 yards per game.
[01:41:07] Speaker A: Nick Chubb will have at least 82 on the ground.
[01:41:09] Speaker B: I like that.
But with that being said, I envision the Browns having to pass a lot, regardless, regardless of who's at quarterback.
And so that is, that is a place. That's probably why the Ravens rank 31st against the passes, because every team is trying to catch up to them.
[01:41:26] Speaker A: True garbage time yards, but yeah.
[01:41:29] Speaker B: So that's the other matchup that matters. In summary here, the Ravens, they're four and two, potentially will be five and two or four and three by the time we, as of right now, if we're watching the game, there'll be five and two coming into this one. Coming off a big Monday night football matchup with the Buccaneers, this team is very good. Their offense is literally the opposite of ours. It's a well oiled machine. They score seemingly at will, and I'm not sure that the Browns can put up much of a fight, to be honest with you. I don't want to beat around the bush. That's just what it is. It is, you know?
Yeah, we suck. We aren't good. And the Browns come into this thing with a one in six record. Their season's basically over. They're coming off a devastating loss against the Bengals, and it was one of the worst feeling losses that I can remember. And the Cowboys game was seven weeks ago. The Giants game was five weeks ago. The Raiders game was four weeks ago. The Commanders game was three weeks ago. The Eagles game was two weeks ago.
Bronze fans are fucking superhuman. Like, how, how are we all still here?
They just continue to play poor, poorly everywhere, on and off the field, passing, rushing, blocking, defense, coaching, you name it. They don't do it well.
They don't do anything. Anything that would help them win a football game.
And they are by far the worst team in the league right now. And so now the easy part of your schedule is over. I put air quotes because the easy part of your schedule is the Cleveland Browns. But the easy part of your schedule schedule is over, and you're going to be playing a bunch of real football teams starting this week with the Ravens.
And again, they are very, very good.
[01:43:10] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, just think about that for a second, is that we just played our first division game, so we got the Ravens twice, the Steelers twice, and the Bengals one more time.
[01:43:18] Speaker B: Yeah. And the Bengals aren't good.
[01:43:20] Speaker A: They're not good, but they still beat us.
[01:43:22] Speaker B: Yeah. And so it's, this is all that to say that it's going to be a long, long day. Buckle up, Browns fans, because you, I named off all these painful losses that we've had the last several weeks.
[01:43:35] Speaker A: It's not going to go well.
[01:43:36] Speaker B: It's not going to be good. Kenny, you got betting info for us?
[01:43:41] Speaker A: Unfortunately, the Ravens enter Cleveland Brown Stadium is a nine and a half point favorite.
[01:43:49] Speaker B: Holy hell. That's going to be a approaching some sort of record.
[01:43:53] Speaker A: Over under on a game is 42 and a half.
[01:43:56] Speaker B: That's also low. Take the over. The Ravens will get it by themselves.
[01:43:59] Speaker A: Yeah, that's true.
[01:44:03] Speaker B: I don't think they'll get it by themselves, but they'll be close.
[01:44:05] Speaker A: They'll be darn close.
[01:44:06] Speaker B: I guess that's kind of where the over under comes from. They don't expect the Browns to score anything.
[01:44:10] Speaker A: They score 38, we score three.
[01:44:11] Speaker B: Yeah, fair.
[01:44:13] Speaker A: That's the under.
[01:44:14] Speaker B: So that'll take us to player to watch. Kenny, who's your player to watch this week?
[01:44:19] Speaker A: My player to watch is whoever's going to play quarterback for the Cleveland Browns. I don't know who it's going to be, but it's going to be somebody.
And if the Browns have any chance to win, any chance to ride the ship, it's going to be because whoever is playing quarterback provides some kind of spark that we haven't seen yet this year and turns this team around single handedly.
You know, Nick Chubb being back is going to help things, but at the end of the day, like, to be a team like Baltimore, you're going to have to score a bunch of points. And if the cornerback, if the quarterback doesn't throw for 300 yards and three touchdowns, you're probably just not going to be there.
[01:44:51] Speaker B: No, no. Bone, who you got?
[01:44:55] Speaker C: What do you do against Lamar? I don't know. So I'll say Miles Garrett. Hopefully he can contain them. And you'd say the same about Zitter Smith or J. Okay. Or are they going to have a quarterback spy? Whatever it is, but I'll stick with Miles.
[01:45:07] Speaker B: Miles Garrett's been a, a few weeks.
[01:45:08] Speaker C: Since we've had a sack, so, yeah, it'd be nice. Bring down a Lamar a couple times. I mean, he's going to be running around. So there, there's going to be opportunity to get there and are you going to be athletic enough to, to do it?
[01:45:19] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:45:20] Speaker A: Miles is, Miles is unfortunately fading into this like he's the best analytics football player on the planet. He wins his matchup 100% of the time, but at the end of the day, say he hasn't impacted the game in three weeks.
[01:45:37] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree.
[01:45:39] Speaker C: I think it's completely fair.
[01:45:41] Speaker B: Yep. My, my player to watch here, Nick Chubb, once again, just because he's got a, he's, he got the, we talked about his adrenaline was high in this game and it seemed like his patience and things like that weren't there because he was just trying to make the big play. He's trying to. He was pressing a little bit.
I want to see Nick Chubb after he's had a full week of practice. I mean, he's had plenty of weeks practice, but I mean, a full week of practice preparing for a game. He's got all the jitters out. He's just kind of ready to go. I'm sure that even with the limited carries that he got last week, he's got a lot more confidence in that knee. He was hit several times. He actually had some big hits delivered to him in terms of what we usually see Nick Chubb absorb.
[01:46:24] Speaker A: Well, yeah, that's going to be one of the big questions. Right. Is Nick Chubb was one of the best in the NFL, yards after contact and does he is able to maintain that? Does he have the confidence. Confidence to still be that back?
[01:46:33] Speaker B: Yeah. And so I have Nick Chubb. Just because the season's shot at this point, I want to see is, is the Nick Chubb. Is Nick Chubb going to be able to return to Nick Chubb?
And so I'm going to be watching him closely and even if he doesn't have the biggest game because they do have the best rush defense and our offensive line is ass, I just want to see kind of how he plays and how he looks more than anything.
[01:46:57] Speaker A: So you're sexually attracted to him? Sure. You want to see how he looks?
[01:47:02] Speaker B: Yep.
[01:47:04] Speaker A: You like him that way?
[01:47:06] Speaker B: He's good.
[01:47:07] Speaker A: You like him? Like him.
You want to marry him?
[01:47:10] Speaker B: If you like him so much, why don't you marry him?
[01:47:12] Speaker A: That's right. That's what I'm saying.
[01:47:13] Speaker B: I don't know. Maybe, maybe give me a call. Nick Chubb.
But with that, I want to do another interview. Kenny, I'm in.
[01:47:21] Speaker A: Who talking to you next?
[01:47:22] Speaker B: We're going to be talking to a friend of the show as a surprise in just a minute.
[01:47:26] Speaker A: Oh, okay.
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[01:47:41] Speaker B: Alright, so before we go any further in the show, I want to bring on a very special guest. This interview is going to be part of the dog talk interview series. Originally, we plan to use that series for people who are covering the Brown, but I think what I want to do is I want to expand this a little bit and also include super fans and personalities that live, breathe, and bleed orange and brown, because obviously those guys are dogs, too. So, guys and girls. So with that, let's welcome Brown, superfan and friend of the show, brownstranaut.
[01:48:16] Speaker E: Oh, man.
[01:48:17] Speaker B: How are you? How are you? Thanks for joining us.
[01:48:20] Speaker E: Good. Very good. This is the most excited I've been in a few weeks now, but, you know, we're here.
[01:48:25] Speaker B: Is it safe to say that burning river sports cast gets you more excited than the Browns?
[01:48:30] Speaker E: Yes. Yeah.
[01:48:33] Speaker B: That's coming from a superfan. I feel good right now. Yeah, I feel good.
[01:48:36] Speaker E: Less expensive to.
[01:48:40] Speaker B: But now, before we get into football, I understand that you just recently have gone through a huge life event. Can you tell everybody the big news?
[01:48:47] Speaker E: Yeah. So, October 13, three minutes till kickoff. I had my first child, got a daughter on the way, thinking her name is Delilah, but I'm thinking d Dog. D Dog.
[01:48:59] Speaker B: I like it. I like it.
[01:49:01] Speaker E: Jersey mixed up. So, yeah, she saved me from the Eagles game. And then, you know, Sunday, I just focused on her about halftime, you know.
[01:49:08] Speaker B: Say, there you go.
[01:49:09] Speaker A: Congratulations.
[01:49:10] Speaker E: Yeah, she's been sweet.
[01:49:12] Speaker B: So you've had a daughter just over a week, and it's already paying dividends 100%. Yeah. So, I mean, like, like I said, you are a browns super fan, and you kind of built this Persona, this brownstrant Persona. Can you tell us your story and how you became brownstrant?
[01:49:33] Speaker E: Yeah, so, honestly, pretty simple. I used to, or actually went up to. I went up to Halloween one year, the year before I got my season tickets. This was the year before the Odell trade, dressed as an astronaut. Not, I had the full, you know, had the helmet. I had the suit and, uh, you know, first time.
[01:49:50] Speaker B: Show that helmet a little bit. I want. I want to see, like, put down for sure.
[01:49:54] Speaker E: So I got brown not on there. Uh, fan gave me this space brown sticker. Um, got the QR code there. So it's, uh, it's a little decked. I'll do lights for the night game. And it's, uh, you can't see anything through it, uh, which is awesome. So here, constantly, I'm ripping this up and just peeking it through.
But, yeah, so I had the outfit the day before. I just kind of was cleaning out the closet, made the decision like, hey, I'm going to wear this. This will be fun. It's all orange, you know, let's rock it. And then just the feedback was awesome between fans, kids, you know, everyone was loving, everyone's taking pictures. So I started out super gluing patches, which cost me about a $100 that game in lost patches. So, yeah, I had, I had just was working on a jean jacket, so a bunch of patches left over. So put the suit on, build it, and it's just kind of grown from there. You know, just meeting awesome people and, you know, just getting into, you know, the superfan Persona has just been awesome. There's a lot of cool people in the, in the space.
[01:50:54] Speaker B: Yeah. And so, I mean, obviously, I've seen you at games. I've seen you on the jumbotron. So tell us, tell us a little bit about that. Like, how'd you manage to get on the jumbo truck? Obviously, around the stadium, they'll probably panda occasionally, but I'm talking. And this was like, for, you know, promotional videos that they put on at the beginning of the game to get everybody pumped up. How'd you make it onto one of those?
[01:51:17] Speaker E: Yeah, it was definitely cool. So my main two places, I tailgate, normally the start of Muni lot there with all the big suv's and, you know, buses and west six, which, you know, rest in peace to them. But so they normally, before the browns are up there, just looking for people to stick out, people to get fired up and just, again, right place, right time. A couple of the camera guys know me from just previous photos and, you know, videos along the line. So a few adult beverages in. I was pretty fired up and, you know, beat on my chest a little bit, beat on my head and, you know, made on the jumbotron.
[01:51:50] Speaker B: Nice. I like that. Just a Browns fan being a Browns fan and out there doing its thing. So.
No, that's awesome.
[01:51:58] Speaker A: And where does one find an orange astronaut costume?
[01:52:05] Speaker B: Like, it's a normal thing. I thought they were white.
[01:52:07] Speaker E: It's google. I mean, you literally, you can find this exact helmet, the outfit. I mean, it's just, you know, just customizing and personalizing and finding those patches from different companies. Different people have reached out to me and sent me some or, you know, like ilfy. I followed ilfy for forever. Now I got their patch on here, and, you know, they reached out, shot me some patches and stickers. And slow care packages here and there. So just representing the people that I like and, you know, that's awesome.
[01:52:35] Speaker B: Well, I can get a patch for you if you'd like.
[01:52:38] Speaker E: I'll shoot it my way, dude.
[01:52:39] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. But, no, I think it's just. It's just really cool. And, you know, I like that your story is. It was just so organic. I was just. I had this laying around. I decided to do it. I thought coming into this, just to be honest with you, I'm like, well, the space, you know, the whatever, the space that NASA has, like, a thing downtown. So I'm like, is this tied to NASA? Like, was he working with NASA?
[01:53:03] Speaker A: Maybe. You're a real estate.
[01:53:06] Speaker E: I know everybody. I am, though. You know everybody that asked me. Yes, I just got back from the moon twice, you know?
[01:53:15] Speaker A: Twice.
[01:53:15] Speaker E: Yeah, it's been a good time. I actually always salute. Leave a muni lot. I always give a nice salute to the research center right there.
[01:53:22] Speaker B: Nice, kind of, yeah, that's just awesome. And I mean, with that, with that mustache you're rocking right now, you look kind of like an astronaut. It looks official.
[01:53:33] Speaker E: Yeah, it's sick.
[01:53:35] Speaker B: Yeah, but that's awesome. Like I said, it was just a Browns fan. Being a Browns fan, but being that you just became a father, I know you said, I'm not sure if we mentioned it on air yet. I know we talked about a little bit off air. You weren't at the game this past week. You were at home helping take care of baby, which is good on you. You didn't miss a lot. It was pretty awful. I was there. It wasn't that much fun. It was sort of confusing most of the game. But I want to ask you specifically on Nick Chubb's return, how did that make you feel, being at home watching it and seeing a guy that we've all been waiting for come back?
[01:54:15] Speaker E: Just his return in general is just awesome. Brings. Brings so much to the team. He's such a class act, you know, I mean, on and off the field, he's just a guy that puts his head down.
You know, he's starting to open up a little more, which is cool with his, his new article out. And he just seems to be, you know, I don't want to say a full leadership role, but just opening up and letting people in. You know, he's been through, you know, two different knee injuries, and I think it's, you know, it's changed him and, you know, just got him. Got him ready for the season and mentally, right, which is just awesome. It's sad. Our o line is where it's at. I mean, they played a little better Sunday, but he's the guy to get it done. You know, he's the guy that bring the energy and, you know, if anyone's going to do it, I'm hoping he's comeback player of the year, honestly.
[01:54:58] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[01:54:59] Speaker A: That'd be great.
[01:55:00] Speaker B: And kind of on the flip side of things, you know, Deshaun Watson, since he's been here, really has kind of divided this fan base as far as feelings towards him. And obviously he went down. We've since it's just really, it just got confirmed. Everybody kind of knew it was a ruptured achilles when it happened, just from the video. And so what are your thoughts around that? I mean, obviously there was some things that happened when he went down. There were some fans cheering, mixed reaction, mixed reactions. What are your thoughts about all that?
[01:55:32] Speaker E: Yeah, I mean, it's like you said, the fan base is just, it's torn half. I mean, you have the people that, you know, are rooting for him and has vouched for him, you know, for on and off the field stuff, his play, different accusations. You know, when someone's on your team like that, you're always going to try to support them, you know, and, you know, the back of our heads, it's, is he a good guy, is he a bad guy? And I think a lot of that cheering is kind of where that stemmed from. Hopefully just, just, you know, putting that kind of in the past, I think everybody was just lingering on us, you know, all the money, all the picks, the off the field stuff, you know, and just, I mean, we're always going to root for our guys, I think, you know, for my seats, my seats are in the 500s. I'm row two. But, you know, if something happened to him and I've been feeling this type of way, and I'm not saying that's how I do feel, but I'm going to cheer for change.
You know, I'm never going to cheer for someone's season being over or, you know, him being done and never playing again for us or, you know, his job being over, but it's so I wouldn't be able see that, you know, and I'm not saying I would have cheered or not cheered, but it would have been one of those things again where it's just, you know, hey, I'm ready for some change. It feels like a lot of people ready for change. And even if it was just for the game, you know, a rolled ankle or something like that. Just. Just bring somebody in, bring some energy in. And, you know, I wasn't there to hear the booze or the cheers, but I heard they were pretty, pretty egregious.
[01:57:00] Speaker B: It was. It was intense. I was there. And at the beginning of the game, we talked about this on our live show Sunday night at the beginning of the game, during player introductions. It was. That was actually the moment that I was like, this is getting to a pretty insane point just as far as the franchise goes and what's happening, because Deshaun Watson got introduced right before Nick Chubb, and it was, like, deafening booze. Like, the loudest negative reaction I heard to a player ever coming out of the tunnel.
And, like, the boos were louder for Deshaun Watson before the game than they were for the Bengals coming out of their tunnel.
And then literally a second later, they go into the promo videos for Nick Chubb and he's returning, and they announced Nick Chubb, and it was the loudest reaction I've ever heard in a positive way for a player coming out of the tunnel. And I was. I was just floored. I was like, this is. This is insane. Like, this is bad. This is worse than people who don't go to the games. No, because you don't hear that unless you're in the stadium.
[01:57:59] Speaker A: Yeah. I think it's clearly, though, there was a lot of pent up frustration, I think, just with a. Fans that wanted to see a quarterback change made. I mean, I think that's. I think that's a lot of it. I think fans were more so cheering for the fact that we had an opportunity for change. Not necessarily. I'm sure there were some. Probably some vicious people in there that were just happy to see him hurt. But I think a lot of it, probably with the mixed reaction, was people were excited for an opportunity to see somebody else run that offense, especially, you.
[01:58:26] Speaker E: Know, the guards wrapping up, the way they wrapped up, you know, just, just. Just a bad time for Cleveland sports. People are. People are upset. All the expectations coming into this year and just seeing how things played out, it's just, again, people are just, people are ready. They're ready with their pitchforks and they're ready to roll, you know, good or bad. And that's just, that's just, that's when it comes to Browns fans, they'll. They'll die with you, but they'll, they'll stab you in the back if they can. You know, like, they're just so savage, man. They're they're. They're just crazy.
[01:58:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
[01:58:56] Speaker A: We had talked about, you know, Tim couch suffered the same fate right way back when he broke his leg and they cheered him off the field.
[01:59:02] Speaker E: Yeah.
[01:59:02] Speaker A: It's been done before.
[01:59:04] Speaker B: And I will say this to Brown's fans credit, I still think we're the best fans in the world. I know everybody on Twitter was talking about all Browns fans should be embarrassed or I'm embarrassed to be a Browns fan and all this stuff when people cheered after Deshawn. But to your point and what you just said, they'll ride or die with you if you're playing well, and even when you're not necessarily playing well, they'll ride or die with you if they're one of your guys. Until they reach that point that they're fed up. And to the Browns fans credit, they will let, you know, they'll let, they'll let ownership, they'll let coaches know when they are fed up with somebody. And I think it had just reached that point, unfortunately, with Deshawn.
[01:59:46] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:59:47] Speaker B: So, but with these two developments, where do you think this season is heading from here?
[01:59:54] Speaker E: So, I mean, just looking at. Looking at next week with the Baltimore game, DTR, is the finger injury. What I hope to see, I hope that we start Jamus and just see if there is that Flacco, you know, lightning in a bottle type. You know, he just absolutely lights it up. Especially, you know, with the finger injury. We lose this game, though. I think it's DTR time just to see. To see what's left. Left. I don't know if, you know, there's. There's rumors about trading Winston and, you know, even other players. I don't know if you guys are going to touch on that, but I think they're going to, they're going to sell, you know, a few pieces and, you know, and rack up those picks, which, which I don't blame them. I mean, this is, this is going to hurt the organization for years to come, you know, with, with this DeShawn contract money and picks and all that stuff. So I see them grabbing as many assets as they can. I'm hoping, hoping we keep, you know, the miles and the ward and the chubb and the, you know, even, even Cory Behorquis, you know, he's, he's a baller, but just hoping we keep those core pieces, man, and sell off what we have and start this restart.
[02:01:00] Speaker B: Yeah, I will say a little silver lining. The browns do have insurance against DeShawn Watson injury. So that was something that they were able to recoup a little bit or.
[02:01:10] Speaker A: They'Re going to be a looking forward a little bit. Obviously, you kind of alluded to the fact that it probably looks like the Browns are in stockpile mode for draft picks here. Do you have any early inclinations on anybody you'd like to see in orange and Brown and Ashton Genty shooter Sanders, Kim Ward? Anybody in particular?
[02:01:32] Speaker E: Not particular. I think they're going to end up trading down and getting more picks, but O line. O line, o line. You know, obviously we have to figure out the QB situation, but, you know, using or losing our O line coach was, was huge. You know, I don't know if it's the discipline or if it's just the skill set of, you know, who's coaching now. It just seems that they worked harder for him and, you know, they just, they just got it done. This year just looks completely different. So o line and of course they're going to grab a QB. They have to.
[02:02:04] Speaker B: Absolutely. And score prediction for this week since that's right around the corner.
[02:02:09] Speaker E: Come on. I'm not ready to hurt yet.
Let me go. I'll go. 1324 ravens.
[02:02:17] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah, I like that you're not afraid to pick the Browns to lose because we've, we've finally gotten to the point this, like, we try and be optimistic as much as possible. We, we've gotten to the point where we're like, they're not a good team.
[02:02:28] Speaker A: We've been on the air for three years, right. So we, we kind of started this podcast while the Browns were playing really relatively well. Then we've finally hit that point now where back to kind of the old Browns, we're starting to see people go, all right, I can't just pick the Browns to win every week.
[02:02:43] Speaker E: Yeah, my hope is just destroyed. I mean, we just, we got to be realistic and, you know, swallow our pride and, you know, just figure out what we got to do. I mean, I'm hoping Winston goes up there and, you know, throws, you know, three, four touchdowns and, you know, a couple hundred yards and probably an interception with it, but we'll see. Man, these guys got to catch the ball. We got to stop with all these penalties and putting ourselves in bad situations. I mean, there's just, there's so much more to, you know, just swapping out a quarterback. Everyone, you know, thinks that, you know, one guy's going to be the difference. There's, there's a ton of lingering issues. So I think Winston gets the, what gets the start and then if we. If we lose, hopefully it's DTR. And just seeing. Seeing what's there, you know what I mean? He needs time.
The day after my wedding, I went to the Ravens game. Uh, that was the only home game we lost last year. I worked. I worked for months to get the wife to go to that game the night after our wedding, and family was there, and it was just miserable. So, um, I liked the kid.
[02:03:40] Speaker B: She was like, this is why. I know. This is why I don't listen to you. Oh, yeah.
[02:03:44] Speaker E: Her family's across the stadium. You give me this.
But, uh, yeah, I mean, I. I was also there to. To kind of go against that for the. The Holocaust of fame game here at Canton. You know, we were ready to leave at halftime, and I was like, just, you know, see what's going to happen. He gets out there, and just. The energy was completely different. You know, it seems that he, you know, even for being how young he is, he seems like a good leader. It seems, you know, like the team wants to go around him. I love the rushing ability, and I think he just needs time. I mean, it's not going to hurt if we're one in seven and we lose Sunday. Just. Just to give him some time, man.
[02:04:20] Speaker A: You know, it's funny you brought up the hall of fame game because that was one of the things I remember to my. One of my takeaways from that game was maturity level in. In simple things, right? It was on handoffs where he would finish kind of the. You take off and run like you still had the ball, like the, like, like, you know, going through with your fakes and things. Like, those are things you don't often see a rookie on day one have. And I felt like he just showed a very high level of maturity out the gate because it was. He was doing all the little things. When a guy fumbled near the goal line, picked him up, was like, hey, I got you. So I think you're right. I think there's some untapped potential there. I mean, I'm interested to see what happens with DTR, but obviously, we probably need to figure out sooner rather than later so that we know what we're doing in the draft.
[02:05:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
[02:05:06] Speaker E: And we have to see, that's just. I'm not thinking that he's the solution to everything based off what we've seen or even statistics, but he has that grit, he has that rushing ability. You know, the team seems to be around him enough, so you just have to see, you know, if. If we land a purdy awesome. If not, you know, we see what we have here.
[02:05:26] Speaker B: Yeah. So let's switch gears a little bit here. I want to switch from present to future.
One of the things that's come out around this, I've seen the meme, the best meme that came out for this is it lists all the problems that the Browns are having right now, and it's the flex Seal thing, and Jimmy Haslam slaps a $2.4 billion stadium on it. So, you know, what are your thoughts about the stadium and the fact that they have announced that they want to move forward with this decision to move to Brook park? Do you like the move? Do you not like to move?
You probably have a little bit different perspective than most because you're in that warm and cozy astronaut suit, so the weather doesn't affect you as much. So just want to hear what you think.
[02:06:12] Speaker E: So, I mean, so many pros and cons. Let's talk about week, week one or two, and it's 90 degrees and I'm in this sweatsuit. I mean, you know, a dome. A dome evens it out. Winter is awesome. But, you know, when it. When it. When it comes to the move, I mean, ultimately, there's a billionaire that has billions of money and loves to spend it. He's going to get a dome. You know, he wants to have his hand in everything. Parking events, I mean, outside of brown stuff. He wants to have, you know, he just wants to grow, man. That's what they're all about, you know, losing muni lot and, you know, losing that. That breeze off the lake, the flyovers, you know, that. That's going to be such a heartbreak for me.
And more importantly, you know, if I had a chance to talk to Haslam, it's. You can't price out the average fans. You know, that's. That's going to be such a big thing. I mean, you watch that Yankee Yankees game and, you know, there's. There's open seats. People can't even afford to go, and he can't. He can't do that. You know, that's. I mean, I hope. I hope he doesn't. You know, I mean, even though my season tickets are. They keep going up, you know, the team seems like it's in a rebuild, hopefully get a discount next year, but it's. That's what worries me the most. If I had one chance to tell him, hey, don't. Don't price this out. Don't make 80. $80 parking, you know, don't rack these tickets up to four grand for the year. I mean, it's hard for me to have someone come to the Baltimore game with me Sunday. So just think about the fans.
[02:07:42] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely.
[02:07:44] Speaker A: That's my biggest fear as well. Average fans being priced out because, you know, they're going to increase the prices, but it's got to be something palatable.
[02:07:51] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And not that this makes you feel any better because you're still losing the Muni lot at the end of the day, but the Muni lot was part of the redevelopment of the lakefront plan. So the rumor was even if they stayed on the lake, the Muni lot was actually going get absorbed by those plans and be gone anyways.
[02:08:11] Speaker E: Nice.
[02:08:12] Speaker B: So, I mean, not again, not that it makes feel better, but we were all losing the Muni lot anyways. So it just kind of, to me, that portion of it was just kind of. It's going to suck regardless.
[02:08:23] Speaker E: Yeah. I just wonder. I wonder how, you know, quote unquote corporate, it will get, I mean, look at west six getting shut down and, you know, pumpkinheads had that going for. For 1015 years, you know what I mean? And they're already you. You know, the police are shutting that down and, you know, Munilot is truly savage. I mean, you can get away and do a lot of crazy things there. So I think, you know, under Haslam, Haslam security, whatever, you know, every. His name is gonna be on everything. So I just worry they're gonna really lock it down and not give us that, that wild freedom that we love as Brownstein.
[02:08:55] Speaker A: Although maybe this paves the way for Brownster, not tailgate.
[02:08:59] Speaker E: I mean, that's, that's. That's the goal, man. That's the goal.
[02:09:03] Speaker B: Well, I was gonna say, I actually think with the new stadium, I think kind of the route that I envision this taking, and I don't have any. This isn't like I've heard things or anything. I don't know anybody. But what I see them doing is actually making one of the closer lots to the stadium, the quote unquote muni lot.
[02:09:22] Speaker A: It's gonna have to be. Yeah.
[02:09:23] Speaker B: Yeah. And they're gonna make that happen. Invite people like yourself, like the Muni lot, browns backers, invite those groups in and then maybe give west six tailgate, give them their own parking lot on the other side of the stadium or whatever it is, to do their own thing. Cause I know the size of theirs. It's hard to have that in the munilot itself.
[02:09:44] Speaker A: So are you talking about being involved in the community and asking community leaders for input, because that sounds crazy talk.
[02:09:53] Speaker B: That's how I envision it going. But I'm not a billionaire. I don't know. I don't know what billionaires do. We're being all billionaires do. Yeah, but no, so, I mean, overall, though, were you for the move or against the move, I guess, is the question.
[02:10:07] Speaker E: I'm excited to see something new, you know, especially. I mean, we're. Again, this is. This is rebuild time, you know, unless. Unless we land something crazy and, you know, we can. We can help miles and chubb and, you know, ward these guys finishing up their careers and, you know, do something cool for them. But I think it's. I think it's rebuild time. A dome, the older I get, feels pretty cool, you know, just entering, you know, something that can host a Super bowl, something that can host, you know, giant concerts and, you know, not to worry about weather. Yeah, I mean, I. I'm still split, but if I had to make a decision. Yeah, it's time. It's time for something new.
[02:10:48] Speaker B: Well, you've got a young daughter now, so think about how easy it'll want.
[02:10:51] Speaker A: To go to Taylor Swift.
[02:10:52] Speaker B: D dog will want to go see Taylor Swift. And if she's going to a Browns game in December, she's going to want it to be inside. So, listen, one final question for you that I have. We had pumpkinhead on last week talking about the west six tailgate getting shut down. Obviously, another Brown super fan. We're working on getting that back. I mean, I think burning over sportscasts, personally might. Might bring back the west six tailgate. We might make it happen, but no, we're working on getting that reinstated, and hopefully he's able to continue tailgating later this season.
But again, another brown superfan. You're a brown superfan. Do you guys have, like, a brown superfan convention where you all meet up in costume and, like, hang out and, like, do cool things?
[02:11:38] Speaker E: Yeah. Yeah. They need to get us macho fan, you know, get. Get us all together.
It would be awesome, you know, especially with the. You know, with the new plans. You know, it'd be sweet to have us up front and, you know, people come take pictures and, you know, maybe do some donation work and, you know, things. Things along that line would be awesome. But no, I mean, Gus himself, he's been awesome. You know, I bounce back between there muni lot, depending on the weather. So it'd be nice to get us all together and get things rocking.
[02:12:09] Speaker A: It'd be like the Browns event, avengers.
[02:12:12] Speaker B: Yeah, I like that. We got Brownstrand, and I don't know how you fit that into avengers, but. Yeah, it's a mouthful, you know?
No, listen, brownstranaut, Mister Knott, it's been incredible having you on. We really appreciate your time. We hope to have you on again in the future.
Just to talk some more talk updates for the Browns. Maybe when the stadium comes or before it comes as.
[02:12:39] Speaker A: This is just a real chill guy, like, I feel like we should all hang out.
[02:12:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[02:12:45] Speaker E: Yeah.
[02:12:45] Speaker B: Come kick it.
[02:12:45] Speaker E: I'm right here. I'm right here by the hall of Fame. So come say what's up.
[02:12:48] Speaker B: Someday we won't have to call you Brownstrand. We'll be on like a, like a name basis. Like. Yeah, yeah.
Not now, though.
[02:12:56] Speaker E: Mister knot works for now. But I got a mustache. I deserve a mister, you know?
[02:13:00] Speaker B: Yeah, with that stash, you definitely deserve the mister.
But no, again, great having you on. Really appreciate it, and we'll talk again soon.
[02:13:11] Speaker E: Thank you, Ronnie. Thank you, Kenny.
[02:13:13] Speaker A: Appreciate it.
[02:13:18] Speaker E: I'm Brown chennaut. You're listening to burning river sportscast. Go, Brown.
[02:13:26] Speaker B: Man. A good time talking to Brownstranht, huh?
[02:13:28] Speaker A: Brownstrant was cool. Very down to earth, very. Just chill. Dude. Just hanging out his black lights and being an astronaut.
[02:13:35] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I just like that he. It was literally just. I'm gonna put this on one day.
[02:13:41] Speaker A: Great mustache. Oh, top notch.
[02:13:44] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. Look, looking straight out of Reno 911.
[02:13:47] Speaker A: And I like the fact that he called bone caveman before he came on the air.
[02:13:50] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He had notes. Kenny has glasses. Ronnie's the other guy or whatever he said about me. And no glasses. Glasses. No glasses caveman. Yeah, for bone.
[02:14:00] Speaker E: Yeah.
[02:14:00] Speaker C: I really appreciate.
That was one of the better compliments I've ever received.
[02:14:04] Speaker B: Yeah. Nice.
But, yeah, I mean, I thought he did a good job of explaining kind of, how fans feel with everything going on with the Browns right now.
[02:14:15] Speaker A: Yeah, no, that was a thoughtful dude. I'm glad we had him on. I mean, sometimes you never know what you're going to get with fans. I mean, that was the guy that pays attention and was thoughtful, and it was a good interview.
[02:14:25] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. But with that, let's go ahead and get gassed up.
It's that time again, boys.
[02:14:39] Speaker A: It's time to get gas.
[02:14:40] Speaker B: It's time to get gassed up right now.
[02:14:42] Speaker A: I got a shit so bad.
[02:14:44] Speaker B: Oh.
[02:14:47] Speaker C: He is gassed it.
[02:14:49] Speaker B: All right, well, I guess we'll start with you so you can get out of here. Kenny, what's getting you gassed up.
[02:14:54] Speaker A: Oh, we're going with me first.
[02:14:55] Speaker B: I wasn't kidding.
[02:14:56] Speaker A: Okay. I'll tell you what's got me guessed up this week.
You ever had a hot pocket?
[02:15:04] Speaker B: Yeah. They're so fucking hot, they just burned the roof of your mouth so bad.
[02:15:10] Speaker A: That's true, too. Hot pocket has been a favorite snack of mine since I was little.
You know, it was one of those, like, the first foods you kind of learn how to cook as a young adolescent. Like, you get off the bus and you can throw it, microwave, pop it in two minutes. You have a. You have a snack.
[02:15:24] Speaker B: I'm over here laughing at myself because I'm just.
[02:15:27] Speaker A: You're so funny.
[02:15:27] Speaker B: No, I'm just. I'm just mixing up jingles in my head. I was like, hot pocket doll on the farm.
[02:15:33] Speaker A: That's not how it goes.
[02:15:34] Speaker B: No.
[02:15:35] Speaker A: Anyways, hot pockets got me gassed up because my wife recently bought me some hot pockets.
[02:15:40] Speaker B: Oh, nice wife.
[02:15:41] Speaker A: I would have something to eat during the day.
[02:15:42] Speaker B: I haven't had a hot pockets.
[02:15:43] Speaker A: I don't know when, for quick lunches. And, um. God, I gotta tell you, like, hot pocket, you're doing too much, man. I don't know if you've had a hot pocket recently, but the crust, you're.
[02:15:54] Speaker B: Doing too much, bro.
[02:15:55] Speaker A: The crust on a hot pocket today is not the crust I grew up with. You know, it just used to be like a crepey, buttery crust, and you just let the inside speak for itself. Nowadays, these hot pockets got, it's like a fucking sort of subway bread. It's got herbs and spices. They're trying to church this thing up and gourmet out. I'm like, you're a hot pocket.
Be a hot pocket.
[02:16:18] Speaker B: Just be a hot pocket.
[02:16:20] Speaker A: I don't need herbs and spices in my hot pocket. I want something I could throw in a microwave for two minutes. It comes out piping hot, burns the fuck out of my mouth, and tastes remotely like a piece of pizza. Like, that's it. I don't expect anything more out of a hot pocket. I don't need you to be gourmet. I'm not making you for dinner when a friends come over and I need a quick snack that tastes kind of like what's on the box. Yeah, that's it.
[02:16:42] Speaker B: Yeah. This is the funniest description of a hot pocket I ever. It just tastes kind of like what's on the box. Yeah, but I mean, it's 100% true.
[02:16:50] Speaker A: It doesn't gotta taste actually like a cheeseburger or pizza but, like, if you.
[02:16:53] Speaker B: Get close, I can see where you're going.
[02:16:54] Speaker A: I give you points for that.
[02:16:55] Speaker B: Yeah, but I don't need you to.
[02:16:56] Speaker A: Church it up with all these extra spices and herbs. Like, you're a hot pocket. Just be a hot pocket.
Man, I was just so gassed up about this.
[02:17:06] Speaker B: Sounds like it just pissed me off.
[02:17:08] Speaker A: Cause I was like, what happened to the good old days? It's just hot pocket. The bread on the outside tastes like nothing. I get some cheese and some sauce in the middle, and I'm like, that almost tastes like pizza. Delicious.
That's it. That's what I'm guessed.
[02:17:23] Speaker B: You're pretty guessed up, bone. You got anything for us?
[02:17:26] Speaker C: All right, well, before we started this segment, I didn't have one, but I've been sitting here thinking, and so before I came over, I was kind of watching my girls. My wife worked a little bit later, and this week they're not allowed to get on and play games with their friends. This week, they get on calls with their friends and they do, like, these role plays and stuff. I don't know. They're young girls and they have a good time and they're interacting with their friends, and it's safe. They're only allowed to talk to them and blah, blah, blah. But there's been some issues, so we're like, you guys aren't doing that this week? All right, so. And there's this old iPhone that we have that they use to speak to these said girls, and there was like a thousand messages coming through, and I'm just listening to this iPhone, ding, ding, ding.
And I couldn't figure out how to turn the thing off, and I was going crazy, and my iPhone's stupid. And I had my first iPhone. I've had it for about a year, and it's a hand me down, and it's old, and the silent feature on it, you can't put it on vibrate, and it pisses me off. And the only way you can put it to silent is if you turn the whole.
And I hate it. And I may not know what I'm doing or what, but it should be simpler than this.
[02:18:36] Speaker B: It's different.
[02:18:38] Speaker C: I just can't hit the side, the button on the side, the down toggle to turn the phone off. It's all the way on silent, and yet it's still dings, dings, dings. Unless I individually go into that conversation and turn it off, I just can't make it vibrate on its own.
[02:18:56] Speaker A: Phone got boomered by an iPhone between you and bone.
[02:19:01] Speaker B: I didn't like. It's amazing that we run a multimedia.
[02:19:05] Speaker C: Any other fun I've ever had. I was able to just turn it on, vibrate right from the side. And this phone doesn't allow me to do that.
[02:19:10] Speaker B: Oh, my God.
[02:19:11] Speaker C: It doesn't.
[02:19:12] Speaker B: He's getting so gassed up right now. I hope you put the video just of his face, like, that last sentence. He was just so furious.
[02:19:22] Speaker A: I would get me gassed up.
[02:19:24] Speaker C: Maybe it's that noise everybody has, and I have it.
[02:19:27] Speaker B: You start texting me, you're in a.
[02:19:29] Speaker C: Room of three or ten people, and you hear that ding. Everybody checks their phone because it's all the same ringtone, stupid.
And I have it.
I should change that.
[02:19:44] Speaker B: Oh, my God.
I don't even know how to follow that up. Oh, God.
[02:19:50] Speaker C: I'm glad I came up with something because I had nothing. Literally, like, a minute ago, you came.
[02:19:55] Speaker B: Up with a good one. Listen, guys, what's getting me guessed up? Originally, I had Browns fans on here because they're all just fighting with each other against pissing me off. But I'm gonna lay off of that one. Cause I've done Browns fans, I think, like, three times already.
So my guest up this week is gonna be leaves.
And what do I mean by that? Your leaves fall. And not so much my neighborhood anymore, which, thankfully, but the neighborhood I used to be in. I was thinking this. I was like, God, I'm gonna have to go out and start cleaning up leaves soon. Who the fuck cares if my leaves get cleaned up? Like, seriously, what's the point? They're actually really good for your lawn, first off and second off. Like, they're good for a lot of other things. And who the fuck cares?
Like, why do I have to clean up my leaves? Because you want my lawn to look nice. I'll be honest with you. I used to be really meticulous about how my lawn looked. I want it to be perfect all the time. I don't give a shit. Now I have a kid. I don't have time for that.
[02:20:54] Speaker C: Yeah.
[02:20:54] Speaker B: So I'm just like. And it just doesn't matter to me. So I'm just like, I don't care that you think my lawn looks bad. Like, go stand in your own lawn. Shut the fuck up.
[02:21:05] Speaker A: No, I actually agree with you. That's one of the. That was one of the things that bothers me the most about fall is this idea that, like, leaves are bad.
[02:21:13] Speaker B: Like, they're not.
[02:21:15] Speaker A: They're not. They're good. They're actually good for the ecosystem of the yard.
[02:21:18] Speaker B: There's a ton of insects, insects that kill things like mosquitoes and other things that they. They nest in there. And you need them for the ecosystem to keep fucking going.
They're good for your grass or fertilizer. Tons of nitrogen with your clean lawn and get that. No.
[02:21:35] Speaker C: Do you grind them up with your lawn mower? You just leave them?
[02:21:38] Speaker B: I just leave them, yeah. So I just. I just mow over. And once I'm done mowing for the year because the grass ain't growing no more, guess what? Please sit there. You know, when they get cleaned up is what. Whatever's left over in the spring is. I just get them at that root. Yeah, you just mow over them and they turn into mulch. And guess what? The grass turns fucking fantastic.
[02:21:57] Speaker C: I struggle with this because my neighbor will be like, he'll make comments like, oh, yeah, all your leaves blowing to my yard and this and that. And he literally says something daily, cleaning up leaves every day.
[02:22:05] Speaker B: You should tell him that he should smoke some weed.
Stop giving a shit. Like, why are you so upset about leaves?
[02:22:12] Speaker C: I'm a big fan. Fan of them blowing out of my yard. So I like that to happen.
[02:22:16] Speaker B: You should turn into the guy that blows leaves into his yard with your leaf blower.
[02:22:20] Speaker C: He's too helpful of a neighbor. I couldn't do that.
[02:22:22] Speaker B: Like, like Mike Ditka and screen kicking and screaming. Like, I got 30 minutes and I got to get these leaves into his yard.
[02:22:30] Speaker A: I just don't understand where that came from. Like, where did this idea come from that we have to get rid of the leaves? Like, in. In nature, in the wilderness, deciduous trees shed their leaves in the fall.
[02:22:40] Speaker B: They guess what? You don't see the ground all summer long, leaves, because they fucking disappeared.
[02:22:48] Speaker A: Like, it's part of the natural cycle of light. Like, we always do this thing. Like, you can't just eradicate all the mosquitoes because then the bats wouldn't have anything to eat. Like, your lawn eats the leaves.
[02:23:00] Speaker B: It just. Just pisses me off. I was kind of in the same boat as bone. I was gonna, like, I said I was gonna go with something else, and then. And I realized I haven't talked about leaves before.
[02:23:08] Speaker A: Leaves really pissing me off.
[02:23:10] Speaker B: Just all these people. And all the people that talk about clearing your leaves seem to be so high and mighty, like, oh, you didn't clean up your leaves?
[02:23:18] Speaker A: I have no leaves in my yard.
[02:23:19] Speaker B: Do you have no pride? Like, shut the fuck up.
[02:23:25] Speaker A: I'd rather engage my kid and teach him everything in the world that he needs to know.
[02:23:29] Speaker B: Yeah. Instead of cleaning up leaves, like, good job, dead big dad. Cleaning up leaves.
[02:23:35] Speaker C: It's like a dark turn.
[02:23:37] Speaker B: Sorry.
[02:23:37] Speaker A: He could get outside and throw a football into leaves.
[02:23:39] Speaker B: Yeah, shut up. Anyways, that'll take us to king of the north.
All right, Kenny, usually you love this part, but it's not as bad today because you're not as bad today.
[02:24:01] Speaker A: Thank you.
[02:24:02] Speaker B: In case anyone doesn't know by now, this is our year long AFC north pick em competition. At the end of the season, whoever comes in last place gets punished.
[02:24:09] Speaker A: Punished?
[02:24:09] Speaker B: In the preseason last year, Kenny had a gross of eggs thrown at him by fans in the Muni lot.
[02:24:13] Speaker A: We're still gonna do this in the preseason.
[02:24:15] Speaker B: This year, Kenny had his entire head of hair and beard shaved clean off.
[02:24:19] Speaker A: Still doing it.
[02:24:20] Speaker B: How'd it feel? Both of those things, how they feel?
[02:24:23] Speaker A: They were fun.
[02:24:24] Speaker B: Can you just give us one sentence that sums them up?
[02:24:26] Speaker A: They suck.
[02:24:28] Speaker B: All right.
Punishment this season, tentatively, because we're. I know bone questions the legalities, but tentatively, the punishment is you have to go to a public pool, get in the pool, and then publicly announce that you have peed and said pool.
And so, Kenny, are you excited to do this?
[02:24:47] Speaker A: As of this week, I'm not doing it.
[02:24:48] Speaker B: You are, but the ravens are currently up there.
[02:24:51] Speaker A: That would be next week. You can talk to me then.
[02:24:52] Speaker B: Okay.
At this point, I am not looking forward to this.
[02:24:57] Speaker A: At this point, Ronnie is being in the pool.
[02:24:58] Speaker B: Yeah. So I want to remind everybody before we get started that bone is the reigning, defending king of the North.
Kenny, you're still a clown.
You're a clown until you're not a clown anymore.
[02:25:10] Speaker A: You're in last place.
[02:25:11] Speaker B: You're still a clown. I've never lost.
[02:25:14] Speaker A: I hold both. Hybridization.
[02:25:15] Speaker B: I've never lost. Let's remind everybody of the current record. After week seven, bone 14 and eleven up top.
And just a few games behind him, Kenny and I are tied. But Kenny does hold the tiebreaker. I'll give that to you. And so we're both tiebreakers. We're at twelve and 13, and Kenny is technically in second place, and I am in last. But that'll change here soon.
So let's go ahead and get into this week's games. We'll start with the Bengals. The Bengals host the Eagles. Kenny, we'll start with you. Who you got?
[02:25:45] Speaker A: Who do I got this week?
I'm actually going to go bangles this week.
I don't think the Eagles are very good all these seems to beat us really badly, but I just, I don't have a lot of faith in the Eagles at all. And I think Joe Burrow has been playing really good football, and I think that a quarterback sometimes is good enough to overcome even your team being bad. And if I had to take them head to head right now, Joe Burrow. Jalen hurts. I'm taking Joe Barrow.
[02:26:18] Speaker B: Fair bone, who you got?
[02:26:20] Speaker C: I'm also going to go Bengals. That was kind of my first instinct.
I mean, the Eagles didn't really beat us that bad. Bangles didn't beat us that bad. I'm like Bengals at home.
They're, what are they on a two win streak? Does that sound right? I think they keep it going. They're going to beat the Eagles.
[02:26:37] Speaker B: That's fair. Guys. I also have the Bengals.
These are two really bad football teams. Exponentially better than the Browns, but so much better still, two really bad football teams. This is going to be a shit show of a game. The reason I go Bengals is because they at least have a top notch offense.
I mean, although they did struggle to score against the Browns for some reason, but they do have a good offense and I think that wins the game.
[02:27:04] Speaker A: Simple enough.
[02:27:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Next up here, Steelers host the Giants. I will go ahead and pick first. I got the Steelers at home. Giants are ass.
[02:27:13] Speaker A: Agreed. Giants are ass.
[02:27:15] Speaker B: I guess Kenny will go next.
[02:27:16] Speaker A: I'll go next. Giants are asked Steelers at home on Monday night Football. They're not going to lose this game.
[02:27:21] Speaker B: Bone.
[02:27:22] Speaker C: Steelers. Everything you guys said made a lot of sense. Sense to me.
[02:27:27] Speaker B: We spoke to him, we swung him. We were very convincing.
[02:27:30] Speaker C: Russell. Russell will be back for week two and he's going to dominate on Monday night football.
[02:27:34] Speaker B: Yeah, I like that. I don't like that, actually. Russell's washed. If there was any reason to pick against them.
[02:27:41] Speaker C: Comeback player of the year from being a bad player.
[02:27:44] Speaker B: Is that a real rule?
He's trash.
[02:27:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[02:27:48] Speaker B: Bench last year and then finally Brownstone stay home and host the Ravens. And by Brown, stay home. I mean they're probably actually going to stay home and the Ravens will just be in their building and so against air. Yeah, I'll go ahead and pick first. I got the Ravens winning this one handily, 30 to 13. I don't need to explain it. You guys know?
[02:28:07] Speaker C: Yeah.
[02:28:09] Speaker B: Bone, who you got?
[02:28:10] Speaker C: All right, Jamus is going to be the starting quarterback. That's my prediction. So the Browns are still going to lose, but they are going to score over 20 points this week. So I got Ravens 37 Browns 24.
[02:28:26] Speaker B: Goddamn, we got them putting up so much points. What do you have for the Browns? 24 24, Kenny, we got. Please. Go Browns.
[02:28:35] Speaker A: I'm in the same boat. I think the Browns have an offensive explosion this week. I think Jamis probably gets to start and Brown score 26. Unfortunately, the Ravens will score 34 and we will lose again. And it will be the worst loss I can remember.
The Cowboys lost the seven weeks.
[02:28:57] Speaker B: Don't take my. That's my thing.
[02:28:59] Speaker C: That's my new favorite bit of Mister James.
[02:29:02] Speaker B: Yeah. So let me remind everybody to call the burnover sportscast.
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[02:29:27] Speaker A: What can we expect next week?
[02:29:29] Speaker B: That's what I asked.
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[02:29:34] Speaker B: Nice.
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Along with another brownsbacker interview. We will have our good friends in San Diego. I think that's Spanish for whales. Vagina.
[02:30:23] Speaker B: Yeah. The San Diego brownsbackers and an old, old wooden ship.
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[02:31:05] Speaker A: Thanks for lease.
[02:31:22] Speaker B: Kenny, what do you got for us?
[02:31:24] Speaker A: Facts for days. I got some facts for days. We did.
We did Halloween movies for our hot three this week, so I went with some Halloween movie facts.
Number one.
[02:31:37] Speaker B: Let's hear them.
[02:31:38] Speaker A: Damien originally had a different name in the Omen.
[02:31:42] Speaker B: The omen is another one that I forgot about. That should have been an honorable mention.
[02:31:44] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Screenwriter David Seltzer planned to name his Antichrist, Domlin, as a dumb name after the total obnoxious brat child of a friend, until his wife convinced him that it would be a horrible thing to do to the kid if Domlin was forever known as the Antichrist. Not to mention his name is Dominic. Not to mention he would probably end their friendship.
[02:32:07] Speaker C: Sure.
[02:32:08] Speaker B: I mean, is it worse than naming him Dominic?
[02:32:12] Speaker A: I don't know. He wrote Damien after father Demian, who started the first leper colony in the hawaiian islands.
[02:32:19] Speaker B: Okay, nice.
[02:32:20] Speaker A: Number two.
[02:32:21] Speaker B: Number two.
[02:32:21] Speaker A: Child's play was inspired by a real event in 1909.
No, no. Gone Chucky child.
[02:32:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Annabelle. The newer movies Annabelle are after a.
[02:32:36] Speaker A: Real gone child's play was inspired by a real event. 1909. Key west. Painter and author Robert Eugene Otto claimed that one of his family's servants placed a voodoo curse on his childhood toy, Robert the doll. Supposedly, the doll would mysteriously move around from room to room, knock furniture over, and conduct conversations with Otto. Robert the doll was left in the attic until Otto's death in 1974 when the new owners moved into the Florida home. The new family also claimed of mysterious activities that would happen in the house connected to the doll. Today, Robert the doll is on display at the custom house and old post office in Key West, Florida.
[02:33:15] Speaker B: So he just gave it up. He just. They put him on display. He's like, I guess I'll stop now. Nobody's seen it since.
[02:33:20] Speaker A: Maybe he moves things around in the old post office.
[02:33:23] Speaker B: I don't think so. Key west, though. Lot of ghost tours. There's a lot of crazy things that happen in Key west.
[02:33:27] Speaker A: So, yeah, apparently Chucky lives there.
[02:33:30] Speaker B: Most haunted place in Florida allegedly might.
[02:33:33] Speaker A: Be the most haunted place in the whole ocean.
[02:33:36] Speaker B: Maybe.
[02:33:36] Speaker A: Number three, Jaws doesn't fully appear in a shot until 1 hour and 21 minutes into the movie. While the lack of the sharks appearances works to heighten the tension in Jaws, the real reason the shark isn't shown in full is because the mechanical shark that was built rarely worked during filming. Director Steven Spielberg had to create inventive ways, like the yellow barrels, to shoot around the non functional movie shark.
[02:34:04] Speaker B: Nice.
[02:34:04] Speaker A: And number four, and I don't mention Psycho, is the first american film to feature a toilet. In addition to being the first american film to show a toilet on screen, Hitchcock, Psycho is also the first american film in which we hear a toilet being flushed.
[02:34:24] Speaker B: It's, like, commonplace.
[02:34:25] Speaker A: Now, the 1950s were a wild time, my friends.
[02:34:28] Speaker B: We can't talk about that.
How dare you?
[02:34:32] Speaker A: And then, my friends, is fans, blow your bloomers off.
Man.
[02:34:40] Speaker B: Those are good facts. For days. I liked them. There you go. Yeah, I mean, not your best, but now you're worse.
[02:34:45] Speaker A: Come on.
[02:34:46] Speaker B: Did you give us whale facts?
[02:34:48] Speaker A: I give you a jaws fact.
[02:34:49] Speaker B: Yeah, shark facts.
[02:34:50] Speaker A: That's pretty close.
[02:34:51] Speaker B: Yeah, it's close.
I just kicked them up a notch. Those were a lot better facts than I thought they were.
[02:34:57] Speaker A: See, I told you they would be.
[02:34:58] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And unless you're bringing whale facts, though, they're not gonna make the top three, because I think you've done whale facts three times now.
[02:35:03] Speaker A: All right, sperm whale facts. Next week?
[02:35:05] Speaker B: No, we got more Halloween stuff. More Halloween stuff.
[02:35:08] Speaker A: Great.
[02:35:09] Speaker B: Bone, how you doing over there?
[02:35:10] Speaker C: I'm doing great. Getting tired. I'll probably go to sleep soon.
[02:35:14] Speaker B: Getting tired.
[02:35:15] Speaker C: Driving home is gonna be challenge.
[02:35:17] Speaker B: Yeah. Fair.
[02:35:19] Speaker C: Yeah. So, bon appetit.
[02:35:23] Speaker A: Don't just be a part of the problem. Be the whole damn problem.
[02:35:26] Speaker B: And only you can prevent river fires.
[02:35:30] Speaker A: Burning river sports, burning burning river river. Sleepy river sports, burning sleepy hollow. Burning.
[02:35:39] Speaker B: Bone, give us a song to sing.
[02:35:42] Speaker C: Oh, man.
[02:35:43] Speaker A: This is the story of a girl who cried a river drowned the whole world. And though she looks so sad in photographs, I absolutely loved her. When she smiles. When she smile.
[02:35:58] Speaker B: Good night, Cleveland.
[02:35:59] Speaker C: Good night, Akron.
[02:36:00] Speaker A: Good night, Cleveland.
[02:36:02] Speaker B: Quiet on set.
[02:36:03] Speaker A: I now have two loves in my.
[02:36:06] Speaker B: Life, big city living and a voodoo woman named Phyllis. I didn't think we'd be getting into Brad Pitt's.
[02:36:15] Speaker A: I can't even say I didn't think we'd be getting into Brad Pitt's ass.
[02:36:20] Speaker B: Yeah, didn't think we'd get in there.
[02:36:22] Speaker A: We talk a lot of analingus on this show.
[02:36:24] Speaker B: So put your right foot in and take your right foot out. Then put your right foot in and shut the hell up. Because it's not time for the hokey pokey. It's time for the burning river sports cab. Motorboat. You play the motorboat, you motorboat son of a bitch. You old sailor, you.
[02:36:41] Speaker A: You know I was thinking during that interview.
[02:36:43] Speaker B: What? What were you think? Nothing. Because you don't have thoughts. Because you're a brainless idiot.
[02:36:47] Speaker A: Wow.
[02:36:48] Speaker B: My name is Uhtred, son of Uhtred. By the way, I want my foreskin back. It doesn't matter what you think.
[02:36:55] Speaker A: Women's guide to anal sex. And it was the second edition. Who makes that second edition?
[02:37:01] Speaker C: The weather. Outside is weather.
[02:37:03] Speaker B: The other one, the finger. The finger eating food fingers. Oh, my God.
[02:37:07] Speaker A: My house is full of shit.
[02:37:09] Speaker B: He's shit everywhere.
[02:37:11] Speaker C: Yes.
[02:37:12] Speaker A: Ejaculate all over my body and my genitals.
[02:37:14] Speaker C: Yes.
[02:37:15] Speaker B: Oh, no, we suck.
[02:37:17] Speaker C: You don't need fundamentals when you got heart.
[02:37:21] Speaker A: And Jesus.
[02:37:22] Speaker B: And Jesus.
[02:37:22] Speaker C: That's right.
[02:37:23] Speaker B: Touchdown number one.
[02:37:24] Speaker E: What do you mean, funny?
[02:37:25] Speaker C: Funny how?
[02:37:26] Speaker B: How am I funny? It's going down. I'm yelling timber.
Goddamn jets. Should we start a meat podcast like the meat pod?
Slow roasted, the leaves are weak.
[02:37:42] Speaker D: Leads a week.
[02:37:44] Speaker B: Fucking leads a week.
[02:37:46] Speaker A: You?
[02:37:46] Speaker B: A week, though.
[02:37:47] Speaker A: We should send a team of oil core drillers a la Armageddon to Mars to have them access the newly discovered reservoirs of water trapped seven to 12 miles under the surface that, when released, will cover the entirety of everything on the planet less than a mile high.
[02:37:55] Speaker B: All I do is win, win, win no matter what. Erroneous. Erroneous on both counts.
[02:38:00] Speaker A: Oh, lord.
[02:38:01] Speaker B: I mean, when I. Last year when I went home, you know, my wife's pants hit the ground. Wow. But damn.
[02:38:07] Speaker A: I'm sorry. Your segment for a second. To do some good podcasting.
[02:38:12] Speaker B: You know why, mister? Cause you drove a Hyundai. To get here tonight, I drove an $80,000 BMW. That's my name. I think we've officially lost all of our more conservative viewers, so I don't think they want to listen any longer.
[02:38:28] Speaker C: It's mother nature.
[02:38:29] Speaker B: I live my life a quarter mile at a time.
[02:38:31] Speaker A: Where's logo girl when you need her?
[02:38:34] Speaker B: Want to make love for this? Cheese.
[02:38:35] Speaker A: We need cheese girl. Now, who's canceled? Now who's canceled now? Probably you making it full of fat people.
[02:38:47] Speaker B: I'm not just you.
[02:38:49] Speaker A: We're a whole race, basically.
[02:38:52] Speaker B: No way. You just straight. Just finger banging their salad.
[02:38:57] Speaker C: You first get shocked, and then. Then you get the shocker.
[02:39:03] Speaker D: Hey, you like to see almost naked?
[02:39:04] Speaker B: That's cool, man. Whatever. No, no, no. Most people, like, they're driving along and they're like, in between meals, they're like, I'm a little hungry. I'm gonna have a granola bar. And it's like, I need a cheeseburger.
[02:39:14] Speaker A: Are you not entertained?
[02:39:16] Speaker B: Are you not entertained?
[02:39:20] Speaker A: Is this not why you're here?
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